[00:00] <housiemousie2> Which one?
[00:00] <Artemis3> see any suspicious kdeish one? or gnomeish? :)
[00:00] <housiemousie2> lol Aren't they all suspicious?
[00:01] <housiemousie2> kded4
[00:01] <Artemis3> i think xfdesktop and xfwm4 are trusted
[00:02] <Artemis3> and that whole bunch beginning with "xfce4-"
[00:03] <housiemousie2> If I blip... we'll know I touched it where it didn't like to be touched.
[00:04] <Artemis3> the others are easy to recognize, thunar, nm-applet, etc.
[00:04] <Artemis3> umm you should not kill the irc client :3
[00:05] <Artemis3> just kill your user process, not root, etc.
[00:05] <zacarias> any experience with awn dock?
[00:06] <housiemousie2> gconfd-2, gconf-helper, a few kdeinit4's, knotify4
[00:08] <Artemis3> do you have gajim installed? desktop might need refreshing
[00:09] <housiemousie2> Not installed
[00:10] <housiemousie2> Tried it back in Hardy, Zacarias... doubt I could help.
[00:14] <zacarias> housimousie2: thanks. I'm trying it, but adding a launcher doesn't work very well
[00:17] <housiemousie2> Nope.  Killed KDE and Gnome user processes.
[00:17] <housiemousie2> Is there a .xfce file in /home that I am just missing? lol
[00:20] <housiemousie2> The fact that it works in a guest session makes me think it is a user config that has gone bad.
[00:23] <housiemousie2> Thanks for the help, I am going to go poke it with a stick and see if it wiggles
[00:27] <housiemousie2> Stupid question... where are the xfce user settings stored?
[00:42] <housiemousie2> Can someone look at their ~/.config/xfce4/xconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-desktop.xml and tell me what your setting for <property name="desktop-menu" type="empty"> is?
[00:43] <babble> housiemousie2: 1 min
[00:43] <housiemousie2> Thanks
[00:45] <babble> housiemousie2: I'm running a stock Xubuntu install - I don't see either that property OR key
[00:45] <babble> sec, I'll paste my whole file.
[00:46] <housiemousie2> Hmm, okay.
[00:47] <babble> here's my whole file: http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/BYYilf82Pa
[00:48] <housiemousie2> Strange.  Thank you, babble
[00:49] <babble> housiemousie2: it's no problem. Sorry I couldn't be more help
[00:50] <housiemousie2> No worries.  I'll get it sorted... eventually.  :)
[00:51] <housiemousie2> I'll have Dad do a side by side with a guest session to look for differences.
[00:51] <housiemousie2> Cheers!
[00:51] <babble> I wonder if it's an Xfce session key, instead of a Xubuntu session key?
[00:52] <housiemousie2> No idea, but I will find out.
[02:26] <vhd> Hi there, could someone kindly pm the all the default usergroups your root user has after install? I have mistakenly used usermod and wiped my user group info.
[02:30] <vhd> err in other words if you could please paste me what you have for your main user account in /etc/group that would really help me.
[02:31] <vhd> this should be safe and not anything crafty.
[02:31] <vhd> http://ccollins.wordpress.com/2007/07/02/restore-default-ubuntu-groups/
[02:31] <vhd> the above is my problem, but he has usergroups for ubuntu and im not sure if they are the same for xubuntu
[02:32] <dpyro> Hi! How can I set up full-disk encryption when installing Xubuntu?
[02:32] <jandrusk> You probably would need to use the alternate installer to do LVM encryption.
[02:34] <jandrusk> You would just need to specify a password upon boot-up.
[02:35] <jandrusk> I'm assuming you want this in case of theft of the device?
[02:40] <dpyro> Yes, exactly
[02:40] <dpyro> I true-crypted my windows desktop and I'm trying to do something similar for this netbook
[02:43] <jandrusk> I think the LVM would be the way to go. Could also use TrueCrypt on Xubuntu for sensitive files and such.
[02:46] <dpyro> is there anyway to do it on-the-fly?
[02:46] <dpyro> or do I need to set it all up during the install?
[02:48] <jandrusk> I'm assuming you mean post-install. Your best bet would be to backup your data and to reinstall using the alternate ISO.
[02:49] <jandrusk> And choosing LVM encryption.
[02:52] <Unknown53136> hey jandrusk, any..
[02:52] <Unknown53136> bah
[02:53] <Unknown53136> hey dpyro, just out of curiosity, what netbook did you get?
[02:54] <dpyro> Unknown53136: a hp mini with dual core atom thingy
[02:54] <dpyro> i don't remember the actual model number
[02:54] <Unknown53136> ooh
[02:54] <dpyro> its not printed externally
[02:54] <dpyro> and i got it for free
[02:54] <Unknown53136> nice
[02:57] <Unknown53136> they start at $280
[02:57] <Unknown53136> you got a good deal ;D
[03:02] <dpyro> :D
[03:02] <dpyro> well $0 is always a good deal
[03:02] <dpyro> :P
[03:02] <Unknown53136> hehe
[03:09] <asterismo> hi people
[03:09] <asterismo> i need to share my public folder in Xubuntu 11.10
[03:09] <asterismo> how i do this? there is no sharing options in riht click like nautilus.... i'm an unity refugee
[03:10] <asterismo> migrated recently
[03:13] <Unknown53136> I just googled
[03:13] <zenrox> i used nfs
[03:13] <Unknown53136> try going to System -> Administration -> 'shared folders'
[03:13] <zenrox> to share folders
[03:13] <Unknown53136> the post was from 2008 though so I'm not sure if that still applies
[03:14] <asterismo> i have no administration menu in my xfce meun
[03:14] <asterismo> menu
[03:15] <Unknown53136> :s
[03:32] <peridot> Anyone know how to use gnome-keyring instead of the real ssh-agent and gpg-agent?
[04:13] <wapiflapi> anyone knows how to prevent skype from showing up in the indicator-plugin ?
[08:16] <malphas> Hi, anyone have experience with the ath9k wireless driver and wpa_supplicant? Trying desperately to save my install
[08:20] <malphas> or even disabling gdm in single user mode
[08:21] <malphas> ps aux
[08:35] <Sysi> malphas: please describe your problem with some details and see if someone has an ansver
[08:36] <malphas> bah. I'm running xubuntu. Something went terribly awry during an upgrade. I am trying desperately to fix this install; currently the keyboard and mouse stop functioning as soon as X loads.
[08:36] <malphas> -bah.
[08:37] <Sysi> what graphics card/driver?
[08:38] <malphas> i attemptedd to disable gfm from loading at boot while in single user mode, but it still loads even after renaming the binary. I am still in single user mode, and am also unable to associate to an ap using wpa_supplicant
[08:38] <malphas> it's not a graphics issue, the rest of the machine functions fine, just not the keyboard or mouse
[08:39] <malphas> I'm fairly certain that part relates to the upgrade, i just need to get the thing connected to fix the dependancy issues
[08:39] <Sysi> so nothing happens but it works fine? sounds really much like xorg problem to me, therefore graphics problem
[08:40] <Sysi> renaming binaries is really stupid
[08:40] <Sysi> first try with "xforcevesa" as boot option
[08:40] <Sysi> without quotes
[08:40] <malphas> yeah, it was a last ditch effort. also, xorg can also have problems loading the keyboard/mouse driver, while having nothing at all wrong with the video driver.
[08:41] <malphas> Really, I just want to ditch gdm.
[08:41] <malphas> I can start x from the console when I need it.
[08:41] <Sysi> how do you tell it has no problems loading graphics driver if you can't use mouse or keyboard?
[08:41] <malphas> the init script points to the upstart script
[08:41] <malphas> I can ping it and access apache runnning ps aux
[08:42] <malphas> running on it.
[08:42] <Sysi> that has nothing to do with xorg
[08:42] <Sysi> it works if you start it with startx?
[08:42] <malphas> The display isn't locking up. gdm loads fine, and I see updates from the notifier
[08:42] <malphas> for things like plugging in the ac power.
[08:43] <Sysi> now this got interesting
[08:44] <Sysi> ..I need to go to meal before physics exam ->
[08:44] <malphas> startx loads the display fine, still no mouse/keyboard
[09:45] <xubuntu598> bonjour!
[09:46] <xubuntu598> nouvel utilisateur d'une voyager 11.10 sur un nc10, j'ai une question
[09:46] <xubuntu598> est-ce que je peux installer et utiliser ubuntu one?
[09:54] <xubuntu598> euh :| j'ai dit un truc bete?
[09:57] <xubuntu598> toc toc toc? (come in!)
[09:59] <well_laid_lawn> xubuntu598: do you want a french channel?
[09:59] <well_laid_lawn> !fr
[10:01] <xubuntu598> ok thanks
[10:02] <xubuntu598> is there a way to integrate ubuntu one in voyager (xcfe)
[10:02] <xubuntu598> thank you
[10:04] <xubuntu598> no way then?
[13:09] <seeu> cted extras?
[13:09] <seeu> hi
[13:09] <seeu> can anyone help me to find out ubuntu restricted extras?
[13:10] <seeu> for 11.10?
[13:38] <Seomah> !grub2
[13:46] <bogeyd6_> I have a dell latitude e6420 with the intel hd graphics card (512mb ram), when I run ubuntu VLC plays videos fine. When I use vlc in xubuntu the playback is choppy.
[13:57] <Sysi> try disabling compositing in window maanger tweaks
[13:57] <bogeyd6_> ty
[17:31] <puff> At some point before I upgraded to 11.10/xubuntu-desktop, I must have set up a podcast tool, because now I occasionally see notifications about stuff being downloaded.  But I have no idea what's doing the downloading or where they're being put.
[17:33] <puff> Ah, it's rhythmbox. Hm.
[17:37] <CiPi> Use audacious 3.1, 50 times better.
[17:37] <puff> I will check it out.
[17:58] <Sysi> a bit lacky search in audacious, is there new radically improved version
[17:59] <Sysi> rhythmbox has feature for downloading podcasts
[20:18] <quote> hi there
[20:18] <Mp5shooter> hello
[20:19] <quote> where am i?
[20:19] <Mp5shooter> you are in #xubuntu on the freenode IRC network
[20:19] <quote> oh god... how did i get here :(
[20:20] <Mp5shooter> not sure
[20:20] <Mp5shooter> did you click on something
[20:20] <quote> it's pretty much possible
[20:20] <quote> but i'm not sure
[20:20] <Mp5shooter> my guess is you clicked on a help link
[20:21] <quote> doesn't really matter..
[20:21] <quote> hey
[20:21] <quote> i've got a little trouble
[20:21] <quote> i don't know how to explain
[20:21] <quote> but
[20:23] <quote> damn..
[20:36] <wapiflapi> anyone knows how i could prevent skype from showing up in the indicator-plugin ?
[20:41] <Sysi> wapiflapi: something with skype, not really xubuntu
[20:41] <Sysi> you could try #ubuntu too
[20:43] <wapiflapi> i'll do that, thanks Sysi
[20:45] <CaptainKnots> anyone here running xubuntu 11.10 on a netbook? I'm debating between that and kubuntu 11.10 with the light setting
[20:46] <Sysi> xubuntu is simpler, you probably get better battery life easier
[20:46] <CaptainKnots> I've used xfce before, but only on arch
[20:46] <Sysi> do you really need kde's features on netbook?
[20:46] <Mp5shooter> It looks really nice on xubuntu
[20:47] <CaptainKnots> Sysi: how is integrated vpn support in xubuntu?
[20:48] <Sysi> vpn should be simple with networkmanager by default
[20:49] <Mp5shooter> I want to find a cheap netbook that I can put xubuntu on :P
[20:49] <CaptainKnots> I have a HP mini 1135NR
[20:50] <Mp5shooter> 4 used from $140.00 on amazon
[20:50] <Mp5shooter> not bad
[20:50] <CaptainKnots> people in #kubuntu are telling me to go with that and low-fat, and here I'm hearing xubuntu
[20:50] <CaptainKnots> maybe I'll try both and see which I like better
[20:50] <Mp5shooter> lol
[20:50] <CaptainKnots> right now it's running fedora 16 with lxde
[20:50] <Sysi> that's only way to get *your* opinion
[20:51] <Sysi> fedora's kde packaging is lousy isn't it? though xfce is great on it
[20:51] <genii-around> Mp5shooter: I got an Acer One for about $180 on sale ( Canadian ) at BestBuy a while ago and it runs nice ( 64 bit as well )
[20:51] <Mp5shooter> oh nice
[20:51] <CaptainKnots> I stopped using ubuntu after hoary, and when I saw how nice and stable kubuntu 11.10 was I installed it on my desktop
[20:51] <CaptainKnots> I stayed away from anything ubuntu for years
[20:52] <CaptainKnots> Sysi: I never tried KDE on fedora
[20:52] <CaptainKnots> only lxde and openbox
[20:53] <CaptainKnots> does xubuntu 11.10 have support for full disk encryption?
[20:54] <Mp5shooter> yes
[20:54] <CaptainKnots> I love my encrypted LVM setup in fedora
[20:54] <Sysi> I think you can create encrypted LVM with alternate-install disk
[20:54] <Mp5shooter> I think you need to use the alternate iso to install it if you want it
[20:54] <genii-around> Mp5shooter: Similar to this one: http://www.aceroutlet.ca/products/-Acer-Aspire-One-Purple-%252d-New-Open-Box-or-Factory-Refurbished-Full-1-Year-Warranty-from-Acer..html
[20:55] <Mp5shooter> ah nioce
[20:55] <Mp5shooter> nice*
[20:55] <Sysi> I had asus 1005ha for a year, then I fed up and got macbook, now I'm thinking of installing linux on this (outside virtualbox)
[20:56] <CaptainKnots> what's the default torrent client in xubuntu? please don't say transmission
[20:56] <Sysi> that's it, you can install something else if you want
[20:57] <CaptainKnots> I've grown to like ktorrent for some reason
[20:57] <CaptainKnots> I usually use deluge
[20:57]  * Mp5shooter thinks he saw transmission
[20:57] <CaptainKnots> transmission is *too* simple for me
[20:57] <genii-around> The 1005HA  is what I got my gf coupla-few years ago, she still uses it with 10.04
[20:58] <Sysi> I like transmission, simple and does the job
[20:58] <Sysi> I have that asus to my sister, she has win7 on it, I could try xubuntu to her if she's not using it for ms-office
[20:59] <CaptainKnots> almost switched my auntu to linux but her lexmark x1290 is a POS and won't work in it
[20:59] <CaptainKnots> as soon as I give her my HP all in one she's getting kubuntu
[20:59] <CaptainKnots> aunt*
[21:01] <Sysi> my parents run xubuntu LTS happily
[21:03] <Sysi> though I'd need to fix user-switching issue
[21:06] <Space-Duck> How can I enable mod_rewrite in xubuntu? I've already change allow_override all  but I still get a 404.
[21:17] <CaptainKnots> xubuntu copying to usb drive now :)
[21:18] <genii-around> Space-Duck: You're trying to get URLS like http://somewhere/~username/     ?
[21:24] <Space-Duck> genii-around, yes http://localhost/web/dev/wordpress/page-one/
[21:26] <genii-around> For that url to work the user called web would have to have a public_html dir containing the dev/wordpress/page-one structure. Then you would also need to put the tilde before their name
[21:27] <genii-around> ( IIRC)
[21:29] <Space-Duck> huh?
[21:30] <Space-Duck> I have symlink from ~/web/  to  /var/www/
[21:30] <Space-Duck> Does that count?
[21:47] <CaptainKnots> this is exciting
[21:47] <CaptainKnots> xubuntu install
[21:47] <CaptainKnots> mmmm
[21:47] <CaptainKnots> although I forgot to use the alternate iso, so I'll just use truecrypt
[21:58] <Sysi> isn't truecrypt windows app?
[21:58] <Unit193> Cross-platform
[22:07] <CiPi> Truecrypt is a damn good program.
[23:30] <incorrect> something is very weird, when i plug my laptop battery in the touchpad goes slow
[23:30] <incorrect> when i unplug the power the mouse returns to normal