[10:36] <Kilos> afternoon everyone
[10:36] <Kilos> lurkers as well
[10:44] <hibana> hello world
[10:44] <Kilos> oh my goodness
[10:44] <Kilos> hows hibana 
[10:44]  * hibana struggling without a gui again
[10:44] <Kilos> what happened
[10:45] <hibana> kernel updates including nvidia stuffs broke it all
[10:45] <Kilos> eish
[10:45] <hibana> now I can't even install the new drivers
[10:45] <Kilos> wow
[10:46] <hibana> and I even wasted my bandwidth by downloading the latest oneiric iso
[10:46] <Kilos> i use the default graphics drivers. had too many bad experiences with nvidia and ati drivers after updating
[10:46] <hibana> after writing the iso to usb and booting up it hangs at some stage
[10:47] <Kilos> eish
[10:47] <hibana> now I'm back to try make it work in maverick
[10:48] <Kilos> eina. thats why i am still on maverick as well
[10:48] <Kilos> maverick was a good release
[10:48]  * hibana just wish I could use copy and paste on the cli
[10:48] <Kilos> lol
[10:48] <hibana> then again I think I can
[10:52] <hibana> ahhh...  I just use screen and then I can copy and paste
[10:52]  * hibana busy struggling with NVIDIA-Linux-x86-290.10
[10:53] <Kilos> olg graphics card?
[10:53] <Kilos> old too
[10:54] <hibana> how can I install linux-restricted-modules?
[10:54] <Kilos> on cli?
[10:54] <hibana> linux-restricted-modules is nowhere to be found in the repos
[10:54] <Kilos> on maverick?
[10:55] <hibana> the NVIDIA driver requires that
[10:55] <hibana> Kilos: yep on maverick
[10:55] <Kilos> im checking synaptic
[10:57] <hibana> when I run the nvidia installer I get to a point where it says "The distribution-provided pre-install script failed!"
[10:57] <Kilos> dont see it in synaptic
[10:57] <Kilos> what does aptitude say
[10:58] <hibana> Kilos: nope, it's not there
[10:58] <Kilos> eish
[10:59] <nlsthzn> Hi ZA
[10:59] <Kilos> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "linux-restricted-modules"
[10:59] <Kilos> cant be in the repos
[10:59] <Kilos> hiya nlsthzn 
[11:00] <Kilos> how do you install linux-restricted-modules
[11:00] <tumbleweed> hibana: don't run the nvidia installer, install the nvidia drivers through your package manager
[11:00] <Kilos> not in repos
[11:00] <hibana> tumbleweed: hmm.. I read that somewhere before
[11:00] <hibana> how do I know what to install
[11:01] <hibana> I had it running perfectly before the upgrade
[11:01] <hibana> and still have some nvidia packages installed
[11:01] <tumbleweed> hibana: generally speaking, installing things from the Ubuntu repositories is safe (otherwise the packages wouldn't be in Ubuntu)
[11:01] <tumbleweed> but installing random stuff you download off the internet. Well, who knows what that'll do
[11:02] <hibana> tumbleweed: I tend to agree with that
[11:02] <tumbleweed> uninstalling the nvidia drivers that nvidia provide is nigh impossible, they aren't designed to ever be uninstalled
[11:03] <hibana> tumbleweed: so where do I start? I have not yet installed the NVIDIA version
[11:03] <Kilos> hibana, what if you purge and use nouveau drivers
[11:04] <tumbleweed> hibana: install the nvidia-current package (if you need nvidia proprietory drivers)
[11:04] <Kilos> hiya tumbleweed you been through this before looks like
[11:05] <tumbleweed> Kilos: yeah, it crops up every now and then
[11:05] <hibana> tumbleweed: it is and was installed
[11:05] <Kilos> hehe
[11:06] <tumbleweed> hibana: and it's not working?
[11:06] <hibana> tumbleweed: should I try purging all nvidia packages?
[11:07] <hibana> how do I list installed packages without the description?
[11:07] <hibana> with aptitude
[11:09] <hibana> can I use pastebin on the cli?
[11:10] <Kilos> eish
[11:12] <hibana> hmm... lunchtime
[11:12]  * hibana wbb
[11:13] <Kilos> enjoy
[11:13] <Kilos> you can browse hey?
[11:27]  * hibana is back
[11:27] <Kilos> wow that was quick
[11:27] <Kilos> can you browse hibana 
[11:27] <hibana> Kilos: I don't want to waste your time :-)
[11:27] <Kilos> i asked maaz to google
[11:27] <Kilos> lol thats all i got is time
[11:28] <hibana> tumbleweed: is there no pastebin app for the cli?
[11:28] <Kilos> got 2 links might help you
[11:29] <hibana> Kilos: I can browse with elinks
[11:29] <hibana> or links
[11:29] <hibana> or any of the other textmode browsers
[11:30] <Kilos> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-edgy-upgrade-common-problems-with-solutions.html
[11:30] <hibana> yikes, that's long
[11:30] <Kilos> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/common-problems-and-solutions-for-nvidia-restricted-drivers-after-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex-upgrade.html
[11:31] <Kilos> i dunno how to shorten them
[11:31] <tumbleweed> hibana: pastebinit
[11:31] <Kilos> they are old releases though
[11:31] <hibana> Kilos: no worriess
[11:32] <hibana> tumbleweed: great, thanks
[11:33] <tumbleweed> hibana: deleting your xorg.conf should switch you back to nouveau and you should be able to have a working GUI
[11:34] <tumbleweed> (err, unless the nvidia driver is still getting loadded early in boot.  I never remember how this all works, and don't have any ubuntu machines here with nvidia)
[11:34] <hibana> tumbleweed: http://pastebin.com/XMAbUmzc
[11:35] <hibana> those are all my installed nvidia stuffs
[11:36] <hibana> tumbleweed: let me try removing xorg and rebooting... I doubt that it will work... but I can try
[11:36] <hibana> but before I go there
[11:36] <hibana> let me give you my output of lspci
[11:37] <hibana> http://pastebin.com/LthXF5U3
[11:37]  * hibana <3 pastebinit
[11:38]  * hibana wbb
[11:38] <tumbleweed> hibana: check for anything blacklisting nouveau in /etc/modprobe.d
[11:39] <hibana> hmm... just got that... hang on
[11:41] <hibana> tumbleweed: http://pastebin.com/6fpv0bQY
[11:41] <hibana> tumbleweed: I guess those should not be blacklisted for now?
[11:42] <tumbleweed> if you want nouveau, then yes
[11:42] <tumbleweed> and blacklist nvidia instead
[11:43] <hibana> ahh... but let me try without xorg.conf first
[11:43]  * hibana wbb
[11:47]  * hibana just started irssi in a screen session on some remote system
[11:47]  * hibana wbb
[11:52] <inetpro> ok I'm back in the GUI but had to use nomodeset
[11:52] <inetpro> tumbleweed: ^^
[11:54] <tumbleweed> that presumably makes you happier :)
[11:54] <inetpro> damn...
[11:55] <inetpro> but now how the heck do I get the driver running properly
[11:55] <tumbleweed> what release are you on? what happened?
[11:55] <inetpro> tumbleweed: maverick
[11:57] <tumbleweed> so, presumably it was the linux security update 5 days ago that broke your setup?
[11:57] <inetpro> tumbleweed: very possible
[11:59] <inetpro> to be honest it all started yesterday evening when I switched my laptop on (after hybernating the previous evening)
[11:59] <tumbleweed> oh, I thought you said you'd just installed updates?
[11:59] <inetpro> suddenly my wireless network was dead
[12:00] <inetpro> so I plugged in the network cable and did a update
[12:00] <inetpro> then the update installed the latest kernel and a long list of other stuffs
[12:01] <inetpro> my previous updates were on the 17th according to my logs
[12:02] <inetpro> what is strange is that I've been working on this thing every day since then
[12:02] <tumbleweed> I can't see anyone else complaining about similar issues
[12:04] <inetpro> cat /var/log/dpkg.log | pastebinit -i -  # http://pastebin.com/CKY8LF77
[12:05] <tumbleweed> nvidia-current 285.05.09-0ubuntu1~maverick~xup1
[12:05] <tumbleweed> that's not a version in the official repositories
[12:06] <tumbleweed> are you using some crazy PPA?
[12:06] <inetpro> tumbleweed: hmm...
[12:06] <inetpro> let me see
[12:10] <inetpro> tumbleweed: grep -ih ppa /etc/apt/*/* | egrep -v "^#|^deb-src" | pastebinit -i - # http://pastebin.com/mJjyep53
[12:10] <inetpro> those are all the ppa's that I use
[12:10] <tumbleweed> ubuntu-x-swat <- just as I thought
[12:10] <inetpro> not sure where I got ubuntu-x-swat from
[12:11] <tumbleweed> there's a package called ppa-purge that can help clean that sort of thing up
[12:12] <tumbleweed> when yo uare getting something as core as a graphics driver from a PPA, expect occasional breakage
[12:12] <tumbleweed> kernel updates have massive QA doen before they ship
[12:12] <tumbleweed> but nobody 's going to check them against drivers in PPAs
[12:13] <inetpro> yikes
[12:13] <inetpro> obviously
[12:18]  * inetpro running ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[12:19] <inetpro> tumbleweed: thanks for the help so far
[12:21] <inetpro> ok, I guess this calls for a renoot?
[12:21] <inetpro> reboot*
[12:21] <Kilos> lol
[12:23] <inetpro> Eish! 
[12:23] <Kilos> what now
[12:23] <inetpro> Inetpro on mobile 
[12:24] <Kilos> oh my
[12:24] <inetpro> Screen still with big white blocks as before 
[12:25] <Kilos> eina
[12:27] <inetpro> Need to start with nomodeset 
[12:28] <tumbleweed> inetpro: you may need to rebuild your initrd
[12:28] <inetpro> ok... back online with yucky resolution
[12:29] <inetpro> tumbleweed: how?
[12:29] <tumbleweed> did you reverse the blacklistings yet?
[12:29] <inetpro> no 
[12:30] <tumbleweed> first do that
[12:30] <tumbleweed> then run update-initramfs -u
[12:31] <inetpro> hmm... hang on
[12:31] <inetpro> in /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf I have the following
[12:31] <inetpro> blacklist nouveau
[12:31] <inetpro> blacklist lbm-nouveau
[12:31] <inetpro> blacklist nvidia-173
[12:31] <inetpro> blacklist nvidia-96
[12:32] <inetpro> tumbleweed: what do you suggest I do?
[12:32] <tumbleweed> sounds good
[12:33] <inetpro> should I run  update-initramfs -u ?
[12:33] <tumbleweed> err, maybe you want to unblacklist the nvidia-* ones first
[12:33] <inetpro> ahh.. I thought so
[12:33] <inetpro> ok, hang on
[12:34] <inetpro> Rebooting 
[12:35] <inetpro> Eish! No... 
[12:35] <inetpro> Same thing
[12:38] <inetpro> tumbleweed: next step?
[12:42]  * inetpro reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[12:43] <inetpro> again
[12:48] <tumbleweed> inetpro: dmesg output, please
[12:49] <inetpro> # dmesg | pastebinit -i - # http://pastebin.com/JCAG0HuF
[12:50] <tumbleweed> the nvidia driver never loaded
[12:51] <tumbleweed> does modprobe nvidia load it?
[12:51] <tumbleweed> you have a very noisy wireless card :P
[12:51] <tumbleweed> oh, sorry, nouveau loaded
[12:51] <inetpro> tumbleweed: true
[12:51] <tumbleweed> I thought you blacklisted it?
[12:51] <inetpro> hmm... I have
[12:52] <tumbleweed> and then regenerated the initramfs, right?
[12:52] <tumbleweed> it loaded during initramfs execution
[12:53] <inetpro> tumbleweed: nope, have not done that
[12:53] <inetpro> hang on
[12:54] <inetpro> tumbleweed: guess I should reboot again?
[12:54] <tumbleweed> yes
[12:57] <inetpro> no, same thing 
[12:58] <inetpro> # dmesg | pastebinit -i - # http://pastebin.com/J9ic0Vr0
[13:01] <inetpro> # cat /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-kernel-nkc.conf 
[13:01] <inetpro> alias char-major-195* nvidia
[13:02] <inetpro> options nvidia NVreg_DeviceFileUID=0 NVreg_DeviceFileGID=44 NVreg_DeviceFileMode=0660
[13:02] <inetpro> # cat /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf 
[13:02] <inetpro> blacklist nouveau
[13:02] <inetpro> blacklist lbm-nouveau
[13:02] <inetpro> #blacklist nvidia-173
[13:02] <inetpro> #blacklist nvidia-96
[13:03] <tumbleweed> what was the output when you regenerated teh initramfs?
[13:03] <tumbleweed> (do it again)
[13:03] <inetpro> # update-initramfs -u
[13:03] <inetpro> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.35-31-generic
[13:03] <inetpro> taht's it
[13:04] <tumbleweed> hrm, seems right
[13:05] <inetpro> tumbleweed: you wanna see the verbose output ?
[13:05] <tumbleweed> sure
[13:05] <inetpro> http://pastebin.com/JbfE0qqS
[13:08] <tumbleweed> clearly I'm missing something, but I can't see what
[13:10] <inetpro> tumbleweed: if we can fix this in the standard ubuntu I'm sure we will have a lot of other happy customers
[13:11] <tumbleweed> inetpro: it's not a problem in standard ubuntu
[13:11] <inetpro> I tried the latest version of ubuntu
[13:11] <inetpro> it does the same thing
[13:11] <inetpro> I can start with a clean install if you want
[13:11] <tumbleweed> and then enabled a ppa with the lastest X crack
[13:12] <tumbleweed> I'm sure the solution to the problem in front of you right now is simple, but I'm afraid that I can't see it
[13:13] <tumbleweed> maybe a clean install is your easiest way out
[13:13] <inetpro> I have Ubuntu Oneiric with me on another usb disk
[13:13] <inetpro> sadly my kubuntu one doesn't work 
[13:13] <inetpro> ok, let me get that going 
[13:14] <inetpro> I'll be back after installing quassel-client
[13:14] <inetpro> time for me to play with unity
[13:17] <inetpro> I'll call missionX
[13:19] <inetpro> Starting 
[13:19] <inetpro> Hmm
[13:20] <inetpro> Starting installation with nomodeset 
[13:25] <inetpro> Eish... 
[13:27] <inetpro> ubiquity takes for ever and then crashes 
[13:31] <inetpro> I'm stumped! Will have to find something else. 
[13:31] <tumbleweed> why are you using nomodeset everywhere?
[13:32] <inetpro> What can I use if otherwise I can not get into the gui? 
[13:33] <tumbleweed> that sounds like you may have bigger problems
[13:33] <tumbleweed> nouveau should support that card just fine
[13:34] <inetpro> I just get a big maze of white blocks on the screen if I don't use nomodeset 
[13:34] <inetpro> And so do colleagues with the same hardware 
[13:35] <tumbleweed> from the live CD?
[13:35] <inetpro> Yep 
[13:35] <tumbleweed> what hardware?
[13:36] <inetpro> Mecer
[13:36] <inetpro> Model: W86CU
[13:43] <tumbleweed> that looks rather like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/657736
[13:46] <inetpro> Very similar yes 
[14:15] <Kilos> eish inetpro this is a stinker hey?
[14:28] <inetpro> Kilos: I will win it in the end 
[14:29] <Kilos> its hard to understand how this happens when it was working before
[14:31] <inetpro> watch this space
[14:35] <Kilos> ok
[14:53] <inetpro> Kilos: the only problem is that there's other life as well
[14:54] <Kilos> lol
[14:54]  * inetpro trying to resize my casper-rw loop file
[14:55] <inetpro> think that is what's killing ubiquity
[14:55]  * inetpro found http://www.pendrivelinux.com/how-to-create-a-larger-casper-rw-loop-file/
[14:55] <Kilos> you having this prob on a clean install?
[14:56] <inetpro> Kilos: I'm not even there yet
[14:56] <inetpro> the installer crashes
[14:56] <Kilos> maverick as well?
[14:57] <inetpro> no oneiric but it has nothing to do with the distro or version
[14:57] <inetpro> I installed some additional stuffs on the live disk
[14:58] <Kilos> you added stuff to the iso then burned a cd?
[14:59] <inetpro> no
[14:59] <inetpro> while running off the live cd I installed stuff
[14:59] <Kilos> so what additional stuff then?
[14:59] <inetpro> s/live cd/live usb disk/
[15:00] <Kilos> ok
[15:00] <Kilos> but clean install will forst format then start to install
[15:00] <inetpro> like gnome-tweak-* screen, ++
[15:00] <Kilos> i lost now
[15:01] <inetpro> Kilos: you can run your OS from a live disk without installing
[15:01] <Kilos> didnt know you can install stuff then clean install
[15:01] <Kilos> yes
[15:01] <inetpro> a usb drive is rw
[15:02] <inetpro> read and write
[15:02] <Kilos> but dont you first have to mount the drive then do that
[15:02] <inetpro> Kilos: heh, it's mounted during the boot process
[15:03] <Kilos> is it if you are running from the live cd?
[15:03] <Kilos> i had to manually mount from live cd to fix grub
[15:11] <inetpro> Kilos: yes, while running on the live cd I installed additional stuff
[15:11] <inetpro> s/cd/usb/
[15:17] <inetpro> Kilos: the stuff that gets installed on the live disk lives in a file called casper-rw on the CD or the USB 
[15:17] <Kilos> ah
[15:17] <inetpro> that file is actually just another raw partition
[15:18] <inetpro> or another ISO in itself
[15:32] <inetpro> ok the problem with ubiquity crashing was not the size
[15:33]  * inetpro busy running apt-get upgrade on the bigger live disk
[15:33] <inetpro> perhaps that will sort it
[15:39] <inetpro> hmm... this will take a while... now on 30%
[16:05] <Kilos> sjoe
[16:16] <nlsthzn> Hi all... seems my first install of Wordpress is now finally working \o/
[16:16] <superfly> ohi nlsthzn
[16:16] <nlsthzn> hey superfly :) 
[16:17] <superfly> I don't know WordPress anymore... I know Drupal better, so these days it's easier and faster to do what I want in Drupal
[16:19] <nlsthzn> Cool, I don't know any of them... this is my first "server" etc...
[16:24] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn superfly 
[16:39] <nlsthzn> Hi again uncle Kilos 
[16:39] <Kilos> hehe
[16:44] <Kilos> goosie wen jy??
[16:45] <Kilos> inetpro, ^^
[16:45] <Kilos> hibana, ^^
[16:46] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[16:46]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[16:47] <nlsthzn> Maaz, tea please
[16:47] <Maaz> As soon as the kettle boils I will pour boiling water into your cup if you have the tea bag in already
[16:47] <nlsthzn> thanks Maaz 
[16:48] <Kilos> 4 more days nlsthzn 
[16:48] <nlsthzn> \o/
[16:50] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[16:50] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[16:50] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[16:50] <nlsthzn> Maaz, thanks
[16:50] <Maaz> nlsthzn: Okay :-)
[17:49] <Kilos> looks like inetpro has blown up his pc or else gone fishing
[17:53] <inetpro> eish Kilos
[17:54] <inetpro> had to fetch kids and have dinner and all kinds of stuff in between
[17:54] <Kilos> wat gaan aan boetie
[17:54] <Kilos> lol ok
[17:54] <inetpro> updates take way to much space
[17:55] <inetpro> 1GB is not enough these days
[17:55] <Kilos> are you updating the usb drive?
[17:55] <inetpro> Kilos: yep and the thing was full again
[17:55] <Kilos> eish
[17:55] <inetpro> did some cleaning and broke libreoffice
[17:56] <inetpro> thought I would get away with that
[17:56] <Kilos> why not install and get it working then use remastersys to burn a dvd of your whole system
[17:56] <inetpro> but ubiquity wants everything up to date before it will be happy
[17:57] <Kilos> eish
[17:57]  * inetpro learned the hard way now
[17:57] <inetpro> don't let the system learn about new updates
[17:57] <Kilos> and its all bandwidth lost every time
[17:57] <inetpro> or it will want them all
[17:58] <Kilos> thats part of the reason i turned off updates
[17:58] <inetpro> but Kilos I must say the new ubuntu looks like you can work with it
[17:58] <Kilos> firefox alone used to kill me
[17:58] <Kilos> unity?
[17:58] <inetpro> yep
[17:59] <inetpro> but gimme some time before I tell you that it's nice
[17:59] <Kilos> lol
[17:59] <Kilos> gnome is nice
[18:39] <Kilos> night all. have a good successful evening and sleep tight
[18:43] <nlsthzn> Good night ZA
[19:01] <inetpro> eish... I give up for now with installing ubuntu
[19:01] <inetpro> ubiquity keeps crashing even after everything is updated
[19:02]  * inetpro is back on a kubuntu with yucky resolution
[19:04] <inetpro> am contemplating installing SUSE or something else
[19:04] <inetpro> or mint
[19:04] <inetpro> just can't waste to much bandwidth right now
[19:11] <inetpro> hmm... what's wrong with za.archive.ubuntu.com again?
[19:11] <Kerbero> no idea
[19:11] <Kerbero> but i saw that too
[19:11] <Kerbero> thought it was our network
[19:12] <inetpro> what other local repos do we have?
[19:12] <Kerbero> ftp.sun.ac.za
[19:13] <inetpro> thanks
[19:13] <Kerbero> np
[19:14] <Kerbero> ftp.sun is my primary repo
[19:14] <Kerbero> mirror.ac fallback
[19:14] <inetpro> can I use variables in the sources.list file?
[19:14] <inetpro> bad idea to replace all those lines every time you want to change a repo
[19:15] <Kerbero> copy paste
[19:15] <Kerbero> gedit -> replace
[19:15] <Kerbero> lol
[19:19] <superfly> inetpro: sources.list.mirror, sources.list.sun, etc
[19:19] <superfly> then just symlink the one you want
[19:20] <inetpro> superfly: hang on please go slow there
[19:20] <inetpro> I'm very tired of struggling by now :-(
[19:20] <inetpro> superfly: please explain that
[19:20] <superfly> inetpro: create separate files, so that each file contains that particular repo
[19:21] <inetpro> ahh
[19:21] <superfly> so, sources.list.sun contains the ftp.sun.ac.za repo
[19:21] <superfly> then you just create sources.list as a symlink to the particular one you want
[19:21] <inetpro> I gues the sun repos need to have ftp:// in front?
[19:23] <inetpro> eish
[19:24] <inetpro> I can't even get to ftp.sun.ac.za
[19:24] <inetpro> Telkom routing ftl!
[19:24] <inetpro> HOP 13  146.232.65.10  179.620 ms !X  178.880 ms !X  170.909 ms !X
[19:31] <inetpro> tumbleweed: now here's something I ddn't get before
[19:31] <inetpro> http://pastebin.com/91BNrCyE
[19:32]  * inetpro going to try rebooting again
[19:34] <inetpro> damn!
[19:34] <inetpro> now I need to make sure about this
[19:34] <inetpro> it started without having to do nomodeset
[19:35] <inetpro> but it was as if I had it set
[19:35] <inetpro> bad resolution... everything big
[19:35] <inetpro> now if only tumbleweed was still around
[19:37] <inetpro> that is after I set the repo to just archive.ubuntu.com
[19:37] <inetpro> perhaps za.archive may have played a role in messing up my working system?
[19:42] <inetpro> tumbleweed: my new dmesg >> http://pastebin.com/6rm0NuDE
[19:55] <inetpro> now where do I find linux-source-2.6.35-31-generic 
[19:55] <inetpro> for maverick
[20:10] <superfly> inetpro: did you try https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/657736/comments/45 ?
[20:11] <inetpro> superfly: where do I find the Additional Drivers feature? 
[20:12] <superfly> inetpro: Kubuntu? K menu -> Applications -> System -> Additional Drivers
[20:13] <inetpro> superfly: ahh... 
[20:13] <inetpro> doing that now
[20:15] <inetpro> superfly: no
[20:15] <inetpro> it found two drivers, NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver and Software modem
[20:16] <inetpro> both are perfectly installed and currently in use
[20:16] <inetpro> but I noticed something else
[20:17] <inetpro> on that same menu I see NVIDIA X server settings
[20:17] <inetpro> when I open that I get "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."
[20:19] <superfly> inetpro: try that
[20:19] <inetpro> have now run that with 'sudo nvidia-xconfig' and am about to restart
[20:19] <inetpro> Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[20:19] <inetpro> Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
[20:19] <inetpro> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[20:20] <inetpro> walla!
[20:21] <inetpro> or rather VOILLA!
[20:21] <superfly> ja, was about to say so
[20:22] <inetpro> UNBELIEVALBLE! That I had to struggle like this
[20:23] <inetpro> tumbleweed, superfly: Thanks for all your help
[20:28] <superfly> np
[21:34]  * hibana going in deep sleep mode again
[21:40] <Kerbero> Symmetria: mirror.ac.za seems down
[21:46] <inetpro> Kerbero: hmm... we need to teach Maaz the email address for the NOC at Tenet
[21:46] <Kerbero>  hehe
[21:46] <Kerbero> yeah
[21:46] <Kerbero> but symmetria said he will still have access to mirror
[21:47] <inetpro> sure, but he's not been very accessible lately
[21:48] <Kerbero> true that
[21:49] <inetpro> good night everyone