[01:11] <buxy> slangasek: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+bug/896452 => want to have a look maybe? M-A: same failing to install due to a difference on changelog.Debian.gz...
[01:13] <slangasek> buxy: yeah, the changelogs are mostly symlinks, and they're apparently architecture-dependent; we should reassign this to qt4-x11
[01:14] <cjwatson> isn't that bug 893826?
[01:30] <slangasek> cjwatson: ah, conceivably
[01:52] <SpamapS> slangasek: wow.. libmysqlclient.. worst.. library.. evar
[01:53] <SpamapS> slangasek: so many one-off autoconf macros to find it poorly
[01:53] <slangasek> heh
[03:14] <infinity> SpamapS: I'm not entirely sure you can blame MySQL for that one.
[03:22] <infinity> @pilot out
[06:09] <SpamapS> infinity: monty taylor seems to blame mysql for that.. ;)
[06:10] <SpamapS> infinity: and you have to admit.. in the land of library authors.. libmysqlclient is the court jester
[06:22] <infinity> SpamapS: That's pretty unfair to libpng.
[06:22] <infinity> SpamapS: And libgd.
[06:22] <infinity> SpamapS: And, actually, almost every image-processing library ever written.
[06:26] <SpamapS> ;)
[11:39] <bkerensa> slangasek: You know what the publickey permission denied message means when I try bzr push
[11:43] <bkerensa> disregard (I forgot to submit my new key)
[12:36] <geser> cjwatson: do you mind if I merge vim? you're TIL due to the perl transition
[12:37] <cjwatson> geser: go ahead
[12:37] <cjwatson> thanks for asking
[12:40] <jtaylor> cjwatson: are you planning on fixing svn bug 881862 in oneiric?
[12:42] <cjwatson> jtaylor: not at present
[12:42] <cjwatson> I encourage somebody else to do so - I can't take on SRUs for everything I happened to touch as part of the Perl transition, sorry
[13:22] <geser> cjwatson: do you know if the ppc64 work-around (DEB_GCC_NO_O3) in vim since natty is still needed? as I can't easily check if it's still needed, I keep this change in every merge
[13:26] <cjwatson> geser: that experimental port is no longer active, so feel free to drop it
[17:16] <SpamapS> cjwatson: the transition tracker seems confused.. several things are shown red, but they clearly depend on libmysqlclient18 ..
[18:17] <cjwatson> SpamapS: can you give me an example?
[18:26] <slangasek> bkerensa: "publickey permission denied" - that you don't have an ssh key that lets you access that server?
[19:30] <SpamapS> cjwatson: mysql++
[19:37] <SpamapS> cjwatson: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libmysqlclient18 (>= 5.5.13-1), libstdc++6 (>= 4.6)
[19:37] <SpamapS> thats libmysql++3
[19:37] <SpamapS> cjwatson: also mysql-ocaml
[19:38] <SpamapS> OH .. wait.. hmm
[19:38] <SpamapS> the -dev libs still have libmysqlclient16-dev ..doh
[19:38] <SpamapS> cjwatson: disregard, I get it
[20:13] <JuN1x> Hi Everybody, What is the policy to import a Debian testing package ?
[20:14] <petar> i'm unable to find the central repository for all ubuntu/debian source packages.. some place where i could take a look at the changes/commits and for example checkout older versions. any ideas?
[20:17] <infinity> petar: Your first mistake is assuming such a place exists.
[20:17] <enrico> Someone decided to subscribe me to a launchpad bug (655831) and it happened without any confirmation on my side. 1. WTF?  2. How do I ubsubscribe without logging into launchpad?  3. Can I report the thing as abuse, and how?
[20:17] <infinity> petar: Older Debian source packages can be found on snapshot.debian.org, and older Ubuntu source packages can be found on launchpad (follow the "publishing history" for a source package).
[20:18] <infinity> petar: But, in both cases, while sometimes the packages have been maintained in revision control, the authoritative versions are the source packages themselves, not any VCS that may or may not have been employed.
[20:18] <petar> wow, i had no idea..
[20:19] <petar> thanks
[20:19] <infinity> enrico: I believe the only person who can unsibscribe you is you.
[20:20] <enrico> infinity: and anyone can subscribe me without my confirmation or consent?
[20:20] <infinity> enrico: (And by "you", I mean you'd need to be authenticated with LP to do so)
[20:20] <infinity> enrico: And yes.  Just like any bug tracker, really.
[20:21] <enrico> infinity: how about the procedure for reporting the abuse?
[20:21] <mdeslaur> enrico: how many bugs did you get subscribed to?
[20:21] <infinity> enrico: Unsure.  Might want to ask in #launchpad.
[20:21] <enrico> mdeslaur: it does not matter how many bugs. Being subscribed to a mailing list without my consent is abuse
[20:22] <enrico> infinity: thanks
[20:22] <infinity> enrico: I don't know any bug tracker that doesn't have that feature.
[20:22] <enrico> infinity: at least the Debian BTS doesn't require you to have an account in the system in order to unsubscribe
[20:23] <infinity> enrico: It doesn't have accounts...
[20:23] <mdeslaur> enrico: either the person thought you needed to be subscribed, or it's a mistake.
[20:23] <enrico> infinity: quite. Isn't that nice?
[20:23] <infinity> enrico: Note that you *have* an LP account.
[20:23] <infinity> enrico: It's impossible to subscribe someone who doesn't.
[20:23] <enrico> infinity: yes I do, but it asks me odd things at login
[20:24] <infinity> (whereas, I can subscribe literally any email address to a Debian bug) :P
[20:24] <infinity> Not arguing that one method's better than the other.  I tend to prefer debbugs too.
[20:24] <mdeslaur> enrico: actually, there's an email interface to launchpad: https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/EmailInterface
[20:24] <infinity> But.  Neither seems more broken than the other.
[20:24] <enrico> infinity: including confirmation of "making some of my personal information available", which I wouldn't want to give
[20:24] <mdeslaur> enrico: as long as you gpg sign your email, you can unsubscribe to the bug
[20:24] <infinity> enrico: It's making what launchpad knows available to launchpad.
[20:25] <infinity> enrico: It's an SSO system that asks you for confirmation to pass your OpenID creds to each new domain that asks.
[20:25] <enrico> infinity: pardon my naivety, but "making what launchpad knows available to launchpad" is nonsense to me
[20:25] <infinity> enrico: Your account in launchpad is tied to a single-sign-on account at login.ubuntu.com.
[20:26] <infinity> enrico: Any new domain asking for access to that OpenID account (including launchpad.net) has to ask permission.
[20:26] <infinity> enrico: Hence the "do you permit us to tell (site) certain things about you?"
[20:27] <enrico> infinity: right, after your explanation I know what it's trying to do, although the login page does its best not to tell me :(
[20:28] <infinity> It could perhaps be a bit less terse.
[20:28] <infinity> Or a lot less. :P
[20:28] <infinity> Though, more verbose confuses everyone else.
[20:28] <infinity> I might bring it up and see if a happy medium of "click here for more information" could be made or something.
[20:29] <enrico> infinity: a "what's this?" link would be what I would have expected, idneed