| ScottL | Nightrav1n, can you send an email to the -devel mailing list? | 01:01 |
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| ScottL | and thanks for hanging in channel long enough to get a reply ;) | 01:01 |
| ScottL | Nightrav1n, ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com | 01:02 |
| * micahg should probably subscribe to that | 01:32 | |
| ScottL | micahg, it's not as exciting as you might think ;) | 01:33 |
| stochastic | Nightrav1n, do you have a link of the image? | 04:29 |
| micahg | ScottL: BTW, the ubuntustudio-meta upload should fix all the uninstallability except for wine | 04:53 |
| micahg | well, wine + ia32-libs... | 04:56 |
| ScottL | micahg, thank you :) | 05:23 |
| * micahg hasn't done it yet, but still on the list | 05:24 | |
| * micahg goes and and does it | 05:25 | |
| micahg | ScottL: uploaded | 05:38 |
| falktx | hey there | 08:12 |
| ailo | good morning falktx | 08:20 |
| ailo | Nice day for coding, don't you think? | 08:21 |
| falktx | ailo: yes! | 08:21 |
| falktx | I'll finish my canvas stuff and do a final test before cadence gets alpha1, finally | 08:21 |
| falktx | time to make some music! | 08:21 |
| ailo | I'm doing some puredata patches myself. Making a custom app for sequencing and recording music. | 08:23 |
| falktx | nice | 08:27 |
| * abogani waves all | 09:40 | |
| abogani | ... the jackd realtime threads should run at a priority higher than the standard IRQs but lower than the audio-related ones ... | 09:40 |
| abogani | What priority we use for Jackd in Ubuntu Studio? | 09:41 |
| ailo | abogani, The file /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf, which is added when installing jack, has this setting: | 09:48 |
| ailo | @audio - rtprio 95 | 09:48 |
| ailo | @audio - memlock unlimited | 09:48 |
| ailo | I assume this is what you mean | 09:49 |
| ailo | Users in "audio" group are able to start jack with these settings | 09:49 |
| abogani | ailo: Those are upper limits. I meant jackd's command line -P parameter or qjackctl (priority value). | 09:51 |
| ailo | abogani, There are no added parameter what I am aware of | 09:53 |
| abogani | ailo: Hmmm so we don't provide a reasonable default value... :-( | 09:54 |
| ailo | abogani, Ubuntu Studio uses the default settings created by just installing jackd. Performance is good. But, if I do .. | 10:01 |
| ailo | ps -eo pid,rtprio,ni,pri,comm | 10:01 |
| ailo | PID RTPRIO NI PRI COMMAND | 10:01 |
| ailo | 24129 - 0 19 jackd | 10:02 |
| ailo | Is this what you mean? | 10:02 |
| abogani | ailo: Yes. | 10:03 |
| ailo | qjackctl has a parameter called "priority" and it is set to "default" | 10:03 |
| * abogani is wondering about the numeric value of that "default"... | 10:04 | |
| shnatsel | you can look it up in gnome-system-monitor | 10:05 |
| shnatsel | it's called niceness | 10:05 |
| shnatsel | negative niceness values mean higher priority | 10:05 |
| shnatsel | positive niceness means lower priority | 10:06 |
| shnatsel | -20 is the highest possible priority | 10:06 |
| shnatsel | 19 is the lowest possible priority | 10:06 |
| ailo | shnatsel, We're talking about something else | 10:06 |
| shnatsel | ah | 10:07 |
| shnatsel | :( | 10:07 |
| ailo | shnatsel, Are you talking about the qjackctl parameter called "priority"? | 10:07 |
| shnatsel | not sure about qjackctl, never seen it | 10:07 |
| shnatsel | but that's what most apps use because it's an OS mechanism | 10:08 |
| ailo | abogani, changing that parameter does not change anything. Still: "28568 - 0 19 jackd" | 10:08 |
| ailo | abogani, But, I can see that changing "priority" to 20 causes this commandline argument "jackd -P20" | 10:09 |
| ailo | abogani, No effect, anyway. But still, good performance | 10:15 |
| ailo | I'm looking into what the default value might be | 10:24 |
| abogani | ailo: Thanks, that is very important. | 10:25 |
| ailo | abogani, I've been told the default value is 10 | 10:28 |
| ScottL | micahg, outstanding! thank you again :) | 15:39 |
| ScottL | abogani, ailo , we are looking at adding sane default jack settings this cycle | 15:41 |
| ScottL | holstein and someone else came up with some but we working on how to implement the settings during installation | 15:42 |
| abogani | ScottL: ok | 15:42 |
| ScottL | if there is a particular settings you think should be included please let me know | 15:43 |
| abogani | ScottL: rtirq set 80 as priority for snd so I *suppose* the right valued should be 79. | 15:44 |
| ScottL | abogani, i will note that | 15:45 |
| ScottL | thanks :) | 15:45 |
| abogani | ScottL: I'm not a Jack expert so please verify my supposition. | 15:46 |
| scott-upstairs | man, skaet runs a tight meeting for the release team meeting | 16:01 |
| scott-upstairs | TheMuso, this is cjwatsons response to the preseed issue you and len discussed on the mailing list : http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/debian-cd/ubuntu/revision/1728 | 16:08 |
| scott-upstairs | i haven't a clue if this really fixes the problem by simply looking at the code | 16:08 |
| Nightrav1n | stochastic: yeah sure :) want a pm or shall i post the links to the channel? :) | 16:44 |
| falktx | scott-upstairs: ScottL: u there? | 17:01 |
| scott-upstairs | falktx, aye, kinda in a release team meeting but i can probably talk for a bit | 17:01 |
| scott-upstairs | shoot :) | 17:01 |
| falktx | scott-upstairs: I really though deeply about what distro I should focus on. it's no doubt Ubuntu needs more work and help, so I guess I'll stick with Ubuntu | 17:02 |
| scott-upstairs | that's fantastic for us ;) but i feel that the arch people are going to loose something special then | 17:02 |
| falktx | Arch users always have AUR | 17:03 |
| falktx | it's archaudio devs fault for being too slow | 17:03 |
| falktx | the project is there, but seems stuck :( | 17:03 |
| falktx | scott-upstairs: anyway, Ubuntu 12.04 should be the focus now | 17:03 |
| falktx | is anything fully decided on the theme? | 17:04 |
| falktx | (ie, drop the current one and start a new?) | 17:04 |
| scott-upstairs | ah, i'm sorry to hear that about the arch progress | 17:05 |
| ScottL | falktx, i think there is going to be a great deal of development over the next two years for ubuntu studio and i think you could be a big part of that | 17:58 |
| ScottL | i think this is going to be an exciting time | 17:58 |
| falktx | ScottL: i'm very sad that linuxsampler is not on Debian though | 18:05 |
| falktx | no linuxsampler, no openoctave | 18:05 |
| ScottL | falktx, what can we do to get those applications into debian | 18:31 |
| falktx | no idea | 18:32 |
| falktx | I mean | 18:32 |
| falktx | we need to fully understand why it's not there yet | 18:32 |
| micahg | http://bugs.debian.org/578787 <-- openoctave | 18:32 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 578787 in wnpp "ITP: openoctave -- MIDI and audio sequencer and musical notation editor" [Wishlist,Open] | 18:33 |
| micahg | http://bugs.debian.org/561443 <-- linuxsampler | 18:33 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 561443 in wnpp "RFP: linuxsampler -- realtime audio sampler" [Wishlist,Open] | 18:33 |
| micahg | linuxsampler just needs someone to run with it | 18:34 |
| micahg | same with openoctave it seems | 18:35 |
| falktx | I think it's time to join the debian multimedia team | 19:03 |
| micahg | falktx: the team welcomes help | 19:09 |
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