[09:49] <eLBati> ciao
[09:50] <eLBati> can anybody tell me why this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/openobject-italia/+bug/890108 doesn't appear here https://bugs.launchpad.net/openobject-italia ?
[09:51] <wgrant> eLBati: That only shows the 10 "hottest" bugs. There are 12 bugs open in that project -- you can see the full list by clicking "Search"
[09:51] <wgrant> Or the "12 Open bugs" link on the right.
[09:52] <eLBati> thank you wgrant
[10:27] <ojwb> i get what looks like an error uploading to a ppa, but the uploads seem to succeed
[10:27] <ojwb> seems to be repeatable
[10:27] <ojwb> http://paste.debian.net/147064/
[10:29] <ojwb> I used "dput -u", as I don't have a keyring on the machine I'm uploading from
[10:30] <wgrant> ojwb: That's a known bug. You can ignore the error.
[10:30] <wgrant> I'll get someone to restart it, which should make the error go away.
[10:30] <wgrant> Hmmm
[10:30] <wgrant> Actually, that's a different error.
[10:30] <wgrant> That looks more like your changes file is not signed.
[10:30] <wgrant> Do you get an Accepted email?
[12:02] <ojwb> wgrant: i haven't for that one actually, but I saw an error which was either the same or very similar for the last few uploads which did succeed
[12:03] <ojwb> looks like I failed to sign that one in fact
[12:05] <ojwb> ah, typo in one of the paths I passed to debsign, and I missed the error message
[12:06] <ojwb> with it signed, I don't get any error now
[12:37] <emgent> hello guys
[12:38] <emgent> someone around? login password recovery seems not work.
[14:12] <exarkun> What is the expectation for https://code.launchpad.net/~gary/twisted/setuptoolsbug/+merge/7298 ?
[18:04] <andi3> hi, how can I link/tag the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/gdb-linaro/+bug/891970 to/with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdb-msp430 ?
[20:22] <enrico> Someone decided to subscribe me to a launchpad bug (655831) and it happened without any confirmation on my side. 1. WTF?  2. How do I ubsubscribe without logging into launchpad?  3. Can I report the thing as abuse, and how?
[20:29] <czajkowski> enrico: it's not abuse
[20:29] <czajkowski> someone A) may have done it by mistake B) thought the bug may of being relevant to you
[20:30] <enrico> czajkowski: I consider it abuse if I'm not asked first
[20:30] <czajkowski> enrico: viewing the page you should be able to hit the - symbol and remove yourself from it
[20:30] <enrico> czajkowski: I appreciate my concept of abuse may be different than yours, though, but I'm uncomfortable in being forced to abide to yours by launchpad. If there is no way to do otherwise, I'll be closing my account.
[20:31] <czajkowski> enrico: I'm not sure
[20:31] <czajkowski> as far as I know, anyone can someone to a bug
[20:31] <czajkowski> but one of the lp admins would know than me tbh
[20:32] <czajkowski> enrico: maybe a bug should be filed if someone subs you to a bug you should be able to say yes or no
[20:33] <czajkowski> never really occured to me before as I get added to a lot so I then follow up on them
[20:34] <exarkun> czajkowski: imagine that someone wanted to bother you
[20:34] <exarkun> czajkowski: and went from bug to bug, subscribing you
[20:34] <exarkun> it can certainly be abuse.
[20:34] <czajkowski> yup then it'd be abuse you're right. however I've never seen that happen
[20:34] <czajkowski> perhaps that's the projects I'm on
[20:35] <exarkun> czajkowski: I don't think I'm "on" any of the projects you're on
[20:35] <czajkowski> enrico: does have a point
[20:35] <exarkun> czajkowski: But I could just as easily do this to you as anyone else :)
[20:36] <czajkowski> exarkun: you could, indeed as I said enrico does have a point, but I've never heard of massive abuse of subing someone to bugs tbh
[20:36] <enrico> I am not active in ubuntu, my launchpad account exists for historical reasons and as a contact point for bugs that I submitted over the years and are still open. Since I do not have the time to follow the ubuntu side of software in which I am involved, people subscribing me to bugs such as 655831 force me to waste the time to deal with it, go and unsubscribe.
[20:37] <enrico> A setting such as "prevent people to subscribe me to things" or just "I'm not an active Ubuntu developer" would be a valid alternative to deactivating the account
[20:39] <dobey> exarkun: my manager does that all the time. really annoying! :)
[20:39] <czajkowski> possibly the former would make mor sense than the later
[20:39] <czajkowski> dobey: hah!
[20:39] <Ampelbein> enrico: I agree with you about the "ask before being subscribed thing". About having to login to LP: You can just reply to the mail you received with a line containing" unsubscribe". (Notice the leading space). So no need to login.
[20:39] <czajkowski> enrico: if you want file the bug and I'll follow up on it on MOnday if you like
[20:40] <dobey> i don't agree with the ask before subscribing; i think the "you have been subscribed" mail should give you the option to say "this was a mistake" and should tell you who did it, so that if it is actually abuse, then it can be reported and dealt with, better
[20:42] <enrico> Ampelbein: the mail I received saying "You have been subscribed to a public bug by …" does not contain instructions on how to unsubscribe
[20:42] <Ampelbein> dobey: It should work like confirmed opt-in on mailing lists. If you are subscribed you get a mail "If you want to recieve updates click here - if not do nothing".
[20:43] <dobey> Ampelbein: i don't think so. that is infinitely more work for when the subscription is not a mistake (most of the time)
[20:44] <Ampelbein> dobey: Only for those bugs you are being subscribed to by others. Of course the bugs you yourself subscribe to should not send a confirmation.
[20:44] <geser> would it be less "abuse" if LP 'spams' a person who doesn't want to be subscribed to any bug with those mails asking for confirmation?
[20:45] <dobey> Ampelbein: i rarely subscribe myself to bugs; and that idea totally breaks for teams
[20:45] <enrico> I reckon the current system works well for active Ubuntu developers, and fails miserably for people who are not. Fair enough, it's two completely different use cases. I would be quite satisfied with a checkbox in my personal settings that allows me to pick which of the two use cases I fit in
[20:46] <Ampelbein> dobey: Teams are a different matter. But individuals should be able to say "I don't want to be subscribed to bugs unless I agree".
[20:47] <dobey> Ampelbein: a setting that says "Send me confirmation, only if i have this box checked" is better than always sending confirmation, sure; the suggestion sort of implied the latter solution though
[21:06] <nonix4> http 301 that loops to itself is bad, right? bazaar.launchpad.net does that sometimes for me - for example 'http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/gnome-disk-utility/master/view/head:/src/gdu/gdu-linux-md-drive.c?start_revid=930&file_id=src/gdu' does so.
[21:32] <wgrant> enrico: All Launchpad bug notifications should have a link at the bottom to unsubscribe. "To manage notifications about this bug go to:"
[21:35] <wgrant> I'm not sure how it's massively different to Ccing someone on a debbugs email, except that it's impossible to remove yourself in the debbugs case.
[21:43] <enrico> wgrant: the diference is that it's not an accepted or welcome practice, in the Debtags instance of debbugs at least, to subscribe people to bugs without their consent.
[21:44] <enrico> wgrant: and no, the bottom of that debtags mail had no link to unsubscribe
[21:44] <enrico> wgrant: http://paste.debian.net/147118/ was the footer
[21:45] <wgrant> enrico: Huh. Normally there's also this:
[21:45] <wgrant> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
[21:45] <wgrant> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/138545/+subscriptions
[21:45]  * wgrant hunts.
[21:45] <enrico> wgrant: it wasn't in mine. I can forward you the full email if you'd like
[21:46] <wgrant> enrico: That would be good, thanks. wgrant@canonical.com
[21:47] <enrico> wgrant: done
[21:48] <wgrant> enrico: Thanks.
[21:50] <wgrant> enrico: Ah, the "You have been subscribed" notifications use a different template, to which the subscription link was never added.
[21:50] <wgrant> Any other email from the bug should have it.
[21:51] <wgrant> There's even an XXX saying the footer code is duplicated :(
[21:57] <wgrant> Bug #896701
[21:59] <george_e> OOPS-0d7e0dd50d2b83435032d05138724940
[21:59] <george_e> Ran into a problem searching.
[22:00] <george_e> Can anyone please look at the OOPS?
[22:01] <wgrant> george_e: Let me see.
[22:01] <george_e> Thank you.
[22:04] <czajkowski> enrico: nicely spotted
[22:06] <wgrant> george_e: Hmmm, it looks like we might have some DB issues affecting searches at the moment. Were you looking for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus?
[22:06] <george_e> Yes, thank you.
[22:52] <exarkun> What is the expectation for https://code.launchpad.net/~gary/twisted/setuptoolsbug/+merge/7298 ?