[00:00] <caution> what date?
[00:00] <caution> 5 years from today?
[00:00] <geoffmcc> theborger: port
[00:00] <jrib> caution: from release.
[00:00] <szal> caution: 5 years from release
[00:00] <caution> can you make the bot tell me the date please?
[00:00] <Richiie> i am having issues to make teamviewer startup as an service, im following this documentation http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1853868
[00:00] <szal> !lucid
[00:01] <jrib> caution: the release number tells you when it was released.  10.04 means the 4th month (april) of 2010
[00:01] <Richiie> but it seems to me, that it doesnt work properly as expected, anyone knows what the causes might be?
[00:02] <jrib> theborger: I just list multiple "Port number" lines in my sshd config
[00:03] <theborger> jrib, yea i found a readme on it, i thought you could do port number,number
[00:03] <theborger> that does not work
[00:03] <milamber> Richiie: can you provide details? which part of which step isn't working?
[00:04] <theborger> next questions, how do i forwward X over multiple ssh connections?
[00:04] <Richiie> milamber: well, im able to run the lines in my /etc/rc.local but if i check the log files i can see some errors do you want me to send them in pastebin ?
[00:04] <milamber> Richiie: yes, let's start there
[00:04] <theborger> ssh -X -C -p port uname@address ? how do i add another ssh server to that
[00:06] <caution> is there a mirror of the last archive.ubuntu.com packages for karmic?
[00:07] <MonkeyDust> caution  there's a site old-distributions
[00:07] <zykotick9> !eol | caution
[00:07] <MonkeyDust> caution  http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[00:08] <Rassilon> Hi all,can someone tell me how I can go back to ubuntu v10 desktop after installing ubuntu v11
[00:08] <bazhang> Rassilon, full reinstall
[00:08] <zykotick9> !downgrade | Rassilon
[00:08] <milamber> !notunity | Rassilon
[00:08] <Richiie> milamber: http://pastebin.com/LEUwU23M
[00:09] <caution> MonkeyDust: can I use that in my sources.list?
[00:09] <MonkeyDust> caution  guess not, at least not the EOL's
[00:09] <Rassilon> Thanks all, I'll try the suggestion from ubottu...
[00:10] <caution> is there anything I can use in my sources.list for karmic?
[00:11] <tolland> hi all
[00:12] <zykotick9> caution, you obviously didn't look at the link from !eol
[00:12] <Yacobh> Hi everybody
[00:12] <tolland> my ubuntu 11.10 laptop with xfce is spinning the fan continuously, not sure when this started, it might be due to mank building up on the fans or some lower settings for starting the fan for temperatures
[00:12] <caution> zykotick9: I don't want to upgrade or get new releases, just the old ones
[00:12] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades   <------ caution
[00:12] <bazhang> caution, then no
[00:12] <tolland> are there any tools that I should look at so see what the fan settings and system temps are ?
[00:14] <alien2050> tolland: check your bios, it should have a temp monitor builtin, but I've noticed also when the gfx driver isn't installed properly it sometimes does this (ati and nvidia)
[00:14] <zykotick9> !info lm-sensors | tolland
[00:15] <tolland> hmm. apt is complaining that these packages cannot be authenticated, is that right?
[00:16] <caution> oh I can use http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ in sources.list
[00:16] <caution> thanks
[00:16] <szymon_g> hi
[00:17] <alien2050> lm-sensors also a good tool, but since you said you don't know since when it started... it might get more complicated than just getting a package... try and see when the fans start doing this
[00:17] <alien2050> after OS, before, bios, etc...
[00:22] <StepNjump> Ok guys, I need a wiz!
[00:22] <html> hi,
[00:23] <StepNjump> anybody feeling up to par to tell me I'm SOL^
[00:23] <mikubuntu> i don't know how to install the software for this worldwide community project, i wonder if some of the ops could look at it and see if someone would like to do a community page about it http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/
[00:23] <zykotick9> StepNjump, just ask the question...
[00:23] <bazhang> StepNjump, whats the actual question
[00:23] <jrib> caution: you should use those to upgrade only, you should not continue to use an unsupported release
[00:23] <caution> I understand. I'll upgrade as soon as I can
[00:24] <MonkeyDust> dat is Latijn voor 'met'
[00:24] <MonkeyDust> oops
[00:25] <ewp> ayo fellas! i have screen lock off but my comp still locks screen when idle
[00:25] <html>   whats the command line for enable user accounts to show up on the logon screen, and to change the logon screen back to the default ubuntu 10.10
[00:26] <bazhang> html, you want to remove auto-login via the command line?
[00:27] <jrib> !away > sysadamin|away
[00:28] <StepNjump> ok zykotick9 and bazhang here is the situation: I did a ls -l and found out that I was drwxr-xr-x on that dir. I didn't like the fact that others could execute so I wanted to change the permissions for ~/Documents and all below folders so I ran this dangerous puppy here:  sudo find . -type f -exec chmod -R 644 {} \; not realizing that I forgot to perform this from the Documents dir. Ooops... And yes, to make it worse, I prefixed it with sudo! So what at
[00:28] <StepNjump>  this point do you guys suggest? Should I try to create a user  profile and scrap my current one? What a mess!!!!!!
[00:28] <FloodBot1> StepNjump: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:28] <jrib> StepNjump: where did you actually run it from?
[00:29] <StepNjump> zykotick9 and bazhang it was run from the worse ~/
[00:29] <jrib> StepNjump: that's not all that bad
[00:29] <StepNjump> jrib see above
[00:29] <html> bazhang,  no ,
[00:29] <StepNjump> oh no jrib?
[00:30] <bazhang> html, what do you want to do via CLI then? and by default, you want to undo whatever customization you did to the greeter screen?
[00:30] <StepNjump> what about .config, .kde and other scarry other stuff there?
[00:31] <StepNjump> bazhang any idea?
[00:31] <Yacobh> i need some help whit my ubuntu
[00:31] <Yacobh> i don't have sound
[00:31] <Yacobh> :(
[00:31] <StepNjump> Yacobh, don't listen to me, I know JUST enough to get in me in trouble!
[00:31] <jrib> StepNjump: well all you did was remove executable bit from files in your home.  The only thigs that you would have that are executable are likely some small scripts you use
[00:32] <StepNjump> Oh yes that happened to me once....
[00:32] <geoffmcc> Yacobh: first thing that comes to mind to me would be to go to sound then hardware and make sure soundcard is selected
[00:32] <StepNjump> jrib should I give a 776 to everything again from ~/ and down ?
[00:33] <html> bazhang,  yes
[00:33] <jrib> StepNjump: nope, I would just leave it as it is
[00:33] <StepNjump> Is there a chance I might not be able to reboot?
[00:33] <bazhang> html, yes to what
[00:33] <jrib> StepNjump: as long as you really did run it in your user's home, no there is no chance that you would not be able to reboot
[00:34] <jrib> StepNjump: I guess worst case scenario is you can't login :)
[00:34] <StepNjump> ok great jrib.. yes I did.. fortunately it wasn't /. I guess I could look at a different profile for the permissions and change everything one .dir by .dir
[00:35] <Yacobh> ok geoffmcc let me see it
[00:35] <jrib> StepNjump: you only modified files
[00:35] <Zirg> hey folks. at this time grub2 is NOT displaying any options on boot-up and i want it to. what do i change and where???
[00:35] <StepNjump> right... but I guess I could always use the TTY to get it fixed right?
[00:35] <ewp> ayo fellas! i have screen lock off but my comp still locks screen when idle
[00:35] <jrib> StepNjump: and files aren't executable in your home generally, unless you install software there or keep scripts in there (but in this case you should know about them and can just make them executable again)
[00:36] <geoffmcc> Yacobh: when your there, in the hardware tab at the bottom is a profile drop down. try different profiles. when you change it, hit the test button to see if they work
[00:37] <StepNjump> ok jrib.. The one I know is in there and is executable is dropbox. Where would you install the executables next time? (dropbox installs by default in the home). /dev/bin?
[00:37] <Yacobh> all right!
[00:37] <alien2050> ewp: I confirm, same situation here, even tried disabling screensaver daemon.... r u using 11.10 ?
[00:37] <geoffmcc> Yacobh: mine works on analog stereo Duplex on my laptop. and when i am connected threw hdmi i believe it is Digital Stereo profile
[00:38] <Jordan_U> Zirg: Hold shift during boot to see the grub menu, or edit GRUB_TIMEOUT= in /etc/default/grub to always show the menu.
[00:39] <Zirg> Jordan_U, what do i want to follow GRUB_TIMEOUT= ?
[00:39] <jrib> StepNjump: nothing wrong with putting it in your home
[00:39] <ewp> alien2050: yes
[00:39] <Zirg> Jordan_U, right now, the /etc/default/grub file has  GRUB_TIMEOUT=30 and it's not displaying anything.
[00:39] <StepNjump> ok tnx a lot jrib
[00:40] <StepNjump> for your help
[00:40] <alien2050> it's puzzling... probably a conf file somewhere
[00:40] <zykotick9> Zirg, do you also see something about HIDDEN in /etc/default/grub?
[00:41] <Zirg> zykotick9, yes. GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=30 and GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true. comment those out?
[00:41] <jrib> StepNjump: no problem
[00:41] <ewp> alien2050: i'm searching gconf-editor for any clues
[00:41] <zykotick9> Zirg, would be a good start - then "sudo update-grub" then reboot to test
[00:42] <alien2050> I even removed xscreensaver completely... so there has to be something else
[00:42] <alien2050> maybe builtin with lightdm or gshell
[00:43] <atruno-> can you bond two wireless interfaces and have them connect to the same ip ?
[00:43] <atruno-> oops same SSID
[00:44] <alien2050> ewp: let me know if you find anything
[00:45] <CarlFK> alien2050 ewp: check this out: https://github.com/CarlFK/veyepar/blob/master/setup/pxe/shaz/var/www/lc/late.sh#L44  [org/gnome/desktop/screensaver]idle-activation-enabled=false
[00:45] <nils_> man pacemaker is annoying as hell.
[00:46] <dashavoo> hey, has anyone been having a lot of problems with flash player for the past few days? Not sure which update exactly coincided with the problem starting.
[00:47] <alien2050> can't find local.dconf and I am using gshell, unless I read wrong
[00:47] <Guest2919> hi. im unable to play dvds on my installation. i have libdvdread4, livdvdnav4 and libdvdcss2 already installed. but still it says that the dvd is encrypted and a dvd encryption library is not installed
[00:48] <zykotick9> Guest2919, from personal experience, i've always had to reboot after adding DVD support for it to work (i'm sure there is another way, but i don't know it)
[00:48] <CarlFK> alien2050: that creates local.dconf
[00:48] <geoffmcc> Guest2919: i beleive its ubuntu-restricted-extras package, have you installed that
[00:48] <Guest2919> zykotick9: i have rebooted several times.
[00:48] <zykotick9> geoffmcc, incorrect - no DVD support in restricted-extras
[00:49] <Sorikan> Why does this lftp script keep copying the same files over and over again? it copies only the flv files, and only uploads them, but every time it runs it copies the same files over and over.... http://www.ideone.com/oGYMQ   Thanks
[00:49] <Guest2919> geoffmcc: yes i have
[00:49] <zykotick9> Guest2919, after install libdvdread4 did you run the required script?  (libdvdcss2 if installed, should mean you did)
[00:49] <Yacobh> geoffmcc: nothing happen
[00:49] <Yacobh> i try whit all of them
[00:50] <jrib> Guest2919: you should also eject the dvd and re-insert it after installing dvdcss
[00:50] <Guest2919> zykotick9: i dont know about running a script. which one? yes libdvdcss2 is installed fine.
[00:50] <Yacobh> i tried with all of them
[00:50] <zykotick9> Guest2919, do you mean from medibuntu?
[00:51] <zykotick9> Guest2919, "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh" is the script for libdvdread4
[00:52] <Guest2919> jrib, tried it but no change
[00:53] <KPoh9> I have an apache question .  I just downloaded and installed in on 11.10 but can't find where it is
[00:53] <KPoh9> I have no www directory under my var directory
[00:53] <zykotick9> Guest2919, FYI that libdvdread4 is just installing libdvdcss2 from medibuntu (without adding the repo)
[00:54] <KPoh9> any suggestions?
[00:54] <zykotick9> KPoh9, when you say downloaded it - do you mean with apt-get/U.S.C or manually?
[00:54] <Guest2919> zykotick9, tried it but i need internet fir that will have to go to another office to do so.
[00:54] <KPoh9> no apt-get just installing it by downloading, unzipping and then doing make, make install
[00:55] <zykotick9> KPoh9, not a very good idea.
[00:55] <zykotick9> !lamp | KPoh9
[00:55] <KPoh9> lol, I'm new to ubuntu
[00:56] <zykotick9> KPoh9, try to just use packages from Ubuntu's repository (install using apt-get or U.S.C) at least to begin with.
[00:57] <Yacobh> but Thank you geoffmcc for your interesting
[00:57] <zykotick9> KPoh9, that manual install you did of apache could now cause problems/issue however
[00:58] <zykotick9> !checkinstall | KPoh9 for future reference -
[01:00] <Sorikan> Why does this lftp script keep copying the same files over and over again? it copies only the flv files, and only uploads them, but every time it runs it copies the same files over and over.... http://www.ideone.com/oGYMQ   Thanks
[01:01] <tf_enya> hi. does anyone use LGA 2011 CPU(3930K or 3960K)?
[01:03] <zykotick9> !anyone | tf_enya
[01:03] <bazhang> tf_enya, whats the real issue
[01:03] <CodeWar> alt-tab is so messed up in 11.10 .. it tabs through all windows on all desktops and creates a single icon for each app.. DISASTER!!
[01:03] <xangua> CodeWar: configure the plugin with compiz setting manager
[01:03] <KPoh9> zykotick9 thanks for the help!
[01:04] <CodeWar> xangua, can you point me to the blog ... I tried this once it made no difference
[01:05] <KPoh9> zykotick9: thanks for the help!
[01:05] <tf_enya> bazhang: 11.10 64bit server  is not boot from cd. but 11.10 64bit desktop can boot from cd.
[01:06] <opticlove> can someone tell me the difference between ext2, ext3, ext4?
[01:06] <zykotick9> KPoh9, glad to help :) [i did see your first message]
[01:06] <ewp> alien2050: i found /desktop/gnome/lockdown/disable_lock_screen unchecked in gconf. maybe checking it will fix
[01:07] <bazhang> opticlove, thats not really an ubuntu support issue; did you wish to know which was preferable to use with ubuntu?
[01:08] <patrick> hey
[01:08] <patrick> new here
[01:08] <UngaHunga> hi
[01:08] <CodeWar> http://askubuntu.com/questions/68151/revert-alt-tab-behavior-changed-in-11-10 fixed the issue
[01:08] <UngaHunga> opticlove, http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/05/ext2-ext3-ext4/
[01:09] <chen> chen
[01:11] <tf_enya> this problem only happen with LGA 2011 CPU.
[01:12] <KPoh9> join #apache
[01:14] <dsirijus> hey, anyone having trackpoint issues?
[01:14] <dsirijus> like, locking for a second every few seconds? especially when moving upwards?
[01:15] <dsirijus> it's actually trackstyck by hp, but nonetheless
[01:15] <dsirijus> and there's no any settings for trackpoint in system settings, only for mouse and trackpad
[01:25] <stoufa> j'ai la carte graphique et le webcam ne fonctionnent pas sous ubuntu11.10
[01:26] <zykotick9> !fr | stoufa
[01:26] <stoufa> merci
[01:30] <dsirijus> i've installed gpointing device settings, and it seems that my trackpoint is identified as ps2 mouse only
[01:30] <dsirijus> still glitches
[01:31] <DemoOn> can't boot in ubuntu, fresh install, it shows only violet screen, from live usb it works fine
[01:31] <bl4ckcomb> noted, next
[01:32] <DemoOn> any help?
[01:32] <bl4ckcomb> DemoOn, did you install it from the live usb?
[01:33] <DemoOn> bl4ckcomb: ye
[01:33] <bl4ckcomb> have you checked the image ?
[01:33] <bl4ckcomb> for errors
[01:33] <bl4ckcomb> when booting there's an option for that, so you're sure that your setup media is sane
[01:33] <DemoOn> bl4ckcomb: no, but i think it's because of video drivers, i think
[01:34] <bl4ckcomb> what vendor do you have?
[01:34] <DemoOn> ati radeon 6850
[01:35] <bl4ckcomb> dunno, but if the live usb boots fine, it should also work for the installation. afaik ubuntu uses a generic graphics driver =/
[01:36] <JasonGriffee> how to i install a program from a .run file?
[01:36] <bl4ckcomb> let me see if I can find out how to make the violet screen verbose
[01:36] <DemoOn> ok
[01:37] <bl4ckcomb> DemoOn, try hitting alt+f1 while booting
[01:37] <DemoOn> bl4ckcomb: what will it do?
[01:37] <zykotick9> JasonGriffee, in a terminal, cd to the directory with the foo.run file, then "sudo ./foo.run"
[01:37] <bl4ckcomb> it should show you everything that's loading at boottime
[01:38] <bl4ckcomb> so you can check where it shows errors or halts
[01:38] <zykotick9> JasonGriffee, you might also have to "chmod +x foo.run" before the "sudo ./foo.run"
[01:38] <DemoOn> bl4ckcomb: i hit that when i had vilet screen for a while and then it sowed only black screen
[01:38] <dsirijus> do you guys understand how annoying is to work on a 2x6cm trackpad and malfunctioning trackpoint? if kids get murdered, it's you to blame
[01:38] <bl4ckcomb> I suppose the violet screen. the black screen is probably still grub
[01:38] <DemoOn> bl4ckcomb: and what should i do if there will be error with graphics driver?
[01:39] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | DemoOn this MIGHT be worth a try
[01:39] <thenkill> I have a question about YATE on ubuntu 10.04 Lucid, can anyone here possibly help me?
[01:40] <bl4ckcomb> possibly
[01:40] <thenkill> :)
[01:40] <thenkill> I have installed it through synaptic
[01:40] <thenkill> and when i run "yate" in terminal no gui comes up
[01:40] <darktstar999> try 'apropos yate' maybe?
[01:41] <thenkill> nothing happend
[01:41] <zykotick9> thenkill, are you sure yate is a GUI program?  i'm guess not by it's dependencies.
[01:42] <thenkill> if i run "yate" it gets to "Yate engine is initialized and starting up on box" then just sits there....
[01:42] <seekwill> Hi. Is there anything special with the server install if I don't install any of the pre-defined services? For example, can I install X via apt without any problems?
[01:42] <thenkill> it is a voip application and has a gui on windows
[01:42] <LaPingvino> can anybody tell me how I can get grub's name for a specific partition?
[01:42] <zykotick9> seekwill, you can yes
[01:42] <darktstar999> thenkill: install yate-gtk2
[01:42] <BlackWeb> Does anyone know the best way to Compress a Dvd On Linux
[01:43] <Mitochondria> Shrink it?
[01:43] <thenkill> ok.. i will try that... Thanks
[01:43] <zykotick9> BlackWeb, "compress a dvd" to what?  a video file?  what format do you want?
[01:43] <seekwill> zykotick9: So server is just a minimal install?
[01:43] <zykotick9> seekwill, "basically"
[01:43] <LaPingvino> sda6 == (hd0,5)?
[01:43] <BlackWeb> What Program Shrinks it
[01:43] <Mitochondria> http://dvdshrink.sourceforge.net/
[01:43] <BlackWeb> I've tried DVD95 and it Shrinks it but wont work after its done 4.4 GB instead of 7.6GB
[01:44] <geoffmcc> thenkill: looks like the gui is a seperate download and it runs java tested on both win and linux
[01:44] <bl4ckcomb> it's what you need for a server. since a gui is not relevant for a server, it doesn't have one. also it includes options to pre-install popular services like apache, sshd, mysql, ....
[01:44] <BlackWeb> Right now i have DVD on Hard Drive in ISO Format and in Audio_TS & Video_TS Folders
[01:44] <BlackWeb> Want to shrink ISO Format or Folder Copies to 4.4GB
[01:45] <seekwill> zykotick9: My goal is to install a very minimal desktop, running something like fluxbox VM and a few gtk-based apps under. Don't need the full kde/gnome suite. Any recommendations on approach?
[01:45] <DeviceZer0> !java
[01:45] <pragmaticenigma> seekwill: I would suggest Xfce with Xubuntu
[01:45] <BlackWeb> Heard of vamps & dvdauthor, but not sure how to utilize them to shrink it down
[01:45] <zykotick9> seekwill, what you want is certainly possible.  But I'm not going to recommend ANYTHING about a server with a GUI.  Good luck.
[01:45] <seekwill> pragmaticenigma: I really like fluxbox :)
[01:46] <pragmaticenigma> seekwill: XFCE is a lighter weight desktop and has some of the same features of fluxbox... I don't think there are any straight up Fluxbox version of Ubuntu
[01:46] <bl4ckcomb> BlackWeb, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DVDShrink
[01:46] <zykotick9> pragmaticenigma, XFCE is HEAVY compared to fluxbox
[01:46] <seekwill> zykotick9: Well, that's why I was wondering how the server is different than desktop or alt
[01:46] <xangua> !minimal | seekwill pragmaticenigma
[01:47] <bl4ckcomb> BlackWeb, this one requires wine though...
[01:47] <seekwill> xangua: ah, I'll look into that. Thanks!
[01:47] <zykotick9> seekwill, i just don't believe is servers with GUIs is all...
[01:47] <rypervenche> seekwill: I second that.
[01:47] <thenkill> mkay, I installed yate-gtk2 through apt-get
[01:47] <somsip> seekwill: install minimal install CD. Then install something that depends on X. It should pull in eveyrthing you need. Worked for me using awesomeWM
[01:47] <pragmaticenigma> xangua: he's looking for a GUI desktop with fluxbox... and I said XFCE is a "Lighter" not light-weight
[01:47] <thenkill> when I type yate-gtk2 in
[01:47] <thenkill> it is not found
[01:48] <seekwill> somsip: Sounds like a plan.
[01:48] <thenkill> ok im sorry
[01:48] <zykotick9> thenkill, open a terminal and type "yate<TAB><TAB>" to see the various yate* executables - perhaps one will stick out?
[01:49] <thenkill> i found a new entry in the menu for it..
[01:49] <thenkill> and it opened up
[01:49] <somsip> seekwill: since then I've had to pull in a few gnomish components when I've installed other packages, but nothing too heavy AFAICT
[01:49] <thenkill> Thanks again
[01:52] <xMopx> Is it possible to have /boot/ be on a mdadm partition?
[01:52] <DemoOn> bl4ckcomb: didnt work
[01:53] <DemoOn> bl4ckcomb: how can i disable display drivers from usb?
[01:54] <bl4ckcomb> DemoOn, you can do it in xorg.conf
[01:54] <bl4ckcomb> DemoOn, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[01:55] <thenkill> Stupid question but how do i have the volume icon by the clock in ubuntu?
[01:56] <bl4ckcomb> thenkill, classic or unity?
[01:56] <thenkill> lucid i believe
[01:56] <thenkill> 10.04
[01:56] <DemoOn> bl4ckcomb: wheres xrog.conf located/
[01:57] <bl4ckcomb> I mean the desktop environment. is it gnome or unity?
[01:57] <DemoOn> ?
[01:57] <thenkill> gnome
[01:57] <bl4ckcomb> DemoOn, /etc/X11/xorg.conf I think. it should be on the page I gave you
[01:57] <DemoOn> bl4ckcomb: i don't have that, cuz page says xorg isnt needed anymore
[01:57] <bl4ckcomb> thenkill, then you can add it by right-clicking the panel and adding widgets
[01:58] <xangua> !panels | thenkill
[01:59] <zykotick9> DemoOn, fyi xorg.conf doesn't exist by default - you have to create it
[01:59] <thenkill> I see no volume or alsa mixer in the list of panel widgets
[01:59] <DemoOn> zykotick9: how then i can disable display drivers?
[02:05] <dsirijus> ok, i've managed to narrow down the issue to following - when cursor is moving too fast, it stops
[02:05] <StepNjump> jrib I found a way I think
[02:05] <dsirijus> wtf
[02:05] <net> can you help me? how to set up krusader to automatically open mp3 files in audacious?
[02:06] <Nertskull> Anyone have suggestions for the best podcast client (i.e. gpodder) for ubunut?  Should I just be sticking with gpodder?
[02:06] <StepNjump> jrib I have a backup I made. Since I'm still thinking the win way, I didn't realize before that I could use the backup to restore my ~/. is that true?
[02:07] <StepNjump> Nertskull, please let me know when you find it because I'm looking for one too
[02:07] <pragmaticenigma> Nertskull: gpodder is available for Ubuntu
[02:08] <pragmaticenigma> Nertskull: Otherwise Miro uses some of the same code but has a nicer interface and built in player
[02:08] <Nertskull> pragmaticenigma: Yeah I've been using gpodder, I was wondering if there was something better, sorry I should have phrased it better
[02:09] <Nertskull> I'll give miro a look
[02:09] <StepNjump> What is the best way to copy all folders and all containted data by overwriting the destination with cp please?
[02:09] <pragmaticenigma> Nertskull: Miro and gpodder both are built on the same Python code
[02:09] <pragmaticenigma> another option is Juice, but I have not had any experience with it... I have been really happy with gpodder
[02:10] <pragmaticenigma> StepNjump: you can use the argument -f and it will force the overwritting of files
[02:11] <fouad_> hi guys
[02:11] <pragmaticenigma> Hello fouad_
[02:12] <StepNjump> thank you very much pragmaticenigma
[02:13] <fouad_> is anyone experienced with the Zend framework?
[02:13] <pragmaticenigma> StepNjump: It's always a good idea to check if there is a man page to explain all the options some of the more common commands.  Example: man cp
[02:13] <Plop> hello
[02:13] <pragmaticenigma> StepNjump: You will find lots of cool features you never might know about
[02:14] <pragmaticenigma> fouad_: what specifically about the Zend framework do you have a question about? You may find you get an answer faster if you use a more specific question
[02:14] <fouad_> im so confused with the setup haha
[02:15] <fouad_> i did sudo apt-get install zend-framework
[02:15] <fouad_> but i dont know where to go from here
[02:15] <pragmaticenigma> why are you installing zend?
[02:15] <Plop> wow guys... I'm very new to this
[02:15] <Plop> not IRC, but Ubuntu...
[02:16] <Plop> i like the app-finder-installer
[02:16] <fouad_> im rewriting my QR code application
[02:16] <pragmaticenigma> Send is a framework, not a programming language
[02:16] <pragmaticenigma> rather "zend"
[02:17] <fouad_> i know
[02:17] <pragmaticenigma> I guess I don't understand why you would install zend then...
[02:17] <fouad_> im wrote it in PHP
[02:17] <fouad_> just coding everything normally
[02:17] <fouad_> with my messy classes
[02:17] <pragmaticenigma> Ah, you don't need the Zend framework for that...
[02:17] <orlok> I dont suppose anybody here has used ubuntu within a pci-dss compliant scope?
[02:18] <pragmaticenigma> you only need to install the PHP libraries
[02:18] <fouad_> there is a QR code library in Zend
[02:18] <fouad_> which i wanted to utilized
[02:18] <Nertskull> In regards to podcasts, anyone have good ideas how to sync between ubuntu and an android phone.  So I can keep track of already played ones on the phones?
[02:18] <pragmaticenigma> fouad_: I would highly recommend you find a classmate that might be able to help you get things setup...
[02:19] <pragmaticenigma> Otherwise http://framework.zend.com/manual/en/learning.quickstart.create-project.html is a tutorial site I found
[02:19] <somsip> fouad_: do you really need Zend. If you just want a QR class, Zend is a bit of a slaedgehammer for a nutty problem
[02:19] <xangua> Nertskull: tried Ubuntu One¿
[02:20] <pragmaticenigma> Nertskull: I have not seen anything like that
[02:21] <StepNjump> pragmaticenigma I know but right now I have no time for that... I changed all my attributes in my ~/.* files
[02:21] <net> can you help me? how to set up krusader to automatically open mp3 files in audacious?
[02:21] <StepNjump> I'm going to try to restore from backup
[02:21] <StepNjump> what a mess
[02:21] <fouad_> somsip, do you have any suggestions?
[02:21] <Plop> Random Question: Can "LibreOffice Writer" create .doc files compatible with MSWord..?
[02:21] <StepNjump> I'm learning as I go.. I always take notes
[02:21] <pragmaticenigma> StepNjump: there might be a faster way to correct permissions
[02:22] <bazhang> Plop, sure it can
[02:22] <Plop> cool.. :)
[02:22] <Plop> where do I go? .. i'm newb.. channel suggestions?
[02:22] <StepNjump> oh yes pragmaticenigma? How???????????????/
[02:22] <xangua> Plop: clic on Save As
[02:22] <pragmaticenigma> Plop: When saving your document you will see an option to change the file format in the save file dialoge
[02:22] <StepNjump> If you could find me a way, I would appreciate it a lot. All my files are chmod 644
[02:22] <fouad_> my main focus was on the application
[02:23] <pragmaticenigma> StepNjump: navigate to the base directory where you want to affect your changes to. For instance if you user home directory go to cp /home/user
[02:23] <Plop> thanks guys, i was just wondering for  future
[02:23] <pragmaticenigma> StepNjump: Then run: sudo chmod a=rwX ./
[02:24] <StepNjump> pragmaticenigma do you mean cd /home/user?
[02:24] <pragmaticenigma> StepNjump: Yes, sorry I get the two backwards all the time
[02:24] <fouad_> and i was using the google chart api. but now i want to rewrite the rendering
[02:24] <fouad_> and the creation to make it more custom
[02:24] <StepNjump> Yes but that would but everything the same.. I looked at all the permissions in there and they are all different pragmaticenigma
[02:25] <StepNjump> that's one I will never forget. I spent my youth in DOS pragmaticenigma
[02:26] <pragmaticenigma> StepNjump: Yes, they are different, but this will not hurt anything
[02:26] <Lake31> what is the channel for Linux Mint?
[02:26] <bazhang> !mintsupport | Lake31
[02:26] <Plop> anyone know how to get XChat to highlight certain words?
[02:27] <bazhang> Plop, settings > preferences
[02:28] <StepNjump> pragmaticenigma, really... nice! No problem with security either?
[02:28] <pragmaticenigma> StepNjump: It's going to allow anyone with access to the system the chance to see your file... is this a local machine or are you remoted to a shared computer?
[02:29] <owner_> can someone please tell me how to chmod using the -R to get all my files and folders in /home/owner to be under my user's permission?
[02:29] <StepNjump> I'm remoted with RDC to Windows
[02:29] <StepNjump> and smb://
[02:29] <owner_> I'm having a huge file permissions issue
[02:29] <StepNjump> pragmaticenigma sorry
[02:29] <pragmaticenigma> StepNjump: another option would be to setup a new user account, copy your personal files to that new account and then delete the old account
[02:29] <StepNjump> Yes I though about doing that too
[02:30] <pragmaticenigma> StepNjump: that way your the normal settings are setup properly, and you only have to worry about your personal files
[02:30] <owner_> Ya guys that's what i just did, but the permissions are wrong.
[02:30] <StepNjump> What about if I were restoring from my backintime?
[02:30] <owner_> SOS please help
[02:30] <pragmaticenigma> I'm not familiar with backintime, sorry
[02:30] <owner_> sudo chmod  u=rx /home/owner* -R does not work
[02:30] <StepNjump> I just forgotten to do a cd Documents before changing to 644!
[02:31] <jiohdi> owner for one I think it is u+rx
[02:31] <pragmaticenigma> owner_: your commands are in the wrong order... but the -R before the u=rx
[02:31] <penguin_03> does ubuntu 10.04 obey the DEB_BUILD_HARDENING variable? In other worlds will it enable what http://wiki.debian.org/Hardening#Using_Hardening_Options says it does for debian?
[02:32] <scorinitron> I'm trying to install flubox in xubuntu do I need to get rid of anything first?
[02:32] <pragmaticenigma> penguin_03: Ubuntu is based on Debian... I would think that anything available to Debian should be available in Ubuntu
[02:32] <owner_> pragmaticenigma I tried that
[02:32] <owner_> it's telling me that I don't have permission
[02:32] <bazhang> scorinitron, nope
[02:32] <owner_> because I can't change the .gvfs file
[02:33] <pragmaticenigma> owner_: check out jiohdi comment
[02:33] <owner_> I tried changing the permissions for .gvfs but it won't let me
[02:33] <owner_> using sudo nautilus
[02:33] <scorinitron> Thanks bazhang, I'm new to the xfce GUI how would I get/apply themes? (trying to get a wicked tron theme going ^^)
[02:34] <bazhang> scorinitron, in flux? or in xfce4
[02:34] <bazhang> scorinitron, oh wait flubox? or did you mean fluxbox
[02:34] <owner_> chmod: cannot access `/home/owner/.gvfs': Permission denied pragmaticenigma jiohdi
[02:35] <scorinitron> Yeah Yeah Fluxbox ^^
[02:35] <scorinitron> and I'm using xubuntu 11.10 I think that's xfce4
[02:35] <jiohdi> owner_, u=rx does not give you write permissions... that seems important
[02:35] <bazhang> scorinitron, log out then choose fluxbox from the login screen
[02:35] <pragmaticenigma> scorinitron: yes, there isn't anything you should remove until after you have fluxbox installed
[02:35] <scorinitron> wait a min...I didn't install it
[02:35] <owner_> jiohdi that's correct
[02:36] <jiohdi> owner_, if you have no write permission... dont that mean you cannot alter it?
[02:36] <owner_> I haven't used chmod before
[02:36] <scorinitron> what's the Terminal command? I keep getting it wron
[02:36] <scorinitron> g
[02:36] <owner_> jiohdi I ran nautilus as sudo to try and fix it
[02:36] <jiohdi> scoopex, xterm?
[02:37] <owner_> jiohdi tried right clicking on it to change the properties
[02:37] <jiohdi> scorinitron, sorry
[02:37] <pragmaticenigma> owner_: the problem with that is nautilus needs that folder to work
[02:37] <scorinitron> ?
[02:37] <fouad_> does anyone know of a good php QR code generator library ?
[02:37] <jiohdi> btw, I just discovered guake, which gives you an instant drop down terminal screen on f12, I love it
[02:37] <pragmaticenigma> scorinitron: what command are you looking for?
[02:37] <bazhang> scorinitron, terminal command to install fluxbox?
[02:37] <scorinitron> ^^ Yep
[02:38] <bazhang> !find flux
[02:38] <owner_> pragmaticenigma so your saying I have to close the system and start it in terminal only mode with no GUI to fix this?
[02:38] <scorinitron> sudo apt-get install fluxbox ?
[02:38] <bazhang> yep
[02:38] <scorinitron> didn't work...
[02:38] <pragmaticenigma> owner_: I think what you need to do is create a new user account and move your stuff to it
[02:38] <bazhang> what error scorinitron
[02:38] <owner_> pragmaticenigma if I do that, I'll still have my file permission issues
[02:38] <scorinitron> strike that I got it
[02:38] <scorinitron> ^^
[02:39] <scorinitron> Thanks guys
[02:39] <ubuntu_> I did dd if=xy.img of=/dev/sda bs=4m by mistake and I wanted to do /dev/sdb after I rebooted grub says: unknown filesystem, any ideas how to fix this?
[02:39] <pragmaticenigma> owner_: You fix those individually
[02:39] <owner_> wow, too many files to fix individually
[02:40] <owner_> need to use -R to fix them all
[02:40] <pragmaticenigma> ubuntu_: You will need to reinstall
[02:40] <owner_> Oh wow
[02:40] <owner_> ok
[02:40] <pragmaticenigma> owner_: that wasn't for you
[02:40] <ubuntu_> pragmaticenigma, there's no other way? do you know how I can pick up my files as my home partition was decrypted
[02:40] <scorinitron> ok so now that it's installed...how would I install a theme?
[02:40] <pragmaticenigma> can't people come up with more unique names so they aren't so easily confused
[02:40] <ubuntu_> encrpyted*
[02:40] <scorinitron> or would it be better if I log out and lof back in...
[02:40] <scorinitron> *log
[02:41] <pragmaticenigma> ubuntu_: dd overwrote all your data and there is very little chance that you will recover that
[02:41] <pragmaticenigma> !dd
[02:41] <ubuntu_> :(
[02:41] <freetz> anyone using libarchive-dev on 11.10? I can link against it just fine on 11.04, but on 11.10 it just goes to lunch and it can't resolve symbols to that library
[02:41] <freetz> ld shows that i'm reading in the library just fine though...
[02:42] <pragmaticenigma> the program dd makes a bit for bit copy from one device or image to another device... there are no failsafes
[02:42] <mazda01> howdy. happy thanksgiving to those in the US
[02:43] <mazda01> is there an easy way to setup a folder of music to share to the internet? I already run a webserver with mythweb, just can't figure out how to have a folder like view and when I click on the file I want to play, it launches a media player and plays it./
[02:43] <bazhang> scorinitron, log out then log in after choosing fluxbox
[02:43] <scorinitron> kk brb
[02:44] <ubuntu_> pragmaticenigma, is there any way I can mount that partition via live cd?
[02:44] <pragmaticenigma> ubuntu_: all of your data has been lost when dd wrote the image data to the device... it will not likely mount
[02:44] <pragmaticenigma> ubuntu_: The data is gone
[02:45] <hdpb> I just found a tutorial to add shred to the context menu. Is there a way to require a password before it executes?
[02:45] <ubuntu_> pragmaticenigma, I realize that it's just hard to comprehend as I had so many important things on that disk
[02:45] <fouad_> pragmaticenigma, could you please recommend to me a php framework that is good for rendering QR codes
[02:45] <pragmaticenigma> hdpb: No, best to remove it from your context menu and instead designate a folder and setup a script to clear files placed in it using shred
[02:45] <orlok> ubuntu_: generally this lesson takes a hardware failure to learn
[02:46] <orlok> ubuntu_: so think yourself lucky
[02:46] <scorinitron> back
[02:46] <orlok> ubuntu_: (restore from your backups.. what backups? theres your lesson)
[02:46] <fouad_> wb scorinitron
[02:46] <scorinitron> and jezz this is minimalistic
[02:46] <pragmaticenigma> ubuntu_: dd overwrote everything on your harddrive with the file information in the *.img file... there is no recoverable information left except for the information that was in the *.img file
[02:47] <scorinitron> so...um wow
[02:47] <orlok> pragmaticenigma: actually, it depends on the size of the .img file
[02:47] <hdpb> pragmaticenigma: any tutorials you know of? Definitely don't  need to have my 5-year-old with shredability...
[02:47] <scorinitron> I now have no idea where to begin...0.0
[02:47] <skyball> i've downloaded SuperTuxKart, and it is Awesome.  Except no joysticks have worked for me yet, I've tried two.  The application sees them, and I can configure buttons, but I cannot race with the joystick, only keyboard. :(    Can anyone help?
[02:47] <ubuntu_> orlok, I have backups, just not from the important thing I was working on for past few days
[02:47] <orlok> ubuntu_: how big was the .img file?
[02:47] <ubuntu_> it was image of chromium-os ~400mb
[02:47] <fouad_> hey somsip
[02:47] <scorinitron> fouad_, Thanks man!
[02:48] <pragmaticenigma> orlok: If he wants to recover the data this is not the place to find help on that... it's far beyond the scope of this forum
[02:48] <scorinitron> fouad_, Didn't see the message till now ^^
[02:48] <orlok> ubuntu_: there may be  a way to retrieve your data, i'm not sure how though.
[02:48] <fouad_> haha its ok
[02:48] <ubuntu_> orlok, lets see if google helps
[02:48] <orlok> ubuntu_: http://freecode.com/search?q=ext3+data+recovery&submit=Search
[02:49] <pragmaticenigma> ubuntu_ orlok : the only place I can think of to start would be photorec... that's all I can suggest and help with
[02:49] <bazhang> !undelete > ubuntu_
[02:49] <pragmaticenigma> !pm | bazhang
[02:49] <ubuntu_> pragmaticenigma, I used photorec once and it did wonders for me
[02:49] <bazhang> pragmaticenigma, hmm?
[02:50] <pragmaticenigma> it might get *SOME* and I stress *SOME* of you data
[02:50] <pragmaticenigma> bazhang: it's best to keep all comments and help in the main chat and not redirect comments to pm messages
[02:51] <bazhang> pragmaticenigma, thats not what the !pm was made for
[02:51] <pragmaticenigma> bazhang: I don't have every canned response memorized
[02:51] <mrpink57> you better get on that :)
[02:51] <scorinitron> is their a way to put short cuts on the desktop of fluxbox?
[02:52] <bazhang> pragmaticenigma, using the > to redirect factoids is 100% fine
[02:52] <benjr> ive got a webcam which is listed as being UVC supported in linux (http://www.ideasonboard.org/uvc/), i plug it in, open cheese, and it says no webcam detected, what do i do?
[02:52] <pragmaticenigma> but then I don't get the benefit of seeing the message and therefore risk repeating it contradicting what was said
[02:53] <bazhang> pragmaticenigma, thats why most of us have a /msg open with ubottu
[02:53] <pragmaticenigma> !ot | bazhang
[02:53] <bazhang> pragmaticenigma, please stop that
[02:53] <darktstar999> both of you...............
[02:55] <scorinitron> Ok well I'm back in fluxbox...and it's naked lol
[02:55] <scorinitron> where would I start
[02:56] <benjr> ive got a webcam which is listed as being UVC supported in linux (http://www.ideasonboard.org/uvc/), i plug it in, open cheese, and it says no webcam detected, what do i do?
[02:56] <goer> Hi all. I hv Ubuntu installed and another debian distro. I need to reinstall Ubuntu but want to keep the grub of the other distro intact. Hoto pls. Thnx
[02:56] <goer> Howto
[02:56] <pragmaticenigma> scorinitron: I think it's time to experiment... also, I think google is going to get you answers much quicker than we can as you learn new territory
[02:56] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox scorinitron
[02:56] <stoufa> hi everybody
[02:56] <goer> hi
[02:56] <bazhang> goer, what other distro
[02:57] <goer> Elive2
[02:57] <scorinitron> Thanks guys
[02:57] <pragmaticenigma> benjr: We need more information , what is the make and model of the webcam
[02:57] <scorinitron> I guess I'm off
[02:57] <pragmaticenigma> benjr: Have you tried searching for your device name and ubuntu or linux on google to see if others have had problems or solutions on how to resolve the issue you are experiencing
[02:58] <goer> bazhang, is that a Chinese name? Ba Zhang
[02:58] <bazhang> goer, elive2 is a derivative of ubuntu? why not just use e17 with ubuntu
[02:59] <Elems> Sup dudes. ctrl + alt + f2 through f6 all bring up a blank screen, no console or anything. Also, I have no splash image when this laptop starts up, are these issues possibly related?
[02:59] <pragmaticenigma> !ot | goer
[02:59] <jibin> 1
[02:59] <bazhang> !webcam > benjr
[02:59] <goer> bazhang, No, that is another issue. I just want to know how to do the reinstall whilst keeping my Other distro grub intact
[03:00] <bazhang> benjr, best to check the list of supported webcams
[03:00] <pragmaticenigma> Elems: no, they are likely different... splash screen is related to your graphics drivers
[03:00] <benjr> pragmaticenigma, its a "Creative Live! Cam Optia", as for searching google, the first few pages ive found are just peoepl saying it worked, still searching now
[03:00] <benjr> bazhang, thanks, checking that site now
[03:00] <pragmaticenigma> ttys are setup differently... what is the make and model of your computer Elems
[03:00] <bazhang> goer, well you'd have to update grub for elive2 then
[03:01] <bazhang> goer, not sure why  it matters which writes to the mbr though
[03:01] <goer> bazhang, Ah, ok, reinstall ubuntu and then boot into the other dualboot ditro and do a sudo update -grub?
[03:01] <Elems> pragmaticenigma : I have a lenovo u460 with the geforce 305m graphics card, using proprietary drivers, and switchable graphics turned off in my bios
[03:02] <Henric__> I was hoping someone could help me. Oneirc Ocelot won't load Unity, in normal or recovery mode.
[03:02] <goer> bazhang, If I use the ubuntu mbr the other ditro hangs, That is why
[03:02] <bazhang> goer, that would do it, though it adds an extra (and unnecessary imo ) step
[03:02] <stoufa> I have a problem with webcam and graphics card does not work
[03:02] <pragmaticenigma> Elems: I have the same issue with my desktop and an nvidia card... sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't... any particular reason you need the ttys outside the GUI?
[03:03] <Elems> pragmaticenigma not really, just an observation recently. I was thinking it could somehow be related to suspend and hibernate not working on this laptop, which was going to be my next issue to ask about
[03:04] <goer> bazhang, I hv seen a howto on installing Windoze as dualboot, after ubuntu is already installed. But hv lost the location where...
[03:04] <benjr> bazhang, that list says its supported by UVC, the UVC's website says that the driver is natively installed in kernel 2.6.26 and later, im running kernel 2.6.35
[03:04] <Elems> pragmaticenigma also, after going into the ttys I can't ctrl alt f7 back into the gui
[03:04] <pragmaticenigma> Elems: suspend and hibernate are known issues for all machines... the two are highly unrelated... however I wouldn't be concerned about not seeing a boot splash or having access to the ttys
[03:04] <bazhang> goer, well be certain to have backups (of course) and choose the correct partition to write ubuntu to
[03:05] <pragmaticenigma> gui is on F8
[03:05] <Elems> pragmaticenigma oh... that would explain that.
[03:05] <bazhang> benjr, what have you tried? cheese? camorama? or something other
[03:05] <benjr> bazhang, cheese
[03:06] <goer> bazhang, thnx 4 ur help. So if i reinstall ubuntu, where to put the grub? In mbr or a separate place?
[03:06] <pragmaticenigma> yeah... pet peeve of mine Elems, depending in the distro they seem to move it around... Fedora its F1, CentOS and OpenSuse F7, Ubuntu F8
[03:07] <goer> Wow....I must say this is a very good irc. Gr8! :)
[03:08] <Elems_> pragmaticenigma well that didn't work either :D
[03:08] <pragmaticenigma> Not f1 either?
[03:09] <pragmaticenigma> Elems_: Does it at least boot into the GUI?
[03:09] <pragmaticenigma> Elems_: also, sometimes it takes a moment or two for the screen to redraw when you hit the right one
[03:10] <Elems_> pragmaticenigma What do you mean? I'm on the laptop right now. So what happened is I tried going into the f2, knowing it wouldnt work, then tried to go to the f8 and that didn't work. I waited.
[03:10] <pragmaticenigma> what about F1?
[03:10] <Mitochondria> Probably Irvine
[03:10] <Henric__> Could someone please tell me why I can't get past grub to Unity in 11.10? I don't want to reinstall Ubuntu and lose what I've been able to download so far.
[03:10] <Elems_> pragmaticenigma I'm not going to worry about that issue any longer... f1 kills it too
[03:12] <pragmaticenigma> Elems_: sounds like a good plan... if it does what you need it to, wouldn't worry too much about the rest... it's gotta be on one of the function keys... I just don't know which one (footnote: my laptops running ubuntu seem to use F8 while my desktop uses F7)
[03:13] <blargg> I seem able to mount a Mac OS X HFS+ volume that uses journaling under Ubuntu as read-write. I had read that it supports read-only if journaling was enabled. I'm worried it'll corrupt it since it appears read-write. What's up?
[03:14] <Elems_> pragmaticenigma And you don't have any advice on suspend / hibernation before I ask the whole channel?
[03:14] <benjr> bazhang, after reading your comment i just installed camorama and it worked :) only cheese that doesnt seem to work
[03:14] <bazhang> benjr, thats a good start then
[03:15] <pragmaticenigma> Elems_: Most here will say the same thing... Power Management in linux is still a work in progress... it either works at this point or it doesn't
[03:15] <Elems_> pragmaticenigma that's what i was afraid of :(
[03:16] <TroN-0074> hi
[03:16] <pragmaticenigma> Elems_: I see it work a little more dependably on older hardware
[03:16] <Crim> Hey guys
[03:16] <Crim> I'm calling the cops on you all
[03:16] <bazhang> Crim, wrong ,place for that
[03:16] <TroN-0074> yes
[03:16] <Crim> You use the illegal, communist (AGAIN- READ, ILLEGAL), Lunix OS
[03:16] <devkorcvince> benjr after running camorama try cheese again... it might be a problem on gstream v4lsrc
[03:16] <szal> lol
[03:16] <bazhang> Crim, #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:17] <TroN-0074> what is lunix os?
[03:17] <Crim> Developed by the North Chinese to build a net bot meant to kill the United Stated Internet
[03:17] <Crim> And you are all going to jail
[03:17] <bazhang> TroN-0074, lets move on please
[03:17] <TroN-0074> sure
[03:17] <pragmaticenigma> thanks you bazhang
[03:17] <Crim> Oh now you censor free speech?
[03:17] <Crim> COMMUNIST SCUM
[03:17] <Crim> I can say what I want
[03:17] <bazhang> Crim, thats enough
[03:17] <FloodBot1> Crim: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:18] <Crim> You stupid north chinese.
[03:18] <geoffmcc> dont feed the trolls
[03:18] <skyball> get out
[03:18] <benjr> devkorcvince, heh youre right, although cheese is very laggy, the stream on camorama is smooth
[03:18] <c_smith> what is goint on here?
[03:18] <c_smith> *going
[03:18] <aeon-ltd> war
[03:18] <aeon-ltd> HUH!
[03:19] <TroN-0074> anyway I just downloaded irssi so I thought to give it a try here tonight
[03:19] <aeon-ltd> What is it good for?!
[03:19] <TroN-0074> good so far
[03:19] <bazhang> aeon-ltd, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:19] <szal> aeon-ltd: Absolutely nothing!
[03:19] <c_smith> *sigh* should I get an op or someone in here to deal with this? I'm pretty sure #ubuntu is NOT for messages of pure opinionrs. and hate towards othe
[03:19] <darktstar999> TroN-0074: irssi is good
[03:20] <bazhang> c_smith, its over , lets move on
[03:20] <aeon-ltd> TroN-0074: +1 the autocomplete algorithm is awesome compared to other irc clients
[03:20] <c_smith> TroN-0074, I've heard people who use it tend to like it if they like use Command line.
[03:20] <darktstar999> offtopic
[03:20] <c_smith> bazhang, ok
[03:20] <TroN-0074> yes since I am new to ubuntu I want to force myself to use the command line
[03:20] <darktstar999> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:21] <blargg> OK, I just tried touching a file on this HFS+ journaled volume, unmounting, then remounting, and the date stayed modified, so writing is indeed being allowed. I mounted normally from Disk Utility, so I don't get it. Either HFS+ journaled can be modified now, and the docs are wrong, or the system is incorrectly allowing writes.
[03:21] <c_smith> TroN-0074, I wouldn't say that's the best route for most people, but everyone learns differently, so if you learn better that way, go for it, but please, could we continue this in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[03:21] <c_smith> I'm sure everyone else would appreciate it.
[03:22] <SpyderZ> Hey guys, quick question.
[03:22] <blargg> I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 as well, nothing really new.
[03:22] <pragmaticenigma> !ask | SpyderZ
[03:22] <zerosum> Hi, I cannot get a viable Android Virtual Device going under
[03:22] <zerosum> opps, under eclipse
[03:23] <afm> evening all.  having an odd issue on a fresh install of 11.10 on a dell 1950.  One nic is working perfectly, however the 2nd doesn't show in ifconfig, but i can see it in lspci and dmidecode… ideas on what i'm missing?
[03:23] <c_smith> zerosum, I'm not sure what you're asking
[03:23] <StepNjump> I am trying to run a limited account (desktop user). How can I possibly run sudo from such an account? sudo -i?
[03:23] <skyball> !patience
[03:23] <SpyderZ> I have a friend with an old laptop that I want to run Ubuntu, but after making the Pendrive with my SanDisk Cruzer and creating a boot drive to install Ubuntu, the system wouldn't boot the drive. I don't have any CD or DVD media to burn a disk. Is there a method I can still get Ubuntu to install?
[03:24] <bazhang> SpyderZ, does it have the option to boot from usb? how old is old
[03:24] <pragmaticenigma> afm: A fresh install typically will setup a primary network card, it's up to you to configure the additional cards, likely through network manager
[03:24] <zerosum> The emulator never seems to launch it is in the process of launching but it never actually gets to the HOME screen
[03:24] <StepNjump> spyderZ some of the old computers don't boot from USB pens... Have you tried to go in the BIOS?
[03:24] <BernSamson> How do I permanently disable an input device?
[03:24] <SpyderZ> bashing StepNJump: Yes, was in the BIOS and set to USB boot and nothing.
[03:24] <c_smith> hmmmm, well, I have no way to help you, tbh, that's not my strong point.
[03:25] <SpyderZ> Machine is at least 6-7 years old.
[03:25] <StepNjump> mmm
[03:25] <devkorcvince> SpyderZ: have you change the boot sequence on the bios?
[03:25] <StepNjump> It ignored it altogether?
[03:25] <devkorcvince> SpyderZ: ooopz late rply
[03:25] <chay> can anybody help me in traffic redirection on Ubuntu/pound with the config files ?
[03:26] <supercar_heaven> how to decrease the brightness of me netbook screen i have nvidia optimus technology graphic card
[03:26] <SpyderZ> Yeah, I got the bios set to what it should be and nothing. If I could install a new partition, copy the image and modify the boot menu.
[03:26] <geoffmcc> SpyderZ: if there is an option in the bios to boot from usb there should be no problem. it may be the drive or it may just have fouled up when you were prepairing
[03:26] <AndrewX192> I am looking to setup a tripple monitor setup on Ubuntu 10.04. Any recommendations for a graphics card?
[03:26] <skyball> i've downloaded SuperTuxKart, and it is Awesome.  Except no joysticks have worked for me yet, I've tried two.  The application sees them, and I can configure buttons, but I cannot race with the joystick, only keyboard. :(    Can anyone help?
[03:27] <devkorcvince> AndrewX192: Nvidia works fine on me using the recommended driver...
[03:27] <afm> pragmaticenigma:  i edit /etc/network/interfaces… and restarted… Cannot find device "eth1" and Failed to bring up eth1.  nothing in dmesg
[03:28] <AndrewX192> devkorcvince: But with 3X monitors? If so - twinview?
[03:28] <ADildeaux> Chimpout forum wishes Freenode a Happy Thanksgiving!
[03:29] <ADildeaux> Please feel free to join us in fellowship on Thanksgiving
[03:29] <SpyderZ> San Disk puts this stupid U3 partition on it's USB disk keys.
[03:29] <SpyderZ> I need to wipe the entire drive, get that crap off.
[03:29] <geoffmcc> SpyderZ: i was just gonna say that, i am reading right now nattty has problems with it
[03:29] <ADildeaux> Join us in celebrating human productivity and its triumph over leaching feral negros!
[03:29] <geoffmcc> SpyderZ: there is u3-tool in repository
[03:30] <ADildeaux> Join in Chimpout Forums' Thanksgiving celebration.
[03:30] <skyball> where do I find a support channel for SuperTuxKart ?
[03:30] <devkorcvince> AndrewX192: it can detect my hdmi and vga monitor it has no problem doing it... i can set the position also...
[03:31] <skilz> skyball, google it? Whats the problem?
[03:31] <skyball> skilz:  It sees my joystick(s) and I can set the buttons.  But I can only play the game with keyboard only. :(
[03:31] <geoffmcc> SpyderZ: or use sandisk's tool if only have windows available
[03:32] <SpyderZ> geoffmcc: I see that now.
[03:32] <SpyderZ> Yeah, I have Virtualbox with Win7 right now.
[03:32] <SpyderZ> That's how I made the boot drive.
[03:32] <EnigmaticEffigy_> Hello. In Ubuntu 10.10, where is grub.conf located?
[03:33] <dr_willis> !grub2
[03:34] <AndrewX192> devkorcvince: I already have a simular setup. It really hinges on 3 monitors instead of 2, there is talk of it not being supported
[03:34] <EnigmaticEffigy_> I haven't lost grub. I just need to add a line to the conf file.
[03:34] <dr_willis>  /boot/grub/grub.cfg   is for grub2. but you nomrally DONT edit that file by hand
[03:34] <mwhudson> anyone know why "Make Discoverable Apple AirTunes sound devices available locally" might be greyed out in paprefs?
[03:35] <JusticeZero> Any word on the freezing problem in 11.10?
[03:35] <happyface> !who
[03:35] <EnigmaticEffigy_> I know, I just need to add the one line for my network card.
[03:36] <AndrewX192> devkorcvince: "MetaMode 1 of Screen 0 has more than two active display devices."
[03:38] <chay> can anybody help with a Ubuntu/pound problem diverting all http traffic on port 80 to port 80 of an internal iis server. we currently diver all htts traffic on port 443 to port 80 internally of the iis server. ?
[03:38] <stoufa> what's means sudo apt-get install subversion mkdir webcam-driver someone help me
[03:39] <mwhudson> oh hm, it seems to be in effect anyway
[03:39] <devkorcvince> AndrewX192: are you using 2 video cards right? or are you using a laptop? my bad I use 2 monitors and the third 1 is my laptop monitor...
[03:39] <geoffmcc> stoufa: sudo gives superuser apt-get install installs packages subversion mkdir webcam-driver are the packages to install
[03:40] <dr_willis> !apt | stoufa
[03:41] <stoufa> svn co svn://rastageeks.org/svn/ov51x-jpeg/trunk webcam-driver and this
[03:41] <mediat0r> Hey everybody. So I have a quick question about sharing files with Samba. I was following the guide here (http://goo.gl/JAXPc) which recommends sharing from /srv/samba/sharename. If I wanted to share files from other locations can I just mount files to this location and then add the approriate lines to smb.conf? What options should I put for the mount in fstab?
[03:41] <AndrewX192> devkorcvince: No, I think I'd just be going with one.
[03:41] <dr_willis> !svn
[03:42] <dr_willis> stoufa:  svn is used to compile stuff :) basically...
[03:42] <BernSamson> how do you permanently disable an input device?
[03:42] <dr_willis> BernSamson:  depends on the device i imagine.
[03:42] <CarlFK> mediat0r: "other locations" sounds like they are all ready mounted somewhere else
[03:43] <chay> can anybody help with a Ubuntu/pound problem diverting all http traffic on port 80 to port 80 of an internal iis server. we currently diver all htts traffic on port 443 to port 80 internally of the iis server. ?
[03:43] <BernSamson> I've been using xinput set-prop 12 "Device Enabled" 0 ... but I'm finding I need to input that in Terminal everytime I boot up...is there a way to make that permanent so I don't need to do it every time I boot?
[03:43] <mediat0r> CarlFX: yeah they are files located in /home
[03:44] <dr_willis> BernSamson:  theres the various user autorun methods. and theres some ways to get stuff ran by the login manager also.
[03:44] <dr_willis> !autorun
[03:44] <dr_willis> !autostart
[03:44] <dr_willis> BernSamson:  its possible /etc/rc.local may do what you need as well.
[03:44] <CarlFK> mediat0r: I think you want to share /home/the_user, or maybe /home/the_user/some_sharedir
[03:45] <bandit22> anybody use mupen64plus or know where to get help for it
[03:46] <bazhang> bandit22, whats the question? from the PPA?
[03:46] <SpyderZ> geoffmcc: I think I got it working now thanks. Now I can get kid on Ubuntu and off Windows XP.
[03:46] <bandit22> from repo v1.5 not able to select rice video plugin
[03:46] <bazhang> ah its in the repos now
[03:47] <c_smith> bazhang, I'm pretty sure just the Getdeb repos
[03:48] <geoffmcc> SpyderZ: good, i totally forgot about u3 and should have firstly asked if it was sandisk, but in my defence, i always remove u3 whenever i get one
[03:48] <bazhang> c_smith, the regular ubuntu repos
[03:48] <bazhang> !info mupen64plus
[03:48] <mediat0r> CarlFK: You're exactly right and I understand how to share such locations. So it's not bad practice to share different locations on the OS like /home directories? I thought it would be better to keep all shares in the same place?
[03:48] <c_smith> bazhang, huh, didn't know that.
[03:49] <whoever> can i have ssh-server without ssh-client? or must I have both?
[03:51] <CarlFK> mediat0r: i think it depends on what the security needs are, like is it a server with a bunch of users that have a common place to share with other win boxes, or the same one user on 2 boxes
[03:52] <BernSamson> I think I've got it...
[03:52] <bjorn_> hello
[03:52] <CarlFK> mediat0r: and even then I don't think there is much consensus on what's best.
[03:53] <orlok> whoever: iu.. guess so.. if you really wanted to.. but.. WHY/
[03:53] <BernSamson> Willis: just add a 'disable' name and add the disable string to the 'run'?
[03:53] <Osmodivs> Hello. Is this a bad message from synaptic when updating yhe kernel? run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/dkms 3.0.0-14-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-14-generic  Error! Problems with depmod detected.  Automatically uninstalling this module. DKMS: Install Failed (depmod problems).  Module rolled back to built state.
[03:53] <Osmodivs> Like, do I have to worry about that?
[03:54] <SpyderZ> Geoffmcc: Didn't work…still. Unreal, I hate Sandisk. However miracle friend just dropped by with a spare DVD-R. :)
[03:54] <mediat0r> CarlFK: it's a server where many users have access to the shared content. The folders are rwx enabled for users both on the computer and from accross the network. It might not be approriate to even have the data stored in /home
[03:55] <CarlFK> mediat0r: in that case your original idea sounds good
[03:56] <mediat0r> CarlFK: cool! good to know I was on the right track. any idea what options I need to have for the mount in fstab?
[03:56] <geoffmcc> SpyderZ: a friend indeed, good luck!
[04:00] <CarlFK> mediat0r: the fstab entry is not really related to how samba shares the dir.  fstab gets the file system on a partition mounted so the linux OS can let processes access the files.  samba is a process, and it then needs to be configured to share those dirs
[04:01] <dr_willis> shareing a ntfs? or other weird filesystem?
[04:01] <CarlFK> dr_willis: sounds like normal ext
[04:02] <mediat0r> CarlFK: so mounting files i want to share into /srv/samba/ from other locations and then adding lines in smb.conf refferring to the /srv/samba location (rather than the origional location) is kinda unessecary?
[04:02] <Amdpc> HI...I am trying to connect to LAN,WLAN and Mobile Broadband at the same time....But it is accepting only 2 connections at a time..Is it normal ? (Wifi is used only to connect to another computer)
[04:03] <Amdpc> And If I want all the connections at the same time...How to do that ?
[04:03] <CarlFK> mediat0r: what do you mean by  "other locations" ?
[04:03] <dr_willis> mediat0r:  a filesystem has to be mounted somewhere. befor you can share it.
[04:03] <dr_willis> it also has to have the proper permissions.
[04:04] <opticlove> can someone help me? when i try to shrink a partition using gparted, the system freezes. i'm booting from a live cd
[04:04] <Ycarene> Strange, I lost the ability to play .m4a files in qmmp after doing some updates.
[04:05] <mediat0r> CarlFK: se files I want to share are already mounted to /home and they are the files I wish to share but I read that it is good practice to have shares located at /srv/samba/ so I thought I could also mount them to that location?
[04:05] <CarlFK> mediat0r: there is no "also mount"
[04:05] <mediat0r> CarlFK: okay I see where I am confused now :P
[04:05] <dr_willis> mediat0r: you can easially set up the users 'homes' as a special share. where user bob, could connect to a share thats /home/bob   user bubba can get to /home/bubba and so forth.
[04:06] <seekwill> Hi. Which file determines which rcX file is used when starting up?
[04:06] <dr_willis> !upstart
[04:07] <seekwill> dr_willis: ah, thanks
[04:07] <mediat0r> CarlFK, dr_willis: thanks for your help :)
[04:07] <asmodeus> how do i get window focus to follow the mouse again?  after upgrading to 11.10, i can't seem to find window settings anywhere.
[04:08] <dr_willis> asmodeus:  i saw that setting somewhere. :) it Might have been in the gnome-tweak tool.
[04:08] <fengshaun> hi all, how can I make a daemon autostart on boot?
[04:08] <nvz> are there any fancy options for an unsupported printer like there are for network cards? I got a Lexmark X2350 here and doesnt seem to work at all in linux
[04:09] <fengshaun> like ssh daemon in this case
[04:09] <asmodeus> dr_willis: installing...
[04:09] <dr_willis> fengshaun:  when you install the open ssh service. it should set itself to autostart by default.
[04:09] <fengshaun> dr_willis: ah, alright!  Thanks!
[04:10] <dr_willis> you can use the service command to see what services are running
[04:11] <fengshaun> dr_willis: that helps, thanks
[04:12] <asmodeus> dr_willis: That did it.  Thanks.  Any idea how I can get my drawers back on the menu bar?
[04:13] <dr_willis> what drawers?  You using gnome classic? or unity or what?
[04:14] <asmodeus> sorry, gnome classic.
[04:14] <dr_willis> i dont use it.. thers some shift-ctrl-right click combo to tweak the panels..
[04:15] <l3mon> yea the new bar is terrible
[04:15] <chavov_> i think it's alt-right click
[04:15] <asmodeus> dr_willis: alt-right click did it.  T
[04:16] <asmodeus> Many than ks
[04:16] <dr_willis> perosnally.. i think they shouldent even have the fallvback/classic modes. :)  gnome2 is dead.. time to move on. :P
[04:18] <l3mon> this bar is pretty terrible everyone knows it
[04:18] <asmodeus> not to be "too cool for the room", but I just found unity to be unusable.  For example: why would it hide my file, edit, view, etc. menus from me?
[04:18] <bazhang> l3mon, hardly a support question though
[04:18] <dr_willis> asmodeus:  you mean move them to the top global menu?
[04:19] <dr_willis> you can turn global menu on/off if you wanted to.
[04:19] <chavov_> no he means not hide them when the mouse is off, but of course you can't do that
[04:19] <l3mon> no but Im just voicing my opinion
[04:19] <blake> gnome shell is amazing
[04:19] <zibbit> Hi, i need help desperately, i am trying to take the steps necessary in installing Windows 7 on my cmputer sans dvd, can anyone hep me?
[04:19] <bazhang> l3mon, #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat please
[04:19] <dr_willis> zibbit:  ive heard you can dd the win7 iso to a flash to make a bootable flash.. but you may want to ask in #windows
[04:19] <bazhang> zibbit, related to ubuntu how?
[04:20] <l3mon> and now I go to mint
[04:20] <orlok> zibbit: Why.. would you ask that here? Just because you think we know everything?
[04:20] <docmur> There is a serious issue with my network, every so often is seems to lose network connectivity and just not function, then it would work for a while and do this all over again. When it does wortk I get great bandwidth to and from the router, when it seems to not respond it can't contact the modem
[04:20] <zibbit> Evidenly it seems as though u know everything so tell me why i'm wrong for making that assumtion... i am copying files to the root directory
[04:21] <chaslinux> docmur is it a dlink router?
[04:21] <docmur> yes
[04:21] <zibbit> i am taking trying to create an appropriate partition
[04:21] <bazhang> zibbit, ##windows
[04:21] <docmur> I have two connections to it
[04:21] <docmur> a wireless and wired
[04:21] <chaslinux> docmur do you also have Windows clients on that router?
[04:21] <orlok> zibbit: you are not asking how to install ubuntu, you are asking how to install windows.. so ask ##windows?
[04:21] <docmur> both active
[04:22] <zibbit> Jtfking christ, i want to knw abut a partition, forget the hostility...
[04:22] <chaslinux> docmur what I've found with every dlink wifi router I've owned is they all seem to do that around the 5-6 month mark.
[04:22] <chaslinux> I switched to a Linksys router and haven't had a problem.
[04:22] <bazhang> zibbit, no cursing, and wrong channel for it ##windows please
[04:23] <chaslinux> docmur I noticed it happening with dlink routers particularly when Windows clients tried doing Windows Live sessions... don't know why but the darn dlink wifi routers just don't seem to be very good. (went through 3 myself)
[04:24] <docmur> I seem to have lost connection to this
[04:25] <chaslinux> yup, I also upgraded the firmware after resetting the routers and the upgrades didn't help any...
[04:25] <chaslinux> Honestly, even netgear routers lasted longer for me... but now using Linksys and Tomato/MLPPP and it's nice and stable... mind you we only have 1 Windows client in the house.
[04:25] <docmur> sorry got disconnected
[04:25] <docmur> anyone have an idea
[04:28] <mohi666> How can I find out info about my motherboard?
[04:28] <bazhang> mohi666, sudo lshw
[04:28] <nvz> mohi666: what kind of info are you looking for?
[04:29] <nvz> usually lshw, lsusb, lspci..etc will tell you tons
[04:29] <nvz> adding -v's as needed
[04:29] <chaslinux> mohi666 lshw, lspci, cat /proc/cpuinfo, cat /proc/meminfo
[04:29] <chaslinux> Oh and dmidecode and biosdecode can be helpful too
[04:30] <tucemiux> what's the recommended ubuntu version for netbooks nowadays?
[04:30] <bazhang> tucemiux, the latest
[04:30] <chaslinux> tucmemiux after 10.04 they merged the netbook remix into the normal release.
[04:30] <bazhang> !une | tucemiux
[04:31] <tucemiux> bazhang, thanks!  you know if I can install 11.04 using a usb stick?
[04:32] <bazhang> tucemiux, sure, use unetbootin
[04:32] <tucemiux> bazhang, my laptop has 11.04 so Im going to create a usb stick with it
[04:32] <Jordan_U> tucemiux: Might as well go with 11.10.
[04:32] <tucemiux> Jordan_U,  yeah but its going to be a pain to create the usb stick
[04:33] <Jordan_U> tucemiux: Why do you say that?
[04:33] <chaslinux> tucemiux just use startupdiskcreator in Ubuntu 11.04 with an ISO it's easy
[04:33] <tucemiux> Jordan_U, because I have to download 11.10?
[04:34] <tucemiux> but you know what, i dont have 11.10 - going to download just for kicks and giggles
[04:34] <tucemiux> !unetbootin
[04:38] <tucemiux> bazhang, you convinced me, unetbootin is installed o.O
[04:42] <whoever> orlok: why would i need the client if i am no ssh-ing from the box that has the server on it
[04:42] <A|i3N> Is there any software similar to artisteer for editing Joomla templates available for ubuntu?
[04:46] <digdeep> Hi, I use Jupiter to control my laptop's performance. I put it into power save mode, as the laptop is hot. After upgrade to latest kernel, the fan runs like crazy and it is hot.
[04:47] <digdeep> Jupiter doesn't seem to be working.
[04:47] <tucemiux> bazhang, I dont see an option in unetbootin for 11.10??
[04:47] <bazhang> digdeep, jupiter installed from where?
[04:47] <rfay> digdeep, there is a serious problem with battery performance in latest Ubuntu - you'll see it in  the latest release notes. Could be related?
[04:48] <dr_willis> tucemiux:  theres altertives to unetbootin at the pendrivelinux web site. Or you can 'dd' the 11.10 iso directly to a flash drive and have a bootable flash.
[04:48] <Jordan_U> tucemiux: Just download the Ubuntu 11.10 iso and tell unetbootin to use it. It will work.
[04:49] <tucemiux> Jordan_U, but which option should I choose? under "SELECT VERSION"???
[04:49] <digdeep> @bazhang: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/jupiter-applet-finally-available-for.html
[04:49] <alazare619> just wanted to say found a pretty cool linux mmo called wakfu
[04:49] <alazare619> check it out
[04:49] <samc101> does anyone use blackbuntu
[04:49] <alazare619> not much for linux gaming but this is worth a look
[04:49] <bazhang> digdeep, some PPA from webupd8?
[04:50] <digdeep> @bazhang, yes
[04:50] <bazhang> samc101, no idea, not a supported distro here
[04:50] <samc101> ok thanks
[04:50] <Jordan_U> tucemiux: You shouldn't. Use the Diskimage option.
[04:50] <bazhang> digdeep, sorry, try contacting the PPA maintainer I guess
[04:50] <digdeep> anyway to lower the performance of my laptop. It is too hot
[04:52] <tlf> Has anyone heard of mozilla crashing after installing updates in the last 48 hours?
[04:52] <tlf> on natty
[04:53] <SpyderZ> Is there anyways to install Ubuntu from the command line instead of the GUI it auto boots into?
[04:53] <bazhang> SpyderZ, using the alternate cd? text based you mean?
[04:54] <SpyderZ> Yeah, text based
[04:54] <bazhang> SpyderZ, the minimal or the alternate cd then
[04:54] <SpyderZ> I have a laptop with a cracked screen and have a second LCD monitor hooked up.
[04:54] <SpyderZ> I set the BIOS to CRT only to have the LCD as the primary but Ubuntu ignores that and the signal is cut off when it loads the GUI.
[04:55] <SpyderZ> Thought there might had been some key combo I could press for Text install option.
[04:55] <bazhang> !alternate | SpyderZ this and !minimal
[04:55] <samc101> does anyone now how to work te bluetooth on ubuntu i have been having some trouble
[04:55] <bazhang> SpyderZ, not with the live cd afaik
[04:55] <SpyderZ> Thanks
[04:57] <digdeep> Jupiter works on lower version of kernel. It is getting cooler now.
[04:57] <shayne> i am looking for a program like "wine" but actually lets the windows program run instead of doing nothing. anyone know a program that works?
[04:57] <tucemiux> Jordan_U, ahhh ok, got it, thanks!
[04:57] <Jordan_U> tucemiux: You're welcome.
[04:57] <bazhang> shayne, runs? wine runs fine
[04:58] <nvz> shayne: haha, wine works good for me all the time.. what kind of program are you trying to run?
[04:58] <bazhang> shayne, check the appdb first
[04:58] <bazhang> !appdb | shayne
[04:58] <shayne> bazhung, not on my machine im trying to run blackberry desktop software
[04:58] <bazhang> shayne, check if wine supports it
[04:59] <nvz> shayne: ah well that could be tricky.. many apps run well, but that one would involve complicated matter of accessing certain proprietary drivers for a usb device
[04:59] <nvz> shayne: have you looked into the blackberry software that is native linux?
[05:00] <nvz> shayne: I never owned a blackberry or used any of the software but I do recall there being blackberry sync software for linux
[05:01] <chaslinux> My 9780 connects and syncs without need for Windows software.
[05:01] <bazhang> !info barry-util | shayne
[05:01] <chaslinux> Berry can do it...
[05:02] <shayne> nvz , i looked into a software that runs on linux meant for the blackberrys and it all comes down to one, nothing lol
[05:03] <michaelaa> hi im trying to add the xvid codec to ububntu
[05:03] <bazhang> michaelaa, installed the ubuntu-restricted-extras package yet?
[05:03] <michaelaa> yes
[05:04] <bazhang> michaelaa, its in there
[05:04] <michaelaa> but whan i go to a website that has xvid it wont play
[05:04] <nvz> oh well he left, but I'm fairly certain there is bb software for linux
[05:04] <bazhang> michaelaa, what website
[05:05] <nvz> yep, its called barry
[05:05] <michaelaa> watch-movies.net
[05:05] <bazhang> michaelaa, no such site
[05:05] <thirteenth> By the way, random shout-out, I gave Ubuntu a go on my laptop this last week, and I really am liking it--in fact, I put Windows 7 back on it, but then found myself missing Ubuntu. I think I'm a convert..? lol
[05:05] <thirteenth> (and I put Ubuntu back on--erasing Windows 7 I meant)
[05:06] <michaelaa> give me one second to find the url
[05:06] <michaelaa> http://www.watch-movies.net.in/
[05:06] <michaelaa> that is the site
[05:07] <michaelaa> it says that im missing a plugin
[05:08] <Dante_> hii
[05:08] <Bsims> michaelaa: what plugin is it screaming about
[05:08] <thirteenth> Anyway, on my first go at Ubuntu, my touchpad worked fine (Dell Inspiron E1705), but now when I re-installed it, it doesn't detect it-I have to connect my USB trackball to get pointing action.. I looked in the Preferences for Mouse/Touchpad, and touchpad's listed, I just don't know what's going on? Sorry to bother you folks..
[05:09] <michaelaa> it says that i am missing the xvid plugin]
[05:09] <Bsims> Ouch laptops are touchy sorry no idea thirteenth
[05:09] <Bsims> michaelaa: try telling it to use mplayer or vlc for xvid
[05:09] <scorinitron> I think I have a bit of a problem
[05:09] <Bsims> install mplayer and all the non free plugings you can find
[05:09] <scorinitron> I just went into the home folder and this message came up
[05:10] <scorinitron> Error stating file '/home/scorinitron/.gvfs': Transport endpoint is not connected.
[05:10] <michaelaa> ok i will try
[05:10] <thirteenth> Bsims: Oh, it's not your fault, no need to apologise. I'm going to poke around some more, if I fix it, I'll let know what/if I did..
[05:11] <mohi666> does anybody know how I can verify if the following video card will work with my motherboard?
[05:11] <mohi666> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125366
[05:11] <Bsims> scorinitron: do this for me scorinitron sudo touch /forcefsck <enter> that will force your pc to run basicaly scandisk on next boot
[05:11] <mohi666> and motherboard is dell 0fm586
[05:11] <jschall> how can i get rid of pulseaudio? it's breaking wine again.
[05:11] <michaelaa> did you guys get the url
[05:12] <michaelaa> http://www.watch-movies.net.in/
[05:12] <Bsims> jschall: gonna have disable the module, can't remove it its now a dependency
[05:12] <scorinitron> Thanks Bsims
[05:12] <jschall> Bsims: how?
[05:12] <Bsims> then apt-get install something else like jackd or esd
[05:13] <Bsims> jschall: http://www.jeffsplace.net/node/12
[05:13] <scorinitron> I can't get this stupid theme to install either :(
[05:13] <michaelaa> if you go on that site you it says that you need the xvid plugin
[05:14] <bazhang> michaelaa, nope it tells me hulu does not service my area
[05:14] <Bsims> jschall: what country ya in?
[05:15] <Bsims> er michaelaa what country ya in
[05:15] <michaelaa> united states
[05:15] <jschall> Bsims: hmm, i'm actually using kde so we'll see how this works...
[05:16] <Bsims> michaelaa: huh worjs here
[05:16] <Bsims> jschall: same here but cli doesn't care what terminal you type it in
[05:16] <michaelaa> how did you do that
[05:16] <jschall> Bsims: well, audio currently broken...
[05:16] <Bsims> michaelaa: picked a movie and clicked play on the flash window
[05:17] <Bsims> jschall: install anything with alsa and then kill pulseaudio via pid
[05:17] <michaelaa> for me it says i need a xvid plugin
[05:17] <jschall> Bsims: what do you mean install anything with alsa?
[05:17] <Know1edge> hey guys, considering to switching to ubuntu, but have one small hang up... i need photoshop for my job, any ideas on how to get around it or use a vm or something?
[05:17] <Bsims> or go into sound manager and tell it it needs to use alsa server
[05:18] <Bsims> just a second jschall
[05:18] <jschall> Bsims: also i installed esound-common, couldn't find anything else to do with esd
[05:18] <bazhang> Know1edge, cs seems to work in wine
[05:18] <bazhang> Know1edge, check the appdb of course
[05:18] <bazhang> !appdb | Know1edge
[05:19] <Bsims> jschall: alsa-base, alsa-oss, alsa-utils
[05:19] <Jordan_U> Bsims: pulseaudio runs on top of ALSA, it doesn't replace it. If jschall has pulseaudio installed he already has (and is using) ALSA.
[05:19] <Bsims> michaelaa: got nothing for xvid
[05:19] <rcolby> knowledge, dual booting may be an option if you only need it to run photoshop for work?plus less resource intensive
[05:20] <jschall> Jordan_U: any idea how to get rid of pulseaudio?
[05:20] <Bsims> Jordan_U: yeah but its pulse isn't native alsa
[05:20] <jschall> Jordan_U: and end up with working sound?
[05:20] <Bsims> had me some issues with it
[05:20] <michaelaa> i have a package called gstreamer that i and it says that it play xvid but it dosent play
[05:20] <thirteenth> Some versions of Photoshop run quite well under WINE, so I've read, Know1edge
[05:21] <jschall> wine seems to be completely fubar atm because of pulseaudio...
[05:21] <Jordan_U> jschall: No.
[05:21] <Jordan_U> jschall: Why do you think that pulseaudio is the problem?
[05:22] <dr_willis> everyone loves to blame pulse audio :)
[05:22] <Bsims> michaelaa: got installed the gstreamer0.10-plugins-foo
[05:22] <jschall> Jordan_U: because #winehq says so
[05:22] <Bsims> dr_willis: with reason if ya were there for its teething pains
[05:22] <jschall> Jordan_U: and because the bug reports they linked say so
[05:22] <volga629> files       read sudoers from F</etc/sudoers>
[05:23] <bazhang> volga629, pardon?
[05:23] <Jordan_U> jschall: Can you give me a link to this bug report?
[05:23] <volga629> Is some body know correct syntax
[05:23] <bazhang> volga629, to do what
[05:23] <volga629> Some reason nswitch.conf ignore derective files for ldap sudoers
[05:24] <jschall> Jordan_U: this is one: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28282
[05:24] <jschall> Jordan_U: "because pulseaudio decided permanently not playing audio for a program after an underrun is a good idea"
[05:24] <Nicolus> nick c_nick
[05:25] <dr_willis> buffer underruns :)
[05:26] <jschall> Jordan_U: i don't understand why they blame pulseaudio when its installed on almost every desktop linux machine in the world, though. they should probably be working around any of its faults...
[05:26] <volga629> so it looking straight to ldap also I added nss_initgroups_ignoreusers into the sudo-ldap.conf, but this one is ignored too, so the local system user unable run tasks properly
[05:28] <Jordan_U> jschall: Have you tried asking in #pulseaudio? Also note that installing esound is probably not a good idea, and since you're using KDE with phonon the instructions for disabling pusleaudio use in gstreamer which Bsims linked too might not apply.
[05:29] <bazhang> emmabot, hi
[05:29] <Bsims> Jordan_U: though you can tell phonon what backend to use
[05:30] <jschall> sigh. i just want my stupid game to work. i think i'll just make a windows partition for the first time in 8 years
[05:31] <dr_willis> or just use a desktop that dosent start up pulse audio...
[05:31] <soreau> jschall: Whar stupid game is it?
[05:31] <jschall> dr_willis: idk where to find one any more. i want latest release of kde, no pulse audio, debian-based
[05:31] <jschall> soreau: portal 2
[05:32] <dr_willis> you could always just use some minimal desktop to start the game from
[05:32] <soreau> jschall: steam worked in wine for me but my drivers werent good enough to actually play portal
[05:33] <jschall> soreau: yeah, steam is working, portal isn't crashing in wine 1.3 but sound doesn't work at all
[05:33] <jschall> soreau: portal crashes in wine 1.2
[05:33] <soreau> jschall: Have you tried adjusting sound settings in winecfg?
[05:33] <learner_> hi, im getting this error message when trying to increase priority of "java" proces in 11.10 : "Cannot change the priority of process with pid 25173 to -20. Permission denied"
[05:34] <soreau> jschall: toggling hardware emulation
[05:34] <soreau> learner_: try sudo renice?
[05:35] <michaelaa> bsims i have GStreamer FFmpeg video plugin
[05:35] <Jordan_U> learner_: renicing to -20 can be a bad idea as it can starve other important processes (hence the need for root privs to do it). Why not choose a less negative niceness? What is your end goal?
[05:36] <jschall> soreau: they redid the sound
[05:36] <Jordan_U> !pm | learner_
[05:37] <soreau> jschall: that doesnt answer my question though
[05:37] <learner_> sorry im new.
[05:37] <Bsims> eh may be a old package try in #pulseaudio
[05:38] <jschall> soreau: yeah, i messed with winecfg
[05:38] <Jordan_U> learner_: I guess any negative niceness requires root privileges. So sudo should work, but do not use -20.
[05:38] <learner_> im playing minecraft. [ but even if i do -5 it doesnt let me
[05:38] <dr_willis> -19.999 :)
[05:39] <learner_> im really new to this, what do i use exactly?  : sudo niceness java -10?
[05:39] <learner_> i dont know much about terminal
[05:39] <dr_willis> why are you even needing to do this learner_ ?
[05:39] <Jordan_U> learner_: Also, changing nicesness might not speed things up at all.
[05:40] <learner_> im playing minecraft...
[05:40] <soreau> learner_: What do you mean it wont let you see?
[05:40] <the_holstar> I want to install Counter Strike 1.6 on ubuntu 11
[05:40] <the_holstar> Where can i find the manuals for this?
[05:40] <dr_willis> so you are playing mine craft......
[05:40] <soreau> learner_: I found disabling compiz/unity allowed mc to run much better here
[05:40] <bazhang> the_holstar, the appdb
[05:40] <dr_willis> !appdb | the_holstar
[05:40] <bazhang>  /join #winehq the_holstar
[05:42] <learner_> ] <soreau> hmmm,  how do i restore unity once i killed it?
[05:42] <Bsims> the_holstar: wineqg but it may be ancient info
[05:43] <dr_willis> unity --restart  or unity --replace
[05:43] <soreau> learner_: dont kill unity directly, just replace it with another wm for example, by running metacity --replace
[05:43]  * Bsims grins and I am typing this under urxvt with gnuscreen
[05:43] <learner_> is it the same efect if i log on with ubuntu classic?
[05:44] <soreau> probably
[05:44] <learner_> ok gonna try that
[05:44] <learner_> ill be back
[05:44] <soreau> unless compiz is the default
[05:44] <soreau> in which case you would still need to run metacity --replace
[05:45] <yagoo> rpm -q --requires package, equivalent? (i've done the dpkg/apt equivalent but forgot).. anyone?
[05:46] <yagoo> nmind i found it! :)
[05:46] <SolarisBoy> dpkg -l 'package'
[05:46] <Dante_> dpkg -i
[05:46]  * Bsims grins I got asked about unity, LOL I do 90% of everything on kde running a urxvt terminal running GNUScreen
[05:46] <SolarisBoy> ummm
[05:46] <Bsims> gnome gives me the hives, if I cant run kde I run wmaker or xfce
[05:46] <SpyderZ> Does Ubuntu have a remote desktop feature built in or am I going to have to set up VNC?
[05:46] <SolarisBoy> dpkg -i is for install no? rpm -q is for query
[05:47] <bazhang> Bsims, lets stay on topic please
[05:47] <dr_willis> SpyderZ:  gnome has vino. which is a vnc server built in
[05:47] <Bsims> SpyderZ: depends talking to windows or X server
[05:47] <yagoo> (was actually to list packages that need package-- i incorrectly asked as well lol)
[05:47] <learner_> how do i message someone in particulkar with out pm?
[05:47] <SolarisBoy> dpkg -l lists
[05:47] <SpyderZ> I want to connect Ubuntu to Ubuntu remote desktop
[05:48] <SolarisBoy> you can put an alternate package name after the l or a regex in qoutes
[05:48] <dr_willis> !info vin
[05:48] <dr_willis> !info vino
[05:49] <SpyderZ> thanks
[05:49] <dr_willis> theres always ssh and  X forwarding :)
[05:49] <jianfei> that was 8 years
[05:49]  * Bsims nods vnc is well suported r do x forwarding
[05:50] <bobweaver> Hi there I have a directory  called ~/foo and there are about 50 some directorys under it. I want to take out all the .jpg and move them to a file called ~/Testing  how to go about this ?
[05:50] <dr_willis> then theres freenx :)
[05:50] <dr_willis> !nx
[05:50] <jianfei> wanker
[05:50] <jianfei> i want 4 months
[05:50] <learner_> ok, it did help dudes, thanks!
[05:50] <Bsims> bobweaver: cd /home/name/foo
[05:50] <sinisterstuf> bobweaver: mv *.jpg ~/Testing
[05:50] <ranjan> hi all, how to connect to sametime using empathy?
[05:50] <yagoo> am looking for the RTFM document to disable NM*= , I want to only use /etc/network/interfaces << I want an official way to do this..
[05:50] <jianfei> how do you know
[05:50] <yagoo> anyone?
[05:50] <SolarisBoy> yagoo: maybe this "apt-cache depends pidgin"
[05:51] <jianfei> what if it did
[05:51] <bazhang> jianfei, pardon?
[05:51] <ferni> after update to firefox 8 on 11.10 it displays notifications on its own popup on bottom right corner of the screen. it should use the libnotify. right?
[05:51] <Bsims> crap gonna have to use xargs my way give me a bit
[05:51] <bobweaver> sinisterstuf:  but there are 50 dir under ~/foo
[05:51] <jianfei> bazhang, every clever
[05:51] <bazhang> jianfei, thats enough
[05:51] <sinisterstuf> bobweaver, oh, sorry I misread, you can use a forloop
[05:52] <jianfei> bazhang, sorry mate wont happen again
[05:53] <sinisterstuf> bobweaver: cd ~/foo; for i in `find . | grep -i 'jpg$'`; do; mv $i ~/Testing; done
[05:53] <sinisterstuf> bobweaver, that should work but maybe try 'cp' or just 'echo' before you try to 'mv' them, if you need an explanation of the commands just ask (maybe in private)
[05:54] <sinisterstuf> bobweaver, also, I separated commands with semicolons (;) so they all go on 1 line, usually you would put a newline where the semicolons are
[05:54] <bobweaver> I see i is var
[05:54] <sinisterstuf> yeah, a temporary var, I could have called it something more meaningful like $picture
[05:55] <bobweaver> that is cool
[05:55] <bobweaver> why the $ after .jpg ?
[05:56] <sinisterstuf> in a regular expression $ means the end of the string, this will match foo.jpg or foojpg (not right) but won't match jpg2png.sh
[05:56] <jianfei> ok who sent her?
[05:57] <sinisterstuf> here's some more info on loops: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/loops1.html
[05:57] <sinisterstuf> they're really useful
[05:57] <jianfei> rarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[05:58] <sinisterstuf> also if you have spaces in the filenames you might need to escape $i with quotes, as in "$i" (sometimes helps)
[05:58] <jianfei> now im awake
[05:58] <jianfei> ???
[05:58] <sinisterstuf> jianfei, you ok?
[05:59] <the_holstar> how do i install wine? apt-get install wine?  will it install everything?
[05:59] <jianfei> Snicksie,
[05:59] <bazhang> jianfei, stop now
[05:59] <dr_willis> the apt system shold install all needed  dependencies the_holstar
[05:59] <the_holstar> okay
[06:00] <sinisterstuf> the_holstar, yes, but you might want to have a look at the different wine packages, some of the update more regularly, sometimes that causes regression with your windows programs
[06:00] <jianfei> bazhanng, i am serious.. ive lost a soldier
[06:00] <COoltuX> hi all
[06:00] <bazhang> !ot | jianfei
[06:00] <sinisterstuf> the_holstar also might want to install winetricks (very useful)
[06:00] <the_holstar> hmm
[06:00] <the_holstar> yeah
[06:01] <the_holstar> that's what i was looking for
[06:01] <the_holstar> so wine and winetracks right?
[06:01] <the_holstar> apt-get install wine winetracks
[06:01] <sinisterstuf> that should be fine, yes
[06:01] <dr_willis> I thought winetricks got installed along with  wine.
[06:01] <dr_willis> !info winetricks
[06:01] <sinisterstuf> afaik it came seperately, it's just a small script
[06:01] <bluebomber> Where can one ask questions about subnet settings on one's network besides ##networking?
[06:02] <sinisterstuf> btw http://wiki.winehq.org/RegressionTesting
[06:03] <jianfei> well she is dead now
[06:05] <mazda01> has anyone used a home folder which was previously used in 10.04 within 11.10?
[06:05] <mazda01> not sure how some of the customizations or config files will be handled.
[06:05] <mazda01> not to mention all my customizations within the /etc/ folder
[06:06] <mazda01> i'd love to try a dist-upgrade all the way to 11.10 but i have had such bad luck in the past
[06:06] <Toph2> mazda01,,, i am
[06:06] <sinisterstuf> I think for at least *some* programs for configin /etc the installer will present you with an option to overwrite / keep / merge / something
[06:06] <sinisterstuf> mazda01 ^
[06:06] <mazda01> Toph2, oh really? so you did a fresh install of 11.10 and just did custom partioning and pointed your mount point /home/ to your old home partiiton?
[06:07] <mazda01> sinisterstuf, i wasn't going to dist-upgrade though
[06:07] <Toph2> mazda01,,, yes,, that is what I did,, i tried an upgrade initially which was a disaster
[06:07] <mazda01> Toph2, that's been my past experience with dist-upgrades that far
[06:07] <sinisterstuf> just going to install the new one over, keeping your /home partition?
[06:08] <mazda01> Toph2, i've even had bad results just upgrading 1 version
[06:08] <Toph2> mazda01,,, yes, itwasn't the first time for me either
[06:08] <bazhang> mazda01, thats not what a dist-upgrade is
[06:08] <mazda01> sinisterstuf, i think that would result in best stability of my system don't you?
[06:08] <bazhang> !dist-upgrade | mazda01
[06:08] <orated> How to increase master volume of client system when connected to it via ssh?
[06:08] <mazda01> bazhang, ok sorry, i am using old terminolgy
[06:08] <the_holstar> my wine is not responding at all
[06:08] <the_holstar> :S
[06:09] <the_holstar> i installed it a week ago
[06:09] <the_holstar> it used to work
[06:09] <sinisterstuf> mazda01, probably, but in that case, if you're overwriting the / drive all your /etc would be lost unless you back it up, but all your config in ~ would remain exactly intact
[06:09] <the_holstar> now it doesn't get started
[06:09] <mazda01> orated, can't you start alsa-mixer using X11 forwarding? ssh -X foo@blah
[06:10] <mazda01> orated, once in, you should be able to type in alsa-mixer, i think anyway
[06:10] <mazda01> it should open an alsa-mixer window on your remote connection screen.
[06:10] <mazda01> sinisterstuf, right, i know all that.
[06:10] <mazda01> sinisterstuf, thank you though
[06:10] <admonarelis> hola
[06:10] <sinisterstuf> orated, it depends what's playing the music. I think you mean server not client. and if the program has volume control (like mplayer does and mpc does) you can use that, or you can use alsa-mixer for master volume if it's installed and you use alsa
[06:11] <mazda01> sinisterstuf, after the fresh install I run diff on all my /etc/ files I backed to see what changed in the newer versions of the pacakges
[06:11] <sinisterstuf> mazda01, sorry I couldn't be of more help
[06:11] <mazda01> sinisterstuf, no, you were helping. sorry if it came off rude
[06:11] <orated> sinisterstuf: Sorry, you are rright. I'm at the client end controlling master volume of server
[06:12] <mazda01> alright, take care alll
[06:12] <admonarelis> necesito ayuda para entender la configuracion dee mi servidor IRC
[06:12] <bazhang> !es | admonarelis
[06:12] <orated> Thanks
[06:12] <admonarelis> gracias
[06:15] <COoltuX> any application to sync my blackberry with ubuntu????
[06:15] <bazhang> barry-util COoltuX
[06:15] <bazhang> !info barry-util | COoltuX
[06:15] <COoltuX> thank you bazhang ;)
[06:17] <orated> bazhang: With reference to the factoid you pulled for dist-upgrade - How does installation of  new dependencies for packages already installed can affect the system?
[06:17] <roasted> Question - how do I initialize an iPod on Ubuntu? I got an error on Rhythmbox when it prompted me to do so.
[06:17] <COoltuX> roasted | use gtkpod
[06:17] <yesh> hey all
[06:18] <yesh> can anyone help me with skype on ubuntu?
[06:18] <roasted> COoltuX, that "initializes" it as fat32?
[06:18] <COoltuX> yeap
[06:18] <bazhang> orated, could you rephrase please?
[06:18] <roasted> COoltuX, I assume afterward I can use rhythmbox or banshee?
[06:18] <yesh> the mic doesnt seem to work
[06:19] <yesh> built in mic that is
[06:19] <COoltuX> yesh go to alsamixer and see if it's activated
[06:21] <yesh> do i have to dl alsamixer first?
[06:22] <jeaton> not necessary a ubuntu question, but I formatted an mp3 player the other day really low level, so it erased the software and everything on it, i'm assuming
[06:23] <jeaton> i do have another mp3 player identical to the other one, if I were to "dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=/dev/sdb2" would it put everything back on the formated one
[06:23] <bazhang> yesh, no need just type alsamixer in terminal
[06:24] <jeaton> assuming of course the formatted one is sdb2
[06:25] <orated> bazhang: The dist-upgrade factoid you pulled from ubottu says -  A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed - How can that affect the system over normal upgrade?
[06:25] <yesh> bazhang: i typed it in and it opened up a whole bunch of menus
[06:25] <yesh> I see the mic thing over there but whats an indication that its on/off?
[06:29] <bakemal> can I get help about XChat-GNOME here?
[06:30] <bakemal> most instructions I find online are for plain XChat
[06:30] <bakemal> and -GNOME seems very different
[06:31] <bakemal> how can I set aliases here?
[06:31] <bakemal> there seems to be nothing in the Edit->Preferences
[06:32] <yesh> skype still cant seem to pick up my mic
[06:36] <orated> bakemal: #xchat
[06:36] <bakemal> ohthanks
[06:36] <bakemal> I love you all, but I must leave you now
[06:36] <D3RGPS31> my cursor keeps jumping (almost) to the bottom left of my screen, always at the same position, at random moments; even when not moved
[06:36] <bakemal> forever
[06:36] <D3RGPS31> it also appears there at startup; my xorg config hasn't changed in a while, and this started happening after i booted the machine up :l
[06:37] <orated> !
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> D3RGPS31: does the system have a make and model? (Bet its a sony vaio)
[06:38] <D3RGPS31> ActionParsnip: the system is custom :l
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> D3RGPS31: ah, so not a laptop :-)
[06:38] <D3RGPS31> it was fine until i booted it up yesterday; could it be hardware?
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> D3RGPS31: possible, got another mouse to test?
[06:39] <D3RGPS31> my only other mouse has a 1 metre cord :l damn my lazyness
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> D3RGPS31: also, pull the mouse out, wait a few seconds then reattach.
[06:40] <Rotator> How to install debian?
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> Rotator: debian is offtopic here. Try in #debian
[06:41] <Multbrelch> Rotator, go to Debian pages and read their further instructions
[06:42] <rodhash> Guys, how can I check what's the module for my dvd drive?
[06:42] <rodhash> [    2.150176] sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
[06:42] <Rotator> No one tell me in #debian
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> Rotator: then wait. This channel is ubuntu support only
[06:43] <D3RGPS31> ActionParsnip: seems replugging it in worked; thank you :3
[06:43] <Squarism> What happened to the "deb" command in 11.10?
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> D3RGPS31: cool
[06:43] <rodhash> Guys, any idea?
[06:43] <Rotator> I know, thank you
[06:43] <Multbrelch> Rotator, see here: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/
[06:44] <Rotator> thank you
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> rodhash: optical drives don't need extra co
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> Config
[06:44] <rodhash> ActionParsnip, So it doesn't use a module?
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> rodhash: yes but its inbuilt in the kernel itself
[06:45] <D3RGPS31> I unplugged my mouse, but it's moving (slightly) on its own; oh gawd
[06:46] <D3RGPS31> (it being the cursor)
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> Squarism: not used it. What does it do? Maybe there is an equivalent
[06:46] <rodhash> The actually issue is: cdrecord hung and I can't kill it because it's in uninterrupble state... Any idea how to eject my cd?
[06:46] <Squarism> ActionParsnip, i think it adds ppa sources?
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> rodhash: sudo eject /dev/sr0    maybe
[06:47] <rodhash> I tried.. but didnt work :(
[06:47] <skypent> Anyone had experience with installing the amazon-mp3 program for ubuntu 11.10?
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> Squarism: 'deb' for a source is more than likely a line to be added to sources.list
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> Squarism: is it:  deb http://something oneiric main
[06:48] <rodhash> So.. maybe just a reboot will eject my cd.. :(
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> Squarism: or similar
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> rodhash: is the process dead?
[06:49] <rodhash> ActionParsnip, No, it's in uninterrupble sleep
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> rodhash: what did my command output? Simply saying 'didn't work' helps nobody
[06:50] <D3RGPS31> my cursor is moving without a mouse :v
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> rodhash: kill the parent process then :-)
[06:50] <rodhash> ActionParsnip, the shell frozen when I typed that
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> D3RGPS31: do you use a mousemat?
[06:51] <D3RGPS31> ActionParsnip: no
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> D3RGPS31: my mouse at work likes to wander unless I use a mouse
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> Mat sometimes
[06:52] <D3RGPS31> :l
[06:52] <D3RGPS31> i have no input device other than my keyboard
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> D3RGPS31: try a book or similar
[06:53] <yesh> anyone had any probs getting skype to work on ubuntu?
[06:53] <D3RGPS31> ActionParsnip: what?
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> D3RGPS31: why is the keyboard of interest?
[06:53] <D3RGPS31> ActionParsnip: i removed the mouse, but the cursor is moving on its own
[06:53] <D3RGPS31> ActionParsnip: it's the only input device i'm using right now, yet the cursor is moving on its own :l
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> D3RGPS31: yes, you said and I saw
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> D3RGPS31: try a book as a mousemat
[06:54] <D3RGPS31> ActionParsnip: ... i am not using a mouse right now, and the cursor is moving, a mousemat is irrelevant :l
[06:54] <D3RGPS31> there is no mouse connected to my machine, and the cursor is moving
[06:55] <dr_willis> laptop?
[06:55] <sinisterstuf> that happens to me too on my laptop, even when it had windows, I find putting it down on a flat surface with the screen not pushed too far back helps :D
[06:55] <D3RGPS31> dr_willis: no; as i said, there is -no- other input device other than my keyboard
[06:56] <sinisterstuf> do you have a ghost in your machine?
[06:56] <D3RGPS31> :l
[06:58] <dr_willis> try differnt disrots. and live cd's see if its consistantly doing the movement across differnt os's
[07:00] <aruncn1> who -d gave list of dead processes. What does this mean? i see some 250 dead processes on my system. what can i do?
[07:01] <dr_willis> aruncn1:  i see 9 here.
[07:01] <dr_willis> whats your uptime?
[07:01] <dr_willis>  uptime
[07:01] <dr_willis>  21:01:33 up 11 days,  2:00,  4 users,  load average: 0.05, 0.03, 0.05
[07:02] <aruncn1> 01:01:55 up 78 days, 29 min, 51 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
[07:02] <skypent> I can't seem to get amazon's mp3 installer to work on 11.10?
[07:02] <dr_willis> Hmm.. a lot of users.. but no load. :)
[07:02] <skypent> sorry that was meant to be a statement.  The question is, can anyone assist with that?
[07:03] <aruncn1> dr_willis: hmm.. this is a high configuration server
[07:03] <dr_willis> my box is just my own little server.  ssh and samba and thats about it.
[07:04] <aruncn1> What are these dead processes? Do they have any significance? any action required?
[07:04] <dr_willis> No idea
[07:04] <dr_willis> never really heard of it being an issue
[07:05] <aruncn1> ok
[07:05] <wolfman3k5> how can I get PHP FPM enabled in Ubuntu 10.04
[07:05] <alexanderliu> anybody here?
[07:05] <dr_willis> 1500+ people here. :) and botx
[07:06] <alexanderliu> yes.I am new here. the very first time to use ubuntu for me
[07:06] <alexanderliu> sry wolf i dont know
[07:07] <alexanderliu> do you know how to install typing software in linux? i am a chinese but i dont know how to type characters. -)
[07:07] <dr_willis> just googling aruncn1  and i see...
[07:07] <dr_willis> Zombies are dead processes.  You cannot kill the dead.  All processes eventually die, and when they do they become zombies.  They consume almost no resources, which is to be expected because they are dead!  The reason for zombies is so the zombie's parent (process) can retrieve the zombie's exit status and resource usage statistics.  The parent signals the operating system that it no longer needs the
[07:07] <dr_willis> zombie by using one of the wait() system calls.
[07:07] <FloodBot1> dr_willis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:07] <dr_willis> !ch
[07:07] <dr_willis> Hmm thats not the right one
[07:07] <dr_willis> !zn
[07:08] <alexanderliu> hey.
[07:08] <dr_willis> Theres some linux Chinese channel. but im not sure which one it is.
[07:08] <rumpe1> !zh
[07:08] <alexanderliu> okay. thank you.
[07:09] <alexanderliu> my god. we got a chinese dude
[07:09] <aruncn1> dr_willis: ty
[07:09] <alexanderliu> hey. okay i will try
[07:09] <dr_willis> or someone that rembered the chinease factoid.
[07:19] <KPoh9> hi, I have a question.  I setup a static IP for my machine, but how do I ssh into it? It refuses the port when I try from another computer
[07:21] <aruncn1> kpoh9:are you able to ping your machine from another computer? are you able to telnet to your machine on ssh port?
[07:23] <LemanHTC> Hey
[07:23] <diverdude> h
[07:24] <CodeZombie> I'm trying to add a postfix install via apt-get to an unattended bootstrap script for my servers. However, postfix requires some human interaction to select the type of install. Is there a way to specify this, so I don't have to do it every time?
[07:26] <CarlFK> CodeZombie: I think you want debconf-set-selections - kinda like this: https://github.com/CarlFK/veyepar/blob/master/setup/pxe/install.sh#L24
[07:26] <CodeZombie> ah, yes thanks CarlFK
[07:28] <como> I have a problem: .profile doesn't execute when I log into the graphical session (gdm), but it works find from tty.  what could be wrong?
[07:30] <como> any idea?
[07:34] <aruncn1> como: you can run gnome-session-properties and check if  "user folder update" and "gsettings data conversion" are checked
[07:35] <K-Rich> hey all
[07:35] <michaela> hi im trying to get the xvi codec to work on ubuntu 11.10
[07:37] <gstreamer236> How hard is it to port a fedora driver to ubuntu?
[07:38] <michaela> when i go on this website http://www.watch-movies.net.in/ it says " you are missing xvid plugin to play vidios"
[07:38] <yagoo> gstreamer236, across similar linux/x86.. should be easy
[07:39] <yagoo> gstreamer236, pretty much make install
[07:39] <michaela> i installed the ubuntu restricted extras
[07:39] <aruncn1> michaela: tried installing smplayer?
[07:39] <michaela> ok give me a sec
[07:39] <yagoo> aruncn1, isnt ~/.xsession still used in 11.10?
[07:40] <yagoo> aruncn1, isnt or ~/.xinitrc still used in 11.10?
[07:40] <aruncn1> yagoo: don't think so
[07:41] <michaela> and when i install smplayer how do i open and play the video
[07:42] <CarlFK> CodeZombie: debconf-utils has debconf-get-selections wich will show what options were in effect once someting is installed... so you can run that on a box that has postgresql installed and see what settings are avlible
[07:43] <CodeZombie> CarlFK: thanks again sir
[07:43] <michaela> ok i installed smplayer now what
[07:44] <CadetX> ikonia, HEY YOU SON OF A BITCH
[07:44] <CadetX> sup?
[07:44] <pangolin> !language | CadetX
[07:44] <CadetX> pangolin, we are friends
[07:44] <CadetX> he is cool with that
[07:45] <pangolin> the rules here are not cool with it.
[07:45] <bazhang> CadetX, no cursing
[07:45] <CadetX> its not cursing
[07:45] <CadetX> if all of your mothers are bitches
[07:45] <CadetX> :D :D
[07:48] <gstreamer236> yagoo, it has the same kernel version
[07:48] <gstreamer236> so its plausable?
[07:48] <gstreamer236> they have* the same major kernel version
[07:49] <yagoo> gstreamer236, what module is this?
[07:50] <gstreamer236> um, whats module?
[07:50] <gstreamer236> googleing it, if you dont mind waiting
[07:50] <yagoo> gstreamer236, if you dont know what a module is.. dont bother compiling anything
[07:51] <gstreamer236> um.. sorry?
[07:51] <gstreamer236> well i compiled stuff before.. if that means anything
[07:52] <yagoo> gstreamer236, still waiting.. you sure are slo!!
[07:52] <yagoo> gstreamer236, you dont know the source of the tarball?
[07:54] <gstreamer236> you mean the driver source?
[07:55] <gstreamer236> we build it with our own software
[07:55] <yagoo> gstreamer236, what software?
[07:56] <yagoo> gstreamer236, surprises me you keep insisting what is a module..
[07:57] <gstreamer236> module is the chunk of code loaded into the kernel to control a device?
[07:57] <yagoo> gstreamer236, how old are you?
[07:58] <gstreamer236> 21
[07:58] <yagoo> gstreamer236, you should get some help compiling that module/driver code for your software whatever it is..
[07:58] <michaela> im sorry but can someone privately message me about this stupid xvid thing
[07:58] <nvz> gstreamer236: that would be called a driver, a module is a pluggable piece of code that is dynamically loaded.. a driver can be a module, but not necessarily
[07:58]  * yagoo thinks gstreamer236 may be compiling thats already available for ubuntu
[07:59] <yagoo> gstreamer236, you're not 21..
[07:59] <michaela> i tried smplayer and that dident work
[07:59] <gstreamer236> why not..
[07:59] <yagoo> gstreamer236, you sound more like 12.. sorry.. but you should just ask what you're trying to do..
[07:59] <nvz> gstreamer236: what is it that you are trying to accomplish?
[07:59] <gstreamer236> i been using windows all my life.. does that justify it?
[07:59] <nvz> heh
[07:59] <gstreamer236> im an intern. Im suppose to port intel graphic driver for meego/fedora to ubuntu
[08:00] <michaela> xvid dosent work with linux
[08:01] <gstreamer236> i been (unsuccessfully) working on it for a few weeks now..
[08:01] <nvz> gstreamer236: uh.. intel gfx drivers should already be in the kernel, its well supported..
[08:02] <gstreamer236> yea, but the native driver does support hardware accelerated video encoding/decoding
[08:02] <nvz> gstreamer236: what exactly is the problem you are having?
[08:03] <gstreamer236> ._. i wish i knew exactly
[08:03] <nvz> gstreamer236: well you need to give me some idea of where your problem is cause to me compiling a module is straight forward.. obtain kernel source, module source, patch, compile.. simple.. even easier with module-assistant
[08:04] <gstreamer236> i kinda just need some pro to tell me its possible
[08:04] <gstreamer236> before i go into depression
[08:04] <nvz> uh yeah.. compiling a module is very possible and not a very complicated process typically.. if you have a basic understanding of how to compile on linux
[08:05] <nvz> actually if compiling as a pluggable module only the kernel headers are required..
[08:05] <yagoo> nvz, he also said he was an intern.. I'm very shocked because he asks a couple times what a "module" is..
[08:05] <gstreamer236> ._. im sorry.
[08:06] <yagoo> and he says he's been on this a couple of weeks.
[08:06] <yagoo> pff.. he's not 21..
[08:06] <nvz> yagoo: IT interns are generally not very knowledgable.. heh.. hell I work projects all the time with people who aren't certified and have no clue what theyre doing
[08:06] <yagoo> nvz, lol
[08:07] <gstreamer236> a 12 year old intern would be more talented..
[08:07] <nvz> yagoo: imo you're just bored and unable to help due to lack of information and basically just trolling him.. so.. either we get to the bottom of the actual issue or just walk away
[08:07] <alexanderliu> what for
[08:07] <yagoo> nvz, it's a lost case. Just rephrasing this.. no point wasting anyone's time.
[08:08] <nvz> first gotta know what the issue is.. so far all I got is that he's an intern out of his league new to linux, and wants to compile a driver for a graphics card to enable hardware accelerated encoding/decoding and is having some probably entirely trivially simple issue with it
[08:09] <gstreamer236> ^ that
[08:09] <nvz> personally if I were to take the ignorant road, I'd say you're wasting your time and should tell the idiots you work for to get a damn nvidia card if graphics are key.. heh
[08:10] <yagoo> nvz, he won't tell you what he's compiling.. only that the source is from fedora.. and that can be even "tailored" for a fedora-edited kernel sourcetree
[08:10] <nvz> but thats personal opinion, as I like nvidia the best, its been the easiest all around for me in the past.. and my machines with intel graphics while natively supported are well.. crap..
[08:10] <nvz> yagoo: sounds like a mongolian clusterfuck to me
[08:10] <nvz> oh right.. they dont like swear words here..
[08:10] <yagoo> nvz, don't waste your time.. I already asked him the source, and exactly what he wants to compile. I got null answers.
[08:10] <nvz> oh well
[08:11] <gstreamer236> the source is packaged into tar on my laptop, using a software made by intel
[08:11] <nvz> yeah well as I said before, either you productively make him understand how to do things like get help on freenode and such or you ignore it.. anything more is just trolling
[08:12] <yagoo> nvz, i think he's jogging around the prospect of possibility of intertwining distro module codes.. he's jogging around with ideas and not really compiling anything
[08:12] <nvz> gstreamer236: so if intel made this code, why isn't in already in the linux source tree?
[08:12] <yagoo> nvz, are you an idiot? wtf you keep saying i'm trolling?
[08:12] <yagoo> pff
[08:12] <michaela> are you guys wasting all our time in arguing because there are other people that need help
[08:12] <yagoo> nvz, stop trolling yourself dummy
[08:13] <nvz> I see no other questions on my screen
[08:13] <nvz> I just seen someone asking about the linux kernel which I know quite a bit about..
[08:13] <gstreamer236> ubuntu isnt supported
[08:13] <gstreamer236> is that an acceptable answer?
[08:14] <nvz> gstreamer236: that doesn't matter.. the linux kernel is not tied to any distro
[08:14] <CarlFK> CodeZombie: does this look like what you are looking for? debconf-get-selections | grep postgresql => postgresql-common	postgresql-common/obsolete-major	error
[08:15] <CodeZombie> CarlFK: wow, you must be bored :)
[08:15] <CodeZombie> actually, I was looking for something for postfix, and I got it working
[08:15] <CodeZombie> thanks though =)
[08:15] <nvz> gstreamer236: for that matter any distro is not necessarily tied to linux as the kernel specifically either.. Debian for example works on freebsd, hurd, and people are experimenting with win32
[08:15] <CarlFK> CodeZombie: oh right.. that postthing :)
[08:16] <michaela> how can i get xvid to work with ubuntu
[08:17] <nvz> gstreamer236: as for graphics drivers there are generally two parts to them, the kernel side, and the X11 side.. you've only mentioned the kernel which is the far easier part to deal with
[08:17] <nvz> michaela: what do you mean by that?
[08:17] <gmzlj> nvz: you mean the mesa project?
[08:17] <gstreamer236> i think michaela needs xvid codec and a player
[08:17] <nvz> probably but didnt say that
[08:18] <nvz> xvid is vague
[08:18] <nvz> from my experience totem is very annoying in ubuntu..
[08:19] <gmzlj> michaelni: gstreamer ffmpeg plugin
[08:19] <nvz> he left already
[08:19] <gstreamer236> would hardware encode/decode usually be on kernel part or x11?
[08:19] <gstreamer236> owh
[08:19] <gmzlj> gstreamer236: neither
[08:19] <gstreamer236> owh..
[08:19] <gmzlj> userspace library
[08:20] <gmzlj> will an x11 or opengl or whatever backend
[08:20] <gmzlj> on one side
[08:20] <gmzlj> and access to the hardware through mesa on the other
[08:20] <gmzlj> or libvpau or whatever
[08:21] <nvz> gmzlj: you obviously have knowledge where I do not. heh. I only know about compiling the kernel and modules, I dont know much at all about X11 or specifics of graphics framework
[08:21] <gstreamer236> mplayer is suppose to use vaapi for encode/decode
[08:21] <michaela> nuz are you still there
[08:21] <gmzlj> nvz: its a disgusting mess :S
[08:21] <nvz> michaela: yessir, you need to play a video file encoded using xvid?
[08:21] <gmzlj> gstreamer236: yeah, it can
[08:21] <gstreamer236> i been installing different versions but non seems to work
[08:21] <theishi> I am having trouble installing the google talk plugin... I am getting an error about unmet dependencies, even though the listed files are installed. After the failed install I cannot update or install new programs until I uninstalled the supposably failed installation... i pastebined my full error log here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/749045/  Any help would be greatly appreciated
[08:22] <gstreamer236> vainfo doesnt work properly
[08:22] <nvz> theishi: try sudo apt-get -f install
[08:22] <sskniranjan> is there any way to assign keyboard shortcut to any app so that we can launch it directly from the desktop
[08:22] <nvz> theishi: if that don't work then I gotta read your paste.. heh.. just assuming I know what happened there
[08:23] <gmzlj> sskniranjan: yes
[08:23] <theishi> nvz: I tried that last time I had this problem, but let me give it another shot
[08:23] <nvz> sskniranjan: sure is, I'm not terribly familiar with unity, but I know how to do it in classic interface
[08:23] <gmzlj> sskniranjan: look at the keyboard section of system settings
[08:23] <theishi> nvz: i am installing via dpkg though btw
[08:23] <michaela> nuz when i go to this site "http://www.watch-movies.net.in/" with firefox it does not work it dosent play videos
[08:23] <gmzlj> sskniranjan: custom command support is in there
[08:24] <nvz> michaela: ah.. see now thats the specifics I needed.. you're trying to watch something on firefox.
[08:24] <sskniranjan> qmzlj: how to do tha i am a newbie
[08:24] <michaela> yes
[08:25] <gmzlj> sskniranjan: do you know where system settings is?
[08:25] <gmzlj> sskniranjan: click the keyboard icon
[08:25] <michaela> and it says i need a xvid plugin
[08:25] <nvz> michaela: I see that, reproducing your problem here..
[08:25] <gmzlj> michaela: gstreamer ffmpeg
[08:25] <gmzlj> michaela: don't know the exact package name
[08:25] <theishi> nvz: it installed ok, but I am in the same spot as before.. it doesn't work and I cannot install new programs as I have a program with unmet dependencies
[08:26] <michaela> i have gstreamer ffmpg it dident help
[08:26] <d3f4c3d> hey free people ! i cant update my new install of 9.10 for some odd reason - when run "sudo apt-get update" i get "some index files failed to update, they have been ignored blahlba" i cant contact http:/ubuntu.security
[08:26] <gmzlj> theishi: there is a ppa for google talk plugin
[08:27] <theishi> gmzlj: whats a ppa?
[08:27] <auronandace> d3f4c3d: 9.10 is no longer supported
[08:27] <d3f4c3d> maybe somethign to do with reprository list...
[08:27] <gmzlj> theishi: google it, idk
[08:27] <gmzlj> theishi: but there is one
[08:27] <auronandace> !ppa | theishi
[08:27] <d3f4c3d> auronandace, i really need to get it running... please ?
[08:27] <crunchy> Hi, I'm currently having problems with my jabber.ccc.de account. The login fails. Anyone else having such problems?
[08:27] <iceroot> !eol | d3f4c3d
[08:27] <auronandace> d3f4c3d: can't you use a more recent release?
[08:27] <iceroot> d3f4c3d: last link for new repo adresses
[08:28] <d3f4c3d> no, i must stay with 9.10
[08:28] <gstreamer236> you know.. i think my real problem is vaapi not working
[08:28] <d3f4c3d> iceroot, will that repo address work with my 9.10 ?
[08:28] <iceroot> d3f4c3d: yes
[08:28] <d3f4c3d> iceroot, how to use it,
[08:28] <d3f4c3d> thanks
[08:28] <iceroot> d3f4c3d: the 9.10 repos are moved
[08:28] <d3f4c3d> iceroot, where do i inject it ?:)
[08:28] <iceroot> d3f4c3d: and the last link shows the new adresses
[08:28] <iceroot> d3f4c3d: /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:28] <michaela> gmzlj and nuz are you still there
[08:29] <d3f4c3d> okay iceroot i try to play with it brb
[08:29] <gmzlj> michaela: nope
[08:29] <gmzlj> :D
[08:29] <nvz> theishi: dpkg -r google-talkplugin_current_i386.deb
[08:30] <michaela> nuz are you still there
[08:30] <nvz> theishi: that will set your package manager back to straight, but you need to figure out why its not fiding the v4l which should be available in ubuntu perhaps you need to enable more sources
[08:30] <nvz> theishi: search for the package it complains about in your package cache
[08:31] <Benkinooby> hi, i am invoking a script (using kupfer, an application launcher like gnome-do) wich opens an urxvt terminal and starts mplayer within that terminal. If I press ctrl+c to stop the player, the terminal also gets closed. i want: pressing ctrl+c stops the mplayer but leaves the terminal open. any hints/suggestions
[08:31] <nvz> michaela: yes, this site looks sketchy to me.. and I have not resolved the issue.. as gmzlj pointed out typically an ffmpeg plugin would solve this.. doesnt seem to
[08:32] <gmzlj> Benkinooby: patch urxvt
[08:32] <d3f4c3d> iceroot, something happening !!!! U tha maaan !!!!
[08:32] <gmzlj> Benkinooby: that's just how it works
[08:32] <d3f4c3d> gettting my shits weeee
[08:33] <gmzlj> Benkinooby: or write a wrapper script and run that instead
[08:33] <gmzlj> Benkinooby: something like: mplayer $@; exec $SHELL
[08:33] <gmzlj> might do the trick
[08:34] <Jovaro> I updated to 11.10 but now I have some language issues. I use dutch, swedish and english (in that order) and now I have a mix of all three. Most in english, firefox in dutch, dates are in english and some random things are in swedish. What went wrong there?
[08:34] <d3f4c3d> iceroot, d00d if u run "apt-get upgrade" will i mess up my version ?
[08:34] <nvz> michaela: if I had to guess after tryng two browsers with several plugins I'd say this site isn't even legit and trying to trick windows users into both paying for something and downloading so-called plugins that are actually viruses
[08:34] <nvz> michaela: I could however suggest to you many other sites and means to suit your actual needs
[08:34] <Benkinooby> gmzlj, wrapper would be using the script to open a terminal, and let that terminal execute an other script?
[08:34] <Jovaro> Oh I mixed up the order... most is in dutch but firefox and dates are in english
[08:35] <iceroot> d3f4c3d: no
[08:35] <owner_> Ok, I got on here and needed help with file permissions and the guy in here said the only way to fix it was to re-install
[08:35] <gmzlj> Benkinooby: have urxvt launch the wrapper script around mplayer rather than mplayer directly
[08:35] <owner_> so I reinstalled
[08:35] <d3f4c3d> iceroot, what is upgrade for ? update not final ?
[08:35] <owner_> Now I need to chmod the files on my backup drive
[08:35] <owner_> all of them in a directory
[08:36] <owner_> sudo chmod u=rwx /media/39077186-bc90-477a-9309-d217923fd117/JayJardee/owner/* -R
[08:36] <iceroot> d3f4c3d: only installing security-updates
[08:36] <d3f4c3d> iceroot, heres why i need to be carefull - im running dynamips with nic's (10+ bubuntu broke their 802.1q features) and i need that
[08:36] <gmzlj> Benkinooby: something like this would do the trick: http://codepad.org/m48KBCi7
[08:36] <owner_> But it's not changing the files in the directory
[08:36] <d3f4c3d> oh nice
[08:36] <d3f4c3d> iceroot, thanks
[08:36] <maum> hello I would like to install ffmpeg but the message said that  Depends: libavcodec53 but it is not going to be installed
[08:36] <maum>  Depends: libavdevice53 but it is not going to be installed
[08:36] <maum>  Depends: libavfilter2 but it is not going to be installed
[08:36] <maum>  Depends: libavformat53 but it is not going to be installed .... how can I install this?
[08:36] <FloodBot1> maum: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:36] <iceroot> d3f4c3d: also see "man apt-get" and read "upgrade" and "dist-upgrade"
[08:37] <owner_> how do I chmod all the files in a directory and all sub directories
[08:37] <d3f4c3d> ye its tought on the system that has no mans installed :D
[08:37] <michaela> nuz id like that
[08:37] <d3f4c3d> i think recursive with folder right ?
[08:37] <rodhash> owner_, chmod -R (recursive)
[08:37] <owner_> rodhash i tried that
[08:38] <kanhiya> hello
[08:38] <maum> http://paste.ubuntu.com/749057/
[08:38] <rodhash> what happened?
[08:38] <kanhiya> everyone
[08:38] <maum> hello
[08:38] <nvz> michaela: /msg ?
[08:38] <owner_> sudo chmod u=rwx /home/owner/* -R rodhash
[08:38] <owner_> I also tried chmod -R u=rwx /bla/bla*
[08:38] <Benkinooby> gmzlj, i do not understand that script... what's that $@ ?
[08:39] <owner_> and chmod u=rwx -R /bla/bla*
[08:39] <kanhiya> anybody have faced problem in ubuntu 11.10 in blueooth
[08:39] <kanhiya> and solved it
[08:39] <maum> can someone help me?
[08:39] <kanhiya> i got permisssion denied error 13 while connecting any device
[08:39] <maum> http://paste.ubuntu.com/749057/
[08:39] <z3r0c007> any problem maum
[08:40] <maum> z3r0c007: http://paste.ubuntu.com/749057/
[08:40] <rodhash> owner_, Ok, but what was the error?
[08:40] <owner_> rodhash the only error is that it doesn't change the permissions of the files
[08:41] <sveinse> Hi. Are there protobuf 2.3.* available for oneiric anywhere (backport, PPA, etc.)?
[08:41] <maum> I think synaptic server is not good or.. something trouble..
[08:41] <z3r0c007> maum: one  moment i'll check
[08:41] <kanhiya> maum: Use ubuntu software center & install ffmpeg from there
[08:41] <maum> kanhiya: I couldn't by it.
[08:41] <kanhiya> maum: it will auto resolve dependenices
[08:42] <Jovaro> I updated to 11.10 but now I have some language issues. I use dutch, swedish and english (in that order) and now I have a mix of all three. Most in dutch, firefox in english, dates are in english and some random things are in swedish. What went wrong there?
[08:42] <maum> no it doesn't
[08:42] <Benkinooby> gmzlj, also, your script starts the mplayer in the background, so i can not control it (adjusting volume and stuff)
[08:42] <maum> kanhiya: I am using ubuntu 11.04
[08:42] <K-Rich> okay boys and girls, i'm off to watch Paranormal Activity 3 and cuddle with my dog.
[08:42] <maum> kanhiya: ubuntu software center doesn't fix the dependencies...
[08:43] <Benkinooby> gmzlj, thank you for your input and time
[08:43] <gmzlj> Benkinooby: it shouldn't. but i never verified it worked either
[08:43] <gmzlj> its just an idea
[08:43] <Benkinooby> gmzlj, never mind... but could you explain me the $@ ?
[08:43] <gstreamer236> here is what i got with vainfo
[08:43] <gstreamer236> http://paste.ubuntu.com/749058/
[08:43] <gmzlj> Benkinooby: all of ARGV
[08:43] <kanhiya> maum: go to the recovery option while booting  &  than try from there, to update software
[08:44] <kanhiya> maum: this one worked for me sometimes
[08:44] <Benkinooby> gmzlj, ah, so i would have to enter what i want to give to mplayer as options?
[08:44] <gmzlj> yeah
[08:44] <gmzlj> i can't remember if it needs to be quoted or not
[08:44] <gmzlj> as i said, a starting place
[08:44] <dsirijus> hey, anyone having issues with trackpoint or trackstyk?
[08:45] <Benkinooby> gmzlj, thought so... was just testing it. no it works without quotes
[08:45] <maum> kanhiya: i don't know how and I am curious if I can fix this from recovery option
[08:45] <dsirijus> it kind locks for a second every few seconds if i move it too fast
[08:46] <dsirijus> and, if i see it correctly, it's recognized as ps2 mouse
[08:46] <kanhiya> back to my question, anybody solved bluetooth problem in ubuntu 11.10, unable to connect to device after successful setup of device & is there any way to install older package of bluetooth in Ubuntu 11.10
[08:47] <kanhiya> maum: tell me if there is any message that synaptic packages are broken
[08:48] <kanhiya> maum: also required repositry  is there in software sources
[08:48] <maum> kanhya : could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade
[08:49] <KamZou> Hello, would like to know which user is running the cron.daily crontab please ?
[08:49] <maum> the following packages have unresolvavle dependencies.
[08:49] <kanhiya> most of time, Synaptic mark required changes automatically
[08:49] <nvz> dsirijus: if it were me, I'd examine the X log
[08:49] <maum> make sure that all required repositories are added and enabled in the preferences
[08:49] <maum> ffmpeg:
[08:49] <nvz> dsirijus: on a side note, helps to consolidate your question to one line cause its hard to get at what you're asking when the info spans 3 lines between conversation
[08:49] <maum> depends: libavcodec53 but it is not going to be installed
[08:50] <maum> depends: libavdevice53, libavfilter2, libavformat53 but it is not going to be installed
[08:50] <maum> ...
[08:50] <kanhiya> show me a screenshot of your software sources
[08:50] <maum> ok
[08:50] <kanhiya> maum: Use imagebin
[08:51] <maum> ??
[08:51] <nvz> heh
[08:51] <nvz> maum: paste.debian.net select file to upload /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:51] <nvz> same thing, different approach
[08:51] <kanhiya> nvz :)
[08:52] <e01> hello, i am upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10 successful but now i had a little problem, qt apps and in my case skype looks ugly, in 11.04 skype follows the look of theme, now it look native qt app and some tooltips and text are unreadable because colors seems similar
[08:52] <e01> is there solution of this problem or it's just in my machine
[08:52] <kanhiya> e01: Just roll back again :(
[08:52] <somsip> e01: try Skype, Options, General, Choose Style
[08:53] <kanhiya> e01: many issues with ubuntu 11.10 except looks,
[08:53] <kanhiya> somsip: This one can fix
[08:53] <nvz> yeah I recommend to everyone I offer support to, stay away from 11.10 wait it out for next release.. otherwise I no longer offer support. heh
[08:54] <e01> somsip, it doesn't help, i try and with qtconfig but result is the same ;(
[08:54] <nvz> I spent about 2hrs testing 11.10 and ran into more issues than I seen in the last 5 years on debian or ubuntu
[08:54] <somsip> e01: ok - worth a shot
[08:54] <e01> nvz, me too, i think i back to 11.04
[08:55] <kanhiya> nvz: Performance matters not only looks, right or wrong
[08:55] <SpyderZ> Hey guys, just did an install on a old laptop and the VGA extended monitor that I have connected isn't getting recognized in the Display Settings. Any ideas on how to get this working?
[08:55] <d3f4c3d> where can i check 802.1q support on nic ? or check loaded modules in buntu ?
[08:55] <nvz> personally I'm still fairly new to ubuntu but this 6mo time based release schedule seems insane to me. There is no way you can integrate major version changes of huge desktop environments and such on a time frame.. it has to be thoroughly tested and debugged and not released until ready
[08:56] <nvz> I blame all the issues I observed on the Gnome 3 migration that was nowhere near ready to be rolled out as something anyone could even dream to be remotely stable
[08:57] <kanhiya> nvz: they should release stable versions, whether it take 1 year , instead of 6 month
[08:57] <e01> ubuntu guys make mistake while go on gnome3 in 11.10, i think this had to be done in 12.04
[08:57] <elky> nvz, while i understand you're frustrated, the people here aren't the ones who make the decisions you're kvetching about, and will not feel much like helping if they are going to be listening to a stream of complaints.
[08:57] <kanhiya> i think Mandriva has taken this approach
[08:57] <gmzlj> nvz: oh gnome 3 is stable on other distors
[08:57] <nvz> kanhiya: yeah well one could argue thats what debian does, this is ubuntu.. and I'd have to agree even as a long time (12 year) debian user
[08:57] <gmzlj> nvz: ubuntu is at fault with gnome 3
[08:57] <gmzlj> they patch things too much for unity
[08:58] <gmzlj> ubuntu isn't a distro i'd recommend for an excellent gnome 3 experience
[08:58] <nvz> gmzlj: so? the issue is not gnome 3, its that with a package system like debian/ubuntu uses you cannot integrate a MAJOR VERSION of a software suite that is over 500 packages on a time frame at all much less a 6mo timeframe..
[08:58] <tolland> what text editors support multipl rows of tabs, preferably at the bottom of the edit window?
[08:59] <nvz> gmzlj: too many things changed, not enough time to even FIND all the bugs much less fix them
[08:59] <gmzlj> nvz: how did other distros did a better job?
[08:59] <gmzlj> *do
[08:59] <nvz> gmzlj: Idk cause I only use debian and ubuntu and so far debian hasn't made a release with it
[08:59] <northwoods> Is there a way to create an intallation disk from already installed ubuntu 11.10
[09:00] <gmzlj> nvz: its in testing or unstable or both, can't remember
[09:00] <nvz> gmzlj: and some distros are commercial and can pay for rigorous testing.. this distro I know from personal experience is hurt because of a need to register to file bugs.. I didnt file any of the bugs I found cause it was too much time for me to get into the process.
[09:01] <northwoods> nvz, ?
[09:01] <gmzlj> nvz: seriously though, not to bash unity here, but its unity that introduces bugs into gnome here. if it was just gnome 3, it would be better
[09:01] <nvz> granted that does probably filter out a lot of b.s. on your BTS
[09:01] <northwoods> Is there a way to create an intallation disk from already installed ubuntu 11.10
[09:01] <gmzlj> nvz: im talking fedora, debian, and arch
[09:01] <nvz> gmzlj: testing isn't a release.. its testing.. heh
[09:01] <kanhiya> I faced that there is no option to create new document in right click, bluetooth not working on any pc that i have tried, no way to navigate windows from panel, how to add applet like force quit to panel & much more , i have faced in ubuntu 11.10
[09:02] <gmzlj> nvz: right, but its not commercial either
[09:02] <nvz> gmzlj: thats my issue here.. people think testing in debian and know to expect problems.. ubuntu on the other hand has the upgrade manager flashing in people who have no clue's face upgrade to 11.10 making them think thats safe.. heh
[09:03] <jaccoh> any1 running ubuntu on their mac (mini)?
[09:03] <nvz> gmzlj: so my issue isn't just with the time based release schedule but with the release process entirely.. people who really dont know crap use ubuntu, and the distro pushes new releases hard on people who dont realize its not as well tested and debugged as a stable debian release
[09:03] <jaccoh> i had to reinstall ubuntu and i cant get sound working.. never was an issues on the previous install
[09:03] <gmzlj> nvz: ah politics :S
[09:03] <somsip> nvz, gmzlj could this go to #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[09:03] <nvz> gmzlj: you or I know better, but the majority of users don't
[09:03] <gmzlj> somsip: we're about done anyways, sorry
[09:04] <gmzlj> nvz: yeah
[09:04] <e01> ubuntu 11.10 is beta for 12.04 :D
[09:04] <froes>  hi guys. i am having some trouble on X11 forwarding  on openssh. has anyone been able to make it work with lxde for example ? is that possible ?
[09:04] <froes> logout
[09:04] <gmzlj> froes: ssh X11 forwarding doesn't forward the desktop
[09:04] <gmzlj> just applications
[09:04] <gmzlj> it won't forward lxde
[09:05] <mmv> froes: i've done it, with xnest
[09:05] <Benkinooby> froes, it only forwards windows of applications
[09:05] <gmzlj> froes: you might be looking for x11vnc if you want to forward lxde across the network
[09:05] <nvz> froes: yeah you may want to try a different approach for what you're trying to do.. like ssh tunneling a VNC or RDP or something
[09:05] <Benkinooby> froes, if you start a graphical application via X forwarded ssh, you'll see the new window#
[09:06] <kanhiya> community, tell me is there any way to revert to bluetooth  packages of ubuntu 11.04 in ubuntu 11.10
[09:07] <gmzlj> kanhiya: manually download them and install them
[09:07] <nvz> kanhiya: you could save yourself a headache and just reinstall 11.04 and not touch shiny new software until you know it works.. because if this is the only problem you've seen, I am fairly certain it wont be the last
[09:07] <froes> gmzlj, x11vnc would forward xdm+lxde for example ?
[09:07] <mmv> kanhiya: not in any way that's supported
[09:07] <Snicksie> jaccoh, you might want to edit your sound settings with 'alsamixer' in the terminal... my macbook has ubuntu with working sound on it :)
[09:07] <gmzlj> froes: your whole x11 session, no matter what de/wm
[09:08] <gmzlj> froes: so yes
[09:08] <kanhiya> gmzlj: from where?
[09:08] <nvz> froes: for the display manager to be forwarded you may want something like XDCMP
[09:08] <kanhiya> gmzlj: for bluetooth
[09:08] <SpyderZ> Looking at my graphics adapter and it says Unknown…anyways to find a driver for my system that will allow my second extended display to work?
[09:08] <gstreamer236> i have  vaapi and mplayer installed. mplayer -vo doesnt list vaapi as an option.
[09:09] <nvz> SpyderZ: how is this 2nd display attached? both displays on the same card?
[09:09] <gmzlj> kanhiya: the 11.04 repos. but you're probably looking for a world of pain should there happen to be version conflicts between dependancies
[09:09] <SpyderZ> nvz: It's a laptop with a VGA LCD Monitor hooked up.
[09:09] <rog> hi folks, i'm trying to lower the large power usage of my thinkpad x220 since upgrading to 11.10, and i've found this possible fix: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1859781&page=2
[09:09] <nvz> SpyderZ: oh, ok.. well you want to toy with xrandr or something similar then
[09:09] <rog> my question is: how do i change the kernel boot parameters? i've looked at /etc/default/grub but it's not clear to me that this is the right place.
[09:10] <mmv> rog: hmm, been thinking of buying one of those, how noisy are the fans? i5?
[09:10] <nvz> SpyderZ: generally something like xrandr --output VGA -auto or something.. I forget right now.. its 4am here.. heh see the manpage
[09:10] <rog> mmv: i5, yes. very quiet fan
[09:10] <mmv> rog: any bad comments?
[09:10] <rog> mmv: on natty i was getting 8h or more on battery
[09:10] <kanhiya> gmzlj: I think i should revert back to ubuntu 11.04
[09:11] <gmzlj> gstreamer236: vdpau
[09:11] <rog> mmv: on oneiric i'm only getting 2-3h on battery :-(
[09:11] <SpyderZ> nvz: I'm all new to Ubuntu, it's day 1 for me. I'll Google it I guess.
[09:11] <kanhiya> gmzlj: Will same problem appear in Kubuntu 11.10 also :)
[09:11] <rog> mmv: my wife complains that the keyboard light dazzles her :-)
[09:11] <gmzlj> kanhiya: try finding a ppa for bluetooth first
[09:11] <gmzlj> kanhiya: something newer might fix your problems
[09:11] <rog> mmv: otherwise it's great
[09:12] <nvz> SpyderZ: ah, well typically you can enable it from the monitor prefs gui
[09:12] <mmv> rog: presumably one can turn that light off?
[09:12] <rog> mmv: oh yes, when i'm using it in my lap, the touchpad curves around a little bit and sometimes my clothes will activate it
[09:12] <kanhiya> gmzlj: Thanks
[09:12] <rog> mmv: yeah. it's mostly off
[09:12] <rog> mmv: but when it's on, it could be a little more directional
[09:13] <rog> mmv: it's a nice system, and i *was* joyous about the battery life.
[09:13] <rog> mmv: hence my quest to regain that!
[09:13] <gstreamer236> gmzlj, isnt vdpau for nvidia?
[09:13] <rog> so, does anyone know how to change kernel boot params?
[09:13] <gmzlj> gstreamer236: thats all mplayer supports irrc
[09:14] <nvz> rog: in /etc/default/grub
[09:14] <maum> kanhiya: http://ompldr.org/vYmcxNA
[09:14] <gmzlj> gstreamer236: there's a mplayer-vaapi project
[09:14] <nvz> rog: first you change the kernel params in there then run update-grub like the file says
[09:14] <gmzlj> gstreamer236: i assume its a matter of time before it gets merged in
[09:15] <rog> nvz: so if i add this line to /etc/default/grub, it should work?: i915.i915_enable_rc6=1
[09:15] <rog> i.e. each env var in that file is a kernel param?
[09:15] <rog> or is there a specific env var for kernel params?
[09:15] <nvz> rog: no.. you add kernel params to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[09:16] <nvz> rog: you'd put that in the quotes with the quiet splash, then run update-grub
[09:16] <rog> like this? GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash 'i915.i915_enable_rc6=1'"
[09:16] <rog> or double quotes?
[09:17] <nvz> rog: assuming that is a valid kernel parameter.. I'd take out the single quotes though it probably wont like that
[09:17] <rog> nvz: ah, i misunderstood what you meant by "in quotes"
[09:18] <nvz> rog: heh, no worries.. inside the double quotes is the string to append to the linux command line by default its a space separated list of arguments
[09:19] <nvz> this ticking sound through my speakers is enough to drive me insane.. heh
[09:19] <rog> nvz: i bet that might even be documented somewhere. all the web pages assume you know this stuff, but it wasn't obvious to me!
[09:19] <nvz> rog: wasn't to me either.. but thats because I been using linux for 12 years or so, and the new grub does things VERY differently
[09:20] <nvz> rog: I'm starting to get used to the way programs split up configuration now though..
[09:21] <nvz> rog: I had the same issue migrating from apache 1.3 to apache 2 ... everone is migrating towards partial config files that are strewn out across the system.. heh
[09:21] <Anomie211> What is the default path for gedit in Ubuntu 11.10? Trying to make filezilla use it as it's default editor but I need to specify the file path
[09:21] <rog> nvz: i find it kinda funny that the boot time system is a fully blown shell script... or is that shell script just generating a config file to be used at boot time?
[09:22] <deej1976> Anomie211: which gedit
[09:22] <nvz> rog: are you referring to /etc/default/grub?
[09:22] <geirha> Anomie211: You should just be able to type in gedit, without a path.
[09:22] <rog> nvz: yeah
[09:22] <nvz> rog: thats read by update-grub, at the point which grub actually uses that info it's not even aware the filesystem that file resides on even exists
[09:23] <rog> nvz: ah, ok, i wondered how that worked
[09:23] <nvz> rog: yeah if you don't update-grub then nothing changes
[09:24] <Anomie211> geirha: Type it in where? I'm using the 'Select default editor' tool in Filezilla, no where to type.
[09:24] <deej1976> /usr/bin/gedit
[09:24] <Anomie211> deej1976: I think thats it, ta
[09:25] <deej1976> Anomie211: If you need to find a path to a command use "which" i.e. which gedit
[09:25] <geirha> Anomie211: Ah ok. I've never used Filezilla, but usually there's a box where you can just type in the command, next to the file selection.
[09:25] <rog> nvz: thanks for the info. even if i had found that option in the documentation (it is there) i'd probably have used GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX rather than GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[09:25] <rog> which would be wrong
[09:25] <Anomie211> deej1976: ah, handy. Thanks :)
[09:26] <maum> I have some problem with installing ffmpeg . anyone can recognize this /??/ http://ompldr.org/vYmcxNA
[09:26] <geirha> Anomie211: Or the more portable alternative to which; type. E.g.  type gedit
[09:26] <nvz> rog: well it annoys me any time things change that I already knew how to do.. but this way is a lot better once you get used to it.. before you had one big config file and had to change command lines for each kernel basically
[09:27] <deej1976> geirha: That comes back "type: Command not found."
[09:27] <maum> please help me
[09:27] <rog> nvz: i'm a bit surprised there aren't some idiots' guides easily findable out there on the web. (i did look).
[09:27] <Jovaro> I updated to 11.10 but now I have some language issues. I use dutch, swedish and english (in that order) and now I have a mix of all three. Most in dutch, firefox in english, dates are in english and some random things are in swedish. What went wrong there?
[09:27] <deej1976> maum: Have you enabled any other repo?
[09:27] <deej1976> !grub2
[09:28] <nvz> rog: the problem with the old way of configuring things was the times moving beyond slackware style config everything by hand, to automagic auto-configuration.. which clashes with manual config.. so now the automagic stuff does what it does, and when you want to manually hack you make smaller config files that are read in
[09:28] <geirha> deej1976: Ah, well it's a builtin in bourne compatible shells.
[09:28] <luca_bi> Dear friends could explain to me the role of the keyword $this
[09:28] <luca_bi> ?
[09:28] <deej1976> geirha: That explains it, default shell here tcsh
[09:29] <maum> deej1976: what do you mean?
[09:29] <deej1976> maum: Have you enable/install any other repository/ppa's
[09:29] <maum> deej1976: yes but I failed.. there is a lot more dependencies...
[09:30] <maum> deej1976: I don't know how to install ffmpeg on ubuntu 11.04
[09:30] <nvz> rog: a simple example in deb based distros is how there is the /etc/apt/sources.list for your package sources, then there is the sources.list.d/ directory where individual source files can be appended. Things like getdeb and playdeb make use of this, we managed before it worked that way, but it was far more complicated.. now official auto type stuff goes in the config and manual 3rd party stuff can just drop their own configs in the *.d/ dir
[09:30] <theadmin> maum: sudo apt-get install ffmpeg...
[09:30] <maum> theadmin: I did but the error occured
[09:31] <maum> theadmin: like this http://ompldr.org/vYmcxNA
[09:31] <rog> nvz: yeah, that makes sense. not obvious when coming to it from scratch though - quite a few layers of abstraction going on.
[09:31] <theadmin> maum: Odd... Are you sure you didn't modify the repositories?
[09:32] <A_J> Will a PCIE 2.1 gfx card work in a PCIe 3.0 motherboard?
[09:32] <maum> theadmin: yes
[09:32] <nvz> A_J: thats more of a question for ##hardware
[09:32]  * A_J goes there
[09:33] <maum> theadmin: how can I fix this?
[09:33] <stimpie> When I boot my laptop (asus n53sv) with an external monitor attached  I get some console lines at the external monitor but never reach lightdm. Any one knows what this could be?
[09:33] <nvz> A_J: technically I should know that but I can't say with certainty cause I dont work on many new systems and I got certified many years ago.. heh
[09:34] <deej1976> maum: "sudo apt-get install ffmpeg | pastebinit"
[09:34] <SpyderZ> nvz: What do I do when Xandr is not a found command?
[09:35] <nvz> SpyderZ: its xrandr and just typing that should show you what displays you have
[09:35] <A_J> ty nvz
[09:35] <maum> deej1976: I cannot install astebinit
[09:35] <nvz> SpyderZ: typically the vga output is called VGA and can be enabled by saying xrandr --output VGA --auto
[09:36] <SpyderZ> nvz: Thanks!
[09:36] <A[D]minS> Morning , Quick question ... How i can kill only this session  ----> tcp        0      0 10.229.180.41:36692     64.4.61.31:1863         CLOSE_WAIT  2779/wish8.5
[09:36] <nvz> SpyderZ: I'm at a loss for how to do that graphically due to ubuntu's crappy unity interface I have little interest in learning to use and it being so much different than plain gnome.. heh.. but the command line tricks are the same on any distro.. ;)
[09:36] <mmv> A[D]minS: you could kill 2779
[09:37] <deej1976> maum: what does "sudo apt-get install -f" do?
[09:38] <SpyderZ> nvz: I tried the command and it says it could not find the VGA and is ignoring it.
[09:38] <SpyderZ> nvz: I guess I'm at the dead end of this machine.
[09:38] <nvz> A[D]minS: yeah I'd 2nd the killing the process because that connection has already been asked to close and is in a wait state.. so the app is probably misbehaving
[09:38] <cellardoor> After my upgrade to 11.10 my speakers just emit a constant whine. Known issue?
[09:38] <nvz> SpyderZ: well thats why I said run xrandr first with no arguments, to see what the displays are called, on my netbook for example its VGA1 for some reason
[09:39] <SpyderZ> ok
[09:39] <maum> deej1976: ok
[09:39] <nvz> SpyderZ: typically one is called LVDS and one VGA on a notebook.. but it varies
[09:39] <maum> deej1976: sudo apt-get install -f didn't work
[09:40] <maum> the message said
[09:40] <A[D]minS> mmv: we don't want to kill the application , yes the application misbehaving and do weird stuff, however it could be a workaround to kill these sessions , any idea?
[09:40] <maum> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:40] <maum> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:40] <SpyderZ> nvz: Thanks, I think this one is coming down to a driver issue, that's why the VGA is not showing up at all in the list.
[09:40] <deej1976> maum: Another process has the package database open.
[09:40] <A[D]minS> P.S i'm not talking about wish8.5   , it was just an example
[09:40] <nvz> SpyderZ: well also some notebooks are strange about that and have a fn key to enable it, sometimes it is easiest to just boot with the display connected and have it enabled that way
[09:41] <mmv> A[D]minS: nah,
[09:41] <nvz> SpyderZ: there may also be an issue with the driver though.. perhaps you could get further help if you check lspci to figure out what the graphics adapter is, and find out which driver X is using
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> maum: are updates running or do you have software centre open?
[09:42] <SpyderZ> nvz: The main LCD screen is cracked so I disabled it and left the CRT only option on. Ubuntu boots and it displays on the external monitor at first, but then turns off as it hits the login screen.
[09:42] <maum> I am checking now
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | maum if not then use the following
[09:43] <maum> E: Broken packages
[09:43] <maum> http://paste.ubuntu.com/749092/
[09:43] <llutz> !info cutter  | A[D]minS
[09:44] <A[D]minS> thx llutz
[09:44] <A[D]minS> i'll check it
[09:44] <nvz> SpyderZ: ah.. well that significantly changes things.. heh. I'm no X guru by any means.. but I think if you better explain the problem again using those details someone else might be of better assitance. I personally need to run across the street to the store.. its going on 5am, been up all night and need a lil something.. heh
[09:44] <nvz> SpyderZ: I could figure it out, but would have to look up some things after I get back.. which will only be a few min
[09:44] <SpyderZ> nvz: Thanks for the help, much appreciated.
[09:45] <SpyderZ> I'll try again tomorrow when I'm more awake.
[09:45] <SpyderZ> Have a good one!
[09:45] <maum> deej1976, ActionParsnip ubottu : I did sudo apt-get install ffmpeg | pastebinit and terminal said E: Broken packages
[09:45] <maum> http://paste.ubuntu.com/749092/
[09:47] <ranjan> Hi all, which is the best development platform for mapreduce. is it windows or linux?
[09:48] <theadmin> ranjan: Linux is the best development platform for anything that *can* be developed on Linux
[09:48] <canterer> mapreduce?
[09:48] <canterer> what?
[09:50] <deej1976> maum: It's possible that you have a conflict with another ppa that you've added. Also which Ubuntu version are you running?
[09:50] <maum> deej1976: I am using ubuntu 11.04 version
[09:50] <maum> ppa?
[09:51] <deej1976> !ppa
[09:51] <ranjan> theadmin, great ! :)
[09:51] <maum> deej1976: what should I do?
[09:52] <ranjan> theadmin, we are going to setup a mapreduce lab, and planning to use ubuntu as the OS
[09:53] <ranjan> theadmin, how to push policies like the windows group policy in ubuntu.?
[09:54] <theadmin> ranjan: Sorry, I'm not too into Windows, what on earth is that?
[09:55] <deej1976> maum: load Synaptic Package Manager, Settings, Repositories, Other Software
[09:55] <ranjan> theadmin, i  mean centrally manage all the desktops with same configurations. imposing certian restrictions, pushing our companies wallpapers every time when it changes etc
[09:55] <deej1976> maum: If you can capture the list and post online
[09:55] <theadmin> ranjan: Hm, well... cron for the last one, and just set the general configuration for one user and then copy it to /etc/skel for the first one.
[09:56] <ranjan> theadmin, have you heard about Puppet, CFEngine, Chef etc?
[09:56] <stimpie> ranjan, checkout landscape
[09:56] <ranjan> stimpie, is landscape opensource?
[09:56] <stimpie> ranjan, no
[09:57] <theadmin> ranjan: I heard about Chef allright, but not those other 2, but I haven't used any of those.
[09:57] <ranjan> theadmin, ok
[09:57] <ranjan> stimpie, is there any other things like landscape which if opensource?
[09:57] <stimpie> ranjan, CFEngine is opensource but takes more time to setup
[09:58] <maum> deej1976: http://ompldr.org/vYmcxcg
[09:59] <deej1976> maum: Try unticking debs.astraw.com ..., www.debian-multimedia.org
[09:59] <maum> deej1976: how can I do?
[10:00] <rog> for the record, that fix doesn't seem to have improved my power consumption
[10:00] <deej1976> maum: with a mounse and clikcing the tick next to debs.astraw.com, www.debian-multimedia.org
[10:01] <deej1976> maum: That should untick, disable those repositories
[10:01] <poonam> hi all
[10:01] <i3lue> with 160gb to work with what is a good partition setup on seperate root swap and home partitions
[10:01] <deej1976> maum: Then in a terminal run "sudo apt-get update ; apt-get install ffmpeg"
[10:01] <poonam> I am using ubuntu 9.10 ie karmic
[10:01] <Gentoo64> i3lue: i cant say
[10:01] <deej1976> maum: Then in a terminal run "sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install ffmpeg"
[10:02] <poonam> I am using ubuntu 9.10 ie karmic, but not able to install packages, can any one help
[10:02] <Gentoo64> i3lue: some poeple /home is gigabytes, mines 52MB
[10:02] <poonam> Ign http://in.archive.ubuntu.com karmic-updates Release                                                                                                                 Err http://security.ubuntu.com karmic-security/main Packages                                                                                                              404  Not Found
[10:03] <poonam> Ign http://in.archive.ubuntu.com karmic-updates Releas  Err http://security.ubuntu.com karmic-security/main Packages 404  Not Found
[10:03] <poonam> deej1976: can u plz help me
[10:04] <poonam> deej1976: I am using ubuntu 9.10 ie karmic, but not able to install packages
[10:04] <poonam> Ign http://in.archive.ubuntu.com karmic-updates Releas  Err http://security.ubuntu.com karmic-security/main Packages 404  Not Found
[10:04] <pangolin> !eolupgrade | poonam
[10:04] <pangolin> !eol | poonam
[10:04] <deej1976> !pastebin |pangolin:
[10:04] <cuthbert> hi guys
[10:05] <pangolin> deej1976: ?
[10:05] <cuthbert> sorrry am using ubuntu
[10:05] <pangolin> oh, hehe I see
[10:05] <maum> deej1976: http://paste.ubuntu.com/749104/
[10:05] <poonam> pangolin: thanks
[10:05] <deej1976> pangolin: Sorry was for poonam, and the multiline paste
[10:05] <cuthbert> am looking for platform that i will be able to run java programs
[10:06] <deej1976> maum: It's installed
[10:06] <maum> deej1976: thank you very much
[10:07] <cuthbert> am looking for platform that i will be able to run java programs
[10:07] <maum> deej1976: how could you recognize unnessary repository
[10:07] <poonam> ubottu: thanks
[10:08] <atlasair> how can i make aliases for the terminal? The stuff i've found on google isn't working..
[10:09] <deej1976> maum: dapper is an old release of ubuntu. debian-mm sid is old debian, probably should be there, if that hadn't worked I would have for for the ppa ones.
[10:10] <deej1976> shouldn't*#
[10:10] <maum> deej1976: how can I use ppa?
[10:10] <deej1976> !launchpad
[10:11] <maum> deej1976: just download the package from the site?
[10:11] <antnash> Hi guys. Where can I check why my pc just crashed?
[10:12] <stimpie> antnash, depends on the type of crash but /var/log/syslog or /var/log/Xorg.0.log might tell you something
[10:12] <deej1976> maum: Nope, read how to add the ppa, each package on launchpad has a repository
[10:12] <cuthbert> am looking for platform that i will be able to run java programs
[10:12] <twocarlo> im trying to install nvidia driver, as i install the driver it ask me to stop x server, how to stop  x server by the way?
[10:13] <cuthbert> am looking for platform that i will be able to run java programs
[10:13] <stimpie> antnash, use the logviewer
[10:13] <antnash> cheers stimpie. It had been up for about 3 minutes, and I was just doing a git pull then *beep!* and it was resettings.
[10:13] <maum> deej1976: I see
[10:13] <antnash> resetting
[10:13] <ne2k> I have moved to using a USB sound card as my main sound device, rather than the onboard one. however, whenever I hibernate the computer and reawaken it, it switches the output back to the internal one and mutes the USB one. how can I make the USB one get reactivated automatically when the computer wakes up?
[10:13] <antnash> it's just done it again
[10:13] <antnash> it beeped at me and then reset
[10:13] <stimpie> cuthbert, that will be almost anything. try a nokia 3310
[10:13] <ne2k> natty, btw
[10:14] <stevecam> is the ubuntu experience becoming more buggy over the last 2 years
[10:14] <RaTTuS|BIG> no
[10:14] <mmv> stevecam: it started off pretty buggy...
[10:15] <RaTTuS|BIG> LTS is fine
[10:15] <reisi> it'd seem that postinst configure script for logcheck 1.3.7ubuntu2 is broken, "No such file or directory" on ubuntu server 10.04; any ideas on how to override this? happened during upgrade and cant really think of any reason why it should be doing anything
[10:15] <stimpie> stevecam,  I dont think buggy is the right word but their have been some major gui changes which caused missing features
[10:15] <RaTTuS|BIG> OSMONDE - you should not log onto irc as root really
[10:15] <cuthbert> stimpie , sorry am now using computer  and running ubuntu 11.10 so am looking for an application so that  i can write java programss
[10:16] <ne2k> cuthbert: gedit?
[10:16] <deej1976> !info eclipse
[10:16] <nvz> cuthbert: eclipse as I understand is popular
[10:16] <OSMONDE> HOW DID I MANAGE THAT?
[10:16] <OSMONDE> oops caps
[10:16] <stimpie> stimpie, aha thats something different, try eclipse, netbeans or intellij idea
[10:16] <stevecam> earlier, I was able to use rhythmbox and have very little or none problems,now there is banshee, which seems to hang more often and there is unity that seems to hang as well, chosen over gnomes new shell
[10:17] <nvz> personally I gave up on Java after reading Sam's Learn Java 2 in 24 one hour lessons. learned both that I never wanna program java and that sams books are horrible.. heh
[10:17] <nvz> stevecam: did you upgrade to a new release?
[10:17] <stevecam> this current install is a fresh install
[10:17] <ne2k> nvz: java has its place, but it's not the best language around
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> stevecam: install rhythmnbox if you like it....
[10:18] <stevecam> i have upgraded in the past but i don't like the experience
[10:18] <ne2k> nvz: portability is the biggest thing going for it
[10:18] <nvz> ne2k: oh I recognise its portability and usefulness, I just despise it.. heh
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> nvz: it has good memory clean up too :)
[10:19] <nvz> stevecam: so in other words you've made no changes to the installed packages?
[10:20] <stevecam> ActionParsnip, my point is, i had less problems using my ubuntu system as is earlier, and now im finding after each new release its becoming more unusable
[10:20] <nvz> stevecam: 11.10 is horrible, thats not news
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> stevecam: do you mean you don't like unity?
[10:20] <nvz> stevecam: nobody said you had to upgrade
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> nvz: I think you mean unity, you can use KDE in 11.10 and it runs the same as 11.04
[10:20] <stevecam> i am just giving feedback, should i stop?
[10:21] <nvz> ActionParsnip: no I mean 11.10.. heh.. first thing I did was install gnome-panel and everything to get gnome on it, and it was all badly broken
[10:21] <nvz> ActionParsnip: and clearly this user, like myself prefers GTK to QT
[10:21] <ne2k> nvz: at least it doesn't support the vile "feature" that is multiple inheritance
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> nvz: I use lxde, not had an issue
[10:22] <deej1976> !notunity | nvz:
[10:22] <osmonde> ok so the other day i used clonezilla for the first time---made an image/wiped the partition,reformatted and restored my os and stuff from the image..All in an attempt to "wipe freespace" after having used photo wreck and finding sensitive data easily recoverd...is there an easier way?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> stevecam: if you dislike Unity with Gnome, there are other desktops you can use and your Gnome apps will run just fine, or you can use Gnome shell too
[10:22] <nvz> ne2k: heh.. I'm not much of a programmer.. I like simple programming like python, bash..etc
[10:22] <nvz> deej1976: I'm aware of that, doesnt change the fact that its horrible broken
[10:23] <stevecam> ActionParsnip, im looking for general usability, what would you recommend
[10:23] <ne2k> I release-upgraded from maverick to natty, and it's resulted in a slightly messed up system (usable, but not great). I was contemplating doing a fresh install at some point. ought I to do a fresh install of natty, or of oneiric, or just leave it? I use the classic gnome desktop, btw
[10:23] <osmonde> my woman uses cccleaner on her partition and i cant pull too much off after shes used it..shes on win7 ntfs
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> stevecam: xfce looks and smells like Gnome2
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> osmonde: foremost or scalpel may help
[10:25] <osmonde> is there an option for just free space..?
[10:25] <nvz> .. so would not calling her "your woman", and being specific about "pull too much off"
[10:25] <stevecam> when i want to do tricky stuff in linux i use a LFS build that i compile, i dont mind xfce but i like a bit of eyecandy, i have a modern PC and if im only doing general things i dont need to worry about cpu usage
[10:25] <osmonde> im a bit noobish but have become clever
[10:26] <nvz> osmonde: can you cleverly explain what it is you want to do?
[10:26] <osmonde> wipe "freespace" on ext4
[10:27] <osmonde> i am also working on changing my habits as far as deleting things
[10:27] <nvz> oh.. heh.. paranoid much?
[10:27] <osmonde> not so much..but my finances are important
[10:28] <osmonde> incidently i am a bit paranoid..but that doesnt mean they all arnt out to get me..lol
[10:28] <osadid> *0*
[10:28] <nvz> osmonde: look into secure-delete package
[10:29] <osmonde> i have the secure delete pacage
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> osmonde: if you want to wipe the empty space to all 0s, you can use bleachbit
[10:29] <deej1976> !info secure-delete
[10:29] <rodhash> Hello guys, why when I restart the gdm with "service gdm stop/start" it brings a different window login (oneiric)?? At first it's a beautiful login window, but after running the restart cmd, appears something very simple...
[10:29] <rodhash> any idea?
[10:30] <osmonde> my only problem is that i want to leave all my files and stuff in place
[10:30] <osmonde> and just sweep up under it all
[10:31] <osmonde> as i said I have chaged how i delete things..i use bleach bit to shred files on a weekly basis
[10:31] <osmonde> however..when i look at pics on face book nd stuff it makes its way into my fs somehow
[10:32] <gappie> hi
[10:32] <nvz> anything you look at online typically gets cached
[10:32] <rodhash> Anyone?? Shouldn't appear the same login window?
[10:32] <nvz> rodhash: depends on what you changed
[10:32] <osmonde> can i take off this caching function?
[10:32] <nvz> heh
[10:32] <rodhash> nvz, I didn't change anything... I just made a stop / start
[10:33] <rodhash> but if I restart the ubuntu... the beautiful login window appears again
[10:33] <gappie> i need some assistance please: my ubuntu boots to console mode. How do I run a shell script on startup in console mode?
[10:33] <nvz> osmonde: even using something like chromium's incognito mode I believe its still cached temporarily.. not sure though as I'm not that paranoid
[10:34] <n97087> gappie, before or after login?
[10:34] <gappie> i am hoping to hve auto login on startup.is that even possible?
[10:34] <nvz> rodhash: idk if it were me I'd look at the gdm log
[10:34] <osmonde> truth be told my old lady gets in my biz..since shes become techi with the photo rec program..I've heard "whos this" bout a thousand times..and i need her out my biz..
[10:35] <nvz> osmonde: hence why my first comment to your original question was you could stop calling her "your woman" ... "old lady" isn't much better
[10:35] <Anomie211> On Windows, when you hold the scroll wheel down and move the mouse down lower the page will scroll itself, anyway to do this in Ubuntu? Can't see any sort of options in the 'Mouse & Touchpad' bit
[10:35] <osmonde> lol
[10:35] <nvz> rarely can technology solve a relationship problem if ever
[10:35] <osmonde> shes 89
[10:35] <osmonde> not really...I mean..my wonderful wife
[10:36] <gappie> n97087 : can you auto login on console mode boot?
[10:36] <osmonde> No the relation ship i use nortan antibitch on...its reaally expensive and comes bundled with red lobster
[10:36] <gappie> this is for an autonomous system
[10:36] <nvz> heh
[10:36] <gmzlj> gappie: yes
[10:37] <gappie> gmzlj : how? a link would help please
[10:37] <gmzlj> gappie: google :P
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> !google
[10:37] <gmzlj> gappie: edit /etc/event.d/ttyX
[10:37] <n97087> gappie, I do not know off hand
[10:38] <gappie> what I want is boot to console mode, auto login, run shell script auto shutdown after x hours. possible?
[10:38] <gmzlj> gappie: add --autologin <user> to the command line
[10:38] <n97087> gappie, yes use cron
[10:38] <osmonde> I kid...I kid...anywho    SECURE DELETE i will be looking into..thx
[10:38] <gmzlj> gappie: for that, you shouldn't be doing it like that
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> gappie: you can use cron to run stuff at boot, or add the reference in /etc/rc.local     You shouldn't have to log in, you can run stuff in the background
[10:38] <gappie> n97087 : cron for?
[10:39] <gmzlj> gappie: just start your command via upstart
[10:39] <gmzlj> gappie: and thats it
[10:39] <gappie> gmzlj : upstart?
[10:39] <gmzlj> gappie: how ubuntu starts services
[10:40] <gappie> gmzlj : so do i edit something for upstart to work?
[10:40] <gmzlj> gappie: whats the command you want to run?
[10:40] <gmzlj> gappie: read some documentation, there's plenty of it a google away
[10:40] <gappie> well i want to run a shell script with some code
[10:40] <gmzlj> gappie: when?
[10:40] <gappie> on startup
[10:40] <gmzlj> and why shutdown afterwords?
[10:41] <gappie> before battery of system flat
[10:41] <gappie> for save shutdown
[10:41] <gmzlj> gappie: rc.local then
[10:41] <dr_willis> gappie:  and how often are you wanting to do this?
[10:41] <gappie> once in  week or so
[10:41] <gappie> it is a raodside system
[10:42] <gmzlj> gappie: how does this computer get turned on? im not sure i understand the utility of this
[10:42] <gappie> i tried clean debian, but i know ubuntu
[10:42] <dr_willis> gappie:  you want to manually controll it? you could set up rc.local to do it..
[10:43] <gappie> the user will install the device on a pole, flip a switch, and the system starts working for 3 hours or so
[10:43] <dr_willis> rc.local then could do it..
[10:43] <gappie> ok best place to start reading on rc.local?
[10:44] <gmzlj> google
[10:44] <gmzlj> but its just a bash script
[10:44] <gappie> i google myself to death, so then I camehere
[10:44] <oCean> gmzlj: don'
[10:44] <oCean> gmzlj: don't suggest google here, thanks
[10:44] <dr_willis> yea theres not a lot to read on rc.local
[10:45] <gmzlj> oCean: i told him is was a bash script
[10:45] <dr_willis> its a bash script ran as root at the end of the boot process.
[10:45] <gappie> ok so I add my code in rc.local
[10:45] <gmzlj> if he doesn't know bash he's going to have to do some reading
[10:45] <dr_willis> You sould like you are totally not needing any thing but a custome boot up.
[10:45] <gappie> to launch my shell script
[10:47] <gappie> i installed the full ubuntu desktop version and changed it to boot to console mode. Is there a better way of getting a console boot system?
[10:48] <gmzlj> server install
[10:48] <gmzlj> minimal install
[10:48] <gmzlj> can't remember what its called
[10:48] <Firedog> text mode install
[10:48] <timo_b> hello everybody
[10:48] <Firedog> hello timo_b
[10:49] <timo_b> I'm using 11.10 (amd64). Default install with unity
[10:49] <timo_b> it feels a bit lazy
[10:49] <darshan> i am using "find / -name en" command to find a file ,but it is searching me and giving an directory..tell me the perfect command to find a file with name en
[10:49] <timo_b> I'm running 10.10 on my Lenovo S10-3 and it's fast as hell
[10:50] <Firedog> Is there anywhere that the karmic apt archives are stored in their last state? or have they been deleted from the internet?
[10:50] <deej1976> "find / -name en -type f"
[10:50] <gmzlj> darshan: -type f
[10:50] <timo_b> I already switched from compiz to metacity, but it's still slow
[10:50] <gmzlj> darshan: man find has everything you need in there
[10:51] <darshan> gmzlj-wat r u saying plz explain it
[10:52] <dr_willis> the name of the file is just 'en' ? thats it?
[10:52] <gmzlj> darshan: man find
[10:53] <gmzlj> darshan: man is the manual command
[10:53] <gmzlj> darshan: just saying all this stuff is documented
[10:54] <deej1976> darshan: "find / -name en -type f"
[10:54] <Firedog> darshan, you can use grep if you are searching for a partial filename and you want an easy solution
[10:54] <gmzlj> darshan: yes
[10:54] <gmzlj> darshan: if en is part of the filename use *en*
[10:54] <gmzlj> otherwise it matches exactly en
[10:54] <mmv> '*en*', even
[10:55] <Firedog> Is there anywhere that the karmic apt archives are stored in their last state? or have they been deleted from the internet?
[10:56] <Firedog> most mirrors giving 404 now
[10:56] <gmzlj> Firedog: maybe theres a working mirror?
[10:56] <Firedog> I am hoping so, I will then mirror it
[10:56] <gmzlj> Firedog: script it
[10:57] <Firedog> hmm ... thinks
[10:57] <gmzlj> Firedog: or google for exact matches on package filenames
[10:57] <deej1976> !oldrelease
[10:57] <gmzlj> Firedog: curl is your friend here
[10:58] <Firedog> deej1976 :)
[10:59] <deej1976> Firedog: Theres docs for old system, can't remember search crit
[10:59] <Firedog> gmzlj I can see what you are suggesting with curl and I could hammer something together that will do the deed on all known mirrors but deej1976 is suggesting an official old version thing
[11:00] <deej1976> !eol |Firedog
[11:00] <gmzlj> well if you want to see if any mirror still has old packages
[11:00] <gmzlj> just try to grab something from each one until you find one thats working
[11:01] <gmzlj> their has to be an out-of-date mirror somewhere
[11:01] <Firedog> I know, I knew it was coming but I forgot that that meant the repositories would disappear and leave me with no software. Updates are not important, just the archive.
[11:02] <gmzlj> Firedog: make sure you grab everything you need if you do find a mirror then :P
[11:02] <Firedog> I agree gmzlj ther probably will be one that has not updated :P
[11:02] <zaffy> try here http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[11:03] <deej1976> Firedog: http://tinyurl.com/c5cq4mv
[11:03] <max> jfdf
[11:03] <Firedog> @zaffy, got-it
[11:04] <skilz> Gnome-osd doesnt work in fluxbox?
[11:04] <Richar_MA> Hello everyone,It seems that freenode.net has been blocked in China.
[11:04] <skilz> Im after something to show volume status and caps lock status ect
[11:05] <gmzlj> Richar_MA: suprise suprise
[11:05] <skilz> with nice green osd
[11:05] <linexp> hi all
[11:05] <linexp> hi all
[11:05] <linexp> regards
[11:05] <MechanisM> hello ppl anyone have problems with skype? seems like after microsoft bought skype they want to crash linux systems with linux version of skype/
[11:05] <Firedog> zaffy and deej1976: oldreleases are originals, not the latest mirrors.
[11:05] <gmzlj> MechanisM: works for me
[11:06] <deej1976> Firedog: You should probably look at upgrading. 9.10 is no longer supported
[11:06] <MechanisM> gmzlj skype causing a lot of dependency problems in my ubuntu
[11:06] <zaffy> Firedog, even http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/   ?
[11:06] <gmzlj> MechanisM: thats a different problem
[11:07] <gappie> gmzlj : what about auto shutdown after x hours? is that also possible? someother placelike rc.local I can add code?
[11:07] <MechanisM> anyone knows why ubuntu.com/testing doesn't offers anymore testing versions?
[11:08] <gmzlj> gappie: yeah, but kinda silly
[11:08] <gmzlj> gappie: what if someone is using the machine?
[11:08] <jwtiyar> i have both windows and ubuntu , now i want to extend my ubuntu storage , how ?
[11:08] <gmzlj> gappie: but cron would be what your looking for
[11:08] <giommy25> hello
[11:08] <gappie> no one will. it is specific to requirements of project
[11:09] <gappie> ok thanks
[11:09] <gappie> so i google just cron
[11:09] <deej1976> MechanisM: Try asking in #ubuntu-testing
[11:09] <MechanisM> deej it's #ubuntu+1 I think
[11:10] <MechanisM> testing ubuntu channel
[11:10] <deej1976> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO sayes: Find help on #ubuntu-testing
[11:11] <jayesh_> unity desktop seems to be bit hard  to use.alt + F2 is not that easy.no panel widgets
[11:11] <jwtiyar> i have both windows and ubuntu , now i want to extend my ubuntu storage , how ?
[11:11] <jayesh_> is there anything I miss on this?
[11:11] <deej1976> MechanisM: Are you after this: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[11:12] <MechanisM> ohh thanxx
[11:15] <michaelaa> does anyone use paltalk
[11:15] <Richar_MA> failed to connect irc.freenode.net using pidgin.
[11:16] <gmzlj> Richar_MA: that's your problem right there: pidgin for irc
[11:16] <gmzlj> :P
[11:16] <kandinski> hi, is there a way to change between unity and unity 2d without closing all programs and logging out?
[11:16] <kandinski> (and vice-versa)
[11:18] <Firedog> OK, I found a mirror that still has karmic on it. Now because of the pool / dist layout I need to figure out a way of mirroring only the karmic bit
[11:20] <Exxon> Richar_MA, try changing the connection port no by default its 6667, try 8001
[11:22] <edakiri> What are install options to use the Debian (a.k.a. "alternative") installer for the current release?
[11:23] <Sidewinder1> Appears as though the floodbots are going ape-hockey, again. :-(
[11:24] <gmzlj> Firedog: rsync
[11:24] <Firedog> I think I need to filter out the channel mechanics just to see what real people are saying
[11:25] <Firedog> gmzlj: rsync, maybe. i have found apt-mirror and investigating
[11:25] <edakiri> Firedog, what do you mean 'mechanics'?
[11:25] <gmzlj> Firedog: what irc client? weechat?
[11:25] <gmzlj> or xchat?
[11:26] <gmzlj> i can give you a hand
[11:26] <Sidewinder1> Firedog, Nah, this should be temporary, at least 'til one of the Ops fixes the prob..
[11:26] <gmzlj> edakiri: hide join/part messages
[11:26] <edakiri> gmzlj, xchat can filter those?  how?
[11:26] <aascensao> s
[11:26] <Firedog> it is xchat
[11:26] <llutz> edakiri: rightclick on channel-tab, settings
[11:26] <edakiri> Firedog, that is the job of the IRC client.
[11:26] <gmzlj> can't remember offhand: google "xchat confrence mode" and it should be first hit
[11:27] <gmzlj> you should hit the faq
[11:27] <edakiri> that was it.
[11:27] <Exxon> bye
[11:27] <amitprakash> How do I pull a bzr repo from launchpad?
[11:28] <Firedog> got it, conference mode on: thanks guys, and gals
[11:28] <gmzlj> for weechat google "smart filter"
[11:28] <gmzlj> Firedog: np
[11:29] <_Rod2k> Guys I need some serious help here...I got GeoVision to work out on Linux but I messed up with it and I now realize I just deleted some video files from the Geovision app...is there a way to restore those deleted files?
[11:30] <_Rod2k> Look I know this is not the place to address this issue but I REALLY need someone to point me to the right direction...I need Anyone who knows something about geovision, please?
[11:31] <gmzlj> _Rod2k: install it?
[11:31] <szal> _Rod2k: if I get you correctly, GeoVision is not even a Linux app, so it's certainly not a *buntu app, and we don't do non-linux app support
[11:31] <_Rod2k> Guys it's not about whether it runs on which OS, I managed to make it to run using WINE but I accidentally removed some video files.
[11:32] <gmzlj> _Rod2k: reinstall it
[11:32] <edakiri> amitprakash, bazaar has its own channel, as does launchpad.  "bzr branch lp:projectname" --IIRC
[11:32] <_Rod2k> gmzlj Already tried it
[11:32] <gmzlj> _Rod2k: you can't undelete
[11:34] <Sidewinder1> _Rod2k, Also there's the #winehq channel.
[11:36] <slartibartfast> *
[11:37] <Firedog> apt-mirror indicates that just for amd64 archive 21.7GB of files will be downloaded :)
[11:37] <Firedog> no it's 27.1
[11:38] <gmzlj> hey back
[11:38] <gmzlj> sorry
[11:38] <deej1976> Firedog: Do you need all of the mirror?
[11:38] <gmzlj> _Rod2k: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec
[11:38] <gmzlj> sorry, accidently killed my client
[11:38] <Firedog> deej1976: what I need is for upgrading to the latest version not to mess up my computer then I might do it more often
[11:39] <lyw> hello
[11:39] <lyw> hello world
[11:40] <Firedog> ubuntu upgrade mess around with config files change the way the desktop looks and generally meck about with your system so you spend the next few months putting it back bit by bit
[11:40] <Sidewinder1> lyw, Mornin'.
[11:40] <deej1976> Firedog: You will probably be ok upto and including 11.04
[11:41] <Sidewinder1> !pm > lyw
[11:41] <Firedog> I also happen to get on well with GNOME 2 and compiz and last time from jaunty really messed this up and also changed automount policy, sound driver (pulse!), samba config, NFS exports. Its a real pain
[11:42] <Richard_MA> I'm coming back.
[11:43] <Firedog> I can run the latest versions in virtualbox, but they suck in comparison. Unity is horrible. Its like system 7 or something
[11:44] <deej1976> Firedog: Have you looked at xubuntu/lubuntu ?
[11:45] <gmzlj> Firedog: gnome3 maybe?
[11:45] <Firedog> yes, better, but gnome 2 is what I like. I think Mint and also Suse are hanging on to gnome2 suse is rpm though (eugh!)
[11:46] <Firedog> gnome3 is not good
[11:46] <gmzlj> suse has gnome 3, iirc
[11:46] <deej1976> Firedog: Mint is using a fork called Mate
[11:46] <gmzlj> they may just still over gnome 2
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> MATE is unstable
[11:46] <gmzlj> deej1976: no, they offer both
[11:46] <gmzlj> its not just unstable, its dead end too
[11:46] <Firedog> there is, of course, debian :)
[11:46] <gmzlj> one guy replacing a whole team?
[11:47] <gmzlj> Firedog: gnome 3 is inevitable there
[11:47] <gmzlj> its in unstable already
[11:48] <Firedog> I think by trying to improve gnome integration with gnome3 they actually made it less configurable
[11:48] <Richard_MA1> ok, I can join freenode.net now.
[11:48] <Firedog> :)
[11:48] <gmzlj> Firedog: who? gnome or ubuntu?
[11:48] <szal> gmzlj: afaics, openSUSE 12.1 comes w/ exactly 2 packages for Gnome 2
[11:48] <Firedog> gnome
[11:49] <gmzlj> what do you mean integration?
[11:49] <gmzlj> gnome 3 is a step back, for sure, but thats because its a fresh start and still a work in progress
[11:49] <Firedog> between components of gnome
[11:49] <gmzlj> compare gnome 2.30 with 2.0
[11:49] <gmzlj> Firedog: nah, i love it :P
[11:50] <gmzlj> new gedit and chat apps look increadible
[11:50] <gmzlj> and boxes looks sick
[11:50] <Firedog> thing is, I have a system which works the way I want it to. It would be nice to use more up-to-date software too in parts. Its a real dilemma
[11:50] <gmzlj> Firedog: sounds like you should try a rolling release
[11:51] <Firedog> like debian?
[11:51] <szal> since when is Debian rolling-release?
[11:51] <gmzlj> archlinux?
[11:51] <gmzlj> szal: debian testing/unstable almost is
[11:51] <Firedog> szal, ok, but testing is always.. yah you said it already
[11:52] <gmzlj> Firedog: your statemen up there is pretty much the archlinux manifesto :P
[11:53] <MonkeyDust> why not work with beta testers
[11:54] <Firedog> gmzlj: I am looking in to this now :))
[11:54] <Firedog> aptosid is a rolling release of sid
[11:55] <Firedog> according to wikipedia
[11:56] <leejohn> ) leejohn: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/783598 anyone know if this fix is also applicable for OpenLDAP ?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> leejohn: if someone knew a fix, the bug would be closed
[11:56] <leejohn> lightdm doesn't prompt a user that his/her credential is expired, instead it just prompt for a new password change request
[11:57] <Firedog> nice to learn something new; arch sounds interesting but maybe not for me.
[11:58] <Firedog> a debian base is the way forward in my opinion.
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> Firedog: try xpud too, its small and extremely fast (boots in 4 seconds here)
[11:59] <gmzlj> Firedog: theres also gentoo
[11:59] <gmzlj> !gentoo
[11:59] <gmzlj> oh
[11:59] <gmzlj> i expected something snide
[12:00] <Sidewinder1> She is rerely snide..
[12:00] <Sidewinder1> rarely, even.
[12:00] <pulpfiction> good morning everyone
[12:00] <Sidewinder1> Mornin'.
[12:01] <Richard_MA> who am i?
[12:01] <deej1976> !ot | Richard_MA
[12:01] <pulpfiction> i have a really simple question: how do i set the hardware clock to GMT and then set my ubuntu clock to the timezone i am?
[12:01] <pulpfiction> i have another SO installed and everytime i correct the time on one of them, the other gets wrong
[12:02] <Sidewinder1> !rootirc | Richard_MA
[12:02] <Firedog> gentoo is nice, I think I prefer a system where some of the work is taken out by sensible decision making.
[12:03] <gmzlj> Firedog: arch :P. /trolling
[12:04]  * Sidewinder1 Sighs..
[12:05] <Firedog> ;) seriously though. compiz and gnome 2 looks so good (especially cube desktop switching); its frustrating that there is a step backwards. Videos play on 3D textures and windows are dynamic even when moving, etc, etc
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> Firedog: shame gnome2 is dead
[12:06] <gmzlj> Firedog: technically that last part holds now for mutter and kwin and anything modern
[12:06] <gmzlj> as they're all composing window managers
[12:06] <gmzlj> the cube shit was kool
[12:06] <gmzlj> *cool
[12:06] <crizzy> Firedog: gnome3 fallback mode more or less works like gnome2
[12:06] <gmzlj> but at least you can still run compiz with xfce
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> or use xfce4 with compiz as WM
[12:06] <crizzy> biggest diff i noticed is you have to hold alt to 2nd click on applets :P
[12:07] <gmzlj> crizzy: and its a change for the better
[12:07] <Firedog> crizzy, but not with compiz.
[12:07] <crizzy> Firedog: false
[12:07] <gmzlj> gnome-panel in gnome 2 was actually crap
[12:07] <gmzlj> libbonabo everywhere
[12:07] <crizzy> Firedog: works just fine
[12:07] <gmzlj> that was depreciated ages ago
[12:07] <Firedog> I have seen unity with compiz and the side panel did not go with the rest of the desktop
[12:07] <gmzlj> Firedog: works fine. fallback mode is still metacity
[12:08] <DemoOn> what is uo with that from live usb everything works great, but when i install it it doesn't work?
[12:08] <Firedog> DemoOn, probably drivers, generic ones are used on live usb
[12:08] <crizzy> gmzlj: it works with compiz just fine. ubuntu even adds session for this, 'gnome classic' and 'gnome classic (noeffects)' just like before when you install gnome
[12:08] <DemoOn> Firedog: how can i make it to work with generic ones?
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> DemoOn: what doesn't work? What is 'it'?
[12:09] <Firedog> DemoOn, you probably don't want to use generic drivers in the long run.
[12:10] <DemoOn> ActionParsnip: it hangs on splash screen, i see only violet screen, now i tried kubuntu and it's same
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> DemoOn: what GPU do you use?
[12:10] <DemoOn> ActionParsnip: radeon 6850
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> DemoOn: try the boot option:  nomodeset
[12:11] <DemoOn> ActionParsnip: where can i put it?
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> DemoOn: or the boot option:  radeon.nomodeset=1
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption
[12:12] <yousifabdullah> Hello from webOS :)
[12:12] <DemoOn> ActionParsnip: can i put that nomodest into grub somewhere?
[12:13] <Firedog> fortunately I installed windows 7 beta in my second partition (same size as first) this has since expired so I might use this space to try and hammer the latest ubuntu into some usable form. -pulse +window controls on right not left +compiz -unity
[12:14] <gmzlj> Firedog: -pulse simple isn't doable
[12:14] <gmzlj> even if its gnome 2
[12:14] <gmzlj> and hasn't been for some time
[12:14] <Firedog> pulse is horrible
[12:14] <gmzlj> pulse is awesome. its just misunderstood
[12:14] <Firedog> I changed back to alsa because it works Pulse just made aweful noises
[12:15] <gmzlj> Firedog: turn of cpu schedualing in /etc/pulse/system.pa
[12:15] <gmzlj> but thats alsa's fault
[12:16] <gmzlj> 80% of audio problems in pulse are alsa's fault with less than stellar audio drivers
[12:16] <Firedog> With pulse; I thought it simply did not get along with my sound card.
[12:16] <norpan> How can i configure ubuntu to discover ALL my cores? I just discover ONE! im running i7 with ubuntu 11.10 and have to boot with "noapic nolapic" because it wont boot otherwise
[12:16] <gmzlj> pulseaudio uses cpu timers for audio, like mac's core audio or windows 7 subsystem
[12:17] <Firedog> The one reason I wanted a windows install was for good audio drivers.
[12:17] <gmzlj> its a modern approach thats more flexiable, allows for variable latency demands simotaneously, and uses less power
[12:17] <Firedog> norpan, it should automatically
[12:17] <norpan> Firedog: its not ;(
[12:17] <gmzlj> traditionally, sound card interupts where used
[12:17] <Firedog> norpan it's part of the kernel code
[12:18] <norpan> Firedog: well whats wrong then? :S
[12:18] <gmzlj> pulse, thus, uses a lot of alsa api that almost never gets used to get access to the raw audio buffers
[12:18] <gmzlj> and broken alsa drivers where and are problematic
[12:18] <gmzlj> but this feature atleast is configuratble
[12:18] <wolfric> my gnome config is screwed up since upgrading. the task bar is at the top of the screen under the bar with "applications + places". I tried deleting the gconf, gconfd compiz dirs and restarting but it didn't fix it. When i create a new user however, it isn't screwed up on theirs. what do i need to change to get it back to default
[12:19] <gmzlj> Firedog: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/GlitchFreeAudio
[12:19] <gmzlj> Firedog: ctrl-f tsched
[12:20] <gmzlj> wolfric: screenshot? im confused
[12:20] <gmzlj> wolfric: delete .dconf too
[12:20] <Firedog> gmzlj, you sound like you know a lot about pulse. I am becoming convinced that it could be good. I did find the lack of hardware controls under pulse to be limiting. Alsamixer has more buttons and controllers than you can shake a sheikh at.
[12:20] <gmzlj> wolfric: ~/.config/dconf
[12:21] <sburwood1> Can I change an antenna on a USB wifi key and get better recepton??
[12:21] <gmzlj> Firedog: that is true. those are there, kinda, its just a bit more complicated. and the default gnome-sound-panel doesn't expost everything.
[12:21] <gmzlj> typical gnome simplness
[12:21] <sburwood1> I have a TP-LINK tl-wn722N
[12:22] <gmzlj> sburwood1: yes, but it may not be simple
[12:22] <Firedog> sburwood1: yes you CAN
[12:22] <wolfric> getting a screenshot now
[12:22] <wolfric> gmzlj: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/84/screenshotproblem.png/
[12:22] <iceroot> sburwood1: ##hardare
[12:23] <iceroot> sburwood1: ##hardware
[12:23] <sburwood1> Firedog: for a newbien like me, would it be easy?
[12:23] <sburwood1> thx iceroot
[12:24] <gmzlj> wolfric: is that gnome 2 or 3?
[12:24] <Firedog> sburwood1:  http://lmgtfy.com/?q=change+antenna+on+wifi+dongle
[12:24] <bazhang> Firedog, please dont use lmgtfy
[12:24] <wolfric> gmzlj: 2
[12:25] <gmzlj> right click -> move panel won't work?
[12:25] <Firedog> bazhang: got-it :P
[12:25] <republic> anyone know the official irc channel for tuxpaint?
[12:25] <Firedog> it is funny though
[12:26] <gmzlj> republic: tux4kids
[12:26] <republic> gmzlj, fantastic, thanks dude :D
[12:26] <wolfric> gmzlj: cheers fixed now
[12:26] <gmzlj> republic: its on their site
[12:27] <wolfric> gmzlj: still can't right click any more though... is this a "feature" ?
[12:27] <gmzlj> wolfric: gnome 3 fallback?
[12:27] <gmzlj> alt+right click
[12:28] <wolfric> gmzlj: good grief, why was that implemented?
[12:29] <gmzlj> wolfric: because otherwise its ambigious what gets the right click, the applet or the panel
[12:29] <gmzlj> take right clicking on a system tray icon
[12:30] <DemoOn> with nomodeset i can only do something using ctrl+alt+f1, what can i try else?
[12:30] <gmzlj> sometimes it tricky finding a place where right click would give you the panel's right click menu
[12:30] <gmzlj> its an old gnome bug
[12:30] <Firedog> gmzlj: we need more mouse buttons, oh wait I found more
[12:30] <gmzlj> Firedog: middle click and mouse wheel work too!
[12:30] <Firedog> :)
[12:31] <gmzlj> middle click closes windows (iirc, that may be xfce)
[12:31] <gmzlj> but scroll wheel will cycle through them
[12:31] <Firedog> it does on the task bar which can be irritating if scrolling through a document and the mouse wanders over the task bar
[12:31] <wolfric> also, how do i remove the guest account
[12:32] <wolfric> i've tried to remove gdm-guest-session and it says it's not installed however if i do dpkg -l | grep guest.. it shows it installed
[12:32] <wolfric> i even installed it and removed it and no difference... can still login with guest
[12:33] <gmzlj> wolfric: http://shuffleos.com/3614/how-to-disable-guest-session-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot/
[12:33] <gmzlj> i know you're not supposed to say go google it
[12:33] <gmzlj> but thats something people have written article about
[12:33] <gmzlj> google is your friend
[12:34] <Firedog> I found that out just :P
[12:34] <gmzlj> yeah
[12:34] <Firedog> with the lmgtfy advice
[12:34] <gmzlj> i can respect it
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> google knows more about you, than you know about yourself ;)
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> wolfric: http://joesteiger.com/2011/11/14/remove-guest-session-from-lightdm-login-ubuntu-11-10/
[12:34] <gmzlj> but i think its just a touch silly as a blanket rule
[12:35]  * Sidewinder1 Prefers Scroogle..
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> bekka
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> wolfric: removing and reinstalling will not change the config magically
[12:35] <gmzlj> duckduckgoose
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> blekka*
[12:35] <Firedog> agreed, perhaps a rtfg or something instead
[12:35] <gmzlj> *duckduckgo
[12:35] <wolfric> ActionParsnip: thanks
[12:35] <gmzlj> alright sleep time
[12:36] <Firedog> thanks for your help
[12:36] <Firedog> gmzlj: it's appreciated
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> wolfric: simple websearch...
[12:36] <wolfric> ActionParsnip: i did, it came up with removing exactly what i specified
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> wolfric: http://duckduckgo.com/?q=oneiric+remove+guest+from+lightdm&kp=1    is what I used
[12:37] <republic> wow tuxpaint is amazing
[12:37] <wolfric> ActionParsnip: and where would i have gotten lightdm from?
[12:37] <republic> tuxpaint + ubuntu is very suitable for children
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> wolfric: its the default login manager in oneiric
[12:37] <wolfric> ActionParsnip: google "ubuntu remove guest" both the forum and this link both say the package removal
[12:38] <wolfric> http://askubuntu.com/questions/28165/how-do-i-remove-the-guest-session-option-from-the-shutdown-menu
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> wolfric: too generic, you should specify the release in searches
[12:38] <mint> part
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> republic: enable the funky sounds too. good times
[12:39] <wolfric> ActionParsnip: so you can see why getting that from a websearch is sometimes not an easy task
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> wolfric: depends how you search, keep them simple but exact
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> wolfric: even:   oneiric remove guest    would have been better
[12:41] <wolfric> ActionParsnip: no, you need to pretty much know the answers or have seen the answers already.  new user is never going to know they need to necessarily google the release version. If i get an answer without the release version, what would make me think it was incorrect
[12:42] <Firedog> It seems silly that there is no simple function to do what wolfric wanted to do that was already defined, as a script or whatever.
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> wolfric: its why using 2 search engines is good, different methods, different results
[12:42] <famgod> question, in gome3 how do I move icons form the gome3 bar (or unity) to the   deskktop\
[12:42] <|Long|> i need ome help with hardware (like merging 10 hard drives to one VLM) plz help
[12:43] <Firedog> ActionParsnip, bing?
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Firedog: sure, why not :)
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> famgod: one way is to copy (or symlink) the files in /usr/share/applications   to the desktop
[12:43] <Firedog> I can give you my anecdotal experience of bing. its just a shame it's not better than it is in my opinion.
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> Firedog: try a few search engines and you'll get a lot of different results, which can help resolutions
[12:44] <Firedog> to be fair, bing is the only contender left so I hope they do well in the long run. No competition is a scary prospect
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> indeed
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> I use duckduckgo as it doesn't bubble you and you get unfiltered results, unlink google
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> *unlike
[12:45] <Firedog> unlink makes sense too :)
[12:46] <wolfric> Firedog: the only reason it's good is that it leeches searches from google ( google proved it). I'd hazzard a guess they may not be doing it any more but when they were, they harvested a good amount of results from google to get them started
[12:47] <Firedog> wolfric: if they were that good by using google then I wonder how they would have been without them :o
[12:48] <wolfric> http://pastebin.com/2xPAMykC
[12:49] <wolfric> love it :p
[12:52] <rj11> Hello
[12:53] <rj11> Are there any doxygen packages available without the incredible overhead of tex? I want doxygen without the latex support.
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> wolfric: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 40976EAF437D05B5
[12:54] <HugoDaniel> hi
[12:54] <HugoDaniel> i love unity :)
[12:54] <HugoDaniel> its amazing
[12:54] <wolfric> ActionParsnip: cheers though i found the bug report on it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/24061
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> HugoDaniel: yeah, s'not bad
[12:54] <HugoDaniel> once you get used to it, things really flow like they should :)
[12:54] <luca_bi> Do you think SilverStripe could be installed on Ubuntu 11.10?
[12:54] <Firedog> ActionParsnip; the bubble thing is a real pain and I dislike it greatly. I tried various userscripts to remove it from google, they did not work reliably
[12:55] <HugoDaniel> bubble ?
[12:55] <HugoDaniel> in firefox ?
[12:55] <Firedog> HugoDaniel: search engines
[12:56] <HugoDaniel> ah
[12:56] <HugoDaniel> yes
[12:56] <HugoDaniel> duckduckgo is a nice one though
[12:56] <deej1976> luca_bi: http://www.silverstripe.org/stable-download Sayes Linux
[12:56] <HugoDaniel> or scroogle
[12:56] <HugoDaniel> :)
[12:56] <FloodBot1> HugoDaniel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:56] <HugoDaniel> oh sorry, im typing too fast
[12:57] <luca_bi> deej1976: I'm downloading it It's a file tar.gz which is the successive command?
[12:57] <HugoDaniel> i really like the bang keywords of duckduckgo, its a nice search engine to keep in firefox ctrl-k
[12:57] <deej1976> luca_bi: Works pretty much with any system/webserver running php
[12:57] <deej1976> successive?
[12:57] <luca_bi> How can I install a file tar.gz?
[12:58] <rj11> luca_bi: You don't install a tar.gz file. What you do with it depends on its contents.
[12:58] <deej1976> luca_bi: Read their instructions here: http://doc.silverstripe.org/sapphire/en/
[12:59] <luca_bi> rj11: It's SilverStripe
[12:59] <rj11> luca_bi: tar zxf the-file.tar.gz to unpack it. :)
[12:59] <deej1976> luca_bi: It's not part of Ubuntu so I can not offer any further help
[13:02] <luca_bi> rj11: My problem is that I never remember the command to unpack a file
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> wolfric: HugoDaniel yeah, its sweet like that
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> luca_bi: install unp and its abstracted to a single command
[13:03] <rj11> luca_bi: Just do 'man 1 tar' the next time. At the bottom there are a few examples. :)
[13:03] <Firedog> HugoDaniel: yes duckduckgo and scroogle; I am investigating them now
[13:03] <Firedog> also @ actionparsnip
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> I've used the duck for ages. great engine
[13:04] <deej1976> luca_bi: 'Admin hint' When given commands to use make a note of it in a little book.
[13:05] <deej1976> luca_bi: I did this when I started out, watching over the senior Admins shoulder
[13:05] <luca_bi> deej1976: Is there a chat channel IRC for SilverStripe??
[13:05] <luca_bi> What is unp??
[13:06] <deej1976> luca_bi: No idea, they have a forum on their site
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> luca_bi: its a one stop shop command for extracting nearly anything
[13:06] <luca_bi> rj11: man 1 tar??
[13:06] <axisys> how to play video dvd ?
[13:06] <aruncn1> i am trying to switch to runlevel 3 from gui. tried "telinit 3". I am still in gui, but "runlevel" says 3. any ideas?
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> luca_bi: saves having to remember if its zxvf or jxvf or if you use 7z or rar, its one command for all
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> !dvd | axisys
[13:06] <Firedog> Annoying how privacy is non existent when searching with google. even worse is that they are building a profile all the time and there is no opt-out through them.
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> !runlevel | aruncn1
[13:07] <rj11> luca_bi: Try 'man 1 tar' in a terminal.
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Firedog: doesn't worry me personally
[13:07] <norpan> How can i configure ubuntu to discover ALL my cores? I just discover ONE! im running i7 with ubuntu 11.10 and have to boot with "noapic nolapic" because it wont boot otherwise
[13:07] <axisys> ActionParsnip: thanks
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> norpan: do you have the latest BIOS?
[13:09] <luca_bi> deej1976: I have a book in which I take notes thanks a lot of commands but i should order it
[13:09] <pr0d> Hi all, i have a strange problem where my ntfs partition will not mount on boot but when the system starts i do mount -a and it works fine, any ideas?
[13:09] <rj11> luca_bi: man = short for manual.
[13:09] <luca_bi> deej1976: It is a very good advice I have a lot of booknotes each for each programs
[13:10] <kamilnadeem> HI
[13:10] <Firedog> ActionParsnip: its the all pervasiveness of it. google syndication scripts as well as google api's google ad services and statistics are bundled into so many webpages nowadays. It's creepy
[13:10] <DemonWitch> hey
[13:11] <luca_bi> ActionParnship: what is zxf file?
[13:11] <aruncn1> ubottu: so how can i goto text mode from gui?  removing init-script for gdm? i like to do it without removing the script so that if i like to boot in gui i don't have to re-enable script
[13:11] <rj11> luca_bi: z = gzip, x = extract, f = file. It's the command tar executes.
[13:12] <Firedog> lucia_bi: it is command options not a file
[13:12] <aruncn1> ubottu: ;)
[13:12] <kamilnadeem> http://i.imgur.com/bYNtt.jpg
[13:12] <luca_bi> rj11: Extract all files from archive.tar.
[13:12] <luca_bi>            tar -xf archive.tar
[13:12] <rj11> luca_bi: See 'man 1 tar' for details. It's all explained there.
[13:12] <kamilnadeem> I am getting the above while bumping my mouse to the screen , every time
[13:12] <kamilnadeem> why is that and is there a fix?
[13:12] <rj11> luca_bi: Yes, and you're tar is gzipped, so add the z: tar zxf file.tar.gz (the - is optional).
[13:12] <rj11> your*
[13:13] <like_summer> ？
[13:13] <like_summer> hello ？
[13:13] <like_summer> is there anyone here ?
[13:13] <kamilnadeem> the effect is like when you drag windows to edges but In this case I am not doing any such thing http://i.imgur.com/bYNtt.jpg
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> luca_bi: its the options on tar to extract a gzipped tarball, file extensions in Linux mean near zero, so 'zxf file' is meaningless
[13:14] <luca_bi> rj11: tar zxf is not a universal command for each file .tar?
[13:14] <DemonWitch> Hey
[13:14] <axisys> ActionParsnip: I ran both .. sudo apt-get install libdvdread4 and sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[13:14] <pr0d> Hi all, i have a strange problem where my ntfs partition will not mount on boot but when the system starts i do mount -a and it works fine, any ideas?
[13:14] <axisys> but still failing.. saying searching for plugins
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> luca_bi: if you install the unp package, with ANY archive, you can run:  unp filename    and it will extract 'filename'
[13:15] <DemonWitch> i am piping a stream to VLC from terminal, should i use ( | vlc ) or (  | vlc - )  ??
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> axisys: which players have you tried?
[13:15] <shi-tianlong> should i set the user of ww flder to www-data in order to allow apache to create modify files on websites inside?
[13:15] <axisys> ActionParsnip: mplayer vcd:///dev/sr0
[13:15] <user_> Hi
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> axisys: tried totem or vlc?
[13:16] <user_> can i install ubuntu 11.10 on mac laptop?
[13:16] <axisys> ActionParsnip: how do I call vlc ?
[13:16] <rj11> luca_bi: Read the man page. It explains it.
[13:17] <axisys> ActionParsnip: how do I call it with vlc? http://pastebin.com/hSjJ6rUw
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> axisys: install it like a normal package then from the file menu click 'open disk'
[13:17] <kamilnadeem> is there any fix for it >?
[13:17] <like_summer> 我晕。这里是哪里啊？
[13:19] <luca_bi> rj11: which is the difference between tar and gzip?
[13:19] <Kiranos> hi I have a qt app which has flashing icon in tasktray, this works in windows and xfce, but in unity tasktray it stays solid, no flashing or changing icon image in the unity launcher
[13:20] <Kiranos> is this not supported?
[13:20] <shi-tianlong> like_summer: 中文 ubuntu-cn
[13:20] <like_summer> 米有淫说汉语吗
[13:20] <shi-tianlong> like_summer: 中文 去 -》 #ubuntu-cn
[13:20] <psycho_oreos> !cn| like_summer
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> luca_bi: tar makes everything into one file but is not compressed, gzip is just a compression tool, you can use anything you like but gzip is very common
[13:20] <like_summer> zheli ?
[13:21] <axisys> ActionParsnip: vlc is working now.. thanks
[13:21] <like_summer> 只能去中文吗？
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> axisys: np man
[13:21] <psycho_oreos> like_summer, because you're speaking in Chinese, you need to join the Chinese support channels, here its mainly English only
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> Kiranos: yuo can run QT apps in Gnome, you may need to tweak them to gel nicer
[13:23] <Kiranos> ActionParsnip: thanks yes I know they work in gnome but I would like to add compatibily for unity launcher, just dont know if its possible to get flashing/blinking icons on there?
[13:23] <like_summer> psycho_oreos,  thanks
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> Kiranos: which app is it?
[13:23] <Kiranos> ActionParsnip: our companies, private app
[13:23] <psycho_oreos> like_summer, no problems
[13:23] <Kiranos> build in qt creator
[13:23] <Kiranos> using freedesktop standard
[13:24] <seeu> can anyone help me where to download ubuntu restricted extras offline installer for 11.10?
[13:24] <like_summer> are you Chinese ?
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Kiranos: could just use KDE instead...
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> seeu: that could get real messy, if you grab a system (or VM) without the package installed, install it, then copy the debs from /var/cache/apt/archives   you can use them
[13:25] <Kiranos> ActionParsnip: yea bit of a stretch though changing default window handler just because flashing icons doest work :)
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> Kiranos: depends how crucial it is
[13:25] <Kiranos> not so critical, just wanted to be certain its a limitation in unity
[13:26] <Kiranos> thanks!
[13:26] <seeu> can anyone help me where to find out ubuntu restricted extras offline installer for 11.10?
[13:27] <seeu> quit
[13:27] <like_summer> quit ?
[13:27] <r4y> hello
[13:28] <like_summer> hello
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> Kiranos: you could greate it in GTK too so it gels nice
[13:28] <Kiranos> hm so you mean gtk using freedesktops standards will have a flashing icon in unity launcher?
[13:28] <r4y> I was trying to install smartmontools but it never finished, so I closed the terminal after an hour or 2 and then tried again:
[13:28] <r4y> http://paste.ubuntu.com/749264/
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> Kiranos: not sure, could try it if you have time
[13:29] <gappie> hi again. trying to install ububntu server 10.4 i386. getting blue screen after "downloading the release file". Any ideas?
[13:29] <safiye> hello
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> r4y: are updates installing or software centre open?
[13:29] <r4y> I updated before hand
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> gappie: what does the blue screen say?
[13:29] <safiye> i am on lenovo s12 and have problems with wlan. its gone
[13:30] <r4y> I will check the system monitor
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | r4y
[13:30] <safiye> 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
[13:30] <safiye> how can i get it back to  work?
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | safiye
[13:30] <scarleo> How do I reset the battery stats in 11.10? There used to be an option in battery details to reset it but it's gone
[13:31] <gappie> ActionParsnip: there is a popup for the "downloading the release file" and then it dissapears leaving just the blue backgoround and white bar at the bottom where I can type
[13:31] <Zeakd> anyone know where I can go to find a non-web based proxy server?
[13:31] <r4y> It's still the same
[13:31] <r4y> I wasn't answering your question
[13:32] <gappie> ActionParsnip: doing install from a usb to another usb
[13:32] <gappie> or attempting to
[13:32] <gappie> then tried to install to HD from usb, but did the same
[13:32] <like_summer> weima wo kan bu dong ne ?
[13:32] <bazhang> !cn | like_summer
[13:33] <gappie> burning to cd nowfor install
[13:33] <gappie> otherwise should I try ubuntu server 11.10 ?
[13:33] <r4y> I am going to try this: http://smallmailman.wordpress.com/2010/07/11/fix-for-e-could-not-get-lock-varcacheaptarchiveslock-open-11-resource-temporarily-unavailable/
[13:34] <like_summer> join
[13:34] <like_summer> join ubuntu -tw
[13:34] <gappie> every time i do something on linux it is a battle. sheeesh
[13:35] <travis_> when I lose internet connectivity, I can't access localhost in my browser despite it being in /etc/hosts. Any ideas?
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> gappie: you'll learn
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> travis_: can you ping localhost?
[13:36] <like_summer> join #ubuntu-tw
[13:37] <Zeakd> anyone know where I can go to find a non-web based proxy server?
[13:37] <safiye> ActionParsnip, i am on crunchbang and i get this
[13:37] <Pici> like_summer: you need the slash: /join #ubuntu-tw
[13:37] <Gentoo64> Zeakd, privoxy, polipo etc
[13:37] <safiye> E: Unable to locate package bcmwl-kernel-source
[13:37] <like_summer> Pici,  yeah ,i did it
[13:37] <Pici> safiye: We do not support crunchbang here, please use their support channel.
[13:37] <safiye> okay, im sorry. i thought they both base on the same os
[13:38] <safiye> are based
[13:38] <r4y> How do I know how to kill any of these proccesses in the system monitor: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1701954
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> r4y: if you run:  ps -ef | grep dpkg    does anything come up?
[13:40] <r4y> I should have bookmarked ubuntu pastebin
[13:40] <r4y> http://paste.ubuntu.com/749269/
[13:40] <Firedog> r4y: checked for temporary lock file?
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> r4y: you can install pastebinit and run:  ps -ef | grep dpkg | pastebinit
[13:41] <like_summer> I think I should learn  enlish  someshow now .
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> r4y: sudo kill 9930     and if that doesn't work:    sudo kill -9 9930
[13:42] <Firedog> learn engrish
[13:42] <Firedog> :P
[13:42] <r4y> System monitor still looks busy
[13:42] <r4y> sudo kill -9 9930 kill: No such process
[13:43] <Firedog> r4y: use top
[13:43] <r4y> And the other didn't say anything, but hey
[13:43] <m4k> Sudo killall
[13:43] <Firedog> to discover heavy processor usage culprits
[13:43] <bogeyd6> I am on ubuntu 11.04 x86 and when clicking the upgrade button to 11.10 I get the following error: "Authentication Failed, Authenticating the upgrade failed. There may be a problem with the network or with the server"
[13:44] <bogeyd6> I use the mirror.anl.gov
[13:44] <m4k> The n/w
[13:44] <norpan> ActionParsnip: yes
[13:45] <kamilnadeem> I have created a bug on Kubuntu-website ,about it being not updated. you might help in bringing it to notice . here https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-website/+bug/893997
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> norpan: yes what? you lost me
[13:46] <norpan> ActionParsnip: i have the latest bios
[13:47] <r4y> I check all in system monitor and found the problem. Something called whiptail and when hovering over it it has a large message but postfix is part in that message so I am guessing to kill it
[13:47] <bubu> hi guys, sure you've heard this one before but can't find a straight answer online - in 11.04 how can i restart networking? service networking restart doesnt work and /etc/init.d/networkign restart has been depriciated
[13:47] <bubu> ?
[13:48] <sattu94> bubu: IIRC, sudo service networking restart,
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> norpan: good, can help with acpi stuffs
[13:48] <bogeyd6_> bubu: go up to the clock area and click on the network icon and uncheck the box, then recheck the box for your network connection
[13:48] <norpan> ActionParsnip: yeah, is that what happened when i boot with "noapic nolapic" i lose the other cores?
[13:48] <Firedog> r4y: ah whiptail how you steal my CPU power, curses to you
[13:48] <bubu> sattu94, sudo service networking restart doesnt work either
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> norpan: are there any bugs reported?
[13:49] <bubu> restart: Unknown instance:
[13:49] <sattu94> bubu: try reload,
[13:50] <bubu> bogeyd6_, my system doesnt have the connections tab at the top where clock is...
[13:50] <bubu> sattu94, already tried, same....
[13:50] <llutz> bubu: sudo network-manager restart    o
[13:50] <llutz> bubu: sudo service network-manager restart    o
[13:50] <bogeyd6_> or sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager restart
[13:50] <sattu94> llutz: network-manager != networking, right ?
[13:51] <bogeyd6_> !network-manager
[13:51] <llutz> bubu: and if you're using ifupdown, "sudo ifdown -a && sudo ifup -a"
[13:51] <r4y> I don't understand why smartmontools never finished installing. I guess I will just have to restart and try over. Sorry for flooding.
[13:51] <CraigMason> Hi all. For some reason, I cannot edit any settings in the Network Settings panel. Edit/Delete buttons do not work
[13:51] <r4y> TY, Take care
[13:52] <bogeyd6_> I am on ubuntu 11.04 x86 and when clicking the upgrade button to 11.10 I get the following error: "Authentication Failed, Authenticating the upgrade failed. There may be a problem with the network or with the server"
[13:52] <bubu> llutz, I get: Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0. and same for eth1 when i issue that...
[13:52] <sattu94> CraigMason: I think you probably need superuser permissions to change those?
[13:52] <CraigMason> sattu94, tried running as sudo etc. No luck
[13:53] <llutz> bubu: so you haven't configured your network in /etc/network/interfaces (ifupdown). restart network-manager to restart network then
[13:53] <bogeyd6_> !cli
[13:54] <bubu> llutz, cool thanks that seemed to work. has that actually taken my interfaces down and back up again though or just restarted the network manager binary...?
[13:55] <Firedog> r4y: you killed whiptail, whiptail Displays user-friendly dialog boxes from shell scripts. Such as installing smartmontools :P hence my curses reference, sorry
[13:57] <llutz> bubu:use " sudo service network-manager restart    "  if you  haven't configured your network in /etc/network/interfaces, use "ifdown/ifup" _if_ you have
[13:57] <norpan> ActionParsnip: i dont really follow you here, bugs reported where? im sorry
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> !bugs | norpan
[13:57] <llutz> !pm  | bubu
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> norpan: that link shoud give a link to the bugs and you can search
[13:58] <bubu> lol
[13:58] <bubu> kk
[13:58] <bubu> does restarting-networking mgr actually take the interfaces down and backup and reconfigure?
[13:58] <Firedog> I have just laughed myself silly at engrish.com thanks to like_summer
[13:58] <norpan> ActionParsnip: ALOT of stuff to read :P
[13:58] <llutz> bubu: it should
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> norpan: indeed
[13:59] <norpan> ActionParsnip: is there any meaning of using acpi? i belive that is whats is doing bad stuff here.  i use both "noapic" and "nolapic" could i use some other command to make it boot?
[14:00] <norpan> ActionParsnip: oh..its the APIC im disabling with those..
[14:01] <cohen> Hi
[14:03] <norpan> How can i make my Ubuntu boot WITHOUT the bootparameters "noapic nolapic" because im only seeing one core when i use those..
[14:05] <Nakou> Hello Guys
[14:06] <axisys> how do I upload images into a blank CD-R
[14:07] <axisys> i have 50 jpg files that I like to upload in the cd-r
[14:07] <iceroot> axisys: burn them
[14:07] <iceroot> axisys: with k3b for example
[14:07] <axisys> iceroot: i only know how to burn iso using wodim to burn iso into a cd
[14:07] <norpan> How can i make my Ubuntu boot WITHOUT the bootparameters "noapic nolapic" because im only seeing one core when i use those..
[14:08] <iceroot> norpan: press "shift" at boot and select the kernel you want to boot, press e to edit that line and remove what you want
[14:08] <axisys> iceroot: any other app besides k3b ? brassero may be?
[14:08] <iceroot> axisys: yes brassero should be the default one on ubuntu
[14:08] <yousifabdullah> nero 4 linux ftw :p
[14:08] <iceroot> axisys: just select "files" instead of "images"
[14:08] <Sidewinder1> axisys, When you put in the blank CD, it should ask you.. Beassero should work..
[14:08] <norpan> iceroot: yes thats how i got it to boot in the first place, by adding "noapic nolapic" as boot parameters. But it does not boot without those parameters and i feel strongly that this is causing me to only see 1 core in ubuntu
[14:08] <Anticom> hi all
[14:09] <Sidewinder1> Brassero, even.
[14:09] <yousifabdullah> hi anticom what's up
[14:09] <zak_> Hi, I run 11.10 server with xubuntu desktop via a not-so-good kvm switch. Is there a way to get ubuntu to recognize the full resolution of the monitor (1280x1024, not 1024x768)?
[14:09] <yousifabdullah> norpan tried acpi=off?
[14:09] <yousifabdullah> zak what kvm is that
[14:09] <norpan> yousifabdullah: no i have not, is that somehow different? or similiar?
[14:09] <Pici> yousifabdullah: acpi != apic
[14:09] <yousifabdullah> pici I know but it may help
[14:09] <zak_> dlink dkvm-2k
[14:09] <Anticom> first to say: i'm a linux noob. i want to remove tesseract using apt-get remove but it says E: Unable to locate package tesseract
[14:09] <yousifabdullah> norpan it's different
[14:10] <Pici> Anticom: I believe  the package name is tesseract-ocr
[14:10] <yousifabdullah> zak does your graphics card have the proper driver
[14:10] <norpan> yousifabdullah: i have trying to read what apic and acpi does, but im not 100% on it..
[14:10] <yousifabdullah> norpan trying won't kill...
[14:10] <norpan> yousifabdullah: but i figured its not really good to run "noapic nolapic" as standard
[14:11] <norpan> yousifabdullah: but, if it boots when i disable apic, why do i need to disable acpi instead?
[14:11] <norpan> apic AND lapic
[14:11] <zak_> yousifabdullah, it is a standard intel onboard graphics controller
[14:11] <axisys> I have 714 1M files.. so the CD-R is smaller.. any suggestion on how to convert those JPGs to smaller size so I can fit them all in one CD ?
[14:12] <axisys> SONY CD-R is 700MB only
[14:12] <yeats> axisys: gzip?
[14:12] <jjgalvez__> axisys: you should be able to recompress them to make them smaller
[14:12] <axisys> yeats: well i need to keep the images visible
[14:12] <yeats> axisys: maybe save them as a lower image quality using gimp?
[14:12] <axisys> jjgalvez__: jpg to jpg and still smaller ?
[14:13] <axisys> yeats: 714 of them using gimp will take very long time
[14:13] <jjgalvez__> axisys: I would use something like imagemagic from the command line to compress them even smaller
[14:13] <Norwack> I Need help
[14:14] <amit> hii.. Need help here
[14:14] <Norwack> Is it possible to get ubuntu 8.1????
[14:14] <jjgalvez__> axisys: your compression should depend on how much compression was used to make the jpegs in the first place, since you really don't need much additional space you should not need to increase the compression by much
[14:14] <sattu94> Norwack: you mean 8.04 ?
[14:14] <yousifabdullah> norwack sure try the torrents
[14:14] <jjgalvez__> amit: ask your question
[14:14] <Norwack> yes sattu
[14:14] <xangua> Norwack: please use a supported ubuntu release ubuntu.com
[14:14] <amit> When I try to open a folder using dash or applications it shows.. Failed to execute default File Manager.
[14:15] <axisys> jjgalvez__: DSC_8402.JPG: JPEG image data, JFIF standard 1.02
[14:15] <Norwack> i dont like the new layout of ubuntu
[14:15] <sattu94> xangua: i remember when i installed 9.04 because the LTSP server documentation worked only on 9.04 systems, and could not find any working documentation for 10.04..
[14:15] <sipior> Norwack: you'll like getting rooted even less.
[14:15] <yeats> Norwack: you'd probably want 10.04
[14:15] <zak_> I suspect that the kvm drops some/all of the edid info.. :(
[14:15] <Norwack> or is it possible to get the layout of ubuntu 8.04 to ubuntu 11?
[14:15] <amit> When I try to open a folder using dash or applications it shows.. Failed to execute default File Manager.
[14:16] <CaptainKnots> Norwack: try kubuntu or lubuntu
[14:16] <CaptainKnots> or mint 12
[14:16] <xangua> !nounity | Norwack
[14:16] <Nakou> Guys, i have nscd installed on a linux who launched in nfsroot mode, to run thunderbird and all application who need cache daemon. But nscd fail to launch at start, and it necessary to load on the terminal in sudo root mode
[14:16] <Nakou> anyone know how to fix that and make it auto
[14:16] <Sidewinder1> Norwack, Then try 10.04, that's what I'm currently using and love it; it will be supported for the next year or two. :-)
[14:16] <Nakou> ?
[14:17] <yeats> Norwack: which linux?
[14:17] <Nakou> (Linux 11.04)
[14:17] <yeats> Norwack: sorry - meant for Nakou
[14:17] <Norwack> CaptainKnots: Is it possible to install Mint beside of windows=
[14:17] <Norwack> ?
[14:17] <CaptainKnots> Norwack: yes
[14:17] <CaptainKnots> grub will detect the windows loader and chainload
[14:17] <bekks> Norwack: Thats a good question for the mint support channel ;)
[14:17] <yousifabdullah> norwack: easiest is with cygwin
[14:18] <amit> ??
[14:18] <zak_> how do I pass parameters to kernel at boot in 11.10 server?
[14:18] <Sidewinder1> Norwack, 10.04, you will not be disappointed, I promise. :D
[14:18] <amit> any uidea??
[14:18] <Norwack> is it like 11?
[14:19] <gmzlj> phrik: disapprove is<reply>ಠ_ಠ
[14:19] <yeats> amit: try opening a terminal and typing 'nautilus'
[14:19] <Sidewinder1> Norwack, Please see here for the different versions and how long they're supported: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29
[14:19] <Sidewinder1> Norwack, 10.04 is Gnome2; nut unity!
[14:20] <Sidewinder1> not, even, but I guess they both work.. :-)
[14:20] <amit> yeats, it opens but when i open anything using dash or using any app it says the error
[14:20] <amit> When I try to open a folder using dash or applications it shows.. Failed to execute default File Manager.
[14:20] <yeats> amit: what have you changed?
[14:20] <Norwack> so where can i get 10.04?
[14:20] <xangua> from ubuntu.com Norwack
[14:20] <Nakou> so? for my nscd problem?
[14:20] <yeats> !10.04 | Norwack
[14:21] <amit> yeats, in transmission I was trying to open a file directly there I typed nautilus.. the problem started from that
[14:21] <zak_> I need to pass a parameter to the kernel at boot. How (where) do I enter this in 11.10 server?
[14:21] <dr_willis> amit:  i recall the ubuntu-tweak (not officially supported) had a 'reset gnome settings' feature
[14:21] <Norwack> I Want to install that 10.04 beside windows
[14:21] <Sidewinder1> Norwack, http://torrent.ubuntu.com/ Don't forget to Md5sum the ISO, prior to burning at the slowest speed.
[14:22] <dr_willis> zak_:  the grub2 config files. /etc/default/grub
[14:22] <amit> dr_willis, ok trying that
[14:22] <llutz> zak_: edit /etc/default/grub , add your parameter and run update-grub
[14:22] <zak_> dr_willis, llutz thanks!
[14:22] <Sidewinder1> Norwack, Also have a look here for a step-by-step: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index
[14:22] <Nakou> zak_: You can create a new file, the number on the title made the order of launch in the grub menu
[14:22] <Nakou> or editing
[14:23] <Nakou> see wat you need
[14:23] <Sidewinder1> Norwack, But don't go anywhere near WUBI!
[14:23] <canterer> checking for tgetent in -lcurses... no
[14:23] <canterer> no terminal library found
[14:23] <canterer> checking for tgetent()... configure: error: NOT FOUND!
[14:23] <canterer>       You need to install a terminal library; for example ncurses.
[14:23] <canterer>       Or specify the name of the library with --with-tlib.
[14:23] <FloodBot1> canterer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:23] <canterer> make[1]: *** [config] 错误 1
[14:23] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[14:24] <Norwack> whats wrong with wubi?
[14:24] <jjgalvez__> axisys: install imagemagic and give the command comvert <file.jpg> -quality 75 <newname.jpb>  a try, you can play with the quality factor to see what gives you the best quality/size
[14:24] <Sidewinder1> Norwack, What you're lookin' for is Dual Boot.
[14:24] <canterer> I am installing the vim
[14:24] <axisys> jjgalvez__: installed imagemagick.. let me try the command
[14:24] <canterer> but  when I  make
[14:24] <canterer> have the wrong
[14:24] <yeats> canterer: try 'sudo apt-get install vim'
[14:25] <jjgalvez__> axisys: you can always write a quick shell script to grep through all the pictures if that gives you want you need
[14:25] <canterer> I have load the package
[14:25] <axisys> jjgalvez__: yep
[14:25] <amit> dr_willis, yeats  still not working
[14:25] <Sidewinder1> BluesKaj, Mornin'.!
[14:25] <canterer> yeats:  I have load the package
[14:25] <canterer> and  I ./configer
[14:25] <amit> Failed to execute child process "nautilius" (No such file or directory).
[14:25] <BluesKaj> hi Sidewinder1
[14:26] <yeats> canterer: why are you building vim from source?
[14:26] <canterer> and  when the step : make I do
[14:26] <Sidewinder1> Norwack, Just ask BluesKaj about WUBI.. ;-)
[14:26] <norpan> Cant get my Ubuntu to boot without NOAPIC NOLAPIC bootparameters, why is that? What can i do? I only see 1 core in ubuntu aswell, im using a i7 quad!
[14:26] <canterer> I have a package of vim
[14:26] <like_summer> Firedog,  i ear some ago
[14:26] <canterer> so  I should  install it
[14:26] <Sidewinder1> BluesKaj, Don't you just love how I volunteer your help? :p
[14:26] <norpan> amit: nautilius? whats that?
[14:26] <yeats> canterer: I don't understand - is there a reason you're installing vim from source rather than just installing the repo version?
[14:27] <canterer> unzip --->  ./configure ---> make
[14:27] <amit> mistyped!\
[14:27] <amit> how can I correct that?
[14:27] <BluesKaj> Sidewinder1, yeah :)
[14:27] <canterer> yeats : not the repo version
[14:27] <jjgalvez__> norpan: laptop or desktop, I had an older dell that did the same thing, not that I have any real insight into the problem
[14:27] <like_summer> Firedog,  why did you thank me
[14:27] <Norwack> omg
[14:27] <BluesKaj> Norwack, first time ubuntu user ?
[14:27] <norpan> jjgalvez__: im using a desktop!
[14:27] <Norwack> im outta here
[14:27] <Sidewinder1> BluesKaj, A guy's gotta' have some fun.. :)
[14:28] <yeats> canterer: I'll ask again... why are you not using the repo version?
[14:28] <canterer> ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unix/vim-7.3.tar.bz2
[14:28] <canterer> yeats :  I want to improv the vim
[14:28] <jjgalvez__> norpan: have you tried changing the power settings in your bios?
[14:28] <like_summer> blue_bomber,  yes i am new
[14:29] <norpan> jjgalvez__: i have, but i cant really find anything usefull in there, i cant find anything that has the name APIC in it for example
[14:29] <norpan> jjgalvez__: Other then that i dont know what to look for
[14:29] <canterer> yeats: so I can have a envirment  that can siut to my develop
[14:29] <Sidewinder1> BluesKaj, He wants to dual boot with 10.04, doesn't care for unity; imagine that..
[14:30] <Sidewinder1> Norwack, Goog Luck!
[14:30] <like_summer> it's 22:30 now .
[14:30] <BluesKaj> Norwack, what about clasic gnome
[14:30] <Sidewinder1> Good, even..
[14:30] <like_summer> will you sleep now /
[14:30] <norpan> jjgalvez__: and as far as i know, isnt acpi power management? its booting when i disable the APIC, wich i dont really know that it does hah
[14:30] <norpan> jjgalvez__: what* it dies
[14:30] <norpan> DOES*
[14:31]  * like_summer 跳一下
[14:31] <jjgalvez__> norpan: yes APIC is power managment
[14:31] <Norwack> I Have used ubuntu many times, but doesnt like the new fuckin layout, lol
[14:31] <Norwack> and i want debian, but aint on my own internet for a few months
[14:31] <amit> help anyone!!
[14:31] <jjgalvez__> so does it boot when you disable APIC from the bios?
[14:31] <norpan> jjgalvez__: oh, both acpi and apic is power management? i didnt know that
[14:31] <amit> Failed to execute child process "nautilius" (No such file or directory).
[14:32] <Laurenceb> hi
[14:32] <Sidewinder1> !language > Now
[14:32] <Firedog> norpan: still no luck with the multi-core CPU?
[14:32] <aegisx> This isn't an Ubuntu specific question, but is there a way to hide connection / disconnection notifications permanently?
[14:32] <norpan> Firedog: no :(
[14:32] <Laurenceb> how much data does reads only drive benchmarking exchange?
[14:32] <Nakou> On the rc#.d/, the process with a letter like "K20-process" were killed at this state?
[14:32] <jjgalvez__> amit: have you installed or removed any packages recently? because it looks like you don't have nautilus, on your system. try running it from a terminal
[14:32] <Sidewinder1> !language > Norwack
[14:32] <BluesKaj> Norwack, you'll just have to make upyour own mind what you want to do. I use KDE myself
[14:32] <Firedog> norpan: what are you using to discern if it is working on one core or more?
[14:33] <norpan> Firedog: some cpuinfo command and the regular systemmonitor
[14:33] <amit> jigalvez_, I do have nauilus.. I typed buy accident nauilius in transmission while oopening a file
[14:33] <Firedog> norpan: so you are in the desktop and see only one graph for cpu cores right?
[14:33] <norpan> Firedog: pm me instead, its an ocean of messages here and i check now and then..im cleaing my appartment :P
[14:33] <Norwack> wow, this sucks. On another IRC they learn people to use the word "Fu**"..But its a irc for cool people tho
[14:34] <Sidewinder1> BluesKaj, I already suggested 10.04; he could also use 11.04 with classic.
[14:34] <norpan> Firedog: yes and in cpuinfo i only see one core aswell
[14:35] <jjgalvez__> amit: Oh so do you still have tranmission running?
[14:35] <amit> yeah
[14:35] <BluesKaj> Sidewinder1, he doesn't have any real problems IMO , he's just not sure what to do
[14:35] <Nakou> On the rc#.d/, the process with a letter like "K20-process" were killed at this state?
[14:35] <newb> Helo all! I've updated my Oneiric system and My Gnome 3.2 stopped working with Mutter. My /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe has fbdev how driver. I've changed to intel but do not worked yet. I think my XOrg disabled the correct support. Somebody can Help me with this? My PC is an ASUS EEEPC 1005-HA netbook.
[14:35] <jjgalvez__> amit: or rather is it still trying to serve nautilus ? I would try shutting tansmission down
[14:36] <amit> jjgalvez__, closing it did nothing
[14:36] <Laurenceb> im getting a too slow to benchmark error
[14:36] <amit> perhaps transmission set it as default or somethng
[14:36] <Laurenceb> is there a command line benchmark tool?
[14:36] <jjgalvez__> amit: not sure what you mean?
[14:36] <Sidewinder1> BluesKaj, No, no problems; his original question was could he download Hardy 'caise he didn't like unity; that's when I suggested Lucid. :-)
[14:37] <Sidewinder1> 'cause, even.
[14:38]  * BluesKaj has to bone up on gnome desktop options
[14:38] <yeats> canterer: vim from source will behave the same as vim from the repos... customizing happens in /etc/vim/vimrc (system-wide) or ~/.bashrc for just your user
[14:38]  * Sidewinder1 coffe.
[14:39] <dr_willis> ~/.vimrc
[14:39] <yeats> canterer: if you're committed to building from source, I would do 'sudo apt-get build-dep vim' before continuing
[14:39] <yeats> dr_willis: right - typo
[14:39] <yeats> canterer: yes - I meant ~/.vimrc
[14:39] <dr_willis> I doubt if theres any major new vim features. :)
[14:40] <yeats> !pm | canterer
[14:41] <like_summer> help
[14:41] <jjgalvez__> amit: try looking at this https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=64832 to see if it helps
[14:42] <dr_willis> like_summer:  it helps to give details..
[14:42] <like_summer> its time to sleep
[14:43] <like_summer> dr_willis,  it does not help me
[14:43] <canterer> what is the mean of  PM?
[14:43] <wakejagr> canterer: private message
[14:44] <canterer> ah  I know
[14:44] <tarzeau> canterer: dict PM will tell
[14:44] <pw-toxic> hi, i'm missing workspaces on gnome3 on ubuntu ;(
[14:44] <pw-toxic> how can i reactivate it?
[14:44] <tarzeau> pw-toxic: you can use any other window manager?
[14:44] <tarzeau> windowmaker has workspaces
[14:44] <pw-toxic> tarzeau, gnome has none anymore?
[14:45] <tarzeau> i don't know. you really mean gnome3 or unity or gnome2?
[14:45] <pw-toxic> i just did "apt-get install gnome" and chose "gnome" on startup
[14:45] <BluesKaj> !classic| Norwack
[14:45] <pw-toxic> so i guess i have gnome3
[14:45] <pw-toxic> i do not like unity
[14:45] <tarzeau> i also have a problem that unity is horribly slow, even with correct nvidia drivers. and with two monitors it's slower and with 3 monitors very very slow, 4 monitors so slow you can't work
[14:45] <pw-toxic> there is no "connect to" application ;)
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> pw-toxic: what do you want to connect to?
[14:46] <tarzeau> pw-toxic: neither do i. but then i don't like gnome either. and not kde
[14:46] <pw-toxic> ActionParsnip, anything.. ftp ssh windows share.. just anything
[14:46] <tarzeau> pw-toxic: i'm glad when i get a terminal
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> pw-toxic: its part of nautilus..
[14:46] <pw-toxic> tarzeau, a terminal is nice, but not for every task ;)
[14:46] <tarzeau> pw-toxic: you want a mac or windows then. the connect to stuff never worked for me on linux
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> pw-toxic: under the file menu
[14:47] <tarzeau> pw-toxic: i don't see an alternative on linux. no nautilus is plain junk
[14:47] <tarzeau> consier having nfs drives, and say 10000 files. it's unusable
[14:47] <pw-toxic> whatever ... im looking for workspaces ;)
[14:47] <tarzeau> hekc it's even unusable with only 1000 files
[14:47] <pw-toxic> does gnome3 have no workspaces anymore? i think i would have read about it
[14:47] <tarzeau> and here we have users with 1000000 files
[14:47] <tarzeau> (one user)
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> pw-toxic: sure, you control how many in ccsm if you use unity (not 2d)
[14:48] <pw-toxic> ActionParsnip, ah i forgot.. i have ccsm
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> tarzeau: try pcmanfm, rox, dolphin, thunar or one of the MANY file managers...
[14:48] <tarzeau> ActionParsnip: oh i know them, i tried them. i didn't like them
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> tarzeau: if they work though yuo may have to
[14:49] <tarzeau> ActionParsnip: all of them are slow, clumsy, and file open dialogs in gtk1, 2 and 3 are wrong bad and broken
[14:49] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, think we have a troll
[14:49] <tarzeau> ActionParsnip: i'm perfectly fine with a terminal, thank you
[14:49] <pw-toxic> ActionParsnip, i have enabled Desktop wall in ccsm but it doesnt work ;/
[14:50] <pw-toxic> ActionParsnip, i relog with unit and try it there
[14:51] <Firedog> norpan: are you getting my pm?
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> tarzeau: thats another option :)
[14:51] <tarzeau> ActionParsnip: the only, imho
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> pw-toxic: there is a key to show all the desktops and you can drag windows between easily
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> pw-toxic: I only use one desktop so am not sure what it is but I'm sure it exists
[14:52] <Firedog> ActionParsnip: sounds like a mac thing, was it MOD-E
[14:53] <Firedog> no, can't drag windows with Mod-E or Winkey-E
[14:54] <Firedog> but you can with compiz cube
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> pw-toxic: it's called expo, and as Firedog stated it's SuperL+E
[14:55] <pw-toxic> hmm moving workspaces works on unity ;/
[14:55] <pw-toxic> bt i want gnome ;(
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> pw-toxic: you are using gnome
[14:55] <Firedog> dont we all
[14:55] <pw-toxic> ActionParsnip, yes i am
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> pw-toxic: unity is only a shell
[14:55] <flexd> Argh, what do I need to check if norwegian characters work fine as root but as a normal user it fails (I just get ???) characters.
[14:55] <pw-toxic> ActionParsnip, whatever.. i chose gnome an logon and i want worksapces ;)
[14:56] <flexd> locale is set to en_US.UTF-8 on both users
[14:56] <pw-toxic> ActionParsnip, workspaces is the most reason why i use ubuntu ;)
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> pw-toxic: you can use the expos plugin to show them
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> pw-toxic: you can get equivelant functionality in windows
[14:56] <dr_willis> unity has workspaces.. actually ive seen tools for windows to give it workspaces...
[14:56] <Firedog> pw-toxic: workspaces are a function of desktop not OS so GNOME, KDE, XFCE all support them
[14:56] <dr_willis> :)
[14:57] <dr_willis> Does OS-X have workspaces?
[14:57] <pw-toxic> Firedog, why does it then work on unity but not gnome?
[14:57] <Firedog> dr_willis: I beleive so
[14:57] <pw-toxic> Firedog, when i logon with gnome, my keyboard shortcuts "alt+q" and "alt+e" dont work to switch left and right
[14:57] <dr_willis> The Cube thang has issues with unity i belive.. best to just stop using teh cube.
[14:58] <norpan> Firedog: i was doing some dishes, im sorry if i missed you. did not mean to be disrespectful :)
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> do people still use the cube plugin...wow
[14:58] <Firedog> dr_willis: I love the cube so much I am stuck with gnome :P
[14:58] <dr_willis> I never saw the point in the cube...
[14:58] <dr_willis> get over it Firedog . :P
[14:58] <dr_willis> cube. the kind of thing you enable to show off.. then disable when your windows using friends leave.
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> Firedog: I believe kde has desktop cube stuff too
[14:59] <republic> good evening anyone! happy chatting!!!
[14:59] <norpan> republic: haha good evening to you to :P
[14:59] <pw-toxic> ActionParsnip, ah good idea - i try out kde if my desktop wall works there
[15:02] <tomek_> anyone uses solaris ?
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> tomek_: try the solaris channel
[15:02] <mahdi1364> hi
[15:02] <gxoptg> mahdi1364, hi
[15:03] <deej1976> tomek_: dauble a little
[15:03] <mahdi1364> I have a problem in ubuntu 11.10
[15:03] <deej1976> tomek_: pm me
[15:04] <gxoptg> mahdi1364, so tell about it
[15:04] <vemens> )
[15:04] <mahdi1364> when I login, the desktop wont load, just the terminal screen shows up
[15:05] <canterer> yeats> canterer: if you're committed to building from source, I would do 'sudo apt-get build-dep vim' before continuing   thanks  fun:)  my question is solved
[15:05] <gxoptg> vemens, hi
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> mahdi1364: what if you log in as another user?
[15:05] <mahdi1364> the same
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> mandi-kembang: what if you select the 2D unity?
[15:06] <vemens> hi gxoptg :)
[15:07] <mahdi1364> please help me
[15:07] <pw-toxic> ActionParsnip, gnome3 only has up and down workspace switching, and i was trying to switch horizontally
[15:07] <cipherboy> mahdi1364 we are...?
[15:07] <gxoptg> mandi1364, what if you select the 2D unity?
[15:07] <cipherboy> mahdi1364 We have given you a few suggestions, why don't you try and post back?
[15:08] <mahdi1364> maybe this information helps u
[15:09] <mahdi1364> I uninstalled compiz and that's when this problem showed up
[15:09] <homegrown> I'm looking to migrate to subversion 1.7, but cannot find any official packages ... why so far behind?
[15:10] <gxoptg> mahdi1364, ubuntu 3d is based on Compis :) try to load Unity 2d
[15:10] <mahdi1364> how do I do that?
[15:10] <mahdi1364> I'm new to ubuntu
[15:10] <Pici> homegrown: Because we don't upgrade packages unless they are security fixes once an Ubuntu release has been finished.
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> mahdi1364: its an option when you log in
[15:11] <dr_willis> why would you uninstall compiz when you are new to the whole os?
[15:11] <Pici> homegrown: And I don't see 1.7 even in debian yet or the in-development release of Ubuntu.  You could try looking for a PPA if you really need it though.
[15:11] <blognewb> hi everyone, i wanted to buy my mom an ubuntu laptop, can you guys suggest one that is worth around $300-$400? preferably with at least an i3?
[15:12] <mahdi1364> must have been a mistake, dont be mad:-/
[15:12] <homegrown> Pici: Thanks, but it's going to be production, so I'd rather have it stable.... might have to stick to BSD for now then :-(
[15:13] <mahdi1364> thanks for ur help I gonna try 2D unity
[15:13] <mahdi1364> babye
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> blognewb  ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:17] <Firedog> ActionParsnip: belated, yes KDE can :)
[15:17] <yeats> canterer: great! happy to help
[15:17] <vikashrokk> can we install gnome 3.2 on ubuntu 10.10
[15:17] <vikashrokk> ????
[15:18] <tensorpudding> no
[15:18] <yeats> vikashrokk: why not just upgrade to 11.10?
[15:18] <tensorpudding> upgrade to 11.10
[15:18] <vikashrokk> i upgraded but
[15:18] <mandi-kembang> ActionParsnip: what are the advantages of 2D unity?
[15:18] <dr_willis> you use is when you cant get 3d working mandi-kembang  :)
[15:18] <vikashrokk> i hav another os ultimate edition which runs on 10.10
[15:19] <tensorpudding> vikashrokk, then upgrade that too
[15:19] <Firedog> dr_willis: only I keep the cube there because it still makes me smile, and I can sneak a look at whats going on on other desktops before switching as they are live updated
[15:20] <Firedog> only the taskbar is not updated
[15:20] <vikashrokk> but then it will not support other oses which run with it like lubuntu and xcfe
[15:20] <dr_willis> the whole desktop idea has sort of been getting revamped in gnome shell and unity.
[15:21] <vikashrokk> dr willis ..true man i loved gnome 3
[15:22] <vikashrokk> hey anybody tell the best media manager for ubuntu
[15:22] <dr_willis> vikashrokk:  what kind of medis
[15:22] <dr_willis> media
[15:22] <Firedog> dr_willis: I wish they would settle on a standard an quit changing it all the time so I can  stop re-learning stuff I already know how to do
[15:22] <dr_willis> Firedog:  then we would still be in the Win2.1 days....
[15:22] <vikashrokk> i m looking for the one which easily gets album covers and organises media folders..i m talking about mp3s
[15:23] <Firedog> dr_willis: ah win2.1 :P no, not that old hehe
[15:23] <dr_willis> C64 Geos. :P
[15:23] <Sidewinder1> dr_willis, Or 3.11 workgroups. :-)
[15:23] <MarkLuke> i need help with a wm 8650 ntablet i got from china
[15:23] <vikashrokk> wat is dis 3.11??
[15:24] <andrew91831> how do i install a pkg file in linux ?
[15:24] <Firedog> dr_willis: as a kid, 8 bit machines, yes but never bothered with windows 2!
[15:24] <dr_willis> andrew91831:  you mean a foo.deb file? or a foo.pkg ? or what excactly
[15:24] <andrew91831> a foo.pkg
[15:24] <Sidewinder1> vikashrokk, Just a snide comment; please disregard.
[15:24] <dr_willis> Firedog:  i used Vic-20 and other C= stuff.
[15:24] <dr_willis> andrew91831:  where did this come from? ubuntu stuff is normally .deb
[15:25] <andrew91831> oh im downloading node.js on linux
[15:25] <andrew91831> but i dont know how to install pkg ><
[15:25] <MarkLuke> can anybody help me with the wm8650 appmarketand flash problem
[15:25] <Firedog> dr_willis: vic20, that was basic, I saved an old Texas Instruments machine from silicon heaven a few years back. It's mint.
[15:26] <andrew91831> oh nevermind
[15:26] <andrew91831> haha, embarassing
[15:26] <andrew91831> i've got quicksynergy on and im using my linux box trying to install the mac version
[15:27] <Firedog> dr_willis: http://oldcomputers.net/pics/ticosbyad.jpg heheh
[15:28] <remoteCTRL> hi guys!
[15:28] <vikashrokk> hi
[15:28] <chad-tara> hello
[15:28] <vikashrokk> wad up remote ctrl
[15:28] <remoteCTRL> i got these ugly graphic artefacts when trying to use gnome3 can you pls tell me how to fix this?
[15:28] <chad-tara> Ive got a question about my bootloader options if anyone can help. im pretty new to linux... :(
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> remoteCTRL: are you using any shells?
[15:29] <remoteCTRL> the fonts in the "menu bar" are completely distorted...
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> chad-tara: shoot
[15:29] <remoteCTRL> ActionParsnip: erm... gnome-sehll?
[15:29] <remoteCTRL> i hope?
[15:29] <remoteCTRL> ActionParsnip: good to see you btw, hope all is fine?
[15:29] <cari_veri_ud> hello, ubuntu 11.10 xorg.conf is very thin. almost no settings made in there. problem: secondary screen not detectable. what can I do?
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> remoteCTRL: looks like this? http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Screenshots
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> remoteCTRL: not bad, chillin at work
[15:30] <chad-tara> I have both 32 bit and 64 but 11.10 installed on my system. when I start up there are about 8 options to boot from. I know I shouldnt boot into recovery but which option is 64 and witch is 32?
[15:30] <chad-tara> is it the 3.0.0.12 or 3.0.0.13 or the PAE?
[15:31] <remoteCTRL> ActionParsnip: i guess that is what it should look like, in my case i have the purple background, looking nomral and then the bar with the "action", clock, etc is grey instead of black and everything in it is totally distorted
[15:31] <linda_> chad-tara: I don't there's a difference other than kernel versions.  (Someone correct me if wrong.)
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> remoteCTRL: what if you press ALT+F2 and run:  gnome-shell --replace
[15:32] <linda_> chad-tara: Oh, well, you have a dual boot system?
[15:32] <linda_> Is that correct?
[15:32] <chad-tara> \yeah
[15:33] <Firedog> remoteCTRL: I saw a car once and thought it had been in an accident, turns out that was the way it was "designed" to look
[15:33] <chad-tara> I installed both 64bit and 32 bit versions
[15:33] <tamayo> hola
[15:33] <imbezol> bonjour
[15:33] <chad-tara> which kernel comes with what relese? i never installed a custom kernel
[15:34] <linda_> chad-tara: We would have to see the exact names of the 8 options before we can tell anything about it.
[15:35] <chad-tara> ubuntu 3.0.0.12 (both normal and recovery)
[15:35] <chad-tara> ubuntu 3.0.0.12 (both normal and recovery)
[15:35] <chad-tara> i mean *.13
[15:35] <linda_> chad-tara: Or someone that has a stock 64bit system may be able to give you their kernel version, but may very well be that the version numbers are same.
[15:36] <chad-tara> and then the two PEA options
[15:36] <chad-tara> *PAE
[15:36] <fm__> PAE is 32 bit
[15:37] <chad-tara> i figured that out. thats the server kernel that lets me use all 4 gigs or ram?
[15:37] <remoteCTRL> ActionParsnip: erm... looking even worse now
[15:37] <cygnusnsf> Hi, all any body aware of install instructions for a EPSON SX435W Printer on UBUNTU 10.04 LTS? I can see the printer but just only ever finds a sx415 driver and does not work properly
[15:37] <goshawk> hi
[15:37] <remoteCTRL> and the worst thing about is; this is definitely NOT the first device that does that to me!
[15:37] <linda_> chad-tara: They will all lst you use all 4G of RAM
[15:38] <goshawk> i can't connect to facebook via empathy, does anyone have the same problem?
[15:38] <remoteCTRL> ActionParsnip: btw alt+f2 doenst work at all...
[15:38] <remoteCTRL> goshawk: be happy about it!
[15:38] <chad-tara> is it better for me to just install the 64 bit version? I dont use alot of apps. mostly internet movies and music
[15:38] <cipherboy> remoteCTRL++
[15:38] <remoteCTRL> goshawk: farcebook sells your data to government organisations!
[15:39] <remoteCTRL> chad-tara: not much difference nowadays there
[15:39] <Pici> !ot
[15:39] <Norwack> join #UbuntuPorn
[15:39] <Firedog> chad-tara: in linux chose 64 bit if you have a 64 bit CPU
[15:39] <linda_> chad-tara: YOu dreally didn't need to install 32bit version alongside the 64bit version.  All you need to do is install 32bit libs on the 64bit version and you can run all the 32bit apps you want.
[15:40] <chad-tara> any downside to running 32 bit on 64 bit system? Am I wasting resources
[15:40] <mao> I set the CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV "converse" when compile the kernel,but after I boot the ubuntu,the cpu freq default govener becomes "ondemand", and i cannont find which process change it
[15:40] <cipherboy> norwack you need more peoples
[15:40] <mao> Anyone knows why?
[15:40] <Firedog> chad-tara: yes, 64 bit performs better on 64 bit CPU
[15:40] <cipherboy> Firedog can 64bit even run on 32 bit processor?
[15:41] <chad-tara> thanks... gonna just start fresh and install only the 64 bit
[15:41] <Firedog> cipherboy: no 64 bit will not run on 32 bit CPU
[15:42] <linda_> chad-tara: I think the command is   apt-get install ia32-libs
[15:42] <chad-tara> thanks (:
[15:42] <Firedog> but 32 bit will run on 64 bit CPU which is the converse to my argument, not the other-way-round
[15:42] <dr_willis> i basically only use 64bit os on my 64bit hardware these days
[15:42] <frankperez87> Has anyone installed uplink on ubuntu 11.10 using the .sh file
[15:42] <remoteCTRL> ActionParsnip: phunny thing is: at the login screen all looks perfectly normal but as soon as i am logged in all looks broken
[15:42] <chad-tara> so everyone agrees I will get a bit better performance from my machine if I give up the 32bit and just use the 64 bit?
[15:43] <Firedog> dr_willis: is right, there is no need for 32 bit except in windows
[15:43] <dr_willis> use 64bit os on 64bit hardware....
[15:43] <Firedog> ^^ what he said
[15:43] <chad-tara> thanks guys! you're all AWESOME
[15:43] <linda_> chad-tara:  YOu don't have to start over, just use the 64bit
[15:43] <chad-tara> I feel so lost. I havent used Linux since Dapper Drake
[15:44] <Firedog> ahh dapper drake :P
[15:44] <chad-tara> anyway to just erase the 32 bit system?
[15:44] <dr_willis> delete the partitions :)
[15:44] <Firedog> install windows??
[15:44] <Firedog> joking
[15:44] <chad-tara> thats it? cool. then reformat?
[15:45] <linda_> chad-tara: You can use a partition manager to delete or shrink the 32bit partition(s).
[15:45] <chad-tara> I just left windows cause it was freezing ALL THE TIME
[15:45] <bekks> chad-tara: "man rm"
[15:45] <chad-tara> thanks linda
[15:45] <linda_> I didn't know windows was that cold....
[15:45] <chad-tara> super cold...
[15:45] <Firedog> chad-tara: what linda says about partition manager, may save you some time
[15:45] <mahdi1364> hi
[15:46] <mahdi1364> i'm back again
[15:46] <chad-tara> always f****d me and never smiled...
[15:46] <linda_> chad-tara: Which did you install first?  64bit or 32bit?
[15:46] <chad-tara> 32 bit...
[15:46] <mahdi1364> I just wanted to thank u for ur help
[15:46] <mahdi1364> can I ask one more question?
[15:46] <chad-tara> cause its "recommended" on the website :/
[15:47] <oCean> chad-tara: please mind your language. If you have to obfuscate your words, then don't use them.
[15:47] <chad-tara> k. i didnt know a more appropriate word
[15:47] <linda_> chad-tara: I would just shrink the 32bit partition(s) down to just a few megabytes.
[15:47] <xorrbit> is there a way to allow a user to configure network interfaces, ie run ifconfig and ip commands, without sudo-ing them?
[15:47] <greves> hello - I've just bought a new computer and will install windows 7 on it, but i'd like to dual boot ubuntu. i have a 1GB drive and will MAINLY use windows 7, what would be a good partition scheme for me?
[15:47] <Firedog> chad-tara: the website reccommends it becasue 32 bit will work on 64 bit and 32 bit Hardware, 64 bit will only work on 64 bit hardware and above? presuming there is one
[15:48] <linda_> chad-tara: That way, you don't have to change the partitioning IDs on your 64bit system.
[15:48] <Firedog> and here's the smile :)
[15:48] <cygnusnsf> chad-tara maybe a alternate word could be windows "gated" you?????
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> mahdi1364: ask away, no need to ask
[15:48] <mahdi1364> ok
[15:49] <mahdi1364> look
[15:49] <mahdi1364> I've got a HSPAData Card USB modem
[15:49] <linda_> mahdi1364: What ActionParsnip is trying to say is, don't ask to ask, just ask.
[15:50] <mahdi1364> is there an application so that I can send and recieve call and sms in ubuntu?
[15:50] <greves> anyone have any suggestions? is it easy enough to just use win7 partition as most of the drive and then any big files i'm downloading in ubuntu to save&run from windows partition?
[15:50] <linda_> mahdi1364: sms is just email.
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> mahdi1364  gammu
[15:51] <linda_> mahdi1364: but I don't know what you mean about "send and receive call"
[15:52] <Firedog> linda_: is sms just email? I thought it was Short Messaging Service used by cellular networks to mobile devices under the GSM suite of protocols
[15:52] <linda_> mahdi1364: Are you talking about VOIP?   If so, skype, for instance, will call and receive calls and send SMS to cell phones. (But again, any email client can send sms txt to cell phones.)
[15:52] <mahdi1364> I've got gammu but it only recognizes phones not my HSPAData card
[15:52] <linda_> mahdi1364: There is also google-talk
[15:52] <broglin> i'm having trouble getting my ethernet card to work properly. currently ping drops lots of packets. It's a realtek rtl8111/8168b on the motherboard and I have changed the driver to the realtek on, but that didn't help
[15:53] <broglin> any ideas on what to try?
[15:53] <broglin> the main problem is that it's very very very slow at the moment
[15:53] <Firedog> broglin: there is a chance that the "card" is broken
[15:53] <broglin> Firedog: true
[15:54] <Firedog> broglin: I had the same issue with a 3com card and replaced it like for like and the new one worked
[15:54] <broglin> Firedog: i'm not sure how i'd test that though...
[15:54] <mahdi1364> I'm a bit confused
[15:54] <Firedog> it would work but lots of dropouts
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> mahdi1364: how does it connect to the system?
[15:54] <mahdi1364> Action Parsnip:by USB
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> broglin: try disabling ipv6 if you don't use it, also try a different cable
[15:55] <Firedog> broglin: boot another OS which should work like windows, does it work there?
[15:55] <mahdi1364> Ita a 3g usb modem
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> mahdi1364: then run:  lsusb   one line will identify the device and you can use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[15:55] <mahdi1364> ok
[15:55] <mahdi1364> thanks
[15:55] <anon> f
[15:56] <anon> s
[15:56] <Firedog> broglin: extending ActionParsnip's logic, check the port at the other end too
[15:56] <Frankzinbuh> hey guys, is there a web developer channel here somewhere?
[15:57] <Firedog> On IRC? I can almost guarantee it
[15:57] <Frankzinbuh> on this irc
[15:57] <oCean> !alis | Frankzinbuh
[15:58] <keyboard> is where heroes3 for linux?
[15:59] <remoteCTRL> ActionParsnip: i guess youre also out of ideas?
[15:59] <keyboard> hi every one...
[15:59] <Firedog> keyboard: Hi Dr Nick
[16:00] <keyboard> Firedog, :)is where a heroes3 for linux?
[16:01] <Firedog> good question if somewhat cryptic.
[16:01] <Firedog> keyboard: I do not know what heroes3 is.
[16:01] <linda_> Frankzinbuh: Are you interested in a CMS
[16:01] <linda_> ?
[16:01] <jimmysparkle> hey all - I'm using vmware fusion and I've added a couple of network adapters to my vm, how do I get them working and enable them in ubuntu server?
[16:02] <keyboard> Firedog, heroes3 is game
[16:02] <Firedog> keyboard: have you tried linuxgames?
[16:02] <goshawk> remoteCTRL, i asked a different thing
[16:02] <keyboard> Firedog, no,for windows game...
[16:03] <canterer> what is mean  like this  with ubuntu ---->  -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1772412 2011-11-25 23:36 vim*
[16:03] <Firedog> keyboard: if it is a windows game then the wine database winedb may help
[16:03] <keyboard> Firedog, i find a heroes3 for linux ..
[16:03] <canterer> vim*
[16:03] <canterer> '*' is what  ?
[16:03] <keyboard> Firedog, but....i not like wine...
[16:03] <linda_> canterer: It means that the owner has read write and executable permissions, other users have read ahd executable permissons.
[16:04] <linda_> *and not ahd
[16:04] <Sidewinder1> What program do I need to download/install, in order to read a file in root (/var/log_, named 'wtmp'? Or will System-->Administration-->Log File Viewer, do the trick? TIA..
[16:04] <canterer> not the permissons   I want to kown the '*'
[16:04] <canterer> vim*
[16:04] <Firedog> keyboard: http://www.lokigames.com/products/heroes3/
[16:05] <linda_> canterer: You want to know what vim is?
[16:05] <canterer> *
[16:05] <Firedog> google is your fiend :P
[16:05] <deej1976> !info vim
[16:05] <linda_> canterer: vim is a text editor
[16:05] <deej1976> !info vi
[16:06] <harrryyy> i like cake.
[16:06] <Firedog> nice
[16:06] <linda_> canterer: vim is a text editor specially geared for programmers. It's good for html and lots of uses, it's ok for regular text files too.
[16:06] <harrryyy> cake > linux
[16:06] <keyboard> Firedog, tks a lot...:)
[16:06] <oCean> harrryyy: please stay on topic
[16:06] <Firedog> keyboard: wine is awesome btw
[16:07] <linda_> !info vim
[16:07] <canterer> thanks  but I want to kown about vim* but not vim
[16:07] <genii-around> Sidewinder1: last -f /var/log/wtmp
[16:08] <canterer> crw-rw----   1 root tty       7, 132 2011-11-25 10:10 vcsa4
[16:08] <linda_> canterer: If vim is a file on your computer you can investigate for yourself.  First do  file vim
[16:08] <canterer> like this
[16:08] <zjhui> hello everyone , what do i need to do if want to downgrade the system?
[16:08] <canterer> vcsa4  is not vcsa4*
[16:08] <soreau> Frankzinbuh: #html, #css, #javascript, #php, $jquery, etc.
[16:08] <linda_> canterer: The command file will determine the file type.
[16:08] <soreau> hmm.. a little late
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> !downgrade| zjhui
[16:09] <linda_> canterer: file vsca4
[16:09] <canterer> vim ?
[16:10] <linda_> canterer: file vim
[16:10] <canterer> is a command
[16:10] <Sidewinder1> genii-around, Many tanks; will try..
[16:10] <linda_> canterer: which vim
[16:10] <canterer> but vim* and vsca4
[16:10] <zjhui> ubottu: but i think we can use some methord to downgrade the system also it has some risks
[16:11] <linda_> canterer: See my pm
[16:11] <Firedog> zjhui: it is possible in some cases but a reinstall would be most sensible to prevent issues
[16:11] <broglin> Firedog: thanks, it was the other end :)
[16:11] <Firedog> hehe
[16:11] <Firedog> win
[16:11] <Firedog> :)
[16:12] <ronald> hey friends :)
[16:12] <ronald> Does anyone in here still use dial up bbses?
[16:12] <zykotick9__> zjhui, FYI apt does not deal with downgrading very well (sometimes not at all) - reinstalling is only "supported" method to "downgrade"
[16:12] <broglin> another problem: about half the time when i boot up, i don't get the graphical login screen. sometimes sudo lightdm restart solves it, but sometimes not
[16:12] <Firedog> ronald: really? in 2011?
[16:12] <Sidewinder1> genii-around, Worked like a charm; you, truly, are a gentleman and a scholar.. :D
[16:13] <genii-around> Sidewinder1: You flatter me. But glad to assist.
[16:13] <ronald> Yes really in 2011
[16:13] <broglin> (I have to log in on a VT and run sudo lightdm restart from there)
[16:13] <zjhui> Firedog: hmm..i know, but i just want to have a try , and i don't have a clear method to deal it
[16:13] <Firedog> broglin: is there any correlation between cold and warm boots and this behaviour?
[16:14] <peteslaptop> Hello everyone.. Looking for some help installing a printer
[16:14] <peteslaptop> Having a very hard time
[16:14] <jrib> !print | peteslaptop
[16:14] <broglin> Firedog: not that I've detected
[16:15] <peteslaptop> Well..I've been there. Here's my problem. I downloaded the 'cupswrapper' from brother. I've double clicked it to install, no dice
[16:15] <Firedog> zjhui: I would suggest making sure you have a backup of all important files, yadda yadda then following the logic of manual upgrade, start with changing the apt-sources down to older version sources
[16:15] <jrib> peteslaptop: why are you downloading things?  What's the first thing you tried?
[16:15] <peteslaptop> I extracted the files to look for the .ppd file that it seems to be asking for.. no good either
[16:16] <Firedog> broglin: if it is a quirk you could add your sudo lightdm restart to the user startup scripts
[16:16] <peteslaptop> I tried to install it the 'normal' way and my printer isn't listed
[16:16] <Firedog> broglin: or just sudo lightdm start
[16:16] <zjhui> Firedog: ok , thank you
[16:16] <jrib> peteslaptop: what is the 'normal' way?
[16:16] <jrib> !who | peteslaptop
[16:17] <peteslaptop> Menu on the upper right corner. My computer sees my printer, no driver to install
[16:17] <Firedog> zjhui: then I would propose using dpkg downgrade on core system packages, this should cause a chain reaction
[16:17] <Firedog> zjhui: but it might just break
[16:18] <jrib> peteslaptop: is the printer connected directly to the computer or is it on the network?
[16:18] <peteslaptop> !jrib It's on my home network
[16:19] <Firedog> ronald: I think not, it's been a long time since they were active, even gopher is dead
[16:19] <Sidewinder1> zjhui, As stated above, back-up all essential data files, then, the simplest method, IMHO, would be to fresh install the version of your choice; "downgrading" is beyond problematic; again, IMHO.. Good luck!
[16:19] <jrib> peteslaptop: no need for the '!'
[16:19] <jrib> peteslaptop: what printer is this?
[16:19] <Firedog> Sidewinder1: its gonna break
[16:19] <peteslaptop> OK.. I'm new to this so you'll have to excuse me ignorance on how his thing works
[16:19] <mang0> The terminal based irc client is called ircii right?
[16:20] <ShinyDarkness> Hello. One question: Is there any way to remotely install Ubuntu on a machine?
[16:20] <jrib> mang0: weechat and irssi are more popular ones
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> irssi rules
[16:20] <jrib> !install | ShinyDarkness
[16:20] <mang0> jrib: irssi, that's the one I was thinking of. Ty
[16:20] <peteslaptop> jrib: was reading above ubottu.. sorry
[16:20] <mezod> hi, i'm installing the last ubuntu but i am stucked where i have to give the username and computer name. It says everything is ready but i can't press "continue". Is it normal that it takes around 30 or more min here?
[16:20] <zjhui> Sidewinder1: yes, thank you for your advice
[16:21] <peteslaptop> jirb: the printer is a HL-2280DW
[16:21] <jrib> mezod: did you checksum the cd?
[16:21] <peteslaptop> jrib: Brother
[16:21] <babinlonston> can i install windows software such as microsoft office ,yahoo messenger , google talk, in ubuntu is it possible ?
[16:21] <mang0> !wine | babinlonston
[16:21] <mezod> jrib no
[16:22] <Firedog> bablinlonston: yes, and its good. as mang0 suggested wine is win
[16:22] <mang0> babinlonston: WINE can run some (most) windows programs. Some work flawlessley, some not so good.
[16:22] <ronald> Well I have a list of a few dial up BBses that are still active if anyone is interested.
[16:22] <jrib> mezod: you should do so
[16:22] <jrib> !ot | ronald
[16:22] <mezod> jrib what is it and when should i do that?
[16:22] <jrib> !wine | babinlonston
[16:22] <Firedog> bablionston: also wine has a database with rankings to show how well things will work
[16:22] <babinlonston> kk
[16:22] <jrib> mezod: before installing you should select "check the cd for defects"
[16:23] <mang0> bobslaede: http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=app.db&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCIQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fappdb.winehq.org%2F&ei=1sDPTsmnC8PX8QOQ9rX1Dw&usg=AFQjCNGkDI5hX0oyO91fsJqS-d2L368mBQ&sig2=DmdafT6B_ypfYmaD4HW3yg
[16:23] <jrib> !verify | mezod
[16:23] <Sidewinder1> Firedog, Yes, but I think, as long as all irreplaceable data files are stored somewhere else, it may be the "easiest way", but again 'easiest' and successful are sometimes mutually exclusive..
[16:23] <jrib> peteslaptop: can you link me to where you downloaded files from brother's site?
[16:24] <woody_> this isnt server related but was wondering about mounting a usb "dev/sda1" ...its not recognized in etc/fstab ?
[16:24] <woody_> notebook has no hard drive live usb
[16:24] <Firedog> Sidewinder1: on a purely logical level, if something is unsuccessful then it cannot be easiest its like using string instead of wires. its cheaper but it doesn't work
[16:24] <Firedog> :P
[16:25] <mezod> jrib so this is not normal, isn't it? jow should i proceed, can i just stop the installation?
[16:25] <mezod> how*
[16:25] <Firedog> Sidewinder1: I joke, and agree, its a bad idea to downgrade as it will just break. Almost guaranteed, usually libc
[16:25] <hrolf> How can I know what updates are being installed? Like Update Manager offers me to check and uncheck the items but how do I know the versions etc? The changes? Changelog or anything of that sort.
[16:26] <peteslaptop> jrib: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html
[16:26] <hrolf> Like I get an item "Safe and easy web browser from Mozilla" What the heck do I deduce from that?
[16:26] <jrib> mezod: if you filled in all of the information and it doesn't provide you the option to continue, I do not believe it is normal, correct.  I would cancel the install, then checksum the cd and proced from there
[16:26] <hrolf> What version is it?
[16:26] <Firedog> hrolf: firefox
[16:26] <jrib> peteslaptop: and then hl-2280dw?
[16:26] <bfri> can anyone help me with my hdmi out to a tv monitor?
[16:26] <peteslaptop> jrip: Yup.
[16:26] <fouad_> hey guys
[16:26] <jrib> peteslaptop: ok, and what happens when you attempt to install it by double clicking?
[16:27] <zykotick9__> mezod, are you trying to use capital letter or special characters in the username field?
[16:27] <hrolf> Firedog: :(
[16:27] <mezod> no
[16:27] <hrolf> Firedog: There's description right down
[16:27] <fouad_> is anyone experienced with php qr code generation on ubuntu?
[16:27] <hrolf> Firedog: I missed it :p
[16:27] <peteslaptop> jrib: it seems to run, but nothing happens
[16:27] <dfgas> how do i create a swap file and use it?
[16:27] <mezod> zykotick9__ i have a green V next to each field
[16:27] <cbird> bfri: i might be able to help, i've connected my laptop to monitor via HDMI and it worked ok.
[16:27] <jrib> fouad_: why would it be special on ubuntu?  Isn't ##php more appropriate?
[16:27] <Firedog> hrolf: you sorted?
[16:27] <linda_> dfgas: You more-than-likely already have a swap partition
[16:27] <cipherboy> Quick web devel question.
[16:27] <jrib> peteslaptop: why does it seem to run?
[16:27] <fouad_> haha i just realized that
[16:28] <dfgas> linda_, no, i don't
[16:28] <jrib> !swap | dfgas
[16:28] <linda_> dfgas: sudo fdisk -l | pastebilnit
[16:28] <cipherboy> Anyone here do web development?
[16:28] <andrew91831> yeah
[16:28] <sipior> cipherboy: not really the appropriate channel for that sort of thing.
[16:28] <linda_> dfgas: sudo fdisk -l | pastebilnit  #Show is the resulting URL
[16:28] <jrib> dfgas: but yes do what linda_ asks first to check if you already have a swap partition
[16:28] <bfri> cbird great what do you think, i did a "detect monitor" and nothing
[16:28] <peteslaptop> jrib: hold on for a sec, there is another app that opens, then there is a button to 'install' which I clicked
[16:29] <soreau> cipherboy: Try #html, #css, #javascript, #php, #jquery, or whatever channel suits your question
[16:29] <jrib> peteslaptop: yes
[16:29] <linda_> dfgas: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit  #Show is the resulting URL
[16:29] <linda_> Sorry first one was a typo
[16:29] <dfgas> i manually set partitions, i do not have a swap partition
[16:29] <linda_> dfgas: But if you did it anyway, just do  pstebinit pastebilnit
[16:29] <cbird> bfri: just for checkings sake, was the av on the monitor set to the right hdmi channel? I found i had to manually change mine
[16:29] <mezod> jrib zykotick9__ it happens when i choose not to use a password, otherwise i can proceed
[16:29] <cipherboy> soreau: sorry, joined #html
[16:30] <linda_> pastebinit pastebilnit   #Sorry, another typo
[16:30] <bfri> cbird yes
[16:30] <jrib> mezod: right, I don't think you can choose a blank password by default.  You probably need to change some pam settings after install to do that
[16:30] <bfri> cbird i tried both
[16:30] <dfgas> nvm, i will figure it out on my own
[16:30] <linda_> dfgas: Ok then
[16:30] <jrib> dfgas: ubottu's link already gave you instructions
[16:31] <linda_> dfgas: I would suggest using a non-destructive partition manager and create a swap partition.
[16:31] <cbird> bfri: so it didnt even pick it up as being connected, after the detect monitor?
[16:31] <bfri> cbird correct
[16:32] <linda_> dfgas: But, why don't you show us what you have now? (If you do, we can give you more specific advise.)
[16:33] <cbird> bfri: got a tv with hdmi that you can try? just for checking
[16:33] <bfri> cbird yes
[16:33] <bfri> im connected to a vizio
[16:33] <Firedog> odd, I have an 8GB swap partition, I once used it all up too and crashed :( that's because wireshark is not optimised well to extract multi GB streams from captured packet data
[16:35] <bekks> Firedog: Erm, define "not well optimized" - if you have a source file and you want to associate zillion of content snippets with each other, you need at least the size of the "multi-gigabyte data stream" as additional space.
[16:35] <bekks> You cannot optimize something at that point.
[16:36] <cbird> bfri: found the following: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HDMI
[16:36] <Firedog> bekks: that the source file is on disk and the target was also disk so wireshark tried to load it all to ram and then keep the new copy in ram until done then write to disk instead of filtering and writing on the fly.
[16:36] <bekks> Firedog: As I said, thats not possible...
[16:37] <cbird> bfri: has a couple of commands that can check whether the hdmi is picking anything up
[16:37] <Firedog> bekks: it was a single upd stream so not jumping here and their with the snippets
[16:37] <bekks> Firedog: "a single data stream" does not necessarily mean that all containing data is in some sort of order already.
[16:38] <Firedog> bekks: true, but it was
[16:38] <bekks> I doubt it :)
[16:38] <meadhikari> How would I build a cron job to run a remote script through ssh?
[16:38] <Firedog> :P
[16:38] <cbird> bfri: what model is your graphics card?
[16:38] <olli> j #ubuntu-meeting
[16:38] <olli> arg
[16:38] <linda_> meadhikari: crontab -e
[16:39] <bfri> cbird how do i find that out
[16:39] <Firedog> bekks: it was an mpeg transport stream and I was playing with capturing iptv for a hack, this was the point I could not get around without investing in lots of ram
[16:39] <huamm_> hello , anyone can help me about | how to make shortcut on desktop lxde?
[16:39] <linda_> meadhikari: But just build the script and put it where ever you want, (unless it's just a one-liner, in which case just type it in as a cronjob command).
[16:39] <meadhikari> linda_,  i mean, i need to ssh to the remote computer and run the script there
[16:39] <cipherboy_loc> Refresh my memory on how to get kernels to update through cli?
[16:39] <cipherboy_loc> *upgrade not update
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> meadhikari: command would be: ssh user@server 'command'
[16:39] <linda_> meadhikari: Put the script on the other computer.  Right?
[16:40] <meadhikari> linda_, yes
[16:40] <Firedog> cipherboy_loc: using apt?
[16:40] <cipherboy_loc> Firedog, yep
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> meadhikari: you keep the quotes in, e.g: ssh user@server01 'df -h'
[16:40] <linda_> meadhikari: In that case it would just be:  "ssh remote@remote-ip sh script.sh
[16:40] <meadhikari> ActionParsnip, what about the password?
[16:41] <cbird> bfri: System Settings > System Overview > Graphics
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> meadhikari: you would need to type it, if you setup key authentication then it won't be needed
[16:41] <cipherboy_loc> Firedog, when ever I get around to upgrading I always have a kernel upgrade and like 100 other packages. The other packages get pulled in but not the new kernel.
[16:41] <peteslaptop> jrib: I double clicked the cupswrapper.deb and the Ubuntu Software Center came up. It stopped responding
[16:41] <cbird> bfri: you may need to download the proprietry drivers for your graphics card to make it work
[16:41] <linda_> meadhikari: Get it?
[16:41] <meadhikari> ActionParsnip, how would i prevent from every time typing the password
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> peteslaptop: install in terminal will probably be easier
[16:42] <bfri> cbird i cant find System Settings > System Overview > Graphics
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> meadhikari: use ssh keys, like I said earier
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> *earlier
[16:42] <cipherboy_loc> meadhikari use ssh keys
[16:42] <cipherboy_loc> meh, late. :P
[16:42] <Firedog> cipherboy_loc: "apt-get update; apt-get upgrade" for all packages
[16:42] <peteslaptop> jrib: having trouble with that as well. I'm very new to this
[16:42] <meadhikari> thanks all, thank you for your time
[16:42] <meadhikari> :)
[16:42] <cipherboy_loc> Firedog: I get that. but it always says "The following packages have been kept back:   linux-generic-pae linux-headers-generic linux-headers-generic-pae   linux-image-generic-pae"
[16:43] <Firedog> cipherboy_loc: "apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:43] <peteslaptop> jrib: I've tried a number of commands with no success
[16:43] <cbird> bfri: Sorry in System Settings open  System Info in the section on left is Graphics, my bad.
[16:43] <bfri> cbird you lost me
[16:43] <cipherboy_loc> Firedog, that works, ty.
[16:43] <Firedog> np :)
[16:43] <cipherboy_loc> Now to apply the browser update. :P
[16:44] <bfri> cbird again where are system settings and system info?
[16:44] <cbird> bfri: what os version are you on?
[16:45] <bfri> 10.04
[16:45] <peteslaptop> jrib: Still with me?
[16:47] <zjhui> hello , when i use the command : service networking restart . it comes the error : " restart: Unknown instance: " , i have checked my interface and resolv.conf file , both are right , did any one know why this comes?
[16:48] <bekks> zjhui: sudo service networking restart
[16:48] <love4linux> hello.. I upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 and the login menu provides only the ubuntu 3d and 2d desktops...how can use the no-effect simple gnome desktop?
[16:48] <zjhui> bekks:  i'm also use this command
[16:49] <bekks> love4linux: There is no "no effect simple gnome desktop" anymore in 11.10
[16:49] <Firedog> bekks: btw it was 2.5GB capture and I had 4GB ram and 8 GB swap and still ran out, I expected to double it (just under) but wireshark wanted more ram than 12GB
[16:49] <cbird> bfri: ok, sorry i was assuming on unity, doh! you could open a terminal, sudo apt-get install hwinfo
[16:49] <Firedog> thats not too optimised imo
[16:49] <Night-hacks> how do you gather information when you are on a server which you know nothing about !! ? uname -a doesn't says much
[16:49] <peteslaptop> Folks, trying to installl a Brother HL2280DW
[16:49] <cbird> bfri: installs hwinfo, then run hwinfo | more from terminal
[16:49] <bekks> Night-hacks: What does it say then?
[16:49] <bfri> cbird
[16:50] <peteslaptop> I have the cupswrapper.deb file and have double clicked it to no avail
[16:50] <Night-hacks> bekks: doesn't implies to any distro
[16:50] <bekks> Night-hacks: What does it say...?
[16:50] <oCean> Night-hacks: try lsb_release -a
[16:50] <cbird> bfri: you can then go to System > Administration > Additional Drivers, you might find a proprietry driver for your graphics card in there
[16:50] <bfri> cbird i dont know how to run things from my terminal
[16:50] <bfri> what is the command
[16:51] <Night-hacks> bekks: just name the pc, time and other staff.
[16:52] <Night-hacks> bekks: i don't have access to it right now
[16:52] <cbird> bfri: ok, open a Terminal, find in your applications list, then type: sudo apt-get install hwinfo
[16:52] <cbird> bfri: you'll have to type your admin password
[16:52] <bfri> cbird
[16:52] <bekks> Night-hacks: Then all support is useless at this point...
[16:52] <bfri> cbird i did that i just dont know how to run it from the terminal
[16:52] <bfri> cbird what is the command to run
[16:52] <Night-hacks> oCean: does that works in all distros ?
[16:52] <cbird> bfri: ah sorry. Should just have to type: hwinfo | more
[16:53] <oCean> Night-hacks: nope, but this is ubuntu support.
[16:53] <peteslaptop> I am in the terminal, not sure how to get this software to install whatever drivers are needed to add the printer. Anyone have any experience in this area?
[16:53] <bfri> cbird ok done
[16:53] <Night-hacks> oCean: what if they have other distros ? any linux standard way ?
[16:53] <sardior> http://paste.ubuntu.com/749447/
[16:53] <bekks> Night-hacks: No.
[16:53] <bfri> cbird what should i look for in here?
[16:53] <cbird> does it give you a graphics card model in there somewhere, prob have to scroll through a bit
[16:54] <jrib> peteslaptop: install it with dpkg in a terminal
[16:54] <Night-hacks> oCean, bekks : tnx for helps
[16:54] <oCean> Night-hacks: lsb should be a standard (Linux Standard Base) but no all comply. See /etc directory. There might be /etc/lsb-release file or /etc/redhat-release etc
[16:54] <gxoptg> ubuntu.ru is not available...
[16:54] <peteslaptop> jrib: tried that one. Not sure why it didn't work
[16:55] <a34154ek> hey, anyone running 11.10 oneric ocelot?
[16:55] <Jonii> anyone know any application that would tell me what codecs does .mkv file use
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> !anyone
[16:55] <sardior> http://paste.ubuntu.com/749447/
[16:56] <jrib> peteslaptop: say what did happen (using a pastebin) not just that it did not work
[16:56] <pikaciu> matrioska
[16:56] <Firedog> bekks: also, not to labour the point but wireshark ppl recognise this issue: http://wiki.wireshark.org/KnownBugs/OutOfMemory
[16:56] <peteslaptop> jrib: what's a pastebin? I'm really new
[16:56] <pikaciu> Jonii: install vlc
[16:56] <Firedog> peteslaptop: its a web service to dump text
[16:57] <Firedog> peteslaptop: like a shared clipboard
[16:57] <s_p_or_t_o> Jonii: do you mean what codecs you need or what codecs should you select?
[16:57] <Firedog> peteslaptop: but the whole world can see it
[16:57] <bfri> cbird i opened a private chat can you see it?
[16:57] <jrib> !pastebin | peteslaptop
[16:58] <Firedog> peteslaptop: so probably not best to leave your bank account details and password on there in case you forget them
[16:58] <drewsearcy> Can someone help me figure out how fix something that is reported as fixed? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifupdown/+bug/876829 The last post says a fix was released but i dont see it anywhere?!
[16:58] <jrib> drewsearcy: that's in debian
[16:59] <drewsearcy> jrib: Im using Ubuntu 11.10, does that mean there isnt a fix that will work for Ubuntu?
[17:00] <sardior> network printer worked before, now with latest update quit... http://paste.ubuntu.com/749447/
[17:03] <nippur> ciao
[17:04] <nippur> !list
[17:04] <Gentoo64> ciao
[17:04] <Gentoo64> !list
[17:04] <dr_willis> lost...
[17:05] <sardior> gone...
[17:06] <jxm> hi, how can i install a previous version of a program?
[17:07] <Northwoods> hi , i have problem with my hard disk , and i'm using live cd run , is it possible to do low level format just to mark out any bad sectors
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> Northwoods: you can use dd to echo zeros to the drive from start to finish
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> Northwoods: or use dban
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> Northwoods: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-security-4/need-a-hard-drive-scrubber-363951/
[17:11] <Odaym> how can I tar multiple folders?
[17:11] <Odaym> create a tar.gz archive of 10 folders in a directory, for example
[17:11] <Odaym> isn't it "tar -xzvf folder1/ folder2/ folder3/"?
[17:11] <llutz> Odaym: tar cf foo.tar dir1 dir2 dir3
[17:12] <Odaym> oh sorry I meant a tar.gz archive for every folder of those 10
[17:12] <elb0w> Why does this new install say could not open a connection to your authentication agent
[17:12] <elb0w> ?
[17:12] <Odaym> do I have to execute the above command 10 times?
[17:12] <bekks> for i in a b c; do tar cvzf $i.tar $i/; done
[17:12] <llutz> Odaym: tar "x" extract, "c" create
[17:13] <luca_bi> how can I convert a pdf in a file csv?
[17:13] <luca_bi> I need CSV files
[17:13] <bekks> luca_bi: You cant, Just copy and paste the content.
[17:14] <luca_bi> you cannot copy a pdf file
[17:14] <luca_bi> how can you copy it?
[17:14] <llutz> luca_bi: pdftotext -> file, some awk -> .csv
[17:15] <luca_bi> Can you convert a pdf in a doc and a doc in a csv?
[17:15] <pikaciu> luca_bi: it's protected ?
[17:16] <luca_bi> they are cannered
[17:16] <luca_bi> scannered
[17:16] <pikaciu> :#
[17:16] <luca_bi> You cannot convert them in a pdf
[17:16] <bekks> Then you cant extract the text, because it is a graphic inside.
[17:17] <llutz> luca_bi: get an OCR soft to make text of your pdf
[17:17] <luca_bi> OCR soft?
[17:17] <llutz> Optical Character Recognition
[17:18] <pikaciu> luca_bi: usually given with the scanner drivers
[17:18] <cipherboy> Doesn't txt2pdf work?
[17:18] <llutz> cipherboy: to make txt from pdf? unlikely
[17:18] <cipherboy> Give me a moment to find the command..
[17:18] <luca_bi> Can you convert this kind of file?
[17:19] <bekks> luca_bi: Using a OCR program, yes.
[17:19] <luca_bi> what is a OCR program?
[17:19] <bekks> A program given with you scanning device that recognizes characters optically and converts them into text.
[17:19] <luca_bi> Are there on ubuntu?
[17:19] <linocisco> how to use xchat with #ubuntu channel ?
[17:20] <rumpe1> luca_bi, ocr=optical character recognition
[17:20] <cipherboy> would pstotext work?
[17:20] <bekks> linocisco: Just join the channel.
[17:20] <llutz> cipherboy: to make txt _from_  a pdf, containing images not text?
[17:20] <cipherboy> (sorry, forgot the name of the command first time around).
[17:20] <cipherboy> Oh,images.
[17:20] <bekks> cipherboy: For converting a pdf into text - no.
[17:20] <linocisco> I was never successful using with X chat. that is why I always have to use webchat
[17:20] <cipherboy> missed that part, sorry.
[17:20] <soreau> google docs might be able to
[17:21] <pikaciu> luca_bi: type ocr in synaptic
[17:21] <linocisco> my internet at work need authentication to use internet. but I put that user name and password. but not connected
[17:21] <bekks> soreau: No. They dont have a OCR component.
[17:21] <dawid__> lp
[17:21] <linocisco> can I test if my office network block X chat or that protocol ?
[17:21] <Northwoods> ActionParsnip: thanks, currently running [dd] .. no visual indication on the terminal window though, the HDD indicator seems blinking fast .. hoping it is [dd]
[17:21] <luca_bi> I try on software centre?
[17:22] <soreau> bekks: When I open a pdf image from gmail, it opens in a page where I can highlight text and paste it at least
[17:22] <pikaciu> luca_bi: ocrad
[17:22]  * Northwoods trying to do low level format
[17:22] <bekks> soreau: Thats a simple pdf viewing component. And did you try that with scanned text already?
[17:22] <llutz> luca_bi: cuneiform, tessaract
[17:22] <soreau> bekks: yes, that's why I said pdf image doc
[17:22] <luca_bi> I found ocrad
[17:23] <luca_bi> I'm installing it
[17:23] <Northwoods> luca_bi: any idea if  dd is right way ( writing zeros to disk ) ?
[17:23] <luca_bi> is it sufficient to convert a pdf in a doc?
[17:23] <pikaciu> luca_bi: let's find out :)
[17:24] <soreau> Northwoods: yes
[17:24] <luca_bi> cuneiform, tessaract?
[17:24] <luca_bi> what are they?
[17:24] <llutz> luca_bi: linuc ocr-soft
[17:24] <llutz> linux
[17:25] <luca_bi> I'm installing cuneiform
[17:25] <luca_bi> do you need also tessaract?
[17:26] <mezod> how can i stop having to put my password every time the comp hibernates?
[17:26] <Northwoods> soreau: what does exactly writing zeros to disk mean ?
[17:26] <bekks> luca_bi: Just try the three apps.
[17:26] <luca_bi> Is there a gui?
[17:26] <soreau> Northwoods: hard drives have binary units that are written to magnetically with representations of 0's or 1's
[17:27] <Northwoods> soreau: i see
[17:27] <bekks> luca_bi: If you start the apps, you will see wether there is a gui ;)
[17:27] <soreau> Northwoods: To write all 0's means to fill all units with 0's which effectively erases it because it's meaningless data
[17:27] <Northwoods> soreau: will it help me getting around bad sectors ?
[17:27] <luca_bi> bekks: have you ever use it?
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> mezod: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[17:28] <jxm> why is in my synaptic greyed <force version>?
[17:28] <soreau> Northwoods: No. Bad sectors are portions that have units that are damaged, so they can't be written to and read from properly
[17:28] <bekks> luca_bi: Yes.
[17:28] <soreau> Northwoods: Some drives have automatic bad sector handling but it largely depends on the specific device
[17:28] <luca_bi> How do you use it?
[17:28] <luca_bi> Are there commands?
[17:29] <Northwoods> soreau: how can i check/look for bad sectors ?
[17:30] <bekks> luca_bi: You know the names of the applications you just installed.
[17:30] <soreau> Northwoods: Not exactly sure, I (or you) would have to do some research (a good place to start is google)
[17:30] <BluesKaj> !kde | BluesKaj
[17:30] <soreau> hmm
[17:31] <soreau> ! ubuntu | BluesKaj
[17:31] <soreau> BluesKaj: Why did it pm him with the factoid without > ?
[17:31] <llutz> soreau: selftell
[17:31] <soreau> Oh duh
[17:31] <soreau> ;)
[17:32] <18WAA9XWV> test
[17:32] <BluesKaj> soreau, i was looking to see if the factoid includes kubuntu desktop
[17:32] <soreau> BluesKaj: FWIW, /msg ubottu factoid works too
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> !test | 18WAA9XWV
[17:32]  * RaTTuS|BIG Humps |
[17:33] <soreau> 18WAA9XWV: It didn't work
[17:34] <devilking> !wine
[17:37] <Gentoo64> .cle
[17:37] <guidov> i do sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1 to format my usb drive, all goes well, then i try to mount it, error occurs, dmesg | tail says: JBD: no valid journal superblock found / EXT4-fs (sdb1): error loading journal. what do i do wrong?
[17:38] <bekks> guidov: which mount command exactly do you use?
[17:38] <guidov> mount /dev/sdb1 usb (usb is a directory). but i get the same error when i get my usb drive out of the port, plug it back in and Ubuntu tries to mount it itself
[17:39] <guidov> also fsck /dev/sdb1 complains about the journal
[17:39] <Gentoo64> .pa
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> guidov: do you have a desktop UI?
[17:39] <Elems> I can't shut down, log off, suspend or hibernate on my laptop. The screen will go blank and hang there forever. I think this may be due to the nvidia proprietary drivers somehow..?
[17:39] <guidov> ActionParsnip, what do you mean?
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Elems: does:  sudo shutdown -n now      make it turn off?
[17:40] <theadmin> Elems: Hm, I had the same problem... By any chance, is it an Acer Aspire?
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> guidov: its as simple as I can put it, do you have a desktop based OS or a server one (command line only)?
[17:40] <guidov> yes I have plain Ubuntu, with desktop
[17:40] <BluesKaj> soreau, some ubuntu users looking to kdes asan alternative aren't instaling kubuntu-desktop which causes problems due to the incomplete info about installing kde
[17:41] <Elems> theadmin its a lenovo u460
[17:41] <soreau> BluesKaj: That's what kubuntu is for ;)
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> guidov: have you tried gparted
[17:41] <guidov> not yet, but it should work this way too
[17:41] <Elems> ActionParsnip I haven't tried those yet. I'll go ahead and check that out
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> guidov: true, if gparted works than  you know the commands are bad in some way
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> Elems: sorry: sudo shutdown -h now
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> Elems: h == halt
[17:42] <emilir> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:cherokee-webserver/i-tse
[17:42] <emilir> sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found
[17:42] <sl33k_> Any good resource online for learning terminal shortcut keys?
[17:42] <emilir> Why do I get not found?
[17:42] <theadmin> emilir: Probably an old Ubuntu version
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> emilir: install python-software-properties
[17:43] <emilir> lucid 10.04
[17:43] <escott> sl33k_, what do you mean terminal shortcut keys?
[17:43] <sl33k_> bash shortcut keys
[17:44] <theadmin> emilir: Use this: echo "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/cherokee-webserver/i-tse/ubuntu $(lsb_release -sc) main" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/cherokee-webserver_i-tse.list
[17:44] <escott> sl33k_, i think you are refering to readline http://www.gnu.org/s/bash/manual/html_node/Readline-Interaction.html
[17:44] <mezod> how am i supposed to navigate from one app to another when i have maximized them? this new system is not really comfortable
[17:44] <guest111222> Hello! Anyone knows what is going on with global proxy settings via System Settings -> Network -> Proxy? It does not work at all...
[17:44] <emilir> theadmin: I want to upgrade my cherokee though I already have 0.99.39 installed...
[17:45] <emilir> theadmin: will that upgrade my cherokee to latest?
[17:45] <sl33k_> escott: that was exactly what i was looking for. thanks a bunch
[17:45] <theadmin> emilir: It should, as long as the PPA has the latest.
[17:45] <pikaciu> sl33k_ : try also www.tldp.org
[17:46] <jeaton> anyone here really familiar with dd?
[17:46] <Elems> ActionParsnip well shutting down from the command line didn't work
[17:46] <mezod> i have just installed the alst version and it detects the battery of my laptop as empty but it is full, what can i do?
[17:46] <sl33k_> pikaciu: i will definitely, thanks
[17:46] <escott> !anyone | jeaton
[17:48] <BluesKaj> soreau, well kde works very well for me and I prefer it , especially now :)
[17:49] <guest111222> None with the idea about global proxy setting (system wide)?
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> Elems: same result?
[17:50] <Elems> ActionParsnip yup
[17:51] <Elems> ActionParsnip I feel like its because of my proprietary drivers, it worked before them. I also have no splash screen when the computer starts, and it doesn't pop up when shutting down either.
[17:53] <mezod> i have just installed the alst version and it detects the battery of my laptop as empty but it is full, what can i do?
[17:56] <dr_willis> mezod:  check the forums and askubuntu.com for similer issues with the exact make of your laptop.
[17:58] <peteslaptop> jrib: I was able to install  the cupswrapper.deb I moved the file to my home folder then sudo -i .....
[17:58] <Shwaiil> hi ppl
[17:58] <jrib> peteslaptop: well that should give you the driver
[17:58] <Shwaiil> Q: GeForce GT525M look like a "Optimus card" that  is not supported in ubuntu. How can I confirm if a given graphic card is optimus or not (i know is not supported in ubuntu) ? Tks for looking
[17:59] <jrib> peteslaptop: make sure you installed its dependencies
[17:59] <jordanjhoell> ando caido de la mata
[17:59] <kapc> how can i install gnome-keyring-manager?
[17:59] <peteslaptop> jrib: so the printer now appears in the gnome menu (upper right), however, this is a network printer
[17:59] <dr_willis> !find gnome-keyring-manager
[18:00] <dr_willis> !find seahorse
[18:00] <dr_willis> !info seahorse
[18:00] <dr_willis> kapc:  i think its actually called 'seahorse' but not sure about that
[18:00] <peteslaptop> jrib: so I assume that I have to connect it or configure the printer to see it over my router
[18:00] <jordanjhoell> I no speak Ingles
[18:01] <escott> Shwaiil, optimus is a combination of the card and the cpu, check bumblebee or vgaswitcheroo projects. (one supports nvidia the other ati I cant remember which is which)
[18:01] <jeaton> not a ubuntu question, but I formated my mp3 to low level and it wiped out the software and everything on it so it's pretty useless right now; however, I have another mpl3 player identical to it
[18:01] <kapc> dr_willis thank you, do you know the website of tango-icon-theme-common?
[18:01] <Real> ello
[18:01] <Shwaiil> escott,  tks a lot for looking. is there a way to check if a computer is optimus ? I want to get a new laptop and I dont want something that is not supported
[18:01] <alazare619> everyone needs to support this game its probably the best mmorpg out on the market for linux check it out Wakfu its openbeta atm most are french speakers that play but we can get english going support it fellow linuxers even tho i dont run ubuntu you guys have the biggest community
[18:01] <Shwaiil> GeForce GT525M
[18:02] <dr_willis> kapc:  nope
[18:02] <jeaton> if I were to plug them both into my computer, would this recover it "dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=/dev/sdb2 conv=notrunc,noerror"
[18:02] <kapc> !info tango-icon-theme-common
[18:02] <dr_willis> kapc:  thats just an icon pack. not the actual binary
[18:02] <Real> do you guys thing  linux will ever become mainstream
[18:02] <Real> ?
[18:02] <alazare619> no
[18:02] <alazare619> as desktop no server it already is
[18:02] <Real> what will it have to do in order to do so (on desktop/laptop)?
[18:02] <kapc> oh not good for me
[18:03] <peteslaptop> jrib: BTW, where do these 'drivers' reside on Linux? I know where to find them in Windows
[18:03] <alazare619> ubuntu comes on netbooks now tho
[18:03] <escott> Shwaiil, its not the GT525M that makes it optimus. its something about the way the gpu and cpu are interconnected. if the bios doesnt say and there isnt a label I have no idea how you woudl check
[18:03] <kapc> any suggesion of how it's named the binary of gnome-keyring-manager?
[18:03] <kapc> !info gnome-keyring-manager
[18:03] <Shwaiil> escott, tks! ok, so this have to be checked in the specifications on the manufacturer site right ?
[18:04] <guigouz> what would be the "correct" way of persisting iptables rules on ubuntu ?
[18:04] <dr_willis> Real:  i allready consider linux mainstream :)
[18:05] <genii-around> guigouz: iptables-save and iptables-restore
[18:05] <kijutsu> So -- I keep getting this annoying WAIT X from Nvidia GPU and a following mi EQ error that states Xorg is probably stuck in an infinite loop on 10.04.3-LTS.  How the heck do I fix this?
[18:05] <dr_willis> guigouz:  they are all stored in a file i recall . read by the firewall startup stuff.
[18:06] <guigouz> dr_willis: yeah, but is there any script that loads that on startup ?
[18:06] <guigouz> redhat-based distros usualy have a /etc/init.d/iptables script
[18:06] <emilir> How to install python-software-properties with Ubuntu Lucid (apt-get?)
[18:06] <guigouz> emilir: for python modules, you can try sudo easy_install module-name
[18:07] <peteslaptop> jrib: Got it. I'm such a noob at this, I appreciate your patience
[18:07] <emilir> I just want to make this command "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:cherokee-webserver/i-tse" work on my Ubuntu Lucid
[18:07] <Elems> My laptop can't shut down, log off, restart, etc. It used to work until shortly after getting proprietary nvidia drivers
[18:07] <emilir> and it keeps telling me "sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found"
[18:08] <peteslaptop> jrib: It works. Test page printed. Thanks to everyone for their patience and help. Will read up more on Linux so I can navigate the terminal better!
[18:08] <llutz> !find add-apt-repository
[18:08] <glebihan> emilir, just run "sudo apt-get install pytthon-software-properties"
[18:08] <mezod> i have just installed the alst version and it detects the battery of my laptop as empty but it is full, what can i do? can't find anything on askubuntu
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[18:09] <emilir> glebihan: nope, "E: Couldn't find package pytthon-software-properties"
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[18:09] <dr_willis> please ignore that.
[18:09] <glebihan> emilir, sorry typo : sudo apt-get install python-software-properties
[18:09] <dr_willis> grandkid just pasted it..
[18:10] <pikaciu> just one "t" emilir
[18:11] <theadmin> dr_willis: lol xD
[18:12] <alazare619> thanks for the link to your games dr willis
[18:12] <alazare619> downloading and installing now :)
[18:13] <theadmin> yep same, altough I already had all the introversion games and crayon physics so it's just aquaria for me :D
[18:13] <alazare619> i wanted multiwinia and darwinia
[18:13] <alazare619> aquaria too
[18:13] <alazare619> but yea help support wakfu
[18:13] <alazare619> games pretty neat to say the least
[18:13] <alazare619> its a sequel to dofus
[18:13] <dr_willis> was saveing the info to a file.. dident clear the buffer.
[18:14] <dr_willis> not like you cant get them off the torrents anyway.
[18:14] <alazare619> true
[18:14] <dr_willis> I can NEVER get crayon physics to work right i had it befor
[18:14] <alazare619> but i prefer to get them direct from the sources
[18:14] <alazare619> not 3rd party
[18:16] <nmvictor> I am trying to compile tomboy-todo addin/plugin and i get the error error CS0246: The type or namespace name `Gtk' could not be found. Are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?] , anyone know a quick fix to this?
[18:16] <kapc> can i downgrade version?
[18:16] <kijutsu> So -- I keep getting this annoying WAIT X from Nvidia GPU and a following mi EQ error that states Xorg is probably stuck in an infinite loop on 10.04.3-LTS.  How the heck do I fix this?
[18:17] <markkkz> Hi, when I download the Ubuntu kernel source does it include all settings intended for that particular kernel version? For example, if I want to recompile with an additional setting from Y to N.
[18:17] <guigouz> markkkz: did you check /boot for kernel config files ?
[18:17] <nmvictor> I am trying to compile tomboy-todo addin/plugin and i get the error error CS0246: The type or namespace name `Gtk' could not be found. Are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?] , anyone know a quick fix to this?
[18:18] <markkkz> guigouz: I have not downloaded the source yet. Soon. My connection right now is slow soI'll do it later.  But is that a yes or no?
[18:19] <markkkz> guigouz: Where can Iget a list of all the settings for a particular Ubuntu kernel. I'm using 2.6.38-12-generic right now on x64. Do you know? :)
[18:20] <guigouz> markkkz: I don't have an ubuntu box right now, but open a terminal and type "ls /boot", the config files for the current kernel should be there
[18:20] <guigouz> markkkz: there's also a possibility that /proc/config.gz exists, if it does, that's the current kernel config
[18:21] <markkkz> guigouz: ahh yes I see it. how could I have missed this. lol :) thanks
[18:21] <guigouz> markkkz: just copy them over to the kernel source dir, named as ".config"
[18:22] <markkkz> guigouz: ok so what you suggest, when i do "make menuconfig" does this default to the current setting or I'll have to check/uncheck everything? there ar eonly a couple of settings I want to change so I don't want to re-do the whole thing. Right?
[18:22] <Ruudjah> I have about 10 WAN connections here. Is there a way to use multiple simultaneously?
[18:23] <guigouz> markkkz: copy /boot/config-x.x.x to /usr/src/linux-y-y-y-y/.config
[18:23] <escott> Ruudjah, http://chris.olstrom.com/howto/setup-dual-wan/
[18:23] <Ruudjah> e.g. 1 for torrents, 1 for gaming, 1 for http traffic?
[18:23] <guigouz> markkkz: when you make menuconfig, the options will be already selected
[18:24] <guigouz> markkkz: i guess there should be a "ubuntu way" of doing this, you should look into that if you wish to create a deb file of your own kernel for redistribution
[18:25] <markkkz> guigouz: Excellent! :)  bunch of thanks. One more thing. Got an estimate how long it will take for the recopile? This is on an i5 2410M 8GB machine.
[18:25] <Ruudjah> its not doable with a single hardware eth, right? my wans are all wifi, so I guess id need multi wifi adapters (usb with a hub?)
[18:25] <guigouz> markkkz: never compiled a kernel on such machine, but I bet much less than 10 minutes
[18:25] <markkkz> guigouz: Well I just want to experiment. I'd like to do it on launchpad or something. I hear it's free and I don't have to recompile on my machine. But don't reall yknow how that works as of now.
[18:26] <markkkz> guigouz: .... so I'm going to compile on this machine and see if this works.
[18:27] <guigouz> markkkz: what are you tweaking ?
[18:27] <Ruudjah> (tnx escott)
[18:27] <markkkz> guigouz: Don't ask. It's really stupid and I'm going to get embarrassed saying it over here. =D
[18:27] <Doodie> hi, how do I increase the size of my FileSystem partition in ubuntu?
[18:28] <guigouz> ok, i understand some people have a fetish for kernel tweaks
[18:28] <escott> Doodie, boot the livecd and use gparted to resize
[18:28] <Doodie> escott, thanks
[18:29] <markkkz> guigouz: I have to read up on this particular setting anyway. So I have no idea right now if it'll work or not. But I just wanted to get the settings for the kernel set before I attempt over the weekend.  :D
[18:30] <lazyuser> exit
[18:30] <guigouz> markkkz: there's a kernel-howto also
[18:31] <thegreyspot> Hi! I just installed my new ubuntu on my new computer. HP Pavilion dv4. THe wifi card works when i first turn on the computer, and then it disconnects and the password prompt appears.. I am using wep on the router
[18:31] <thegreyspot> I have broadcom drivers installed, they were preinstalled i guess
[18:33] <thegreyspot> Once it disconnects it doesnt come back either, Not sure what to do. I am a noob to Ubuntu
[18:34] <marw> how log out by using console in ubuntu 11? gnome-session-save --logout does not workl
[18:34] <pikaciu> thegreyspot: the wireless led is on ?
[18:34] <markkkz> guigouz: Does kernel decompression output mean everything it spits out during the boot process until it comes to a login prompt?
[18:34] <markkkz> guigouz: regardless of what init level
[18:34] <pikaciu> thegreyspot: blue i mean
[18:35] <thegreyspot> Pikaciu yep
[18:35] <thegreyspot> blue?
[18:35] <thegreyspot> its orange
[18:35] <thegreyspot> its always orange
[18:35] <guigouz> markkkz: if you remove the "quiet" parameter from the kernel command line (on grub) you get the kernel boot info that runs before init
[18:35] <guigouz> markkkz: after that ends, init takes over
[18:35] <pikaciu> thegreyspot: on my hp dv6  is blue
[18:35] <thegreyspot> hmmm
[18:35] <thegreyspot> Im pretty sure its orange in windows too
[18:36] <markkkz> guigouz: Ok. so kernel decompression output is before init, then the rest of the messages are from init? Is dmesg init or kernel or a mix of both?
[18:37] <pikaciu> thegreyspot: look in additional drivers
[18:37] <pikaciu> thegreyspot: and run ifconfig
[18:37] <escott> markkkz, the kernel keeps its logging in memory before handing it off to syslog. dmesg just prints the kernels buffer which may or may not be long enough to include kernel logs from the very beginning of the boot
[18:37] <phibxr> thegreyspot, how strong is the signal?
[18:39] <markkkz> escott: ok thanks. hmm....
[18:39] <Elems> My laptop can't shut down or log out, how do I fix this?
[18:40] <dr_willis> Elems:  and how are you trying to 'log out' ?
[18:40] <Elems> dr_willis using the log out option from the menu. And I've tried shutting down from there and the command line with no success.
[18:41] <thegreyspot> pikaciu: doing an apt-get upgrade so ill brb
[18:42] <tnks> I'm on Oneric, does anyone have vim problems inserting a prefix on multiple lines with a visual block?
[18:42] <dr_willis> Elems:  so what does it do exctly when you try to log out? thats a totally differnt sort of thing then shutting down.
[18:42] <Elems> dr_willis it hangs on a blank screen
[18:43] <dr_willis> Elems:  i recall ages ago in gdm needing to use a 'always restart x server' setting for my old ati card
[18:43] <tnks> the keystrokes I think it should be are: Ctrl-V, <select lines>, I, <prefix>, ESC
[18:44] <tnks> but it's never worked for me.
[18:44] <Elems> dr_willis I'm using a nvidia card with the proprietary drivers, should I try what you are saying..?
[18:44] <tnks> I asked #vim, but they recommended I verify it with other Ubuntu users.
[18:47] <dr_willis> Elems:  i dont even know if lightdm has that option any more. It was in GDM.
[18:47] <Elems> dr_willis oh yea... I'm honestly thinking of reinstalling because there are a bunch of things acting weird.
[18:48] <dr_willis> i always do clean installs :)
[18:49] <tnks> scratch that, I figured it out.
[18:49] <tnks> I'm so used to Shift-V, I was doing that instead of Ctrl-V
[18:49]  * tnks is silly
[18:52] <wildc4rd> good evening all
[18:52] <pikaciu> life in a day ---
[18:54] <saymoo> can i ask a question?
[18:55] <costre_> !ask
[18:55] <soreau> ! ask | saymoo
[18:55] <saymoo> "how's everyone doing here?"  :P
[18:56] <Real> ello
[18:56] <ShinyDarkness> Hello.
[18:56] <saymoo> olle
[18:57] <Real> so, what does linux have to do in order to become mainstream on the desktop
[18:57] <Real> ?
[18:57] <Real> (including laptop)
[18:57] <saymoo> Real, quite a few things....
[18:58] <saymoo> question is does GNU/Linux needs to be mainstream (as in huge marketshare)?
[18:59] <Real> Great counter question...
[18:59] <Real> I guess, more mainstream, better resources/support, better for linux overall
[18:59] <saymoo> yes and no
[19:00] <Real> obviously it always depends
[19:00] <saymoo> exact
[19:00] <saymoo> ly
[19:00] <Real> but in general that would be more positive than negative
[19:01] <saymoo> it could be expected to be a possitive turnout
[19:01] <Real> I see the glimmers of greatness in linux and overall o/f software
[19:01] <BluesKaj> BBL, stuff to do
[19:01] <jdjb> Has anyone experienced a bug in vim where syntax highlighting turns off after you save specific file types (in my case PHP)?
[19:01] <Real> and a better ecosystem
[19:01] <Real> usually can mean more funding
[19:02] <Real> more funding more developement and HIGHER QUALITY
[19:02] <bazhang> !ot | Real
[19:02] <saymoo> Problem is, if GNU/linux is going mainstream (e.g. bigger than apple's share), it also attracks criminals more, and bad written software in general.
[19:02] <bazhang> saymoo, please continue in #ubuntu-offtopic as well
[19:09] <xaxes> hey all.. I have a question, hopefully somebody is able/willed to help me :) .. I just bootet a ubuntu-system without any user.. what would be the fastes way to create one? (right now Im in the login-manager (gui)) .. serial console gives me no login console or something like that.. maybe simple copying a valid passwd/shadow to fs?
[19:09] <theadmin> xaxes: Boot from a livecd, chroot and adduser
[19:09] <theadmin> xaxes: best idea imo
[19:09] <plouffe> does anyone know if it is possible to run a real Windows 7 partition under Ubuntu (like a virtual machine)?
[19:10] <xaxes> theadmin: thanks, livecd could be heavy ^^ no cd ;) but I gonna try to use live-install
[19:10] <theadmin> plouffe: Yes, you can.
[19:10] <plouffe> theadmin, how?
[19:10] <MeQuerSat> xaxes: cant you just do a Control+Alt+F1 and log in as root?
[19:10] <theadmin> plouffe: Virtualbox can do that -- make it use a real hard drive, like this: VBoxManage internalcommands createrawvmdk -rawdisk /dev/sda -filename ~/my-harddrive.vdi
[19:10] <FightOppression> Why can't I boot from USB on my Asus p5B board? I formatted the stick with ext3, created a startup usb stick with the Gnome application and set boot from removable device in the bios.
[19:10] <theadmin> MeQuerSat: Root login is disabled on Ubuntu by default.
[19:10] <juanchi> hi people!! Im having troubles with my locales in Natty... Gtk applications throw: " Locale not supported by C library., "Using the fallback 'C' locale... Some applications dont even start... Ive been googling for days without getting anything... ive tried reconfiguring the locales with dpkg.. also tried with localedef but no luck... Root user dont have any problem.. Any ideas?
[19:11] <xaxes> MeQuerSat: what is root on ubuntu without an existing user?
[19:11] <theadmin> xaxes: Hey, another idea
[19:11] <plouffe> theadmin, that is all? I will give it a go
[19:11] <lunitik> plouffe, I would recommend virtualbox-ose as a starting point
[19:11] <xaxes> I actually dont like the root-philosophy on ubuntu.. ^^
[19:11] <MeQuerSat> oh, didnt know that theadmin, thanks :)
[19:11] <theadmin> xaxes: During boot up, hold Shift, and then choose "Recovery mode" and from there on, "root shell"
[19:12] <xaxes> gonna try it
[19:12] <theadmin> xaxes: If that doesn't work, try appending "init=/bin/bash" to your kernel line, and replace "ro" with "rw".
[19:12] <lunitik> xaxes, Why? Having a root account makes it very easy to hack the box, using sudo and disabling the root account makes things a lot more secure... of course it would be better to use SELinux and simply limit root and users to what you actually want, but that is considered too difficult
[19:13] <MeQuerSat> "Having a root account makes it very easy to hack the box"
[19:13] <MeQuerSat> not true at all
[19:13] <MeQuerSat> If you set roots password to 123, then youre right...
[19:14] <xaxes> lunitik: see it from that point: most of the people want to use a `simple` password for normal work.. not to type every time a 32pw .. most of them have a very simple one.. if you have this.. everything is fine, maybe Im wrong
[19:14] <lunitik> MeQuerSat, it makes it very simple to target john the ripper at a particular account... it is predictable
[19:14] <xaxes> lunitik: you could change the name of "root" to every name you want.. so that shouldnt be a real problem
[19:14] <lunitik> xaxes, but it is always UID 1
[19:15] <xaxes> lunitik: yes
[19:15] <xaxes> do you use the UID on login? :)
[19:15] <lunitik> xaxes, you cannot predict the account number of an account with sudo access
[19:15] <xaxes> theadmin: shift doesnt work sadly.. gonna try the bash thing
[19:15] <lunitik> xaxes, a hacker would use UID to gain access, though
[19:15] <MeQuerSat> it mostly is 1000...
[19:15] <xaxes> lunitik: if you have acces to ONE account of your machine, youre able to use ALL .. In my opinion thats really creepy
[19:16] <lunitik> MeQuerSat, it doesn't have to be, though... changing the name or UID of root breaks a bunch of stuff (I tried it, huge mess)
[19:16] <Guest71142> hi everybody
[19:16] <Lubomir> hello. i installed ubuntu 11.10, run the updates, reboot and now the system dont boot any more. it hang up at grub and i have the grub command line infront of mine
[19:16] <MeQuerSat> lunitik, with a 20+ char password John the rip. isnt going to do anything
[19:16] <lunitik> MeQuerSat, changing the UID of a normal user that just happens to have sudo access breaks nothing
[19:16] <MeQuerSat> Lubomir, can you select Recovery Mode ?
[19:17] <Lubomir> MeQuerSat: i cant select anything. it just give me an command line
[19:17] <kijutsu> What are these stupid 'server stuck in infinite loop' in my Xorg.0.log and how the heck can I make th em stop?
[19:17] <MeQuerSat> Lubomir, does it display: grub>
[19:18] <Lubomir> MeQuerSat: yes
[19:19]  * lunitik wishes Ubuntu would adopt SELinux and the related tools from Fedora instead of the dead project AppArmor, but otherwise their security features are quite good
[19:19] <xaxes> theadmin: bash doesnt work too
[19:19] <MeQuerSat> Lubomir, do you have EFI ?
[19:20] <mickepaprika> hello...
[19:20] <Lubomir> MeQuerSat: no. its an older centrino notebook. Like i told. I just installed fresh ubuntu and select "use whole hdd". I boot into it, run the updates that have been automaticly shown and now it does not boot any more
[19:20] <mickepaprika> how can I disable compiz and enable the good old metacity? it is getting a bit heavy for my old computer...
[19:21] <at_insider> hi all
[19:21] <escott> mickepaprika, what version of ubuntu are you running
[19:21] <MeQuerSat> mickepaprika, log out and select Ubuntu 2D
[19:21] <at_insider> i nooby
[19:21] <MeQuerSat> Lubomir, you can boot from the live-cd again and reinstall grub
[19:21] <lunitik> mickepaprika, sudo apt-get install metacity && metacity --replace ... I would recommend trying the Unity 2D desktop in Onieric first though, its basically the same except without the effects
[19:22] <lunitik> mickepaprika, using metacity will break a lot of unity, since unity is built on top of compiz
[19:22] <s_p_or_t_o> can anyone help me find alsa drivers for linux-alsa-driver-modules-2.6.32-35-generic-pae for 10.04 LTS lucid, it's not in the PPA
[19:23] <mickepaprika> MeQuerSat: ok will try that...
[19:23] <at_insider> Народ,ну скажите как разблочить порт,а?
[19:23] <Lubomir> MeQuerSat: how can i do this exactly?
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> !ru| at_insider
[19:23] <mickepaprika> lunitik: well actually.. don't know if i'm too crazy about unity either...
[19:23] <mickepaprika> i'm running the latest version of ubuntu btw...
[19:23] <kijutsu> Why do I constantly get errors in my Xorg.0.log saying that the server is infinitely looping and a stacktrace a mile long?  I have to reboot the computer to get it to respond again.
[19:23] <mickepaprika> ok will try to log out.. later...
[19:24] <lunitik> mickepaprika, there are many other options if you wanna try some of them... you can do 'apt-cache search x-window-manager' to see a full list
[19:24] <MeQuerSat> Lubomir: google it
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> !google
[19:25] <bazhang> MeQuerSat, thats not helpful
[19:25] <bazhang> !grub2 | Lubomir this may help
[19:25] <escott> Lubomir, when you say it does not boot can you be more specific. what is the last thing you see during the boot
[19:26] <MeQuerSat> bazhang, Im just assuming the guy isnt too retarded to google "grub reinstall from livecd"
[19:26] <MeQuerSat> its not that hard to come up with ;)
[19:26] <Lubomir> escott: grub minimalistic command line
[19:26] <bazhang> MeQuerSat, if you have nothing to offer then dont say google it, people know about google already.
[19:26] <lunitik> MeQuerSat, please do not use derogatory words in #ubuntu, many will be offended
[19:27] <MeQuerSat> :)
[19:27] <mickepaprika> yep that worked... thanks!!
[19:27] <escott> Lubomir, then follow the instructions in the !grub2 response as if you "lost GRUB after installing windows"
[19:27] <lunitik> MeQuerSat, consider, they have come here to ask exactly because Google and friends aren't complying with their needs
[19:27] <kijutsu> What do I need to do to end this ridiculous repetition of the Xorg server falling into a infinite loop requiring a system reboot?
[19:28] <MeQuerSat> lunitik, if you, for a second, read what I said to help the guy, you would be quiet now ;)
[19:28] <lunitik> MeQuerSat, Ubuntu takes a stance of hand holding rather than rtfm
[19:28] <MeQuerSat> again...
[19:28] <lunitik> kijutsu, what exactly is the error you are seeing in the log?
[19:28] <kijutsu> lunitik: give me a moment and I'll pastebin the necessary info
[19:28] <Ciatronical> tst
[19:28] <pikaciu> MeQuerSat: read the fucking manual
[19:29] <lunitik> pikaciu, read the FINE manual!
[19:29] <bazhang> pikaciu, uncalled for and unacceptable
[19:29] <pikaciu> sorry :P
[19:29] <kijutsu> lunitik: http://pastebin.com/D4PFsnhV
[19:30] <pikaciu> i just made clear "rtfm"
[19:30] <lunitik> Ubuntu exists exactly because Debian folks are too rude about new users... keep it in mind
[19:30] <SMJ> so... what would be a good music player?
[19:30] <kijutsu> lunitik: I've tried disabling compiz and dropping to a dead boring non-compiz Gnome screen, and it hasn't helped.
[19:30] <MeQuerSat> SMJ: Rhythmbox
[19:31] <SMJ> let's see
[19:31] <MeQuerSat> kijutsu, what driver are you using?
[19:31] <lunitik> kijutsu, I see no error there... please 'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
[19:32] <bindi> sigh.
[19:32] <SMJ> MeQuerSat: I can't hide the playlist :(
[19:32] <bindi> i just updated my system (11.10), and after a reboot, picture was all messed up. wrong resolution etc, opened nvidia-settings, it told me to do nvidia-xconfig, so I did, and rebooted
[19:32] <MeQuerSat> kijutsu, the latest nvidia propitiatory drivers from the official repositories?
[19:32] <bindi> no picture
[19:32] <SMJ> and the Play/Stop/Rewind buttons are huge
[19:32] <MeQuerSat> SMJ: not huge here
[19:33] <MeQuerSat> SMJ: What playlist?
[19:33] <MeQuerSat> SMJ: you can click at the left on Music to open the library (= no playlist)
[19:33] <SMJ> what ever the part below the position slider is
[19:33] <nlion> hey so I got a GPG error when running apt-get update. Any help?
[19:33] <escott> bindi, do you know what was included in the update. kernel/xorg/nvidia etc?
[19:33] <kijutsu> lunitik: there is no error -- the problem is the X window stops responding, and I get a log full of the server stuck in infinite loop and a log full of stacktrace
[19:33] <bindi> escott: no, just a bunch of updates
[19:33] <SMJ> VLC is a great music player
[19:34] <MeQuerSat> SMJ: then install vlc?
[19:34] <nlion> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[19:34] <Sidewinder1> SMJ, Perhaps have a look at the KDE version, "Juke?"
[19:34] <nlion> can anyone help me debug that?
[19:34] <MeQuerSat> kijutsu, what is the exact video driver youre using?
[19:34] <lunitik> Clemantine is nice if you want a player... juke is very limited
[19:34] <bekks> nlion: 404 means file not found.
[19:34] <SMJ> but I'm crazy and upgraded to precise, and VLC keeps crashing, so I'll just try alternatives
[19:34] <nlion> is that repository nonexistent?
[19:35] <nlion> thanks bekks
[19:35] <kijutsu> MeQuerSat: nvidia-current, which is a meta package (i believe)
[19:35] <MeQuerSat> SMJ: rhythmbox looks like this: http://projects.gnome.org/rhythmbox/screenshots/rhythmbox-main.png
[19:35]  * Sidewinder1 Is listening to Rythmbox, as we speak.. :D
[19:36] <MeQuerSat> kijutsu, you can open Synaptic, search for "nvidia" and look which are installed
[19:36] <SMJ> yes, all kinds of useless stuff. vlc looks like this http://www.bablotech.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/vlc-media-player-100-rc1.png
[19:36] <kijutsu> MeQuerSat: nope.  I don't have time before Xorg decides to lock up.
[19:37] <MeQuerSat> kijutsu, it can be done via command line, but Im not sure how
[19:37] <lunitik> kijutsu, dpkg -l *nvidia*
[19:37] <kijutsu> MeQuerSat: according to apt-cache showpkg nvidia-current -- it's 195.36.24-0ubuntu1
[19:37] <kijutsu> For the record.. I'm using 10.04-LTS
[19:38] <SMJ> Sidewinder1: is juke a command line program?
[19:38] <MeQuerSat> SMJ: then use mplayer or smplayer
[19:38] <Lubomir> argh
[19:38] <lunitik> SMJ, no... it is a minimalistic KDE player
[19:38] <Lubomir> i installed grub again
[19:38] <Lubomir> with sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdX
[19:38] <Lubomir> and after reboot i get again the minimalistic grub command line
[19:39] <SMJ> I'll try smplayer
[19:39]  * lunitik pokes mplayer2
[19:39] <MeQuerSat> Lubomir, did you use /dev/sdX or /dev/sda ?
[19:39] <bencc> how can I flush the dns?
[19:39] <Lubomir> dev/sda
[19:39] <bencc> ping gives me correct IP on one machine but on the other the old IP
[19:39] <escott> Lubomir, did you have sda1 mounted on /mnt at the time you ran that command
[19:39] <Lubomir> before i mount the right root partition to the right place
[19:40] <Lubomir> escott:yes
[19:40] <MeQuerSat> bencc: I believe sudo /etc/init.d/dns-clean start       will do the job
[19:40] <SMJ> smplayer looks good
[19:40] <MeQuerSat> bencc: if that doesnt work, you can do a "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[19:40] <bencc> MeQuerSat: still old IP
[19:40] <Sidewinder1> SMJ, Although it can be started via cli, it's a KDE based (I believe) GUI player; not too top-heavy, IMHO.
[19:41] <Lubomir> that cant be normal! How should a normal user use ubuntu?!? He installs it, run the updates and after that its broken
[19:41] <bencc> MeQuerSat: still old IP
[19:41] <relik> how can you encrypt the home directory after installation of ubuntu 11.10?
[19:41] <MeQuerSat> Lubomir, that rarely happens
[19:41] <bencc> MeQuerSat: I also tried to restart
[19:41] <escott> relik, yes
[19:41] <relik> escott: but how?
[19:41] <escott> !ecryptfs | relik
[19:41] <greves> hello, i have a question about dual booting
[19:41] <MeQuerSat> bencc: then try this: sudo aptitude install nscd
[19:41] <MeQuerSat> bencc: and then run: sudo /etc/init.d/nscd restart
[19:41] <kijutsu> bencc: try using 'sudo /etc/init.d/nscd restart'
[19:42] <bencc> why do I need nscd?
[19:42] <MeQuerSat> its the dns caching daemon
[19:42] <escott> relik, was hoping there would be an ecryptfs suggestion. evidently there isn't. its a bit involved so its probably easiest to create a new user with encrypted home and then migrate
[19:42] <SMJ> juke is curses-based player, you must mean Juk...
[19:42] <bencc> do I need to install a caching daemon to clean the cache?
[19:42] <MeQuerSat> Lubomir, what was the output after which you ran the grub-install command?
[19:42] <MeQuerSat> bencc: networking restart should work
[19:43] <relik> hmmm let me check how
[19:43] <escott> relik, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[19:43] <greves> can anyone advise me on dual booting? just bought a machine with no OS, i will primarily use win7 which i haven't installed yet, i have a 1TB hard drive - what is the best way to partition for ubuntu?
[19:43] <Lubomir> MeQuerSat: that it installed successfully and with no errors
[19:43] <phlux> Hey guys, I had to reboot my Ubuntu system, and I booted into a grub> prompt
[19:43] <bencc> MeQuerSat:  example.com gives me the old IP but www.example.com the new IP
[19:43] <kijutsu> greves: you can install windows 7, then install ubuntu afterwards, and I'm pretty sure that Ubuntu will resize the existing partition and modify the boot record automatically.
[19:43] <bencc> MeQuerSat:  that's weird
[19:44] <phlux> not sure why, but root (hd0,0) won't do anything, nor will setup (hd0)
[19:44] <MeQuerSat> bencc: but its not the fault of ubuntu
[19:44] <phlux> so any help getting this thing booted would be appreciated
[19:44] <MeQuerSat> bencc: restart your router?
[19:44] <kijutsu> greves: or install windows 7 as usual, and leave a 50-ish gig partition at the end of your drive for use with partition.
[19:44] <kijutsu> .,..ubuntu rather
[19:44] <greves> kijutsu: is it easy/possible to make a relatively small ubuntu partition, and save most larger files to the windows partition?
[19:44] <SMJ> JuK is great too
[19:44] <bencc> MeQuerSat: ubuntu is a vbox guest but the win host gives new IP
[19:44] <bencc> MeQuerSat: so I don't think it's the router
[19:45] <greves> like, can i "share" the drive between windows and ubutu?
[19:45] <lunitik> greves, sure
[19:45] <xaxes> thanks all.. bye ;)
[19:45] <kijutsu> greves: i'm not sure how well Linux can write to NTFS yet.  I know for a long time it was very touch and go.
[19:45] <MeQuerSat> Lubomir, phlux, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Use_Boot-Repair_Graphical_Tool
[19:45] <phlux> Anyone?
[19:45] <phlux> Thanks
[19:45] <lunitik> greves, I would recommend creating a separate drive for it rather than the windows c: though
[19:46] <kijutsu> lunitik: fat32 you think?
[19:46] <RoadsterGT> how can i edit grub so it loads automatically the 4th option at boot select? (windows that is)
[19:46] <lunitik> kijutsu, ntfs is fine
[19:46] <hayxor> i have had goos luck with dual booting wins and ubuntu- but i think ut helps for beginners to install windows first then linux
[19:46] <hayxor> good*
[19:46] <lunitik> kijutsu, that is what ntfs-3g is for
[19:46] <greves> lunitik: how big should i make the ubuntu drive to be useable?
[19:46] <MeQuerSat> kijutsu, ntfs has great read+write support nowadays
[19:46] <kijutsu> lunitik: i wasn't aware NTFs writing has been made functional.  About time that's been incorperated :)
[19:47] <greves> lunitik: assuming i'll just save anything bigger than a few hundred MB direct to the windows partition
[19:47] <Lubomir> 352MB download for reinstall grub. HAHAHA :D
[19:47] <RoadsterGT> how can i edit grub so it loads automatically the 4th option at boot select? (windows that is)
[19:47] <lunitik> greves, I would recommend at least 5 gigs, and something like 15 gigs for c: ... then utilizing tweak UI to move Windows apps to d: and share d: on both systems
[19:47] <lunitik> kijutsu, that is why I am recommending a smallish c: and a larger secondary partition to be shared
[19:47] <MeQuerSat> Lubomir, you can also install the boot-repair program from the live-cd..
[19:48] <greves> lunitik: that sounds like a good idea...
[19:48] <phlux> MeQuerSat: I can't boot from that grub prompt somehow?
[19:48] <greves> lunitik: so then my drives would be: /dev/sda1 (15gb c:), sda2 (960gb d:), sda3 (15gb ubuntu), sda4 (2gb swap)
[19:49] <greves> lunitik: something like that?
[19:49] <lunitik> greves, it is actually good practice anyway, that way you can reinstall the main windows system every so often to ensure best performance
[19:49] <MeQuerSat> phlux, probably not
[19:49] <phlux> That sucks
[19:49] <phlux> Thanks, MeQuerSat. I'll give it a download.
[19:49] <xsinick> what channel can I talk about the trends of ubuntu
[19:49] <lunitik> greves, well, I would recommend a small /boot partition of maybe 300mb to keep grub safe as well
[19:49] <xsinick> and it's  new look?
[19:49] <greves> lunitik: oh speaking of that, i was planning to use norton ghost to make a backup of the windows install + ninite downloads
[19:49] <Lubomir> i take an other distribution... i tought i give ubuntu a try on the laptop of a friend. that was a good try. I dont want to loose any more time. i will use my own distribution. check zevenos-neptune. its debian based with my own compiled kernel based on vanilla sources and so on
[19:49] <lunitik> greves, unless you are familiar with the Windows boot manager
[19:49] <greves> lunitik: so i'd need another partition for that, no?
[19:50] <MeQuerSat> greves: you should keep the small OS partitions at the beginning of the drive
[19:50] <lunitik> greves, yes, for /boot
[19:51] <wolfmitchell> Hey
[19:51] <lunitik> greves, 15 gigs is more than enough to not even need to share drives on the Ubuntu system... Windows 7 is HUGE though
[19:51] <greves> so what should my drive setup be assuming i want ~15gb c:, ~15gb /, ~2gb swap, ~x00mb /boot, ~15gb c:/ ghost
[19:51] <greves> well i've got 1tb to play with
[19:51] <greves> is it easy with tweakui to default all app installs to d:?
[19:52] <greves> so like if i install 10 gigs of adobe nonsense, that will all be on d:?
[19:52] <shibin> hai all when I try to update my ubuntu I got stuck with this error The package burg-theme-picchio needs to be reinstalled ,, please help ?
[19:53] <lunitik> greves, part 1: 500mb /boot; part 2: 15 gig windows c:\; part 3: 5 gb Ubuntu (can use a swap file); part 4: shared drive (d:\ and say /home/$USER/stuff/
[19:53] <MeQuerSat> I would do this: 100mb /boot ~ 30gb C:/ ~ 20gb ubuntu ~ 2gb swap ~ rest for D:/
[19:53] <jaylad> i need help with unix file permissions
[19:53] <lunitik> greves, you can move it there via tweak ui, yes... if adobe obeys the new programs folder
[19:53] <greves> and what about the ghost copy of fresh C: install
[19:54] <lunitik> jaylad, ok... with respect to what?
[19:54] <hayxor> i would just out the ubunut on their and acess the windows files that way with dual boot
[19:54] <MeQuerSat> greves: just dump that in D:/
[19:54] <shibin>  The package burg-theme-picchio needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. how to remove this
[19:54] <hayxor> they are all their as a file system you can browse
[19:54] <lunitik> greves, d: or a usb stick to keep it safer
[19:54] <greves> MeQuerSat: i thought the idea was that it's not mounted in case of any corruption ?
[19:54] <M4d3L> hi. how I can make a speedtest from ssh ?
[19:54] <MeQuerSat> greves: its only a ghost copy afterall
[19:54] <MeQuerSat> I dont even like them
[19:54] <M4d3L> I want to know the connection speed of my server
[19:55] <jaylad> well i wanted to stop users from being able to read files out side their home folder and i fucked up abit because ive taken all their permissions away
[19:55] <MeQuerSat> jaylad: first you can do a "sudo chown user:group /home/user"
[19:55] <MeQuerSat> and replace user and group by the username and the group they are in
[19:56] <MeQuerSat> M4d3L, create a 100mb test file and download it? :)
[19:56] <bazhang> jaylad, watch the language here, no cursing
[19:56] <jaylad> iim sorry
[19:56] <greves> MeQuerSat: well, assuming that at some point i get a crippling virus on windows 7, wouldnt it be hard to reload the ghost image if it was just on D:?
[19:56] <martianlobster> which device is the cdrom?  I tried /dev/sr0 /dev/scd0, so far no luck
[19:57] <Gentoo64> martianlobster, sr0 or cdrom
[19:57] <MeQuerSat> greves: I dont know what you use to recover a system, but I think it should be possible to browse the D:/ drive for the ghost-image
[19:57] <martianlobster> sudo dd if=/dev/cdrom of=gaga1.iso
[19:57] <martianlobster> dd: reading `/dev/cdrom': Input/output error
[19:58] <MeQuerSat> martian, do a "ls /dev"
[19:58] <MeQuerSat> and see what its called
[19:58] <M4d3L> MeQuerSat: I only have 10mbit connecter from home. it will not be a revelant test
[19:58] <martianlobster> there are countless directories in /dev
[19:58] <Gentoo64> /dev/cdrom is just a shortcut to sr0
[19:59] <Gentoo64> sr0 is usually the proper one to use
[19:59] <dssdsd> :)
[19:59] <MeQuerSat> martian, then tru /dev/sr0
[19:59] <MeQuerSat> try*
[19:59] <greves> MeQuerSat, ok so going with your idea /boot, c:, /, swap, d:, which of those are primary / logical partitions?
[19:59] <MeQuerSat> all OS and boot drives should be primary
[19:59] <Mitochondria> !seen Mito
[19:59] <qwebirc6378> Hello
[19:59]  * Mitochondria cries
[19:59] <MeQuerSat> if you setup your drive as GPT you can have more than 4 primary partitions btw
[20:00] <greves> MeQuerSat, d: should be primary too or no?
[20:00] <greves> i don't see how that works if it comes after /swap and its primary
[20:00] <MeQuerSat> why not set the drive up as GPT?
[20:01] <MeQuerSat> then you can have them all as primary
[20:01] <greves> oh ok
[20:01] <greves> do i need to switch a jumper for that or it's in BIOS or... ?
[20:01] <gatito> hola
[20:01] <martianlobster> here is a listing of /dev   http://codepad.org/oxtz0uen
[20:01] <orzo> Hello.  I understand the ubuntu .iso image works as a live cd.  This is via isolinux, non-emulated el torito, right?  I also believe these same images work as usb stick images.   Is there anything special that is done to make a dual-use image like this?
[20:01] <MeQuerSat> greves, no, you can change it via a livecd
[20:02] <MeQuerSat> its just how you format the hard drive
[20:02] <jaylad> ive tryed using tried using chown and its still saying i have no permissions for that user
[20:02] <MeQuerSat> jaylad, did you use "sudo" ?
[20:02] <greves> MeQuerSat: ah, so i should do that before i install win7?
[20:02] <jaylad> well im logged in as root so theres no need to
[20:03] <MeQuerSat> greves: 	Yes, all versions can use GPT partitioned disks for data. Booting is only supported for 64-bit editions on UEFI-based systems.
[20:04] <MeQuerSat> so windows 7 can only boot if you have an UEFI based system, do you have that?
[20:04] <greves> MeQuerSat: i believe so. MSI h61ma-e35 b3
[20:05] <MeQuerSat> I think thats uefi indewed
[20:05] <MeQuerSat> indeed*
[20:06] <MeQuerSat> the way I did it was boot from an ubuntu live cd, open gparted and formatted the hdd with partition table GPT
[20:07] <greves> hmm. i'm just reading about putting program files on another drive, apparently it's not recommended by many people
[20:07] <Si2100> you trying to dual boot Ubuntu n 7 ?
[20:07] <Gentoo64> greves, what program files?
[20:07] <MeQuerSat> greves, thats why I said a 30gb C:/ ;)
[20:08] <greves> MeQuerSat ah.... well if i'm installing stuff like adobe and office probably need more than 30gb...
[20:08] <RoadsterGT> HEY
[20:08] <MeQuerSat> yeah, maybe 50 or 60 would be appropriate
[20:08] <RoadsterGT> how can i install gpu driver?
[20:08] <Si2100> greves, give it a 250gb
[20:09] <wolfmitchell> The unity sidebar does not show if Firefox is maximised, but it does everywhere else.
[20:09] <greves> i'm almost tempted to just go full ubuntu, and if it weren't for office i would
[20:09] <greves> afaik theres not exactly a very reliable way to run MS office in linux.. no?
[20:09] <Si2100> greves, you could put Office under wine ?
[20:09] <MeQuerSat> greves: I went full ubuntu and just put Windows in a virtual machine in Ubuntu
[20:09] <MeQuerSat> Office + wine = fail
[20:09] <wolfmitchell> Nvm, it finally decided to work
[20:09] <greves> ya wine won't do i think
[20:09] <RoadsterGT> How to install proprietary graphics driver?
[20:09] <Si2100> does
[20:10] <greves> i am basically going to use the computer as an HTPC
[20:10] <Si2100> i got Office 2007
[20:10] <MeQuerSat> Im talking about the latest Office
[20:10] <greves> will ubuntu have any video file format problems?
[20:10] <MeQuerSat> 2003/2007 work, kinda
[20:10] <Si2100> yeah
[20:10] <Si2100> i use Thunderbird for Email
[20:10] <MeQuerSat> greves: file format problems? not at all
[20:10] <MeQuerSat> video display problems? maybe
[20:10] <greves> ah...
[20:10] <bekks> greves: codec problems is what you are meaning...
[20:11] <greves> i want to run from the motherboards HDMI to 1920x1080 TV
[20:11] <MeQuerSat> RoadsterGT, amd or nvidia?
[20:11] <greves> bekks yes codec sorry
[20:11] <RoadsterGT> Medjai, nvidia
[20:11] <MeQuerSat> greves, youre using a sandybridge i3 ?
[20:11] <greves> MeQuerSat sandy bridge celeron g530 (onboard graphics)
[20:11] <MeQuerSat> ouch
[20:12] <Medjai> What's that RoadsterGT ?
[20:12] <greves> hey i'm not gaming here and reviews all say g530 can more than handle 1080p which is all i need
[20:12] <MeQuerSat> I currently have a Intel Pentium G620 on a Z68 motherboard
[20:12] <greves> plus i can drop in an ivy bridge later next year :)
[20:12] <MeQuerSat> and I will drop ivy bridge in too :P
[20:12] <MeQuerSat> but its pretty hard to display video without tearing
[20:12] <greves> so will ubuntu have any problems showing 1920x1080 resolution on the tv?
[20:13] <RoadsterGT> Medjai, nvidia 9600m gt
[20:13] <RoadsterGT> MeQuerSat,
[20:13] <RoadsterGT> sorry
[20:13] <Medjai> lol I thought you meant him
[20:13] <MeQuerSat> greves: you should really try it and see for yourself
[20:13] <Medjai> just making sure
[20:13] <greves> MeQuerSat: is that because onboard video drivers are lacking?
[20:13] <MeQuerSat> RoadsterGT, so "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current"
[20:13] <MeQuerSat> greves: no, because drivers for Linux are lacking
[20:14] <RoadsterGT> sweet
[20:14] <RoadsterGT> ty MeQuerSat
[20:14] <greves> MeQuerSat: that's what i mean. i know it will work fine in win7, but if it's going to have issues playing 1080p smoothly in ubuntu that will be a deal breaker
[20:15] <MeQuerSat> greves: I have a better setup than you and Im having difficulties getting good 1080p playback
[20:15] <greves> MeQuerSat drats... well, then maybe that will just rule out ubuntu altogether...
[20:15] <MeQuerSat> if better intel video drivers get released, no problem
[20:15] <MeQuerSat> but atm :/
[20:15] <brondy> how do i edit the grub menu to make one partition the default and get rid of all the extra kernels  - this is 10 04 lts
[20:15] <greves> MeQuerSat 720p no issues i suppose?
[20:15] <MeQuerSat> well, tearing
[20:16] <brontosaurusrex> greves, MeQuerSat so this intel gpus are supposed to have some sort of h264 decoding support, right?
[20:16] <MeQuerSat> yeah, but its a pita to get that working under Linux
[20:16] <MeQuerSat> greves: an ubuntu install will take 20 minutes
[20:16] <brontosaurusrex> MeQuerSat, how is the technology called , was it quicksand or something like that?
[20:16] <MeQuerSat> greves: just give it a try
[20:17] <greves> MeQuerSat: are you using these? http://intellinuxgraphics.org/2011Q3.html
[20:17] <MeQuerSat> greves: im using the official ubuntu drivers
[20:17] <MeQuerSat> probably the same as you posted
[20:17] <brontosaurusrex> i have a smooth 1080p playback on an eee asus, but thats well supported nvidia ion
[20:17] <MeQuerSat> 2.17.0 here atm
[20:17] <brontosaurusrex> with nvidia drivers that is
[20:18] <greves> well wtf is wrong with intel that they can't put out decent linux drivers
[20:18] <MeQuerSat> well, playback is pretty smooth
[20:18] <MeQuerSat> except for tearing
[20:19] <MeQuerSat> cant wait for the intel devs to implement a working vsync option
[20:19] <greves> hmmm
[20:19] <greves> well, maybe i'll give it a shot
[20:20] <greves> what is good virtualization software to install windows under?
[20:20] <gmzlj> MeQuerSat: try mplayer-vaapi
[20:20] <greves> and will my g530 handle that ok?
[20:20] <gmzlj> MeQuerSat: don't know how to find it for ubuntu
[20:20] <MeQuerSat> gmzlj, like I said before: its a pita to get that working
[20:20] <dougl> does anyone have any suggestions for an alternative (more full featured/options) to the open gl screen saver that comes with ubuntu 10??
[20:20] <MeQuerSat> greves: probably not
[20:20] <gmzlj> MeQuerSat: vo=vaapi and it just works for me
[20:20] <MeQuerSat> greves: but just give it a try
[20:20] <greves> MeQuerSat: yeah, perhaps
[20:20] <MeQuerSat> gmzlj, standard mplayer isnt built with vaapi
[20:21] <gmzlj> MeQuerSat: yes, theres a fork
[20:21] <MeQuerSat> gmzlj, care to give me a link?
[20:21] <greves> MeQuerSat: would booting from a usb be a good enough representation of 1080p playback capabilities?
[20:22] <gmzlj> archlinux packages mplayer-vaapi, which is where i use it
[20:22] <gmzlj> so i don't know about ubuntu
[20:22] <MeQuerSat> oh, ok
[20:22] <jaylad> ok when i add a new user they don't have any permissions to their home folder but they can view files outside their home folder but not in. ive tried chown user /home/user to the user and its still not working. any help?
[20:22] <gmzlj> but its in archlinux's community so its supported
[20:22] <theadmin> gmzlj: lol, using Arch too?
[20:22] <MeQuerSat> greves: yeah, it would be
[20:22] <gmzlj> yes
[20:23] <w1res> hi guys, I made a script I want to run when ubuntu starts up (for x11), what is the best location to put it?
[20:23] <dougl> does anyone have any suggestions for an alternative (more full featured/options) to the open gl slide show screen saver that comes with ubuntu 10.4 - err?
[20:23] <greves> MeQuerSat: ok i'll download the liveusb then and try that first... thanks for all the information. cheers!
[20:23] <MeQuerSat> greves: oh, make sure to get the 64bit variant ;)
[20:23] <theadmin> w1res: Search for "Startup Applications" in the dash
[20:23] <gmzlj> theadmin: yes, why?
[20:24] <Mitochondria> Running linux off a USB drive should be alright to play video files in 1080P. Assuming the system can handle it
[20:24] <greves> MeQuerSat, yup already downloading
[20:24] <theadmin> gmzlj: Ah not much, just I myself am an Arch user as well :D Mind pm'ing me?
[20:24] <jaylad> ok when i add a new user they don't have any permissions to their home folder but they can view files outside their home folder but not in. ive tried chown user /home/user to the user and its still not working. any help?
[20:24] <w1res> theadmin: that's what I used to start the script, but I just put it in my user directory, is that ok?
[20:24] <greves> i'll just throw a 1080p file on the usb stick to try playing
[20:24] <Mitochondria> UNetbootin allows for the installation of various Linux/BSD distributions to a partition or USB drive, so it's no different from a standard install, only it doesn't need a CD. It can create a dual-boot install, or replace the existing OS entirely.
[20:24] <theadmin> w1res: Sure, though a better place is ~/bin or ~/.local/bin
[20:25] <greves> ah i love 50Mbps line... download already complete :)
[20:25] <MeQuerSat> 50mbps? tsss
[20:25] <MeQuerSat> 120mbit ;)
[20:25] <w1res> thanks
[20:26] <MeQuerSat> but yeah, gotta love the ubuntu servers
[20:26] <jaylad> is any one here any good with unix file permissions?
[20:26] <lkwells_> I have a question about a graphics card?
[20:26] <bekks> lkwells_: Maybe you have a question? :)
[20:26] <MeQuerSat> jaylad, what did the command line say when you did a "sudo -i"
[20:26] <Mitochondria> Ubuntu servers ****ing me, or perhaps linux just hates my wireless card.
[20:26] <theadmin> jaylad: Most of us are.
[20:27] <jaylad> i didn't sudo im logged in as root
[20:27] <lkwells_> yep i guess i need one for ubuntu 11,10 o?
[20:27] <Sidewinder1> jaylad, That sounds strange; I know that's not helping but if a new user doesn't have access to their own /home, perhaps you set it up incorrectly? Just a WAG on my part..
[20:27] <MeQuerSat> jaylad, then what did the command line say after you did the "chown"
[20:27] <alien2050> jaylad: did you try a chown -R (recursive) otherwise it won't work
[20:28] <alien2050> there are a lot of dot files in users home directories
[20:28] <jaylad> nothing just did it but the user still doesn't have any file permissions
[20:28] <greves> MeQuerSat: dunno about yours but mine is just a personal home connection for ~$30/month :)
[20:28] <alien2050> be sure you're IN the /home directory
[20:28] <alien2050> of the user
[20:28] <junglejim> Hi, anyone know what happened to the Karmic archives? They were there last week on http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ but now they are no longer there ????
[20:28] <MeQuerSat> greves, 70 euros/moth here :/
[20:29] <theadmin> junglejim: Karmic is EOL, so no big surprise.
[20:29] <alien2050> otherwise you can scrap a lot of things
[20:29] <greves> MeQuerSat: including ~500 channels of IPTV
[20:29] <greves> MeQuerSat and the iptv digital box, etc
[20:29] <MeQuerSat> greves: who watches tv anymore?
[20:29] <greves> MeQuerSat: my girlfriend watches all the import korean and indian soap operas here (taiwan)... hah
[20:29] <lkwells_> it told me it would have trouble since it didn't reconize the VGA card i had (on the motherboard)
[20:29] <greves> MeQuerSat: can't download those on BT
[20:30] <MeQuerSat> yeah, cant download something that horrible
[20:30] <greves> exactly
[20:31] <junglejim> theadmin: Hmmm ... so what happens now? I'm currently on Maverick but I use the PHP from Karmic (5.2.x) as some of my software only works with 5.2.x
[20:31] <penguin_03> i built some packages from deb-source the version i labeled them is the same as currently provided in the repos however the update manager seems to want to overwrite them is there a way to fix this?
[20:31] <theadmin> junglejim: Now? Well, everything Karmic-related will be removed from everywhere but http://old-releases.ubuntu.com
[20:31] <lkwells_> the display works but has very slow refresh rate
[20:32] <jaylad> just created a new user now and its saying this when i log in "Could not chdir to home directory /home/jamiepptest: Permission denied
[20:32] <jaylad> -bash: /home/jamiepptest/.bash_profile: Permission denied
[20:32] <jaylad> "
[20:33] <luca_bi> I'm using OCRfeeder but the text is not the same that pdf
[20:33] <greves> MeQuerSat: gotta get to sleep, 4:30am. cya
[20:33] <luca_bi> How can I do?
[20:33] <dj_who> hi all
[20:33] <luca_bi> I want to transform a pdf in a file text
[20:33] <luca_bi> or in a file cvs
[20:33] <dj_who> I have problem with dvb-t on ubuntu
[20:33] <junglejim> theadmin: so that means that there are no more updates especially security updates for Karmic. How do I get to use PHP 5.2.x then  ... as all the new versions of ubuntu install PHP 5.3.x ??
[20:33] <luca_bi> because  i want to put them on line
[20:34] <dj_who> can somebody help
[20:34] <luca_bi> how can i do?
[20:34] <dj_who> ?
[20:34] <penguin_03> i built some packages from deb-source the version i labeled them is the same as currently provided in the repos however the update manager seems to want to overwrite them is there a way to fix this?
[20:34] <yeats> !details | dj_who
[20:35] <yeats> !pin | penguin_03
[20:36] <lkwells_> any hardware wizards here?
[20:36] <kathikeyan> Hey, What's wrong?
[20:37] <penguin_03> yeats, that doesn't really fix the problem if there (really) are updates available for the package i want to see them and probably install them too
[20:37] <lkwells_> well i need a video card for 11.10?
[20:38] <dj_who> Ubuntu 11.10 DVB-t card: MD95700 modules seems to load properly, femon and tzap showing than are  about 40% siglan 100%snr  ber andunc are "0" but when i'm trying to watch in vlc i get "scrambled" picture
[20:38] <lkwells_> when 11.10 installed it said graphics would have problems but i installed anyway
[20:38] <kathikeyan> you running dual boot
[20:38] <kathikeyan> ?
[20:39] <dj_who> what is interesting on the top of the picture i see "good" picsels
[20:39] <lkwells_> no just ubuntu nothing else
[20:39] <dj_who> so i no for example what station is playing now
[20:39] <luca_bi> How can I convert a pdf scannered in a file cvs
[20:39] <luca_bi> ?
[20:39] <kathikeyan> i had the same issue when i use both windows and ubuntu
[20:40] <kathikeyan> now, it is fine, i am using only ubunut
[20:40] <AlTheKiller> Anyone know if there's a way to tell ubiquity not to install the bootloader?
[20:40] <skilz> Anyone know an OSD program that works with Fluxbox to show volume when I change it & when I press caps lock ect?
[20:40] <penguin_03> yeats, did you notice the part where it says "so you should probably not do this on an Ubuntu system."?
[20:41] <jaylad> i add a new user and they don't have permissions to their home folder. whats the best course of action?
[20:41] <win2linux> ? How can I fix synaptic, it wont start when i click on icon, if I do gksudo it doesn't start and if i use sudo only it bounces on then off I have removed and purged it and reinstalled it same thing
[20:41] <lkwells_> can anyone recommend a graphics card for 11.10?
[20:41] <dj_who> also i try to record TS stream and play it on windows and it is broken
[20:42] <dj_who> so i know that TS decoding is working properly
[20:42] <skilz> lkwells_, A $50 one
[20:42] <jaylad> mequersat
[20:42] <fish__> hello, I am having trouble starting ubuntu could someone please help me.
[20:42] <lkwells_> skitz great
[20:42] <jaylad> mequersat,
[20:43] <wapiflapi> hi
[20:43] <phibxr> fish__, if you describe your trouble, it's going to be a bit easier for someone to help you out.
[20:43] <lkwells_> skitz i missed the model and company sorry
[20:43] <dj_who> that's everything i think, anyone can help?
[20:45] <MeQuerSat> jaylad, yes?
[20:45] <jaylad> i add a new user and they don't have permissions to their home folder. whats the best course of action?
[20:46] <MeQuerSat> exactly as I described earlier...
[20:46] <fish__> okay.when i boot, it goes to the console and i get a message saying "Stopping System V runlevel compatibility" *starting CUPS printing spooler/server could someone please help??
[20:46] <jaylad> what was that
[20:46] <jaylad> ?
[20:46] <bekks> jaylad: How do you add them? did you create their folders before? If so, dont do it.
[20:46] <lkwells_> can anyone recommend a graphics card for 11.10?
[20:46] <jaylad> i just typed adduser
[20:46] <jaylad> and the username
[20:46] <dj_who> femon saying:
[20:46] <dj_who> options dvb_usb_cxusb force_lna_activation=1
[20:47] <dj_who> soty
[20:47] <dj_who> sory
[20:47] <dj_who> femon saying: status SCVYL | signal  45% | snr 100% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
[20:48] <lkwells_> hello?
[20:48] <bekks> !hcl | lkwells_
[20:49] <fish__> Stopping system V runlevel compatibility  starting cups printing spooler/server I get this error when trying to start ubuntu
[20:50] <fellayaboy> !wacom
[20:50] <fellayaboy> how do i install wacom tablets for 11.04
[20:51] <awdwd> Hi, can i use the Wubi installer to get 64bit ubuntu? or is it only for 32bit ubuntu?
[20:52] <dssdsd> sdssd
[20:53] <stephen_> greetings from Tanzania!
[20:53] <MeQuerSat> lkwells_, any nvidia card
[20:54] <lkwells_> thanks MeQuerSat
[20:55] <lkwells_> so nvidia cards are evga also?
[20:55] <lkwells_> i mean that is one of their brands?
[20:55] <bekks> evga? never heard of it.
[20:56] <yeats> lkwells_: yes - I have an evga nvidia card
[20:57] <ManaPirated> jump #debian
[20:57] <Shirakawasuna> I'm having issues resolving certain hosts (I think). I've tried different DNS but not much improvement (I normally use 8.8.8.8, tried 4.2.21, now using ISPs). e.g. I try to load this page: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/marlin-gets-unity-progress-bar-support.html#more and it just sits there after loading a small amount of the page, presumably waiting for the rest of the elements to load (perhaps on another server - image server, et
[20:57] <Shirakawasuna> c).
[20:57] <FloodBot1> Shirakawasuna: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:58] <Shirakawasuna> now google is doing it :/
[20:59] <liuxu> aha
[20:59] <bowie> hi, everybody! :)
[21:00] <bowie> guys, I;m sorry for noobish questions and for asking them here, but maybe somebody knows what is sgfxi thing is?
[21:00] <bowie> i need to install video driver
[21:00] <bowie> and have no idea how does it work
[21:01] <UncleTuna> help.ubuntu.com
[21:02] <Sidewinder1> bowie, Please state the graphics card under use..
[21:02] <Shirakawasuna> bowie: I've never used it... so I don't know whether it's necessary.
[21:02] <bowie> i have nvidia fx 5500
[21:03] <Shirakawasuna> hmmm
[21:03] <Shirakawasuna> I think I had one of those once
[21:03] <Shirakawasuna> is that AGP, bowie?
[21:04] <Sidewinder1> bowie, Have you enabled "Restricted Extras" in your repositories in Synaptic?
[21:04] <xangua> !nvidia | bowie
[21:04] <bowie> actually I'm using AV linux which is based on debian and I'm sorry for asking such question there but Instructions on the web site gave me nothing :(
[21:04] <default__> I Can help irssi in Portugueses please
[21:04] <yeats> !pt | default__
[21:04] <Shirakawasuna> bowie: k... well ubuntu has some helper apps that debian doesn't for this kind of thing.
[21:04] <Sidewinder1> Yea, what xangua and ubottu said..
[21:05] <bowie> y..
[21:05] <Shirakawasuna> bowie: you're going to need to install an older version-type of the nvidia driver, most likely. It's part of the NV30 series.
[21:05] <fluvvell> long term ubuntu user seeks help with failed upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10. No desktop controls, unity not running, no gnome-panel. Have run apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and no success even with all user settings in home directory hidden in a backup folder.
[21:05] <Sidewinder1> bowie, Gotta read the "how-tos".
[21:06] <Shirakawasuna> bowie: though you might also be able to use nouveau - do you need high-performance graphics for gaming?
[21:06] <escott> fluvvell, have you tried installing and choosing unity-2d from the login menu
[21:06] <Shirakawasuna> fluvvell: try making a new test user and logging in with them - it's better than attempting to find all user settings
[21:07] <fluvvell> escott, nope, just did and thanks. so whats the deal there?
[21:07] <bowie> in fact
[21:07] <bowie> yes
[21:07] <bowie> really
[21:07] <bowie> for game dev
[21:07] <FloodBot1> bowie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:07] <Space-Duck> How can I enable mod_rewrite in xubuntu? I've already change allow_override all  but I still get a 404.
[21:07] <fluvvell> I have an ASUS motherboard with built in intel graphics, surely this is fairly standard?
[21:07] <escott> fluvvell, if unity 2d is working but unity is not then its a video card issue. you may need to install proprietary drivers with jockey-gtk to get your video card to work
[21:08] <fluvvell> escott, will do that now.
[21:08] <yeats> Space-Duck: 'sudo a2enmod rewrite'?
[21:08] <Shirakawasuna> bowie: k. That's actually a really old card to be using for that. Or is it a quadro fx 5500?
[21:08] <fluvvell> escott, intel graphics needs proprietory drivers???
[21:08] <escott> fluvvell, if your graphics are intel then there are no proprietary drivers for that. its possible that an older intel may not be supported well enough for unity
[21:09] <fluvvell> escott, motherboard less than a year old!!
[21:09] <Space-Duck> yeats, ERROR: Module rewrite not properly enabled: /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/rewrite.load is a real file, not touching it
[21:09] <bowie> Shirakawasuna, no, but i need it for old school 8 bit games, without driver it will lag ;(
[21:09] <bekks> fluvvell: That doesnt mean it has a current graphics chipset onboard.
[21:09] <escott> fluvvell, what kind of chipset do you have
[21:09] <brontosaurusrex> Space-Duck, did you restart server?
[21:10] <fluvvell> escott, intel 915 i think, just going to look now
[21:10] <Space-Duck> brontosaurusrex, yep. I made touched the rewrite.load file when I edited it
[21:10] <Space-Duck> Do I need to chmod it?
[21:11] <Shirakawasuna> bowie: ok, so two options
[21:11] <Shirakawasuna> bowie: 1) proprietary driver, probably need to use one of the older packages: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#non-free_drivers
[21:11] <Shirakawasuna> bowie: so this will be nvidia-173 or nvidia-96, you'll have to see which one support geforce 5 / NV30 cards
[21:11] <Shirakawasuna> bowie: 2) nouveau with gallium 3d. This is still experimental, but might 'just work'.
[21:12] <yeats> Space-Duck: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1180112
[21:12] <fluvvell> escott, i915 driver loaded, lspci reports intel integrated graphics. i5 motherboard iirc
[21:12] <bowie> Shira, tnx, bro, but the problem is i don't know how to install it
[21:12] <bowie> i mean i'm a noob
[21:13] <crassus> Hi, so is there anyway I can sync my ebooks on my Ubuntu computer with my Nook, other than Calibre?
[21:13] <dr_willis> the addational-drivers tool is the normal way to install nvidia drivers.
[21:13] <Shirakawasuna> bowie: that first link should help you out - it includes installation instructions for debian.
[21:13] <fluvvell> bekks, how current would it need to be???? since when did ubuntu only support the most current of video drivers?
 thanks a lot!
[21:14] <bekks> fluvvell: No one said that.
[21:14] <bekks> fluvvell: That was a remark regarding a very special chipset mentioned.
[21:15] <spoq> yo ubuntu
[21:15] <escott> fluvvell, intel marketing always confuses me. i dont understand how you can have 915 and core i5 in the same system
[21:16] <fluvvell> bekks, sorry not following re: very special chipset.
[21:16] <Shirakawasuna> bowie: np! Just make sure you're using the right version. I *think* you want -173, but I'm not positive.
[21:16] <fluvvell> escott, just reporting lsmod
[21:16] <escott> fluvvell, if you have something marketed as a pentium or a centrino then you actually have a chip that is a few years old
[21:17] <fluvvell> escott, I put the motherboard in, and unless im mistaken (which i'll know once i dig out the box) its cpu is an i5
[21:17] <Space-Duck> yeats, I followed the steps there and still get a 404.  a2enmod rewrite: returns: Module rewrite already enabled
 yup, i used it in ubuntu (it was easy to install there) just need to find how to make it work on this distro :)
[21:18] <ryan__> Hi. Is there a way I can install programs from older Ubuntu repositories using Ubuntu 11.10?
[21:18] <jrib> ryan__: like?
[21:18] <ryan__> Natty is what I was wanting to install from
[21:18] <jrib> ryan__: what software?
[21:18] <escott> fluvvell, i dont think anything currently marketed as a core i-series has a 915 anything in it
[21:18] <jrib> !who | ryan__
[21:18]  * dr_willis hops this isent anotehr person trying to install gnome2 again. :)
[21:19] <fluvvell> escott, i wonder if that kernel module shouldn't be there then?
[21:19] <ryan__> jrib: I wanted to install the package ubuntu-wallpapers
[21:19] <win2linux> ?
[21:20] <dr_willis> ryan__:  you could always just get the .deb of it and extact the wallpapers if you wanted the images
[21:20] <ryan__> How can I do that?
[21:20] <jrib> ryan__: isn't that still available? Did some wallpapers get lost?  I would just do what dr_willis suggested if so
[21:20] <fluvvell> escott, its a p7h55-m ASUS motherboard, and therefore either an i3 or an i5
[21:20] <xangua> !info ubuntu-wallpapers | ryan__
[21:20] <dr_willis> i got 10gb of wallpapers ive collected. :) i dont worry about them much
[21:21] <ryan__> I didn't upgrade, it was a fresh install. I do not currently have the natty wallpapers.
[21:21] <escott> fluvvell, 915 is what the driver is called in lsmod. i thought you were reading that from your lspci
[21:21] <dr_willis> mosyt likely any old wallpapers are avail in some repo packages.
[21:21] <MVanDruff> does anyone know how to set up a media share so that i can stream video music and pictures to say an x box or a ps3
[21:21] <win2linux> Syanptic package manager doesn't start when i click on icon, when i use terminal gksudo it doesn't start and when I use sudo it bounces on then off instantly and i have an error message or somthing, i've removed it and purged all config files and reinstalled it again same thing happens using gnome 3 classic on 11.10 any suggestions
[21:21] <fluvvell> escott, sorry for the confusion, i did both and reported both.
[21:22] <dr_willis> MVanDruff:  meditomb can do that.. perhaps other 'dlna' servers can also..  i imagine most can
[21:22] <vvompy> hi, I encrypted via GUI half a year ago my external partition and wrote down the generated passphrase, but forgot the password that I had to type in every time when I opened the encrypted filesystem via the GUI. I thought the password is not necessary, do I still have a possibility to reopen my hdd?
[21:22] <escott> fluvvell, what does glxinfo | grep renderer say
[21:23] <Pelo> I get realy crappy scrolling with the mouse wheel in firefox, how do I fix that ?
[21:23] <MVanDruff> dr_willis, is meditomb in the repository?
[21:23] <bazhang> MVanDruff, mediatomb
[21:23] <dr_willis> MVanDruff:  try an apt-cache search and see...
[21:23] <xangua> Pelo: disable smooth scroll on firefox preferences
[21:24] <fluvvell> escott, cool! thanks, haven't used that one before :-) Open renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ironlake Desktop x86/MMX/SSE2
[21:24] <ryan__> How can I install the .deb file of the Ubuntu Natty wallpapers in Ubuntu 11.10 (the package ubuntu-wallpapers)
[21:24] <escott> vvompy, it depends on what kind of encryption this is, but usually you have a short password 8-16 characters that you can remember which unlocks a longer file with a full length key of some kind. so if you have that original unencrypted file
[21:24] <dr_willis> ryan__: get the .deb  and sudo dpkg -i foo.deb  is one way
[21:24] <escott> fluvvell, that looks good
[21:24] <fluvvell> :)
[21:24] <escott> fluvvell, does glxgears work
[21:24] <Pelo> xangua, nothing ,
[21:25] <fluvvell> escott, a bit clunky but yes.
[21:25] <Pelo> xangua, if it helps, it's like the scroll wheels makes it scroll 1/8"
[21:25] <escott> fluvvell, it should be smooth (even if it were fully cpu it should still be smooth)
[21:26] <fluvvell> ie not smoothly. on this laptop (a much older hp) its smoothe as butter.
[21:26] <vvompy> escott: i guess it was ecryptfs..do you know how to test my passphrase ?
[21:26] <geekette86> slt
[21:26] <escott> fluvvell, then something is off. you should be getting a framerate=to your refresh rate. what are you getting
[21:27] <fluvvell> escott, yes framerate reading off at 60fps, but it sure as heck isn't
[21:27] <dj_who> fluvvell try vblank_mode=0 glxgears
[21:29] <Zeranoe> How can I tell where my flash drive is mounted from? Such as /dev/xxx, how can I find which one corresponds to my flashdrive?
[21:29] <fluvvell> dj_who, Ahh!! just rebooting, I had 5 X sessions running apparently!!!!!!
[21:30] <escott> vvompy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[21:31] <escott> Zeranoe, type "mount" at the command line and it will tell you what is mounted where
[21:31] <ryan__> How can I find the .deb package of a certain file from the Ubuntu repositories, and then install it using terminal?
[21:31] <blackwire> i have a little problem
[21:31] <fluvvell> escott, dj_who, still jerky gears.
[21:31] <escott> Zeranoe, sudo blkid will map uuids to devices
[21:32] <MVanDruff> dr_willis, according to media tomb it should already be here how do i enable it?
[21:32] <escott> ryan__, install and use apt-file or use packages.ubuntu.com
[21:32] <dbugger> Hey guys!
[21:32] <dbugger> What is the folder for the Gedit plugins? I cant seem to find it...
[21:32] <enigma> hi any have ideas for this >>    Cannot install 'ia32-libs'      is comes then i try istall skype in ubuntu 11.10
[21:33] <dr_willis> MVanDruff:  no idea.  read its docs/guides.
[21:33] <dr_willis> MVanDruff:  i just recall reading it was designed to do that.
[21:35] <Kasei1> hey guys, i have a problem with my ethernet, it is only runing on 10Mbps. Card and router support 100Mbps. using ethtool -s eth0 speed 100 duplex full autoneg on leads to a disconnect of the connection, setting it back to 10 duplex full autoneg on let me connect again
[21:35] <alessandro97> xdcc send
[21:35] <Kasei1> its an Atheros AR8121/AR8113/AR8114
[21:35] <alessandro97> pd
[21:35] <escott> enigma, the way i386 is handled has changed in 11:10. it now uses multiarch. you just install package:i386 for the libraries you need. get an updated deb of skype or manually install the dependencies
[21:36] <win2linux> solved my problem, if it happens to anyone go into settings>universal access>toggle screen reader on and off causes synaptic to crash
[21:36] <Effex> Is it possible to stop the screen from powering down after 10 minutes of inactivity while using a fullscreen terminal?
[21:36] <dj_who> I repeat my question more compact:
[21:36] <win2linux> i meant screen reader causes synaptic to crash toggling it on then off fixes the problem
[21:36] <dr_willis> Effex:  you mean the console? or in an X terminal?
[21:36] <Effex> Console
[21:37] <dj_who> Ubuntu 11.10 DVB-t card: MD95700 modules seems to load properly, femon and tzap showing than are  about 40% siglan 100%snr  ber andunc are "0" but when i'm trying to watch in vlc i get "scrambled" picture.
[21:37] <dj_who> What is interesting that on the top of the picture i see "good" picsels. So i no for example what station is playing now, also i try to record TS stream and play it on windows and it is broken , so i know that TS decoding is working properly. Femon saying: status SCVYL | signal  45% | snr 100% | ber 0 | unc 0 | FE_HAS_LOCK
[21:37] <FloodBot1> dj_who: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:37] <dr_willis> Effex:  theres a setting for it.. but i forget where/how.
[21:37] <escott> fluvvell, im afraid im not sure how to debug this. you can doublecheck that the glxinfo is correct and look through the /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:37] <ResQue> i am running ubuntu 11.04 and something seems to be randomly changeing the start location of the stack, i need to disable this any ideas? maybe its grsecurity or apparmor
[21:38] <dj_who> any one can help?
[21:38] <phaktor> I just updated to Ubuntu 11.10, and now it does not detect any HID devices (mouse/keyboard) that I plug in. Anybody have any information about this type of bug?
[21:38] <enigma> thankyou
[21:39] <escott> ResQue, try disabling through /proc https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Features#Address_Space_Layout_Randomisation_.28ASLR.29
[21:40] <fluvvell> escott, i'm not highly impressed with this upgrade. My experience has been that the one before a long term release seems to be the most fraught with "user suprise!!" issues, oneric is no exeption.
[21:40] <ResQue> escott: thanks, sounds like what i need.
[21:41] <nyarlatotep> hello everybody
[21:41] <fluvvell> however, I've got it working at least in ubuntu 2D. But this system is fully capable of much more. I'll go digging in the Xorg Logs
[21:41] <nyarlatotep> is there anyone with Sony Vaio f11?
[21:41] <escott> fluvvell, you might try reinstalling. but the core i-series should be well supported
[21:41] <genii-around> phaktor: Did the machine just warm reboot, or actual power-off power-on cycle since the upgrade?
[21:42] <phaktor> genii-around : I'm pretty sure I've done both. I'll go power cycle it again (just rebooted over ssh and it seems to be hanging)
[21:43] <fluvvell> escott, yes I'd agree with the support expectations. Funny how if i try to switch back to the 3d desktop I just get background picture.
[21:44] <escott> fluvvell, you could try and start unity from tty1 (you will have to export DISPLAY=:0 firt
[21:45] <escott> fluvvell, just run unity --replace from tty1 after setting the display variable
[21:45] <nimbiotics> hello evry1. Is there a GUI for mencoder any1 can recomend? TIA!
[21:45] <morri> hoi guys
[21:45] <silvina> hhgggfg
[21:45] <bazhang> nimbiotics, winff ?
[21:46] <silvina> kkk
[21:46] <bazhang> silvina, english here please
[21:46] <fluvvell> escott, yep thats working...
[21:46] <UncleTuna> bazhang, that was...no?
[21:46] <nimbiotics> bazhang: but im having trouble converting mkv with multi lang choices in winff
[21:46] <silvina> oh,yes,of course
[21:47] <silvina> hello
[21:47] <bazhang> nimbiotics, converting to what
[21:47] <ResQue> escott: nice work mate, thanks for pointing me in the right direction. if anyone else is interested to disable random stack start location run this "sysctl -w kernel.randomize_va_space=0"
[21:47] <nimbiotics> bazhang: to avi or any other decent format
[21:48] <bazhang> nimbiotics, m4v?
[21:48] <silvina> say me?'
[21:48] <bazhang> silvina, ubuntu support question?
[21:48] <nimbiotics> bazhang: that a package?
[21:48] <silvina> cose dice??
[21:48] <morri> are there any known issues with the cutrrent email programmes such as evolution or thunderbird in terms of connecting to microsoft exchange servers?
[21:48] <brontosaurusrex> nimbiotics, if you are trying to just get rid of extra languages there are better options
[21:48] <bazhang> !it | silvina
[21:48] <junglejim> I need to downgrade my PHP to 5.2.x from 5.3.x  Certain software I currently use requires it. I found all these link explaining how to do it but they no longer work because they show you how to use the Karmic archives to downgrade but as those archives no longer exist on archive.ubuntu.com  http://askubuntu.com/questions/61101/downgrade-php-to-php5-2  http://askubuntu.com/questions/47103/how-to-downgrade-from-php-5-3-to-php-5-2-in-ubunt
[21:48] <phaktor> genii-around : just finished power cycling , No love. I'v'e got one mouse plugged in though a kvm and one straight to the box neither move the cursor. the keyboard is useless aswell.
[21:48] <escott> !pinning | junglejim
[21:49] <nimbiotics> brontosaurusrex: please xplain yourself. I have many different videos, some of them multifiles, and i only need one language
[21:49] <nimbiotics> brontosaurusrex: and all mkv
[21:49] <bazhang> nimbiotics, I use handbrake for that
[21:49] <Sidewinder1> nimbiotics, There is Nero for linux but one has to pay$, I only mention it as it's an alternitive for re-encoding..
[21:50] <j-pad> hey guys, im having a problem when i plug in my headphones my computer mutes
[21:50] <brontosaurusrex> nimbiotics, http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/
[21:50] <brontosaurusrex> nimbiotics, but check if this is in repos first
[21:50] <UncleTuna> plug them into the headphone port...
[21:51] <nimbiotics> brontosaurusrex: OK, THX a lot!
[21:51] <j-pad> yes
[21:51] <genii-around> phaktor: Are you ssh'd in as well?
[21:51] <brontosaurusrex> nimbiotics, it will allow you to remux the videos without reconversions and let you just keep the tracks you need
[21:51] <bazhang> nimbiotics, handbrake is really what you need here
[21:51] <phaktor> genii-around : Yes I can ssh in
[21:51] <nimbiotics> brontosaurusrex: what does remux mean?
[21:51] <brontosaurusrex> nimbiotics, repack
[21:51] <nimbiotics> brontosaurusrex: OIC, thx'
[21:51] <Kellear> hello
[21:52] <genii-around> phaktor: I would suggest to make sure xserver-xorg-input-evdev is installed
[21:52] <escott> j-pad, if you have a newer laptop with intel sound then it could be that that output port for the headphones is being confused with something else (like the digital output) and its just being routed wrong. you might look at debugging hda sound tips from alsa
[21:52] <nimbiotics> bazhang: will also check handbrake, THX
[21:52]  * fluvvell steps back off the tardis a bit dazed...
[21:53] <phaktor> genii-around : already installed
[21:53] <j-pad> ok escot how do i do that?...btw if i leave them plugged in & restart my comp they work but once i unplug them & plug them back in it stops again
[21:53] <escott> j-pad, http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Help_To_Debug_Intel_HDA
[21:54] <Kellear> I just installed a software (lmms), it works fine but it's not in the top-left icon (on xubuntu where are all my softwares icons) how can I put it there?
[21:54] <junglejim> escott: thx ... I'll check it out
[21:54] <UncleTuna> How do I mute server msg's? Join/Exit/Disco/Etc...
[21:54] <bazhang> UncleTuna, what client
[21:55] <UncleTuna> bazhang: 1 moment...
[21:55] <junglejim> ubottu: thx, I'll check it out
[21:55] <phaktor> genii-around : it's like the entire ubs subsystem is not working (I see some hubs but none of the devices I have plugged in)
[21:56] <phaktor> er USB
[21:56] <UncleTuna> this is embarrassing.
[21:57] <magpii> my firestarter firewall keeps stopping. can someone tell me how to produce a log file for it please
[21:58] <JeffM> How can I bridge two network interfaces without losing network connectivity on the bridging computer? I have tried to use IP Route, but it is throwing errors
[21:59] <escott> !ics | JeffM
[21:59] <BluesKaj> JeffM, add the bridged and networked pcs IPs to /etc/hosts.allow , on all machines
[21:59] <genii-around> phaktor: dmesg is not seeing them when plug in/out ?
[22:00] <UncleTuna> mmm, leftovers from T-Day...bbl.
[22:00] <phaktor> genii-around : Nope
[22:01] <genii-around> phaktor: Does that machine have internet?
[22:01] <phaktor> yea
[22:03] <genii-around> phaktor: If you have pastebinit installed, please post the output of apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-input-*
[22:04] <Gardllok> Will an Xbox360 on the same network connect to a ubuntu PC and access its media automatically, or does it require additional 'assembly' to establish connection?
[22:04] <escott> !samba | Gardllok
[22:05] <phaktor> genii-around : http://paste.ubuntu.com/749726/
[22:05] <Christina`> Is it possible to frugal install and format the hard drive (putting on ubuntu)?
[22:06] <Christina`> That is using unetbootin.
[22:06] <pisto> is there a command line to change the volume?
[22:06] <JeffM> Blueskaj, trying it out.  I am trying to set up my Ubuntu machine as a Wireless Access Point, with DHCP done on the router
[22:06] <pisto> with exactly the same effect as pushing the volume up/down keys on keyboard? don't suggest sending virtual keystrokes, I can't use that.
[22:07] <helloworld> Hello! I wonder if it's possible to dualboot windows xp with ubuntu 11.10 by following the steps in this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot . I'm not quite sure if this guide only is for vista and windows 7. Just wanted to know before I format my drive.
[22:07] <Gardllok> okay, so I need an emulator to establish connection to the xbox but what about other streaming devices? Im asking because i want to set a Ubuntu family PC streaming media to various devices on my home network.
[22:08] <genii-around> phaktor: Notably xserver-xorg-input-kbd is not installed
[22:08] <Christina`> Is it possible to frugal install and format the hard drive (putting on ubuntu), using unetbootin?
[22:09] <Gardllok> I guess it would be the same either way....Or would work all together with the one emulator
[22:09] <skilz> how do i change my laptop from blank screen to hibernate when i close lid?
[22:09] <skilz> or suspend even
[22:09] <hayxor> system settings   to   screensaver i think
[22:10] <hayxor> under power managment
[22:11] <Christina`> Is it possible to frugal install and format the hard drive (putting on ubuntu), using unetbootin?
[22:11] <escott> Christina`, what do you mean by frugal
[22:12] <Christina`> escott: Booting off the hard drive using an iso.
[22:12] <phaktor> genii-around : installed and restarted Xserver still no love.
[22:13] <genii-around> phaktor: Please pastebin result of: ls -l /dev/input/by-path/
[22:13] <escott> Christina`, you want to install an iso to the harddrive and boot it that way? yes you can, im not sure why you would want to
[22:14] <phaktor> genii-around : ls: cannot access /dev/input/by-path/: No such file or directory
[22:14] <genii-around> Interesting
[22:15] <genii-around> phaktor: Does /dev/input  exist?
[22:15] <Christina`> escott: I want use -> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ <-- this to "Frugal" ubuntu, and get rid of windows 7.
[22:16] <milen8204> I have a problem, my firefox browser messed up the settings, how to reinstall it  without all old settings ?
[22:16] <rjsj316> how do i install and use bittorrent with linux/ubntu/mint11
[22:16] <escott> Christina`, I still dont know what you mean by frugal. What you are describing is technically possible. I see no reason why you would want to do what you are describing
[22:17] <Effex> Is it possible to change the directory for receiving bluetooth files (Currently Downloads)?
[22:17] <Christina`> escott: I just told you why, I said I wanted to get RID of windows 7.
[22:17] <brontosaurusrex> rjsj316, transmission comes preinstalled
[22:17] <bazhang> !mintsupport | rjsj316
[22:17] <escott> Christina`, so why not do a normal install
[22:18] <Christina`> escott: I don't have a usb drive OR SD card for this netbook. THATS why.
[22:18] <setuid> How do I get Ubuntu (Lucid) to show me a selectable grub menu before the boot splash, so I can pick a kernel before it boots up and asks me for my encrypted password to unlock / ?
[22:19] <phaktor> genii-around /dev/input exits and has mice as the only entry.
[22:19] <phaktor> genii-around I just found an old ps2 keyboard, and it works. so I think it is something with the USB system.
[22:19] <escott> Christina`, without a way to boot your netbook off an external device you will have a brick at the first failure. you should get a usb stick and make yourself a bootable liveusb
[22:20] <escott> setuid, /etc/default/grub has a timeout you can change then rerun update-grub
[22:20] <escott> milen8204, firefox settings are in ~/.mozilla. just rename that directory
[22:21] <genii-around> phaktor: Hm. I would suggest to try: sudo modprobe usbkbd && sudo modprobe usbmouse      ... and then to see if dmesg shows stuff on plug/unplug, as well if /dev/input/  starts to get populated
[22:21] <phaktor> genii-around with the keyboard in I now get a respone from ls -l /dev/input/by-path : http://paste.ubuntu.com/749736/
[22:21] <Christina`> escott: Instead would it work if I just made another partition on the hard drive? And let it delete my other primary partition that has windows so it would be already unmounted and ready to go since it wouldnt be using that partition that would work don;t you think?
[22:22] <escott> Christina`, you cannot repartition an active partition. so you still need an external media device to boot
[22:22] <genii-around> phaktor: Good :) Now to just get it seeing the usb stuff....
[22:22] <milen8204> escott, how can I setup the defout settings ?
[22:22] <phaktor> genii-around : dmesg looks promising with the modprobes I'll go up and look now.
[22:22] <escott> milen8204, just rename that directory and mozilla won't be able to find the old settings
[22:23] <milen8204> escott, thanks
[22:24] <cipherboy_loc> What IR
[22:24] <cipherboy_loc> Sorrym
[22:25] <cipherboy_loc> , what irc app would you recommend for iPad (hence my bad job typing, lol)
[22:25] <tonyyarusso> cipherboy_loc: That sounds like a question for ##apple, unless you've found a way to run Ubuntu on an iPad.
[22:26] <Christina`> Oh God.
[22:26] <Christina`> I'll just stick to Windows before I go through with all this sh**
[22:26] <Christina`> XD
[22:26] <cipherboy_loc> Not yet, tomorrow maybe. :P just thought I would ask here as I mainly run Ubuntu...
[22:27] <Christina`> It's an easier to O.S anyways.
[22:27] <Christina`> Windows^
[22:27] <Christina`> thanks yall.
[22:28] <genii-around> Christina`: If you need help with Ubuntu, this is the right channel. For Windows talk, you can /join ##windows
[22:29] <Effex> Can you use symbolic links on directories or just files?
[22:29] <cipherboy_loc> Directors work
[22:29] <Takyoji> Having difficulty with a USB Bluetooth adapter, not being detected properly (as shown in dmesg, and not listed in hciconfig). Any magic that can be done, or any way I could help with getting the specific model working for Linux users, or any information I could bug the manufacturer for?
[22:29] <cipherboy_loc> Sorry
[22:29] <cipherboy_loc> Directories
[22:29] <genii-around> Effex: Works on directories also, yes
[22:29] <Effex> Cheers
[22:30] <cipherboy_loc> :
[22:30] <Takyoji> This would be the device: http://www.targus.com/us/productdetail.aspx?regionId=7&sku=ACB10US1&PageName=Cables%20&%20Hubs%20Accessories%20by%20Targus&productCategoryId=11&bucketTypeId=0&searchedTerms=&navlevel1=products&cp=&bannertxt=Cables%20%26%20Hubs%20Accessories
[22:30] <cipherboy_loc> Sorry, that was my question
[22:30] <genii-around> phaktor: Any joy yet?
[22:31] <cipherboy_loc> Takyoji not to sound like a broken record,  but have you looked for missing/required drivers?
[22:32] <Takyoji> There are no proprietary drivers for the device.
[22:32] <Element9> how do I find which packages depend on a certain package?
[22:32] <Takyoji> And bluez and all that is already installed.
[22:32] <Element9> so I that I know if it's safe to remove it
[22:33] <phaktor> genii-around : nope the module is register but no devices
[22:33] <dooglus> I'm trying to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10, but update-manager tells me there are no updates available.  how do I upgrade please?
[22:34] <Takyoji> This is the output from dmesg when plugging in the device: http://paste.ubuntu.com/749752/
[22:34] <genii-around> phaktor: Can please pastebin lsmod output?
[22:34] <dooglus> anybody?
[22:35] <phaktor> genii-around http://paste.ubuntu.com/749754/
[22:36] <Takyoji> dooglus: Go to 'Software Sources' and under the 'Updates' tab, make sure you have 'For any new version' for 'Notify me of a new Ubuntu version'
[22:37] <dooglus> Takyoji: thanks.  where is 'software sources'?
[22:37] <Takyoji> System > Administration > Software Sources, I believe.
[22:37] <dooglus> Takyoji: it goes from 'printing' to 'startup'
[22:38] <Takyoji> If not there, go into Synaptic, and it should have 'Repositories' somewhere in one of the menu bar options.
[22:38] <Takyoji> 'Settings > Repositories' in Synaptic
[22:38] <radu_dude> can i make like a "system restore point " in ubuntu because i am nw and i made some settings and i hate to lose them when i try to modify somethings.
[22:39] <bazhang> radu_dude, backups?
[22:39] <radu_dude> yep
[22:39] <Takyoji> radu_dude: The very basic manual way is to just archive the hidden folders in your home directory.
[22:39] <Fuzy> Does anyone know where I can download the ubuntu desktop graphical installer so I can run it from another linux desktop?  I have lvm installed and would like to use the ubuntu graphical installer in debian to install to a new lvm slice
[22:39] <bazhang> radu_dude, got a separate home partition?
[22:40] <bazhang> Fuzy, ubiquity?
[22:40] <Fuzy> hrm
[22:40] <radu_dude> 4 partitions 2 ntfs for windows 1 swap 1 ext4
[22:40] <Fuzy> thank you!
[22:40] <bazhang> radu_dude, a separate home would be the best insurance, along with backups of course
[22:41] <dooglus> Takyoji: I found the update tab.  'show new dist releases' was already set to 'normal releases'
[22:41] <dooglus> Takyoji: the other options are 'never' and 'lts'
[22:41] <Fuzy> this doesn't really help though, there's nothing to download
[22:41] <bazhang> radu_dude, unless you meant something like clonezilla to clone the whole thing
[22:41] <Fuzy> never mind
[22:41] <Takyoji> Have you even had it check for updates, and does it fail with checking for updates, or?
[22:42] <dooglus> Takyoji: it checks for updates, but doesn't find any.  I guess they were applied recently
[22:42] <ravita_kaur> anyone here can help me with vala, i want to change some codes in slingshot
[22:43] <dooglus> Takyoji: it's not my computer.  I'm trying to upgrade it because the owner is mad that it keeps crashing and losing her work.  she's using the 'W' word
[22:43] <FightOppression> hi
[22:43] <radu_dude> bazhang: i can't find clonezilla in software
[22:43] <ravita_kaur> FightOppression : :)
[22:43] <bazhang> radu_dude, check their website
[22:43] <Gami> I have an wired internet connection issue. I've tried a few things that obviously haven't worked. I've tried different web browsers, I've tried changing network settings and I've tried editing config files.
[22:44] <dooglus> sudo apt-get update appears to work fine.
[22:44] <Takyoji> 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' perhaps
[22:44] <radu_dude> bazhang, ok i;l do that
[22:44] <dooglus> Takyoji: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[22:45] <Gami> Any ideas on what I can try?
[22:45] <Takyoji> ahh, "gksu update-manager -c"
[22:45] <Takyoji> For distro upgrade
[22:45] <dooglus> Takyoji: sudo update-manager --dist-upgrade tells me (after a lot of thinking) "there are no upgrades available for your system"
[22:46] <dooglus> Takyoji: Usage: gksu [-u <user>] [options] <command>
[22:47] <widewake> Hey, whats best MSN messenger replacement for Ubuntu?
[22:47] <dooglus> Takyoji: "gksu: invalid option -- 'c'"
[22:47] <widewake> not sure what to use, i see a few online
[22:47] <Takyoji> "update-manager --dist-upgrade" is the correct command, sorry.
[22:48] <dooglus> Takyoji: I'll try 'gksu "update-manager -c"' instead - it works!
[22:48] <Takyoji> (with sudo of course)
[22:48] <dooglus> Takyoji: the --dist-upgrade didn't work - it thought for a long time, but came back saying there were no updates available
[22:48] <dooglus> but the update-manager -c is telling me 11.10 is available
[22:48] <Takyoji> Yea, apparently the '-c' tells it to check for a distro upgrade I guess
[22:49] <qin> dooglus: Is it not: do-release-upgrade ?
[22:49] <dooglus> qin: could be
[22:49] <radu_dude> bazhang, i did a backup with the backup from unity
[22:52] <dooglus> Takyoji: thanks for your help
[22:52] <lucas-arg> i need help! can make kw-ub405-a tv usb stick work under ubuntu!
[22:52] <gary_inNYC> How do I mount my ipod touch 2nd gen to rhythmbox using an openbox session instead of gnome?
[22:52] <Takyoji> You're welcome
[22:52] <Takyoji> lucas-arg: Try toying around with tvtime, it's been the easiest thing for me, "it just works"
[22:52] <dooglus> weird that I had to resort to the command line for something as simple as upgrading
[22:52] <Takyoji> Yea, I know, it's a bit foolish
[22:53] <lucas-arg> Takyoji: doesnt work--- im using v4l from git... can make it work
[22:53] <phaktor> genii-around Thank you for you help, I'll have to beat on it later.
[22:53] <MeQuerSat> anyone having video tearing on intel sandy bridge?
[22:54] <genii-around> phaktor: No prob. Looks like some usb issues, maybe driver for the controller
[22:54] <Takyoji> lucas-arg: See if there's anything known on here http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardware_Device_Information for your model, if listed anywhere on there
[22:55] <lucas-arg> Takyoji: been there...
[22:55] <phaktor> genii-around : yea that was one of my thoughts too . It looks like 11.10 went to the 3.0 kernel and that may be part of the issue. I just don't have all the time I need to trouble shoot it now.
[22:55] <gary_inNYC> anyone know how to mount ipod touch in an openbox session instead of gnome?
[22:56] <Takyoji> I can't think of much myself; tvtime has been really all I've used, as it's pretty much autoconfigured (unlike VLC, which I could never manage to work)
[22:56] <Vampire0> I'm still on Karmic (shame on me) because I didn't have time to do the upgrades yet. I need to install a new package. Is there someone still a repository mirror around? The official sources don't have karmic included anymore. :-(
[22:56] <genii-around> phaktor: Sorry not to resolve the issue. Will be here again on Monday if you still want to work away at it
[22:59] <j-pad> when i plug in my headphones they go mute...i already went to alsamixer & when i unmute the speakers they work but once i unplug the headphones again & plug them back in they are mute again
[23:00] <skilz> j-pad, I have the same problem
[23:00] <skilz> its annoying
[23:00] <piero> Hi! Is my network used as a router to other users when I install tor on Ubuntu?
[23:01] <luca> v identify LucaBiolcati fili1982
[23:01] <chachin> ocuppy #ubuntu
[23:01] <chachin> ocuppy #ubuntu
[23:01] <chachin> ocuppy #ubuntu
[23:01] <chachin> :D
[23:01] <Gardllok> urch
[23:01] <RyuGuns> lol
[23:01] <gmzlj> chachin: but we're the 1%, not the 99%
[23:02] <chachin> lol
[23:02] <Emerling> gmzlj, update 5%
[23:02] <gmzlj> Emerling: whoes number?
[23:03] <Emerling> wait o send link
[23:04] <brianherman> does the server kernel come with xen?
[23:05] <Vampire0> Ok, forget it, found one
[23:05] <gmzlj> brianherman: don't quote me, but i think ubuntu uses kvm
[23:05] <j-pad> does any1 know what i could do for my problem? "when i plug in my headphones they go mute...i already went to alsamixer & when i unmute the speakers they work but once i unplug the headphones again & plug them back in they are mute again"
[23:05] <tanath> how do you change the desktop background in gnome fallback from terminal? gconftool-2 --type string --set /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename "$file" isn't working anymore
[23:05] <brianherman> gmzij: 11.10 has support for xen
[23:06] <gmzlj> tanath: its a dconf setting
[23:06] <gmzlj> tanath: and its gnome-setting that handles it now
[23:06] <avinashhm> Hi friends , i am having an audio cd ; is ther any command to mount it ; 'sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/sr0 /cdrom/' doesn't work ; complains wrong fs type
[23:06] <tanath> gmzlj, gconf is what i'm trying to use..
[23:07] <gmzlj> tanath: its been moved to dconf
[23:07] <fellayaboy> #deviant
[23:07] <gmzlj> 99% sure
[23:07] <tanath> gmzlj, i don't have anything called dconf
[23:07] <fellayaboy> whats an irc channel of art
[23:07] <huzzah_> I'm running Ubuntu now and looking to make a live cd but my download isn't very fast. Is there a way to make a liveCd from my current install?
[23:07] <gmzlj> tanath: /org/gnome/desktop/background/picture-uri
[23:08] <tanath> gmzlj, and the only 'gnome-setting' thing i have is 'gnome-settings-daemon'
[23:08] <tanath> gmzlj, so just change the path to that?
[23:08] <gmzlj> tanath: gnome-setting-deamon handles desktop wallpaper, not nautilus, since gnome 3
[23:08] <gmzlj> tanath: actually my advice may be wrong
[23:08] <gmzlj> i don't know about unity
[23:09] <gmzlj> but the gnome 3 dconf setting sits at /org/gnome/desktop/background/picture-uri
[23:09] <jeffm> Can anybody point me to a good guide to getting hostapd working on just an 'access point' computer? or NAT-less?
[23:09] <gmzlj> tanath: and the tool is gsettings to change dconf settings
[23:10] <tanath> gmzlj, looks to be wrong... i tried the suggested path and it didn't work
[23:10] <gmzlj> tanath: are you using gsettings?
[23:10] <tanath> er, no
[23:11] <genii-around> huzzah_: If you feel brave there is an old but good article on the subject at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=688872
[23:11] <gmzlj> tanath: gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri
[23:12] <gmzlj> that should get you your wallpaper
[23:12] <huzzah_> lank genii-around
[23:12] <huzzah_> thanks*
[23:12] <gmzlj> if it does, change set to get
[23:12] <genii-around> huzzah_: No prob
[23:12] <FFForever> can I reset my apache2 configurations?
[23:12] <tanath> gmzlj, i keep getting usage errors with gsettings. even with that
[23:13] <FFForever> I tried removing the apache2 package, deleting /etc/apache2/, but it seems that I've made a mess of things
[23:13] <gmzlj> tanath: what errors
[23:13] <tanath> gmzlj, having trouble figuring out what it wants
[23:13] <gmzlj> whats the error
[23:13] <gmzlj> exact message
[23:13] <tanath> gmzlj, keeps giving the usage syntax
[23:13] <tanath> gmzlj, trying to follow it, but nothing is working
[23:13] <gmzlj> exact error
[23:14] <tanath> gmzlj, try 'gsettings hoobajoo' and you'll see it
[23:14] <tanath> for isntance
[23:14] <gmzlj> tanath: but thats not remotely valid
[23:14] <gmzlj> gsettings get PATH KEY
[23:14] <gmzlj> gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri
[23:14] <tanath> gmzlj, yeah, well nothing i try that looks like it should be valid is working either
[23:15] <gmzlj> ^ does that line work
[23:15] <tanath> gmzlj, i'm trying to set, not get
[23:15] <gmzlj> try get first
[23:15] <gmzlj> it will tell you if your on the right path
[23:15] <gmzlj> do you get the path of your current wallpaper?
[23:15] <gmzlj> if yes, we can worry about setting it
[23:15] <tanath> gmzlj, ok, i had tried to use that line only changing 'get' to 'set' and 'picture-uri' to the image path...
[23:15] <gmzlj> no
[23:16] <gmzlj> picture-uri is the key
[23:16] <gmzlj> tanath: if you want help
[23:16] <tanath> gmzlj, if i put that it gives me a path
[23:16] <gmzlj> good
[23:16] <gmzlj> then
[23:16] <gmzlj> do this
[23:16] <tanath> so it shoudl wokr
[23:16] <gmzlj> gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri "<your picture>"
[23:16] <gmzlj> absolute path
[23:16] <tanath> gmzlj, right! *facepalm*
[23:17] <Stereocaulon> How hard is it to migrate to Mint from ubuntu?
[23:17] <gmzlj> starting with file://
[23:17] <gmzlj> tanath: lol
[23:17] <tanath> gmzlj, ty, lol
[23:17] <nvz> I am looking at a video dir in nautilus and I didnt have the codecs before, to play the files but now I do.. how can I make it go ahead and thumbnail these videos now?
[23:17] <gmzlj> tanath: np
[23:18] <jrib> nvz: rm -r ~/.thumbnails/fail/
[23:18] <padag-media> abend
[23:18] <tanath> gmzlj, uh... hm. now i can apparently set the value, but i get a black screen instead of the wallpaper
[23:18] <jrib> nvz: (do not make typos)
[23:18] <nvz> jrib: oh really, I didnt know that was how it worked.. I was wondering why a simple reload didnt do it
[23:19] <tanath> gmzlj, tried with and without quotes...
[23:19] <gmzlj> tanath: you need uri style sntax, eg file:///home/tanath/Pictures/ (note the 3 / in file:///)
[23:19] <tanath> darnit
[23:19] <tanath> ty
[23:19] <gmzlj> np
[23:19] <tanath> gmzlj, don't suppose you can get it to accept regular paths?
[23:19] <tanath> gmzlj, would be really helpful for my script
[23:20] <nvz> jrib: thanks, learned something new.. I knew about the thumbnails dir as I often clean it to save disk space but I didnt know it generated files for fails so it didnt try them again
[23:20] <gmzlj> tanath: its simple, just prefix "file://" before any absolute path, and you've got a valid uri
[23:20] <tanath> gmzlj, was hoping to save some effort
[23:20] <gmzlj> hardcode that into your script
[23:20] <tanath> yeah
[23:20] <gmzlj> file://$filename
[23:21] <janisozaur> I'm looking for a tool that could diff images. can be a gimp tool, cli, gui or online, doesn't matter
[23:21] <nvz> janisozaur: looking for similar images?
[23:21] <n4dsp> anyone here do tech support for Evolution?
[23:21] <tanath> janisozaur, you want to tell if it's different or what the differences are?
[23:21] <nvz> janisozaur: and are we talking pictures or like ISO kinda images?
[23:21] <nvz> janisozaur: in general be more specific so we can help you better
[23:22] <janisozaur> I have two png 512x512 images and there are literally couple pixels different. I need to find which (or rather to verify that these are the only differences)
[23:23] <tanath> janisozaur, if you just want to know if it's different, try diff. if you want an image of differences, use 'diffimg file1 file2 > image.jpg'
[23:23] <yagoo> janisozaur, there's probably tools like this.. i know there's a science of this i forget the name..
[23:23] <yagoo> janisozaur, i believe there's something for it.. but you'll have to dig here or there (try googling against sf.net )
[23:23] <tanath> yagoo, diffimg
[23:23] <nvz> yagoo: only term that comes to my mind is steganography which is more about hiding messages within
[23:24] <janisozaur> tanath, diffimg works fine, thanks
[23:24] <tanath> janisozaur, yw
[23:24] <yagoo> janisozaur, i remember there's even tools, let's say you want to make a webpage with similar images.. there's tools for this too
[23:25] <n4dsp> Once per day when I draft an email and send it my Evolution Mail program crashes, closes and starting it back up the email is in the outbox. Anyone know what causes this crash?
[23:26] <janisozaur> yagoo, I have an assignment for university to do some pattern recognition, unfortunatelly the images with labels were said to contain exactly 4 labels while they contain 7. I "flattened" it by using gimp -> mode -> indexed -> use 4 colour only, if you're curious ;)
[23:28] <atdiehm_home> hey guys, I tried to dd the iso to my usb stick, but the netbook won't recognize it on boot.... is there something else I need to do with this?
[23:28] <atdiehm_home> I'm trying to write it from fedora
[23:28] <atdiehm_home> ( if that helps _
[23:28] <atdiehm_home> )
[23:28] <Si2100> u gotta mount it
[23:29] <atdiehm_home> which 'it'
[23:29] <compdoc> there has to be a boot sector
[23:29] <genii-around> atdiehm_home: unetbootin
[23:29] <Si2100> u need a USB wrighter
[23:29] <sasori> i just got a message when i tried sudo apt-get update..it says , sasori is not in the sudoers file..how to fix this ?
[23:29] <genii-around> sasori: Are you the system administrator?
[23:29] <Si2100> http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[23:29] <sasori> yes i am
[23:30] <atdiehm_home> genii-around, installing
[23:30] <sasori> any tips/hints/suggestions how to fix this ?
[23:30] <genii-around> sasori: Are you logged on with the name of the first user that was created, or a username that was added afterwards? Only the first created user has sudo rights by default
[23:30] <Si2100> atdiehm_home, let me know if it works or ont
[23:31] <sasori> genii-around: there's a user called 'root' in my system..but from day 1 when i reformated this machine, i've been using sasori as the primary user
[23:31] <SpyderZ> Just installed Ubuntu on a Fujitsu Amilo Pro V2055 Notebook and can't get the second VGA monitor to get detected. Any trick to this?
[23:32] <sasori> it was still working yesterday,infact i even did sudo apt-get update as well and logged-in sasori's pwd
[23:32] <sasori> but now sasori seem gone..this is not a hacked case, yeah?
[23:32] <Mitochondria> Did you RS the laptop with the monitor plugged in?
[23:33] <genii-around> sasori: What is the output of command: groups
[23:33] <SpyderZ> No, what is RS?
[23:33] <sasori> genii-around: how will i know that? am not familiar with user management
[23:33] <Mitochondria> Restart~
[23:33] <SpyderZ> Oh, yes I did.
[23:34] <nvz> ran into another problem gonna investigate it further in a minute but if anyone has ideas shout em out.. now that I installed the gstreamer codecs seems to be avi files are glitching where the video stops but time keeps going. I've had these files long time and know they had worked.. so far only checked to see if kerenl was throwing hdd errors, and there are none. Not sure what the problem is... totem, ubuntu 11.04 btw
[23:34] <szal> sasori: by looking at the output of the command
[23:34] <janisozaur> sasori, chech if "id -u" is 1000
[23:34] <genii-around> atdiehm_home: So you use that to take a CD iso file as input, use it to write that to the USB stick, it makes all the other changes to make it boot right from that
[23:35] <Si2100> i now Ubuntu has a Live USB Creator,
[23:35] <nvz> might be worth doing an fsck.. cause I did delete all but my homedir on this partition that used to be my debian install and trying to shrink it to install ubuntu failed multiple times due to short reads
[23:35] <sasori> janisozaur: yes, i typed "id -u" ..it's 1000
[23:35] <Si2100> atdiehm_home, check the application center and see if u can fid somink
[23:35] <sasori> but when i do sudo apt-get update..the usuall asking of passwd comes out
[23:35] <zykotick9> nvz, try with vlc or mplayer (neither uses gstreamer)
[23:35] <sasori> but when i typed the pwd
[23:35] <sasori> it says
[23:35] <Mitochondria> Spyderz : have you tried going through all the monitor settings in the System Tab?
[23:35] <nvz> though not showing any short reads or other errors currently but I doubt fs problems would show up anywhere
[23:35] <genii-around> sasori: Did you run some command recently like usermod to try and add yourself to a new group?
[23:36] <sasori> sasori is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported
[23:36] <SpyderZ> When I do a xrandr -q I get the error "Failed to get size of gamma for output device…"
[23:36] <zykotick9> sasori, type "groups" are you a member of "admin", if not - no sudo
[23:36] <SpyderZ> Mitochondria, yes.. only shows an unknown monitor for the LCD screen.
[23:36]  * genii-around hands zykotick9 yummy coffee
[23:36] <n4dsp> is there an Evolution channel for tech support?
[23:36] <janisozaur> zykotick9, what about group "sudo"?
[23:37] <sasori> genii-around: i didn't..all i usually do is update my system
[23:37] <zykotick9> janisozaur, in ubuntu NO, in debian yes.
[23:37] <bastidrazor> janisozaur: there is no sudo group in ubuntu
[23:37] <genii-around> janisozaur: There is no sudo group
[23:37] <sasori> zykotick9: i typed "groups"
[23:37] <nvz> zykotick9: I do believe I had my debian where I last used these setup to use xine backend rather than gstreamer but I know these had worked in totem on debian.. I do however typically use gxine or a xine backend
[23:37] <sasori> output = "sasor www-data"
[23:37] <sasori> "sasori www-data" <-- output
[23:37] <janisozaur> bastidrazor, hmm... I do belong to "sudo" and I'm running 11.10
[23:38] <genii-around> sasori: So thats what you did. You ran something like: sudo usermod -G www-data    without using the -a switch to append the group. Now it is the only one you belong to.
[23:38] <yagoo> janisozaur, sudo rules is in /etc/sudoers (fyi)
[23:38] <bastidrazor> janisozaur: then you've created the group or you're running some derivative of ubuntu.
[23:38] <sasori> genii-around: any tips/suggestions how to fix this ?
[23:39] <nvz> the codecs and stuff are a bit different on ubuntu than on debian it seems.. how do I go about setting up codecs for non-gstreamer players? cause I'd like to setup totem to use xine like I had on debian but normally on debian you install w32codecs not sure what to do on ubuntu
[23:39] <janisozaur> bastidrazor, official ubuntu image, sudo group is 27 which is lower than audio (29) which would suggest it was here from the start
[23:39] <janisozaur> yagoo, I'm pretty familiar with my system, thank you :)
[23:39] <Mitochondria> Perhaps you have a video chipset and not an actual graphics card in the notebook. It seems to cause problems with older laptops
[23:40] <janisozaur> bastidrazor, not that it particularly bothers me...
[23:40] <extehtdg> hi
[23:41] <bastidrazor> janisozaur: now that i look at /etc/group i see sudo as a group but its purpose is mute since the admin group supercedes it
[23:41] <extehtdg> what's the same of idm
[23:41] <genii-around> sasori: The only solution in this case is to boot to recovery mode, and then add yourself back into the right groups. Like: usermod -G -a adm, dialout, cdrom, www-data, video, plugdev, lpadmin, admin sasori
[23:41] <janisozaur> bastidrazor, ahh, I see. thanks for clearing it up :)
[23:41] <yagoo> nvz, http://wiki.debian.org/MultimediaCodecs  -- it's under a different name with 64-bit ->w64codecs
[23:42] <sasori> genii-around: imma reboot my system now..please help through it
[23:42] <zykotick9> !medibuntu | nvz
[23:43] <zykotick9> nvz, it's medibuntu that containts w32codecs and w64codecs
[23:43] <Mitochondria> Mostly because Mediubuntu lets us get Restricted Codecs which allows us to play dvd's and rip them to our computers.
[23:43] <ResQue> how can i pipe the value of ls into vlc?
[23:43] <Mitochondria> Which is illegal in the US.
[23:43] <sasori> ok now am on the purple background color
[23:43] <sasori> it is asking me to choose resume,clean dpkg,failsafex,fsck,grub
[23:43] <DJRWolf> I just bought a laptop on a great black Friday sale and wanted to know if taking the HDD out to image it before I resize the partition to make room for Ubuntu would void the warranty?
[23:43] <sasori> which one to choose?
[23:44] <zykotick9> DJRWolf, that's not an #ubuntu question, try ##hardware
[23:44] <Jeruvy> DJRWolf, no.  But this isn't the place to ask those questions.  You should ask your manufacture directly for real.
[23:44] <Mitochondria> DjrWolf, if you bought it on black friday on sale, you won't be able to return it anyways
[23:45] <yagoo> ResQue, easier, you can even use -> echo * | <app> .. but there must be better ways..
[23:45] <yagoo> ResQue, you should make playlist files
[23:46] <DJRWolf> well, I have a 2nd question, is there an Ubuntu program that will do the imaging well?
[23:46] <atdiehm_home> I ran with unetbootin, and it completed normally, but the netbook won't boot off the stick.....
[23:47] <sasori> need help..i booted my machine to  recovery mode, now it is asking me to choose between resume,clean,dpkg,failsafex,fsck,grub,netroot,root ...which one should i choose in order to bring back sasori in the sudoers group ?
[23:47] <Jeruvy> !cloning | DJRWolf
[23:47] <Jeruvy> well thats a crappy factiod..
[23:49] <genii-around> sasori: Failsafe
[23:49] <genii-around> Woops no
[23:49] <genii-around> sasori: root  is what you want actually, apologies
[23:50] <kurisu_> hi guys.... really need some help please, for the last few days flash kepps making my system hang (11.04 64) it's getting really frustrating, I've tried clearing all flash stored data, reinstalling and tried both ff and chromium... out of ideas!! any suggestions would be much appreciated, thanks
[23:50] <ResQue> yagoo: thanks for the reply, and i see what you are saying. but often i like to pass in lists of files and dir based on my mood, so i would get a list of mp3 like this
[23:50] <ResQue> yagoo: "ls | grep -i yt | sed "s/ /\\\\ /g""
[23:50] <genii-around> sasori: Then you want Remount as Read/Write   or similar. Then you want root again.
[23:50] <ResQue> yagoo: but i can not seem to pass this into vlc after
[23:51] <sasori> genii-around: ok i chose root..and i typed the -G -a adm stuff you typed earlier..but it says, group -a does not exists :S
[23:51] <ResQue> yagoo: the sed is to replace spaces with esc character "\ "
[23:51] <yagoo> ResQue, check the manpage?
[23:52] <yagoo> ResQue, if you're asking me about bash then you should ask the channel how to do a certain text format..
[23:52] <genii-around> sasori: I always forget where the -a should go.  You can try -Ga  or put -a at the end and see if that works
[23:53] <genii-around> sasori: Then to see if it took properly, do: su -d "groups" sasori
[23:53] <genii-around> gah typos
[23:53] <zero_> hey guys, trying, unsuccessfully to get an aiptek sirius (rebranded waltop) wacom tablet to work properly in 11.10.  I have tried using wizardpen, as well as adding a waltop extension to the 50-wacom-conf file to no avail.  Any input would be greatly appreciated
[23:53] <genii-around> sasori: do: su -c "groups" sasori        instead, rather
[23:54] <zykotick9> Jeruvy, !cloning is a great factoid for cloning an ubuntu install, but not so good for disk cloning (aka drive imagining) though.  Perhaps that factoid should say something like "... for disk cloning research dd." ;)
[23:54] <Jeruvy> zykotick9, agreed.
[23:55] <sasori> genii-around: i tried usermod -aG .... OR usermod -a -G ....OR usermod -Ga ...it didn't work..the last one was usermod -Ga ..it says, group 'a" does not exists..then i typed "su -c groups sasori"..it says "sasori www-data
[23:56] <genii-around> sasori: Yeah hangon a sec for me to find the right usage
[23:56] <kurisu> >.< ok so it just crashed again... without any flash... how do I check 'crash' logs
[23:56] <sasori> ok
[23:56] <kurisu> i.e. which log?
[23:57] <genii-around> sasori: usermod -a -G adm,dialout,cdrom,www-data,video,plugdev,lpadmin,admin sasori       ...should work
[23:57] <sasori> ok 1 sec..lemme try
[23:58] <zykotick9> genii-around, (sasori) i believe your initial command is correct (i'd personally have given "usermod -aG ..." but i'm sure your way should work too.  sasori is your username sasori?
[23:58] <genii-around> zykotick9: Yeah I always mess up which comes first in that command for some reason
[23:58] <sasori> yes it's my username..but am currently on recovery mode and logged in as root
[23:59] <genii-around> sasori: Make sure it added you to all the groups after by the: su -c "groups" sasori
[23:59] <zykotick9> sasori, you might have to chroot to modify the correct passwd account?  (can someone confirm/deny?)
[23:59] <sasori> ok, i think the last one you typed..went through @ genii-around
[23:59] <genii-around> zykotick9: No, the recovery boot puts you at #
[23:59] <sasori> imma try to reboot now