[04:32] <Joe_> Running P3 with 128mb ram on dell dimension 4100.  Can not get lubuntu to install. Get to navy blue screen with logo and it never gets further. Looks lie its working but even letting it run overnight, it never finishes.
[04:32] <holstein> Joe_: i would try nomodeset
[04:32] <Joe_> Thoughts? Suggestions?
[04:32] <holstein> try forcing vesa, and passing some other options
[04:33] <holstein> other than that, try the LTS version
[04:33] <Joe_> Thx. I'm a total newbie, so what does that mean, please.
[04:34] <holstein> well, LTS is long term support.. i assume you are using verion 11.10, and the LTS is 10.04
[04:35] <Joe_> Is that
[04:35] <Joe_> Yes! Using 11,10
[04:36] <holstein> right, so you can try the 10.04 version
[04:36] <Joe_> So go back to the lts.
[04:36] <holstein> Joe_: you should have the alternate installer too
[04:37] <holstein> try http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/ubuntu-11.10-alternate-i386.iso
[04:37] <holstein> or the LTS
[04:37] <Joe_> Ok. Why?  Is that downloadable?
[04:38] <Joe_> T/ u will try that. Any difference in install procedure?
[04:38] <holstein> Joe_: why?
[04:39] <holstein> becuase the memory requirements are lower
[04:39] <holstein> the installer is totally different
[04:39] <holstein> its text based, and ligher on resources
[04:39] <holstein> lighter*
[04:40] <Joe_> Ok.  So, there' s no GUI?
[04:40] <holstein> its curses
[04:40] <holstein> i dont think you can use the mouse
[04:40] <holstein> but you dont type commands
[04:41] <holstein> its not rocket science
[04:41] <Joe_> I really am new to this.
[04:41] <holstein> Joe_: no worries
[04:41] <Joe_> Ok. T/ u
[04:41] <holstein> Joe_: you might have to go to puppy linux for that
[04:42] <Joe_> Yes, been reading about that
[04:50] <Unit193> holstein: You linked him to Ubuntu alternate, not Lubuntu alternate :P
[04:51] <holstein> Unit193: see?... where you you?
[04:55] <bioterror> ^__^
[04:56] <bioterror> holstein, http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/11.10/release/
[04:56] <Unit193> bioterror: LTS
[04:56] <holstein> bioterror: yeah :/
[04:56] <holstein> i dropped the ball
[04:56] <holstein> no good either
[04:56] <bioterror> we forgive you this time
[04:56] <holstein> i dont think that guy will figure it out
[04:56] <holstein> bioterror: hehe
[04:57] <holstein> maybe it'll install though
[04:57] <holstein> that will look and seem promising
[04:57] <bioterror> maybe it will be a hilarious experience to find out that he has a ubuntu :D
[04:57] <Unit193> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu#A10.04
[04:58] <bioterror> Unit193, you have read the mailing list
[04:58] <bioterror> and there has been conversation about how succesful the lts support has been ;)
[04:58] <Unit193> Heh, yeah
[04:59] <holstein> well, the core is supported though
[04:59] <holstein> i bet nothing is borked
[04:59] <JackyAlcine> The 10.04, I think, was the best release yet. Worked amazingly well right out the box.
[05:00] <JackyAlcine> If not for that, idt I would have stayed with Ubuntu.
[05:00] <bioterror> but it is ah so ugly ;)
[05:00] <bioterror> if you compare to 10.10
[05:00] <holstein> bioterror: you know... i think that makes 11.10 look so nice though
[05:00] <bioterror> :D
[05:01] <holstein> i had checked in around 10.04, and said... 'eh...'
[05:01] <holstein> i mean, it ran great, but yeah, it looked a little rough
[05:01] <JackyAlcine> lol, it worked!
[05:01] <bioterror> thats kinda like if you watch how bounch of girls moves around
[05:01] <holstein> 11.10 is just elegant
[05:01] <bioterror> there's one good looking and one less ;)
[05:01] <holstein> and still light
[05:01] <JackyAlcine> and it was free, I needed that at the time.
[05:04] <bioterror> free is good
[15:36] <genoobie> hey all
[15:37] <genoobie> I am excited to be download lubuntu!
[18:31] <fabioqc> hey peoples! new to lubuntu. I just did a minimal install from CD, once at the CLI i did sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[18:32] <fabioqc> im having trouble opening synaptic packet manager. it's not accepting my password.
[18:32] <fabioqc> its asking for the "administrative" password
[18:36] <xsaidx> fabioqc: im sorry cant help but why not use apt-get
[18:37] <fabioqc> well im not that versed in the command line.
[18:38] <fabioqc> also lets say im looking for a new application, one that perhaps i haven't heard about.
[18:38] <fabioqc> i could go into synaptic packet manager and type in the search bar whatever i was looking for.
[18:39] <fabioqc> to be honest i just swithed over from XP
[18:39] <Unit193> You can apt-cache search from CLI, but the password works using sudo from terminal?
[18:39] <fabioqc> sure does
[18:39] <fabioqc> i've ran many sudo commands and had to type my password
[18:39] <xsaidx> fabioqc: i see well you can use lubuntu softwa center its good tho
[18:40] <fabioqc> umm i got a phone call. brb.
[18:41] <Unit193> Okay, type  gksu synaptic from the terminal and see if there are more errors
[18:43] <fabioqc> ok back. let me try that command.
[18:43] <fabioqc> im new to all the commands also but learning is not too bad
[18:43] <fabioqc> i think what helps me is my first atari computer or ibm used dos only so i still recall that nice black screen
[18:44] <fabioqc> Unit193: gksu synaptic brings up a square box asking me for my administrative password. when i type my password it says incorrect.
[18:44] <fabioqc> is it because there is no root user? only me?
[18:45] <fabioqc> xsaidx: i dont think i have that preinstalled. or do it? im looking at the "start" menu for it now.
[18:45] <Unit193> fabioqc: Look at the terminal window, should have more
[18:47] <fabioqc> nothing in the terminal window, just my last command.
[18:47] <xsaidx> Unit193: wont be a bad idea if he drops  the  password prompt when he does admin task by editing the sudoes file just to fix this and redit ?
[18:47] <fabioqc> for example i can do sudo apt-get install "whatever" and it'll ask me for my password and it will work fine.
[18:48] <xsaidx> fabioqc: type in the console sudo dpkg-reconfigure synaptic
[18:48] <xsaidx> and try to use it again
[18:49] <xsaidx> Unit193: what about editin the sudoers file ?
[18:49] <fabioqc> no dice
[18:50] <fabioqc> still can't get into synaptic, you were telling me about lubuntu software center. where can i find that?
[18:50] <Unit193> Might want to just check to make sure it's same as yours
[18:52] <xsaidx> fabioqc: did you run update and upgade you system ??
[18:53] <xsaidx> fabioqc: try to launch sumthin else
[18:53] <xsaidx> like gksudo leafpad and see if you ll have the same error to see if its related to synaptic only
[18:54] <fabioqc> gksudo leafpad did not ask me for my password, it just opened leafpad right away.
[18:54] <fabioqc> btw a lot snappier then xp
[18:54] <fabioqc> i did go into "update manager"
[18:54] <xsaidx> fabioqc: now retry synaptic
[18:54] <fabioqc> and it found 10 items which i upgraded and then reboot
[18:54] <Unit193> ALright, meeting over, http://askubuntu.com/questions/48215/password-not-working-in-graphical-applications-gksu-works-with-sudo
[18:55] <fabioqc> but those 10 items were all related to PPA500 repository i believe thats for my graphics card
[18:55] <fabioqc> haha let me check that link
[18:56] <fabioqc> makes sense
[18:56] <fabioqc> works perfect now by using gksudo
[18:57] <xsaidx> Unit193: good shot :] btw i like that community site all the exhange stack  sites are greate
[18:57] <fabioqc> i changed authentication mode under gksu-properties to sudo (from su)
[18:58] <Unit193> It's not bad, and what he just changed should fix it
[18:59] <xsaidx> Unit193: tied myself too : ]
[18:59] <fabioqc> one last thing, how do i edit eth0 or wlan0 using a gui?
[19:00] <xsaidx> network-manager
[19:01] <fabioqc> xsaidx and Unit193 I thank you for your help today.
[19:01] <fabioqc> I hope you dont mind me hanging around, i just migrated from XP.
[19:02] <fabioqc> I'm just trying to set everything up like I had it under XP.. and then i'll buy a book to learn more.
[19:02] <Unit193> Just remember to look at the FAQ and maybe check askubuntu/forums ;)
[19:03] <fabioqc> Noted! Love IRC though, hope it never goes away hehe
[19:23] <fabioqc> wow i cannot find the transmission config folder, can anyone point me in the right direction. i did google search and it said /home/.config
[19:23] <fabioqc> i dont have that folder
[19:25] <bioterror> ~/.config/
[19:25] <fabioqc> /home/fabio/.config man i feel pretty bad
[19:25] <fabioqc> i just had to "show hidden files"
[19:26] <xsaidx> fabioqc: you have to launch first so it can make its own config i guess
[19:26] <xsaidx> launch it first then go see
[19:31] <fabioqc> Ok all done, except the .bin that was generated by transmission has 0bytes (from the 3.5mb .gz file i got from blocklist).. let me tinker some more here.
[19:35] <fabioqc> Ok fixed, file had to be a .txt file for it to import properly. the .gz file didn't do the trick.
[22:14] <genoobie> yay lubuntu!
[22:14] <genoobie> this had better be lightning fast...
[22:15] <genoobie> can I use any linux software on this linux machine