[00:01] <sasori> genii-around: before i reboot, what was that remount you 're referring to, earlier ?
[00:01] <admon> hola
[00:01] <SpyderZ> Ok, when I try to do  # X -configure I am getting this error: http://pastebin.com/RtnSevs6
[00:01] <admon> buenass
[00:02] <SpyderZ> Any ideas on how to make sure Ubuntu is using the S3 driver?
[00:02] <genii-around> sasori: If you did not get a second screen prompting whether you wanted to remount the filesystem as writeable, don't worry about it
[00:02] <SpyderZ> I'm trying to get my second VGA screen working.
[00:02] <sasori> ok cool
[00:02] <admon> a
[00:02] <bazhang> !es | admon
[00:04] <zykotick9> sasori, recovery - sorry was thinking livecd
[00:04] <zykotick9> genii-around, sorry wasn't thinking about the right thing.  see above ;)
[00:04] <zykotick9> SpyderZ, vmware looking issue to me.
[00:04] <SpyderZ> zykotick9: I'm not using vmware at all.
[00:06] <kurisu> ok so after looking around I'm getting a fatal server error in xorg.1.log.old.... have there been any updates in the last 2 / 3 days to xorg???
[00:07] <daniel> for some reason when i login i don't get unity, i get a file menu
[00:07] <daniel> seems even a step down from gnome classic, no applications on the menu
[00:07] <daniel> as though it loads into nautilus
[00:08] <zykotick9> SpyderZ, that appears to be a vmware driver that X is failing to load??
[00:08] <daniel> i tried reinstalling ubuntu-desktop but it didnt help
[00:08] <SpyderZ> how do I install everything vmware?
[00:10] <SpyderZ> This is my first 24 hours in unbent…I'm familiar with Centos. Seems a lot is different between the two distributions. Like RPM and yum for example.
[00:10] <arooni-mobile> gure how can i verify what is running on port 6379
[00:10] <phlux> MeQuerSat: Just letting you know the boot fix disc got me up-and-running. Thanks for the suggestion. Any ideas what leads to that happening?
[00:10] <zykotick9> daniel, do you have a 2nd user on the system?  can they log into unity?
[00:10] <sasori> my system is fixed now.. thanks alot genii-around  &  zykotick9  :D
[00:10] <genii-around> sasori: Good! :)
[00:11] <daniel> zykotick9: i have a guest, i should try that
[00:11] <zykotick9> arooni-mobile, "lsof | grep 6379" might work
[00:11] <arooni-mobile> zykotick9, if i dont see anythere there?
[00:12] <arooni-mobile> nevermind i needed to be admin for that command
[00:12] <zykotick9> arooni-mobile, non-conclusive test really.  you need someone to give you the port testing method.
[00:15] <daniel> i can login as guest and i get unity...are there some files under home i can remove to get back to default config somehow?
[00:17] <SpyderZ> Yeah, this second monitor thing is almost a deal killer for me here.
[00:17] <SpyderZ> If I can't get it working in 1 hour I'm going to have to go back to crappy Windows.
[00:18] <murfie> SpyderZ: I yawn at you
[00:18] <SpyderZ> murfie: I wish your yawn was the answer.
[00:19] <murfie> heheh
[00:19] <murfie> didn't work?
[00:19] <daniel> SpyderZ: why dont you go back to crappy windows?
[00:20] <SpyderZ> I rather get Ubuntu working.
[00:20] <Jeruvy> SpyderZ, how about some details then?
[00:20] <SpyderZ> But every time I try a Linux desktop there is always something that is a deal killer in regards to usability.
[00:20] <murfie> ubuntu is only for 1 monitor, really
[00:21] <murfie> there was no deal in first place, afaik
[00:21] <yagoo> murfie, xorg is pretty much a pita..
[00:22] <murfie> yagoo: yes, that's part of the deal..
[00:22] <SpyderZ> I installed Ubuntu 11.10 on a Fujitsu Amilo V2055 running S3 video. The main LCD is cracked so it depends on a external VGA. When booting the VGA displays the startup, but as soon as it logs in the external display goes to sleep. When in the display prefs it only shows an unknown monitor for the main cracked LCD with now recognition of the VGA extended monitor.
[00:23] <murfie> uncrack your lcd?
[00:23] <yagoo> murfie, you have to setup the serverlayout properly, or if xorg.conf isn't used, xrandr is the tool to use (if xrandr shows incorrect info-- like only 1 monitor.. then you need to setup an xorg.conf file)
[00:23] <SpyderZ> Have a time machine?
[00:23] <murfie> SpyderZ: no sorry :(
[00:24] <murfie> I do have an internet connection to connect to ebay though.. where I could find a spare lcd
[00:25] <murfie> yes to be honest, ubuntu sucks at using more than 1 screen
[00:26] <SpyderZ> Ugh
[00:26] <kclark> Anyone know what patch for aircrack work's best with kernel 3.0.0?
[00:26] <SpyderZ> Glad I didn't install this on my desktop which has six screens!!
[00:27] <murfie> oh.. I meant ubuntu sucks at using 2 screens. 6 is no problem of course
[00:27] <murfie> kclark: why.. doesn't it work?
[00:28] <kclark> I'm getting a hunk failed message murfie
[00:28] <murfie> I never fail
[00:28] <kclark> I'm using the patch available on aircrack's website
[00:29] <kclark> Can I PM you murfie?
[00:29] <murfie> no use
[00:29] <murfie> I'd only point you in the wrong direction
[00:30] <stevecam> what role does ubuntu provide to its users?
[00:30] <kclark> lol, well thanks for being honest.  I can only find a 2.6 patch out there and no info on it working with 3.0.0
[00:45] <a6r40x1m3n35> hi
[00:49] <segismundo> hey, can anyone who lives or has been to amsterdam pm me plz?
[00:49] <jrib> !ot | segismundo
[00:49] <segismundo> uh ok
[00:50] <murfie> segismundo: me
[00:51]  * murfie is in amsterdam
[00:51] <murfie> and I run ubuntu
[00:52] <murfie> so it's not OT
[00:52] <jrib> murfie: this channel is for ubuntu support, not ubuntu *whatever* :)
[00:52] <murfie> hmm
[00:52] <murfie> but.., but..
[00:52] <murfie> amsterdam is _built_ on ubuntu
[00:52] <murfie> really.......
[00:53] <murfie> you know the anne frank house?
[00:53] <murfie> what they did.. was just apt-get install anne-frankhouse
[00:54] <murfie> canals? same.... - `dig canals`
[00:54] <zykotick9> murfie, please stop the "chit-chat", if you want to chat use  #ubuntu-offtopic - the quiet in #ubuntu right now is amazing, but still doesn't mean it's ok to talk OT
[00:54] <szal> very funny, but still wrong place here
[00:55] <SpyderZ> LIghtDM display is failing on start up.
[00:55] <atkrad> how do display list of package can upgrade with 'apt-get'
[00:55] <SpyderZ> Is there away I can bypass and start up to CLI?
[00:55] <zykotick9> SpyderZ, can you CTRL+ALT+F1 ? (use c+a+f7 to get back btw)
[00:56] <SpyderZ> zkotick9: On boot X is failing…and halting in the startup. I need to tell Ubuntu not to boot to X and just go to the cli
[00:56] <zykotick9> !tab > SpyderZ
[00:57] <SpyderZ> Thanks
[00:57] <zykotick9> SpyderZ, can you boot recovery from grub to fix it?  (hold shift after BIOS to get menu if you currently don't see it)
[00:57] <SpyderZ> Thanks
[00:59] <atkrad> how do select and upgrade packages?
[00:59] <zykotick9> atkrad, you can use -s to simulate what apt-get will do (but i'm not very fond of the output myself)
[00:59] <Agentul^007> :P
[00:59]  * murfie hopes this channel is not full of autists, but also with human ppl
[01:00] <Agentul^007> who likes my ip:D
[01:00] <rodhash> Hello guys.. Does anyone know this error message?
[01:00] <rodhash> (emerald:2591): Wnck-CRITICAL **: wnck_workspace_get_height: assertion `WNCK_IS_WORKSPACE (space)' failed
[01:01] <atkrad> tnx
[01:01] <Agentul^007> who likes my ip:D??
[01:01] <murfie> as a side note, somebody please explain how to put up a l2tpv3 tunnel in ubuntu 10.04
[01:01] <JasonGriffee> software install is stuck on "waiting apt-get to exit". causes?
[01:01] <murfie> Agentul^007: maybe ask another 100 times
[01:02] <Agentul^007> :)))
[01:02] <Agentul^007> oya
[01:02] <Agentul^007> 150:P
[01:03] <Agentul^007> Dream nice ipv6 :P
[01:04] <Dream> Oh why thank you Agentul^007
[01:04] <Agentul^007> Dream  is first time wen i using ipv6 and i am happy:P
[01:04] <pangolin> !ot
[01:05] <atkrad> how do change my computer name
[01:05] <jrib> !hostname | atkrad
[01:05] <murfie> or go to the town hall
[01:07] <kicker> can someone help me please.... i have little experience w/  linux/ubuntu
[01:08] <etzerd> hello all
[01:08] <Red-Bull> hello. i have ubuntu 11.10 64bit and a question about ipv6 tunnel from hurriance..
[01:08] <Red-Bull> when i got ping6 ipv6.google.com the first packets get dropped
[01:08] <Red-Bull> i get reply after 20sek..
[01:09] <Red-Bull> and i dont know why
[01:09] <murfie> problem with changing hostname it that you've always leftovers of the old hostname in files like /etc/printcap, /etc/mailname etc
[01:09] <swipeologist> Hi. anyone know of any decent VoIP apps for ubuntu 11.10 64bit?
[01:09] <etzerd> how do I increase the font on ubuntu 11.10?
[01:09] <lelis> hola
[01:09] <lelis> hpla\
[01:09] <arelis> ksksks
[01:10] <arelis> ksalsakl
[01:10] <lelis> aajaja
[01:10] <xangua> install gnome-tweak-tool etzerd
[01:10] <kicker> when i installed ubuntu last night it had my name on the administrator and a password... i cant do anything. what should i do?
[01:10] <murfie> or buy glasses, etzerd
[01:10] <kicker> i didnt set a password
[01:11] <etzerd> thanks
[01:11] <murfie> welcome
[01:11] <xangua> kicker: you did, you seem to have forgoten it
[01:11] <murfie> try the name of your girlfriend
[01:12] <stevecam> when copying a large file, the rest of my system becomes slugish, how can i prevent this?
[01:12] <kicker> could it be from when i had a previous verison?
[01:13] <jrib> murfie: please stay on-topic in this channel.  If you want to chit-chat about random things, join us in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:13] <kicker> and i have a boyfriend not a girl... cant deal with em  haha..
[01:13] <murfie> renice +19 `pidof cp`
[01:13] <murfie> kicker: there lies your problem
[01:14] <kicker> is there anything i can do to reset it
[01:14] <jrib> !password | kicker
[01:15] <murfie> probably easiest is just to reinstall since you didn't do much with it yet anyway
[01:15] <canterer> how can I remove all of resource about vim
[01:15] <jrib> canterer: what do you mean exactly?
[01:16] <canterer> I want to install vim once more
[01:16] <jrib> canterer: why?
[01:16] <kicker> thanks everyone..
[01:16] <murfie> apt-get purge ^vim.*
[01:16] <canterer> I want to configer my vim to suit my develop envirment
[01:17] <murfie> vi ~/.vimrc
[01:19] <jrib> canterer: why do you want to install vim once more in order to configure vim?  Why don't you just configure vim now?
[01:19] <atkrad> how do load alias on all users?
[01:20] <canterer> I  have installed several versions of vim
[01:20] <ggkjgjhg> Hi, is anyone running in EFI-mode? (Preferably on Lenovo (and then Preferably X121e))
[01:20] <ggkjgjhg> ?
[01:20] <ggkjgjhg> I have run into some issues with efibootmgr
[01:20] <murfie> echo alias bla=blabla >> /etc/bash.bashrc
[01:20] <ggkjgjhg> probably firmware related though
[01:21] <nechayev> ok ubernoob question here...i boot to tty1, run xinit, play something with sound, there is no sound in x, but there is in tty1
[01:22] <murfie> click the unmute button
[01:22] <nechayev> checked that, nothing is muted, everything is turned up all the way
[01:23] <nechayev> just checked again as well
[01:23] <atkrad> how do change bash prompt?
[01:23] <kicker> hey murf you were right... it was my partners name... ive never used that for a password.. wow.. i wasted so much time.. lol
[01:24] <murfie> export PS1=bla
[01:25] <murfie> of course you did
[01:26] <atkrad> tnx murfie.
[01:27] <murfie> you probably want some \u \h and \w's in it
[01:29] <gmt_> does anyone know what the audio device is now called? I need to capture audio with VLC, /dev/dsp and /dev/audio don't exist.
[01:30] <murfie> export PS1="hello \u on \h, you are now in \w, what can I do for you? "
[01:31] <murfie> njancat?
[01:32] <ayrton_> wine chat?
[01:32] <rhoenix> hellooo
[01:32] <bazhang> ayrton_, #winehq
[01:32] <rhoenix> may i join?
[01:32] <murfie> wine is not emacs
[01:33] <bazhang> rhoenix, ubuntu support question?
[01:33] <atkrad> what is 'njancat'?
[01:33] <stevecam> how would i prevent the rest of my computer from not responding when copying a large (5GB+) file
[01:33] <rhoenix> hmmm.
[01:34] <murfie> google njancat and feel lucky
[01:34] <Artemis3> proper spell is nyan isn't?
[01:37] <murfie> it is
[01:38] <atkrad> h
[01:42] <ggkjgjhg> h
[01:43] <ggkjgjhg> what is the best channel to contact the engineers for lenovo thinkpad firmware. i get the idea my bug reports don't get through support.....
[01:44] <ggkjgjhg> then maybe I am wrong and it is due to software problems..
[01:44] <ikonia> ggkjgjhg: email lenovo
[01:44] <Artemis3> go to lenovo hq with a huge banner in chinese?
[01:44] <ikonia> Artemis3: please don't offer silly help
[01:45] <HURRA2000> Hi there! Since upgrading to Ubuntu 11.10 i cannot connect to wap-encrypted networks via wlan anymore. Does anybody have tis Problem as well.
[01:45] <ggkjgjhg> ikonia: I have emailed them alreay of course I have the idea their firmware development is in Japan by the way, at least a part of it, maybe that's why it needs some time to trickle through
[01:46] <ikonia> ggkjgjhg: well, we can't help you with Lenovo's response time, just sit tight and wait for a response
[01:48] <ggkjgjhg> ikonia: very true, just hoping for a miracle.... in the meantime: how can I debug ubuntuhibernation for my notebook?
[01:48] <ikonia> ggkjgjhg: checking the syslog is always a good start
[01:49] <ggkjgjhg> ikonia: will do
[01:50] <ggkjgjhg> thanks&goodbye, if I get some sensible info i will be back/file a bug in launchpad
[01:50] <ggkjgjhg> et info from syslog I mean ;)
[01:51] <uddk> so, what's the most secure browser? I always thought that one goes to links*, elinks and the like. Turns out none of them properly supports https. You can't view certificates with them they don't warn you about anything. Is there a browser that runs in a tty and does all that?
[01:51] <HURRA2011> Now i got it. Works in XChat much better then via web-access.
[01:51] <ikonia> uddk: they all support https
[01:52] <ikonia> uddk: if there is a bug - log it
[01:52] <uddk> ikonia,  note the "properly", that behavior is long known and reported already upstream
[01:52] <HURRA2011> Godday everybody. Is this the right place to ask some questions concerning problems with Ubuntu 11.10?
[01:53] <uddk> ikonia, it wouldn't be a bug anyway, just a enhancement and those don't get high priority even if they are security vulns
[01:53] <ikonia> uddk: ok, so we can't help you then
[01:54] <uddk> ikonia, wtf? I was asking if there is maybe one which I haven't tested that does support tsl certs
[01:54] <ikonia> uddk: tone down the language please.
[01:54] <uddk> ikonia, how do you know no one in this channel knows anything???
[01:54] <ikonia> uddk: I was under the impression firefox could deal with tsl certficiates
[01:55] <uddk> ikonia, firefox doesn't run in text mode/tty/ssh shell
[01:55] <ikonia> uddk: sorry, I missed the part that you said a command line browser
[01:56] <jrib> uddk: try w3m
[01:56] <dewcow> i missed some of this, but have you tried lynx?
[01:56] <bekks> or links2
[01:56] <dewcow> i don't know what specifically you are looking for
[01:57] <HURRA2011> So another go: Since upgrading to ubuntu 11.10 i cant connect to Wap-secured networks anymore. with using Linux mint 11 everything was fine. Did anybody simular problems?
[01:58] <dewcow> HURRA2011: one of my networks is a wpa and from my 11.10 I have been able to connect fine
[01:58] <nvz> HURRA2011: verify that wpasupplicant is installed, dpkg -l wpasupplicant
[01:58] <uddk> jrib, bekks w3m and links2 don't warn me when visiting https://alioth.debian.org
[01:59] <dewcow> uddk: try lynx
[01:59] <uddk> dewcow, forgot about that one, testing know
[01:59] <jdtm> Hello, I am having some Wifi stability issues. On Ubuntu 11.10. I am using an HWUG1 wireless Usb adapter, connecting to a TL-WR541G wireless router. I am experiencing a packet loss of about 5%, Which is annoying in some online games. I also dual boot win 7, and it works perfectly fine there. Here is my iwconfig, if it helps: http://paste.ubuntu.com/749900/. Any help is appreciated.
[01:59] <dewcow> uddk: also go into the settings, i think its just '?' and change to advanced
[02:00] <dewcow> uddk: i meant 'o' for options, not ?
[02:01] <uddk> dewcow, It's capital O, the site doesn't load at all, so it looks promising, hang on
[02:01] <HURRA2011> nvz: wpasupplicant is installed
[02:02] <HURRA2011> dewcow: Are you also using a Intel wlan card?
[02:02] <nvz> HURRA2011: have you recently failed to connect to a wpa access point? if so you would want to examine and possibly pastebin the tail end of dmesg so we can see whats happening.
[02:04] <nvz> HURRA2011: dmesg will show all the activity of the driver attemting to associate, authenticate..etc
[02:04] <dewcow> uddk: good news, let me know how it turns out.
[02:04] <admon> quien
[02:04] <admon> quien
[02:04] <admon> quien
[02:04] <FloodBot1> admon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:05] <dewcow> HURRA2011: the chipset is a Broadcom.
[02:05] <FerchoLP> talking about htat, since the first update to kernel 3, I have very unstable wifi connections with some specific routers, i.e. wrt54g. I have Intel 4965AGN. Is it a known problem?
[02:05] <nvz> ew broadcom.. heh.. those bc43xx hybrid radios are the worst of em all.. heh.
[02:06] <FerchoLP> It worked perfect with kernel 2.6 and it still works ok with win7
[02:06] <dewcow> nvz: right? thats why i was AMAZED when it worked almost straight out of install
[02:06] <nvz> FerchoLP: check dmesg for more info, could be a calibration issue, happens a lot if there are many devices overlapping range with same channel
[02:07] <dewcow> FerchoLP: i too have sometimes had strange issues connecting to the wrt54g from some cards....erm..broadcom chipsets specifically.
[02:07] <nvz> dewcow: support has improved in the last few months for that.. but they're still aweful. heh glad my dying netbook here has atheros.. heh
[02:08] <dewcow> nvz: mmm atheros.
[02:08] <nvz> dewcow: wireless hackers delight.. heh
[02:10] <dewcow> nvz: i remember going through many 'cheap' cards at the store until i found some with atheros chipsets.
[02:10] <nvz> nobody ever seems to pay any attention to what channel their wifi is on, and around here anyhow the local public school dist is a digital school dist that provides everyone with computers, and wifi is just in general common these days.. most routers all use the same 3 channels.. makes a big difference if you have many routers all overlapping range with the same frequency.. many drivers have piss poor noise floor calibration routines
[02:10] <dewcow> nvz: always wished i could have had an orinoco gold
[02:11] <DrGamut> Anyone experienced this, every time my screen locks and the display is put to sleep, upon returning instead of seeing the lock screen with the password prompt I just see solid blocks of color where there were Windows active and the desktop background isn't present.
[02:12] <nvz> dewcow: I had the HawkingTechnology HWU8110UG I think it was.. 3-4inch satellite dish, usb.. had an Atheros AR5007 if I recall correctly.. it was great.. that company makes some decent cheap stuff, worth checking out their website
[02:12] <FerchoLP> mm, I've checked dmesg but couldn't figure out what was the problem in google. I don't have that router now in range and I'm trying to see the dmesg log from that day
[02:13] <nvz> dewcow: only cost me about $60 and best buy several years ago and worked great on linux.. just required the zydas firmware zd1211 package
[02:14] <dewcow> nvz: thanks for the info. i might just have to look around
[02:14] <nvz> dewcow: the range on that thing was insane.. I could hit all 3 APs at the WVU colleseum from almost 2mi away across the river
[02:14] <FerchoLP> but it's a place where are no more than 2 or 3 networks in range, and as I said, it worked fine before linux kernel update and still works ok booting in Win7
[02:14] <atkrad> d
[02:14] <nvz> dewcow: only downside to those kinda things is that you generally need to be within 30deg or so of right angle and have a clear line of sight for max distance
[02:15] <dewcow> nvz: christ thats impressive for a pre-built card
[02:15] <F2Knight> any one have experience with multiple NIC? Having an issue with routing
[02:15] <nvz> dewcow: had +8dbi gain and was extremely portable and convenient
[02:15] <bekks> !details | F2Knight
[02:16] <dewcow> nvz: a buddy and i used to build cantennas that had suprisingly good results. but also had a very narrow angle of range
[02:16] <F2Knight> I have a problem with multiple nic cards sharing the same default route. Need each card to route to its own gateway.
[02:16] <dewcow> nvz: was that a usb card? or pcmcia?
[02:17] <A|i3N> my audio doesn't seem to be working. It's on; it appears to be working, but I have no sound. i have no idea how to troubleshoot this.
[02:17] <bekks> F2Knight: You cannot have more than one default gateway. Everything else has to be done by setting host/net routes using specific interfaces.
[02:17] <t3gnick> Hey, I just installed Ubuntu 11.10 on a laptop, when I load onto my account the desktop does not load, I just get the blank background. But it loads when I change to Ubuntu 2D. What does Ubuntu 2D mean?
[02:18] <nvz> dewcow: it was a USB dish.. was about 3inches diameter and rotated 180deg and tilted up and down about 45deg was really nice for US$60 price range site is hawkingtechnology.com they have newer better ones out now..
[02:18] <F2Knight> bekks, Not looking to have more then one default gateway... looking for eth0 ro use one route, and eth1 to use a different route. eth0 should use the default route but eth1 needs to use a custom gateway
[02:19] <Emiru> whats the terminal command to restart unity dash ?
[02:19] <dewcow> nvz: question is if they support blackfriday right now. wouldn't that be nice.
[02:19] <bekks> F2Knight: You cannot have more than one gateway. You have to define host routes or net routes.
[02:19] <dewcow> nvz: ha, now if only i could call it an early christmas present to the girlfriend i could justify it.
[02:19] <F2Knight> bekks, net route is fine but I can not get the ip route / or route command right.
[02:19] <kurisu> hi my 11.04 does not show that there is a new dist (11.10).... any ideas???
[02:20] <kurisu> (in update-manager -d or in do-release-upgrade)
[02:20] <bekks> F2Knight: So whoch route command exactly did you use, and whoch error message did you get?
[02:20] <ikonia> kurisu: update-manager -d is not a good idea
[02:20] <kurisu> oh
[02:20] <ikonia> kurisu: that is for development versions, not stable
[02:21] <kurisu> oh right... didn't do anything anyway :-P
[02:21] <Emiru> anyone have to command to reset unity ??
[02:21] <kurisu> any ideas why its not showing the option to upgrade
[02:22] <ikonia> kurisu: was 11.04 a clean install ?
[02:22] <kurisu> or is it that 11.10 is still in development
[02:22] <ikonia> kurisu: 11.10 is released and stable
[02:22] <kurisu> oh right... yeah 11.04 was clean install
[02:22] <ikonia> !upgrade | kurisu
[02:22] <ikonia> kurisu: those instructions should work then
[02:22] <kurisu> ... getting fed up of crashes over the last couple of days so want to dist-upgrade
[02:23] <kurisu> ok thanks
[02:24] <F2Knight> bekks,  route add -net 10.0.0.0/8 gw 10.216.0.1 eth1, no errors., route table updated but can not remove the default one assigned by ubuntu
[02:24] <F2Knight> 10.0.0.0        10.216.0.1      255.0.0.0       UG    0      0        0 eth1
[02:24] <F2Knight> 10.0.0.0        0.0.0.0         255.0.0.0       U     0      0        0 eth1
[02:25] <nd456> can anyone help me setup my tv tuner card?
[02:25] <bekks> F2Knight: You dont have to remove the default gateway.
[02:25] <dewcow> nvz: you think they still put atheros in them?
[02:26] <F2Knight> bekks, okay but when i ping -I eth1 google.com it times out
[02:26] <FerchoLP> I've found the kernel log. I get a lot of " wlan0: deauthenticated from 00:1d:7e:e0:f4:3f (Reason: 15)". THe wifi connection works for about five minutes and then that error occurs. Immediately it connets again and works ok for a few minutes and so on. All this just with wrt45g router and since update to kernel 3
[02:27] <F2Knight> and I can not ping any other hosts on that lan...
[02:27] <dewcow> FerchoLP: do you have neighbors with wireless?
[02:27] <ikonia> F2Knight: sounds like you have 2 default gateways
[02:27] <FerchoLP> for example, the wifi card works perfectly with tp-link routers
[02:28] <F2Knight> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[02:28] <F2Knight> 255.255.255.255 0.0.0.0         255.255.255.255 UH    0      0        0 eth0
[02:28] <F2Knight> 216.242.158.0   0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
[02:28] <F2Knight> 10.0.0.0        10.216.0.1      255.0.0.0       UG    0      0        0 eth1
[02:28] <F2Knight> 10.0.0.0        0.0.0.0         255.0.0.0       U     0      0        0 eth1
[02:28] <FloodBot1> F2Knight: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:28] <F2Knight> 0.0.0.0         216.242.158.1   0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0
[02:28] <ikonia> F2Knight: that routing table will never work
[02:29] <dewcow> FerchoLP: try moveing the AP and the card to a different channel. sounds like you might just be experiencing interference from other networks
[02:29] <FerchoLP> There are only 2 or 3 networks in sight where that wrt45g is. And there are more than 35 where I am now, connected to a TP-LINK router
[02:29] <F2Knight> ikonia, well yea, i notice its not working.. Luckily I can get in over eth0 though
[02:29] <ikonia> F2Knight: you can't have 2 default routes active at the same time
[02:29] <FerchoLP> but could that affect only my card? because if I boot the machine on Win7, the wifi connection with the wrt45g router works well.
[02:29] <ikonia> F2Knight: you already have a route for 0.0.0.0 on eth0, so you can't bring one up on eth1 too
[02:29] <kurisu> ikonia: hmmm... followed that and it still does not give me the option
[02:30] <F2Knight> ikonia, there is only one default route there
[02:30] <kurisu> might try to dl and unetboot
[02:30] <FerchoLP> I mean, the router works ok with another SO and even my cell phone can connect to the router
[02:30] <ikonia> F2Knight: sorry, I thought you where trying to add one to eth1 too, I may have miss-read
[02:31] <F2Knight> ikonia, no each should have there own. and it 'look's right.. only I can not ping over eth1
[02:32] <kurisu> 11.04 has given me more problems than all the other dists combined... and I started using ubuntu in 2006 !!!
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[02:32] <ikonia> mikefmail: please don't advertise in this channel
[02:32] <mikefmail> Very sorry - I did not realise
[02:33] <ikonia> not a problem
[02:33] <mikefmail> Thanks
[02:33] <nvz> dewcow: well the one that replaced the HWU8DD I had, is the HWU9DD and it is said to have a RTL8188SU, the do have another model though and you can still find the HWU8DD which is technically a Zydas ZD1211RW chipset, but its essentially just a modified Atheros 5007UG and the firmware is available in the zd1211rw-firmware package for linux
[02:33] <genewitch> When i open my laptop lid and it resumes from suspend i get screen artifacting. I can stop it by typing dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/null
[02:33] <genewitch> to use CPU. is there another fix?
[02:33] <genewitch> Does not do this on unix and windows.
[02:34] <F2Knight> genewitch, sudo rm -rf /
[02:34] <ikonia> genewitch: do not do that
[02:34] <ikonia> genewitch: do NOT do that
[02:34] <yagoo> YA DONT DO WHAT F2KNight SAID
[02:35] <kurisu> WTF
[02:35]  * yagoo DANGEROUS NEVER DO THAT "RM *****" COMMAND
[02:35] <ikonia> kurisu: control your language please,
[02:36] <kurisu> ikonia: sorry... get annoyed when people try to screw other people over
[02:36] <genewitch> heh. I wasn't going to do that. But i searched and most of the solutions on the bug trackers say fixed with karmic, nvidia patch, intel this, but i have an ati xpress 200m and i only remember the "use some cpu to stop artifacting" solution
[02:36] <genewitch> even if i stop dd right now it goes back to really bad corruption and seizure inducing flashing
[02:36] <nvz> Idk if everyone agrees, but I think saying format c: is acceptable.. rm -rf / however is just so wrong though
[02:37] <ikonia> nvz: stop now
[02:37] <ilyekkakai> how do i remove a gnome panel applet form the list of applets?
[02:38] <genewitch> the downside to using the cpu is it drains my battery. catch-22. Should i open a new bug ticket?
[02:39] <ikonia> genewitch: the ati modules are closed and a known problem with suspend.
[02:39] <ikonia> genewitch: not much can really be done with them unless you talk to ati
[02:39] <genewitch> ikonia: it doesn't say restricted drivers in use though like it used to... should i go get and install the ATI drivers?
[02:39] <ikonia> genewitch: in my view, no
[02:40] <ikonia> genewitch: up to you though
[02:40] <genewitch> i wonder if i could write a perl script that used 2% of my cpu
[02:41] <kurisu> does anyone know if theres a known issue with 11.04 (64) and flash thats began over the last few days??
[02:41] <redline28> how do you watch netflix using ubuntu
[02:41] <yagoo> kurisu, actually i was checking out the latest flash.. there's a new one..
[02:41] <yagoo> (at least from the adobe site)
[02:41] <genewitch> redline28: virtual machine (kvm, virtualbox) with windows. netflix uses silverlight which is closed source and owned by microsoft.
[02:41] <kurisu> oh right
[02:42] <sunfish> Hi
[02:42] <genewitch> redline28: they won't change that because of licensing issues.
[02:42] <redline28> that sucks
[02:42] <nvz> ilyekkakai: you realize this will not result in enhanced security of any kind right? if you humor me on why and which applet I'll humor you on the how
[02:43] <yagoo> kurisu, (bleeding edge Adobe Flash Player 11.1.102.55)
[02:43] <redline28> does anyone know if an would a emulator work?
[02:43] <SudoMan> What kind?
[02:43] <kurisu> yagoo: .... getting really annoyed with mine, crashes my system (with an xorg Fatal server error: ... xf86OpenConsole: VT_WAITACTIVE failed: Interrupted system call error)
[02:43] <genewitch> redline28: like dolphin?
[02:44] <yagoo> kurisu, 64-bit ?
[02:44] <kurisu> yeah
[02:44] <kurisu> was fine until a few days ago
[02:44] <yagoo> kurisu, hmm..
[02:44] <redline28> SudoMan: not sure really
[02:44] <genewitch> does ubuntu-server have the pm modules?
[02:45] <jdtm> Hello, I am having some Wifi stability issues. On Ubuntu 11.10. I am using an HWUG1 wireless Usb adapter, connecting to a TL-WR541G wireless router. I am experiencing a packet loss of about 5%, Which is annoying in some online games. I also dual boot win 7, and it works perfectly fine there. Here is my iwconfig, if it helps: http://paste.ubuntu.com/749900/. Any help is appreciated.
[02:45] <SudoMan> Because there is several emulators for Linux like snes, DS, ps1, and ect.
[02:46] <yagoo> kurisu, did u try wiping out the flash cache? (you right-click and choose global settings.. try clearing out any stored entries-- btw.. it'll be a macromedia site you can clear your local setting)
[02:46] <nvz> oh well he left.. heh.. I was curious what someone aimed to achieve by disabling a panel applet .. had the answer too..
[02:46] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: even in windows it is suggested to game and stream meadia using a wired connection
[02:46] <yagoo> kurisu, if it says VT_WAITACTIVE.. it sounds more like a video driver issue
[02:47] <genewitch> redline28: literally the way i said is the only way. a wii emulator (the easiest) won't work because it doesn't emulate the wii shop channel which you need to "install" the netflix app.
[02:47] <yagoo> kurisu, if i were you i'd try 64-bit firefox&64bit flash..
[02:47] <redline28> SudoMan: I am new to linux
[02:47] <kurisu> I went into flash settings and cleared all local content... still had the same problem
[02:47] <yagoo> kurisu, , dunno how it is now as the deafult browser on 64bit ubuntu..
[02:47] <jdtm> well, its flawless in windows, so i assume its possible in ubuntu.
[02:47] <SudoMan> Why is there no opera for Ubuntu on there software center?
[02:47] <yagoo> kurisu, is it really 64-bit flash or 32-bit one you're using?
[02:47] <kurisu> hmm
[02:47] <jdtm> my connection i mean.
[02:48] <kurisu> was 32 I think... removed it now so I can actuall go on the net for a bit without my system hanging
[02:48] <kurisu> read that 64 is still beta
[02:48] <Artemis3> kurisu, just in case, i have 11.04 and 64 bit flash from now defunct sevenmachines, no problems
[02:48] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: did you have to do any specail installation of drivers for your wifi?
[02:49] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: as far as intalling it in ubuntu that is?
[02:49] <kurisu> Artemis3: oh right... hmmm
[02:49] <kurisu> >.<
[02:49] <jdtm> nope, rt73usb picked it right up
[02:49] <jdtm> and as far as i can tell, its the reccommended driver
[02:49] <SudoMan> I there a better browser that is like sea monkey. By this I mean is there one that has a irc chat program built into it.
[02:50] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: linux and windows use very different drivers... sometimes the drivers in linux are sub-par to the drivers in windows
[02:50] <kurisu> do you guys think it would be better to do a dist upgrade or try to sort out the issue in 11.04 first>?
[02:50] <genewitch> jdtm: what's the issue
[02:50] <yagoo> SudoMan, have you checked the firefox add-ons? firefox has like the most addons of any other browser..
[02:51] <yagoo> kurisu, you can try upgrade..but as i said it looks like a driver issue
[02:51] <pragmaticenigma> kurisu: jdtm is having throughput issues with packet loss
[02:51] <bluebomber> I'm having trouble setting up VNC/remote desktop in 11.10. I enabled it, but it keeps refusing connections from localhost and other hosts on my LAN. I also checked UPnP, but it didn't modify my router's settings at all. Can anyone give me a hand here?
[02:51] <Artemis3> kurisu, can you uninstall all your flash package, locate and remove all libflashplayer.so from your system, then download the 64 bit flash and put the libflashplayer.so inside ~/mozilla/plugins ?
[02:51] <jdtm> one thing ive tried is increasing the retry limit in iwconfig
[02:52] <yagoo> kurisu, what adobe flash are you using?
[02:52] <jdtm> and the packet loss goes down, but theres like times where the ping shoots up
[02:52] <pragmaticenigma> bluebomber: it's part of the default that you will not be able to connect to VNC with localhost, it's to avoid a loopback
[02:52] <yagoo> kurisu, what is the version # ?
[02:52] <Artemis3> kurisu, ~/.mozilla/plugins
[02:52] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: What you might be experiencing is Ubuntu being more sensitive to flucuations in the wireless signal than windows
[02:53] <jdtm> oh, i did not know this.
[02:53] <kurisu> it was the one from the default "click here to install flash" link that came up in ff
[02:53] <kurisu> ... a few weeks ago
[02:54] <yagoo> kurisu, remove that addon-- and try adding flash from your ubuntu package manager
[02:54] <kurisu> ... sorry, didn't notice the version, and it's gone now
[02:54] <yagoo> pff
[02:54] <jdtm> so theres nothing i can do about it then?
[02:54] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: not unless your very skilled at writting your own device drivers
[02:54] <kurisu> ok I'll try
[02:55]  * yagoo saw a 512 packet limit with dbus.. << perhaps look into commenting this out
[02:55] <kurisu> as in adove-flashplugin (11) ??
[02:55] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: As i mentioned earlier... anytime I try to stream video or play an online game i always use a hard connection to avoid problems with signal
[02:55] <yagoo> kurisu, there should be one called *installer
[02:55] <jdtm> if its any credit to the complaint, i also have another wifi card, not sure of the model, but it picks up the rt2800usb driver, and displays similar results.
[02:55] <yagoo> kurisu, apt-cache search flash |grep -i inst
[02:56] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: someone walking through the room is enough to distrupt your wireless signal
[02:56] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: I really strongly suggest when gaming to use ethernet, not wireless... nothing sucks more than a roommate (or parent) using the microwave causing you to get fragged in your favorite game
[02:57] <kurisu> ok I'll try... think it will just crash my system again though :-P
[02:57] <machiolate> where is system preferences, windows under ubuntu 11.10? i'm trying to change the mouse over window setting. I'm using the gnome 3 fallback shell
[02:57] <jdtm> but wouldnt the signal show that it goes down?
[02:57] <yagoo> kurisu, uhh.. you do check to see that it's the latest version..
[02:57] <jdtm> cause my signal is constant
[02:57] <yagoo> kurisu, then try to get that latest version if you get the crash..
[02:57] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: the signal meter is all code based... It's easy enough to fake that
[02:58] <kurisu> 11.1.102.55
[02:58] <machiolate> does the gnome 3 fallback shell not have a system preferences GUI?
[02:58] <kurisu> .... apt-get update; apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[02:58] <yagoo> kurisu, and do look at what the other things i told ya.. see if you're using 32-bit flash on a 64-bit firefox.. I dont have 64bit running on here..
[02:58] <jdtm> alright, fine. well, is there any other troubleshoot commands i could use besides iwconfig?
[02:59] <yagoo> kurisu, (if its a 32bit flash plugin on 64bit firefox.. you may want to try to do 64bit flash on 64bit firefox)
[02:59] <pragmaticenigma> you could try installing inSSIDer and see if that helps isolate where you issues might be
[03:00] <kurisu> ok sure, installed that new flashplugin.. how can I check for 32 / 64 in flash and ff?
[03:00] <yagoo> kurisu, about:plugins (url)
[03:00] <yagoo> kurisu, see if you're using the 32-bit ns support plugin layer..
[03:01] <jdtm> tyvm for the help
[03:02] <chrislabeard> when running $ sudo fsck /dev/sda1 its supposed to do something besides blink with the white box?
[03:02] <chrislabeard> or am I supposed to wait for it to finish
[03:03] <yagoo> kurisu, "file /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so" << this may not be the one you're using.. but can you tell me if this file exists?
[03:03] <yagoo> (file is a command, literally)
[03:03] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: np... sometimes a good ol' fashioned search on google with your wireless driver and ubuntu might turn up some results too
[03:03] <kurisu> /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, stripped
[03:04] <jdtm> trust me, ive been searching.
[03:04] <kurisu> so I guess not 64
[03:04] <yagoo> kurisu, hang on.
[03:04] <machiolate> how do I activate "mouse over active window" for Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[03:04] <kurisu> ok thanks
[03:05] <yagoo> kurisu, what does about:config say?  and what does ls -la /etc/alternatives/*flash*  say ?
[03:05] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: the keywords your looking for "high latency"
[03:05] <yagoo> kurisu, actually "about:plugins"..
[03:05] <jdtm> trust me, i have been.
[03:05] <yagoo> kurisu, you using iceweasal ?
[03:06] <jdtm> lol
[03:06] <kurisu> Shockwave Flash 11.1 r102
[03:06] <yagoo> kurisu, did you test with glxgears ? < you have acceleration on your graphics?
[03:06] <kurisu> no the default ff that comes with 11.04
[03:06] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: first hit I got was this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1794949.html <= have you seen that and tried any of the suggestions there?
[03:06] <yagoo> kurisu, so um.. is that firefox 64-bit or 32-bit ?
[03:07] <yagoo> kurisu, ps aux|grep -i <appname>  , then do "file <path to appbinary>   , should say if its 32-bit or 64-bit ELF
[03:08] <kurisu> 64-bit
[03:08] <yagoo> kurisu, so what you can do is simply apt remove the flash plugin.. then try the manual latest flash (64bit)..
[03:08] <pragmaticenigma> kurisu: Your trying to use 32bit flash player on 64 bit???
[03:09] <yagoo> kurisu, if firefox(64bit) refuses to load it.. then you should try to disable the 32bit-ns compat plugin..
[03:09] <jdtm> talking about driver conflicts? yes, this was one of the first things i stubled upon.
[03:09] <kurisu> and glxgears is ok btw
[03:09] <yagoo> kurisu, dunno if therte's a filter rule on *flash* plugin names with that 32bit ns compat plugin
[03:09] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: do you use wireless encryption on your network?
[03:09] <yagoo> kurisu,  that's good..
[03:09] <jdtm> wpa2
[03:09] <kurisu> ok I'll try that now thanks
[03:10] <jdtm> tried unprotected, and same conflicts
[03:10] <kurisu> can I just apt-get remove flashplugin-installer?
[03:10] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: Hrm... that might be the problem (not that an encrypted network is a bad thing, it's very good!) but I have always had bad luck with wifi, linux and encrypted networks
[03:10] <kurisu> or will that just remove the installer
[03:11] <jdtm> right, thats understandable.
[03:12] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: If you can... I'd try going a bit with the encryption off (lock down the AP to only allow your MAC address) and see if the problem goes away... something to mind is the encryption is often done on the wireless cards chip and it's not nearly as powerful as your CPU
[03:13] <jdtm> like i said, ive already tried that
[03:15] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: sorry, missed that
[03:15] <yagoo> kurisu, ya.. if not.. then see other packages-> dpkg -l |grep -i flash
[03:15] <vishwas> What is the difference between remastersys backup and dist
[03:17] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: I'm sure you will find a solution... I'm just out of ideas here... I use broadcom b43legacy... my biggest issue was WPA encryption... so I turned off all encryption and use a local VPN connection from my laptop to one of my desktops and tunnel everything through that
[03:17] <nonouns> #join dallasmakerspace
[03:17] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: * encrypted VPN *
[03:19] <jdtm> from what i can tell, some of the packets are getting delayed somewhere. because if i increase the retry limit, less packets are dropped, but the max ping is higher.
[03:19] <jdtm> but yea, i appreciate listenin to me :D
[03:21] <vishwas> What is the difference between remastersys backup and dist
[03:22] <pragmaticenigma> vishwas: you will need to be more specific... need a little more information about what you are asking
[03:23] <vishwas> What remastersys  command does?
[03:23] <pragmaticenigma> jdtm: I know the frustration... you have a good chipset with that wifi adapter, broadcom is a lot worse
[03:23] <pragmaticenigma> !remastersys
[03:23] <pragmaticenigma> guess the bots don't know
[03:24] <bazhang> vishwas, check the remastersys forum home page, thats not a supported package
[03:24] <bluebomber> pragmaticenigma, I still could not connect from any of the other hosts on my LAN either. (re my VNC setup issue)
[03:24]  * yagoo laughs-- he was installing alternatives yesterday with the old thinking that nautilus can't do dual pane
[03:24] <yagoo> goddamit.. what a waste of time hahahaha
[03:24] <yagoo> was there the whole time.. "Extra pane".. more like EXTRA PAIN!! lol
[03:25] <pragmaticenigma> bluebomber: I eventually install x11vnc on my rig to get VNC connections to my machine... it was faster and easier for me to get it up and running... downside is the machine has to be logged in locally to a session for it to work
[03:26] <yagoo>  pragmaticenigma , you use vnc? it's easier to use nomachine's nx..
[03:26] <yagoo> (but i dont think nomachine nx is updated for 11.10 just yet.. i can check)
[03:26] <jdtm> yea, i heard about broadcom being trouble, when i bought my card it has an external antenna, so i bought a beefy one so i was sure i'd have max connection :P
[03:28] <klync> is there a simple way to test whether a given pkg was installed by me or by the base system?
[03:28] <pragmaticenigma> yagoo: I had a friend try and set that up for me... I wasn't happy with the results
[03:29] <yagoo> pragmaticenigma, did you use nomachine's ? (dont use the distro's repo-- you have to download 3 free .debs from their site)
[03:29] <osmosis> what the heck, how do I access the menus in GIMP ?
[03:29] <pragmaticenigma> yagoo: I like to keep one session going whether I'm at the local machine or remotely connected...
[03:29] <klync> osmosis: right click
[03:29] <yagoo> pragmaticenigma, you can do that with nomachine's nx..
[03:29] <osmosis> klync, where is screen capture?
[03:29] <yagoo> nways..
[03:30] <yagoo> been using it for 3 years.. and i'm hooked.. i can do remote linux from win/mac/linux ..
[03:30] <klync> osmosis: i don't know the app inside out off the top of my head, but idunno ... ctrl-c?
[03:30] <pragmaticenigma> yagoo: For me... what I have works and does what I want it to... if it ain't broke, I ain't going to fix it
[03:31] <yagoo> pragmaticenigma, vnc is 100 times more difficult to setup nomachine nx.. that's why i mention it to anyone..
[03:31] <pragmaticenigma> osmosis: When you ask, are you trying to capture a video, or a single snapshot
[03:32] <pragmaticenigma> yagoo: That's why I use x11vnc package... simple execution from bash and it runs on it's own... just a few arguments to match my preferences
[03:33] <newegggg> i disabled root login via ssh, so i log in as a user... but after i 'su root' and become root, i can't run anything
[03:33] <newegggg> iptables returns 'command not found'
[03:33] <newegggg> any ideas?
[03:34] <yagoo> pragmaticenigma, well you don't HAVE to try it. But i really think you're not getting the best remote out there.. and nx IS :) just my story :)
[03:34] <yagoo> newegggg, try su -l or su -
[03:35] <newegggg> u mean when i try to become root?
[03:35] <yagoo> newegggg, yah..
[03:35] <yagoo> newegggg, that sets up $PATH correctly for root
[03:35] <newegggg> omg it worked
[03:35] <newegggg> the -l
[03:35] <newegggg> what does the -l mean
[03:35] <pragmaticenigma> yagoo: does NX allow me to use a standard VNC client to connect in?
[03:35] <yagoo> pragmaticenigma, ya
[03:35] <newegggg> thanks
[03:36] <yagoo> pragmaticenigma,  it supports multi-proc session types (but i said earlier i dont know if 11.10 is supported yet)
[03:36] <yagoo> pragmaticenigma, it's pretty much apt-get install ssh, then dpkg -i <those three debs *.deb>
[03:36] <pragmaticenigma> K... I will check into it again... last time experience was less than steller (it's how I found x11vnc) and I was running OpenSUSE at the time
[03:36] <the_3f_rule> Hi guys.  Hopefully my question hasn't been answered 50 times tonight already
[03:37] <yagoo> pragmaticenigma, you have to look into it's advanced options, and if you want to do concurrent logons, you might have to type 1 command to allow that user to do it
[03:37] <pragmaticenigma> yagoo: right now I'm trying to figure out how to get my OpenVPN to tunnel again... sadly until that's running I'm SOL anyways
[03:37] <yagoo> (the advanced options is available graphically with nxclient)
[03:38] <pragmaticenigma> since I only allow remote access to my local network via my VPN connection (especially Remote Desktop)
[03:38] <yagoo> pragmaticenigma, nx works as a subsystem under ssh.. that's why it's basically no setup.. but someone told me for a corporate environment.. they don't like it because of something to do with the authentication method it uses..
[03:39] <yagoo> (i mean ssh is ok-- but there's an impersonating user when issuing nx authentication)(for personal use i have no problem.. )
[03:39] <yagoo> kurisu, does flash 64-bit work?
[03:40] <yagoo> oh golly.. dam it.. wish i knew sooner nautilus supported dual pane now hehehe
[03:40] <yagoo> was using these dam alternatives..
[03:40] <pragmaticenigma> Anyone familiar with openvpn setups and getting the connection to bridge to the gateway to tunnel internet access
[03:41] <lynx7os5> hello, anyone know what happened to the karmic repository, or where its located by chance? and is it safe to change from karmics to lucid repos? (sources.list)
[03:41] <the_3f_rule> Hopefully someone can aswer it though.  I am brand new to linux.  Trying to install 11.10 on an 3 or 4 year old acer penguin 2.  I burned an install cd but keep getting an error 5 and the install crashes.  Not much concrete help to be found on the web, at least that I can find.  Anyone know how to get around this?  It runs fine off the install cd.
[03:41] <yagoo> pragmaticenigma, you should check your gateway (if its  a box-- they sometimes have filters on VPN traffic)
[03:41] <the_3f_rule> That's a pentium not a penguin
[03:42] <pragmaticenigma> I've had it working in the past... I lose the setup with each upgrade to ubuntu (which I'm getting really tired of) because the network configuration files have to be modified manually each time... and each new upgrade has some new twist
[03:42] <yagoo> the_3f_rule, try freedos.. i heard that way back for 1993-1995 computers dos works well.. Pentium I you say? good luck..
[03:42]  * yagoo laughs at the Penguin kid
[03:43] <lynx7os5> i was doing a fresh install on another comp but cant update it for some reason.. (ubuntu server karmic)
[03:43] <klync> the_3f_rule: i don't know what error 5 means, but one thing i might check is the bios' "reconfigure ecsd data" before running the installer
[03:43] <pragmaticenigma> used to be that I could just set a flag to forward all IP traffic... then it had to be explicately set the IPv4 traffic...
[03:43] <yagoo> pragmaticenigma, what box router model is it?
[03:44] <the_3f_rule> The error 5 basically is telling me that there is something wrong with the media or the media drive.  Its apparently a fairly common error, but no real fixes.
[03:44] <pragmaticenigma> yagoo: All traffic from my 10.8.0.x subnet is setup on the router to route through10.0.2.x
[03:44] <klync> the_3f_rule: oh, did you test the checksum before you burned the image, and got no error during write?
[03:44] <yagoo> pragmaticenigma, and that router is running linux with a WAN interface?
[03:44] <pragmaticenigma> yagoo: the router is already been configured, I lost the setup when I upgraded Ubuntu from 11.04 to 11.10
[03:44] <klync> the_3f_rule: can you boot from a rescue cd, such as knoppix or grml?
[03:45] <yagoo> pragmaticenigma, you're talking unclearly.. what is the router?
[03:45] <the_3f_rule> Yes, it runs just fine from the boot cd.  No errors during the burn
[03:45] <the_3f_rule> Just get the error when I try to install.
[03:45] <pragmaticenigma> The router has already been configured to work, I know it is setup correctly because everything was working prior to upgrading from ubuntu 11.04 to 11.10
[03:45] <klync> the_3f_rule: when you're booted from the live cd, have you looked at dmesg, esp. after trying to read from the hard disk?
[03:46] <docmur> I have a new 42" LCD screen and I'm trying to get my ATI 5830 to output to this new TV, I have the HDMI connection going into a HDMI spitter which I think might be my issues and then going to the TV.  ATI's control panel can see the TV and it tell me it's in use but the TV doesn't read any single, I get the same thing in windows
[03:46] <the_3f_rule> And the computer is only a couple of years old, it has a 160 gig hd.  I misspoke when said pentium
[03:46] <pragmaticenigma> docmur: Remove the splitter
[03:46] <docmur> any idea
[03:46] <docmur> I want to but I don't have a cable long enough
[03:46] <docmur> It's not even close
[03:47] <the_3f_rule> Klync, I have not.  I am kind of an amateur when it comes to bios.  Can you explain?  Sorry
[03:47] <vernonjvs> Hello. It seems that the karmic dist files no longer exist on the ubuntu sever. Does ubuntu archive them someplace else?
[03:47] <docmur> I'm pretty sure thats the issue
[03:47] <pragmaticenigma> docmur: The issue is your signal is degrading through the splitter and the length of the cable
[03:47]  * yagoo thinks the_3f_rule is trolling. Pentium computers are no longer made for over ten years
[03:47] <yagoo> pff
[03:47] <docmur> just checking with everyone
[03:48] <pragmaticenigma> yagoo: Pentiums are still produced... in fact I just read an article about a new server line of Pentiums Intel is coming out with next year
[03:48] <the_3f_rule> Like I said, I misspoke.  Sorry.  Im an old guy
[03:48] <klync> the_3f_rule: well, i have never heard of this "error 5", but i don't see any reason you couldn't run the installer, so i'm just going from first principles here. i'd try doing 'reset escd' if you haven't, and also running the command `dmesg` from a shell off whatever linux os i could get to run on it
[03:48] <the_3f_rule> Not trolling though, just bummed I cant get it to work.  It came installed with vista, which I hate
[03:49] <pragmaticenigma> the_3f_rule: Do you have Hyper Threading enabled in the BIOS?
[03:49] <the_3f_rule> Ok.  I will try that klync.  Thank you
[03:49] <dfs> 有人吗？可以看到我吗？
[03:49] <klync> the_3f_rule: pragmaticenigma's question is also a good one
[03:49] <the_3f_rule> Prag, im not sure but I will look.  What is it
[03:50] <bazhang> !cn | dfs
[03:50] <pragmaticenigma> the_3f_rule: It's a way to allow one CPU act like two, when I upgraded to 11.10 I had to shut it off, otherwise my machine would hang during boot... never saw that error code
[03:50] <the_3f_rule> Ah ok.
[03:50] <dfs> 我怎么又跑这来了。。。。
[03:50] <the_3f_rule> Did you guys install ubuntu by itself or in parallel with windows
[03:50] <the_3f_rule> On a partition
[03:51] <pragmaticenigma> I have dual boot partitions in my setup
[03:51] <bazhang> dfs /join #ubuntu-cn
[03:51] <yagoo> the_3f_rule, parallels ? you sound like you're on a mac
[03:51] <yagoo> lol
[03:51] <pragmaticenigma> bazhang: he may not be Chinese
[03:51] <yagoo> the_3f_rule, be careful.. "Parallels" is a virtual solution for macs..
[03:51] <the_3f_rule> I don't speak computer very well sorry
[03:51] <dfs> pragmaticenigma: 你在说我吗？
[03:51] <yagoo> lol
[03:51] <bazhang> pragmaticenigma, sure, that's Mandarin
[03:51] <pragmaticenigma> yagoo: he didn't say parallels, he said the singular form
[03:52] <klync> the_3f_rule: i don't like dual-booting; i'm playing civ4 right now on xp inside a vmware session
[03:52] <bazhang> dfs english here, Chinese in #ubuntu-cn
[03:52] <pragmaticenigma> but the term, the_3f_rule, is called dual booting since you can't run two OS's at the same time
[03:53] <dfs> bazhang: OK
[03:53] <the_3f_rule> If im installing It by itself, I still need to have hyper threading off?
[03:53] <pragmaticenigma> yes
[03:53] <vernonjvs> does anyone know why the karmic distribution file are no longer on the ubuntu servers.? Thanks
[03:53] <pragmaticenigma> karmic is no longer supported
[03:53]  * yagoo is happy he got his new nfs share mountpoint working under 2 minutes :)
[03:53] <bazhang> !eol | vernonjvs
[03:54] <yagoo> yeah !!! nfs baby!
[03:54] <jerenept> ?
[03:54] <bazhang> vernonjvs, check the eolupgrades link
[03:54] <the_3f_rule> Thanks guys.  I appreciate it.  Sorry for the kindergarten level terminology
[03:55] <dfs> help
[03:55] <pragmaticenigma> the_3f_rule: we all have to start somewhere... no harm no foul
[03:55] <pragmaticenigma> dfs: !ask
[03:55] <bazhang> dfs with what
[03:55] <dfs> \help
[03:55] <yagoo> ok
[03:55] <the_3f_rule> I will try it and report back
[03:55] <newegggg> is it ok to delete the contents of secure in /var
[03:55] <dfs> !aks
[03:55] <the_3f_rule> One more question
[03:55] <yagoo> this thing called bashee is hiding in the background...
[03:55] <yagoo> nothing in systray and plays music..
[03:55] <newegggg> its auto made like secure1 secure2
[03:55] <pragmaticenigma> newegggg: what are you trying to delete specifically
[03:55] <newegggg> just the entire contents, select all, delete
[03:56] <newegggg> too many break in attempts over ssh to see anything useful
[03:56] <pragmaticenigma> not a good idea...
[03:56] <dfs> join #ubuntu-cn
[03:56] <yagoo> "bash /usr/bin/banshee"  << this is in my process list-- I opened a file to play from nautilus.. weird it says "bash"..
[03:56]  * yagoo thinks dfs is trolling.
[03:56] <pragmaticenigma> yagoo: prolly a forked process launched from bash
[03:56] <yagoo> pragmaticenigma, i opened it from nautilus (opened a file from a read-only nfs share)
[03:57] <yagoo> (opened a music file)
[03:57] <pragmaticenigma> I understand that... what I'm saying is the media player setup might require a bash script play the file in the background... and it's setup to use a bash script to do so
[03:58] <newegggg> whats a good alternative port for ssh?
[03:58] <arooni-mobile> what does ubuntu rename the httpd binary to?
[03:58] <newegggg> i guess that'll cut down on the spam
[03:58] <dfs> yagoo: what does trolling mean ?
[03:58] <pragmaticenigma> arooni-mobile: to differeniate it from the old apache 1.x
[03:58] <vernonjvs> I understand that I won't get any updates for karmic. But I am surprised that the karrnic files from the repositories. Plus this appeared to just happened today. Whats the point of removing the distribution files?
[03:58] <ResQue> could some please help break this down for me printf "%020x"
[03:58] <pragmaticenigma> dfs... trolling is when a person isn't contributing anything useful to the chat room
[03:58] <the_3f_rule> After the install failed I tried to build a bootable USB but now that I've removed the windows OS not sure how to make one since the install files are .exe
[03:59] <ResQue> what does the % and the 0 mean, why the x
[03:59] <pragmaticenigma> vernonjvs: they need the space for other things
[04:00] <pragmaticenigma> the_3f_rule: if you haven't modified the USB key since your last attempt it should still be able to install from
[04:00] <yagoo> ResQue, %20 is the space character (i believe it's the hex value) .. see asciitable.com
[04:01] <dfs> pragmaticenigma: but i cannot find it from my dictionary...
[04:01] <pragmaticenigma> ResQue: it's a code to allow a space to be used in the address bar of your web browser
[04:01] <ResQue> yagoo: hello again, i thought it might be hex, but the command prints 20 '0' and the man page for printf is no help at all
[04:01] <pragmaticenigma> dfs, it's a slang term, it will not be in your dictionary
[04:01] <yagoo> ResQue, it's the hex value for space
[04:01] <the_3f_rule> I screwed up and didn't try to make the USB until after the install failed.  The only other computer I have is a mac.  Easiest just to go find a pc somewhere and make the USB?
[04:01] <ResQue> yagoo: thanks, any idea why it prints 0s if i run it on the command line?
[04:01] <yagoo> Resistance, you're probably using it wrong. maybe it's %0x20 .. or something like that..
[04:02] <yagoo> ResQue, i meant
[04:02] <pragmaticenigma> the_3f_rule: easier to burn the install image to a CD and use that
[04:02] <yagoo> ResQue, that's a programming question.. you have to use the right "type" when associating the reference variable..
[04:02] <the_3f_rule> Right-but that's not working, error 5
[04:03] <pragmaticenigma> the_3f_rule: it might once you have diable the hyperthreading
[04:03] <the_3f_rule> I figured the USB might work better.  Waste of time?
[04:03] <pragmaticenigma> USB and CD use the exact same installation image and programs to install
[04:03] <yagoo> the_3f_rule, you don't know what computer you have.. how do you even know you downloaded the RIGHT iso?
[04:03] <yagoo> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ?
[04:03] <the_3f_rule> Trying to get all he dumb questions out of the way at once
[04:03] <pragmaticenigma> yagoo: be nice
[04:03] <ResQue> yagoo: your right, i think its best to ask in c or c++ room for syntax related questions
[04:04] <pragmaticenigma> ResQue: good idea
[04:04] <the_3f_rule> Good point.  Runs off the bootable cd though yagoo.  So ?
[04:05] <pragmaticenigma> the_3f_rule: I would try the CD again, once you have made the changes in BIOS... best to take things one small step at a time... so you can retrace your steps later and determine what might have gone wrong
[04:05] <yagoo> the_3f_rule, how do i know you downloaded the 64-bit iso.. grub would be able to boot on 32-bit architecture.. and then choke after
[04:06] <the_3f_rule> I downloaded the 32.
[04:06] <the_3f_rule> Google told me to
[04:07] <geoffmcc> the_3f_rule: im sure if usb install was an option for you probably would have tried it, but have you considered the minimal install cd to install over network
[04:08] <the_3f_rule> Nope! But I will write that down in case the other stuff fails
[04:08] <pragmaticenigma> whoa, everyone... the_3f_rule really needs to start with what he has... Yes he may have the wrong install image... but he needs to make some bios changes before we really can help further
[04:08] <yagoo> the_3f_rule, talk to the penguin.. after all you said you use a "Penguin" computer. You're not serious about anything. GOOD LUCK TO YOU.
[04:08] <the_3f_rule> Should I have downloaded the 64 bit?
[04:08] <dfs> ok ,, I think I am trolling ,too...
[04:08] <pragmaticenigma> No, the_3f_rule you should not have
[04:09] <the_3f_rule> Thanks for the help yahoo.  For me it's a tool not a hobby
[04:09] <the_3f_rule> Ok prag.  Thanks
[04:09] <monstaRtruck> anyone have issues installing nvidia gtx cards
[04:09] <monstaRtruck> it says driver is activated but not in use
[04:09] <RossDoughty> Hey all.
[04:09] <pragmaticenigma> the_3f_rule: i386 images are what you need to stick to
[04:10] <RossDoughty> ?
[04:10] <almoxarife> monstaRtruck: I see the same, but mine is in use
[04:10] <pragmaticenigma> monstaRtruck: do you have a machine that allows you to switch between two different graphics card?
[04:10] <monstaRtruck> wat u mean?
[04:11] <pragmaticenigma> monstaRtruck: Please use plain english
[04:11] <monstaRtruck> shut up man
[04:12] <monstaRtruck> thx for u help ahole
[04:12] <pangolin> !guidelines > monstaRtruck
[04:12] <RossDoughty> monstaRtruck - Don't be rude man.
[04:12] <monstaRtruck> here let me help u bastard
[04:12] <pragmaticenigma> monstaRtruck: If you wish to get help, you need to use words that other people will understand... not everyone here speaks english as their primary language
[04:12] <pragmaticenigma> a little late pangolin
[04:13] <vernonjvs> I would think that disk space is cheap enough. I guess I will have to upgrade when I need a package I don't have on my system. Looks like Slackware keeps their distribution files around for 9 years an least. Looks like Fedora keeps their packages around for three years or more. Something to think about when I need to upgrade.
[04:14] <pragmaticenigma> vernonjvs: Why keeps something around if your not going to support it? To the unknowning, they might install it, wonder why it doesn't work and then keep asking about it... safer to remove it and encourage usage of versions that are supported
[04:15] <_Neytiri_> is there a way to upgrade a running system from 10.4 to 10.10?
[04:16] <the_3f_rule> Ah ha.  I meant celeron
[04:16] <pragmaticenigma> _Neytiri_: No, I wouldn't recommend using 10.10
[04:16] <_Neytiri_> why
[04:16] <_Neytiri_> and 10.4 doesent have support for waht i need it to have support for
[04:16] <pragmaticenigma> _Neytiri_: It's soon to be unsupported
[04:17] <_Neytiri_> figures
[04:17] <pragmaticenigma> _Neytiri_: The latest version is 11.10 which was released in October
[04:17] <dewcow> but i liked the name of 10.10  better X(
[04:17] <_Neytiri_> 11.10 is unstable on my system tried it a few weeks ago
[04:17] <pragmaticenigma> !ot | dewcow
[04:18] <vernonjvs> The point is for users that already have karmic installed, why force them to upgrade when they just need a package from the old archive. For example, I just recently installed Sunbird for the first time. Glad I did it before they removed all the karmic files today. Otherwise I would have been forced to upgrade.
[04:18] <pragmaticenigma> _Neytiri_: perhaps we can help with that?
[04:18] <pragmaticenigma> vernonjvs: because security patches will no longer be applied... it's half the reason viruses get the foot hold they do on computers... people hanging on to old, insecure software for fear of what is new, updated and secured better
[04:19] <binni> I have a fat32 image file (image.img) and I need to resize it, or more specifically enlarge it by 40mb, is there any simple way to do that? is it possible to open it in gparted?
[04:19] <dewcow> it seemed like 11.10 didn't run as well on my system after the update
[04:19] <pragmaticenigma> vernonjvs: There are several sever kernal vulnerabilities with 9.10, I wouldn't keep running it personally
[04:20] <pragmaticenigma> dewcow: 11.10 didn't run at all for me on my system until I disabled hyperthreading on my CPU... all my other machines haven't had any issues
[04:21]  * pragmaticenigma I must confess I run Xubuntu, which I find to be a little more stable
[04:21] <the_3f_rule> Prag, hate to do this to you.  I assumed hyper threading was in the setup menu.  Any way to turn it off not using windows?
[04:22] <pragmaticenigma> the_3f_rule: far as I know, there is no hyperthreading with a Celeron processor... so you will not find a setting anywhere
[04:22] <_Neytiri_> the_3f_rule,  bios
[04:23] <pragmaticenigma> the_3f_rule: scratch that... celerons may have hyperthreading... the only way to turn it off is through the bios
[04:23] <vernonjvs> The bottom line is that Linux is about freedom. Upgrading should be my choice and not forced. My setup works and has no viruses. Can you assure me that upgrading will not cause me problems?
[04:23] <mmv> vernonjvs: no one can assure you that
[04:23] <pragmaticenigma> the_3f_rule: while the computer is booting you will have to hit something like the "del", "f2", or other key combo to get in the BIOS... you may need to check the manual
[04:23] <mmv> vernonjvs: if you need that kind of assurance, you have a QA environment
[04:24] <the_3f_rule> Yep, im there.  Dont see hyper threading though
[04:24] <mmv> vernonjvs: i can assure you that by never upgrading, you will be riddled with security holes ;)
[04:24] <pragmaticenigma> vernonjvs: Your right it is about choice... however, spend anytime doing tech support for a college campus and you will soon learn the reasons upgrading is a good idea... despite some risks
[04:24] <the_3f_rule> I imagine it would be under Main
[04:25] <gurlyy> hi
[04:25] <gurlyy> hey
[04:25] <pragmaticenigma> vernonjvs: there are very few viruses out there at all... most attacks are to compromise the system and allow the attacker control to anything they want with your computer
[04:26] <gurlyy> hey
[04:26] <pragmaticenigma> the_3f_rule: you really need to consult the manual when making changes to your Buis
[04:26] <bazhang> gurlyy, ubuntu support question?
[04:26] <the_3f_rule> Looking now
[04:27] <gurlyy> hey pm me bazhang
[04:27] <pragmaticenigma> !pm | gurlyy
[04:27] <bazhang> gurlyy, no ask your ubuntu question here
[04:27] <gurlyy> what is anal??
[04:27] <pragmaticenigma> TROLL!
[04:27] <Chascon> does ubuntu come with basic tiling via Gnome? My number pad is inadvertently positioning my windows, and the grid plugin is off.
[04:28] <vernonjvs> Well, then why force an upgrade by deleting repositories? BTW, all systems have security holes. I have Linus systems running since 1995 without any viruses (Slackware 2.0 on a 486).
[04:28] <pragmaticenigma> vernonjvs: I just got done saying... it's not viruses you have to worry about... it's someone else taking control of your system
[04:29] <pragmaticenigma> vernonjvs: I think if you want to continue the conversation... it's best to take it to the offtopic room
[04:29] <vernonjvs> ok thanks bye.
[04:31] <dotblank> hmm, I can't tell if I have gotten better at using linux or I have just gotten used to compiling everything
[04:34] <roasted> hi
[04:35] <pragmaticenigma> hello roasted
[04:37] <alexanderliu> how could i type my language in Ubuntu?????
[04:37] <alexanderliu> anybody helps?
[04:38] <r|ck> hi, i just performed a dist upgrade of my ubuntu
[04:38] <yagoo> alexanderliu, show a bit of um consideration here.. you asking a programming question or a human speaking tongue quetsion?
[04:38] <r|ck> and once it completed and attempted to boot up, its stalls at the bootup
[04:38] <lefty_> umm.. I need some help
[04:38] <r|ck> "Starting configure network device security"
[04:38] <r|ck> thats where it is at now
[04:39] <pragmaticenigma> !ask | lefty_
[04:39] <r|ck> i have gone to the diff rc levels and event /etc/default and already disabled at least 20 different stuff
[04:39] <r|ck> kinda tired of doing that
[04:39] <r|ck> wondering if is there a way of fixing it and perhaps why im getting that
[04:40] <pragmaticenigma> r|ck: does your system hang if you boot from a live cd of the same version?
[04:41] <the_3f_rule> Ok.  No hyperthreading
[04:41] <r|ck> i have not downloaded a live cd of that same version
[04:41] <lefty_> Well there is this weird issue that happens. I download and install Ubuntu straight onto my computer it seems to install just fine.. on the 1st boot it's fine.. but then when I turn off and try booting back into Ubuntu I get stuck on a Purple Screen and I see the Caps Lock blinking
[04:41] <lefty_> does anyone know what the issue could be?
[04:41] <r|ck> i can try to download it
[04:42] <pragmaticenigma> r|ck: I would try the Liive CD to see if it also hangs at the same point... How did you install your system if not from a Live CD?
[04:42] <r|ck> pragmaticenigma, i had a previous version installed and it prompted to do a distribution upgrade
[04:42] <pragmaticenigma> lefty_: That's an indication of a kernel panic... after you install are you installing a bunch of software?
[04:43] <lefty_> pragmaticenigma: no just android sdk and chromium browser
[04:43] <pragmaticenigma> r|ck: I see... it's possible that your previous installation had some custom configuration that the upgrade didn't carry over?
[04:44] <r|ck> pragmaticenigma, yeah, that could be a possibility
[04:44] <pragmaticenigma> lefty_: Try installing just the OS, and not everything else... and then one by one install new software programs until the issue happens again
[04:44] <cicero_> boa noite
[04:44] <lefty_> pragmaticenigma: but the weird thing is this happened 3 times
[04:45] <pragmaticenigma> r|ck: I usually download the Live CD before doing the upgrade just to make sure it will run
[04:45] <pragmaticenigma> lefty_: It's possible something with the Android SDK might be the culprit
[04:45] <lefty_> pragmaticenigma: once without installing anything just a simple reboot 2nd time after chromium and sdk and 3rd chromium and sdk
[04:45] <alexanderliu> install my input method??????anybodyhelp?ăîăîăîăî
[04:45] <r|ck> pragmaticenigma, ouhh.. ic. i guess next time i shall do that
[04:46] <r|ck> pragmaticenigma, downloading the iso now and will take another 30 mins to download
[04:46] <pragmaticenigma> alexanderliu: We are having a difficult time understanding your question... if english is not your primary language there may be a chat room better suited to help you
[04:46] <pragmaticenigma> r|ck: okay, I have to head off shortly... but I'm sure others here can continue to help you
[04:47] <r|ck> pragmaticenigma, orite. sure
[04:47] <r|ck> pragmaticenigma, thanks for ur help. :)
[04:47] <the_3f_rule> Prag thanks again.  Since no hyper thread option, what the next thing to check
[04:47] <K`zan> Silly question, the proprietary nvidia drivers got installed when I built this system but I haven't seen any updates for it?!?  Does one need to uninstall the current and add it again to get updated drivers?  TMIA!
[04:48] <pragmaticenigma> the_3f_rule: I'm really not sure... you might need to find a friend to invite over and help you out...  You might a have a local linux user group in your town that could also possibly help you out
[04:49] <the_3f_rule> That's a thought.  Thanks again, I will keep plugging away at it and report back
[04:50] <pragmaticenigma> K`zan: if you installed the propretary drivers from the Ubuntu repos, it isn't always going to be the latest version, but as long as your displays are working, I wouldn't worry about having the latest edition
[04:50] <evanescent> After upgrading to 11.10 my windows keep losing their borders. unity --replace fixes it temporarily until it happens again, but this is very frustrating. does anyone have any ideas?
[04:50] <pragmaticenigma> K`zan: most of the time the newest versions are just updates for the newest cards released on the market, rarely is there anything new for exisiting cards
[04:51] <K`zan> pragmaticenigma: Thanks, new release of X-Plane out and it is a bit slow, thought I'd check.  THanks again.
[04:51] <linda> exit
[04:51] <lefty_> pragmaticenigma: did you caatch what i last said?
[04:51] <almoxarife> K`zan: what version are you at?
[04:51]  * lefty_ says not trying to be pushy
[04:52] <K`zan> almoxarife: Lemme check, been quite a while, plse standby...
[04:52] <pragmaticenigma> lefty_: I'm really not sure why your machine would just stop booting like that... If it were me, I wouldn't install the android SDK... if you really need it... might considering installing a virtual machine to run it
[04:53] <K`zan> almoxarife: 260.19.06
[04:53] <yagoo> i have a little pathetic irritance.. i'm new to using gnome3's "restrictions" -- there any helper application tools/packages so i can rt-click the systemtray-- I'd like to change spacing between icon elements
[04:53] <lefty_> pragmaticenigma: but i said it happened once without me installing anything at all.
[04:53] <almoxarife> K`zan: you are not using nvidia-current?
[04:53] <pragmaticenigma> lefty_: have you run the memory tester? how old is the machine your installing to?
[04:54] <isbacon> anyone else having ubuntu freeze on startup?
[04:54] <K`zan> almoxarife: Not as far as I know.
[04:54] <almoxarife> K`zan: I believe current is at 290.xxx
[04:54] <lefty_> pragmaticenigma: this computer is about 6 months old and nope no memory tester
[04:55] <K`zan> almoxarife: :-), I said it had been a while.  Just install the "nvidia-current"?
[04:55] <Untitled_only> sup room
[04:55] <yagoo> brb
[04:55] <pragmaticenigma> memory tester is available on the live disks (hit space bar to see options when you see the little keyboard icon at startup)
[04:55] <almoxarife> K`zan: I don't want to be the one tell you that, I don't know what will change on your machine
[04:55] <K`zan> almoxarife: I do have it already installed, but it shows 260...
[04:55] <pragmaticenigma> lefty_: is your system a custom build or prefab?
[04:56] <almoxarife> K`zan: let things be, better running than broke
[04:56] <K`zan> almoxarife: There is indeed that :).
[04:56] <K`zan> almoxarife: Thanks!
[04:56] <pragmaticenigma> always good advice almoxarife
[04:57] <lefty_> pragmaticenigma: I need some more details by what you mean.. I am 14 after all..
[04:57] <K`zan> pragmaticenigma: almoxarife:  Leaving well enough alone now :-)!!
[04:57] <pragmaticenigma> lefty_: custom build means you bought all the parts and built the computer yourself... prefab means you went to a store and bought an already built computer (like Dell, HP, Compaq)
[04:58] <lefty_> pragmaticenigma: then prefab lol
[04:58] <aeon-ltd> it's funny they call it build when really it's assembly that's done
[04:59] <hintss> anyone else having ubuntu freeze all the time?
[04:59] <pragmaticenigma> well prefab homes are also built assembly style but they still call it a build
[04:59] <pragmaticenigma> lefty_: Can you tell us the model of your computer?
[04:59] <almoxarife> hintss: freezes sound like ram issues
[04:59] <aeon-ltd> hintss: no that's not normal
[05:01] <almoxarife> hintss: I would verify the ram is ok first, no sense in wasting your time on trouble shooting
[05:02] <jeff2365> I am running 10.04 and it completely freezes occasionally
[05:02] <lefty_> pragmaticenigma: Satellite L745
[05:03] <pragmaticenigma> jeff2365: what is occassionally?  Like I'm trying to watch a video and it freezes... or I run the machine and I come back a few hours later and it's always locked up
[05:04] <pragmaticenigma> lefty_: you installed Ubuntu 11.10?
[05:04] <lefty_> pragmaticenigma: yes.
[05:04] <jeff2365> maybe once or twice a day, and I don't think it has frozen when I've been away from it
[05:04] <pragmaticenigma> lefty_: when you shut down, are you using the shutdown command or Hibernate/Stand-By?
[05:05] <pragmaticenigma> jeff2365: what are you usually doing when the machine locks up?
[05:05] <lefty_> pragmaticenigma: shut down command
[05:06] <jeff2365> sometimes programming, sometimes browsing the web, last time it was when I tried to open a link from XChat
[05:06] <pragmaticenigma> jeff2365: how old is your machine?
[05:06] <evanescent> check the system logs and look around the time the system crashed
[05:07] <evanescent> see if you see a consistent error message
[05:07] <jeff2365> the motherboard, ram, and cpu are a couple months old, hard drives are 4 years, power supply and graphics card somewhere in the middle
[05:07] <pragmaticenigma> jeff2365: what type of drives do you have?
[05:08] <jeff2365> 2 320GB drives, which information specifically?
[05:08] <pragmaticenigma> lefty_: This might be worth a shot... but you might want to try install 11.04 or 10.04... see if the same issue happens with those
[05:09] <pragmaticenigma> jeff2365: are they SATA or PATA, solid state versus magnetic
[05:09] <jeff2365> PATA
[05:09] <jeff2365> er
[05:10] <jeff2365> Model ATA ST3320820AS, im thinking PATA magnetic
[05:10] <evanescent> note the next time your computer crashes and check /var/log/syslog for any conspicuous error messages. do this a couple times and see if you note the same or similar errors each time
[05:10] <lefty_> pragmaticenigma: i was actually on 11.4 before i updated and it didn't happen
[05:11] <pragmaticenigma> lefty_: When your finished installing have you installed all the available updates?
[05:11] <jeff2365> I had taken a look at the logs but was unable to find anything before the messages logged when turning it on, I'll take another look when it freezes again
[05:11] <evanescent> the xorg log is worth checking too, which is in /var/log also
[05:11] <lefty_> pragmaticenigma: it said none the 1st 3 times
[05:11] <pragmaticenigma> jeff2365: it's going to be to be at the end of the previous session when you look in the logs... right before what gets added from your recent boot
[05:12] <evanescent> jeff2365, syslog has logs that precede the most recent boot. perhaps you were looking in dmesg or something
[05:12] <pragmaticenigma> lefty_: There are several updates out there that you should be seeing when you first install, specifically a kernel update
[05:12] <the_3f_rule> Checking dmesg.  Anything in particular to look for
[05:12] <jeff2365> ah, I did not know that, thank you
[05:12] <lefty_> pragmaticenigma: well that's weird
[05:12] <evanescent> your best bet is to find something in the logs because otherwise you are groping in the dark
[05:13] <evanescent> you can try things like memtest but its hard to diagnose random instability
[05:13] <pragmaticenigma> lefty_: If you do an upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 it's possible it downloaded the most up-to-date and installed them
[05:13] <evanescent> the other pertinent question would be what initiated the instability
[05:13] <evanescent> did you upgrade, etc.
[05:14] <jeff2365> this is a recent install, so it's always been happening
[05:15] <RokiqX> Learning to program in linux?
[05:15] <pragmaticenigma> lefty_: the biggest difference between 11.04 and 11.10 is 11.10 uses the new 3.x kernal... which may still have some bugs to workout... you might be better suited sticking to 11.04 until 12.04 comes out
[05:15] <RokiqX> Where to start?
[05:15] <evanescent> jeff2365, do you dual boot another os on the box
[05:15] <pragmaticenigma> RokiqX: This chat is not setup for programming questions
[05:16] <jeff2365> yes, Windows 7, and then 10.04 was installed through WUBI
[05:16] <evanescent> do those work fine
[05:16] <jeff2365> no issues on Windows 7, except occasional BSODs on shutdown
[05:17] <evanescent> if you presume that is unrelated, then that suggests that this is not happening because of outright defective hardware
[05:17] <jeff2365> some Driver Power State Failure
[05:17] <evanescent> i woudl check the logs more carefully, especially syslog and the xorg logs
[05:18] <jeff2365> alright, I'll do that, thanks
[05:18] <pragmaticenigma> jeff2365: what other components do you have in your machine? such as expansion cards like graphics, network, usb, etc...?
[05:18] <jeff2365> wireless network adapter and a 9800 gtx+
[05:19] <kadetvv> hi all
[05:19] <evanescent> you can try removing everything but the essential components and see if it happens
[05:19] <evanescent> but check the logs first
[05:19] <kadetvv> Who can help me?
[05:20] <jeff2365> alright
[05:20] <nikx> ask your question kadetvv ... someone will
[05:21] <jeff2365> now I just need to get it to freeze again...
[05:21] <kadetvv> I do not know how to delete adobe flash player plagin
[05:21] <yagoo> any use a tool like beagle or gnome-do ? I'm looking also at launchy.. I want one so I can graphically configure it.. I ran gnome-do once (comes with no documentation)... it works.. but now poof.. nowhere to be seen..
[05:21] <yagoo> lol
[05:21] <d34d1y> Anyone know why my window titles disappear randomly?
[05:21] <evanescent> ubuntu comes with dash now which is a similar idea
[05:21] <nikx> delete as in uninstall ? remove it from your computer ?
[05:21] <yagoo> (there a default shortkey for it?)
[05:22] <evanescent> i don't remember what it is for gnome-do yagoo but logical choices are things like the windows key
[05:22] <yagoo> evanescent, thought dash was a shell..
[05:22] <evanescent> it is a launcher similar to gnome do
[05:22] <evanescent> i think gnome-do may have used a key combination like super-space or alt-space or something
[05:23] <yagoo> evanescent, you should check out gnome-do-extensions.. there's more than just "launching" applications.. don't need to tell me to use the windows key
[05:23] <nikx> delete as in uninstall ? remove it from your computer ? kadetvv
[05:23] <evanescent> i've used gnome do
[05:24] <pragmaticenigma> Most launcher apps I've used, use the Alt + Space to bring up the program
[05:24] <pragmaticenigma> I prefer trusty ALT + F2 though
[05:24] <yagoo> evanescent, apt-cache search dash shows nothing like gnome-do..
[05:24] <kadetvv> I removed the player itself, but what that was adobe flash player plugin downloader
[05:25] <evanescent> are you using unity yagoo
[05:25] <jeff2365> whoops, drives are SATA, not PATA, though it probably doesn't matter
[05:25] <pragmaticenigma> jeff2365:  I don't think it's your drives.. I was looking for age of them which you said was around 4 years... if they were solid state was more what I was seeking
[05:25] <yagoo> evanescent, are you an idiot? why would i be asking this if I WAS using unity?
[05:25] <yagoo> pff
[05:26] <jeff2365> kk
[05:26] <evanescent> nice
[05:26] <pragmaticenigma> jeff2365: I suspect that your wireless card might be the issue... those are nortious for power management issues causing the system to hang
[05:27] <jeff2365> i'll try removing it after I can get a good look at the logs
[05:28] <jeff2365> is that thought at all based on the driver power state failure BSOD that windows was having? because that seems to be a more recent problem, while the card is 4 years old
[05:28] <pangolin> yagoo: please don't insult people.
[05:28] <lotus> hello ~ 请问在ubuntu下可以安装lotus notes 客户端吗？
[05:29] <yagoo> pangolin, he was telling to use the windows key.. I'm not listening to him telling me these things. Thanks.
[05:29] <lotus> hello ~ 请问在ubuntu下可以安装lotus notes 客户端吗？
[05:29] <pangolin> yagoo: are you an idiot, I distinctly remember linking you to our guidelines and banning you for 7 days in the hopes that you would read them. Did you not read the guidelines?
[05:30] <pangolin> if not tell me now
[05:30] <yagoo> pangolin, maybe you can sed all the help i did today.. You seem to be less helpful than me.
[05:30] <pangolin> yagoo: Please change your attitude and how you interact with the users of this channel.
[05:31] <yagoo> pangolin, dig some more.
[05:31] <pangolin> yagoo: I don't care if you wrote Linux
[05:31] <yagoo> pangolin, pff
[05:31] <pangolin> change your attitude.
[05:31] <yagoo> pangolin, time to get a life. I do help on here.
[05:31] <pangolin> The amount of help one gives in this channel, no matter how helpful it is, does not change the rules and that they apply to everyone equally.
[05:32] <roasted> Is there any reason why the title bars of a theme would look different in Gnome Shell than they do in Unity?
[05:32] <lotus>  hello ~ 请问在ubuntu下可以安装lotus notes 客户端吗？
[05:33] <lotus>  hello ~ 请问在ubuntu下可以安装lotus notes 客户端吗？木有人知道吗？
[05:34] <st_prg> Hi guys, basically what I want to do is put a timeout on the GRUB menu to boot into the first option after 3 seconds :)
[05:36] <shanet> Sorry my computer froze. Again, I just want to put a 3 second timeout on the GRUB menu
[05:38] <nikx> shanet: http://linuxpoison.blogspot.com/2010/11/how-to-change-grub-2-default-timeout.html
[05:38] <shanet> Thanks heaps nikx
[05:39] <lotus> hello ~ 请问在ubuntu下可以安装lotus notes 客户端吗？木有人知道吗？
[05:40] <geoffmcc> !cn |lotus
[05:42] <sherefe> dr_willis good morning
[05:44] <sherefe> guys tell me please when i install new packages from repositories like apt-get install , where packages stores in my local computer , which folder in ?
[05:48] <ilyekkakai> Where are panel applets stored? I need to remove an applet which is causing problems.
[05:48] <Arcademan> sherefe, I belive in the /etc/apt/ :)
[05:49] <machiolate> is there a way to tell if i have OpenCL enabled?
[05:50] <Arcademan> machiolate, you mean openGL?
[05:50] <tonyyarusso> sherefe: Many, many folders.  Packages install files all over the filesystem, per the filesystem hierarchy standard.
[05:51] <machiolate> nah, I just installed openCL, it's newer
[05:51] <lotus> is there anybody know whether I can install lotus notes client on ubuntu ?
[05:51] <machiolate> it's about optimizing across GPU/CPU and heterogenious stuff
[05:52] <ilyekkakai> how do I remove a gnome panel applet from the panel applet list?
[05:52] <shanet> lotus: Did you try googling? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222492
[05:52] <shanet> ilyekkakai: Right click -> Remove from panel
[05:53] <ilyekkakai> shanet, no no no! I don't want to remove an aplet from the panel.. I want to remove it from the list of applets
[05:54] <shanet> Oh I see
[05:54] <lotus> shanet:  yeah ,but I cannot do it successfully
[05:54] <lunitik> lotus, I'm 95% sure you can, but shouldn't you be asking IBM?
[05:55] <ilyekkakai> where are panel applets stored. I need to remove an old version of an applet which is causing problems with the installation of a new version....
[05:55] <lotus> lunitik: IBM ,myebe i should google more about it .
[05:55] <tonyyarusso> ilyekkakai: How did you install it?
[05:56] <lunitik> ilyekkakai, dpkg -L lists contents of a package... I forget the package the gnome-panel applets are stored in though (it is prolly dpkg -L gnome-panel-applets I just don't remember)
[05:56] <ilyekkakai> tonyyarusso, from terminal.. it was a python applet downloaded from internet.
[05:56] <tonyyarusso> ilyekkakai: What what commands?
[05:57] <sherefe> Arcademan tonyyarusso thanks guys. I just supposed that there is folders like in freebsd /usr/ports/distfiles where all sources stores after downloading
[05:57] <ilyekkakai> tonyyarusso, i don't remember now... that was about a year ago. and the website I got the installer no longer exists.
[05:57] <lunitik> sherefe, standard is /usr/src
[05:58] <tonyyarusso> ilyekkakai: Was it a proper .deb package, with dpkg or apt-get, or was it some sort of manual silliness?
[05:58] <ilyekkakai> tonyyarusso, some kind of manual python install batch thing
[05:59] <ilyekkakai> hold on I think the old installer is in my trash
[05:59] <lunitik> sherefe, the extra files of a package are in /var/lib/dpkg/info
[05:59] <tonyyarusso> ilyekkakai: Okay, in that case try using 'locate nameofapplet' to find files related to it, and pastebin when you get results.
[06:00] <lunitik> sherefe, to see full contents of a package... as I said to someone else, it is dpkg -L ... and to see where something came from dpkg -S ... there is also apt-src is you prefer source like FreeBSD but as you know default here is binary
[06:00] <inashdeen> hi, is there an option to toggle the shutdown box option on ubuntu 11.10 using cli?
[06:00]  * sherefe hug lunitik
[06:00] <shanet> sorry ilyekkakai, I can not find any answers for you .
[06:01] <lunitik> sherefe, apt-file also searches contents of packages still in the archive...
[06:01] <lunitik> sherefe, sort of like apt-cache but for contents not descriptions
[06:01] <almoxarife> ilyekkakai: you want to uninstall something, but you don't know what and where it came from or went?
[06:02] <ilyekkakai> tonyyarusso, the applet is internode-applet.py and it was installed using "python setup.py install"... do you want me to pastebin the contents of setup.py?
[06:02] <sherefe> thank you so much lunitik
[06:02] <lunitik> ilyekkakai, locate internode-applet
[06:02] <ilyekkakai> ok
[06:02] <tonyyarusso> ilyekkakai: what he said.  If you have the setup.py file you *might* be able to do 'python setup.py uninstall'.
[06:03] <ilyekkakai> ok
[06:04] <lunitik> ilyekkakai, in the future, you should really be more careful about installing things randomly from the net...
[06:05] <ilyekkakai> it's hardly randomly. It is the download usage meter recommended by my ISP for linux.
[06:05] <ilyekkakai> just it was an old version which was discontinued and it was preventing me from installing a new version for some reason.
[06:05] <shane91c> Hello, is anybody here who knows anything about using LIRC on a HP Compaq nc6400?
[06:07] <lunitik> ilyekkakai, I just searched 'internode-applet PPA' and came across this: https://launchpad.net/~dwg/+archive/ppa - it would have resulted in a much cleaner process
[06:14] <ilyekkakai> lunitik, thanks...
[06:15] <almoxarife> shane91c: lirc?
[06:16] <shane91c> Yes, I want to use a remote control with the IR port on my laptop. But it's not working.
[06:17] <shane91c> I've tried manually modprobe-ing the smsc-ircc2 driver with the correct I/O ports which appears to work, although I have no other IR device to test it.
[06:17] <shane91c> But I believe LIRC uses it's own SIR port driver
[06:18] <RamtinA> hello there o can't connect to VPN from last night cause i removed one package of another App . what should i do?
[06:18] <inashdeen> hi what is pyhton-gnomeapplet and why it is different from app-indicator
[06:18] <qqwe1345> REGISTER !!!!!! cui_wei0616@163.com
[06:20] <RamtinA> :(
[06:21] <nimbiotics> I'm trying to install handbrake. I already added the PPA using the add-apt-repository & apt-get update commands, but wgen I try to apt-get install handbrake I'm told that this package is not available (http://paste.ubuntu.com/750023/). Can some1 plz tell me what am I doing wrong and how to fix it. TIA!!!
[06:22] <RamtinA> Which packages should be installed for connect to VPN?
[06:25] <nikx> RamtinA,  i dont think u need to install any extra packages to use VPN, just go to network menu and do configure vpn
[06:25] <almoxarife> nimbiotics: either the ppa did not get added or the ppa is not for your version
[06:26] <RamtinA> nikx: i did. and until last night that works but i removed a pakcage
[06:26] <nikx> RamtinA, which package did you remove?
[06:27] <RamtinA> nikx:  i think that was ...vpnl2tp
[06:27] <RamtinA> that was another Vpn manager
[06:27] <nimbiotics> almoxarife: huess u r rite as I'm trrying the 11.04 ppa
[06:28] <nikx> give me a moment RamtinA
[06:28] <inashdeen> hi is there a way to install lancelot on ubuntu 11.10?
[06:28] <RamtinA> nikx:  ok
[06:29] <Aengus> inashdeen: what is lancelot?
[06:29] <inashdeen> Aengus : KDE menu
[06:30] <dr_willis> trying to run the kde panel under unity?
[06:30] <nikx> RamtinA, try removing and installing network-manager-openvpn
[06:30] <inashdeen> dr_willis : not quite, just the lancelot
[06:30] <dr_willis> there are classic gnome like menu things you can use in Unity
[06:30] <Aengus> inashdeen: should be pretty straight forward what is the issue
[06:31] <inashdeen> Aengus : i dont understand
[06:31] <Aengus> inashdeen: understand what, how to install?
[06:31] <dr_willis> Its a kde widgit/plasid so has to run in the kde panel as far as i know.
[06:31] <dr_willis> !info lancelot
[06:31] <inashdeen> dr_willis : classic menu is to 98
[06:31] <dr_willis> inashdeen:  theres others mentioned at the askubuntu.com site.
[06:31] <almoxarife> simplicity is cairo-dock on gnome-shell, its almost like gnome2 inashdeen
[06:32] <inashdeen> Aengus : i try to run gnomenu on gnome3, ubuntu 11.10 , it doesnt work, tried cardapio
[06:32] <inashdeen> Aengus : dont like it./
[06:32] <inashdeen> Almoxarife : yes, i am using cairo dock, need to have a menu for it now
[06:33] <RamtinA> nikx:  That wasn't installed
[06:33] <almoxarife> inashdeen: need a menu for the menu?
[06:33] <nikx> RamtinA, install it then?
[06:33] <inashdeen> almoxarife : cairo dock only have trhe classic menu
[06:35] <RamtinA> nikx:  it dosen't work
[06:37] <nikx> RamtinA,  check out these other plugins mentioned here ... maybe one of the other ones were installed on your system https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient
[06:39] <inashdeen> bump
[06:40] <dr_willis> bumping dosent really do any good on irc....
[06:41] <almoxarife> I don't understand the term 'bump' someone want to explain it to me?
[06:41] <almoxarife> !info bump
[06:42] <dr_willis> its an attempt to get more attenton focused on a foruom thread post...
[06:42] <zabomber> hi guys. i have a script that needs to run at launch but under a different user
[06:43] <zabomber> so i login as "joe" i need "sues" script to be run
[06:43] <zabomber> automatically
[06:43] <zabomber> ??
[06:43] <dr_willis> zabomber:  and it does what exactly? runs an X app? just cli stuff?
[06:43] <almoxarife> inashdeen: I gave up when you said, 'cairo-dock only has classic menu' , I don't know how its classic
[06:43] <zabomber> its a honeypot. it starts a process and connect to a mysql database
[06:43] <zabomber> kippo
[06:43] <zabomber> user kippo needs to run /opt/kippo/start.sh
[06:43] <zabomber> to launch kippo at startup
[06:44] <dr_willis> zabomber:  you can use the su, and sudo commands to swtich to a differnt user if you have the proper permissions
[06:44] <zabomber> how do i give the user permission to su to kippo?
[06:44] <dr_willis> if you want it to run at BOOT time. /etc/rc.local is a good way to do it.
[06:45] <dr_willis> su -login billgates --command takeovertheworld
[06:45] <dr_willis> oops.. its --login :)
[06:45] <inashdeen> almoxarife : i do think that you don't get the point. ok, like this, how do i open applications on cairo dock?
[06:45] <zabomber> ok. that makes sense... but than how do i allow "joe" to su to --login the login account?
[06:46] <dd070> when rotatelogs run ?.
[06:46] <dr_willis> zabomber:  he may need to know the password for the other account
[06:46] <RamtinA> nikx: It doesn't work
[06:46] <dr_willis> zabomber:  try it and see if it works.
[06:47] <dr_willis> sudo i think can do a similer thing. but its more complex
[06:48] <zabomber> ta
[06:48] <zabomber> it worked
[06:48] <hopp3r> hi, for some reason, videos dont play for me
[06:48] <hopp3r> neither in movie player, nor in VLC player
[06:48] <hopp3r> it plays the sound
[06:48] <dmc68> Schizart is in sore need of a developer. We need someone who knows CSS/HTML?PHP and can hack/mod some wordpress/buddypress templates. please contact me if you are interested, you will get full credit on the site. for more info hit up http://www.schizart.com thank you for your time.
[06:49] <hopp3r> and shows a black screen
[06:49] <dr_willis> hopp3r:  tried other video files?
[06:49] <hopp3r> dr_willis: yes, various ones, all AVIs
[06:49] <dr_willis> ive seen some video codecs have that issue when they are not supported.
[06:50] <dr_willis> all 'avi' means veyr little.. avi can be any of several dozen codecs.
[06:50] <cebrere> anyone know anything about xchat?
[06:50] <dr_willis> hopp3r:  run vlc from a terminal, play the video. look for error messages.
[06:50] <hopp3r> dr_willis: thanks
[06:50] <dr_willis> cebrere:  i know it has a very well documented homepage/help docs. :) and its very popular.
[06:51] <cebrere> well, i was more curious about a command for looking at users in a channel
[06:51] <hopp3r> dr_willis: Blocked: call to setenv("_PX_CONFIG_ORDER", "", 1) | that mean anything?
[06:51] <cebrere> just a quick q for a quick A
[06:51] <dr_willis>  /who nickname
[06:51] <dr_willis> hopp3r:  nope.
[06:51] <hopp3r> dr_willis: well, thats all thats showing up x..x
[06:52] <dr_willis> not to me at least hopp3r . vlc and totem use very differnt players.  you could try the same thing with totem and see if any error messages show up.
[06:52] <dr_willis> hopp3r:  also you may want to track down some little video that other linux users in here can also try to play.
[06:52] <hopp3r> dr_willis: how about, I updated my ubuntu which used to be installed on another PC, whose hard drive I took, and put in my new system (i upgraded the install for possible driver issues)
[06:53] <dr_willis> hopp3r:  its possible its a video driver issue. what video card you have?
[06:53] <dr_willis> vlc has several options for its 'video out' rendering. it canuse.
[06:53] <hopp3r> dr_willis: NVIDA something or other
[06:55] <dr_willis> i will also mention ive seen odd video playback issues with err... lets say 'adult' videos that have annoying specialized drm protection....
[06:55] <dr_willis> ie: malware codecs
[06:55] <hopp3r> dr_willis: heh, I am watching a "legal" version of the simpsons here
[06:56] <hopp3r> its from a professional well rated website though
[06:56] <dr_willis> try some of the differnt 'video out' options in vlc perhaps. You did install the nvidia 3d drivers from the package manager?
[06:56] <hopp3r> dr_willis: yeah, I installed one
[06:56] <dr_willis> and you did reboot afterwards?
[06:56] <hopp3r> dr_willis: well, not from the package menu
[06:56] <hopp3r> dr_willis: well, not from the package menu
[06:57] <hopp3r> dr_willis: I went to the "Additional Drivers" window
[06:57] <hopp3r> is that ok?
[06:57] <dr_willis> that is just a front end to the normal repos :)
[06:58] <KingFisher> I want to hook up my netbook running Ubuntu to a samsung monitor
[06:58] <KingFisher> I want to hook up my samsung monitor to my ubuntu netbook
[06:59] <KingFisher> How can I do this?
[06:59] <KingFisher> So far it has been fruitless.
[06:59] <soreau> KingFisher: Plug it in
[06:59] <KingFisher> soreau, Thanks for the condescension. I have already plugged it in
[06:59] <KingFisher> That is kind of obvious.
[07:00] <soreau> KingFisher: What graphics driver?
[07:00] <nikx> lol KingFisher
[07:00] <KingFisher> soreau, I'll look it up hold on. I have a default program called "Monitor" on here that is supposed to be able to hook up a monitor to a laptop but its not working
[07:00] <dr_willis> hopp3r:  in vlc. under tools -> preferances, video. 'output' theres differnt outputs you can try.
[07:01] <dr_willis> hopp3r:  also the overlay setting may or may not be an issue
[07:02] <dr_willis> theres 'monitors' then theres 'displays' also i belive
[07:03] <dr_willis> You may be needing the'Displays' tool KingFisher  also in the past - ive had to use thelaptops special fn-XX keys to get external displays turned on
[07:03] <soreau> dr_willis: different versions of ubuntu label the menu entry differently
[07:03] <soreau> they all point to gnome-display-properties I believe
[07:03] <KingFisher> dr_willis, fn-xx keys?
[07:04] <soreau> but nvidia doesnt support randr 1.2 still I dont think
[07:04] <memogo> how to run the shutdown box on ubuntu 11.10?
[07:04] <memogo> using cli
[07:04] <bitcycle> Hey all.  Is it possible to mirror the desktop with or without the sound from one desktop playing a video to another?  Scenario:  I've got a movie playing on one machine, and I'd like to be seeing a window of the screen output on my laptop.
[07:05] <dr_willis> bitcycle: depending on the network speeds. you can ssh to the remote box. run vlc, and have it appear locally. If you have X forwarding enabled.
[07:05] <dr_willis> bitcycle:  sound would play on the remote box still.
[07:05] <soreau> bitcycle: You can use remote desktop but its not likely to be smooth because of graphics driver and network speeds
[07:06] <dr_willis> vnc as an alterantive. but that wouldbe slow for video playback
[07:06] <bitcycle> dr_gonzo: Its on the local home wireless network... not really a problem with network speeds.
[07:07] <soreau> bitcycle: It might be easier to mount the file system sshfs and play it locally on the lappy
[07:07] <bitcycle> soreau: for sure.  Thanks.
[07:07] <wookienz> anyone using the new asus zenbook?
[07:08] <soreau> ! anyone | wookienz
[07:08] <wookienz> soreau: fine ill rephrase
[07:09] <nikx> !details
[07:09] <wookienz> the zenbook from asus is having some issues with multi touch. Is anyone using this laptop and overcome the multi touch issue? sorry used anyone again!
[07:10] <soreau> wookienz: Try explaining what issues you are having exactly
[07:10] <wookienz> im not having any issues as i dont have one. I am ooking to buy one. Those who have one will know what i am talking baout
[07:11] <evanescent> after upgrading to 11.10 compiz crashes randomly (segmentation fault). compiz --replace fixes the problem temporarily, but this is very frustrating. anyone encounter a similar problem?
[07:11] <soreau> wookienz: You might ask in ##hardware or ##linux since the drivers arent exclusive to ubuntu
[07:12] <soreau> evanescent: You could at least enable crash handler and have it start a fallback wm, say metacity
[07:12] <soreau> evanescent: plugin in ccsm
[07:12] <evanescent> good idea
[07:12] <soreau> its possible it segfaults before it hits the crash handler code path though
[07:13] <evanescent> we'll find out
[07:13] <markkkz> hi, what file in /var/log are the init messages written to? Is it syslog or dmesg or both?
[07:13] <solars> hey, is there a tool to check harddisks in ubuntu?
[07:14] <Aengus> solars: specifically?
[07:15] <evanescent> enabling crash handler crashed compiz...
[07:15] <soreau> solars: sys>admin>disk utility?
[07:15] <markkkz> Solars: I use "disk utility"
[07:16] <markkkz> hi, which file in /var/log are the init messages specifically written to? Is it syslog or dmesg or both?
[07:16] <soreau> solars: To start it from terminal, run palimpsest
[07:16] <solars> thanks
[07:17] <evanescent> when compiz dies, the following appears in syslog: compiz[2807]: segfault at 250 ip 00007fbdf58a4420 sp 00007fffb2c55238 error 4 in libnux-1.0.so.0.1400.0[7fbdf571a000+1ca000]
[07:17] <soreau> evanescent: Sounds like a candidate for a bug report
[07:17] <evanescent> yeah
[07:17] <soreau> evanescent: Its clearly unity related
[07:18] <soreau> compiz itself does not use nux library
[07:18] <evanescent> i see
[07:18] <viper1981> hi
[07:20] <soreau> hi overdub ;)
[07:20]  * soreau yawns and goes to lie down
[07:20] <overdub> soreau: hi
[07:21] <markkkz> anybody know whatis the equivalent of 'klogd' or 'syslog.conf' on Ubuntu? I cannot find it in /etc
[07:22] <solars> soreau, markkkz anyone of you konw where this disk utility would be located in the newest ubuntu version? I only see a handful of system stuff there in the menu
[07:22] <solars> just out of curiosity
[07:23] <soreau> markkkz: It may be more practical for you to explain what problem you are having and how you are aiming to fix it
[07:23] <Aengus> solars:  df and fdisk are your friend
[07:23] <soreau> solars: That is why I told you how to run it from cli
[07:23] <solars> Aengus, I need to check the fs
[07:24] <soreau> it might be different in gnome3 though
[07:24] <Aengus> what do you mean?
[07:24] <solars> soreau, yes, but isn't it even included? weird
[07:24] <markkkz> solars: If you are using Unity, just type in "disk utility". or run command "palimpsest"
[07:24] <solars> bad sectors, smart status etc
[07:24] <Aengus> open terminal
[07:24] <solars> markkkz, yeah I have it, just wondered
[07:24] <Aengus> man df
[07:24] <Aengus> man fdisk
[07:24] <soreau> solars: That is why many do not care for unity or gnome3 interface
[07:24] <soreau> they hide a lot of useful items
[07:25] <solars> Aengus, I know what they do, its a disk space and partitioning utility...
[07:25] <markkkz> soreau: trying to see what messages are there on boot. I also want to change the verbose level if that is possible.
[07:25] <solars> soreau, it seems yeah, very annoying
[07:25] <soreau> not to mention unreliability/unstability
[07:25] <Aengus> solars:  then use the command line, why bother with some frontend
[07:25] <solars> I asked tools to check a fs
[07:25] <solars> not about a frontend
[07:26] <solars> and you suggested a partitioning and disk space utility
[07:26] <solars> thats what I meant, but I'm fine now as I don't care if its frontend or cmd line
[07:26] <soreau> markkkz: That doesnt explain what trouble you are having or the reason why you want to do that
[07:26] <Scott_S> @Solars: I just joined, what's the issue you're running into/your question?
[07:26] <solars> no issues, already was helped
[07:27] <markkkz> soreau: There is no problem. I want to look at what are these messages on init. That is why I asked which log is it written to - syslog or dmesg will do?
[07:27] <Scott_S> markkkz: As far as I know, there is no way to disable the splash screen on boot.
[07:27] <soreau> Scott_S: Yes, there is..
[07:27] <Scott_S> Soreau: Well, now you know his question. How would you go about doing that?
[07:27] <markkkz> Scott_S: that is easy. But I don't want to disable it, I want to see what is written on VT on boot, the same exact way but in a log file.
[07:28] <soreau> Scott_S: That is not what he is asking
[07:28] <soreau> he wants to review the log
[07:28] <markkkz> yes, which log is it?
[07:28] <markkkz> syslog?
[07:28] <markkkz> :)
[07:28] <soreau> I dont know if the text output at boot time is logged explicitly ver batim
[07:28] <markkkz> The exact same messages as displayed on VT during boot, from the kernel messags down to init messages before GDM is started and all that.
[07:28] <Scott_S> Googling right now, will return with an answer asap.
[07:28] <soreau> but dmesg shows all the pertinent useful information you would ever need
[07:29] <Doodie> hi, I installed ubuntu on a different partition but when I start my laptop, I always get 'grub rescue' screen. Is there a way so that I can tell my laptop that the grub is in that partition of harddisk?
[07:29] <Scott_S> markkkz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49925
[07:29] <soreau> markkkz: You can set certain modules to be more verbose, but not sure about how to make the kernel be more verbose in general.. try ##linux maybe
[07:30] <Scott_S> Doodie: Boot up to an Ubuntu Live CD and run the GRUB2 installation on the hard disk again.
[07:30] <Zutara> How would I go about fixing "to be installed" & "is uninstallable" problems in 11.10?
[07:30] <markkkz> hmmm... because I am seeing things right on shutdown which I don't see in either syslog or dmesg. That is why I am curious. My system is stable., I'm just curious what those messages are.  Lots of them.
[07:30] <markkkz> Scott_S: thanks :)
[07:30] <Scott_S> markkkz: No problem.
[07:31] <Scott_S> Zutara: Are you talkingabout in the Aptitude package manager?
[07:31] <Zutara> yeah. Synaptic.
[07:31] <soreau> markkkz: If you could see all the internal messages that happen inside your computer, you could fill up volumes of meaningless jargon
[07:31] <Zutara> My brother is having problems installing stuff.
[07:31] <Doodie> Scott_S,  I am on the menu screen from the bootable cd but how can i get to install Grub2 ?
[07:31] <soreau> meaningless to humans, anyway
[07:32] <Scott_S> Doodie: Give me a minute here, and I'll find a tutorial. I don't know the command on-hand.
[07:32] <soreau> or most average users :P
[07:32] <Zutara> soreau: lol
[07:32] <Scott_S> Zutara: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[07:32] <Scott_S> .. Woops, sorry.
[07:32] <blake> they should make a portable virtual desktop similar to mojopac but for linux
[07:32] <markkkz> soreau: That's ok. The fact that it is there has aroused my curiousity. Why is it there? Why are these not logged? If so, there may be ways to log these or suppress it from showing on the terminal.
[07:32] <Scott_S> Wrong person. Doodie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[07:32] <Zutara> that ok.
[07:32] <soreau> ! grub2 | Doodie
[07:33] <future>  
[07:33] <soreau> markkkz: Try ##linux
[07:33] <soreau> somewhat beyond the scope of general ubuntu support
[07:33] <markkkz> soreau: is that linux IRC channel?
[07:34] <Scott_S> Zutara: Out of curosity, what is the package(s) that your brother is trying to install?
[07:34] <memogo> hi , is there a way to run lens wihthout unity plugin i.e : as standalone application?
[07:34] <markkkz> soreau: same server - freenode?
[07:34] <dr_willis> memogo:  not that ive ever seen.
[07:34] <soreau> markkkz: yes, the linux channel on freenode
[07:34] <Zutara> Scott_S: scratch
[07:35] <memogo> dr_willis : or is there a way to run unity plugin, but hide the left bar. i want to use dock
[07:35] <markkkz> soreau: Thanks. I'll try.
[07:35] <Zutara> Scott_S: It's made for Elementary but no one's ever in there.
[07:35] <Zutara> (the support chan that is)
[07:36] <Scott_S> Zutara: Is this a fresh installation? If it isn't, you can try running "sudo apt-get update", then try scratch via 'apt-get install scratch'
[07:37] <dr_willis> memogo:  i just set it really small and to auto hide with a large time till it displays
[07:38] <Zutara> Scott_S: it is a fresh installation. he added the PPA (it's still in the testing phases) and I told him to run the sudo update command, but wehn he tried to chek it for installation in Synaptic it gave him unsatisfiable errors.
[07:38] <dr_willis> ive not noticed if any of the docks out have gotten unity panel features yet or not.
[07:38] <markkkz> soreau: darn, can't talk on ##linux . it is being moderated.
[07:38] <dr_willis> markkkz:  you are a registered nick?
[07:39] <soreau> markkkz: See the topic or channel info there
[07:39] <memogo> dr_willis : that is not really what i wanted but thanx
[07:39] <markkkz> dr_willis: nope. I don't have one and never bothered to register. I just come here to ask for help from time to time and that has always been enough.
[07:39] <Scott_S> Zutara: the only thing I can think of is that it doesn't have the required dependencies, which would lead to it not being able to being installed. Generally though, Synaptic would auto-download those dependies... pretty weird.
[07:39] <Scott_S> Zutara: give me a minute and I'll try to get it up and running on my VM and I'll get back to you.
[07:39] <memogo> dr_willis: but then you dont use lens with it?
[07:39] <soreau> markkkz: Chanserv tells you what to do
[07:40] <dr_willis> memogo:  now a days. I use the left side panel and the awn dock. i set the panel to never hide these days. :)
[07:40] <Zutara> Scott_S: ok
[07:40] <dr_willis> gotta love big wide monitors
[07:40] <Zutara> :)
[07:40] <soreau> markkkz: To have access to most channels, you want a real irc client, ie not using a web client, and a registered nick
[07:41] <Zutara> XChat is the best IMHO.
[07:41] <dr_willis> I tend to use weechat these days
[07:41] <markkkz> soreau: Thanks. I read it. Ithink  I won't bother. The people there might not want to bother with my newbie question. LOL!
[07:41] <soreau> markkkz: Some channels have requirements to cut down on spam etc
[07:41] <Scott_S> Zutara: Have you attempted to use the 'apt-get install scratch' command after adding the ppa and using 'apt-get update'?
[07:41] <markkkz> i'm on XChat.
[07:41] <markkkz> not some web client :)
[07:41] <Zutara> no. I'll tell him to try that. brb
[07:41] <poyntz> hi all
[07:42] <poyntz> is it possible to install oneiric without overriding grub?
[07:42] <poyntz> so I could install off live CD, but then, if it overrides the current grub, I'd then have to reinstall windows 7?
[07:42] <soreau> markkkz: Also, many channels that have these requirements often yield some of the best information. Its never a bad idea to have a registered nick on freenode as its a valuable resource etc etc blah blah
[07:42] <dr_willis> what os is to be handling grub?
[07:42] <Scott_S> poyntz: If GRUB is already installed, it should auto-detect other installations. It should search for Windows and Ubuntu.
[07:43] <Zutara> The following packages have unmet dependancies: libglib libgtk etc.
[07:43] <markkkz> poyntz: I think I was able to do that but I had 2 disks, so 1 disk had Windows+Natty, the other disk had Oneiric. I jus switch disk prio on BIOS and the grub comes out different.
[07:43] <poyntz> Scott_S: it does :), but I borked my kubuntu installation when I tried to upgrade to oneiric
[07:43] <Doodie> Scott_S, Thank you , Grub is now working.
[07:43] <Scott_S> Doodie: Good to hear.
[07:43] <Zutara> ^ Scott_S:
[07:43] <EMKO> Is 11.10 buggy for you guys?
[07:43] <Scott_S> EMKO: I haven't had any issues with it as of  yet.
[07:44] <EMKO> Wow
[07:44] <helo> anyone else having qjackctl/jackd issues suddenly?
[07:44] <markkkz> soreau: Ayt, I'll register when google gives me zero. :) thanks man... ...
[07:44] <poyntz> Scott_S: so if I install oneiric from a live CD, will that use the current grub?
[07:44] <Scott_S> Zutara: You would have to install those dependies before attempting the install. Just type 'apt-get install (package)'. It'll go one by one, but it should work after you've met them all.
[07:44] <Scott_S> poyntz: It will most likely install GRUB again, but that GRUB should list Windows and Ubuntu as bootables too.
[07:45] <Scott_S> poyntz: I am not familiar with oneirc and so I cannot say for sure.
[07:45] <poyntz> Scott_S: will it still be my primary partition? aka will boot point to grub or the windows one?
[07:45] <Zutara> Scott_S: some of the packages are installed but their the old versions. some of the others aren;t even in the elementary/oneiric repos either.
[07:45] <EMKO> Firefox is messed up flash works rarely.  Left unity bar sometimes does show unless u minimize the app window
[07:45] <Scott_S> poyntz: Ah, I feel pretty dumb now. If you're looking to update your current installation, simply do so via the update manager.
[07:46] <EMKO> So I seen some updates I thought that would fix it and now the is doesn't boot lol
[07:46] <markkkz> EMKO: 11.10 is working find one my machine
[07:46] <dr_willis> EMKO:  flash has been an issue for the last 9000 years.. :)
[07:46] <markkkz> *fine
[07:46] <Zutara> but I'll see if he can install at least some of them. brb
[07:46] <Scott_S> EMKO: Did you use 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree', and have you installed the latest video drivers for your video card?
[07:46] <poyntz> Scott_S: I tried that, it screwed up kubuntu, and not entirely sure what it screwed up specifically. all i know is that basic linux commands were throwing errors
[07:47] <EMKO> Os doesn't boot after updates I have to load older one
[07:47] <poyntz> Scott_S: additionally I couldn't install the latest graphic driver for linux x64
[07:47] <Lolitha> #goc
[07:48] <Scott_S> poyntz: Are you using GRUB or the Windows boot loader?
[07:48] <poyntz> Scott_S: currently grub
[07:48] <poyntz> Scott_S: grub was unaffected by the upgrade
[07:48] <Scott_S> poyntz: I'm not too experienced with full upgrades, I generally wipe the old installation and install the newer distro.
[07:49] <EMKO> Mine says kernel panic can't load sda1 change boot=
[07:49] <poyntz> Scott_S: do you dual boot?
[07:49] <Scott_S> poyntz: I hope someone else can help you, I personally don't have enough experience to give you good advice.
[07:49] <Scott_S> poyntz: I run multiple hard drives and install different boot loaders. I've had too many issues with dual-booting.
[07:50] <poyntz> Scott_S: my fear is that when you dual boot the older of the two OS's hijacks boot loader
[07:50] <Scott_S> poyntz: Your Windows bootloader was already over-written, so at this point as GRUB is the main boot loader, installing a new distro shouldn't affect it much.
[07:51] <Scott_S> poyntz: When GRUB is installed, it scans for other OS partitions and lists them as bootable. Theoretically, installing a new distro would just change the boot list.
[07:52] <poyntz> Scott_S: so, the partition which currently hosts boot loader will still host bootloader if I install the latest kubuntu from a live-CD?
[07:53] <Scott_S> poyntz: Theoretically, yes. Just keep in mind I am not 100% sure and I would prefer if you got better info from #kubuntu or someone else here who has more experience.
[07:53] <EMKO> If I make a new partition in ubuntu why can't I write to it?
[07:53] <Scott_S> EMKO: Have you mounted the partition?
[07:53] <EMKO> Yes
[07:53] <poyntz> if we scrap the k from kubuntu and just say 'ubuntu' would you be 100% sure?
[07:54] <EMKO> Only can't make files with root in terminal
[07:54]  * Genupulas new install will hold the grub 
[07:55] <EnigmaticEffigy> Scott_S, apt-get install scratch    outputs: http://pastebin.com/g9JwHVzq
[07:55] <Timewarper> hey
[07:55] <poyntz> that's strange
[07:56] <poyntz> last time I installed Kubuntu after install windows
[07:56] <dr_willis> when  doing some video  converting - ive notived the 'tumbnail image' for some videos change. Id like to find a way to manually select what frame that thumbnail uses.. anyone evern seen a tool that lets you set that?
[07:56] <Timewarper> i was told to install nvidia-current. As a result now all compositing is disabled and if i run nvidia-xconfig i cant even startx on boot.
[07:56] <Timewarper> help?
[07:56] <poyntz> Windows jacked the bootloader
[07:56] <jason_> quit
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[07:56] <jason_> exit
[07:56] <dr_willis> Timewarper:  whats your video chipset
[07:56] <FloodBot1> jason_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:57] <blake> @poyntz use ubuntu live cd then install grub again
[07:57] <Scott_S> Timewarper: Download the latest drivers from http://www.nvidia.com
[07:57] <Timewarper> dr_willis, nvidia 9600m gt
[07:57] <Scott_S> Timewarper: There are instructions to install the drivers from the bootloader. One minute and I'll get them.
[07:57] <liam> is it possible to install 389 directory server on ubuntu 11.04? I see that there are packages here https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-389-directory-server/+archive/ppa but I think that they are only for ubuntu 11.11...
[07:57] <Scott_S> Timewarper: I mean the terminal, sorry.
[07:57] <ROFLbeing> join #chatz
[07:58] <poyntz> blake: if i install on my old linux partition ie ext3/4 or whatever it is, will the new grub replace the old grub and be pointed to by the bootloader?
[07:58] <poyntz> or, will the bootloader look for the nfts partition
[07:59] <Timewarper> Scott_S, ok i will search nvidia.com
[07:59] <Timewarper> i thought there was a package that worked
[07:59] <Scott_S> EnigmaticEffigy: I'll give you a list of commands to use in a moment, sorry, lots of questions being asked lol.
[07:59] <Zutara> ahhh
[08:00] <poyntz> because partition ext# is older than my ntfs partition
[08:00] <blake> @pyntz it will detect your partitions that windows is installed on it will list it after
[08:02] <pac4> hi everybd
[08:02] <Scott_S> EnigmaticEffigy: It appears that have a .deb installer for Ubuntu: http://info.scratch.mit.edu/Scratch_1.4_Download (I am trying it right now. Will report with my findings... )
[08:03] <billybob> hi all, I,m have'n a pxe install problems for weeks now,  when running a unattended pxe install on ubuntu 11.04 server  ( "tasksel tasksel/first multiselect standard" in the preseed file) on the first reboot of the fresh install all i get is a blinking cursor. But when i change the above line in the preseed file to ( tasksel tasksel/first multiselect ubuntu-desktop ) everything works fine? ( but i get a desktop install.... )  i hav
[08:03] <poyntz> blake: alright i've give this a crach
[08:03] <poyntz> blake: *crack
[08:04] <poyntz> blake: expecting new grub from fresh install to replace old grub
[08:04] <poyntz> blake: and bootloader to point to new grub
[08:04] <iandalton> How can I associate a .pyw file with python in Nautilus?
[08:04] <poyntz> blake: rather than win7 bootloader
[08:04] <poyntz> blake: wish me luck
[08:04] <poyntz> thanks people
[08:04] <maximus_> ...
[08:07] <Scott_S> Zutara: Scartch installation successful by using the .deb installer: https://launchpad.net/~scratch/+archive/ppa/+files/scratch_1.4.0.1-0ubuntu5_i386.deb
[08:08] <billybob> The same pxe boot problem is in 11.10 too
[08:10] <iandalton> And let me just vent: it is completely brain damaged that nautilus no longer has the "open with custom application" option. Bleh.
[08:12] <pnorman> I need to identify which of /dev/ttyS# is the motherboard header pins I just connected. Any suggestions?
[08:12] <Scott_S> iandalton: Currently going to try ubuntu-tweak to try and do what I believe you're trying. One minute.
[08:12] <billybob> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1874027 has the same pxe boot issue ( but he used kickstart to install )
[08:13] <EnigmaticEffigy> Scott_S, It worked, thanks!
[08:13] <Scott_S> EnigmaticEffigy: Good to hear.
[08:18] <Zutara> Scott_S: This is the Scratch EnigmaticEffigy was talking about: https://launchpad.net/scratch
[08:18] <Scott_S> iandalton: Ubuntu Tweak can be used to associate .pyw files with a program or command.
[08:18] <Scott_S> Zutara: This download should work for that: http://launchpad.net/scratch/1.0/1.0/+download/scratch_1.0-0~293~oneiric1_i386.deb
[08:19] <bkerensa> Can someone help me get my audio to work? My laptop internal speakers work fine but when I have external speakers plugged in they do not have any audio and my internel speakers still play any audio?
[08:19] <Scott_S> bkerensa: Generally, you have to set the output to the headphones. You can do this in the Audio Settings.
[08:19] <Zutara> That's the deb he's getting the dependency errors from. I get gconf errors due to only having a 9.10 based OS (Mint 9).
[08:20] <Scott_S> Zutara: I got the same program from that. it appears they are the same thing.
[08:20] <lotus> hello everyone ~ I need some help .
[08:20] <Scott_S> Zutara: Upon attempting to install, the .deb installer responded that there was a newer version already installed (I now have 1.5 installed)
[08:20] <bkerensa> Scott_S: Yeah well its not recognizing the external port at all and I already check Alsamixer... I have had this issue before I just forgot what line I added to alsa to make it work
[08:20] <Scott_S> lotus: What's your question?
[08:21] <lotus> hello everyone ~ I need some help . I want install lotus notes on my computer
[08:21] <lotus> Scott_S:  but I cannot find where to download it
[08:21] <Scott_S> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LotusNotes
[08:21] <Zutara> Scott_S: The scratch he installed look more like a sprite editor than a Text Editor. Sorry if I'm sounding harsh.
[08:22] <lotus> Scott_S:  what shold i say if i leran english badly
[08:22] <peppe__> ciao
[08:23] <Scott_S> Zutara: I wish I could say they were different, but the package maintaner and everything matches up.
[08:24] <Zutara> Hm. Nevermind then. Thanks for all your help.
[08:25] <pietrubens> install DVD ubuntu 11.04: when installing does NOT show option to "install ubuntu alongside windows", shows olny options "install OVER W7" or "other"
[08:25] <a34154ek> anyone running oneric ocelot aka 11.10?
[08:26] <pietrubens> what can i do to get this option?
[08:27] <dr_willis> pietrubens:  its not listed under 'other' ?
[08:27] <Exxon> hi
[08:27] <dr_willis> pietrubens:  it could be you have the max # of parttions allready (4 primary) - i always resize and set things up befor i even start the installer.
[08:27] <lotus> Scott_S:  Can you tell me which one is suitable for ubuntu 11  ?https://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/iwm/web/reg/pick.do?source=ESD-NTSDOMTRL&S_TACT=109HD0PW&S_CMP=web_dw_rt_swd&lang=en_US
[08:28] <pietrubens> @dr_willis, no, it is not listed... how to resize those partitions in W7 in case I have 4?
[08:29] <pietrubens> in others, it just states some partitions (and i think indeed they were 4)
[08:29] <EnigmaticEffigy> These two are different: launchpad.net/scratch and launchpad.net/~scratch   I want launchpad.net/scratch but there are dependency errors
[08:29] <KevIza> hello everybody
[08:29] <KevIza> Can anybody assist me with setting up my OWA account PLEASE?
[08:29] <KevIza> I'm new 2 Ubuntu (11.10)
[08:30] <pietrubens> but it does not state which partition is what and it does not allow resizing, and i do not know where ubuntu will install (i didn't see any indicators, and some partitions are similar in size)
[08:31] <KevIza> ...... Anybody help???
[08:31] <a34154ek> hey I cant find the disk usage analyzer in 11.10. Please help!
[08:31] <somsip_> !anyone | a34154ek
[08:31] <bkerensa> Can someone help me get my audio to work? My laptop internal speakers work fine but when I have external speakers plugged in they do not have any audio and my internel speakers still play any audio?
[08:32] <KevIza> Does anyone/anybody know how I can use thunderbird to access my work's OUTLOOK WEB ACCESS????
[08:32] <KevIza> !anyone
[08:33] <KevIza> !details
[08:33] <soreau> KevIza: see !caps too
[08:33] <KevIza> ok
[08:34] <soreau> a34154ek: To start it from terminal, run palimpsest
[08:35] <KevIza> I have a problems with setting up my work's outlook web access account on thunderbird. I have Ubuntu 11.10 and I cannot get the information configured properly. The login works from my Windows PC, but not my Ubuntu.. message in T-bird states "Thunderbird failed to find the settings for your email account". any help?
[08:35] <KevIza> !caps
[08:35] <KevIza> lol ok
[08:36] <soreau> ! thunderbird | KevIza
[08:36] <a34154ek> soreau: thanks, it works. But still is it not available directly in 11.10? I have looked everywhere
[08:36] <soreau> a34154ek: unity and gnome3 suck
[08:37] <KevIza> thank you soreau I will give it a try
[08:39] <inashdeen> hi, is there a way to make a shutdown box for ubuntu
[08:40] <root> hello
[08:40] <Guest6065> hello everyone
[08:41] <tonyyarusso> inashdeen: what do you mean by a "shutdown box"?
[08:42] <EnigmaticEffigy> I'm trying to install libglib2.0-0_2.28.0-0 but I get this error: Breaks existing package 'libglib2.0-bin' dependency libglib2.0-0 (= 2.26.1-0ubuntu1)  How do I upgrade the old package to the new one?
[08:42] <soreau> KevIza: You might find some useful links here too https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=1152&bih=661&gbv=2&q=thunderbird+setup+outlook&oq=thunderbird+setup+outloo&aq=0v&aqi=g-v1&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=29572l30544l0l31937l6l6l0l2l2l0l292l950l0.1.3l4l0
[08:43] <gemunu> How can I play .wmv files on ubuntu? Smplayer dosn't work :(
[08:43] <devslash> I've got ubuntu running in a vm. how do i determine the partitions uuid?
[08:43] <tonyyarusso> !wmv | gemunu
[08:43] <soreau> EnigmaticEffigy: Tried removing libglib2.0-bin?
[08:44] <inashdeen> tonyyarusso : something like this http://imgur.com/OmjUt
[08:44] <devslash> anyone know ?
[08:44] <EnigmaticEffigy> soreau, If I do that it'll remove all of the applications that depend on it
[08:44] <tonyyarusso> inashdeen: Are you asking how to access the shutdown option?
[08:44] <Exxon> gemunu: use banshee
[08:44] <inashdeen> tonyyarusso : yes
[08:45] <somsip_> devslash: sudo blkid ?
[08:45] <soreau> EnigmaticEffigy: better leave it alone then. Why are you trying to install a different version of glib?
[08:45] <devslash> i can't boot
[08:45] <tonyyarusso> inashdeen: What version of Ubuntu?
[08:45] <inashdeen> tonyyarusso: but using cli
[08:45] <somsip_> devslash: so ask your real question
[08:45] <inashdeen> tonyyarusso : 11.10 but without the unity plugin. i disabled them
[08:45] <tonyyarusso> inashdeen: wait, what?  You showed a GUI, and now you're asking for a command?
[08:45] <EnigmaticEffigy> soreau, Because scratch depends on the new version
[08:45] <inashdeen> tonyyarusso : i want a command to run that gui box
[08:46] <soreau> EnigmaticEffigy: How are you trying to install scratch?
[08:46] <soreau> !info scratch
[08:46] <EnigmaticEffigy> soreau, With terminal with: apt-get scratch
[08:47] <inashdeen> tonyyarusso : [note] i dont have unity plugin. so i need to make a button inside the menu. and how to access log out and lock screen. as you may see, that option is not in that box
[08:47] <devslash> I'm getting an error evms_activate is not available. crypt setup lvm device name (/dev/disk/by-uuid/myuuid). does not begin with /dev/mapper
[08:47] <soreau> !info natty scratch
[08:47] <tonyyarusso> inashdeen: what are you running for a GUI?
[08:47] <soreau> !info scratch natty
[08:47] <devslash> if someone can help me id really appreciate it
[08:47] <soreau> EnigmaticEffigy: Its not in ubuntu repos..
[08:48] <inashdeen> tonyyarusso : that gui? there is an add-on in cairo-dock. but i don't like it like that. i want to add the shutdown option inside the menu itself, using alacarte. so i need to know its command
[08:48] <tonyyarusso> inashdeen: No, back up.  You said you're not using Unity.  So, what are you using?  Gnome-shell?
[08:49] <tonyyarusso> inashdeen: You should already have a button for shutdown, so I'm not sure what you're attempting to accomplish, or more importantly why.
[08:49] <EnigmaticEffigy> soreau, It's in the elementary daily repos: launchpad.net/~elementary-os/+archive/daily
[08:49] <soreau> EnigmaticEffigy: That isnt supported here..
[08:49] <inashdeen> tonyyurasso : i am using cairo-dock, it created its own session without the unity plugin
[08:50] <soreau> EnigmaticEffigy: I dont recommend you try to update glib for scratch
[08:50] <inashdeen> tonyyurasso : basically it is still unity, just with no unity plugin
[08:50] <soreau> EnigmaticEffigy: Instead, see if you can find an older version of scratch
[08:51] <soreau> EnigmaticEffigy: or newer, depending on if its wanting to upgrade or downgrade glib
[08:51] <tonyyarusso> inashdeen: What do you mean by "unity plugin"?  Unity's not a "plugin" to anything - it's an entire interface.
[08:51] <soreau> tonyyarusso: unity is a compiz plugin
[08:52] <EnigmaticEffigy> soreau, I've been trying the newest. They have one for precise, though.
[08:52] <dr_willis> well theres the unity2d version thats not.. :) but thats getting sidetracked..
[08:52] <inashdeen> tonyyarusso : imagine running unity interface, then you go to ccsm, then you untick on unity plugin. that is what basically my system is. or if you dont mind could you open your alacarte and see if the shutdown menu command is there
[08:52] <tonyyarusso> inashdeen: Anyway, it looks like it's gnome-session-quit
[08:52] <soreau> tonyyarusso: In addition, unity has a panel and the shell interface it provides is collectively called unity further confusing the term
[08:52] <devslash> help
[08:52] <tonyyarusso> soreau: right, so where is his panel?
[08:52] <soreau> IMHO, unity does everything opposite of its english definition
[08:53] <inashdeen> tonyyarusso: thanks, but that only gimme the log out. how bout shutdown, restart,lock-screen,etc?and i was thinking of an all-in-one box
[08:53] <soreau> tonyyarusso: I dont know or care ;) try unity --reset or whatever
[08:53] <tonyyarusso> inashdeen: Check the man page.
[08:54] <tonyyarusso> inashdeen: lock screen is done by gnome-screensaver-command
[08:54] <devslash> damn
[08:55] <devslash> i guess i have to delete ubuntu and start all over..
[08:55] <dr_willis> details are handy.
[08:56] <inashdeen> tonyyurasso: thanks , that resolves all my prob except one. restart.read the man, but not sure how to get restart option
[08:57] <auronandace> inashdeen: sudo reboot
[08:58] <gmip> where is config.mk , i am a beginner.
[08:58] <vagothcpp> hey, I have encountered a proble m in Make i have not seen before. "Cannot detect kernel version."
[08:58] <dr_willis> gmip:  what are you trying to do exactly?
[08:58] <soreau> gmip: locate file.name
[08:59] <soreau> vagothcpp: You probably need to install kernel headers
[08:59] <vagothcpp> soreau: i have them installed
[08:59] <soreau> vagothcpp: what are you trying to build?
[09:00] <soreau> ! pm | vagothcpp
[09:02] <vagothcpp> building madwifi-ng
[09:02] <soreau> vagothcpp: madwifi-ng is outdated and no longer needed. It has been replaced by the ath*k drivers which should be already loaded and working by default
[09:03] <vagothcpp> soreau: is it one driver for all atheros? or does it have drivers per model
[09:04] <soreau> vagothcpp: There is ath5k and ath9k. See the output of lsmod|grep ath
[09:08] <vagothcpp> soreau: thankyou for the help
[09:08] <soreau> vagothcpp: No problem
[09:08] <inashdeen> tonyyarusso : just added q. shutdown or reboot require root. how can i do them without root?
[09:08] <tonyyarusso> inashdeen: sudo / gksu?
[09:09] <soreau> inashdeen: You can have certain commands not require sudo..
[09:09] <soreau> Something in /etc/sudoers?
[09:09] <devslash> has anyone used encrypted lvm partitions
[09:09] <inashdeen> soreau : how can shutdown and reboot without root using cli?
[09:10] <Xeocs> well，hi! after i installed x-window-system-core and gnome, i can't get back command line, please help!
[09:10] <inashdeen> tonyyarusso : i want to reboot/shutdown without it prompting me for password
[09:10] <Xeocs> i am using ubuntu server 11.10
[09:11] <soreau> inashdeen: or you might have to setuid it.. cant remember right off hand. Maybe you should try googling this one
[09:12] <os_> Xeocs, you can change tty!
[09:12] <soreau> ! tty | Xeocs
[09:12] <devslash> has anyone used encrypted lvm partitions
[09:13] <soreau> ! anyone | devslash
[09:13] <soreau> ! lvm | devslash
[09:13] <devslash> how do i determine my devices uuid for an encrypted lvm ?
[09:14] <devslash> it just won't boot
[09:14] <Xeocs> ubottu: thank you!
[09:15] <soreau> !botsnack
[09:16] <soreau> ! uuid | devslash
[09:17] <daniel> i can login as guest and get unity but my normal user just gets a file menu at the top :/
[09:17] <Xeocs> soreau:Oops!! Thank you alot!
[09:18] <soreau> ;)
[09:18] <Xeocs> soreau: I didn't know that ubottu is a robot, anyway thank you! ^.^
[09:19] <soreau> Xeocs: youre welcome
[09:23] <FailingLol> Yo does anyone know what to do if I get an input output error whenever i try to install ANY ubuntu version?
[09:23] <KevIza> soreau... i'm still having trouble with the owa access via t-bird. now I have got my owa access information as in server names, mailbox, server host, etc. etc. but i just cannot get somthing right...  may i private message you the information ..?
[09:24] <dr_willis> hd failing or other hw issues
[09:24] <spoq>  ayo
[09:24] <soreau> KevIza: No, I dont know anything about thunderbird, sorry
[09:24] <KevIza> ok.
[09:24] <spoq> i wanna harden my ubuntu security
[09:24] <spoq> browser and ports etc
[09:24] <spoq> any ideas how pls?
[09:25] <KevIza> can anybody assist me with outlook web access configurations via thunderbird please?
[09:26] <dr_willis> spoq:  what services are you running?
[09:26] <spoq> its a pc for personal use
[09:26] <spoq> email/internet browsing/
[09:26] <spoq> stuff like that
[09:27] <devslash> soreau: i booted knoppix but it doesn't have the command blkid
[09:27] <dr_willis> spoq:   then you are being overly paranoid :) no services running.. no ports  to be any danger normally.
[09:27] <spoq> how about browser attacks
[09:27] <soreau> devslash: We support ubuntu here, not knoppix
[09:27] <dr_willis> thats more of a user not doing stupid stuff spoq
[09:27] <devslash> well my boot cd is knoppix
[09:28] <devslash> the distro is ubuntu
[09:28] <spoq> i heard people can get that from legit websites too, i dont click on links ,but still..
[09:28] <dr_willis> spoq:  theres various browser plugins and extensions to  notif you of specific exploits
[09:28] <spoq> such as
[09:28] <soreau> devslash: Again, we do not support non-ubuntu anything here
[09:28] <dr_willis> a bit hard to web surf if you dont click on links.
[09:28] <spoq> i got no-script
[09:28] <dr_willis> check the plugun/extension sites for your browser.
[09:29] <daniel> i can login as guest and get unity but my normal user just gets a file menu at the top :/
[09:29] <KevIza> soreau.. thanks for the help. I will try to find a way to fix my little dilemma.. ciao
[09:30] <dr_willis> daniel:   try making a new user perhaps?
[09:30] <spoq> http://www.gather-network.com/members/piton
[09:30] <soreau> daniel: Maybe try unity --reset while logged in as your normal user
[09:30] <NyanCat> Hello. I have the following problem: i've been running Ubuntu 9.10 and since the upgrade to 11.10 failed i tried to re-install my system using a 11.10 disc. But now any version I try fails installing. It says something with Input Output error and my disc or hard drive might be corrupted. I tried it on 3 diffrent hard drives and i recorded the disk like 5 times but I get the same error every time. What can I do?
[09:30] <daniel> dr_willis: soreau thanks for the suggestions
[09:30] <daniel> let me try
[09:31] <dr_willis> NyanCat:  it could be the optical drive thats the issue.  tried installing from usb. or you can install to the hd from a differnt pc. then move it over
[09:31] <NyanCat> dr_willis: I tried it on diffrent hard drives and diffrent optical drives.
[09:32] <devslash> soreau: ok i booted into a lived and mounted /boot which is not encrypted
[09:32] <NyanCat> dr_willis: My computer can't boot from USB sticks.
[09:32] <dr_willis> NyanCat:  double check cables, had a drive cable with a slight nick once.. took me forever to discover it..  if you got flash drive. try installing to that. as a test
[09:34] <NyanCat> dr_willis: Windows 7 installs without any issues.
[09:35] <dr_willis> NyanCat:  ive had windows install on badhardware befor..  its all in the details.
[09:36] <dr_willis> NyanCat:  try instaling from a live-flash setup. or install to the hd you want to use on a differnt machine and transfer it over. also a Memtest may be a very very good idea
[09:36] <dr_willis> im assuming you did  do a md5sum of the iso files and disks. :)
[09:36] <ignacioortega> alguien habla español?
[09:36] <ignacioortega> tengo una pregunta
[09:36] <NyanCat> Nah
[09:36] <ignacioortega> sobre el foro
[09:36] <ignacioortega> :S
[09:37] <NyanCat> Im re-downloading the image...
[09:37] <NyanCat> How can I boot from a USB drive when my BIOS is not able to boot from USB devices?
[09:38] <dr_willis> then you go to the other plan.. install on a differnt machine and move the hd over..
[09:39] <dr_willis> OR install to a flash drive from a cd. and see if that works..
[09:39] <dr_willis> you are running windos 7 on a machine thats so old  - it cant boot from usb?
[09:41] <devslash> i give up
[09:41] <devslash> this is crazy
[09:42] <NyanCat> No the PC is like 3-4 Years old
[09:42] <NyanCat> it was with Windows Vista pre-installed
[09:42] <devslash> UGH
[09:42] <soreau> NyanCat: It probably can boot from usb, you are just doing it wrong
[09:42] <dr_willis> im suprised it cant boot from usb. double check its bios settings.
[09:42] <spoq> thats weird
[09:43] <NyanCat> I did... where i set the boot sequence theres no external device option
[09:43] <soreau> NyanCat: On mine, it only shows the option in the boot menu if there is a valid bootable usb stick plugged in
[09:43] <NyanCat> onlt HDD, Floppy drive and CD drive
[09:43] <skilz> Whats a good basic lightweight dock?
[09:43] <dr_willis> ive also got machines where you can hit F8 or some other F key and it will pop up a menu what hd to boot.
[09:43] <dr_willis> !dock
[09:44] <NyanCat> I'm gonna try the USB method im gonna boot it using a BIOS extension
[09:45] <plotino> hi everybody
[09:45] <NyanCat> hullo
[09:45] <os_> hello
[09:46] <plotino> do you know what is typical signal level at headphone output?
[09:46] <dr_willis> signel level meaning?
[09:46] <bittyx-laptop> i've googled a bit and couldn't find the information i was looking for - which versions of apache httpd, php, and mysql ship with ubuntu 11.10?
[09:47] <DrGamut> Anyone experienced this, every time my screen locks and the display is put to sleep, upon returning instead of seeing the lock screen with the password prompt I just see solid blocks of color where there were Windows active and the desktop background isn't present.
[09:47] <bittyx-laptop> (or if you could just point me where i can find that info)
[09:47] <os_> bittyx-laptop,  you can find it on distrowatch !
[09:47] <oCean> bittyx-laptop: try at packages.ubuntu.com
[09:47] <dr_willis> bittyx-laptop:  the disrtowatch web site normally has details on each release in a nice table.
[09:47] <plotino> db or volt
[09:48] <soreau> bittyx-laptop: packages.ubuntu.com
[09:49] <plotino> dr_willis, db or volts
[09:50] <bittyx-laptop> oh, just checked those, both are awesome with info. no idea why i couldn't find them. thanks a lot all of you.
[09:50] <d1360> Userlist
[09:51] <d1360> userList
[09:51] <Varazir> When I try to link a script I get "invalid tab size"  ln -s -T target/foo.sh foo_name
[09:54] <soreau> Varazir: Why are you using -T?
[09:55] <fgiw> how can I get a nice hi-res spashscreen when using fglrx
[09:55] <fgiw> ?
[09:55] <soreau> fgiw: Only radeon supports kms
[09:56] <arcsky> guys why does so many says linux minut is the new ubuntu ?
[09:56] <bkerensa> Anyone know how to fix Unity Launcher? :) For some reason it stopped loading during login on Unity 3d
[09:56] <Varazir> soreau: I lik eto creat a link to my script in rc6.d /
[09:57] <rodhash> Hello guys, in my new Oneiric the graphics is not so smooth.. before the upgrade (in maverick) it was fine..
[09:57] <soreau> Varazir: Try without -T
[09:57] <rodhash> rodhash@rod-t400:~$ glxinfo | grep direct
[09:57] <rodhash> direct rendering: Yes
[09:57] <rodhash> any idea why it's happening?
[09:57] <soreau> rodhash: That doesnt mean anything since you can have direct rendering with software rasterizer
[09:57] <soreau> rodhash: instead, grep for renderer
[09:58] <plotino> so, the signal level of headphone output from a soundblaster is not standard?
[09:58] <fgiw> soreau: OK, so it's not possible... too bad, hi-res virtual terminals are probably not possible as well then...
[09:59] <rodhash> rodhash@rod-t400:~$ glxinfo | grep render
[09:59] <rodhash> direct rendering: Yes
[09:59] <rodhash> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel® GM45 Express Chipset x86/MMX/SSE2
[09:59] <rodhash>     GL_EXT_vertex_array_bgra, GL_NV_conditional_render,
[10:00] <FloodBot1> rodhash: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:00] <soreau> rodhash: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file to pastebin.com
[10:00] <fgiw> I also wonder if anyone present is using ubuntu in EFI-mode
[10:01] <Varazir> soreau: then I get another error ls: cannot access C10pxecopy: No such file or directory
[10:01] <fgiw> i have some issues with efibootmgr bricking my EFI probably by overflowing the space available for variables
[10:01] <theadmin> fgiw: Did you install grub-efi?
[10:01] <dr_willis> high res framebuffer consoles :)
[10:02] <rodhash> soreau, that helps?
[10:02] <rodhash> soreau, Oh, I'm actually monitoring my Xorg.0.log, there's no error
[10:03] <Varazir> sorry wrong command
[10:03] <fgiw> theadmin: yes, booting is fine, i have just noticed when i add too many (>3 or just editing a few times maybe) EFI boot manager entries i cannot add any more even when I delete entries, also i cannot save some settings in the 'BIOS'-interface then
[10:03] <soreau> rodhash: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file
[10:03] <rodhash> soreau, There was only one error:
[10:03] <rodhash> [   531.140] (WW) Touch X valuator does not match pointer X valuator, pointer emulation may be incorrect
[10:03] <soreau> rodhash: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file
[10:03] <fgiw> same thing happens with openSUSE, I have not tested the windows editor for EFI boot manager yet, but I suppose it's just a firmware issue for my computer
[10:04] <Varazir> soreau: got it to work
[10:04] <fgiw> but I wonder if other EFI-users have run into the same symptoms
[10:05] <rodhash> soreau, done!! --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/750127/
[10:07] <like_summer> 、请教一个问题，我在vm下安装ubuntu ，安装到输入用户名和密码，但是后面怎么不出现桌面呢
[10:08] <soreau> rodhash: Try without xorg.conf
[10:08] <rodhash> soreau, Sorry, what do you mean??
[10:09] <soreau> rodhash: I mean rename or move /etc/X11/xorg.conf and log out then log back in
[10:09] <rodhash> soreau, why? is it to create another xorg.conf ?
[10:10] <soreau> rodhash: No, you dont need one at all
[10:10] <soreau> rodhash: I suspect some setting may be causing undesirable results
[10:11] <rodhash> soreau, Ok, got it... I'll try...
[10:11] <Data_X> Xxchat
[10:11] <Data_X> oop's sorry
[10:11] <Kruptein> Hey I have problems logging in to ubuntu, after I insert my login information nothing happens anymore I just get the default purple background with a slightly lighter purple color to the left where the unity panel normaly should be..
[10:11] <rodhash> soreau, Should I stop/start gdm or just logout / login??
[10:12] <fgiw> No one using EFI/having issues with?
[10:12] <soreau> rodhash: logging out is good enough
[10:13] <eni23> hello at all. i got a problem with my notebook and bluetooz
[10:14] <Klojum> be little more specific, eni23
[10:15] <PhoenixSTF> morning
[10:15] <eni23> i can see the buletooh-icon in 11.04 but hciconfig shows me no device & if i activate bluetooth in the system settings the wlan is being deactivated. lsusb shows me no bluetooth device..
[10:15] <Klojum> mawning
[10:16] <soreau> rodhash: Now can you show the output of glxinfo|grep renderer ?
[10:16] <rodhash> yes
[10:16] <bittyx-laptop> i have a few HDDs and a problem with partitions on one of them. it's /dev/sda (500GiB). /dev/sda1 (ntfs) is System Reserved (windows partition), /dev/sda2 (ntfs, 100GiB) is where i have windows installed. /dev/sda3 is an extended partition of ~368GiB, containing /dev/sda5 (ext4, ~46GiB, mount point is root, this is where i have ubuntu installed), /dev/sda6 (ext4, ~46GiB, mount point is /home), then 270GiB of unallocated space, and finally /dev/
[10:16] <bittyx-laptop> sda7 (linux-swap, 3.72GiB)
[10:17] <bittyx-laptop> my problem is, i'd like to formatt the unallocated 270GiB into an ntfs partition available from windows
[10:17] <rodhash> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel® GM45 Express Chipset x86/MMX/SSE2
[10:17] <rodhash> GL_EXT_vertex_array_bgra, GL_NV_conditional_render,
[10:17] <bittyx-laptop> but since it's a part of the extended /dev/sda3, windows has trouble even recognizing the unallocated space. i've tried formatting it to ntfs from ubuntu, but of course, windows doesn't see it
[10:17] <rodhash> soreau, It's the same..
[10:18] <soreau> rodhash: Well it looks the same and I guess its fine. What is slower exactly?
[10:18] <Klojum> bittyx-laptop: why not use a GParted Live cd/usb boot session?
[10:18] <bittyx-laptop> would you recommend moving the linux-swap partition (/dev/sda7) from the end of the HDD to just after /dev/sda6, and resizing the extended /dev/sda3 so that the unallocated space appears after it, rather than as part of it?
[10:18] <rodhash> soreau, It occurs when I'm moving a window like a directory, text file, etc
[10:19] <soreau> rodhash: That is a bug in compiz/unity
[10:19] <bittyx-laptop> or is it better to move /dev/sda5 and /dev/sda6 (/ and /home) near the end (leaving linux-swap at the very end of the HDD), and reallocated the space in between as ntfs?
[10:19] <bittyx-laptop> Klojum: i'm asking for advice on where to put my partitions/how to move them
[10:19] <bittyx-laptop> Klojum: i'll run gparted from an ubuntu livecd
[10:19] <Kruptein> Hey I can't login anymore :|
[10:19] <rodhash> soreau, I mean, when I click in the title bar and move it.... I'm using compiz with xfce, not gnome or unity
[10:20] <soreau> rodhash: Yes, compiz bug. It should be fine with xfwm4
[10:20] <bittyx-laptop> is it some kind of good practice (or maybe even a necessity) to have linux-swap at the end of the HDD?
[10:21] <soreau> bittyx-laptop: Not really
[10:21] <Klojum> swap is used contantly, i would put it at the front
[10:21] <dr_willis> bittyx-laptop:  i dont think it matters much these days.
[10:21] <Klojum> constantly... ;-)
[10:21] <dr_willis> 'if' swap is being used.. :)
[10:21] <dr_willis> of course   - if swap is being used a lot.. it would be best to buy moar ramz
[10:21] <dr_willis> :)
[10:22] <dr_willis> total       used       free
[10:22] <bittyx-laptop> okay, thanks for the answers. i just wanted to make sure i don't break something before i repartition my hdd
[10:22] <dr_willis> Swap:       511996         56     511940
[10:22] <Kruptein> :(
[10:22] <dr_willis> using 56mb of swap for some reason.
[10:22] <RoadsterGT> hey
[10:23] <RoadsterGT> where is grub config file at?
[10:23] <szal> RoadsterGT: Grub1 or Grub2?
[10:23] <RoadsterGT> 2
[10:23] <dr_willis> hmm.. free -m says im not using any  :) must be rounding issues
[10:23] <dr_willis> !grub2
[10:23] <dr_willis>  /etc/default/grub is normally what one edits
[10:24] <RoadsterGT> kk
[10:24] <Kruptein> someone else having problems logging in to ubuntu?
[10:24] <szal> RoadsterGT: /boot/grub/grub.cfg <- and no, you DON'T edit that file directly, you edit /etc/default/grub and run 'update-grub' as root
[10:24] <soreau> dr_willis: How did you get that swap output?
[10:24] <RoadsterGT> szal, k thats what i need
[10:25] <neo> Hi all
[10:25] <neo> how come ls --color doesn
[10:25] <neo> 't work in 11.10
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> neo: try hitting ENTER less, works great
[10:26] <soreau> ActionParsnip: it was an accident
[10:26] <Guest75793> ActionParsnip: Thanks for pointing that out
[10:26] <soreau> Guest75793: Maybe there is an alias in $HOME/.bash* somewhere
[10:26] <dr_willis> free -m
[10:27] <Kruptein> yay ActionParsnip =D you always were able to help me in the past, you might be able to help me again ^^
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> Neo: works here, its also in the man pages
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> Kruptein: sup
[10:27] <soreau> dr_willis: Swap:         1906          0       1905
[10:27] <zaffy> That's usually in .bashrc file
[10:27] <soreau> dr_willis: So apparently its using something here too
[10:27] <Kruptein> ActionParsnip: I can't login,  after I insert my username/password  the login screen goes away but the default purple background stays and nothing happens
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> Kruptein: what if you choose the Unity2D session?
[10:28] <soreau> but < 1, not 56 ;)
[10:28] <rodhash> soreau, ok, thank you
[10:28] <Asmer> soreau: Hmm... I've installed a "clean" 11.10.. just took a backup of all the ".*" folders... could I have removed something I'm in need of?
[10:28] <dr_willis> Swap:          499          0        499
[10:28] <soreau> Asmer: huh?
[10:28] <Asmer> soreau: Changed nick from neo
[10:28] <soreau> dr_willis: damn, you win
[10:29] <soreau> Asmer: ah..
[10:29] <Asmer> soreau: Color problem with ls --color.. no colors
[10:29] <dr_willis> free -m and free  show differnt #'s
[10:29] <dr_willis> Asmer:  check your TERM setting.
[10:29] <Asmer> dr_willis: where ?
[10:29] <soreau> Asmer: grep -Rn ls $HOME/.bash*
[10:29] <dr_willis> echo $TERM
[10:29] <soreau> Asmer: See if that shows anything of interest
[10:30] <Asmer> soreau: I've only got .bash_history
[10:30] <dr_willis> and see what 'alias ls' shows
[10:30] <dr_willis> alias ls='ls --color=auto'
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> Asmer: what if you run: source ~/.bashrc
[10:30] <Asmer> decoder: I know there's no aliases on this system
[10:30] <rodhash> soreau, Just one more question, why I do not need a xorg.conf file ?
[10:30] <dr_willis> Asmer:  thats why theres no ls color then.. if you dont have that alias setup
[10:31] <dr_willis> rodhash:  X has auto configured for the most part  for some time now. (several years)
[10:31] <soreau> rodhash: Because X is smart enough to know what drivers to load for the devices it detects and auto-configure them
[10:31] <Asmer> dr_willis: I'm calling "ls --color" explicitly
[10:31] <dr_willis> Asmer:  and your TERM setting is what?
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> Asmer: does my command help?
[10:31] <Asmer> aaah... I have to specify the "auto" as well
[10:31] <Asmer> hehe
[10:31] <soreau> rodhash: The only time you need an xorg.conf is for some special setup or if you are using a proprietary driver
[10:32] <rodhash> dr_willis, soreau, thank you
[10:32] <Asmer> I feel like a n00b now
[10:32] <szal> Asmer: wrong syntax, it's "ls --color=$VALUE", valid strings for $VALUE should be in the help
[10:32] <yellabs> how well do these usb soun speakers work with ubuntu ?
[10:32] <yellabs> sound
[10:32] <soreau> Asmer: So you could create an alias.. possibly grab the default files from a live session
[10:32] <ssta> --color=auto is the standard
[10:32] <Asmer> szal: soreau: dr_willis: Heh... yep.. found out :)
[10:33] <bittyx-laptop> okay, i've started gparted from my ubuntu livecd (11.04). again, i can see /dev/sda3 (extended, 368.10GiB), which contains /dev/sda5 (ext4, 46GiB, my root folder), /dev/sda6 (ext4, 46GiB, /home), unallocated (271GiB) and /dev/sda7 (linux-swap, 3.72GiB). but /dev/sda3 and /dev/sda7 both have a key icon next to them (meaning "locked", i assume), so i can't resize/move them
[10:33] <Kruptein> ActionParsnip okay I'm currently using windows to find out what I can do so I try to get as much info as possible now :D  so what If I'm able to login to unity2D will it work again in 3D later?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> Asmer: if you run: sudo -i      then run:  cp /root/.bashrc /home/username; chown username:username /home/usernae/.bashrc    it may help
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> Asmer: ou'll need to uncomment the last 3 lines so that TAB completion works
[10:34] <bittyx-laptop> is there anything i can do here, so as to move the unallocated space outside of the /dev/sda3 partition? ie. resize /dev/sda3 to be 368-271GiB and move the /dev/sda5, /dev/sda6 and /dev/sda7 partitions to be next to each other?
[10:34] <soreau> yellabs: I have a usb headset with mic that works great. it all depends on the device and whether or not it has a driver in the kernel for it. Most devices should JustWork [TM]
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> Kruptein: it means your video card isn't doing 3D stuff just yet whioch unity needs
[10:34] <Asmer> ActionParsnip: Hmm... has tab completion been disabled by default now?
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> Asmer: as I said, uncomment the last 3 lines
[10:34] <Kruptein> ActionParsnip: I've been using the 3D unity since 10.10 ;)
[10:34] <Kruptein> it just broke yesterdat :D
[10:34] <yellabs> okey
[10:34] <Kruptein> *yesterday
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> Kruptein: may be a things to investigate
[10:35] <soreau> Kruptein: It didnt exist in 10.10
[10:35] <soreau> Kruptein: debut in 11.04
[10:35] <Kruptein> soreau: hm so what did unity use in 10.10? :D
[10:35] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4_> hi
[10:35] <AdhamSabry> how can I show userlist in xchat?
[10:36] <soreau> Kruptein: It wasnt unity, the default was compiz 0.8
[10:36] <dr_willis> AdhamSabry:  normally ytheres a list at the right side. ive seen where it gets resized to not show. move mouse around on teh right side and see if you can expand it.
[10:36] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4_> can anyone help me plz?
[10:36] <AdhamSabry> I can't thank you
[10:36] <AdhamSabry> dr_willis
[10:36] <AdhamSabry> it was hidden
[10:37] <Kruptein> soreau: oh yeah I got confused I thought we were now 11.04 :D and I knew unit was there for two releases xD so 11.04 and 11.10 actually :|
[10:37] <soreau> AdhamSabry: view>userlist
[10:37] <dr_willis> no idea why it does that every so often to people
[10:37] <Asmer> ActionParsnip: I didn't have to uncomment the lines actually. Tab completion works fine with just the default file.
[10:37] <Kruptein> ActionParsnip: yeah that's why I came here :D  but I just don't know what to investigate :)   I tried to apt-get update and upgrade but that didn't help :s
[10:37] <soreau> dr_willis: probably keyboard shortcut
[10:37] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4_> root@St4rG4t3~# sudo gedit /etc/hostname
[10:37] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4_> ** (gedit:13023): CRITICAL **: gedit_spell_checker_language_to_key: assertion `lang != NULL' failed
[10:37] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4_> ** (gedit:13023): CRITICAL **: gedit_spell_checker_language_to_key: assertion `lang != NULL' failed
[10:37] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4_> root@St4rG4t3~# sudo gedit /etc/hosts
[10:37] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4_> No protocol specified
[10:37] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4_> (gedit:13050): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0
[10:37] <FloodBot1> m41nfr4m3-ninj4_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:37] <dr_willis> a user list in this channel is almost useless. :) too many people.
[10:37] <soreau> dr_willis: Ctrl+F7
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> m41nfr4m3-ninj4_: use gksudo with gedit, and for multiple lines use a pastebin
[10:37] <dr_willis> m41nfr4m3-ninj4_:  you are logged in as user under x? or what exactly?
[10:38] <soreau> dr_willis: It is useful for other channels.. it isnt a per-channel feature afaik
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> m41nfr4m3-ninj4_: are you connected via SSH?
[10:38] <Data_X> This might not be the chan to ask this in.. But I'm going to ask...  How do I make a chan on here?
[10:38] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4_> i did the command properly to change my hostname and when i go to change the etc/hosts file i cant
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> Asmer: you can copy the one from /root and it will be default except the change, may help
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> Data_X: just join it
[10:38] <bittyx-laptop> okay, once again - i've booted the ubuntu 11.04 livecd and started gparted. my 2 linux-swap partitions (on two different HDDs) both show as locked and i can't do anything with them (resize/move/delete/whatever). information shows their status as Active.
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> Data_X: if it doesn't exist it will be spawned
[10:39] <Asmer> ActionParsnip: Thanks :)
[10:39] <bittyx-laptop> how do i unlock them?
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> bittyx-laptop: are they mounted?
[10:39] <bittyx-laptop> ActionParsnip: no. i've literally just booted into the livecd and started gparted
[10:39] <soreau> Asmer: If you do copy something from /root to your home directory, you probably should chown it to your user
[10:39] <Data_X> How do I make a chan here on xChat?
[10:40] <soreau> Data_X: /j #yourchanname
[10:40] <Data_X> ok
[10:40] <bittyx-laptop> ActionParsnip: well, actually, i have no idea whether they are mounted. but i wouldn't expect them to be
[10:40] <Data_X> I'll try
[10:40] <Data_X> brb if it don't work..
[10:40] <bittyx-laptop> ActionParsnip: anyway, i've just selected "Swapoff" from gparted on the linux-swap partition, and it's okay now (not locked anymore)
[10:40] <soreau> Data_X: #freenode for specifics to get it setup
[10:40] <Gentoo64> it will work if its not taken
[10:40] <bittyx-laptop> ActionParsnip: so i think that solves my problem.
[10:42] <vkkr> hello
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> bittyx-laptop: sweet
[10:43] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4_> http://pastebin.com/unNdRX59
[10:43] <Gentoo64> vkkr, hi
[10:43] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4_> please look http://pastebin.com/unNdRX59
[10:43] <Data_X> It's leting me make one.. but somethings going very wrong..
[10:43] <republic> m41nfr4m3-ninj4_, do you run ubuntu in a mainframe?
[10:43] <Asmer> Ehm... feeling stupid now... how do I scroll in irssi?
[10:44] <Gentoo64> m41nfr4m3-ninj4_, are you in x?
[10:44] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4_> no republic
[10:44] <Asmer> Ehm... nevermind :$
[10:44] <llutz> Asmer: pgup/pgdown
[10:44] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4_> in x what?
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> m41nfr4m3-ninj4_: are you connected via SSH?
[10:44] <Gentoo64> you need X for gedit
[10:44] <glaci> hi all! how is it possible: my /home uses only 50 GB space, but I have just 40 GB free space on my partition (250 GB).  can anyone help me?
[10:44] <Gentoo64> otherwise use vim or nano whatever
[10:44] <Kruptein> ActionParsnip did you answer me ? I went offline for some minutes :|
[10:44] <os_> m41nfr4m3-ninj4_, X11
[10:45] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4_> did anyone read my pastebin?
[10:45] <Gentoo64> yes
[10:45] <Asmer> soreau: Yeah... I know :) Thanks for pointing out though.
[10:45] <Gentoo64> are you in X?
[10:45] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4_> ok so gedit works
[10:45] <os_> m41nfr4m3-ninj4_, you can edit with nano without GUI
[10:45] <Asmer> Is there any way to filder the lines where my nick is? Using IRSSI?
[10:45] <Gentoo64> Asmer, yes
[10:45] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4_> sudo nano /etc/hosts?
[10:46] <Gentoo64> Asmer, it should do by default (hilight their name when they manyion your nick)
[10:46] <Gentoo64> m41nfr4m3-ninj4_, try that yea
[10:46] <Gentoo64> see if it works
[10:46] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4_> ok thnx
[10:46] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4_> brb Gentoo64
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> m41nfr4m3-ninj4_: yes, I suggest you open another terminal and open /etc/hostname too
[10:46] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4_> ok
[10:46] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4_> thnx ActionParsnip
[10:47] <Asmer> Gentoo64: Yeah... but say I've been afk for a while, and when returning I want to see who's been sending me messages, and nothing else.. is there a way to display only those lines.
[10:47] <dr_willis> glaci:  you may want to pastebin the outut of 'sudo fdisk -l' for the channe. and the output of 'mount'  and 'df -h'
[10:47] <dr_willis> Asmer:  irssi has scrips that can put those msgs in their own window.
[10:47] <fgiw> theadmin: you use EFI too?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> m41nfr4m3-ninj4_: if you connect via SSH and don't use -X or do not have an X server running on the client, you won't be able to run graphical apps
[10:48] <Asmer> dr_willis: Hmm... interesting. Care to point me in the right direction?
[10:48] <dr_willis> Asmer:  the irssi homepage and docs.. i use weechat these days
[10:48] <ParkerR> How has it been ActionParsnip ?
[10:48] <Gentoo64> Asmer: what i do is have the whole line hilighted in a color whenever someone mentions my nick
[10:48] <Gentoo64> that way i cantm iss it
[10:49] <Gentoo64> by default i think its just their user name that gets hilughted
[10:49] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4_> im on the x server
[10:49] <dr_willis> weechat has a libnotify script that puts any msg in a notification bubble for me. :)
[10:49] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4_> im in nano
[10:49] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4_> brb
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> Kruptein: does Unity2D work?
[10:50] <Asmer> Gentoo64: Sure.. that's OK when being in front of the PC :)
[10:51] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4_> how do i save changes in nano?
[10:51] <Gentoo64> ctrl X then Y
[10:51] <Asmer> m41nfr4m3-ninj4_: Why use nano?
[10:51] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4_> ty Gentoo64
[10:51] <glaci> dr_willis: http://pastebin.com/1vYWJmKd
[10:51] <Gentoo64> because it works and gedit dont
[10:51] <dr_willis> they really need to replace nano with somthing more obvious.
[10:51] <Gentoo64> dr_willis: it is obvious :S
[10:52] <Gentoo64> cant get easier than nano
[10:52] <dr_willis> Gentoo64:  ive had tio explain to dozens of people that ^ = control
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> m41nfr4m3-ninj4_: CTRL+X, ENTER, Then Y
[10:52] <szal> Ctrl+o saves, Ctrl+x exits..  should all be on the lower end of the screen, if you can read, you have a clear advantage ^^
[10:52] <Asmer> I prefer VI over nano
[10:52] <dr_willis> Gentoo64:  so its Not obvious
[10:52] <elgaton> Gentoo64: There is the graphical version of mped for example
[10:52] <Gentoo64> dr_willis: yeah but you have to learn
[10:52] <elgaton> Gentoo64: err, the textual one
[10:52] <dr_willis> i saw some simple editor that had nice obvious "F2: save"  but i forget its name
[10:52] <fgiw> dr_willis: just use vi if nano is too unintuitive
[10:52] <Gentoo64> tbh i think ctrl x makes sense
[10:52] <Gentoo64> compare than to vim :x
[10:52] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4_> thank you now i can reboot right?
[10:53] <fgiw> FreeBSD's edit is very simple as well by the way
[10:53] <dr_willis> I saw some clone of the dos edit  somewhere...
[10:53] <dr_willis> the issue is that beginners dont even know that ^ = control.. now if nano had a splash screen that mentioned that fact....
[10:53] <ssta> "ed"?
[10:54] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4_> Thank you guys for your help
[10:54] <Gentoo64> dr_willis: just saying, once you learn how to save in nano its easy. you can pull commands out of nowhere without learnign first :)
[10:54] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4_> ALL of you
[10:54] <Gentoo64> cant*
[10:54] <Gentoo64> m41nfr4m3-ninj4_: works?
[10:54] <zaffy> Why F2 should be obvious?
[10:54] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4_> im about to reboot
[10:54] <dr_willis> the initial nano screen should show what the Ctrl-g help shows..
[10:54] <Asmer> dr_willis: heh... true. All text-based editors have to be used a while to get accustomed to
[10:54] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4_> both files have been changed
[10:54] <Gentoo64> zaffy: maybe it says at the top or something "f2 to save"
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> zaffy: CTRL+O is used to write (o)ut the buffer to the file
[10:55] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4_> yea nano works Gentoo64
[10:55] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4_> brb
[10:55] <Asmer> Nice thing about vi/vim is that it's almow always available
[10:55] <Asmer> In some form or the other...
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> zaffy: F2 is exit :)
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> http://geeksterminal.com/nano-text-editor-commands/
[10:55] <Asmer> At least on any *nix
[10:55] <dr_willis> mc edit is easier to understand.. if it had "F1' at the bottom instead of just '1 help' :)
[10:56] <Gentoo64> its preference, i like vim too but a lot of pro people use nano still
[10:56] <Asmer> What about emacs?
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> Can press F3 to save, then F2 to exit :)
[10:56] <dr_willis> fte is a fun text editor also.. if its still in the repos.
[10:56] <dr_willis> !info fte
[10:56] <Gentoo64> Asmer: i dont like it
[10:57] <Gentoo64> the editor debate could go on forever lol
[10:57]  * dr_willis makes a nano plugin for emacs
[10:57]  * lupine_85 pats gedit
[10:58] <Asmer> Gentoo64: Yep... but it's important though. I've been programming Perl and Python a LOT, and the tool I'm using is important from day to day
[10:58] <Gentoo64> i wish gedit was as light as leafpad
[10:58] <dr_willis> Asmer:  check out geany then
[10:58] <Gentoo64> Asmer: yeah, but there isnt one definitive editor, you use what you like the best :) same goes for everything basivally
[10:59] <shomon> hi, is there an ubuntu based distro with more stuff on it, so as to fit on a dvd rom? got a laptop with no harddrive you see.. So I'm trying to see if I can just boot from CD for a bit
[10:59] <Asmer> Gentoo64: Couldn't aggree more
[10:59] <glaci> hi all! how is it possible: my /home uses only 50 GB space, but I have just 40 GB free space on my partition (250 GB).  can anyone help me? http://pastebin.com/1vYWJmKd
[10:59] <fgiw> no one with uefi issues?
[10:59] <dr_willis> shomon:  theres various loaded-remix's of ubuntu. but i cant think of any names.
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> shomon: the install DVD has a lot more apps on the disk for offline use
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> fgiw: i don't use it, so no uefi issue here
[10:59] <dr_willis> shomon:  you could alwyas set up a live-usb or even do a normal install to a usb flash drive
[10:59] <Gentoo64> shomon: linux mint afaik has all the codecs and that so its slightly more
[10:59] <shomon> ah okay, I've just copied a regular ubuntu to a DVD, it's just so as to get bigger stuff like Open Office
[10:59] <zaffy> Right. I'm used to edit files over slow network, so I'm used to vi. It's just a choice
[11:00] <shomon> aah okay, is mint ubuntu based?
[11:00] <Gentoo64> yeah
[11:00] <Gentoo64> i think so anyway
[11:00] <shomon> aah a live usb install, cool
[11:00] <shomon> I'll see about that too... If the laptop permits, it's pretty old
[11:01] <Gentoo64> shomon: how much ram has it got?
[11:01] <elgaton> glaci: Try to run "sudo apt-get clean" to clear the cache of installed packages
[11:01] <dr_willis> my main ubuntu system is running from a 32gb flash drive
[11:02] <Gentoo64> dr_willis: why? lol
[11:02] <Gentoo64> your main one? :s
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> shomon: yes but its offtopic and not supported here
[11:02] <dr_willis> so i can move it around.
[11:02] <glaci> elgaton: thanks
[11:02] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> m41nfr4m3-ninj4@Int3llig3nc3~$
[11:02] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4>  :D
[11:02] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> THANK YOU SOOOOOOO MUCH U GUYZ
[11:02] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> or girls
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: gonna get me a cotton candy PC for the same reason, looks awesome :)
[11:02] <elgaton> glaci: You're welcome
[11:02] <Gentoo64> m41nfr4m3-ninj4: so leet lol
[11:02] <Gentoo64> xbox live gamer?
[11:02] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> lol
[11:02] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> me?
[11:02] <fgiw> ActionParsnip: hmmm too bad, bu I should probably just not be using weird useless things like UEFI anyway
[11:03] <dr_willis> ActionParsnip:  yea. seen those  waiting for them to get avail. :)
[11:03] <Gentoo64> yeah lol
[11:03] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> no
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> m41nfr4m3-ninj4: you need to edit both files or you'll get issues :)
[11:03] <Asmer> dr_willis: I tried opening a C++ file in geany, and it didn't register correctly.. hehe
[11:03] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> i did ActionParsnip
[11:03] <glaci> elgaton: but unfortunately I got only 400 MB free space:(
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: damn right, very excited
[11:03] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> etc/hosts and /etc/hostname
[11:03] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> thnk you
[11:03] <elgaton> glaci: Well... make sure /tmp is clean, then go into /var/log and clear old logs, uninstall software you don't need anymore
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> glaci: uninstall old kernels, also use bleachbit to clear space but avoid options saying they will take a long time and watch your options or you will remove stuff you want
[11:04] <elgaton> That may help
[11:04] <xauth> glaci: du -xa / | xdu
[11:04] <elgaton> ActionParsnip: Thanks, I forgot about old kernels
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> glaci: run it as your user and root, it will have 2 instances in your menu
[11:04] <Gentoo64> does ubuntu not stor packages in a cache when downloaded?
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> each kernel is about 120Mb so can save a lot of space
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> Gentoo64: nice!
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> glaci: also run:  sudo apt-get clean   to delete the old update packages
[11:05] <dr_willis>   /var/cache/apt/
[11:05] <Gentoo64> yeah rm -rf that
[11:05] <dr_willis> err.. no use the apt-cache clean and remove options
[11:05] <Gentoo64> or that
[11:05] <dr_willis> dont just remove the directory with rm -rf
[11:06] <dr_willis> :
[11:06] <Gentoo64> why?
[11:06] <dr_willis> you can break apt
[11:06] <Gentoo64> rm -rf /var/cache/apt/*
[11:06] <Asmer> dr_willis: the "symbols" tab wouldn't register all my functions.. Seems a bit strange.
[11:06] <dr_willis> Gentoo64:  that can break apt...
[11:06] <Gentoo64> really?
[11:06] <dr_willis> YES.
[11:06] <Gentoo64> my bad
[11:06] <dr_willis> thats why i have been saying to not do it ....
[11:07] <Gentoo64> why would important stuff be there?
[11:07] <Gentoo64> dont apt-get clean just clean old pakckages?
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> Gentoo64: easier to use apt-get to clean itself :)
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> Gentoo64: it can, if you run:  sudo apt-get autoclean    it will always clean itself after installs
[11:07] <Gentoo64> ah ok
[11:08] <Gentoo64> sorry for the bad advice
[11:08] <Gentoo64> :)
[11:08] <chadwick> heyy guys
[11:09] <sulzi> servus
[11:09] <chadwick> sulzi
[11:09] <chadwick> think u can help me out??
[11:10] <chadwick> oor anyone?
[11:10] <sulzi> waht is u problem
[11:10] <chadwick> i just installed ubuntu for the first time, never used it before
[11:10] <chadwick> anyways i like it so far.. trying to get the hang of it
[11:10] <XeonBloomfield> Welcome
[11:11] <chadwick> but i tripple booted my macbook PRO.. i installed windows 7, then ubuntu 111.10
[11:11] <chadwick> 11.10*
[11:11] <XeonBloomfield> Where can I find script which is run during "service mysql start"?
[11:11] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> can anyon tell me what this means please? http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/4823/vmbb.jpg
[11:11] <chadwick> after i installed ubuntu, i realized i could not boot back intow windows 7
[11:11] <Htbaa> /etc/init.d/mysqld
[11:11] <Gentoo64> XeonBloomfield: /etc/init.d/mysql?
[11:11] <chadwick> when i try to boot in windows it just brings me to a black screen
[11:11] <sulzi> you have to fix your MBR
[11:12] <chadwick> well i did go to my command prompt
[11:12] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> lol chadwick i was gonna say "hoed u get THAT version of ubuntu lmfao
[11:12] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> howd*
[11:12] <XeonBloomfield> Gentoo64: I found that, but I mean to say that "what arguments it is passing to it?"
[11:12] <glebihan> XeonBloomfield, Htbaa, Gentoo64 : /etc/init/mysql.conf
[11:12] <sulzi> read the manpages to set up your bootmanager
[11:12] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> @ 111.10
[11:12] <Gentoo64> XeonBloomfield: oh ok, dno
[11:13] <Asmer> Bye all
[11:13] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> bye Asmer
[11:13] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> have a good one
[11:13] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> night/day
[11:13] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> CAN ANY1 TELL ME ABOUT THIS PLEASE?? http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/4823/vmbb.jpg
[11:14] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> FATAL error
[11:14] <Htbaa> no init.d script of mysql is /etc/init.d/mysql
[11:14] <Asmer> m41nfr4m3-ninj4: bye :)
[11:15] <Htbaa> config is in /etc/mysql/my.conf
[11:15] <computa_mike> Hi People - just stuggling getting thunderbird to sync my mail from hotmail - it says it's synchronising but nothing is appearing...  It's worked before... Any ideas?
[11:16] <Anomie21_> can anyone see this?
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> computa_mike: can you ping the mail servers?
[11:16] <Gentoo64> computa_mike, not sure if anythings changed, but i used to use thunderbird with hotmail years ago and it was random
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> Anomie21_: yes
[11:16] <Anomie21_> actionparsnip: ta, using webchat so its a bit buggy identifying
[11:16] <Anomie21_> Hi, I'm trying ro install ipheth, I found a .deb file so I wouldnt have to make etc, but the 'Install' button is greyed out? Ubuntu 11.10
[11:16] <glebihan> Htbaa, /etc/init.d/mysql is useless
[11:17] <glebihan> Htbaa, it's only there for backwards compatibility
[11:17] <glebihan> Htbaa, /etc/init/mysql.conf is not a configuration file
[11:17] <dr_willis> Anomie21_:  sudo gdebi foo.deb is what i normally use.
[11:17] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> Anomie21_, just cd to where the file is and run sudo dpkg -i "file name"
[11:17] <Htbaa> I never said /etc/init/mysql.conf existed
[11:17] <computa_mike> ActionParsnip: i can resolve it but not ping it...  but if I change the configuration of the account (for example to use a certificate) I do get an error message saying that the server rejected the connection (which I would expect)
[11:18] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> either one right dr_willis ?
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> m41nfr4m3-ninj4: if the error is in text, why not just use a pastebin instead of messing with screenshotting?
[11:18] <Gentoo64> computa_mike, i would just use gmail, it always works
[11:18] <glebihan> Htbaa, it does, unless you're on an old version of ubunt
[11:18] <computa_mike> ActionParsnip: can telnet to it via 995
[11:18] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> because it in a vm
[11:18] <Gentoo64> you can set it up so you recieve your hotmail messages in your gmail address
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> computa_mike: maybe the servers are down, or they have changed
[11:19] <Htbaa> i'm on 11.10, it doesn't exist and I've got mysql-server installed :)
[11:19] <dr_willis> m41nfr4m3-ninj4:  gdebi is smarter. :)
[11:19] <Htbaa> oooh wait
[11:19] <Htbaa> /etc/init/
[11:19] <Htbaa> ha :P
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> m41nfr4m3-ninj4: you can use pastebinit in cli to pastebin in terminal, just trying to speed things along is all
[11:19] <computa_mike> Gentoo64: Yeah - I was hoping I wouldn't have to do that... Might be a good test to make sure the servers are up - like ActionParsnip said.
[11:20] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> ActionParsnip, its in vbox. i installed it but i can still see the error when i boot
[11:20] <Gentoo64> computa_mike, yeah. hotmail / thunderbird has probably got better since i last used it, but all i remember was it working, then suddenly stopped working
[11:20] <Gentoo64> for no reason
[11:20] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> oh ok dr_willis ill keep that in mind thnx
[11:20] <yang_> where is
[11:20] <computa_mike> Gentoo64:  that's exactly what I'm seeing.
[11:21] <glebihan> Htbaa, it does exist, right ? the scripts in /etc/init are the ones used by upstart, the ones in /etc/init.d are for the old sysvinit system
[11:21] <Gentoo64> computa_mike, if you can afford to change email address, then gmail is better in every way
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> m41nfr4m3-ninj4: and what is the output of: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit lsb-release        Thanks
[11:21] <Anomie21_> m41nf4m3-ninj4: Thanks that appears to have worked but it isnt doing what its supposed to (letting my iphone act as a usb tether). I tried searching for 'ipheth' in Unity to see if it had created an application, but nop?
[11:21] <Htbaa> yeah I forgot about upstart
[11:22] <mickepaprika> hi guys...
[11:22] <dr_willis> even the ones in init.d are actually upstart scripts these days.. or at at least handled by upstart
[11:22] <Gentoo64> I don't suppose that guy a while ago is here, who had a problem with ps2 keyboard freezing?
[11:22] <computa_mike> Gentoo64: I'm seriously considering getting pop3 linked to gmail, and then downloading from Gmail - therefore linking thunderbird to that.
[11:22] <mickepaprika> i'm getting really strange colors when i play a video, anyone know what to do about this?
[11:22] <Gentoo64> computa_mike, worth a try
[11:22] <Gentoo64> then you can use both addresses
[11:23] <Gentoo64> and maybe migrate to gmail
[11:23] <spikeb> gmail rocks
[11:24] <zaffy> I set all email account to forward to gmail so I have everything in one account
[11:24] <dr_willis> for 1000x the spam in one place!
[11:24] <Gentoo64> yeah lol
[11:24] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> ActionParsnip, i only see the error when i boot
[11:24] <Gentoo64> hotmail is notorious for spam
[11:25] <zaffy> :)
[11:25] <dr_willis> i check my hotmail like once a year. :)
[11:25] <Gentoo64> i dont think ive had spam once in gmail
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> m41nfr4m3-ninj4: ok but does the system actually boot?
[11:25] <spikeb> i have a hotmail account from before microsoft bought them.
[11:25] <spikeb> i haven't checked it in years heh
[11:25] <Gentoo64> my hotmail is banned
[11:25] <spikeb> but i use it for messenger
[11:25] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> yeaa
[11:26] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> but some applications dont work
[11:26] <Gentoo64> i tried to brute fore it with hydra, knowing whatd happen lol
[11:26] <zaffy> Dr_willis spam in gmail are not shown themselves
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> spikeb: you can activate any email address as an account for MSN
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> m41nfr4m3-ninj4: ok so what is the output of the command I gave?
[11:26] <Guest20102> Het ActionParsnip, Kruptein here
[11:26] <Guest20102> *hey
[11:27] <spikeb> ActionParsnip, yeah i know. i just don't need to, have had that one forever heh
[11:27] <zaffy> Ant the "nice" part is that's impossible to change settings in spam in gmail
[11:27] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> i install pastebinit
[11:27] <Gentoo64> zaffy, you can change them
[11:27] <Guest20102> ActionParsnip  I just tried logging in using ubuntu 2D and it got the same problem :f so I'm now using irssi to chat
[11:27] <Anomie21_> Getting the following error when trying to make a file 'make[2]  no rule to make target 'kernal/bounds.c', needed by 'kernal/bouncds.s' stop
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> spikeb: I dropped hotmail a long time ago, then folks started moaning they were charging to connect using email clients
[11:28] <spikeb> haha ActionParsnip
[11:28] <phlak_user> Anomie21_, kernal?? what are you trying to compile?
[11:28] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> Setting up python-configobj (4.7.2+ds-1) ...
[11:28] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> Setting up pastebinit (1.1-2) ...
[11:28] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> Processing triggers for python-support ...
[11:28] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> m41nfr4m3-ninj4@Int3llig3nc3~$ pastebinit lsb-release
[11:28] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> Unable to read from: lsb-release
[11:28] <FloodBot1> m41nfr4m3-ninj4: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:28] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> m41nfr4m3-ninj4@Int3llig3nc3~$ lsb-release
[11:28] <zaffy> Not really. You can't disable the spam control, for example
[11:28] <Anomie21_> phlak_user: ipheth-driver
[11:29] <h31> Hi all. It is possible to tune my touchpad so it will do drag-and-drop with 2 fingers?
[11:29] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> pastebinit lsb_release
[11:29] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> Unable to read from: lsb_release
[11:30] <fgiw> anyone in for a KDE vs Gnome/Unity discussion?
[11:30] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> i love kde
[11:30] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> lol
[11:30] <spikeb> its not a real discussion unless its a kde versus gnome versus unity discussion ;)
[11:30] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> but im on gnome right now because my distro doesnt come in kde :(
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> fgiw: its offtopic here, this is support only
[11:31] <Guest20102> Anybody else having problems logging in to unity 3D and/or unity 2D?
[11:31] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> well they stopped letting ppl get the iso
[11:31] <zaffy> Bye guys
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> m41nfr4m3-ninj4: you can install KDE if you like, or you can install Kubuntu and it will have KDE by default
[11:33] <Atlantic777> hi! I can't play some .asf files with totem but can with mplayer or vlc. How to get totem play .asf? There are some very old threads on the web (2005-2007) about ffmpeg and gstreamer, but I'm sure that it's solved till now.
[11:33] <phlak_user> Anomie21_, why compile?
[11:33] <phlak_user> !info ipheth-utils | Anomie21_
[11:33] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> http://pastebin.com/CWNCHQD4
[11:33] <fz420> 大家好，
[11:33] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/CWNCHQD4
[11:33] <dr_willis> Atlantic777:  i always convert asf to some better format.. saves a lot of space
[11:34] <EuroNerd> I rough terms, how does Ubuntu Server differ from Ubuntu Desktop?  Is it just that Server doesn't have GUI?
[11:34] <Anomie21_> phlak_user: I have that installed but it isnt doing anything
[11:34] <rootux> Since I update my ubuntu 10.10 to ubuntu 11.10 I can't go into the internet via WLAN. Ubuntu says the connection to the router is established but it isn't. What can I do ?
[11:34] <phlak_user> Anomie21_, you should tail the syslog files to see what happens when you connect the iphone (tail -f /var/log/syslog)
[11:34] <Sidewinder1> !tw | fz420
[11:34] <Guest20102> ActionParsnip I think I know the source of the problem
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> m41nfr4m3-ninj4: ok run:  pastebinit /etc/lsb-release    what is output?
[11:35] <phlak_user> EuroNerd, you can also choose a LAMP stack to be installed for example on the server
[11:35] <spikeb> EuroNerd, ubuntu server installs server things, ubuntu desktop installs desktop things.
[11:35] <fz420> ok thanks
[11:35] <Atlantic777> dr_willis: I'll do that too, but I need quick fix. It's emergency, father want's to click and watch. -.-
[11:35] <Atlantic777> wants*
[11:35] <EuroNerd> phlak_user, so Ubuntu Server iso comes prepackaged with full LAMP stack?
[11:35] <Guest20102> ActionParsnip  I mostly use 2 screens to work in the week and I was annoyed that I had to activate the second monitor everytime via the nvidia config manager  so I pressed the save configurations to xorg ...  and now I'm only working with one screen
[11:36] <phlak_user> EuroNerd, you could say that
[11:36] <EuroNerd> cool :)
[11:36] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> http://pastebin.com/SYwxQ9ZM
[11:36] <phlak_user> Atlantic777, for emergencies, change the file associations of the .asf file to VLC so that when he clicks it opens with VLC
[11:36] <rootux> Since I update my ubuntu 10.10 to ubuntu 11.10 I can't go into the internet via WLAN. Ubuntu says the connection to the router is established but it isn't. What can I do
[11:37] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> wow ActionParsnip so much easier and less time consuming thnxx!!
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> Guest20102: rootux can you ping 8.8.8.8 over wifi?
[11:37] <Anomie21_> phlak_user: three lines, a) new high speed usb device b) checking bus 1, device 5 c) bus 1, device 5 was not an mtp device
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> m41nfr4m3-ninj4: very :)
[11:37] <rootux> ActionParsnip, I'll try
[11:38] <Guest20102> ActionParsnip: what had that to do with me ? :D
[11:38] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> pastebinit + "whatever cmd i run, such as lspci" right?
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> m41nfr4m3-ninj4: so you only get the error about the missing module at boot, but it does boot ok?
[11:38] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> yea im on it now
[11:38] <Atlantic777> phlak_user: I've already done that. It's ok but he's used to totem. :D
[11:38] <Guest20102> ActionParsnip: I just tried to reset everything in the nvidia config settings and save it again, and I'm now trying to restart..
[11:39] <phlak_user> Anomie21_, this site looks like it should point you in the right direction -> http://giagio.com/wiki/moin.cgi/iPhoneEthernetDriver
[11:39] <Anomie21_> phlak_user: thnx, will try there
[11:39] <Guest20102> how do you actually restart from commandline?
[11:39] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> reboot
[11:39] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> type reboot
[11:40] <Anomie21_> phlak_user: appears the last iphone they tested it on was the 3gs :/. I'm on the 4S so this is probably futile
[11:40] <rootux> ActionParsnip, should I typ: ping 8.8.8.8  ?
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> m41nfr4m3-ninj4: why have you got the 2.6.39 kernel in maverick? Maverick is on 2.6.35
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> rootux: yes
[11:40] <phlak_user> Anomie21_, unless Apple changed something since then :)
[11:41] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> ActionParsnip, IDK its blackbuntu
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> m41nfr4m3-ninj4: not supported here
[11:41] <m41nfr4m3-ninj4> oh.....
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> m41nfr4m3-ninj4: join  #Blackbuntu    they have their own channel
[11:41] <Anomie21_> phlak_user: Think I'll try and get my usb dongle working instead :P
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> m41nfr4m3-ninj4: this channel is for official canonical releases only
[11:42] <zelozelos> anyone figure out how to play netflix movies yet?
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> m41nfr4m3-ninj4: it's even on a different server:  irc.foonetic.net
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> zelozelos: it's coming soon accoring to omgubuntu
[11:43] <zelozelos> awesome!
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> zelozelos: currently it's not doable without a VM of windows
[11:43] <rootux> ActionParsnip,  I think it works, but who can I stop the 'ping command' ?
[11:43] <Anomie21_> I'm getting the same kernal error when trying to install that, is something up with my kernal?
[11:43] <phlak_user> rootux, ctl+c
[11:43] <proxx> hi all
[11:43] <phlak_user> Anomie21_, looks like something wrong with the source
[11:44] <Anomie21_> phlak_user: it's happening with two different sources
[11:44] <phlak_user> Anomie21_, installing what? ipheth-driver or usb dongle?
[11:44] <Anomie21_> phlak_user: both
[11:45] <phlak_user> Anomie21_, whats that driver have to do with the usb dongle?
[11:45] <Anomie21_> phlak_user: people here with a similar problem
[11:45] <Anomie21_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1047374
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> rootux: press CTRL+C
[11:45] <rootux> ActionParsnip,  It prints "138 packets transmitted, 138 received, 0% packet loss, time 137230ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 48.559/51.745/100.955/4.635 ms"
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> rootux: if you are getting replies then run:  echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf      does the web now work?
[11:47] <phlak_user> Anomie21_, the solution to that is quite clear in that post -> you need to make sure when you compile your code it's pointing to the Linux sources and not the headers.
[11:47] <Timewarper> Hey, i am using a tty1 and x server is not running. I want to disable nouveau in order to run nvidia.sh i just downloaded. It says nouveau is running. How do i stop it?
[11:48] <dr_willis> Timewarper:  stop the X server.. i alwyas use the nvidia drivers from the repos... they automcaitcally black list the nouveau drivers
[11:48] <dr_willis> sudo service lightdm stop
[11:48] <rootux> ActionParsnip,  no it doesn't work
[11:48] <dr_willis> Timewarper:  using that .sh installer may cause issues.
[11:49] <Anomie21_> phlak_user: yeah I seen that on the bottom post, first page - how do I go about doing that though?
[11:49] <Timewarper> dr_willis: doesnt recognise the service
[11:49] <Timewarper> dr_willis: i have x server down
[11:49] <dr_willis> Timewarper:  what release are you using?
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> rootux: do you use a proxy to get online?
[11:49] <Timewarper> dr_willis: 10.10
[11:49] <phlak_user> Anomie21_, ensure that you have the kernel-sources package installed
[11:49] <dr_willis> Timewarper:  it would be sudo serivce gdm stop     then
[11:50] <rootux> ActionParsnip, no
[11:50] <dr_willis> Timewarper:  then you can try that script. but i reccomend using the versions in the repos/addational-drivers tool
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> rootux: if you run:  cat /etc/resolv.conf     does it just have the line I gave without the quotes?
[11:50] <phlak_user> !info linux-source | Anomie21_
[11:50] <Anomie21_> phlak_user: pretty sure I do, went into the /user/src folder and there were two uncompressed folders, not compressed like the 2nd post suggested
[11:50] <Timewarper> dr_willis: i am running kubuntu now, maybe i should run kdm stop?
[11:51] <Anomie21_> phlak_user: is there a command that will tell me if it's installed? I just installed the default configuration from a 11.10 disk yesterday so I would imagine that would be included?
[11:52] <phlak_user> Anomie21_, apt-cache policy linux-source
[11:52] <phlak_user> Anomie21_, no it isnt included by default
[11:53] <rootux> ActionParsnip, If i type:  cat /etc/resolv.conf  it prints:      # Generated by NetworkManager nameserver 192.168.2.1
[11:53] <Anomie21_> phlak_user: installed (none) candidate: 3.0.0.12.14
[11:53] <phlak_user> Anomie21_, so it isnt installed (none gives that away)
[11:53] <Anomie21_> phlak_user: yeah, tried to install it but I have no internet connection on that pc lol
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> rootux: ok, run:  gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf      and change 192.168.2.1 to 8.8.8.8     save the new file, close gedit and try the web (I assume gnome desktop)
[11:55] <Anomie21_> phlak_user: I do have a USB though, is there a way I can download it onto that from my windows pc?
[11:55] <phlak_user> ActionParsnip, that file will get over-written everytime network manager connects
[11:56] <phlak_user> Anomie21_, you could browse the packages and download by hand (first type sudo apt-get install linux-source and note down all the packages it tries to download)
[11:56] <Kruptein> ActionParsnip do you get my messages?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> phlak_user: its just to test. I am aware it gets generated but if the change works we can make it stick
[11:56] <phlak_user> ActionParsnip, oh ok :)
[11:58] <Anomie21_> phlak_user: just linux0siurce and linux-source-3.0.0
[11:58] <rootux> ActionParsnip, I changed but web is still not working. (I got unity as desktop (ubuntu 11.10))
[11:58] <gmzlj> Anomie21_: i believe NetworkManager respects resolve.conf.head / resolve.conf.tail
[11:58] <Gentoo64> rootux, does a livecd work
[11:59] <gmzlj> Anomie21_: or rather, dhcpcd does
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> rootux: unity isnt a desktop, its a shell. You are using gnome desktop
[11:59] <Anomie21_> gmzlj: what? not sure I follow, was that meant for me?
[11:59] <phlak_user> rootux, are you testing thro firefox?
[11:59] <rootux> ActionParsnip, sorry my fault I'm a newbie sorry
[11:59] <gmzlj> Anomie21_: ActionParsnip, sory
[11:59] <gmzlj> ActionParsnip: NetworkManager respects resolve.conf.head / resolve.conf.tail
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> rootux: you'll learn :)
[12:00] <rootux> phlak_user,  thro firefox? Yes I use the firefox browser.
[12:01] <Gentoo64> if hes using dhcp theres no reason it shouldnt work :s
[12:01] <Gentoo64> firefox default proxy is system
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> gmzlj: there are ways to apply the change in the nm settings
[12:01] <Anomie21_> downloading [linux_3.0.0.orig.tar.gz], hopefully thats the right one..
[12:01] <m4k> Wht is diff. btw normal installation cd and from scratch installation cd
[12:01] <stpdave> Can anyone point me to a resource that explains the next step in getting my current 10.04 x86_64 installation across to my shiny new SSDs. The SSDs where setup according to this article - http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?82648-software-RAID-LVM-TRIM-support-on-Linux. Basically RAID1 for /boot and RAID0 for /
[12:01] <Gentoo64> rootux, you could try firefox with no proxy but i doubt itl help
[12:02] <gmzlj> ActionParsnip: late to the party, i don't actually know what the who problem is
[12:02] <bekks> Anomie21_: thats the wrong one.
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> Gentoo64: trust me, I've had users whose interface was getting dns via dhcp and no web until it was manually change
[12:02] <rootux> Gentoo64, And how can I do that ?
[12:02] <bekks> Anomie21_: thats the source package that was used to build the linux-image-source deb.
[12:02] <Anomie21_> bekks: oh
[12:02] <Gentoo64> rootux, in advanced system settings under nwtwork, choose direct connections. but it shouldnt make a difference
[12:02] <m4k> Wht is diff. btw normal installation cd and from scratch installation cd
[12:02] <chadwick777> hey guys
[12:03] <bekks> !patience | m4k
[12:03] <Anomie21_> bekks: thats the only one I could find on the ubuntu site under that name; http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/linux-source-3.0.0
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> gmzlj: user can ping 8.8.8.8 but no web access
[12:03] <Gentoo64> ok
[12:03] <bekks> Anomie21_: Why dont you just use apt-get to install the sources of the kernel desired?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> m4k: do you mean minimal CD?
[12:04] <arpad2> pls can someone help what does this mean http://paste.ubuntu.com/750202/
[12:04] <SoWhat> hello! can you tell me how to write Ubuntu ISO image to USB from Lubuntu?
[12:04] <m4k> Yeh
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> SoWhat: install unetbootin
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> arpad2: are the partitions healthy?
[12:05] <SoWhat> ActionParsnip: okay, tnx
[12:05] <Anomie21_> bekks: because Im trying to install drivers used for my internet connection. I dont have a connection currently
[12:05] <chadwick777> can someone help me out real quick? i have a macbook pro 2010. I triple booted it. Its got mac OS X snow leopard, Windows 7, and Unbuntu 11.10. windows 7 worked fine, untill i installed Unbuntu 11.10. now when i select to boot in wndows 7; it takes me to a black screen with a blinking "_" on the upper left hand corner.
[12:05] <canterer> tar x vimcdoc-1.8.0.tar
[12:05] <shomon> how do I make a hard drive bootable?
[12:05] <gmzlj> ActionParsnip: can he access a website via its ip?
[12:05] <gmzlj> http://74.125.226.242 ?
[12:05] <shomon> can I just copy something on it to do that, or do I have to copy everything off and format it or soemthing?
 probably not, I can run only live cd, nothing boots from hard drive
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> m4k: minimal installs a barebones cli install and offers to install a desktop, you can alternatively install which packages you need. The normal desktop install will install all the apps which are default in an ubuntu install, less control
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> gmzlj: worth a try
[12:06] <canterer> vimcdoc-1.8.0.tar: POSIX tar archive (GNU)
[12:06] <m4k> Wht is diff. btw normal installation cd and from scratch installation cd
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> m4k: I just said
[12:06] <canterer> file vimcdoc-1.8.0.tar
[12:06] <canterer> vimcdoc-1.8.0.tar: POSIX tar archive (GNU)
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> m4k: if you had some patience you would have realised
[12:06] <bekks> m4k: Please be patient.
[12:06] <canterer> tar -x vimcdoc-1.8.0.tar
[12:06] <canterer> error?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> or could install unp and use:  unp vimcdoc-1.8.0.tar
[12:07] <canterer> what is the reason?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> arpad2: fsck the partition in liveCD so you know its ok
[12:07] <arpad2> ActionParsnip: ok
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> canterer: unp is a single command for extracting most things at cli without having to remember syntaxes
[12:08] <canterer> thanks
[12:08] <canterer> fun:)
[12:09] <chadwick777> :(
[12:09] <arpad2> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/750205/
[12:09] <Nightwalkerkg> Can anyone tell me what are the best ati drivers for ati radeon 9550 on ubuntu 10.4 LTS ?
[12:09] <chadwick777> can someone help me out real quick? i have a macbook pro 2010. I triple booted it. Its got mac OS X snow leopard, Windows 7, and Unbuntu 11.10. windows 7 worked fine, untill i installed Unbuntu 11.10. now when i select to boot in wndows 7; it takes me to a black screen with a blinking "_" on the upper left hand corner.
[12:10] <m4k> Wht is difference between normal installation cd and from scratch installation cd
[12:10] <dr_willis> Nightwalkerkg:  try the ones in the addational-drivers tool.. or the gpl drivers (which are the default) thats your 2 options basically.
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> Nightwalkerkg: probably the open source one
[12:10] <Anomie21_> can someone take a look at the following erorr and tell me what I'm doing wrong here? http://pastebin.com/VmEwRJsm
[12:10] <phlak_user> chadwick777, where did you install the boot loader?
[12:10] <Nightwalkerkg> dr_willis i don't have any drivers available in additional drivers.
[12:10] <chadwick777> umm
[12:10] <chadwick777> i actually dont remember installing a boot loader
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> arpad2: I suggest you rean:   man fsck  you didn't even specify a partition, think about it
[12:11] <Nightwalkerkg> And with the gpl drivers my monitor is unknown.
[12:11] <dr_willis> Nightwalkerkg:  then i guess ati stopped supporting that card with their fglrx so you use the gpl drivers and thats it.
[12:11] <m4k> Wht is difference between normal installation cd and from scratch installation cd
[12:11] <chadwick777> i didclick the option that said "recomended install 3rd party programs"
[12:11] <chadwick777> but when it boots up, its a purple screen that says GRUB
[12:11] <aleek> hello, is there a way to remote upgrade ubuntu 9.10 to the newest? I can't even do apt-get update ;)
[12:11] <phlak_user> Anomie21_, is the source on an external drive/disk?
[12:11] <Gentoo64> m4k: stop trolling
[12:11] <shomon> does anyone know how to make a boot from USB of ubuntu? can you use an SD card for example?
[12:12] <phlak_user> shomon, yes, use startup disk creator
[12:12] <dr_willis> shomon:  what eversion of ubuntu?
[12:12] <shomon> any one that will work
[12:12] <shomon> it's an old laptop
[12:12] <canterer> how to copy a directories?
[12:12] <shomon> the cdrom doesn't work even
[12:12] <Nightwalkerkg> dr_willis i need the 1152x864 resolution,but with gpl drivers they are not available.
[12:13] <dr_willis> theres dozens of tools at pendrivelinux for the task. or with 11.10 you can use 'dd' to image the iso to the sd.
[12:13] <Nightwalkerkg> Any whay to enable it?
[12:13] <shomon> aah okay :)
[12:13] <shomon> thanks
[12:13] <dr_willis> Nightwalkerkg:  id check the forums or the askubuntu.com site about your exact chipset.
[12:13] <Exxon> !copy
[12:13] <Anomie21_> phlak_user: yeah, Ill try moving it ta
[12:13] <Nightwalkerkg> dr_willis sure thing,thanks for the helo.
[12:13] <chadwick777> phlack)ser
[12:13] <chadwick777> plak*
[12:13] <Nightwalkerkg> *help
[12:14] <chadwick777> what boot load should i install?
[12:14] <Gentoo64> grub
[12:14] <canterer> how to copy a directory?
[12:14] <phlak_user> chadwick777, grub ; but the question is where did you install it
[12:14] <chadwick777> well mine already has grub i think it installed automaticly
[12:14] <dr_willis> canterer:  cp command..
[12:14] <chadwick777> oh
[12:14] <chadwick777> i believe i installed it on my Ubuntu partition
[12:15] <dr_willis> normally grub goes on the MBR of the hard drive you are booting.
[12:15] <chadwick777> the one that said 50gb available space..
[12:15] <chadwick777> i have 1 hard drive
[12:15] <chadwick777> partitioned
[12:15] <dr_willis> then you should have put in sda. i belive
[12:15] <m4k> Wht is difference between minimal installation cd and from scratch installation cd
[12:15] <dr_willis> unless your hd is some other name/device
[12:15] <Gentoo64> m4k: nothing
[12:16] <phlak_user> m4k, if you scroll up, ActionParsnip has answered that question
[12:16] <chadwick777> wait  when did i have the option to choose where i wanted to install the boot loader
[12:16] <chadwick777> as i installed ubuntu?
[12:16] <dr_willis> chadwick777:  yes.
[12:16] <chadwick777> only thing i remembered doing was selecting the drive i wantd to install ubuntu on
[12:16] <Anomie21_> phlak_user: looks like this when moved to the desktop - http://pastebin.com/Ss3mXNyv
[12:17] <chadwick777> durirng installation i clicked "install recromended third party programs"
[12:17] <arpad2> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/750210/
[12:17] <zyonx> Buenos dias
[12:17] <chadwick777> and i also updated them all under my software store
[12:17] <zyonx> Alguien por aqui que tenga un buen manual de perl ?
[12:17] <chadwick777> just so frustrated and confused lol
[12:17] <Sidewinder1> !es | zyonx
[12:18] <zyonx> Anybody have a good perl manual?
[12:18] <chadwick777> is there a way i can view where i installed the bootloader
[12:21] <arpad2> ActionParsnip: I will try to restart now
[12:25] <Anomie21_> why isnt linux-sources bundled with ubuntu by default? seems pretty impotant...
[12:25] <chadwick777> guuuyys i need help i cant boot up windows 7 anymore
[12:25] <chadwick777> someone says it has to do with me installing the grub boot loader in the wrong area
[12:26] <Atlantic777> chadwick777: do you have windows 7 entry in the grub menu?
[12:26] <chadwick777> hmm
[12:26] <chadwick777> idk if this helps
[12:26] <chadwick777> but
[12:26] <chadwick777> http://paste.ubuntu.com/750124/
[12:26] <Timewarper> hey
[12:26] <Si2100> hey
[12:26] <rgb247> I need some help, I have ubuntu right now and I want to install windows in dual-boot
[12:26] <rgb247> I receiver an error during boot the new windows installation
[12:26] <Timewarper> i installed nvidia gpu driver but all compositing is now disabled.
[12:27] <chadwick777> but yes, it does show up in the grub menu
[12:27] <rgb247> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/20111126135343.jpg/
[12:27] <Anomie21_> bekks: Is this the right file? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/i386/linux-source-3.0.0/3.0.0-13.22
[12:27] <chadwick777> after i choose windows, it goes to a black screen, and shows just a blinking "_" in the upper left hand corner
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> rgb247: boot to ubuntu liveCD and resize your Ext4 partition. Backup your data first. the windows installer is primitive and cannot resize the current partitions
[12:28] <rgb247> ActionParsnip: I have two NTFS partition
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> rgb247: you will then need to boot BACK to the ubuntu CD after the install as the windows installer will blindly overwrite the MBR with its own loader
[12:28] <rgb247> in the past I had two linux in dual-boot, now I deleted one and I have a free partition
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> rgb247: you can install Windows to one of the NTFS partitions if you wish
[12:28] <rgb247> I re-partitioned it with gparted and I've created two NTFS partition
[12:28] <chadwick777> :( so tireed of this!
[12:29] <rgb247> ActionParsnip: I can't install, I receiver that error when I try to start windows 7 installation
[12:30] <Atlantic777> chadwick777: you could try reinstalling windows' bootloader and then again install grub
[12:30] <SoWhat> hello! can you tell me how to write Ubuntu to USB from Suse?
[12:30] <chadwick777> i remember reading about tht
[12:30] <chadwick777> that
[12:30] <chadwick777> gooing to windows putting the install dvd in right?
[12:30] <Atlantic777> chadwick777: so, insert win install cd, fixmb or something similar. (I don't use it...)
[12:30] <chadwick777> and then open the comand prompt
[12:30] <fgiw> rgb247: an IO error,... anything that could be causing the problem?
[12:30] <Atlantic777> fixmbr*
[12:30] <chadwick777> yeah i tried that
[12:30] <Timewarper>  I installed the nvidia driver and now all compositing effects are disabled
[12:30] <chadwick777> but it said that it couldnt locate
[12:30] <Atlantic777> chadwick777: and?
[12:30] <Exxon> chadwick777: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[12:31] <chadwick777> or some kind of error
[12:31] <Timewarper> help please
[12:32] <SoWhat> I just bought HP laptop with Suse preinstalled. Can you tell me how to install Ubuntu ?
[12:32] <Atlantic777> SoWhat: just install it over suse. :)
[12:32] <Timewarper>  I installed the nvidia driver and now all compositing effects are disabled
[12:32] <SoWhat> Atlantic777: how to write it to usb drive?
[12:32] <Atlantic777> SoWhat: try unetbootin.
[12:33] <Atlantic777> SoWhat: if you can't boot from usb, then burn an plop boot cd. :D
[12:33] <SoWhat> Atlantic777: unetbootin is great, but how to install in on Suse?
[12:33] <Atlantic777> SoWhat: yum -something?
[12:33] <Arpad2> ActionParsnip: thank you , with your help I coul restaRt the system
[12:33] <SoWhat> Atlantic777: I'll try, tnx
[12:34] <Timewarper> HEY
[12:34] <Timewarper> how can i disable nouveau module?
[12:34] <Timewarper> it autoloads
[12:34] <Atlantic777> chadwick777: look at this :) http://www.arsgeek.com/2008/01/15/how-to-fix-your-windows-mbr-with-an-ubuntu-livecd/
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> SoWhat  wrong channel, i guess, suse is different from ubuntu
[12:34] <dr_willis> !blacklist | Timewarper
[12:34] <Atlantic777> MonkeyDust: it's just pkg manager. :D
[12:34] <Anomie21_> Tried to install the .deb file, the 'install' was greyed out again in the software manager thing. Done dpkg -i, then tried make again. ran apt-cache policy linux source and it's still telling me (none) is installed??
[12:35] <chadwick777> thanks guys
[12:35] <SoWhat> MonkeyDust: If I will go to Suse channel, they will persuade me to use Suse :D
[12:36] <chadwick777> atlantic777 so pretty much i boot it off my ubuntu instalation cd?
[12:36] <chadwick777> meaning put my cd in, restart, and boot ubunti installation again?
[12:36] <Timewarper> dr_willis, ok i just typed in blacklist nouveau
[12:36] <Timewarper> i hope this works now
[12:36] <Atlantic777> chadwick777: yap, it seems that it can be done with ubuntu, too
[12:36] <dr_willis> Timewarper:  or as a kernel boot option ------>  Otherwise, try nouveau.modeset=0 to disable modesetting
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> Arpad2: np :)
[12:37] <dr_willis> Timewarper:  when i installed my nvidia drivers - they automcaically blacklisted  it.
[12:37] <Thelmaria> What's the security update support timeline for 10.04, with regard specifically to apache - I can get apache 2.2.14 from the lucid repositories, which is several versious shy of being fully patched. What do people normally do to get around this?
[12:37] <rgb247> I was disconected
[12:37] <Timewarper> dr_willis, it doesnt blacklist it in mine. what is best to use? kernel boot option or blacklist?
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> Thelmaria: could find a PPA
[12:37] <rgb247> anyone can bring me a solution for my problem with dual-booting?
[12:37] <rgb247> fgiw: no, I think...
[12:38] <Thelmaria> ActionParsnip: 10.04 is marked as an LTS. Does LTS not provide security updates in its repos, or is it specific package updates only? Is there a list of said packages?
[12:38] <fgiw> rgb247: has the same configuration worked before? no changes in disks or interfaces?
[12:38] <chadwick777> wiat meaning i dont have to restart or boot with the unbuntu installation disk?
[12:38] <Anomie21_> Anyone able to assist? Downloaded and installed the .deb packet from here as I have no internet connection. (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/i386/linux-source-3.0.0/3.0.0-13.22). Tried to install it via the software centre but 'Install' was greyed out. Installed via dpkg -i, now shows as 'Installed' in the software centre but when I use 'apt-cache policy linux source' it says Installed (none)
[12:38] <Atlantic777> chadwick777: mhm :)
[12:38] <fgiw> rgb247: or added devies
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> Thelmaria: afaik, yes
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> Thelmaria: should get updates
[12:39] <Atlantic777> Anomie21_: what are you trying to do? Building kernel from source?
[12:40] <Kruptein> ActionPatsnip that did the trick thanks :)
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Anomie21_: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Kruptein: see, no need to reinstall
[12:40] <chadwick777> hmm well if i dnt have to reboot
[12:40] <chadwick777> i tried the commnds
[12:41] <Exxon> Anomie21_: you will require Internet to refresh the repositories
[12:41] <glebihan> Anomie21_, that's because linux-source is a meta-package (which you did not install). The name of the package you installed is something like linux-source-3.0.0-13
[12:41] <chadwick777> after typing sudo apt-get install ms-sys it says Kruptein E: Unable to locate package ms-sys
[12:41] <Kruptein> ActionParsnip indeed :)
[12:41] <Anomie21_> ActionParsnip: oneiric
[12:41] <Thelmaria> ActionParsnip: 'apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade' does not provide updates for any packages bar linux headers. Apache 2.2.14 was released Oct. 2009, or thereabouts, for which there have been several published exploits and patches since. Said patches do not appear to be in the lts repositories - this is normal?
[12:41] <Anomie21_> Exxon: I dont have internet, I need to get linux-sources installed to install my internet driver
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> !kernel | Anomie21_
[12:42] <Anomie21_> Atlantic777: install linux-sources so I can make files
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> Thelmaria: if the patches help security and so on, I suggest you report a security bug and the newer version will be included
[12:42] <Anomie21_> ActionParsnip: I dont get why youre showing me that?#
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> Anomie21_: as it shows the packages you need to install to get the source for the kernel
[12:43] <Anomie21_> ActionParsnip: Ah, why isnt this included by default? Is there anyway I can just reinstall ubuntu and select this to be included? or is it not on the installation disk to start with?
[12:43] <Thelmaria> ActionParsnip: Noted. In the meantime, is it better for me to point at the 11.04 / 11.10 repos and update from them (which I *think* will break dependancies and stuff if I update on a 10.04 install), or should I find a PPA?
[12:44] <Atlantic777> SoWhat: how's going with suse? Have you installed the unetbootin?
[12:45] <SoWhat> Atlantic777: nope, not yet
[12:45] <SoWhat> Atlantic777: trying to find Suse IRC chat
[12:46] <glebihan> Thelmaria, use a ppa, don't mix repositories from different releases
[12:46] <Thelmaria> glebihan: Thanks - I didn't think that was going to be a smart idea. :)
[12:47] <AFD> I have a home NAS that I use for file storage... I guess it is mounted automatically in the OS and in nautilus but whenever I get a web upload form I cannot choose from the NAS - how would I change that?
[12:47] <Anomie21_> ActionParsnip: that guide only goes up to 10.04 also
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> Anomie21_: its generic for all
[12:47] <Anomie21_> ActionParsnip: and requires an internet connection
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> Anomie21_: the package names are the same
[12:48] <Atlantic777> SoWhat: /j #opensuse
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> Anomie21_: true, there may be the files on the instal media but I doubt t
[12:48] <SoWhat> Atlantic777: tnx
[12:48] <Anomie21_> ActionParsnip: so it's impossible to install linux-sources without a direct internet connection?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> Anomie21_: not sure, not had to do it in Ubuntu tbh, I know the package names are the same though
[12:50] <Guest27721> any one tells me how to install software ??
[12:50] <Guest27721> hey
[12:51] <Guest27721> freaking chilly
[12:51] <guigouz> which software ?
[12:51] <Exxon> Guest27721: what software you want
[12:51] <Guest27721> extended name is .tar.bz2
[12:52] <dr_willis> AFD:  any shares you access from nautilus should appear in the users .gvfs directory intheior home.
[12:52] <Guest27721> i am new here.
[12:52] <Guest27721> what codes should i input?
[12:52] <Anomie21_> ActionParsnip: seems a bit odd, So without a direct internet connection Ubuntu is pretty much useless as you cant compile any programs?
[12:52] <Guest27721> thank you ;-)
[12:52] <dr_willis> AFD:  OR you could mount them  to some other location.. personally i make a link from 'network' to '.gvfs' so i can easyly get to the gfvs dir.
[12:52] <Exxon> Guest27721: you can look in ubuntu repositories
[12:53] <Guest27721> what codes then?
[12:53] <AFD> dr_willis: nope - thing in .gvfs
[12:53] <dr_willis> AFD:  can you access the share in nautilus?
[12:53] <AFD> dr_willis: would they be in mnt or something...?
[12:53] <AFD> I added them in nautilus through the "add server" option in the file menu
[12:53] <dr_willis> AFD:   check with the mount command.
[12:54] <oCean> !software | Guest27721
[12:54] <AFD> dr_willis: I hadn't clicked the link in nautilus yet ;) now they appear in .gvfs
[12:55] <AFD> and I can link to that with a softlink to make it available to web forms?
[12:55] <Conch> Are there any video chat applications for Ubuntu oneiric ocelote? I tried Empathy but it's stopped working. Not keen on Skype either.
[12:55] <Anomie21_> Can anyone take a look at this error and see if there's anyway to resolve it without a direct internet connection? http://pastebin.com/VmEwRJsm (I can download files on this pc to usb and move them over)
[12:56] <Guest27721> damn. ubottu is a robot
[13:01] <Exxon> Guest27721: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/compile-install-tar-gz-tar-bz2-files-ubuntu-linux/
[13:01] <Atlantic777> Anomie21_: why don't you build kernel image on pc with internet connection and just move it to the laptop? :D This is linux, you can do this if cpu/sys is the same for both systems.
[13:01] <republic> I am interested in two ways radio. I want to record sounds from radio, and make a sound based on random pick on the sounds. How to do that in Ubuntu?
[13:02] <republic> Is there any tools or requirements to that in Lucid?
[13:02] <Guest27721> anybody knows what good compiler for c51 development  in Linux??
[13:02] <republic> Guest27721, gcc?
[13:02] <Guest27721> anybody knows what good compiler for c51 development  in Linux??
[13:02] <Atlantic777> republic: internet streaming radio or fm tuner?
[13:03] <republic> fm tuner Atlantic777
[13:03] <Guest27721> gcc? complier .. my desk is ATMs52. the chip
[13:03] <JohnFlux> Hey all
[13:03] <chroot> hi, what's the ubuntu netbook edition used for?
[13:03] <Atlantic777> republic: is it working now? Can you listen to it?
[13:03] <Anomie21_> Atlantic777: seems like a lot of hassle just to be able to install programs. (still dont know why ubuntu doesnt come with this by default). Is there no way of sharing my connection on this laptop with my PC via an ethernet cable?
[13:03] <Guest4860> Hello people
[13:03] <JohnFlux> Ubuntu no longer boots - it complains that no disk can be found for cryptswap1
[13:03] <republic> Atlantic777, no, actually I am not yet doing this. I am planning to do this
[13:04] <Guest4860> I need some help with internet connection sharing in natty
[13:04] <Guest4860> Is this the right place?
[13:04] <Atlantic777> Anomie21_: sure there is. You can share it if you have available networking interface on the machine "with internet".
[13:04] <oCean> !nbr | chroot
[13:04] <Atlantic777> republic: you can do that with mplayer, vlc and many other players. :P
[13:05] <cojn> Hello! How can I install the component 'universe'?  It's not  in my repositories..
[13:05] <chroot> and what is the  UNE is used for, for pc or something else?
[13:05] <seedyfofana> Hi
[13:06] <Anomie21_> Atlantic777: think I'm just going to abandon it and go back to xp lol
[13:06] <republic> Atlantic777, I have seen a display(well actually there were many monitors) which was used to display texts from various irc channels. It's very interesting. I want to do the same, but with sound. And the good source must be radio
[13:06] <Atlantic777> Anomie21_: no, no, no, wait! :D
[13:06] <Atlantic777> Anomie21_: just  a moment, to fix something. :D
[13:06] <Anomie21_> Can anyone answer me why I cant compile programs with a default ubuntu installation before I go though, does not make any sense to me at all..
[13:06] <oCean> chroot: no longer, but unr was specifically for netbooks (small displays etc)
[13:06] <Atlantic777> Anomie21_: because you need build-essential
[13:06] <republic> at least 48 monitors
[13:06] <Timewarper> hey
[13:07] <chroot> and is there any os for smartphone in ubuntu?
[13:07] <Anomie21_> Atlantic777: and why isnt that bundled? seems kinda important lol
[13:07] <Guest4860> I created the ad-hoc wifi network, and my phone can connect to it, but I can't ping google, and when I run tcpdump on my wifi adapter, I can see the ping returning from google, so I assumed it was an iptables problem
[13:07] <Guest4860> There are no entries in my iptables output
[13:07] <Atlantic777> Anomie21_: nope, ubuntu is for human beeings. Humans don't compile. xD
[13:07] <Timewarper> i want to blacklist nouveau cause i use nvidia. The best way to do that is to add a nouveau.modeset=0 kernel option at grub or use my_blacklist file?
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> chroot  not yet, Canonical is thinking of launching one
[13:08] <Guest4860> Do I have to change something?
[13:08] <dr_willis> AFD:   you HAVE to access the share first..  or you make a entry in fstab to make it auto mount at boot..  a
[13:08] <oCean> Anomie21_: programs for most users are available through repositories and they don't need to compile anything. Just installing the package build-essential will give you the tools required for compiling
[13:08] <Atlantic777> republic: actually, you want to record more than one radio at a time with one tuner?
[13:08] <dr_willis> Timewarper:  or both.. ive not had to blacklist it by hand on my 4 nvidia machines.
[13:08] <Conch> Hey guys, are there any video chat based IM's? I used Empathy but it no longer works. I don't like Skype much as well.
[13:08] <Timewarper> dr_willis, can you remind me the other option? where is my blacklist
[13:08] <chroot> and dose ubuntu support ARM processor?
[13:08] <oCean> !arm | chroot
[13:08] <Timewarper> !nouveau
[13:08] <dr_willis> Timewarper:  rember !blacklist  for the bot factoid
[13:08] <dr_willis> !blacklist
[13:09] <Anomie21_> oCean: I dont have an internet connection. trying to look for the .deb file to download now..
[13:09] <Atlantic777> Anomie21_: packages.ubuntu.com
[13:09] <republic> Atlantic777, yes, you right. but not one way radio, rather it is two ways radio. because I want to record daily conversation
[13:09] <pitou> ??????????????????
[13:10] <Atlantic777> republic: I'm not sure if one tuner can tune to more than one frequency. :D That's technically imposible, afaik.
[13:10] <dr_willis> dual tuners :)
[13:10] <Atlantic777> dr_willis: he wants 48 channels...
[13:10] <dr_willis> Atlantic777:  and nothing on....
[13:10] <Anomie21_> This the right one? http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/build-essential
[13:11] <republic> Anomie21_, yes install that package. after that, you can compile package in ubuntu
[13:11] <dr_willis> Anomie21_:  thats just a meta package to pull in other packages.. it in itself contains nothing...
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> Atlantic777  tell the guy he wants something technically impossible
[13:11] <Atlantic777> MonkeyDust: -> republic
[13:11] <Atlantic777> MonkeyDust: already told. :)
[13:11] <Anomie21_> republic: dr_willis I'm getting conflicting messages, lol
[13:11] <ShinyDarkness> Hello. I have just installed Ubuntu on my PC, and set up vino so I could remotely connect to it from my MacBook using a VNC client (namely, Chicken). Now I have the following problem: Ubuntu's display resolution is set to 1280x1024, because that is the resolution of the monitor I used to install it. However, MacBook monitors have a 1280x800 resolution, which makes using a 1280x1024-sized desktop very awkward. I tried to manually change the displa
[13:11] <ShinyDarkness> resolution using the System Settings app, but 1280x800 was not among the alternatives. How can I change Ubuntu's display resolution to 1280x800?
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> ok, i addressed the wrong person
[13:12] <oCean> Anomie21_: but it's a meta-package, so it holds nothing in itself, it's just a package to pull the dependencies
[13:12] <Atlantic777> Anomie21_: let's firstly fix internet sharing, it will be easier than doing manual dependency resolution. :D
[13:12] <republic> Anomie21_, by installing the package, you will directly install gcc and binary utilities(and perhaps some others) afaik
[13:13] <Atlantic777> and libs...
[13:13] <Anomie21_> Atlantic777: It was just a rhethorical situation, I dont have a ethernet cable handy :(
[13:13] <Anomie21_> I have a iphone with tethering which I cant install, and a wifi dongle that I cant install - heh
[13:13] <Atlantic777> Anomie21_: how do you connect to internet with computer you are using atm?
[13:13] <Anomie21_> Atlantic777: wifi tethering to my iphone
[13:14] <Atlantic777> Anomie21_: ummm... and wifi on laptop isn't working? :/
[13:14] <Atlantic777> i get it now...
[13:14] <Anomie21_> wifi on the computer isnt working as it has no wifi card, it has a wifi dongle but its just a cheap one I bought off ebay and it only has the linux source on it
[13:15] <Anomie21_> maybe I could get a 'generic' wifi dongle .deb file that would get that working? Or is there no chance that would work?
[13:15] <dr_willis> Anomie21_:  wifi drivers dont work that way.  they always got special firmware and other crud.
[13:15] <Atlantic777> Anomie21_: no, you need a driver, and driver is either compiled into the kernel or used as kernel module.
[13:15] <dr_willis> Anomie21_:  unless ya find a disrto that includes them
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> Anomie21_  usb-switch is the workaround that worked for me
[13:15] <spoq> hi
[13:16] <spoq> i just wanna say that ubuntu 10.4 ROCKS!
[13:16] <Atlantic777> MonkeyDust: probably you have eth cable, too. :D
[13:16] <spoq> with ubuntu 11.10 i was getting some lag..
[13:16] <Atlantic777> spoq: say good bye to it. :D Here comes the next lts. :P
[13:16] <spoq> :D
[13:16] <Atlantic777> spoq: joking, it will be supported for some time...
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> ah, idd :)
[13:18] <OODavo> I can't seem to receive any terminal bells, even from echo -e "\a". I'm using gnome-terminal in Ubuntu 11.10.
[13:18] <Anomie21_> So my best option is to get a ethernet cable and share my laptops internet via that?
[13:18] <OODavo> I have the Terminal bell checkbox in the current profile's preferences checked.
[13:18] <jrib> OODavo: tried a different terminal?  My guess is it's a setting in gnome-terminal
[13:19]  * OODavo tries xterm.
[13:19] <OODavo> No bell there either.
[13:19] <jrib> OODavo: is pcspkr loaded?
[13:19] <chroot> hey, what is omap
[13:19] <chroot> ?
[13:20] <OODavo> I modprobed it, so it should be.
[13:21] <jrib> OODavo: there's also that xset command to modify beep settings
[13:22] <OODavo> Just tried xset b 100 - no change.
[13:22] <TImewarper> dr_willis,
[13:22] <TImewarper> how can i disable nvidia splash screen?
[13:22] <jrib> OODavo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/486154 is (maybe?) worth reading.  It seems to be about metacity though which isn't used anymore
[13:22] <cheryl> Hello Oh great Geek ones....
[13:23] <TImewarper> cheryl, its only ubuntu
[13:23] <TImewarper> get serious
[13:23] <jrib> OODavo: xset b on   also no change?
[13:23] <cheryl> I am having problems running update manager to update my system, can anyone help me plse?
[13:23] <cheryl> TImewarper, But you're the ones with the knowledge, not me! :)
[13:23] <TImewarper> i am not either
[13:24] <OODavo> Yeah, same with that.
[13:24] <TImewarper> ENLIGTHEN US UBUNTUIANS
[13:24] <Anomie21_> Anyone have any experience tethering a android phone with ubuntu?
[13:24] <elgaton> cheryl: Do any error messages appear?
[13:24] <TImewarper> how can i disable nvidia splash screen?
[13:25] <cheryl> elgaton: yes, I took a screen shot but don't remember what 2 do with it! lol
[13:25] <elgaton> TImewarper: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-918705.html
[13:25] <jrib> OODavo: you want your pc-speaker to play it, not use the "beep" program?
[13:25] <elgaton> cheryl: Upload it to ImageShack and paste the link here
[13:26] <Atlantic777> TImewarper: which splash? When does it show?
[13:26] <jeblad> hi folks, synaptic chrashes, any idea why? I can't find any reasom looking through earlyer bug reports.
[13:26] <cheryl> elgaton, will do thank you.
[13:26] <TImewarper> Atlantic777, on boot before log in
[13:26] <Atlantic777> jeblad: run it with: gksu synaptic
[13:26] <OODavo> I don't really care what plays it. I just want it to make the terminal have urgent-alert status.
[13:26] <Atlantic777> jeblad: from terminal
[13:26] <Atlantic777> TImewarper: look in the BIOS.
[13:26] <rootux> I put a iso file called "ubuntu-10.04.3-desktop-i386.iso" on a 2GB USB-Stick and make it bootable. After I boot with the usb-stick the following lines were printed over and over: vesameu.c32 not a COM32R image boot:  and (Unknow keyword in configuration file gfxboot) What can I do to fix the problem?
[13:27] <Atlantic777> TImewarper: it should be there. :)
[13:27] <Atlantic777> rootux: use unetbootin.
[13:27] <zak_> hey
[13:27] <zak_> anyone would tell me please how ti mount an external samsung HDD ?
[13:27] <rootux> Atlantic777,  thanks :)
[13:27] <Atlantic777> zak_: sudo fdisk -l, put it on paste.ubuntu.com
[13:27] <elgaton> zak_: Connect it, the icon for it should appear on the desktop
[13:27] <jrib> OODavo: so you don't care about the sound at all?  Because my terminal shows up as urgent when it beeps despite having no sound
[13:27] <jeblad> got 1x Pango-WARNING **: Invalid UTF-8 string passed to pango_layout_set_text()
[13:27] <TImewarper> elgaton, should i use no logo or no splash
[13:28] <jeblad> with gksudo I got 2x the same error message
[13:28] <elgaton> TImewarper: NoLogo
[13:28] <themike101> hi people, i did somthing dum, i had partitiione my external into 3 and i had an image on the first partition i put it there using 'dd', and the other two had an ntfs and ext4 filesystems, not i triet to delete the first 4 gb filesytem with start up disk creator, but it lost the connection to the external and now the external seems to be empty wiped clean completely, is there a way to recover the data?
[13:28] <OODavo> Yeah, I don't really need the sound to even play. But I'm not getting it urgent, either.
[13:28] <jrib> OODavo: what window manager are you using?
[13:28] <cheryl> elgaton, Here you are http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/853/errorupdating.png/
[13:28] <aokmanga> hi all!
[13:28] <jeblad> But its a warning, it should not be critical
[13:29] <OODavo> XMonad in a gnome-session.
[13:29] <elgaton> jeblad: He's probably talking about "Gtk-CRITICAL" warnings.
[13:29] <elgaton> cheryl: Looking at it...
[13:30] <jrib> OODavo: yes, I use xmonad and it just works (though I don't run it through gnome-session).  To test, I'm doing: sleep 2; echo -e '\a', then changing to a different workspace
[13:30] <jeblad> elgaton: Pango-WARNING is the only one reported, no Gtk-CRITICAL
[13:30] <elgaton> jeblad: Sorry
[13:30] <jeblad> There is no other error message as I far as I can figure out
[13:30] <Reikoku> I have a HP Pavilion DM1-3200, suspend and hibernate both broken (screen stays on with blinking cursor for > 5 minutes and I'm forced to hard boot) on 11.10 - any ideas?
[13:31] <aokmanga> i've a problem with my macbook... when i don't use it it goes in standby i think and when i activate it again the screen remains black... low light. the keys to increase the brightness doesn't work. I enter the password and press ENTER and than the keys for brightness start working again. How can i solve this problem?
[13:32] <OODavo> jrib: Doing exactly that, getting no urgent highlight.
[13:32] <jeblad> dmsg has a sigfault fot synaptic..
[13:32] <aokmanga> i hope u'll understand my problem :)
[13:32] <jrib> OODavo: are you sure it's not an xmonad config issue?
[13:32] <oCean> cheryl: your (apt) database is locked by another process. If you're convinced you are not running any other software management tool, you can try to remove to lock by running a command in a terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[13:32] <OODavo> jrib: It's possible, but other sources of urgent-highlight (like Firefox) are working.
[13:33] <cheryl> oCean, I'm sure I'm not running anything else, thanks will try that. :)
[13:33] <Reikoku> Helping me get suspend OR hibernate working would be much appreciated, don't care which
[13:34] <cheryl> oCean, I imagine I need to close update manager b4 doing that?
[13:34] <jrib> OODavo: let me try gnome-terminal here
[13:34] <oCean> cheryl: yes, indeed
[13:34] <jrib> OODavo: doesn't work :)
[13:34] <zak_> Atlantic777: http://pastebin.com/ViWerFXP
[13:35] <OODavo> jrib: But it doesn't work for me in xterm, either. :/
[13:35] <jrib> OODavo: doesn't work for me in xterm either... weird.  I'm using urxvt
[13:36] <jrib> OODavo: in rxvt, I have UrgentOnBell set
[13:36] <Reikoku> I have a HP Pavilion DM1-3200, suspend and hibernate both broken (screen stays on with blinking cursor for > 5 minutes and I'm forced to hard boot) on 11.10 - any ideas? Would be happy getting either working...
[13:36] <cheryl> oCean, giving it a go now....
[13:36] <OODavo> jrib: Oh? Perhaps I should be switching to rxvt.
[13:36] <jrib> OODavo: there may be some similar xterm setting
[13:37] <chroot> hi, i want to get some knowledge of memory in smartphone, where should i go , or what should  i do ?
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> Reikoku: are there any bugs reported?
[13:37] <chadwick777> guuyys
[13:37] <chadwick777> i need help ive been trying to figure this out forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[13:37] <oCean> chadwick777: please calm down
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> chroot: try in ~ubuntu-offtopic this is ubuntu support
[13:37] <scratchingmyhead> is there some way to find duplicate pictures on my computer?  through terminal or program or something
[13:37] <OODavo> jrib: Looks like xterm has UrgentOnBell too, yeah.
[13:38] <zak_> Atlantic777:  still here ?
[13:38] <yeats> scratchingmyhead: try fdupes
[13:38] <Atlantic777> zak_: and it doesn't mount?
[13:38] <Atlantic777> zak_: now I am. :)
[13:38] <scratchingmyhead> yeats thanks
[13:38] <zak_> Atlantic777: ni iut doesn t
[13:38] <Atlantic777> zak_: check with df if tehre is /dev/sdc1 entry.
[13:38] <zak_> no
[13:38] <Dj_FlyBy> does anyone here know a good way to import .eml files from a Windows Live Mail backup into Thunderbird installed on Ubuntu ?
[13:38] <cheryl> oCean, no joy ugh! :(
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> scratchingmyhead: http://www.filetransit.com/files.php?name=Find_Duplicate_Images_Ubuntu   maybe
[13:38] <chadwick777> i tripple booted my mac and i installed windows 7, then ubuntu. ever since i install ubuntu it wont let me boot up in windows7.. i get a black screen with a blinking "_" in the upper left hand corner. i was told that i need to fix my MBR but some commands ive typed havent worked
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> scratchingmyhead: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-unix-finds-duplicate-files-in-given-directories/
[13:39] <zak_> Atlantic777:  no there is not any /dec/sc1 entry
[13:39] <Atlantic777> zak_: try this: sudo mkdir /mnt/ext-hdd && sudo ntfs-3g /dev/sdc1 /mnt/ext-hdd
[13:39] <scratchingmyhead> yeats no directories specified?
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> chadwick777: could boot to ubuntu and run:  sudo update-grub
[13:39] <oCean> cheryl: too bad, usually that does the trick of removing an existing lock. Still the same error message? In that case I would try a reboot
[13:39] <chadwick777> http://www.arsgeek.com/2008/01/15/how-to-fix-your-windows-mbr-with-an-ubuntu-livecd/ i tried that and when i put in the first command or 2 it says something cant find E:
[13:40] <zak_> Atlantic777: y eah  it says it wasn t fixed safley on windows  !!!! f****ck windows
[13:40] <chadwick777> ill try that
[13:40] <chadwick777> im in ubuntu now
[13:40] <oCean> zak_: mind your language here. If you have to obfuscate your words, then don't use them
[13:40] <haylo> hey this is the ubuntu channel we love windows here
[13:40] <yeats> scratchingmyhead: the man page has the usage instructions - do 'man fdupes'
[13:40] <cheryl> ocean rebooting, back soon.
[13:40] <Atlantic777> zak_: try umounting it, than reattach.
[13:40] <Anomie21_> does anyone have any experience with ipheth? I have a general .deb file I installed (Install was greyed out for some reason so I installed via dpkg -i) but it appeared to have installed fine, produced no errors. and now reads as 'Installed' when I open the .deb file. But it doesnt seem to do anything? Tried searching for 'ipheth' in the unity search thing to see if it had a GUI but it didnt return any results other than the origin
[13:41] <zak_> Atlantic777: ok
[13:41] <zak_> oCean: sorry
[13:41] <chadwick777> k, i updated it
[13:41] <Atlantic777> zak_: and use that "safely remove". :P
[13:41] <chadwick777> but its not that i dont SEEE widnows on grub boot loader, its just after i select windows, i get a black screen
[13:41] <haylo> you dont n ormally run a deb package withh the db file itself in my experience
[13:42] <Atlantic777> ActionParsnip: he's missing windows bootloader.
[13:42] <haylo> if you open up the package there may be an executable file you can find
[13:42] <jrib> OODavo: yeah don't know what to do with gnome-terminal though
[13:42] <Atlantic777> ActionParsnip: @ chadwick777
[13:42] <gllera> hi, I had installed ubuntu server on a lvm partition and I had no problem during the installation but when it's completed and I restart the grub show the error: "unknown filesystem". Any solution?
[13:43] <chadwick777> atlantic777 btw, i tried that link u gave me
[13:43] <zak_> Atlantic777: same thing , disk is not mounted ! strange !
[13:43] <Atlantic777> zak_: there's some tool for fixing that, I can't remember. :/
[13:43] <OODavo> jrib: Might be time I switch terminal apps. :/
[13:43] <Atlantic777> zak_: I had that problem too...
[13:44] <jiohdi> just installed ubuntu daily... blank screen, can access ctl-alt-f1, can apt-get install, got nvidia-current... still blank screen, suggestions?
[13:44] <chadwick777> atlantic777 : chadwick@ChadbookPro:~$ sudo apt-get install ms-sys Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package ms-sys chadwick@ChadbookPro:~$
[13:44] <Guest99393> tem algum br ai pra me ajudar?
[13:45] <jrib> !br | Guest99393
[13:45] <jrib> jiohdi: "daily" as in "precise"?
[13:45] <Guest99393> ok
[13:45] <Atlantic777> chadwick777: just a moment.
[13:45] <jiohdi> jrib, I used unetbootin, and got ubuntu daily-64bit
[13:46] <spoq> hi ubuntu!
[13:46] <jiohdi> jrib, I am assuming daily means the current build?
[13:46] <jrib> jiohdi: if you are using precise, please use #ubuntu+1 for support.  It's still being developed
[13:46] <gentz> I'd like to store my password ina keyring and load root terminals by default so i dont have to sudo su everytime. how can i do this?
[13:46] <jiohdi> it says its 11.10
[13:46] <jrib> jiohdi: what does daily mean?
[13:46] <jiohdi> I thought it meant the most current
[13:46] <LinoSP> hi does ubuntu support a wide variety of Wireless USB Adapters?
[13:46] <gllera> anybody can help me?? Please!!
[13:47] <Timewarper> hey
[13:47] <Timewarper> Whats ubiquity?
[13:48] <elgaton> Timewarper: the Ubuntu installer
[13:48] <UncleTuna> 11.10 isn't recognizing my monitor, udated driver yesterday too
[13:48] <szal> UncleTuna: what driver?
[13:49] <jrib> OODavo: urxvt works great for me
[13:49] <Sidewinder1> gllera, Just ask your question; if anyone knows the answer, they'll likely tell you. :-)
[13:49] <UncleTuna> szal: the video card driver.
[13:49] <szal> UncleTuna: which is?
[13:49] <elgaton> gentz: it is NOT recommended. If you want to do that, use "sudo visudo" to edit the /etc/sudoers file.
[13:49] <OODavo> jrib: Yeah, I'm experimenting with it a bit. Can't seem to get the urgent firing. :/
[13:49] <Timewarper> elgaton, if i run ubiquity now in order to install ubuntu at my usb stick, will it carry with it the changes i made to the original livecd? ( i have installed nvidia and some programs)
[13:49] <jrib> OODavo: in your ~/.Xdefaults, put URxvt*urgentOnBell: true
[13:50] <elgaton> Timewarper: DO NOT use Ubiquity to install Ubuntu to a USB stick. Use the USB Stick creator program.
[13:50] <Atlantic777> chadwick777: ms-sys isn't in ubuntu repos. :/ You can install it from this PPA: https://launchpad.net/~lenski/+archive/ms-sys
[13:50] <jrib> OODavo: then run « xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults » and start a new urxvt instance
[13:50] <gllera> Sidewinder1, thanks! Then maybe nobody can help me =(
[13:50] <Atlantic777> chadwick777: another thing you can do is to try with "super grub disc"
[13:50] <OODavo> jrib: Aha, I got the case wrong in the .Xdefaults line. Working now.
[13:50] <elgaton> Timewarper: The USB stick creator has an option to preserve all data, have not tested it but should carry the changes (at least the personal data is preserved, don't know about programs).
[13:50] <Atlantic777> chadwick777: and o give one more try for windows install dvd/cd
[13:51] <gentz> elgaton: my user is in the sudoers group. but what i want is when i open konsole for it to be a root terminal without having to sudo
[13:51] <jrib> OODavo: great, I'm out for a bit
[13:51] <Timewarper> elgaton, we use ubiquity in backtrack to install it on a usb stick after we first partition the stick. (sh -c "ubiquity")
[13:51] <OODavo> jrib: Thanks for the help. ^_^
[13:51] <phlak_user> gentz, doesnt sudo -i work?
[13:51] <aokmanga> i've a problem with my macbook... when i don't use it it goes in standby i think and when i activate it again the screen remains black... low light. the keys to increase the brightness doesn't work. I enter the password and press ENTER and than the keys for brightness start working again. How can i solve this problem?
[13:52] <elgaton> Timewarper: Ah, you're talking about backtrack - try asking in their channel then, the original Ubuntu is a bit different
[13:52] <elgaton> Timewarper: Ubuntu uses the Stick creator for that
[13:52] <zak_> anyone would tell me please how ti mount an external samsung HDD ?
[13:53] <Atlantic777> zak_: ntfs-3g :D
[13:53] <republic> it seems that #ubuntu-hams is not quite active :(
[13:53] <UncleTuna> ok, had to look.  the recommended invidia driver is active, yet system info shows no driver...
[13:53] <phlak_user> zak_, what is the filesystem on that hdd?
[13:53] <Atlantic777> zak_: the problem is improperly deattached hdd on windows. :D
[13:53] <LinoSP> I want to buy a usb wireless adapter but i dunno if it work in ubuntu, Can u recomend me a specific chipset?
[13:53] <Atlantic777> phlak_user: it's ntfs there, mounted sucessfully with ntfs-3g
[13:53] <phlak_user> LinoSP, anything with an atheros chip should work fine
[13:54] <gentz> phlak_user: i'm using kde & i want to store my sudo password ina  keyring. so that whenever i start a terminal it is immediately opened as a root terminal.
[13:54] <phlak_user> Atlantic777, ok
[13:54] <cheryl> oCean, Only one thing 2 say "such  a beautiful night, I'm looking for something dumb to do, hey baby, I think I wanna marry you!!  Problem solved, system installing updates as I type!! :D Thank you.
[13:54] <phlak_user> gentz, thats not recommended
[13:54] <spoq> is there Bubuntu?
[13:54] <Sidewinder1> zak_, Plug it in, turn it on, go to your file manager (Nautilus?) and right click on the drive and select 'mount'.
[13:54] <LinoSP> phlak_user:  thx ;)
[13:54] <oCean> cheryl: :) Glad to assist
[13:54] <Atlantic777> spoq: what Bubuntu should be? :D
[13:55] <phlak_user> !hcl | LinoSP
[13:55] <spoq> simiarl to Kubuntu
[13:55] <gentz> phlak_user: yes i know. but i type sudo su 100s of times daily. i need it
[13:55] <spoq> similar*
[13:55] <spoq> or Mubuntu
[13:55] <phlak_user> gentz, sudo -i gives you a root prompt; you could use that once a day
[13:56] <spoq> is there a guide to learn more about Linux commands?
[13:56] <elgaton> spoq: Do you need a basic or an advanced guide?
[13:56] <spoq> basic :P
[13:56] <elgaton> spoq: This list may help you at first: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unix_utilities
[13:57] <Atlantic777> spoq: try to enter this into terminal: man man
[13:57] <gentz> phlak_user: yes but i must run that inside a terminal. i am opening terminals in the window manager..
[13:57] <spoq> thanks, is there a better guide than that
[13:57] <Atlantic777> spoq: and then man name-of-utility
[13:57] <gentz> phlak_user: so when i press ctrl+n i get a new terminal and i ahve to do sudo -i again
[13:57] <cheryl> oCean, you didn't say no then lol
[13:57] <Atlantic777> spoq: man fdisk, man mount, man chmod, man df, man free
[13:57] <elgaton> spoq: http://www.reallylinux.com/docs/basic.shtml
[13:58] <gentz> phlak_user: i want to store the password in kde's keyring & have it done automatically
[13:58] <elgaton> spoq: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/commands.htm
[13:58] <spoq> thansk Atlantic777 and thanks elgaton, will check them out now ;)
[13:58] <phlak_user> gentz, then you can use screen
[13:58] <elgaton> spoq: You're welcome
[13:58] <Atlantic777> spoq: and this book: http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596003302.do
[13:58] <kla> spoq: 'info coreutils' was pretty helpful to me
[13:58] <phlak_user> !sudo | gentz
[13:58] <phlak_user> !root| gentz
[13:59] <spoq> thanks guys
[13:59] <phlak_user> !info screen
[13:59] <gentz> phlak_user: I dont want to work in a single terminal window. That's not what I'm asking about. I'm asking about running graphical terminals as root & storing the password for this in the kde keyring
[13:59] <dr_willis> gentz:  storeing the sudo password?
[13:59] <phlak_user> gentz, and im trying to tell you that its not possible; your best option is to run sudo -i and then launch screen
[14:00] <elgaton> gentz: I think that's not possible (the KDE system and sudo are pretty separated).
[14:00] <gentz> There's a root terminal & it used to be implemented in debian, so i know its possible
[14:00] <dr_willis> you enter the sudo password once. and i thought i twas unlocked for other terms also. for a few min.
[14:00] <dr_willis> gentz:  a root terminal. is just a command that runs smthing like 'gksudo gnome-terminal'
[14:01] <phlak_user> gentz, not in ubuntu :)
[14:01] <Sidewinder1> spoq, You might also find this of interest: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1766253
[14:01] <gentz> dr_willis: yes this is what i need ty.
[14:01] <dr_willis> gentz:  make a laiuncher that does  the kde euilivent. somthing like 'kdesudo konsole'
[14:01] <spoq> Sidewinder1, thanks im gonna read it :)
[14:02] <dr_willis> you may want to make a special konsole theme/scheme so its in bright red also.
[14:02] <Sidewinder1> spoq, My pleasure. :D
[14:02] <spoq> ^_^
[14:02] <gentz> dr_willis: how do i increase the timeout period for requiring a password?
[14:02] <kla> Aww! Everyone's so pleasant! I like it :)
[14:03] <spoq> !!
[14:03] <dr_willis> gentz:  its mentioned int he sudo docs somewhere.  I never bother with changeing it
[14:03] <dr_willis> i tend to sudo as needed and dont leave root terminals laying about.
[14:03] <dr_willis> if you launch a terminal via 'sudo terminal' then the timeout wouldent matter
[14:04] <chadwick777> :(
[14:04] <gentz> dr_willis: found it in sudoers manual. ty!
[14:04] <CyberWombat> Hello all. After checking "Patners" repos in software sources, I am unable to uncheck anything. Is it a known bug, how can I fix this without editing sources.list ? Thanks.
[14:04] <Sidewinder1> kla, I think you'll like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28philosophy%29
[14:04] <Atlantic777> and it's good habit to use gksu and kdesu for running GUI apps as root.
[14:05] <computa_mike> i have a question about ubuntu one
[14:05] <atheeth> ya
[14:05] <sagaci> computa_mike: really, what is it
[14:05] <computa_mike> if i click on a folder and select to share it using U1 - does that even work?
[14:06] <Atlantic777> computa_mike: sure it works. How do you mean? :D
[14:06] <sagaci> should do
[14:06] <computa_mike> Atlantic777: I wanted to share my .gramps folder between my desktop and netbook - the folder says it's shared but it's not popping up on the netbook
[14:07] <dr_willis> computa_mike:  you could put 'gramps' in the U1 foolder. then link .gramps to it.. as one way
[14:07] <gllera> i resolved my problem! =D
[14:07] <Atlantic777> computa_mike: have you set u1 somehow on netbook?
[14:08] <dr_willis> there is the UbuntuOne chanel also.
[14:08] <Atlantic777> computa_mike: personally, I use rsync, unison and dyndns + git for code. That is more stable than u1 for me. :D
[14:08] <dr_willis> Canoical should leverage ubuntu one more. :) its a handy service thats just overlooked.
[14:08] <computa_mike> Atlantic777: yes - I saw the notification appear on the netbook, but can't see it
[14:09] <dr_willis> getting to be dozens of these cloud services. :) i must have 30gb of storage  for my critical files..  or just my comic books...
[14:09] <computa_mike> dr_willis: I was hoping to sync the family tree I'm working on between machines to allow me to update from anywhere.
[14:09] <chroot> hi , what is the defference between flash and rom?
[14:09] <Atlantic777> chroot: you can write to flash, and cannot to rom.
[14:10] <oCean> chroot: maybe try ##hardware, this is ubuntu support only
[14:10] <Atlantic777> chroot: rom is Read Only Memory. Why do you ask?
[14:11] <luca> Hi! I'm trying to install a dhcp server but I'm having difficulties. How do I start/stop the service?
[14:12] <silv3r_m00n> which package can give me sockio.h on ubuntu ?
[14:12] <dr_willis> computa_mike:  theres other cloud services.  drop box. box.net  minus,
[14:12] <Atlantic777> luca: /etc/init.d/dhcpd start|stop
[14:12] <bekks> silv3r_m00n: packages.ubuntu.com can answer that question.
[14:13] <Atlantic777> luca: man service
[14:13] <luca> Atlantic777: that is the problem. I do not have that...
[14:13] <dr_willis> luca:  sudo service servicename stop
[14:13] <Atlantic777> luca: aham, ok, do you follow some tutorial for setting it up?
[14:13] <chroot> Atlantic777, as you know in smartphone, there is RAM and ROM,
[14:14] <chroot> Atlantic777, and i think the RAM is the same in both phone and pc
[14:14] <Atlantic777> chroot: you have rom in the pc, too. ;)
[14:14] <chroot> but in phone  , ROM means Flash.
[14:14] <chroot> i am right.
[14:14] <oCean> chroot: Atlantic777 this channel is not for general discussion. Please take it somewhere else
[14:14] <luca> Atlantic777: yes: the official guide
[14:15] <Atlantic777> oCean: kk
[14:15] <Atlantic777> luca: can you please give me the link, just to check it. :)
[14:15] <yeats> silv3r_m00n: looks from 'apt-file search sockio' that it's in the linux-headers package
[14:15] <Somelauw> Does anyone have a sumsung digimax a 503. Does anyone know how to get the photos of it on linux. I already tried shotwell.
[14:15] <yeats> silv3r_m00n: at least sockios.h is ;-)
[14:16] <Own3r_> hello
[14:16] <luca> Atlantic777: yes, I was looking for it again: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/dhcp3-server
[14:16] <chroot> ok
[14:16] <Somelauw> Or is this a very windows only device?
[14:17] <silv3r_m00n> yeats: but linux-headers is installed here
[14:17] <Own3r_> my facebook page https://www.facebook.com/pages/Hackers/131750593592154
[14:17] <luca> Atlantic777: I installed the package but I got failed when it was started. Then I wanted to start the service manually after some changes to the conf file but I couldn't find how to start it.
[14:17] <oCean> Own3r_: how is that relevant to this channel?
[14:17] <silv3r_m00n> still sockio.h is not presend on the system
[14:17] <Own3r_> its about computer
[14:17] <yeats> silv3r_m00n: don't know what to advise then, sorry
[14:17] <Sidewinder1> !ot > Own3r_
[14:17] <Own3r_> ok
[14:17] <bekks> silv3r_m00n: Which Ubuntu version do you have? Which version of linux-headers do you have?
[14:17] <oCean> Own3r_: don't post that here, it has nothing to do with this ubuntu support channel
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> Somelauw: does it cause a reaction in dmesg when you plug it in?
[14:18] <luca> Atlantic777: I also cannot find the mentioned /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf
[14:18] <Atlantic777> luca: that's strange. Is dhcp correctly installed?
[14:18] <Atlantic777> luca: no error during install process?
[14:19] <luca> Atlantic777: I installed twice the mentioned package dhcp3-server. Seems correctly installed but not started.
[14:19] <Somelauw> ActionParsnip: Not at all
[14:19] <Somelauw> Oh, wait. I actually need to turn the device on, before it communivates
[14:20] <Atlantic777> luca: service dhcpd restart
[14:20] <Atlantic777> luca: what happens?
[14:20] <Somelauw> Great, it just works out of the box. I just need to turn the device on manually.
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> Somelauw: coolies, power in electrical things is always handy
[14:20] <Atlantic777> Somelauw: everything works better when you turn it on. :D
[14:20] <luca> Atlantic777: dhcpd: unrecognized service. I also cannot find with service --status-all.
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> !rootirc | Guest45234
[14:21] <Timewarper> Hey
[14:21] <dr_willis> proper security is eveyrbodies business. :)
[14:21] <Timewarper> i want to install virtualbox with usb support
[14:21] <Timewarper> what command to run?
[14:21] <dr_willis> !vbox
[14:21] <Somelauw> ActionParsnip: I had bad hopes, because my samsung printer works under linux, but color images don't come out that well.
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> Timewarper: you need to closed source virtualbox from the virtualbox repo
[14:21] <Atlantic777> luca: sudo apt-get install dhcp3-server, and put the log on paste.ubuntu.com
[14:22] <luca> Atlantic777: by log you mean the output? Or dmesg?
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> Timewarper: you'll need to uninstall the one you have and install the 4.1 one, your current VMs will be untouched and run in the 4.1 version
[14:22] <Atlantic777> ActionParsnip: isn't usb supported with open source in newer versions of vbox?!
[14:22] <Timewarper> ActionParsnip, i want x86_64 (both host and guest) and i want to plug my usb stick
[14:22] <subdesign> hey, how to lower the icon size on Unity lanucher bar?
[14:22] <Timewarper> ActionParsnip, what version to get?
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> Atlantic777: no, only the closed source one
[14:22] <pedro3005> I used to be able to load videos online and they would appear on the /tmp folder but now they no longer do that. what's happening?
[14:22] <barcef> Is there an equivalent to POWER MANAGER INHIBIT APPLET in unity?
[14:23] <Atlantic777> luca: sry, output
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> Timewarper: 4.1   the repo how to is on virtualbox's site
[14:23] <Timewarper> kk
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> pedro3005: if you want to download youtube vids, try youtube-dl or one of the many addons/extensions for your browser
[14:24] <dante_> try clipgrap
[14:24] <pedro3005> ActionParsnip, it's not youtube, it's some website "vimeo"
[14:24] <dante_> i use that
[14:24] <dante_> grab
[14:24] <phix> hey, why has ubuntu dropped Netbeans and [sun|oracle] Java?
[14:24] <dante_> clipgrab
[14:24] <luca> Atlantic777: http://paste.ubuntu.com/750328/
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> phix: java has a new license, so it isn't packaged anymore
[14:24] <dante_> clipgrab support many sites
[14:24] <dr_willis> phix:  you shoudl ask oracle why they redid the license that forced ubuntu to drop it. :)
[14:24] <kla> ActionParsnip: Hmm, I thought open source vbox has USB 1.1 support
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> kla: not native access, you need the closed source one
[14:25] <pedro3005> well surely the quickest way was having it appear on /tmp
[14:25] <phix> ActionParsnip: oh, so I got Oracled?
[14:25] <pedro3005> maybe firefox is using a different folder now?
[14:25] <dr_willis> Oracle is good at messing up everything they get controll over it seems..
[14:25] <arcaico> Hey, I need to use a certain source.list but unfortnatly it appears with an error like  ignore some servers
[14:25] <phix> dr_willis: yeah, looks like openoffice isnt supported either
[14:25] <yeats> phix: it should be available from the Partner repository
[14:25] <arcaico> anybody know?
[14:25] <phix> oh wait, libreoffice <3
[14:25] <phix> yeats: still?
[14:25] <Sidewinder1> pedro3005, You may wish to have a look at the 'plug-in'/add-on for Firefox called "UnPlug..
[14:26] <dr_willis> phix:  and solaris makes 3... im suprised they havent messed up virtualbox yet.
[14:26] <yeats> phix: last I looked
[14:26] <Atlantic777> luca: can you pastebin this one, too?  ls /etc/init.d/ | grep dhcp
[14:26] <phix> yeats: I know it is for lucid, didn't know about oneiric though
[14:26] <elgaton> arcaico: Could you paste your sources.list in a pastebin?
[14:26] <ese> I had my system going to screen saver now and then. please help.
[14:26] <dante_> !info clipgrab
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> phix: it's not hard to install manually, or you can stick yo open JDK
[14:26] <phix> dr_willis: heh I havnt used virtual box in a while any way :)  I have moved to lxc and xen / kvm / libvirt
[14:27] <glebihan> pedro3005, I think that video (just like youtube) is now using a streaming technology that does not use a local file storage of the video (this has nothing to do with firefox)
[14:27] <MisterMom> is alsa built into the kernel in ubuntu 11.10 ?
[14:27] <phix> ActionParsnip: I am trying to download netbeans now ---> 69% [++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++                                                     ] 147,879,290 --.-K/s  eta 13d 19h
[14:27] <pedro3005> glebihan, oh
[14:27] <pedro3005> those bastards
[14:27] <luca> Atlantic777: really necessary to pastebin it? Output is the only line "isc-dhcp-server".
[14:27] <somsip_> phix: oneiric shows no package, but 7.0.1 is planned for 12.04 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netbeans
[14:27] <Atlantic777> luca: ok, ok...
[14:27] <yeats> phix: I'm wrong :-/: http://askubuntu.com/questions/52154/how-do-i-install-the-latest-version-of-sun-java
[14:27] <phix> ActionParsnip: apparantly netbeans doesnt support manual mirrors, they do it automagically and the automagic mirror that was chosen will take 13 days to download from
[14:28] <Atlantic777> luca: strange, I don't have any idea what's happening. :D
[14:28] <phix> yeats: yeah I have done that, I found a repo to get it from
[14:28] <crayzee> Just upgraded from 8.04LTS to 11.10 via the LiveCD. Have /home under mdadm raid1. Have got everything working, except the system sometimes hangs during startup. It appears to be an issue with mdadm complaining about a degraded array, though the array is fine (rebooting successfully confirms this).
[14:28] <phix> yeats: netbeans I am talking about now :)
[14:28] <yeats> phix: ok
[14:28] <Sidewinder1> pedro3005, See my above, for a 'work-around'. ^
[14:28] <phix> somsip_: awesome
[14:28] <Atlantic777> luca: which version of ubuntu it is?
[14:28] <ese> luca: I had my system going to screen saver now and then. please help.
[14:28] <somsip_> phix: but 7.0.1 is running ifne after manual install on my 11.10
[14:28] <crayzee> It seems to be because the system detects /dev/sdb as /dev/sdf sometimes (which is weird because I thought it was using UUIDs so shouldn't matter)
[14:28] <crayzee> Any ideas?
[14:28] <phix> somsip_: you has a better mirror?
[14:29] <phix> somsip_: I dont want to wait 13 days to get it
[14:29] <somsip_> phix: I probably am not in the same country as you
[14:29] <pedro3005> Sidewinder1, yes, it's working great, thank you
[14:29] <luca> Atlantic777: this is a Kubuntu 11.10.
[14:29] <Sidewinder1> pedro3005, My pleasure. :D
[14:29] <phix> somsip_: link me :)  I will md5 it incase you are trying to send me a yes | rm -fr / script :P
[14:29] <yeats> crayzee: the system enumerates drives as they're plugged in, so /dev/sdX is never persistent
[14:29] <luca> Atlantic777: no, wait, maybe Ubuntu... I don't even remember... :-)
[14:29] <oCean> pedro3005: glebihan it's actually still downloading in /tmp, but the filehandle is immediately deleted. You can see that by running  lsof -n | grep -i deleted when playing a youtube vid
[14:30] <Atlantic777> luca: uh, I don't have any machine with 11.10 atm, I'll try on 11.04.
[14:30] <arcaico> elgaton wait a minute guy, I'm doing this
[14:30] <crayzee> yeats, but why's that causing my raid1 array issues? It seems to work when the device is /dev/sdb but not when it's /dev/sdf though /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf just lists a UUID for it.
[14:30] <somsip_> phix: no idea what you mean. I downloaded 7.0 a while back and upgraded using Tools|Updates.
[14:30] <jleeuwes> my gnome-settings-daemon catches the key combination super (windows key) + P. I have no clue why. xev doesn't register that combination. gnome-settings-daemon outputs some rubbish (http://paste.ubuntu.com/750325/) when the combo is pressed. one of the media keys on my laptop has the same effect. does anyone have any clue what is going on?
[14:30] <luca> Atlantic777: seems like the package is not working at all.
[14:31] <yeats> crayzee: I'm not sure - you might ask in #ubuntu-server
[14:31] <crayzee> yeats, ta
[14:31] <Sidewinder1> oCean, Good thing you imparted that here and not the forums; you'd have received some points. ;-)
[14:31] <phix> somsip_: url me
[14:31] <smatic> anyone know how to help remove the bar down gnome2 from a configuration file
[14:32] <somsip_> phix: from the netbeans home page
[14:32] <oCean> Sidewinder1: hehe :)
[14:32] <Sidewinder1> oCean, They get "betond hot" on that topic..
[14:32] <Sidewinder1> beyond, even.
[14:33] <Atlantic777> luca: do you have dhcpd alias? man you run dhpcd from terminal?
[14:33] <Atlantic777> luca: woops, my bad, dhcpd != dhcp server
[14:33] <arcaico> elgaton http://pastebin.com/1kw7hmrT
[14:33] <oCean> Sidewinder1: I could even show that the actual (flash)file is still recoverable by pulling it from /proc/<pid>/fd/
[14:34] <arcaico> elgaton, http://pastebin.com/1kw7hmrT
[14:34] <elgaton> arcaico: Looking at it
[14:34] <luca> Atlantic777: is there any other way to have a dhcp server for my network?
[14:35] <Sidewinder1> oCean, :D
[14:35] <Thraspic> Other than urxvt (urxvtd & urxvtc) what other terminal emulators use a daemon/client model?
[14:35] <phix> somsip_: 13 days to download, I reckon I could download it faster from your connection :)
[14:35] <ese> Atlantic777: I had my system going to screen saver now and then. please help.
[14:35] <phix> link me with netbeans-7.0.1-ml-linux.sh <3
[14:35] <Atlantic777> luca: sudo service isc-dhcp-server restart
[14:35] <Atlantic777> ese: I don't use X. sorry :P
[14:36] <elgaton> arcaico: If you look at <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases>, you will see that Ubuntu Hardy has reached end of life
[14:36] <luca> This is working. But it is failing to start.
[14:36] <elgaton> arcaico: Upgrade to the latest Ubuntu version (either LTS or normal)
[14:36] <smatic> GNOME Menu Tips
[14:36] <smatic> Speed Tweak
[14:36] <smatic> You can remove the delay in GNOME menus by running this command:
[14:36] <Atlantic777> luca: now we are hunting for dhcp server conf? :D
[14:36] <arcaico> yes...I know but I need to run this OS in a friendly arm, embbeded system
[14:37] <arcaico> elgaton  yes...I know but I need to run this OS in a friendly arm, embbeded system
[14:37] <bekks> arcaico: But it isnt supported anymore.
[14:37] <arcaico> oi eu sou o trutinha e sou muito gay
[14:37] <luca> Atlantic777: yes, now I should try to understand what is wrong, but this i s a step forward, thanks :-)
[14:37] <elgaton> arcaico: When a release reaches EOL the packages and list files are removed from the server, that explains the error.
[14:37] <luca> Atlantic777: I was trying to understand how to check the log in syslog, do you know how to do that?
[14:37] <elgaton> arcaico: Ubuntu 11.10 supports ARM: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM
[14:37] <luca> Atlantic777: I've never done this in Ubuntu.
[14:37] <MisterMom> is alsa built into the kernel in ubuntu 11.10 ? anyone
[14:38] <oCean> !pt | arcaico
[14:38] <Atlantic777> luca: check /etc/default/isc-dhcp-server
[14:39] <arcaico> elgaton, I need to install the JRE sun-java6-jre on ubuntu karmic, what repository must I use?
[14:39] <luca> Atlantic777: I already setup my interface there. eth1.
[14:39] <elgaton> arcaico: You'll have to install manually since Sun Java has been removed for licensing reasons.
[14:39] <elgaton> arcaico: Just download from Oracle's Web site or use OpenJDK.
[14:39] <n0yd> Hey, im installing LTS (Really cant stand the last two versions of ubuntu).  While installing I get errors, mainly "cant find medium on /dev/sr0", which is obviously the cd-rom drive.  I googled a bit, this error seems to pop up quite a bit but without a deffinite solution.  Any ideas?
[14:40] <Atlantic777> luca: that's something with dhcp config, try #ubuntu-server
[14:40] <luca> Atlantic777: thanks!
[14:41] <Atlantic777> luca: you're welcome :)
[14:41] <pie_> how would i get the stable version of this for i386?: http://www.emdebian.org/crosstools.html
[14:42] <pie_> whoops i think i just figured it out..
[14:42] <kla> n0yd: I remember that used to happen to me because the SATA cable was plugged poorly
[14:43] <desmend> desmend is chroot
[14:44] <phix> why is it called isc-dhcp-server?  that really threw me off when trying to restart dhcpd
[14:44] <phix> debian done it too!
[14:44] <phix> I thought something deleted the init script
[14:45] <phix> stupid maintainers changing stuff
[14:45] <Atlantic777> phix: are you a maintainer?
[14:45] <kla> phix: it changed quite a long time ago
[14:46] <phix> kla: I know, it still gets me
[14:46] <phix> kla: they should of changed the conf file dir as well
[14:46] <phix> kla: just to be consistant
[14:46] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:46] <phix> kla: /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf, I forgot about the whole isc append thing
[14:47] <kla> phix: they probably thought in case some other dhcp server is written and installed to provide dhcp3-server it would use the same configs
[14:48] <phix> kla: so why didnt their pre-install script convert it?
[14:49] <phix> sounds like laziness to me, if they want to be mofos and change the init script and package name they should go all the way
[14:49] <phix> otherwise it is inconsistent, misleading and confusing
[14:49] <sushil_> Hi..I have installed Ubuntu with windows xp and having old system monitor . Now the problem is that , by mistake I have Increase the resolution of my windows and getting the the error message on booting "Resolution out of range" . I have tried to rectify it through the GRUB but not succeed. Pls help how to resolve it
[14:49] <arcaico> elgaton: I need to use this JVM from SUN because I use an source code that has an library that only runs at SUN
[14:50] <arcaico> elgaton: I tried to use on OpenJDK but doesnt runs
[14:50] <dr_willis> sushil_:  the /etc/default/grub file has a option to disable the fancy graphical grub menu and use a 'should always work' text menu.
[14:50] <dr_willis> sushil_:  uncomment the line in the file. save, rerun sudo update-grub
[14:51] <sushil_> dr_wills : thanx but how to open that file
[14:51] <sushil_> dr_willis : thanx but how to open that file
[14:51] <dr_willis> gksudo geany /etc/default/grub
[14:51] <dr_willis> line of interest.....
[14:51] <dr_willis> # Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only)
[14:51] <dr_willis> GRUB_TERMINAL=console
[14:52] <dr_willis> Or you could set some other modes below.. but i always just use the text mode.
[14:52] <dr_willis> if you want grub to beep a tune at you when it gets loaded... end of the file....
[14:52] <dr_willis> #for the "Close Encounters" greeting message
[14:52] <dr_willis> GRUB_INIT_TUNE="480 900 2 1000 2 800 2 400 2 600 3"
[14:52] <FloodBot1> dr_willis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:52] <markybob> my video card died and i'm looking to replace it. any suggestions on one with great linux support with proprietary drivers? i dont game but do watch hd movies
[14:53] <markybob> without*
[14:53] <MeQuerSat> markybob: any nvidia card
[14:54] <Arttu_> Hey
[14:54] <dr_willis> any nvidia in your budget.. one that dident just 'come out this month' would be best. :)
[14:55] <markybob> no worries there, i'm poor as hell :) hell
[14:55] <markybob> thanks
[14:55] <Arttu_> I got a problem with my Ubuntu 11.10 installation
[14:56] <MeQuerSat> markybob, or an old AMD card (HD4850) 2nd handed is a good choice too
[14:56] <MeQuerSat> the newer cards have bad drivers
[14:56] <compdoc> I just replaced a perfectly good ati 4850 because it wont play bf3 well
[14:57] <MeQuerSat> for movies its fine though
[14:58] <bekks> For just surfing, too.
[14:58] <compdoc> sure
[14:59] <ese> I had my system going to screen saver now and then. please help.
[15:00] <ese> I haven't touched the screen saver configuration. It just comes by itself.
[15:01] <phix> 69% [++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++                                                     ] 147,978,570 --.-K/s  eta 14d 23h
[15:01] <phix> can has netbeans yet?
[15:01] <phix> some one post me a link to another mirror
[15:01] <MeQuerSat> 14d is only 2 weeks
[15:01] <MeQuerSat> no biggie
[15:02] <kurtul> my 11.04 cannot find the new release to upgrade. ?
[15:02] <phix> dlc.sun.com.edgesuite.net is the worste
[15:02] <P1upp> Whats wrong when different videoplayers all have the problem of small glitches when the movie is movintg too fast (i.e. fast panning or much movement)?
[15:02] <phix> can someone download this link and tell me what the mirror is? --> wget -c 'http://download.netbeans.org/netbeans/7.0.1/final/bundles/netbeans-7.0.1-ml-linux.sh'
[15:03] <phix> I keep getting dlc.sun.com.edgesuite.net
[15:03] <phix> the worst mirror ever
[15:03] <lousygarua> does someone know how can i do an equivalent command of lspci/lsusb/lshw on a win 7? i want to buy a laptop and dual boot it with the oem OS, thanks
[15:03] <bekks> phix: Then choose another mirror.
[15:03] <phix> bekks: I canbt!
[15:03] <MeQuerSat> 10% [==>                                    ] 21,823,525  4.61M/s  eta 42s
[15:03] <Trumpf> hello
[15:03] <MeQuerSat> Connecting to dlc.sun.com.edgesuite.net
[15:03] <bekks> lousygarua: There isnt.
[15:03] <phix> MeQuerSat: what is the mirror is links to?
[15:03] <phix> gay
[15:04] <MeQuerSat> your connection just sucks :P
[15:04] <phix> put it on your apache server and link me ;)
[15:04] <MeQuerSat> hmm
[15:04] <MeQuerSat> okay
[15:04] <Spacewalker> phix: Please stop using the word "gay" as an insult.
[15:04] <phix> MeQuerSat: my connection is awesome, just not to dlc.sun.com.edgesuite.net
[15:04] <lousygarua> bekks, O_O so i need one of these nice special programs that list the hardware?
[15:04] <phix> Spacewalker: sorry mate
[15:04] <MeQuerSat> only have a lighttpd2 server though :/
[15:04] <Spacewalker> np.
[15:04] <phix> Spacewalker: what is more appropriate for this channel?
[15:05] <bekks> lousygarua: No. All you need is the device manager.
[15:05] <Trumpf> is there some one there can help to get the old menu in ubuntu back?
[15:05] <phix> Spacewalker: bugger?
[15:05] <Spacewalker> phix: "That's not good." or so.
[15:05] <bekks> lousygarua: And this isnt ##windows ;)
[15:05] <MeQuerSat> phix, pm me
[15:05] <kla> phix: seems good here
[15:05] <Spacewalker> (Thanks a lot for respecting that btw :) )
[15:06] <phix> Spacewalker: ok :)  I aim to please
[15:06] <lousygarua> bekks, sorry, i knew it would raise the ##windows issue :)
[15:06] <phix> lousygarua: I will answer you!
[15:06] <bekks> phix: Please dont do in here - this is ubuntu support :)
[15:06] <phix> whether it be a ##windows question or a ##single-malt-scotch question
[15:06] <lousygarua> :)
[15:07] <phix> lousygarua: aawwww, I will PM if that is cool
[15:08] <lousygarua> phix, you can, but only if u have lovely answer
[15:08] <jrib> Trumpf: you don't want to use unity?
[15:09] <Trumpf> jrib i want the old ubuntu grafic, and not the new
[15:09] <jrib> !nounity | Trumpf
[15:09] <jrib> Trumpf: personally, I'd recommend trying xfce
[15:10] <phix> lousygarua: I has the best answers!! although they are poportionally better than the question, ask a crap question and you get a slightly better answer :)
[15:11] <Ashfame> How do I make Ubuntu recognize all of my RAM? It only detects 3.2GB on my 64 bit OS
[15:11] <elhoir> hello, theres a thing i cant understand about ubuntu
[15:12] <kla> Ashfame: how much RAM is installed?
[15:12] <Ashfame> 3.2GB out of 6GB installed. (Earlier had 2 X 1GB, added 2 X 2GB)
[15:12] <elhoir> precise pangolin will have kernel 3.2.0 --- how so? 3.2.0 isnt stable yet! could someone explain?
[15:12] <czardoz> my proxy requires authentication. how can i store the username and password in firefox?
[15:12] <jrib> !precise | elhoir
[15:13] <elhoir> thanks jrib :)
[15:13] <phix> Ashfame: erh, you installed the 64bit version?
[15:14] <phix> Ashfame: how much does your bios say you have?
[15:14] <Ashfame> phix: yes I have been running the 64 bit version only, just upgraded the RAM today
[15:14] <Ashfame> BIOS says 6GB, lshw detects 6GB too
[15:14] <phix> Ashfame: hmmmm
[15:14] <phix> what does uname -a say?
[15:14] <Ashfame> phix: Even a live boot of 10.10 usb uses only 3.2GB
[15:14] <phix> what does free -m say?
[15:15] <Ashfame> phix: Linux ashfame-desktop 3.0.0-13-generic #22-Ubuntu SMP Wed Nov 2 13:27:26 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:15] <MeQuerSat> Trumpf, dont like Unity? Give Gnome Shell a try
[15:15] <Ashfame> phix: free -m shows acc to 3.2GB
[15:15] <dd070> hi all
[15:15] <phix> hey dr dd070!
[15:16] <dd070> I just read that there is a browser  - chromium
[15:16] <phix> what is ashfame?
[15:16] <MeQuerSat> Ashfame, could it be that you assigned 2.8gb to your integrated graphics? :/
[15:16] <phix> dd070: yes, google chrome
[15:16] <Troff> hello
[15:16] <phix> hi Dr Troff!
[15:16] <Troff> spanish?
[15:16] <elhoir> 2.8gb to graphics? O_O
[15:16] <Ashfame> MeQuerSat: I have a ATI card, so didn't assign anything to it
[15:16] <phix> Troff: nadda
[15:16] <Ashfame> phix: Sorry didn't get you
[15:16] <Troff> hi ohix
[15:17] <Troff> phix
[15:17] <phix> Troff: that is all the spanish I know
[15:17] <dd070> phix: is officially provided by google for linux systems?.
[15:17] <phix> dd070: is the open source vers compiled by a nice chap
[15:17] <MeQuerSat> Ashfame, sometimes there is a certain Memory mapping option in the BIOS
[15:17] <phix> Ashfame: look in your bios!!!1
[15:17] <MeQuerSat> maybe switch it and see if it helps
[15:18] <dd070> phix: what is nice chap ?
[15:18] <MeQuerSat> nice chap = nice guy
[15:18] <MeQuerSat> ;)
[15:18] <Ashfame> MeQuerSat, phix: There are not much options there. Still I will pay one more visit to it and get back
[15:18] <phix> dd070: nice guy :)
[15:19] <phix> dd070: a ubuntu maintainer
[15:19] <phix> although some of the ubuntu maintainers are lazy, like the guy who maintains the dhcp3-server package
[15:19] <dd070> phix: oh cool. can I use chromium to test web page for google chrome compatibility ?
[15:19] <phix> dd070: correct
[15:20] <phix> dd070: or you could run windows in a virtual machine :)
[15:20] <phix> but use ubuntu as the host OS as ubuntu is great
[15:20] <phix> MeQuerSat: thnx for the translation :P
[15:20] <dd070> phix: oh. you mean windows inside ubuntu ?.
[15:20] <phix> dd070: yes
[15:20] <phix> dd070: Virtual Machine
[15:20] <phix> dd070: libvirt, kvm, virtualbox, vmware, etc....
[15:22] <dd070> cool. I thought vms are for windows to run ubuntu.
[15:22] <dd070> I have dual boot currently. not using vm.
[15:22] <phix> dd070: no, you dont run a stable OS under an unstable OS, that is just counter-productive
[15:23] <compdoc> virtualbox is best if you need graphics and sounds
[15:23] <phix> dd070: use windows VM under a linux host
[15:23] <compdoc> and dont beleive what they tell you - windows is stable
[15:23] <phix> compdoc: except oracle will mess up the licence like it did with java and netbeans, then ubuntu wont package it any more
[15:24] <timidturtle> Hello
[15:24] <phix> windows is stable for low values of stable
[15:24] <phix> windows also reduces TCO
[15:24] <dd070> phix: what is TCO ?
[15:24] <phix> or so microsoft says
[15:24] <phix> total cost of ownership
[15:25] <a34154ek> anyone know how to install windows xp from a bootable flash drive?
[15:25] <phix> a34154ek: I do!!
[15:25] <a34154ek> phix: tell me!!
[15:25] <a34154ek> and please dont say unetbootin
[15:25] <phix> a34154ek: first you install ubuntu, then virtualbox, then insert the usb drive with a windows iso image on it, then open up virutal box click new, then select the iso image as the installation media
[15:25] <dd070> I boot to windows only when client bugs me for chrome compatibility of web page.
[15:26] <phix> dd070: that is why virtual machines are usefull, you never need to reboot into windows to test out something in windows
[15:26] <joljam> I am having problems installing ubuntu 11.04 alongside windows 7 in my new lenovo laptop. I used the ubuntu disk for the installation. No errors showed up during the installation. When I reboot, GRUB does not show up at all. Unfortunately the retailer is not giving my the windows installation disk. So i cannot experiment beyond a certain point
[15:26] <a34154ek> phix: i dont want to install it virtually, i wanna install it actually! On a real partition!
[15:27] <phix> a34154ek: that is idiotic
[15:27] <Ashfame> phix: Got nothing from BIOS, all I have is the options to change the running frequency and latency
[15:27] <a34154ek> phix: im not really a linux expert
[15:27] <phix> a34154ek: the only reason you would do that if you want to play games that wine doesnt support
[15:27] <dd070> is chromium more lightweight than FF ?.
[15:28] <dd070> similar to their windows versions!!
[15:28] <a34154ek> ok, will doing what u have said allow me to boot windows WITHOUT first booting into linux?
[15:28] <phix> dd070: benchmark it
[15:28] <phix> a34154ek: why would you want to do that?
[15:28] <phix> a34154ek: you are asking in a linux channel afterall
[15:28] <phix> ntloader can boot grub
[15:29] <phix> but there is no reason to do that :)
[15:29] <phix> grub is better than ntloader so you may as well use that
[15:29] <Ashfame> MeQuerSat: Got nothing from BIOS, all I have is the options to change the running frequency and latency
[15:29] <phix> lilo is even better than ntloader
[15:29] <timidturtle> Iḿ having some problems setting up a network tunnel in ubunyu ... does anyone know what Iḿ talking about?
[15:29] <phix> a34154ek: if you REALLY want to do it I suggest googling linux boot ntloader
[15:30] <phix> timidturtle: I do
[15:30] <timidturtle> ubuntu ...
[15:30] <phix> timidturtle: what type of tunnel?
[15:30] <phix> openvpn? ipv4inipv6? ipsec?
[15:30] <phix> pptp?
[15:30] <phix> ssh?
[15:30] <timidturtle> ssh
[15:30] <phix> ok
[15:30] <phix> what is the issue?
[15:31] <MeQuerSat> Ashfame, weird
[15:31] <govatent> Does the ubuntu.com page have translations? I am converting someone to ubuntu but I would like to give them the site in their language.
[15:31] <phix> you want to setup auto-forwards?
[15:31] <MeQuerSat> Ashfame, did you install the regular Ubuntu 11.10 amd64 ?
[15:31] <MeQuerSat> govatent, which language are you looking for?
[15:31] <phix> Ashfame: type in uname a
[15:31] <phix> Ashfame: type in uname -a
[15:31] <timidturtle> right so there are two ... and the numbers all seem to match up. It seems like it connects, but no info gets through.
[15:31] <Ashfame> MeQuerSat: Actually I upgraded the 11.04 (64bit only) to 11.10
[15:32] <Ashfame> phix: Linux ashfame-desktop 3.0.0-13-generic #22-Ubuntu SMP Wed Nov 2 13:27:26 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:32] <arcaico>  Hello I want to install the Sun's JVM, but I need the sun-java6-bin for arm9...anybody know something?
[15:32] <phix> timidturtle: what is the command you are running? what ports are you trying t forward? does your ISP block ports?
[15:32] <phix> Ashfame: hmmmm
[15:32] <timidturtle> eh let me see ...
[15:32] <phix> Ashfame: no idea mate
[15:32] <phix> Ashfame: update your BIOS maybe?
[15:33] <Ashfame> phix: But BIOS does show 6GB of RAM
[15:33] <phix> Ashfame: linux x86_64 can pick up a few terrabytes or ram, probably more
[15:33] <Ashfame> phix: Yes that I know. 64bit is behaving like 32 bit :/
[15:33] <phix> Ashfame: yeah but it isn't translating it to linux correctly, either BIOS issue or version of linux doesn support your mobo correctly
[15:34] <MeQuerSat> Ashfame, ubuntu is exactly behaving as if it is 32bit: I suggest a fresh 11.10 install
[15:34] <Ashfame> phix: anything else to try other than BIOS upgrade?
[15:34] <timidturtle> ok so Iḿ trying to set up certain ports ... then in terminal commanding config then each one seperatly ssh -N -L ....
[15:34] <phix> Ashfame: reinstall
[15:34] <joljam> my question is being forgottten:  I am having problems installing ubuntu 11.04 alongside windows 7 in my new lenovo laptop. I used the ubuntu disk for the installation. No errors showed up during the installation. When I reboot, GRUB does not show up at all. Unfortunately the retailer is not giving my the windows installation disk. So i cannot experiment beyond a certain point
[15:34] <phix> Ashfame: or buy another computer :)
[15:34] <Ashfame> MeQuerSat: I ran a bootable usb of 11.04 and that too shows 3.2GB
[15:35] <MeQuerSat> try a bootable usb of 11.10
[15:35] <Ashfame> phix: Gonna buy a Dell XPS 15z soon but need my desktop too :D
[15:35] <phix> dont buy Dell
[15:35] <phix> unless you want to get delled
[15:35] <Ashfame> MeQuerSat: ok will do that
[15:35] <Ashfame> phix: lol why?
[15:35] <Ashfame> what do you suggest?
[15:35] <Ashfame> I am from India
[15:35] <phix> cheaper to buid a computer yourself
[15:36] <Ashfame> build a laptop myself?
[15:36] <phix> Ashfame: buy the components yourself and put it together
[15:36] <Ashfame> XPS 15z is sleek
[15:36] <phix> Ashfame: oh laptop
[15:36] <phix> Ashfame: asus <3
[15:36] <Ashfame> will check out ASUS too, thanks
[15:36] <phix> Ashfame: I am using an asus now :D
[15:37] <timidturtle> sigh
[15:37] <phix> ASUS G51J - i7-720QM,
[15:37] <phix> timidturtle: ?
[15:37] <popop> :)
[15:37] <popop> ;)
[15:37] <popop> pppp :(
[15:37] <Ashfame> phix: will check that out once I fix this RAM issue :)
[15:37] <MeQuerSat> only thing Ive learned from different laptop manufacturers: as long as you buy a consumer laptop, customer service will be bad
[15:37] <Ashfame> phix: thanks for the help! :)
[15:37] <phix> Ashfame: ok
[15:37] <phix> Ashfame: any time pal!
[15:38] <phix> MeQuerSat: who needs customer service though?
[15:38] <Ashfame> MeQuerSat: thanks for the help! I will attempt to boot from a 11.10 bootable usb :)
[15:38] <phix> MeQuerSat: as long as they have a web based RMA you are fine
[15:38] <MeQuerSat> phix: business customer service from HP repaired my laptop in a week, including shipping
[15:39] <phix> MeQuerSat: you should beable to diagnose the issue your self and fill in the correct RMA forms
[15:39] <MeQuerSat> shipping and repair takes several weeks for the regular customer service
[15:40] <phix> MeQuerSat: depends where you live
[15:40] <MeQuerSat> yeah
[15:40] <timidturtle> In advanced connection settings Iḿ setting up a manual proxy. I have the values for the http ssl and socks host, but I don for the ftp... could this be my problem?
[15:40] <phix> ASUS has a few offices in US that can repaur stuff pretty quick
[15:41] <phix> I live in AU so I have to ship my stuff to taiwan or someplace, but still, taiwan is pretty close to me so doesnt take too long
[15:41] <phix> 8hrs - 12 hrs to send there, repair, send back, total time like 3 or 5 days
[15:43] <a34154ek> phix: sry i had to leave this for 10 min...whats ntloader?
[15:43] <phix> a34154ek: it is the windows 2000+ boot loader
[15:43] <timidturtle> right well Iḿ going to kick around some more and see if this problem solves itself, thanks anyway ... though I don have any idea who was talking to me lol ...
[15:43] <phix> (includes vista and 7 too)
[15:44] <phix> (even windows nt 4 lol)
[15:44] <a34154ek> but i gotta install it from a usb drive first, man!
[15:44] <Sidewinder1> NT 3.5 as well; I believe.
[15:44] <roasted> Is there a way I can customize the way the dash menu presents applications to me? I find it obnoxious it decides to show me "most commonly used" as well as "entire applications" and even "apps available from software center." Can I configure it to have a gnome shell like response where I just see everything in one shot?
[15:44] <phix> Sidewinder1: smart ass :)
[15:44] <joljam> I am having problems installing ubuntu 11.04 alongside windows 7 in my new lenovo laptop. I used the ubuntu disk for the installation. No errors showed up during the installation. When I reboot, GRUB does not show up at all. Unfortunately the retailer is not giving my the windows installation disk. So i cannot experiment beyond a certain point
[15:44] <phix> Sidewinder1: I am not that old
[15:44] <Sidewinder1> "D
[15:44] <Sidewinder1> I am.. :-(
[15:44] <phix> Sidewinder1: I used windows 3.1 and NT 4 :)  not
[15:44] <phix> 3.5
[15:45] <dr_willis> roasted:  not at this time from what ive read.
[15:45] <roasted> dr_willis, :(
[15:45] <phix> Sidewinder1 > 28?
[15:45] <a34154ek> joljam: i know abt that
[15:45] <Sidewinder1> Wow! phix is that old. :-)
[15:45] <roasted> dr_willis, it can be so depressing to use. I like the interface but I don't like clicking 8 times to do what gnome shell does in 2 clicks.
[15:45] <a34154ek> joljam: u gotta reinstall grub using ur live cd
[15:45] <phix> Sidewinder1: I am :(
[15:45] <phix> Sidewinder1: been using computers since I was 9 :)|
[15:46] <phix> mostly playing iceman and kings quest :P
[15:46] <a34154ek> anyone know how to install windows xp from a usb drive???
[15:46] <Sidewinder1> You guys in OZ, get all the breaks. :D
[15:46] <joljam> a34154ek: how will I reinstall grub using live cd
[15:46] <phix> but still hacking around the dos prompt until 16, when I used slackware ;)
[15:46] <phix> a34154ek: shut up!
[15:46] <a34154ek> joljam: wait imma give u link, brb
[15:46] <phix> a34154ek: I told you how to do it
[15:47] <a34154ek> phix: ughhh! im a newb!
[15:47] <phix> Sidewinder1: :P
[15:47] <phix> a34154ek: I know you are1 you are still wanting to do stuff with windows!
[15:47] <phix> stop wanting to do that then you will be pro
[15:47] <vegeta59> bonjour
[15:47] <a34154ek> phix: okay! my sister shares my laptop and she wants xp, she cant work with ubuntu!!! allright?
[15:48] <phix> vegeta59: salut!
[15:48] <Sidewinder1> Probably still on AOL, as well; ot, I know; I'll stop without being asked. :D
[15:48] <AnotherTest> bonjour
[15:48] <vegeta59> a ya des francais quan meme
[15:48] <oCean> a34154ek: use ##windows channel for support, this is ubuntu only
[15:48] <oCean> !fr | vegeta59
[15:48] <phix> a34154ek: no! not alright! install a VM! or tell your sister to buy her own computer
[15:48] <AnotherTest> Pas vraiment
[15:48] <dr_willis> roasted:  i just add the apps to the panel..  :)
[15:48] <AnotherTest> Je suis un belge
[15:48] <dr_willis> roasted:  there are classic type menus you can install.
[15:48] <oCean> phix: leave it be. He can install whatever he wants
[15:48] <Sidewinder1> !fr | AnotherTest
[15:48] <AnotherTest> Sorry
[15:49] <phix> oCean: he can, but he cant ask about how to do it in a ubuntu channel :) that is just stupid
[15:49] <Sidewinder1> NP.
[15:49] <a34154ek> joljam:
[15:49] <vegeta59> ok moi du nord AnotherTest
[15:49] <phix> oCean: if course he is going to get a bias answer
[15:49] <phix> s/if/of/
[15:49] <joljam> a34154ek: i am here
[15:49] <oCean> phix: yes, he has been told to use ##windows. Stop the silly answers
[15:49] <a34154ek> joljam: google "recovering ubuntu after installing windows". hit the first link
[15:49] <BatesDarren> Yeah lads stop the silly answers!
[15:49] <phix> oCean: no such thing as silly answers :)  Just silly questions
[15:49] <roasted> dr_willis, I understand. I'm just talking in reference to the big two.
[15:49] <BluesKaj> XP is easier than ubuntu , a34154ek? ..maybe you should teach your sister the rewards of linux vs windows
[15:50] <BatesDarren> Indeed blueskaj
[15:50] <Sidewinder1> Indeed, indeed.
[15:50] <roasted> dr_willis, anyway, unity is wearing on me a bit. I must log out and switch. thanks!
[15:51] <a34154ek> okay! i give up, temme a good virtual machine software! ALREADY!!!
[15:51] <soreau> a34154ek: vbox
[15:51] <TimothyA1> how do I configure a system to reboot when it kernel panics?
[15:51] <a34154ek> will 'apt-get install vbox' do?
[15:51] <phix> oh sorry mate, didnt realise you were an op :P I will give you a bit more respect ;)
[15:52] <soreau> ! vbox | a34154ek
[15:52] <phix> a34154ek: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[15:52] <phix> a34154ek: or install the non-free version if you want USB support
[15:52] <oCean> phix: that should not matter at all. Our Code of Conduct applies to all
[15:52] <xangua> phix: op or not op, you give respect to everyone here
[15:53] <phix> oCean, xangua: ok, my bad, just responding in kind
[15:54] <a34154ek> yeah...isn't a non-free, paid?
[15:54] <bekks> a34154ek: No, just not free.
[15:54] <soreau> a34154ek: No. it just implies some of the code is not open source
[15:54] <xangua> a34154ek: you can get the non-free version from virtualbox site
[15:54] <Gale0n> I get this error: terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc'   what():  std::bad_alloc
[15:54] <Gale0n> Using apt-get
[15:54] <phix> a34154ek: no
[15:54] <phix> a34154ek: non-free == not an open source licence
[15:55] <Gale0n> I get this error using apt-get on Ubuntu 11.04 : terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc'   what():  std::bad_alloc
[15:55] <phix> a34154ek: free as in beer, not freedom of speach
[15:55] <a34154ek> phix: got it...downloading now...
[15:55] <phix> a34154ek: :)
[15:56] <phix> a34154ek: you are a fast leaner :) keep up the good work
[15:56] <a34154ek> phix: but seriously, if there was a way to install xp completely
[15:56] <phix> learner even
[15:56] <Gale0n> I get this error using apt-get on Ubuntu 11.04 : terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc'   what():  std::bad_alloc
[15:56] <Gale0n> a34154ek: there is a way
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> a34154ek: sure, virtualbox, vmware and qemu exist
[15:56] <MeQuerSat> Gale0n, do a "sudo apt-get install -f"
[15:56] <phix> a34154ek: there is, but if you cant figure it out or figure out how to use google then I suggest just installing one OS and using a VM
[15:56] <oCean> a34154ek: you can choose whatever you like. Just use ##windows channel for support.
[15:57] <phix> a34154ek: yeah what oCean said
[15:57] <a34154ek> i figure ill be able to put xp on a usb THROUGH the xp on the virtual machine
[15:57] <a34154ek> ocean: yeah ill do that
[15:57] <phix> a34154ek: haha sure
[15:57] <a34154ek> wish there was something like 'sudo apt-get  install XP' :p
[16:01] <phix> a34154ek: :/
[16:01] <phix> oCean: I am trying to restrain myself but come on!!
[16:03]  * Sidewinder1 Attempts to assist phix in restraining himself.. "D
[16:04] <The_Weather_Guy> oooo
[16:07] <kurtul> my natty can't upgrade to oneiric
[16:09] <The_Weather_Guy> Hello random people from the same IP
[16:09] <phix> kurtul: mine can
[16:09] <phix> The_Weather_Guy: hello fella
[16:10] <phix> kurtul: do_upgrade?
[16:10] <bob___> hello, I downloaded Ubuntu 11.10 32 bit from http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download, the instructions tell me to right click on th .iso file, but there does not seem to be one
[16:10] <bob___> what am I missing
[16:10] <The_Weather_Guy> Who ha
[16:10] <bob___> I got a .rar, that when extracted has a whole bunch of stuff, no .iso
[16:10] <kurtul> phix: it seems there's not such a command
[16:10] <Canaimero-b209> o.O
[16:11] <phix> kurtul: tab complete
[16:12] <phix> sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:12] <kurtul> phix: it says "No new release found"
[16:12] <xangua> you mean instructions for windows 7 bob___ ¿
[16:12] <ese> my system going to blank screen saver with no change in screen saver. please help.
[16:13] <phix> make sure there is no realease hold in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/* or /etc/apt/{preferences,preferences.d/*}
[16:13] <bob___> yes, xangua
[16:13] <bob___> i cannot find the iso
[16:13] <MeQuerSat> bob___, right click?
[16:13] <phix> ese: goto powermanagement
[16:13] <bob___> right click on what_
[16:13] <MeQuerSat> bob___, just on this link: http://www.ubuntu.com/start-download?distro=desktop&bits=32&release=latest
[16:13] <phix> ese: then tell it not to blank screen after 20 minutes
[16:13] <MeQuerSat> click*
[16:13] <xangua> you can't as you don't know where you downloaded ubuntu bob___ ¿
[16:14] <phix> bob___: right click on the internet then select download
[16:14] <bob___> i downloaded form http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[16:14] <ese> phix: yes i did check that. and no result.
[16:14] <Sidewinder1> bob___, You may wish to acquire your copy here: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/ Then, don't forget to Md5sum the ISO, prior to burning at the slowest speed, if you're doing CD, that is..
[16:14] <phix> bob___: if that doesnt work then restart your hard drive
[16:14] <a34154ek> exit
[16:14] <bob___> thanks for the sarcasm guys
[16:14] <phix> ese: so you are using ubuntu oneiric / 11.10 then?
[16:14] <phix> bob___: any time buddy
[16:14] <bob___> i cant torrent at the moment
[16:15]  * Sidewinder1 No sarcasm, here. :-)
[16:15] <MeQuerSat> bob___, just do what I said?
[16:15] <jrib> bob___: are you sure you don't have a .iso and not a .rar...?
[16:15] <bob___> yes, mequersat i am currently trying that
[16:15] <a34154ek> hey is there any way to boot an iso from grub2?
[16:15] <phix> bob___: I was the only person being sarcasic based on your quesiton, Sidewinder1 and  MeQuerSat were the people to listen to :)
[16:15] <MeQuerSat> also, bob___, sometimes if you have WinRAR installed the ISO looks like a rar archive
[16:15] <jrib> a34154ek: I believe so (don't ask me how)
[16:15] <MeQuerSat> but it actually is in fact an ISO file
[16:16] <bob___> that may the problem
[16:16] <phix> a34154ek: yes, install the iso on a disc first, then you can boot into it
[16:16] <MeQuerSat> you can do a right click on the file and select burn to disc
[16:16]  * Sidewinder1 Is humbled..
[16:16] <bob___> i am using a junky internet cafe computer
[16:16] <a34154ek> ok, how do you install a deb file?
[16:16] <bob___> just try to burn the .rar¨, ok
[16:16] <defrancisco2> hola
[16:16] <MeQuerSat> a34154ek, sudo dpkg -i /path/to/debian_archive.deb
[16:16] <a34154ek> phix: yeah funny
[16:16] <ese> phix: no I not using Oneiric, but i have installed pkgs related to mobile, one of them locks when there is no bluetooth connection. Now i have uninstalled it.
[16:16] <phix> bob___: you shouldnt torrent full stop :)
[16:16] <xangua> bob___: rename it to .iso ¿
[16:17] <phix> asakura: dpkg -i yourFile.deb
[16:17] <jrib> a34154ek: you can double click on a deb file to install it.  Only do this with deb files meant for your distribution and version
[16:17] <phix> as root, or stick sudo infront
[16:17] <Sidewinder1> !es | defrancisco2
[16:17] <jordan> bob___: don't listen to him; torrenting is nifty
[16:17] <a34154ek> jrib: thanks!
[16:18] <phix> a34154ek: stop asking stupid questions then :)
[16:18] <a34154ek> hey do any of you have problems opening up the software center?
[16:18] <chaospsychex> can someone help me to figure out how to play against the cpu in the gnome game glchess ?
[16:18] <chaospsychex> everytime it expects me to move on both sides
[16:18] <xangua> phix: please stop that
[16:18] <sweb> my dvd drive not open when i insert into drive
[16:18] <sweb> why ?
[16:18] <phix> xangua: hmmmm ok, what would be the correct answer to that question then?
[16:18] <sweb> how can i refresh it /
[16:18] <a34154ek> the software center just wont open
[16:18] <sweb> ?
[16:18] <roscarv> DF
[16:19] <ese> phix: I also hat tried 'xset -dpms' and 'setterm -blank' But no change.
[16:19] <Sidewinder1> sweb, Unrecognized media, perhaps?
[16:19] <phix> a34154ek: what are you trying to install?
[16:19] <roscarv> which one are you trying to install
[16:19] <a34154ek> phix: nothing in particular; just noticed that the software center wont open
[16:19] <sweb> Sidewinder1, the drive not appear in places
[16:19] <phix> ese: ummmm those commands wont update your distro though
[16:20] <MeQuerSat> a34154ek, or do as I told you...
[16:20] <phix> a34154ek: does the software centre give you an error message at all?  does /var/log/syslog or dmesg say anything useful/
[16:20] <Sidewinder1> sweb, Bad disk? Bad drive? Will it open other disks? If so, the disk may be bad.
[16:20] <mmoebius> a34154ek: phix: About booting, I am only aware of using grub2's loop option as shown in this article: http://www.techmantras.com/content/boot-iso-grub2    Do you know any way that actually starts the isolinux loader on the iso image from grub2?
[16:20] <phix> sweb: you put a disc in and then it opens up then you cant eject it?
[16:20] <a34154ek> phix: doesnt say anything. just wont start up
[16:20] <chaospsychex> can someone help me to figure out how to play against the cpu in the gnome game glchess ?
[16:20] <phix> sweb: or you put a disc in and you cant read it?
[16:21] <phix> a34154ek: ok, why do you want to open it for? what do you want to do with it?
[16:21] <a34154ek> phix: just have an itch
[16:21] <bob___> thanks for the help xangua, when i changes the name to .iso, it still readsas a .rar under properties. is there something else i should do_
[16:22] <Sidewinder1> Scratch it..
[16:22] <phix> a34154ek: ok, there is probably a reason why it isnt working, you should troubleshoot the issue
[16:22] <phix> bob___: ? you have a rar that you want t extract?
[16:22] <ese> phix: What should i try then, its kind of disturbing. You know i can only activate the laptop by clicking the keyboard. It doesn't work moving the mouse nor the touch pad.
[16:22] <xangua> open the windows burn program and manually select ubuntu's iso bob___
[16:22] <sushil_> Hi , I have installed ubuntu with windows and having old system monitor. By mistake i have increased the desktop resolution and getting error "Resolution out of range " on booting. Pls guide me how to resolve this
[16:23] <bob___> tes ia m burning it now, just saying that is still looks loike a rar
[16:23] <phix> ese: that is bad luck, I wish I could offer assistance but I havnt encountered that issue before
[16:23] <bob___> is there a step i skipped_
[16:23] <phix> I just install ubuntu, boot it up and it works
[16:23] <phix> bob___: is it a rar?
[16:23] <bob___> no phix, i have an iso that looks like a rar apparently
[16:23] <phix> bob___: what does file say?   file filename.rar
[16:24] <ese> phix: do you think any log or checkup that i should submit when reporting this problem in the mailing list.
[16:24] <phix> replace filename.rar with the actual name
[16:24] <bob___> ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.rar
[16:24] <sushil_> any idea ?
[16:24] <bob___> right, i did that and am now burning
[16:24] <phix> ese: ask xangua or oCean
[16:24] <MeQuerSat> bob___, its fine then
[16:25] <phix> I am not sure of the proper etticate with that
[16:25] <bob___> just that it still says rar archive under file type under properties
[16:25] <phix> (sp?)
[16:25] <phix> bob___: maybe it is a rar then
[16:25] <phix> bob___: open a terminal
[16:25] <phix> type in file filename.iso replacing filename.iso with the actual filename
[16:25] <Sidewinder1> bob___, You may wish to also, have a look here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index It's a great "how-to."
[16:26] <sweb> phix, yeah the disk have a problem
[16:27] <ese> xangua: could you please see my case with regard to screen getting blank when screen saver is not activated.
[16:28] <jen__> how do I get pcsx to work?
[16:29] <chaospsychex> can someone help me to figure out how to play against the cpu in the gnome game glchess ?
[16:29] <SolarisBoy> jen__: how did you install it?
[16:29] <angryfer1et> Hey can anyone got any tips why apache can't access the .htpasswd file in my home directory
[16:29] <angryfer1et> ?
[16:29] <jen__> SolarisBoy, well its installed fine I just dont know what format the games have to be in >.<
[16:30] <MeQuerSat> angryfer1et, check if its readable by the apache process
[16:30] <SolarisBoy> jen__: afaik it plays actual iso's or the playstation game cd's
[16:30] <angryfer1et> MeQuersat, how can I do that?
[16:30] <SolarisBoy> jen__: e.g. you would put a playstation game in and have it read the dvd-drive on your computer, or point it to a iso or image of the game
[16:31] <adilson> oi
[16:31] <MonkeyDust> polloi
[16:31] <MeQuerSat> angryfer1et, right click the file and check the Permissions tab
[16:31] <angryfer1et> Im in terminal?
[16:31] <angryfer1et> SSH to remote server :0
[16:31] <Atlantic777> angryfer1et: ls -l file
[16:31] <jen__> SolarisBoy, well I think i got a game from online
[16:31] <MeQuerSat> angryfer1et, then you can do a "chmod 664 /path/to/.htpasswd"
[16:32] <angryfer1et> -rw-r--r--
[16:32] <MeQuerSat> yeah
[16:32] <MeQuerSat> that should be readable
[16:32] <MeQuerSat> the r stands for "read"
[16:32] <MeQuerSat> check you apache logs for why the file cant be accesed
[16:33] <somsip_> angryfer1et: ls -la /home as likely that you don't have +x on your home dir
[16:34] <MeQuerSat> somsip_, I thought +x isnt needed for only reading a file?
[16:34] <SolarisBoy> you need x to switch into directory
[16:34] <somsip_> MeQuerSat: is it just +x to ls in the dir then? Never did figure that one out...
[16:34] <sushil_> Hi , I have installed ubuntu with windows and having old system monitor. By mistake i have increased the desktop resolution and getting error "Resolution out of range " on booting. Pls guide me how to resolve this
[16:34] <angryfer1et> How do I add the +x
[16:34] <angryfer1et> ?
[16:34] <guest32-093e-> does anyone knoe a usb wireless adapter that will work out of the box with ubuntu that you can get at wal-mart or staples?
[16:34] <MeQuerSat> chmod +x /path
[16:34] <SolarisBoy> chmod +x,.. you should first check the perms//
[16:34] <guest32-093e-> know*
[16:35] <SolarisBoy> not a good idea to blindly add +x
[16:35] <inzi> hey guys
[16:35] <angryfer1et> Well where is a better place to put an htaccess passwrod file?
[16:35] <SolarisBoy> angryfer1et: better question how is your apache configured?
[16:36] <inzi> has anyone been experiencing extreme video lags with Flash On ubuntu.. on windows i can stream videos fine..on ubuntu big lag.. any fixes?
[16:36] <^Mike> Where can I report a bug against sshfp using launchpad's web interface?
[16:36] <guest32-093e-> inzi, i have problems with flash on windows
[16:36] <angryfer1et> SolarisBoy what mean you. Im using .htaccess and
[16:36] <guest32-093e-> not as many
[16:36] <guest32-093e-> though
[16:36] <angryfer1et> sorry, i;m using this method https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingUseOfApacheHtaccessFiles
[16:36] <SolarisBoy> angryfer1et: apache needs atleast a hint to know what the .htpasswd file is.. generally it is there by default.. however some setting can cause problems with it being read... so im asking how is yours configured?
[16:37] <SolarisBoy> angryfer1et: the users homes... who are the files owned by.. the user them self i presume?
[16:37] <angryfer1et> Oh i tell apache where it is in the .htacess file in the root of the web server. AuthUserFile /your/path/.htpasswd
[16:37] <angryfer1et> AuthName "Authorization Required"
[16:37] <angryfer1et> AuthType Basic
[16:37] <angryfer1et> require valid-user
[16:37] <FloodBot1> angryfer1et: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:37] <GirlyGirl> Hi, is it possible to restore the GRUB MBR after installing Windows from Windows itself. (I know how to do so from the livecd but was wondering if I could do it quickly this way to reduce the time the computer is unusable for a task that it is currently doing))
[16:37] <angryfer1et> Whoops
[16:38] <guest32-093e-> inzi, how bad are the lags??
[16:38] <tomasi> join #ubuntu-cn
[16:38] <ese> oCean: could you please see my case with regard to screen getting blank when screen saver is not activated.
[16:38] <inzi> the video is very jerky
[16:38] <GirlyGirl> inzi: I had lag with 720p and 1080p on linux but not on Windows
[16:38] <soreau> GirlyGirl: ask in ##windows or short answer, no
[16:38] <SolarisBoy> angryfer1et: are you pointing to your file correctly? /your/path/ should be adjusted accordingly.. also have you enabled ~ directory browsing in apache? and again did you check your error log?
[16:38] <inzi> about 1sec
[16:38] <guest32-093e-> do you have a good internet connection
[16:39] <Guest84206> hello i am a new user of ubuntu, with a few problems
[16:39] <Atlantic777> GirlyGirl, soreau it is posible.
[16:39] <inzi> Girlygirl. im streaming off watchseries.eu
[16:39] <inzi> youtube is fine.
[16:39] <sinth> noob question. linux seems to be the best dev env for OpenCV work, so i installed ubuntu latest x64 in a vmware vm.  at the time of ubuntu installation, in vmware, i only gave the vm one cpu core.  now, post-ubuntu install, i'm giving it 2 cpu cores.  will things not be configured to use both cores properly?
[16:39] <sinth> i.e. should i re-install ubuntu in a new vm
[16:39] <sinth> with 2 cores given to it from the start?
[16:39] <sinth> or does it make no difference
[16:40] <Kazurik> Does anyone know of a way to download packages but not install them?
[16:40] <angryfer1et> hey SolarisBoy, it is pointing to the correct file, if I cd into the directory can cat the file it is there. The error log says its not there, adn that is I think because it is in my home dir and I cant even cat the file if I do it from an absolute path ege /home/name/path/to/file
[16:40] <guest32-093e-> inzi, sounds like a problem with watchseries.eu
[16:40] <GirlyGirl> inzi: FOr me on youtube deleting .adobe or was it .flash solved the laf for 720p
[16:40] <Guest84206> can i use my programs from windows (i.e. Adobe, vegas pro, etc.) i had some trouble
[16:40] <GirlyGirl> Atlantic777: How?
[16:40] <Anon007> Hello!
[16:40] <SolarisBoy> angryfer1et: who does apache run as is the key thing here.. you may be able to read the file but can the apache user?
[16:40] <Anon007> I could use with some help
[16:40] <sinth> Kazurik, download Synaptic package manager. when you go to install a package, it will give you the option to save but not install
[16:41] <soreau> sinth: The kernel should detect the change and configure itself accordingly. Check the output of cat /proc/cpuinfo to see
[16:41] <Atlantic777> GirlyGirl: i'm searching for that app. Simple next, next, next app.
[16:41] <hacked_kernel> webcam is not working with gtalk plugin,  I tried the LD_PRELOAD but didn't work too
[16:41] <Atlantic777> GirlyGirl: I can't remember where I saw it. :/
[16:41] <GirlyGirl> Atlantic777: If you are referring to EasyBCD that is not a solution
[16:41] <Anon007> I have this list 70 lines long right? and I need them all to be put between quotation marks.
[16:41] <Anon007> How would I go about doing that on Emacss?
[16:41] <angryfer1et> I can't even read the file if I try to cat the absolute path!
[16:41] <angryfer1et> :(
[16:41] <SolarisBoy> angryfer1et: Apache has a User and Group definition in the conf files on ubuntu it defaults to www-user... can that user read the files ? if you 'su - www-user -c "cat /path/to/.htpasswd"' does it work?
[16:41] <sinth> soreau, i'll check that, thanks
[16:41] <Kazurik> Sinth: Perfect. Thanks
[16:42] <SolarisBoy> angryfer1et: you can't?
[16:42] <Anon007> Anyone?
[16:42] <Guest84206> can i use my programs from windows (i.e. Adobe, vegas pro, etc.) i had some trouble
[16:42] <SolarisBoy> who is it owned by... user.. not perms... ?
[16:42] <angryfer1et> yea I can only cat the file if i cd into the dir and cat it
[16:42] <server_> Guest84206: I dont believe you can use adove creative suite in ubuntu.  However, there are open source alternatives availabe that you can use such as GIMP.
[16:42] <coolmag> Is it better to get the LTS of Ubuntu or just the latest>
[16:42] <Atlantic777> GirlyGirl: yes, that's it. Why it doesn't work for you?
[16:42] <SolarisBoy> angryfer1et: can you paste been you doing this?
[16:43] <SolarisBoy> arrgghh *bin
[16:43] <SolarisBoy> pastebin*
[16:43] <inzi> @girlygirl.. i'll try streaming from another site
[16:43] <inzi> will let u know shortly
[16:43]  * SolarisBoy embarassed that i said been instead of bin
[16:43] <sinth> interesting. server_ , so creative suite is basically fail in wine / crossover / etc?
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> Guest84206: adobe isn't an app, it's a software company
[16:44] <sinth> Guest84206, run them in a virtual machine perhaps
[16:44] <Guest84206> server: ok thanks. and )
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> Guest84206: check the wine appdb for compatibility
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> Guest84206: you may want to switch to opensource equivelants
[16:44] <Guest84206> i was referring to adobe programs (phtshop, premiere etc)
[16:44] <GirlyGirl> Atlantic777: I am running XP and Windows 8 developer preview. The win8 DP has permissions locked on the boot files
[16:44] <hacked_kernel> webcam is not working with gtalk plugin,  I tried the LD_PRELOAD but didn't work too
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> Guest84206: if your main system use is those apps then windows may be a better choice for you
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> hacked_kernel: does it work in cheese?
[16:45] <hacked_kernel> ActionParsnip, yes
[16:45] <Myrtti> hacked_kernel: with what gtalk plugin? in what application?
[16:45] <RamtinA> hello .i have removed these packages and now i cant connect to VPN . whic one of them should be installed?   http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_at_2011-11-26_20_07_351-K8ZqBWa2.png
[16:46] <bekks> RamtinA: Why did you remove them at all?
[16:46] <inzi> girlygirl so far videoweed.es seems to be working ok
[16:46] <Atlantic777> GirlyGirl: #(/$=EW#/ windblow$. Then there's no solution to do it from the other OS if it is prohibited. :D
[16:46] <xangua> RamtinA: tried to reinstall ubuntu-desktop ¿ to reinstall default packages
[16:46] <RamtinA> i removed just a app then they're removed
[16:47] <Guest84206> it may be, i need certain programs . if ubuntu has an equivalent i would love to switch. def wanna support anything open source
[16:47] <hacked_kernel> Mydoom, google chrome
[16:47] <hacked_kernel> Mydoom, sorry wrong msg
[16:47] <hacked_kernel> Myrtti, chrome
[16:47] <inzi> thnx.
[16:47] <inzi> girlygirl. how long have u been using ubuntu?
[16:47] <RamtinA> xangua: is that final choice?
[16:48] <bekks> RamtinA: That is first choice.
[16:48] <SolarisBoy> Guest84206: they have some alternatives not sure if they match your requirements, the gimp is pretty good
[16:48] <sinth> is there any point to specifying a -j option in make?
[16:48] <RamtinA> bekks: so there isn't another choice??
[16:48] <sinth> i have an i5 processor
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> hacked_kernel: i believe there is a flash properties app in Ubuntu that needs to allow stuff to access the cam
[16:49] <Atlantic777> sinth: yes if you have multi thread support on cpu.
[16:49] <SolarisBoy> if you have more than one cpu or core yes sinth
[16:49] <Atlantic777> sinth: ofc, that's how many cores? 4?
[16:49] <sinth> so if i have a i5, and i've given 2 cores to my ubuntu vm
[16:49] <SolarisBoy> -j3 would be cool i have an i4 also
[16:49] <sinth> yes, it's 4 cores, but only 2 for my vm
[16:49] <Atlantic777> sinth: the rule is number_of_cores+1
[16:49] <SolarisBoy> grr .. *i5.. i use -j3
[16:49] <bekks> RamtinA: it is the most easy way.
[16:49] <GirlyGirl> inzi: 2004
[16:50] <SolarisBoy> speeds up make and install a lot for me also
[16:50] <RamtinA> bekks: ok thank you !!
[16:50] <sinth> then for SolarisBoy it would be -j5 right (4 cores), and in my case, -j3
[16:50] <sinth> thanks guys
[16:50] <Atlantic777> sinth: 1 thread to rule them all, and others to do the job.
[16:50] <GirlyGirl> inzi: Sorry 2006
[16:50] <SolarisBoy> i have 4 cores i guess per the rule i would do 5,, but i use -j3
[16:50] <SolarisBoy> =(
[16:50] <inzi> GirlyGirl : Thats quite a long time
[16:50] <Atlantic777> SolarisBoy: you're not using full power. :P
[16:51] <SolarisBoy> lol i know.. i was always scared my machine would hang up =(
[16:51] <sinth> hm, looking at the man file, it seems that you do -j num_jobs
[16:51] <SolarisBoy> im not used to this i5... hehe
[16:51] <sinth> i guess it still works if you don't put in a space eh
[16:51] <inzi> GirlyGirl : i've been using it since 2009. so im still quite new.. any literiture that you could recommend i read..to know the workings of ubuntu
[16:51] <SolarisBoy> yes its fine with no space sinth
[16:51] <sinth> ty
[16:51] <angryfer1et> SolarisBoy, The www-data user can read that file fine
[16:52] <sinth> lol holy crap, this is way faster
[16:52] <sinth> what have i been doing with my life
[16:52] <SolarisBoy> angryfer1et: ok.. can you just post you apache configuration to paste bin?
[16:52] <SolarisBoy> sinth: waiting for make to finish apparently =)
[16:52] <angryfer1et> k
[16:52] <GirlyGirl> !ot | inzi
[16:54] <cmwslw> what debian package should I get to start building opengl projects?
[16:54] <parapan> Hello everyone > using ubuntu 10.04; the network manager icon was out of my upper toolbar; tried to fix that but instead I cannot browse internet anymore; what I've done was to modify /etc/NetworkManager/nm-asystem-settings.conf line ifupdown managed=true from false as default ......after restart the internet browsing didn't worked anymore
[16:54] <sinth> cmwslw, good question. i was just looking into this, i found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90890
[16:54] <inzi> oops
[16:54] <inzi> has the brightness not being saved on exit been fixed yet?
[16:54] <xangua> !panels | parapan
[16:55] <inzi> i keep having to reset my brightness everytime i restart
[16:56] <angryfer1et> SolarisBoy here is my apache.conf
[16:56] <angryfer1et> http://pastebin.com/hi4W7hwt
[16:57] <angryfer1et> Also here is my site config http://pastebin.com/v05XHYKs
[16:57] <parapan> xangua > man ....it's not about restoring the panels now... it's about some DNS translation not working anymore ....some settings which are affected ....
[16:58] <angryfer1et> The stuff I added is at the end
[16:58] <ania> hi
[16:59] <parapan> xangua: the network card is working I can ping any address from the network ...even the DNS server of the provider ...but the translation into "www.google.com" is not working
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> inzi: works fine here
[17:00] <phasma> greetings, all. Quick question. I have installed the daily build on an oldish box. (basically has just 512 ram) - oneconf is pretty resource hungry. Am I safe to remove it? It wants to remove ubuntu-desktop too (I use LXDE) - Am basically just looking to cut down on anything resource heavy
[17:00] <theadmin> parapan: Oh, so the DNS resolution doesn't work?
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> phasma: daily build of what?
[17:00] <phasma> ActionParsnip: Was the "daily-build" from unetbootin
[17:00] <phasma> Linux fragment 3.2.0-1-generic #3-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 22 11:17:48 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> phasma: then ask in #ubuntu+1
[17:01] <phasma> will do. Thanks
[17:01] <parapan> theadmin: seems so ....ping to www.yahoo.com is giving unknown host ...maybe the host file is affected or so ...
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> phasma: this is for support of released versions only, you are using Ubuntu which isn't even in alpha 1
[17:01] <theadmin> parapan: Are you using NetworkManager or configuring the network via command-line?
[17:01] <phasma> understood. Thanks for the pointer
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> phasma: I suggest you reinstall and use oneiric
[17:02] <guest32-093e-> anyone know of a usb wireless adapter that will work out of the box that has wpa/wpa2 personal capabilities?
[17:02] <theadmin> phasma: I suggest you use the minimal image and add the packages you need yourself.
[17:02] <theadmin> !minimal | phasma
[17:02] <phasma> ActionParsnip: Sadly that is not an option for me as my network device is not supported and it is my only means of connecting. I'll sort it though. Thanks again
[17:02] <SolarisBoy> angryfer1et: im checking it
[17:03] <angryfer1et> Thanks SolarisBoy
[17:03] <parapan> theadmin: I used Network Manager .....but I was out from my upper panel so I've replaced with the network applet from System/Preferences/Network Connection . . .
[17:03] <theadmin> parapan: Well, whatever is the NM way for that, try setting your DNS servers to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[17:03] <kurisu> hi guys, does anyone know of a way to generate color ascii art that is terminal (ncurses) formatted?/
[17:04] <theadmin> parapan: Those are Google's public DNS servers, in case you don't know and are wondering.
[17:04] <kurisu> I want to add some ascii images to a c program I'm writing for an assignment but can only find black andd white or img to html
[17:04] <parapan> theadmin: after that, trying to restore the network Manager applet I've modified /etc/NetworkManager/nm-asystem-settings.conf line ifupdown managed=true from false as default .. ..
[17:05] <jrib> zquit
[17:05] <Icehawk78> Are there any packages similar to gvoice-notifier available for 11.10 to put Google Voice into the unity messaging center?
[17:05] <angryfer1et> SolarisBoy I have restarted my apache again and it is working. Don't know why, I restarted it a bunch of times. Thanks for your time, I really apreciate it.
[17:05] <SolarisBoy> angryfer1et: can you place the 'AccessFileName .htaccess' within the vhost stanza reload apache and try again?
[17:05] <theadmin> parapan: Try just running "nm-applet &disown" from a terminal, or adding "nm-applet" to the startup apps.
[17:05] <parapan> theadmin: you suggest to change the DNS of internet provider with the ones of google ??? doesnt matter because another computer on the same network is working fine ......
[17:05] <SolarisBoy> angryfer1et: oh
[17:05] <SolarisBoy> heh
[17:05] <angryfer1et> :D
[17:05] <theadmin> parapan: oic.
[17:06] <angryfer1et> "Have you tried turning it off and on again"
[17:06] <francio> #ubuntu
[17:06] <theadmin> francio: Yes, this is the place.
[17:06] <SolarisBoy> yea it looks pretty straight,, the configs that it... was wondering what would have been the issue.. yes generally thats the case.. ACCEPT for .htaccess... you can add changes there and dont need to reload as apache reads it in when looking up the directories
[17:06] <SolarisBoy> angryfer1et: cool
[17:06] <francio> hi everybody
[17:07] <cablop> solaris?
[17:07] <SolarisBoy> ?
[17:07] <cablop> are you a solaris user?
[17:07] <SolarisBoy> yes why?
[17:07] <cablop> just wondering :)
[17:07] <parapan> theadmin: An instance of nm-applet is already running / Couldn't initialize  D-BUS manager
[17:07] <SolarisBoy> lol cablop did i do anything to give it away =)
[17:07] <theadmin> SolarisBoy: Wait, Solaris still exists?
[17:08] <maxxx> theadmin, the reason # is other session are not friendly and always mis-leading.
[17:08] <bekks> theadmin: Sure.
[17:08] <SolarisBoy> theadmin: yes
[17:08] <cablop> small question, SolarisBoy, is solaris too different from linux?
[17:08] <bekks> cablop: Yes.
[17:08] <SolarisBoy> cablop: its unix based
[17:08] <bekks> cablop: It is a UNIX, not a Linux.
[17:08] <theadmin> cablop: Solaris and Linux are nothing alike...
[17:08] <SolarisBoy> indeed
[17:08] <cablop> i wanted to try opensolaris months ago...
[17:08] <francio> I have a ubuntu 10.04 network how do I upgrade to 10.10 instead of 12.10 straight away?
[17:08] <SolarisBoy> cablop: cool
[17:08] <francio> sorry 10.04 netbook release
[17:09] <jrib> francio: in your upgrade settings, you can change "lts only" to "all releases"
[17:09] <cablop> but, the people of solaris channel here was so bad tempered, a very very different community of linux and ubuntu channels... they even banned me for asking if opensolaris would run on vbox... so i decided to stop trying
[17:09] <francio> great thx a lot jrib
[17:10] <xangua> francio: to upgrade from LTS to a normal release, go to software center - edit - sources and in the Update tab enable normal release upgrades
[17:10] <maxxx> francio, if you are in 10.04 if you update it will automatically tell you for the next version ..simply click it.
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | francio
[17:10] <cablop> francio network?
[17:11] <SunliteDawn> Linux Mint 12 is out
[17:11] <zamba> how can i disable the animation when changing workspaces?
[17:11] <zamba> SunliteDawn: and thanks for that! :)
[17:12] <dotblank> zamba, !combiz
[17:12] <zamba> SunliteDawn: i'm using linut mint myself after that stupid 11.10 upgrade
[17:12] <SunliteDawn> sadly ubuntu declies
[17:12] <SunliteDawn> declines
[17:12] <dotblank> !compiz
[17:12] <zamba> SunliteDawn: declines what?
[17:12] <sinth> has anyone successfully built opencv with QT support lately?
[17:12] <oCean> SunliteDawn: mint has nothing to do with this channel
[17:12] <cablop> francio why do you want to upgrade 10.04 to 10.10... one tip... 10.10 packages are not high priority so you are going to end with some broken things NOBOY is ghoing to fix NEVER
[17:12] <maxxx> SunliteDawn, why you want him to divert ..to mint if he's using ubuntu 10.04 and want to upgrade
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> francio: if you can hang til April you can upgrade instantly to 12.04 in one jump
[17:13] <sinth> i'm considering doing QT stuff, and i'm strongly tempted to try installing the QT SDK installer from QT website (instead of getting QT components from (ubuntu?) package repo).. is this just a bad idea? (trying to resolve compiler issues)
[17:14] <cablop> sinth, to be honest, this is the way i do, i avoid to use the ubuntu packages of some hings like eclipse and so on
[17:15] <Gentoo64>  bear in mind deps arent counted for etc when installling manually
[17:15] <sinth> yeah, i'm kind of a linux noob, so i'm fearful of breaking everything
[17:15] <sinth> i guess i'll make a copy of my linux vm
[17:15] <sinth> and try installing QT SDK
[17:15] <Gentoo64> try to stay with the package manager unless you really have to not
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> sinth: great way :)
[17:16] <Vedia> hi I had problem with with gnome 3
[17:16] <Vedia> what is driver fallback?
[17:16] <maxxx> sinth, save the copy and you can try all the stuff and things get into mess simply revert simpe.. :))
[17:16] <cablop> Vedia: many people on the same wagon xD
[17:16] <Gentoo64> Vedia: when your gpu dont support shell
[17:17] <sinth> yea
[17:17] <Gentoo64> either its a bad gpu or the driver isnt fast enough for the 3d accel needed
[17:17] <induz>  how can i manage pictures/photos on my iPOD 1st gen 8 Gb on Ubuntu 10
[17:17] <Gentoo64> what gpu is it?
[17:17] <pist0l-fish> hi all. not usually a ubuntu user. i got textlive-full from apt-get, but it according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LaTeX , this is really old (2009). what repo can i use to get more recent tex builds?
[17:17] <induz> I have GpixPod but I need documents to make it working[ how tos]
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> induz: does it show as a mountable file system when you plug it in?
[17:18] <Vedia> so i need to upgrade graphic card?
[17:18] <induz> ActionParsnip, Yes
[17:18] <Gentoo64> pist0l-fish: google textlive ppa
[17:18] <sinth> pist0l-fish, yeah, all the texlive- stuff seems to be from 2009
[17:18] <sinth> not sure why
[17:18] <Gentoo64> you might find a ppa on google
[17:18] <sinth> what is a ppa
[17:18] <Gentoo64> unofficial repo basically
[17:18] <Gentoo64> personal one
[17:19] <Vedia> thanks to all who gave answer
[17:19] <Gentoo64> you get people / groups of people who maintain their own repos
[17:19] <Gentoo64> mostly for specific things
[17:19] <ranjan> sinth, its Personal Package Archive :)
[17:19] <pist0l-fish> Gentoo64: I'm not sure what I'm looking for here
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> induz: then fire up shotwel and tell it to look at the mount point and it will be able to do stuff
[17:19] <sinth> i see
[17:20] <induz> ActionParsnip, Yes i see an icon on my desktop and i can browse its file/folder but I dont know how to manage without iTunes as on Ubuntu I dont have
[17:20] <Vedia> thanks Gentoo64 :)
[17:21] <Gentoo64> Vedia: what graphics card do you have? an onboard one?
[17:21] <Gentoo64>  i dont know much about onboard cards but i doubt theyll be any good
[17:21] <Vedia> unichrome
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> induz: point shotwell to /media   and it should find them, tell it to import them in place
[17:21] <Gentoo64> hmm dno what that is :S
[17:22] <induz> ActionParsnip, shotwel does nothing
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> induz: did you add the folder to the config of the app?
[17:22] <sinth> anyone have any experience with Sphinx?
[17:22] <induz> ActionParsnip, no
[17:22] <induz> ActionParsnip, how to
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> induz: then that's why
[17:22] <Vedia> it seem need to downgrade
[17:22] <sovzed> hello, i am pretty new to linux. I just installed 11.10 and some apps, like irssi. I know how to execute them but, I would like to know how can i create shortcuts for my desktop/left bar. I really couldnt find any explanation on something that simple, i guess everyone knows that but i dont :P
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> induz: under the file menu
[17:23] <sinth> i'm building opencv, and it builds pdf documentation using Sphinx.  i'm wondering if it is trivial to somehow get it to build a html version of the documentation
[17:23] <induz> ActionParsnip, file--> import??
[17:23] <Gentoo64> sovzed: nor sure if theres an easy way on gnome3, other than making your own desktop file
[17:23] <maxxx> induz, don't troll here
[17:23] <sinth> i know that Sphinx has various build options (pdf, html, text, man, ..)
[17:24] <guest32-093e-> does anyone know of a usb wireless adapter that runs on linuc out of the box and also works with wpa/wpa2 personal?
[17:24] <guest32-093e-> linux
[17:24] <sinth> so i wonder if it could simply be as easy as telling Sphinx to build that crap as html
[17:24] <sovzed> Gentoo64:  i am using unity, i tried to install gnome3 but when i try to change to gnome3, in continues loading unity
[17:24] <Gentoo64> sovzed: maybe theres some program that can automate it idk, but for terminal stuff youd need to append gnome-terminal -e before it
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> induz: yes
[17:24] <sovzed> so you guys always start applications from a terminal?
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | guest32-093e-
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> sovzed: I do personally
[17:25] <Gentoo64> sovzed: no
[17:25] <induz> ActionParsnip, when i say import from folder, i dont see the iPod
[17:25] <guest32-093e-> action, im computer stupid
[17:25] <Gentoo64> sovzed: when you open a program you should be able to right click the icon and pin
[17:25] <sovzed> ah let me try
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> induz: yes, you need to show the hidden folders and point it to the ~/.gvfs folder
[17:25] <Gentoo64> but for termianl apps like irssi youd have to maker your own gnome-terminal -e irssi
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> induz: you use a mac don't you?
[17:26] <guest32-093e-> i was hoping someone counld say i use blah blah and dont have to use xp drivers for it
[17:26] <induz> ActionParsnip, yes
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> induz: thought so
[17:26] <sovzed> Gentoo64: do you know any more mIRC alike irc-app for linux than irssi?
[17:27] <Gentoo64> sovzed: xchat
[17:27] <sovzed> thanks
[17:27] <Gentoo64> is probably the best gui one
[17:27] <tmg> sovzed: BitchX
[17:27] <Gentoo64> isnt that not maintaned any more?
[17:27] <induz> ActionParsnip, now i am using ubuntu i had Macbook but i dont have now
[17:28] <pikaciu> Gentoo64: how do i copy text from a xchat session ?
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> induz: you can make life a little easier by running:  ln -s ~/.gvfs ~/Mounted
[17:28] <Gentoo64> huh?
[17:28] <Gentoo64> pikaciu: the usual copy and paste
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> sovzed: irssi is very powerful as it can use python scripts
[17:28] <tmg> pikaciu: mouse 'right click' doesnt work? then maybe ctrl+c ?
[17:29] <Gentoo64> ActionParsnip: they all an use scripts :) xchat can use perl python tcl etc
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> Gentoo64: not pidgin :)
[17:29] <Gentoo64> ActionParsnip: ah ok
[17:29] <bullgard4> !sound | Hamageddon
[17:30] <gllera>  what is the best soft to do virtualization on ubuntu server?
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> Gentoo64: although it does have plugins which can act similarly
[17:30] <Gentoo64> ive never used pidgin actually
[17:30] <induz> ActionParsnip, it says now file after running  ln -s ~/.gvfs ~/Mounted
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> gllera: there is no single best software for anything
[17:30] <sovzed> i dont know, it took me a while to learn to switch channels and i dont know how to scroll up here...not really practical imo :P
[17:30] <tmg> Gentoo64: but xchat will fail on one thing - cant run from server (except of xfwd)
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> induz: ok, use the Mounted folder in your home folder and it will show
[17:30] <Gentoo64> well yea :)
[17:31] <Gentoo64> tmg: i use both irssi and xchat, theyre both good
[17:31] <guest32-093e-> i read where people say ndiswrapper doesnt work good
[17:31] <guest32-093e-> how good is it?
[17:31] <pikaciu> tmg: thanx...
[17:31] <maxxx> gllera, i use free one's ..:))
[17:31] <Gentoo64> id give it 7.5/10
[17:31] <raven> how to display code of a website in cmd/lynx?
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> guest32-093e-: it's fine, just make sure the adapter has a broadcom 43xx chip and the driver install will be easy
[17:31] <sovzed> is there any place where i can see the name of the packages of apps to be able to dowload them via aptitude?
[17:31] <tmg> pikaciu: so, it was my bad, instead of bx use irssi
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> sovzed: apt-cache search something
[17:32] <induz> ActionParsnip,  Mounted folder in your home folder?????
[17:32] <gllera> ActionParsnip, maxxx, Ok i will use KVM ;)
[17:32] <induz> ActionParsnip, you mean to cd to home folder first??
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> induz: the 'Mounted' folder can now be used to access your mounted removable storages
[17:33] <raven> how to display code of a website in cmd/lynx?
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> induz: no, you are manipulating shotwell
[17:33] <sovzed> ActionParsnip: i installed gtalk but it doesnt seem to run, i used "gtalkd" to start it but it does nothing
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> raven: you can wget the page then view it with less
[17:34] <xangua> sovzed: you use gtalk on the gmail web, you can also use it on g+
[17:34] <raven> ActionParsnip, no way to do it more simple?
[17:34] <maxxx> raven, lynx evern thing is in text you have to figure it out what is code and text..:))
[17:35] <kurisu> does anyone know where to get a good ansi ascii art tux?
[17:35] <raven> maxxx, i need to use an embedded stream interface / asx stream url
[17:35] <induz> ActionParsnip, I dont get it as i am new to shotwell and Ubuntu
[17:36] <sovzed> xangua: but for windows there's an app called gtalk where u can see the list of contacts and also chat, isnt there something like that here?
[17:36] <xangua> sovzed: there are pidgin and empathy with support voice and video for jabber
[17:36] <xangua> wich*
[17:36] <sovzed> dunno whats jabber
[17:37] <xangua> sovzed: gtalk uses it
[17:37] <xangua> jabber is an open protocol
[17:37] <kurisu> does anyone know where to get a good ansi ascii art tux? (sorry to repost... just quit irssi by accident)
[17:37] <Ciccio00> Hi, do you know if netbeans is in ubuntu official repos?
[17:38] <xangua> !info netbeans 1 Ciccio00
[17:38] <xangua> !info netbeans
[17:38] <Ciccio00> thank you
[17:38] <maxxx> raven, you can get the steam url through the normal browser itself..why lynx
[17:38] <sovzed> if a package doesnt exist u have to install it manually like on windows?
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> induz: you are adding a folder to shotwell so it look in the folder
[17:38] <xangua> mmm weard . i can see it here on lucid, or is it on universe/multiverse¿
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> induz: the folder also contains a fodler which is how your OS accesses the crappy iPod
[17:39] <raven> maxxx because of android......
[17:39] <raven> maxxx, ssh session to a real machine
[17:39] <xangua> better check your package manager Ciccio00 ;)
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> induz: if you add the folder then shotwell will scan it and see the images stored therin
[17:39] <garden92> when i print to pdf where does the file go?
[17:39] <induz> ActionParsnip, how can i add a folder ??
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> induz: file -> import    as you asked and I said "yes"
[17:40] <maxxx> raven, i have no idea about it ...sorry
[17:40] <raven> ok
[17:41] <induz> ActionParsnip, it asks me to import from a folder but i dont see my iPod folder
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> kurisu: is it an image?
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> induz: there is no ipod folder! It's ~/Mounted   which you made earlier. Forget the device is an iPod, it is irrelevant, it's a USB drive and is mounted to a subfolder in ~/.gvfs
[17:42] <kurisu> I do have an image to use... but figured there must already be an ansi one somewhere
[17:42] <garden92> nevermind
[17:42] <maxxx> induz, i use bansee ; i do use i-pod simply to tell you i-pod sucks
[17:42] <induz> ActionParsnip, a subfolder in ~/.gvfs ???? where can i find that??
[17:42] <hylian> raven, i know you can set android up to give you console access, but as for ssh, sorry, haven't messed with android in that way. I think I ssh'ed into my account at sdf.org though,,,
[17:43] <inashdeen> hi, anyone here knows how to change the background colour of the maximize screen of ubuntu?
[17:43] <induz> maxxx, I am talking photo management
[17:43] <xangua> inashdeen: if you meamn the dash, it will use the same color your background is
[17:44] <maxxx> induz, forgot to tell you that ipod is in dumpster somewhere
[17:44] <inashdeen> xangua : not dash, ok, u know, when we pull our windows to maximize it, it will give an imaginary maximize in the backgorund?
[17:44] <mix22891> KEEP UPDATE UBUNTU!
[17:44] <induz> ActionParsnip, ok I can get to a subfolder in ~/.gvfs
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> induz: you don't need to now, you made the folder called 'Mounted', just tell shotwell to import from there
[17:44] <mix22891> i love linux!
[17:44] <mix22891> windows sux
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> mix22891: depends on requirements
[17:45] <mix22891> requirements of what?
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> mix22891: gamers wanting to play games which will not run in Winne will need to run windows. In this case, Ubuntu sux
[17:46] <mix22891> that what i'm doing
[17:46] <Braber01> Hi I've just figured out how to extend my display, how to I tell ubuntu I want my 17" moniter to be my main display instead of my laptop?
[17:46] <mix22891> windows only for games
[17:46] <mix22891> i have steam that not run games under ubunutu
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> mix22891: but for a lot of games, ubuntu sucks ;)
[17:46] <guest32-093e-> action thanks for
[17:47] <guest32-093e-> the help
[17:47] <mix22891> lol
[17:47] <mix22891> what you mean?
[17:47] <induz> ActionParsnip, the iPod has a iTune ThumbNail database not actula pictures i guess
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> induz: not sure there dude, i don't but apple rubbish :)
[17:48] <mix22891> MICROSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:48] <xangua> mix22891: stop that please
[17:48] <mix22891> ok
[17:48] <induz> ActionParsnip, how can i send u screenshot
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> induz: imageshack
[17:48] <inashdeen> bump
[17:49] <andi3> hi, how can I link/tag the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/gdb-linaro/+bug/891970 to/with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdb-msp430 ?
[17:49] <mix22891> windows are 4 kids
[17:49] <mix22891> c'ya
[17:49] <induz> ActionParsnip, see here http://i.imgur.com/T8FgP.png
[17:50] <induz> ActionParsnip, i will be right back
[17:53] <bedosaliwa> Most people on this irc are fucker bullshit who only wants to look smart by giving links and not resolving people's problem. fuck you bitches and whores
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> induz: look under the DCIM folder
[17:56] <sovzed> how can i open apps in a separate window so i can continue using the terminal without opening a new one?
[17:56] <pikaciu> type &
[17:56] <pikaciu> at the end of the command
[17:57] <pikaciu> sovzed: like totem &
[17:57] <duelle> sovzed: Or you could use screen
[17:57] <hylian> sovzed, control shift t (in gnome terminal) will give you a tabbed second terminal window
[17:57] <Gentoo64> or right click, new tab :)
[17:58] <uzr007> hello
[17:58] <hylian> sovzed, this is actually one of my pet peeves. i much prefer terminator to gnome terminal, but there is no preffered apps section anymore.
[17:59] <uzr007> I am really mad at some files called .gz
[17:59] <Gentoo64> uzr007: hi
[17:59] <uzr007> I have tried all possible tutorials
[17:59] <uzr007> but I still can't figure it out
[17:59] <sovzed> almost for every app i run, despite it runs perfectly, i get this message in the terminal "(app:numbers): Gtk-WARNING **: couldn't find blablabla module:_path: <<pixmap>>,, how can i solve this problem? if it is a problem?
[17:59] <Major7th> hi
[17:59] <uzr007> Gentoo64, hi friend
[17:59] <Gentoo64> uzr007: double click the file it should open in file-roller
[17:59] <truefx> hi guys
[17:59] <sovzed> hylian:  i am not on gnome, i tried to install it but i seem unable to start it, it continues loading unity
[17:59] <fgiw> uzr007: what about gz?
[18:00] <uzr007> Gentoo64, yeah
[18:00] <Gentoo64> or tar zxf
[18:00] <uzr007> but can I also do it in Terminal?
[18:00] <uzr007> tell me how I can do it in details
[18:00] <hylian> sovzed, unity uses gnome terminal as it's default.
[18:00] <truefx> i have choppy sount with no matter which player neeeed help
[18:00] <uzr007> my files name is tor.gz
[18:00] <uzr007> it's in downloads folder
[18:00] <truefx> *sound
[18:00] <Gentoo64> tar zxf tar.gz
[18:00] <uzr007> what do i have to do now
[18:00] <uzr007> just that?
[18:00] <uzr007> no ls or cd?
[18:00] <Gentoo64> yeah
[18:00] <Gentoo64> cd into the download folder
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> truefx: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[18:01] <sovzed> ah ok sorry
[18:01] <Gentoo64> or tar zxf /downloadfolder/tar.gz
[18:01] <pikaciu> uzr007: youcan add also 'v'
[18:01] <hylian> sovzed, when you have time, log out and see if gnome is an option.
[18:01] <uzr007> tar (child): /downloadfolder/tor.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[18:01] <uzr007> tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[18:01] <uzr007> tar: Child returned status 2
[18:01] <uzr007> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[18:01] <truefx> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=ab2d6be2518ed66f0cd1a10ca5682cff2c46ea19
[18:02] <Gentoo64> downloadfolder is the download folder
[18:02] <Exxon> hi there :))
[18:02] <truefx> here is my alsa info
[18:02] <Gentoo64> wherever its located
[18:02] <uzr007> dumb idiot :-) sorry
[18:02] <Gentoo64> tar zxf /home/uzr007/tar.gz
[18:02] <Gentoo64> :) its ok
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> or use unp
[18:03] <Gentoo64> or if you have bsdtar, its just bsdtar -x
[18:03] <sovzed> !info xampp
[18:03] <Gentoo64> bsdtar -x works for gz, or bzip2
[18:03] <Exxon> Gentoo64, he know noting about compiling let read some thing and understand before he could mess with it.
[18:03] <uzr007> wait
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> truefx: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ricotz/unstable;  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:04] <truefx>   1 upload=true&script=true&cardinfo=
[18:04] <truefx>   2 !!################################
[18:04] <truefx>   3 !!ALSA Information Script v 0.4.60
[18:04] <truefx>   4 !!################################
[18:04] <truefx>   5
[18:04] <FloodBot1> truefx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:04] <Gentoo64> Exxon: i dont think hes compiling, just extracting a file
[18:04] <uzr007> Gentoo64, allright tar zxf thingy worked
[18:04] <uzr007> what's next?
[18:05] <Exxon> Gentoo64, you are smart so be smart enough what he going to do after extracting
[18:05] <Gentoo64> thats it
[18:05] <Gentoo64> Exxon: it might be a theme, or some icons. could be anything :)
[18:05] <truefx> i m newbie plz help
[18:05] <nvz> ActionParsnip: that is a rather annoying command... you could do something like sudo -v first and not have to type the password 3 times ;)
[18:05] <uzr007> so the tor.gz is installed or
[18:05] <Gentoo64> uzr007: now the files will be in the downloads folder
[18:05] <uzr007> It's tor project
[18:05] <Gentoo64> uzr007: tor has a ppa....
[18:05] <Gentoo64> so much easier lol
[18:05] <Gentoo64> go on tors website
[18:06] <Gentoo64> add the ppa
[18:06] <Gentoo64> then sudo apr-get install tor
[18:06] <uzr007> Gentoo64, what's ppa?
[18:06] <Gentoo64> a seperate download "repo"
[18:06] <Gentoo64> !ppa
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> nvz: I copied it and pasted it, sudo has a grace period so use will only need to type his/her password once for authentication
[18:07] <Gentoo64> uzr007: when ubuntu hasnt got the packages, you're better off adding a ppa rather than installing from source
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> nvz: so I don't see how it's an annoying command
[18:07] <Exxon> Gentoo64, its really good of you but should really understand what tar.bz contain.
[18:07] <Tixos> can someboedy help with this?
[18:07] <Gentoo64> Exxon: what do you mean
[18:07] <Tixos> apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}
[18:07] <geoffmcc> Gentoo64: actually tor is available on 11.10 without adding a ppa. I set it up yesterday, but then i took it down to just use the Tor Browser Bundle for Linux
[18:07] <Gentoo64> Exxon: they can contain anything...
[18:08] <Gentoo64> geoffmcc: ok didnt know that
[18:08] <nvz> ActionParsnip: guess I'm just not familiar with ubuntu's setup yet.. the only way I know sudo keeps credentials in with sudo -v
[18:08] <Gentoo64> Exxon: a tar.gz could contain wallpapers for all i know.
[18:08] <Exxon> Gentoo64, do you think and package can be compiled..without user understanding what is doing
[18:08] <Gentoo64> I dont understand what you mean
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> nvz: you get about 10-15 minutes where sudo commands don't need password, you can force it to end early with:  sudo -k
[18:09] <Gentoo64> Exxon: well compiling isnt any harder than extracting
[18:09] <ircEXPERT> Tixos: in /etc/apache2.conf, you'll see a line that says: "# These need to be set in /etc/apache2/envvars"
[18:09] <dabukalam> Where are the login pictures stored?
[18:09] <Exxon> Gentoo64, its not with others you are making it so simply for others..that the reason for the new
[18:09] <gllera> hi, what do you recommend: virtualbox or kvm?
[18:10] <Gentoo64> Exxon: I was helping him exctract a file. What are you talking about?
[18:10] <ircEXPERT> Tixos: so you need to edit /etc/apache2/envvars and change the lines "export APACHE_RUN_USER={put a user name here}" and "
[18:10] <ircEXPERT> export APACHE_RUN_GROUP={put a group name here"
[18:10] <Gentoo64> gllera: vbox
[18:10] <Exxon> gllera, oracle virtual-box.. :))
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> gllera: vbox is easier
[18:11] <Tixos> ok ircEXPERT, should this be the only user on my system, and what group ?
[18:11] <gllera> thanks!!
[18:11] <Exxon> Gentoo64, what do you think what is going to do after that..sleep
[18:11] <uzr007> Gentoo64, thanks buddy :-) I figured it out
[18:11] <ircEXPERT> Tixos: normally it's user www-data and group www-data
[18:11] <Tixos> why am i getting this error ?
[18:11] <Gentoo64> Exxon: stop whining please, I had no idea what the file was, just that it was tar.gz
[18:11] <ircEXPERT> Tixos: how did you install apache?
[18:12] <Exxon> Gentoo64, i am your fan..so please :))
[18:12] <pikaciu> i think there is a command to look into a tar.gz file before expanding it
[18:13] <Tixos> sudo apt-get install apache2
[18:13] <ircEXPERT> Tixos: did you delete the user/group "www-data" from your system for any reason?
[18:13] <geoffmcc> pikaciu: tar -tvzf
[18:13] <Tixos> hmm
[18:13] <roberto> qualcuno mi aiuta con Muse?
[18:13] <SolarisBoy> pikaciu: tar tvfz <file.tar.gz>
[18:13] <sovzed> is it possible to have gnome3 and unity at same time? i mean, both installed and running properly, so u can switch from one to another?
[18:14] <pikaciu> yep
[18:14] <Tixos> ircEXPERT: the group is still there
[18:14] <UncleTuna> I don't see a great deal of apps that mention 11.10, is it wise to try running 11.04 apps on 11.10?
[18:14] <ircEXPERT> Tixos: if the user is missing, add it back with the adduser command.
[18:15] <truefx> anyone can help me about choppy sound in ubuntu ?
[18:15] <JernejL_> hi
[18:15] <Tixos> ircEXPERT: how can i tell what the user is?
[18:15] <Tixos> or should be
[18:15] <Exxon> oh! damn Gentoo64 felt bad..
[18:15] <JernejL_> i'm trying to install curl for php on ubuntu 64 bit and it has a issue:
[18:15] <nvz> ircEXPERT: usually depends are forward compatible it really all depends on the app and what its dependencies are
[18:15] <JernejL_> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/main php5-cli amd64 5.3.3-1ubuntu9.5
[18:15] <JernejL_>   404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.181 80]
[18:15] <JernejL_> any ideas what to do with this?
[18:15] <truefx> when i chose 4.0 output its nearly fine but i cant hear speech
[18:15] <ircEXPERT> Tixos: By default it's username "www-data", when you install apache it creates this system user automatically.
[18:16] <SmashingX> Hello, is there any way to recover some data from a broken machine with Windows 7 using the ubuntu live cd?
[18:16] <UncleTuna> only one real way to know...
[18:16] <ircEXPERT> Tixos: Look at the file /etc/apache2/envvars, whatever is in the "export APACHE_RUN_USER=" is what it's expecting.
[18:16] <truefx> when i chose 5.1 its choppy in every video player i can listen stereo mp3 without problem
[18:17] <nvz> SmashingX: it can read ntfs, if the partition table is bad you could try gpart, and if the fs is bad well.. that might present a problem
[18:17] <Timewarper> hey
[18:17] <Exxon> SmashingX, you have drive plug and simply copy it ..
[18:17] <Exxon> SmashingX, ubuntu cannot do that sorry knoppix can
[18:18] <Timewarper> I try to get adobe flash 11 (apt for ubuntu) but it doesnt work and i get an error. http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ (Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol (apt) isn't associated with any program.)
[18:18] <Tixos> ircEXPERT: ok thanks, ill get back to you
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Timewarper: you don't need the adobe site, flash is available in the repos
[18:18] <bekks> Timewarper: "doesnt work" and "an error" are not very precise.
[18:18] <bekks> !details | Timewarper
[18:19] <Timewarper> bekks, they are
[18:19] <Timewarper> check what i said
[18:19] <Tixos> ircEXPERT: do i need to run that command as that user then ? export APACHE_RUN_USER=www-data, so why is it erroring ?
[18:19] <bekks> Timewarper: You can download the according .deb file...
[18:21] <Exxon> ActionParsnip, can you give him the easy to Timewarper simply what we know
[18:21] <Timewarper> bekks, ok i will get the deb
[18:21] <JernejL_> OH HELL
[18:22] <JernejL_> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/main php5-common amd64 5.3.3-1ubuntu9.5
[18:22] <Timewarper> only i cant find a deb at the site of adobe, only yum, rpm, tar, apt
[18:22] <JernejL_> what the hell do i do with this
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> Exxon: is that english?
[18:23] <roberto> muse failed to found jack audio server
[18:23] <duelle> Timewarper: You can get flash by checking it in Ubuntu Software Manager under "ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[18:23] <Exxon> ActionParsnip, i just want tell give him the solution that is easy ....or i can
[18:23] <bekks> Timewarper: Choose Linux, Choose Flash Player for Ubuntu (apt) - done.
[18:23] <roberto> hallo, I need help for Muse
[18:24] <roberto> muse failed to found jack audio server
[18:24] <Timewarper> bekks, thats what i did and i get this error: Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol (apt) isn't associated with any program.
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> Timewarper: can you give a PASTEBIN of:  uname -a; lsb_release -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[18:26] <Jigal__> hello how do i install apache mysql and php on 11.04?
[18:26] <truefx> choppy sound problem who can help ?
[18:26] <JernejL_> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/php5/php5-common_5.3.3-1ubuntu9.5_amd64.deb  404  Not Found
[18:27] <JernejL_> how can i fix this?
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> JernejL_: run:  sudo apt-get update     first
[18:27] <roberto> muse failed to found jack audio server
[18:27] <JernejL_> what will that do?
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> JernejL_: update the package knowledge, the file name is different so it will tell your system waht's what
[18:28] <JernejL_> ok
[18:28] <JernejL_> what is needed after that?
[18:28] <roberto> Muse problem, who can help? thanks
[18:28] <ircEXPERT> Tixos: adduser needs root privileges
[18:29] <Tixos> ircEXPERT: , i dont know if this issue is even related to my original
[18:29] <ircEXPERT> Tixos: you don't run any command "export ..."; that stays in the /etc/apache2/envvars file.  apache reads it and does what it says on startup.
[18:29] <JernejL_> finally
[18:29] <JernejL_> ActionParsnip: thank you
[18:29] <Tixos> ircEXPERT: i am trying to enable 'rewrite', but it doesnt seem to be working ?
[18:29] <ircEXPERT> Tixos: apache is trying to change to a user that doesn't exist on your system, based on what you've been indicating.
[18:29] <JernejL_> that helped
[18:30] <JernejL_> i could now also install php5-cli, curl and mysql
[18:30] <JernejL_> finally
[18:30] <ircEXPERT> Tixos: adduser is a Linux command, run it from the root terminal.
[18:30] <Tixos> ircEXPERT: if i use a2enmod rewrite, the file is copied to /mods-enanbled/ etc, what other changes would i need to make to my config files?
[18:30] <coolstar> I am looking to install ubuntu on an external drive? can someone help me?
[18:31] <Tixos> ive added RewriteEngine On
[18:31] <daviddoria> I've been having some weird problems with some graphics/GUI stuff. I'd guess it is related to my video card drivers. I just have an onboard video card in this machine, so it is not any special NVIDIA driver or anything. Is there a way to update a generic driver like that before I start having to buy hardware?
[18:31] <SolarisBoy> Tixos: how do you know its not working?
[18:31] <coolstar> can someone help me install ubuntu on an external drive?
[18:31] <ircEXPERT> Tixos: Sounds like you are doing it correctly.  Do you have a "Rewrite" stanza in any .htaccess file?
[18:32] <zakaria> hii
[18:32] <zakaria> ??
[18:32] <spoq> Bubuntu !
[18:32] <zakaria> who is here?
[18:32] <zakaria> any one
[18:32] <Exxon> daviddoria, lspci  | grep VGA
[18:32] <Tixos> ircEXPERT:  i did, but some tard from #httpd told me not to use .htaccess because i can edit the config files, so i removed it and added to the vhost file
[18:32] <spoq> yes
[18:32] <spoq> im here
[18:32] <spoq> can you see me?
[18:32] <zakaria> server ubuntu^
[18:32] <zakaria> ??
[18:32] <Lehthanis> hey everyone...I have a new video card for the church computer...It's an offline computer so I don't know how I'm going to get the drivers to it...never installed drivers manually before.
[18:32] <fred9145> coolstar -  with full disk encryption  or normal ?
[18:33] <zakaria> ubunti server ?? xchat? WTF
[18:33] <daviddoria> Exxon, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 10)
[18:33] <zakaria> anonymous chat
[18:33] <spoq> Sadbuntu
[18:33] <SolarisBoy> rewrite works in a vhosts stanza
[18:33] <roberto> help
[18:33] <cablop> i need a good irc client that runs in both windows and linux
[18:33] <Lehthanis> the new video card is an ati sapphire x1650
[18:33] <saju_m> Hi, i have a doubt http://pypi.python.org/packages/source/s/scipy/scipy-0.10.0.zip#md5=d1a4242266739433dcfe2096b0ab4007,   Here what is the use of #md5=d1a4242266739433dcfe2096b0ab4007 in the link ??
[18:33] <zakaria> roberto sei italianO?
[18:33] <Lasers_> cablop: irssi ?
[18:33] <cablop> but xchat is paid on windows... what a fake thing
[18:33] <Tixos> SolarisBoy: i checked using a script in this link
[18:33] <Tixos> http://www.wallpaperama.com/forums/how-to-test-check-if-mod-rewrite-is-enabled-t40.html
[18:33] <roberto> si
[18:33] <ircEXPERT> Tixos: so you're looking to put a "Rewrite" that affects the whole vhost?
[18:33] <kiloblargh> Using netatalk, how do I set it up to share all drives on the Ubuntu box to the Mac on my local network, and not just the Home folder?
[18:33] <zakaria> ma che server è questo??
[18:34] <ircEXPERT> cablop: kvirc
[18:34] <cablop> Lasers_: a cli to chat?? no, thanks :P
[18:34] <Exxon> daviddoria, so what you want to upgrade.. the pc
[18:34] <Tixos> ircEXPERT: i am using a script that requests mod_rewrite to be enabled, but its only one folder in the vhost is that matters?
[18:34] <cablop> ircEXPERT: kvirc... hmmmm
[18:34] <kiloblargh> I tried editing AppleVolume.default as a tutorial said but couldn't get it to work
[18:34] <coolstar> can someone help me install ubuntu on an external usb hard drive?
[18:34] <daviddoria> Exxon, what? I just want to see if there is a different driver i can try before having to buy a video card
[18:34] <ircEXPERT> cablop: works the same in Windows and Linux, it's graphical
[18:35] <coolstar> @daviddoria: What CPU Do you use?
[18:35] <cablop> Tixos: it seems more for the apache or http channel, but, afaik, you use .htaccess and voila
[18:35] <zakaria> http://wikiwar.blogspot.com/
[18:35] <Tixos> cablop: the guy there is a tard, im not going back
[18:35] <Lasers_> cablop: If kvirc does not pan out for you, http://webchat.freenode.net/ ;)
[18:35] <zakaria> http://wikiwar.blogspot.com/
[18:35] <kiloblargh> Is there maybe a gui tool or script that just freakin' works, because I've sank a lot of time into this to no avail and it shouldn't be o hard
[18:35] <cablop> ircEXPERT: i tried it many many years ago, and ditched it because it has no unicode support, meaning i was not able to write chinese nor japanese, but... maybe that is fixed now...
[18:35] <zakaria> linux trick windows mac skype free credit
[18:35] <zakaria> http://wikiwar.blogspot.com/
[18:35] <zakaria> http://wikiwar.blogspot.com/
[18:35] <Exxon> daviddoria, so you are stil using VGA on board you could have had pci-e graphic card instead long back
[18:35] <FloodBot1> zakaria: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:35] <zakaria> http://wikiwar.blogspot.com/
[18:36] <daviddoria> Exxon, yea, but those cost $ :)
[18:36] <zakaria> http://wikiwar.blogspot.com/
[18:36] <roberto> zaka, mi puoi aiutare con muse?
[18:36] <ircEXPERT> Tixos: I guess with these scripts you can basically add and remove apache modules on the fly?
[18:36] <Tixos> cablop: ircEXPERT how can i check is mod_rewrite is enabled simply?
[18:36] <Kazurik> I appear to have removed myself from the sudoers group. I am the only user on this system. How do I fix this?
[18:36] <Exxon> daviddoria, now VGA simply cannot get along have to buy one ..sorry..
[18:37] <zakaria> cosa??
[18:37] <zakaria> muse
[18:37] <norpan> Ubuntu does not recognize all my cores, just 1. I must use "nolapic" in order to even boot but i think this is why its not recognizing all my cores. help?
[18:37] <zakaria> che problema hai?
[18:37] <cablop> Tixos: not sure, maybe with a2enmod
[18:37] <roberto> Muse, è un software audio che non mi funziona
[18:37] <ircEXPERT> Tixos: if it's symlinked or present in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled then apache2 will include it on startup
[18:37] <Tixos> cablop: thats what ive used to enable, but the website i am running isnt working, and i tried the script from that link to test if its enabled and also that doesnt work
[18:37] <zakaria> su ubuntu?
[18:37] <zakaria> o windows
[18:37] <Tixos> ircEXPERT: is it so.. thats what i thought
[18:37] <roberto> si, su ubuntu
[18:37] <ircEXPERT> Tixos: I have no experience using a2enmod to modify a running configuration though
[18:37] <Tixos> it is so*
[18:38] <zakaria> che errore haI?
[18:38] <roberto> muse failed to found jack audio server
[18:38] <norpan> !english
[18:38] <coolstar> Can someone help me install Ubuntu on an external USB Drive?
[18:38] <coolstar> I want to know how to do it
[18:38] <vto> hello, im running ubuntu 11.04 and im having trouble with mysql workbench shutting down without any useful error log, anyone using a stable version older than the current ?
[18:38] <Tixos> ircEXPERT: so you know no way of checking if its enabled other than the symlink being in /mods-enabled/ ?
[18:38] <norpan> zakaria: !english
[18:38] <norpan> ops
[18:38] <Exxon> daviddoria, if you don't there is another out there ..will work fine
[18:39] <zakaria> prova un'altro software
[18:39] <norpan> Ubuntu does not recognize all my cores, just 1. I must use "nolapic" in order to even boot but i think this is why its not recognizing all my cores. help? running ubuntu 11.10 on i7 with p55-ud4 (MB)
[18:39] <zakaria> oppure vedi qua lo stesso problema
[18:39] <zakaria> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1517156
[18:39] <norpan> !english zakaria
[18:39] <norpan> crap
[18:39] <roberto> thanks zaka
[18:40] <ircEXPERT> Tixos: hold on - are you starting apache2 using /etc/init.d/apache2 start or just typing apache2 from the command line?
[18:40] <roberto> grazie zaka
[18:40] <szal> !it | zakaria
[18:40] <Tixos> ircEXPERT: it starts on boot, i am using restart obviously to restart after making changes
[18:40] <ircEXPERT> Tixos: Regarding whether rewrite is enabled - I think it might write something in the log file about what it loads on startup
[18:41] <zakaria> okey admin
[18:41] <zakaria> english
[18:41] <zakaria> :)
[18:41] <Tixos> ircEXPERT: i bet this is all some permissions issue
[18:41] <norpan> Ubuntu does not recognize all my cores, just 1. I must use "nolapic" in order to even boot but i think this is why its not recognizing all my cores. help? running ubuntu 11.10 on i7 with p55-ud4 (MB)
[18:44] <majd> Hey #Ubuntu - i want to monitor the memory usage of a process over a period of time. Something like the top command, but i need to log the data for a specific pid
[18:44] <Lehthanis> can someone help me get a driver for a video card?  I'm on a laptop, and the computer the video card is going into is offline...
[18:44] <majd> how can i do that? any text format would be fine...
[18:46] <vigu> hi
[18:46] <vigu> i have a question
[18:46] <Si2100> yes
[18:46] <Exxon> Lehthanis, lspci | grep VGA
[18:46] <vigu> i am trying to find the right drivers for genius slim 1320
[18:46] <vigu> which my girlfriend plans to use with ubuntu 10
[18:47] <Lehthanis> Exxon...what's that tell me?
[18:48] <norpan> Ubuntu does not recognize all my cores, just 1. I must use "nolapic" in order to even boot but i think this is why its not recognizing all my cores. help? running ubuntu 11.10 on i7 with p55-ud4 (MB)
[18:48] <Si2100> Vigu: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=572302
[18:49] <roberto> ubottu help about Muse       muse failed to found jack audio server
[18:50] <roberto> ubottu, for sure you know more ubuntu than me!!
[18:50] <Exxon> type in the terminal                lspci | grep VGA
[18:51] <Lehthanis> exxon, I did...it says: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS482 [Radeon Xpress 200M]
[18:51] <Lehthanis> I'm guessing that's the video card that's on this laptop?
[18:52] <coolstar> @Lethtanis: Do you see a card icon at the top right corner of the screen?
[18:52] <Lehthanis> nope
[18:52] <spoq> is there a distro Bubuntu?
[18:52] <spoq> or Kabuntu?
[18:52] <Si2100> theres Kubuntu
[18:52] <Si2100> KDE + ubuntu
[18:53] <spoq> is there a chan for it?
[18:53] <Si2100> chan ?
[18:53] <vigu> i will restart my computer now a join later
[18:53] <spoq> chan
[18:53] <spoq> for it
[18:53] <Si2100> http://www.kubuntu.org/
[18:53] <sdsdds> :-O
[18:53] <spoq> how about a chan on this network?
[18:53] <sdsdds> :)
[18:53] <sdsdds> :D
[18:53] <Si2100> Channel xD
[18:53] <coolstar> Can anyone help me install Ubuntu on a usb drive?
[18:53] <sdsdds> :P
[18:54] <Si2100> coolstar, easy u running Ubuntu ?
[18:54] <coolstar> i have ubuntu and windows dual boot right now
[18:54] <sdsdds> (6)
[18:54] <Exxon> Lehthanis, pleae read the form :  http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=53095
[18:54] <sdsdds> :|
[18:54] <sdsdds> :'(
[18:54] <roberto> muse failed to found jack audio server
[18:54] <Si2100> coolstar, are you on Ubuntu now ?
[18:54] <spoq> im wondering why ubuntu 11.10 was so slow
[18:54] <coolstar> I'm on ubuntu 10.10 right now
[18:54] <roberto> help!
[18:54] <spoq> maybe because of the graphics
[18:55] <Si2100> Cool, check the software c
[18:55] <Si2100> center for: USB Creator
[18:55] <spoq> ubuntu 10.04 is running as smooth as a smooth operator now; )
[18:55] <coolstar> I don't want it to install as persistence
[18:55] <coolstar> I want a full ubuntu install
[18:55] <pikaciu> roberto: try this    https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/muse/+bug/784919
[18:55] <coolstar> Its a Seagate FreeAgent GoFlex 750 GB
[18:55] <coolstar> I partitioned it already
[18:55] <Si2100> you want full ubuntu no partition ?
[18:56] <coolstar> yes
[18:56] <Si2100> okie,
[18:56] <coolstar> I want full ubuntu
[18:56] <Si2100> use Ubuntu to create a USB Installer, reboot and boot from the USB
[18:56] <Si2100> follow tho, and formate you HD
[18:56] <Si2100> But BACK UP !! all the data you want xD
[18:56] <coolstar> the drive is brand new
[18:56] <coolstar> so there's no data
[18:56] <Si2100> Ow right
[18:56] <spoq> btw
[18:56] <Si2100> So use Ubuntu to create a USB isntaller,
[18:57] <Lehthanis> Exxon, that's not the same video card...I have a video card I want to put in another computer that has no internet access...its not the same card thats in this computer....this is a laptop
[18:57] <coolstar> Do I have to unplug internal drives?
[18:57] <spoq> i heard Ubuntu community offers free cloud service
[18:57] <coolstar> or can I just use VMware to install it?
[18:57] <Si2100> for Windows or Ubuntu ?
[18:57] <coolstar> ubuntu
[18:57] <norpan> Ubuntu does not recognize all my cores, just 1. I must use "nolapic" in order to even boot but i think this is why its not recognizing all my cores. help? running ubuntu 11.10 on i7 with p55-ud4 (MB)
[18:57] <Si2100> yes you could o
[18:57] <Si2100> ihave it in Vmware 8
[18:57] <Exxon> coolstar, http://blog.sudobits.com/2011/04/23/how-to-install-ubuntu-11-04-from-usb-or-cd/
[18:57] <Si2100> or you could use Virtualbox
[18:57] <coolstar> the USB support in virtualbox is flaky
[18:58] <Si2100> yeah
[18:58] <Si2100> thats true
[18:58] <coolstar> I'm gonna boot from the drive anyways
[18:58] <Si2100> Owite
[18:58] <coolstar> @Exxon: I don't want to install from the drive, I want to install TO the drive
[18:58] <coolstar> i'll try it out
[18:58] <coolstar> :)
[18:59] <Si2100> hang on, you need to install to the USB and then install to the HD
[18:59] <Si2100> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[18:59] <Lehthanis> I need to download a driver for an ati sapphire x1650 on a laptop that doesn't have that video card in it...so I can install it in a computer that has no internet access.
[18:59] <Si2100> lehthanis, have u checked the Additonal drivers ?
[18:59] <coolstar> @Si2100: I don't want to install on my computer's internal drive
[18:59] <SilverFox> I'm trying to do a cdromupgrade from a mounted iso, but am getting a bunch of 'can't write ./foo: no space left' messages. I have 1.8G free on the disk that PWD is in, and I'd expect that a cdrom would be readonly... What am I doing wrong here?
[18:59] <coolstar> I want to have a full bootable ubuntu on the external drive
[18:59] <Si2100> yes
[18:59] <Si2100> coolstar: you want to go full ubuntu ?
[19:00] <coolstar> yes
[19:00] <Si2100> but dont want the windows partition]
[19:00] <coolstar> Its not a flash drive, but a 5400 RPM USB 3.0 drive
[19:00] <coolstar> I don't want to install on the internal drive
[19:00] <Si2100> but you want it on a USB
[19:00] <coolstar> but on the Seagate external drive
[19:00] <coolstar> yes
[19:00] <Vigani> hi guys
[19:01] <Si2100> Okie, So you want ot install Ubuntu onto a USB and use it live a Computer, xD
[19:01] <coolstar> I don't want to install live, but full
[19:01] <Exxon> coolstar, so what os are you using excactly that you want to make bootable with .
[19:01] <Si2100> yeah
[19:01] <Si2100> okie now i understand
[19:01] <SilverFox> Is there some sort of RAM drive that I need to set up to do the cdromupgrade?
[19:01] <coolstar> @Exxon: I want to use the standard ubuntu installer on the external drive
[19:01] <Exxon> Lehthanis, be kind enough what you laptop is
[19:01] <coolstar> I want to format it as ext4, and install full on the USB drive
[19:01] <Vigani> i need to talk withy someone to heplp me with the drivers for genius slim 1320 webcam for ubuntu 10
[19:02] <Si2100> coolstart: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-usb-bar
[19:02] <Si2100> Vigani, i checked google and it said that it wont supported =/
[19:02] <Si2100> but i could be wrong
[19:02] <coolstar> @Si2100: That is just installing live on the USB
[19:02] <Si2100> coolstar, Dam... i get what u want to do
[19:02] <coolstar> I want ubuntu to treat the drive as a hard drive (not a flash drive) and install
[19:03] <Si2100> just dunno how to go it
[19:03] <Exxon> coolstar, that what it is what os are you using..simply confused..
[19:03] <Lehthanis> my laptop doesn't matter...I just need to download a driver for x1650 to install on a desktop computer running Ubuntu Studio 11.04
[19:03] <Si2100> Exxon, Hes using Ubuntu
[19:03] <norpan> Ubuntu does not recognize all my cores, just 1. I must use "nolapic" in order to even boot but i think this is why its not recognizing all my cores. help? running ubuntu 11.10 on i7 with p55-ud4 (MB)
[19:03] <Lehthanis> if it mattes though I am runnign a gateway laptop with the same 11.04 ubuntu studio
[19:03] <Gentoo64> norpan: that is why yes
[19:03] <Si2100> brb
[19:04] <norpan> Gentoo64: ah you again =) you tried to help me a couple of days ago if i remember correct! hi!
[19:04] <yarrow> coolstar:  this guy talks about it, albeit with an old version.  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/installing-ubuntu-to-a-usb-hard-drive/
[19:04] <Gentoo64> norpan: it was you i was talking to other day about it i think
[19:04] <Exxon> coolstar, i am asking him..
[19:05] <coolstar> @yarrow: that is what i'm trying to do
[19:05] <Gentoo64> norpan: yeah. i dont know why its not booting though.
[19:05] <coolstar> except with ubuntu 10.10
[19:05] <SilverFox> for some reason my /tmp is only 1M in size.
[19:05] <norpan> Gentoo64: Im on the edge to cry right now lol
[19:05] <Gentoo64> norpan: did you try googling or a forum thread on it?
[19:06] <Si2100> bck
[19:06] <Exxon> Si2100, how you know that what he's using
[19:06] <Si2100> he said, earlyer, what he got Ubuntu and Windows
[19:06] <coolstar> a guy is talking about what I'm trying to do
[19:06] <coolstar> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/installing-ubuntu-to-a-usb-hard-drive/
[19:06] <coolstar> but the version of ubuntu is old
[19:06] <Si2100> count u follow that guide, but swop the version ?
[19:07] <norpan> Gentoo64: yes i did, i found one. but the solution did not work for me, i should start a new thread about it?
[19:07] <Exxon> Si2100, now what is using..
[19:07] <coolstar> i want to know if there's anything different that I should do since the versions are so different
[19:07] <Gentoo64> norpan: yeah try it
[19:07] <coolstar> 7.04 vs. 10.10
[19:07] <Gentoo64> norpan: could possibly be a motherboard bios bug maybe, have you tried updating the bios?
[19:07] <Si2100> coolstar, try it ? and see what happens ?
[19:08] <SilverFox>  /tmp shows as 'overflow' in du.  What is that?
[19:08] <norpan> Gentoo64: im using the latest BIOS i believe
[19:08] <Gentoo64> ok
[19:08] <coolstar> ok
[19:08] <coolstar> i'll try it
[19:08] <Si2100> coolstar, thats easy, its using software from ubuntu
[19:08] <norpan> Gentoo64: im not that great at stuff like this...lol. and what is "q-flash" ? i can chose to do that in BIOS and i have no idea what that does
[19:08] <Si2100> you can do it from 11.10
[19:08] <coolstar> I have 10.10
[19:08] <Gentoo64> norpan: probably so you can update the bios from a flash drive. my mobo has that
[19:09] <Si2100> see if u got a programs called " Make Start Disc" or check the marketplace
[19:09] <yarrow> coolstar:  there's a little info on ubuntu.com,  here  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installing_on_external_or_RAID_hard_disks
[19:09] <norpan> Gentoo64: nice
[19:09] <germano_> elena
[19:10] <Si2100> coolstar: http://imgur.com/lkkef
[19:11] <coolstar> @si2100: that is not that I'm trying to do
[19:11] <Si2100> ... just relized that makes a live cd/usb
[19:11] <coolstar> I don't want to use a live usb, as the persistence has a limit of 3.99 GB due to fat32
[19:11] <coolstar> and it takes longer to boot
[19:12] <Si2100> yeah
[19:12] <Si2100> u want a full install
[19:12] <SilverFox> yay, got it.  Needed to reboot to fix /tmp being mounted to overflow due to full hd (which is no longer full)
[19:12] <coolstar> yeas
[19:12] <Si2100> Coool,
[19:12] <norpan> Gentoo64: i will check if there is any update,i have never updated a bios before
[19:12] <Si2100> but i ant got a clue on how to go about doing it
[19:12] <norpan> Gentoo64: must i use windows?
[19:13] <coolstar> I don't care about read/write, as its not a flash drive, but a 5400 RPM external drive
[19:13] <Gentoo64> norpan: have a google for your mobo bios update
[19:13] <Gentoo64> norpan: the flash drive way is easiest
[19:13] <Galvatron> norpan: Sometimes yo do it from the BIOS itself
[19:13] <Exxon> !pm
[19:14] <Gentoo64> norpan just put the bios file on the flash drive and search for it in the bios
[19:14] <Gentoo64> if it suports that
[19:14] <coolstar> I'm trying to run the installer
[19:14] <coolstar> i'm booting ubuntu in vmware
[19:14] <coolstar> no hard drives
[19:14] <coolstar> just the external usb drive
[19:14] <Si2100> yeh
[19:15] <Exxon> norpan, on pc or laptop
[19:15] <Vigani> help with genius slim 1320 please
[19:16] <Si2100> Vigu: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=572302
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Vigani: not without some details we can't
[19:16] <Si2100> Vigani: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=572302
[19:16] <Vigani> but what details do you want
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Vigani: what is it?
[19:16] <Lehthanis> I need to download a driver for an ati sapphire x1650 on a laptop that doesn't have that video card in it...so I can install it in a computer that has no internet access.
[19:16] <Vigani> is a webcam
[19:16] <Vigani> from microsoft
[19:17] <Vigani> i have been searching the internet and nothing
[19:17] <lunitik> Vigani, plug it in and see if something like 'cheese' from the repo's picks it up
[19:17] <Vigani> the only thing i found was that is not supported by fedora linux
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Vigani: have you tried it in cheese?
[19:18] <Vigani> but i looking for the drivers that work in ubuntu 10
[19:18] <Vigani> cheese webpage you mean
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> Vigani: there is no ubuntu 10
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> Vigani: no, cheese is an app
[19:18] <Vigani> waht about ubuntu x
[19:18] <lunitik> Vigani, no, in the software center of ubuntu, search for 'cheese'
[19:18] <Si2100> Cheese FTW
[19:18] <Galvatron> Lehthanis: AMD/ATI has driver dropped support for pre-HD2000 cards long ago.
[19:18] <soreau> Vigani: If it's a usb camera, do 'lspci' and use the vendor/product id numbers in your search (in the format xxxx:xxxx)
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> Vigani: can you give the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[19:18] <Vigani> ok let me try
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> soreau: lsusb you mean ;)
[19:19] <soreau> ActionParsnip: naturally
[19:19] <Si2100> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[19:19] <soreau> Vigani: Yes, I meant lsusb
[19:19] <Si2100> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cheese
[19:19] <Vigani> but i may mot give the answer right now if it works or not as drivers are for the computer of my girlfriend
[19:19]  * lunitik wishes people would be patient, gonna confuse the poor dude, lets at least see if we need to make his head hurt first  ;)
[19:19] <coolstar> @Si2100: The ubuntu installer recognizes my Seagate FreeAgent USB Drive
[19:19] <induz> i am back with the problme of photo/picture management in IPOD 1st gen 8 Gb in ubuntu?/
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> Vigani: can you run the command in terminal and give the output please
[19:20] <phibxr> I am missing the status selection drop-down menu in Empathy -- anyone else seen that issue?
[19:20] <soreau> Vigani: Just boot a live session on her machine and see if it works
[19:20] <KurtKraut> Does anyone recomend a SNMP/MRTG tutorial for Ubuntu Server? Everything I find is outdated, the conf files even don't match.
[19:20] <Galvatron> Lehthanis: The pre-HD2000s are supported only by the open source driver ("radeon"). For further support you might want to use the dedicated #radeon channel.
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> induz: look in the DCIM folder on the device, lots of cams use that folder
[19:20] <Lehthanis> Galvatron, I just need any driver that will work...even if its the open source drivers...will ubuntu recognize it if I plug that video card in without putting it on the internet?
[19:20] <Si2100> phibxr, hav u tired reinstalling ?
[19:20] <induz> I have GPIXPod but I dont know how to
[19:20] <Exxon> induz, i had it and got rid of it buy buying i-pad ..and had a good sleep..:))
[19:20] <coolstar> In the ubuntu Installer, Should I choose ext4, ext3, or ext2?
[19:21] <Gentoo64> Lehthanis: yeah irll yse a kernel driver
[19:21] <Galvatron> Lehthanis: Yes, because the open spurce drivers are already a part of the system.
[19:21] <lunitik> coolstar, if you don't know, go with the defaults (ext4)
[19:21] <Gentoo64> you should srill get display
[19:21] <coolstar> @lunitik: I'm installing on a USB Drive
[19:21] <coolstar> so I want to know if it matters
[19:21] <Lehthanis> will the system driver allow me to get a resolution above 1024x768?  Because the Geforce 4 thats in it, I have a hard time doing that....thats why I scavenged this video card, lol
[19:21] <Gentoo64> coolstar: it wont matter but use ext4 its the standard fs
[19:22] <lunitik> coolstar, it only matters if you know why it matters
[19:22] <Si2100> xD
[19:22]  * lunitik uses btrfs for instance because he knows why he wants to use it
[19:22] <Gentoo64> Lehthanis: it should support the native res
[19:22] <coolstar> I know the USB 2.0 transfer rate is 480 mb/s
[19:22] <Galvatron> Lehthanis: It should, but you won't know untill you try.
[19:22] <coolstar> I want to know if the filesystem will matter
[19:22] <Gentoo64> lunitik: whys that? lol
[19:22] <coolstar> like in mount time
[19:22] <coolstar> or unmount time
[19:22] <lunitik> Gentoo64, snapshots, mostly
[19:23] <Gentoo64> ah ok
[19:23] <coolstar> I'm trying to get it to boot quickly
[19:23] <Gentoo64> coolstar: ext4 is fine
[19:23] <coolstar> ok
[19:23] <Gentoo64> its fast and reliable
[19:23] <Lehthanis> gotcha....do I need to do anything with the system before I put the new video card in?  like disable the onboard video card?
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> coolstar: for a desktop, i suggest ext4
[19:23] <Gentoo64> Lehthanis: yeah disable onboard, and just boor ir
[19:23]  * lunitik is hoping Ubuntu 12.04 includes a GTK interface for openSUSE's snapper or whatever though
[19:23] <Gentoo64> boot it*
[19:23] <coolstar> @ActionParsnip: Its a Seagate External Drive
[19:23] <lunitik> Also, zypper integration into snapshots is awesome
[19:23] <Lehthanis> that sounds promising.  I hope it ends up beign that easy
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> coolstar: is it platter based?
[19:24] <Lehthanis> I do have a tougher question...
[19:24] <coolstar> yes
[19:24] <Lehthanis> is there a way to get routine updates to an offline computer?
[19:24] <Galvatron> Lehthanis: It might be a good idea. Anyways, what's this onboard card?
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> coolstar: then ext4 is fine, Wnidows OS will not be able to read it however
[19:24] <phibxr> Si2100, strange, uninstalling, reinstalling and clearing .config/Empathy helped, even though the system was cleanly installed yesterday. :)
[19:24] <yarrow> ext4 is considerably faster than ext3. (apparently)
[19:24] <lunitik> Lehthanis, you mean other than writing it on a calendar?
[19:24] <coolstar> @ActionParsnip: The drive is partitioned. My data will be on an NTFS partition on the drive
[19:24] <Lehthanis> the onboard card is a geforce 4 mx and I can't get the video to stay right
[19:24] <coolstar> I just want a bootable ubuntu
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> Lehthanis: you can use aptoncd to copy the debs from a web active system to an offline one
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> coolstar: sounds fine
[19:25] <lunitik> Lehthanis, if there is at least a nic in the system, you can use apt-proxy
[19:25] <induz> ActionParsnip, look here plz http://i.imgur.com/Bc4Jt.png
[19:25] <phibxr> Si2100, hehe, found the cause. if you make the window too narrow, the dropdown box disappears. what I just did cleared the window size settings. /facepalm
[19:25] <UncleTuna>  b  tfy\]4=-05 7
[19:25] <Galvatron> Lehthanis: The only good think I can think about is connecting it to web, from time to time.
[19:25] <UncleTuna> doh
[19:25] <Si2100> phibxr, Cool xD "
[19:25] <Si2100> !faceparm
[19:25] <Lehthanis> yeah, I thought about that...its really a pain to get it out of the church though, lol
[19:25] <induz> ActionParsnip, DCIM is empty while the other folder has Thumbnail database from iTune
[19:26] <coolstar> I'm gonna install now on the externl drive partitioned, with about 700 GB for my data (NTFS), 512 MB Swap, and the rest for ubuntu
[19:26] <Lehthanis> I've used aptoncd to get software to it, but never updates...
[19:26] <coolstar> does ubuntu read swap from an external drive?
[19:26] <coolstar> its gonna boot full from the drive
[19:26] <coolstar> so i want to know
[19:26] <Si2100> Coo
[19:26] <Si2100> Coo
[19:26] <Si2100> Cool **
[19:26] <FloodBot1> Si2100: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:27] <induz> How can i read that photo database
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> induz: not sure then man
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> coolstar: it can
[19:28] <dr_willis> coolstar:  it could use swap from an exteranal hd.
[19:28] <Galvatron> Lehthanis: Switching to Radeon, especialy pre-HD2000, is not a really good idea either, since it's a real russian roulette.
[19:28] <dr_willis> coolstar:  in theory you could put swap on a network drive. :)
[19:28] <coolstar> Its installing ubuntu full on the external drive :)
[19:30] <coolstar> http://i.imgur.com/RIOXe.png
[19:30] <Exxon> coolstar, full install then don't worry about swap..
[19:30] <Lehthanis> well, the church can't really afford a new machine right now.
[19:30] <coolstar> ok
[19:31] <Lehthanis> we dont really have much of a choice...I have to get something working better.
[19:31] <Lehthanis> the geforce 4 screen is all off...it only detects 1024x768 and even that is offset with a weird wrapping effect on the edges of the screen
[19:31] <Lehthanis> and the cursor doesn't line up.
[19:31] <coolstar> is it recommended to encrypt the home folder?
[19:31] <Exxon> Lehthanis, may be you should wait till december then
[19:31] <coolstar> I am thinking about using face recognition to log in
[19:31] <Lehthanis> I've tried adding modelines, and they don't work on bootup
[19:32] <coolstar> http://code.google.com/p/pam-face-authentication/
[19:32] <Galvatron> Lehthanis: Radeons are famous for not working very well under X.org, due to problematic drivers (both open source and proprietary). I it's an AGP board, something like 7300GT + proprietary nVidia drivers would be a much better choice, since nVidia's famous for working very well with X.
[19:32] <coolstar> Should I encrypt the home folder?
[19:32] <coolstar> cuz i am thinking about using this: http://code.google.com/p/pam-face-authentication/
[19:32] <Galvatron> Lehthanis: For this X1650 best go to the #radeon channel
[19:33] <induz> its a database of phonots
[19:33] <Atlantic777> coolstar: you know the best do you need encrypted /home. :D
[19:33] <induz> photos
[19:33] <coolstar> I don't need it
[19:33] <rafael> howdy, 1st time here, I was wondering if somebody could provide me some help with power managmenent in ubuntu server?
[19:33] <Atlantic777> coolstar: then don't use it.
[19:33] <coolstar> I found it doesn't work with face authentication
[19:33] <coolstar> http://code.google.com/p/pam-face-authentication/issues/detail?id=44
[19:33] <Lehthanis> ok, well...it was the best I coudl scavenge at the moment, so I'll see how it works...maybe it'll be better...if not I'll try #radeon...thanks for the help!
[19:34] <Galvatron> coolstar: Encrypted /home is just a problem, especially if you must do an emergency backup.
[19:34] <coolstar> ok. I am not encrypting it
[19:34] <Atlantic777> coolstar: btw, that's lvm. you probably have ext* partition
[19:34] <coolstar> I have an ext4
[19:35] <Harmageddon> !sound
[19:36] <rafael> I was wondering if anyone knows how to prevent ubuntu server 11.10 from going to sleep or standby or hibernate?
[19:36] <SilverFox> something is eating up space nearly as fast as I free it up
[19:37] <Atlantic777> coolstar: hm, sorry, it's generally problem with encrypted /home. It seems that the app tries to check your identity with pictures which are stored in /home folder. But /home is encrypted and it can't access them. So, simply, don't use encryption. :D
[19:37] <coolstar> it uses the webcam
[19:37] <SilverFox> coolstar: and stores snaps in ~
[19:37] <Atlantic777> yeah, but pictures from webcam (realtime you) have to be compared to some pictures or data in your computer
[19:37] <uzr007> rafael, you see the battery icon on the bar on the top?
[19:38] <coolstar> it stores the snaps in the home directory
[19:38] <Atlantic777> SilverFox: and that.
[19:38] <uzr007> push it and then power settings
[19:38] <Galvatron> SilverFox: What system version? have you tried cleaning APT's cache with Ubuntu Tweak?
[19:38] <SilverFox> Galvatron: I'm trying to free up enough space to download it.
[19:38] <mrdeb> u can also do apt-get clean all
[19:38] <SilverFox> 9.04
[19:38] <Galvatron> SilverFox: Try "sudo apt-get clean"
[19:38] <mrdeb> wow are u going to upgrade to 11.10
[19:38] <rafael> uzr007, I am looking for the command line option, as I do not have xinit installed
[19:39] <Exxon> uzr007, if is running a server he should know this of the hibernation process..
[19:39] <SilverFox> mrdeb: ya... I'm working on it.  I've got 9.10 iso mounted, but need some free space to get that installed, then I'll upgrade again.
[19:39] <uzr007> rafael, aha, IDK then
[19:39] <rafael> thank you anyway
[19:39] <uzr007> adios amigos
[19:40] <uzr007> no problemo :)
[19:40] <rafael> Exxon could you please help me
[19:40] <chilversc> how do I add items to the unity launcher?
[19:40] <chilversc> as in the launch menu rather than the bar
[19:40] <rafael> i just need to know what files control the sleep/standby and hibernation
[19:40] <Exxon> what lvl are trying to enter
[19:41] <rafael> I am trying to prevent my machine from going into either one, I want to make sure it's always on
[19:41] <Galvatron> SilverFox: It's a waste of effort. Simply install 11.04 (NOT 11.10, since it'a full of bugs)
[19:41] <Phr3d13> Once I get past my grub my screen turns into a garbled purple mess
[19:41] <Exxon> why ./xinit then
[19:41] <rafael> i have not installed xinit
[19:42] <mrdeb> well u can fix that by turning off hide grub
[19:42] <tmg> why not update 'idle' then?
[19:42] <mrdeb> in grud cfg
[19:42] <Galvatron> Phr3d13: What's your graphic card? Can you get into console mode (AAlt + F1)?
[19:42] <vargadanis> hello everyone! I have a little problem with file shareing between a Ubuntu and Windows 7 machine.. It seems whenever I try to move file from ubuntu to windows and the file contains special non latin characters such as őúűá the file cannot be moved because and unknown error occurs
[19:42] <Timewarper> hey
[19:42] <vargadanis> might it have something to do with samba settings?
[19:42] <Timewarper> does ubuntu 10.10 have in its repositories flash 11 64bit?
[19:42] <Phr3d13> Nvidia, and not sure at the moment
[19:42] <rafael> tmg: your comment for idle was that for me?
[19:43] <coolstar> its done installing. I'll try booting from the drive
[19:43] <tmg> rafael: yes
[19:43] <Si2100> timrwarper, yes
[19:43] <coolstar> wish me luck that it is installed on the external drive
[19:43] <coolstar> :)
[19:43] <rafael> tmg, how do I configure the idle in command line
[19:43] <SoWhat> hello again! which is best free app for developing PHP on Ubuntu?
[19:44] <rafael> or what file controls the idle?
[19:44] <Timewarper> Si2100, ok how can i find the deb file from firefox?
[19:44] <jadon> i cant belive firefox is at number 8
[19:44] <KurtKraut> SoWhat, your question is a bit weird for me. Do you know any 'app for developing PHP' in any other operating system?
[19:44] <Exxon> !xinit
[19:45] <jadon> where should i go for help with ubuntu software center
[19:45] <vargadanis> SoWhat: I use Netbeans or Eclipse PDT
[19:45] <rafael> lol, I am not running xinit
[19:45] <SoWhat> KurtKraut: THis is for example Coda on MacOS
[19:45] <vargadanis> jadon: you are at the right place
[19:45] <Galvatron> Timewarper: There's been a PPA, called "Sevenmachines", bu now it's apparently gone.
[19:45] <tmg> rafael: im not sure, never need that but it shoud be either grub option or one of sysctl ot something
[19:45] <jadon> thanks var*
[19:46] <jadon> my problem is usc has nothing in it
[19:46] <rafael> tmg, thanks I will check those out
[19:46] <Vigani> i found the solution about my webcam
[19:46] <KurtKraut> SoWhat, oh, this kind of application is called IDE.
[19:46] <Phr3d13> i'll ask again when i'm at my computer
[19:46] <MinD_> Hi all
[19:46] <Timewarper> Galvatron, apturl sucks seriously. i try to get the latest flash from adobes website, but firefox cant handle apt
[19:46] <Galvatron> Timewarper: So you should use Adobe website (Adobe Labs for 11.3 beta 2_
[19:46] <coolstar> Hi
[19:47] <Timewarper> Galvatron, link for that?
[19:47] <Timewarper> to just get the deb and get out
[19:47] <SoWhat> KurtKraut: okay :) are there any other popular IDE? I didnt like Eclipse on Windows
[19:47] <coolstar> When I boot, my comp doesn't have the ext drive on the bootable devices list
[19:47] <rafael> bye bye
[19:47] <Galvatron> Timewarper: Why not just download the *.deb and install it manually (sudo dpkg -i)?
[19:47] <breakout> why grep -rn PATH /etc/login.defs
[19:47] <breakout> intend /usr/local
[19:47] <breakout> ?
[19:47] <MinD_> I have developed a new software, I have the .deb and .xz packages and also it's a GPL 3 free software. I just want to know how to ask Ubuntu admins for including my software at Ubuntu distributions.
[19:47] <Dj_FlyBy> I'm confused as to why 'disk utility' s.m.a.r.t. tools shows my drive with 21 bad sectors, but smartctl shows the hard drive as healthy
[19:47] <Timewarper> Galvatron, where can i find that deb?
[19:47] <MinD_> Can anybody help me?
[19:48] <Timewarper> thats the thing i cant
[19:48] <jadon> nvm now it decided to work
[19:48] <Galvatron> Timewarper: Catch: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer11-2.html
[19:48] <jadon> i do have a question about wifi tho
[19:48] <KurtKraut> SoWhat, using an IDE is like trying to use someone else's shoes. If the size matches, that is okay. If it doesn't, you will feel pain. As Eclipse is painful for you.
[19:49] <Vigani> i am trying to install the printer. my printer is cannon MP560 and the ubuntu version is 11.10
[19:49] <tmg> KurtKraut: ?
[19:49] <MinD_> Is an specific channel at this server where I must to perform my question?
[19:49] <tmg> KurtKraut: the one and best IDE is VIM and it never hurs
[19:49] <jadon> on my router and only my router my laptop will connect and then drop after 30 some seconds but if i fiddle with ifconfig wlan0 up/down i can get a stable connection
[19:49] <tmg> *hurts
[19:49] <Galvatron> Timewarper: I've totally forgotten they had removed the deb...
[19:50] <Timewarper> Galvatron, lets just agree that adobe is retarded
[19:50] <Exxon> MinD_, that really is good of you but instead you can fix the bugs and qualify and then things can be taken into consideration..
[19:50] <Timewarper> and be done
[19:50] <TimothyA1> how do I configure a system to reboot when it kernel panics?
[19:50] <Galvatron> Timewarper: Yeah...
[19:50] <KurtKraut> tmg, it is not an IDE out of the box. And this shoe doesn't fit for me :D
[19:51] <Timewarper> Galvatron, lets assume i take the tar.gz and unpack go get the libflash.so . Any guide to where must copy that file?
[19:51] <tmg> TimothyA1: you cant... that is for you have to see it crashed
[19:51] <Galvatron> Timewarper: What perverous satisfaction do they have from not optimizing this bloatware...
[19:51] <TimothyA1> ....
[19:51] <MinD_> Exxon: My software is stable now. I was developing and testing it for 1 year.
[19:51] <SoWhat> tmg: I'll check VIM
[19:51] <MinD_> Exxon: What I must to do now?
[19:51] <TimothyA1> I have a SERVER, in a REMOTE LOCATION that is constantly kernel panicing in the most worst times
[19:51] <TimothyA1> to which I do have physical access to to reboot
[19:51] <TimothyA1> so I would prefer it to have to reboot instead
[19:51] <KurtKraut> SoWhat, my suggestion is: now that you've find the term, Google for it. Find some on Ubuntu Software Center. But if you feel unlucky, just try to build your own IDE enviroment, with vim (if you like terminal) or gEdit (if you depend on GUI)
[19:51] <tmg> KurtKraut: the VIM itself is not IDE, but when combined with scripts it can be realy nice... just try it
[19:51] <Timewarper> Galvatron, the problem is they got the market by the balls using their proprietary software
[19:52] <Timewarper> Stallman would pull his beard
[19:52] <MinD_> Exxon: My program has a public Google code project.
[19:52] <Exxon> MinD_, no hard feelings but you have to ..the only purpose is that you want it in the irc session..
[19:52] <SoWhat> KurtKraut: okay, tnx
[19:52] <MinD_> Exxon: And there are a lot of people using it.
[19:52] <KurtKraut> tmg, do not belive everybody need what you need. Making scripts to turn vim into a IDE for my needs is a waste of time.
[19:52] <Atlantic777> SoWhat: I have to drop in emacs. :D I use vim, too, but maybe you'll like emacs.
[19:52] <Galvatron> Timewarper: Compy the folders to the /usr and the lib itself to /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer or //usr/lib64/flashplugin-installer (I have no experience with 64-bit Ubu).
[19:52] <tmg> SoWhat: but check it with scripts... check vim.org etc to get things you need
[19:53] <Timewarper> Adobe is working like microsoft imprisoning the market with their "free" software. like directx and flash
[19:53] <jadon> where should i go for WIFI help
[19:53] <MinD_> Exxon: Sorry, I don't understand what do you mean.
[19:53] <Timewarper> Galvatron, i did something like that, but still firefox didnt recognize that i have any plugin installed
[19:53] <Alex___> Hi all!
[19:53] <tmg> KurtKraut: but the scripts are accessible in open source already...
[19:53] <Exxon> MinD_, i don't have to tell you have server works..you are beyond that..so bear my explanation..
[19:53] <Timewarper> Galvatron, flash is a real pain in linux
[19:54] <Alex___> Who can help me please?
[19:54] <bruenig> no one, muahahaha
[19:54] <Timewarper> Galvatron, i would have installed archlinux by now
[19:54] <Atlantic777> Alex___: just ask.
[19:54] <Galvatron> !question|Alex___
[19:54] <tmg> Alex___: start with definition of the problem
[19:54] <KurtKraut> tmg, none of them helps me to do what I need.
[19:54] <Alex___> !ask
[19:54] <Alex___> Who know email of Stollman?
[19:54] <Exxon> Timewarper, Arch linux ..? what to know how long are you using linux
[19:55] <SoWhat> Atlantic777, tmg, KurtKraut, mainly what I need from IDE is PHP tag completion and syntax highlightin
[19:55] <Alex___> ?
[19:55] <Timewarper> Exxon, what do you mean?
[19:55] <Alex___> Help please!
[19:55] <Atlantic777> SoWhat: then vim is good enough.
[19:55] <KurtKraut> SoWhat, it seems gphpedit does that.
[19:55] <MinD_> Exxon: I just want to know the procedure of publishing my software as a Ubuntu supported one.
[19:55] <Alex___> tmg?
[19:55] <wckd> !question|Alex___
[19:55] <Galvatron> Timewarper: I'm not good with FF, since I don't use it (Opera as pomary, and Chromium 17 as secondary, for HTML5/WebM videos).
[19:55] <Galvatron> *primary
[19:56] <MinD_> Exxon: What I must to do or where I need to ask.
[19:56] <Alex___> ubottu?
[19:56] <Alex___> :(
[19:56] <Galvatron> It's our bot.;)
[19:56] <tmg> Alex___: probably lag, i saw you asked for help but w/o description what you want
[19:56] <jadon> networking help where to go?
[19:56] <Alex___> Nobody can help?
[19:57] <Galvatron> Help with what...?
[19:57] <Atlantic777> Alex___: rms [at] gnu.org
[19:57] <tmg> jadon: ?
[19:57] <Atlantic777> Alex___: if that's what you asked.
[19:57] <D-coy> ?¿
[19:57] <trism> MinD_: might be a helpful link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages
[19:57] <Alex___> Who know email of Stollman?
[19:57] <Exxon> MinD_, there is no getway simply you can knock  and get in you help fix the bugs they will pick you up.regardless of location..believe me you effort is not going in vain..
[19:58] <Atlantic777> Alex___: I've told you. rms @ gnu.org
[19:58] <Alex___> own email of Stollman...
[19:58] <Alex___> Own
[19:58] <popsch> can I run the regular installer on linux as well? I would like to use a current install and run the installer for another hot-swappable drive
[19:58] <MinD_> trism: That is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks a lot!!!
[19:58] <MinD_> Exxon: Thank you anyway.
[19:58] <SilverFox> !patience|SilverFox
[20:00] <Galvatron> Alex___: it's not even on his personal website
[20:00] <Timewarper> Galvatron, did you say anything? i got disconnected
[20:00] <Default_User> Hi does anybody know how to write this ² but further down?
[20:00] <Exxon> Alex___, stollman..what is that..email or a joke
[20:00] <Galvatron> Timewarper: No
[20:00] <SilverFox> smart bot.
[20:01] <Galvatron> Alex___: So you rather won't get it unless he gives it to you.
[20:01] <Galvatron> Alex___: may I knoe why do you need it?
[20:02] <Exxon> Alex___, you are watching many movies recently..simply cut the movies
[20:02] <Alex___> I can make a distr based on Ubuntu, delete the copyrights of Ubuntu and Canonical, and call it their own way?
[20:02] <sythe_> Yep
[20:02] <sythe_> Theoretically
[20:03] <sythe_> Although...you still have to credit them
[20:03] <sythe_> Anwyays
[20:03] <sythe_> *Anyways
[20:03] <Timewarper> copyright for what?
[20:03] <sythe_> Can someone help me out? I need a deb of "Razercfg" that works with Maverick
[20:03] <Timewarper> its all gpl, you can use whatever you want
[20:04] <SilverFox> bleachbit is neat.
[20:04] <sythe_> Presumably someone can make me one?
[20:04] <sythe_> And, yes, I tried converting an RPM with Alien...it didn't work
[20:04] <Alex___> I can make a distr based on Ubuntu, delete the copyrights of Ubuntu and Canonical, and call it their own way?
[20:04] <Alex___> lag?
[20:04] <sythe_> Alex___: Call it a way?
[20:04] <Galvatron> Alex___: I'm afraid you qill end up with another "Mint" at best, since there's not much yoou can really change, If it's to be compatible, starting with repos.
[20:05] <Alex___> call new name
[20:05] <sythe_> I suppose that you could make a distro called "It-Their-Own-Way".
[20:05] <SilverFox> ITOW
[20:05] <sythe_> Alex___: Yes, you can
[20:05] <sythe_> That's what open-source means
[20:05] <Exxon> Alex___, stop the cross post before you could be banned
[20:05] <Alex___> but it's legal, right?
[20:06] <sythe_> Alex___: Yes, you can
[20:06] <sythe_> That's what open-source means
[20:06] <sythe_> Freedom.
 what?
[20:06] <Alex___> License of Linux is Gnu GPL?
[20:06] <Alex___> kernel Linux GPL?
[20:07] <Galvatron> Yup
[20:07] <Exxon> Alex___, what you want other in need don't get attention..
[20:07] <Alex___> Then the kernel I can also rename?
[20:07] <mariokart89> Hellllo !
[20:08] <Galvatron> Alex___: no, unless you wan't a problem with Linux Foundation.
[20:08] <mariokart89> What is the fuck ?
  What do you want from me?
[20:08] <vooze> !ask mariokart89
[20:08] <vooze> hm
[20:08] <Galvatron> mariokart89: Dont curse
[20:08] <mariokart89> Yeah !
[20:08] <c_smith> Alex___, the Linux Kernel is licensed under the GNU GPL
[20:08] <vooze> ubottu ask
[20:08] <Exxon> Alex___, you have donloaded the kernel...so think about it if you want to name it after you then start writing the codes till 60 yrs
[20:08] <ddn> hi, after I set firestarter my mobile internet is not working anymore, why?
[20:09] <sythe_> Can anyone help me get the Razer configuration utility working?
[20:09] <sythe_> Please
[20:09] <mariokart89> Tock !
[20:09] <jari> anyone knows something fun to do with my clean install?
[20:10] <Si2100> jari, load Gnome-shell ?
[20:10] <coolstar> sudo rm -rf /
[20:10] <Alex___> Linux kernel is under the GPL. So to change the kernel name legally?
[20:10] <coolstar> Lol jk
[20:10] <c_smith> jari, if you feel like some games, try playdeb at http://www.playdeb.net/welcome/
[20:10] <Galvatron> !chat|mariokart89
[20:10] <Alex___> Yes?
[20:10] <Si2100> brb
[20:10] <Alex___> Please...
[20:11] <jari> c_smith no thanks. not realy playing games on linux ;p
[20:11] <Galvatron> Alex___: Of cours4e NO
[20:11] <Alex___> Why not!?
[20:11] <Guest51001> 27 hot male here from DUBAI..  any preety princess out there ?
[20:11] <sythe_> !kban Guest51001
[20:11] <yeats> jari: pick a result: https://www.google.com/search?q=11.10+post+install+guide&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 ;-)
[20:11] <Exxon> Guest51001, i also from dubai...:))
[20:11] <Alex___> Open office Org ---> LibreOffice and Symphonic and etc
[20:11] <c_smith> jari, then, try getdeb if you feel like discovering some neat apps (playdeb is getdeb's sister site) getdeb doesn't have games, but there's some neat apps there.
[20:11] <Guest51001> 27 hot male here from DUBAI..  any preety princess out there ?
[20:12] <Alex___> Why not!?
[20:12] <yeats> Guest51001: wrong channel
[20:12] <morri> i am sure there some nice female trolls for you
[20:12] <Nomad> im having connecting net in ubuntu via mobile through data cable. can any1 help me?
[20:12] <c_smith> bleh, the crazy people attack!!!!
[20:12] <Alex___> Please HELP ME!
[20:12] <sythe_> Nomad: Say "please"
[20:12] <yeats> Alex___: what is the problem you're having?
[20:12] <Exxon> Guest51001, go to new-york international ..u will get many
[20:13] <c_smith> Alex___, could you please clarify the problem?
[20:13] <Nomad> oh sorry..  please???
[20:13] <sythe_> Alex___: YES.
[20:13] <sythe_> YOU CAN, Alex___.
[20:13] <Alex___> Linux kernel is under the GPL. So to change the kernel name legally?
[20:13] <sythe_> Legally.
[20:13] <sythe_> Jeez.
[20:13] <Galvatron> yeats: he want's to make his own distro, and rebrand the Linux kernel itself...
[20:13] <sythe_> YOU CAN, Alex___.
[20:13] <sythe_> YOU CAN, Alex___.
[20:13] <sythe_> YOU CAN, Alex___.
[20:13] <FloodBot1> sythe_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:13] <Alex___> it qustion : Linux kernel is under the GPL. So to change the kernel name legally?
[20:13] <norpan> I FINALY HAVE 8 CORES!!! WHOOO!!!Thanks to all that tried to help me before all love
[20:13] <Alex___> OOOK
[20:13] <SoWhat> is there a Task Manager where you can see how full is Swap ?
[20:13] <Alex___> sythe u admin?
[20:13] <yeats> Alex___: what does that have to do with Ubuntu exactly?
[20:13] <Alex___> nope?
[20:13] <sythe_> Nope
[20:13] <Lasers_> SoWhat: Install htop. Run 'htop'
[20:14] <SoWhat> Lasers_:  tnx
[20:14] <Galvatron> I guess we've got some trolling attack, or else...
[20:14] <c_smith> Alex___, I believe under the GPL, name-changing is perfectly okay, just as long as you don't claim it as yours without giving credit to the other contributer.
 i want make distr based on Ubuntu
[20:14] <yeats> Alex___: there are many F/LOSS licensing resources on the web - this is not a channel for legal advice
[20:15] <Exxon> Alex___, so good enough come out of the stealth so that we can see you
[20:15] <tmg> anyone who is working for C ?
[20:15] <Veganino> Bonsoir
[20:15] <Alex___> You can give me legal channel?
[20:15] <SilverFox> tmg: C?
[20:15] <Galvatron> On the other hand I better like another Ubuntu-based "distro" than a cmpletely new one, adding a 99th package system and so on...
[20:15] <Exxon> Alex___, this channel offcouse
[20:15] <c_smith> Alex___, not sure on that one.
[20:16] <Nomad> http://paste.ubuntu.com/750692/
[20:16] <c_smith> Exxon, have you not seen those who have said this is NOT the place for legal questions?
[20:16] <tmg> SilverFox: Canoncical
[20:17] <Nomad> can any1 pls have a look and narrow down the cause of error?
[20:17] <Exxon> c_smith, that what it is ..
[20:17] <SilverFox> Exxon: sarcasm may be lost on those who English is not the first language.
[20:17] <c_smith> Exxon, obviously not here, but other than that, no clue
[20:17] <Exxon> SilverFox, do you have any idea of the session.
[20:17] <Alex___> Code OOO owned corporation Oracle, and developers LibreOffice call themselves the owners of LO
[20:18] <yeats> Alex___: you might want to consult a lawyer with your concerns
[20:18] <geoffmcc> !offtopic
[20:18] <tmg> Nomad: remote side refused your ppp
[20:18] <Alex___> So I can make my own OS based on Ubuntu?
[20:18] <Exxon> c_smith, answer was given to him long back..
[20:18] <priyank> Can I know some tutorial for LINUX
[20:18] <Travis-42> When I ssh into a remote server, and then ssh into another server, I am prompted (as expected) for the ssh key's password on the remote server. But, it prompts me every time. How can I make it only prompt me once?
[20:19] <Galvatron> priyank: What tutorial?
[20:19] <priyank> Basic book/tutorial/video for Operating System
[20:19] <priyank> understanding
[20:19] <pikaciu> bye
[20:19] <pangur> When I print a LibreOffice text document using A4 landscape, with two A5 pages side by side (margins set at .5 inch) - the right hand margin is often truncated a little (one or two characters).  My printer is a HP OfficejetPro L7680.  Does anyone else use this technique with better results?
[20:19] <ircEXPERT> Alex___: IANAL but it's likely you can derive a distribution from Ubuntu but not use trademarked items such as graphics, logos, etc.
[20:19] <Alex___> Ok Thanks All! I go  make my OWN OS!
[20:19] <Exxon> priyank, please elobrate the tutorials for which distro
[20:19] <tmg> Nomad: probably auth error
[20:19] <priyank> for ubuntu
[20:19] <priyank> 11.04
[20:20] <Alex___> ircEXPERT i will delite copyright
[20:20] <priyank> ubuntu 11.04
[20:20] <chilversc> odd, so nautilus can show .ico files but the launcher menu can't :s
[20:20] <Alex___> ircEXPERT, i will delite copyright
[20:20] <Si2100> priyank, why not 11.10
[20:20] <priyank> yep.. but I have currently 11.04 and I am newbie
[20:20] <Si2100> ow okie
[20:20] <Nomad> TMG- pls elaborate
[20:21] <jleeuwes> Travis-42: ik you have a key to the 'remote remote' server on your local machine, you can use agent forwarding. pass the -A option to ssh
[20:21] <pangur> My printing difficulty applies only when printing from ubuntu - not when printing from Windows 7
[20:21] <Exxon> priyank, keep comming on the irc when you have the time and many quesiton are been asked ..you can learn fair enough instead reading thing and before you finish the version already expired..
[20:21] <ddn> joint #iptables
[20:22] <priyank> ok.. :) but I just want to clear my basics of OS suggest some books/videos for that :)
[20:23] <Galvatron> Si2100: being as buggy as it it, it's a better aidea for a newbie to start with the 11.04
[20:23] <SilverFox> Alex___: I don't think its fair to say you 'made your own OS' by deleting portions.  That would be like me removing a hubcap from a car, and saying I made a car.
[20:23] <nobitanobi> anyone using CouchDB here? I have a problem when I do sudo couchdb -V I get a version, and when I do couchdb -V I get another version... any thoguhts?
[20:23] <Si2100> Gnome-Shell, works for me
[20:23] <Exxon> priyank, torrent is upload stuff and could be old..that is good enough for you to search
[20:23] <geoffmcc> priyank: it sounds like a cop out, but i learned everything i know from google and this channel
[20:23] <Si2100> Galvatron, am using it now
[20:23] <priyank> okk.. thanks.. :)
[20:24] <norpan> geoffmcc: hello mate, i dont know if you remember me? i had some issues with ubuntu only showing 1 core due to "nolapic" bootparameter. I SOLVED IT!
[20:24] <Galvatron> priyank: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ Generally, best youse Google and YouTube.
[20:24] <coolstar-pc> So I tried installing ubuntu on an external drive, but my bios doesn't recognize it as a boot device
[20:24] <geoffmcc> norpan: sounds familar. what was your solution
[20:25] <Alex___> SilverFox, terms of the law is valid
[20:25] <c_smith> Galvatron, Priyank has left, is there something I can help with?
[20:25] <Galvatron> No, I'm here as a supporter only.
[20:25] <c_smith> ah, ok, same here.
[20:25] <norpan> geoffmcc: well, i was desperate and just reflashed my BIOS, even thou i had latest version already. Then i deleted anything i had add in grub. and whoa! 8 cores popped up like a fairytale!
[20:25] <Si2100> Cool
[20:26] <norpan> geoffmcc: i mean i didnt boot with any special parameter like "nolapic" . and it works flaweless now
[20:26] <Exxon> norpan, sucess :)))
[20:27] <geoffmcc> norpan: good to know. I think someone was just in here not to long ago asking about the same thing, unless it was you and u just figured it out
[20:28] <norpan> geoffmcc: Might be, im just thankful you tried to help me. i never gave up =) thanks again!
[20:28] <SilverFox> Alex___: who cares about 'terms of the law'?  what benefit is there to remove something and claim credit for it?  what is the point?
[20:29] <Exxon> geoffmcc, what if could messed with bios Gentoo64 gave him green...
[20:29] <Alex___> SilverFoxIn, In a bad ideology ubuntu!
[20:29] <nobitanobi> Anyone could help me to uninstall couchdb from Ubuntu?
[20:30] <geoffmcc> Exxon: im sorry, im not understanding
[20:31] <Exxon> geoffmcc, i gave pm for gentoo64 not to go for this option ..conseq..but he came up with it..i will thank him and so do will he..:))
[20:31] <hatch> When I turn my wifi off on my laptop (hardware switch) if i toggle the switch again it still says its shut off.... I found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=980603  but any updates for Ubuntu 11?
[20:32] <SilverFox> Alex___: ahh... you're trying to make a point?  That to make something for the benefit of all is 'bad'.  I see.  Well, you cannot legally remove 'credit' from GPL'd software, I think you misunderstood.  You must leave credit for the original authors in place.  you can add/remove/augment and ADD your own name, but you need to maintain credit for the original authors.
[20:32] <geoffmcc> !offtopic | SilverFox Alex___
[20:34] <SilverFox> sorry to interupt geoffmcc
[20:34] <Exxon> hatch, lsusb -v can you paste the output or you can tell us the module has been loaded
[20:34] <Galvatron> nobitanobi: What's exactly the problem?
[20:35] <hatch> Exxon: ok I'm on my desktp right now so I cant post it but there is a ton of data printed out here
[20:35] <hatch> I have to log it to a file to see it all
[20:35] <Exxon> hatch, are you using external wifi or internal
[20:35] <yeats> hatch: pipe it to less: 'lsusb -v | less'
[20:36] <hatch> Exxon: its an internal card - Dell Vostro 3500
[20:36] <hatch> yeats:  ok
[20:36] <hatch> ok ill look through here to find the wifi
[20:36] <Exxon> hatch, can you identify the module if you lspci -v you will get the info
[20:37] <hatch> Exxon: yeah I'm just saying its printing a lot of information - which part do you need? :)
[20:37] <brisky> hello, everybody know how to compile the software gyachi on a x64 ?
[20:38] <KlanGB> Hi! When switch user account from 1 to 2 and then back there is no sound on account 1 after reboot sound back again distr 10.10
[20:38] <Exxon> hatch, paste the output ..i will have a look
[20:38] <hatch> Exxon: ok second
[20:39] <Galvatron> brisky: What does the INSTALL/README say?
[20:39] <Exxon> brisky, read the Readme after you extract..
[20:41] <brisky> Galvatron, exxon, i run the ./autogen.sh, then i do ./configure --disable-rpath --enable-maintainer-mode --prefix /usr,  and after i install all dependans (alot) and also find the old version of libgtkhtml2, i finally use Make, but at the end it give me an error
[20:42] <vinceusesMint> does anyone know if the mint irc channels are down? I need some help, perhaps it isnt mint specific
[20:43] <Duvrazh> Hello - I have an ubuntu server 11.10 that can see and ping the router, but no other network devices or internet. Can anyone help troubleshoot?
[20:43] <geoffmcc> brisky: what version of ubuntu are you using
[20:43] <Exxon> brisky, the version the package is old so complile the package according to you kernel version
[20:43] <KlanGB> Hi! When switch user account from 1 to 2 and then back there is no sound on account 1 after reboot sound back again . Ubuntu10.10
[20:43] <brisky> im using 11.10
[20:43] <venomcode> wine: Install the Windows version of Mono to run .NET executables
[20:43] <venomcode> helo
[20:43] <venomcode> help
[20:44] <hatch> Exxon: I Pm'd the link to the data you requested
[20:44] <Si2100> my understanding was .net dosent work on linux or wine
[20:44] <venomcode> wine: Install the Windows version of Mono to run .NET executables <[20:44] <Exxon> vinceusesMint, ubuntu is a cousin please be free to ask question here
[20:44] <Si2100> venomcode, my understanding was .net dosent work on linux or wine
[20:44] <venomcode> hmm
[20:44] <venomcode> that sucks
[20:45] <Si2100> i coud be wrong tho,
[20:45] <venomcode> it means i have to reinstall windows to run this packet sniffer i need
[20:45] <venomcode> fiddler
[20:45] <SilverFox> Duvrazh: run 'netstat -nr' you should have a default route in there.
[20:45] <Si2100> cundt u use a VM machine ?
[20:45] <SilverFox> Duvrazh: doublecheck it.
[20:45] <geoffmcc> brisky: article is for 11.04 but works on 11.10 as well -- http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-gyachi-on-ubuntu-11-04-natty-using-ppa.html
[20:45] <venomcode> it dosnt catch the packets i need
[20:45] <inashdeen> hi, how do i edit ubiquity
[20:45] <Si2100> okie
[20:46] <venomcode> god i really dont wanna install windows just for this 1 app
[20:46] <Si2100> venomcode, try installing .net and see what ahppens
[20:46] <venomcode> ok
[20:46] <Si2100> when i looked on WineHQ it said it was garbage =/
[20:47] <taruti> How do I force initrd to include cryptsetup? (I am switching over to an installation that has encrypted root)
[20:47] <venomcode> it errors when i try
[20:47] <Si2100> venomcode, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=2586
[20:47] <Galvatron> briskyvinceusesMint: A difference beetwen Ubuntu and Mint is very minor (themes + a few apps), so feel free to ask.
[20:47] <brisky> geoffmcc,  thanks im trying, i didnt found a ppa of that fork
[20:47] <Galvatron> vinceusesMint: A difference beetwen Ubuntu and Mint is very minor (themes + a few apps), so feel free to ask.
[20:47] <venomcode> Wine crashes
[20:48] <KlanGB> Hi! When switch user account from 1 to 2 and then back there is no sound on account 1 after reboot sound back again distr 10.10
[20:48] <Exxon> hatch, i saw that i did not find any thing that i want ..dell are you using will go to website of the vendor instead.
[20:48] <Galvatron> venomcode: As expected, since .NET is not supported by Wine.
[20:48] <hatch> Exxon: what information did you need?
[20:48] <venomcode> yea, that means i have to reinstall windows
[20:48] <venomcode> wow
[20:48] <hatch> the make of the wifi card?
[20:48] <merlin2069er> hey is there a way to export a list of software installed from the ubuntu software center?  I just bought a new SSD drive and going to reinstall everything.
[20:49] <merlin2069er> or almost everything
[20:49] <Si2100> venomcode, what was the program
[20:49] <venomcode> fiddler
[20:49] <Galvatron> venomcode: Or simply use a virtual machine.
[20:49] <Si2100> yeah thats what i sugested
[20:49] <venomcode> i tried but it dont pick up the packets i need
[20:49] <Galvatron> merlin2069er: You might clone the system with Clonezilla
[20:50] <Si2100> coudnt u try and get the manually ?
[20:51] <raptor67682> hello world
[20:51] <KlanGB> Hello people! Can anybody help me????
[20:51] <Seveas> !anybody | KlanGB
[20:52] <merlin2069er> i don't want to use clonezilla want to do a fresh install
[20:52] <KlanGB> Hi! When switch user account from 1 to 2 and then back there is no sound on account 1 after reboot sound back again distr 10.10
[20:52] <ceed^> I'm running latest Ubuntu on a laptop with an Intel i5 with GMA 900 graphics. What's the best output to use for video playback. xv, gl. gl2 or something else
[20:52] <merlin2069er> I'm sure there are a few things broken with my system
[20:52] <KlanGB> Seveas: Hi! When switch user account from 1 to 2 and then back there is no sound on account 1 after reboot sound back again distr 10.10
[20:53] <brisky> geoffmcc,  thanks!!
[20:53] <sovzed> is there any hotkey that takes me to the desktop? minimizes everything, etc?
[20:54] <Si2100> soved, you might be able to assign one
[20:54] <raptor67682> sovzed: which Window manager do you have ?
[20:54] <sovzed> unity
[20:54] <inashdeen> hi, how can i edit ubiquity?
[20:55] <KlanGB> Hi! When switch user account from 1 to 2 and then back there is no sound on account 1 after reboot sound back again. Ubuntu 10.10
[20:56] <Exxon> hatch, Dell Wireless HSPA 2.0 mini-card    this is what you must see the module no
[20:56] <raptor67682> sovzed: have you tried FLAG(win) + M ?
[20:56] <loglady> how do i conect to a server
[20:57] <sovzed> raptor67682:  that takes me to the panel where i can search for things (dunno the name in english :P)
[20:57] <hatch> Exxon: nope my wifi card according to this is a broadcom BCM4313
[20:57] <qin> loglady: /connect irc.your_server.org
[20:57] <Si2100> hatch, mines a BCM4312
[20:58] <Exxon> Si2100, you can help him...:))
[20:58] <zaffy> merlin2069er, take a look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4427303#post4427303
[20:58] <hatch> Si2100: and if you hit the physical toggle switch to shut your wifi off, can you toggle it back and it turns back on again?
[20:58] <Si2100> Uhh
[20:58] <hatch> I have to reboot
[20:58] <Si2100> Yeah
[20:58] <Si2100> What Dell have u got ?
[20:58] <hatch> Vostro 3500
[20:58] <hatch> Ubuntu 11.10
[20:58] <Si2100> i got a Studio 1558,
[20:58] <Si2100> sames
[20:59] <geoffmcc> hatch: are you using the sta drivers or the b43 drivers?
[20:59] <ghufran> hi. i am behind a proxy. i can access internet through the browsers but not through the terminal.. can someone help me figure it out? im using 11.10
[20:59] <Si2100> what i've found is that when u press the toggle button, but turns it off and tkaes a few moents to turn back on
[20:59] <Si2100> evern with reboots
[20:59] <Gentoo64> ghufran: like what? wget?
[20:59] <hatch> geoffmcc: brcmsmac is the kernel driver in use it says
[20:59] <Gentoo64> ghufran: change any programs proxy settings
[20:59] <hatch> Si2100: yeah this never turns back on
[21:00] <ghufran> Gentoo64: apt-get install ..
[21:00] <Si2100> hatch, er.. you could try reinsalling the driver
[21:00] <Gentoo64> ghufran: not sure about the proxy config for that
[21:00] <Si2100> hatch, what i also found was that once i installed it left it, cuz of this issue
[21:00] <hatch> they moved everything around from 10.04 to 11.10 I don't even know where most of the control panel stuff is anymore :)
[21:00] <geoffmcc> hatch: im not familar with your card, but it is a b43 - i use the firmware-b43-installer package and have no problems with my on/off switch
[21:00] <nobitanobi> Galvatron: Even though I've removed couchdb (or at least that's what I think) I keep been able to see it by doing couchdb -V
[21:01] <Si2100> hatch, what you trying to find
[21:01] <hatch> geoffmcc: ok and I would get that from apt?
[21:01] <hatch> Si2100: well pretty much any of the advanced config stuff is now gone
[21:01] <geoffmcc> hatch: yea you can use apt or software center
[21:01] <Si2100> advnaced config for wireless ?
[21:01] <hatch> Si2100: anything that was under System > Administration in 10.04
[21:01] <geoffmcc> hatch: once it downloads the driver it will set it up and activate, just restart
[21:02] <hatch> ok thanks I'll give that a go
[21:02] <Si2100> hatch, thats old school, am uysed to the system menu setting in.. 10.10 + Unity
[21:02] <Si2100> cuz am running Uubuntu 11.10 with Gnome-shell
[21:02] <hatch> Si2100: yeah so where are those same settings? :)
[21:02] <Gentoo64> hatch: click your name in the top right
[21:03] <zaffy> ghufran, take a look here: http://raetsel.wordpress.com/2006/10/29/laptop-build-apt-get-behind-a-proxy/
[21:03] <sovzed> is there any hotkey that takes me to the desktop? minimizes everything, etc? windowsflag + M wont work, in previous version i could find a button on the startbar that would let me do that
[21:03] <Bliepo> Hey everyone, I have a problem with unity. I added a zeitgeist ppa to install the Activity Log Manager. Then, an update from the ppa seems to have damaged zeitgeist. Now unity will not  search for apps, or anything else for the matter. Somebody know a fix?
[21:03] <Si2100> there mixed into system menu
[21:04] <hatch> yeah the 'System Settings' is very basic compared to what it was before
[21:04] <Si2100> true,
[21:04] <Si2100> is the wireless showing up under Network connection ?
[21:04] <hatch> yup it works now
[21:04] <Si2100> FTW,
[21:04] <Si2100> just dont tohc the toggle button
[21:05] <hatch> Si2100: well which kind of sucks because I loose easily 1.5h of battery in Ubuntu vs Win 7 on this thing
[21:05] <hatch> so I was hoping to turn it off to save some power
[21:05] <Si2100> okie,
[21:05] <Si2100> er.. do it from the dropbox network on the left hand side
[21:05] <Si2100> cuz the toggle turns off the actual card
[21:06] <hatch> ohh i see, so do it via software not hardware
[21:06] <hatch> good idea
[21:06] <Si2100> yea
[21:06] <Si2100> But my dells seems to be fine wirth WiFi on all the time
[21:06] <Si2100> but then i have it pluged in as well...
[21:07] <ghufran> zaffy, i applied the proxy settings 'globally' but it doesnt appear to work .. its giving an error for some other proxy address !
[21:07] <KM0201> that kinda makes a difference.. :)
[21:07] <hatch> :)
[21:07] <Krenair> When is the eclipse package going to be updated? :/
[21:07] <Krenair> for natty
[21:08] <Si2100> hatch, Sorted then xD
[21:08] <Ashfame> Can't use more than 3.2GB RAM on my 64bit machine
[21:08] <hatch> Si2100: well the outcome isn't ideal but it'll have to do :D
[21:08] <Exxon> Si2100, yeh..he did ..:))
[21:08] <Si2100> hatch, Yeah i now
[21:08] <hatch> thanks for the help all!
[21:08] <Si2100> =)
[21:09] <Bliepo> Ashfame, did you install the 64bit version?
[21:09] <Ashfame> Bliepo: Yes! 64 bit only. Here is the progress & dump of commands
[21:09] <Ashfame> http://askubuntu.com/questions/82917/ubuntu-detects-only-3-2gb-ram-on-a-64bit-os
[21:09] <arejano> server: /server irc.redebr.org
[21:10] <sovzed> is there any hotkey that takes me to the desktop? minimizes everything, etc? windowsflag + M wont work, in previous version i could find a button on the startbar that would let me do that
[21:10] <Bliepo> Hmmm, let's see
[21:10] <Exxon> Ashfame, what does that mean
[21:11] <Ashfame> Exxon: My 64bit Ubuntu is only using 3.2GB out of 6GB installed
[21:11] <jcdenton> Hello
[21:11] <zaffy> ghufran, i have the proxy setting in /etc/profile, in /etc/apt/apt.conf and in /etc/wgetrc and all my problems of proxy disappeared,,, try tweak all three
[21:11] <hatch> Ashfame: are you on 64bit hardware?
[21:12] <Exxon> Ashfame, so in any way you are never going to use all the 6gb instead in ubuntu anyway
[21:12] <magicgerbile> i've got a little problem with flash, i cant click on things in it..
[21:12] <magicgerbile> any way to work around this
[21:12] <Ashfame> hatch: yes! I wouldn't have been able to install 64bit OS otherwise
[21:12] <Ashfame> Exxon: why?
[21:12] <coolstar> Does anyone know of a good utility for Ubuntu to tether boot an iPhone?
[21:13] <magicgerbile1> i've tried searching the forums, looks like a common problem but seen no solution so far
[21:13] <Exxon> Ashfame, if you could know this you could calibrate ubuntu accordingly
[21:13] <coolstar> I hate having to go to windows to boot my iPod
[21:13] <ghufran> zaffy: i tried the first step only. but even that fails.. i get a bad url error for the proxy url. the port for proxy is 3128 and my password also contains a '#' character
[21:13] <inashdeen> is there a way to install kazam on oneiric?
[21:13] <Bliepo> I think I'll ask my question on the Ubuntu forum. Seems that nobody has a clue
[21:13] <Ashfame> Exxon: Sorry didn't get it
[21:14] <magicgerbile> anyone has any idea how to handle the flash issue?
[21:14] <Bliepo> magicgerbile, it depends, what is your issue?
[21:14] <Exxon> Ashfame, there is no need to other things are working fine so be with it ...advance and you would understand for you self.
[21:14] <zaffy> ghufran, is there a syntax problem then?
[21:15] <Bliepo> oh
[21:15] <Bliepo> ic
[21:15] <Ashfame> Exxon, you mean I should be fine with installing 6GB RAM and only be able to use 3.2GB?
[21:15] <inashdeen> bump
[21:15] <Bliepo> magicgerbile, does it happen all the time, or only on certain conditions?
[21:16] <Exxon> Ashfame, even with 32gb that should not be ubuntu's problem should it...
[21:16] <hatch> Exxon: he is asking why it won't work, not saying that it's ubuntu's falt
[21:16] <ghufran> zaffy: don't think so .. export http_proxy="http://username:password@cache.cites-u.univ-nantes.fr:3128"
[21:16] <jpmh> I have a file in the /tmp directory, its permissions are 777 or rwxrwxrwx - I am not the owner, why can I not remove it?
[21:17] <Ashfame> hatch, thanks for backing me up! I love Ubuntu more than Mac OS :D
[21:17]  * jadon hi
[21:17] <Ashfame> I would install Ubuntu even on a MBP, so I don't have anything against Ubuntu
[21:17] <jadon> how do you direct a message to someone
[21:17] <escott> jpmh, its called the sticky bit
[21:17] <Ashfame> I just want to fix it, get up & running
[21:18] <hatch> jadon:  /msg nickname msg
[21:18] <Exxon> hatch, i can fix any amount of the ram into my system but really i should know for what purpose and how to utlize it..
[21:18] <zaffy> ghufran, I mean about the '#' character
[21:18] <hatch> Exxon: with Windows you just plug it in and it works :)
[21:18] <hatch> he wants to enable that extra ram
[21:18] <Ashfame> Exxon: 2GB RAM is not sufficient for 10+ tabs in Chrome.
[21:19] <jpmh> escot
[21:19] <ghufran> zaffy: so you suggest i try changing the password? i think i am required to have at least one punctuation .. :S
[21:19] <Exxon> hatch, fix 4 gb and it will show you something they are happy with that..then why then complain here
[21:19] <magicgerbile> great
[21:19] <guntbert> jadon: just put the nick of the person at the begining of your statement
[21:19] <zaffy> ghufran, if your passwd is something like 'good#morning', everything after good is a comment for the file
[21:19] <Ashfame> Exxon: Any JAVA based IDE takes 400-500MB RAM, so I need it
[21:19] <jadon> guntbert like so
[21:19] <guntbert> jadon: :)
[21:19] <Ashfame> Exxon: For God sake, where did I even complain?
[21:19] <jadon> tmg you on?
[21:19] <hatch> Exxon: sorry I'm not sure what your saying, my computer is using all the supplied ram just fine, his is not - he wants to fix that
[21:20] <zaffy> ghufran, I don't remember how to enter those special characters
[21:20] <jpmh> escott: what is the sticky bit and how do I undo it?  Why does it not show when I do an ls -l as something other than rwxrwxrwx then?
[21:21] <escott> jpmh, you should not undo the sticky bit. it is there for security reasons
[21:21] <ghufran> zaffy: okay no problem .. i'll try to fix this .. though im surprised that this is an issue!
[21:21] <glebihan> jpmh, the problem is not with the "sticky" bit, but the permission to delete a file does not depend on the permissions set on a file, but on those set on the folder containing it
[21:21] <jpmh> escott: is it on the file or the directory?
[21:21] <Dattilografomat> Can someone help me with Jack audio, please?
[21:21] <escott> jpmh, do not change the sticky bit settings.
[21:21] <jpmh> glebihan: ty - that makes more sense
[21:22] <zaffy> ghufran, by the way, the mods should take effect the next login
[21:22] <Exxon> hatch, can you elobrate to compile kernel..and some mistake is make there will end up with fried components..can you take that chance
[21:22] <geoffmcc> !justask | Dattilografomat
[21:22] <hatch> Ashfame: sorry I tried, doesn't look like Exxon understands the question
[21:22] <Vigani> printer cannon mp560 not working with ubuntu 10.11
[21:22] <Vigani> sory 11.4
[21:22] <Vigani> sory again 11.10
[21:22] <Exxon> Ashfame, so you tried to compile kernel
[21:23] <Dattilografomat> Thanks, geoffmcc! I need help with connecting my usb mic via Jack.
[21:23] <Ashfame> hatch: yeah me too
[21:23] <Ashfame> Exxon: No I have the kernel which came with Ubuntu
[21:23] <jpmh> escott: is the t on the directory the sticky bit - if so - then I do see that it is set - ty
[21:23] <vicente> need help installing n10 drivers can anyone guide me through it?
[21:23] <magicgerbile> fixed it by myself, thanks for the help
[21:23] <Ashfame> Exxon: Didn't modded the system much, pretty much running at default
[21:23] <Bliepo> Well, if anyone wants to help me, please take a look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1887281
[21:24] <Dattilografomat> I use QjackCtl to define the audio input, but it does not work.
[21:24] <fellayaboy> how do i restart the sound services..it messed up
[21:25] <Exxon> Ashfame, keep it that way..don't worry ram is not a big issue once you understand you can compile..with good understanding about the hardware.
[21:25] <escott> jpmh, yes and dont change it
[21:25] <fellayaboy> my sound kinda froze or stopped responding..how can i restart it
[21:25] <jase_> fellayaboy: alsactl init
[21:25] <Dattilografomat> What do you think: what do I have to do?
[21:26] <Ashfame> Exxon: You mean if I recomplie kernel, it will recognize all the RAM?
[21:26] <Bliepo> Exxon,  he just wants to fix it. I would be annoyed as well. He payed for it and wants to use it.
[21:26] <fellayaboy> jase_, this works for 11.04
[21:26] <fellayaboy> ?
[21:27] <jpmh> escott: having just reead up on it, I tend to agree with you - ty
[21:27] <Dattilografomat> (Apparently, no one knows the answer? =-O )
[21:27] <Exxon> Ashfame, yes but if you mess you you end up some things not working at all.
[21:27] <Ashfame> Exxon: What about a fresh install?
[21:27] <jase_> Yep, think so, or try sudo service alsasound restart
[21:29] <Ashfame> Exxon: But then shouldn't a live run from a bootable USB recognize full 6GB RAM? I have tried that, it doesn't
[21:29] <Exxon> Ashfame, ubuntu kernel is for any computer simply to install and require very less ram to run..with that power comes responsibllity that you should know
[21:29] <Dattilografomat> ?
[21:29] <sovzed> teratoma: sorry didnt see u had answered me, i use ubuntu 11.10, (the question was "how can i enable links in irssi")
[21:30] <sovzed> woops, wrong channel
[21:30] <geoffmcc> Ashfame: not to doubt you, but have you run uname -a and assure it is 64bit?
[21:30] <dr_willis> 64bit from a live usb sees all of my 8gb here
[21:30] <jay12> hey... I installed xampp and everything is ok except I don't have oracle/OCI8 installed for it... I just want to mess around with a little PHP, this shouldn't be a prob, no?
[21:30] <Ashfame> Exxon: Yeah why not! And I can see with great knowledge comes great arrogance. You are so not in open source spirit
[21:30] <Ashfame> geoffmcc: yes I am running 64bit
[21:31] <Dattilografomat> I think I have to go.
[21:31] <Dattilografomat> Bye.
[21:31] <hh> Hi, is there any way to make fluxbox remember the windows it had open when I log out?
[21:31] <Ashfame> geoffmcc: Tried a lot so far - http://askubuntu.com/questions/82917/ubuntu-detects-only-3-2gb-ram-on-a-64bit-os
[21:31] <Exxon> Ashfame, after all 8 gb ram is biting you isin't it.
[21:32] <Bliepo> Exxon & Ashfame, just keep it at that you two
[21:32] <geoffmcc> Ashfame: yea, i came across that too, just seems like everything i see says if it 64b it should work, unless something is wrong w/ mem... but u said it shows in bios so i am at a loss
[21:32] <Exxon> k
[21:32] <geoffmcc> Ashfame: dr_willis says his works so i think you may have a problem with your memory or board
[21:33] <Ashfame> Bliepo: I am out
[21:33] <Bliepo> ok
[21:33] <Ashfame> geoffmcc: yeah! dr_willis?
[21:34] <Bliepo> Ashfame, perhaps you could also try the LTS version, just to see if it does support the full RAM
[21:34] <Ashfame> Bliepo: Live boot of 10.10 right? 32 or 64 bit?
[21:34] <Ashfame> 10.04*
[21:35] <Bliepo> I'd try 64 bit first, but you could also try 32 if that doesn't work
[21:35] <coolstar> Or try pae
[21:35] <Bliepo> It's pae standard
[21:35] <Ashfame> Bliepo: ok once I try the current 11.10 32 bit ISO, I will do those two too
[21:35] <Bliepo> Yeah, good luck!
[21:36] <saulotoledo> People, after a system upgrade my Gnome 3.2 installation do not runs mutter anymore, like XOrg dropped animations support. But I don't have the old xorg.conf file to restore and don't know how to do this now. Already tried fix without success. My computer is a ASUS EEEPC 1005HA netbok running Ubuntu Oineric
[21:37] <Ashfame> Bliepo: 10.04 32bit should use PAE by itself, right?
[21:37] <Bliepo> Yes, it does
[21:37] <Ashfame> Bliepo: Cool! Thanks
[21:37] <Bliepo> no problem
[21:38] <sovzed> is there any hotkey that takes me to the desktop? minimizes everything, etc? windowsflag + M wont work, in previous version i could find a button on the startbar that would let me do that
[21:40] <jase_> sovzed: ctl+alt+d....try that
[21:41] <sovzed> if i do that it says that im on the desktop but all the windows that i dont have maxmimized appear...so i still have to minimize em
[21:41] <Krenair> When will the eclipse package be updated for Ubuntu 11.04?
[21:41] <bruenig> never
[21:41] <bruenig> muahahaha
[21:41] <sovzed> why did they remove the button that minimized everything
[21:42] <bruenig> because they wanted to
[21:42] <bruenig> muahahaha
[21:42] <roasted> is Ubuntu unity based on compiz or was it only 11.04 that was?
[21:42] <jase_> sovzed: you're using Unity?
[21:42] <jerenept> ?
[21:42] <sovzed> yes
[21:42] <jerenept> Ubuntu above 10.10uses compiz for unity
[21:43] <roasted> Oh. I thought 1104 and 1110 were different
[21:43] <saulotoledo> bruenig: lol xD
[21:44] <jase_> I'm not using Unity so can only suggest you have a look at the compizconfig-settings-manger, see if there's anything in the Unity section
[21:44] <escott> roasted, thats gnome not unity
[21:45] <roasted> No. I mean unity
[21:45] <roasted> Unity in 1104 was gtk2 based, 1110 was gtk 3 based
[21:45] <Si2100> No
[21:45] <roasted> But I wasn't sure if compiz was used in 1110
[21:45] <Si2100> 11.10 was GTK with Unity ?
[21:45] <sovzed> jase_: u use gnome3?
[21:46] <escott> roasted, but both versions of unity use compiz. gnome switched window managers to mutter
[21:46] <Si2100> am using Gnome 3
[21:46] <c_smith> roasted. incorrect, 11.10 uses GNOME3 for the windows, Unity is a Compiz plugin
[21:46] <sovzed> is it possible to have gnome3 and unity at same time? i mean, both installed and running properly, so u can switch from one to another?
[21:46] <c_smith> sovzed, it is VERY possible in 11.10
[21:46] <escott> sovzed, yes install gnome-shell and select what you want at the login screen
[21:46] <jwtiyar> why i cant install ia32-libs from terminal it say not ??
[21:47] <jwtiyar> why i cant install ia32-libs from terminal it say not  found package??
[21:47] <sovzed> ok, i installed gnome3, and when i log out i can choose it, but it never loads, i always get back to unity
[21:47] <escott> jwtiyar, the 32bit libs have changed with 11.10 see multiarch
[21:47] <roasted> I am correct. 04 used gtk 2, 10 uses gtk 3. What i'm curious about was compiz.... Not gnome 3
[21:47] <c_smith> sovzed, to go along with what I and escott have said, I'll say GNOME3 Shell runs really well
[21:47] <Si2100> Sovzed, u need to uninstall the graphics driv er if its ATI
[21:47] <sovzed> escott: i already did but when i choose gnome i end up here
[21:47] <jase_> ia32-libs-multiarch
[21:47] <sovzed> Si2100: oh, and then reinstall it again?
[21:48] <roasted> Doesn't help i'm on my phone....
[21:48] <Si2100> no
[21:48] <jwtiyar> escott, i installed multiarch but still ask to install ia32libs
[21:48] <Si2100> uninsatll and leave it, otherwise it breaks
[21:48] <Si2100> and could result in a reload of Ubuntu
[21:48] <Si2100> which i learnt the hardway
[21:48] <escott> sovzed, its possible that gnome3 isn't detecting the video cards
[21:48] <c_smith> roasted, as people have said, Unity is a Compiz plugin, but I've also read that it's also part GNOME plugin, too
[21:48] <sovzed> that sucks, hmm how do i uninstall a driver?
[21:48] <Si2100> go to addition drivers
[21:48] <Si2100>  and click remove and then reboot
[21:49] <escott> jwtiyar, if you have an old package that is asking for ia32-libs it needs to be updated to directly request the i386 version of the package you want
[21:49] <bfreis> hi, I'm trying to launch a virtual server (on eucalyptus) with ubuntu 11.10, but it fails to boot: VFS: Cannot open root device "sda1" or unknown-block(0,0).
[21:49] <bfreis> any ideas on what could I do to make it work?
[21:49] <c_smith> roasted, so, in a sense, everyone here is correct.
[21:49] <escott> jwtiyar, but you should also be able to install a 32bit program directly by downloading and installing an i386 deb
[21:49] <jwtiyar> escott, i have 11.10 my ubuntu is 64 bit
[21:50] <escott> jwtiyar, i know, but you can install i386 on that system see http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.debian.org%2FMultiarch&ei=D1_RTt-rO4X_sQKqxMDrDg&usg=AFQjCNHXzkz3np6hNCRsW5fvVgFfZQVeSw&sig2=_d2a46g3joPUqzCW18WRXw
[21:50] <escott> jwtiyar, http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch
[21:51] <jwtiyar> escott, ok thanks i will try now
[21:51] <saulotoledo> People, somebody help me to debug why my gnome 2.3 do not starts correctily, only at classic session.
[21:51] <saulotoledo> *3.2
[21:51] <Si2100> Guys, How do i update gnome-shell from 3.2.1 to 3.3.2 ?
[21:52] <Si2100> saulotoledo, Check the graphics
[21:52] <jwtiyar> escott, i installed .deb file and stil ask to install it
[21:53] <escott> jwtiyar, you can force it to ignore dependencies and manually resolve them with ldd. or get yourself an updated 11.10 compatible .deb
[21:53] <saulotoledo> Si2100: When this version come to repository. There are a unstable PPA here, but your system can be unstable: https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/ppa
[21:54] <Si2100> saulotoledo, Cool, found the link on google xD
[21:54] <c3ll> hey guys
[21:54] <saulotoledo> Si2100: :D
[21:54] <jwtiyar> escott, warned me i did ignore and install , sorry but i don understand what u talking about i have 11.10
[21:54] <saulotoledo> Si2100: About the graphics, xorg log file isn't sufficient... where more can I found info about?
[21:54] <Si2100> er... under system settings, then
[21:55] <c3ll> does anyone here have any experience using siege? I have been having a problem with it and, socket errors
[21:55] <Si2100> system informaitomn
[21:55] <Si2100> i have: Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV710
[21:55] <Si2100> and Gnome-shell works fine
[21:55] <escott> jwtiyar, the deb you are downloading is not an 11.10 deb. its an 11.04 or older deb. im not sure where you are getting it from, but that deb is the problem
[21:55] <Si2100> no ATI crap.. that breaks the system
[21:56] <Si2100> Awww crap, it broke somink
[21:56] <jwtiyar> escott, so what i have to do? i got it in ubuntu forums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=891513
[21:56] <orated> I get that my user is not in sudoers list.. This incident will be reported error. How to fix?
[21:57] <gmzlj> orated: are you in wheel?
[21:57] <bastidrazor> orated: login through your admin account and add your user to admin group.
[21:57] <orated> gmzlj: Wheel?
[21:57] <gmzlj> ubuntu use wheel? or is it renamed?
[21:57] <escott> jwtiyar, why are you trying to install ia32libs
[21:57] <escott> gmzlj, admin group
[21:58] <orated> bastidrazor: How to login to admin account?
[21:58] <gmzlj> orated: only memebers of the admin group can sudo. guess its admin, not wheel
[21:58] <bastidrazor> orated: its the username you used when installing Ubuntu.
[21:58] <dssdsd> ds
[21:58] <sbram80> hi, can I trouble anyone for a little help please?
[21:59] <jwtiyar> escott, IAM now trying to cock the ANdroid Rom for my mobile so must i have this to rebuild .
[21:59] <sbram80> hi, can I trouble anyone for a little help with installation please?
[22:00] <jase_> sure
[22:00] <escott> jwtiyar, so what you should do is figure out what 32bit libraries you actually need, and what package they are from and then install them directly like so "apt-get install some_library_package:i386"
[22:00] <sbram80> k, when i use the disc i reboot to windows change bios etc
[22:00] <orated> bastidrazor: I did not install it
[22:00] <escott> jwtiyar, but the instructions you are looking at that are telling you to install ia32libs is out of date
[22:01] <sbram80> it loads ubuntu to the purple screen, then after maybe 10 seconds the screen goes multi coloured and I have to unplug the PC to restart it
[22:01] <bastidrazor> orated: then ask the person who did install it. they have access to the admin account.
[22:01] <gmzlj> orated: someone else's machine then?
[22:01] <jwtiyar> escott, its problem i dont know what to do , the instruction is closed i cant ask
[22:01] <sbram80> any thoughts?
[22:02] <orated> bastidrazor: no, its my machine. I took help to install it. I tried echo, su, sudo ,visudo.. not working
[22:02] <orated> gmzlj: my machine
[22:02] <escott> jwtiyar, you only need to install libraries to make a program run
[22:02] <jase_> sbram80: not many, can you boot from a live cd/usb?
[22:02] <bastidrazor> orated: is your username the only account on the machine?
[22:02] <jwtiyar> escott, they are wrote this QUESTION: I am using Ubuntu Linux on a 64-bit Windows PC, and whenever I run 'zipalign' I get an error about "No such file or directory".
[22:02] <jwtiyar> You need to install the Ubuntu package "ia32-libs".
[22:02] <jwtiyar>  
[22:02] <sbram80> it is with the live CD, i can't even run it never mind install it
[22:03] <escott> jwtiyar, so you either know the name of the program you need to use in which case you can apt-get install program:i386 or you have a deb which you could install forcing dependencies and then identify the missing libraries with ldd
[22:03] <badbandit> hey so I ran some command I found that enabled me to ctrl+c and ctrl+v using keyboard in terminal... now when running django development server when I tried to end the server with the old ctrl+c, it doesnt work, how can I fix this/
[22:03] <gmzlj> orated: do you see admin when you run groups?
[22:03] <jwtiyar> escott, whats ldd ?
[22:03] <gmzlj> orated: from the command line?
[22:03] <Phibs> Are there MySQL 5.5 packages for 11.10 ?
[22:03] <escott> jwtiyar, run "ldd /bin/bash" and it tells you what libraries the bash executable depends upon
[22:06] <jwtiyar> escott, http://paste.ubuntu.com/750819/
[22:06] <sbram80> I'm def not hopeless on computers but i'm a WIN7 user, I have had ubuntu installed in the past on this PC, but I have a new HDD since then, but even when I try to install to the old HDD it does the same
[22:06] <jase_> so it won't even boot from the CD? you can't get to the desktop running from the live CD?
[22:07] <orated> bastidrazor: One more user gmzlj: No, I don't see admin. I see my name and other username
[22:07] <escott> jwtiyar, i dont know what you are trying to do. and i dont know where you are seeing these instructions, but they are wrong for 11.10
[22:07] <sbram80> I even try to install via Windows and when it says you must now restart your PC to complete installation it still tries to load then the crazy coloured screen pops up, no can't get to the desktop
[22:07] <bastidrazor> orated: is the other user the admin account?
[22:07] <gmzlj> orated: you need to get yourself in the admin group
[22:07] <orated> bastidrazor: How to check that?
[22:08] <jwtiyar> escott, so sorry , thank u very much
[22:08] <bastidrazor> orated: login to it and try using sudo.
[22:08] <orated> gmzlj: Yes, wondering
[22:08] <jase_> I'm not in the admin group and I can sudo ok
[22:08] <bastidrazor> jase_: are you using ubuntu?
[22:08] <raptor67682> hello world
[22:08] <gmzlj> jase_: do you have wheel?
[22:09] <jase_> nope
[22:10] <orated> bastidrazor: No password of that user
[22:10] <sbram80> I d/loaded [ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386], installed to CD with IMGburn and powerISO but doesn't get past the first purple loading screen with the small USB like symbol at the bottom
[22:10] <bastidrazor> orated: are you using ubuntu?
[22:10] <escott> !xy | jwtiyar if you can explain what you are actually trying to do (not the i need ia32libs part but the part before that) then someone may be able to help
[22:10] <orated> bastidrazor: Yes!
[22:10] <orated> bastidrazor: Ubuntu 11.10
[22:10] <jase_> sbram80:  maybe try reburning to another disc if you've not already
[22:11] <ruser> hey gusy, i was tryign to reecover usb, long story short i overwrote the partinting on my hdd, and already rebooted, any way for me to recover it?
[22:11] <sbram80> ah, i have tried several discs, tried 11.04 too
[22:11] <escott> !nomodeset | sbram80 have you tried this
[22:11] <orated> bastidrazor: Let me see if I can login to that user account
[22:11] <sbram80> even tried USB, still the same
[22:11] <jase_> ok, sounds like ubottu's ideas worth a try
[22:11] <jwtiyar> escott, iam trying repackaging an ROM to my Android phone so it ask me to install ia32libs , i dont know why he need this .
[22:12] <sbram80> I shall have a look ubottu
[22:12] <escott> jwtiyar, and thats what you need to figure out then. you need some program in ia32libs (possibly this zipalign program) but ia32libs does not exist. figure out what you need from ia32libs and install it directly
[22:13] <orated> bastidrazor: I don't see admin under groups. I cannot login with other username on this system. Sudo, su, visudo, echo is giving me permission denied error
[22:13] <jwtiyar> escott, yesss i have to zipallign my app so it this ia32
[22:14] <raptor67682> hello world
[22:14] <cablop> how hard is to clone a linux partition?
[22:14] <Krenair> When will the eclipse package be updated for Ubuntu 11.04?
[22:14] <jerenept> printf("hello world!\n");
[22:14] <cablop> i want to move the rot partition to a diferent hard disk , root partition is on a lvm volume
[22:14] <jerenept> You can use GParted to do that cablop
[22:14] <jwtiyar> escott, but i dont know why need ia32
[22:14] <escott> jwtiyar, and do you have a zipalign binary or installer? have you checked for an updated installer or a 64bit version
[22:15] <jerenept> I think, never did it with lvm
[22:15] <bastidrazor> orated: ask the person who helped you install it.
[22:15] <cablop> gparted never recognized my lvm partitions...
[22:15] <raptor67682>   echo "hello world"
[22:15] <cablop> gparted never recognized my lvm partitions... jerenept
[22:15] <escott> cablop, the problem with moving a root partition is you have to update things like fstab
[22:15] <jwtiyar> escott, i dont understand :(
[22:15] <cablop> escott: yes i know, it is not problem i can update them...
[22:15] <bastidrazor> orated: is this a VPS?
[22:16] <escott> cablop, well its easy to clone. you could do it with dd, or use a higher level tool like lvm snapshots or clonezilla
[22:16] <cablop> my plan is clone the boot partition to the second disk, create a new swap, update both things
[22:17] <orated> bastidrazor: Yes
[22:17] <cablop> escott: but i am afraid that dd depends on the healthy state of the target disk... one damaged sector and i'm done :S
[22:17] <dark> i'm using ubuntu 11.04. how can I install the mplayer plugin for firefox? there is no mozilla-mplayer package. (also, on chromium). i'm currently using totem plugin
[22:17] <bastidrazor> orated: vps.. then ask the provider.
[22:17] <Kimble> hi. Running 11.10 headless, accessing CLI over SSH.   I've just inserted an SD card into the server - how do I mount it?
[22:18] <xy> oh, ubottu has saved my name :), but its about a newb problem >:-(
[22:18] <escott> cablop, the drive should be capable of remapping a bad sector or two. if its not then its not a drive you can trust
[22:18] <MeQuerSat> Kimble, how many harddrives are connected?
[22:18] <Kimble> Just the internal SATA drive, and the SD card.
[22:18] <escott> jwtiyar, what command are you running prior that tells you to install ia32libs
[22:18] <MeQuerSat> good chance the SD card is under /dev/sdb1
[22:18] <cablop> escott: i planned to clone the volume, via lvm, then rename them, and restart, i tested it even inside encrypted partitions and it worked :)
[22:19] <bastidrazor> Kimble: its possible it mounted it automagically. look in /media or /mnt
[22:19] <Kimble> the only thing in /media is cdrom.  nothing in /mnt
[22:19] <Reikoku> Hi, can anyone tell me if there's a ppa for fglrx beta?
[22:19] <glebihan> dark, I think the package for that is gecko-mediaplayer
[22:19] <sbram80> that tutorial just makes my mind bend :(
[22:19] <MeQuerSat> Kimble, do a sudo ls -a /dev/
[22:19] <orated> bastidrazor: Why only admin/provider can help here?
[22:19] <bastidrazor> Kimble: sudo fdisk -l ..that'll show any drive connected
[22:20] <bastidrazor> orated: because you don't have physical access and you don't own it.
[22:20] <jwtiyar> escott, when i want to ziallign all apps
[22:20] <MeQuerSat> fdisk -l is even better :)
[22:20] <te> dark: I think mplayer plugin has been replace by the totem plugin
[22:20] <orated> bastidrazor: I've physical access to my system. I'm a user of the system
[22:20] <dark> glebihan, no chromium/webkit version?
[22:20] <escott> MeQuerSat, /proc/partitions. fdisk cannot understand gpt
[22:20] <cablop> escott... seems interesting, but, isn't just ok to just cp -Rp /boot /boot_new  ??
[22:21] <orated> bastidrazor: Can VPS name help?
[22:21] <dark> te, totem was default since at least 6.06 .. so it's not really a replacement
[22:21] <MeQuerSat> escott, why are you telling me that? :o
[22:21] <bastidrazor> orated: no.
[22:21] <Kimble> Aha, I think it's /dev/mmcblk0
[22:21] <glebihan> dark, it's in the same package (see the package description for the list of supported browsers)
[22:21] <Kimble> Yes, the filesystem type matches the medium.
[22:21] <jase_> cablop: thats pretty much what I'd do
[22:21] <escott> cablop, sure but use cp -ax instead of p
[22:22] <MeQuerSat> Kimble: thats a weird place, I would have expected /dev/sdb1 or /dev/sdc1
[22:22] <jwtiyar> escott, this http://paste.ubuntu.com/750843/
[22:22] <escott> MeQuerSat, because advising people to use fdisk is inappropriate for some systems
[22:22] <cablop> escott why -ax?
[22:22] <dark> somethign that bugs me is that ubuntu documentation is often outdated. like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxPlugins https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[22:22] <escott> cablop, you dont want symlinks dereferenced
[22:22] <bastidrazor> orated: its possible you're using a derivative of ubuntu or a tweaked version. Ubuntu gives the username used during installation as the admin user.
[22:23] <MeQuerSat> escott, I know gdisk gives gpt partitions too, but we were talking about a SD-card, do you think that has a GPT partition? no...
[22:23] <bastidrazor> escott: for ubuntu it isn't.
[22:23] <Kimble> Ok. how do I mount this partition now?  Additional Q: should ubuntu support FAT16 by default?
[22:23] <cablop> escott: right... but why i left p out of the parameters? i need to keep both permissions and acls
[22:23] <MeQuerSat> Kimble: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdcard
[22:24] <MeQuerSat> replacing /dev/sdb1 with the appropriate device location
[22:24] <te> Kimble: Yes fat16 is supported
[22:24] <bastidrazor> Kimble: it does. create a mountpoint, an empty directory, then sudo mount /dev/sd?? /mountpoint
[22:24] <escott> MeQuerSat, in that case its fine. i wasn't following the chain. i just see a lot of fdisk -l thrown around and its usually people who aren't aware of /proc/partitions
[22:24] <thomedy> im trying to find my php.ini file..i waas told it would be in /etc/php5/apache
[22:24] <thomedy> i dont have apache i have cli and conf.d
[22:24] <thomedy> what am i missing
[22:24] <jase_> locate?
[22:24] <escott> cablop, -p is preserve=mode,ownership,timestamps. but does not preserve links
[22:24] <glebihan> dark, well that documentation is community-maintained, so when you see a page that's outdated you can update it ;)
[22:25] <jakupl> Hey people. I'm trying to setup a DNS server, but I need some clarification on the zone files and how it all works.
[22:25] <thomedy> jase is that for me?
[22:25] <jase_> yep, sorry
[22:25] <cablop> escott can i use it in combination with ax?
[22:26] <escott> cablop, read the man page -a is preserve=all
[22:26] <enav> hello im installed the application Autojump from the software center but it wont work
[22:26] <thomedy> thank you... i hear there was more than one php.ini
[22:26] <thomedy> is that true
[22:26] <dark> glebihan, you're right, but any user that sees this just sees it's from help.ubuntu.com (therefore seemingly official), but is also really outdated
[22:26] <jakupl> Does anyone have experience with DNS servers?
[22:26] <enav> this site says the solution but i dont understand https://github.com/joelthelion/autojump/issues/65
[22:26] <almoxarife> jakupl: you need a full blown out dns server or you want to cache?
[22:26] <cablop> escott:  hmmm, it makes me wonder about one thing... i moved the home folder to another partition but with cp -p not that command... making me wonder if that thing is working as expected... :S
[22:26] <escott> cablop, any symlinks got dereferenced in doing that
[22:27] <Kimble> Hi. It tells me I must specify the filesystem type.
[22:27] <jakupl> almoxarife: I'm not sure... cache I think. I only want it to affect external domains. I just want faster DNS, so I figured it would help to use my local ubuntu server as DNS server
[22:27] <gener1c> is there a way to check howmuch b/w a single run of an app i wrote eats?
[22:27] <cablop> does a clean home use symlinks?
[22:27] <cablop> escott:  does a clean home use symlinks?
[22:27] <te> jakupl: You have a router?
[22:28] <jakupl> yes
[22:28] <bastidrazor> cablop: no.
[22:28] <te> jakupl: Should have a caching dns server on it.
[22:28] <Kimble> also, do i mount the root device (ie. mmcblk0) or the partition (mmcblk0p1)?
[22:28] <cablop> bastidrazor: nice... i created the /home... ah, but i started one gnome session... maybe that  thing...
[22:28] <almoxarife> jakupl: I got a link for you, let me find it
[22:28] <te> jakupl: They usually all do, just set your router's IP as nameserver and see.
[22:28] <bastidrazor> jakupl: there is a #ubuntu-server channel that may be able to help.
[22:28] <Reikoku> Hi, can anyone tell me if there's a ppa for fglrx beta?
[22:29] <Kimble> nvm, answered my own question :)
[22:29] <cablop> escott: meaning those symlinks become plain files or copies of the referenced files... right?
[22:29] <escott> cablop, you are probably ok. symlinks are more common in /usr/bin and /etc a few userspace tools but not many
[22:29] <escott> cablop, yes duplicated files
[22:29] <Scott_S> Reikoku: I assume you're trying to install AMD's drivers?
[22:30] <jase_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/UnityWithFglrxBeta
[22:30] <jakupl> te: are you sure? I tried to run the grc DNS-benchmark utility, and I updated my resolv.conf from that, because there was another DNS server that was faster than my routers.
[22:30] <cablop> escott: but if some files are "system" files then... in case of upgrading i get the old ones...
[22:30] <cablop> anyway...
[22:30] <cablop> in case of problem i can recreate the user... i guess
[22:31] <almoxarife> jakupl: resolv.conf gets rewrote by network manager
[22:31] <emanuelsalvato> hola
[22:31] <Kimble> Karma ++ to those who helped me so promptly and courteously. Peace, amigos :)
[22:31] <jakupl> no I'm running arch on my desktop.. I figured all that out, but I have an ubuntu server where I would like to put DNS server onto.
[22:31] <jakupl> almoxarife
[22:32] <emanuelsalvato> hello my name is emanuel an rosario argentina
[22:32] <cablop> hi
[22:32] <escott> cablop, the only other thing i can think that you might need to do is invalidate the ureadahead cache but that should happen automatically
[22:32] <jase_> hola
[22:32] <almoxarife> jakupl: look at the 'dnsmasq' package
[22:32] <Varazir> Do scripts in /etc/rd6.d/ have to look in a certan way ?
[22:32] <Scott_S> Jakupl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto
[22:32] <emanuelsalvato> hola jase
[22:33] <cablop> escott: mmm, ok, :)
[22:33] <emanuelsalvato> alguien habla en español?
[22:33] <escott> !es | emanuelsalvato
[22:34] <cablop> escott: ok, then, i can use gparted to clone some partitions and try to... sigh.... i get scared, xD
[22:34] <almoxarife> !info dnsmasq | jakupl
[22:34] <cablop> escott: afaik, if i open remotely the gparted it is going to access the remote drives machines, not the loval ones, right?
[22:34] <Reikoku> Scott_S: Correct
[22:35] <Reikoku> Scott_S: I want to install AMD's latest unstable drivers, to see if they've fixed the hibernate on 6310s yet
[22:35] <ergj-> im think im having probems with wpa2-personal
[22:36] <glebihan> Varazir, no script should be put directly in /etc/rc6.d, those should only be symlinks to scripts in /etc/init.d. Also those scripts are sysvinit scripts, which is the old init system. Ubuntu now uses upstart instead so you should probably look into that. What are you trying to do exactly ?
[22:36] <jakupl> almoxarife: isn't that meant for the desktop computer, and not the server?
[22:36] <almoxarife> jakupl: I would think it runs on a server just fine, it does not have gui interface, all conf setup
[22:37] <ergj-> i see all the places i can connect to but i cant make a connection
[22:37] <Scott_S> Reikoku: I am unaware of how to install beta drivers, unless there is an installer included with the drivers in the download. I am searching right now though.
[22:37] <Varazir> glebihan: I have a script if the kernel or the initrd.img has changed and upload them to my PXE server, I would like to run that script on shutdown
[22:37] <ergj-> where im trying to connect to uses aes
[22:38] <almoxarife> jakupl: from what you said about faster, you need to know what/who are the fastest dns servers around your physical location if 'speed' is the issue though
[22:38] <Reikoku> Scott_S: I know I can get them from AMD, but obviously then I'd have to remove the drivers from the Ubuntu repository which would be a pain
[22:39] <glebihan> Varazir, then you should definitely look into upstart : upstart.ubuntu.com
[22:39] <Scott_S> Reikoku: You would have to remove them either way. Adding a ppa simply requires you to 'apt-get install' the drivers afterwards, which would be the same thing as downloading and installing them afaik.
[22:39] <Varazir> glebihan: ok thanks
[22:39] <Reikoku> Scott_S: Is it as simple as apt-get remove fglrx?
[22:39] <jakupl> almoxarife: Yes. I have checked that using the DNS benchmark utility from grc.com, but I figured that the fastest option would be, to have a local DNS server.
[22:41] <Scott_S> reikoku: I can't say for sure, but I would believe that if you attempted to install a newer version of the drivers via the installer, it would automatically update the old ones.
[22:41] <almoxarife> jakupl: I have several local dns servers, they are not all fast, the beauty of dnsmasq is that with multiples servers listed it hits them all and the fastests wins, dnsmasq ignores the slow ones :)
[22:41] <DrSlony> What the hell is wrong with Ubuntu iso servers? No only do they cut me off 2-5% into the download, but wget --trust-server-names http://www.ubuntu.com/start-download?distro=desktop&bits=64&release=latest also downloads to ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso which is what the 32 bit one should download to.
[22:42] <Scott_S> DrSlony: It is always highly recommended to use the torrent downloads, as it decreases load on the servers.
[22:42] <Reikoku> Scott_S: Well, I normally use Arch, and there I can just run the installer, but I'm not sure how it will interact with apt if I do that
[22:42] <DrSlony> Scott_S ok but thats not the point.
[22:42] <almoxarife> !info namebench
[22:42] <Reikoku> i.e. if apt still thinks I have the old version, will it 'upgrade' me to the next release even if it's older than the one I install
[22:43] <glebihan> DrSlony, I think you're missing quotes around the URL
[22:43] <almoxarife> !info namebench | jakupl
[22:43] <Scott_S> DrSlony: Load on the servers can cause that issue. To be honest, it's either a problem with your connection, or an overload on their servers. I know I never get over 3Mbps on their direct downloads.
[22:43] <DrSlony> Scott_S no its got nothing to do with my connection
[22:43] <DrSlony> i get almost 6Mbps as I should
[22:43] <Scott_S> DrSlony: http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[22:43] <DrSlony> until it cuts me off
[22:44] <glebihan> DrSlony, without the quotes the URL is but at the first "&" sign, ie  http://www.ubuntu.com/start-download?distro=desktop
[22:44] <DrSlony> ah, good point!
[22:44] <glebihan> s/but/cut
[22:44] <DrSlony> :]
[22:45] <almoxarife> jakupl: with namebench, you will have a list of the fastest and closest dns servers, then with that info you can tweak dnsmasq or your router even
[22:45] <DrSlony> second complaint was my fault
[22:46] <Scott_S> DrSlony: The only thing I can think of is server load. I personally never use direct downloads and so haven't had that issue for a long time.
[22:46] <DrSlony> Scott_S third time lucky
[22:47] <emet> how do I play back PCM audio from the command (eg: where is /dev/dsp)?
[22:47] <emet> command line*
[22:48] <raptor67682> emet: what would you mean?
[22:48] <escott> emet, check in /dev/audio
[22:49] <escott> emet, rather /dev/snd
[22:49] <DrSlony> I need to compile my program to work in all sorts of ubuntu versions, is this possible without installing each version in a vm?
[22:50] <Scott_S> DrSlony: I am unsure of how to create a .deb installer from a compiled source, however let me do a quick search and I'll return findings asap.
[22:52] <Scott_S> DrSlony: Is this what you're looking to do? http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/how-to-create-deb-package-ubuntu-debian.html
[22:52] <raptor67682> Scott_S: that is not so easy
[22:52] <DrSlony> Scott_S very nice of you :] i can google too, but it would be better if an ubuntu user suggests some best-course-of-action, as a non-ubuntu user i wont know if what i find is the optimal way
[22:52] <Scott_S> DrSlony: I personally do use Ubuntu, however I don't have an extremely wide range of knowledge, I just know the basic things and know what to search for. =P
[22:53] <emet> escott: can't get it to work
[22:53] <emet> what happened to /dev/dsp?
[22:53] <raptor67682> emet: you would not want to use Alsa by the way?
[22:53] <sbram80> is it possible to install ubuntu via a Virtual prog, ie VMware player or Virtualbox?
[22:53] <Scott_S> raptor67682: Might not be very easy, but that tutorial seems to have a pretty straight-forward/intermediate way of doing it.
[22:53] <raptor67682> emet: for alsa, you need only hw:1   for 1 the device audio number
[22:53] <escott> sbram80, yes
[22:53] <sbram80> to a physical HDD i mean
[22:53] <Scott_S> sbram80: Do you mean to install it to the VM, or from the VM?
[22:53] <DrSlony> sbram80 what do you mean via?
[22:54] <sbram80> yes via, i am having trouble from the live disc and USB
[22:54] <DrSlony> thanks Scott_S, looks like what i need
[22:54] <Scott_S> sbram80: It's possible to use a physical hard drive in VMWare, which I believe could be used to fully install Ubuntu to the hard drive.
[22:54] <DrSlony> sbram80 vm still needs a live cd/usb
[22:54] <sbram80> can't I use the ISO?
[22:54] <Scott_S> sbram80: However, it's highly not recommended to so. What issue are you having installing from USB/CD?
[22:55] <sbram80> I get the crash (multi coloured screen) when I try to install, soon after the Live CD has started
[22:55] <emet> raptor67682: how do I write() to alsa?
[22:55] <DrSlony> sbram80 can you try again and write down any error messages?
[22:55] <escott> sbram80, thats video card thing. it won't be any better outside the vm
[22:56] <escott> sbram80, what video card do you have
[22:56] <DrSlony> escott actually it probably would work fine in a vm, but installing to a real hdd via vm if even possible sounds dangerous
[22:56] <sbram80> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 got this tutorial from ubottu but I don't understand it
[22:56] <edbian> sbram80, can I get some background info?
[22:56] <escott> DrSlony, it is possible (and there is nothing wrong with using a vm on a raw partition
[22:57] <edbian> sbram80, what are you trying to do?
[22:57] <Varazir> glebihan: something like this http://pastebin.com/Uc7NF16Y
[22:57] <Varazir> ?
[22:57] <edbian> Varazir, talking to me?
[22:57] <sbram80> sure, I'm 31, I didn't go to college, just went straight into work and now I run my own business
[22:58] <glebihan> Varazir, yes looks good
[22:58] <edbian> sbram80, haha
[22:58] <sbram80> lol, jk, get the info now
[22:58] <DrSlony> escott but wont the choice of drivers/modules/whatnot of the installed ubuntu be tailored to the vm's virtual hardware specs instead of his real pc's?
[22:58] <Scott_S> edbian: He is unable to install Ubuntu from CD/USB, it crashes upon bootup, so he wants to install directly to the HDD from a VM.
[22:58] <Varazir> edbian: no to glebihan :)
[22:58] <Varazir> glebihan: Ok
[22:58] <edbian> Varazir, :)
[22:58] <edbian> Scott_S, can that be done?
[22:58] <sbram80> got the ATI Radeon HD 5450
[22:58] <Scott_S> edbian: Yes, it can. VMWare Workstation has the ability to use physical hard drives, and partition them as required.
[22:59] <edbian> sbram80, so are you trying to boot the liveCD or the liveCD on a vm?
[23:00] <daviddoria_> Is there a way to put a system monitor in a panel? All of the ones I see are "widgets" that are giant things that float around the screen
[23:00] <sbram80> I thought I configured VMware correctly to use one of my HDD, but there is no change on the partition I am trying to install to so I don't think it's working
[23:00] <sbram80> I'm using the ISO 11.10
[23:00] <emet> does "beep" work for anyone
[23:01] <raptor67682> emet: it works
[23:01] <raptor67682> you can use a bash script to make it work or apt-get install beep
[23:02] <raptor67682> (and $  beep). you ought to change alsamixer and chck the sound volume of beep
[23:03] <escott> DrSlony, yes, but it is possible to get ubuntu to boot both ways. although I wasn't responding to that part of his question as I got it after my first response. i was responding to the "can i install ubuntu in a vm question"
[23:03] <daviddoria_> I need to be able to see it on top of my programming environment
[23:04] <DrSlony> escott he didnt ask "in a vm", he asked "via vm"
[23:04] <DrSlony> so if ubuntu does any hardware-tailoring, i dont think an installation via vm will work when booted from the real pc
[23:04] <kurtosis> uit
[23:04] <kurtosis> quit
[23:04] <sbram80> yeh, so instead of "installing" to a Virtual Disc it'd be to my actual Physical HDD
[23:05] <DrSlony> i dont think thats in your best interest sbram80 :]
[23:05] <Scott_S> sbram80: I highly suggest just trying and getting the CD/USB installer to work. There are too many issues that could occur by installing it from VM.
[23:05] <meerkats> what does ~/local mean? how do I access it?
[23:05] <DrSlony> rather sort out your graphical glitch.
[23:05] <meerkats> i mean the ~
[23:05] <sbram80> oh :(
[23:05] <Scott_S> meerkats: ~ means the user's home directory.
[23:05] <zenrox> meerkats, ~ = /home/yourusername/
[23:05] <Scott_S> meerkats: ~ generally revers to /home/USER/
[23:06] <sbram80> it's just the tutorial I was sent isn't clear to my tiny mind
[23:06] <escott> DrSlony, and he clarified that later
[23:06] <jase_> sbram80: you could try the minimal install iso see if that works, least it'd give you a command line to install the ubuntu-desktop from
[23:06] <martian> Today I decided to apply some updates to my 11.10 server including a mysql-server5.5 update. The update seems to be stalling. I've tried applying it a few times, and now mysql won't start. What can I do?
[23:06] <sbram80> what's that jase?
[23:06] <Scott_S> sbram80: You can install Ubuntu's ISO to a USB by downloading Univeral USB Installer, then selecting the ISO and the USB drive: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[23:07] <DrSlony> sbram80 i glanced at the link you pasted, and it seems relevant.
[23:07] <ToonTownStone> Hullo. Im trying to install Ubuntu 11.10 on diffrent computers that already ran ubuntu without any issues. But now i keep hetting an I/O error while install. What am I doing wrong?? Plz help meh.
[23:07] <sbram80> It does the same via USB though
[23:07] <DrSlony> so just edit the grub line or whatever ubuntu uses to use the safest vga option
[23:07] <Scott_S> ToonTownStone: If you are using a CD, the CD may not have burned correctly.
[23:07] <ergj-> i need helping getting my wireless working with wpa2-personal aeu
[23:07] <bastidrazor> ToonTownStone: I/O error sound like a disc issue. not a computer one
[23:07] <ergj-> im seeing all the possible placing to connect to fine
[23:07] <helo> is it possible for me to install ubuntu on another partition from within ubuntu on one partition?
[23:08] <ergj-> just not making a connection
[23:08] <ToonTownStone> i burned it 6 times on 4 diffrent DVD and CD types at 4x with image burn nothing helps...
[23:08] <ToonTownStone> and i re-downloaded the iso twice.
[23:08] <escott> helo, you could see if there is an ubuntu-bootstrap, alternately you could try some kind of debian-bootstrap and switch over (which would not be supported)
[23:09] <Scott_S> ToonTownStone: I Suggest trying to install from USB, if it is available to you.
[23:09] <ToonTownStone> i tried that; kernel panic.
[23:09] <bastidrazor> ToonTownStone: md5 sum the disc after burning
[23:09] <helo> escott: is it better supported to install from within windows?
[23:09] <ToonTownStone> my BIOS cant boot from USB thought. I did that too.
[23:10] <bastidrazor> ToonTownStone: burn at the slowest speed. but md5'ing the disc after burning is crucial
[23:10] <escott> helo, if there is not a bootstrap system the supported install method is a usb stick or bootable cd
[23:10] <ToonTownStone> Someone poste on a forum having same issue that it works with the alternate cd but whats the diffrence? i burned it at 4x
[23:11] <escott> helo, it looks like there is a package though its called bootstrap-base
[23:11] <bastidrazor> ToonTownStone: did you md5 sum the disc regardless of burn speed?
[23:11] <ToonTownStone> yeh...
[23:11] <helo> i'm familiar with setting up debian chroots via debootstrap, i'll try that route, thanks
[23:11] <no-name-> how do I change the default program to open a file with nautilus?
[23:12] <ToonTownStone> I had ubuntu running before but that disc i used the first time doesnt work anymore either
[23:12] <cablop> escott but.... the problem is... how can i copy the root partition from an external filesystem?
[23:13] <ToonTownStone> People say its either a RAM issue or.. use alternate image...
[23:13] <zivester> does anyone know how to allow my laptop screen brightness to be allowed to go to full power, even when unplugged... the max brightness when unplugged and plugged in is different... thinkpad, using the fn+ keys
[23:13] <raptor67682> ToonTownStone: kernel panic is always difficult thing.. takes time to solve
[23:14] <escott> cablop, i dont understand the question
[23:14] <ergj-> zivester , what gui are you using?
[23:14] <cablop> escott i want to copy the / partition to the new disk, should i do that from another linux, e.g. a live CD?
[23:14] <ergj-> kde gnome etc?
[23:14] <raptor67682> helo: I think that it is not however maybe with virtualbox?
[23:14] <ToonTownStone> raptor67682, i get kernel panic only when trying to install over USB drive. what about the alternate disc?
[23:15] <escott> cablop, the partition you are copying should not be mounted rw at the time you are copying it.
[23:15] <civilorange> doodle with people 1 on 1 with people across the internet! www.PaintAcquaint.com kinda like omegle or chatroulette
[23:15] <zivester> ergj- xfce
[23:15] <ergj-> oh crap
[23:16] <ergj-> i dont know if it has any power management
[23:16] <MrStein> How can the squashfs image be recompressed to XZ/LZMA?  unsquashfs/mksquashfs ?
[23:16] <escott> cablop, a livecd would work to keep it ro, or you could boot to single user mode and keep it mounted ro
[23:16] <jase_> Yeah it does, mine's working
[23:16] <ToonTownStone> Whats the ubuntu alternate disc ._.?
[23:16] <zivester> the brightness adjusts fine.. im just talking about max brightness when plugged in vs. on battery.. when plugged in, its so much brighter at max
[23:16] <ergj-> yes it does
[23:17] <ergj-> know where setting manager is?
[23:17] <jakupl> ToonTownStone: it lacs the gui installer and you can't test ubuntu on it.
[23:17] <daviddoria_> In KDE, all of my virtual desktop seem to be the same - that is, if i have a program open in one of them, I see it in all of them. How do I make them separate?
[23:17] <jakupl> ToonTownStone: but it's faster
[23:17] <ergj-> zivester , know where setting manager is?
[23:18] <jase_> zivester: have you got xfce-power-manager installed
[23:18] <zivester> ya, its not in there.. tried it all
[23:18] <tanath> is it just me or does gedit have no means of telling what file is open? i have to identically named files open and i need the full path to each so i can tell what's where.
[23:18] <tanath> *two
[23:18] <tanath> i opened them from recent history, so i have no idea which is which
[23:19] <jase_> maybe it's a bios setting?
[23:19] <ergj-> xfce may not be laptop friendly
[23:19] <zivester> maybe i need to reboot for it to take effect, be right back
[23:19] <tanath> and lsof doesn't show gedit having them open
[23:19] <sbram80> ok, putting it on a USB stick now, so do I just press button, then hit F6 the choose NOMODESET or is it more complicated than that?
[23:19] <ToonTownStone> jakupl, could it solve the I/O error? and after the installation is everything the same as when i install it over the live cd?
[23:20] <jakupl> ToonTownStone: not sure, and yes
[23:20] <jakupl> ToonTownStone: Are you sure that the ubuntu download is not corrupted?
[23:20] <jakupl> ToonTownStone: have you checked the md5
[23:21] <gmcdonald> cant remember who helped me in here, but thanks, SSDs in a RAID 1 configured as 60Gb swap and 40GB /tmp and it flies
[23:21] <bindi> sounds like a huge waste of ssd
[23:21] <bergmann> hi there!
[23:21] <jakupl> how do I use ubottu?
[23:22] <gmcdonald> bindi: why do you say that?
[23:22] <bastidrazor> ubottu: tell jakupl about factoids
[23:22] <sbram80> rub the lamp
[23:22] <ToonTownStone> jakupl, Yes. and i diwnloaded it multiple times on diffrent computers...
[23:22] <bergmann> i have a strange problem with my hp 710 C printer: since the upgrade to 11.10 it doesn't work anymore...
[23:22] <bastidrazor> jack^_: read your pm from ubottu and you'll be an expert
[23:22] <bergmann> neither hp-setup nor even lsusb(!) find it!
[23:22] <sbram80> ok, putting it on a USB stick now, so do I just press button, then hit F6 the choose NOMODESET or is it more complicated than that?
[23:22] <ToonTownStone> Then i diwnloaded 10.04 and 9.10 and all the three versions give meh the I/O error.
[23:23] <jase_> sbram80, looks to be all you need to do
[23:23] <jakupl> ToonTownStone: and you altso checked cd integrity?
[23:23] <ToonTownStone> downloaded* sorreh
[23:23] <bergmann> lsusb just gives me Bus 005 Device 002: ID 067b:2305 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2305 Parallel Port
[23:23] <jakupl> ToonTownStone: just making sure
[23:23] <cablop> ok escott thanks
[23:23] <sbram80> k, thx, see ya on the other side
[23:23] <jase_> good luck
[23:23] <tanath> does gedit have no means of telling what file is open? i have two identically named files open and i need the full path to each so i can tell what's where. i opened them from recent history, so i have no idea which is which.
[23:23] <bergmann> does anybody have an idea how i can fix my printer?
[23:23] <zivester> found it... was in my Bios, had to change Display Brightness from "Normal" to "High" which allows it to remain at the max setting when unplugged... probably going to kill my battery
[23:23] <sbram80> haha, next time we speak could be from Linux
[23:23] <ergj-> im having problems making a wrieless connection with a linksys usb adpator using ndiswrapper i installed my xp drivers correctly cause i can see all the possible places i can connect to i think its a probably with the wpa2-personal aeu
[23:23] <jakupl> bastidrazor: thanks.. I always forget.
[23:23] <tanath> bergmann, try reinstalling the drivers?
[23:23] <ergj-> anyone???
[23:24] <ToonTownStone> jakupl, i used this finction at startup to check the disc for errors after checking md5 and it said my disc is100% ok.
[23:24] <bergmann> wia synaptic?
[23:24] <bergmann> *via
[23:24] <ToonTownStone> function*
[23:24] <ergj-> i have the wpa package install also
[23:24] <ergj-> installed*
[23:24] <bergmann> the printer just worked with 11.04 :-), i had to install no driver :-)
[23:24] <tanath> hm
[23:24] <jakupl> ToonTownStone: ok. What error are you getting, exactly?
[23:24] <ToonTownStone> it says:
[23:24] <bergmann> there are some hp-tools installed though
[23:25] <bergmann> but they just give me error:  No devices found.
[23:25] <tanath> derp. solved my prob. too many windows open. path on taskbar
[23:26] <ergj-> ill ask another time
[23:26] <jase_> bergmann: is it a USB printer? if so try lsusb on the command line to see if it's been detected
[23:26] <tanath> bergmann, nothing else changed? you sure it's on and plugged in?
[23:26] <mikeg3> Hi..I am running Ubuntu 11.10 in a Parallels 7 VM with Mac Lion 10.7 as host.  I can't seem to get ubuntu to update from Terminal.  Is the command "sudo aptitude install update"?  And do I need to be root?
[23:26] <bergmann> yes, it is a usb printer
[23:26] <ToonTownStone> jakupl, [Errno 5] Input/Output error. This particular error is often due to a faulty CD/DVD disk or drive, or a faulty hard disk.
[23:27] <Gentoo64> mikeg3: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[23:27] <bergmann> when i enter lsusb and plug the printer in/out this line changes:
[23:27] <bergmann> Bus 005 Device 002: ID 067b:2305 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2305 Parallel Port
[23:27] <sbram80> On a quick side note, if I uninstalled my Graphics Card from the Device manager, restarted PC and installed Ubuntu, would that work perhaps, because the card prob wouldn't install til Windows restarted, or would it?
[23:27] <ToonTownStone> jakupl,  It may help to clean the CD/DVD, to burn the CD/DVD at a lower speed, to clean the CD/DVD drive lens (cleaning kits are often available from electronics suppliers)
[23:27] <Gentoo64> mikeg3: yes you need sudo or root
[23:27] <ToonTownStone> jakupl,  to check whether the hard disk is old and in need of replacement, or to move the system to a cooler environment.
[23:27] <bergmann> tried it on another device (also ubuntu 11.10), reproducable
[23:27] <ToonTownStone> jakupl, that's all.
[23:28] <jase_> sbram80: nope, just coz windows doesn't know about the card doesn't effect linux
[23:28] <bastidrazor> mikeg3: sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:28] <jase_> bergmann: looks like it's being detected but not as a HP Printer
[23:28] <bergmann> yes...
[23:28] <bergmann> ubuntu printer setup finds a parallel port printer
[23:28] <cablop> escott... i am reading that i can move the volume to other disk while running the system o.O
[23:28] <sbram80> i guess, so short of removing the card to install i'm just gonna have to plod along
[23:29] <bergmann> but the printing itself doesnt work
[23:29] <jakupl> ToonTownStone: Yes. That is pretty nasty. I would not think that the alternate cd would help, but I might be mistaken.
[23:29] <cablop> escott: because it is an lvm thing, nice! xD
[23:29] <jakupl> ToonTownStone: when are you getting the error?
[23:29] <sbram80> bcos it installed with my old nvidia
[23:29] <nux_> hey can someone help me with the trouble i'm having with my pulseaudio server?
[23:30] <jase_> can try nux_
[23:30] <jakupl> ToonTownStone: is it just in the middle of the install process?
[23:30] <ToonTownStone> jakupl, I'm going to try the Alternate DVD tomorrow. I can't access my PC right now but the Alternate DVD is the only thing i did not try yet. I tried to replace SATA cables, disk drive + optical drives. and like just before the process bar gets in the middle...
[23:30] <jakupl> ToonTownStone: how about ram?
[23:31] <OODavo> Under Ubuntu 11.10, I have a Compose key mapped (to Caps Lock) using the GNOME keyboard preferences; I also have ibus enabled, for Japanese input. The Compose key only appears to work in GTK-based applications, having no effect in other apps. This appears to be caused by ibus, since running with XMODIFIERS="" repairs the Compose key, while of course disabling Japanese input.
[23:31] <jakupl> ToonTownStone: how many ram cards do you have inserted?
[23:31] <ToonTownStone> tried that too.
[23:31] <ToonTownStone> 2
[23:31] <ToonTownStone> jakupl, 2 1GB DDR3
[23:31] <usagiakumu> roflmao http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=popularity fucking proof everyone hates the piece of vile shit and vomit that is Unity, maybe you devs will listen PEOPLE FUCKING HATE UNITY trash this piece of shit
[23:31] <jakupl> ToonTownStone: nice
[23:31] <OODavo> What's the correct way to configure Compose and ibus to work simultaneously?
[23:31] <nux_> jase_: thanks well ubuntu 11.10 doesn't have the padevchooser anymore, wich worked perfectly. so i have to use pavucontrol, which plays sound but lets flash videos freeze. it only works, if i reboot the audio server.. any suggestions?
[23:32] <jakupl> ToonTownStone: have you tried an usb install?
[23:32] <Zeranoe> Hey. I downloaded the 32-bit firefox, which reports it at i686, yet file shows it as i368, is file wrong or is mozilla?
[23:32] <ToonTownStone> jakupl, I tried to put 1 out, change skots, try the other one and replace both but that didnt help.
[23:32] <godofmischief> anyone here have any experience with compiz fusion on a ubuntu virtal box?
[23:32] <ToonTownStone> jakupl, USB install crashes with kernel panic.
[23:32] <Gentoo64> Zeranoe: theyre both 32 bit
[23:32] <jakupl> ToonTownStone: srsly?
[23:33] <ToonTownStone> jakupl, Yep.
[23:33] <Zeranoe> Gentoo64: Yes, but they are different, I'm wondering which I should name it as.
[23:33] <Gentoo64> Zeranoe: what do you mean name it?
[23:33] <piotr_> godofmischief: tried it out once, yeah
[23:33] <jakupl> ToonTownStone: You are able to boot into the live environment right?
[23:34] <ToonTownStone> I created te USB stick with this ultimate usb creator from www.pendrivelinux.com... tried 3 diffrent sticks
[23:34] <Gentoo64> Zeranoe: where are you reading the info from? Afaik ubuntu is i386 but it would be i686 now idk
[23:34] <godofmischief> piotr_, i can't really get any of the animations to work, im assuming its because i can't enable 2D graphics acceleration
[23:34] <Gentoo64> could be*
[23:34] <ToonTownStone> jakupl, it boots and i can enter the live environnement but installation fails.
[23:34] <jase_> nux: flash freezes? are you changing sinks or is flash just freezing regardless
[23:34] <godofmischief> piotr_, i have the settings manager, i can configure it, but they don't seem to be working.
[23:34] <Zeranoe> Gentoo64: file reports: Intel 80386
[23:34] <piotr_> godofmischief: do you have the newest vb-version?
[23:35] <Gentoo64> Zeranoe: what are you actually concerned about?
[23:35] <godofmischief> piotr_, if that's not part of the updated files with the package then possibly not.
[23:35] <jakupl> ToonTownStone: what computer are you using?
[23:35] <Zeranoe> Gentoo64: I'm just wondering if I can trust file
[23:35] <jakupl> ToonTownStone: homebuilt?
[23:36] <Lasers> Zeranoe: How are you downloading Firefox? You shouldn't do it directly off the the website. That's Windows's way.
[23:36] <Gentoo64> Zeranoe: im confused lol, did you install it from ubuntu repo? yeah id trust it
[23:36] <nux_> jase_: no. if i connect to my server, start up FF or chrome and lets say play some random thing on youtube it just plays the vid for a second, and then it freezes while sound keeps playing.
[23:36] <godofmischief> piotr_, virtual box is updated yes. and so is my linux client running within.
[23:36] <piotr_> godofmischief: perhaps you can see them, if you make them very slow
[23:36] <nux_> jase_: it will only play the vid, if i reboot the audio server and reconnect to it
[23:36] <godofmischief> piotr_, i suppose never really thought of that, the host machine is a quad core.
[23:36] <ToonTownStone> Medion Akoya MD8800, 2GB RAM DDR3, 1TB Samsung HDD, the computer is 4 years old with Windows 7 currently installed.
[23:37] <Gentoo64> Zeranoe: use ubuntus repos, or firefox ppa for later versions
[23:37] <Zeranoe> Gentoo64: I did not, I downloaded it from the main site. So you believe file to be correct?
[23:37] <OODavo> This hadn't previously been an issue as I was using gnome-terminal, which, being GTK, had both Compose and ibus working correctly. In both urxvt and xterm, however, Compose is failing.
[23:37] <bergmann> uhm...anybody who can help me with this printer-problem? i just upgraded to ubuntu 11.10 and Ubuntu doesn't find my hp-printer (USB) anymore
[23:37] <Gentoo64> Zeranoe: yes, but theres easier ways to install it
[23:37] <mikeg3> !update
[23:37] <ToonTownStone> jakupl, then i tried it on an IBM ThinkPad with 1GB RAM and 120GB HDD. same error at same place
[23:37] <jase_> nux: are you streaming the audio from your machine to a pulseaudio server or is this all local/on a single machine
[23:38] <Zeranoe> Gentoo64: Yes, I know haha... I'm actually on debian and it doesn't support firefox. Thank you for the help.
[23:38] <Gentoo64> Zeranoe: i686 is the norm for 32 bit btw, almost nothing is i386 only now
[23:38] <Gentoo64> very old pentium 1s i think
[23:38] <ToonTownStone> jakupl, then an Acer Aspire One A150 1GB Ram and 150GB hdd
[23:38] <piotr_> godofmischief: i think the 3d-acceleration just isnt good enough to render the animations with a sufficient framerate
[23:38] <jakupl> ToonTownStone: Same thing happened on acer?????!!!
[23:38] <nux_> jase_: netbook (ubuntu 11.10) source -> netbook (Linux mint 11 LXDE) as output both connected via LAN
[23:38] <Zeranoe> Gentoo64: Oh really? So file reporting Intel 80386 can mean it's still i686?
[23:39] <godofmischief> piotr_, that was what i was wondering myself, i can enable 3d acceleration in the virtual box manager, but not 2d.
[23:39] <ToonTownStone> jakupl, all computers abort the installation at the same place.
[23:39] <piotr_> godofmischief: so it might be that the animations completely happen during a lag :)
[23:39] <Gentoo64> Zeranoe: i find it hard to believe debian dont support firefox. no i386 mean its i386
[23:39] <Gentoo64> Zeranoe: it still works, just very slightly less oprimizes
[23:39] <Gentoo64> d
[23:39] <jakupl> ToonTownStone: no way! That's a faulty cd or disc burner.
[23:39] <ToonTownStone> jakupl, On all my discs all versions even the disc that used to work.
[23:39] <jase_> ok so you're using the pulseaudio streaming module? Assume it works ok if you don't stream the audio, ie if you keep the audio local
[23:39] <piotr_> godofmischief: yep, thats windows only
[23:39] <Gazler> What is the best way to ditch Unity on 11.10 and replace it with gnome2?  Install server edition and then X on top of it, or install the desktop edition and then gnome?
[23:39] <helo> attempting a full install via deboostrap, wish me luck
[23:40] <nux_> jase_: yes it does
[23:40] <Zeranoe> Gentoo64: you wont find it in the repos. It does "support" it, but the comunity does not.
[23:40] <piotr_> godofmischief: but i think it won't affect compiz anyway
[23:40] <Gentoo64> Gazler: trying to stick with gnome 2 is more trouble than its worth
[23:40] <Gazler> Or should I just go for Debian/Mint?
[23:40] <jakupl> ToonTownStone: ok. that sounds pretty incredible. Other people are not experiencing that.
[23:40] <godofmischief> piotr_, idk if it can be happening in the lag as you say, very very responsive.
[23:40] <Pici> Gazler: gnome2 does not exist in 11.10 in any form. The GNOME foundation has deprecated it.
[23:40] <ToonTownStone> jakupl,You think i should try to birn it on a diffrent PC?
[23:40] <Gentoo64> Gazler: debian stable im guessing will have it for  awhile lol
[23:40] <Zeranoe> Gentoo64: I wonder why they would make it i386 then
[23:40] <ToonTownStone> burn*
[23:40] <Lasers> Gazler: Use Debian Stable or Ubuntu LTS 10.04.3.
[23:40] <Gentoo64> Zeranoe: so its compatable with all cpus
[23:41] <jase_> yeah, I've had issues doing this with mine, not tried with flash...turned out my wifi card wasn't so good and it kept blocking while it scanned for wifi networks
[23:41] <jakupl> ToonTownStone: yes
[23:41] <ToonTownStone> I have 3 pcs with a dvd burner i could try it on all computers.
[23:41] <Gazler> I guess it is time I gave gnome3 a go.  It wasn't great last time I used it.
[23:41] <Gentoo64> Gazler: just use something else
[23:41] <ToonTownStone> jakupl, what is better using a DVD or a CD-R?
[23:41] <jakupl> ToonTownStone: That's a good idea. It's altso a good idea to burn it on low speed.
[23:41] <godofmischief> piotr_, bummer, there were some very nice animations, i'd love to be able to get to work
[23:41] <Gentoo64> Gazler: at least itll be maintained and hopefully stay the same
[23:42] <jakupl> ToonTownStone: cd. because it's cheaper ;)
[23:42] <cliolabs> hi to all!
[23:42] <jakupl> ToonTownStone: really I don't know.
[23:42] <ToonTownStone> The lowest supported was 4x, which i used. and i only have DVDs left LOL
[23:42] <Gentoo64> ToonTownStone: it wont make a difference if you use a dvd or cd
[23:42] <Gentoo64> in terms of it working
[23:43] <nux_> jase_: it's just so inconvenient. startup pc -> ssh to server -> restart it -> connect -> watch stuff ..and it works perfectly with the padevchooser :(
[23:43] <Gazler> Gentoo64, good point.  I've been using Ubuntu for 5 years or so, so Debian might be a good option.
[23:43] <ToonTownStone> I might find some CDs somewhere... Thanks for your help! See ya guys.
[23:43] <piotr_> godofmischief: mh, sorry lags are the only things i can come up with :). sadly, i dont have a compiz-vm at hand right now
[23:43] <Gentoo64> Gazler: well you dont have to change distros, ubuntu has other desktop environments
[23:43] <Gentoo64> Gazler: as versions
[23:43] <Zeranoe> Gentoo64: Interesting... so is firefox i386 or i686?
[23:44] <Lasers> Zeranoe: They're same thing.
[23:44] <Gentoo64> Zeranoe: depends how it was compiled...
[23:44] <jase_> nux_: just tried it on mine and it's doing the same as yours :-(
[23:44] <Gazler> Gentoo64, that's true.  Not a huge fan of xfce or KDE though...or Fluxbox, etc.
[23:44] <jakupl> ToonTownStone: no prob. If it continues, try the alternate version.
[23:44] <piotr_> godofmischief: oh wait, compiz can be installed in xubuntu too. hang on a sec...
[23:44] <Gentoo64> i386 will work on any 32 bit cpu
[23:44] <sbram80> Noooo, that was not successful
[23:44] <Zeranoe> Lasers: ?
[23:44] <Gentoo64> i686 will work on 99.999% of them
[23:44] <godofmischief> piotr_, are you running a xubuntu vm? or is that your host machine?
[23:44] <piotr_> its the vm
[23:45] <nux_> jase_: that sucks :-( does it work if you restart the server aswell?
[23:45] <piotr_> godofmischief: host is a dual core archlinux machine with the proprietary version of vbox
[23:45] <godofmischief> piotr_, cool deal then.
[23:45] <sbram80> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset acpi_osi=\"Linux\""        what about this line, should I have input this somewhere?
[23:45] <Gentoo64> Zeranoe: if you download firefox from official site and it says i686, then that version is i686. ubuntu may compile it as i386 idk
[23:46] <Gentoo64> maybe ubuntu dropped i386 support, again idk
[23:46] <Gazler> Can you run GNOME3 without GNOME Shell?
[23:46] <Gentoo64> Gazler: yes
[23:46] <Lasers> Gazler: Sure. That's Unity.
[23:46] <Zeranoe> Gentoo64: I did download it from the main site, and it does say i686, yet file say i368. go figure
[23:46] <Gentoo64> in fallback mode
[23:47] <Gazler> Lasers, not quite.
[23:47] <Gentoo64> Zeranoe: i would stop worrying.
[23:47] <Gentoo64> just install it
[23:47] <Gentoo64> its from the main site
[23:47] <Zeranoe> Gentoo64: I'm not worried, just confused.
[23:47] <Gentoo64> Zeranoe: where are you reading i386 from?
[23:48] <Gentoo64> Zeranoe: maybe firefox site advertise it as i686 when its actually compiled for i386 idk
[23:48] <Zeranoe> Gentoo64: ./firefox: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, stripped
[23:49] <cablop> :)
[23:49] <solringel> hi i am new to linux is there anyone who can help me with errors i am getting trying to do sudo apt-get update?
[23:49] <Gentoo64> Zeranoe: afaik in firefox type about:buildconfig shoudl tell you
[23:50] <Gentoo64> Zeranoe: btw, this isnt even an ubuntu question lol
[23:50] <Gentoo64> as your on debian
[23:51] <solringel> can anyone help me i am new to linux
[23:51] <Gentoo64> solringel: ok
[23:51] <Lasers> solringel: We're waiting fot your errors.
[23:51] <Lasers> for*
[23:51] <AzoteLogiko> just ask, solringel
[23:51] <Zeranoe> Gentoo64: Target says i686-pc-linux-gnu, interesting, and true, I apoligize, it's just confusing and Ubuntu brings together a decent linux comunity
[23:51] <offie> anybody know how to get to system>preferences>session aplication in 10.10?
[23:51] <jase_> nux_:tried it again, restarted the browser and it's worked this time, bit 'buffering' to start with but it settled down ok
[23:51] <Gentoo64> Zeranoe: its ok. theyre quite strict on the rules here thats all
[23:52] <nux_> jase_: so you just restarted the browser and it worked? without the reboot?
[23:52] <piotr_> godofmischief: ok, that takes some time. ill be back in at most 10 min
[23:52] <nux_> jase_: that doesn't work for me though :(
[23:52] <solringel> here is the error
[23:52] <solringel> pc@LG-Laptop:~$ sudo apt-get update
[23:52] <solringel> E: Type 'ain' is not known on line 3 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/webupd8team-gnome3-precise.list
[23:52] <solringel> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[23:52] <jase_> nux_: yeah, that worked for me...all I can think is to have a look for logging or debug in pulseaudio.  I'm using chromium if that helps
[23:53] <spotter> has anyone had issues where ubuntu 11.10 will refuse to boot if there's a degraded raid5 array?
[23:53] <spotter> i.e. gets stuck in initrd with an error message
[23:53] <Gentoo64> solringel: maybe its an error with the ppa
[23:53] <helo> i have
[23:53] <spotter> doesn't make sense why it would do this if the raid5 is not the boot device
[23:54] <solringel> how to i remove the repository ?
[23:54] <helo> spotter: i had it flagging one of my arrays as degraded, but when i used the debugging console it appeared to be fine
[23:54] <nux_> jase_: i do too.. but.. i mean did you connect other devices, befor retrying the flash thing?
[23:54] <Gentoo64> solringel: im not sure
[23:54] <godofmischief> piotr_, np i'll be here.
[23:54] <Gentoo64> solringel: i think theres a gui way
[23:54] <Gentoo64> solringel: in update manager
[23:55] <spotter> helo, here one of my disks went dead
[23:55] <spotter> just clicking
[23:55] <spotter> but I couldn't diagnose issue
[23:55] <Gentoo64> spotter: its dead
[23:55] <Gentoo64> quite hard to diagnose :)
[23:55] <jase_> nux_: yep, got a little zotac pc sat next to the TV, just used the pavucontrol to swap from local to the remote sink once the flash was playing
[23:55] <solringel> ii cant open update manager it shows an error than closes
[23:55] <solringel> the same error from terminal\
[23:56] <jase_> nux_: then restarted the browser, pa remembered chromium was streaming to the remote and that seemed to behave
[23:56] <Gentoo64> solringel: someone else will know what file to edit to remove a ppa
[23:56] <spotter> Gentoo64, I meant hwy the system wasn't booting
[23:56] <spotter> system is headless
[23:56] <Gentoo64> spotter: i dont get it
[23:56] <solringel> does anyone here know how to remove a ppa
[23:56] <Gentoo64> the drives dead, and you wonder why it dont boot?
[23:56] <nux_> jase_: hmm.. ok..
[23:56] <Gentoo64> :s
[23:57] <jase_> delete from /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[23:57] <offie> soo... where do i find "system" in 10.10? to go to preferences and such
[23:57] <nux_> jase_: sadly that doesn't work for me
[23:57] <solringel> jase_  the whole file?
[23:57] <Gentoo64> solringel: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/webupd8team-gnome3-precise.list
[23:57] <jase_> nux_:sorry can't be of much more help unless there's anything in the log file.
[23:57] <Gentoo64> solringel: i take it
[23:57] <spotter> Gentoo64, not a boot device
[23:57] <spotter> its a data raid array
[23:57] <jase_> solringel: just the webupd8 one
[23:57] <spotter> not even mounted automatically in fstab
[23:57] <nux_> jase_: im happy to be able to talk to someone with the same problem to begin with :)
[23:57] <Gentoo64> spotter: was there a power surge or anything?
[23:58] <spotter> yes
[23:58] <spotter> but system boots fine with raid removed
[23:58] <spotter> i.e. boot into console
[23:58] <spotter> chroot into boot device
[23:58] <Gentoo64> maybe your other drives got damaged :s
[23:58] <spotter> dpkg --purge mdadm
[23:58] <FloodBot1> spotter: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:58] <spotter> reboot
[23:58] <spotter> system works fine
[23:58] <solringel> thanks gentoo64 that worked now i can do update thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:58] <Gentoo64> spotter: hmm i really cant help with that one i doubt
[23:59] <nux_> jase_: but there has to be a comfortable way to do all this without restarts.. hmmmm (btw: im totally jealous of your zotac)
[23:59] <spotter> it seems to be an issue with mdadm
[23:59] <catalin> hi all
[23:59] <catalin> please can anyone can help me ?
[23:59] <Gentoo64> spotter: since a power surge... seems weird
[23:59] <spotter> known issue
[23:59] <spotter> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mdadm/+bug/872220
[23:59] <p3rsist> Hi guys. How do I check what is the install directory for a specific debian package?
[23:59] <jase_> nux_: you'd hope so wouldn't you..have you tried running pa with the logging turned up?
[23:59] <spotter> hmm
[23:59] <spotter> I see fix