[02:00] hi [02:00] i have some problem with XFCE [02:00] every time i reboot my machine, the xfce preferred applications are undefined [02:01] are there defined in some file? [02:01] because XFCE is not grabbing the preferred apps that i set up [02:01] can't see the menus on xchat (to join a channel, for instance) [02:04] anyone can help me? [02:16] asterismo: have you tried saving the session? [02:16] no [02:17] but i do not want to. i prefer to start a new session every time. it loads quicker [02:17] but i think that setup sould be permanent [02:17] but it is loading the first session then afaik which didn't have things set [02:18] the t hing is that when i click on choose application, i do not have any available [02:18] i have to write the command [02:18] I had default values here but I haven't updated since the upgrade [02:25] do you know in which file its defined? [02:25] the thing is this [02:26] when i click in a downloaded file and right click in > open folder [02:26] it prompts a window saying there is no default file manager [02:26] and there is a app list but it contains no apps, only the "other" entry for writing custom commands [02:27] there used to be firefox, midori for webbrowsers [02:27] for email it said evolution, thunderbird [02:42] asterismo: you could have a look throught the xfconf editor [02:43] i think i dont have that app installed [02:43] cannot apt-get that [02:49] asterismo: have you had this problem since clean xubuntu/xfce install? [02:53] no [02:53] i installed xfce package in ubuntu and unistalled unity and gnome-shell [02:54] but i'm trying to install xubuntu-default-settings [02:58] * ball just failed to install Xubuntu 11.10 :-( [03:00] asterismo: have you read 'exo-preferred-applications.html' which discusses the mechanism? [03:00] well, I couldn't decide between xubuntu and kubuntu for my netbook, so I installed xubuntu and now I'm installing kubuntu-desktop [03:01] nooo [03:01] kubuntu is 10 times heavier than xubuntu [03:01] not with the low-fat option [03:01] Do they both use the same version of X.org? [03:01] plus, now I have a choice [03:02] no clue....my desktop runs both just fine [03:03] asterismo, if I really wanted lightweight I'd be using arch with scrotwm [03:03] :P [03:03] My guess is that Xubuntu's X.org hates the graphics chip. [03:04] my graphics chip? [03:04] hmm [03:05] CaptainKnots> scrotwm? [03:05] never heard of it [03:05] and never used arch [03:05] it's a tiling window manager [03:10] it does support for, say, a minimal panel [03:10] wifi applet [03:10] and stuff? [03:15] you don't need a wifi applet [03:15] you have terminal for that [03:25] instalando xubuntu en mi netbook [03:25] xD [03:28] No, my graphics chip. === xGrind is now known as xGrind-filme [06:37] Any list of themes that support GtK2 and GTK3 apps like "greybird" does? [06:57] gtk3-section in gnome-look.org, under "themes" [07:11] Sysi, Hi! Advise please; does either of GTK2 or GTK3 support both? [07:13] no, but most gtk3-themes should have gtk2 part [07:13] because even gnome isn't completely gtk3 [07:14] Sysi, OK; Thanks, then to just try the GTK3 themes and see how the apps and icons look then... [07:21] Sysi, From Arch tutorials on how to use a GTK2 theme that doesn't have GTK3 support: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1866392&page=4 [07:29] that works too [07:40] Thanks! [09:01] Hi. I can't see the menus in the Xchat application (so I can't join a new channel, etc). It's a recent problem (it used to work). Any help? [09:02] zacarias: have you tried starting it from a terminal to catch any errors? [09:02] have you installed a new gtk theme lately? [09:06] No, I'm going to do that. I installed a theme, but I'm using the same theme than before. I installed "xfapplet" and used th "applet indicator apmenu) from gnome. That made the menus go to the top panel instead of the window border. But I removed the applet (and the xfapplet) because with Xchat the menus didn't show up on the panel. I'm going to try to open it from terminal. [09:08] well_laid_lawn: yes, it gives me some theme errors. Gonna try another theme to see what happens. [09:08] luck [09:17] Problems with my laptop (hp compaq nc6000) after last update. Display a total mess. Need a external display to use it ... [09:17] well_laid_lawn: nothing changes. I've came back to the original (bluebird) theme, and it keeps the same. But now I don't have any error messages on terminal. I'm going to try to restart. [09:28] The menus (the menu bar) on Xchat and Thunar don't show up. I came back to my original (bluebird) theme, but nothing happens. Any help? [09:51] zacarias: they were my guesses as to what could be up === ubuntu is now known as arpad2 [10:39] not mounting xubuntu partition; error mounting: wrong fs type, bad option , bad superblock on /dev/sda5 [10:41] what are you truing to do and how and on what system? [10:42] I tried to switch on my pc [10:42] and it failed to start [10:43] so I took a live cd and installed another xubuntu alongside the old one [10:44] however the partition with the old xubuntu failed to mount and gave the above written error message [10:44] in addition after the new install the grub didnt find the new distro [10:45] so basically ‎only live cd works [10:45] disc check from live cd didnt gave error messages [10:46] you didn't install grub when installing new xubuntu? It should be installed to MBR by default [10:47] you first should probably try reinstalling grub [10:47] !grub2 [10:47] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [10:47] I only did what I was instructed from the live cd [10:48] and I chose to install the new distro along side the old one [11:18] !grub2 [11:18] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [11:31] hi [11:31] video and sount plays frame by frame in xubuntu why ? [11:32] no matter which player i try [11:34] anyone here ? [12:32] I installed the nvidia driver and now all compositing effects are disabled [13:05] ò.o [13:08] i want to blacklist nouveau cause i use nvidia. The best way to do that is to add a nouveau.modeset=0 kernel option at grub or use my_blacklist file? [13:10] both [13:24] how can i disable nvidia splash screen? [13:25] TImewarper: for the nvidia's proprietary drivers? [13:26] yes [13:26] TImewarper: I suppose that's a question for the nvidia support :/ [13:26] TheSheep, how can i make the clock then show 24h [13:26] not 12 [13:27] TImewarper: which one, the one in the panel? [13:28] TImewarper: right-click on it, select "preferences" and then select the format you want [13:29] TImewarper: it seems that you can include an option in your xorg.conf that prevents nvidia drivers from displaying the splash [13:32] TheSheep, i fixed the splash [13:32] still i cant find how to make the clock 24h [13:32] remove pm [13:32] i dont find any option to change the type of time [13:33] TImewarper: right click on the clock, your will get a menu that says "clock" on top and then has "Properties", "Move", "Remove" and "Panel" in it [13:33] got that? [13:34] then click on "Properties", you will get a dialog with the clock and tooltip formats [13:36] k [14:21] Hello, I'm new in Xubuntu and IRC. [14:22] hello Shiupelis [14:22] hi [14:23] I was wondering that IRC is not usable anymore :D [14:23] But I see, that I made a misstake :D [14:24] i'm having problems with xfce4-notifyd. all of my notifications are surrounded by a black box. switching on compositing fixes the problem but then i get tearing when watching videos in vlc. also it worked without compositing earlier. [14:24] can anyone help me with this? [14:26] While I'm istalling any kind of software of Ubuntu center, I get a blank window titled "Debcof". This is normal? [14:27] yes [14:29] Thanks for the answer :) [14:33] np [14:38] What command(I want to set shortcut for keyboard) should be to change keyboard layout ? === cipi is now known as CiPi [14:42] Is there a program in Xubuntu to search in the whole PC? [14:42] A search program something? [14:43] CiPi: catfish [14:43] catfish [14:44] or for example synaptic for searching packages [14:44] it could be renamed to catfish search or something... [14:44] it will be [14:44] in xfce 4.10 [14:44] How to set shortcut to change keyboard layout ? [14:44] then ALT+F2 will do that [14:44] doesn't ansone have an idea about my notification problem? [14:44] Thnaks bro. Got it. [14:44] no sorry im using the unity indicator [14:45] :( [14:45] Shiupelis: http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-xkb-plugin [14:46] does that help? [14:50] Shiupelis: you want to hit a key on the keyboard that toggles between a few keyboard layouts? you want a shortcut key to the keyboard layout menu? [14:52] Thanks bro's. Fixed :) [14:53] I installed xkb plugin, added to my panel, and set up keyboard shortcut :) [15:06] np [15:18] good evening people [15:20] hello [15:28] Hi [16:26] hello, i need to copy 20gb from linux partition to a ntfs 2tb external hard drive.. i can copy for the external and everything else but it won't let me copy to it.. thunar ran under admin shows it with a lock pad.. how would i go about copying these files over?? [16:27] also the files are in .wine/drive_c/program files/ area. [16:40] have you tried sudo cp -r ~/.wine/drive_c/ ... ? [16:41] let me try that asap [16:44] hey... i'm new to linux stuffs... i insallted xubuntu on an old computer with ~512MB RAM and it runs, but rather slowly [16:44] Is there anyway I could speed it up? [16:44] Michi74390: i dunno if it's working or not... i'll let ya know when i do though.. [16:45] alright ;) [16:46] so far it's just showing > [] basically how it looks.. [16:46] k [16:46] how long do you think i should wait i got 1gb ram 2.1ghz dual core... and the folder was 36gb.... [16:47] starn: external drive? [16:47] Michi74390: yes.. i think fastest i've seen it go was 16mbps... [16:49] i think my usb 2.0 drive takes like 10 - 15 minutes for that much data [16:49] not wuite sure though [16:49] *quite [16:49] coolmag: are you talking about boot time? [16:49] or application start up time? [16:50] Michi74390: Like when I click the little mouseface in the upper left corner it takes about 5 seconds to respond [16:50] also would using LTS be any better [16:51] oh well startup is also kinda slow [16:58] Michi74390: i don't think it is doing anything.. the folder is not getting bigger... [17:00] starn: but there was no error output? [17:00] yea no work.. i cancled and tried a much smaller file.. [17:00] says Read-only file system :\ [17:01] Michi74390: i think it automatically mounts the drive on boot... and i don't remember how i did this.. lol [17:02] oh um and now nothing is responding [17:03] is there liek a key sequence to press to get something happening [17:03] you can switch to a terminal [17:03] alt+ctrl+f1 [17:03] then start top [17:04] sudo top [17:04] that's a task manager [17:04] you can kill processes with k and then pid [17:05] erg i forgot my login >< [17:05] Michi74390: i got it working.. i unmounted the drive unplugged and it automatically mounted... i think it automatically mounts on bootup as a read only drive... [17:06] Michi74390: btw i had to manually unmount for it never shows the lil unmount button or options for it.. [17:07] maybe have a look at your /etc/fstab [17:09] Michi74390: it's in there and i assume -ro is read-only so i assume i change it to o?? [17:09] rw for read/write [17:10] ok this is how it looks right now before editing /dev/sdg1 /media/HD-LBU2 ntfs nls=iso8859-1,ro,umask=000 0 0 [17:12] is Xubuntu LTS better than the latest version? [17:16] coolmag: i've only used the latest version so i can't tell you anything about the lts [17:16] but you could try something like puppy linux or lubuntu as well [17:16] same here.. plus factor i've only started using xubuntu after ubuntu went over to uninty.. [17:17] Lubuntu? what's that? [17:17] haha i liked puppy linux i had it on a machine i had [still have] from 1995. [17:18] ^^ [17:18] lubuntu is based on ubuntu and using lxde [17:19] a little leaner than xfce [17:19] but xfce has little more comfort [17:19] hm does it have the Ubuntu Software Center? [17:19] Michi74390: think i should put lubuntu on my 98?? lol use it as a small server? XD [17:20] you could put damn small linux or puppy linux on there ;) [17:21] or arch without x [17:21] who needs a gui? ;) [17:21] i hav ~512MB RAM on the machine doesn't it seem that Xubuntu should run well? :| [17:21] actually i think it should [17:22] what is the other hardware? [17:22] haha anyways Michi74390 thanks for the help.. i actually probably would've thought ot unmount and all that fancy stuff and fstab i surely would've never touched with out your suggestion. maybe now i won't run into the issue of not being able to copy my files over :) [17:22] doesn't xubuntu say it can run on 256mb of ram? [17:23] starn: no problem ;) [17:23] Michi74390: I have no idea x.x it's a dell dimensino 4600 [17:24] 9 yrs old and makes rly loud noises randomly [17:24] sorry i have to go now [17:25] bai bai [17:25] bye [17:25] ok Michi74390 later mate. [17:25] good thing is, these are all easy to check out live [17:25] assuming you have the bandwidth... if you can tolerate the desktop from a LIVE cd, then it'll likely be just fine installed [17:26] starn: can you fix by xubuntu T_T [17:26] holstein: It ran fine with the LIVE CD [17:27] coolmag: i am unsure.. from what i understand you have a Pentium 4.. at either 2.4 2.6 2.8 3.0ghz internally and lowest 800mhz externally.. [17:27] does that mean i need to use lubuntu starn T_T [17:27] and i don't know the specs for xubuntu just know it stated 256ram it could run but suggested 512. [17:27] Hi, I'm having trouble finding some of the things listed in the documentation. In the system section of the applications menu there isnt any Network tools or Services option. Does anyone know where I should look for them? [17:27] it probably wouldn't hurt to try lubuntu.. [17:27] ya and I have 512MB [17:28] :( [17:29] holstein: do you think xubuntu would run smooth with dell dimension 4600? [17:30] starn: i would try it live and see... lubuntu should be fine there though [17:30] holstein: alright i am asking for coolmag.. so yeah coolmag i would try lubuntu [17:31] ive used 10.04 on 512 of ram without issue [17:32] thats just normal buntu... xubntu runs fine there as well... i have lubuntu 11.10 installed on that machine now for testing purposes [17:32] works fine [17:32] i wouldnt edit video on it [17:35] I'm running xubuntu 10.10, but the documentation that came with it is 9.10. Could someone please point me towards the 10.10 documentation? I can't seem to find it on the xubuntu website. [17:36] maybe https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/MaverickMeerkat/Final xubuntunoob [17:36] Thank you [17:38] well i got 20 minutes before i am done copying files and my music is lagging so i am gonna lay down.. i'll be back later to try to help or i might have questions haha [17:38] later everyone. [17:43] Ok, the documentation says to "Press Applications → System → Network Tools". Yet when I go to systems there is no Network Tools option. Could someone please tell where I should look for it? [17:45] holstein: wuts the diff between lubuntu and xubuntu [17:45] coolmag: lubuntu uses LXDE, and xubuntu uses XFCE, as well as some package choices that are made... [17:45] xubuntunoob: what are you trying to do? [17:45] holstein: does Lubuntu have that ubuntu download manager thing [17:46] coolmag: lubuntu uses the same repos as ubuntu/xubuntu/kubuntu [17:46] holstein: Also do you think if I use LTS instead of 11 it will run better? [17:46] it has access to whatever pacakges you would like to use [17:46] coolmag: better is a matter of opinion [17:46] i mean will it run better on my computer that isn't running 11 well [17:46] holstein: I'm trying to create a samba share that I can access with a windows machine. Its not working, and I'm trying to follow the troubleshooting advice in the documentation. [17:46] will it be more stable? possibly... will it be as current? no... really just depends on what you want [17:48] xubuntunoob: samba is a pain... i typically just make an SSH share, and connect with filezilla, or something like http://www.swish-sftp.org/ from the windows box [17:48] i set samba up once just to say i could, but dont expect to read a document, and just get it running in 4 or 5 minutes [17:48] its *not* trivial [17:49] xubuntunoob: for me, it was all about troubleshooting permissions [17:49] holstein, I've gotten samba working before on linux mint so that's why I chose it, but I'm not married to it by any means. [17:50] I don't suppose you know where I could find a nice simple guide on setting up a SSH share? [17:50] xubuntunoob: it will be just the same as on mint [17:51] and you *should* have access to whatever pacakges you used in mint, unless they have something special they have written, which could also be added with a PPA (i assume) [17:51] xubuntunoob: i run... sudo apt-get install openssh-server [17:53] Ok, I'll try playing with samba some more. But if that doesn't work I'll try the SSH share. I appreciate the help! [17:54] the ssh share will 'just work', but if you have a guide you used for mint/samba, feel free to share, and im sure someone can help you do the same in *buntu [17:59] heh, of course now the mint forums are down :/ [18:02] holstein: Do you think I should try Lubuntu or Xubuntu LTS next? [18:02] coolmag: i mean, if you have bandwidth and CD's, it literally cant hurt to try whatever LIVE [18:03] holstein: Haha xD I do, but not too many CDs :) so if one works i would just stick with that, is there one that you suggest I burn first? [18:03] LTS or Lubuntu [18:04] coolmag: you can use USB sticks to make bootable USB images [18:04] OHHHH [18:04] um [18:04] can my 9 yr old computer boot from USB> [18:04] if the machine doesnt boot USB, you can use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html ...the las CD you need to ever burn :) [18:05] ahhh [18:05] gr8 [18:05] ty [19:41] Xubuntu's installer thingy is all BOXES? [19:42] I ran the Xubuntu installer thingy from the disc, and where there was supposed to be words everything was boxes [19:43] coolmag: i would confirm the install media, and the downloaded iso [19:44] yeah i'm running the "check disk for defects" thing [19:44] the live cd thing worked [19:44] coolmag: do your best to be precise [19:44] are you supposed to burn the iso at a certain speed [19:44] the 'thing' really is not all that helpful [19:44] the live installer? [19:44] or you chose 'install' when it was booting? [19:45] um the test xubuntu option [19:45] i was able to run it from the CD [19:45] but then when I tried to install I got the boxes [19:45] coolmag: at that point, you can likely take a screen shot [19:45] the installation dialog? [19:46] of whatever the issue is... you can take a screenshot if you are in the live environment [19:46] you can also reboot, and choose 'install' from the main menu [19:47] the problem is when i choose install [19:47] http://cdn.cbsi.com.au/story_media/339295397/550/xubuntu_1-550x411.jpg [19:47] so when i click the second one [19:47] there's a long loading screen, and then where words should be I see boxes [19:47] it looks like a font problem... I chose English [19:48] coolmag: OK.. so when you choose "try xubuntu without.." [19:48] oh and the disc checking tool thing didn't report any defects [19:48] in there, you can find the installer as well [19:48] that is fine. [19:48] OH! [19:48] Run it from there? [19:48] the installer, yes [19:48] Ok. where is the installer in there? i didn't see it earlier [19:48] should be in the menu [19:48] i dont have a live CD open here at the moment [19:49] oh [19:49] now it says [19:49] it? === zenrox_ is now known as zenrox [19:50] "Installation failed." The installer encountered an unrecoverable error. A desktop session will now be run so that you may investigate the problem or try installing again." [19:50] the installer? the one from the main menu? or the one fromthe live CD? [19:50] the installer from the live CD said that [19:50] coolmag: from that main menu, there are options... personally, i would test that hard drive [19:50] i think you said it was 'making noise' [19:50] not buntu will magically repair broken hardware :/ [19:51] not yet anyways [19:51] ok I'm in the live xubuntu environment [19:51] um and it says [19:51] "Crash report detected" [19:51] and something about an application crashing but it dissapeared [19:51] coolmag: right... im proposing the noises you hear are the drive failing, and the crash is from that as well [19:51] o.o [19:52] ok I see the Insall Xubuntu icon on the desktop [19:52] i tried to run it but nothing happened. [19:53] coolmag: if you had a fail, and you are still working in that environment, i would expect that [19:53] coolmag: you should find 'disk utility' in the menu [19:54] in what menu? [19:54] under System? [19:54] i don't see it [19:54] i find it under 'settings' [19:55] that would be my next step... test the hardware [19:55] Under settings, i have settings manager, removable drives and media..., scim input method setup, screensaver, settings editor [19:55] that's it. [19:55] not sure where it is in your version [19:55] you can install it [19:55] or, get a live CD that has better diagnostic tools [19:56] you have a live 11.10 right? [19:56] thats where i find it [19:57] um [19:57] 10.04.3 [19:58] right, so you can install the disk utility.. reboot using an 11.10 cd, or DL something more appropriate like http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ === zenrox_ is now known as zenrox === CiPi is now known as cipi [22:29] hi [22:31] question regarding mount.cifs, using same command as on slackware box to mount NAS, getting error 13, any thoughts [22:31] hello there [22:32] mb sombdy can help me [22:32] TVasEyes: If you're on a slackware box, then the ##slackware folks would be the ones to talk to. Of course, if I misunderstood your question, then please proceed here. [22:32] i update my xubuntu via update manager and now my sopcast tv-maxe failure - segmentation error [22:33] in python tvmaxe.py [22:33] Pici: no, am on xubuntu 11.10 [22:34] Pici: am new to xubuntu [22:34] TVasEyes: What command are you using then? [22:34] Pici: mount.cifs //server/share /mnt -o guest [22:35] Pici: works fine on slackware [22:37] Pici: on xubuntu command results in: mount error(13): Permission denied [22:37] TVasEyes: are you running that with sudo? [22:38] Pici: no, ran command as root [22:38] TVasEyes: You're root on xubuntu? or on slackware? [22:39] Pici: now on xubuntu [22:40] Pici: sorry, root on both (when mounting/unmounting the NAS) [22:42] Anyone having info how to upgrade Thunderbird to vers.8.0? [22:42] TVasEyes: try using: -o guest,sec=none [22:43] Pici: sec for security? is what guest does. [22:44] Pici: tried, same result. [22:55] TVasEyes: I'm not sure what to suggest then, sorry. [22:56] Pici: sigh.. thanks. (seems I won't be listening to my mp3's tonight) [23:24] is there any Linux application to watch TV online? [23:26] Lectus: see http://www.ubuntugeek.com/zattoo-watch-online-tv-for-free.html (not tried it myself) [23:29] hello everybody [23:29] i have a problem with mi usb live xubuntu [23:29] when it starting to loading the system [23:30] this message [23:30] appeared [23:31] [9.017953] [] ? kernel_thread_helper+0x6/0x10 [23:31] and others similar [23:33] i supossed [23:33] the problem is mi nvidia [23:33] in the boot [23:33] someone could help me? [23:34] help you with what luchin ? [23:35] i have a problem with mi usb live xubuntu [23:35] when it starting to loading the system [23:35] this message [23:35] appeared [23:35] [9.017953] [] ? kernel_thread_helper+0x6/0x10 [23:41] um i am not really sure how to fix that.. some people have reported the kernel_thread_helper+0x6/0x10 part and said it didn't work on their netbooks but those was reports for ubuntu but they also stated using alternate install cd worked.. so you may want to search it up your self?? i am at a completely lost on how to help you.. thats kinda to advanced, [23:41] now watch someone explain how its simple .. [23:45] i finally start [23:45] xubuntu [23:45] yeah [23:45] it's working? [23:45] yeah [23:45] the trick [23:46] is put ACPI=off [23:46] in the option of startup [23:46] bye [23:46]