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cautionwhat date?00:00
caution5 years from today?00:00
geoffmcctheborger: port00:00
jribcaution: from release.00:00
szalcaution: 5 years from release00:00
cautioncan you make the bot tell me the date please?00:00
Richiiei am having issues to make teamviewer startup as an service, im following this documentation http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185386800:00
szal!lucid00:00
ubottuUbuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004 - Supported until April 2013 (Desktop), April 2015 (Server)00:00
jribcaution: the release number tells you when it was released.  10.04 means the 4th month (april) of 201000:01
Richiiebut it seems to me, that it doesnt work properly as expected, anyone knows what the causes might be?00:01
jribtheborger: I just list multiple "Port number" lines in my sshd config00:02
theborgerjrib, yea i found a readme on it, i thought you could do port number,number00:03
theborgerthat does not work00:03
milamberRichiie: can you provide details? which part of which step isn't working?00:03
theborgernext questions, how do i forwward X over multiple ssh connections?00:04
Richiiemilamber: well, im able to run the lines in my /etc/rc.local but if i check the log files i can see some errors do you want me to send them in pastebin ?00:04
milamberRichiie: yes, let's start there00:04
theborgerssh -X -C -p port uname@address ? how do i add another ssh server to that00:04
cautionis there a mirror of the last archive.ubuntu.com packages for karmic?00:06
MonkeyDustcaution  there's a site old-distributions00:07
zykotick9!eol | caution00:07
ubottucaution: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades00:07
MonkeyDustcaution  http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/00:07
RassilonHi all,can someone tell me how I can go back to ubuntu v10 desktop after installing ubuntu v1100:08
bazhangRassilon, full reinstall00:08
zykotick9!downgrade | Rassilon00:08
ubottuRassilon: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system.00:08
milamber!notunity | Rassilon00:08
ubottuRassilon: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic00:08
Richiiemilamber: http://pastebin.com/LEUwU23M00:08
cautionMonkeyDust: can I use that in my sources.list?00:09
MonkeyDustcaution  guess not, at least not the EOL's00:09
RassilonThanks all, I'll try the suggestion from ubottu...00:09
cautionis there anything I can use in my sources.list for karmic?00:10
tollandhi all00:11
zykotick9caution, you obviously didn't look at the link from !eol00:12
YacobhHi everybody00:12
tollandmy ubuntu 11.10 laptop with xfce is spinning the fan continuously, not sure when this started, it might be due to mank building up on the fans or some lower settings for starting the fan for temperatures00:12
cautionzykotick9: I don't want to upgrade or get new releases, just the old ones00:12
bazhanghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades   <------ caution00:12
bazhangcaution, then no00:12
tollandare there any tools that I should look at so see what the fan settings and system temps are ?00:12
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alien2050tolland: check your bios, it should have a temp monitor builtin, but I've noticed also when the gfx driver isn't installed properly it sometimes does this (ati and nvidia)00:14
zykotick9!info lm-sensors | tolland00:14
ubottutolland: lm-sensors (source: lm-sensors): utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:3.3.0-4ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 98 kB, installed size 476 kB00:14
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tollandhmm. apt is complaining that these packages cannot be authenticated, is that right?00:15
cautionoh I can use http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ in sources.list00:16
cautionthanks00:16
szymon_ghi00:16
alien2050lm-sensors also a good tool, but since you said you don't know since when it started... it might get more complicated than just getting a package... try and see when the fans start doing this00:17
alien2050after OS, before, bios, etc...00:17
StepNjumpOk guys, I need a wiz!00:22
htmlhi,00:22
StepNjumpanybody feeling up to par to tell me I'm SOL^00:23
mikubuntui don't know how to install the software for this worldwide community project, i wonder if some of the ops could look at it and see if someone would like to do a community page about it http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/00:23
zykotick9StepNjump, just ask the question...00:23
bazhangStepNjump, whats the actual question00:23
jribcaution: you should use those to upgrade only, you should not continue to use an unsupported release00:23
cautionI understand. I'll upgrade as soon as I can00:23
MonkeyDustdat is Latijn voor 'met'00:24
MonkeyDustoops00:24
ewpayo fellas! i have screen lock off but my comp still locks screen when idle00:25
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html  whats the command line for enable user accounts to show up on the logon screen, and to change the logon screen back to the default ubuntu 10.1000:25
bazhanghtml, you want to remove auto-login via the command line?00:26
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jrib!away > sysadamin|away00:27
ubottusysadamin|away, please see my private message00:27
StepNjumpok zykotick9 and bazhang here is the situation: I did a ls -l and found out that I was drwxr-xr-x on that dir. I didn't like the fact that others could execute so I wanted to change the permissions for ~/Documents and all below folders so I ran this dangerous puppy here:  sudo find . -type f -exec chmod -R 644 {} \; not realizing that I forgot to perform this from the Documents dir. Ooops... And yes, to make it worse, I prefixed it with sudo! So what at00:28
StepNjump this point do you guys suggest? Should I try to create a user  profile and scrap my current one? What a mess!!!!!!00:28
FloodBot1StepNjump: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:28
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jribStepNjump: where did you actually run it from?00:28
StepNjumpzykotick9 and bazhang it was run from the worse ~/00:29
jribStepNjump: that's not all that bad00:29
StepNjumpjrib see above00:29
htmlbazhang,  no ,00:29
StepNjumpoh no jrib?00:29
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bazhanghtml, what do you want to do via CLI then? and by default, you want to undo whatever customization you did to the greeter screen?00:30
StepNjumpwhat about .config, .kde and other scarry other stuff there?00:30
StepNjumpbazhang any idea?00:31
Yacobhi need some help whit my ubuntu00:31
Yacobhi don't have sound00:31
Yacobh:(00:31
StepNjumpYacobh, don't listen to me, I know JUST enough to get in me in trouble!00:31
jribStepNjump: well all you did was remove executable bit from files in your home.  The only thigs that you would have that are executable are likely some small scripts you use00:31
StepNjumpOh yes that happened to me once....00:32
geoffmccYacobh: first thing that comes to mind to me would be to go to sound then hardware and make sure soundcard is selected00:32
StepNjumpjrib should I give a 776 to everything again from ~/ and down ?00:32
htmlbazhang,  yes00:33
jribStepNjump: nope, I would just leave it as it is00:33
StepNjumpIs there a chance I might not be able to reboot?00:33
bazhanghtml, yes to what00:33
jribStepNjump: as long as you really did run it in your user's home, no there is no chance that you would not be able to reboot00:33
jribStepNjump: I guess worst case scenario is you can't login :)00:34
StepNjumpok great jrib.. yes I did.. fortunately it wasn't /. I guess I could look at a different profile for the permissions and change everything one .dir by .dir00:34
Yacobhok geoffmcc let me see it00:35
jribStepNjump: you only modified files00:35
Zirghey folks. at this time grub2 is NOT displaying any options on boot-up and i want it to. what do i change and where???00:35
StepNjumpright... but I guess I could always use the TTY to get it fixed right?00:35
ewpayo fellas! i have screen lock off but my comp still locks screen when idle00:35
jribStepNjump: and files aren't executable in your home generally, unless you install software there or keep scripts in there (but in this case you should know about them and can just make them executable again)00:35
geoffmccYacobh: when your there, in the hardware tab at the bottom is a profile drop down. try different profiles. when you change it, hit the test button to see if they work00:36
StepNjumpok jrib.. The one I know is in there and is executable is dropbox. Where would you install the executables next time? (dropbox installs by default in the home). /dev/bin?00:37
Yacobhall right!00:37
alien2050ewp: I confirm, same situation here, even tried disabling screensaver daemon.... r u using 11.10 ?00:37
geoffmccYacobh: mine works on analog stereo Duplex on my laptop. and when i am connected threw hdmi i believe it is Digital Stereo profile00:37
Jordan_UZirg: Hold shift during boot to see the grub menu, or edit GRUB_TIMEOUT= in /etc/default/grub to always show the menu.00:38
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ZirgJordan_U, what do i want to follow GRUB_TIMEOUT= ?00:39
jribStepNjump: nothing wrong with putting it in your home00:39
ewpalien2050: yes00:39
ZirgJordan_U, right now, the /etc/default/grub file has  GRUB_TIMEOUT=30 and it's not displaying anything.00:39
StepNjumpok tnx a lot jrib00:39
StepNjumpfor your help00:40
alien2050it's puzzling... probably a conf file somewhere00:40
zykotick9Zirg, do you also see something about HIDDEN in /etc/default/grub?00:40
Zirgzykotick9, yes. GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=30 and GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true. comment those out?00:41
jribStepNjump: no problem00:41
ewpalien2050: i'm searching gconf-editor for any clues00:41
zykotick9Zirg, would be a good start - then "sudo update-grub" then reboot to test00:41
alien2050I even removed xscreensaver completely... so there has to be something else00:42
alien2050maybe builtin with lightdm or gshell00:42
atruno-can you bond two wireless interfaces and have them connect to the same ip ?00:43
atruno-oops same SSID00:43
alien2050ewp: let me know if you find anything00:44
CarlFKalien2050 ewp: check this out: https://github.com/CarlFK/veyepar/blob/master/setup/pxe/shaz/var/www/lc/late.sh#L44  [org/gnome/desktop/screensaver]idle-activation-enabled=false00:45
nils_man pacemaker is annoying as hell.00:45
dashavoohey, has anyone been having a lot of problems with flash player for the past few days? Not sure which update exactly coincided with the problem starting.00:46
alien2050can't find local.dconf and I am using gshell, unless I read wrong00:47
Guest2919hi. im unable to play dvds on my installation. i have libdvdread4, livdvdnav4 and libdvdcss2 already installed. but still it says that the dvd is encrypted and a dvd encryption library is not installed00:47
zykotick9Guest2919, from personal experience, i've always had to reboot after adding DVD support for it to work (i'm sure there is another way, but i don't know it)00:48
CarlFKalien2050: that creates local.dconf00:48
geoffmccGuest2919: i beleive its ubuntu-restricted-extras package, have you installed that00:48
Guest2919zykotick9: i have rebooted several times.00:48
zykotick9geoffmcc, incorrect - no DVD support in restricted-extras00:48
SorikanWhy does this lftp script keep copying the same files over and over again? it copies only the flv files, and only uploads them, but every time it runs it copies the same files over and over.... http://www.ideone.com/oGYMQ   Thanks00:49
Guest2919geoffmcc: yes i have00:49
zykotick9Guest2919, after install libdvdread4 did you run the required script?  (libdvdcss2 if installed, should mean you did)00:49
Yacobhgeoffmcc: nothing happen00:49
Yacobhi try whit all of them00:49
jribGuest2919: you should also eject the dvd and re-insert it after installing dvdcss00:50
Guest2919zykotick9: i dont know about running a script. which one? yes libdvdcss2 is installed fine.00:50
Yacobhi tried with all of them00:50
zykotick9Guest2919, do you mean from medibuntu?00:50
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zykotick9Guest2919, "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh" is the script for libdvdread400:51
Guest2919jrib, tried it but no change00:52
KPoh9I have an apache question .  I just downloaded and installed in on 11.10 but can't find where it is00:53
KPoh9I have no www directory under my var directory00:53
zykotick9Guest2919, FYI that libdvdread4 is just installing libdvdcss2 from medibuntu (without adding the repo)00:53
KPoh9any suggestions?00:54
zykotick9KPoh9, when you say downloaded it - do you mean with apt-get/U.S.C or manually?00:54
Guest2919zykotick9, tried it but i need internet fir that will have to go to another office to do so.00:54
KPoh9no apt-get just installing it by downloading, unzipping and then doing make, make install00:54
zykotick9KPoh9, not a very good idea.00:55
zykotick9!lamp | KPoh900:55
ubottuKPoh9: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)00:55
KPoh9lol, I'm new to ubuntu00:55
zykotick9KPoh9, try to just use packages from Ubuntu's repository (install using apt-get or U.S.C) at least to begin with.00:56
Yacobhbut Thank you geoffmcc for your interesting00:57
zykotick9KPoh9, that manual install you did of apache could now cause problems/issue however00:57
zykotick9!checkinstall | KPoh9 for future reference -00:58
ubottuKPoh9 for future reference -: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!00:58
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SorikanWhy does this lftp script keep copying the same files over and over again? it copies only the flv files, and only uploads them, but every time it runs it copies the same files over and over.... http://www.ideone.com/oGYMQ   Thanks01:00
tf_enyahi. does anyone use LGA 2011 CPU(3930K or 3960K)?01:01
zykotick9!anyone | tf_enya01:03
ubottutf_enya: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.01:03
bazhangtf_enya, whats the real issue01:03
CodeWaralt-tab is so messed up in 11.10 .. it tabs through all windows on all desktops and creates a single icon for each app.. DISASTER!!01:03
xanguaCodeWar: configure the plugin with compiz setting manager01:03
KPoh9zykotick9 thanks for the help!01:03
CodeWarxangua, can you point me to the blog ... I tried this once it made no difference01:04
KPoh9zykotick9: thanks for the help!01:05
tf_enyabazhang: 11.10 64bit server  is not boot from cd. but 11.10 64bit desktop can boot from cd.01:05
opticlovecan someone tell me the difference between ext2, ext3, ext4?01:06
zykotick9KPoh9, glad to help :) [i did see your first message]01:06
ewpalien2050: i found /desktop/gnome/lockdown/disable_lock_screen unchecked in gconf. maybe checking it will fix01:06
bazhangopticlove, thats not really an ubuntu support issue; did you wish to know which was preferable to use with ubuntu?01:07
patrickhey01:08
patricknew here01:08
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UngaHungahi01:08
CodeWarhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/68151/revert-alt-tab-behavior-changed-in-11-10 fixed the issue01:08
UngaHungaopticlove, http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/05/ext2-ext3-ext4/01:08
chenchen01:09
tf_enyathis problem only happen with LGA 2011 CPU.01:11
KPoh9join #apache01:12
dsirijushey, anyone having trackpoint issues?01:14
dsirijuslike, locking for a second every few seconds? especially when moving upwards?01:14
dsirijusit's actually trackstyck by hp, but nonetheless01:15
dsirijusand there's no any settings for trackpoint in system settings, only for mouse and trackpad01:15
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stoufaj'ai la carte graphique et le webcam ne fonctionnent pas sous ubuntu11.1001:25
zykotick9!fr | stoufa01:26
ubottustoufa: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.01:26
stoufamerci01:26
dsirijusi've installed gpointing device settings, and it seems that my trackpoint is identified as ps2 mouse only01:30
dsirijusstill glitches01:30
DemoOncan't boot in ubuntu, fresh install, it shows only violet screen, from live usb it works fine01:31
bl4ckcombnoted, next01:31
DemoOnany help?01:32
bl4ckcombDemoOn, did you install it from the live usb?01:32
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DemoOnbl4ckcomb: ye01:33
bl4ckcombhave you checked the image ?01:33
bl4ckcombfor errors01:33
bl4ckcombwhen booting there's an option for that, so you're sure that your setup media is sane01:33
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DemoOnbl4ckcomb: no, but i think it's because of video drivers, i think01:33
bl4ckcombwhat vendor do you have?01:34
DemoOnati radeon 685001:34
bl4ckcombdunno, but if the live usb boots fine, it should also work for the installation. afaik ubuntu uses a generic graphics driver =/01:35
JasonGriffeehow to i install a program from a .run file?01:36
bl4ckcomblet me see if I can find out how to make the violet screen verbose01:36
DemoOnok01:36
bl4ckcombDemoOn, try hitting alt+f1 while booting01:37
DemoOnbl4ckcomb: what will it do?01:37
zykotick9JasonGriffee, in a terminal, cd to the directory with the foo.run file, then "sudo ./foo.run"01:37
bl4ckcombit should show you everything that's loading at boottime01:37
bl4ckcombso you can check where it shows errors or halts01:38
zykotick9JasonGriffee, you might also have to "chmod +x foo.run" before the "sudo ./foo.run"01:38
DemoOnbl4ckcomb: i hit that when i had vilet screen for a while and then it sowed only black screen01:38
dsirijusdo you guys understand how annoying is to work on a 2x6cm trackpad and malfunctioning trackpoint? if kids get murdered, it's you to blame01:38
bl4ckcombI suppose the violet screen. the black screen is probably still grub01:38
DemoOnbl4ckcomb: and what should i do if there will be error with graphics driver?01:38
zykotick9!nomodeset | DemoOn this MIGHT be worth a try01:39
ubottuDemoOn this MIGHT be worth a try: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter01:39
thenkillI have a question about YATE on ubuntu 10.04 Lucid, can anyone here possibly help me?01:39
bl4ckcombpossibly01:40
thenkill:)01:40
thenkillI have installed it through synaptic01:40
thenkilland when i run "yate" in terminal no gui comes up01:40
darktstar999try 'apropos yate' maybe?01:40
thenkillnothing happend01:41
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zykotick9thenkill, are you sure yate is a GUI program?  i'm guess not by it's dependencies.01:41
thenkillif i run "yate" it gets to "Yate engine is initialized and starting up on box" then just sits there....01:42
seekwillHi. Is there anything special with the server install if I don't install any of the pre-defined services? For example, can I install X via apt without any problems?01:42
thenkillit is a voip application and has a gui on windows01:42
LaPingvinocan anybody tell me how I can get grub's name for a specific partition?01:42
zykotick9seekwill, you can yes01:42
darktstar999thenkill: install yate-gtk201:42
BlackWebDoes anyone know the best way to Compress a Dvd On Linux01:42
MitochondriaShrink it?01:43
thenkillok.. i will try that... Thanks01:43
zykotick9BlackWeb, "compress a dvd" to what?  a video file?  what format do you want?01:43
seekwillzykotick9: So server is just a minimal install?01:43
zykotick9seekwill, "basically"01:43
LaPingvinosda6 == (hd0,5)?01:43
BlackWebWhat Program Shrinks it01:43
Mitochondriahttp://dvdshrink.sourceforge.net/01:43
BlackWebI've tried DVD95 and it Shrinks it but wont work after its done 4.4 GB instead of 7.6GB01:43
geoffmccthenkill: looks like the gui is a seperate download and it runs java tested on both win and linux01:44
bl4ckcombit's what you need for a server. since a gui is not relevant for a server, it doesn't have one. also it includes options to pre-install popular services like apache, sshd, mysql, ....01:44
BlackWebRight now i have DVD on Hard Drive in ISO Format and in Audio_TS & Video_TS Folders01:44
BlackWebWant to shrink ISO Format or Folder Copies to 4.4GB01:44
seekwillzykotick9: My goal is to install a very minimal desktop, running something like fluxbox VM and a few gtk-based apps under. Don't need the full kde/gnome suite. Any recommendations on approach?01:45
DeviceZer0!java01:45
ubottuTo just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.01:45
pragmaticenigmaseekwill: I would suggest Xfce with Xubuntu01:45
BlackWebHeard of vamps & dvdauthor, but not sure how to utilize them to shrink it down01:45
zykotick9seekwill, what you want is certainly possible.  But I'm not going to recommend ANYTHING about a server with a GUI.  Good luck.01:45
seekwillpragmaticenigma: I really like fluxbox :)01:45
pragmaticenigmaseekwill: XFCE is a lighter weight desktop and has some of the same features of fluxbox... I don't think there are any straight up Fluxbox version of Ubuntu01:46
bl4ckcombBlackWeb, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DVDShrink01:46
zykotick9pragmaticenigma, XFCE is HEAVY compared to fluxbox01:46
seekwillzykotick9: Well, that's why I was wondering how the server is different than desktop or alt01:46
xangua!minimal | seekwill pragmaticenigma01:46
ubottuseekwill pragmaticenigma: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD01:46
bl4ckcombBlackWeb, this one requires wine though...01:47
seekwillxangua: ah, I'll look into that. Thanks!01:47
zykotick9seekwill, i just don't believe is servers with GUIs is all...01:47
rypervencheseekwill: I second that.01:47
thenkillmkay, I installed yate-gtk2 through apt-get01:47
somsipseekwill: install minimal install CD. Then install something that depends on X. It should pull in eveyrthing you need. Worked for me using awesomeWM01:47
pragmaticenigmaxangua: he's looking for a GUI desktop with fluxbox... and I said XFCE is a "Lighter" not light-weight01:47
thenkillwhen I type yate-gtk2 in01:47
thenkillit is not found01:47
seekwillsomsip: Sounds like a plan.01:48
thenkillok im sorry01:48
zykotick9thenkill, open a terminal and type "yate<TAB><TAB>" to see the various yate* executables - perhaps one will stick out?01:48
thenkilli found a new entry in the menu for it..01:49
thenkilland it opened up01:49
somsipseekwill: since then I've had to pull in a few gnomish components when I've installed other packages, but nothing too heavy AFAICT01:49
thenkillThanks again01:49
xMopxIs it possible to have /boot/ be on a mdadm partition?01:52
DemoOnbl4ckcomb: didnt work01:52
DemoOnbl4ckcomb: how can i disable display drivers from usb?01:53
bl4ckcombDemoOn, you can do it in xorg.conf01:54
bl4ckcombDemoOn, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver01:54
thenkillStupid question but how do i have the volume icon by the clock in ubuntu?01:55
bl4ckcombthenkill, classic or unity?01:56
thenkilllucid i believe01:56
thenkill10.0401:56
DemoOnbl4ckcomb: wheres xrog.conf located/01:56
bl4ckcombI mean the desktop environment. is it gnome or unity?01:57
DemoOn?01:57
thenkillgnome01:57
bl4ckcombDemoOn, /etc/X11/xorg.conf I think. it should be on the page I gave you01:57
DemoOnbl4ckcomb: i don't have that, cuz page says xorg isnt needed anymore01:57
bl4ckcombthenkill, then you can add it by right-clicking the panel and adding widgets01:57
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xangua!panels | thenkill01:58
ubottuthenkill: To reset the GNOME panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »01:58
zykotick9DemoOn, fyi xorg.conf doesn't exist by default - you have to create it01:59
thenkillI see no volume or alsa mixer in the list of panel widgets01:59
DemoOnzykotick9: how then i can disable display drivers?01:59
dsirijusok, i've managed to narrow down the issue to following - when cursor is moving too fast, it stops02:05
StepNjumpjrib I found a way I think02:05
dsirijuswtf02:05
netcan you help me? how to set up krusader to automatically open mp3 files in audacious?02:05
NertskullAnyone have suggestions for the best podcast client (i.e. gpodder) for ubunut?  Should I just be sticking with gpodder?02:06
StepNjumpjrib I have a backup I made. Since I'm still thinking the win way, I didn't realize before that I could use the backup to restore my ~/. is that true?02:06
StepNjumpNertskull, please let me know when you find it because I'm looking for one too02:07
pragmaticenigmaNertskull: gpodder is available for Ubuntu02:07
pragmaticenigmaNertskull: Otherwise Miro uses some of the same code but has a nicer interface and built in player02:08
Nertskullpragmaticenigma: Yeah I've been using gpodder, I was wondering if there was something better, sorry I should have phrased it better02:08
NertskullI'll give miro a look02:09
StepNjumpWhat is the best way to copy all folders and all containted data by overwriting the destination with cp please?02:09
pragmaticenigmaNertskull: Miro and gpodder both are built on the same Python code02:09
pragmaticenigmaanother option is Juice, but I have not had any experience with it... I have been really happy with gpodder02:09
pragmaticenigmaStepNjump: you can use the argument -f and it will force the overwritting of files02:10
fouad_hi guys02:11
pragmaticenigmaHello fouad_02:11
StepNjumpthank you very much pragmaticenigma02:12
fouad_is anyone experienced with the Zend framework?02:13
pragmaticenigmaStepNjump: It's always a good idea to check if there is a man page to explain all the options some of the more common commands.  Example: man cp02:13
Plophello02:13
pragmaticenigmaStepNjump: You will find lots of cool features you never might know about02:13
pragmaticenigmafouad_: what specifically about the Zend framework do you have a question about? You may find you get an answer faster if you use a more specific question02:14
fouad_im so confused with the setup haha02:14
fouad_i did sudo apt-get install zend-framework02:15
fouad_but i dont know where to go from here02:15
pragmaticenigmawhy are you installing zend?02:15
Plopwow guys... I'm very new to this02:15
Plopnot IRC, but Ubuntu...02:15
Plopi like the app-finder-installer02:16
fouad_im rewriting my QR code application02:16
pragmaticenigmaSend is a framework, not a programming language02:16
pragmaticenigmarather "zend"02:16
fouad_i know02:17
pragmaticenigmaI guess I don't understand why you would install zend then...02:17
fouad_im wrote it in PHP02:17
fouad_just coding everything normally02:17
fouad_with my messy classes02:17
pragmaticenigmaAh, you don't need the Zend framework for that...02:17
orlokI dont suppose anybody here has used ubuntu within a pci-dss compliant scope?02:17
pragmaticenigmayou only need to install the PHP libraries02:18
fouad_there is a QR code library in Zend02:18
fouad_which i wanted to utilized02:18
NertskullIn regards to podcasts, anyone have good ideas how to sync between ubuntu and an android phone.  So I can keep track of already played ones on the phones?02:18
pragmaticenigmafouad_: I would highly recommend you find a classmate that might be able to help you get things setup...02:18
pragmaticenigmaOtherwise http://framework.zend.com/manual/en/learning.quickstart.create-project.html is a tutorial site I found02:19
somsipfouad_: do you really need Zend. If you just want a QR class, Zend is a bit of a slaedgehammer for a nutty problem02:19
xanguaNertskull: tried Ubuntu One¿02:19
pragmaticenigmaNertskull: I have not seen anything like that02:20
StepNjumppragmaticenigma I know but right now I have no time for that... I changed all my attributes in my ~/.* files02:21
netcan you help me? how to set up krusader to automatically open mp3 files in audacious?02:21
StepNjumpI'm going to try to restore from backup02:21
StepNjumpwhat a mess02:21
fouad_somsip, do you have any suggestions?02:21
PlopRandom Question: Can "LibreOffice Writer" create .doc files compatible with MSWord..?02:21
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StepNjumpI'm learning as I go.. I always take notes02:21
pragmaticenigmaStepNjump: there might be a faster way to correct permissions02:21
bazhangPlop, sure it can02:22
Plopcool.. :)02:22
Plopwhere do I go? .. i'm newb.. channel suggestions?02:22
StepNjumpoh yes pragmaticenigma? How???????????????/02:22
xanguaPlop: clic on Save As02:22
pragmaticenigmaPlop: When saving your document you will see an option to change the file format in the save file dialoge02:22
StepNjumpIf you could find me a way, I would appreciate it a lot. All my files are chmod 64402:22
fouad_my main focus was on the application02:22
pragmaticenigmaStepNjump: navigate to the base directory where you want to affect your changes to. For instance if you user home directory go to cp /home/user02:23
Plopthanks guys, i was just wondering for  future02:23
pragmaticenigmaStepNjump: Then run: sudo chmod a=rwX ./02:23
StepNjumppragmaticenigma do you mean cd /home/user?02:24
pragmaticenigmaStepNjump: Yes, sorry I get the two backwards all the time02:24
fouad_and i was using the google chart api. but now i want to rewrite the rendering02:24
fouad_and the creation to make it more custom02:24
StepNjumpYes but that would but everything the same.. I looked at all the permissions in there and they are all different pragmaticenigma02:24
StepNjumpthat's one I will never forget. I spent my youth in DOS pragmaticenigma02:25
pragmaticenigmaStepNjump: Yes, they are different, but this will not hurt anything02:26
Lake31what is the channel for Linux Mint?02:26
bazhang!mintsupport | Lake3102:26
ubottuLake31: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org02:26
Plopanyone know how to get XChat to highlight certain words?02:26
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bazhangPlop, settings > preferences02:27
StepNjumppragmaticenigma, really... nice! No problem with security either?02:28
pragmaticenigmaStepNjump: It's going to allow anyone with access to the system the chance to see your file... is this a local machine or are you remoted to a shared computer?02:28
owner_can someone please tell me how to chmod using the -R to get all my files and folders in /home/owner to be under my user's permission?02:29
StepNjumpI'm remoted with RDC to Windows02:29
StepNjumpand smb://02:29
owner_I'm having a huge file permissions issue02:29
StepNjumppragmaticenigma sorry02:29
pragmaticenigmaStepNjump: another option would be to setup a new user account, copy your personal files to that new account and then delete the old account02:29
StepNjumpYes I though about doing that too02:29
pragmaticenigmaStepNjump: that way your the normal settings are setup properly, and you only have to worry about your personal files02:30
owner_Ya guys that's what i just did, but the permissions are wrong.02:30
StepNjumpWhat about if I were restoring from my backintime?02:30
owner_SOS please help02:30
pragmaticenigmaI'm not familiar with backintime, sorry02:30
owner_sudo chmod  u=rx /home/owner* -R does not work02:30
StepNjumpI just forgotten to do a cd Documents before changing to 644!02:30
jiohdiowner for one I think it is u+rx02:31
pragmaticenigmaowner_: your commands are in the wrong order... but the -R before the u=rx02:31
penguin_03does ubuntu 10.04 obey the DEB_BUILD_HARDENING variable? In other worlds will it enable what http://wiki.debian.org/Hardening#Using_Hardening_Options says it does for debian?02:31
scorinitronI'm trying to install flubox in xubuntu do I need to get rid of anything first?02:32
pragmaticenigmapenguin_03: Ubuntu is based on Debian... I would think that anything available to Debian should be available in Ubuntu02:32
owner_pragmaticenigma I tried that02:32
owner_it's telling me that I don't have permission02:32
bazhangscorinitron, nope02:32
owner_because I can't change the .gvfs file02:32
pragmaticenigmaowner_: check out jiohdi comment02:33
owner_I tried changing the permissions for .gvfs but it won't let me02:33
owner_using sudo nautilus02:33
scorinitronThanks bazhang, I'm new to the xfce GUI how would I get/apply themes? (trying to get a wicked tron theme going ^^)02:33
bazhangscorinitron, in flux? or in xfce402:34
bazhangscorinitron, oh wait flubox? or did you mean fluxbox02:34
owner_chmod: cannot access `/home/owner/.gvfs': Permission denied pragmaticenigma jiohdi02:34
scorinitronYeah Yeah Fluxbox ^^02:35
scorinitronand I'm using xubuntu 11.10 I think that's xfce402:35
jiohdiowner_, u=rx does not give you write permissions... that seems important02:35
bazhangscorinitron, log out then choose fluxbox from the login screen02:35
pragmaticenigmascorinitron: yes, there isn't anything you should remove until after you have fluxbox installed02:35
scorinitronwait a min...I didn't install it02:35
owner_jiohdi that's correct02:35
jiohdiowner_, if you have no write permission... dont that mean you cannot alter it?02:36
owner_I haven't used chmod before02:36
scorinitronwhat's the Terminal command? I keep getting it wron02:36
scorinitrong02:36
owner_jiohdi I ran nautilus as sudo to try and fix it02:36
jiohdiscoopex, xterm?02:36
owner_jiohdi tried right clicking on it to change the properties02:37
jiohdiscorinitron, sorry02:37
pragmaticenigmaowner_: the problem with that is nautilus needs that folder to work02:37
scorinitron?02:37
fouad_does anyone know of a good php QR code generator library ?02:37
jiohdibtw, I just discovered guake, which gives you an instant drop down terminal screen on f12, I love it02:37
pragmaticenigmascorinitron: what command are you looking for?02:37
bazhangscorinitron, terminal command to install fluxbox?02:37
scorinitron^^ Yep02:37
bazhang!find flux02:38
owner_pragmaticenigma so your saying I have to close the system and start it in terminal only mode with no GUI to fix this?02:38
ubottuFound: fluxbox, torrentflux02:38
scorinitronsudo apt-get install fluxbox ?02:38
bazhangyep02:38
scorinitrondidn't work...02:38
pragmaticenigmaowner_: I think what you need to do is create a new user account and move your stuff to it02:38
bazhangwhat error scorinitron02:38
owner_pragmaticenigma if I do that, I'll still have my file permission issues02:38
scorinitronstrike that I got it02:38
scorinitron^^02:38
scorinitronThanks guys02:39
ubuntu_I did dd if=xy.img of=/dev/sda bs=4m by mistake and I wanted to do /dev/sdb after I rebooted grub says: unknown filesystem, any ideas how to fix this?02:39
pragmaticenigmaowner_: You fix those individually02:39
owner_wow, too many files to fix individually02:39
owner_need to use -R to fix them all02:40
pragmaticenigmaubuntu_: You will need to reinstall02:40
owner_Oh wow02:40
owner_ok02:40
pragmaticenigmaowner_: that wasn't for you02:40
ubuntu_pragmaticenigma, there's no other way? do you know how I can pick up my files as my home partition was decrypted02:40
scorinitronok so now that it's installed...how would I install a theme?02:40
pragmaticenigmacan't people come up with more unique names so they aren't so easily confused02:40
ubuntu_encrpyted*02:40
scorinitronor would it be better if I log out and lof back in...02:40
scorinitron*log02:40
pragmaticenigmaubuntu_: dd overwrote all your data and there is very little chance that you will recover that02:41
pragmaticenigma!dd02:41
ubuntu_:(02:41
freetzanyone using libarchive-dev on 11.10? I can link against it just fine on 11.04, but on 11.10 it just goes to lunch and it can't resolve symbols to that library02:41
freetzld shows that i'm reading in the library just fine though...02:41
pragmaticenigmathe program dd makes a bit for bit copy from one device or image to another device... there are no failsafes02:42
mazda01howdy. happy thanksgiving to those in the US02:42
mazda01is there an easy way to setup a folder of music to share to the internet? I already run a webserver with mythweb, just can't figure out how to have a folder like view and when I click on the file I want to play, it launches a media player and plays it./02:43
bazhangscorinitron, log out then log in after choosing fluxbox02:43
scorinitronkk brb02:43
ubuntu_pragmaticenigma, is there any way I can mount that partition via live cd?02:44
pragmaticenigmaubuntu_: all of your data has been lost when dd wrote the image data to the device... it will not likely mount02:44
pragmaticenigmaubuntu_: The data is gone02:44
hdpbI just found a tutorial to add shred to the context menu. Is there a way to require a password before it executes?02:45
ubuntu_pragmaticenigma, I realize that it's just hard to comprehend as I had so many important things on that disk02:45
fouad_pragmaticenigma, could you please recommend to me a php framework that is good for rendering QR codes02:45
pragmaticenigmahdpb: No, best to remove it from your context menu and instead designate a folder and setup a script to clear files placed in it using shred02:45
orlokubuntu_: generally this lesson takes a hardware failure to learn02:45
orlokubuntu_: so think yourself lucky02:46
scorinitronback02:46
orlokubuntu_: (restore from your backups.. what backups? theres your lesson)02:46
fouad_wb scorinitron02:46
scorinitronand jezz this is minimalistic02:46
pragmaticenigmaubuntu_: dd overwrote everything on your harddrive with the file information in the *.img file... there is no recoverable information left except for the information that was in the *.img file02:46
scorinitronso...um wow02:47
orlokpragmaticenigma: actually, it depends on the size of the .img file02:47
hdpbpragmaticenigma: any tutorials you know of? Definitely don't  need to have my 5-year-old with shredability...02:47
scorinitronI now have no idea where to begin...0.002:47
skyballi've downloaded SuperTuxKart, and it is Awesome.  Except no joysticks have worked for me yet, I've tried two.  The application sees them, and I can configure buttons, but I cannot race with the joystick, only keyboard. :(    Can anyone help?02:47
ubuntu_orlok, I have backups, just not from the important thing I was working on for past few days02:47
orlokubuntu_: how big was the .img file?02:47
ubuntu_it was image of chromium-os ~400mb02:47
fouad_hey somsip02:47
scorinitronfouad_, Thanks man!02:47
pragmaticenigmaorlok: If he wants to recover the data this is not the place to find help on that... it's far beyond the scope of this forum02:48
scorinitronfouad_, Didn't see the message till now ^^02:48
orlokubuntu_: there may be  a way to retrieve your data, i'm not sure how though.02:48
fouad_haha its ok02:48
ubuntu_orlok, lets see if google helps02:48
orlokubuntu_: http://freecode.com/search?q=ext3+data+recovery&submit=Search02:48
pragmaticenigmaubuntu_ orlok : the only place I can think of to start would be photorec... that's all I can suggest and help with02:49
bazhang!undelete > ubuntu_02:49
ubottuubuntu_, please see my private message02:49
pragmaticenigma!pm | bazhang02:49
ubottubazhang: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.02:49
ubuntu_pragmaticenigma, I used photorec once and it did wonders for me02:49
bazhangpragmaticenigma, hmm?02:49
pragmaticenigmait might get *SOME* and I stress *SOME* of you data02:50
pragmaticenigmabazhang: it's best to keep all comments and help in the main chat and not redirect comments to pm messages02:50
bazhangpragmaticenigma, thats not what the !pm was made for02:51
pragmaticenigmabazhang: I don't have every canned response memorized02:51
mrpink57you better get on that :)02:51
scorinitronis their a way to put short cuts on the desktop of fluxbox?02:51
bazhangpragmaticenigma, using the > to redirect factoids is 100% fine02:52
benjrive got a webcam which is listed as being UVC supported in linux (http://www.ideasonboard.org/uvc/), i plug it in, open cheese, and it says no webcam detected, what do i do?02:52
pragmaticenigmabut then I don't get the benefit of seeing the message and therefore risk repeating it contradicting what was said02:52
bazhangpragmaticenigma, thats why most of us have a /msg open with ubottu02:53
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pragmaticenigma!ot | bazhang02:53
ubottubazhang: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:53
bazhangpragmaticenigma, please stop that02:53
darktstar999both of you...............02:53
scorinitronOk well I'm back in fluxbox...and it's naked lol02:55
scorinitronwhere would I start02:55
benjrive got a webcam which is listed as being UVC supported in linux (http://www.ideasonboard.org/uvc/), i plug it in, open cheese, and it says no webcam detected, what do i do?02:56
goerHi all. I hv Ubuntu installed and another debian distro. I need to reinstall Ubuntu but want to keep the grub of the other distro intact. Hoto pls. Thnx02:56
goerHowto02:56
pragmaticenigmascorinitron: I think it's time to experiment... also, I think google is going to get you answers much quicker than we can as you learn new territory02:56
bazhanghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox scorinitron02:56
stoufahi everybody02:56
goerhi02:56
bazhanggoer, what other distro02:56
goerElive202:57
scorinitronThanks guys02:57
pragmaticenigmabenjr: We need more information , what is the make and model of the webcam02:57
scorinitronI guess I'm off02:57
pragmaticenigmabenjr: Have you tried searching for your device name and ubuntu or linux on google to see if others have had problems or solutions on how to resolve the issue you are experiencing02:57
goerbazhang, is that a Chinese name? Ba Zhang02:58
bazhanggoer, elive2 is a derivative of ubuntu? why not just use e17 with ubuntu02:58
ElemsSup dudes. ctrl + alt + f2 through f6 all bring up a blank screen, no console or anything. Also, I have no splash image when this laptop starts up, are these issues possibly related?02:59
pragmaticenigma!ot | goer02:59
ubottugoer: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:59
jibin102:59
bazhang!webcam > benjr02:59
ubottubenjr, please see my private message02:59
goerbazhang, No, that is another issue. I just want to know how to do the reinstall whilst keeping my Other distro grub intact02:59
bazhangbenjr, best to check the list of supported webcams03:00
pragmaticenigmaElems: no, they are likely different... splash screen is related to your graphics drivers03:00
benjrpragmaticenigma, its a "Creative Live! Cam Optia", as for searching google, the first few pages ive found are just peoepl saying it worked, still searching now03:00
benjrbazhang, thanks, checking that site now03:00
pragmaticenigmattys are setup differently... what is the make and model of your computer Elems03:00
bazhanggoer, well you'd have to update grub for elive2 then03:00
bazhanggoer, not sure why  it matters which writes to the mbr though03:01
goerbazhang, Ah, ok, reinstall ubuntu and then boot into the other dualboot ditro and do a sudo update -grub?03:01
Elemspragmaticenigma : I have a lenovo u460 with the geforce 305m graphics card, using proprietary drivers, and switchable graphics turned off in my bios03:01
Henric__I was hoping someone could help me. Oneirc Ocelot won't load Unity, in normal or recovery mode.03:02
goerbazhang, If I use the ubuntu mbr the other ditro hangs, That is why03:02
bazhanggoer, that would do it, though it adds an extra (and unnecessary imo ) step03:02
stoufaI have a problem with webcam and graphics card does not work03:02
pragmaticenigmaElems: I have the same issue with my desktop and an nvidia card... sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't... any particular reason you need the ttys outside the GUI?03:02
Elemspragmaticenigma not really, just an observation recently. I was thinking it could somehow be related to suspend and hibernate not working on this laptop, which was going to be my next issue to ask about03:03
goerbazhang, I hv seen a howto on installing Windoze as dualboot, after ubuntu is already installed. But hv lost the location where...03:04
benjrbazhang, that list says its supported by UVC, the UVC's website says that the driver is natively installed in kernel 2.6.26 and later, im running kernel 2.6.3503:04
Elemspragmaticenigma also, after going into the ttys I can't ctrl alt f7 back into the gui03:04
pragmaticenigmaElems: suspend and hibernate are known issues for all machines... the two are highly unrelated... however I wouldn't be concerned about not seeing a boot splash or having access to the ttys03:04
bazhanggoer, well be certain to have backups (of course) and choose the correct partition to write ubuntu to03:04
pragmaticenigmagui is on F803:05
Elemspragmaticenigma oh... that would explain that.03:05
bazhangbenjr, what have you tried? cheese? camorama? or something other03:05
benjrbazhang, cheese03:05
goerbazhang, thnx 4 ur help. So if i reinstall ubuntu, where to put the grub? In mbr or a separate place?03:06
pragmaticenigmayeah... pet peeve of mine Elems, depending in the distro they seem to move it around... Fedora its F1, CentOS and OpenSuse F7, Ubuntu F803:06
goerWow....I must say this is a very good irc. Gr8! :)03:07
Elems_pragmaticenigma well that didn't work either :D03:08
pragmaticenigmaNot f1 either?03:08
pragmaticenigmaElems_: Does it at least boot into the GUI?03:09
pragmaticenigmaElems_: also, sometimes it takes a moment or two for the screen to redraw when you hit the right one03:09
Elems_pragmaticenigma What do you mean? I'm on the laptop right now. So what happened is I tried going into the f2, knowing it wouldnt work, then tried to go to the f8 and that didn't work. I waited.03:10
pragmaticenigmawhat about F1?03:10
MitochondriaProbably Irvine03:10
Henric__Could someone please tell me why I can't get past grub to Unity in 11.10? I don't want to reinstall Ubuntu and lose what I've been able to download so far.03:10
Elems_pragmaticenigma I'm not going to worry about that issue any longer... f1 kills it too03:10
pragmaticenigmaElems_: sounds like a good plan... if it does what you need it to, wouldn't worry too much about the rest... it's gotta be on one of the function keys... I just don't know which one (footnote: my laptops running ubuntu seem to use F8 while my desktop uses F7)03:12
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blarggI seem able to mount a Mac OS X HFS+ volume that uses journaling under Ubuntu as read-write. I had read that it supports read-only if journaling was enabled. I'm worried it'll corrupt it since it appears read-write. What's up?03:13
Elems_pragmaticenigma And you don't have any advice on suspend / hibernation before I ask the whole channel?03:14
benjrbazhang, after reading your comment i just installed camorama and it worked :) only cheese that doesnt seem to work03:14
bazhangbenjr, thats a good start then03:14
pragmaticenigmaElems_: Most here will say the same thing... Power Management in linux is still a work in progress... it either works at this point or it doesn't03:15
Elems_pragmaticenigma that's what i was afraid of :(03:15
TroN-0074hi03:16
pragmaticenigmaElems_: I see it work a little more dependably on older hardware03:16
CrimHey guys03:16
CrimI'm calling the cops on you all03:16
bazhangCrim, wrong ,place for that03:16
TroN-0074yes03:16
CrimYou use the illegal, communist (AGAIN- READ, ILLEGAL), Lunix OS03:16
devkorcvincebenjr after running camorama try cheese again... it might be a problem on gstream v4lsrc03:16
szallol03:16
bazhangCrim, #ubuntu-offtopic please03:16
TroN-0074what is lunix os?03:17
CrimDeveloped by the North Chinese to build a net bot meant to kill the United Stated Internet03:17
CrimAnd you are all going to jail03:17
bazhangTroN-0074, lets move on please03:17
TroN-0074sure03:17
pragmaticenigmathanks you bazhang03:17
CrimOh now you censor free speech?03:17
CrimCOMMUNIST SCUM03:17
CrimI can say what I want03:17
bazhangCrim, thats enough03:17
FloodBot1Crim: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:17
CrimYou stupid north chinese.03:18
geoffmccdont feed the trolls03:18
skyballget out03:18
benjrdevkorcvince, heh youre right, although cheese is very laggy, the stream on camorama is smooth03:18
c_smithwhat is goint on here?03:18
c_smith*going03:18
aeon-ltdwar03:18
aeon-ltdHUH!03:18
TroN-0074anyway I just downloaded irssi so I thought to give it a try here tonight03:19
aeon-ltdWhat is it good for?!03:19
TroN-0074good so far03:19
bazhangaeon-ltd, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic03:19
szalaeon-ltd: Absolutely nothing!03:19
c_smith*sigh* should I get an op or someone in here to deal with this? I'm pretty sure #ubuntu is NOT for messages of pure opinionrs. and hate towards othe03:19
darktstar999TroN-0074: irssi is good03:19
bazhangc_smith, its over , lets move on03:20
aeon-ltdTroN-0074: +1 the autocomplete algorithm is awesome compared to other irc clients03:20
c_smithTroN-0074, I've heard people who use it tend to like it if they like use Command line.03:20
darktstar999offtopic03:20
c_smithbazhang, ok03:20
TroN-0074yes since I am new to ubuntu I want to force myself to use the command line03:20
darktstar999join #ubuntu-offtopic03:20
blarggOK, I just tried touching a file on this HFS+ journaled volume, unmounting, then remounting, and the date stayed modified, so writing is indeed being allowed. I mounted normally from Disk Utility, so I don't get it. Either HFS+ journaled can be modified now, and the docs are wrong, or the system is incorrectly allowing writes.03:21
c_smithTroN-0074, I wouldn't say that's the best route for most people, but everyone learns differently, so if you learn better that way, go for it, but please, could we continue this in #ubuntu-offtopic?03:21
c_smithI'm sure everyone else would appreciate it.03:21
SpyderZHey guys, quick question.03:22
blarggI'm running Ubuntu 10.04 as well, nothing really new.03:22
pragmaticenigma!ask | SpyderZ03:22
ubottuSpyderZ: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience03:22
zerosumHi, I cannot get a viable Android Virtual Device going under03:22
zerosumopps, under eclipse03:22
afmevening all.  having an odd issue on a fresh install of 11.10 on a dell 1950.  One nic is working perfectly, however the 2nd doesn't show in ifconfig, but i can see it in lspci and dmidecode… ideas on what i'm missing?03:23
c_smithzerosum, I'm not sure what you're asking03:23
StepNjumpI am trying to run a limited account (desktop user). How can I possibly run sudo from such an account? sudo -i?03:23
skyball!patience03:23
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/03:23
SpyderZI have a friend with an old laptop that I want to run Ubuntu, but after making the Pendrive with my SanDisk Cruzer and creating a boot drive to install Ubuntu, the system wouldn't boot the drive. I don't have any CD or DVD media to burn a disk. Is there a method I can still get Ubuntu to install?03:23
bazhangSpyderZ, does it have the option to boot from usb? how old is old03:24
pragmaticenigmaafm: A fresh install typically will setup a primary network card, it's up to you to configure the additional cards, likely through network manager03:24
zerosumThe emulator never seems to launch it is in the process of launching but it never actually gets to the HOME screen03:24
StepNjumpspyderZ some of the old computers don't boot from USB pens... Have you tried to go in the BIOS?03:24
BernSamsonHow do I permanently disable an input device?03:24
SpyderZbashing StepNJump: Yes, was in the BIOS and set to USB boot and nothing.03:24
c_smithhmmmm, well, I have no way to help you, tbh, that's not my strong point.03:24
SpyderZMachine is at least 6-7 years old.03:25
StepNjumpmmm03:25
devkorcvinceSpyderZ: have you change the boot sequence on the bios?03:25
StepNjumpIt ignored it altogether?03:25
devkorcvinceSpyderZ: ooopz late rply03:25
chaycan anybody help me in traffic redirection on Ubuntu/pound with the config files ?03:25
supercar_heavenhow to decrease the brightness of me netbook screen i have nvidia optimus technology graphic card03:26
SpyderZYeah, I got the bios set to what it should be and nothing. If I could install a new partition, copy the image and modify the boot menu.03:26
geoffmccSpyderZ: if there is an option in the bios to boot from usb there should be no problem. it may be the drive or it may just have fouled up when you were prepairing03:26
AndrewX192I am looking to setup a tripple monitor setup on Ubuntu 10.04. Any recommendations for a graphics card?03:26
skyballi've downloaded SuperTuxKart, and it is Awesome.  Except no joysticks have worked for me yet, I've tried two.  The application sees them, and I can configure buttons, but I cannot race with the joystick, only keyboard. :(    Can anyone help?03:26
devkorcvinceAndrewX192: Nvidia works fine on me using the recommended driver...03:27
afmpragmaticenigma:  i edit /etc/network/interfaces… and restarted… Cannot find device "eth1" and Failed to bring up eth1.  nothing in dmesg03:27
AndrewX192devkorcvince: But with 3X monitors? If so - twinview?03:28
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SpyderZSan Disk puts this stupid U3 partition on it's USB disk keys.03:29
SpyderZI need to wipe the entire drive, get that crap off.03:29
geoffmccSpyderZ: i was just gonna say that, i am reading right now nattty has problems with it03:29
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geoffmccSpyderZ: there is u3-tool in repository03:29
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skyballwhere do I find a support channel for SuperTuxKart ?03:30
devkorcvinceAndrewX192: it can detect my hdmi and vga monitor it has no problem doing it... i can set the position also...03:30
skilzskyball, google it? Whats the problem?03:31
skyballskilz:  It sees my joystick(s) and I can set the buttons.  But I can only play the game with keyboard only. :(03:31
geoffmccSpyderZ: or use sandisk's tool if only have windows available03:31
SpyderZgeoffmcc: I see that now.03:32
SpyderZYeah, I have Virtualbox with Win7 right now.03:32
SpyderZThat's how I made the boot drive.03:32
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EnigmaticEffigy_Hello. In Ubuntu 10.10, where is grub.conf located?03:32
dr_willis!grub203:33
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)03:33
AndrewX192devkorcvince: I already have a simular setup. It really hinges on 3 monitors instead of 2, there is talk of it not being supported03:34
EnigmaticEffigy_I haven't lost grub. I just need to add a line to the conf file.03:34
dr_willis /boot/grub/grub.cfg   is for grub2. but you nomrally DONT edit that file by hand03:34
mwhudsonanyone know why "Make Discoverable Apple AirTunes sound devices available locally" might be greyed out in paprefs?03:34
JusticeZeroAny word on the freezing problem in 11.10?03:35
happyface!who03:35
ubottuAs you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)03:35
EnigmaticEffigy_I know, I just need to add the one line for my network card.03:35
AndrewX192devkorcvince: "MetaMode 1 of Screen 0 has more than two active display devices."03:36
chaycan anybody help with a Ubuntu/pound problem diverting all http traffic on port 80 to port 80 of an internal iis server. we currently diver all htts traffic on port 443 to port 80 internally of the iis server. ?03:38
stoufawhat's means sudo apt-get install subversion mkdir webcam-driver someone help me03:38
mwhudsonoh hm, it seems to be in effect anyway03:39
devkorcvinceAndrewX192: are you using 2 video cards right? or are you using a laptop? my bad I use 2 monitors and the third 1 is my laptop monitor...03:39
geoffmccstoufa: sudo gives superuser apt-get install installs packages subversion mkdir webcam-driver are the packages to install03:39
dr_willis!apt | stoufa03:40
ubottustoufa: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Adept (KDE) or !KPackageKit (KDE)03:40
stoufasvn co svn://rastageeks.org/svn/ov51x-jpeg/trunk webcam-driver and this03:41
mediat0rHey everybody. So I have a quick question about sharing files with Samba. I was following the guide here (http://goo.gl/JAXPc) which recommends sharing from /srv/samba/sharename. If I wanted to share files from other locations can I just mount files to this location and then add the approriate lines to smb.conf? What options should I put for the mount in fstab?03:41
AndrewX192devkorcvince: No, I think I'd just be going with one.03:41
dr_willis!svn03:41
ubottusvn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/03:41
dr_willisstoufa:  svn is used to compile stuff :) basically...03:42
BernSamsonhow do you permanently disable an input device?03:42
dr_willisBernSamson:  depends on the device i imagine.03:42
CarlFKmediat0r: "other locations" sounds like they are all ready mounted somewhere else03:42
chaycan anybody help with a Ubuntu/pound problem diverting all http traffic on port 80 to port 80 of an internal iis server. we currently diver all htts traffic on port 443 to port 80 internally of the iis server. ?03:43
BernSamsonI've been using xinput set-prop 12 "Device Enabled" 0 ... but I'm finding I need to input that in Terminal everytime I boot up...is there a way to make that permanent so I don't need to do it every time I boot?03:43
mediat0rCarlFX: yeah they are files located in /home03:43
dr_willisBernSamson:  theres the various user autorun methods. and theres some ways to get stuff ran by the login manager also.03:44
dr_willis!autorun03:44
dr_willis!autostart03:44
ubottuTo add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot03:44
dr_willisBernSamson:  its possible /etc/rc.local may do what you need as well.03:44
CarlFKmediat0r: I think you want to share /home/the_user, or maybe /home/the_user/some_sharedir03:44
bandit22anybody use mupen64plus or know where to get help for it03:45
bazhangbandit22, whats the question? from the PPA?03:46
SpyderZgeoffmcc: I think I got it working now thanks. Now I can get kid on Ubuntu and off Windows XP.03:46
bandit22from repo v1.5 not able to select rice video plugin03:46
bazhangah its in the repos now03:46
c_smithbazhang, I'm pretty sure just the Getdeb repos03:47
geoffmccSpyderZ: good, i totally forgot about u3 and should have firstly asked if it was sandisk, but in my defence, i always remove u3 whenever i get one03:48
bazhangc_smith, the regular ubuntu repos03:48
bazhang!info mupen64plus03:48
mediat0rCarlFK: You're exactly right and I understand how to share such locations. So it's not bad practice to share different locations on the OS like /home directories? I thought it would be better to keep all shares in the same place?03:48
ubottumupen64plus (source: mupen64plus): plugin-based Nintendo 64 emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5+dfsg1-16 (oneiric), package size 1261 kB, installed size 4056 kB (Only available for any-i386 any-amd64)03:48
c_smithbazhang, huh, didn't know that.03:48
whoevercan i have ssh-server without ssh-client? or must I have both?03:49
CarlFKmediat0r: i think it depends on what the security needs are, like is it a server with a bunch of users that have a common place to share with other win boxes, or the same one user on 2 boxes03:51
BernSamsonI think I've got it...03:52
bjorn_hello03:52
CarlFKmediat0r: and even then I don't think there is much consensus on what's best.03:52
orlokwhoever: iu.. guess so.. if you really wanted to.. but.. WHY/03:53
BernSamsonWillis: just add a 'disable' name and add the disable string to the 'run'?03:53
OsmodivsHello. Is this a bad message from synaptic when updating yhe kernel? run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/dkms 3.0.0-14-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-14-generic  Error! Problems with depmod detected.  Automatically uninstalling this module. DKMS: Install Failed (depmod problems).  Module rolled back to built state.03:53
OsmodivsLike, do I have to worry about that?03:53
SpyderZGeoffmcc: Didn't work…still. Unreal, I hate Sandisk. However miracle friend just dropped by with a spare DVD-R. :)03:54
mediat0rCarlFK: it's a server where many users have access to the shared content. The folders are rwx enabled for users both on the computer and from accross the network. It might not be approriate to even have the data stored in /home03:54
CarlFKmediat0r: in that case your original idea sounds good03:55
mediat0rCarlFK: cool! good to know I was on the right track. any idea what options I need to have for the mount in fstab?03:56
geoffmccSpyderZ: a friend indeed, good luck!03:56
CarlFKmediat0r: the fstab entry is not really related to how samba shares the dir.  fstab gets the file system on a partition mounted so the linux OS can let processes access the files.  samba is a process, and it then needs to be configured to share those dirs04:00
dr_willisshareing a ntfs? or other weird filesystem?04:01
CarlFKdr_willis: sounds like normal ext04:01
mediat0rCarlFK: so mounting files i want to share into /srv/samba/ from other locations and then adding lines in smb.conf refferring to the /srv/samba location (rather than the origional location) is kinda unessecary?04:02
AmdpcHI...I am trying to connect to LAN,WLAN and Mobile Broadband at the same time....But it is accepting only 2 connections at a time..Is it normal ? (Wifi is used only to connect to another computer)04:02
AmdpcAnd If I want all the connections at the same time...How to do that ?04:03
CarlFKmediat0r: what do you mean by  "other locations" ?04:03
dr_willismediat0r:  a filesystem has to be mounted somewhere. befor you can share it.04:03
dr_willisit also has to have the proper permissions.04:03
opticlovecan someone help me? when i try to shrink a partition using gparted, the system freezes. i'm booting from a live cd04:04
YcareneStrange, I lost the ability to play .m4a files in qmmp after doing some updates.04:04
mediat0rCarlFK: se files I want to share are already mounted to /home and they are the files I wish to share but I read that it is good practice to have shares located at /srv/samba/ so I thought I could also mount them to that location?04:05
CarlFKmediat0r: there is no "also mount"04:05
mediat0rCarlFK: okay I see where I am confused now :P04:05
dr_willismediat0r: you can easially set up the users 'homes' as a special share. where user bob, could connect to a share thats /home/bob   user bubba can get to /home/bubba and so forth.04:05
seekwillHi. Which file determines which rcX file is used when starting up?04:06
dr_willis!upstart04:06
ubottuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/04:06
seekwilldr_willis: ah, thanks04:07
mediat0rCarlFK, dr_willis: thanks for your help :)04:07
asmodeushow do i get window focus to follow the mouse again?  after upgrading to 11.10, i can't seem to find window settings anywhere.04:07
dr_willisasmodeus:  i saw that setting somewhere. :) it Might have been in the gnome-tweak tool.04:08
fengshaunhi all, how can I make a daemon autostart on boot?04:08
nvzare there any fancy options for an unsupported printer like there are for network cards? I got a Lexmark X2350 here and doesnt seem to work at all in linux04:08
fengshaunlike ssh daemon in this case04:09
asmodeusdr_willis: installing...04:09
dr_willisfengshaun:  when you install the open ssh service. it should set itself to autostart by default.04:09
fengshaundr_willis: ah, alright!  Thanks!04:09
dr_willisyou can use the service command to see what services are running04:10
fengshaundr_willis: that helps, thanks04:11
asmodeusdr_willis: That did it.  Thanks.  Any idea how I can get my drawers back on the menu bar?04:12
dr_williswhat drawers?  You using gnome classic? or unity or what?04:13
asmodeussorry, gnome classic.04:14
dr_willisi dont use it.. thers some shift-ctrl-right click combo to tweak the panels..04:14
l3monyea the new bar is terrible04:15
chavov_i think it's alt-right click04:15
asmodeusdr_willis: alt-right click did it.  T04:15
asmodeusMany than ks04:16
dr_willisperosnally.. i think they shouldent even have the fallvback/classic modes. :)  gnome2 is dead.. time to move on. :P04:16
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l3monthis bar is pretty terrible everyone knows it04:18
asmodeusnot to be "too cool for the room", but I just found unity to be unusable.  For example: why would it hide my file, edit, view, etc. menus from me?04:18
bazhangl3mon, hardly a support question though04:18
dr_willisasmodeus:  you mean move them to the top global menu?04:18
dr_willisyou can turn global menu on/off if you wanted to.04:19
chavov_no he means not hide them when the mouse is off, but of course you can't do that04:19
l3monno but Im just voicing my opinion04:19
blakegnome shell is amazing04:19
zibbitHi, i need help desperately, i am trying to take the steps necessary in installing Windows 7 on my cmputer sans dvd, can anyone hep me?04:19
bazhangl3mon, #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat please04:19
dr_williszibbit:  ive heard you can dd the win7 iso to a flash to make a bootable flash.. but you may want to ask in #windows04:19
bazhangzibbit, related to ubuntu how?04:19
l3monand now I go to mint04:20
orlokzibbit: Why.. would you ask that here? Just because you think we know everything?04:20
docmurThere is a serious issue with my network, every so often is seems to lose network connectivity and just not function, then it would work for a while and do this all over again. When it does wortk I get great bandwidth to and from the router, when it seems to not respond it can't contact the modem04:20
zibbitEvidenly it seems as though u know everything so tell me why i'm wrong for making that assumtion... i am copying files to the root directory04:20
chaslinuxdocmur is it a dlink router?04:21
docmuryes04:21
zibbiti am taking trying to create an appropriate partition04:21
bazhangzibbit, ##windows04:21
docmurI have two connections to it04:21
docmura wireless and wired04:21
chaslinuxdocmur do you also have Windows clients on that router?04:21
orlokzibbit: you are not asking how to install ubuntu, you are asking how to install windows.. so ask ##windows?04:21
docmurboth active04:21
zibbitJtfking christ, i want to knw abut a partition, forget the hostility...04:22
chaslinuxdocmur what I've found with every dlink wifi router I've owned is they all seem to do that around the 5-6 month mark.04:22
chaslinuxI switched to a Linksys router and haven't had a problem.04:22
bazhangzibbit, no cursing, and wrong channel for it ##windows please04:22
chaslinuxdocmur I noticed it happening with dlink routers particularly when Windows clients tried doing Windows Live sessions... don't know why but the darn dlink wifi routers just don't seem to be very good. (went through 3 myself)04:23
docmurI seem to have lost connection to this04:24
chaslinuxyup, I also upgraded the firmware after resetting the routers and the upgrades didn't help any...04:25
chaslinuxHonestly, even netgear routers lasted longer for me... but now using Linksys and Tomato/MLPPP and it's nice and stable... mind you we only have 1 Windows client in the house.04:25
docmursorry got disconnected04:25
docmuranyone have an idea04:25
mohi666How can I find out info about my motherboard?04:28
bazhangmohi666, sudo lshw04:28
nvzmohi666: what kind of info are you looking for?04:28
nvzusually lshw, lsusb, lspci..etc will tell you tons04:29
nvzadding -v's as needed04:29
chaslinuxmohi666 lshw, lspci, cat /proc/cpuinfo, cat /proc/meminfo04:29
chaslinuxOh and dmidecode and biosdecode can be helpful too04:29
tucemiuxwhat's the recommended ubuntu version for netbooks nowadays?04:30
bazhangtucemiux, the latest04:30
chaslinuxtucmemiux after 10.04 they merged the netbook remix into the normal release.04:30
bazhang!une | tucemiux04:30
ubottutucemiux: Starting with Ubuntu 11.04, the Ubuntu Netbook Edition is no longer being offered as a separate install as Unity is now standard for all Ubuntu desktop installs.04:30
tucemiuxbazhang, thanks!  you know if I can install 11.04 using a usb stick?04:31
bazhangtucemiux, sure, use unetbootin04:32
tucemiuxbazhang, my laptop has 11.04 so Im going to create a usb stick with it04:32
Jordan_Utucemiux: Might as well go with 11.10.04:32
tucemiuxJordan_U,  yeah but its going to be a pain to create the usb stick04:32
Jordan_Utucemiux: Why do you say that?04:33
chaslinuxtucemiux just use startupdiskcreator in Ubuntu 11.04 with an ISO it's easy04:33
tucemiuxJordan_U, because I have to download 11.10?04:33
tucemiuxbut you know what, i dont have 11.10 - going to download just for kicks and giggles04:34
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tucemiux!unetbootin04:34
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent04:35
tucemiuxbazhang, you convinced me, unetbootin is installed o.O04:38
whoeverorlok: why would i need the client if i am no ssh-ing from the box that has the server on it04:42
A|i3NIs there any software similar to artisteer for editing Joomla templates available for ubuntu?04:42
digdeepHi, I use Jupiter to control my laptop's performance. I put it into power save mode, as the laptop is hot. After upgrade to latest kernel, the fan runs like crazy and it is hot.04:46
digdeepJupiter doesn't seem to be working.04:47
tucemiuxbazhang, I dont see an option in unetbootin for 11.10??04:47
bazhangdigdeep, jupiter installed from where?04:47
rfaydigdeep, there is a serious problem with battery performance in latest Ubuntu - you'll see it in  the latest release notes. Could be related?04:47
dr_willistucemiux:  theres altertives to unetbootin at the pendrivelinux web site. Or you can 'dd' the 11.10 iso directly to a flash drive and have a bootable flash.04:48
Jordan_Utucemiux: Just download the Ubuntu 11.10 iso and tell unetbootin to use it. It will work.04:48
tucemiuxJordan_U, but which option should I choose? under "SELECT VERSION"???04:49
digdeep@bazhang: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/jupiter-applet-finally-available-for.html04:49
alazare619just wanted to say found a pretty cool linux mmo called wakfu04:49
alazare619check it out04:49
samc101does anyone use blackbuntu04:49
alazare619not much for linux gaming but this is worth a look04:49
bazhangdigdeep, some PPA from webupd8?04:49
digdeep@bazhang, yes04:50
bazhangsamc101, no idea, not a supported distro here04:50
samc101ok thanks04:50
Jordan_Utucemiux: You shouldn't. Use the Diskimage option.04:50
bazhangdigdeep, sorry, try contacting the PPA maintainer I guess04:50
digdeepanyway to lower the performance of my laptop. It is too hot04:50
tlfHas anyone heard of mozilla crashing after installing updates in the last 48 hours?04:52
tlfon natty04:52
SpyderZIs there anyways to install Ubuntu from the command line instead of the GUI it auto boots into?04:53
bazhangSpyderZ, using the alternate cd? text based you mean?04:53
SpyderZYeah, text based04:54
bazhangSpyderZ, the minimal or the alternate cd then04:54
SpyderZI have a laptop with a cracked screen and have a second LCD monitor hooked up.04:54
SpyderZI set the BIOS to CRT only to have the LCD as the primary but Ubuntu ignores that and the signal is cut off when it loads the GUI.04:54
SpyderZThought there might had been some key combo I could press for Text install option.04:55
bazhang!alternate | SpyderZ this and !minimal04:55
ubottuSpyderZ this and !minimal: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal04:55
samc101does anyone now how to work te bluetooth on ubuntu i have been having some trouble04:55
bazhangSpyderZ, not with the live cd afaik04:55
SpyderZThanks04:55
digdeepJupiter works on lower version of kernel. It is getting cooler now.04:57
shaynei am looking for a program like "wine" but actually lets the windows program run instead of doing nothing. anyone know a program that works?04:57
tucemiuxJordan_U, ahhh ok, got it, thanks!04:57
Jordan_Utucemiux: You're welcome.04:57
bazhangshayne, runs? wine runs fine04:57
nvzshayne: haha, wine works good for me all the time.. what kind of program are you trying to run?04:58
bazhangshayne, check the appdb first04:58
bazhang!appdb | shayne04:58
ubottushayne: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help04:58
shaynebazhung, not on my machine im trying to run blackberry desktop software04:58
bazhangshayne, check if wine supports it04:58
nvzshayne: ah well that could be tricky.. many apps run well, but that one would involve complicated matter of accessing certain proprietary drivers for a usb device04:59
nvzshayne: have you looked into the blackberry software that is native linux?04:59
nvzshayne: I never owned a blackberry or used any of the software but I do recall there being blackberry sync software for linux05:00
chaslinuxMy 9780 connects and syncs without need for Windows software.05:01
bazhang!info barry-util | shayne05:01
ubottushayne: barry-util (source: barry): Command line utilities for working with the RIM BlackBerry Handheld. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.15-1ubuntu4 (oneiric), package size 135 kB, installed size 548 kB05:01
chaslinuxBerry can do it...05:01
shaynenvz , i looked into a software that runs on linux meant for the blackberrys and it all comes down to one, nothing lol05:02
michaelaahi im trying to add the xvid codec to ububntu05:03
bazhangmichaelaa, installed the ubuntu-restricted-extras package yet?05:03
michaelaayes05:03
bazhangmichaelaa, its in there05:04
michaelaabut whan i go to a website that has xvid it wont play05:04
nvzoh well he left, but I'm fairly certain there is bb software for linux05:04
bazhangmichaelaa, what website05:04
nvzyep, its called barry05:05
michaelaawatch-movies.net05:05
bazhangmichaelaa, no such site05:05
thirteenthBy the way, random shout-out, I gave Ubuntu a go on my laptop this last week, and I really am liking it--in fact, I put Windows 7 back on it, but then found myself missing Ubuntu. I think I'm a convert..? lol05:05
thirteenth(and I put Ubuntu back on--erasing Windows 7 I meant)05:05
michaelaagive me one second to find the url05:06
michaelaahttp://www.watch-movies.net.in/05:06
michaelaathat is the site05:06
michaelaait says that im missing a plugin05:07
Dante_hii05:08
Bsimsmichaelaa: what plugin is it screaming about05:08
thirteenthAnyway, on my first go at Ubuntu, my touchpad worked fine (Dell Inspiron E1705), but now when I re-installed it, it doesn't detect it-I have to connect my USB trackball to get pointing action.. I looked in the Preferences for Mouse/Touchpad, and touchpad's listed, I just don't know what's going on? Sorry to bother you folks..05:08
michaelaait says that i am missing the xvid plugin]05:09
BsimsOuch laptops are touchy sorry no idea thirteenth05:09
Bsimsmichaelaa: try telling it to use mplayer or vlc for xvid05:09
scorinitronI think I have a bit of a problem05:09
Bsimsinstall mplayer and all the non free plugings you can find05:09
scorinitronI just went into the home folder and this message came up05:09
scorinitronError stating file '/home/scorinitron/.gvfs': Transport endpoint is not connected.05:10
michaelaaok i will try05:10
thirteenthBsims: Oh, it's not your fault, no need to apologise. I'm going to poke around some more, if I fix it, I'll let know what/if I did..05:10
mohi666does anybody know how I can verify if the following video card will work with my motherboard?05:11
mohi666http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681412536605:11
Bsimsscorinitron: do this for me scorinitron sudo touch /forcefsck <enter> that will force your pc to run basicaly scandisk on next boot05:11
mohi666and motherboard is dell 0fm58605:11
jschallhow can i get rid of pulseaudio? it's breaking wine again.05:11
michaelaadid you guys get the url05:11
michaelaahttp://www.watch-movies.net.in/05:12
Bsimsjschall: gonna have disable the module, can't remove it its now a dependency05:12
scorinitronThanks Bsims05:12
jschallBsims: how?05:12
Bsimsthen apt-get install something else like jackd or esd05:12
Bsimsjschall: http://www.jeffsplace.net/node/1205:13
scorinitronI can't get this stupid theme to install either :(05:13
michaelaaif you go on that site you it says that you need the xvid plugin05:13
bazhangmichaelaa, nope it tells me hulu does not service my area05:14
Bsimsjschall: what country ya in?05:14
Bsimser michaelaa what country ya in05:15
michaelaaunited states05:15
jschallBsims: hmm, i'm actually using kde so we'll see how this works...05:15
Bsimsmichaelaa: huh worjs here05:16
Bsimsjschall: same here but cli doesn't care what terminal you type it in05:16
michaelaahow did you do that05:16
jschallBsims: well, audio currently broken...05:16
Bsimsmichaelaa: picked a movie and clicked play on the flash window05:16
Bsimsjschall: install anything with alsa and then kill pulseaudio via pid05:17
michaelaafor me it says i need a xvid plugin05:17
jschallBsims: what do you mean install anything with alsa?05:17
Know1edgehey guys, considering to switching to ubuntu, but have one small hang up... i need photoshop for my job, any ideas on how to get around it or use a vm or something?05:17
Bsimsor go into sound manager and tell it it needs to use alsa server05:17
Bsimsjust a second jschall05:18
jschallBsims: also i installed esound-common, couldn't find anything else to do with esd05:18
bazhangKnow1edge, cs seems to work in wine05:18
bazhangKnow1edge, check the appdb of course05:18
bazhang!appdb | Know1edge05:18
ubottuKnow1edge: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help05:18
Bsimsjschall: alsa-base, alsa-oss, alsa-utils05:19
Jordan_UBsims: pulseaudio runs on top of ALSA, it doesn't replace it. If jschall has pulseaudio installed he already has (and is using) ALSA.05:19
Bsimsmichaelaa: got nothing for xvid05:19
rcolbyknowledge, dual booting may be an option if you only need it to run photoshop for work?plus less resource intensive05:19
jschallJordan_U: any idea how to get rid of pulseaudio?05:20
BsimsJordan_U: yeah but its pulse isn't native alsa05:20
jschallJordan_U: and end up with working sound?05:20
Bsimshad me some issues with it05:20
michaelaai have a package called gstreamer that i and it says that it play xvid but it dosent play05:20
thirteenthSome versions of Photoshop run quite well under WINE, so I've read, Know1edge05:20
jschallwine seems to be completely fubar atm because of pulseaudio...05:21
Jordan_Ujschall: No.05:21
Jordan_Ujschall: Why do you think that pulseaudio is the problem?05:21
dr_williseveryone loves to blame pulse audio :)05:22
Bsimsmichaelaa: got installed the gstreamer0.10-plugins-foo05:22
jschallJordan_U: because #winehq says so05:22
Bsimsdr_willis: with reason if ya were there for its teething pains05:22
jschallJordan_U: and because the bug reports they linked say so05:22
volga629files       read sudoers from F</etc/sudoers>05:22
bazhangvolga629, pardon?05:23
Jordan_Ujschall: Can you give me a link to this bug report?05:23
volga629Is some body know correct syntax05:23
bazhangvolga629, to do what05:23
volga629Some reason nswitch.conf ignore derective files for ldap sudoers05:23
jschallJordan_U: this is one: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2828205:24
ubottubugs.winehq.org bug 28282 in winealsa.drv "Sound constantly crackling in lot of games" [Normal,Unconfirmed: ]05:24
jschallJordan_U: "because pulseaudio decided permanently not playing audio for a program after an underrun is a good idea"05:24
Nicolusnick c_nick05:24
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dr_willisbuffer underruns :)05:25
jschallJordan_U: i don't understand why they blame pulseaudio when its installed on almost every desktop linux machine in the world, though. they should probably be working around any of its faults...05:26
volga629so it looking straight to ldap also I added nss_initgroups_ignoreusers into the sudo-ldap.conf, but this one is ignored too, so the local system user unable run tasks properly05:26
Jordan_Ujschall: Have you tried asking in #pulseaudio? Also note that installing esound is probably not a good idea, and since you're using KDE with phonon the instructions for disabling pusleaudio use in gstreamer which Bsims linked too might not apply.05:28
bazhangemmabot, hi05:29
BsimsJordan_U: though you can tell phonon what backend to use05:29
jschallsigh. i just want my stupid game to work. i think i'll just make a windows partition for the first time in 8 years05:30
dr_willisor just use a desktop that dosent start up pulse audio...05:31
soreaujschall: Whar stupid game is it?05:31
jschalldr_willis: idk where to find one any more. i want latest release of kde, no pulse audio, debian-based05:31
jschallsoreau: portal 205:31
dr_willisyou could always just use some minimal desktop to start the game from05:32
soreaujschall: steam worked in wine for me but my drivers werent good enough to actually play portal05:32
jschallsoreau: yeah, steam is working, portal isn't crashing in wine 1.3 but sound doesn't work at all05:33
jschallsoreau: portal crashes in wine 1.205:33
soreaujschall: Have you tried adjusting sound settings in winecfg?05:33
learner_hi, im getting this error message when trying to increase priority of "java" proces in 11.10 : "Cannot change the priority of process with pid 25173 to -20. Permission denied"05:33
soreaujschall: toggling hardware emulation05:34
soreaulearner_: try sudo renice?05:34
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michaelaabsims i have GStreamer FFmpeg video plugin05:35
Jordan_Ulearner_: renicing to -20 can be a bad idea as it can starve other important processes (hence the need for root privs to do it). Why not choose a less negative niceness? What is your end goal?05:35
jschallsoreau: they redid the sound05:36
Jordan_U!pm | learner_05:36
ubottulearner_: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.05:36
soreaujschall: that doesnt answer my question though05:37
learner_sorry im new.05:37
Bsimseh may be a old package try in #pulseaudio05:37
jschallsoreau: yeah, i messed with winecfg05:38
Jordan_Ulearner_: I guess any negative niceness requires root privileges. So sudo should work, but do not use -20.05:38
learner_im playing minecraft. [ but even if i do -5 it doesnt let me05:38
dr_willis-19.999 :)05:38
learner_im really new to this, what do i use exactly?  : sudo niceness java -10?05:39
learner_i dont know much about terminal05:39
dr_williswhy are you even needing to do this learner_ ?05:39
Jordan_Ulearner_: Also, changing nicesness might not speed things up at all.05:39
learner_im playing minecraft...05:40
soreaulearner_: What do you mean it wont let you see?05:40
the_holstarI want to install Counter Strike 1.6 on ubuntu 1105:40
the_holstarWhere can i find the manuals for this?05:40
dr_willisso you are playing mine craft......05:40
soreaulearner_: I found disabling compiz/unity allowed mc to run much better here05:40
bazhangthe_holstar, the appdb05:40
dr_willis!appdb | the_holstar05:40
ubottuthe_holstar: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help05:40
bazhang /join #winehq the_holstar05:40
learner_] <soreau> hmmm,  how do i restore unity once i killed it?05:42
Bsimsthe_holstar: wineqg but it may be ancient info05:42
dr_willisunity --restart  or unity --replace05:43
soreaulearner_: dont kill unity directly, just replace it with another wm for example, by running metacity --replace05:43
* Bsims grins and I am typing this under urxvt with gnuscreen05:43
learner_is it the same efect if i log on with ubuntu classic?05:43
soreauprobably05:44
learner_ok gonna try that05:44
learner_ill be back05:44
soreauunless compiz is the default05:44
soreauin which case you would still need to run metacity --replace05:44
yagoorpm -q --requires package, equivalent? (i've done the dpkg/apt equivalent but forgot).. anyone?05:45
yagoonmind i found it! :)05:46
SolarisBoydpkg -l 'package'05:46
Dante_dpkg -i05:46
* Bsims grins I got asked about unity, LOL I do 90% of everything on kde running a urxvt terminal running GNUScreen05:46
SolarisBoyummm05:46
Bsimsgnome gives me the hives, if I cant run kde I run wmaker or xfce05:46
SpyderZDoes Ubuntu have a remote desktop feature built in or am I going to have to set up VNC?05:46
SolarisBoydpkg -i is for install no? rpm -q is for query05:46
bazhangBsims, lets stay on topic please05:47
dr_willisSpyderZ:  gnome has vino. which is a vnc server built in05:47
BsimsSpyderZ: depends talking to windows or X server05:47
yagoo(was actually to list packages that need package-- i incorrectly asked as well lol)05:47
learner_how do i message someone in particulkar with out pm?05:47
SolarisBoydpkg -l lists05:47
SpyderZI want to connect Ubuntu to Ubuntu remote desktop05:47
SolarisBoyyou can put an alternate package name after the l or a regex in qoutes05:48
dr_willis!info vin05:48
ubottuPackage vin does not exist in oneiric05:48
dr_willis!info vino05:48
ubottuvino (source: vino): VNC server for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 3.2.0-0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 155 kB, installed size 536 kB05:48
SpyderZthanks05:49
dr_willistheres always ssh and  X forwarding :)05:49
jianfeithat was 8 years05:49
* Bsims nods vnc is well suported r do x forwarding05:49
bobweaverHi there I have a directory  called ~/foo and there are about 50 some directorys under it. I want to take out all the .jpg and move them to a file called ~/Testing  how to go about this ?05:50
dr_willisthen theres freenx :)05:50
dr_willis!nx05:50
ubottuFreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX05:50
jianfeiwanker05:50
jianfeii want 4 months05:50
learner_ok, it did help dudes, thanks!05:50
Bsimsbobweaver: cd /home/name/foo05:50
sinisterstufbobweaver: mv *.jpg ~/Testing05:50
ranjanhi all, how to connect to sametime using empathy?05:50
yagooam looking for the RTFM document to disable NM*= , I want to only use /etc/network/interfaces << I want an official way to do this..05:50
jianfeihow do you know05:50
yagooanyone?05:50
SolarisBoyyagoo: maybe this "apt-cache depends pidgin"05:50
jianfeiwhat if it did05:51
bazhangjianfei, pardon?05:51
ferniafter update to firefox 8 on 11.10 it displays notifications on its own popup on bottom right corner of the screen. it should use the libnotify. right?05:51
Bsimscrap gonna have to use xargs my way give me a bit05:51
bobweaversinisterstuf:  but there are 50 dir under ~/foo05:51
jianfeibazhang, every clever05:51
bazhangjianfei, thats enough05:51
sinisterstufbobweaver, oh, sorry I misread, you can use a forloop05:51
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jianfeibazhang, sorry mate wont happen again05:52
sinisterstufbobweaver: cd ~/foo; for i in `find . | grep -i 'jpg$'`; do; mv $i ~/Testing; done05:53
sinisterstufbobweaver, that should work but maybe try 'cp' or just 'echo' before you try to 'mv' them, if you need an explanation of the commands just ask (maybe in private)05:53
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sinisterstufbobweaver, also, I separated commands with semicolons (;) so they all go on 1 line, usually you would put a newline where the semicolons are05:54
bobweaverI see i is var05:54
sinisterstufyeah, a temporary var, I could have called it something more meaningful like $picture05:54
bobweaverthat is cool05:55
bobweaverwhy the $ after .jpg ?05:55
sinisterstufin a regular expression $ means the end of the string, this will match foo.jpg or foojpg (not right) but won't match jpg2png.sh05:56
jianfeiok who sent her?05:56
sinisterstufhere's some more info on loops: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/loops1.html05:57
sinisterstufthey're really useful05:57
jianfeirarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr05:57
sinisterstufalso if you have spaces in the filenames you might need to escape $i with quotes, as in "$i" (sometimes helps)05:58
jianfeinow im awake05:58
jianfei???05:58
sinisterstufjianfei, you ok?05:58
the_holstarhow do i install wine? apt-get install wine?  will it install everything?05:59
jianfeiSnicksie,05:59
bazhangjianfei, stop now05:59
dr_willisthe apt system shold install all needed  dependencies the_holstar05:59
the_holstarokay05:59
sinisterstufthe_holstar, yes, but you might want to have a look at the different wine packages, some of the update more regularly, sometimes that causes regression with your windows programs06:00
jianfeibazhanng, i am serious.. ive lost a soldier06:00
COoltuXhi all06:00
bazhang!ot | jianfei06:00
ubottujianfei: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!06:00
sinisterstufthe_holstar also might want to install winetricks (very useful)06:00
the_holstarhmm06:00
the_holstaryeah06:00
the_holstarthat's what i was looking for06:01
the_holstarso wine and winetracks right?06:01
the_holstarapt-get install wine winetracks06:01
sinisterstufthat should be fine, yes06:01
dr_willisI thought winetricks got installed along with  wine.06:01
dr_willis!info winetricks06:01
ubottuwinetricks (source: winetricks): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (winetricks). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0+20110629 (oneiric), package size 135 kB, installed size 668 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)06:01
sinisterstufafaik it came seperately, it's just a small script06:01
bluebomberWhere can one ask questions about subnet settings on one's network besides ##networking?06:01
sinisterstufbtw http://wiki.winehq.org/RegressionTesting06:02
jianfeiwell she is dead now06:03
mazda01has anyone used a home folder which was previously used in 10.04 within 11.10?06:05
mazda01not sure how some of the customizations or config files will be handled.06:05
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mazda01not to mention all my customizations within the /etc/ folder06:05
mazda01i'd love to try a dist-upgrade all the way to 11.10 but i have had such bad luck in the past06:06
Toph2mazda01,,, i am06:06
sinisterstufI think for at least *some* programs for configin /etc the installer will present you with an option to overwrite / keep / merge / something06:06
sinisterstufmazda01 ^06:06
mazda01Toph2, oh really? so you did a fresh install of 11.10 and just did custom partioning and pointed your mount point /home/ to your old home partiiton?06:06
mazda01sinisterstuf, i wasn't going to dist-upgrade though06:07
Toph2mazda01,,, yes,, that is what I did,, i tried an upgrade initially which was a disaster06:07
mazda01Toph2, that's been my past experience with dist-upgrades that far06:07
sinisterstufjust going to install the new one over, keeping your /home partition?06:07
mazda01Toph2, i've even had bad results just upgrading 1 version06:08
Toph2mazda01,,, yes, itwasn't the first time for me either06:08
bazhangmazda01, thats not what a dist-upgrade is06:08
mazda01sinisterstuf, i think that would result in best stability of my system don't you?06:08
bazhang!dist-upgrade | mazda0106:08
ubottumazda01: A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. Please see !upgrade for the proper way to upgrade to a new version of Ubuntu.06:08
oratedHow to increase master volume of client system when connected to it via ssh?06:08
mazda01bazhang, ok sorry, i am using old terminolgy06:08
the_holstarmy wine is not responding at all06:08
the_holstar:S06:08
the_holstari installed it a week ago06:09
the_holstarit used to work06:09
sinisterstufmazda01, probably, but in that case, if you're overwriting the / drive all your /etc would be lost unless you back it up, but all your config in ~ would remain exactly intact06:09
the_holstarnow it doesn't get started06:09
mazda01orated, can't you start alsa-mixer using X11 forwarding? ssh -X foo@blah06:09
mazda01orated, once in, you should be able to type in alsa-mixer, i think anyway06:10
mazda01it should open an alsa-mixer window on your remote connection screen.06:10
mazda01sinisterstuf, right, i know all that.06:10
mazda01sinisterstuf, thank you though06:10
admonarelishola06:10
sinisterstuforated, it depends what's playing the music. I think you mean server not client. and if the program has volume control (like mplayer does and mpc does) you can use that, or you can use alsa-mixer for master volume if it's installed and you use alsa06:10
mazda01sinisterstuf, after the fresh install I run diff on all my /etc/ files I backed to see what changed in the newer versions of the pacakges06:11
sinisterstufmazda01, sorry I couldn't be of more help06:11
mazda01sinisterstuf, no, you were helping. sorry if it came off rude06:11
oratedsinisterstuf: Sorry, you are rright. I'm at the client end controlling master volume of server06:11
mazda01alright, take care alll06:12
admonarelisnecesito ayuda para entender la configuracion dee mi servidor IRC06:12
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bazhang!es | admonarelis06:12
ubottuadmonarelis: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.06:12
oratedThanks06:12
admonarelisgracias06:12
COoltuXany application to sync my blackberry with ubuntu????06:15
bazhangbarry-util COoltuX06:15
bazhang!info barry-util | COoltuX06:15
ubottuCOoltuX: barry-util (source: barry): Command line utilities for working with the RIM BlackBerry Handheld. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.15-1ubuntu4 (oneiric), package size 135 kB, installed size 548 kB06:15
COoltuXthank you bazhang ;)06:15
oratedbazhang: With reference to the factoid you pulled for dist-upgrade - How does installation of  new dependencies for packages already installed can affect the system?06:17
roastedQuestion - how do I initialize an iPod on Ubuntu? I got an error on Rhythmbox when it prompted me to do so.06:17
COoltuXroasted | use gtkpod06:17
yeshhey all06:17
yeshcan anyone help me with skype on ubuntu?06:18
roastedCOoltuX, that "initializes" it as fat32?06:18
COoltuXyeap06:18
bazhangorated, could you rephrase please?06:18
roastedCOoltuX, I assume afterward I can use rhythmbox or banshee?06:18
yeshthe mic doesnt seem to work06:18
yeshbuilt in mic that is06:19
COoltuXyesh go to alsamixer and see if it's activated06:19
yeshdo i have to dl alsamixer first?06:21
jeatonnot necessary a ubuntu question, but I formatted an mp3 player the other day really low level, so it erased the software and everything on it, i'm assuming06:22
jeatoni do have another mp3 player identical to the other one, if I were to "dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=/dev/sdb2" would it put everything back on the formated one06:23
bazhangyesh, no need just type alsamixer in terminal06:23
jeatonassuming of course the formatted one is sdb206:24
oratedbazhang: The dist-upgrade factoid you pulled from ubottu says -  A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed - How can that affect the system over normal upgrade?06:25
yeshbazhang: i typed it in and it opened up a whole bunch of menus06:25
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yeshI see the mic thing over there but whats an indication that its on/off?06:25
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bakemalcan I get help about XChat-GNOME here?06:29
bakemalmost instructions I find online are for plain XChat06:30
bakemaland -GNOME seems very different06:30
bakemalhow can I set aliases here?06:31
bakemalthere seems to be nothing in the Edit->Preferences06:31
yeshskype still cant seem to pick up my mic06:32
oratedbakemal: #xchat06:36
bakemalohthanks06:36
bakemalI love you all, but I must leave you now06:36
D3RGPS31my cursor keeps jumping (almost) to the bottom left of my screen, always at the same position, at random moments; even when not moved06:36
bakemalforever06:36
D3RGPS31it also appears there at startup; my xorg config hasn't changed in a while, and this started happening after i booted the machine up :l06:36
orated!06:37
ActionParsnipD3RGPS31: does the system have a make and model? (Bet its a sony vaio)06:37
D3RGPS31ActionParsnip: the system is custom :l06:38
ActionParsnipD3RGPS31: ah, so not a laptop :-)06:38
D3RGPS31it was fine until i booted it up yesterday; could it be hardware?06:38
ActionParsnipD3RGPS31: possible, got another mouse to test?06:39
D3RGPS31my only other mouse has a 1 metre cord :l damn my lazyness06:39
ActionParsnipD3RGPS31: also, pull the mouse out, wait a few seconds then reattach.06:40
RotatorHow to install debian?06:40
ActionParsnipRotator: debian is offtopic here. Try in #debian06:40
MultbrelchRotator, go to Debian pages and read their further instructions06:41
rodhashGuys, how can I check what's the module for my dvd drive?06:42
rodhash[    2.150176] sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray06:42
RotatorNo one tell me in #debian06:42
ActionParsnipRotator: then wait. This channel is ubuntu support only06:42
D3RGPS31ActionParsnip: seems replugging it in worked; thank you :306:43
SquarismWhat happened to the "deb" command in 11.10?06:43
ActionParsnipD3RGPS31: cool06:43
rodhashGuys, any idea?06:43
RotatorI know, thank you06:43
MultbrelchRotator, see here: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/06:43
Rotatorthank you06:44
ActionParsniprodhash: optical drives don't need extra co06:44
ActionParsnipConfig06:44
rodhashActionParsnip, So it doesn't use a module?06:44
ActionParsniprodhash: yes but its inbuilt in the kernel itself06:45
D3RGPS31I unplugged my mouse, but it's moving (slightly) on its own; oh gawd06:45
D3RGPS31(it being the cursor)06:46
ActionParsnipSquarism: not used it. What does it do? Maybe there is an equivalent06:46
rodhashThe actually issue is: cdrecord hung and I can't kill it because it's in uninterrupble state... Any idea how to eject my cd?06:46
SquarismActionParsnip, i think it adds ppa sources?06:46
ActionParsniprodhash: sudo eject /dev/sr0    maybe06:46
rodhashI tried.. but didnt work :(06:47
skypentAnyone had experience with installing the amazon-mp3 program for ubuntu 11.10?06:47
ActionParsnipSquarism: 'deb' for a source is more than likely a line to be added to sources.list06:47
ActionParsnipSquarism: is it:  deb http://something oneiric main06:48
rodhashSo.. maybe just a reboot will eject my cd.. :(06:48
ActionParsnipSquarism: or similar06:48
ActionParsniprodhash: is the process dead?06:49
rodhashActionParsnip, No, it's in uninterrupble sleep06:49
ActionParsniprodhash: what did my command output? Simply saying 'didn't work' helps nobody06:50
D3RGPS31my cursor is moving without a mouse :v06:50
ActionParsniprodhash: kill the parent process then :-)06:50
rodhashActionParsnip, the shell frozen when I typed that06:50
ActionParsnipD3RGPS31: do you use a mousemat?06:51
D3RGPS31ActionParsnip: no06:51
ActionParsnipD3RGPS31: my mouse at work likes to wander unless I use a mouse06:51
ActionParsnipMat sometimes06:52
D3RGPS31:l06:52
D3RGPS31i have no input device other than my keyboard06:52
ActionParsnipD3RGPS31: try a book or similar06:52
yeshanyone had any probs getting skype to work on ubuntu?06:53
D3RGPS31ActionParsnip: what?06:53
ActionParsnipD3RGPS31: why is the keyboard of interest?06:53
D3RGPS31ActionParsnip: i removed the mouse, but the cursor is moving on its own06:53
D3RGPS31ActionParsnip: it's the only input device i'm using right now, yet the cursor is moving on its own :l06:53
ActionParsnipD3RGPS31: yes, you said and I saw06:53
ActionParsnipD3RGPS31: try a book as a mousemat06:54
D3RGPS31ActionParsnip: ... i am not using a mouse right now, and the cursor is moving, a mousemat is irrelevant :l06:54
D3RGPS31there is no mouse connected to my machine, and the cursor is moving06:54
dr_willislaptop?06:55
sinisterstufthat happens to me too on my laptop, even when it had windows, I find putting it down on a flat surface with the screen not pushed too far back helps :D06:55
D3RGPS31dr_willis: no; as i said, there is -no- other input device other than my keyboard06:55
sinisterstufdo you have a ghost in your machine?06:56
D3RGPS31:l06:56
dr_willistry differnt disrots. and live cd's see if its consistantly doing the movement across differnt os's06:58
aruncn1who -d gave list of dead processes. What does this mean? i see some 250 dead processes on my system. what can i do?07:00
dr_willisaruncn1:  i see 9 here.07:01
dr_williswhats your uptime?07:01
dr_willis uptime07:01
dr_willis 21:01:33 up 11 days,  2:00,  4 users,  load average: 0.05, 0.03, 0.0507:01
aruncn101:01:55 up 78 days, 29 min, 51 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.0007:02
skypentI can't seem to get amazon's mp3 installer to work on 11.10?07:02
dr_willisHmm.. a lot of users.. but no load. :)07:02
skypentsorry that was meant to be a statement.  The question is, can anyone assist with that?07:02
aruncn1dr_willis: hmm.. this is a high configuration server07:03
dr_willismy box is just my own little server.  ssh and samba and thats about it.07:03
aruncn1What are these dead processes? Do they have any significance? any action required?07:04
dr_willisNo idea07:04
dr_willisnever really heard of it being an issue07:04
aruncn1ok07:05
wolfman3k5how can I get PHP FPM enabled in Ubuntu 10.0407:05
alexanderliuanybody here?07:05
dr_willis1500+ people here. :) and botx07:05
alexanderliuyes.I am new here. the very first time to use ubuntu for me07:06
alexanderliusry wolf i dont know07:06
alexanderliudo you know how to install typing software in linux? i am a chinese but i dont know how to type characters. -)07:07
dr_willisjust googling aruncn1  and i see...07:07
dr_willisZombies are dead processes.  You cannot kill the dead.  All processes eventually die, and when they do they become zombies.  They consume almost no resources, which is to be expected because they are dead!  The reason for zombies is so the zombie's parent (process) can retrieve the zombie's exit status and resource usage statistics.  The parent signals the operating system that it no longer needs the07:07
dr_williszombie by using one of the wait() system calls.07:07
FloodBot1dr_willis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.07:07
dr_willis!ch07:07
ubottuDas Schweizer Team finden sie unter #ubuntu-ch, deutschsprachigen Support bekommen sie aber in #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de. Aus regionalen Gründen ist im Schweizer Channel nur Englisch erlaubt. Geben sie einfach /join #ubuntu-at ein! Danke für ihr Verständnis.07:07
dr_willisHmm thats not the right one07:07
dr_willis!zn07:07
alexanderliuhey.07:08
dr_willisTheres some linux Chinese channel. but im not sure which one it is.07:08
rumpe1!zh07:08
ubottu如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw07:08
alexanderliuokay. thank you.07:08
alexanderliumy god. we got a chinese dude07:09
aruncn1dr_willis: ty07:09
alexanderliuhey. okay i will try07:09
dr_willisor someone that rembered the chinease factoid.07:09
KPoh9hi, I have a question.  I setup a static IP for my machine, but how do I ssh into it? It refuses the port when I try from another computer07:19
aruncn1kpoh9:are you able to ping your machine from another computer? are you able to telnet to your machine on ssh port?07:21
LemanHTCHey07:23
diverdudeh07:23
CodeZombieI'm trying to add a postfix install via apt-get to an unattended bootstrap script for my servers. However, postfix requires some human interaction to select the type of install. Is there a way to specify this, so I don't have to do it every time?07:24
CarlFKCodeZombie: I think you want debconf-set-selections - kinda like this: https://github.com/CarlFK/veyepar/blob/master/setup/pxe/install.sh#L2407:26
CodeZombieah, yes thanks CarlFK07:26
comoI have a problem: .profile doesn't execute when I log into the graphical session (gdm), but it works find from tty.  what could be wrong?07:28
comoany idea?07:30
aruncn1como: you can run gnome-session-properties and check if  "user folder update" and "gsettings data conversion" are checked07:34
K-Richhey all07:35
michaelahi im trying to get the xvi codec to work on ubuntu 11.1007:35
gstreamer236How hard is it to port a fedora driver to ubuntu?07:37
michaelawhen i go on this website http://www.watch-movies.net.in/ it says " you are missing xvid plugin to play vidios"07:38
yagoogstreamer236, across similar linux/x86.. should be easy07:38
yagoogstreamer236, pretty much make install07:39
michaelai installed the ubuntu restricted extras07:39
aruncn1michaela: tried installing smplayer?07:39
michaelaok give me a sec07:39
yagooaruncn1, isnt ~/.xsession still used in 11.10?07:39
yagooaruncn1, isnt or ~/.xinitrc still used in 11.10?07:40
aruncn1yagoo: don't think so07:40
michaelaand when i install smplayer how do i open and play the video07:41
CarlFKCodeZombie: debconf-utils has debconf-get-selections wich will show what options were in effect once someting is installed... so you can run that on a box that has postgresql installed and see what settings are avlible07:42
CodeZombieCarlFK: thanks again sir07:43
michaelaok i installed smplayer now what07:43
CadetXikonia, HEY YOU SON OF A BITCH07:44
CadetXsup?07:44
pangolin!language | CadetX07:44
ubottuCadetX: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.07:44
CadetXpangolin, we are friends07:44
CadetXhe is cool with that07:44
pangolinthe rules here are not cool with it.07:45
bazhangCadetX, no cursing07:45
CadetXits not cursing07:45
CadetXif all of your mothers are bitches07:45
CadetX:D :D07:45
gstreamer236yagoo, it has the same kernel version07:48
gstreamer236so its plausable?07:48
gstreamer236they have* the same major kernel version07:48
yagoogstreamer236, what module is this?07:49
gstreamer236um, whats module?07:50
gstreamer236googleing it, if you dont mind waiting07:50
yagoogstreamer236, if you dont know what a module is.. dont bother compiling anything07:50
gstreamer236um.. sorry?07:51
gstreamer236well i compiled stuff before.. if that means anything07:51
yagoogstreamer236, still waiting.. you sure are slo!!07:52
yagoogstreamer236, you dont know the source of the tarball?07:52
gstreamer236you mean the driver source?07:54
gstreamer236we build it with our own software07:55
yagoogstreamer236, what software?07:55
yagoogstreamer236, surprises me you keep insisting what is a module..07:56
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gstreamer236module is the chunk of code loaded into the kernel to control a device?07:57
yagoogstreamer236, how old are you?07:57
gstreamer2362107:58
yagoogstreamer236, you should get some help compiling that module/driver code for your software whatever it is..07:58
michaelaim sorry but can someone privately message me about this stupid xvid thing07:58
nvzgstreamer236: that would be called a driver, a module is a pluggable piece of code that is dynamically loaded.. a driver can be a module, but not necessarily07:58
* yagoo thinks gstreamer236 may be compiling thats already available for ubuntu07:58
yagoogstreamer236, you're not 21..07:59
michaelai tried smplayer and that dident work07:59
gstreamer236why not..07:59
yagoogstreamer236, you sound more like 12.. sorry.. but you should just ask what you're trying to do..07:59
nvzgstreamer236: what is it that you are trying to accomplish?07:59
gstreamer236i been using windows all my life.. does that justify it?07:59
nvzheh07:59
gstreamer236im an intern. Im suppose to port intel graphic driver for meego/fedora to ubuntu07:59
michaelaxvid dosent work with linux08:00
gstreamer236i been (unsuccessfully) working on it for a few weeks now..08:01
nvzgstreamer236: uh.. intel gfx drivers should already be in the kernel, its well supported..08:01
gstreamer236yea, but the native driver does support hardware accelerated video encoding/decoding08:02
nvzgstreamer236: what exactly is the problem you are having?08:02
gstreamer236._. i wish i knew exactly08:03
nvzgstreamer236: well you need to give me some idea of where your problem is cause to me compiling a module is straight forward.. obtain kernel source, module source, patch, compile.. simple.. even easier with module-assistant08:03
gstreamer236i kinda just need some pro to tell me its possible08:04
gstreamer236before i go into depression08:04
nvzuh yeah.. compiling a module is very possible and not a very complicated process typically.. if you have a basic understanding of how to compile on linux08:04
nvzactually if compiling as a pluggable module only the kernel headers are required..08:05
yagoonvz, he also said he was an intern.. I'm very shocked because he asks a couple times what a "module" is..08:05
gstreamer236._. im sorry.08:05
yagooand he says he's been on this a couple of weeks.08:06
yagoopff.. he's not 21..08:06
nvzyagoo: IT interns are generally not very knowledgable.. heh.. hell I work projects all the time with people who aren't certified and have no clue what theyre doing08:06
yagoonvz, lol08:06
gstreamer236a 12 year old intern would be more talented..08:07
nvzyagoo: imo you're just bored and unable to help due to lack of information and basically just trolling him.. so.. either we get to the bottom of the actual issue or just walk away08:07
alexanderliuwhat for08:07
yagoonvz, it's a lost case. Just rephrasing this.. no point wasting anyone's time.08:07
nvzfirst gotta know what the issue is.. so far all I got is that he's an intern out of his league new to linux, and wants to compile a driver for a graphics card to enable hardware accelerated encoding/decoding and is having some probably entirely trivially simple issue with it08:08
gstreamer236^ that08:09
nvzpersonally if I were to take the ignorant road, I'd say you're wasting your time and should tell the idiots you work for to get a damn nvidia card if graphics are key.. heh08:09
yagoonvz, he won't tell you what he's compiling.. only that the source is from fedora.. and that can be even "tailored" for a fedora-edited kernel sourcetree08:10
nvzbut thats personal opinion, as I like nvidia the best, its been the easiest all around for me in the past.. and my machines with intel graphics while natively supported are well.. crap..08:10
nvzyagoo: sounds like a mongolian clusterfuck to me08:10
nvzoh right.. they dont like swear words here..08:10
yagoonvz, don't waste your time.. I already asked him the source, and exactly what he wants to compile. I got null answers.08:10
nvzoh well08:10
gstreamer236the source is packaged into tar on my laptop, using a software made by intel08:11
nvzyeah well as I said before, either you productively make him understand how to do things like get help on freenode and such or you ignore it.. anything more is just trolling08:11
yagoonvz, i think he's jogging around the prospect of possibility of intertwining distro module codes.. he's jogging around with ideas and not really compiling anything08:12
nvzgstreamer236: so if intel made this code, why isn't in already in the linux source tree?08:12
yagoonvz, are you an idiot? wtf you keep saying i'm trolling?08:12
yagoopff08:12
michaelaare you guys wasting all our time in arguing because there are other people that need help08:12
yagoonvz, stop trolling yourself dummy08:12
nvzI see no other questions on my screen08:13
nvzI just seen someone asking about the linux kernel which I know quite a bit about..08:13
gstreamer236ubuntu isnt supported08:13
gstreamer236is that an acceptable answer?08:13
nvzgstreamer236: that doesn't matter.. the linux kernel is not tied to any distro08:14
CarlFKCodeZombie: does this look like what you are looking for? debconf-get-selections | grep postgresql => postgresql-commonpostgresql-common/obsolete-majorerror08:14
CodeZombieCarlFK: wow, you must be bored :)08:15
CodeZombieactually, I was looking for something for postfix, and I got it working08:15
CodeZombiethanks though =)08:15
nvzgstreamer236: for that matter any distro is not necessarily tied to linux as the kernel specifically either.. Debian for example works on freebsd, hurd, and people are experimenting with win3208:15
CarlFKCodeZombie: oh right.. that postthing :)08:15
michaelahow can i get xvid to work with ubuntu08:16
nvzgstreamer236: as for graphics drivers there are generally two parts to them, the kernel side, and the X11 side.. you've only mentioned the kernel which is the far easier part to deal with08:17
nvzmichaela: what do you mean by that?08:17
gmzljnvz: you mean the mesa project?08:17
gstreamer236i think michaela needs xvid codec and a player08:17
nvzprobably but didnt say that08:17
nvzxvid is vague08:18
nvzfrom my experience totem is very annoying in ubuntu..08:18
gmzljmichaelni: gstreamer ffmpeg plugin08:19
nvzhe left already08:19
gstreamer236would hardware encode/decode usually be on kernel part or x11?08:19
gstreamer236owh08:19
gmzljgstreamer236: neither08:19
gstreamer236owh..08:19
gmzljuserspace library08:19
gmzljwill an x11 or opengl or whatever backend08:20
gmzljon one side08:20
gmzljand access to the hardware through mesa on the other08:20
gmzljor libvpau or whatever08:20
nvzgmzlj: you obviously have knowledge where I do not. heh. I only know about compiling the kernel and modules, I dont know much at all about X11 or specifics of graphics framework08:21
gstreamer236mplayer is suppose to use vaapi for encode/decode08:21
michaelanuz are you still there08:21
gmzljnvz: its a disgusting mess :S08:21
nvzmichaela: yessir, you need to play a video file encoded using xvid?08:21
gmzljgstreamer236: yeah, it can08:21
gstreamer236i been installing different versions but non seems to work08:21
theishiI am having trouble installing the google talk plugin... I am getting an error about unmet dependencies, even though the listed files are installed. After the failed install I cannot update or install new programs until I uninstalled the supposably failed installation... i pastebined my full error log here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/749045/  Any help would be greatly appreciated08:21
gstreamer236vainfo doesnt work properly08:22
nvztheishi: try sudo apt-get -f install08:22
sskniranjanis there any way to assign keyboard shortcut to any app so that we can launch it directly from the desktop08:22
nvztheishi: if that don't work then I gotta read your paste.. heh.. just assuming I know what happened there08:22
gmzljsskniranjan: yes08:23
theishinvz: I tried that last time I had this problem, but let me give it another shot08:23
nvzsskniranjan: sure is, I'm not terribly familiar with unity, but I know how to do it in classic interface08:23
gmzljsskniranjan: look at the keyboard section of system settings08:23
theishinvz: i am installing via dpkg though btw08:23
michaelanuz when i go to this site "http://www.watch-movies.net.in/" with firefox it does not work it dosent play videos08:23
gmzljsskniranjan: custom command support is in there08:23
nvzmichaela: ah.. see now thats the specifics I needed.. you're trying to watch something on firefox.08:24
sskniranjanqmzlj: how to do tha i am a newbie08:24
michaelayes08:24
gmzljsskniranjan: do you know where system settings is?08:25
gmzljsskniranjan: click the keyboard icon08:25
michaelaand it says i need a xvid plugin08:25
nvzmichaela: I see that, reproducing your problem here..08:25
gmzljmichaela: gstreamer ffmpeg08:25
gmzljmichaela: don't know the exact package name08:25
theishinvz: it installed ok, but I am in the same spot as before.. it doesn't work and I cannot install new programs as I have a program with unmet dependencies08:25
michaelai have gstreamer ffmpg it dident help08:26
d3f4c3dhey free people ! i cant update my new install of 9.10 for some odd reason - when run "sudo apt-get update" i get "some index files failed to update, they have been ignored blahlba" i cant contact http:/ubuntu.security08:26
gmzljtheishi: there is a ppa for google talk plugin08:26
theishigmzlj: whats a ppa?08:27
auronandaced3f4c3d: 9.10 is no longer supported08:27
d3f4c3dmaybe somethign to do with reprository list...08:27
gmzljtheishi: google it, idk08:27
gmzljtheishi: but there is one08:27
auronandace!ppa | theishi08:27
ubottutheishi: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa08:27
d3f4c3dauronandace, i really need to get it running... please ?08:27
crunchyHi, I'm currently having problems with my jabber.ccc.de account. The login fails. Anyone else having such problems?08:27
iceroot!eol | d3f4c3d08:27
ubottud3f4c3d: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades08:27
auronandaced3f4c3d: can't you use a more recent release?08:27
icerootd3f4c3d: last link for new repo adresses08:27
d3f4c3dno, i must stay with 9.1008:28
gstreamer236you know.. i think my real problem is vaapi not working08:28
d3f4c3diceroot, will that repo address work with my 9.10 ?08:28
icerootd3f4c3d: yes08:28
d3f4c3diceroot, how to use it,08:28
d3f4c3dthanks08:28
icerootd3f4c3d: the 9.10 repos are moved08:28
d3f4c3diceroot, where do i inject it ?:)08:28
icerootd3f4c3d: and the last link shows the new adresses08:28
icerootd3f4c3d: /etc/apt/sources.list08:28
michaelagmzlj and nuz are you still there08:28
d3f4c3dokay iceroot i try to play with it brb08:29
gmzljmichaela: nope08:29
gmzlj:D08:29
nvztheishi: dpkg -r google-talkplugin_current_i386.deb08:29
michaelanuz are you still there08:30
nvztheishi: that will set your package manager back to straight, but you need to figure out why its not fiding the v4l which should be available in ubuntu perhaps you need to enable more sources08:30
nvztheishi: search for the package it complains about in your package cache08:30
Benkinoobyhi, i am invoking a script (using kupfer, an application launcher like gnome-do) wich opens an urxvt terminal and starts mplayer within that terminal. If I press ctrl+c to stop the player, the terminal also gets closed. i want: pressing ctrl+c stops the mplayer but leaves the terminal open. any hints/suggestions08:31
nvzmichaela: yes, this site looks sketchy to me.. and I have not resolved the issue.. as gmzlj pointed out typically an ffmpeg plugin would solve this.. doesnt seem to08:31
gmzljBenkinooby: patch urxvt08:32
d3f4c3diceroot, something happening !!!! U tha maaan !!!!08:32
gmzljBenkinooby: that's just how it works08:32
d3f4c3dgettting my shits weeee08:32
gmzljBenkinooby: or write a wrapper script and run that instead08:33
gmzljBenkinooby: something like: mplayer $@; exec $SHELL08:33
gmzljmight do the trick08:33
JovaroI updated to 11.10 but now I have some language issues. I use dutch, swedish and english (in that order) and now I have a mix of all three. Most in english, firefox in dutch, dates are in english and some random things are in swedish. What went wrong there?08:34
d3f4c3diceroot, d00d if u run "apt-get upgrade" will i mess up my version ?08:34
nvzmichaela: if I had to guess after tryng two browsers with several plugins I'd say this site isn't even legit and trying to trick windows users into both paying for something and downloading so-called plugins that are actually viruses08:34
nvzmichaela: I could however suggest to you many other sites and means to suit your actual needs08:34
Benkinoobygmzlj, wrapper would be using the script to open a terminal, and let that terminal execute an other script?08:34
JovaroOh I mixed up the order... most is in dutch but firefox and dates are in english08:34
icerootd3f4c3d: no08:35
owner_Ok, I got on here and needed help with file permissions and the guy in here said the only way to fix it was to re-install08:35
gmzljBenkinooby: have urxvt launch the wrapper script around mplayer rather than mplayer directly08:35
owner_so I reinstalled08:35
d3f4c3diceroot, what is upgrade for ? update not final ?08:35
owner_Now I need to chmod the files on my backup drive08:35
owner_all of them in a directory08:35
owner_sudo chmod u=rwx /media/39077186-bc90-477a-9309-d217923fd117/JayJardee/owner/* -R08:36
icerootd3f4c3d: only installing security-updates08:36
d3f4c3diceroot, heres why i need to be carefull - im running dynamips with nic's (10+ bubuntu broke their 802.1q features) and i need that08:36
gmzljBenkinooby: something like this would do the trick: http://codepad.org/m48KBCi708:36
owner_But it's not changing the files in the directory08:36
d3f4c3doh nice08:36
d3f4c3diceroot, thanks08:36
maumhello I would like to install ffmpeg but the message said that  Depends: libavcodec53 but it is not going to be installed08:36
maum Depends: libavdevice53 but it is not going to be installed08:36
maum Depends: libavfilter2 but it is not going to be installed08:36
maum Depends: libavformat53 but it is not going to be installed .... how can I install this?08:36
FloodBot1maum: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.08:36
icerootd3f4c3d: also see "man apt-get" and read "upgrade" and "dist-upgrade"08:36
owner_how do I chmod all the files in a directory and all sub directories08:37
d3f4c3dye its tought on the system that has no mans installed :D08:37
michaelanuz id like that08:37
d3f4c3di think recursive with folder right ?08:37
rodhashowner_, chmod -R (recursive)08:37
owner_rodhash i tried that08:37
kanhiyahello08:38
maumhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/749057/08:38
rodhashwhat happened?08:38
kanhiyaeveryone08:38
maumhello08:38
nvzmichaela: /msg ?08:38
owner_sudo chmod u=rwx /home/owner/* -R rodhash08:38
owner_I also tried chmod -R u=rwx /bla/bla*08:38
Benkinoobygmzlj, i do not understand that script... what's that $@ ?08:38
owner_and chmod u=rwx -R /bla/bla*08:39
kanhiyaanybody have faced problem in ubuntu 11.10 in blueooth08:39
kanhiyaand solved it08:39
maumcan someone help me?08:39
kanhiyai got permisssion denied error 13 while connecting any device08:39
maumhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/749057/08:39
z3r0c007any problem maum08:39
maumz3r0c007: http://paste.ubuntu.com/749057/08:40
rodhashowner_, Ok, but what was the error?08:40
owner_rodhash the only error is that it doesn't change the permissions of the files08:40
sveinseHi. Are there protobuf 2.3.* available for oneiric anywhere (backport, PPA, etc.)?08:41
maumI think synaptic server is not good or.. something trouble..08:41
z3r0c007maum: one  moment i'll check08:41
kanhiyamaum: Use ubuntu software center & install ffmpeg from there08:41
maumkanhiya: I couldn't by it.08:41
kanhiyamaum: it will auto resolve dependenices08:41
JovaroI updated to 11.10 but now I have some language issues. I use dutch, swedish and english (in that order) and now I have a mix of all three. Most in dutch, firefox in english, dates are in english and some random things are in swedish. What went wrong there?08:42
maumno it doesn't08:42
Benkinoobygmzlj, also, your script starts the mplayer in the background, so i can not control it (adjusting volume and stuff)08:42
maumkanhiya: I am using ubuntu 11.0408:42
K-Richokay boys and girls, i'm off to watch Paranormal Activity 3 and cuddle with my dog.08:42
maumkanhiya: ubuntu software center doesn't fix the dependencies...08:42
Benkinoobygmzlj, thank you for your input and time08:43
gmzljBenkinooby: it shouldn't. but i never verified it worked either08:43
gmzljits just an idea08:43
Benkinoobygmzlj, never mind... but could you explain me the $@ ?08:43
gstreamer236here is what i got with vainfo08:43
gstreamer236http://paste.ubuntu.com/749058/08:43
gmzljBenkinooby: all of ARGV08:43
kanhiyamaum: go to the recovery option while booting  &  than try from there, to update software08:43
kanhiyamaum: this one worked for me sometimes08:44
Benkinoobygmzlj, ah, so i would have to enter what i want to give to mplayer as options?08:44
gmzljyeah08:44
gmzlji can't remember if it needs to be quoted or not08:44
gmzljas i said, a starting place08:44
dsirijushey, anyone having issues with trackpoint or trackstyk?08:44
Benkinoobygmzlj, thought so... was just testing it. no it works without quotes08:45
maumkanhiya: i don't know how and I am curious if I can fix this from recovery option08:45
dsirijusit kind locks for a second every few seconds if i move it too fast08:45
dsirijusand, if i see it correctly, it's recognized as ps2 mouse08:46
kanhiyaback to my question, anybody solved bluetooth problem in ubuntu 11.10, unable to connect to device after successful setup of device & is there any way to install older package of bluetooth in Ubuntu 11.1008:46
kanhiyamaum: tell me if there is any message that synaptic packages are broken08:47
kanhiyamaum: also required repositry  is there in software sources08:48
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maumkanhya : could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade08:48
KamZouHello, would like to know which user is running the cron.daily crontab please ?08:49
maumthe following packages have unresolvavle dependencies.08:49
kanhiyamost of time, Synaptic mark required changes automatically08:49
nvzdsirijus: if it were me, I'd examine the X log08:49
maummake sure that all required repositories are added and enabled in the preferences08:49
maumffmpeg:08:49
nvzdsirijus: on a side note, helps to consolidate your question to one line cause its hard to get at what you're asking when the info spans 3 lines between conversation08:49
maumdepends: libavcodec53 but it is not going to be installed08:49
maumdepends: libavdevice53, libavfilter2, libavformat53 but it is not going to be installed08:50
maum...08:50
kanhiyashow me a screenshot of your software sources08:50
maumok08:50
kanhiyamaum: Use imagebin08:50
maum??08:51
nvzheh08:51
nvzmaum: paste.debian.net select file to upload /etc/apt/sources.list08:51
nvzsame thing, different approach08:51
kanhiyanvz :)08:51
e01hello, i am upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10 successful but now i had a little problem, qt apps and in my case skype looks ugly, in 11.04 skype follows the look of theme, now it look native qt app and some tooltips and text are unreadable because colors seems similar08:52
e01is there solution of this problem or it's just in my machine08:52
kanhiyae01: Just roll back again :(08:52
somsipe01: try Skype, Options, General, Choose Style08:52
kanhiyae01: many issues with ubuntu 11.10 except looks,08:53
kanhiyasomsip: This one can fix08:53
nvzyeah I recommend to everyone I offer support to, stay away from 11.10 wait it out for next release.. otherwise I no longer offer support. heh08:53
e01somsip, it doesn't help, i try and with qtconfig but result is the same ;(08:54
nvzI spent about 2hrs testing 11.10 and ran into more issues than I seen in the last 5 years on debian or ubuntu08:54
somsipe01: ok - worth a shot08:54
e01nvz, me too, i think i back to 11.0408:54
kanhiyanvz: Performance matters not only looks, right or wrong08:55
SpyderZHey guys, just did an install on a old laptop and the VGA extended monitor that I have connected isn't getting recognized in the Display Settings. Any ideas on how to get this working?08:55
d3f4c3dwhere can i check 802.1q support on nic ? or check loaded modules in buntu ?08:55
nvzpersonally I'm still fairly new to ubuntu but this 6mo time based release schedule seems insane to me. There is no way you can integrate major version changes of huge desktop environments and such on a time frame.. it has to be thoroughly tested and debugged and not released until ready08:55
nvzI blame all the issues I observed on the Gnome 3 migration that was nowhere near ready to be rolled out as something anyone could even dream to be remotely stable08:56
kanhiyanvz: they should release stable versions, whether it take 1 year , instead of 6 month08:57
e01ubuntu guys make mistake while go on gnome3 in 11.10, i think this had to be done in 12.0408:57
elkynvz, while i understand you're frustrated, the people here aren't the ones who make the decisions you're kvetching about, and will not feel much like helping if they are going to be listening to a stream of complaints.08:57
kanhiyai think Mandriva has taken this approach08:57
gmzljnvz: oh gnome 3 is stable on other distors08:57
nvzkanhiya: yeah well one could argue thats what debian does, this is ubuntu.. and I'd have to agree even as a long time (12 year) debian user08:57
gmzljnvz: ubuntu is at fault with gnome 308:57
gmzljthey patch things too much for unity08:57
gmzljubuntu isn't a distro i'd recommend for an excellent gnome 3 experience08:58
nvzgmzlj: so? the issue is not gnome 3, its that with a package system like debian/ubuntu uses you cannot integrate a MAJOR VERSION of a software suite that is over 500 packages on a time frame at all much less a 6mo timeframe..08:58
tollandwhat text editors support multipl rows of tabs, preferably at the bottom of the edit window?08:58
nvzgmzlj: too many things changed, not enough time to even FIND all the bugs much less fix them08:59
gmzljnvz: how did other distros did a better job?08:59
gmzlj*do08:59
nvzgmzlj: Idk cause I only use debian and ubuntu and so far debian hasn't made a release with it08:59
northwoodsIs there a way to create an intallation disk from already installed ubuntu 11.1008:59
gmzljnvz: its in testing or unstable or both, can't remember09:00
nvzgmzlj: and some distros are commercial and can pay for rigorous testing.. this distro I know from personal experience is hurt because of a need to register to file bugs.. I didnt file any of the bugs I found cause it was too much time for me to get into the process.09:00
northwoodsnvz, ?09:01
gmzljnvz: seriously though, not to bash unity here, but its unity that introduces bugs into gnome here. if it was just gnome 3, it would be better09:01
nvzgranted that does probably filter out a lot of b.s. on your BTS09:01
northwoodsIs there a way to create an intallation disk from already installed ubuntu 11.1009:01
gmzljnvz: im talking fedora, debian, and arch09:01
nvzgmzlj: testing isn't a release.. its testing.. heh09:01
kanhiyaI faced that there is no option to create new document in right click, bluetooth not working on any pc that i have tried, no way to navigate windows from panel, how to add applet like force quit to panel & much more , i have faced in ubuntu 11.1009:01
gmzljnvz: right, but its not commercial either09:02
nvzgmzlj: thats my issue here.. people think testing in debian and know to expect problems.. ubuntu on the other hand has the upgrade manager flashing in people who have no clue's face upgrade to 11.10 making them think thats safe.. heh09:02
jaccohany1 running ubuntu on their mac (mini)?09:03
nvzgmzlj: so my issue isn't just with the time based release schedule but with the release process entirely.. people who really dont know crap use ubuntu, and the distro pushes new releases hard on people who dont realize its not as well tested and debugged as a stable debian release09:03
jaccohi had to reinstall ubuntu and i cant get sound working.. never was an issues on the previous install09:03
gmzljnvz: ah politics :S09:03
somsipnvz, gmzlj could this go to #ubuntu-offtopic please?09:03
nvzgmzlj: you or I know better, but the majority of users don't09:03
gmzljsomsip: we're about done anyways, sorry09:03
gmzljnvz: yeah09:04
e01ubuntu 11.10 is beta for 12.04 :D09:04
froes hi guys. i am having some trouble on X11 forwarding  on openssh. has anyone been able to make it work with lxde for example ? is that possible ?09:04
froeslogout09:04
gmzljfroes: ssh X11 forwarding doesn't forward the desktop09:04
gmzljjust applications09:04
gmzljit won't forward lxde09:04
mmvfroes: i've done it, with xnest09:05
Benkinoobyfroes, it only forwards windows of applications09:05
gmzljfroes: you might be looking for x11vnc if you want to forward lxde across the network09:05
nvzfroes: yeah you may want to try a different approach for what you're trying to do.. like ssh tunneling a VNC or RDP or something09:05
Benkinoobyfroes, if you start a graphical application via X forwarded ssh, you'll see the new window#09:05
kanhiyacommunity, tell me is there any way to revert to bluetooth  packages of ubuntu 11.04 in ubuntu 11.1009:06
gmzljkanhiya: manually download them and install them09:07
nvzkanhiya: you could save yourself a headache and just reinstall 11.04 and not touch shiny new software until you know it works.. because if this is the only problem you've seen, I am fairly certain it wont be the last09:07
froesgmzlj, x11vnc would forward xdm+lxde for example ?09:07
mmvkanhiya: not in any way that's supported09:07
Snicksiejaccoh, you might want to edit your sound settings with 'alsamixer' in the terminal... my macbook has ubuntu with working sound on it :)09:07
gmzljfroes: your whole x11 session, no matter what de/wm09:07
gmzljfroes: so yes09:08
kanhiyagmzlj: from where?09:08
nvzfroes: for the display manager to be forwarded you may want something like XDCMP09:08
kanhiyagmzlj: for bluetooth09:08
SpyderZLooking at my graphics adapter and it says Unknown…anyways to find a driver for my system that will allow my second extended display to work?09:08
gstreamer236i have  vaapi and mplayer installed. mplayer -vo doesnt list vaapi as an option.09:08
nvzSpyderZ: how is this 2nd display attached? both displays on the same card?09:09
gmzljkanhiya: the 11.04 repos. but you're probably looking for a world of pain should there happen to be version conflicts between dependancies09:09
SpyderZnvz: It's a laptop with a VGA LCD Monitor hooked up.09:09
roghi folks, i'm trying to lower the large power usage of my thinkpad x220 since upgrading to 11.10, and i've found this possible fix: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1859781&page=209:09
nvzSpyderZ: oh, ok.. well you want to toy with xrandr or something similar then09:09
rogmy question is: how do i change the kernel boot parameters? i've looked at /etc/default/grub but it's not clear to me that this is the right place.09:09
mmvrog: hmm, been thinking of buying one of those, how noisy are the fans? i5?09:10
nvzSpyderZ: generally something like xrandr --output VGA -auto or something.. I forget right now.. its 4am here.. heh see the manpage09:10
rogmmv: i5, yes. very quiet fan09:10
mmvrog: any bad comments?09:10
rogmmv: on natty i was getting 8h or more on battery09:10
kanhiyagmzlj: I think i should revert back to ubuntu 11.0409:10
gmzljgstreamer236: vdpau09:11
rogmmv: on oneiric i'm only getting 2-3h on battery :-(09:11
SpyderZnvz: I'm all new to Ubuntu, it's day 1 for me. I'll Google it I guess.09:11
kanhiyagmzlj: Will same problem appear in Kubuntu 11.10 also :)09:11
rogmmv: my wife complains that the keyboard light dazzles her :-)09:11
gmzljkanhiya: try finding a ppa for bluetooth first09:11
gmzljkanhiya: something newer might fix your problems09:11
rogmmv: otherwise it's great09:11
nvzSpyderZ: ah, well typically you can enable it from the monitor prefs gui09:12
mmvrog: presumably one can turn that light off?09:12
rogmmv: oh yes, when i'm using it in my lap, the touchpad curves around a little bit and sometimes my clothes will activate it09:12
kanhiyagmzlj: Thanks09:12
rogmmv: yeah. it's mostly off09:12
rogmmv: but when it's on, it could be a little more directional09:12
rogmmv: it's a nice system, and i *was* joyous about the battery life.09:13
rogmmv: hence my quest to regain that!09:13
gstreamer236gmzlj, isnt vdpau for nvidia?09:13
rogso, does anyone know how to change kernel boot params?09:13
gmzljgstreamer236: thats all mplayer supports irrc09:13
nvzrog: in /etc/default/grub09:14
maumkanhiya: http://ompldr.org/vYmcxNA09:14
gmzljgstreamer236: there's a mplayer-vaapi project09:14
nvzrog: first you change the kernel params in there then run update-grub like the file says09:14
gmzljgstreamer236: i assume its a matter of time before it gets merged in09:14
rognvz: so if i add this line to /etc/default/grub, it should work?: i915.i915_enable_rc6=109:15
rogi.e. each env var in that file is a kernel param?09:15
rogor is there a specific env var for kernel params?09:15
nvzrog: no.. you add kernel params to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"09:15
nvzrog: you'd put that in the quotes with the quiet splash, then run update-grub09:16
roglike this? GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash 'i915.i915_enable_rc6=1'"09:16
rogor double quotes?09:16
nvzrog: assuming that is a valid kernel parameter.. I'd take out the single quotes though it probably wont like that09:17
rognvz: ah, i misunderstood what you meant by "in quotes"09:17
nvzrog: heh, no worries.. inside the double quotes is the string to append to the linux command line by default its a space separated list of arguments09:18
nvzthis ticking sound through my speakers is enough to drive me insane.. heh09:19
rognvz: i bet that might even be documented somewhere. all the web pages assume you know this stuff, but it wasn't obvious to me!09:19
nvzrog: wasn't to me either.. but thats because I been using linux for 12 years or so, and the new grub does things VERY differently09:19
nvzrog: I'm starting to get used to the way programs split up configuration now though..09:20
nvzrog: I had the same issue migrating from apache 1.3 to apache 2 ... everone is migrating towards partial config files that are strewn out across the system.. heh09:21
Anomie211What is the default path for gedit in Ubuntu 11.10? Trying to make filezilla use it as it's default editor but I need to specify the file path09:21
rognvz: i find it kinda funny that the boot time system is a fully blown shell script... or is that shell script just generating a config file to be used at boot time?09:21
deej1976Anomie211: which gedit09:22
nvzrog: are you referring to /etc/default/grub?09:22
geirhaAnomie211: You should just be able to type in gedit, without a path.09:22
rognvz: yeah09:22
nvzrog: thats read by update-grub, at the point which grub actually uses that info it's not even aware the filesystem that file resides on even exists09:22
rognvz: ah, ok, i wondered how that worked09:23
nvzrog: yeah if you don't update-grub then nothing changes09:23
Anomie211geirha: Type it in where? I'm using the 'Select default editor' tool in Filezilla, no where to type.09:24
deej1976/usr/bin/gedit09:24
Anomie211deej1976: I think thats it, ta09:24
deej1976Anomie211: If you need to find a path to a command use "which" i.e. which gedit09:25
geirhaAnomie211: Ah ok. I've never used Filezilla, but usually there's a box where you can just type in the command, next to the file selection.09:25
rognvz: thanks for the info. even if i had found that option in the documentation (it is there) i'd probably have used GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX rather than GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT09:25
rogwhich would be wrong09:25
Anomie211deej1976: ah, handy. Thanks :)09:25
maumI have some problem with installing ffmpeg . anyone can recognize this /??/ http://ompldr.org/vYmcxNA09:26
geirhaAnomie211: Or the more portable alternative to which; type. E.g.  type gedit09:26
nvzrog: well it annoys me any time things change that I already knew how to do.. but this way is a lot better once you get used to it.. before you had one big config file and had to change command lines for each kernel basically09:26
deej1976geirha: That comes back "type: Command not found."09:27
maumplease help me09:27
rognvz: i'm a bit surprised there aren't some idiots' guides easily findable out there on the web. (i did look).09:27
JovaroI updated to 11.10 but now I have some language issues. I use dutch, swedish and english (in that order) and now I have a mix of all three. Most in dutch, firefox in english, dates are in english and some random things are in swedish. What went wrong there?09:27
deej1976maum: Have you enabled any other repo?09:27
deej1976!grub209:27
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)09:27
nvzrog: the problem with the old way of configuring things was the times moving beyond slackware style config everything by hand, to automagic auto-configuration.. which clashes with manual config.. so now the automagic stuff does what it does, and when you want to manually hack you make smaller config files that are read in09:28
geirhadeej1976: Ah, well it's a builtin in bourne compatible shells.09:28
luca_biDear friends could explain to me the role of the keyword $this09:28
luca_bi?09:28
deej1976geirha: That explains it, default shell here tcsh09:28
maumdeej1976: what do you mean?09:29
deej1976maum: Have you enable/install any other repository/ppa's09:29
maumdeej1976: yes but I failed.. there is a lot more dependencies...09:29
maumdeej1976: I don't know how to install ffmpeg on ubuntu 11.0409:30
nvzrog: a simple example in deb based distros is how there is the /etc/apt/sources.list for your package sources, then there is the sources.list.d/ directory where individual source files can be appended. Things like getdeb and playdeb make use of this, we managed before it worked that way, but it was far more complicated.. now official auto type stuff goes in the config and manual 3rd party stuff can just drop their own configs in the *.d/ dir09:30
theadminmaum: sudo apt-get install ffmpeg...09:30
maumtheadmin: I did but the error occured09:30
maumtheadmin: like this http://ompldr.org/vYmcxNA09:31
rognvz: yeah, that makes sense. not obvious when coming to it from scratch though - quite a few layers of abstraction going on.09:31
theadminmaum: Odd... Are you sure you didn't modify the repositories?09:31
A_JWill a PCIE 2.1 gfx card work in a PCIe 3.0 motherboard?09:32
maumtheadmin: yes09:32
nvzA_J: thats more of a question for ##hardware09:32
* A_J goes there09:32
maumtheadmin: how can I fix this?09:33
stimpieWhen I boot my laptop (asus n53sv) with an external monitor attached  I get some console lines at the external monitor but never reach lightdm. Any one knows what this could be?09:33
nvzA_J: technically I should know that but I can't say with certainty cause I dont work on many new systems and I got certified many years ago.. heh09:33
deej1976maum: "sudo apt-get install ffmpeg | pastebinit"09:34
SpyderZnvz: What do I do when Xandr is not a found command?09:34
nvzSpyderZ: its xrandr and just typing that should show you what displays you have09:35
A_Jty nvz09:35
maumdeej1976: I cannot install astebinit09:35
nvzSpyderZ: typically the vga output is called VGA and can be enabled by saying xrandr --output VGA --auto09:35
SpyderZnvz: Thanks!09:36
A[D]minSMorning , Quick question ... How i can kill only this session  ----> tcp        0      0 10.229.180.41:36692     64.4.61.31:1863         CLOSE_WAIT  2779/wish8.509:36
nvzSpyderZ: I'm at a loss for how to do that graphically due to ubuntu's crappy unity interface I have little interest in learning to use and it being so much different than plain gnome.. heh.. but the command line tricks are the same on any distro.. ;)09:36
mmvA[D]minS: you could kill 277909:36
deej1976maum: what does "sudo apt-get install -f" do?09:37
SpyderZnvz: I tried the command and it says it could not find the VGA and is ignoring it.09:38
SpyderZnvz: I guess I'm at the dead end of this machine.09:38
nvzA[D]minS: yeah I'd 2nd the killing the process because that connection has already been asked to close and is in a wait state.. so the app is probably misbehaving09:38
cellardoorAfter my upgrade to 11.10 my speakers just emit a constant whine. Known issue?09:38
nvzSpyderZ: well thats why I said run xrandr first with no arguments, to see what the displays are called, on my netbook for example its VGA1 for some reason09:38
SpyderZok09:39
maumdeej1976: ok09:39
nvzSpyderZ: typically one is called LVDS and one VGA on a notebook.. but it varies09:39
maumdeej1976: sudo apt-get install -f didn't work09:39
maumthe message said09:40
A[D]minSmmv: we don't want to kill the application , yes the application misbehaving and do weird stuff, however it could be a workaround to kill these sessions , any idea?09:40
maumE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)09:40
maumE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?09:40
SpyderZnvz: Thanks, I think this one is coming down to a driver issue, that's why the VGA is not showing up at all in the list.09:40
deej1976maum: Another process has the package database open.09:40
A[D]minSP.S i'm not talking about wish8.5   , it was just an example09:40
nvzSpyderZ: well also some notebooks are strange about that and have a fn key to enable it, sometimes it is easiest to just boot with the display connected and have it enabled that way09:40
mmvA[D]minS: nah,09:41
nvzSpyderZ: there may also be an issue with the driver though.. perhaps you could get further help if you check lspci to figure out what the graphics adapter is, and find out which driver X is using09:41
ActionParsnipmaum: are updates running or do you have software centre open?09:41
SpyderZnvz: The main LCD screen is cracked so I disabled it and left the CRT only option on. Ubuntu boots and it displays on the external monitor at first, but then turns off as it hits the login screen.09:42
maumI am checking now09:42
ActionParsnip!aptfix | maum if not then use the following09:42
ubottumaum if not then use the following: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »09:42
maumE: Broken packages09:43
maumhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/749092/09:43
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llutz!info cutter  | A[D]minS09:43
ubottuA[D]minS: cutter (source: cutter): disconnect routed IP connections. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.03-2 (oneiric), package size 10 kB, installed size 64 kB09:43
A[D]minSthx llutz09:44
A[D]minSi'll check it09:44
nvzSpyderZ: ah.. well that significantly changes things.. heh. I'm no X guru by any means.. but I think if you better explain the problem again using those details someone else might be of better assitance. I personally need to run across the street to the store.. its going on 5am, been up all night and need a lil something.. heh09:44
nvzSpyderZ: I could figure it out, but would have to look up some things after I get back.. which will only be a few min09:44
SpyderZnvz: Thanks for the help, much appreciated.09:44
SpyderZI'll try again tomorrow when I'm more awake.09:45
SpyderZHave a good one!09:45
maumdeej1976, ActionParsnip ubottu : I did sudo apt-get install ffmpeg | pastebinit and terminal said E: Broken packages09:45
maumhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/749092/09:45
ranjanHi all, which is the best development platform for mapreduce. is it windows or linux?09:47
theadminranjan: Linux is the best development platform for anything that *can* be developed on Linux09:48
canterermapreduce?09:48
cantererwhat?09:48
deej1976maum: It's possible that you have a conflict with another ppa that you've added. Also which Ubuntu version are you running?09:50
maumdeej1976: I am using ubuntu 11.04 version09:50
maumppa?09:50
deej1976!ppa09:51
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa09:51
ranjantheadmin, great ! :)09:51
maumdeej1976: what should I do?09:51
ranjantheadmin, we are going to setup a mapreduce lab, and planning to use ubuntu as the OS09:52
ranjantheadmin, how to push policies like the windows group policy in ubuntu.?09:53
theadminranjan: Sorry, I'm not too into Windows, what on earth is that?09:54
deej1976maum: load Synaptic Package Manager, Settings, Repositories, Other Software09:55
ranjantheadmin, i  mean centrally manage all the desktops with same configurations. imposing certian restrictions, pushing our companies wallpapers every time when it changes etc09:55
deej1976maum: If you can capture the list and post online09:55
theadminranjan: Hm, well... cron for the last one, and just set the general configuration for one user and then copy it to /etc/skel for the first one.09:55
ranjantheadmin, have you heard about Puppet, CFEngine, Chef etc?09:56
stimpieranjan, checkout landscape09:56
ranjanstimpie, is landscape opensource?09:56
stimpieranjan, no09:56
theadminranjan: I heard about Chef allright, but not those other 2, but I haven't used any of those.09:57
ranjantheadmin, ok09:57
ranjanstimpie, is there any other things like landscape which if opensource?09:57
stimpieranjan, CFEngine is opensource but takes more time to setup09:57
maumdeej1976: http://ompldr.org/vYmcxcg09:58
deej1976maum: Try unticking debs.astraw.com ..., www.debian-multimedia.org09:59
maumdeej1976: how can I do?09:59
rogfor the record, that fix doesn't seem to have improved my power consumption10:00
deej1976maum: with a mounse and clikcing the tick next to debs.astraw.com, www.debian-multimedia.org10:00
deej1976maum: That should untick, disable those repositories10:01
poonamhi all10:01
i3luewith 160gb to work with what is a good partition setup on seperate root swap and home partitions10:01
deej1976maum: Then in a terminal run "sudo apt-get update ; apt-get install ffmpeg"10:01
poonamI am using ubuntu 9.10 ie karmic10:01
Gentoo64i3lue: i cant say10:01
deej1976maum: Then in a terminal run "sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install ffmpeg"10:01
poonamI am using ubuntu 9.10 ie karmic, but not able to install packages, can any one help10:02
Gentoo64i3lue: some poeple /home is gigabytes, mines 52MB10:02
poonamIgn http://in.archive.ubuntu.com karmic-updates Release                                                                                                                 Err http://security.ubuntu.com karmic-security/main Packages                                                                                                              404  Not Found10:02
poonamIgn http://in.archive.ubuntu.com karmic-updates Releas  Err http://security.ubuntu.com karmic-security/main Packages 404  Not Found10:03
poonamdeej1976: can u plz help me10:03
poonamdeej1976: I am using ubuntu 9.10 ie karmic, but not able to install packages10:04
poonamIgn http://in.archive.ubuntu.com karmic-updates Releas  Err http://security.ubuntu.com karmic-security/main Packages 404  Not Found10:04
pangolin!eolupgrade | poonam10:04
pangolin!eol | poonam10:04
ubottupoonam: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades10:04
deej1976!pastebin |pangolin:10:04
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cuthberthi guys10:04
pangolindeej1976: ?10:05
cuthbertsorrry am using ubuntu10:05
pangolinoh, hehe I see10:05
maumdeej1976: http://paste.ubuntu.com/749104/10:05
poonampangolin: thanks10:05
deej1976pangolin: Sorry was for poonam, and the multiline paste10:05
cuthbertam looking for platform that i will be able to run java programs10:05
deej1976maum: It's installed10:06
maumdeej1976: thank you very much10:06
cuthbertam looking for platform that i will be able to run java programs10:07
maumdeej1976: how could you recognize unnessary repository10:07
poonamubottu: thanks10:07
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)10:07
atlasairhow can i make aliases for the terminal? The stuff i've found on google isn't working..10:08
deej1976maum: dapper is an old release of ubuntu. debian-mm sid is old debian, probably should be there, if that hadn't worked I would have for for the ppa ones.10:09
deej1976shouldn't*#10:10
maumdeej1976: how can I use ppa?10:10
deej1976!launchpad10:10
ubottuLaunchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/10:10
maumdeej1976: just download the package from the site?10:11
antnashHi guys. Where can I check why my pc just crashed?10:11
stimpieantnash, depends on the type of crash but /var/log/syslog or /var/log/Xorg.0.log might tell you something10:12
deej1976maum: Nope, read how to add the ppa, each package on launchpad has a repository10:12
cuthbertam looking for platform that i will be able to run java programs10:12
twocarloim trying to install nvidia driver, as i install the driver it ask me to stop x server, how to stop  x server by the way?10:12
cuthbertam looking for platform that i will be able to run java programs10:13
stimpieantnash, use the logviewer10:13
antnashcheers stimpie. It had been up for about 3 minutes, and I was just doing a git pull then *beep!* and it was resettings.10:13
maumdeej1976: I see10:13
antnashresetting10:13
ne2kI have moved to using a USB sound card as my main sound device, rather than the onboard one. however, whenever I hibernate the computer and reawaken it, it switches the output back to the internal one and mutes the USB one. how can I make the USB one get reactivated automatically when the computer wakes up?10:13
antnashit's just done it again10:13
antnashit beeped at me and then reset10:13
stimpiecuthbert, that will be almost anything. try a nokia 331010:13
ne2knatty, btw10:13
stevecamis the ubuntu experience becoming more buggy over the last 2 years10:14
RaTTuS|BIGno10:14
mmvstevecam: it started off pretty buggy...10:14
RaTTuS|BIGLTS is fine10:15
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reisiit'd seem that postinst configure script for logcheck 1.3.7ubuntu2 is broken, "No such file or directory" on ubuntu server 10.04; any ideas on how to override this? happened during upgrade and cant really think of any reason why it should be doing anything10:15
stimpiestevecam,  I dont think buggy is the right word but their have been some major gui changes which caused missing features10:15
RaTTuS|BIGOSMONDE - you should not log onto irc as root really10:15
cuthbertstimpie , sorry am now using computer  and running ubuntu 11.10 so am looking for an application so that  i can write java programss10:15
ne2kcuthbert: gedit?10:16
deej1976!info eclipse10:16
ubottueclipse (source: eclipse): Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.7.0-0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 16 kB, installed size 128 kB10:16
nvzcuthbert: eclipse as I understand is popular10:16
OSMONDEHOW DID I MANAGE THAT?10:16
OSMONDEoops caps10:16
stimpiestimpie, aha thats something different, try eclipse, netbeans or intellij idea10:16
stevecamearlier, I was able to use rhythmbox and have very little or none problems,now there is banshee, which seems to hang more often and there is unity that seems to hang as well, chosen over gnomes new shell10:16
nvzpersonally I gave up on Java after reading Sam's Learn Java 2 in 24 one hour lessons. learned both that I never wanna program java and that sams books are horrible.. heh10:17
nvzstevecam: did you upgrade to a new release?10:17
stevecamthis current install is a fresh install10:17
ne2knvz: java has its place, but it's not the best language around10:17
ActionParsnipstevecam: install rhythmnbox if you like it....10:18
stevecami have upgraded in the past but i don't like the experience10:18
ne2knvz: portability is the biggest thing going for it10:18
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nvzne2k: oh I recognise its portability and usefulness, I just despise it.. heh10:18
ActionParsnipnvz: it has good memory clean up too :)10:19
nvzstevecam: so in other words you've made no changes to the installed packages?10:19
stevecamActionParsnip, my point is, i had less problems using my ubuntu system as is earlier, and now im finding after each new release its becoming more unusable10:20
nvzstevecam: 11.10 is horrible, thats not news10:20
ActionParsnipstevecam: do you mean you don't like unity?10:20
nvzstevecam: nobody said you had to upgrade10:20
ActionParsnipnvz: I think you mean unity, you can use KDE in 11.10 and it runs the same as 11.0410:20
stevecami am just giving feedback, should i stop?10:20
nvzActionParsnip: no I mean 11.10.. heh.. first thing I did was install gnome-panel and everything to get gnome on it, and it was all badly broken10:21
nvzActionParsnip: and clearly this user, like myself prefers GTK to QT10:21
ne2knvz: at least it doesn't support the vile "feature" that is multiple inheritance10:21
ActionParsnipnvz: I use lxde, not had an issue10:21
deej1976!notunity | nvz:10:22
ubottunvz:: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic10:22
osmondeok so the other day i used clonezilla for the first time---made an image/wiped the partition,reformatted and restored my os and stuff from the image..All in an attempt to "wipe freespace" after having used photo wreck and finding sensitive data easily recoverd...is there an easier way?10:22
ActionParsnipstevecam: if you dislike Unity with Gnome, there are other desktops you can use and your Gnome apps will run just fine, or you can use Gnome shell too10:22
nvzne2k: heh.. I'm not much of a programmer.. I like simple programming like python, bash..etc10:22
nvzdeej1976: I'm aware of that, doesnt change the fact that its horrible broken10:22
stevecamActionParsnip, im looking for general usability, what would you recommend10:23
ne2kI release-upgraded from maverick to natty, and it's resulted in a slightly messed up system (usable, but not great). I was contemplating doing a fresh install at some point. ought I to do a fresh install of natty, or of oneiric, or just leave it? I use the classic gnome desktop, btw10:23
osmondemy woman uses cccleaner on her partition and i cant pull too much off after shes used it..shes on win7 ntfs10:23
ActionParsnipstevecam: xfce looks and smells like Gnome210:24
ActionParsniposmonde: foremost or scalpel may help10:24
osmondeis there an option for just free space..?10:25
nvz.. so would not calling her "your woman", and being specific about "pull too much off"10:25
stevecamwhen i want to do tricky stuff in linux i use a LFS build that i compile, i dont mind xfce but i like a bit of eyecandy, i have a modern PC and if im only doing general things i dont need to worry about cpu usage10:25
osmondeim a bit noobish but have become clever10:25
nvzosmonde: can you cleverly explain what it is you want to do?10:26
osmondewipe "freespace" on ext410:26
osmondei am also working on changing my habits as far as deleting things10:27
nvzoh.. heh.. paranoid much?10:27
osmondenot so much..but my finances are important10:27
osmondeincidently i am a bit paranoid..but that doesnt mean they all arnt out to get me..lol10:28
osadid*0*10:28
nvzosmonde: look into secure-delete package10:28
osmondei have the secure delete pacage10:29
ActionParsniposmonde: if you want to wipe the empty space to all 0s, you can use bleachbit10:29
deej1976!info secure-delete10:29
ubottusecure-delete (source: secure-delete): tools to wipe files, free disk space, swap and memory. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-5 (oneiric), package size 65 kB, installed size 188 kB10:29
rodhashHello guys, why when I restart the gdm with "service gdm stop/start" it brings a different window login (oneiric)?? At first it's a beautiful login window, but after running the restart cmd, appears something very simple...10:29
rodhashany idea?10:29
osmondemy only problem is that i want to leave all my files and stuff in place10:30
osmondeand just sweep up under it all10:30
osmondeas i said I have chaged how i delete things..i use bleach bit to shred files on a weekly basis10:31
osmondehowever..when i look at pics on face book nd stuff it makes its way into my fs somehow10:31
gappiehi10:32
nvzanything you look at online typically gets cached10:32
rodhashAnyone?? Shouldn't appear the same login window?10:32
nvzrodhash: depends on what you changed10:32
osmondecan i take off this caching function?10:32
nvzheh10:32
rodhashnvz, I didn't change anything... I just made a stop / start10:32
rodhashbut if I restart the ubuntu... the beautiful login window appears again10:33
gappiei need some assistance please: my ubuntu boots to console mode. How do I run a shell script on startup in console mode?10:33
nvzosmonde: even using something like chromium's incognito mode I believe its still cached temporarily.. not sure though as I'm not that paranoid10:33
n97087gappie, before or after login?10:34
gappiei am hoping to hve auto login on startup.is that even possible?10:34
nvzrodhash: idk if it were me I'd look at the gdm log10:34
osmondetruth be told my old lady gets in my biz..since shes become techi with the photo rec program..I've heard "whos this" bout a thousand times..and i need her out my biz..10:34
nvzosmonde: hence why my first comment to your original question was you could stop calling her "your woman" ... "old lady" isn't much better10:35
Anomie211On Windows, when you hold the scroll wheel down and move the mouse down lower the page will scroll itself, anyway to do this in Ubuntu? Can't see any sort of options in the 'Mouse & Touchpad' bit10:35
osmondelol10:35
nvzrarely can technology solve a relationship problem if ever10:35
osmondeshes 8910:35
osmondenot really...I mean..my wonderful wife10:35
gappien97087 : can you auto login on console mode boot?10:36
osmondeNo the relation ship i use nortan antibitch on...its reaally expensive and comes bundled with red lobster10:36
gappiethis is for an autonomous system10:36
nvzheh10:36
gmzljgappie: yes10:36
gappiegmzlj : how? a link would help please10:37
gmzljgappie: google :P10:37
ActionParsnip!google10:37
gmzljgappie: edit /etc/event.d/ttyX10:37
ubottuWhile Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.10:37
n97087gappie, I do not know off hand10:37
gappiewhat I want is boot to console mode, auto login, run shell script auto shutdown after x hours. possible?10:38
gmzljgappie: add --autologin <user> to the command line10:38
n97087gappie, yes use cron10:38
osmondeI kid...I kid...anywho    SECURE DELETE i will be looking into..thx10:38
gmzljgappie: for that, you shouldn't be doing it like that10:38
ActionParsnipgappie: you can use cron to run stuff at boot, or add the reference in /etc/rc.local     You shouldn't have to log in, you can run stuff in the background10:38
gappien97087 : cron for?10:38
gmzljgappie: just start your command via upstart10:39
gmzljgappie: and thats it10:39
gappiegmzlj : upstart?10:39
gmzljgappie: how ubuntu starts services10:39
gappiegmzlj : so do i edit something for upstart to work?10:40
gmzljgappie: whats the command you want to run?10:40
gmzljgappie: read some documentation, there's plenty of it a google away10:40
gappiewell i want to run a shell script with some code10:40
gmzljgappie: when?10:40
gappieon startup10:40
gmzljand why shutdown afterwords?10:40
gappiebefore battery of system flat10:41
gappiefor save shutdown10:41
gmzljgappie: rc.local then10:41
dr_willisgappie:  and how often are you wanting to do this?10:41
gappieonce in  week or so10:41
gappieit is a raodside system10:41
gmzljgappie: how does this computer get turned on? im not sure i understand the utility of this10:42
gappiei tried clean debian, but i know ubuntu10:42
dr_willisgappie:  you want to manually controll it? you could set up rc.local to do it..10:42
gappiethe user will install the device on a pole, flip a switch, and the system starts working for 3 hours or so10:43
dr_willisrc.local then could do it..10:43
gappieok best place to start reading on rc.local?10:43
gmzljgoogle10:44
gmzljbut its just a bash script10:44
gappiei google myself to death, so then I camehere10:44
oCeangmzlj: don'10:44
oCeangmzlj: don't suggest google here, thanks10:44
dr_willisyea theres not a lot to read on rc.local10:44
gmzljoCean: i told him is was a bash script10:45
dr_willisits a bash script ran as root at the end of the boot process.10:45
gappieok so I add my code in rc.local10:45
gmzljif he doesn't know bash he's going to have to do some reading10:45
dr_willisYou sould like you are totally not needing any thing but a custome boot up.10:45
gappieto launch my shell script10:45
gappiei installed the full ubuntu desktop version and changed it to boot to console mode. Is there a better way of getting a console boot system?10:47
gmzljserver install10:48
gmzljminimal install10:48
gmzljcan't remember what its called10:48
Firedogtext mode install10:48
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timo_bhello everybody10:48
Firedoghello timo_b10:48
timo_bI'm using 11.10 (amd64). Default install with unity10:49
timo_bit feels a bit lazy10:49
darshani am using "find / -name en" command to find a file ,but it is searching me and giving an directory..tell me the perfect command to find a file with name en10:49
timo_bI'm running 10.10 on my Lenovo S10-3 and it's fast as hell10:49
FiredogIs there anywhere that the karmic apt archives are stored in their last state? or have they been deleted from the internet?10:50
deej1976"find / -name en -type f"10:50
gmzljdarshan: -type f10:50
timo_bI already switched from compiz to metacity, but it's still slow10:50
gmzljdarshan: man find has everything you need in there10:50
darshangmzlj-wat r u saying plz explain it10:51
dr_willisthe name of the file is just 'en' ? thats it?10:52
gmzljdarshan: man find10:52
gmzljdarshan: man is the manual command10:53
gmzljdarshan: just saying all this stuff is documented10:53
deej1976darshan: "find / -name en -type f"10:54
Firedogdarshan, you can use grep if you are searching for a partial filename and you want an easy solution10:54
gmzljdarshan: yes10:54
gmzljdarshan: if en is part of the filename use *en*10:54
gmzljotherwise it matches exactly en10:54
mmv'*en*', even10:54
FiredogIs there anywhere that the karmic apt archives are stored in their last state? or have they been deleted from the internet?10:55
Firedogmost mirrors giving 404 now10:56
gmzljFiredog: maybe theres a working mirror?10:56
FiredogI am hoping so, I will then mirror it10:56
gmzljFiredog: script it10:56
Firedoghmm ... thinks10:57
gmzljFiredog: or google for exact matches on package filenames10:57
deej1976!oldrelease10:57
gmzljFiredog: curl is your friend here10:57
Firedogdeej1976 :)10:58
deej1976Firedog: Theres docs for old system, can't remember search crit10:59
Firedoggmzlj I can see what you are suggesting with curl and I could hammer something together that will do the deed on all known mirrors but deej1976 is suggesting an official old version thing10:59
deej1976!eol |Firedog11:00
ubottuFiredog: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades11:00
gmzljwell if you want to see if any mirror still has old packages11:00
gmzljjust try to grab something from each one until you find one thats working11:00
gmzljtheir has to be an out-of-date mirror somewhere11:01
FiredogI know, I knew it was coming but I forgot that that meant the repositories would disappear and leave me with no software. Updates are not important, just the archive.11:01
gmzljFiredog: make sure you grab everything you need if you do find a mirror then :P11:02
FiredogI agree gmzlj ther probably will be one that has not updated :P11:02
zaffytry here http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/11:02
deej1976Firedog: http://tinyurl.com/c5cq4mv11:03
maxjfdf11:03
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Firedog@zaffy, got-it11:03
skilzGnome-osd doesnt work in fluxbox?11:04
Richar_MAHello everyone,It seems that freenode.net has been blocked in China.11:04
skilzIm after something to show volume status and caps lock status ect11:04
gmzljRichar_MA: suprise suprise11:05
skilzwith nice green osd11:05
linexphi all11:05
linexphi all11:05
linexpregards11:05
MechanisMhello ppl anyone have problems with skype? seems like after microsoft bought skype they want to crash linux systems with linux version of skype/11:05
Firedogzaffy and deej1976: oldreleases are originals, not the latest mirrors.11:05
gmzljMechanisM: works for me11:05
deej1976Firedog: You should probably look at upgrading. 9.10 is no longer supported11:06
MechanisMgmzlj skype causing a lot of dependency problems in my ubuntu11:06
zaffyFiredog, even http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/   ?11:06
gmzljMechanisM: thats a different problem11:06
gappiegmzlj : what about auto shutdown after x hours? is that also possible? someother placelike rc.local I can add code?11:07
MechanisManyone knows why ubuntu.com/testing doesn't offers anymore testing versions?11:07
gmzljgappie: yeah, but kinda silly11:08
gmzljgappie: what if someone is using the machine?11:08
jwtiyari have both windows and ubuntu , now i want to extend my ubuntu storage , how ?11:08
gmzljgappie: but cron would be what your looking for11:08
giommy25hello11:08
gappieno one will. it is specific to requirements of project11:08
gappieok thanks11:09
gappieso i google just cron11:09
deej1976MechanisM: Try asking in #ubuntu-testing11:09
MechanisMdeej it's #ubuntu+1 I think11:09
MechanisMtesting ubuntu channel11:10
deej1976https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO sayes: Find help on #ubuntu-testing11:10
jayesh_unity desktop seems to be bit hard  to use.alt + F2 is not that easy.no panel widgets11:11
jwtiyari have both windows and ubuntu , now i want to extend my ubuntu storage , how ?11:11
jayesh_is there anything I miss on this?11:11
deej1976MechanisM: Are you after this: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/11:11
MechanisMohh thanxx11:12
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michaelaadoes anyone use paltalk11:15
Richar_MAfailed to connect irc.freenode.net using pidgin.11:15
gmzljRichar_MA: that's your problem right there: pidgin for irc11:16
gmzlj:P11:16
kandinskihi, is there a way to change between unity and unity 2d without closing all programs and logging out?11:16
kandinski(and vice-versa)11:16
FiredogOK, I found a mirror that still has karmic on it. Now because of the pool / dist layout I need to figure out a way of mirroring only the karmic bit11:18
ExxonRichar_MA, try changing the connection port no by default its 6667, try 800111:20
edakiriWhat are install options to use the Debian (a.k.a. "alternative") installer for the current release?11:22
Sidewinder1Appears as though the floodbots are going ape-hockey, again. :-(11:23
gmzljFiredog: rsync11:24
FiredogI think I need to filter out the channel mechanics just to see what real people are saying11:24
Firedoggmzlj: rsync, maybe. i have found apt-mirror and investigating11:25
edakiriFiredog, what do you mean 'mechanics'?11:25
gmzljFiredog: what irc client? weechat?11:25
gmzljor xchat?11:25
gmzlji can give you a hand11:26
Sidewinder1Firedog, Nah, this should be temporary, at least 'til one of the Ops fixes the prob..11:26
gmzljedakiri: hide join/part messages11:26
edakirigmzlj, xchat can filter those?  how?11:26
aascensaos11:26
Firedogit is xchat11:26
llutzedakiri: rightclick on channel-tab, settings11:26
edakiriFiredog, that is the job of the IRC client.11:26
gmzljcan't remember offhand: google "xchat confrence mode" and it should be first hit11:26
gmzljyou should hit the faq11:27
edakirithat was it.11:27
Exxonbye11:27
amitprakashHow do I pull a bzr repo from launchpad?11:27
Firedoggot it, conference mode on: thanks guys, and gals11:28
gmzljfor weechat google "smart filter"11:28
gmzljFiredog: np11:28
_Rod2kGuys I need some serious help here...I got GeoVision to work out on Linux but I messed up with it and I now realize I just deleted some video files from the Geovision app...is there a way to restore those deleted files?11:29
_Rod2kLook I know this is not the place to address this issue but I REALLY need someone to point me to the right direction...I need Anyone who knows something about geovision, please?11:30
gmzlj_Rod2k: install it?11:31
szal_Rod2k: if I get you correctly, GeoVision is not even a Linux app, so it's certainly not a *buntu app, and we don't do non-linux app support11:31
_Rod2kGuys it's not about whether it runs on which OS, I managed to make it to run using WINE but I accidentally removed some video files.11:31
gmzlj_Rod2k: reinstall it11:32
edakiriamitprakash, bazaar has its own channel, as does launchpad.  "bzr branch lp:projectname" --IIRC11:32
_Rod2kgmzlj Already tried it11:32
gmzlj_Rod2k: you can't undelete11:32
Sidewinder1_Rod2k, Also there's the #winehq channel.11:34
slartibartfast*11:36
Firedogapt-mirror indicates that just for amd64 archive 21.7GB of files will be downloaded :)11:37
Firedogno it's 27.111:37
gmzljhey back11:38
gmzljsorry11:38
deej1976Firedog: Do you need all of the mirror?11:38
gmzlj_Rod2k: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec11:38
gmzljsorry, accidently killed my client11:38
Firedogdeej1976: what I need is for upgrading to the latest version not to mess up my computer then I might do it more often11:38
lywhello11:39
lywhello world11:39
Firedogubuntu upgrade mess around with config files change the way the desktop looks and generally meck about with your system so you spend the next few months putting it back bit by bit11:40
Sidewinder1lyw, Mornin'.11:40
deej1976Firedog: You will probably be ok upto and including 11.0411:40
Sidewinder1!pm > lyw11:41
ubottulyw, please see my private message11:41
FiredogI also happen to get on well with GNOME 2 and compiz and last time from jaunty really messed this up and also changed automount policy, sound driver (pulse!), samba config, NFS exports. Its a real pain11:41
Richard_MAI'm coming back.11:42
FiredogI can run the latest versions in virtualbox, but they suck in comparison. Unity is horrible. Its like system 7 or something11:43
deej1976Firedog: Have you looked at xubuntu/lubuntu ?11:44
gmzljFiredog: gnome3 maybe?11:45
Firedogyes, better, but gnome 2 is what I like. I think Mint and also Suse are hanging on to gnome2 suse is rpm though (eugh!)11:45
Firedoggnome3 is not good11:46
gmzljsuse has gnome 3, iirc11:46
deej1976Firedog: Mint is using a fork called Mate11:46
gmzljthey may just still over gnome 211:46
MonkeyDustMATE is unstable11:46
gmzljdeej1976: no, they offer both11:46
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gmzljits not just unstable, its dead end too11:46
Firedogthere is, of course, debian :)11:46
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gmzljone guy replacing a whole team?11:46
gmzljFiredog: gnome 3 is inevitable there11:47
gmzljits in unstable already11:47
FiredogI think by trying to improve gnome integration with gnome3 they actually made it less configurable11:48
Richard_MA1ok, I can join freenode.net now.11:48
Firedog:)11:48
gmzljFiredog: who? gnome or ubuntu?11:48
szalgmzlj: afaics, openSUSE 12.1 comes w/ exactly 2 packages for Gnome 211:48
Firedoggnome11:48
gmzljwhat do you mean integration?11:49
gmzljgnome 3 is a step back, for sure, but thats because its a fresh start and still a work in progress11:49
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Firedogbetween components of gnome11:49
gmzljcompare gnome 2.30 with 2.011:49
gmzljFiredog: nah, i love it :P11:49
gmzljnew gedit and chat apps look increadible11:50
gmzljand boxes looks sick11:50
Firedogthing is, I have a system which works the way I want it to. It would be nice to use more up-to-date software too in parts. Its a real dilemma11:50
gmzljFiredog: sounds like you should try a rolling release11:50
Firedoglike debian?11:51
szalsince when is Debian rolling-release?11:51
gmzljarchlinux?11:51
gmzljszal: debian testing/unstable almost is11:51
Firedogszal, ok, but testing is always.. yah you said it already11:51
gmzljFiredog: your statemen up there is pretty much the archlinux manifesto :P11:52
MonkeyDustwhy not work with beta testers11:53
Firedoggmzlj: I am looking in to this now :))11:54
Firedogaptosid is a rolling release of sid11:54
Firedogaccording to wikipedia11:55
leejohn) leejohn: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/783598 anyone know if this fix is also applicable for OpenLDAP ?11:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 783598 in Light Display Manager "Notify users about expired credentials instead of showing login error." [Medium,Fix released]11:56
ActionParsnipleejohn: if someone knew a fix, the bug would be closed11:56
leejohnlightdm doesn't prompt a user that his/her credential is expired, instead it just prompt for a new password change request11:56
Firedognice to learn something new; arch sounds interesting but maybe not for me.11:57
Firedoga debian base is the way forward in my opinion.11:58
ActionParsnipFiredog: try xpud too, its small and extremely fast (boots in 4 seconds here)11:59
gmzljFiredog: theres also gentoo11:59
gmzlj!gentoo11:59
ubottuOther !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)11:59
gmzljoh11:59
gmzlji expected something snide11:59
Sidewinder1She is rerely snide..12:00
Sidewinder1rarely, even.12:00
pulpfictiongood morning everyone12:00
Sidewinder1Mornin'.12:00
Richard_MAwho am i?12:01
deej1976!ot | Richard_MA12:01
ubottuRichard_MA: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!12:01
pulpfictioni have a really simple question: how do i set the hardware clock to GMT and then set my ubuntu clock to the timezone i am?12:01
pulpfictioni have another SO installed and everytime i correct the time on one of them, the other gets wrong12:01
Sidewinder1!rootirc | Richard_MA12:02
ubottuRichard_MA: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.12:02
Firedoggentoo is nice, I think I prefer a system where some of the work is taken out by sensible decision making.12:02
gmzljFiredog: arch :P. /trolling12:03
* Sidewinder1 Sighs..12:04
Firedog;) seriously though. compiz and gnome 2 looks so good (especially cube desktop switching); its frustrating that there is a step backwards. Videos play on 3D textures and windows are dynamic even when moving, etc, etc12:05
ActionParsnipFiredog: shame gnome2 is dead12:06
gmzljFiredog: technically that last part holds now for mutter and kwin and anything modern12:06
gmzljas they're all composing window managers12:06
gmzljthe cube shit was kool12:06
gmzlj*cool12:06
crizzyFiredog: gnome3 fallback mode more or less works like gnome212:06
gmzljbut at least you can still run compiz with xfce12:06
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ActionParsnipor use xfce4 with compiz as WM12:06
crizzybiggest diff i noticed is you have to hold alt to 2nd click on applets :P12:06
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gmzljcrizzy: and its a change for the better12:07
Firedogcrizzy, but not with compiz.12:07
crizzyFiredog: false12:07
gmzljgnome-panel in gnome 2 was actually crap12:07
gmzljlibbonabo everywhere12:07
crizzyFiredog: works just fine12:07
gmzljthat was depreciated ages ago12:07
FiredogI have seen unity with compiz and the side panel did not go with the rest of the desktop12:07
gmzljFiredog: works fine. fallback mode is still metacity12:07
DemoOnwhat is uo with that from live usb everything works great, but when i install it it doesn't work?12:08
FiredogDemoOn, probably drivers, generic ones are used on live usb12:08
crizzygmzlj: it works with compiz just fine. ubuntu even adds session for this, 'gnome classic' and 'gnome classic (noeffects)' just like before when you install gnome12:08
DemoOnFiredog: how can i make it to work with generic ones?12:08
ActionParsnipDemoOn: what doesn't work? What is 'it'?12:09
FiredogDemoOn, you probably don't want to use generic drivers in the long run.12:09
DemoOnActionParsnip: it hangs on splash screen, i see only violet screen, now i tried kubuntu and it's same12:10
ActionParsnipDemoOn: what GPU do you use?12:10
DemoOnActionParsnip: radeon 685012:10
ActionParsnipDemoOn: try the boot option:  nomodeset12:11
DemoOnActionParsnip: where can i put it?12:11
ActionParsnipDemoOn: or the boot option:  radeon.nomodeset=112:11
ActionParsnip!bootoption12:11
ubottuFor a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions See also !nomodeset.12:11
yousifabdullahHello from webOS :)12:12
DemoOnActionParsnip: can i put that nomodest into grub somewhere?12:12
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Firedogfortunately I installed windows 7 beta in my second partition (same size as first) this has since expired so I might use this space to try and hammer the latest ubuntu into some usable form. -pulse +window controls on right not left +compiz -unity12:13
gmzljFiredog: -pulse simple isn't doable12:14
gmzljeven if its gnome 212:14
gmzljand hasn't been for some time12:14
Firedogpulse is horrible12:14
gmzljpulse is awesome. its just misunderstood12:14
FiredogI changed back to alsa because it works Pulse just made aweful noises12:14
gmzljFiredog: turn of cpu schedualing in /etc/pulse/system.pa12:15
gmzljbut thats alsa's fault12:15
gmzlj80% of audio problems in pulse are alsa's fault with less than stellar audio drivers12:16
FiredogWith pulse; I thought it simply did not get along with my sound card.12:16
norpanHow can i configure ubuntu to discover ALL my cores? I just discover ONE! im running i7 with ubuntu 11.10 and have to boot with "noapic nolapic" because it wont boot otherwise12:16
gmzljpulseaudio uses cpu timers for audio, like mac's core audio or windows 7 subsystem12:16
FiredogThe one reason I wanted a windows install was for good audio drivers.12:17
gmzljits a modern approach thats more flexiable, allows for variable latency demands simotaneously, and uses less power12:17
Firedognorpan, it should automatically12:17
norpanFiredog: its not ;(12:17
gmzljtraditionally, sound card interupts where used12:17
Firedognorpan it's part of the kernel code12:17
norpanFiredog: well whats wrong then? :S12:18
gmzljpulse, thus, uses a lot of alsa api that almost never gets used to get access to the raw audio buffers12:18
gmzljand broken alsa drivers where and are problematic12:18
gmzljbut this feature atleast is configuratble12:18
wolfricmy gnome config is screwed up since upgrading. the task bar is at the top of the screen under the bar with "applications + places". I tried deleting the gconf, gconfd compiz dirs and restarting but it didn't fix it. When i create a new user however, it isn't screwed up on theirs. what do i need to change to get it back to default12:18
gmzljFiredog: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/GlitchFreeAudio12:19
gmzljFiredog: ctrl-f tsched12:19
gmzljwolfric: screenshot? im confused12:20
gmzljwolfric: delete .dconf too12:20
Firedoggmzlj, you sound like you know a lot about pulse. I am becoming convinced that it could be good. I did find the lack of hardware controls under pulse to be limiting. Alsamixer has more buttons and controllers than you can shake a sheikh at.12:20
gmzljwolfric: ~/.config/dconf12:20
sburwood1Can I change an antenna on a USB wifi key and get better recepton??12:21
gmzljFiredog: that is true. those are there, kinda, its just a bit more complicated. and the default gnome-sound-panel doesn't expost everything.12:21
gmzljtypical gnome simplness12:21
sburwood1I have a TP-LINK tl-wn722N12:21
gmzljsburwood1: yes, but it may not be simple12:22
Firedogsburwood1: yes you CAN12:22
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wolfricgetting a screenshot now12:22
wolfricgmzlj: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/84/screenshotproblem.png/12:22
icerootsburwood1: ##hardare12:22
icerootsburwood1: ##hardware12:23
sburwood1Firedog: for a newbien like me, would it be easy?12:23
sburwood1thx iceroot12:23
gmzljwolfric: is that gnome 2 or 3?12:24
Firedogsburwood1:  http://lmgtfy.com/?q=change+antenna+on+wifi+dongle12:24
bazhangFiredog, please dont use lmgtfy12:24
wolfricgmzlj: 212:24
gmzljright click -> move panel won't work?12:25
Firedogbazhang: got-it :P12:25
republicanyone know the official irc channel for tuxpaint?12:25
Firedogit is funny though12:25
gmzljrepublic: tux4kids12:26
republicgmzlj, fantastic, thanks dude :D12:26
wolfricgmzlj: cheers fixed now12:26
gmzljrepublic: its on their site12:26
wolfricgmzlj: still can't right click any more though... is this a "feature" ?12:27
gmzljwolfric: gnome 3 fallback?12:27
gmzljalt+right click12:27
wolfricgmzlj: good grief, why was that implemented?12:28
gmzljwolfric: because otherwise its ambigious what gets the right click, the applet or the panel12:29
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gmzljtake right clicking on a system tray icon12:29
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DemoOnwith nomodeset i can only do something using ctrl+alt+f1, what can i try else?12:30
gmzljsometimes it tricky finding a place where right click would give you the panel's right click menu12:30
gmzljits an old gnome bug12:30
Firedoggmzlj: we need more mouse buttons, oh wait I found more12:30
gmzljFiredog: middle click and mouse wheel work too!12:30
Firedog:)12:30
gmzljmiddle click closes windows (iirc, that may be xfce)12:31
gmzljbut scroll wheel will cycle through them12:31
Firedogit does on the task bar which can be irritating if scrolling through a document and the mouse wanders over the task bar12:31
wolfricalso, how do i remove the guest account12:31
wolfrici've tried to remove gdm-guest-session and it says it's not installed however if i do dpkg -l | grep guest.. it shows it installed12:32
wolfrici even installed it and removed it and no difference... can still login with guest12:32
gmzljwolfric: http://shuffleos.com/3614/how-to-disable-guest-session-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot/12:33
gmzlji know you're not supposed to say go google it12:33
gmzljbut thats something people have written article about12:33
gmzljgoogle is your friend12:33
FiredogI found that out just :P12:34
gmzljyeah12:34
Firedogwith the lmgtfy advice12:34
gmzlji can respect it12:34
MonkeyDustgoogle knows more about you, than you know about yourself ;)12:34
ActionParsnipwolfric: http://joesteiger.com/2011/11/14/remove-guest-session-from-lightdm-login-ubuntu-11-10/12:34
gmzljbut i think its just a touch silly as a blanket rule12:34
* Sidewinder1 Prefers Scroogle..12:35
MonkeyDustbekka12:35
ActionParsnipwolfric: removing and reinstalling will not change the config magically12:35
gmzljduckduckgoose12:35
MonkeyDustblekka*12:35
Firedogagreed, perhaps a rtfg or something instead12:35
gmzlj*duckduckgo12:35
wolfricActionParsnip: thanks12:35
gmzljalright sleep time12:35
Firedogthanks for your help12:36
Firedoggmzlj: it's appreciated12:36
ActionParsnipwolfric: simple websearch...12:36
wolfricActionParsnip: i did, it came up with removing exactly what i specified12:36
ActionParsnipwolfric: http://duckduckgo.com/?q=oneiric+remove+guest+from+lightdm&kp=1    is what I used12:37
republicwow tuxpaint is amazing12:37
wolfricActionParsnip: and where would i have gotten lightdm from?12:37
republictuxpaint + ubuntu is very suitable for children12:37
ActionParsnipwolfric: its the default login manager in oneiric12:37
wolfricActionParsnip: google "ubuntu remove guest" both the forum and this link both say the package removal12:37
wolfrichttp://askubuntu.com/questions/28165/how-do-i-remove-the-guest-session-option-from-the-shutdown-menu12:38
ActionParsnipwolfric: too generic, you should specify the release in searches12:38
mintpart12:38
ActionParsniprepublic: enable the funky sounds too. good times12:38
wolfricActionParsnip: so you can see why getting that from a websearch is sometimes not an easy task12:39
ActionParsnipwolfric: depends how you search, keep them simple but exact12:39
ActionParsnipwolfric: even:   oneiric remove guest    would have been better12:40
wolfricActionParsnip: no, you need to pretty much know the answers or have seen the answers already.  new user is never going to know they need to necessarily google the release version. If i get an answer without the release version, what would make me think it was incorrect12:41
FiredogIt seems silly that there is no simple function to do what wolfric wanted to do that was already defined, as a script or whatever.12:42
ActionParsnipwolfric: its why using 2 search engines is good, different methods, different results12:42
famgodquestion, in gome3 how do I move icons form the gome3 bar (or unity) to the   deskktop\12:42
|Long|i need ome help with hardware (like merging 10 hard drives to one VLM) plz help12:42
FiredogActionParsnip, bing?12:43
ActionParsnipFiredog: sure, why not :)12:43
ActionParsnipfamgod: one way is to copy (or symlink) the files in /usr/share/applications   to the desktop12:43
FiredogI can give you my anecdotal experience of bing. its just a shame it's not better than it is in my opinion.12:43
ActionParsnipFiredog: try a few search engines and you'll get a lot of different results, which can help resolutions12:44
Firedogto be fair, bing is the only contender left so I hope they do well in the long run. No competition is a scary prospect12:44
ActionParsnipindeed12:45
ActionParsnipI use duckduckgo as it doesn't bubble you and you get unfiltered results, unlink google12:45
ActionParsnip*unlike12:45
Firedogunlink makes sense too :)12:45
wolfricFiredog: the only reason it's good is that it leeches searches from google ( google proved it). I'd hazzard a guess they may not be doing it any more but when they were, they harvested a good amount of results from google to get them started12:46
Firedogwolfric: if they were that good by using google then I wonder how they would have been without them :o12:47
wolfrichttp://pastebin.com/2xPAMykC12:48
wolfriclove it :p12:49
rj11Hello12:52
rj11Are there any doxygen packages available without the incredible overhead of tex? I want doxygen without the latex support.12:53
ActionParsnipwolfric: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 40976EAF437D05B512:53
HugoDanielhi12:54
HugoDanieli love unity :)12:54
HugoDanielits amazing12:54
wolfricActionParsnip: cheers though i found the bug report on it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/2406112:54
ActionParsnipHugoDaniel: yeah, s'not bad12:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 24061 in apt (Ubuntu) "GPG error with apt-get/aptitude/update-manager behind proxy (BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5)" [Low,Triaged]12:54
HugoDanielonce you get used to it, things really flow like they should :)12:54
luca_biDo you think SilverStripe could be installed on Ubuntu 11.10?12:54
FiredogActionParsnip; the bubble thing is a real pain and I dislike it greatly. I tried various userscripts to remove it from google, they did not work reliably12:54
HugoDanielbubble ?12:55
HugoDanielin firefox ?12:55
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FiredogHugoDaniel: search engines12:55
HugoDanielah12:56
HugoDanielyes12:56
HugoDanielduckduckgo is a nice one though12:56
deej1976luca_bi: http://www.silverstripe.org/stable-download Sayes Linux12:56
HugoDanielor scroogle12:56
HugoDaniel:)12:56
FloodBot1HugoDaniel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.12:56
HugoDanieloh sorry, im typing too fast12:56
luca_bideej1976: I'm downloading it It's a file tar.gz which is the successive command?12:57
HugoDanieli really like the bang keywords of duckduckgo, its a nice search engine to keep in firefox ctrl-k12:57
deej1976luca_bi: Works pretty much with any system/webserver running php12:57
deej1976successive?12:57
luca_biHow can I install a file tar.gz?12:57
rj11luca_bi: You don't install a tar.gz file. What you do with it depends on its contents.12:58
deej1976luca_bi: Read their instructions here: http://doc.silverstripe.org/sapphire/en/12:58
luca_birj11: It's SilverStripe12:59
rj11luca_bi: tar zxf the-file.tar.gz to unpack it. :)12:59
deej1976luca_bi: It's not part of Ubuntu so I can not offer any further help12:59
luca_birj11: My problem is that I never remember the command to unpack a file13:02
ActionParsnipwolfric: HugoDaniel yeah, its sweet like that13:02
ActionParsnipluca_bi: install unp and its abstracted to a single command13:03
rj11luca_bi: Just do 'man 1 tar' the next time. At the bottom there are a few examples. :)13:03
FiredogHugoDaniel: yes duckduckgo and scroogle; I am investigating them now13:03
Firedogalso @ actionparsnip13:03
ActionParsnipI've used the duck for ages. great engine13:04
deej1976luca_bi: 'Admin hint' When given commands to use make a note of it in a little book.13:04
deej1976luca_bi: I did this when I started out, watching over the senior Admins shoulder13:05
luca_bideej1976: Is there a chat channel IRC for SilverStripe??13:05
luca_biWhat is unp??13:05
deej1976luca_bi: No idea, they have a forum on their site13:06
ActionParsnipluca_bi: its a one stop shop command for extracting nearly anything13:06
luca_birj11: man 1 tar??13:06
axisyshow to play video dvd ?13:06
aruncn1i am trying to switch to runlevel 3 from gui. tried "telinit 3". I am still in gui, but "runlevel" says 3. any ideas?13:06
ActionParsnipluca_bi: saves having to remember if its zxvf or jxvf or if you use 7z or rar, its one command for all13:06
ActionParsnip!dvd | axisys13:06
ubottuaxisys: Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats13:06
FiredogAnnoying how privacy is non existent when searching with google. even worse is that they are building a profile all the time and there is no opt-out through them.13:06
ActionParsnip!runlevel | aruncn113:07
rj11luca_bi: Try 'man 1 tar' in a terminal.13:07
ubottuaruncn1: In Ubuntu all runlevels except 0,1 and 6 are by default equal. Also keep in mind that Ubuntu now uses !Upstart instead of System V init so there is normally no /etc/inittab.13:07
ActionParsnipFiredog: doesn't worry me personally13:07
norpanHow can i configure ubuntu to discover ALL my cores? I just discover ONE! im running i7 with ubuntu 11.10 and have to boot with "noapic nolapic" because it wont boot otherwise13:07
axisysActionParsnip: thanks13:07
ActionParsnipnorpan: do you have the latest BIOS?13:08
luca_bideej1976: I have a book in which I take notes thanks a lot of commands but i should order it13:09
pr0dHi all, i have a strange problem where my ntfs partition will not mount on boot but when the system starts i do mount -a and it works fine, any ideas?13:09
rj11luca_bi: man = short for manual.13:09
luca_bideej1976: It is a very good advice I have a lot of booknotes each for each programs13:09
kamilnadeemHI13:10
FiredogActionParsnip: its the all pervasiveness of it. google syndication scripts as well as google api's google ad services and statistics are bundled into so many webpages nowadays. It's creepy13:10
DemonWitchhey13:10
luca_biActionParnship: what is zxf file?13:11
aruncn1ubottu: so how can i goto text mode from gui?  removing init-script for gdm? i like to do it without removing the script so that if i like to boot in gui i don't have to re-enable script13:11
ubottuaruncn1: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:11
rj11luca_bi: z = gzip, x = extract, f = file. It's the command tar executes.13:11
Firedoglucia_bi: it is command options not a file13:12
aruncn1ubottu: ;)13:12
kamilnadeemhttp://i.imgur.com/bYNtt.jpg13:12
luca_birj11: Extract all files from archive.tar.13:12
luca_bi           tar -xf archive.tar13:12
rj11luca_bi: See 'man 1 tar' for details. It's all explained there.13:12
kamilnadeemI am getting the above while bumping my mouse to the screen , every time13:12
kamilnadeemwhy is that and is there a fix?13:12
rj11luca_bi: Yes, and you're tar is gzipped, so add the z: tar zxf file.tar.gz (the - is optional).13:12
rj11your*13:12
like_summer13:13
like_summerhello ?13:13
like_summeris there anyone here ?13:13
kamilnadeemthe effect is like when you drag windows to edges but In this case I am not doing any such thing http://i.imgur.com/bYNtt.jpg13:13
ActionParsnipluca_bi: its the options on tar to extract a gzipped tarball, file extensions in Linux mean near zero, so 'zxf file' is meaningless13:14
luca_birj11: tar zxf is not a universal command for each file .tar?13:14
DemonWitchHey13:14
axisysActionParsnip: I ran both .. sudo apt-get install libdvdread4 and sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh13:14
pr0dHi all, i have a strange problem where my ntfs partition will not mount on boot but when the system starts i do mount -a and it works fine, any ideas?13:14
axisysbut still failing.. saying searching for plugins13:14
ActionParsnipluca_bi: if you install the unp package, with ANY archive, you can run:  unp filename    and it will extract 'filename'13:14
DemonWitchi am piping a stream to VLC from terminal, should i use ( | vlc ) or (  | vlc - )  ??13:15
ActionParsnipaxisys: which players have you tried?13:15
shi-tianlongshould i set the user of ww flder to www-data in order to allow apache to create modify files on websites inside?13:15
axisysActionParsnip: mplayer vcd:///dev/sr013:15
user_Hi13:15
ActionParsnipaxisys: tried totem or vlc?13:15
user_can i install ubuntu 11.10 on mac laptop?13:16
axisysActionParsnip: how do I call vlc ?13:16
rj11luca_bi: Read the man page. It explains it.13:16
axisysActionParsnip: how do I call it with vlc? http://pastebin.com/hSjJ6rUw13:17
ActionParsnipaxisys: install it like a normal package then from the file menu click 'open disk'13:17
kamilnadeemis there any fix for it >?13:17
like_summer我晕。这里是哪里啊?13:17
luca_birj11: which is the difference between tar and gzip?13:19
Kiranoshi I have a qt app which has flashing icon in tasktray, this works in windows and xfce, but in unity tasktray it stays solid, no flashing or changing icon image in the unity launcher13:19
Kiranosis this not supported?13:20
shi-tianlonglike_summer: 中文 ubuntu-cn13:20
like_summer米有淫说汉语吗13:20
shi-tianlonglike_summer: 中文 去 -》 #ubuntu-cn13:20
psycho_oreos!cn| like_summer13:20
ubottulike_summer: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw13:20
ActionParsnipluca_bi: tar makes everything into one file but is not compressed, gzip is just a compression tool, you can use anything you like but gzip is very common13:20
like_summerzheli ?13:20
axisysActionParsnip: vlc is working now.. thanks13:21
like_summer只能去中文吗?13:21
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ActionParsnipaxisys: np man13:21
psycho_oreoslike_summer, because you're speaking in Chinese, you need to join the Chinese support channels, here its mainly English only13:21
ActionParsnipKiranos: yuo can run QT apps in Gnome, you may need to tweak them to gel nicer13:22
KiranosActionParsnip: thanks yes I know they work in gnome but I would like to add compatibily for unity launcher, just dont know if its possible to get flashing/blinking icons on there?13:23
like_summerpsycho_oreos,  thanks13:23
ActionParsnipKiranos: which app is it?13:23
KiranosActionParsnip: our companies, private app13:23
psycho_oreoslike_summer, no problems13:23
Kiranosbuild in qt creator13:23
Kiranosusing freedesktop standard13:23
seeucan anyone help me where to download ubuntu restricted extras offline installer for 11.10?13:24
like_summerare you Chinese ?13:24
ActionParsnipKiranos: could just use KDE instead...13:24
ActionParsnipseeu: that could get real messy, if you grab a system (or VM) without the package installed, install it, then copy the debs from /var/cache/apt/archives   you can use them13:25
KiranosActionParsnip: yea bit of a stretch though changing default window handler just because flashing icons doest work :)13:25
ActionParsnipKiranos: depends how crucial it is13:25
Kiranosnot so critical, just wanted to be certain its a limitation in unity13:25
Kiranosthanks!13:26
seeucan anyone help me where to find out ubuntu restricted extras offline installer for 11.10?13:26
seeuquit13:27
like_summerquit ?13:27
r4yhello13:27
like_summerhello13:28
ActionParsnipKiranos: you could greate it in GTK too so it gels nice13:28
Kiranoshm so you mean gtk using freedesktops standards will have a flashing icon in unity launcher?13:28
r4yI was trying to install smartmontools but it never finished, so I closed the terminal after an hour or 2 and then tried again:13:28
r4yhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/749264/13:28
ActionParsnipKiranos: not sure, could try it if you have time13:29
gappiehi again. trying to install ububntu server 10.4 i386. getting blue screen after "downloading the release file". Any ideas?13:29
safiyehello13:29
ActionParsnipr4y: are updates installing or software centre open?13:29
r4yI updated before hand13:29
ActionParsnipgappie: what does the blue screen say?13:29
safiyei am on lenovo s12 and have problems with wlan. its gone13:29
r4yI will check the system monitor13:30
ActionParsnip!aptfix | r4y13:30
ubottur4y: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »13:30
safiye03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)13:30
safiyehow can i get it back to  work?13:30
ActionParsnip!broadcom | safiye13:30
ubottusafiye: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx13:30
scarleoHow do I reset the battery stats in 11.10? There used to be an option in battery details to reset it but it's gone13:30
gappieActionParsnip: there is a popup for the "downloading the release file" and then it dissapears leaving just the blue backgoround and white bar at the bottom where I can type13:31
Zeakdanyone know where I can go to find a non-web based proxy server?13:31
r4yIt's still the same13:31
r4yI wasn't answering your question13:31
gappieActionParsnip: doing install from a usb to another usb13:32
gappieor attempting to13:32
gappiethen tried to install to HD from usb, but did the same13:32
like_summerweima wo kan bu dong ne ?13:32
bazhang!cn | like_summer13:32
ubottulike_summer: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw13:32
gappieburning to cd nowfor install13:33
gappieotherwise should I try ubuntu server 11.10 ?13:33
r4yI am going to try this: http://smallmailman.wordpress.com/2010/07/11/fix-for-e-could-not-get-lock-varcacheaptarchiveslock-open-11-resource-temporarily-unavailable/13:33
like_summerjoin13:34
like_summerjoin ubuntu -tw13:34
gappieevery time i do something on linux it is a battle. sheeesh13:34
travis_when I lose internet connectivity, I can't access localhost in my browser despite it being in /etc/hosts. Any ideas?13:35
ActionParsnipgappie: you'll learn13:35
ActionParsniptravis_: can you ping localhost?13:35
like_summerjoin #ubuntu-tw13:36
Zeakdanyone know where I can go to find a non-web based proxy server?13:37
safiyeActionParsnip, i am on crunchbang and i get this13:37
Picilike_summer: you need the slash: /join #ubuntu-tw13:37
Gentoo64Zeakd, privoxy, polipo etc13:37
safiyeE: Unable to locate package bcmwl-kernel-source13:37
like_summerPici,  yeah ,i did it13:37
Picisafiye: We do not support crunchbang here, please use their support channel.13:37
safiyeokay, im sorry. i thought they both base on the same os13:37
safiyeare based13:38
r4yHow do I know how to kill any of these proccesses in the system monitor: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=170195413:38
ActionParsnipr4y: if you run:  ps -ef | grep dpkg    does anything come up?13:39
r4yI should have bookmarked ubuntu pastebin13:40
r4yhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/749269/13:40
Firedogr4y: checked for temporary lock file?13:40
ActionParsnipr4y: you can install pastebinit and run:  ps -ef | grep dpkg | pastebinit13:41
like_summerI think I should learn  enlish  someshow now .13:41
ActionParsnipr4y: sudo kill 9930     and if that doesn't work:    sudo kill -9 993013:41
Firedoglearn engrish13:42
Firedog:P13:42
r4ySystem monitor still looks busy13:42
r4ysudo kill -9 9930 kill: No such process13:42
Firedogr4y: use top13:43
r4yAnd the other didn't say anything, but hey13:43
m4kSudo killall13:43
Firedogto discover heavy processor usage culprits13:43
bogeyd6I am on ubuntu 11.04 x86 and when clicking the upgrade button to 11.10 I get the following error: "Authentication Failed, Authenticating the upgrade failed. There may be a problem with the network or with the server"13:43
bogeyd6I use the mirror.anl.gov13:44
m4kThe n/w13:44
norpanActionParsnip: yes13:44
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kamilnadeemI have created a bug on Kubuntu-website ,about it being not updated. you might help in bringing it to notice . here https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-website/+bug/89399713:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 893997 in Kubuntu Website "The Kubuntu sites is archaic(both in content and design), an updation is must. " [Undecided,New]13:45
ActionParsnipnorpan: yes what? you lost me13:46
norpanActionParsnip: i have the latest bios13:46
r4yI check all in system monitor and found the problem. Something called whiptail and when hovering over it it has a large message but postfix is part in that message so I am guessing to kill it13:47
bubuhi guys, sure you've heard this one before but can't find a straight answer online - in 11.04 how can i restart networking? service networking restart doesnt work and /etc/init.d/networkign restart has been depriciated13:47
bubu?13:47
sattu94bubu: IIRC, sudo service networking restart,13:48
ActionParsnipnorpan: good, can help with acpi stuffs13:48
bogeyd6_bubu: go up to the clock area and click on the network icon and uncheck the box, then recheck the box for your network connection13:48
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norpanActionParsnip: yeah, is that what happened when i boot with "noapic nolapic" i lose the other cores?13:48
Firedogr4y: ah whiptail how you steal my CPU power, curses to you13:48
bubusattu94, sudo service networking restart doesnt work either13:48
ActionParsnipnorpan: are there any bugs reported?13:49
buburestart: Unknown instance:13:49
sattu94bubu: try reload,13:49
bububogeyd6_, my system doesnt have the connections tab at the top where clock is...13:50
bubusattu94, already tried, same....13:50
llutzbubu: sudo network-manager restart    o13:50
llutzbubu: sudo service network-manager restart    o13:50
bogeyd6_or sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager restart13:50
sattu94llutz: network-manager != networking, right ?13:50
bogeyd6_!network-manager13:51
ubottunetworkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager13:51
llutzbubu: and if you're using ifupdown, "sudo ifdown -a && sudo ifup -a"13:51
r4yI don't understand why smartmontools never finished installing. I guess I will just have to restart and try over. Sorry for flooding.13:51
CraigMasonHi all. For some reason, I cannot edit any settings in the Network Settings panel. Edit/Delete buttons do not work13:51
r4yTY, Take care13:51
bogeyd6_I am on ubuntu 11.04 x86 and when clicking the upgrade button to 11.10 I get the following error: "Authentication Failed, Authenticating the upgrade failed. There may be a problem with the network or with the server"13:52
bubullutz, I get: Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0. and same for eth1 when i issue that...13:52
sattu94CraigMason: I think you probably need superuser permissions to change those?13:52
CraigMasonsattu94, tried running as sudo etc. No luck13:52
llutzbubu: so you haven't configured your network in /etc/network/interfaces (ifupdown). restart network-manager to restart network then13:53
bogeyd6_!cli13:53
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal or type in it: man intro13:53
bubullutz, cool thanks that seemed to work. has that actually taken my interfaces down and back up again though or just restarted the network manager binary...?13:54
Firedogr4y: you killed whiptail, whiptail Displays user-friendly dialog boxes from shell scripts. Such as installing smartmontools :P hence my curses reference, sorry13:55
llutzbubu:use " sudo service network-manager restart    "  if you  haven't configured your network in /etc/network/interfaces, use "ifdown/ifup" _if_ you have13:57
norpanActionParsnip: i dont really follow you here, bugs reported where? im sorry13:57
ActionParsnip!bugs | norpan13:57
ubottunorpan: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.13:57
llutz!pm  | bubu13:57
ubottububu: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.13:57
ActionParsnipnorpan: that link shoud give a link to the bugs and you can search13:57
bubulol13:58
bubukk13:58
bubudoes restarting-networking mgr actually take the interfaces down and backup and reconfigure?13:58
FiredogI have just laughed myself silly at engrish.com thanks to like_summer13:58
norpanActionParsnip: ALOT of stuff to read :P13:58
llutzbubu: it should13:58
ActionParsnipnorpan: indeed13:59
norpanActionParsnip: is there any meaning of using acpi? i belive that is whats is doing bad stuff here.  i use both "noapic" and "nolapic" could i use some other command to make it boot?13:59
norpanActionParsnip: oh..its the APIC im disabling with those..14:00
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norpanHow can i make my Ubuntu boot WITHOUT the bootparameters "noapic nolapic" because im only seeing one core when i use those..14:03
NakouHello Guys14:05
axisyshow do I upload images into a blank CD-R14:06
axisysi have 50 jpg files that I like to upload in the cd-r14:07
icerootaxisys: burn them14:07
icerootaxisys: with k3b for example14:07
axisysiceroot: i only know how to burn iso using wodim to burn iso into a cd14:07
norpanHow can i make my Ubuntu boot WITHOUT the bootparameters "noapic nolapic" because im only seeing one core when i use those..14:07
icerootnorpan: press "shift" at boot and select the kernel you want to boot, press e to edit that line and remove what you want14:08
axisysiceroot: any other app besides k3b ? brassero may be?14:08
icerootaxisys: yes brassero should be the default one on ubuntu14:08
yousifabdullahnero 4 linux ftw :p14:08
icerootaxisys: just select "files" instead of "images"14:08
Sidewinder1axisys, When you put in the blank CD, it should ask you.. Beassero should work..14:08
norpaniceroot: yes thats how i got it to boot in the first place, by adding "noapic nolapic" as boot parameters. But it does not boot without those parameters and i feel strongly that this is causing me to only see 1 core in ubuntu14:08
Anticomhi all14:08
Sidewinder1Brassero, even.14:09
yousifabdullahhi anticom what's up14:09
zak_Hi, I run 11.10 server with xubuntu desktop via a not-so-good kvm switch. Is there a way to get ubuntu to recognize the full resolution of the monitor (1280x1024, not 1024x768)?14:09
yousifabdullahnorpan tried acpi=off?14:09
yousifabdullahzak what kvm is that14:09
norpanyousifabdullah: no i have not, is that somehow different? or similiar?14:09
Piciyousifabdullah: acpi != apic14:09
yousifabdullahpici I know but it may help14:09
zak_dlink dkvm-2k14:09
Anticomfirst to say: i'm a linux noob. i want to remove tesseract using apt-get remove but it says E: Unable to locate package tesseract14:09
yousifabdullahnorpan it's different14:09
PiciAnticom: I believe  the package name is tesseract-ocr14:10
yousifabdullahzak does your graphics card have the proper driver14:10
norpanyousifabdullah: i have trying to read what apic and acpi does, but im not 100% on it..14:10
yousifabdullahnorpan trying won't kill...14:10
norpanyousifabdullah: but i figured its not really good to run "noapic nolapic" as standard14:10
norpanyousifabdullah: but, if it boots when i disable apic, why do i need to disable acpi instead?14:11
norpanapic AND lapic14:11
zak_yousifabdullah, it is a standard intel onboard graphics controller14:11
axisysI have 714 1M files.. so the CD-R is smaller.. any suggestion on how to convert those JPGs to smaller size so I can fit them all in one CD ?14:11
axisysSONY CD-R is 700MB only14:12
yeatsaxisys: gzip?14:12
jjgalvez__axisys: you should be able to recompress them to make them smaller14:12
axisysyeats: well i need to keep the images visible14:12
yeatsaxisys: maybe save them as a lower image quality using gimp?14:12
axisysjjgalvez__: jpg to jpg and still smaller ?14:12
axisysyeats: 714 of them using gimp will take very long time14:13
jjgalvez__axisys: I would use something like imagemagic from the command line to compress them even smaller14:13
NorwackI Need help14:13
amithii.. Need help here14:14
NorwackIs it possible to get ubuntu 8.1????14:14
jjgalvez__axisys: your compression should depend on how much compression was used to make the jpegs in the first place, since you really don't need much additional space you should not need to increase the compression by much14:14
sattu94Norwack: you mean 8.04 ?14:14
yousifabdullahnorwack sure try the torrents14:14
jjgalvez__amit: ask your question14:14
Norwackyes sattu14:14
xanguaNorwack: please use a supported ubuntu release ubuntu.com14:14
amitWhen I try to open a folder using dash or applications it shows.. Failed to execute default File Manager.14:14
axisysjjgalvez__: DSC_8402.JPG: JPEG image data, JFIF standard 1.0214:15
Norwacki dont like the new layout of ubuntu14:15
sattu94xangua: i remember when i installed 9.04 because the LTSP server documentation worked only on 9.04 systems, and could not find any working documentation for 10.04..14:15
sipiorNorwack: you'll like getting rooted even less.14:15
yeatsNorwack: you'd probably want 10.0414:15
zak_I suspect that the kvm drops some/all of the edid info.. :(14:15
Norwackor is it possible to get the layout of ubuntu 8.04 to ubuntu 11?14:15
amitWhen I try to open a folder using dash or applications it shows.. Failed to execute default File Manager.14:15
CaptainKnotsNorwack: try kubuntu or lubuntu14:16
CaptainKnotsor mint 1214:16
xangua!nounity | Norwack14:16
ubottuNorwack: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic14:16
NakouGuys, i have nscd installed on a linux who launched in nfsroot mode, to run thunderbird and all application who need cache daemon. But nscd fail to launch at start, and it necessary to load on the terminal in sudo root mode14:16
Nakouanyone know how to fix that and make it auto14:16
Sidewinder1Norwack, Then try 10.04, that's what I'm currently using and love it; it will be supported for the next year or two. :-)14:16
Nakou?14:16
yeatsNorwack: which linux?14:17
Nakou(Linux 11.04)14:17
yeatsNorwack: sorry - meant for Nakou14:17
NorwackCaptainKnots: Is it possible to install Mint beside of windows=14:17
Norwack?14:17
CaptainKnotsNorwack: yes14:17
CaptainKnotsgrub will detect the windows loader and chainload14:17
bekksNorwack: Thats a good question for the mint support channel ;)14:17
yousifabdullahnorwack: easiest is with cygwin14:17
amit??14:18
zak_how do I pass parameters to kernel at boot in 11.10 server?14:18
Sidewinder1Norwack, 10.04, you will not be disappointed, I promise. :D14:18
amitany uidea??14:18
Norwackis it like 11?14:18
gmzljphrik: disapprove is<reply>ಠ_ಠ14:19
yeatsamit: try opening a terminal and typing 'nautilus'14:19
Sidewinder1Norwack, Please see here for the different versions and how long they're supported: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%2914:19
Sidewinder1Norwack, 10.04 is Gnome2; nut unity!14:19
Sidewinder1not, even, but I guess they both work.. :-)14:20
amityeats, it opens but when i open anything using dash or using any app it says the error14:20
amitWhen I try to open a folder using dash or applications it shows.. Failed to execute default File Manager.14:20
yeatsamit: what have you changed?14:20
Norwackso where can i get 10.04?14:20
xanguafrom ubuntu.com Norwack14:20
Nakouso? for my nscd problem?14:20
yeats!10.04 | Norwack14:20
ubottuNorwack: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004 - Supported until April 2013 (Desktop), April 2015 (Server)14:20
amityeats, in transmission I was trying to open a file directly there I typed nautilus.. the problem started from that14:21
zak_I need to pass a parameter to the kernel at boot. How (where) do I enter this in 11.10 server?14:21
dr_willisamit:  i recall the ubuntu-tweak (not officially supported) had a 'reset gnome settings' feature14:21
NorwackI Want to install that 10.04 beside windows14:21
Sidewinder1Norwack, http://torrent.ubuntu.com/ Don't forget to Md5sum the ISO, prior to burning at the slowest speed.14:21
dr_williszak_:  the grub2 config files. /etc/default/grub14:22
amitdr_willis, ok trying that14:22
llutzzak_: edit /etc/default/grub , add your parameter and run update-grub14:22
zak_dr_willis, llutz thanks!14:22
Sidewinder1Norwack, Also have a look here for a step-by-step: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index14:22
Nakouzak_: You can create a new file, the number on the title made the order of launch in the grub menu14:22
Nakouor editing14:22
Nakousee wat you need14:23
Sidewinder1Norwack, But don't go anywhere near WUBI!14:23
cantererchecking for tgetent in -lcurses... no14:23
cantererno terminal library found14:23
cantererchecking for tgetent()... configure: error: NOT FOUND!14:23
canterer      You need to install a terminal library; for example ncurses.14:23
canterer      Or specify the name of the library with --with-tlib.14:23
FloodBot1canterer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.14:23
canterermake[1]: *** [config] 错误 114:23
BluesKajHey folks14:23
Norwackwhats wrong with wubi?14:24
jjgalvez__axisys: install imagemagic and give the command comvert <file.jpg> -quality 75 <newname.jpb>  a try, you can play with the quality factor to see what gives you the best quality/size14:24
Sidewinder1Norwack, What you're lookin' for is Dual Boot.14:24
cantererI am installing the vim14:24
axisysjjgalvez__: installed imagemagick.. let me try the command14:24
cantererbut  when I  make14:24
cantererhave the wrong14:24
yeatscanterer: try 'sudo apt-get install vim'14:24
jjgalvez__axisys: you can always write a quick shell script to grep through all the pictures if that gives you want you need14:25
cantererI have load the package14:25
axisysjjgalvez__: yep14:25
amitdr_willis, yeats  still not working14:25
Sidewinder1BluesKaj, Mornin'.!14:25
cantereryeats:  I have load the package14:25
cantererand  I ./configer14:25
amitFailed to execute child process "nautilius" (No such file or directory).14:25
BluesKajhi Sidewinder114:25
yeatscanterer: why are you building vim from source?14:26
cantererand  when the step : make I do14:26
Sidewinder1Norwack, Just ask BluesKaj about WUBI.. ;-)14:26
norpanCant get my Ubuntu to boot without NOAPIC NOLAPIC bootparameters, why is that? What can i do? I only see 1 core in ubuntu aswell, im using a i7 quad!14:26
cantererI have a package of vim14:26
like_summerFiredog,  i ear some ago14:26
cantererso  I should  install it14:26
Sidewinder1BluesKaj, Don't you just love how I volunteer your help? :p14:26
norpanamit: nautilius? whats that?14:26
yeatscanterer: I don't understand - is there a reason you're installing vim from source rather than just installing the repo version?14:26
cantererunzip --->  ./configure ---> make14:27
amitmistyped!\14:27
amithow can I correct that?14:27
BluesKajSidewinder1, yeah :)14:27
cantereryeats : not the repo version14:27
jjgalvez__norpan: laptop or desktop, I had an older dell that did the same thing, not that I have any real insight into the problem14:27
like_summerFiredog,  why did you thank me14:27
Norwackomg14:27
BluesKajNorwack, first time ubuntu user ?14:27
norpanjjgalvez__: im using a desktop!14:27
Norwackim outta here14:27
Sidewinder1BluesKaj, A guy's gotta' have some fun.. :)14:27
yeatscanterer: I'll ask again... why are you not using the repo version?14:28
cantererftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unix/vim-7.3.tar.bz214:28
cantereryeats :  I want to improv the vim14:28
jjgalvez__norpan: have you tried changing the power settings in your bios?14:28
like_summerblue_bomber,  yes i am new14:28
norpanjjgalvez__: i have, but i cant really find anything usefull in there, i cant find anything that has the name APIC in it for example14:29
norpanjjgalvez__: Other then that i dont know what to look for14:29
cantereryeats: so I can have a envirment  that can siut to my develop14:29
Sidewinder1BluesKaj, He wants to dual boot with 10.04, doesn't care for unity; imagine that..14:29
Sidewinder1Norwack, Goog Luck!14:30
like_summerit's 22:30 now .14:30
BluesKajNorwack, what about clasic gnome14:30
Sidewinder1Good, even..14:30
like_summerwill you sleep now /14:30
norpanjjgalvez__: and as far as i know, isnt acpi power management? its booting when i disable the APIC, wich i dont really know that it does hah14:30
norpanjjgalvez__: what* it dies14:30
norpanDOES*14:30
* like_summer 跳一下14:31
jjgalvez__norpan: yes APIC is power managment14:31
NorwackI Have used ubuntu many times, but doesnt like the new fuckin layout, lol14:31
Norwackand i want debian, but aint on my own internet for a few months14:31
amithelp anyone!!14:31
jjgalvez__so does it boot when you disable APIC from the bios?14:31
norpanjjgalvez__: oh, both acpi and apic is power management? i didnt know that14:31
amitFailed to execute child process "nautilius" (No such file or directory).14:31
Laurencebhi14:32
Sidewinder1!language > Now14:32
Firedognorpan: still no luck with the multi-core CPU?14:32
aegisxThis isn't an Ubuntu specific question, but is there a way to hide connection / disconnection notifications permanently?14:32
norpanFiredog: no :(14:32
Laurencebhow much data does reads only drive benchmarking exchange?14:32
NakouOn the rc#.d/, the process with a letter like "K20-process" were killed at this state?14:32
jjgalvez__amit: have you installed or removed any packages recently? because it looks like you don't have nautilus, on your system. try running it from a terminal14:32
Sidewinder1!language > Norwack14:32
ubottuNorwack, please see my private message14:32
BluesKajNorwack, you'll just have to make upyour own mind what you want to do. I use KDE myself14:32
Firedognorpan: what are you using to discern if it is working on one core or more?14:32
norpanFiredog: some cpuinfo command and the regular systemmonitor14:33
amitjigalvez_, I do have nauilus.. I typed buy accident nauilius in transmission while oopening a file14:33
Firedognorpan: so you are in the desktop and see only one graph for cpu cores right?14:33
norpanFiredog: pm me instead, its an ocean of messages here and i check now and then..im cleaing my appartment :P14:33
Norwackwow, this sucks. On another IRC they learn people to use the word "Fu**"..But its a irc for cool people tho14:33
Sidewinder1BluesKaj, I already suggested 10.04; he could also use 11.04 with classic.14:34
norpanFiredog: yes and in cpuinfo i only see one core aswell14:34
jjgalvez__amit: Oh so do you still have tranmission running?14:35
amityeah14:35
BluesKajSidewinder1, he doesn't have any real problems IMO , he's just not sure what to do14:35
NakouOn the rc#.d/, the process with a letter like "K20-process" were killed at this state?14:35
newbHelo all! I've updated my Oneiric system and My Gnome 3.2 stopped working with Mutter. My /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe has fbdev how driver. I've changed to intel but do not worked yet. I think my XOrg disabled the correct support. Somebody can Help me with this? My PC is an ASUS EEEPC 1005-HA netbook.14:35
jjgalvez__amit: or rather is it still trying to serve nautilus ? I would try shutting tansmission down14:35
amitjjgalvez__, closing it did nothing14:36
Laurencebim getting a too slow to benchmark error14:36
amitperhaps transmission set it as default or somethng14:36
Laurencebis there a command line benchmark tool?14:36
jjgalvez__amit: not sure what you mean?14:36
Sidewinder1BluesKaj, No, no problems; his original question was could he download Hardy 'caise he didn't like unity; that's when I suggested Lucid. :-)14:36
Sidewinder1'cause, even.14:37
* BluesKaj has to bone up on gnome desktop options14:38
yeatscanterer: vim from source will behave the same as vim from the repos... customizing happens in /etc/vim/vimrc (system-wide) or ~/.bashrc for just your user14:38
* Sidewinder1 coffe.14:38
dr_willis~/.vimrc14:39
yeatscanterer: if you're committed to building from source, I would do 'sudo apt-get build-dep vim' before continuing14:39
yeatsdr_willis: right - typo14:39
yeatscanterer: yes - I meant ~/.vimrc14:39
dr_willisI doubt if theres any major new vim features. :)14:39
yeats!pm | canterer14:40
ubottucanterer: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.14:40
like_summerhelp14:41
jjgalvez__amit: try looking at this https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=64832 to see if it helps14:41
dr_willislike_summer:  it helps to give details..14:42
like_summerits time to sleep14:42
like_summerdr_willis,  it does not help me14:43
cantererwhat is the mean of  PM?14:43
wakejagrcanterer: private message14:43
cantererah  I know14:44
tarzeaucanterer: dict PM will tell14:44
pw-toxichi, i'm missing workspaces on gnome3 on ubuntu ;(14:44
pw-toxichow can i reactivate it?14:44
tarzeaupw-toxic: you can use any other window manager?14:44
tarzeauwindowmaker has workspaces14:44
pw-toxictarzeau, gnome has none anymore?14:44
tarzeaui don't know. you really mean gnome3 or unity or gnome2?14:45
pw-toxici just did "apt-get install gnome" and chose "gnome" on startup14:45
BluesKaj!classic| Norwack14:45
ubottuNorwack: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. To switch back to regular !GNOME: log out, click your username, click the Session box at the bottom of the screen, and select "Ubuntu Classic". For 11.10, see !notunity14:45
pw-toxicso i guess i have gnome314:45
pw-toxici do not like unity14:45
tarzeaui also have a problem that unity is horribly slow, even with correct nvidia drivers. and with two monitors it's slower and with 3 monitors very very slow, 4 monitors so slow you can't work14:45
pw-toxicthere is no "connect to" application ;)14:45
ActionParsnippw-toxic: what do you want to connect to?14:46
tarzeaupw-toxic: neither do i. but then i don't like gnome either. and not kde14:46
pw-toxicActionParsnip, anything.. ftp ssh windows share.. just anything14:46
tarzeaupw-toxic: i'm glad when i get a terminal14:46
ActionParsnippw-toxic: its part of nautilus..14:46
pw-toxictarzeau, a terminal is nice, but not for every task ;)14:46
tarzeaupw-toxic: you want a mac or windows then. the connect to stuff never worked for me on linux14:46
ActionParsnippw-toxic: under the file menu14:46
tarzeaupw-toxic: i don't see an alternative on linux. no nautilus is plain junk14:47
tarzeauconsier having nfs drives, and say 10000 files. it's unusable14:47
pw-toxicwhatever ... im looking for workspaces ;)14:47
tarzeauhekc it's even unusable with only 1000 files14:47
pw-toxicdoes gnome3 have no workspaces anymore? i think i would have read about it14:47
tarzeauand here we have users with 1000000 files14:47
tarzeau(one user)14:47
ActionParsnippw-toxic: sure, you control how many in ccsm if you use unity (not 2d)14:47
pw-toxicActionParsnip, ah i forgot.. i have ccsm14:48
ActionParsniptarzeau: try pcmanfm, rox, dolphin, thunar or one of the MANY file managers...14:48
tarzeauActionParsnip: oh i know them, i tried them. i didn't like them14:48
ActionParsniptarzeau: if they work though yuo may have to14:48
tarzeauActionParsnip: all of them are slow, clumsy, and file open dialogs in gtk1, 2 and 3 are wrong bad and broken14:49
BluesKajActionParsnip, think we have a troll14:49
tarzeauActionParsnip: i'm perfectly fine with a terminal, thank you14:49
pw-toxicActionParsnip, i have enabled Desktop wall in ccsm but it doesnt work ;/14:49
pw-toxicActionParsnip, i relog with unit and try it there14:50
Firedognorpan: are you getting my pm?14:51
ActionParsniptarzeau: thats another option :)14:51
tarzeauActionParsnip: the only, imho14:51
ActionParsnippw-toxic: there is a key to show all the desktops and you can drag windows between easily14:51
ActionParsnippw-toxic: I only use one desktop so am not sure what it is but I'm sure it exists14:52
FiredogActionParsnip: sounds like a mac thing, was it MOD-E14:52
Firedogno, can't drag windows with Mod-E or Winkey-E14:53
Firedogbut you can with compiz cube14:54
ActionParsnippw-toxic: it's called expo, and as Firedog stated it's SuperL+E14:54
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pw-toxichmm moving workspaces works on unity ;/14:55
pw-toxicbt i want gnome ;(14:55
ActionParsnippw-toxic: you are using gnome14:55
Firedogdont we all14:55
pw-toxicActionParsnip, yes i am14:55
ActionParsnippw-toxic: unity is only a shell14:55
flexdArgh, what do I need to check if norwegian characters work fine as root but as a normal user it fails (I just get ???) characters.14:55
pw-toxicActionParsnip, whatever.. i chose gnome an logon and i want worksapces ;)14:55
flexdlocale is set to en_US.UTF-8 on both users14:56
pw-toxicActionParsnip, workspaces is the most reason why i use ubuntu ;)14:56
ActionParsnippw-toxic: you can use the expos plugin to show them14:56
ActionParsnippw-toxic: you can get equivelant functionality in windows14:56
dr_willisunity has workspaces.. actually ive seen tools for windows to give it workspaces...14:56
Firedogpw-toxic: workspaces are a function of desktop not OS so GNOME, KDE, XFCE all support them14:56
dr_willis:)14:56
dr_willisDoes OS-X have workspaces?14:57
pw-toxicFiredog, why does it then work on unity but not gnome?14:57
Firedogdr_willis: I beleive so14:57
pw-toxicFiredog, when i logon with gnome, my keyboard shortcuts "alt+q" and "alt+e" dont work to switch left and right14:57
dr_willisThe Cube thang has issues with unity i belive.. best to just stop using teh cube.14:57
norpanFiredog: i was doing some dishes, im sorry if i missed you. did not mean to be disrespectful :)14:58
ActionParsnipdo people still use the cube plugin...wow14:58
Firedogdr_willis: I love the cube so much I am stuck with gnome :P14:58
dr_willisI never saw the point in the cube...14:58
dr_willisget over it Firedog . :P14:58
dr_williscube. the kind of thing you enable to show off.. then disable when your windows using friends leave.14:58
ActionParsnipFiredog: I believe kde has desktop cube stuff too14:59
republicgood evening anyone! happy chatting!!!14:59
norpanrepublic: haha good evening to you to :P14:59
pw-toxicActionParsnip, ah good idea - i try out kde if my desktop wall works there14:59
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tomek_anyone uses solaris ?15:02
ActionParsniptomek_: try the solaris channel15:02
mahdi1364hi15:02
gxoptgmahdi1364, hi15:02
deej1976tomek_: dauble a little15:03
mahdi1364I have a problem in ubuntu 11.1015:03
deej1976tomek_: pm me15:03
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gxoptgmahdi1364, so tell about it15:04
vemens)15:04
mahdi1364when I login, the desktop wont load, just the terminal screen shows up15:04
cantereryeats> canterer: if you're committed to building from source, I would do 'sudo apt-get build-dep vim' before continuing   thanks  fun:)  my question is solved15:05
gxoptgvemens, hi15:05
ActionParsnipmahdi1364: what if you log in as another user?15:05
mahdi1364the same15:05
ActionParsnipmandi-kembang: what if you select the 2D unity?15:06
vemenshi gxoptg :)15:06
mahdi1364please help me15:07
pw-toxicActionParsnip, gnome3 only has up and down workspace switching, and i was trying to switch horizontally15:07
cipherboymahdi1364 we are...?15:07
gxoptgmandi1364, what if you select the 2D unity?15:07
cipherboymahdi1364 We have given you a few suggestions, why don't you try and post back?15:07
mahdi1364maybe this information helps u15:08
mahdi1364I uninstalled compiz and that's when this problem showed up15:09
homegrownI'm looking to migrate to subversion 1.7, but cannot find any official packages ... why so far behind?15:09
gxoptgmahdi1364, ubuntu 3d is based on Compis :) try to load Unity 2d15:10
mahdi1364how do I do that?15:10
mahdi1364I'm new to ubuntu15:10
Picihomegrown: Because we don't upgrade packages unless they are security fixes once an Ubuntu release has been finished.15:10
ActionParsnipmahdi1364: its an option when you log in15:11
dr_williswhy would you uninstall compiz when you are new to the whole os?15:11
Picihomegrown: And I don't see 1.7 even in debian yet or the in-development release of Ubuntu.  You could try looking for a PPA if you really need it though.15:11
blognewbhi everyone, i wanted to buy my mom an ubuntu laptop, can you guys suggest one that is worth around $300-$400? preferably with at least an i3?15:11
mahdi1364must have been a mistake, dont be mad:-/15:12
homegrownPici: Thanks, but it's going to be production, so I'd rather have it stable.... might have to stick to BSD for now then :-(15:12
mahdi1364thanks for ur help I gonna try 2D unity15:13
mahdi1364babye15:13
MonkeyDustblognewb  ask in #ubuntu-offtopic15:15
FiredogActionParsnip: belated, yes KDE can :)15:17
yeatscanterer: great! happy to help15:17
vikashrokkcan we install gnome 3.2 on ubuntu 10.1015:17
vikashrokk????15:17
tensorpuddingno15:18
yeatsvikashrokk: why not just upgrade to 11.10?15:18
tensorpuddingupgrade to 11.1015:18
vikashrokki upgraded but15:18
mandi-kembangActionParsnip: what are the advantages of 2D unity?15:18
dr_willisyou use is when you cant get 3d working mandi-kembang  :)15:18
vikashrokki hav another os ultimate edition which runs on 10.1015:18
tensorpuddingvikashrokk, then upgrade that too15:19
Firedogdr_willis: only I keep the cube there because it still makes me smile, and I can sneak a look at whats going on on other desktops before switching as they are live updated15:19
Firedogonly the taskbar is not updated15:20
vikashrokkbut then it will not support other oses which run with it like lubuntu and xcfe15:20
dr_willisthe whole desktop idea has sort of been getting revamped in gnome shell and unity.15:20
vikashrokkdr willis ..true man i loved gnome 315:21
vikashrokkhey anybody tell the best media manager for ubuntu15:22
dr_willisvikashrokk:  what kind of medis15:22
dr_willismedia15:22
Firedogdr_willis: I wish they would settle on a standard an quit changing it all the time so I can  stop re-learning stuff I already know how to do15:22
dr_willisFiredog:  then we would still be in the Win2.1 days....15:22
vikashrokki m looking for the one which easily gets album covers and organises media folders..i m talking about mp3s15:22
Firedogdr_willis: ah win2.1 :P no, not that old hehe15:23
dr_willisC64 Geos. :P15:23
Sidewinder1dr_willis, Or 3.11 workgroups. :-)15:23
MarkLukei need help with a wm 8650 ntablet i got from china15:23
vikashrokkwat is dis 3.11??15:23
andrew91831how do i install a pkg file in linux ?15:24
Firedogdr_willis: as a kid, 8 bit machines, yes but never bothered with windows 2!15:24
dr_willisandrew91831:  you mean a foo.deb file? or a foo.pkg ? or what excactly15:24
andrew91831a foo.pkg15:24
Sidewinder1vikashrokk, Just a snide comment; please disregard.15:24
dr_willisFiredog:  i used Vic-20 and other C= stuff.15:24
dr_willisandrew91831:  where did this come from? ubuntu stuff is normally .deb15:24
andrew91831oh im downloading node.js on linux15:25
andrew91831but i dont know how to install pkg ><15:25
MarkLukecan anybody help me with the wm8650 appmarketand flash problem15:25
Firedogdr_willis: vic20, that was basic, I saved an old Texas Instruments machine from silicon heaven a few years back. It's mint.15:25
andrew91831oh nevermind15:26
andrew91831haha, embarassing15:26
andrew91831i've got quicksynergy on and im using my linux box trying to install the mac version15:26
Firedogdr_willis: http://oldcomputers.net/pics/ticosbyad.jpg heheh15:27
remoteCTRLhi guys!15:28
vikashrokkhi15:28
chad-tarahello15:28
vikashrokkwad up remote ctrl15:28
remoteCTRLi got these ugly graphic artefacts when trying to use gnome3 can you pls tell me how to fix this?15:28
chad-taraIve got a question about my bootloader options if anyone can help. im pretty new to linux... :(15:28
ActionParsnipremoteCTRL: are you using any shells?15:29
remoteCTRLthe fonts in the "menu bar" are completely distorted...15:29
ActionParsnipchad-tara: shoot15:29
remoteCTRLActionParsnip: erm... gnome-sehll?15:29
remoteCTRLi hope?15:29
remoteCTRLActionParsnip: good to see you btw, hope all is fine?15:29
cari_veri_udhello, ubuntu 11.10 xorg.conf is very thin. almost no settings made in there. problem: secondary screen not detectable. what can I do?15:29
ActionParsnipremoteCTRL: looks like this? http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Screenshots15:30
ActionParsnipremoteCTRL: not bad, chillin at work15:30
chad-taraI have both 32 bit and 64 but 11.10 installed on my system. when I start up there are about 8 options to boot from. I know I shouldnt boot into recovery but which option is 64 and witch is 32?15:30
chad-tarais it the 3.0.0.12 or 3.0.0.13 or the PAE?15:30
remoteCTRLActionParsnip: i guess that is what it should look like, in my case i have the purple background, looking nomral and then the bar with the "action", clock, etc is grey instead of black and everything in it is totally distorted15:31
linda_chad-tara: I don't there's a difference other than kernel versions.  (Someone correct me if wrong.)15:31
ActionParsnipremoteCTRL: what if you press ALT+F2 and run:  gnome-shell --replace15:32
linda_chad-tara: Oh, well, you have a dual boot system?15:32
linda_Is that correct?15:32
chad-tara\yeah15:32
FiredogremoteCTRL: I saw a car once and thought it had been in an accident, turns out that was the way it was "designed" to look15:33
chad-taraI installed both 64bit and 32 bit versions15:33
tamayohola15:33
imbezolbonjour15:33
chad-tarawhich kernel comes with what relese? i never installed a custom kernel15:33
linda_chad-tara: We would have to see the exact names of the 8 options before we can tell anything about it.15:34
chad-taraubuntu 3.0.0.12 (both normal and recovery)15:35
chad-taraubuntu 3.0.0.12 (both normal and recovery)15:35
chad-tarai mean *.1315:35
linda_chad-tara: Or someone that has a stock 64bit system may be able to give you their kernel version, but may very well be that the version numbers are same.15:35
chad-taraand then the two PEA options15:36
chad-tara*PAE15:36
fm__PAE is 32 bit15:36
chad-tarai figured that out. thats the server kernel that lets me use all 4 gigs or ram?15:37
remoteCTRLActionParsnip: erm... looking even worse now15:37
cygnusnsfHi, all any body aware of install instructions for a EPSON SX435W Printer on UBUNTU 10.04 LTS? I can see the printer but just only ever finds a sx415 driver and does not work properly15:37
goshawkhi15:37
remoteCTRLand the worst thing about is; this is definitely NOT the first device that does that to me!15:37
linda_chad-tara: They will all lst you use all 4G of RAM15:37
goshawki can't connect to facebook via empathy, does anyone have the same problem?15:38
remoteCTRLActionParsnip: btw alt+f2 doenst work at all...15:38
remoteCTRLgoshawk: be happy about it!15:38
chad-tarais it better for me to just install the 64 bit version? I dont use alot of apps. mostly internet movies and music15:38
cipherboyremoteCTRL++15:38
remoteCTRLgoshawk: farcebook sells your data to government organisations!15:38
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remoteCTRLchad-tara: not much difference nowadays there15:39
Pici!ot15:39
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:39
Norwackjoin #UbuntuPorn15:39
Firedogchad-tara: in linux chose 64 bit if you have a 64 bit CPU15:39
linda_chad-tara: YOu dreally didn't need to install 32bit version alongside the 64bit version.  All you need to do is install 32bit libs on the 64bit version and you can run all the 32bit apps you want.15:39
chad-taraany downside to running 32 bit on 64 bit system? Am I wasting resources15:40
maoI set the CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV "converse" when compile the kernel,but after I boot the ubuntu,the cpu freq default govener becomes "ondemand", and i cannont find which process change it15:40
cipherboynorwack you need more peoples15:40
maoAnyone knows why?15:40
Firedogchad-tara: yes, 64 bit performs better on 64 bit CPU15:40
cipherboyFiredog can 64bit even run on 32 bit processor?15:40
chad-tarathanks... gonna just start fresh and install only the 64 bit15:41
Firedogcipherboy: no 64 bit will not run on 32 bit CPU15:41
linda_chad-tara: I think the command is   apt-get install ia32-libs15:42
chad-tarathanks (:15:42
Firedogbut 32 bit will run on 64 bit CPU which is the converse to my argument, not the other-way-round15:42
dr_willisi basically only use 64bit os on my 64bit hardware these days15:42
frankperez87Has anyone installed uplink on ubuntu 11.10 using the .sh file15:42
remoteCTRLActionParsnip: phunny thing is: at the login screen all looks perfectly normal but as soon as i am logged in all looks broken15:42
chad-taraso everyone agrees I will get a bit better performance from my machine if I give up the 32bit and just use the 64 bit?15:42
Firedogdr_willis: is right, there is no need for 32 bit except in windows15:43
dr_willisuse 64bit os on 64bit hardware....15:43
Firedog^^ what he said15:43
chad-tarathanks guys! you're all AWESOME15:43
linda_chad-tara:  YOu don't have to start over, just use the 64bit15:43
chad-taraI feel so lost. I havent used Linux since Dapper Drake15:43
Firedogahh dapper drake :P15:44
chad-taraanyway to just erase the 32 bit system?15:44
dr_willisdelete the partitions :)15:44
Firedoginstall windows??15:44
Firedogjoking15:44
chad-tarathats it? cool. then reformat?15:44
linda_chad-tara: You can use a partition manager to delete or shrink the 32bit partition(s).15:45
chad-taraI just left windows cause it was freezing ALL THE TIME15:45
bekkschad-tara: "man rm"15:45
chad-tarathanks linda15:45
linda_I didn't know windows was that cold....15:45
chad-tarasuper cold...15:45
Firedogchad-tara: what linda says about partition manager, may save you some time15:45
mahdi1364hi15:45
mahdi1364i'm back again15:46
chad-taraalways f****d me and never smiled...15:46
linda_chad-tara: Which did you install first?  64bit or 32bit?15:46
chad-tara32 bit...15:46
mahdi1364I just wanted to thank u for ur help15:46
mahdi1364can I ask one more question?15:46
chad-taracause its "recommended" on the website :/15:46
oCeanchad-tara: please mind your language. If you have to obfuscate your words, then don't use them.15:47
chad-tarak. i didnt know a more appropriate word15:47
linda_chad-tara: I would just shrink the 32bit partition(s) down to just a few megabytes.15:47
xorrbitis there a way to allow a user to configure network interfaces, ie run ifconfig and ip commands, without sudo-ing them?15:47
greveshello - I've just bought a new computer and will install windows 7 on it, but i'd like to dual boot ubuntu. i have a 1GB drive and will MAINLY use windows 7, what would be a good partition scheme for me?15:47
Firedogchad-tara: the website reccommends it becasue 32 bit will work on 64 bit and 32 bit Hardware, 64 bit will only work on 64 bit hardware and above? presuming there is one15:47
linda_chad-tara: That way, you don't have to change the partitioning IDs on your 64bit system.15:48
Firedogand here's the smile :)15:48
cygnusnsfchad-tara maybe a alternate word could be windows "gated" you?????15:48
ActionParsnipmahdi1364: ask away, no need to ask15:48
mahdi1364ok15:48
mahdi1364look15:49
mahdi1364I've got a HSPAData Card USB modem15:49
linda_mahdi1364: What ActionParsnip is trying to say is, don't ask to ask, just ask.15:49
mahdi1364is there an application so that I can send and recieve call and sms in ubuntu?15:50
grevesanyone have any suggestions? is it easy enough to just use win7 partition as most of the drive and then any big files i'm downloading in ubuntu to save&run from windows partition?15:50
linda_mahdi1364: sms is just email.15:50
MonkeyDustmahdi1364  gammu15:50
linda_mahdi1364: but I don't know what you mean about "send and receive call"15:51
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Firedoglinda_: is sms just email? I thought it was Short Messaging Service used by cellular networks to mobile devices under the GSM suite of protocols15:52
linda_mahdi1364: Are you talking about VOIP?   If so, skype, for instance, will call and receive calls and send SMS to cell phones. (But again, any email client can send sms txt to cell phones.)15:52
mahdi1364I've got gammu but it only recognizes phones not my HSPAData card15:52
linda_mahdi1364: There is also google-talk15:52
broglini'm having trouble getting my ethernet card to work properly. currently ping drops lots of packets. It's a realtek rtl8111/8168b on the motherboard and I have changed the driver to the realtek on, but that didn't help15:52
broglinany ideas on what to try?15:53
broglinthe main problem is that it's very very very slow at the moment15:53
Firedogbroglin: there is a chance that the "card" is broken15:53
broglinFiredog: true15:53
Firedogbroglin: I had the same issue with a 3com card and replaced it like for like and the new one worked15:54
broglinFiredog: i'm not sure how i'd test that though...15:54
mahdi1364I'm a bit confused15:54
Firedogit would work but lots of dropouts15:54
ActionParsnipmahdi1364: how does it connect to the system?15:54
mahdi1364Action Parsnip:by USB15:54
ActionParsnipbroglin: try disabling ipv6 if you don't use it, also try a different cable15:54
Firedogbroglin: boot another OS which should work like windows, does it work there?15:55
mahdi1364Ita a 3g usb modem15:55
ActionParsnipmahdi1364: then run:  lsusb   one line will identify the device and you can use the 8 character hex ID to find guides15:55
mahdi1364ok15:55
mahdi1364thanks15:55
anonf15:55
anons15:56
Firedogbroglin: extending ActionParsnip's logic, check the port at the other end too15:56
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Frankzinbuhhey guys, is there a web developer channel here somewhere?15:56
FiredogOn IRC? I can almost guarantee it15:57
Frankzinbuhon this irc15:57
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keyboardis where heroes3 for linux?15:58
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remoteCTRLActionParsnip: i guess youre also out of ideas?15:59
keyboardhi every one...15:59
Firedogkeyboard: Hi Dr Nick15:59
keyboardFiredog, :)is where a heroes3 for linux?16:00
Firedoggood question if somewhat cryptic.16:01
Firedogkeyboard: I do not know what heroes3 is.16:01
linda_Frankzinbuh: Are you interested in a CMS16:01
linda_?16:01
jimmysparklehey all - I'm using vmware fusion and I've added a couple of network adapters to my vm, how do I get them working and enable them in ubuntu server?16:01
keyboardFiredog, heroes3 is game16:02
Firedogkeyboard: have you tried linuxgames?16:02
goshawkremoteCTRL, i asked a different thing16:02
keyboardFiredog, no,for windows game...16:02
cantererwhat is mean  like this  with ubuntu ---->  -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1772412 2011-11-25 23:36 vim*16:03
Firedogkeyboard: if it is a windows game then the wine database winedb may help16:03
keyboardFiredog, i find a heroes3 for linux ..16:03
canterervim*16:03
canterer'*' is what  ?16:03
keyboardFiredog, but....i not like wine...16:03
linda_canterer: It means that the owner has read write and executable permissions, other users have read ahd executable permissons.16:03
linda_*and not ahd16:04
Sidewinder1What program do I need to download/install, in order to read a file in root (/var/log_, named 'wtmp'? Or will System-->Administration-->Log File Viewer, do the trick? TIA..16:04
canterernot the permissons   I want to kown the '*'16:04
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canterervim*16:04
Firedogkeyboard: http://www.lokigames.com/products/heroes3/16:04
linda_canterer: You want to know what vim is?16:05
canterer*16:05
Firedoggoogle is your fiend :P16:05
deej1976!info vim16:05
ubottuvim (source: vim): Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor. In component main, is optional. Version 2:7.3.154+hg~74503f6ee649-2ubuntu3 (oneiric), package size 944 kB, installed size 1900 kB16:05
linda_canterer: vim is a text editor16:05
deej1976!info vi16:05
ubottuPackage vi does not exist in oneiric16:05
harrryyyi like cake.16:06
Firedognice16:06
linda_canterer: vim is a text editor specially geared for programmers. It's good for html and lots of uses, it's ok for regular text files too.16:06
harrryyycake > linux16:06
keyboardFiredog, tks a lot...:)16:06
oCeanharrryyy: please stay on topic16:06
Firedogkeyboard: wine is awesome btw16:06
linda_!info vim16:07
ubottuvim (source: vim): Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor. In component main, is optional. Version 2:7.3.154+hg~74503f6ee649-2ubuntu3 (oneiric), package size 944 kB, installed size 1900 kB16:07
cantererthanks  but I want to kown about vim* but not vim16:07
genii-aroundSidewinder1: last -f /var/log/wtmp16:07
canterercrw-rw----   1 root tty       7, 132 2011-11-25 10:10 vcsa416:08
linda_canterer: If vim is a file on your computer you can investigate for yourself.  First do  file vim16:08
cantererlike this16:08
zjhuihello everyone , what do i need to do if want to downgrade the system?16:08
canterervcsa4  is not vcsa4*16:08
soreauFrankzinbuh: #html, #css, #javascript, #php, $jquery, etc.16:08
linda_canterer: The command file will determine the file type.16:08
soreauhmm.. a little late16:08
MonkeyDust!downgrade| zjhui16:09
ubottuzjhui: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system.16:09
linda_canterer: file vsca416:09
canterervim ?16:09
linda_canterer: file vim16:10
cantereris a command16:10
Sidewinder1genii-around, Many tanks; will try..16:10
linda_canterer: which vim16:10
cantererbut vim* and vsca416:10
zjhuiubottu: but i think we can use some methord to downgrade the system also it has some risks16:10
ubottuzjhui: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:10
linda_canterer: See my pm16:11
Firedogzjhui: it is possible in some cases but a reinstall would be most sensible to prevent issues16:11
broglinFiredog: thanks, it was the other end :)16:11
Firedoghehe16:11
Firedogwin16:11
Firedog:)16:11
ronaldhey friends :)16:12
ronaldDoes anyone in here still use dial up bbses?16:12
zykotick9__zjhui, FYI apt does not deal with downgrading very well (sometimes not at all) - reinstalling is only "supported" method to "downgrade"16:12
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broglinanother problem: about half the time when i boot up, i don't get the graphical login screen. sometimes sudo lightdm restart solves it, but sometimes not16:12
Firedogronald: really? in 2011?16:12
Sidewinder1genii-around, Worked like a charm; you, truly, are a gentleman and a scholar.. :D16:12
genii-aroundSidewinder1: You flatter me. But glad to assist.16:13
ronaldYes really in 201116:13
broglin(I have to log in on a VT and run sudo lightdm restart from there)16:13
zjhuiFiredog: hmm..i know, but i just want to have a try , and i don't have a clear method to deal it16:13
Firedogbroglin: is there any correlation between cold and warm boots and this behaviour?16:13
peteslaptopHello everyone.. Looking for some help installing a printer16:14
peteslaptopHaving a very hard time16:14
jrib!print | peteslaptop16:14
ubottupeteslaptop: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows16:14
broglinFiredog: not that I've detected16:14
peteslaptopWell..I've been there. Here's my problem. I downloaded the 'cupswrapper' from brother. I've double clicked it to install, no dice16:15
Firedogzjhui: I would suggest making sure you have a backup of all important files, yadda yadda then following the logic of manual upgrade, start with changing the apt-sources down to older version sources16:15
jribpeteslaptop: why are you downloading things?  What's the first thing you tried?16:15
peteslaptopI extracted the files to look for the .ppd file that it seems to be asking for.. no good either16:15
Firedogbroglin: if it is a quirk you could add your sudo lightdm restart to the user startup scripts16:16
peteslaptopI tried to install it the 'normal' way and my printer isn't listed16:16
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Firedogbroglin: or just sudo lightdm start16:16
zjhuiFiredog: ok , thank you16:16
jribpeteslaptop: what is the 'normal' way?16:16
jrib!who | peteslaptop16:16
ubottupeteslaptop: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)16:16
peteslaptopMenu on the upper right corner. My computer sees my printer, no driver to install16:17
Firedogzjhui: then I would propose using dpkg downgrade on core system packages, this should cause a chain reaction16:17
Firedogzjhui: but it might just break16:17
jribpeteslaptop: is the printer connected directly to the computer or is it on the network?16:18
peteslaptop!jrib It's on my home network16:18
ubottupeteslaptop: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:18
Firedogronald: I think not, it's been a long time since they were active, even gopher is dead16:19
Sidewinder1zjhui, As stated above, back-up all essential data files, then, the simplest method, IMHO, would be to fresh install the version of your choice; "downgrading" is beyond problematic; again, IMHO.. Good luck!16:19
jribpeteslaptop: no need for the '!'16:19
jribpeteslaptop: what printer is this?16:19
FiredogSidewinder1: its gonna break16:19
peteslaptopOK.. I'm new to this so you'll have to excuse me ignorance on how his thing works16:19
mang0The terminal based irc client is called ircii right?16:19
ShinyDarknessHello. One question: Is there any way to remotely install Ubuntu on a machine?16:20
jribmang0: weechat and irssi are more popular ones16:20
MonkeyDustirssi rules16:20
jrib!install | ShinyDarkness16:20
ubottuShinyDarkness: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate16:20
mang0jrib: irssi, that's the one I was thinking of. Ty16:20
peteslaptopjrib: was reading above ubottu.. sorry16:20
mezodhi, i'm installing the last ubuntu but i am stucked where i have to give the username and computer name. It says everything is ready but i can't press "continue". Is it normal that it takes around 30 or more min here?16:20
zjhuiSidewinder1: yes, thank you for your advice16:20
peteslaptopjirb: the printer is a HL-2280DW16:21
jribmezod: did you checksum the cd?16:21
peteslaptopjrib: Brother16:21
babinlonstoncan i install windows software such as microsoft office ,yahoo messenger , google talk, in ubuntu is it possible ?16:21
mang0!wine | babinlonston16:21
ubottubabinlonston: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu16:21
mezodjrib no16:21
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Firedogbablinlonston: yes, and its good. as mang0 suggested wine is win16:22
mang0babinlonston: WINE can run some (most) windows programs. Some work flawlessley, some not so good.16:22
ronaldWell I have a list of a few dial up BBses that are still active if anyone is interested.16:22
jribmezod: you should do so16:22
jrib!ot | ronald16:22
ubotturonald: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:22
mezodjrib what is it and when should i do that?16:22
jrib!wine | babinlonston16:22
ubottubabinlonston: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu16:22
Firedogbablionston: also wine has a database with rankings to show how well things will work16:22
babinlonstonkk16:22
jribmezod: before installing you should select "check the cd for defects"16:22
mang0bobslaede: http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=app.db&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCIQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fappdb.winehq.org%2F&ei=1sDPTsmnC8PX8QOQ9rX1Dw&usg=AFQjCNGkDI5hX0oyO91fsJqS-d2L368mBQ&sig2=DmdafT6B_ypfYmaD4HW3yg16:23
jrib!verify | mezod16:23
ubottumezod: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows16:23
Sidewinder1Firedog, Yes, but I think, as long as all irreplaceable data files are stored somewhere else, it may be the "easiest way", but again 'easiest' and successful are sometimes mutually exclusive..16:23
jribpeteslaptop: can you link me to where you downloaded files from brother's site?16:23
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woody_this isnt server related but was wondering about mounting a usb "dev/sda1" ...its not recognized in etc/fstab ?16:24
woody_notebook has no hard drive live usb16:24
FiredogSidewinder1: on a purely logical level, if something is unsuccessful then it cannot be easiest its like using string instead of wires. its cheaper but it doesn't work16:24
Firedog:P16:24
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mezodjrib so this is not normal, isn't it? jow should i proceed, can i just stop the installation?16:25
mezodhow*16:25
FiredogSidewinder1: I joke, and agree, its a bad idea to downgrade as it will just break. Almost guaranteed, usually libc16:25
hrolfHow can I know what updates are being installed? Like Update Manager offers me to check and uncheck the items but how do I know the versions etc? The changes? Changelog or anything of that sort.16:25
peteslaptopjrib: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html16:26
hrolfLike I get an item "Safe and easy web browser from Mozilla" What the heck do I deduce from that?16:26
jribmezod: if you filled in all of the information and it doesn't provide you the option to continue, I do not believe it is normal, correct.  I would cancel the install, then checksum the cd and proced from there16:26
hrolfWhat version is it?16:26
Firedoghrolf: firefox16:26
jribpeteslaptop: and then hl-2280dw?16:26
bfrican anyone help me with my hdmi out to a tv monitor?16:26
peteslaptopjrip: Yup.16:26
fouad_hey guys16:26
jribpeteslaptop: ok, and what happens when you attempt to install it by double clicking?16:26
zykotick9__mezod, are you trying to use capital letter or special characters in the username field?16:27
hrolfFiredog: :(16:27
mezodno16:27
hrolfFiredog: There's description right down16:27
fouad_is anyone experienced with php qr code generation on ubuntu?16:27
hrolfFiredog: I missed it :p16:27
peteslaptopjrib: it seems to run, but nothing happens16:27
dfgashow do i create a swap file and use it?16:27
mezodzykotick9__ i have a green V next to each field16:27
cbirdbfri: i might be able to help, i've connected my laptop to monitor via HDMI and it worked ok.16:27
jribfouad_: why would it be special on ubuntu?  Isn't ##php more appropriate?16:27
Firedoghrolf: you sorted?16:27
linda_dfgas: You more-than-likely already have a swap partition16:27
cipherboyQuick web devel question.16:27
jribpeteslaptop: why does it seem to run?16:27
fouad_haha i just realized that16:27
dfgaslinda_, no, i don't16:28
jrib!swap | dfgas16:28
ubottudfgas: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info16:28
linda_dfgas: sudo fdisk -l | pastebilnit16:28
cipherboyAnyone here do web development?16:28
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andrew91831yeah16:28
sipiorcipherboy: not really the appropriate channel for that sort of thing.16:28
linda_dfgas: sudo fdisk -l | pastebilnit  #Show is the resulting URL16:28
jribdfgas: but yes do what linda_ asks first to check if you already have a swap partition16:28
bfricbird great what do you think, i did a "detect monitor" and nothing16:28
peteslaptopjrib: hold on for a sec, there is another app that opens, then there is a button to 'install' which I clicked16:28
soreaucipherboy: Try #html, #css, #javascript, #php, #jquery, or whatever channel suits your question16:29
jribpeteslaptop: yes16:29
linda_dfgas: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit  #Show is the resulting URL16:29
linda_Sorry first one was a typo16:29
dfgasi manually set partitions, i do not have a swap partition16:29
linda_dfgas: But if you did it anyway, just do  pstebinit pastebilnit16:29
cbirdbfri: just for checkings sake, was the av on the monitor set to the right hdmi channel? I found i had to manually change mine16:29
mezodjrib zykotick9__ it happens when i choose not to use a password, otherwise i can proceed16:29
cipherboysoreau: sorry, joined #html16:29
linda_pastebinit pastebilnit   #Sorry, another typo16:30
bfricbird yes16:30
jribmezod: right, I don't think you can choose a blank password by default.  You probably need to change some pam settings after install to do that16:30
bfricbird i tried both16:30
dfgasnvm, i will figure it out on my own16:30
linda_dfgas: Ok then16:30
jribdfgas: ubottu's link already gave you instructions16:30
linda_dfgas: I would suggest using a non-destructive partition manager and create a swap partition.16:31
cbirdbfri: so it didnt even pick it up as being connected, after the detect monitor?16:31
bfricbird correct16:31
linda_dfgas: But, why don't you show us what you have now? (If you do, we can give you more specific advise.)16:32
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cbirdbfri: got a tv with hdmi that you can try? just for checking16:33
bfricbird yes16:33
bfriim connected to a vizio16:33
Firedogodd, I have an 8GB swap partition, I once used it all up too and crashed :( that's because wireshark is not optimised well to extract multi GB streams from captured packet data16:33
bekksFiredog: Erm, define "not well optimized" - if you have a source file and you want to associate zillion of content snippets with each other, you need at least the size of the "multi-gigabyte data stream" as additional space.16:35
bekksYou cannot optimize something at that point.16:35
cbirdbfri: found the following: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HDMI16:36
Firedogbekks: that the source file is on disk and the target was also disk so wireshark tried to load it all to ram and then keep the new copy in ram until done then write to disk instead of filtering and writing on the fly.16:36
bekksFiredog: As I said, thats not possible...16:36
cbirdbfri: has a couple of commands that can check whether the hdmi is picking anything up16:37
Firedogbekks: it was a single upd stream so not jumping here and their with the snippets16:37
bekksFiredog: "a single data stream" does not necessarily mean that all containing data is in some sort of order already.16:37
Firedogbekks: true, but it was16:38
bekksI doubt it :)16:38
meadhikariHow would I build a cron job to run a remote script through ssh?16:38
Firedog:P16:38
cbirdbfri: what model is your graphics card?16:38
ollij #ubuntu-meeting16:38
olliarg16:38
linda_meadhikari: crontab -e16:38
bfricbird how do i find that out16:39
Firedogbekks: it was an mpeg transport stream and I was playing with capturing iptv for a hack, this was the point I could not get around without investing in lots of ram16:39
huamm_hello , anyone can help me about | how to make shortcut on desktop lxde?16:39
linda_meadhikari: But just build the script and put it where ever you want, (unless it's just a one-liner, in which case just type it in as a cronjob command).16:39
meadhikarilinda_,  i mean, i need to ssh to the remote computer and run the script there16:39
cipherboy_locRefresh my memory on how to get kernels to update through cli?16:39
cipherboy_loc*upgrade not update16:39
ActionParsnipmeadhikari: command would be: ssh user@server 'command'16:39
linda_meadhikari: Put the script on the other computer.  Right?16:39
meadhikarilinda_, yes16:40
Firedogcipherboy_loc: using apt?16:40
cipherboy_locFiredog, yep16:40
ActionParsnipmeadhikari: you keep the quotes in, e.g: ssh user@server01 'df -h'16:40
linda_meadhikari: In that case it would just be:  "ssh remote@remote-ip sh script.sh16:40
meadhikariActionParsnip, what about the password?16:40
cbirdbfri: System Settings > System Overview > Graphics16:41
ActionParsnipmeadhikari: you would need to type it, if you setup key authentication then it won't be needed16:41
cipherboy_locFiredog, when ever I get around to upgrading I always have a kernel upgrade and like 100 other packages. The other packages get pulled in but not the new kernel.16:41
peteslaptopjrib: I double clicked the cupswrapper.deb and the Ubuntu Software Center came up. It stopped responding16:41
cbirdbfri: you may need to download the proprietry drivers for your graphics card to make it work16:41
linda_meadhikari: Get it?16:41
meadhikariActionParsnip, how would i prevent from every time typing the password16:41
ActionParsnippeteslaptop: install in terminal will probably be easier16:41
bfricbird i cant find System Settings > System Overview > Graphics16:42
ActionParsnipmeadhikari: use ssh keys, like I said earier16:42
ActionParsnip*earlier16:42
cipherboy_locmeadhikari use ssh keys16:42
cipherboy_locmeh, late. :P16:42
Firedogcipherboy_loc: "apt-get update; apt-get upgrade" for all packages16:42
peteslaptopjrib: having trouble with that as well. I'm very new to this16:42
meadhikarithanks all, thank you for your time16:42
meadhikari:)16:42
cipherboy_locFiredog: I get that. but it always says "The following packages have been kept back:   linux-generic-pae linux-headers-generic linux-headers-generic-pae   linux-image-generic-pae"16:42
Firedogcipherboy_loc: "apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade16:43
peteslaptopjrib: I've tried a number of commands with no success16:43
cbirdbfri: Sorry in System Settings open  System Info in the section on left is Graphics, my bad.16:43
bfricbird you lost me16:43
cipherboy_locFiredog, that works, ty.16:43
Firedognp :)16:43
cipherboy_locNow to apply the browser update. :P16:43
bfricbird again where are system settings and system info?16:44
cbirdbfri: what os version are you on?16:44
bfri10.0416:45
peteslaptopjrib: Still with me?16:45
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zjhuihello , when i use the command : service networking restart . it comes the error : " restart: Unknown instance: " , i have checked my interface and resolv.conf file , both are right , did any one know why this comes?16:47
bekkszjhui: sudo service networking restart16:48
love4linuxhello.. I upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 and the login menu provides only the ubuntu 3d and 2d desktops...how can use the no-effect simple gnome desktop?16:48
zjhuibekks:  i'm also use this command16:48
bekkslove4linux: There is no "no effect simple gnome desktop" anymore in 11.1016:49
Firedogbekks: btw it was 2.5GB capture and I had 4GB ram and 8 GB swap and still ran out, I expected to double it (just under) but wireshark wanted more ram than 12GB16:49
cbirdbfri: ok, sorry i was assuming on unity, doh! you could open a terminal, sudo apt-get install hwinfo16:49
Firedogthats not too optimised imo16:49
Night-hackshow do you gather information when you are on a server which you know nothing about !! ? uname -a doesn't says much16:49
peteslaptopFolks, trying to installl a Brother HL2280DW16:49
cbirdbfri: installs hwinfo, then run hwinfo | more from terminal16:49
bekksNight-hacks: What does it say then?16:49
bfricbird16:49
peteslaptopI have the cupswrapper.deb file and have double clicked it to no avail16:50
Night-hacksbekks: doesn't implies to any distro16:50
bekksNight-hacks: What does it say...?16:50
oCeanNight-hacks: try lsb_release -a16:50
cbirdbfri: you can then go to System > Administration > Additional Drivers, you might find a proprietry driver for your graphics card in there16:50
bfricbird i dont know how to run things from my terminal16:50
bfriwhat is the command16:50
Night-hacksbekks: just name the pc, time and other staff.16:51
Night-hacksbekks: i don't have access to it right now16:52
cbirdbfri: ok, open a Terminal, find in your applications list, then type: sudo apt-get install hwinfo16:52
cbirdbfri: you'll have to type your admin password16:52
bfricbird16:52
bekksNight-hacks: Then all support is useless at this point...16:52
bfricbird i did that i just dont know how to run it from the terminal16:52
bfricbird what is the command to run16:52
Night-hacksoCean: does that works in all distros ?16:52
cbirdbfri: ah sorry. Should just have to type: hwinfo | more16:52
oCeanNight-hacks: nope, but this is ubuntu support.16:53
peteslaptopI am in the terminal, not sure how to get this software to install whatever drivers are needed to add the printer. Anyone have any experience in this area?16:53
bfricbird ok done16:53
Night-hacksoCean: what if they have other distros ? any linux standard way ?16:53
sardiorhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/749447/16:53
bekksNight-hacks: No.16:53
bfricbird what should i look for in here?16:53
cbirddoes it give you a graphics card model in there somewhere, prob have to scroll through a bit16:53
jribpeteslaptop: install it with dpkg in a terminal16:54
Night-hacksoCean, bekks : tnx for helps16:54
oCeanNight-hacks: lsb should be a standard (Linux Standard Base) but no all comply. See /etc directory. There might be /etc/lsb-release file or /etc/redhat-release etc16:54
gxoptgubuntu.ru is not available...16:54
peteslaptopjrib: tried that one. Not sure why it didn't work16:54
a34154ekhey, anyone running 11.10 oneric ocelot?16:55
Joniianyone know any application that would tell me what codecs does .mkv file use16:55
MonkeyDust!anyone16:55
ubottuA high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.16:55
sardiorhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/749447/16:55
jribpeteslaptop: say what did happen (using a pastebin) not just that it did not work16:56
pikaciumatrioska16:56
Firedogbekks: also, not to labour the point but wireshark ppl recognise this issue: http://wiki.wireshark.org/KnownBugs/OutOfMemory16:56
peteslaptopjrib: what's a pastebin? I'm really new16:56
pikaciuJonii: install vlc16:56
Firedogpeteslaptop: its a web service to dump text16:56
Firedogpeteslaptop: like a shared clipboard16:57
s_p_or_t_oJonii: do you mean what codecs you need or what codecs should you select?16:57
Firedogpeteslaptop: but the whole world can see it16:57
bfricbird i opened a private chat can you see it?16:57
jrib!pastebin | peteslaptop16:57
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Firedogpeteslaptop: so probably not best to leave your bank account details and password on there in case you forget them16:58
drewsearcyCan someone help me figure out how fix something that is reported as fixed? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifupdown/+bug/876829 The last post says a fix was released but i dont see it anywhere?!16:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 876829 in ifupdown (Ubuntu Precise) "Oneiric's ifupdown breaks ip aliases" [High,Triaged]16:58
jribdrewsearcy: that's in debian16:58
drewsearcyjrib: Im using Ubuntu 11.10, does that mean there isnt a fix that will work for Ubuntu?16:59
sardiornetwork printer worked before, now with latest update quit... http://paste.ubuntu.com/749447/17:00
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nippurciao17:03
nippur!list17:04
ubottuThis is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».17:04
Gentoo64ciao17:04
Gentoo64!list17:04
dr_willislost...17:04
sardiorgone...17:05
jxmhi, how can i install a previous version of a program?17:06
Northwoodshi , i have problem with my hard disk , and i'm using live cd run , is it possible to do low level format just to mark out any bad sectors17:07
ActionParsnipNorthwoods: you can use dd to echo zeros to the drive from start to finish17:08
ActionParsnipNorthwoods: or use dban17:08
ActionParsnipNorthwoods: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-security-4/need-a-hard-drive-scrubber-363951/17:09
Odaymhow can I tar multiple folders?17:11
Odaymcreate a tar.gz archive of 10 folders in a directory, for example17:11
Odaymisn't it "tar -xzvf folder1/ folder2/ folder3/"?17:11
llutzOdaym: tar cf foo.tar dir1 dir2 dir317:11
Odaymoh sorry I meant a tar.gz archive for every folder of those 1017:12
elb0wWhy does this new install say could not open a connection to your authentication agent17:12
elb0w?17:12
Odaymdo I have to execute the above command 10 times?17:12
bekksfor i in a b c; do tar cvzf $i.tar $i/; done17:12
llutzOdaym: tar "x" extract, "c" create17:12
luca_bihow can I convert a pdf in a file csv?17:13
luca_biI need CSV files17:13
bekksluca_bi: You cant, Just copy and paste the content.17:13
luca_biyou cannot copy a pdf file17:14
luca_bihow can you copy it?17:14
llutzluca_bi: pdftotext -> file, some awk -> .csv17:14
luca_biCan you convert a pdf in a doc and a doc in a csv?17:15
pikaciuluca_bi: it's protected ?17:15
luca_bithey are cannered17:16
luca_biscannered17:16
pikaciu:#17:16
luca_biYou cannot convert them in a pdf17:16
bekksThen you cant extract the text, because it is a graphic inside.17:16
llutzluca_bi: get an OCR soft to make text of your pdf17:17
luca_biOCR soft?17:17
llutzOptical Character Recognition17:17
pikaciuluca_bi: usually given with the scanner drivers17:18
cipherboyDoesn't txt2pdf work?17:18
llutzcipherboy: to make txt from pdf? unlikely17:18
cipherboyGive me a moment to find the command..17:18
luca_biCan you convert this kind of file?17:18
bekksluca_bi: Using a OCR program, yes.17:19
luca_biwhat is a OCR program?17:19
bekksA program given with you scanning device that recognizes characters optically and converts them into text.17:19
luca_biAre there on ubuntu?17:19
linociscohow to use xchat with #ubuntu channel ?17:19
rumpe1luca_bi, ocr=optical character recognition17:20
cipherboywould pstotext work?17:20
bekkslinocisco: Just join the channel.17:20
llutzcipherboy: to make txt _from_  a pdf, containing images not text?17:20
cipherboy(sorry, forgot the name of the command first time around).17:20
cipherboyOh,images.17:20
bekkscipherboy: For converting a pdf into text - no.17:20
linociscoI was never successful using with X chat. that is why I always have to use webchat17:20
cipherboymissed that part, sorry.17:20
soreaugoogle docs might be able to17:20
pikaciuluca_bi: type ocr in synaptic17:21
linociscomy internet at work need authentication to use internet. but I put that user name and password. but not connected17:21
bekkssoreau: No. They dont have a OCR component.17:21
dawid__lp17:21
linociscocan I test if my office network block X chat or that protocol ?17:21
NorthwoodsActionParsnip: thanks, currently running [dd] .. no visual indication on the terminal window though, the HDD indicator seems blinking fast .. hoping it is [dd]17:21
luca_biI try on software centre?17:21
soreaubekks: When I open a pdf image from gmail, it opens in a page where I can highlight text and paste it at least17:22
pikaciuluca_bi: ocrad17:22
* Northwoods trying to do low level format17:22
bekkssoreau: Thats a simple pdf viewing component. And did you try that with scanned text already?17:22
llutzluca_bi: cuneiform, tessaract17:22
soreaubekks: yes, that's why I said pdf image doc17:22
luca_biI found ocrad17:22
luca_biI'm installing it17:23
Northwoodsluca_bi: any idea if  dd is right way ( writing zeros to disk ) ?17:23
luca_biis it sufficient to convert a pdf in a doc?17:23
pikaciuluca_bi: let's find out :)17:23
soreauNorthwoods: yes17:24
luca_bicuneiform, tessaract?17:24
luca_biwhat are they?17:24
llutzluca_bi: linuc ocr-soft17:24
llutzlinux17:24
luca_biI'm installing cuneiform17:25
luca_bido you need also tessaract?17:25
mezodhow can i stop having to put my password every time the comp hibernates?17:26
Northwoodssoreau: what does exactly writing zeros to disk mean ?17:26
bekksluca_bi: Just try the three apps.17:26
luca_biIs there a gui?17:26
soreauNorthwoods: hard drives have binary units that are written to magnetically with representations of 0's or 1's17:26
Northwoodssoreau: i see17:27
bekksluca_bi: If you start the apps, you will see wether there is a gui ;)17:27
soreauNorthwoods: To write all 0's means to fill all units with 0's which effectively erases it because it's meaningless data17:27
Northwoodssoreau: will it help me getting around bad sectors ?17:27
luca_bibekks: have you ever use it?17:27
ActionParsnipmezod: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc17:27
jxmwhy is in my synaptic greyed <force version>?17:28
soreauNorthwoods: No. Bad sectors are portions that have units that are damaged, so they can't be written to and read from properly17:28
bekksluca_bi: Yes.17:28
soreauNorthwoods: Some drives have automatic bad sector handling but it largely depends on the specific device17:28
luca_biHow do you use it?17:28
luca_biAre there commands?17:28
Northwoodssoreau: how can i check/look for bad sectors ?17:29
bekksluca_bi: You know the names of the applications you just installed.17:30
soreauNorthwoods: Not exactly sure, I (or you) would have to do some research (a good place to start is google)17:30
BluesKaj!kde | BluesKaj17:30
ubottuBluesKaj, please see my private message17:30
soreauhmm17:30
soreau! ubuntu | BluesKaj17:31
ubottuBluesKaj: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com17:31
soreauBluesKaj: Why did it pm him with the factoid without > ?17:31
llutzsoreau: selftell17:31
soreauOh duh17:31
soreau;)17:31
18WAA9XWVtest17:32
BluesKajsoreau, i was looking to see if the factoid includes kubuntu desktop17:32
soreauBluesKaj: FWIW, /msg ubottu factoid works too17:32
ActionParsnip!test | 18WAA9XWV17:32
* RaTTuS|BIG Humps |17:32
ubottu18WAA9XWV: Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use #test )17:32
soreau18WAA9XWV: It didn't work17:33
devilking!wine17:34
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu17:34
Gentoo64.cle17:37
guidovi do sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1 to format my usb drive, all goes well, then i try to mount it, error occurs, dmesg | tail says: JBD: no valid journal superblock found / EXT4-fs (sdb1): error loading journal. what do i do wrong?17:37
bekksguidov: which mount command exactly do you use?17:38
guidovmount /dev/sdb1 usb (usb is a directory). but i get the same error when i get my usb drive out of the port, plug it back in and Ubuntu tries to mount it itself17:38
guidovalso fsck /dev/sdb1 complains about the journal17:39
Gentoo64.pa17:39
ActionParsnipguidov: do you have a desktop UI?17:39
ElemsI can't shut down, log off, suspend or hibernate on my laptop. The screen will go blank and hang there forever. I think this may be due to the nvidia proprietary drivers somehow..?17:39
guidovActionParsnip, what do you mean?17:39
ActionParsnipElems: does:  sudo shutdown -n now      make it turn off?17:39
theadminElems: Hm, I had the same problem... By any chance, is it an Acer Aspire?17:40
ActionParsnipguidov: its as simple as I can put it, do you have a desktop based OS or a server one (command line only)?17:40
guidovyes I have plain Ubuntu, with desktop17:40
BluesKajsoreau, some ubuntu users looking to kdes asan alternative aren't instaling kubuntu-desktop which causes problems due to the incomplete info about installing kde17:40
Elemstheadmin its a lenovo u46017:41
soreauBluesKaj: That's what kubuntu is for ;)17:41
ActionParsnipguidov: have you tried gparted17:41
guidovnot yet, but it should work this way too17:41
ElemsActionParsnip I haven't tried those yet. I'll go ahead and check that out17:41
ActionParsnipguidov: true, if gparted works than  you know the commands are bad in some way17:42
ActionParsnipElems: sorry: sudo shutdown -h now17:42
ActionParsnipElems: h == halt17:42
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emilirsudo add-apt-repository ppa:cherokee-webserver/i-tse17:42
emilirsudo: add-apt-repository: command not found17:42
sl33k_Any good resource online for learning terminal shortcut keys?17:42
emilirWhy do I get not found?17:42
theadminemilir: Probably an old Ubuntu version17:42
ActionParsnipemilir: install python-software-properties17:43
emilirlucid 10.0417:43
escottsl33k_, what do you mean terminal shortcut keys?17:43
sl33k_bash shortcut keys17:43
theadminemilir: Use this: echo "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/cherokee-webserver/i-tse/ubuntu $(lsb_release -sc) main" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/cherokee-webserver_i-tse.list17:44
escottsl33k_, i think you are refering to readline http://www.gnu.org/s/bash/manual/html_node/Readline-Interaction.html17:44
mezodhow am i supposed to navigate from one app to another when i have maximized them? this new system is not really comfortable17:44
guest111222Hello! Anyone knows what is going on with global proxy settings via System Settings -> Network -> Proxy? It does not work at all...17:44
emilirtheadmin: I want to upgrade my cherokee though I already have 0.99.39 installed...17:44
emilirtheadmin: will that upgrade my cherokee to latest?17:45
sl33k_escott: that was exactly what i was looking for. thanks a bunch17:45
theadminemilir: It should, as long as the PPA has the latest.17:45
pikaciusl33k_ : try also www.tldp.org17:45
jeatonanyone here really familiar with dd?17:46
ElemsActionParsnip well shutting down from the command line didn't work17:46
mezodi have just installed the alst version and it detects the battery of my laptop as empty but it is full, what can i do?17:46
sl33k_pikaciu: i will definitely, thanks17:46
escott!anyone | jeaton17:46
ubottujeaton: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.17:46
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BluesKajsoreau, well kde works very well for me and I prefer it , especially now :)17:48
guest111222None with the idea about global proxy setting (system wide)?17:49
ActionParsnipElems: same result?17:50
ElemsActionParsnip yup17:50
ElemsActionParsnip I feel like its because of my proprietary drivers, it worked before them. I also have no splash screen when the computer starts, and it doesn't pop up when shutting down either.17:51
mezodi have just installed the alst version and it detects the battery of my laptop as empty but it is full, what can i do?17:53
dr_willismezod:  check the forums and askubuntu.com for similer issues with the exact make of your laptop.17:56
peteslaptopjrib: I was able to install  the cupswrapper.deb I moved the file to my home folder then sudo -i .....17:58
Shwaiilhi ppl17:58
jribpeteslaptop: well that should give you the driver17:58
ShwaiilQ: GeForce GT525M look like a "Optimus card" that  is not supported in ubuntu. How can I confirm if a given graphic card is optimus or not (i know is not supported in ubuntu) ? Tks for looking17:58
jribpeteslaptop: make sure you installed its dependencies17:59
jordanjhoellando caido de la mata17:59
kapchow can i install gnome-keyring-manager?17:59
peteslaptopjrib: so the printer now appears in the gnome menu (upper right), however, this is a network printer17:59
dr_willis!find gnome-keyring-manager17:59
ubottuFile gnome-keyring-manager found in tango-icon-theme-common17:59
dr_willis!find seahorse18:00
ubottuFound: seahorse18:00
dr_willis!info seahorse18:00
ubottuseahorse (source: seahorse): GNOME front end for GnuPG. In component main, is optional. Version 3.2.2-0ubuntu0.1 (oneiric), package size 472 kB, installed size 2156 kB18:00
dr_williskapc:  i think its actually called 'seahorse' but not sure about that18:00
peteslaptopjrib: so I assume that I have to connect it or configure the printer to see it over my router18:00
jordanjhoellI no speak Ingles18:00
escottShwaiil, optimus is a combination of the card and the cpu, check bumblebee or vgaswitcheroo projects. (one supports nvidia the other ati I cant remember which is which)18:01
jeatonnot a ubuntu question, but I formated my mp3 to low level and it wiped out the software and everything on it so it's pretty useless right now; however, I have another mpl3 player identical to it18:01
kapcdr_willis thank you, do you know the website of tango-icon-theme-common?18:01
Realello18:01
Shwaiilescott,  tks a lot for looking. is there a way to check if a computer is optimus ? I want to get a new laptop and I dont want something that is not supported18:01
alazare619everyone needs to support this game its probably the best mmorpg out on the market for linux check it out Wakfu its openbeta atm most are french speakers that play but we can get english going support it fellow linuxers even tho i dont run ubuntu you guys have the biggest community18:01
ShwaiilGeForce GT525M18:01
dr_williskapc:  nope18:02
jeatonif I were to plug them both into my computer, would this recover it "dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=/dev/sdb2 conv=notrunc,noerror"18:02
kapc!info tango-icon-theme-common18:02
ubottutango-icon-theme-common (source: tango-icon-theme-common): Tango Icon theme - common icons. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7-0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 158 kB, installed size 1132 kB18:02
dr_williskapc:  thats just an icon pack. not the actual binary18:02
Realdo you guys thing  linux will ever become mainstream18:02
Real?18:02
alazare619no18:02
alazare619as desktop no server it already is18:02
Realwhat will it have to do in order to do so (on desktop/laptop)?18:02
kapcoh not good for me18:02
peteslaptopjrib: BTW, where do these 'drivers' reside on Linux? I know where to find them in Windows18:03
alazare619ubuntu comes on netbooks now tho18:03
escottShwaiil, its not the GT525M that makes it optimus. its something about the way the gpu and cpu are interconnected. if the bios doesnt say and there isnt a label I have no idea how you woudl check18:03
kapcany suggesion of how it's named the binary of gnome-keyring-manager?18:03
kapc!info gnome-keyring-manager18:03
ubottuPackage gnome-keyring-manager does not exist in oneiric18:03
Shwaiilescott, tks! ok, so this have to be checked in the specifications on the manufacturer site right ?18:03
guigouzwhat would be the "correct" way of persisting iptables rules on ubuntu ?18:04
dr_willisReal:  i allready consider linux mainstream :)18:04
genii-aroundguigouz: iptables-save and iptables-restore18:05
kijutsuSo -- I keep getting this annoying WAIT X from Nvidia GPU and a following mi EQ error that states Xorg is probably stuck in an infinite loop on 10.04.3-LTS.  How the heck do I fix this?18:05
dr_willisguigouz:  they are all stored in a file i recall . read by the firewall startup stuff.18:05
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guigouzdr_willis: yeah, but is there any script that loads that on startup ?18:06
guigouzredhat-based distros usualy have a /etc/init.d/iptables script18:06
emilirHow to install python-software-properties with Ubuntu Lucid (apt-get?)18:06
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guigouzemilir: for python modules, you can try sudo easy_install module-name18:06
peteslaptopjrib: Got it. I'm such a noob at this, I appreciate your patience18:07
emilirI just want to make this command "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:cherokee-webserver/i-tse" work on my Ubuntu Lucid18:07
ElemsMy laptop can't shut down, log off, restart, etc. It used to work until shortly after getting proprietary nvidia drivers18:07
emilirand it keeps telling me "sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found"18:07
peteslaptopjrib: It works. Test page printed. Thanks to everyone for their patience and help. Will read up more on Linux so I can navigate the terminal better!18:08
llutz!find add-apt-repository18:08
ubottuFile add-apt-repository found in python-software-properties18:08
glebihanemilir, just run "sudo apt-get install pytthon-software-properties"18:08
mezodi have just installed the alst version and it detects the battery of my laptop as empty but it is full, what can i do? can't find anything on askubuntu18:08
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emilirglebihan: nope, "E: Couldn't find package pytthon-software-properties"18:09
dr_willisHumble Bundledoh...18:09
dr_willisplease ignore that.18:09
glebihanemilir, sorry typo : sudo apt-get install python-software-properties18:09
dr_willisgrandkid just pasted it..18:09
pikaciujust one "t" emilir18:10
theadmindr_willis: lol xD18:11
alazare619thanks for the link to your games dr willis18:12
alazare619downloading and installing now :)18:12
theadminyep same, altough I already had all the introversion games and crayon physics so it's just aquaria for me :D18:13
alazare619i wanted multiwinia and darwinia18:13
alazare619aquaria too18:13
alazare619but yea help support wakfu18:13
alazare619games pretty neat to say the least18:13
alazare619its a sequel to dofus18:13
dr_williswas saveing the info to a file.. dident clear the buffer.18:13
dr_willisnot like you cant get them off the torrents anyway.18:14
alazare619true18:14
dr_willisI can NEVER get crayon physics to work right i had it befor18:14
alazare619but i prefer to get them direct from the sources18:14
alazare619not 3rd party18:14
nmvictorI am trying to compile tomboy-todo addin/plugin and i get the error error CS0246: The type or namespace name `Gtk' could not be found. Are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?] , anyone know a quick fix to this?18:16
kapccan i downgrade version?18:16
kijutsuSo -- I keep getting this annoying WAIT X from Nvidia GPU and a following mi EQ error that states Xorg is probably stuck in an infinite loop on 10.04.3-LTS.  How the heck do I fix this?18:16
markkkzHi, when I download the Ubuntu kernel source does it include all settings intended for that particular kernel version? For example, if I want to recompile with an additional setting from Y to N.18:17
guigouzmarkkkz: did you check /boot for kernel config files ?18:17
nmvictorI am trying to compile tomboy-todo addin/plugin and i get the error error CS0246: The type or namespace name `Gtk' could not be found. Are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?] , anyone know a quick fix to this?18:17
markkkzguigouz: I have not downloaded the source yet. Soon. My connection right now is slow soI'll do it later.  But is that a yes or no?18:18
markkkzguigouz: Where can Iget a list of all the settings for a particular Ubuntu kernel. I'm using 2.6.38-12-generic right now on x64. Do you know? :)18:19
guigouzmarkkkz: I don't have an ubuntu box right now, but open a terminal and type "ls /boot", the config files for the current kernel should be there18:20
guigouzmarkkkz: there's also a possibility that /proc/config.gz exists, if it does, that's the current kernel config18:20
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markkkzguigouz: ahh yes I see it. how could I have missed this. lol :) thanks18:21
guigouzmarkkkz: just copy them over to the kernel source dir, named as ".config"18:21
markkkzguigouz: ok so what you suggest, when i do "make menuconfig" does this default to the current setting or I'll have to check/uncheck everything? there ar eonly a couple of settings I want to change so I don't want to re-do the whole thing. Right?18:22
RuudjahI have about 10 WAN connections here. Is there a way to use multiple simultaneously?18:22
guigouzmarkkkz: copy /boot/config-x.x.x to /usr/src/linux-y-y-y-y/.config18:23
escottRuudjah, http://chris.olstrom.com/howto/setup-dual-wan/18:23
Ruudjahe.g. 1 for torrents, 1 for gaming, 1 for http traffic?18:23
guigouzmarkkkz: when you make menuconfig, the options will be already selected18:23
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guigouzmarkkkz: i guess there should be a "ubuntu way" of doing this, you should look into that if you wish to create a deb file of your own kernel for redistribution18:24
markkkzguigouz: Excellent! :)  bunch of thanks. One more thing. Got an estimate how long it will take for the recopile? This is on an i5 2410M 8GB machine.18:25
Ruudjahits not doable with a single hardware eth, right? my wans are all wifi, so I guess id need multi wifi adapters (usb with a hub?)18:25
guigouzmarkkkz: never compiled a kernel on such machine, but I bet much less than 10 minutes18:25
markkkzguigouz: Well I just want to experiment. I'd like to do it on launchpad or something. I hear it's free and I don't have to recompile on my machine. But don't reall yknow how that works as of now.18:25
markkkzguigouz: .... so I'm going to compile on this machine and see if this works.18:26
guigouzmarkkkz: what are you tweaking ?18:27
Ruudjah(tnx escott)18:27
markkkzguigouz: Don't ask. It's really stupid and I'm going to get embarrassed saying it over here. =D18:27
Doodiehi, how do I increase the size of my FileSystem partition in ubuntu?18:27
guigouzok, i understand some people have a fetish for kernel tweaks18:28
escottDoodie, boot the livecd and use gparted to resize18:28
Doodieescott, thanks18:28
markkkzguigouz: I have to read up on this particular setting anyway. So I have no idea right now if it'll work or not. But I just wanted to get the settings for the kernel set before I attempt over the weekend.  :D18:29
lazyuserexit18:30
guigouzmarkkkz: there's a kernel-howto also18:30
thegreyspotHi! I just installed my new ubuntu on my new computer. HP Pavilion dv4. THe wifi card works when i first turn on the computer, and then it disconnects and the password prompt appears.. I am using wep on the router18:31
thegreyspotI have broadcom drivers installed, they were preinstalled i guess18:31
thegreyspotOnce it disconnects it doesnt come back either, Not sure what to do. I am a noob to Ubuntu18:33
marwhow log out by using console in ubuntu 11? gnome-session-save --logout does not workl18:34
pikaciuthegreyspot: the wireless led is on ?18:34
markkkzguigouz: Does kernel decompression output mean everything it spits out during the boot process until it comes to a login prompt?18:34
markkkzguigouz: regardless of what init level18:34
pikaciuthegreyspot: blue i mean18:34
thegreyspotPikaciu yep18:35
thegreyspotblue?18:35
thegreyspotits orange18:35
thegreyspotits always orange18:35
guigouzmarkkkz: if you remove the "quiet" parameter from the kernel command line (on grub) you get the kernel boot info that runs before init18:35
guigouzmarkkkz: after that ends, init takes over18:35
pikaciuthegreyspot: on my hp dv6  is blue18:35
thegreyspothmmm18:35
thegreyspotIm pretty sure its orange in windows too18:35
markkkzguigouz: Ok. so kernel decompression output is before init, then the rest of the messages are from init? Is dmesg init or kernel or a mix of both?18:36
pikaciuthegreyspot: look in additional drivers18:37
pikaciuthegreyspot: and run ifconfig18:37
escottmarkkkz, the kernel keeps its logging in memory before handing it off to syslog. dmesg just prints the kernels buffer which may or may not be long enough to include kernel logs from the very beginning of the boot18:37
phibxrthegreyspot, how strong is the signal?18:37
markkkzescott: ok thanks. hmm....18:39
ElemsMy laptop can't shut down or log out, how do I fix this?18:39
dr_willisElems:  and how are you trying to 'log out' ?18:40
Elemsdr_willis using the log out option from the menu. And I've tried shutting down from there and the command line with no success.18:40
thegreyspotpikaciu: doing an apt-get upgrade so ill brb18:41
tnksI'm on Oneric, does anyone have vim problems inserting a prefix on multiple lines with a visual block?18:42
dr_willisElems:  so what does it do exctly when you try to log out? thats a totally differnt sort of thing then shutting down.18:42
Elemsdr_willis it hangs on a blank screen18:42
dr_willisElems:  i recall ages ago in gdm needing to use a 'always restart x server' setting for my old ati card18:43
tnksthe keystrokes I think it should be are: Ctrl-V, <select lines>, I, <prefix>, ESC18:43
tnksbut it's never worked for me.18:44
Elemsdr_willis I'm using a nvidia card with the proprietary drivers, should I try what you are saying..?18:44
tnksI asked #vim, but they recommended I verify it with other Ubuntu users.18:44
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dr_willisElems:  i dont even know if lightdm has that option any more. It was in GDM.18:47
Elemsdr_willis oh yea... I'm honestly thinking of reinstalling because there are a bunch of things acting weird.18:47
dr_willisi always do clean installs :)18:48
tnksscratch that, I figured it out.18:49
tnksI'm so used to Shift-V, I was doing that instead of Ctrl-V18:49
* tnks is silly18:49
wildc4rdgood evening all18:52
pikaciulife in a day ---18:52
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saymoocan i ask a question?18:54
costre_!ask18:55
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:55
soreau! ask | saymoo18:55
ubottusaymoo: please see above18:55
saymoo"how's everyone doing here?"  :P18:55
Realello18:56
ShinyDarknessHello.18:56
saymooolle18:56
Realso, what does linux have to do in order to become mainstream on the desktop18:57
Real?18:57
Real(including laptop)18:57
saymooReal, quite a few things....18:57
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saymooquestion is does GNU/Linux needs to be mainstream (as in huge marketshare)?18:58
RealGreat counter question...18:59
RealI guess, more mainstream, better resources/support, better for linux overall18:59
saymooyes and no18:59
Realobviously it always depends19:00
saymooexact19:00
saymooly19:00
Realbut in general that would be more positive than negative19:00
saymooit could be expected to be a possitive turnout19:01
RealI see the glimmers of greatness in linux and overall o/f software19:01
BluesKajBBL, stuff to do19:01
jdjbHas anyone experienced a bug in vim where syntax highlighting turns off after you save specific file types (in my case PHP)?19:01
Realand a better ecosystem19:01
Realusually can mean more funding19:01
Realmore funding more developement and HIGHER QUALITY19:02
bazhang!ot | Real19:02
ubottuReal: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:02
saymooProblem is, if GNU/linux is going mainstream (e.g. bigger than apple's share), it also attracks criminals more, and bad written software in general.19:02
bazhangsaymoo, please continue in #ubuntu-offtopic as well19:02
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xaxeshey all.. I have a question, hopefully somebody is able/willed to help me :) .. I just bootet a ubuntu-system without any user.. what would be the fastes way to create one? (right now Im in the login-manager (gui)) .. serial console gives me no login console or something like that.. maybe simple copying a valid passwd/shadow to fs?19:09
theadminxaxes: Boot from a livecd, chroot and adduser19:09
theadminxaxes: best idea imo19:09
plouffedoes anyone know if it is possible to run a real Windows 7 partition under Ubuntu (like a virtual machine)?19:09
xaxestheadmin: thanks, livecd could be heavy ^^ no cd ;) but I gonna try to use live-install19:10
theadminplouffe: Yes, you can.19:10
plouffetheadmin, how?19:10
MeQuerSatxaxes: cant you just do a Control+Alt+F1 and log in as root?19:10
theadminplouffe: Virtualbox can do that -- make it use a real hard drive, like this: VBoxManage internalcommands createrawvmdk -rawdisk /dev/sda -filename ~/my-harddrive.vdi19:10
FightOppressionWhy can't I boot from USB on my Asus p5B board? I formatted the stick with ext3, created a startup usb stick with the Gnome application and set boot from removable device in the bios.19:10
theadminMeQuerSat: Root login is disabled on Ubuntu by default.19:10
juanchihi people!! Im having troubles with my locales in Natty... Gtk applications throw: " Locale not supported by C library., "Using the fallback 'C' locale... Some applications dont even start... Ive been googling for days without getting anything... ive tried reconfiguring the locales with dpkg.. also tried with localedef but no luck... Root user dont have any problem.. Any ideas?19:10
xaxesMeQuerSat: what is root on ubuntu without an existing user?19:11
theadminxaxes: Hey, another idea19:11
plouffetheadmin, that is all? I will give it a go19:11
lunitikplouffe, I would recommend virtualbox-ose as a starting point19:11
xaxesI actually dont like the root-philosophy on ubuntu.. ^^19:11
MeQuerSatoh, didnt know that theadmin, thanks :)19:11
theadminxaxes: During boot up, hold Shift, and then choose "Recovery mode" and from there on, "root shell"19:11
xaxesgonna try it19:12
theadminxaxes: If that doesn't work, try appending "init=/bin/bash" to your kernel line, and replace "ro" with "rw".19:12
lunitikxaxes, Why? Having a root account makes it very easy to hack the box, using sudo and disabling the root account makes things a lot more secure... of course it would be better to use SELinux and simply limit root and users to what you actually want, but that is considered too difficult19:12
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MeQuerSat"Having a root account makes it very easy to hack the box"19:13
MeQuerSatnot true at all19:13
MeQuerSatIf you set roots password to 123, then youre right...19:13
xaxeslunitik: see it from that point: most of the people want to use a `simple` password for normal work.. not to type every time a 32pw .. most of them have a very simple one.. if you have this.. everything is fine, maybe Im wrong19:14
lunitikMeQuerSat, it makes it very simple to target john the ripper at a particular account... it is predictable19:14
xaxeslunitik: you could change the name of "root" to every name you want.. so that shouldnt be a real problem19:14
lunitikxaxes, but it is always UID 119:14
xaxeslunitik: yes19:15
xaxesdo you use the UID on login? :)19:15
lunitikxaxes, you cannot predict the account number of an account with sudo access19:15
xaxestheadmin: shift doesnt work sadly.. gonna try the bash thing19:15
lunitikxaxes, a hacker would use UID to gain access, though19:15
MeQuerSatit mostly is 1000...19:15
xaxeslunitik: if you have acces to ONE account of your machine, youre able to use ALL .. In my opinion thats really creepy19:15
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lunitikMeQuerSat, it doesn't have to be, though... changing the name or UID of root breaks a bunch of stuff (I tried it, huge mess)19:16
Guest71142hi everybody19:16
Lubomirhello. i installed ubuntu 11.10, run the updates, reboot and now the system dont boot any more. it hang up at grub and i have the grub command line infront of mine19:16
MeQuerSatlunitik, with a 20+ char password John the rip. isnt going to do anything19:16
lunitikMeQuerSat, changing the UID of a normal user that just happens to have sudo access breaks nothing19:16
MeQuerSatLubomir, can you select Recovery Mode ?19:16
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LubomirMeQuerSat: i cant select anything. it just give me an command line19:17
kijutsuWhat are these stupid 'server stuck in infinite loop' in my Xorg.0.log and how the heck can I make th em stop?19:17
MeQuerSatLubomir, does it display: grub>19:17
LubomirMeQuerSat: yes19:18
* lunitik wishes Ubuntu would adopt SELinux and the related tools from Fedora instead of the dead project AppArmor, but otherwise their security features are quite good19:19
xaxestheadmin: bash doesnt work too19:19
MeQuerSatLubomir, do you have EFI ?19:19
mickepaprikahello...19:20
LubomirMeQuerSat: no. its an older centrino notebook. Like i told. I just installed fresh ubuntu and select "use whole hdd". I boot into it, run the updates that have been automaticly shown and now it does not boot any more19:20
mickepaprikahow can I disable compiz and enable the good old metacity? it is getting a bit heavy for my old computer...19:20
at_insiderhi all19:21
escottmickepaprika, what version of ubuntu are you running19:21
MeQuerSatmickepaprika, log out and select Ubuntu 2D19:21
at_insideri nooby19:21
MeQuerSatLubomir, you can boot from the live-cd again and reinstall grub19:21
lunitikmickepaprika, sudo apt-get install metacity && metacity --replace ... I would recommend trying the Unity 2D desktop in Onieric first though, its basically the same except without the effects19:21
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lunitikmickepaprika, using metacity will break a lot of unity, since unity is built on top of compiz19:22
s_p_or_t_ocan anyone help me find alsa drivers for linux-alsa-driver-modules-2.6.32-35-generic-pae for 10.04 LTS lucid, it's not in the PPA19:22
mickepaprikaMeQuerSat: ok will try that...19:23
at_insiderНарод,ну скажите как разблочить порт,а?19:23
LubomirMeQuerSat: how can i do this exactly?19:23
MonkeyDust!ru| at_insider19:23
ubottuat_insider: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.19:23
mickepaprikalunitik: well actually.. don't know if i'm too crazy about unity either...19:23
mickepaprikai'm running the latest version of ubuntu btw...19:23
kijutsuWhy do I constantly get errors in my Xorg.0.log saying that the server is infinitely looping and a stacktrace a mile long?  I have to reboot the computer to get it to respond again.19:23
mickepaprikaok will try to log out.. later...19:23
lunitikmickepaprika, there are many other options if you wanna try some of them... you can do 'apt-cache search x-window-manager' to see a full list19:24
MeQuerSatLubomir: google it19:24
MonkeyDust!google19:24
ubottuWhile Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.19:24
bazhangMeQuerSat, thats not helpful19:25
bazhang!grub2 | Lubomir this may help19:25
ubottuLubomir this may help: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)19:25
escottLubomir, when you say it does not boot can you be more specific. what is the last thing you see during the boot19:25
MeQuerSatbazhang, Im just assuming the guy isnt too retarded to google "grub reinstall from livecd"19:26
MeQuerSatits not that hard to come up with ;)19:26
Lubomirescott: grub minimalistic command line19:26
bazhangMeQuerSat, if you have nothing to offer then dont say google it, people know about google already.19:26
lunitikMeQuerSat, please do not use derogatory words in #ubuntu, many will be offended19:26
MeQuerSat:)19:27
mickepaprikayep that worked... thanks!!19:27
escottLubomir, then follow the instructions in the !grub2 response as if you "lost GRUB after installing windows"19:27
lunitikMeQuerSat, consider, they have come here to ask exactly because Google and friends aren't complying with their needs19:27
kijutsuWhat do I need to do to end this ridiculous repetition of the Xorg server falling into a infinite loop requiring a system reboot?19:27
MeQuerSatlunitik, if you, for a second, read what I said to help the guy, you would be quiet now ;)19:28
lunitikMeQuerSat, Ubuntu takes a stance of hand holding rather than rtfm19:28
MeQuerSatagain...19:28
lunitikkijutsu, what exactly is the error you are seeing in the log?19:28
kijutsulunitik: give me a moment and I'll pastebin the necessary info19:28
Ciatronicaltst19:28
pikaciuMeQuerSat: read the fucking manual19:28
lunitikpikaciu, read the FINE manual!19:29
bazhangpikaciu, uncalled for and unacceptable19:29
pikaciusorry :P19:29
kijutsulunitik: http://pastebin.com/D4PFsnhV19:29
pikaciui just made clear "rtfm"19:30
lunitikUbuntu exists exactly because Debian folks are too rude about new users... keep it in mind19:30
SMJso... what would be a good music player?19:30
kijutsulunitik: I've tried disabling compiz and dropping to a dead boring non-compiz Gnome screen, and it hasn't helped.19:30
MeQuerSatSMJ: Rhythmbox19:30
SMJlet's see19:31
MeQuerSatkijutsu, what driver are you using?19:31
lunitikkijutsu, I see no error there... please 'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE19:31
bindisigh.19:32
SMJMeQuerSat: I can't hide the playlist :(19:32
bindii just updated my system (11.10), and after a reboot, picture was all messed up. wrong resolution etc, opened nvidia-settings, it told me to do nvidia-xconfig, so I did, and rebooted19:32
MeQuerSatkijutsu, the latest nvidia propitiatory drivers from the official repositories?19:32
bindino picture19:32
SMJand the Play/Stop/Rewind buttons are huge19:32
MeQuerSatSMJ: not huge here19:32
MeQuerSatSMJ: What playlist?19:33
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MeQuerSatSMJ: you can click at the left on Music to open the library (= no playlist)19:33
SMJwhat ever the part below the position slider is19:33
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nlionhey so I got a GPG error when running apt-get update. Any help?19:33
escottbindi, do you know what was included in the update. kernel/xorg/nvidia etc?19:33
kijutsulunitik: there is no error -- the problem is the X window stops responding, and I get a log full of the server stuck in infinite loop and a log full of stacktrace19:33
bindiescott: no, just a bunch of updates19:33
SMJVLC is a great music player19:33
MeQuerSatSMJ: then install vlc?19:34
nlionW: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found19:34
Sidewinder1SMJ, Perhaps have a look at the KDE version, "Juke?"19:34
nlioncan anyone help me debug that?19:34
MeQuerSatkijutsu, what is the exact video driver youre using?19:34
lunitikClemantine is nice if you want a player... juke is very limited19:34
bekksnlion: 404 means file not found.19:34
SMJbut I'm crazy and upgraded to precise, and VLC keeps crashing, so I'll just try alternatives19:34
nlionis that repository nonexistent?19:34
nlionthanks bekks19:35
kijutsuMeQuerSat: nvidia-current, which is a meta package (i believe)19:35
MeQuerSatSMJ: rhythmbox looks like this: http://projects.gnome.org/rhythmbox/screenshots/rhythmbox-main.png19:35
* Sidewinder1 Is listening to Rythmbox, as we speak.. :D19:35
MeQuerSatkijutsu, you can open Synaptic, search for "nvidia" and look which are installed19:36
SMJyes, all kinds of useless stuff. vlc looks like this http://www.bablotech.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/vlc-media-player-100-rc1.png19:36
kijutsuMeQuerSat: nope.  I don't have time before Xorg decides to lock up.19:36
MeQuerSatkijutsu, it can be done via command line, but Im not sure how19:37
lunitikkijutsu, dpkg -l *nvidia*19:37
kijutsuMeQuerSat: according to apt-cache showpkg nvidia-current -- it's 195.36.24-0ubuntu119:37
kijutsuFor the record.. I'm using 10.04-LTS19:37
SMJSidewinder1: is juke a command line program?19:38
MeQuerSatSMJ: then use mplayer or smplayer19:38
Lubomirargh19:38
lunitikSMJ, no... it is a minimalistic KDE player19:38
Lubomiri installed grub again19:38
Lubomirwith sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdX19:38
Lubomirand after reboot i get again the minimalistic grub command line19:38
SMJI'll try smplayer19:39
* lunitik pokes mplayer219:39
MeQuerSatLubomir, did you use /dev/sdX or /dev/sda ?19:39
bencchow can I flush the dns?19:39
Lubomirdev/sda19:39
benccping gives me correct IP on one machine but on the other the old IP19:39
escottLubomir, did you have sda1 mounted on /mnt at the time you ran that command19:39
Lubomirbefore i mount the right root partition to the right place19:39
Lubomirescott:yes19:40
MeQuerSatbencc: I believe sudo /etc/init.d/dns-clean start       will do the job19:40
SMJsmplayer looks good19:40
MeQuerSatbencc: if that doesnt work, you can do a "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"19:40
benccMeQuerSat: still old IP19:40
Sidewinder1SMJ, Although it can be started via cli, it's a KDE based (I believe) GUI player; not too top-heavy, IMHO.19:40
Lubomirthat cant be normal! How should a normal user use ubuntu?!? He installs it, run the updates and after that its broken19:41
benccMeQuerSat: still old IP19:41
relikhow can you encrypt the home directory after installation of ubuntu 11.10?19:41
MeQuerSatLubomir, that rarely happens19:41
benccMeQuerSat: I also tried to restart19:41
escottrelik, yes19:41
relikescott: but how?19:41
escott!ecryptfs | relik19:41
greveshello, i have a question about dual booting19:41
MeQuerSatbencc: then try this: sudo aptitude install nscd19:41
MeQuerSatbencc: and then run: sudo /etc/init.d/nscd restart19:41
kijutsubencc: try using 'sudo /etc/init.d/nscd restart'19:41
benccwhy do I need nscd?19:42
MeQuerSatits the dns caching daemon19:42
escottrelik, was hoping there would be an ecryptfs suggestion. evidently there isn't. its a bit involved so its probably easiest to create a new user with encrypted home and then migrate19:42
SMJjuke is curses-based player, you must mean Juk...19:42
benccdo I need to install a caching daemon to clean the cache?19:42
MeQuerSatLubomir, what was the output after which you ran the grub-install command?19:42
MeQuerSatbencc: networking restart should work19:42
relikhmmm let me check how19:43
escottrelik, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory19:43
grevescan anyone advise me on dual booting? just bought a machine with no OS, i will primarily use win7 which i haven't installed yet, i have a 1TB hard drive - what is the best way to partition for ubuntu?19:43
LubomirMeQuerSat: that it installed successfully and with no errors19:43
phluxHey guys, I had to reboot my Ubuntu system, and I booted into a grub> prompt19:43
benccMeQuerSat:  example.com gives me the old IP but www.example.com the new IP19:43
kijutsugreves: you can install windows 7, then install ubuntu afterwards, and I'm pretty sure that Ubuntu will resize the existing partition and modify the boot record automatically.19:43
benccMeQuerSat:  that's weird19:43
phluxnot sure why, but root (hd0,0) won't do anything, nor will setup (hd0)19:44
MeQuerSatbencc: but its not the fault of ubuntu19:44
phluxso any help getting this thing booted would be appreciated19:44
MeQuerSatbencc: restart your router?19:44
kijutsugreves: or install windows 7 as usual, and leave a 50-ish gig partition at the end of your drive for use with partition.19:44
kijutsu.,..ubuntu rather19:44
greveskijutsu: is it easy/possible to make a relatively small ubuntu partition, and save most larger files to the windows partition?19:44
SMJJuK is great too19:44
benccMeQuerSat: ubuntu is a vbox guest but the win host gives new IP19:44
benccMeQuerSat: so I don't think it's the router19:44
greveslike, can i "share" the drive between windows and ubutu?19:45
lunitikgreves, sure19:45
xaxesthanks all.. bye ;)19:45
kijutsugreves: i'm not sure how well Linux can write to NTFS yet.  I know for a long time it was very touch and go.19:45
MeQuerSatLubomir, phlux, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Use_Boot-Repair_Graphical_Tool19:45
phluxAnyone?19:45
phluxThanks19:45
lunitikgreves, I would recommend creating a separate drive for it rather than the windows c: though19:45
kijutsulunitik: fat32 you think?19:46
RoadsterGThow can i edit grub so it loads automatically the 4th option at boot select? (windows that is)19:46
lunitikkijutsu, ntfs is fine19:46
hayxori have had goos luck with dual booting wins and ubuntu- but i think ut helps for beginners to install windows first then linux19:46
hayxorgood*19:46
lunitikkijutsu, that is what ntfs-3g is for19:46
greveslunitik: how big should i make the ubuntu drive to be useable?19:46
MeQuerSatkijutsu, ntfs has great read+write support nowadays19:46
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kijutsulunitik: i wasn't aware NTFs writing has been made functional.  About time that's been incorperated :)19:46
greveslunitik: assuming i'll just save anything bigger than a few hundred MB direct to the windows partition19:47
Lubomir352MB download for reinstall grub. HAHAHA :D19:47
RoadsterGThow can i edit grub so it loads automatically the 4th option at boot select? (windows that is)19:47
lunitikgreves, I would recommend at least 5 gigs, and something like 15 gigs for c: ... then utilizing tweak UI to move Windows apps to d: and share d: on both systems19:47
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lunitikkijutsu, that is why I am recommending a smallish c: and a larger secondary partition to be shared19:47
MeQuerSatLubomir, you can also install the boot-repair program from the live-cd..19:47
greveslunitik: that sounds like a good idea...19:48
phluxMeQuerSat: I can't boot from that grub prompt somehow?19:48
greveslunitik: so then my drives would be: /dev/sda1 (15gb c:), sda2 (960gb d:), sda3 (15gb ubuntu), sda4 (2gb swap)19:48
greveslunitik: something like that?19:49
lunitikgreves, it is actually good practice anyway, that way you can reinstall the main windows system every so often to ensure best performance19:49
MeQuerSatphlux, probably not19:49
phluxThat sucks19:49
phluxThanks, MeQuerSat. I'll give it a download.19:49
xsinickwhat channel can I talk about the trends of ubuntu19:49
lunitikgreves, well, I would recommend a small /boot partition of maybe 300mb to keep grub safe as well19:49
xsinickand it's  new look?19:49
greveslunitik: oh speaking of that, i was planning to use norton ghost to make a backup of the windows install + ninite downloads19:49
Lubomiri take an other distribution... i tought i give ubuntu a try on the laptop of a friend. that was a good try. I dont want to loose any more time. i will use my own distribution. check zevenos-neptune. its debian based with my own compiled kernel based on vanilla sources and so on19:49
lunitikgreves, unless you are familiar with the Windows boot manager19:49
greveslunitik: so i'd need another partition for that, no?19:49
MeQuerSatgreves: you should keep the small OS partitions at the beginning of the drive19:50
lunitikgreves, yes, for /boot19:50
wolfmitchellHey19:51
lunitikgreves, 15 gigs is more than enough to not even need to share drives on the Ubuntu system... Windows 7 is HUGE though19:51
grevesso what should my drive setup be assuming i want ~15gb c:, ~15gb /, ~2gb swap, ~x00mb /boot, ~15gb c:/ ghost19:51
greveswell i've got 1tb to play with19:51
grevesis it easy with tweakui to default all app installs to d:?19:51
grevesso like if i install 10 gigs of adobe nonsense, that will all be on d:?19:52
shibinhai all when I try to update my ubuntu I got stuck with this error The package burg-theme-picchio needs to be reinstalled ,, please help ?19:52
lunitikgreves, part 1: 500mb /boot; part 2: 15 gig windows c:\; part 3: 5 gb Ubuntu (can use a swap file); part 4: shared drive (d:\ and say /home/$USER/stuff/19:53
MeQuerSatI would do this: 100mb /boot ~ 30gb C:/ ~ 20gb ubuntu ~ 2gb swap ~ rest for D:/19:53
jayladi need help with unix file permissions19:53
lunitikgreves, you can move it there via tweak ui, yes... if adobe obeys the new programs folder19:53
grevesand what about the ghost copy of fresh C: install19:53
lunitikjaylad, ok... with respect to what?19:54
hayxori would just out the ubunut on their and acess the windows files that way with dual boot19:54
MeQuerSatgreves: just dump that in D:/19:54
shibin The package burg-theme-picchio needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. how to remove this19:54
hayxorthey are all their as a file system you can browse19:54
lunitikgreves, d: or a usb stick to keep it safer19:54
grevesMeQuerSat: i thought the idea was that it's not mounted in case of any corruption ?19:54
M4d3Lhi. how I can make a speedtest from ssh ?19:54
MeQuerSatgreves: its only a ghost copy afterall19:54
MeQuerSatI dont even like them19:54
M4d3LI want to know the connection speed of my server19:54
jayladwell i wanted to stop users from being able to read files out side their home folder and i fucked up abit because ive taken all their permissions away19:55
MeQuerSatjaylad: first you can do a "sudo chown user:group /home/user"19:55
MeQuerSatand replace user and group by the username and the group they are in19:55
MeQuerSatM4d3L, create a 100mb test file and download it? :)19:56
bazhangjaylad, watch the language here, no cursing19:56
jayladiim sorry19:56
grevesMeQuerSat: well, assuming that at some point i get a crippling virus on windows 7, wouldnt it be hard to reload the ghost image if it was just on D:?19:56
martianlobsterwhich device is the cdrom?  I tried /dev/sr0 /dev/scd0, so far no luck19:56
Gentoo64martianlobster, sr0 or cdrom19:57
MeQuerSatgreves: I dont know what you use to recover a system, but I think it should be possible to browse the D:/ drive for the ghost-image19:57
martianlobstersudo dd if=/dev/cdrom of=gaga1.iso19:57
martianlobsterdd: reading `/dev/cdrom': Input/output error19:57
MeQuerSatmartian, do a "ls /dev"19:58
MeQuerSatand see what its called19:58
M4d3LMeQuerSat: I only have 10mbit connecter from home. it will not be a revelant test19:58
martianlobsterthere are countless directories in /dev19:58
Gentoo64/dev/cdrom is just a shortcut to sr019:58
Gentoo64sr0 is usually the proper one to use19:59
dssdsd:)19:59
MeQuerSatmartian, then tru /dev/sr019:59
MeQuerSattry*19:59
grevesMeQuerSat, ok so going with your idea /boot, c:, /, swap, d:, which of those are primary / logical partitions?19:59
MeQuerSatall OS and boot drives should be primary19:59
Mitochondria!seen Mito19:59
ubottuI have no seen command19:59
qwebirc6378Hello19:59
* Mitochondria cries19:59
MeQuerSatif you setup your drive as GPT you can have more than 4 primary partitions btw19:59
grevesMeQuerSat, d: should be primary too or no?20:00
grevesi don't see how that works if it comes after /swap and its primary20:00
MeQuerSatwhy not set the drive up as GPT?20:00
MeQuerSatthen you can have them all as primary20:01
grevesoh ok20:01
grevesdo i need to switch a jumper for that or it's in BIOS or... ?20:01
gatitohola20:01
martianlobsterhere is a listing of /dev   http://codepad.org/oxtz0uen20:01
orzoHello.  I understand the ubuntu .iso image works as a live cd.  This is via isolinux, non-emulated el torito, right?  I also believe these same images work as usb stick images.   Is there anything special that is done to make a dual-use image like this?20:01
MeQuerSatgreves, no, you can change it via a livecd20:01
MeQuerSatits just how you format the hard drive20:02
jayladive tryed using tried using chown and its still saying i have no permissions for that user20:02
MeQuerSatjaylad, did you use "sudo" ?20:02
grevesMeQuerSat: ah, so i should do that before i install win7?20:02
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jayladwell im logged in as root so theres no need to20:02
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MeQuerSatgreves: Yes, all versions can use GPT partitioned disks for data. Booting is only supported for 64-bit editions on UEFI-based systems.20:03
MeQuerSatso windows 7 can only boot if you have an UEFI based system, do you have that?20:04
grevesMeQuerSat: i believe so. MSI h61ma-e35 b320:04
MeQuerSatI think thats uefi indewed20:05
MeQuerSatindeed*20:05
MeQuerSatthe way I did it was boot from an ubuntu live cd, open gparted and formatted the hdd with partition table GPT20:06
greveshmm. i'm just reading about putting program files on another drive, apparently it's not recommended by many people20:07
Si2100you trying to dual boot Ubuntu n 7 ?20:07
Gentoo64greves, what program files?20:07
MeQuerSatgreves, thats why I said a 30gb C:/ ;)20:07
grevesMeQuerSat ah.... well if i'm installing stuff like adobe and office probably need more than 30gb...20:08
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RoadsterGTHEY20:08
MeQuerSatyeah, maybe 50 or 60 would be appropriate20:08
RoadsterGThow can i install gpu driver?20:08
Si2100greves, give it a 250gb20:08
wolfmitchellThe unity sidebar does not show if Firefox is maximised, but it does everywhere else.20:09
grevesi'm almost tempted to just go full ubuntu, and if it weren't for office i would20:09
grevesafaik theres not exactly a very reliable way to run MS office in linux.. no?20:09
Si2100greves, you could put Office under wine ?20:09
MeQuerSatgreves: I went full ubuntu and just put Windows in a virtual machine in Ubuntu20:09
MeQuerSatOffice + wine = fail20:09
wolfmitchellNvm, it finally decided to work20:09
grevesya wine won't do i think20:09
RoadsterGTHow to install proprietary graphics driver?20:09
Si2100does20:09
grevesi am basically going to use the computer as an HTPC20:10
Si2100i got Office 200720:10
MeQuerSatIm talking about the latest Office20:10
greveswill ubuntu have any video file format problems?20:10
MeQuerSat2003/2007 work, kinda20:10
Si2100yeah20:10
Si2100i use Thunderbird for Email20:10
MeQuerSatgreves: file format problems? not at all20:10
MeQuerSatvideo display problems? maybe20:10
grevesah...20:10
bekksgreves: codec problems is what you are meaning...20:10
grevesi want to run from the motherboards HDMI to 1920x1080 TV20:11
MeQuerSatRoadsterGT, amd or nvidia?20:11
grevesbekks yes codec sorry20:11
RoadsterGTMedjai, nvidia20:11
MeQuerSatgreves, youre using a sandybridge i3 ?20:11
grevesMeQuerSat sandy bridge celeron g530 (onboard graphics)20:11
MeQuerSatouch20:11
MedjaiWhat's that RoadsterGT ?20:12
greveshey i'm not gaming here and reviews all say g530 can more than handle 1080p which is all i need20:12
MeQuerSatI currently have a Intel Pentium G620 on a Z68 motherboard20:12
grevesplus i can drop in an ivy bridge later next year :)20:12
MeQuerSatand I will drop ivy bridge in too :P20:12
MeQuerSatbut its pretty hard to display video without tearing20:12
grevesso will ubuntu have any problems showing 1920x1080 resolution on the tv?20:12
RoadsterGTMedjai, nvidia 9600m gt20:13
RoadsterGTMeQuerSat,20:13
RoadsterGTsorry20:13
Medjailol I thought you meant him20:13
MeQuerSatgreves: you should really try it and see for yourself20:13
Medjaijust making sure20:13
grevesMeQuerSat: is that because onboard video drivers are lacking?20:13
MeQuerSatRoadsterGT, so "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current"20:13
MeQuerSatgreves: no, because drivers for Linux are lacking20:13
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RoadsterGTsweet20:14
RoadsterGTty MeQuerSat20:14
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grevesMeQuerSat: that's what i mean. i know it will work fine in win7, but if it's going to have issues playing 1080p smoothly in ubuntu that will be a deal breaker20:14
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MeQuerSatgreves: I have a better setup than you and Im having difficulties getting good 1080p playback20:15
grevesMeQuerSat drats... well, then maybe that will just rule out ubuntu altogether...20:15
MeQuerSatif better intel video drivers get released, no problem20:15
MeQuerSatbut atm :/20:15
brondyhow do i edit the grub menu to make one partition the default and get rid of all the extra kernels  - this is 10 04 lts20:15
grevesMeQuerSat 720p no issues i suppose?20:15
MeQuerSatwell, tearing20:15
brontosaurusrexgreves, MeQuerSat so this intel gpus are supposed to have some sort of h264 decoding support, right?20:16
MeQuerSatyeah, but its a pita to get that working under Linux20:16
MeQuerSatgreves: an ubuntu install will take 20 minutes20:16
brontosaurusrexMeQuerSat, how is the technology called , was it quicksand or something like that?20:16
MeQuerSatgreves: just give it a try20:16
grevesMeQuerSat: are you using these? http://intellinuxgraphics.org/2011Q3.html20:17
MeQuerSatgreves: im using the official ubuntu drivers20:17
MeQuerSatprobably the same as you posted20:17
brontosaurusrexi have a smooth 1080p playback on an eee asus, but thats well supported nvidia ion20:17
MeQuerSat2.17.0 here atm20:17
brontosaurusrexwith nvidia drivers that is20:17
greveswell wtf is wrong with intel that they can't put out decent linux drivers20:18
MeQuerSatwell, playback is pretty smooth20:18
MeQuerSatexcept for tearing20:18
MeQuerSatcant wait for the intel devs to implement a working vsync option20:19
greveshmmm20:19
greveswell, maybe i'll give it a shot20:19
greveswhat is good virtualization software to install windows under?20:20
gmzljMeQuerSat: try mplayer-vaapi20:20
grevesand will my g530 handle that ok?20:20
gmzljMeQuerSat: don't know how to find it for ubuntu20:20
MeQuerSatgmzlj, like I said before: its a pita to get that working20:20
dougldoes anyone have any suggestions for an alternative (more full featured/options) to the open gl screen saver that comes with ubuntu 10??20:20
MeQuerSatgreves: probably not20:20
gmzljMeQuerSat: vo=vaapi and it just works for me20:20
MeQuerSatgreves: but just give it a try20:20
grevesMeQuerSat: yeah, perhaps20:20
MeQuerSatgmzlj, standard mplayer isnt built with vaapi20:20
gmzljMeQuerSat: yes, theres a fork20:21
MeQuerSatgmzlj, care to give me a link?20:21
grevesMeQuerSat: would booting from a usb be a good enough representation of 1080p playback capabilities?20:21
gmzljarchlinux packages mplayer-vaapi, which is where i use it20:22
gmzljso i don't know about ubuntu20:22
MeQuerSatoh, ok20:22
jayladok when i add a new user they don't have any permissions to their home folder but they can view files outside their home folder but not in. ive tried chown user /home/user to the user and its still not working. any help?20:22
gmzljbut its in archlinux's community so its supported20:22
theadmingmzlj: lol, using Arch too?20:22
MeQuerSatgreves: yeah, it would be20:22
gmzljyes20:22
w1reshi guys, I made a script I want to run when ubuntu starts up (for x11), what is the best location to put it?20:23
dougldoes anyone have any suggestions for an alternative (more full featured/options) to the open gl slide show screen saver that comes with ubuntu 10.4 - err?20:23
grevesMeQuerSat: ok i'll download the liveusb then and try that first... thanks for all the information. cheers!20:23
MeQuerSatgreves: oh, make sure to get the 64bit variant ;)20:23
theadminw1res: Search for "Startup Applications" in the dash20:23
gmzljtheadmin: yes, why?20:23
MitochondriaRunning linux off a USB drive should be alright to play video files in 1080P. Assuming the system can handle it20:24
grevesMeQuerSat, yup already downloading20:24
theadmingmzlj: Ah not much, just I myself am an Arch user as well :D Mind pm'ing me?20:24
jayladok when i add a new user they don't have any permissions to their home folder but they can view files outside their home folder but not in. ive tried chown user /home/user to the user and its still not working. any help?20:24
w1restheadmin: that's what I used to start the script, but I just put it in my user directory, is that ok?20:24
grevesi'll just throw a 1080p file on the usb stick to try playing20:24
MitochondriaUNetbootin allows for the installation of various Linux/BSD distributions to a partition or USB drive, so it's no different from a standard install, only it doesn't need a CD. It can create a dual-boot install, or replace the existing OS entirely.20:24
theadminw1res: Sure, though a better place is ~/bin or ~/.local/bin20:24
grevesah i love 50Mbps line... download already complete :)20:25
MeQuerSat50mbps? tsss20:25
MeQuerSat120mbit ;)20:25
w1resthanks20:25
MeQuerSatbut yeah, gotta love the ubuntu servers20:26
jayladis any one here any good with unix file permissions?20:26
lkwells_I have a question about a graphics card?20:26
bekkslkwells_: Maybe you have a question? :)20:26
MeQuerSatjaylad, what did the command line say when you did a "sudo -i"20:26
MitochondriaUbuntu servers ****ing me, or perhaps linux just hates my wireless card.20:26
theadminjaylad: Most of us are.20:26
jayladi didn't sudo im logged in as root20:27
lkwells_yep i guess i need one for ubuntu 11,10 o?20:27
Sidewinder1jaylad, That sounds strange; I know that's not helping but if a new user doesn't have access to their own /home, perhaps you set it up incorrectly? Just a WAG on my part..20:27
MeQuerSatjaylad, then what did the command line say after you did the "chown"20:27
alien2050jaylad: did you try a chown -R (recursive) otherwise it won't work20:27
alien2050there are a lot of dot files in users home directories20:28
jayladnothing just did it but the user still doesn't have any file permissions20:28
grevesMeQuerSat: dunno about yours but mine is just a personal home connection for ~$30/month :)20:28
alien2050be sure you're IN the /home directory20:28
alien2050of the user20:28
junglejimHi, anyone know what happened to the Karmic archives? They were there last week on http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ but now they are no longer there ????20:28
MeQuerSatgreves, 70 euros/moth here :/20:28
theadminjunglejim: Karmic is EOL, so no big surprise.20:29
alien2050otherwise you can scrap a lot of things20:29
grevesMeQuerSat: including ~500 channels of IPTV20:29
grevesMeQuerSat and the iptv digital box, etc20:29
MeQuerSatgreves: who watches tv anymore?20:29
grevesMeQuerSat: my girlfriend watches all the import korean and indian soap operas here (taiwan)... hah20:29
lkwells_it told me it would have trouble since it didn't reconize the VGA card i had (on the motherboard)20:29
grevesMeQuerSat: can't download those on BT20:29
MeQuerSatyeah, cant download something that horrible20:30
grevesexactly20:30
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junglejimtheadmin: Hmmm ... so what happens now? I'm currently on Maverick but I use the PHP from Karmic (5.2.x) as some of my software only works with 5.2.x20:31
penguin_03i built some packages from deb-source the version i labeled them is the same as currently provided in the repos however the update manager seems to want to overwrite them is there a way to fix this?20:31
theadminjunglejim: Now? Well, everything Karmic-related will be removed from everywhere but http://old-releases.ubuntu.com20:31
lkwells_the display works but has very slow refresh rate20:31
jayladjust created a new user now and its saying this when i log in "Could not chdir to home directory /home/jamiepptest: Permission denied20:32
jaylad-bash: /home/jamiepptest/.bash_profile: Permission denied20:32
jaylad"20:32
luca_biI'm using OCRfeeder but the text is not the same that pdf20:33
grevesMeQuerSat: gotta get to sleep, 4:30am. cya20:33
luca_biHow can I do?20:33
dj_whohi all20:33
luca_biI want to transform a pdf in a file text20:33
luca_bior in a file cvs20:33
dj_whoI have problem with dvb-t on ubuntu20:33
junglejimtheadmin: so that means that there are no more updates especially security updates for Karmic. How do I get to use PHP 5.2.x then  ... as all the new versions of ubuntu install PHP 5.3.x ??20:33
luca_bibecause  i want to put them on line20:33
dj_whocan somebody help20:34
luca_bihow can i do?20:34
dj_who?20:34
penguin_03i built some packages from deb-source the version i labeled them is the same as currently provided in the repos however the update manager seems to want to overwrite them is there a way to fix this?20:34
yeats!details | dj_who20:34
ubottudj_who: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."20:34
yeats!pin | penguin_0320:35
ubottupenguin_03: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto20:35
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lkwells_any hardware wizards here?20:36
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kathikeyanHey, What's wrong?20:36
penguin_03yeats, that doesn't really fix the problem if there (really) are updates available for the package i want to see them and probably install them too20:37
lkwells_well i need a video card for 11.10?20:37
dj_whoUbuntu 11.10 DVB-t card: MD95700 modules seems to load properly, femon and tzap showing than are  about 40% siglan 100%snr  ber andunc are "0" but when i'm trying to watch in vlc i get "scrambled" picture20:38
lkwells_when 11.10 installed it said graphics would have problems but i installed anyway20:38
kathikeyanyou running dual boot20:38
kathikeyan?20:38
dj_whowhat is interesting on the top of the picture i see "good" picsels20:39
lkwells_no just ubuntu nothing else20:39
dj_whoso i no for example what station is playing now20:39
luca_biHow can I convert a pdf scannered in a file cvs20:39
luca_bi?20:39
kathikeyani had the same issue when i use both windows and ubuntu20:39
kathikeyannow, it is fine, i am using only ubunut20:40
AlTheKillerAnyone know if there's a way to tell ubiquity not to install the bootloader?20:40
skilzAnyone know an OSD program that works with Fluxbox to show volume when I change it & when I press caps lock ect?20:40
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penguin_03yeats, did you notice the part where it says "so you should probably not do this on an Ubuntu system."?20:40
jayladi add a new user and they don't have permissions to their home folder. whats the best course of action?20:41
win2linux? How can I fix synaptic, it wont start when i click on icon, if I do gksudo it doesn't start and if i use sudo only it bounces on then off I have removed and purged it and reinstalled it same thing20:41
lkwells_can anyone recommend a graphics card for 11.10?20:41
dj_whoalso i try to record TS stream and play it on windows and it is broken20:41
dj_whoso i know that TS decoding is working properly20:42
skilzlkwells_, A $50 one20:42
jayladmequersat20:42
fish__hello, I am having trouble starting ubuntu could someone please help me.20:42
lkwells_skitz great20:42
jayladmequersat,20:42
wapiflapihi20:43
phibxrfish__, if you describe your trouble, it's going to be a bit easier for someone to help you out.20:43
lkwells_skitz i missed the model and company sorry20:43
dj_whothat's everything i think, anyone can help?20:43
MeQuerSatjaylad, yes?20:45
jayladi add a new user and they don't have permissions to their home folder. whats the best course of action?20:45
MeQuerSatexactly as I described earlier...20:46
fish__okay.when i boot, it goes to the console and i get a message saying "Stopping System V runlevel compatibility" *starting CUPS printing spooler/server could someone please help??20:46
jayladwhat was that20:46
jaylad?20:46
bekksjaylad: How do you add them? did you create their folders before? If so, dont do it.20:46
lkwells_can anyone recommend a graphics card for 11.10?20:46
jayladi just typed adduser20:46
jayladand the username20:46
dj_whofemon saying:20:46
dj_whooptions dvb_usb_cxusb force_lna_activation=120:46
dj_whosoty20:47
dj_whosory20:47
dj_whofemon saying: status SCVYL | signal  45% | snr 100% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK20:47
lkwells_hello?20:48
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bekks!hcl | lkwells_20:48
ubottulkwells_: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection20:48
fish__Stopping system V runlevel compatibility  starting cups printing spooler/server I get this error when trying to start ubuntu20:49
fellayaboy!wacom20:50
fellayaboyhow do i install wacom tablets for 11.0420:50
awdwdHi, can i use the Wubi installer to get 64bit ubuntu? or is it only for 32bit ubuntu?20:51
dssdsdsdssd20:52
stephen_greetings from Tanzania!20:53
MeQuerSatlkwells_, any nvidia card20:53
lkwells_thanks MeQuerSat20:54
lkwells_so nvidia cards are evga also?20:55
lkwells_i mean that is one of their brands?20:55
bekksevga? never heard of it.20:55
yeatslkwells_: yes - I have an evga nvidia card20:56
ManaPiratedjump #debian20:57
ShirakawasunaI'm having issues resolving certain hosts (I think). I've tried different DNS but not much improvement (I normally use 8.8.8.8, tried 4.2.21, now using ISPs). e.g. I try to load this page: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/marlin-gets-unity-progress-bar-support.html#more and it just sits there after loading a small amount of the page, presumably waiting for the rest of the elements to load (perhaps on another server - image server, et20:57
Shirakawasunac).20:57
FloodBot1Shirakawasuna: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:57
Shirakawasunanow google is doing it :/20:58
liuxuaha20:59
bowiehi, everybody! :)20:59
bowieguys, I;m sorry for noobish questions and for asking them here, but maybe somebody knows what is sgfxi thing is?21:00
bowiei need to install video driver21:00
bowieand have no idea how does it work21:00
UncleTunahelp.ubuntu.com21:01
Sidewinder1bowie, Please state the graphics card under use..21:02
Shirakawasunabowie: I've never used it... so I don't know whether it's necessary.21:02
bowiei have nvidia fx 550021:02
Shirakawasunahmmm21:03
ShirakawasunaI think I had one of those once21:03
Shirakawasunais that AGP, bowie?21:03
Sidewinder1bowie, Have you enabled "Restricted Extras" in your repositories in Synaptic?21:04
xangua!nvidia | bowie21:04
ubottubowie: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto21:04
bowieactually I'm using AV linux which is based on debian and I'm sorry for asking such question there but Instructions on the web site gave me nothing :(21:04
default__I Can help irssi in Portugueses please21:04
yeats!pt | default__21:04
ubottudefault__: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.21:04
Shirakawasunabowie: k... well ubuntu has some helper apps that debian doesn't for this kind of thing.21:04
Sidewinder1Yea, what xangua and ubottu said..21:04
bowiey..21:05
Shirakawasunabowie: you're going to need to install an older version-type of the nvidia driver, most likely. It's part of the NV30 series.21:05
fluvvelllong term ubuntu user seeks help with failed upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10. No desktop controls, unity not running, no gnome-panel. Have run apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and no success even with all user settings in home directory hidden in a backup folder.21:05
Sidewinder1bowie, Gotta read the "how-tos".21:05
Shirakawasunabowie: though you might also be able to use nouveau - do you need high-performance graphics for gaming?21:06
escottfluvvell, have you tried installing and choosing unity-2d from the login menu21:06
Shirakawasunafluvvell: try making a new test user and logging in with them - it's better than attempting to find all user settings21:06
fluvvellescott, nope, just did and thanks. so whats the deal there?21:07
bowiein fact21:07
bowieyes21:07
bowiereally21:07
bowiefor game dev21:07
FloodBot1bowie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.21:07
Space-DuckHow can I enable mod_rewrite in xubuntu? I've already change allow_override all  but I still get a 404.21:07
fluvvellI have an ASUS motherboard with built in intel graphics, surely this is fairly standard?21:07
escottfluvvell, if unity 2d is working but unity is not then its a video card issue. you may need to install proprietary drivers with jockey-gtk to get your video card to work21:07
fluvvellescott, will do that now.21:08
yeatsSpace-Duck: 'sudo a2enmod rewrite'?21:08
Shirakawasunabowie: k. That's actually a really old card to be using for that. Or is it a quadro fx 5500?21:08
fluvvellescott, intel graphics needs proprietory drivers???21:08
escottfluvvell, if your graphics are intel then there are no proprietary drivers for that. its possible that an older intel may not be supported well enough for unity21:08
fluvvellescott, motherboard less than a year old!!21:09
Space-Duckyeats, ERROR: Module rewrite not properly enabled: /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/rewrite.load is a real file, not touching it21:09
bowieShirakawasuna, no, but i need it for old school 8 bit games, without driver it will lag ;(21:09
bekksfluvvell: That doesnt mean it has a current graphics chipset onboard.21:09
escottfluvvell, what kind of chipset do you have21:09
brontosaurusrexSpace-Duck, did you restart server?21:09
fluvvellescott, intel 915 i think, just going to look now21:10
Space-Duckbrontosaurusrex, yep. I made touched the rewrite.load file when I edited it21:10
Space-DuckDo I need to chmod it?21:10
Shirakawasunabowie: ok, so two options21:11
Shirakawasunabowie: 1) proprietary driver, probably need to use one of the older packages: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#non-free_drivers21:11
Shirakawasunabowie: so this will be nvidia-173 or nvidia-96, you'll have to see which one support geforce 5 / NV30 cards21:11
Shirakawasunabowie: 2) nouveau with gallium 3d. This is still experimental, but might 'just work'.21:11
yeatsSpace-Duck: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=118011221:12
fluvvellescott, i915 driver loaded, lspci reports intel integrated graphics. i5 motherboard iirc21:12
bowieShira, tnx, bro, but the problem is i don't know how to install it21:12
bowiei mean i'm a noob21:12
crassusHi, so is there anyway I can sync my ebooks on my Ubuntu computer with my Nook, other than Calibre?21:13
dr_willisthe addational-drivers tool is the normal way to install nvidia drivers.21:13
Shirakawasunabowie: that first link should help you out - it includes installation instructions for debian.21:13
fluvvellbekks, how current would it need to be???? since when did ubuntu only support the most current of video drivers?21:13
bowie<Shirakawasuna> thanks a lot!21:14
bekksfluvvell: No one said that.21:14
bekksfluvvell: That was a remark regarding a very special chipset mentioned.21:14
spoqyo ubuntu21:15
escottfluvvell, intel marketing always confuses me. i dont understand how you can have 915 and core i5 in the same system21:15
fluvvellbekks, sorry not following re: very special chipset.21:16
Shirakawasunabowie: np! Just make sure you're using the right version. I *think* you want -173, but I'm not positive.21:16
fluvvellescott, just reporting lsmod21:16
escottfluvvell, if you have something marketed as a pentium or a centrino then you actually have a chip that is a few years old21:16
fluvvellescott, I put the motherboard in, and unless im mistaken (which i'll know once i dig out the box) its cpu is an i521:17
Space-Duckyeats, I followed the steps there and still get a 404.  a2enmod rewrite: returns: Module rewrite already enabled21:17
bowie<Shirakawasuna> yup, i used it in ubuntu (it was easy to install there) just need to find how to make it work on this distro :)21:17
ryan__Hi. Is there a way I can install programs from older Ubuntu repositories using Ubuntu 11.10?21:18
jribryan__: like?21:18
ryan__Natty is what I was wanting to install from21:18
jribryan__: what software?21:18
escottfluvvell, i dont think anything currently marketed as a core i-series has a 915 anything in it21:18
jrib!who | ryan__21:18
ubotturyan__: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)21:18
* dr_willis hops this isent anotehr person trying to install gnome2 again. :)21:18
fluvvellescott, i wonder if that kernel module shouldn't be there then?21:19
ryan__jrib: I wanted to install the package ubuntu-wallpapers21:19
win2linux?21:19
dr_willisryan__:  you could always just get the .deb of it and extact the wallpapers if you wanted the images21:20
ryan__How can I do that?21:20
jribryan__: isn't that still available? Did some wallpapers get lost?  I would just do what dr_willis suggested if so21:20
fluvvellescott, its a p7h55-m ASUS motherboard, and therefore either an i3 or an i521:20
xangua!info ubuntu-wallpapers | ryan__21:20
ubotturyan__: ubuntu-wallpapers (source: ubuntu-wallpapers): Ubuntu Wallpapers. In component main, is optional. Version 0.32.1 (oneiric), package size 2478 kB, installed size 2776 kB21:20
dr_willisi got 10gb of wallpapers ive collected. :) i dont worry about them much21:20
ryan__I didn't upgrade, it was a fresh install. I do not currently have the natty wallpapers.21:21
escottfluvvell, 915 is what the driver is called in lsmod. i thought you were reading that from your lspci21:21
dr_willismosyt likely any old wallpapers are avail in some repo packages.21:21
MVanDruffdoes anyone know how to set up a media share so that i can stream video music and pictures to say an x box or a ps321:21
win2linuxSyanptic package manager doesn't start when i click on icon, when i use terminal gksudo it doesn't start and when I use sudo it bounces on then off instantly and i have an error message or somthing, i've removed it and purged all config files and reinstalled it again same thing happens using gnome 3 classic on 11.10 any suggestions21:21
fluvvellescott, sorry for the confusion, i did both and reported both.21:21
dr_willisMVanDruff:  meditomb can do that.. perhaps other 'dlna' servers can also..  i imagine most can21:22
vvompyhi, I encrypted via GUI half a year ago my external partition and wrote down the generated passphrase, but forgot the password that I had to type in every time when I opened the encrypted filesystem via the GUI. I thought the password is not necessary, do I still have a possibility to reopen my hdd?21:22
escottfluvvell, what does glxinfo | grep renderer say21:22
PeloI get realy crappy scrolling with the mouse wheel in firefox, how do I fix that ?21:23
MVanDruffdr_willis, is meditomb in the repository?21:23
bazhangMVanDruff, mediatomb21:23
dr_willisMVanDruff:  try an apt-cache search and see...21:23
xanguaPelo: disable smooth scroll on firefox preferences21:23
fluvvellescott, cool! thanks, haven't used that one before :-) Open renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ironlake Desktop x86/MMX/SSE221:24
ryan__How can I install the .deb file of the Ubuntu Natty wallpapers in Ubuntu 11.10 (the package ubuntu-wallpapers)21:24
escottvvompy, it depends on what kind of encryption this is, but usually you have a short password 8-16 characters that you can remember which unlocks a longer file with a full length key of some kind. so if you have that original unencrypted file21:24
dr_willisryan__: get the .deb  and sudo dpkg -i foo.deb  is one way21:24
escottfluvvell, that looks good21:24
fluvvell:)21:24
escottfluvvell, does glxgears work21:24
Peloxangua, nothing ,21:24
fluvvellescott, a bit clunky but yes.21:25
Peloxangua, if it helps, it's like the scroll wheels makes it scroll 1/8"21:25
escottfluvvell, it should be smooth (even if it were fully cpu it should still be smooth)21:25
fluvvellie not smoothly. on this laptop (a much older hp) its smoothe as butter.21:26
vvompyescott: i guess it was ecryptfs..do you know how to test my passphrase ?21:26
geekette86slt21:26
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escottfluvvell, then something is off. you should be getting a framerate=to your refresh rate. what are you getting21:26
fluvvellescott, yes framerate reading off at 60fps, but it sure as heck isn't21:27
dj_whofluvvell try vblank_mode=0 glxgears21:27
ZeranoeHow can I tell where my flash drive is mounted from? Such as /dev/xxx, how can I find which one corresponds to my flashdrive?21:29
fluvvelldj_who, Ahh!! just rebooting, I had 5 X sessions running apparently!!!!!!21:29
escottvvompy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory21:30
escottZeranoe, type "mount" at the command line and it will tell you what is mounted where21:31
ryan__How can I find the .deb package of a certain file from the Ubuntu repositories, and then install it using terminal?21:31
blackwirei have a little problem21:31
fluvvellescott, dj_who, still jerky gears.21:31
escottZeranoe, sudo blkid will map uuids to devices21:31
MVanDruffdr_willis, according to media tomb it should already be here how do i enable it?21:32
escottryan__, install and use apt-file or use packages.ubuntu.com21:32
dbuggerHey guys!21:32
dbuggerWhat is the folder for the Gedit plugins? I cant seem to find it...21:32
enigmahi any have ideas for this >>    Cannot install 'ia32-libs'      is comes then i try istall skype in ubuntu 11.1021:32
dr_willisMVanDruff:  no idea.  read its docs/guides.21:33
dr_willisMVanDruff:  i just recall reading it was designed to do that.21:33
Kasei1hey guys, i have a problem with my ethernet, it is only runing on 10Mbps. Card and router support 100Mbps. using ethtool -s eth0 speed 100 duplex full autoneg on leads to a disconnect of the connection, setting it back to 10 duplex full autoneg on let me connect again21:35
alessandro97xdcc send21:35
Kasei1its an Atheros AR8121/AR8113/AR811421:35
alessandro97pd21:35
escottenigma, the way i386 is handled has changed in 11:10. it now uses multiarch. you just install package:i386 for the libraries you need. get an updated deb of skype or manually install the dependencies21:35
win2linuxsolved my problem, if it happens to anyone go into settings>universal access>toggle screen reader on and off causes synaptic to crash21:36
EffexIs it possible to stop the screen from powering down after 10 minutes of inactivity while using a fullscreen terminal?21:36
dj_whoI repeat my question more compact:21:36
win2linuxi meant screen reader causes synaptic to crash toggling it on then off fixes the problem21:36
dr_willisEffex:  you mean the console? or in an X terminal?21:36
EffexConsole21:36
dj_whoUbuntu 11.10 DVB-t card: MD95700 modules seems to load properly, femon and tzap showing than are  about 40% siglan 100%snr  ber andunc are "0" but when i'm trying to watch in vlc i get "scrambled" picture.21:37
dj_whoWhat is interesting that on the top of the picture i see "good" picsels. So i no for example what station is playing now, also i try to record TS stream and play it on windows and it is broken , so i know that TS decoding is working properly. Femon saying: status SCVYL | signal  45% | snr 100% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK21:37
FloodBot1dj_who: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.21:37
dr_willisEffex:  theres a setting for it.. but i forget where/how.21:37
escottfluvvell, im afraid im not sure how to debug this. you can doublecheck that the glxinfo is correct and look through the /var/log/Xorg.0.log21:37
ResQuei am running ubuntu 11.04 and something seems to be randomly changeing the start location of the stack, i need to disable this any ideas? maybe its grsecurity or apparmor21:37
dj_whoany one can help?21:38
phaktorI just updated to Ubuntu 11.10, and now it does not detect any HID devices (mouse/keyboard) that I plug in. Anybody have any information about this type of bug?21:38
enigmathankyou21:38
escottResQue, try disabling through /proc https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Features#Address_Space_Layout_Randomisation_.28ASLR.2921:39
fluvvellescott, i'm not highly impressed with this upgrade. My experience has been that the one before a long term release seems to be the most fraught with "user suprise!!" issues, oneric is no exeption.21:40
ResQueescott: thanks, sounds like what i need.21:40
nyarlatotephello everybody21:41
fluvvellhowever, I've got it working at least in ubuntu 2D. But this system is fully capable of much more. I'll go digging in the Xorg Logs21:41
nyarlatotepis there anyone with Sony Vaio f11?21:41
escottfluvvell, you might try reinstalling. but the core i-series should be well supported21:41
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genii-aroundphaktor: Did the machine just warm reboot, or actual power-off power-on cycle since the upgrade?21:41
phaktorgenii-around : I'm pretty sure I've done both. I'll go power cycle it again (just rebooted over ssh and it seems to be hanging)21:42
fluvvellescott, yes I'd agree with the support expectations. Funny how if i try to switch back to the 3d desktop I just get background picture.21:43
escottfluvvell, you could try and start unity from tty1 (you will have to export DISPLAY=:0 firt21:44
escottfluvvell, just run unity --replace from tty1 after setting the display variable21:45
nimbioticshello evry1. Is there a GUI for mencoder any1 can recomend? TIA!21:45
morrihoi guys21:45
silvinahhgggfg21:45
bazhangnimbiotics, winff ?21:45
silvinakkk21:46
bazhangsilvina, english here please21:46
fluvvellescott, yep thats working...21:46
UncleTunabazhang, that was...no?21:46
nimbioticsbazhang: but im having trouble converting mkv with multi lang choices in winff21:46
silvinaoh,yes,of course21:46
silvinahello21:47
bazhangnimbiotics, converting to what21:47
ResQueescott: nice work mate, thanks for pointing me in the right direction. if anyone else is interested to disable random stack start location run this "sysctl -w kernel.randomize_va_space=0"21:47
nimbioticsbazhang: to avi or any other decent format21:47
bazhangnimbiotics, m4v?21:48
silvinasay me?'21:48
bazhangsilvina, ubuntu support question?21:48
nimbioticsbazhang: that a package?21:48
silvinacose dice??21:48
morriare there any known issues with the cutrrent email programmes such as evolution or thunderbird in terms of connecting to microsoft exchange servers?21:48
brontosaurusrexnimbiotics, if you are trying to just get rid of extra languages there are better options21:48
bazhang!it | silvina21:48
ubottusilvina: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)21:48
junglejimI need to downgrade my PHP to 5.2.x from 5.3.x  Certain software I currently use requires it. I found all these link explaining how to do it but they no longer work because they show you how to use the Karmic archives to downgrade but as those archives no longer exist on archive.ubuntu.com  http://askubuntu.com/questions/61101/downgrade-php-to-php5-2  http://askubuntu.com/questions/47103/how-to-downgrade-from-php-5-3-to-php-5-2-in-ubunt21:48
phaktorgenii-around : just finished power cycling , No love. I'v'e got one mouse plugged in though a kvm and one straight to the box neither move the cursor. the keyboard is useless aswell.21:48
escott!pinning | junglejim21:48
ubottujunglejim: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto21:48
nimbioticsbrontosaurusrex: please xplain yourself. I have many different videos, some of them multifiles, and i only need one language21:49
nimbioticsbrontosaurusrex: and all mkv21:49
bazhangnimbiotics, I use handbrake for that21:49
Sidewinder1nimbiotics, There is Nero for linux but one has to pay$, I only mention it as it's an alternitive for re-encoding..21:49
j-padhey guys, im having a problem when i plug in my headphones my computer mutes21:50
brontosaurusrexnimbiotics, http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/21:50
brontosaurusrexnimbiotics, but check if this is in repos first21:50
UncleTunaplug them into the headphone port...21:50
nimbioticsbrontosaurusrex: OK, THX a lot!21:51
j-padyes21:51
genii-aroundphaktor: Are you ssh'd in as well?21:51
brontosaurusrexnimbiotics, it will allow you to remux the videos without reconversions and let you just keep the tracks you need21:51
bazhangnimbiotics, handbrake is really what you need here21:51
phaktorgenii-around : Yes I can ssh in21:51
nimbioticsbrontosaurusrex: what does remux mean?21:51
brontosaurusrexnimbiotics, repack21:51
nimbioticsbrontosaurusrex: OIC, thx'21:51
Kellearhello21:51
genii-aroundphaktor: I would suggest to make sure xserver-xorg-input-evdev is installed21:52
escottj-pad, if you have a newer laptop with intel sound then it could be that that output port for the headphones is being confused with something else (like the digital output) and its just being routed wrong. you might look at debugging hda sound tips from alsa21:52
nimbioticsbazhang: will also check handbrake, THX21:52
* fluvvell steps back off the tardis a bit dazed...21:52
phaktorgenii-around : already installed21:53
j-padok escot how do i do that?...btw if i leave them plugged in & restart my comp they work but once i unplug them & plug them back in it stops again21:53
escottj-pad, http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Help_To_Debug_Intel_HDA21:53
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KellearI just installed a software (lmms), it works fine but it's not in the top-left icon (on xubuntu where are all my softwares icons) how can I put it there?21:54
junglejimescott: thx ... I'll check it out21:54
UncleTunaHow do I mute server msg's? Join/Exit/Disco/Etc...21:54
bazhangUncleTuna, what client21:54
UncleTunabazhang: 1 moment...21:55
junglejimubottu: thx, I'll check it out21:55
ubottujunglejim: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:55
phaktorgenii-around : it's like the entire ubs subsystem is not working (I see some hubs but none of the devices I have plugged in)21:55
phaktorer USB21:56
UncleTunathis is embarrassing.21:56
magpiimy firestarter firewall keeps stopping. can someone tell me how to produce a log file for it please21:57
JeffMHow can I bridge two network interfaces without losing network connectivity on the bridging computer? I have tried to use IP Route, but it is throwing errors21:58
escott!ics | JeffM21:59
ubottuJeffM: If you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing21:59
BluesKajJeffM, add the bridged and networked pcs IPs to /etc/hosts.allow , on all machines21:59
genii-aroundphaktor: dmesg is not seeing them when plug in/out ?21:59
UncleTunammm, leftovers from T-Day...bbl.22:00
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phaktorgenii-around : Nope22:00
genii-aroundphaktor: Does that machine have internet?22:01
phaktoryea22:01
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genii-aroundphaktor: If you have pastebinit installed, please post the output of apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-input-*22:03
GardllokWill an Xbox360 on the same network connect to a ubuntu PC and access its media automatically, or does it require additional 'assembly' to establish connection?22:04
escott!samba | Gardllok22:04
ubottuGardllok: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.22:04
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phaktorgenii-around : http://paste.ubuntu.com/749726/22:05
Christina`Is it possible to frugal install and format the hard drive (putting on ubuntu)?22:05
Christina`That is using unetbootin.22:06
pistois there a command line to change the volume?22:06
JeffMBlueskaj, trying it out.  I am trying to set up my Ubuntu machine as a Wireless Access Point, with DHCP done on the router22:06
pistowith exactly the same effect as pushing the volume up/down keys on keyboard? don't suggest sending virtual keystrokes, I can't use that.22:06
helloworldHello! I wonder if it's possible to dualboot windows xp with ubuntu 11.10 by following the steps in this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot . I'm not quite sure if this guide only is for vista and windows 7. Just wanted to know before I format my drive.22:07
Gardllokokay, so I need an emulator to establish connection to the xbox but what about other streaming devices? Im asking because i want to set a Ubuntu family PC streaming media to various devices on my home network.22:07
genii-aroundphaktor: Notably xserver-xorg-input-kbd is not installed22:08
Christina`Is it possible to frugal install and format the hard drive (putting on ubuntu), using unetbootin?22:08
GardllokI guess it would be the same either way....Or would work all together with the one emulator22:09
skilzhow do i change my laptop from blank screen to hibernate when i close lid?22:09
skilzor suspend even22:09
hayxorsystem settings   to   screensaver i think22:09
hayxorunder power managment22:10
Christina`Is it possible to frugal install and format the hard drive (putting on ubuntu), using unetbootin?22:11
escottChristina`, what do you mean by frugal22:11
Christina`escott: Booting off the hard drive using an iso.22:12
phaktorgenii-around : installed and restarted Xserver still no love.22:12
genii-aroundphaktor: Please pastebin result of: ls -l /dev/input/by-path/22:13
escottChristina`, you want to install an iso to the harddrive and boot it that way? yes you can, im not sure why you would want to22:13
phaktorgenii-around : ls: cannot access /dev/input/by-path/: No such file or directory22:14
genii-aroundInteresting22:14
genii-aroundphaktor: Does /dev/input  exist?22:15
Christina`escott: I want use -> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ <-- this to "Frugal" ubuntu, and get rid of windows 7.22:15
milen8204I have a problem, my firefox browser messed up the settings, how to reinstall it  without all old settings ?22:16
rjsj316how do i install and use bittorrent with linux/ubntu/mint1122:16
escottChristina`, I still dont know what you mean by frugal. What you are describing is technically possible. I see no reason why you would want to do what you are describing22:16
EffexIs it possible to change the directory for receiving bluetooth files (Currently Downloads)?22:17
Christina`escott: I just told you why, I said I wanted to get RID of windows 7.22:17
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brontosaurusrexrjsj316, transmission comes preinstalled22:17
bazhang!mintsupport | rjsj31622:17
ubotturjsj316: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org22:17
escottChristina`, so why not do a normal install22:17
Christina`escott: I don't have a usb drive OR SD card for this netbook. THATS why.22:18
setuidHow do I get Ubuntu (Lucid) to show me a selectable grub menu before the boot splash, so I can pick a kernel before it boots up and asks me for my encrypted password to unlock / ?22:18
phaktorgenii-around /dev/input exits and has mice as the only entry.22:19
phaktorgenii-around I just found an old ps2 keyboard, and it works. so I think it is something with the USB system.22:19
escottChristina`, without a way to boot your netbook off an external device you will have a brick at the first failure. you should get a usb stick and make yourself a bootable liveusb22:19
escottsetuid, /etc/default/grub has a timeout you can change then rerun update-grub22:20
escottmilen8204, firefox settings are in ~/.mozilla. just rename that directory22:20
genii-aroundphaktor: Hm. I would suggest to try: sudo modprobe usbkbd && sudo modprobe usbmouse      ... and then to see if dmesg shows stuff on plug/unplug, as well if /dev/input/  starts to get populated22:21
phaktorgenii-around with the keyboard in I now get a respone from ls -l /dev/input/by-path : http://paste.ubuntu.com/749736/22:21
Christina`escott: Instead would it work if I just made another partition on the hard drive? And let it delete my other primary partition that has windows so it would be already unmounted and ready to go since it wouldnt be using that partition that would work don;t you think?22:21
escottChristina`, you cannot repartition an active partition. so you still need an external media device to boot22:22
genii-aroundphaktor: Good :) Now to just get it seeing the usb stuff....22:22
milen8204escott, how can I setup the defout settings ?22:22
phaktorgenii-around : dmesg looks promising with the modprobes I'll go up and look now.22:22
escottmilen8204, just rename that directory and mozilla won't be able to find the old settings22:22
milen8204escott, thanks22:23
cipherboy_locWhat IR22:24
cipherboy_locSorrym22:24
cipherboy_loc, what irc app would you recommend for iPad (hence my bad job typing, lol)22:25
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tonyyarussocipherboy_loc: That sounds like a question for ##apple, unless you've found a way to run Ubuntu on an iPad.22:25
Christina`Oh God.22:26
Christina`I'll just stick to Windows before I go through with all this sh**22:26
Christina`XD22:26
cipherboy_locNot yet, tomorrow maybe. :P just thought I would ask here as I mainly run Ubuntu...22:26
Christina`It's an easier to O.S anyways.22:27
Christina`Windows^22:27
Christina`thanks yall.22:27
genii-aroundChristina`: If you need help with Ubuntu, this is the right channel. For Windows talk, you can /join ##windows22:28
EffexCan you use symbolic links on directories or just files?22:29
cipherboy_locDirectors work22:29
TakyojiHaving difficulty with a USB Bluetooth adapter, not being detected properly (as shown in dmesg, and not listed in hciconfig). Any magic that can be done, or any way I could help with getting the specific model working for Linux users, or any information I could bug the manufacturer for?22:29
cipherboy_locSorry22:29
cipherboy_locDirectories22:29
genii-aroundEffex: Works on directories also, yes22:29
EffexCheers22:29
cipherboy_loc:22:30
TakyojiThis would be the device: http://www.targus.com/us/productdetail.aspx?regionId=7&sku=ACB10US1&PageName=Cables%20&%20Hubs%20Accessories%20by%20Targus&productCategoryId=11&bucketTypeId=0&searchedTerms=&navlevel1=products&cp=&bannertxt=Cables%20%26%20Hubs%20Accessories22:30
cipherboy_locSorry, that was my question22:30
genii-aroundphaktor: Any joy yet?22:30
cipherboy_locTakyoji not to sound like a broken record,  but have you looked for missing/required drivers?22:31
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TakyojiThere are no proprietary drivers for the device.22:32
Element9how do I find which packages depend on a certain package?22:32
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TakyojiAnd bluez and all that is already installed.22:32
Element9so I that I know if it's safe to remove it22:32
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phaktorgenii-around : nope the module is register but no devices22:33
dooglusI'm trying to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10, but update-manager tells me there are no updates available.  how do I upgrade please?22:33
TakyojiThis is the output from dmesg when plugging in the device: http://paste.ubuntu.com/749752/22:34
genii-aroundphaktor: Can please pastebin lsmod output?22:34
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dooglusanybody?22:34
phaktorgenii-around http://paste.ubuntu.com/749754/22:35
Takyojidooglus: Go to 'Software Sources' and under the 'Updates' tab, make sure you have 'For any new version' for 'Notify me of a new Ubuntu version'22:36
dooglusTakyoji: thanks.  where is 'software sources'?22:37
TakyojiSystem > Administration > Software Sources, I believe.22:37
dooglusTakyoji: it goes from 'printing' to 'startup'22:37
TakyojiIf not there, go into Synaptic, and it should have 'Repositories' somewhere in one of the menu bar options.22:38
Takyoji'Settings > Repositories' in Synaptic22:38
radu_dudecan i make like a "system restore point " in ubuntu because i am nw and i made some settings and i hate to lose them when i try to modify somethings.22:38
bazhangradu_dude, backups?22:39
radu_dudeyep22:39
Takyojiradu_dude: The very basic manual way is to just archive the hidden folders in your home directory.22:39
FuzyDoes anyone know where I can download the ubuntu desktop graphical installer so I can run it from another linux desktop?  I have lvm installed and would like to use the ubuntu graphical installer in debian to install to a new lvm slice22:39
bazhangradu_dude, got a separate home partition?22:39
bazhangFuzy, ubiquity?22:40
Fuzyhrm22:40
radu_dude4 partitions 2 ntfs for windows 1 swap 1 ext422:40
Fuzythank you!22:40
bazhangradu_dude, a separate home would be the best insurance, along with backups of course22:40
dooglusTakyoji: I found the update tab.  'show new dist releases' was already set to 'normal releases'22:41
dooglusTakyoji: the other options are 'never' and 'lts'22:41
Fuzythis doesn't really help though, there's nothing to download22:41
bazhangradu_dude, unless you meant something like clonezilla to clone the whole thing22:41
Fuzynever mind22:41
TakyojiHave you even had it check for updates, and does it fail with checking for updates, or?22:41
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dooglusTakyoji: it checks for updates, but doesn't find any.  I guess they were applied recently22:42
ravita_kauranyone here can help me with vala, i want to change some codes in slingshot22:42
dooglusTakyoji: it's not my computer.  I'm trying to upgrade it because the owner is mad that it keeps crashing and losing her work.  she's using the 'W' word22:43
FightOppressionhi22:43
radu_dudebazhang: i can't find clonezilla in software22:43
ravita_kaurFightOppression : :)22:43
bazhangradu_dude, check their website22:43
GamiI have an wired internet connection issue. I've tried a few things that obviously haven't worked. I've tried different web browsers, I've tried changing network settings and I've tried editing config files.22:43
dooglussudo apt-get update appears to work fine.22:44
Takyoji'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' perhaps22:44
radu_dudebazhang, ok i;l do that22:44
dooglusTakyoji: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.22:44
GamiAny ideas on what I can try?22:45
Takyojiahh, "gksu update-manager -c"22:45
TakyojiFor distro upgrade22:45
dooglusTakyoji: sudo update-manager --dist-upgrade tells me (after a lot of thinking) "there are no upgrades available for your system"22:45
dooglusTakyoji: Usage: gksu [-u <user>] [options] <command>22:46
widewakeHey, whats best MSN messenger replacement for Ubuntu?22:47
dooglusTakyoji: "gksu: invalid option -- 'c'"22:47
widewakenot sure what to use, i see a few online22:47
Takyoji"update-manager --dist-upgrade" is the correct command, sorry.22:47
dooglusTakyoji: I'll try 'gksu "update-manager -c"' instead - it works!22:48
Takyoji(with sudo of course)22:48
dooglusTakyoji: the --dist-upgrade didn't work - it thought for a long time, but came back saying there were no updates available22:48
dooglusbut the update-manager -c is telling me 11.10 is available22:48
TakyojiYea, apparently the '-c' tells it to check for a distro upgrade I guess22:48
qindooglus: Is it not: do-release-upgrade ?22:49
dooglusqin: could be22:49
radu_dudebazhang, i did a backup with the backup from unity22:49
dooglusTakyoji: thanks for your help22:52
lucas-argi need help! can make kw-ub405-a tv usb stick work under ubuntu!22:52
gary_inNYCHow do I mount my ipod touch 2nd gen to rhythmbox using an openbox session instead of gnome?22:52
TakyojiYou're welcome22:52
Takyojilucas-arg: Try toying around with tvtime, it's been the easiest thing for me, "it just works"22:52
dooglusweird that I had to resort to the command line for something as simple as upgrading22:52
TakyojiYea, I know, it's a bit foolish22:52
lucas-argTakyoji: doesnt work--- im using v4l from git... can make it work22:53
phaktorgenii-around Thank you for you help, I'll have to beat on it later.22:53
MeQuerSatanyone having video tearing on intel sandy bridge?22:53
genii-aroundphaktor: No prob. Looks like some usb issues, maybe driver for the controller22:54
Takyojilucas-arg: See if there's anything known on here http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardware_Device_Information for your model, if listed anywhere on there22:54
lucas-argTakyoji: been there...22:55
phaktorgenii-around : yea that was one of my thoughts too . It looks like 11.10 went to the 3.0 kernel and that may be part of the issue. I just don't have all the time I need to trouble shoot it now.22:55
gary_inNYCanyone know how to mount ipod touch in an openbox session instead of gnome?22:55
TakyojiI can't think of much myself; tvtime has been really all I've used, as it's pretty much autoconfigured (unlike VLC, which I could never manage to work)22:56
Vampire0I'm still on Karmic (shame on me) because I didn't have time to do the upgrades yet. I need to install a new package. Is there someone still a repository mirror around? The official sources don't have karmic included anymore. :-(22:56
genii-aroundphaktor: Sorry not to resolve the issue. Will be here again on Monday if you still want to work away at it22:56
j-padwhen i plug in my headphones they go mute...i already went to alsamixer & when i unmute the speakers they work but once i unplug the headphones again & plug them back in they are mute again22:59
skilzj-pad, I have the same problem23:00
skilzits annoying23:00
pieroHi! Is my network used as a router to other users when I install tor on Ubuntu?23:00
lucav identify LucaBiolcati fili198223:01
chachinocuppy #ubuntu23:01
chachinocuppy #ubuntu23:01
chachinocuppy #ubuntu23:01
chachin:D23:01
Gardllokurch23:01
RyuGunslol23:01
gmzljchachin: but we're the 1%, not the 99%23:01
chachinlol23:02
Emerlinggmzlj, update 5%23:02
gmzljEmerling: whoes number?23:02
Emerlingwait o send link23:03
brianhermandoes the server kernel come with xen?23:04
Vampire0Ok, forget it, found one23:05
gmzljbrianherman: don't quote me, but i think ubuntu uses kvm23:05
j-paddoes any1 know what i could do for my problem? "when i plug in my headphones they go mute...i already went to alsamixer & when i unmute the speakers they work but once i unplug the headphones again & plug them back in they are mute again"23:05
tanathhow do you change the desktop background in gnome fallback from terminal? gconftool-2 --type string --set /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename "$file" isn't working anymore23:05
brianhermangmzij: 11.10 has support for xen23:05
gmzljtanath: its a dconf setting23:06
gmzljtanath: and its gnome-setting that handles it now23:06
avinashhmHi friends , i am having an audio cd ; is ther any command to mount it ; 'sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/sr0 /cdrom/' doesn't work ; complains wrong fs type23:06
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tanathgmzlj, gconf is what i'm trying to use..23:06
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gmzljtanath: its been moved to dconf23:07
fellayaboy#deviant23:07
gmzlj99% sure23:07
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tanathgmzlj, i don't have anything called dconf23:07
fellayaboywhats an irc channel of art23:07
huzzah_I'm running Ubuntu now and looking to make a live cd but my download isn't very fast. Is there a way to make a liveCd from my current install?23:07
gmzljtanath: /org/gnome/desktop/background/picture-uri23:07
tanathgmzlj, and the only 'gnome-setting' thing i have is 'gnome-settings-daemon'23:08
tanathgmzlj, so just change the path to that?23:08
gmzljtanath: gnome-setting-deamon handles desktop wallpaper, not nautilus, since gnome 323:08
gmzljtanath: actually my advice may be wrong23:08
gmzlji don't know about unity23:08
gmzljbut the gnome 3 dconf setting sits at /org/gnome/desktop/background/picture-uri23:09
jeffmCan anybody point me to a good guide to getting hostapd working on just an 'access point' computer? or NAT-less?23:09
gmzljtanath: and the tool is gsettings to change dconf settings23:09
tanathgmzlj, looks to be wrong... i tried the suggested path and it didn't work23:10
gmzljtanath: are you using gsettings?23:10
tanather, no23:10
genii-aroundhuzzah_: If you feel brave there is an old but good article on the subject at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68887223:11
gmzljtanath: gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri23:11
gmzljthat should get you your wallpaper23:12
huzzah_lank genii-around23:12
huzzah_thanks*23:12
gmzljif it does, change set to get23:12
genii-aroundhuzzah_: No prob23:12
FFForevercan I reset my apache2 configurations?23:12
tanathgmzlj, i keep getting usage errors with gsettings. even with that23:12
FFForeverI tried removing the apache2 package, deleting /etc/apache2/, but it seems that I've made a mess of things23:13
gmzljtanath: what errors23:13
tanathgmzlj, having trouble figuring out what it wants23:13
gmzljwhats the error23:13
gmzljexact message23:13
tanathgmzlj, keeps giving the usage syntax23:13
tanathgmzlj, trying to follow it, but nothing is working23:13
gmzljexact error23:13
tanathgmzlj, try 'gsettings hoobajoo' and you'll see it23:14
tanathfor isntance23:14
gmzljtanath: but thats not remotely valid23:14
gmzljgsettings get PATH KEY23:14
gmzljgsettings get org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri23:14
tanathgmzlj, yeah, well nothing i try that looks like it should be valid is working either23:14
gmzlj^ does that line work23:15
tanathgmzlj, i'm trying to set, not get23:15
gmzljtry get first23:15
gmzljit will tell you if your on the right path23:15
gmzljdo you get the path of your current wallpaper?23:15
gmzljif yes, we can worry about setting it23:15
tanathgmzlj, ok, i had tried to use that line only changing 'get' to 'set' and 'picture-uri' to the image path...23:15
gmzljno23:15
gmzljpicture-uri is the key23:16
gmzljtanath: if you want help23:16
tanathgmzlj, if i put that it gives me a path23:16
gmzljgood23:16
gmzljthen23:16
gmzljdo this23:16
tanathso it shoudl wokr23:16
gmzljgsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri "<your picture>"23:16
gmzljabsolute path23:16
tanathgmzlj, right! *facepalm*23:16
StereocaulonHow hard is it to migrate to Mint from ubuntu?23:17
gmzljstarting with file://23:17
gmzljtanath: lol23:17
tanathgmzlj, ty, lol23:17
nvzI am looking at a video dir in nautilus and I didnt have the codecs before, to play the files but now I do.. how can I make it go ahead and thumbnail these videos now?23:17
gmzljtanath: np23:17
jribnvz: rm -r ~/.thumbnails/fail/23:18
padag-mediaabend23:18
tanathgmzlj, uh... hm. now i can apparently set the value, but i get a black screen instead of the wallpaper23:18
jribnvz: (do not make typos)23:18
nvzjrib: oh really, I didnt know that was how it worked.. I was wondering why a simple reload didnt do it23:18
tanathgmzlj, tried with and without quotes...23:19
gmzljtanath: you need uri style sntax, eg file:///home/tanath/Pictures/ (note the 3 / in file:///)23:19
tanathdarnit23:19
tanathty23:19
gmzljnp23:19
tanathgmzlj, don't suppose you can get it to accept regular paths?23:19
tanathgmzlj, would be really helpful for my script23:19
nvzjrib: thanks, learned something new.. I knew about the thumbnails dir as I often clean it to save disk space but I didnt know it generated files for fails so it didnt try them again23:20
gmzljtanath: its simple, just prefix "file://" before any absolute path, and you've got a valid uri23:20
tanathgmzlj, was hoping to save some effort23:20
gmzljhardcode that into your script23:20
tanathyeah23:20
gmzljfile://$filename23:20
janisozaurI'm looking for a tool that could diff images. can be a gimp tool, cli, gui or online, doesn't matter23:21
nvzjanisozaur: looking for similar images?23:21
n4dspanyone here do tech support for Evolution?23:21
tanathjanisozaur, you want to tell if it's different or what the differences are?23:21
nvzjanisozaur: and are we talking pictures or like ISO kinda images?23:21
nvzjanisozaur: in general be more specific so we can help you better23:21
janisozaurI have two png 512x512 images and there are literally couple pixels different. I need to find which (or rather to verify that these are the only differences)23:22
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tanathjanisozaur, if you just want to know if it's different, try diff. if you want an image of differences, use 'diffimg file1 file2 > image.jpg'23:23
yagoojanisozaur, there's probably tools like this.. i know there's a science of this i forget the name..23:23
yagoojanisozaur, i believe there's something for it.. but you'll have to dig here or there (try googling against sf.net )23:23
tanathyagoo, diffimg23:23
nvzyagoo: only term that comes to my mind is steganography which is more about hiding messages within23:23
janisozaurtanath, diffimg works fine, thanks23:24
tanathjanisozaur, yw23:24
yagoojanisozaur, i remember there's even tools, let's say you want to make a webpage with similar images.. there's tools for this too23:24
n4dspOnce per day when I draft an email and send it my Evolution Mail program crashes, closes and starting it back up the email is in the outbox. Anyone know what causes this crash?23:25
janisozauryagoo, I have an assignment for university to do some pattern recognition, unfortunatelly the images with labels were said to contain exactly 4 labels while they contain 7. I "flattened" it by using gimp -> mode -> indexed -> use 4 colour only, if you're curious ;)23:26
atdiehm_homehey guys, I tried to dd the iso to my usb stick, but the netbook won't recognize it on boot.... is there something else I need to do with this?23:28
atdiehm_homeI'm trying to write it from fedora23:28
atdiehm_home( if that helps _23:28
atdiehm_home)23:28
Si2100u gotta mount it23:28
atdiehm_homewhich 'it'23:29
compdocthere has to be a boot sector23:29
genii-aroundatdiehm_home: unetbootin23:29
Si2100u need a USB wrighter23:29
sasorii just got a message when i tried sudo apt-get update..it says , sasori is not in the sudoers file..how to fix this ?23:29
genii-aroundsasori: Are you the system administrator?23:29
Si2100http://www.linuxliveusb.com/23:29
sasoriyes i am23:29
atdiehm_homegenii-around, installing23:30
sasoriany tips/hints/suggestions how to fix this ?23:30
genii-aroundsasori: Are you logged on with the name of the first user that was created, or a username that was added afterwards? Only the first created user has sudo rights by default23:30
Si2100atdiehm_home, let me know if it works or ont23:30
sasorigenii-around: there's a user called 'root' in my system..but from day 1 when i reformated this machine, i've been using sasori as the primary user23:31
SpyderZJust installed Ubuntu on a Fujitsu Amilo Pro V2055 Notebook and can't get the second VGA monitor to get detected. Any trick to this?23:31
sasoriit was still working yesterday,infact i even did sudo apt-get update as well and logged-in sasori's pwd23:32
sasoribut now sasori seem gone..this is not a hacked case, yeah?23:32
MitochondriaDid you RS the laptop with the monitor plugged in?23:32
genii-aroundsasori: What is the output of command: groups23:33
SpyderZNo, what is RS?23:33
sasorigenii-around: how will i know that? am not familiar with user management23:33
MitochondriaRestart~23:33
SpyderZOh, yes I did.23:33
nvzran into another problem gonna investigate it further in a minute but if anyone has ideas shout em out.. now that I installed the gstreamer codecs seems to be avi files are glitching where the video stops but time keeps going. I've had these files long time and know they had worked.. so far only checked to see if kerenl was throwing hdd errors, and there are none. Not sure what the problem is... totem, ubuntu 11.04 btw23:34
szalsasori: by looking at the output of the command23:34
janisozaursasori, chech if "id -u" is 100023:34
genii-aroundatdiehm_home: So you use that to take a CD iso file as input, use it to write that to the USB stick, it makes all the other changes to make it boot right from that23:34
Si2100i now Ubuntu has a Live USB Creator,23:35
nvzmight be worth doing an fsck.. cause I did delete all but my homedir on this partition that used to be my debian install and trying to shrink it to install ubuntu failed multiple times due to short reads23:35
sasorijanisozaur: yes, i typed "id -u" ..it's 100023:35
Si2100atdiehm_home, check the application center and see if u can fid somink23:35
sasoribut when i do sudo apt-get update..the usuall asking of passwd comes out23:35
zykotick9nvz, try with vlc or mplayer (neither uses gstreamer)23:35
sasoribut when i typed the pwd23:35
sasoriit says23:35
MitochondriaSpyderz : have you tried going through all the monitor settings in the System Tab?23:35
nvzthough not showing any short reads or other errors currently but I doubt fs problems would show up anywhere23:35
genii-aroundsasori: Did you run some command recently like usermod to try and add yourself to a new group?23:35
sasorisasori is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported23:36
SpyderZWhen I do a xrandr -q I get the error "Failed to get size of gamma for output device…"23:36
zykotick9sasori, type "groups" are you a member of "admin", if not - no sudo23:36
SpyderZMitochondria, yes.. only shows an unknown monitor for the LCD screen.23:36
* genii-around hands zykotick9 yummy coffee23:36
n4dspis there an Evolution channel for tech support?23:36
janisozaurzykotick9, what about group "sudo"?23:36
sasorigenii-around: i didn't..all i usually do is update my system23:37
zykotick9janisozaur, in ubuntu NO, in debian yes.23:37
bastidrazorjanisozaur: there is no sudo group in ubuntu23:37
genii-aroundjanisozaur: There is no sudo group23:37
sasorizykotick9: i typed "groups"23:37
nvzzykotick9: I do believe I had my debian where I last used these setup to use xine backend rather than gstreamer but I know these had worked in totem on debian.. I do however typically use gxine or a xine backend23:37
sasorioutput = "sasor www-data"23:37
sasori"sasori www-data" <-- output23:37
janisozaurbastidrazor, hmm... I do belong to "sudo" and I'm running 11.1023:37
genii-aroundsasori: So thats what you did. You ran something like: sudo usermod -G www-data    without using the -a switch to append the group. Now it is the only one you belong to.23:38
yagoojanisozaur, sudo rules is in /etc/sudoers (fyi)23:38
bastidrazorjanisozaur: then you've created the group or you're running some derivative of ubuntu.23:38
sasorigenii-around: any tips/suggestions how to fix this ?23:38
nvzthe codecs and stuff are a bit different on ubuntu than on debian it seems.. how do I go about setting up codecs for non-gstreamer players? cause I'd like to setup totem to use xine like I had on debian but normally on debian you install w32codecs not sure what to do on ubuntu23:39
janisozaurbastidrazor, official ubuntu image, sudo group is 27 which is lower than audio (29) which would suggest it was here from the start23:39
janisozauryagoo, I'm pretty familiar with my system, thank you :)23:39
MitochondriaPerhaps you have a video chipset and not an actual graphics card in the notebook. It seems to cause problems with older laptops23:39
janisozaurbastidrazor, not that it particularly bothers me...23:40
extehtdghi23:40
bastidrazorjanisozaur: now that i look at /etc/group i see sudo as a group but its purpose is mute since the admin group supercedes it23:41
extehtdgwhat's the same of idm23:41
genii-aroundsasori: The only solution in this case is to boot to recovery mode, and then add yourself back into the right groups. Like: usermod -G -a adm, dialout, cdrom, www-data, video, plugdev, lpadmin, admin sasori23:41
janisozaurbastidrazor, ahh, I see. thanks for clearing it up :)23:41
yagoonvz, http://wiki.debian.org/MultimediaCodecs  -- it's under a different name with 64-bit ->w64codecs23:41
sasorigenii-around: imma reboot my system now..please help through it23:42
zykotick9!medibuntu | nvz23:42
ubottunvz: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org23:42
zykotick9nvz, it's medibuntu that containts w32codecs and w64codecs23:43
MitochondriaMostly because Mediubuntu lets us get Restricted Codecs which allows us to play dvd's and rip them to our computers.23:43
ResQuehow can i pipe the value of ls into vlc?23:43
MitochondriaWhich is illegal in the US.23:43
sasoriok now am on the purple background color23:43
sasoriit is asking me to choose resume,clean dpkg,failsafex,fsck,grub23:43
DJRWolfI just bought a laptop on a great black Friday sale and wanted to know if taking the HDD out to image it before I resize the partition to make room for Ubuntu would void the warranty?23:43
sasoriwhich one to choose?23:43
zykotick9DJRWolf, that's not an #ubuntu question, try ##hardware23:44
JeruvyDJRWolf, no.  But this isn't the place to ask those questions.  You should ask your manufacture directly for real.23:44
MitochondriaDjrWolf, if you bought it on black friday on sale, you won't be able to return it anyways23:44
yagooResQue, easier, you can even use -> echo * | <app> .. but there must be better ways..23:45
yagooResQue, you should make playlist files23:45
DJRWolfwell, I have a 2nd question, is there an Ubuntu program that will do the imaging well?23:46
atdiehm_homeI ran with unetbootin, and it completed normally, but the netbook won't boot off the stick.....23:46
sasorineed help..i booted my machine to  recovery mode, now it is asking me to choose between resume,clean,dpkg,failsafex,fsck,grub,netroot,root ...which one should i choose in order to bring back sasori in the sudoers group ?23:47
Jeruvy!cloning | DJRWolf23:47
ubottuDJRWolf: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate23:47
Jeruvywell thats a crappy factiod..23:47
genii-aroundsasori: Failsafe23:49
genii-aroundWoops no23:49
genii-aroundsasori: root  is what you want actually, apologies23:49
kurisu_hi guys.... really need some help please, for the last few days flash kepps making my system hang (11.04 64) it's getting really frustrating, I've tried clearing all flash stored data, reinstalling and tried both ff and chromium... out of ideas!! any suggestions would be much appreciated, thanks23:50
ResQueyagoo: thanks for the reply, and i see what you are saying. but often i like to pass in lists of files and dir based on my mood, so i would get a list of mp3 like this23:50
ResQueyagoo: "ls | grep -i yt | sed "s/ /\\\\ /g""23:50
genii-aroundsasori: Then you want Remount as Read/Write   or similar. Then you want root again.23:50
ResQueyagoo: but i can not seem to pass this into vlc after23:50
sasorigenii-around: ok i chose root..and i typed the -G -a adm stuff you typed earlier..but it says, group -a does not exists :S23:51
ResQueyagoo: the sed is to replace spaces with esc character "\ "23:51
yagooResQue, check the manpage?23:51
yagooResQue, if you're asking me about bash then you should ask the channel how to do a certain text format..23:52
genii-aroundsasori: I always forget where the -a should go.  You can try -Ga  or put -a at the end and see if that works23:52
genii-aroundsasori: Then to see if it took properly, do: su -d "groups" sasori23:53
genii-aroundgah typos23:53
zero_hey guys, trying, unsuccessfully to get an aiptek sirius (rebranded waltop) wacom tablet to work properly in 11.10.  I have tried using wizardpen, as well as adding a waltop extension to the 50-wacom-conf file to no avail.  Any input would be greatly appreciated23:53
genii-aroundsasori: do: su -c "groups" sasori        instead, rather23:53
zykotick9Jeruvy, !cloning is a great factoid for cloning an ubuntu install, but not so good for disk cloning (aka drive imagining) though.  Perhaps that factoid should say something like "... for disk cloning research dd." ;)23:54
Jeruvyzykotick9, agreed.23:54
sasorigenii-around: i tried usermod -aG .... OR usermod -a -G ....OR usermod -Ga ...it didn't work..the last one was usermod -Ga ..it says, group 'a" does not exists..then i typed "su -c groups sasori"..it says "sasori www-data23:55
genii-aroundsasori: Yeah hangon a sec for me to find the right usage23:56
kurisu>.< ok so it just crashed again... without any flash... how do I check 'crash' logs23:56
sasoriok23:56
kurisui.e. which log?23:56
genii-aroundsasori: usermod -a -G adm,dialout,cdrom,www-data,video,plugdev,lpadmin,admin sasori       ...should work23:57
sasoriok 1 sec..lemme try23:57
zykotick9genii-around, (sasori) i believe your initial command is correct (i'd personally have given "usermod -aG ..." but i'm sure your way should work too.  sasori is your username sasori?23:58
genii-aroundzykotick9: Yeah I always mess up which comes first in that command for some reason23:58
sasoriyes it's my username..but am currently on recovery mode and logged in as root23:58
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genii-aroundsasori: Make sure it added you to all the groups after by the: su -c "groups" sasori23:59
zykotick9sasori, you might have to chroot to modify the correct passwd account?  (can someone confirm/deny?)23:59
sasoriok, i think the last one you typed..went through @ genii-around23:59
genii-aroundzykotick9: No, the recovery boot puts you at #23:59
sasoriimma try to reboot now23:59

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