[00:00] <LINKSWORD2> BluesKaj: Hey Blue. I don't suppose you know of any existing issues with Rekong crashing?
[00:35] <BluesKaj> LINKSWORD2, no afraid not
[01:56] <Macer> i am having problems with my tyan mboard going to sleep
[01:56] <Macer> i want it to be able to suspend and it doesn't seem to want to do so
[01:57] <Macer> not only that but sometimes shutting it down causes a reboot
[01:57] <Macer> any ideas?
[03:06] <[Relic]> does anyone else get a little squiggle thing in the bottom right hand corner on flash apps?
[03:37] <nephtes> Hello, requesting help setting up internet connection sharing with kubuntu 11.10
[03:37] <nephtes> I've done this directly with iptables in the past but hoping to save some hassle this time
[03:38] <nephtes> kubuntu box connects to rounter on wlan0 and a second machine via crossover cable on eth0
[03:39] <nephtes> I've used System Settings/Network Connections to set the "Method" under "IPv4" address to "Shared" on eth0
[03:39] <nephtes> But as a result ifconfig shows no IPv4 address assigned to the interface, only IPv6
[03:40] <nephtes> Any hints much appreciated, thanks
[04:26] <brhad56> Ever since upgrading to kubuntu 11.10, when i come back to wake up my computer, my internet doesn't work anymore until i reboot.  Help?
[04:28] <brhad56> i am on wired connection
[05:51] <ubuntu> lupe
[06:14] <areichman> hello. I'm having some problems with my dvd drive. Any disc I put in doesn't show up in KDE
[06:14] <areichman> the drive shows up in lshw and in k3b but with the status nodisc
[06:15] <areichman> I just moved it to a different SATA port (I moved it because it had already stopped working, not the other way around) but the problem is the same
[06:25] <mr-rich> areichman: Sounds like the drive went south ...
[06:25] <areichman> mr-rich: would it still show up in lshw if the drive was bad?
[06:26] <areichman> It has power (open and closes and spins) but no disc is ever recognized
[06:26] <mr-rich> areichman: It could .... if the read head went bad, the drive would still be seen ...
[06:26] <mr-rich> but not accessed ...
[06:27] <areichman> and is there any way to replace the read head?
[06:27] <mr-rich> better off replacing the whole drive ... less expensive, too ...
[06:28] <areichman> ack
[06:28] <areichman> not what I wanted to hear
[06:28] <mr-rich> You could try a head cleaner ... a dvd with tiny brushes on it
[06:29] <mr-rich> bed time ...
[06:30] <areichman> thanks for your help
[06:30] <areichman> good night
[09:03] <xuser1> im searching for the best linux distribution for me > my system is > 1.5 ghz cpu , nvidia v.card 256 mb . 1 gb ram ; can you recomend me something?
[09:04] <xuser1> :D
[09:04] <xuser1> im using linuxmint 10 now
[09:04] <xuser1> but in dont like gnome 3
[09:05] <xuser1> is kde better?
[09:09] <xuser1> is kde better?
[09:09] <xuser1> than gnome3
[09:09] <xuser1> ?
[09:10] <earlten_> it's all opinion
[09:11] <earlten_> each has pros and each has cons
[09:11] <earlten_> all you can do is try for yourself and see
[09:11] <xuser1> but , does kde consume more resources than g 3?
[09:12] <xuser1> i tryed kde
[09:12] <xuser1> and i dont like it
[09:14] <xuser1> is fedora faster than ubuntu?
[09:14] <xuser1> :-/
[10:03] <sudy> bonjour a tous
[11:07] <genoobie> hey all
[11:07] <genoobie> I was updating pkgs
[11:07] <genoobie> 270 and the machine seems to be stuck
[11:07] <genoobie> any tips?
[11:16] <genoobie> there's some weird behavior in the kbuntu
[11:18] <linxuser> genoobie: good to know its not just me (or not good but good to know)
[11:18] <linxuser> *glad to know?
[11:20] <genoobie> considering a reinstall
[11:21] <genoobie> I went to add a new user I got a gray blank screen
[11:21] <genoobie> There were some problems on the isntall
[11:21] <linxuser> genoobie: do you have a separate /home partition?
[11:22] <genoobie> well when I partitioned the drive I installed under "/"
[11:22] <genoobie> and I had a 2gb swap
[11:22] <genoobie> should I have created more partitions?
[11:23] <linxuser> after several installs I opted to make a /, swap, and /home cause
[11:23] <linxuser> on reinstall /home doesn't need to be reformatted
[11:23] <genoobie> how big was /home
[11:24] <linxuser> you get to keep all personal files. On mine I have 500 GB total so I made my
[11:24] <linxuser> my /home 350 GB
[11:24] <genoobie> I've got 120GB
[11:24] <genoobie> but I store everything on my NAS box
[11:25] <linxuser> I also have unused 60 GB for dual Windows 7 that I hardly ever use
[11:25] <linxuser> Oh, on your NAS is OK
[11:26] <linxuser> I've more partitions I haven't mentioned 5 to 10 GB each
[11:27] <genoobie> okay, so I want two users
[11:27] <linxuser> separate / for different linux installs
[11:27] <genoobie> and I've got a 40GB part for winxp
[11:27] <genoobie> and I wanted to use another 40gb for kubuntu
[11:27] <linxuser> my other linux installs share the same /home via symlinks
[11:28] <genoobie> the live version seemed to work better than the install
[11:28] <linxuser> it happens
[11:29] <linxuser> I also keep symlinks from /var/cache/apt to archive on the same /home partition so it
[11:30] <genoobie> gotcha
[11:30] <linxuser> doesn't have to redownload updates its done before
[11:31] <linxuser> I'm just throwing out ideas I've been playing with
[11:32] <genoobie> as soon as the install is done, and the cd is ejected
[11:32] <genoobie> do I have to put that cd back in after the grub loads for post-install?
[11:32] <genoobie> I wonder if I would have been better off with the amd64 install
[11:33] <franta> Hi guys! Anyone experiences the kde theme go black on every login except for the first one on 10.04 using kdm ?
[11:33] <franta> I think it's a problem in kdm since when I use gdm it works fine ...
[11:33] <linxuser> I didn't notice any performance improvement with amd64 so I reverted to i386
[11:34] <genoobie> linxuser, and you are using a amd chip?
[11:34] <linxuser> no sorry its an intel 64
[11:35] <linxuser> amd64 install on it
[11:35] <genoobie> if you had an amd64 would you use the i386 or the amd64
[11:36] <linxuser> never had a genuine amd64 so I don't know
[11:36] <genoobie> hrm
[11:36] <linxuser> knowing me I'd probably have tried
[11:37] <genoobie> I ran into a problem when I updated the computer
[11:37] <genoobie> it crashed and then flaked out
[11:37] <genoobie> so I am reinstalling with hopefully better luck
[11:37] <linxuser> hense the reason I discovered the /home thing
[11:37] <genoobie> oh so you ran into the same problem
[11:38] <genoobie> I wonder if I should try 10.04
[11:38] <linxuser> my problems were back in 2009/2010 - best of luck
[11:38] <genoobie> tx
[11:39] <genoobie> this install seems to be going more smoothly
[11:39] <linxuser> did you see the thing about kdm working?
[11:39] <genoobie> ?
[11:39] <linxuser> franta posted it back at 05:33
[11:40] <genoobie> yep I saw that
[11:41] <genoobie> well, dunno what to make of it.  I know this time the computer appears to be downloading more stuff
[11:41] <linxuser> I've been using kubuntu 10.04 w/kde3 trinity the last year so I'm all screwed up
[11:41] <genoobie> heh
[11:42] <genoobie> hopefully 11.04 is "fixed
[11:42] <genoobie> :)
[11:43] <linxuser> hopefully, I don't recomend trinity cause I got a bug up this last week
[11:43] <genoobie> I like the idea
[11:43] <genoobie> very "shiny" os
[11:43] <genoobie> stupid language packs
[11:43] <linxuser> decided to update to the new tde and had to reinstall 5 times finally reverting to kde3 trinity
[11:44] <genoobie> almost makes you want to use a bought OS
[11:44] <linxuser> yeah, the language pack :/
[11:44] <franta> linxuser: I wasn't here at 05:33  ...
[11:44] <linxuser> *packs
[11:44] <genoobie> franta, they means 6:33
[11:44] <genoobie> s/means/mean
[11:45] <linxuser> franta: sorry I must be in different TZ
[11:45] <franta> oh:)
[11:45] <franta> so what's the time now ?
[11:45] <genoobie> I wonder if I should just go ubuntu
[11:45] <genoobie> 6:45 eastern
[11:45] <franta> ok
[11:45] <linxuser> or is this GMT? its not my time
[11:46] <linxuser> 5:46 Central
[11:46] <franta> oooh you were referencing my post :) Now I get it ... sorry :)
[11:47] <linxuser> that is my time. its dark here, I forgot
[11:47] <genoobie> was looking for a distro that was faster than xp
[11:47] <genoobie> so far it's a tough find
[11:47] <linxuser> once its installed and running good I believe it is faster
[11:48] <genoobie> I dunno, there is probably some tweaking that needs to be done
[11:48] <genoobie> the big advantage is that it won't need much maintenance in the future
[11:48] <genoobie> or rather as much maintenance as xp
[11:48] <linxuser> theres definately that I don't update my windoze
[11:49] <genoobie> and it is far less prone to get sick
[11:49] <genoobie> with virii and crud
[11:50] <linxuser> yeah, mine hasn't got sick cept when I mess it up
[11:51] <genoobie> and this machine was equipped with vista. the xp downgrade was a bear
[11:51] <genoobie> the install of kubuntu was far easier
[11:51] <linxuser> I wasn
[11:52] <linxuser> I wasn't able to downgrade mine cause manufacturer didn't support xp for this machine
[11:52] <genoobie> likewise I had to go hunting for xp drivers
[11:52] <genoobie> tricky
[11:52] <genoobie> especially cause the OS is like 11 years old
[11:53] <linxuser> came with vista but I was in school in 09 so got free access to legal win7
[11:53] <genoobie> nice
[11:53] <genoobie> vista sucks
[11:53] <linxuser> ditto
[11:53] <genoobie> was thinking of registering for a class and then dropping it
[11:53] <genoobie> after I picked up a win7
[11:54] <genoobie> but then I figured I'd like to make a clean break with windows
[11:54] <linxuser> don't know if that'd work, but it might. I'd go with CISCO
[11:54] <genoobie> so I've been searching for a nice distro
[11:54] <genoobie> ??
[11:54] <genoobie> register for a cisco class?
[11:55] <linxuser> I'm running kbuntu 8.04, ubuntu-studio 9.10 - 10.04, and this trinity kbunt 10.04
[11:55] <genoobie> what's ubuntu studio?
[11:55] <genoobie> music related?
[11:56] <linxuser> yeah, I was going for cisco and was talked into full class load for student loan
[11:56] <genoobie> oh hah
[11:56] <linxuser> studio multimedia related
[11:56] <genoobie> gotcha
[11:56] <genoobie> ITT?
[11:57] <genoobie> they're good at pushing the hard sell
[11:57] <linxuser> I quit after 1 semester and paid off the loan. I could've took cisco 1,2,3, and 4 for less
[11:58] <linxuser> It was state comm tech college
[11:58] <genoobie> once upon a time I thought I watned to write device drivers
[11:59] <linxuser> I thought I'd be good at programming in '73 could've gotten into control data's school back then
[11:59] <genoobie> so do you program now?
[12:00] <linxuser> the days of basic, fortran, cobol. Now no, I played with C and C++ but gave it up
[12:01] <genoobie> heh, that's going back a ways.
[12:01] <genoobie> I entered into it when basic pascal and some fortran was around
[12:01] <genoobie> C was exploding
[12:01] <linxuser> weird it seems just a while back.
[12:01] <genoobie> :)
[12:01] <linxuser> I'm for sure getting old
[12:02] <genoobie> why do you like kubuntu over ubuntu?
[12:02] <linxuser> don't really know
[12:02] <genoobie> It's got a nice look to it
[12:03] <linxuser> I first tried kubuntu 6.06 and had it installed for 1 and 1/2 years before I did much
[12:03] <genoobie> my hope is to ween the family off of windows
[12:04] <linxuser> yeah, but unfortunately I've found the need to have it around to get online if linux fails for some reason
[12:04] <genoobie> ugh this installation seems stalled
[12:04] <linxuser> stalled where?
[12:05] <genoobie> "restoring previously installed packages"
[12:05] <linxuser> I thought you were doing fresh reinstall
[12:05] <genoobie> yes
[12:05] <genoobie> I was
[12:05] <genoobie> so I don't even know what that means...
[12:06] <genoobie> b/c I deleted the partition
[12:06] <genoobie> and all that...
[12:06] <linxuser> can you see it downloading or something and hd light activity
[12:06] <genoobie> yeah there's some activity periodically
[12:07] <linxuser> be patient
[12:07] <genoobie> :)
[12:07] <linxuser> if it needs some stuff from the server it can seem lifeless for a bit
[12:08] <genoobie> I suppose
[12:08] <linxuser> I hate to waste time my .02
[12:08] <genoobie> I just don't want the screen to go black on account of acpi stuff and have it ruin something in the install
[12:09] <genoobie> otherwise I'd go to bed
[12:09] <linxuser> keyboard or mouse activity keeps screen from blanking
[12:10] <genoobie> right but then I have to stand here...
[12:10] <linxuser> they enable screen saver by default
[12:10] <linxuser> do you know about the alternate ttys?
[12:10] <genoobie> sort of
[12:11] <genoobie> but like I said, I don't want to interrupt it
[12:11] <linxuser> ctrl+alt+f1 ...f2 , etc?
[12:11] <genoobie> so I just move the mouse every now and then
[12:12] <linxuser> yeah, the only program I know in terminal to monitor network is idtop but its not
[12:12] <linxuser> installed by default
[12:12] <linxuser> *iftop
[12:13] <genoobie> do you use "owncloud" ?
[12:13] <linxuser> owncloud not familiar
[12:13] <linxuser> checking
[12:14] <genoobie> meh, some kind of cloud thing they are touting
[12:14] <linxuser> not a program in my synaptics manager
[12:14] <genoobie> man, this is dragging...
[12:14] <linxuser> do you see network indication?
[12:14] <genoobie> I'm afraid the CPU is going to overheat and shutdown
[12:15] <genoobie> the hdd light is flickering
[12:15] <linxuser> wifi or ethernet?
[12:15] <genoobie> network has stopped
[12:15] <genoobie> ether
[12:16] <linxuser> if light on eth is not blinking its not communicating. is hd still working?
[12:16] <genoobie> yeah, I mean it's working, the cd spins up every now and then
[12:16] <genoobie> it's doing something...
[12:16] <linxuser> that usually a good thing
[12:17] <genoobie> okay finally..
[12:17] <genoobie> this time the install appears complete compared to last tiem
[12:17] <genoobie> s/tiem/time
[12:17] <genoobie> I sure as heck hope this works...
[12:18] <linxuser> install from cd, or usb?
[12:18] <genoobie> cd
[12:18] <linxuser> does it spin up occasionally?
[12:19] <genoobie> ugh, the bootloader had "previous linux versions"
[12:19] <genoobie> okay seems better
[12:19] <linxuser> is it still installing bootloader?
[12:20] <linxuser> last thing my install did
[12:20] <genoobie> ugugugug
[12:20] <genoobie> it used "previous installs" for stuff
[12:20] <linxuser> o of
[12:20] <genoobie> damnit
[12:20] <genoobie> I'm going to bed
[12:20] <genoobie> this sucks
[12:20] <genoobie> nice chatting, but I'm po'ed
[12:21] <genoobie> nite
[12:21] <linxuser> well good try
[12:21] <linxuser> nite
[12:22] <linxuser> hadn't noticed its am
[12:22] <linxuser> bummer
[12:25] <MMlosh> Hi!  Is it still possible to get gnome-keyring unlocked on login in kubuntu 11.10?  All my tries have failed (for this release, older releases are fine)
[12:25] <linxuser> genoobie: if you're still up, next time do install without net connected
[12:32] <linxuser> MMlosh: I've not ventured beyond 10.04 ... can't help  ... google found nothing for me
[12:32] <MMlosh> linxuser, that suggests that I tried searching first.. thanks for confirmation
[12:33] <linxuser> MMlosh: figured you had but I tried too. hey someone out there might know
[12:37] <linxuser> after reading about it I'm glad I stayed behind
[12:37] <linxuser> sheesh! I'm gettin old
[13:11] <tatie> refreshing software list - stuck at 95%
[13:11] <tatie> can't install anything because of that it seems. what would be a solution?
[13:16] <LusH> moin
[13:26] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:51] <linxuser> tatie in maybe a source is offline. if you can tell what server its stuck on
[13:52] <linxuser> you might try ping -c 1 THAT_SERVER'S_ADDRESS to see if its down.
[13:53] <linxuser> tatiefrom a terminal
[13:54] <linxuser> ping -c 1 THAT_SERVER'S_ADDRESS
[13:56] <linxuser> didn't see [07:20] <-- tatie has left
[14:05] <b-real> alguien puede ayudarme con la conexion wifi?
[14:09] <Peace-> b-real: english
[14:10] <linxuser> b-real: lo siento, yo no sé español tampoco.
[14:11] <TImewarper> where can i get the shred utility from?
[14:11] <b-real> someone can help me cuz i have some troubles  with  the wifi connection
[14:13] <b-real> linxuser pero si lo escribes bien eh?? ;)
[14:13] <Peace-> b-real: iwconfig in konsole
[14:13] <Peace-> !pate | b-real
[14:13] <b-real> oks
[14:13] <Peace-> !paste | b-real
[14:14] <linxuser> TImewarper: my synaptics reports its part of coreutils
[14:15] <TImewarper> linxuser, ok and how about the frandom
[14:15] <TImewarper> another random generator tool
[14:15] <TImewarper> in what package is that?
[14:16] <b-real> peace accep a priv?ateconve
[14:16] <linxuser> TImewarper: not showing in my install
[14:17] <TImewarper> linxuser, http://sourceforge.net/projects/frandom/
[14:17] <TImewarper> any idea how to install that?
[14:18] <b-real> pace http://paste.ubuntu.com/751430/
[14:18] <linxuser> b-real: utilizando translate.net lento eh?
[14:18] <b-real> no estoy traduciendo...
[14:19] <Peace-> b-real:  usb or internal wifi ?
[14:19] <b-real> solo intentando k me ayudeis
[14:19] <Peace-> !english | linxuser b-real
[14:20] <b-real> peace internal wifi
[14:20] <Peace-> b-real: lspci  on konsole
[14:20] <b-real> ok
[14:21] <linxuser> TImewarper: don't know. anyone help Timewarper with a build/install
[14:21] <b-real> peace http://paste.ubuntu.com/751437/
[14:22] <linxuser> TImewarper: I'm not familiar with source code installs
[14:22] <Peace-> b-real: so you have this 0b:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
[14:22] <Peace-> !broadcom | b-real
[14:22] <linxuser> *not familiar i.e. don't understand how to
[14:24] <linxuser> ubottu: sorry I was using translate.net I'm english only
[14:24] <linxuser> heh
[14:24] <Peace-> linxuser: ubottu is a program.
[14:25] <linxuser> :)
[15:44] <hustler2> are there kde 4.8 beta packages for kubuntu ?
[15:47] <PaulW2U> hustler2: afaik, 4.8 will only be available to precise users and backported to oneiric when released
[15:51] <lnxslck> Apart from that, if used with a newly created Nepomuk database, KDE 4.8 Beta 1 is the most stable and fast KDE ever created, even if it has some Nepomuk problems. KWin 4.8 is a lot faster than KWin 4.7 and, for the first time ever, I can fully use blur in my GeForce 6150SE. Dolphin 2 is simply awesome, even though it's not finished. QML Plasmoid replacements are working a treat.
[15:51] <lnxslck> kde 4.8 looks good
[15:52] <hustler2> that's why i would like to beta test it
[15:56] <lnxslck> hustler2, you can get it from svn or something
[15:57] <hustler2> ok
[16:07] <phoenix_firebrd> is there a ppa for digikam 2.3.0 64 bit
[16:16] <phoenix_firebrd> is there a ppa for digikam 2.3.0 64 bit
[16:20] <GirlyGirl> Hi, are packages of KDE 4.8 beta available for Kubuntu or will I have to build from source to test it?
[16:27] <DarthFrog> GirlyGirl: Doesn't look like it.  I can't find them on kubuntu.org or kde.org.
[16:27] <DarthFrog> Mind you that doesn't mean they don't exist or are forthcoming. :-)
[16:35] <daviddoria> I ran some software updates. It seems to have stuck at "Running post installation trigger man-db" I can't logout or shutdown because if I try it says "cancelled by muon-updater. What should I do?
[16:36] <DarthFrog> How long has it been running?
[16:36] <daviddoria> it has been there for an hour or so, it is clearly not doing anything
[16:37] <DarthFrog> From the terminal, you can run these commands: ps aux | grep muon
[16:37] <DarthFrog> That will give you the PID (process ID) of the muon process.s
[16:38] <daviddoria> ok got it
[16:38] <DarthFrog> then: sudo kill -15 <muon PID>
[16:38] <daviddoria> ok, i can kill it, i was just afraid of killing an update process
[16:38] <DarthFrog> It may bork your system, yes.
[16:38] <daviddoria> haha, so no other option?
[16:38] <phoenix_firebrd> he may also need to kill qaptworker
[16:38] <DarthFrog> Wait till it finishes? :-)
[16:39] <daviddoria> ok i killed it, let me restart
[16:40] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel:  is there a ppa for digikam 2.3.0 64 bit
[16:42] <yofel> phoenix_firebrd: not that I know of
[16:46] <daviddoria> phew, not borked haha
[16:47] <kbroulik> but this time there will be beta packages for 4.8 not like with the last time at 4.7? :)
[16:47] <daviddoria> another question - I am trying to add things to the panel. I right click -> panel options -> add widgets. Then I drag the "application launcher" to the panel. The cursor changes to indicate that I can drop it there, but when I drop it, nothing happens - no icon appears. I've tried with "network monitor" as well. How do I get these to add to the panel?
[16:47] <DarthFrog>  daviddoria: Now I would run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a".
[16:48] <kbroulik> daviddoria: you have to move it around a bit till a grey rectangle/sqare appears, then you can drop it
[16:48] <kbroulik> (and they marked my bug report as WorksForMe because they say it works but I also have to fiddle around when adding widgets to the panel)
[16:49] <daviddoria> ah kbroulik i see, thanks
[16:49] <daviddoria> DarthFrog, ok
[16:54] <daviddoria> DarthFrog, it is asking me about settings for whole bunches of packages - are you sure this was a good plan :) ?
[16:55] <DarthFrog> Your call.  It's your system. :-)  Since you interrupted dpkg, I would think there are some things left hanging.
[16:56] <DarthFrog> You could terminate that process and try "sudo apt-get -f install" instead.
[16:56] <DarthFrog> That might suit your focus better. :-)
[17:01] <turing> Everytime kdedaemon after logging in asks for kwallet password. Is there a way to let it remember and not ask again and again after login?
[18:56] <memeemeee> hello. I installed my ubuntu 11.10 system with a separate partition for / and  /home if I install kubuntu on the / partition will it work with the /home partition automatically?
[18:58] <en1gma> does the cd or dvd kubuntu 11.10 come with wireshark?
[19:01] <memeemeee> anyone?
[19:02] <anathema_> Do anyone know how to permanently disable one of the two sound cards?
[19:08] <linxuser> memeemeee: you have to pick the partition with /home without formatting /home
[19:08] <linxuser> memeemeee: but telling it about it calling it /home at install
[19:09] <memeemeee> linxuser: k. and #ubuntu chanel said i could just instll kubuntu-desktop from apt and remove gnome and unity for the same effect
[19:10] <linxuser> memeemeee: ok, I thought you were reinstalling
[19:10] <memeemeee> i was, but only so i could get rid of unity and gnome
[19:10] <memeemeee> i should've started with kubuntu but didn't
[19:11] <linxuser> memeemeee:  I'll have to google it but the install kubuntu-desktop might be right
[19:12] <memeemeee> thx linxuser, if i can avoid doing a clean install it'd be better
[19:14] <memeemeee> at #ubuntu they said kubuntu is just ubuntu minimal install plus kubuntu-desktop is that true?
[19:14] <linxuser> memeemeee: I ran across this http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[19:15] <linxuser> memeemeee: I was looking for something else this morning and remembered having seen this
[19:16] <linxuser> memeemeee: I found it in my browser history. Maybe someone else can verify if its good
[19:18] <anathema_> what is the default driver for ati cards?
[19:18] <linxuser> memeemeee: you know about that /home partition can be unformatted on fresh install
[19:19] <linxuser> memeemeee: keeping all your /home and its settings intact. just programs need fresh install
[19:19] <linxuser> memeemeee: but previous settings for those programs is retained
[19:21] <memeemeee> looks good linxuser. yes i know that /home can remain unformated, but if i can get to 'pure kubuntu' without doing that it'd be easier for me. save me from setting up my ssh keys, fstab and ifconfig again.
[19:22] <memeemeee> I'll go through those apt remove suggestions one by one and make sure they're things i want to remove
[19:24] <linxuser> memeemeee: no confirmation from anyone else out there in #kubuntu?
[19:25] <linxuser> *I like more opinions myself but its not been easy to get over the years
[19:26] <linxuser> I'm noob to irc ( < week ) ;)
[19:31] <linxuser> memeemeee: wow I just cut-pasted the stuff from http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde into kate
[19:31] <linxuser> memeemeee: thats a huge task doing all those removes one by one
[19:33] <linxuser> memeemee seems doing sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and using -s option
[19:33] <linxuser> memeemeee: sudo apt-get -s install kubuntu-desktop will show what it would do without doing it
[19:36] <rork> memeemeee: you're home directory should be mounted on system level, not on desktop environment level, so just installing kubuntu-desktop so I don't think that's a problem. The commands from psychocats to remove desktops worked fine for me on older systems.
[19:36] <memeemeee> thx
[19:39] <memeemeee> i'm reviewing the list. curious why I'm uninstalling python for example
[19:39] <linxuser> I have copies of /etc/fstab and /etc/network/* but I haven't used ssh just know its secure shell
[19:40] <linxuser> on reinstall I've had to edit in missing fstab stuff and /etc/network/ files
[19:41] <linxuser> */etc/network/interfaces
[19:42] <memeemeee> is it a mistake to install kubuntu-desktop while logged in with gdm? should I have logged out and done it from the CL?
[19:42] <linxuser> memeemeee:  don't know. anyone else got input?
[19:43] <rork> memeemeee: no, it's fine to install it when logged in, if you install kdm besides gdm it will ask you which you want to use, choose kdm if you plan to remove gdm later.
[19:43] <memeemeee> k that's what i did. it just occured that i might have made a mistake
[19:44] <linxuser> rork: 's what I thought. thx for input
[19:44] <rork> you can also use gdm to run KDE if you like it better
[19:45] <memeemeee> yeah... no! i'm done with gnome and unity. used both on dif pcs for the past few years, but at this point i'm done
[19:45] <toumbo> Is there any way to beutify gtk gui on kde?
[19:46] <toumbo> beautify***
[19:51] <linxuser>  beautify????? I thought gtk was gdm
[19:52] <OerHeks> gnome theme on QT kde ..
[19:53] <linxuser> oh, Im using kde hardy theme on kde
[19:54] <linxuser> not as pretty but I resist change
[19:55] <TheBunTu> geting a error mesage install smooth-task... I installed cmake...   http://pastebin.com/6XTA1JsM
[22:17] <Timewarper> hey how can i run a program from terminal as another user?
[22:17] <Timewarper> using su?
[22:19] <linxuser> is su same as sudo
[22:24] <bvi_> .
[22:25] <linxuser> Timewarper: wild guess is login as other user then sudo su?
[22:27] <linxuser> Timewarper: I've done it as [sudo su  and  su] as myself. I don't have other user to try.
[22:31] <linxuser> Timewarper: never mind. question must be over my head
[22:33] <phoenix_firebrd> is akonadi backup and restore working in 4.8?
[22:51] <Timewarper> i want to run    dd /dev/urandom /dev/sdb       but also see the progress of the proccess. any ideas?
[23:10] <pedahzur> Having an interesting problem with blue devil.  I can connect to a device, but when I browse to that device, the "Loading folder..." goes to 94% or 96% and just hangs, and doesn't load any more.  I've used file transfer on this phone before...just can't get it to work on this computer (Kubuntu 11.04)
[23:12] <Guest95105> hola
[23:18] <linxuser> Timewarper: sounds like random trash output to me
[23:21] <Timewarper> linxuser, dude
[23:21] <Timewarper> quit talking about things you dont have a fucking clue about
[23:21] <Timewarper> you might break someones sytem
[23:21] <Timewarper> system^