[10:41] hi [10:41] i need a help with juju [11:50] Hello mrskanko. [11:51] What is the problem? [11:53] i'm using Juju on openstack [11:54] i have configured the environment [11:54] but when i bootstrapping it [11:54] and i do juju status [11:54] i received a SSH ERROR [11:54] and i can't connect to the machine [11:55] but if i run in terminal ssh - i ubuntu@boostraped_machine [11:55] it run correctly [11:58] have you understood? [11:58] Oh right, didn't see that yet. Sorry [11:59] Phew. I have no idea, sorry. I'm sure someone will get back to you as soon as he reads this tough. [11:59] don't worry [12:00] thank you [16:33] What juju.control package contains? [18:22] hey [18:22] anyone around, by any chance? [18:28] i can't quite work out how in the bootstrap process the zookeeper daemon actually gets run. [18:28] i can see how the zookeeperd package gets installed, and how the initial zk hierarchy is created, but can't find the actual exec of zookeeperd [18:29] it's something in juju/providers/common/cloudinit.py that i'm missing, i'm sure [18:30] why i'm doing this on a sunday night, i'm not quite sure :-) [18:35] rog: hehe, not a good time to get support [18:35] rog: i'll start to dig deeper next week. right now first reedings in the wiki [18:38] TheMue: first reedings? [18:38] TheMue: have you started yet? [18:39] rog: eh, reading [18:39] rog: no, i'll start on thursday [18:41] TheMue: cool! looking forward to working with you. [18:43] rog: yep, me too. and listening to your music. *smile* [18:44] rog: i think we'll meet in budapest [19:06] TheMue: wonderful. [19:55] rog, ping [19:55] rog, the zk instance is started as a consequence of installing the pkg [19:56] that's fairly common for daemon packages [20:15] hazmat: thanks, that's useful [20:15] hazmat: i thought the packages were just the equivalent of apt-get packages [20:16] which don't run anything... i think. right? [20:16] if the packages passed to cloud-init aren't apt-get packages, what are they? [20:17] rog, they are apt-get packages [20:17] rog, daemon packages will install upstart files that can start the relevant software [20:17] rog, ie if you apt-get install nginx or apache, it will actually start the daemon [20:18] a daemon package is just a semantic distinction i'm making on what software is being installed [20:19] hazmat: i never realised that apt-get stuff could actually run the programs you're installing [20:19] wow [20:25] doesn't they just install the scripts in /etc/init.d and set the links in rc0.d to rcS.d? [20:26] so everything is starting fine with the next boot and additionally the first time directly by apt? [20:29] TheMue, indeed that's one way.. the newer way is to use upstart [20:29] which does an inotify listen on the files in its dir and executes new ones [20:29] it also monitors the the rcX.d dirs [20:29] TheMue, http://upstart.ubuntu.com/ [20:30] SpamapS, looks like that sites need a new news item re the new releases [20:31] SpamapS, actualy the downloads there don't correspond at all to the ones in the distro [20:31] 1.3 vs 0.6.x [21:03] hazmat: ah, will take a look at it [21:31] TheMue, welcome aboard ;-) [21:59] hazmat: thx, i really appreciate it [23:47] hazmat: upstream upstart is not like ubuntu upstart [23:47] hazmat: though I believe the delta is quite small as of 1.3