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eLBaticiao09:49
eLBatican anybody tell me why this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/openobject-italia/+bug/890108 doesn't appear here https://bugs.launchpad.net/openobject-italia ?09:50
ubot5Ubuntu bug 890108 in OpenERP Italia "l10n_it_account - il check delle date delle fatture non dovrebbe usare SQL" [Medium,New]09:50
wgranteLBati: That only shows the 10 "hottest" bugs. There are 12 bugs open in that project -- you can see the full list by clicking "Search"09:51
wgrantOr the "12 Open bugs" link on the right.09:51
eLBatithank you wgrant09:52
ojwbi get what looks like an error uploading to a ppa, but the uploads seem to succeed10:27
ojwbseems to be repeatable10:27
ojwbhttp://paste.debian.net/147064/10:27
ojwbI used "dput -u", as I don't have a keyring on the machine I'm uploading from10:29
wgrantojwb: That's a known bug. You can ignore the error.10:30
wgrantI'll get someone to restart it, which should make the error go away.10:30
wgrantHmmm10:30
wgrantActually, that's a different error.10:30
wgrantThat looks more like your changes file is not signed.10:30
wgrantDo you get an Accepted email?10:30
ojwbwgrant: i haven't for that one actually, but I saw an error which was either the same or very similar for the last few uploads which did succeed12:02
ojwblooks like I failed to sign that one in fact12:03
ojwbah, typo in one of the paths I passed to debsign, and I missed the error message12:05
ojwbwith it signed, I don't get any error now12:06
emgenthello guys12:37
emgentsomeone around? login password recovery seems not work.12:38
exarkunWhat is the expectation for https://code.launchpad.net/~gary/twisted/setuptoolsbug/+merge/7298 ?14:12
ubot5Ubuntu bug 7298 in Ubuntu "pango's update of defoma is very noisy" [Low,Fix released]14:12
andi3hi, how can I link/tag the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/gdb-linaro/+bug/891970 to/with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdb-msp430 ?18:04
ubot5Ubuntu bug 891970 in mspgcc "msp430-gdb segmentation fault with target remote" [Undecided,New]18:04
enricoSomeone decided to subscribe me to a launchpad bug (655831) and it happened without any confirmation on my side. 1. WTF?  2. How do I ubsubscribe without logging into launchpad?  3. Can I report the thing as abuse, and how?20:22
czajkowskienrico: it's not abuse20:29
czajkowskisomeone A) may have done it by mistake B) thought the bug may of being relevant to you20:29
enricoczajkowski: I consider it abuse if I'm not asked first20:30
czajkowskienrico: viewing the page you should be able to hit the - symbol and remove yourself from it20:30
enricoczajkowski: I appreciate my concept of abuse may be different than yours, though, but I'm uncomfortable in being forced to abide to yours by launchpad. If there is no way to do otherwise, I'll be closing my account.20:30
czajkowskienrico: I'm not sure20:31
czajkowskias far as I know, anyone can someone to a bug20:31
czajkowskibut one of the lp admins would know than me tbh20:31
czajkowskienrico: maybe a bug should be filed if someone subs you to a bug you should be able to say yes or no20:32
czajkowskinever really occured to me before as I get added to a lot so I then follow up on them20:33
exarkunczajkowski: imagine that someone wanted to bother you20:34
exarkunczajkowski: and went from bug to bug, subscribing you20:34
exarkunit can certainly be abuse.20:34
czajkowskiyup then it'd be abuse you're right. however I've never seen that happen20:34
czajkowskiperhaps that's the projects I'm on20:34
exarkunczajkowski: I don't think I'm "on" any of the projects you're on20:35
czajkowskienrico: does have a point20:35
exarkunczajkowski: But I could just as easily do this to you as anyone else :)20:35
czajkowskiexarkun: you could, indeed as I said enrico does have a point, but I've never heard of massive abuse of subing someone to bugs tbh20:36
enricoI am not active in ubuntu, my launchpad account exists for historical reasons and as a contact point for bugs that I submitted over the years and are still open. Since I do not have the time to follow the ubuntu side of software in which I am involved, people subscribing me to bugs such as 655831 force me to waste the time to deal with it, go and unsubscribe.20:36
enricoA setting such as "prevent people to subscribe me to things" or just "I'm not an active Ubuntu developer" would be a valid alternative to deactivating the account20:37
dobeyexarkun: my manager does that all the time. really annoying! :)20:39
czajkowskipossibly the former would make mor sense than the later20:39
czajkowskidobey: hah!20:39
Ampelbeinenrico: I agree with you about the "ask before being subscribed thing". About having to login to LP: You can just reply to the mail you received with a line containing" unsubscribe". (Notice the leading space). So no need to login.20:39
czajkowskienrico: if you want file the bug and I'll follow up on it on MOnday if you like20:39
dobeyi don't agree with the ask before subscribing; i think the "you have been subscribed" mail should give you the option to say "this was a mistake" and should tell you who did it, so that if it is actually abuse, then it can be reported and dealt with, better20:40
enricoAmpelbein: the mail I received saying "You have been subscribed to a public bug by …" does not contain instructions on how to unsubscribe20:42
Ampelbeindobey: It should work like confirmed opt-in on mailing lists. If you are subscribed you get a mail "If you want to recieve updates click here - if not do nothing".20:42
dobeyAmpelbein: i don't think so. that is infinitely more work for when the subscription is not a mistake (most of the time)20:43
Ampelbeindobey: Only for those bugs you are being subscribed to by others. Of course the bugs you yourself subscribe to should not send a confirmation.20:44
geserwould it be less "abuse" if LP 'spams' a person who doesn't want to be subscribed to any bug with those mails asking for confirmation?20:44
dobeyAmpelbein: i rarely subscribe myself to bugs; and that idea totally breaks for teams20:45
enricoI reckon the current system works well for active Ubuntu developers, and fails miserably for people who are not. Fair enough, it's two completely different use cases. I would be quite satisfied with a checkbox in my personal settings that allows me to pick which of the two use cases I fit in20:45
Ampelbeindobey: Teams are a different matter. But individuals should be able to say "I don't want to be subscribed to bugs unless I agree".20:46
dobeyAmpelbein: a setting that says "Send me confirmation, only if i have this box checked" is better than always sending confirmation, sure; the suggestion sort of implied the latter solution though20:47
nonix4http 301 that loops to itself is bad, right? bazaar.launchpad.net does that sometimes for me - for example 'http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/gnome-disk-utility/master/view/head:/src/gdu/gdu-linux-md-drive.c?start_revid=930&file_id=src/gdu' does so.21:06
wgrantenrico: All Launchpad bug notifications should have a link at the bottom to unsubscribe. "To manage notifications about this bug go to:"21:32
wgrantI'm not sure how it's massively different to Ccing someone on a debbugs email, except that it's impossible to remove yourself in the debbugs case.21:35
enricowgrant: the diference is that it's not an accepted or welcome practice, in the Debtags instance of debbugs at least, to subscribe people to bugs without their consent.21:43
enricowgrant: and no, the bottom of that debtags mail had no link to unsubscribe21:44
enricowgrant: http://paste.debian.net/147118/ was the footer21:44
wgrantenrico: Huh. Normally there's also this:21:45
wgrantTo manage notifications about this bug go to:21:45
wgranthttps://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/138545/+subscriptions21:45
ubot5Ubuntu bug 138545 in Launchpad itself "Option for project bug listing to include bugs in project's packages" [Low,Triaged]21:45
* wgrant hunts.21:45
enricowgrant: it wasn't in mine. I can forward you the full email if you'd like21:45
wgrantenrico: That would be good, thanks. wgrant@canonical.com21:46
enricowgrant: done21:47
wgrantenrico: Thanks.21:48
wgrantenrico: Ah, the "You have been subscribed" notifications use a different template, to which the subscription link was never added.21:50
wgrantAny other email from the bug should have it.21:50
wgrantThere's even an XXX saying the footer code is duplicated :(21:51
wgrantBug #89670121:57
ubot5Launchpad bug 896701 in Launchpad itself "Footers generated by lp.bugs.mail.newbug don't include unsubscription link" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89670121:57
george_eOOPS-0d7e0dd50d2b83435032d0513872494021:59
ubot5https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=0d7e0dd50d2b83435032d0513872494021:59
george_eRan into a problem searching.21:59
george_eCan anyone please look at the OOPS?22:00
wgrantgeorge_e: Let me see.22:01
george_eThank you.22:01
czajkowskienrico: nicely spotted22:04
wgrantgeorge_e: Hmmm, it looks like we might have some DB issues affecting searches at the moment. Were you looking for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus?22:06
george_eYes, thank you.22:06
exarkunWhat is the expectation for https://code.launchpad.net/~gary/twisted/setuptoolsbug/+merge/7298 ?22:52
ubot5Ubuntu bug 7298 in Ubuntu "pango's update of defoma is very noisy" [Low,Fix released]22:52

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