/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/11/27/#ubuntu-arm.txt

lilsteviegildean, you about?05:15
sefohi08:43
sefoanyone have a hercules ecafe slim with ubuntu installed?08:43
sefoIts netbook have a modified ubuntu thats i dont like08:43
sefothis use uboot for boot kernel but i dont know how works it for install new ubuntu08:43
IamTryingSystem is crashed??? ASUS Eee pad transformer i have (in tried to install Ubuntu).  e.g: http://i.imgur.com/E9o16.png09:41
IamTryingI copied also the file rootfs.ext2 but why its showing that?09:42
lilstevieIamTrying: which install is that09:42
lilstevieclearly the outdated one from jhinta actually09:43
lilstevieIamTrying: m.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1973184209:43
lilsteviehm09:43
lilsteviehttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19731842 even09:43
IamTryinglilstevie, i did this one, i have splash screen but not booting to ubuntu http://eeepadhacks.net/transformer-hacks/how-to-install-native-ubuntu-on-eeepad-transformer/09:44
IamTryingOnce i boot > I see the splash penguin icons > And then i get > http://i.imgur.com/E9o16.png09:45
lilsteviethat information is outdated09:45
IamTryinglilstevie, should i be doing then OLiFE? But is that same way?09:47
lilstevieOLiFE is not quite the same, it uses the internal emmc09:47
IamTryingOLiFE.tar.gz , OLiFE-Prime-Edition.tar.gz , Ubuntu.img.gz (3 files it got).09:48
lilstevieOLiFE-Prime-Edition has a rom included09:49
lilstevieOLiFE.tar.gz requires you to supply a rom, and the ubuntu.img.gz09:49
IamTryingWhat confusing me is that. I use nvflash but i do not have any external MicroSD cards will Olife do that?09:50
IamTryingUsing SSHDroid i included the rootfs.exe2 files in /sdcard/Ubuntu/rootfs.ext209:50
IamTryingnvflash if i can tell to look into that directory i think it should work.09:51
lilstevienot the same09:51
lilstevieusing olife it reflashes the entire emmc, including /sdcard09:52
lilstevieand reparitions it so ubuntu has its own partition09:52
lilsteviealso, with that kit you used, it requires an external SDcard09:52
lilsteviethat is why you are getting that error09:52
IamTryingI got it, but i do not have MicroSD card, i want to do it what i got now like not wait for SD card to buy etc.09:53
IamTryingIf i use Olife09:53
IamTryingCan i at-least go back like i did with restore.sh?09:53
gildeanlilstevie: just woke up, why09:53
lilstevieIamTrying: you can restore yes09:54
lilsteviegildean: I saw in the logs you upgraded compulabs modified natty to oneiric on the trimslice09:54
gildeanyeah09:55
lilsteviewas just wondering what you did, cause every time I try it dies horribly09:55
gildeani think it was just mostly using apt in apt the wrong way and changing the distro in sources.list09:56
IamTryinglilstevie, that is great. Just to make sure before i make mistake 1) i followed this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1191141  2) I downloaded OLiFE-Prime-Edition.tar.gz 3) Does it have the latest Ubuntu ARM or its old?09:56
gildeanthen multiple upgrades and dist-upgrades09:56
gildeanfirst upgrade, then dist-upgrade, then dist-upgrade again and then upgrade && dist-upgrade09:57
gildeaniirc09:57
lilsteviefair enough09:57
lilstevieusing do-dist-upgrade fails09:57
lilstevieIamTrying: it is oneiric09:57
gildeani did apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade09:58
gildeanthe first upgrade and dist-upgrade fail09:58
lilsteviegildean: cool09:58
lilsteviegildean: will try it in an hour or so :)09:58
lilsteviegildean: tbh I have been considering getting a generic image running on it09:59
gildeanthen the second dist-upgrade worked and then the last upgrade && dist-upgrade fixed the broken ones09:59
gildeanyeah, me too09:59
IamTryingOk, that is very latest to test with.09:59
lilstevieIamTrying: I maintain that image, and installer09:59
gildeanactually i made a site for it already, just haven't had time to start the project in more depth09:59
lilsteviefair enough09:59
gildeanhttp://julkinen.salaliitto.com/trimslice/09:59
lilsteviehah I saw that the other day10:00
lilsteviepretty cool10:00
IamTryingWow10:00
lilsteviegildean: actually I would be interested in adding trimslice support to my image for the tf10:00
IamTryinglilstevie, you are Genius10:00
lilstevieIamTrying: not really10:01
IamTrying:)10:01
IamTryinglilstevie.... , I installed the OLiFE-Prime-Edition but now its doing a loop auto reboot 1) http://i.imgur.com/gmLrs.png  2) http://i.imgur.com/4ISkR.png  without stop its like loop.11:41
IamTryingThis is the steps i took https://gist.github.com/139745411:42
lilstevieok yeah, sorry about that, can you switch the boot order11:46
lilstevieyou can do that without reflashing11:46
lilstevieby going into the update menu11:47
lilsteviethere is an issue in the current kernel that doesn't allow ubuntu to be default11:47
lilstevieonly secondary11:47
IamTryinglilstevie, https://gist.github.com/1397454    So i go to APX mode and reinstall and choose secondary?11:48
lilstevieor go into the update menu11:49
IamTryingYes i am now in Update menu> its saying 2. Ubuntu/Linux kernel 4. Ubuntu Rootfs11:49
IamTryingShould i take 2?11:49
lilstevieso yeah11:49
lilstevieoption 1 and 211:50
* infinity is tempted to buy a TrimSlice...11:50
infinityBecause my desk isn't littered with enough little ARM devices...11:50
lilstevieinfinity: heh11:50
IamTryingApplied 2 asking 1. Turn device on or 2. Hold vol-down then press vol-up  ?11:50
lilsteviepress 211:51
IamTryinglilstevie, i have black screen now : https://gist.github.com/139746311:52
lilstevieok,11:53
lilsteviereboot the device hold vol-11:53
IamTryingNow i started. And its again those loop11:53
lilstevieand press vol+ when asked11:54
IamTryingAfter power-on i have same loop again: 1) http://i.imgur.com/gmLrs.png 2) http://i.imgur.com/4ISkR.png  (auto restart and loop)11:54
infinitylilstevie: Do you know off the top of your head what the odds are of us being able to do a generic tegra2 kernel that supports, say, AC100, TF101, and TrimSlice?11:55
infinitylilstevie: The idea of shipping a different kernel image for every device is really off-putting.11:55
lilstevieIamTrying: you didn't follow the instruction I just gave11:55
IamTryingi did vol+ yes11:56
lilstevieinfinity: I was actually going to suggest something like that11:56
lilstevieIamTrying: you wouldn't have had that pic11:56
IamTryinglilstevie, i applied vol+ but still the same11:56
lilsteviepressing vol- white writing would have appeared11:56
lilsteviethen you press vol+11:56
infinitylilstevie: Suggest away.  Better yet, give me something based on our AC100 source that works on your TF101, I'll verify that it still works on my AC100, and we'll call it good. :P11:56
lilstevieinfinity: it would require patching device bootloaders though11:57
infinitylilstevie: (Lather, rinse, repeat for TS)11:57
lilstevieexcept for trimslice11:57
infinitylilstevie: Oh, that sounds less pleasant (the bootloader hackery).11:57
lilstevieto report a boardID11:57
infinitylilstevie: Due to AC100 and TF101 using messed-up Android boot/partition semantics, I'm assuming?11:57
infinityOh, or just boardID?11:57
lilsteviebecause all tegra2 tablets seem to report ventana as the board identifier11:57
infinityWe could perhaps fudge that heuristically.11:58
lilsteviemaybe11:58
lilsteviethat would be more plesant11:58
lilstevieinfinity: using in kernel pt hacks are probably a little bit better11:58
IamTryinglilstevie,  I have first this screen 1) http://i.imgur.com/gmLrs.png  > Pressing vol- / + or vol + or only vol - just not responding its doing the same loop over and over.11:58
lilsteviethe TF101 uses GPT11:58
infinityIt does?11:58
infinityCurious.11:59
lilstevieIamTrying: you are still not following11:59
lilstevieinfinity: yeah11:59
lilstevieGPT + forcing GPT on the commandline11:59
lilstevieIamTrying: white writing will appear on screen telling you to press volume up to boot RCK11:59
lilstevieyou need to hold volume down while pushing power until that writing appears12:00
infinityWell, assuming we're dealing with factory PT schemes, then, we could just assume nvflash+MBR is ac100, nvflash+GPT is TF101, and uBoot is TrimSlice.  That all falls apart when people do fun things like install uBoot on their AC100, though. ;)12:00
lilsteviethen press volume up12:00
infinityI'm sure we can come up with saner ways to gently probe.12:00
infinityOr something.12:00
lilstevieheh12:00
infinityI dunno.  Something to toss around anyway.12:00
lilsteviewell personally I am moving to u-boot as soon as it is more stable on the tf10112:00
infinityThree kernel images won't kill us either.  At the very least, we should generate them from the same source, so it's a bit more maintainable.12:00
lilstevieat the moment though u-boot is small enough to put the MBR at the start of "rest of flash" as per swarrens brain dump12:01
lilsteviethe tf101 does a similar thing with boot blocks on emmc12:01
infinityYeah.12:01
lilsteviethat take up the first 0x3800000012:01
infinityI'd like to fast forward ~5 year to when most ARM devices boot with a sane and standardised method.12:02
lilstevieyeah12:02
infinitys/year/years/12:02
lilstevieI actually am an advocate for standardising the boot process on arm12:02
infinityI think almost everyone is.12:03
infinityBut getting people to agree on what should be the standard has been a nightmare.12:03
lilstevieI am also wanting to have a minimal kernel core12:03
infinityOddly enough, I think our largest competitor may help a lot there.12:03
infinityCause Microsoft (quite rightly, and I wish we had the balls to do this) just refuses to work with people who don't all boot shit the same way.12:03
lilsteviethat gives us room for a reasonably large kernel but most of it being modular12:03
lilstevieyeah12:03
lilstevietbh I would be happy even if it were u-boot12:04
infinityI'd die laughing if uBoot became the standard first-stage BIOS/firmware that chained into Windows8 on ARM.12:05
infinityGiven that uBoot is 95% cargo-culted linux kernel code.12:05
lilstevieheh12:05
lilsteviewell I know come win8 it will be UEFI12:05
lilsteviebut that is not going to be feasable for current devices12:05
IamTryinglilstevie, i did by following the screen it was saying what you mentioned. But after that now i have this screen nothing happening: http://i.imgur.com/xzy6n.png12:05
infinityWell, yes, but UEFI is a spec, not an implementation.  What actually implements it is still up in the air.12:06
lilstevieIamTrying: just wait a moment with that, it is resizing the filesystem to fit the partition12:06
lilstevieinfinity: heh12:06
IamTryingWOW, lilstevie yea it works, thanks a lot Guru.12:08
lilstevieinfinity: anyway, I would like to see a universal arm kernel12:13
lilsteviefor more than just tegra2 as well12:13
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infinityThat's much further down the road.12:13
lilstevieyeah of course12:13
infinityBut ACPI and/or DT will get us there some day.12:13
lilsteviesolving just one cpu type is going to be enough12:14
IamTryingI do not have Keyboard, for this Device. Is there any way System configuration i can skip my username/password i can not type, and its not showing any virtual keyboard.12:15
lilstevieIamTrying: there is an option for that12:16
IamTryingI mean here: http://i.imgur.com/Imqim.png12:16
lilsteviein the menu12:16
lilstevieyeah as I said12:17
lilsteviemenu option in OLiFE12:17
lilstevieactivates onscreen keyboard via usb12:17
IamTryingAha, wow i must have to, is this in the OLiFE.sh?12:18
lilstevieyes12:18
IamTryingOh yea got it12:18
IamTryingThanks got it. 1) https://gist.github.com/1397487 2) http://i.imgur.com/enL8j.png12:20
lilsteviejust don't disconnect until you have finished initial setup12:23
IamTryingSure, Touch keyboard is it normal? When i press wireless password: 14788 it just keeps one typing more12:24
IamTryings/one/on12:24
lilstevieldm and unity allow you to invoke it, but ubiquity doesn't12:24
lilstevieum, yea I have noticed that, I don't know why it happens12:25
IamTryingMaybe because i made the keyboard bigger? My finger is large and the default layout was very tiny.12:25
lilstevieno, it is random, no matter what size the keyboard is12:26
lilstevieI personally do not undock my tf10112:26
IamTryingThis is horrible keyboard. I am typing username: sun and its typing suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu12:27
lilstevieyeah it happens sometimes12:27
lilstevieinfinity: actaully the other thing I wouldn't mind setting up is a preinstall image like what panda and beagle have, but for tegra12:28
IamTryingAfter installation. 1) ./adb shell 2) export DISPLAY=:0.0 && xterm ;  does not open anything is it normal?13:00
IamTrying"xterm Xt error: Can't open display: %s"13:00
IamTryingOk it works, i needed to su s13:01
lilsteviewhy would you need to do that?13:03
lilstevieyou can launch onboard from unity13:04
IamTryinglilstevie, i am searching a keyboard lol i dont find anymore and OLiFE is not after installation not loading that virtual keyboard.13:04
lilstevieit is called onboard13:05
IamTryingAha wow its there, thank you.13:05
IamTryingIt is almost impossible to use onboard to put the password for my Wifi: 14788. Is there any command line way i can configure this? I still can not make the internet connection because of the onBoad is randomly putting invalid numbers.13:20
IamTryingThis is second boot and now its not booting anymore e.g: http://i.imgur.com/SURhE.png18:38
IamTryingHow to resolve this?18:38
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