| G | nigelb: I = all instances? (of what? ;)) | 00:29 |
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| === PabloRubianes_ is now known as PabloRubianes | ||
| broder | ScottK, Laney, tumbleweed, micahg: i've finished my draft of the new docs for backports if you guys would like to read them - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nAk3tJN_G5TOI4RucVudI0xGPqmRO2ZFWV9UEwr01qM/edit | 00:48 |
| micahg | broder: thanks, will try to get to it this weekend | 00:48 |
| broder | i'm also happy to mail out edit links if people want them; i just didn't want to make it publicly editable | 00:50 |
| nigelb | Laney: Morning! Around? | 06:58 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:56 |
| Laney | morning nigelb | 08:31 |
| nigelb | Laney: There was someone in #ubuntu-classroom looking to help Ubuntu development. I refered them to #ubuntu-motu. I thought I'd hand off to you :) | 08:32 |
| Laney | i'm sure all of us in here can help out :-) | 08:32 |
| nigelb | That's ankit-tulsyan in #ubuntu-devel. | 08:32 |
| Laney | good, he got some help already | 08:34 |
| jfi | Hello, universe package should be build against gtk3 instead of gtk2 if possible? (for precise) | 08:34 |
| Laney | that would be nice | 08:34 |
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| Laney | hm, requestbackport didn't ask me to check the package installs and runs | 13:32 |
| tumbleweed | that's one of the checkboxes i nthe report you edit | 13:32 |
| Laney | nein | 13:32 |
| Laney | that's what i mean | 13:32 |
| tumbleweed | Laney: which package? | 13:32 |
| Laney | haskell-hashtables | 13:33 |
| Laney | * oneiric: | 13:33 |
| Laney | [ ] Package builds without modification | 13:33 |
| Laney | No reverse dependencies | 13:33 |
| tumbleweed | it didn't see any published binaries, I'm guessing | 13:34 |
| Laney | aha | 13:34 |
| tumbleweed | ok, so we should add a check there | 13:34 |
| tumbleweed | we should wait for packages to get trhough NEW before allowing backport requests | 13:35 |
| tumbleweed | is that reasonable policy? | 13:37 |
| tumbleweed | broder: read your draft this morning. I'm not convinced we should be telling people how to install from backports by default | 13:39 |
| Laney | maybe make sure the package has at least one published binary | 13:39 |
| tumbleweed | yup, that's the easy check :) | 13:40 |
| tumbleweed | committed | 13:41 |
| Laney | rock | 13:41 |
| Laney | still filing this request :P | 13:42 |
| Laney | oh, er, HTTP Error 400: Bad Request | 13:42 |
| Laney | apparently not | 13:42 |
| tumbleweed | presumably that's the newline in title issue | 13:43 |
| tumbleweed | oh, no, that was uploaded | 13:43 |
| Laney | i'll try from bzr | 13:43 |
| Laney | wait, it won't let me file it now | 13:43 |
| Laney | FOILED! | 13:43 |
| Laney | File "/srv/home/laney/bin/ubuntu-dev-tools/ubuntutools/question.py", line 195, in get_report | 13:45 |
| Laney | title = u' '.join(match.group(1).spit(u'\n')) | 13:45 |
| Laney | AttributeError: 'unicode' object has no attribute 'spit' | 13:45 |
| Laney | :P | 13:45 |
| tumbleweed | :) | 13:45 |
| tumbleweed | grumble, that means I should do another ubuntu-dev-tools upload, because requestsync will also be broken | 14:07 |
| * tumbleweed could have sworn he tested this | 14:07 | |
| tumbleweed | err, no it was post 0.136 | 14:21 |
| verwilst | Uploading libjavascript-minifier-perl_1.05-1ppa1_source.changes: 1k/2k550 Changes file must be signed with a valid GPG signature: Verification failed 3 times: ['General error', 'General error', 'General error'] : Permission denied. Note: This error might indicate a problem with your passive_ftp setting. | 14:35 |
| verwilst | w0t? | 14:35 |
| verwilst | i signed it just fine | 14:35 |
| Laney | launchpad bug | 14:36 |
| Laney | it'll be accepted | 14:36 |
| verwilst | ah ok :) yeah just got the mails :) | 14:37 |
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| broder | tumbleweed: i certainly wouldn't recommend it, but if somebody wanted to pin backports back to 500 i don't see any reason to stop them. i've done that before (before notautomatic) and it's been fine | 15:19 |
| broder | i'm not generally a fan of omitting information from docs as a way to prevent people from doing things, because it doesn't work and they just end up getting bad information elsewhere | 15:20 |
| broder | and there are at least 3 different points where "the Ubuntu Backporters Team recommends that you configure Backports in manual mode" :) | 15:20 |
| tumbleweed | that's a reasonable argument | 15:21 |
| tumbleweed | yes, it does say that quite clearly | 15:21 |
| tumbleweed | broder: at any rate, no complaints from me. It looks reasonable | 15:24 |
| tumbleweed | and yes, it is still long-winded :) | 15:25 |
| broder | yeah, i'm not really sure what to do there. i may settle for the "you know, if you had read the docs <links to relevant section> you wouldn't asking this question" approach | 15:26 |
| tumbleweed | :) | 15:26 |
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| Laney | "Functionality the Backported package" → "…of…" | 16:21 |
| Laney | I don't like admitting that is our standard for running, and prefer people to actually test stuff at least a bit | 16:21 |
| Laney | any developer can upload a backport, and actually I'd rather not be on the hook for everything I approve | 16:22 |
| Laney | similarly can we fix the script or workflow to credit properly? | 16:23 |
| Laney | (the no-change script) | 16:23 |
| Laney | not that it's clear what 'properly' means | 16:27 |
| Laney | broder: feedback | 16:27 |
| * Laney PUB | 16:27 | |
| nigelb | He turned into a Pub. | 16:28 |
| * tumbleweed is still pretty broken from last night's pubbing | 16:28 | |
| broder | Laney: sorry, went back to sleep for a few hours :) | 18:53 |
| broder | i'll fix the typos and i don't mind removing the definition of "running" | 18:53 |
| broder | and i originally had backport-helper give credit to the bug reporter; cjwatson asked me to change it | 18:53 |
| broder | i guess if there was some way to set both changed-by and signed-by.... | 18:54 |
| broder | did we ever figure out whether backports can be uploaded by anybody on ubuntu-dev or just motu and core-dev? | 18:57 |
| micahg | broder: I still thought it was you can upload whatever you have rights to upload | 19:08 |
| micahg | broder: unless ubuntu-backporters has special rights, go try to upload pidgin to -backports and see if you get rejected :) | 19:12 |
| ajmitch | oh, can I, please? :) | 19:16 |
| cjwatson | broder: as currently implemented, any restriction to motu and core-dev will be for packages that require overrides - so anything not in the distroseries being backported to | 19:47 |
| Laney | EL PUB! | 21:59 |
| * Laney swooshes his cape | 22:00 | |
| Laney | dear doom bar, why are you so nice yet so naughty? | 22:31 |
| ItalianNewbie | Hi | 22:33 |
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