| === eeejay is now known as eeejay_is_afk | ||
| pitti | Good morning | 05:43 |
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| pitti | desrt: exactly | 05:43 |
| RAOF | Hey there pitti! | 05:43 |
| pitti | hey RAOF, how are you? | 05:51 |
| RAOF | I'm pretty good. | 05:53 |
| RAOF | Figured out why my first test started crashing once I added a second :) | 05:54 |
| pitti | RAOF: ah, working on nux test suite? | 06:01 |
| RAOF | Unity, yeah. | 06:01 |
| didrocks | good morning | 07:14 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks | 07:22 |
| didrocks | guten morgen pitti, how are you? | 07:31 |
| pitti | quite fine! | 07:31 |
| pitti | just learned about the admin -> sudo group migration in the installer, now trying to catch up | 07:31 |
| pitti | how about you? | 07:31 |
| didrocks | pitti: still some sore throat, I'm eager that to finish :) | 07:32 |
| didrocks | otherwise, all is fine, need to prepare to go to the ubuntu party in Toulouse for this week-end | 07:32 |
| didrocks | (6th "ubuntu weekend" in a row if we count UDS) | 07:33 |
| pitti | no wonder you get no rest.. | 07:33 |
| * pitti hugs didrocks, enjoy! | 07:33 | |
| * didrocks hugs pitti back, thanks | 07:33 | |
| didrocks | but I will surely enjoy a quiet week-end next week :) | 07:33 |
| didrocks | so, you are upadting the polkit rules to have the "sudo" group as well? | 07:35 |
| pitti | didrocks: yes, that, polkit-desktop-privileges, workign on accountsservice now | 07:35 |
| pitti | to recongnize both and set "sudo" for admins | 07:35 |
| didrocks | hoping that's the only 2 offended places, good luck :-) | 07:35 |
| pitti | KDE's control center likely has that as well | 07:36 |
| pitti | and I'm sure that there are a number of other places which check for "admin" group only | 07:36 |
| pitti | quite a surprise this morning.. | 07:37 |
| didrocks | more than possible, indeed | 07:37 |
| baptistemm | hello | 07:47 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: oh, mozjs wants to go to universe; you are happy about this, I take it? | 07:58 |
| pitti | didrocks: zeitgeist-extensions wants to go to universe now; is that obsolete and should be removed, or will it be updated to current zeitgeist? | 07:59 |
| didrocks | pitti: you mean, zeitgeist-extension-fts or just the source package, zg-extensions? | 08:00 |
| pitti | didrocks: both | 08:00 |
| pitti | related to that, I now have a process "python /usr/share/zeitgeist/fts-python/fts.py"; should I have? | 08:00 |
| didrocks | pitti: zg-fts-extensions should still be there | 08:00 |
| pitti | I was hoping we could get rid of python there | 08:00 |
| didrocks | pitti: yeah, the extensions are still in python | 08:01 |
| pitti | so it seems nothign pulls in zg-e-fts any more | 08:01 |
| didrocks | let me see if zeitgeist-fts-extension should be directly seeded or be a recommends of anything | 08:01 |
| didrocks | pitti: I would go for seeding it directly, as debian dropped the recommends | 08:02 |
| didrocks | hum, u-l-a should dep on zg-extension-fts | 08:04 |
| didrocks | pitti: ^ | 08:04 |
| didrocks | weird, why is it in component mismatch? | 08:06 |
| didrocks | http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/unity-lens-applications | 08:07 |
| didrocks | and u-l-a still in main | 08:07 |
| pitti | hm, weird indeed | 08:07 |
| didrocks | Provides: zeitgeist-extension-fts | 08:07 |
| didrocks | zg-core | 08:07 |
| didrocks | hum, I need to speak to rainct | 08:08 |
| pitti | ah, it prefers the already installed package then | 08:08 |
| didrocks | it doens't provide it last time I talked to mhr3 | 08:08 |
| didrocks | indeed | 08:08 |
| pitti | but that seems wrong then, if core zg doesn't yet provide full text search | 08:08 |
| didrocks | I know it was planned, but it wasn't the case last time I checked | 08:08 |
| didrocks | pitti: I'll check and fix one way or another today, thanks! | 08:08 |
| didrocks | /usr/share/zeitgeist/fts-python, seems it made it, nice | 08:10 |
| pitti | didrocks: merci | 08:10 |
| didrocks | will check with upstream, if this is the case, we can even remove the other package | 08:10 |
| didrocks | pitti: de rien, merci de m'avoir prévenu ;) | 08:11 |
| pitti | didrocks: I hope the actual meaning of that is a lot less strong than google translate indicates :) | 08:23 |
| pitti | bbl | 08:23 |
| didrocks | pitti: hum, it's basically, "thanks for notifying me about it" :) | 08:24 |
| pitti | ah :) | 08:24 |
| pitti | google says "thank you for defendant", as if I was sueing you :) | 08:24 |
| didrocks | ahah :) | 08:26 |
| didrocks | ah, prévenu | 08:26 |
| didrocks | yeah, prévenu == prévenir (to notify, to warn about) | 08:27 |
| didrocks | but a "prévenu" is someone you are sueing, right :) | 08:27 |
| rodrigo_ | morning | 08:46 |
| didrocks | hey rodrigo_ | 08:48 |
| rodrigo_ | hi didrocks | 08:48 |
| didrocks | pitti: I'm opening a bug to remove fts extensions, after some investigation, yeah, it's the zg-core version which is the latest and greatest | 08:48 |
| didrocks | hum, or maybe just demote, as it's still in debian | 08:49 |
| didrocks | and potentially, other extensions can come back | 08:49 |
| pitti | didrocks: either is fine with me | 09:05 |
| didrocks | I went the demotion way :) | 09:05 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.txt there is a bunch of java OO.o related libs which want to go to universe; is that ok? I didn't see a LibO upload recently, wonder what changed | 09:07 |
| chrisccoulson | good morning everyone | 09:48 |
| pitti | hey chrisccoulson | 09:49 |
| chrisccoulson | hi pitti, how are you? | 09:50 |
| pitti | I'm fine, thanks! how about you? flu gone for good? | 09:50 |
| chrisccoulson | it's almost gone now :) | 09:51 |
| didrocks | hey chrisccoulson! | 09:53 |
| chrisccoulson | hi didrocks | 09:53 |
| glatzor | hello mvo, could please have a look at the two merge proposals for aptdaemon: prettyrepos and cached-changelogs? | 10:06 |
| rodrigo_ | mvo, just upgraded my branch, with a test program and several fixes | 10:13 |
| rodrigo_ | and fixing the systemd comments, as per seb's comments | 10:13 |
| mvo | glatzor: will do | 10:46 |
| glatzor | mvo, thanks | 10:50 |
| mvo | glatzor: commented inline, awsome work, but two tiny remarks | 11:00 |
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| Sweetshark | pitti: hmm, strange. dunno either. | 11:12 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: do any of these look like you'd miss them? | 11:12 |
| pitti | well, we can always re-promote them of course | 11:12 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: they are transitional only anyway, right? | 11:13 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: not e. g. libformula-java-openoffice.org | 11:15 |
| * didrocks knows show the flag for reaching 101 manual test cases for unity & compiz | 11:15 | |
| pitti | didrocks: wow! was that the goal? | 11:21 |
| pitti | didrocks: OOI, how long do you estimate will it take to run through that once as a tester? | 11:22 |
| * ogra_ thoguht they were automated tests running at build time | 11:22 | |
| didrocks | pitti: there is no goal, but I think I covered most of launcher/panel/dash/alt-tab and window functionnality | 11:34 |
| pitti | didrocks: you rock! | 11:34 |
| * didrocks hugs pitti | 11:34 | |
| didrocks | pitti: I think it will take approx. 3 hours | 11:35 |
| didrocks | and 1h30 once you know the tests well, most of them are short | 11:35 |
| didrocks | ogra_: the manual tests are the distros one | 11:35 |
| ogra_ | ah | 11:35 |
| didrocks | ogra_: for accepting to release a new version | 11:35 |
| === ronoc_ is now known as ronoc | ||
| GunnarHj | rodrigo_: Hi Rodrigo, wondering if you noticed https://bugs.freedesktop.org/42857 | 12:15 |
| rodrigo_ | GunnarHj, yes, pitti told me about it | 12:16 |
| rodrigo_ | not about the bug, but about you working on it :) | 12:16 |
| GunnarHj | rodrigo_: Ok. With that bug I try to make them apply the code upstream, which would benefit GNOME just as much, I think. | 12:17 |
| rodrigo_ | GunnarHj, although not sure about it, we have the SetLocale interface in systemd, which this branch implements -> https://code.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/system-service/new-interfaces/+merge/83308 | 12:19 |
| rodrigo_ | that's what GNOME upstream uses to set the system locale settings | 12:19 |
| GunnarHj | rodrigo_: Do you possibly know how to best get in contact with Ray or Matthias? | 12:19 |
| rodrigo_ | it saves all the LANG and LC_* vars in /etc/default/locale | 12:19 |
| rodrigo_ | GunnarHj, matthias is in #control-center in gimpnet, most of the time (he's in USA) | 12:20 |
| GunnarHj | Aha, thanks. | 12:20 |
| rodrigo_ | and he's usually here -> mclasen afaik | 12:20 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: ah, so that's what we should use now, instead of adding /etc/default/locale writing to accountsservice? | 12:21 |
| rodrigo_ | pitti, I think so | 12:21 |
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| rodrigo_ | GunnarHj, what apps would use that interface in accountsservice? | 12:21 |
| pitti | so far that's language-selector | 12:23 |
| GunnarHj | g-c-c, I suppose. We are not only talking about the system wide (/etc/default/locale), but the per-user settings. | 12:23 |
| pitti | but if that goes away, and g-c-c uses systemd, it'll be obsolete | 12:23 |
| rodrigo_ | g-c-c already uses the systemd interface for setting /etc/default/locale | 12:23 |
| rodrigo_ | so yes, I don't think we need it | 12:23 |
| pitti | GunnarHj: oh, right; the system-wide thing is l-s' own dbus backend, ignore me | 12:23 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: ^ | 12:23 |
| pitti | so we only need it for per-user, yes | 12:23 |
| pitti | it feels a bit weird to split that up between "per user" and "system" between accountsservice and systemd, but *shrug* | 12:24 |
| rodrigo_ | per-user? we already do that in the region panel | 12:24 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: trough accountsservice, I guess? | 12:24 |
| GunnarHj | rodrigo_: But that involves g-s-d, if I remember it correctly. | 12:25 |
| rodrigo_ | pitti, yes | 12:25 |
| GunnarHj | rodrigo_: per-user region settings through accountsservice? How? | 12:26 |
| rodrigo_ | GunnarHj, when you unlock the permissions in user accounts panel, you can set each user's language, and that's via accountsservice's SetLanguage | 12:27 |
| GunnarHj | rodrigo_: language, yes, but that's something else. I'm talking about regional formats now. | 12:28 |
| rodrigo_ | hmm right, I got confused, this new method in accountsservice is for the specific user interface, not for system-wide, right? | 12:29 |
| GunnarHj | rodrigo_: yes | 12:30 |
| rodrigo_ | ok then yes, I guess it makes sense | 12:30 |
| rodrigo_ | sorry, I was confused :) | 12:30 |
| GunnarHj | rodrigo_: no problem. We all get confused once in a while when discussing locales and such. :) | 12:31 |
| rodrigo_ | :) | 12:31 |
| rodrigo_ | so, formats_locale stores the LC_ALL variable? | 12:32 |
| * rodrigo_ looks at the patch deeper | 12:32 | |
| GunnarHj | rodrigo_: Not LC_ALL, but LC_TIME, LC_CURRENCY etc. | 12:32 |
| GunnarHj | But that you don't see in the patch. | 12:33 |
| rodrigo_ | ok, then I guess it would be better as a "as" in the dbus interface | 12:33 |
| rodrigo_ | that is, an array of strings? | 12:33 |
| GunnarHj | Don't think so. It's just one value, that is used for a bunch of env. variables. | 12:34 |
| rodrigo_ | or even better, we could have SetLanguage renamed to SetLocale and make accept an array of strings, hence no need for 2 method calls from the region panel | 12:34 |
| rodrigo_ | but yes, let's discuss with mclasen later, ping me when you ping him also, please | 12:35 |
| GunnarHj | will do. | 12:35 |
| rodrigo_ | systemd does that, SetLocale (as), so that it gets all the vars | 12:35 |
| rodrigo_ | we could get it to accept just a string, but I think it makes sense to do the SetLanguage->SetLocale renaming | 12:36 |
| GunnarHj | Hmm... haven't thought about that. For 'pedagogical' reasons I wonder if it isn't better to have two properties, after all. People tend to mix up language and regional formats all the time... | 12:38 |
| GunnarHj | Need to stop now. See you later. | 12:38 |
| rodrigo_ | ok, later | 12:39 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: FWIW, I agree that keeping SetLanguage() and adding SetRegion() is better | 12:42 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: it's less confusing, how to map those to LC_* is an implementation detail, and it keeps API compat of SetLanguage() | 12:42 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: how does 'as' work? the individual strings look like 'LC_FOO=bar'? i. e. they include the var? | 12:43 |
| rodrigo_ | pitti, yes | 12:43 |
| pitti | or do they have to have a particular order? (that would be sick) | 12:43 |
| rodrigo_ | no, no order | 12:43 |
| * rodrigo_ lunch | 13:25 | |
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| pitti | taking a break, back for release meeting | 14:28 |
| didrocks | Riddell: hey, not sure you saw my email about the fact that I fixed pyromaths :) | 15:17 |
| Riddell | didrocks: no, where was that? | 15:19 |
| Riddell | oh, it's in my inbox :) | 15:19 |
| Riddell | accepted | 15:21 |
| didrocks | Riddell: thanks :) | 15:23 |
| didrocks | ok, will take the train now, I'll probably enjoy the 4 hours of train to Toulouse to add test cases to oneconf :) | 15:35 |
| didrocks | see you on monday everyone! | 15:35 |
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| pitti | Sweetshark: would it be possible to do a rebuild of LibO in precise against teh current libraries? | 17:13 |
| pitti | sanbar: or is that an inordinate amount of work? | 17:13 |
| pitti | sorry sanbar, I meant Sweetshark | 17:13 |
| MrChrisDruif | pitti; I thinkn sanbar likes the attention ;-) | 17:16 |
| * bryceh waves | 18:36 | |
| desrt | bryceh: hello | 18:52 |
| === eeejay_is_afk is now known as eeejay | ||
| Sweetshark | pitti: what exactly do you mean by rebuild? just retriggering the build, or a new upload with new version number but without changing the package itself? both wouldnt be too much of a hassle ... | 19:41 |
| kenvandine | Sweetshark, i would suspect a no change upload | 19:47 |
| Sweetshark | kenvandine: thats easy. it only gets tricky with changes which is like playing mikado ;) | 19:49 |
| kenvandine | indeed | 19:49 |
| Sweetshark | kenvandine: luckily everthing will be better with 3.5 | 19:50 |
| * Sweetshark still uses his illusion as Guns'n Roses once told him to ... | 19:50 | |
| kenvandine | haha | 19:51 |
| micahg | Sweetshark: I think he was asking more about whether or not you think it'll build | 20:36 |
| micahg | dch -R is the easy part :) | 20:36 |
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| === eeejay_is_afk is now known as eeejay | ||
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