[19:12] hi guys is it possible to use compiz with 11.10 & gnome 3 [19:12] .... partly blind and need the colour filters that compiz provides [19:18] kurisu: In theory you can use it in "fallback mode." But not gnome-shell. [19:21] hmmm [19:21] so I have to use unity if I want to use 11.10 and compiz [19:22] or fallback mode in gnome 3 [19:23] slowly but surely they are re-adding the missing functionality (at least with respect to color filters, etc.) into gnome-shell. I'm photophobic so I need the reverse contrast and feel your pain. [19:24] apt-get install gnome-session-fallback??? [19:24] already did that but cannot get compiz working [19:24] kurisu: no :) [19:24] oh [19:24] it's a system setting [19:24] * joanie looks [19:24] oh right [19:25] thanks [19:25] it's under System Info [19:25] so gnome-control-center (or that 'name' menu in the right) [19:26] I basically used reverse contrast filters for everything [19:26] system settings if you use the menu route [19:26] ok in there [19:26] then under system info it's under graphics [19:26] log out, log back in, and compiz should work [19:26] (be launchable) [19:27] just states "Experience: Fallback" [19:27] no options [19:27] kurisu: so what is wrong with unity? is it that compiz doesn't affect it? [19:27] I hate unity [19:27] ... basically [19:27] I want gnome... with compiz [19:27] which bit do you hate? [19:27] ... (need compiz to be able to see _ [19:28] everything [19:28] its just not a very good desktop in my opinion [19:29] kurisu: yes, experience is fallback [19:29] and then log out [19:29] log back in [19:29] then launch compiz, ccsm, etc. [19:30] if you are not familiar with compiz-launching, I think it's compiz --replace but I cannot test on this system at the moment [19:30] ok i'll try thanks [19:32] hmm that didn't go so well [19:33] just got loads of errors... looked like compiz had 'taken over' but none of the kb shortcuts worked and everything was unuseable [19:35] you might need to configure some more of the compiz plugins [19:35] hmmm I just loaded my old compiz config [19:35] just checked the errors: (unity-window-decorator:5315): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap", [19:36] does that mean unity is still being used? [19:36] I think it means that the plugins are horribly messed up if you are not using unity [19:36] oh [19:37] unity is a compiz plugin, and a load of others are turned off as conflicts [19:37] you might need to turn off the unity plugin [19:38] It's already off [19:38] kurisu: look for the gnome keyboard/compatibility plugin in ccsm [19:38] that gives you your shortcuts I believe [19:40] the kb command plugin?? [19:41] seem to have nothing set [19:42] kurisu: I'm being summmoned for dinner. But on a machine at home I got this all working.... I can try to look later if you cannot sort it out. === joanie is now known as joanie_afk [19:46] ok thanks [21:41] It would have been nice to know why he doesn't like Unity. [21:41] Other than he doesn't think it a very good desktop. [21:44] it would [21:45] most people who don't like unity just don't like it, without specifics [21:46] * AlanBell doesn't like the alt-tab, application switcher so I use a different window switcher [21:46] the global menu I am not a fan of, but it is OK [21:46] window buttons on the left are fine, really don't care [21:47] * TheMuso nods. [21:47] the launcher is fine on the left, but I set it to never hide, popping in and out was annoying [21:48] the applications lens is fundamentally badly designed, it is rubbish at showing me the applications I have and puts more effort into showing me applications from the software centre that I don't have, so I built a new lens that groups them by category like the menu used to [21:48] To each their own. [21:48] Cool. [21:49] http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/appmenulens.png [21:53] Nice. === joanie_afk is now known as joanie