broder | micahg: as i've said at the TB meetings, i don't think anybody understands how the backports pocket works right now. but i'm pretty sure i've seen uploads from either me or Laney for main packages | 01:57 |
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broder | but i didn't think it was connected to upload rights to the release pocket | 01:57 |
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jtaylor | what is the backport-package versioning going to do when the release names go beyond z? | 13:40 |
geser | jtaylor: I assume it's not decided yet what happens to the versioning scheme to assure the monotic increase of version numbers | 13:45 |
mdeslaur | jtaylor: use release numbers instead of release names? | 13:45 |
jtaylor | so it wil probably change before r to get something like r14.04? | 13:47 |
geser | mdeslaur: don't numbers sort before letters? | 13:48 |
mdeslaur | geser: what's the versioning scheme for backports now? | 13:49 |
geser | jtaylor: or perhaps for "u" (u14.04) | 13:49 |
jtaylor | mdeslaur ~releasename# | 13:49 |
mdeslaur | so just eventually switch to ~10.04.1 or something | 13:50 |
mdeslaur | oh, I see the issue, if you already have some with names | 13:51 |
geser | dpkg --compare-versions 1~precise1 gt 1~12.04.1 && echo yes => yes | 13:51 |
mdeslaur | yes, you'll need to use versions instead of names for all releases, without mixing them | 13:52 |
geser | perhaps we switch to unicode release names after "z" :) | 13:52 |
mdeslaur | you're assuming release names will continue alphabetically...honestly, I don't think that's set in stone | 13:53 |
mdeslaur | maybe versions numbers should be used soon | 13:54 |
jtaylor | might be a good idea | 13:54 |
jtaylor | as long as we still have letters left with which we can prefix the number to be compatible with the old scheme | 13:55 |
mdeslaur | you don't need to be compatible with the old scheme, the next release's version is always higher | 13:55 |
geser | jtaylor: it's only a problem if there are existing backports with the same upstream version | 13:55 |
mdeslaur | jtaylor: do you have an example of a source package that would be problematic now? | 13:56 |
jtaylor | no, but I assume it could happen | 13:56 |
mdeslaur | it could, would probably just be a couple of exceptions | 13:57 |
mdeslaur | so a few get named ~z12.04.1 | 13:57 |
mdeslaur | meh | 13:57 |
geser | I'm still thinking in which case one might need that (assuming nobody uses the version name instead of the release number by mistake) | 13:59 |
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l3on | Hi guys... how can I know the reason due a packages is no more in Ubuntu ? | 15:31 |
l3on | for example, last build of root-system is for maverick... | 15:32 |
and` | l3on: check for it on Debian and look around for an RM bug, packages dropped in Debian are automatically dropped in Ubuntu as well | 15:32 |
jtaylor | root-system may be added again at some point | 15:33 |
jtaylor | I think last time it was removed due to lack of a maintainer | 15:33 |
l3on | thanks and` :) | 15:33 |
and` | l3on: yw :) as a reference http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/r/root-system/root-system_5.18.00-2.3~lenny1/changelog | 15:33 |
jtaylor | its not hard to build it yourself though | 15:34 |
and` | l3on: last upload dated 2009 :) | 15:34 |
and` | l3on: and http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=610011 | 15:34 |
ubottu | Debian bug 610011 in ftp.debian.org "RM: root-system -- RoQA; unmaintained, plenty of RC bugs" [Normal,Open] | 15:34 |
jtaylor | on oneiric you need to use trunk or build without as-needed | 15:35 |
jtaylor | 5.30 does not work with as-needed | 15:35 |
l3on | mmm well.. it could be nice find out a new maintainer :D | 15:35 |
l3on | I'll try to pack it for debian, we'll see... | 15:36 |
jtaylor | it sort of has | 15:36 |
jtaylor | packaging root is no easy task | 15:36 |
jtaylor | its a huge framework | 15:36 |
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l3on | Hi all.. someone aroud? | 20:52 |
l3on | I'm trying to merge forked-daapd | 20:52 |
l3on | but I've some problem during configure: | 20:52 |
l3on | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find crt1.o: No such file or directory | 20:52 |
l3on | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find crti.o: No such file or directory | 20:52 |
l3on | clang: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see invocation) | 20:52 |
l3on | build log is here: http://debomatic.debian.net/precise/pool/forked-daapd_0.19gcd-2ubuntu1/forked-daapd_0.19gcd-2ubuntu1.buildlog | 20:53 |
l3on | On 11.10 "make -f debian/rules build" does not fail at that step... | 20:53 |
Ampelbein | l3on: Yes, that's bug 792146 | 21:00 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 792146 in clang (Ubuntu) "clang can’t link any programs: cannot find crt1.o, crti.o, crtn.o" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/792146 | 21:00 |
l3on | Ampelbein, but in 11.10 configure works fine :/ | 21:01 |
l3on | the problem is in precise | 21:02 |
Ampelbein | l3on: Yes, because precise wasn't added yet as a ubuntu distro. | 21:02 |
l3on | Ampelbein, and so... what have I to do ? :) | 21:02 |
Ampelbein | l3on: (In clang's ToolChains.cpp) | 21:02 |
Ampelbein | l3on: You'd have to add precise in clang-2.9/tools/clang/lib/Driver/ToolChains.cpp in clang. | 21:04 |
l3on | ah ok, Ampelbein I'll do it :) | 21:05 |
l3on | Ampelbein, in this case I've to send patch at debian, right? | 21:06 |
Ampelbein | l3on: Ideally, yes. But Ubuntu works well, too. | 21:07 |
l3on | Ampelbein, one question about clang... but no-supported ubuntu releases can be removed ? | 21:14 |
Ampelbein | l3on: They could be removed, yes. | 21:15 |
l3on | Ampelbein, should I add ubuntu+1 too ? | 21:17 |
l3on | mmm... does Ubuntu (Q) have a name? :P | 21:19 |
broder | l3on: not yet. n+1 is not generally announced until just before n releases | 21:19 |
l3on | ah ok :) | 21:20 |
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broder | l3on: did you ever put a patch for clang together? i'd be happy to upload it | 23:56 |
l3on | broder, I did | 23:56 |
l3on | bug 896695 | 23:57 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 896695 in clang (Ubuntu) "Please add support for Precise in clang" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/896695 | 23:57 |
broder | l3on: ok. i think i'm going to dupe that bug to bug #792146, tweak the changelog, double-check the patch, and upload. sound good? | 23:58 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 792146 in clang (Ubuntu) "clang can’t link any programs: cannot find crt1.o, crti.o, crtn.o" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/792146 | 23:59 |
l3on | broder, ok :) | 23:59 |
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