| MartijnVdS | but it works! | 00:35 |
|---|---|---|
| ubuntubhoy | Calibre is a full featured mammoth of an app | 01:13 |
| jacobw | uupc talked to the creator of calibre a couple of series past | 01:21 |
| jacobw | missing private messages is a serious disadvantage of irssi+screen | 01:40 |
| * jacobw investigates fnotify | 01:40 | |
| danfish | morning - happy Morris Dancing day all! | 08:16 |
| MartijnVdS | jacobw: it shows red numbers in the status bar | 08:25 |
| MartijnVdS | jacobw: how can you miss those? | 08:25 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| cliftonts | Morning all | 08:56 |
| MartijnVdS | \o | 08:56 |
| MooDoo | morning all | 08:59 |
| MartijnVdS | Moo | 09:12 |
| cliftonts | just the 3 of us then is it? | 09:12 |
| MooDoo | for the moment :), i'm at work | 09:13 |
| cliftonts | Me too | 09:13 |
| MooDoo | cliftonts: what you do for a living? | 09:14 |
| cliftonts | I sell linux systems at computer fairs | 09:14 |
| MooDoo | awesome :) | 09:14 |
| MooDoo | cliftonts: how is it going? | 09:14 |
| cliftonts | first one today actually | 09:14 |
| cliftonts | so ask me at about 5pm lol | 09:15 |
| MooDoo | roger will do :) have fun :) | 09:15 |
| cliftonts | I'm in Tolworth, Surrey today | 09:15 |
| danfish | ah Tolworth - gateway to Surbiton ;) | 09:28 |
| MartijnVdS | suborbiton? | 09:32 |
| danfish | MartijnVdS: something like that | 09:35 |
| MartijnVdS | danfish: It would be great name for the first British space station ;) | 09:36 |
| danfish | MartijnVdS: true. There was a British space program once...was actually quite promising and relatively cheap | 09:43 |
| MooDoo | i thought there was a british space program of sorts.... | 09:44 |
| MartijnVdS | Isn't it all part of ESA now? | 09:44 |
| danfish | MooDoo: yes - a chap in Guildford called Kevin with an arduino strapped to a large firework :P | 09:45 |
| MooDoo | hehe | 09:45 |
| MooDoo | hmmmm i think i want to do a documentary or write a book on the ubuntu story ...hmmmmmmm | 09:47 |
| occupy64k | Ubuntu: the musical | 09:47 |
| MooDoo | lol never thought of it that way | 09:48 |
| occupy64k | there is the Jono guitar connection | 09:49 |
| MartijnVdS | there's the post-UDS karaoke nights.. | 09:49 |
| MartijnVdS | well not really karaoke | 09:49 |
| occupy64k | heh | 09:49 |
| MartijnVdS | more "UDS All-Stars" | 09:49 |
| MooDoo | i'll think about it....i have a few ideas | 09:50 |
| MartijnVdS | MooDoo: time to open up an etherpad document | 09:55 |
| MooDoo | hay yeah good idea! | 09:58 |
| MooDoo | does ubuntu-uk have one? | 09:58 |
| MartijnVdS | MooDoo: http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/ ? | 10:03 |
| MooDoo | that's the one. | 10:03 |
| pr0ph3t | hi all | 10:09 |
| pr0ph3t | has anybody got the Embedded Intel GMA X4500MHD graphics card? I have it but when I try to watch 1080p movies at 1920 x 1080 resolution with HDMI cable connected to my TV on Ubuntu the laptop struggles and the video stutters | 10:11 |
| pr0ph3t | if I watch it on Windows unfortunately it's very smooth instead | 10:12 |
| MartijnVdS | pr0ph3t: If you use vlc, and install i965-va-driver and select "Yes, I want hardware acceleration" in the VLC preferences, it should go better | 10:13 |
| pr0ph3t | MartijnVdS, I'll try that | 10:14 |
| MartijnVdS | pr0ph3t: it's in preferences -> (all options, at the bottom) -> codecs -> video codecs -> ffmpeg -> "Hardware decoding" | 10:14 |
| MartijnVdS | pr0ph3t: if you install "vainfo" you can see if the library works on your chip | 10:14 |
| MartijnVdS | there are also va-api drivers for NVidia and ATi | 10:18 |
| pr0ph3t | I wish I had one of those MartijnVdS, thanks by the way, I'm going to try it now | 10:18 |
| MartijnVdS | nah hardware h264/mpeg2 decoding will help LOTS | 10:19 |
| popey | fluendo have a vaapi driver for intel, nvidia and ati, all in one. | 10:27 |
| popey | its pay for and in the software centre i believe | 10:27 |
| popey | (morning btw) | 10:27 |
| pr0ph3t | morning popey | 10:34 |
| MooDoo | http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/okvBziSjFX - thinking about having a go at something | 10:35 |
| pr0ph3t | MartijnVdS, what it does is it freezes on a frame occasionally and it starts again after a while blurring the image for a few seconds, do I need to boot maybe to see the difference? | 10:35 |
| MartijnVdS | pr0ph3t: shouldn't need to | 10:39 |
| MooDoo | what a bloody day | 10:39 |
| MartijnVdS | pr0ph3t: is the file corrupted? | 10:39 |
| MartijnVdS | pr0ph3t: what does vainfo say? | 10:39 |
| pr0ph3t | there are so many options there though, the file is a 1080p MKV extension x264 video and AC3 sound and DTS which I do not know what it is | 10:39 |
| MartijnVdS | pr0ph3t: as long as the video is h264 (=x264), the hardware video decoder should kick in (if you've set the option in the FFMPeg preference screen in vlc | 10:40 |
| MartijnVdS | again, vainfo? :) | 10:40 |
| pr0ph3t | MartijnVdS, vainfo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/751261/ | 10:41 |
| MartijnVdS | pr0ph3t: seems like your hardware only supports hardware-decoding of MPEG-2 | 10:42 |
| MartijnVdS | not h264 | 10:42 |
| MartijnVdS | pr0ph3t: this is mine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/751262/ | 10:42 |
| MartijnVdS | "Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) Clarkdale" | 10:43 |
| pr0ph3t | MartijnVdS, I see what you mean | 10:43 |
| pr0ph3t | what annoys me though is that in Windows it works just fine | 10:44 |
| pr0ph3t | MartijnVdS, could it be a driver problem then? | 10:45 |
| MartijnVdS | pr0ph3t: Which version of Ubuntu do you have, and can you post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log on pastebin? | 10:46 |
| pr0ph3t | MartijnVdS, 11.10 64bit running unity 3d http://paste.ubuntu.com/751265/ | 10:47 |
| MartijnVdS | [ 20.769] (II) intel(0): Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) GM45 | 10:48 |
| MartijnVdS | should support h.264 decoding in hardware... | 10:48 |
| MartijnVdS | "Yes with g45-h264 branch" | 10:48 |
| MartijnVdS | ah so it's a separate branch of the code | 10:49 |
| MartijnVdS | you'll have find a version of the i965-vaapi-driver | 10:49 |
| MartijnVdS | with h264 for 4500hd | 10:49 |
| MartijnVdS | http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libva/?h=g45-h264 | 10:52 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone. | 10:57 |
| MartijnVdS | \o | 10:57 |
| pr0ph3t | morning brobostigon | 10:57 |
| brobostigon | o/ | 10:57 |
| brobostigon | morning pr0ph3t | 10:57 |
| pr0ph3t | MartijnVdS, I guess that is the module I need to compile but I'm confused about which one :S | 10:58 |
| pr0ph3t | this? libva-g45-h264.tar.bz2 | 10:59 |
| MartijnVdS | pr0ph3t: I don't know, probably.. but you'd have to compile, etc. | 11:00 |
| MartijnVdS | and then it won't be packaged | 11:00 |
| MooDoo | how is everyone this morning? | 11:00 |
| pr0ph3t | MartijnVdS, It's ok if I have to compile it | 11:01 |
| pr0ph3t | MooDoo, I'm better than I was yesterday thank MooDoo and you? | 11:01 |
| MartijnVdS | pr0ph3t: I'd start with apt-get build-dep [name of va-driver-i965 package] | 11:01 |
| MartijnVdS | also, file a bug in launchpad abotu having to do this | 11:02 |
| pr0ph3t | ok | 11:02 |
| MooDoo | pr0ph3t: terrible day at work so far | 11:02 |
| pr0ph3t | sorry to hear that MooDoo but then again I've never heard anyone saying "wonderful day today at work!" | 11:05 |
| MartijnVdS | gaaf | 11:05 |
| MooDoo | pr0ph3t: :) | 11:06 |
| jacobw | morning | 11:25 |
| brobostigon | morning jacobw and MooDoo | 11:25 |
| jacobw | hey brobostigon | 11:26 |
| jacobw | how do you do? | 11:26 |
| MooDoo | brobostigon: howdo | 11:26 |
| brobostigon | jacobw: MooDoo: not bad, alittle cold, otherwise fine. and you? | 11:26 |
| MooDoo | brobostigon: stressful day at work so far, but thinking about a little ubuntu project, might come to nothing though | 11:28 |
| brobostigon | MooDoo: i hope it comes to something, it might help relieve some stress. | 11:29 |
| MooDoo | brobostigon: new job would be good for that :) lol | 11:29 |
| brobostigon | MooDoo: ah, that isnt so easy to solve. | 11:30 |
| MooDoo | brobostigon: not really, unless i setup something myself | 11:30 |
| brobostigon | MooDoo: good point, yes, :) | 11:30 |
| AlanBell | popey: http://www.waverley.gov.uk/news/article/669/cut_down_your_own_christmas_tree | 11:42 |
| popey | 17/18 dec is a _touch_ late | 11:42 |
| AlanBell | it is | 11:42 |
| AlanBell | but it is good fun, I will probably do that again this year | 11:43 |
| Myrtti | late? | 11:47 |
| Myrtti | in Finland the tree is brought in on Christmas eve, and it stays in until 6th or 13th of Jan, unless people chuck it out at New Years | 11:47 |
| popey | we tend to bring one in at the start of december | 11:48 |
| Myrtti | yeah, you people are weird :-P | 11:48 |
| popey | hah | 11:48 |
| Myrtti | that fact was established loooooong time ago :-P | 11:48 |
| MooDoo | my neighbour has had their decorations up a week already :S | 11:49 |
| Myrtti | oh man, I wonder should I do an Amazon wishlist | 11:50 |
| Myrtti | was looking at some books at the trainstation bookshop but couldn't bring myself to buy them | 11:50 |
| Rolka | Rolka | 11:51 |
| Myrtti | popey: ahahah, Target in US apparently sells/sold Honeybadger t-shirts | 11:59 |
| Myrtti | "honey badger vs cobra" at the top, a picture of the two then "honey badger don't care" underneath | 11:59 |
| popey | Myrtti: My amazon wishlist is often used by my family when they cant figure out what to get me | 11:59 |
| MartijnVdS | I can't get my family to go to amazon :| | 12:00 |
| Myrtti | popey: it's a bit different here, people in general don't use amazon... if I make an Amazon wishlist it's only for the UK contingent of my ackquaintances | 12:00 |
| Myrtti | I will sell my sister in Finnish equivalent of ebay if I get a new bottle of bath foam or moisturiser for Christmas | 12:01 |
| dwatkins | MartijnVdS: print it out? ;) | 12:07 |
| pr0ph3t | MartijnVdS, how do I change from GPU to CPU decoding in VLC? | 12:21 |
| MartijnVdS | pr0ph3t: turn off the "Hardware acceleration" flag in the Video codecs -> FFMpeg prefefence | 12:30 |
| pr0ph3t | MartijnVdS, do you mean the Hardware Decoding we added before? | 12:31 |
| MartijnVdS | yes | 12:44 |
| MartijnVdS | hardware = gpu, software = cpu decoding :) | 12:44 |
| SuprEngr | o/ [bed late last night - up late today - chip butty on the way for breakfast - nom nom] | 12:47 |
| * SuprEngr castigates self for own lifestyle | 12:49 | |
| RossDoughty | Hello all. | 12:49 |
| MooDoo | SuprEngr: :P :P RossDoughty hello :) | 12:49 |
| RossDoughty | Hey :) | 12:49 |
| SuprEngr | hi MooDoo | 12:50 |
| SuprEngr | & hi 2u RossDoughty | 12:53 |
| RossDoughty | Hey SuprEngr | 12:53 |
| SuprEngr | oooh! naughty BBC News - Prince *of* Wales now apparently known as "Prince Wales" - that'll displease some I know | 12:55 |
| RossDoughty | Haha | 12:55 |
| SuprEngr | Any advice on sensors-applet in 10.04? I now want it to monitor HDD temps but can't remember the requirement to enable this. | 13:01 |
| === monsterwizard is now known as colavottle | ||
| SuprEngr | [installed it a while back -it said something like 'to enable this later use dpkg-configure....???] | 13:02 |
| === colavottle is now known as colacan | ||
| SuprEngr | [& hdd temp is already installed... disk utility reports temps so theoretically - all ok?] | 13:05 |
| SuprEngr | sorry for immediate quit then -had an unknown/unwanted & uninvited 'server' suddenly appear | 13:39 |
| SuprEngr | hmm... chkrootkit & rkhunter show no probs. has freenode been hacked ? | 13:47 |
| MooDoo | i wouldn't of thought so | 13:48 |
| SuprEngr | me to - but the sudden appearance of a nasty & uninvited server/channel worries me. | 13:49 |
| SuprEngr | [I would give it's name but that's probably it's intent! | 13:50 |
| penguin42 | how do you mean a server appearing? | 13:55 |
| SuprEngr | did a whois - result - "unknown server" | 13:55 |
| penguin42 | a whois on what | 13:56 |
| penguin42 | oh, on here - hmm not sure where that comes from | 13:56 |
| SuprEngr | just 1 channel - a link to something [guessing from name] that I won't mention here | 13:56 |
| SuprEngr | either way - since closing channel and restart - no reappearance | 13:59 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| Azelphur | lol I think something is memory leaking on my machine, I'm apparently using 9GB of ram \o/ | 15:36 |
| Azelphur | ah, chrome using 4.3GB ram | 15:37 |
| Azelphur | so much for being light xD | 15:38 |
| popey | yeah, I get that a lot on my machine | 15:38 |
| popey | switched to ff for some stuff | 15:38 |
| popey | on my arm laptop I use firefox instead of chrome for this reason | 15:38 |
| Azelphur | fun | 15:38 |
| brobostigon | i dont remember seeing a arm/linuc chrome build. | 15:39 |
| brobostigon | arm/linux* | 15:39 |
| popey | well, chromium | 15:44 |
| brobostigon | :) | 15:44 |
| popey | i dont see why chrome can't be built for arm/linux | 15:46 |
| popey | especially given Google plan to make arm based chromebooks AIUI | 15:46 |
| brobostigon | i agree, yes. | 15:46 |
| penguin42 | popey: Indeed it's got a chromium armel deb in: http://ports.ubuntu.com/pool/main/c/chromium-browser/ | 15:50 |
| popey | indeed, I'm running it here ☺ | 15:51 |
| penguin42 | I know there were some ftbfs bugs on and off with it on arm; it's a pain to debug since the link takes ages | 15:51 |
| nigelb | hello UK! | 15:57 |
| popey | hello nigelb | 15:57 |
| nigelb | hey popey :) | 15:57 |
| nigelb | Yeah, FF is getting better. | 15:57 |
| Laney | nigelb in the UK! | 16:00 |
| nigelb | Laney: hah | 16:00 |
| popey | Vroom | 16:00 |
| nigelb | Hrm, I *may* be in UK early next year. | 16:01 |
| popey | whereabouts? | 16:01 |
| nigelb | Unsure yet. | 16:01 |
| nigelb | Probably around London though. | 16:01 |
| Laney | naaaahhh | 16:03 |
| nigelb | UK Visa looks like a world of pain though :P | 16:04 |
| gord | i swear, every router has a built in function to die after a few months =\ | 16:04 |
| * Laney eyes the years old WRT54G across the room | 16:04 | |
| nigelb | heh | 16:04 |
| * popey hugs his netgear wndr3700 | 16:04 | |
| gord | mine just randomly doesn't let some things make connections now until i reboot it.. its weird, steam won't connect right now. sometimes mumble. sometimes email | 16:06 |
| ali1234 | sounds like the ip_conntrack "bug" | 16:06 |
| * Nafallo shrugs | 16:06 | |
| Nafallo | my stuff works ;-) | 16:07 |
| Nafallo | various versions of WRTs, running dd-wrt or tomato. | 16:07 |
| nigelb | My router has been working for 2 years on stock firmware. | 16:07 |
| nigelb | it does die occasionally. | 16:07 |
| nigelb | But a restart fixes it. | 16:08 |
| Nafallo | mine died ~2w ago. I just changing power strip. | 16:08 |
| Nafallo | s/just/was/ | 16:08 |
| nigelb | Ouch. | 16:08 |
| Nafallo | no no. it's better now. the big one on the sofa where I use most of my devices and external hard drives :-) | 16:09 |
| Nafallo | and two slots spare on the UK one in the bedroom/ | 16:09 |
| pikaciu | hi there | 16:21 |
| daubers | Evening | 16:30 |
| penguin42 | I guess it is | 16:31 |
| Darael | It certainly is here. In fact, perhaps I should go and hang about in #ubuntu-in for the next six months... | 16:31 |
| penguin42 | you mean somewhere warmer? | 16:32 |
| Darael | India certainly /is/ warmer, but I was meaning that since I'm not currently /in/ the UK, perhaps I should go and visit the channel for a more appropriate LoCo. | 16:32 |
| daubers | my local loco is ubuntu-mars | 16:34 |
| penguin42 | daubers: Well, I guess someone had to be the onsite support guy for that rover | 16:34 |
| daubers | Yup, talk about a long commute! | 16:35 |
| daubers | 158 million miles each day certainly does eat the old diesel | 16:36 |
| penguin42 | yeh, especially when you remember you left the screwdriver at home | 16:37 |
| Myrtti | ahahahhahaha | 16:47 |
| Myrtti | FACT: Cottage cheese is actually minced meat of moomins | 16:48 |
| matti | ? | 16:54 |
| Nafallo | hahaha | 16:55 |
| matti | #notthatfunny | 16:55 |
| Nafallo | hilarious! :-D | 16:55 |
| matti | Not really :-) | 16:56 |
| matti | Unless you are 5 year old ;) | 16:56 |
| Nafallo | you might have to grow up with the finnish speaking moomins to get it ;-) | 16:56 |
| Nafallo | like I did | 16:56 |
| matti | Ah. | 16:56 |
| matti | Thank God I did not ;) | 16:56 |
| Nafallo | I can't stop giggling... | 16:57 |
| Nafallo | damn it Myrtti, did you have to :-P | 16:57 |
| matti | Enjoy yourself ;) | 16:57 |
| Nafallo | well, it's better than drooling for the food I just ordered :-) | 16:58 |
| MooDoo | moomintroll :D | 16:58 |
| MooDoo | the only proper moomins were the fuzzy felt moomins, none of this cartoony rubbish :D | 16:58 |
| Nafallo | hrm. actually, it was Swedish with Finnish accents. | 16:59 |
| Myrtti | Nafallo: I just saw a picture in Facebook or somewhere about a Swedish shop freezer bin with a sign "Moominfärs 6,96kr/kg" or something | 16:59 |
| Myrtti | I just can't find it anymore | 16:59 |
| Nafallo | Myrtti: share it on my wall when you do :-) | 16:59 |
| Nafallo | Myrtti: that way my mum will see it ;-) | 16:59 |
| matti | Heh ;) | 16:59 |
| matti | You guys are weird ;) | 17:00 |
| MooDoo | matti: and that surprises you why? ;)9 | 17:00 |
| MooDoo | ;) | 17:00 |
| matti | Good point. | 17:00 |
| matti | ;) | 17:00 |
| Nafallo | I should have awesome food in 50mins! | 17:01 |
| Nafallo | omnomnom | 17:01 |
| Nafallo | this is a good reason to open a bottle of wine :-) | 17:01 |
| matti | Deep fried mooins I presume ;) | 17:02 |
| Nafallo | crispy duck rolls, crispy seaweed, singapore style noodles and honeycomb ice cream | 17:03 |
| matti | Sounds nice ;( | 17:03 |
| matti | Ops. | 17:03 |
| matti | ;) | 17:04 |
| Nafallo | you're not supposed to be sorry about that indeed ;--) | 17:04 |
| * penguin42 wonders what makes a noodle singapore style | 17:04 | |
| Nafallo | s/\-\-/\-/ | 17:04 |
| Nafallo | a combination of meat, shrimps, vegetables and spices | 17:04 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| Nafallo | all kinds of meat! | 17:04 |
| Myrtti | I just had my most marvelous vegan stew | 17:05 |
| Myrtti | and I'm not a vegan, I'm just boring | 17:05 |
| Nafallo | I'm a little addicted to it though. I think I've ordered the same the last 10 times I've ordered from Noodle St. :-P | 17:05 |
| Nafallo | Myrtti: are you sure it was vegan? | 17:05 |
| * brobostigon has no idea, what he is doing for tea. | 17:06 | |
| Myrtti | Nafallo: I made it from scratch myself so yes | 17:06 |
| Nafallo | I don't think moomins counts as vegan... | 17:06 |
| Myrtti | mirepoix, tomatos and lentils | 17:06 |
| Nafallo | hmm. french. | 17:07 |
| Nafallo | just like my red wine. | 17:08 |
| Nafallo | omnomnom | 17:08 |
| Myrtti | Nafallo: celery, carrot and onion basically, tossed in a pan in oil | 17:10 |
| Nafallo | Myrtti: yeah. wikipedia told me :-) | 17:10 |
| Myrtti | Hairy Bikers told me | 17:11 |
| Nafallo | right | 17:13 |
| * Nafallo backs off | 17:13 | |
| Nafallo | hrm | 17:13 |
| Nafallo | actualy. they wouldn't harm me. I'm hairy too! | 17:14 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | brobostigon: you should have a minute's silence before tea for Speedy. | 17:27 |
| brobostigon | MarquessDeBonBon: huh ? | 17:27 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | GARY SPEED IS DEAD | 17:27 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | Watch the news you insensitive clod. | 17:27 |
| brobostigon | who is he? | 17:27 |
| AlanBell | who? | 17:27 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | You're all insensitive bastards. | 17:27 |
| MooDoo | some footy player | 17:27 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | AlanBell, you call yourself Welsh. | 17:27 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | Yet you don't know who Gary Speed is? | 17:28 |
| AlanBell | MarquessDeBonBon: no, I don't | 17:28 |
| MooDoo | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Speed | 17:28 |
| jacobw | real welsh play rugby :| | 17:28 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15908380.stm | 17:28 |
| Nafallo | !speed | 17:30 |
| Nafallo | DOH | 17:31 |
| Nafallo | thanks lubotu3` | 17:31 |
| MooDoo | i guess lubotu3 doesn't care about football either :D | 17:31 |
| MooDoo | later all | 17:32 |
| Nafallo | very wise | 17:34 |
| * AlanBell gets a mention on the Shuttleworth blog | 17:43 | |
| penguin42 | cor - what did you do? | 17:45 |
| brobostigon | :) | 17:45 |
| AlanBell | http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/918 | 17:45 |
| AlanBell | I was trying to give the Ubuntu on TV project a bit of guidance in how to share design sketches | 17:46 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | AlanBell, congratulations are in order. | 17:46 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | You're now the most famous of us all. | 17:47 |
| jacobw | AlanBell: do you think performance issues with the architecture of unity, i.e. compiz will hinder integration with high performance televisions? | 18:29 |
| AlanBell | no | 18:29 |
| AlanBell | for multiple reasons | 18:30 |
| AlanBell | firstly, it performs fine | 18:30 |
| AlanBell | secondly the TV thing will brobably be Qt/QML based or possibly xbmc based or possibly something different, probably nothing to do with compiz either way | 18:30 |
| danfish | AlanBell: I hear there's a debian/xbmc project along those lines for the Raspberry Pi | 18:32 |
| Myrtti | wohoo sleet | 18:33 |
| AlanBell | danfish: interesting stuff | 18:35 |
| * AlanBell wants a Raspberry Pi | 18:35 | |
| * danfish wants a number of them :) | 18:36 | |
| danfish | I think my arduino collection will find it's way into a dark cupboard | 18:37 |
| jacobw | Qt5 will run on Raspberry Pi | 18:37 |
| jacobw | 'Qt Pi' :D | 18:37 |
| penguin42 | jacobw: Have you seen the insane amount of whizzy graphics on some new TVs - frankly unity is fast compared to one of my TVs | 18:39 |
| jacobw | penguin42: i must admit i'm not so well informed on the new developments of smart/connected TV | 18:39 |
| penguin42 | jacobw: Our Sony bravia's take about 30s to boot and have shaded overlays with things that scroll round to choose different devices etc etc | 18:40 |
| penguin42 | jacobw: They're Linux based (not sure what else is in there), Panasonic ones seem to run FreeBSD | 18:40 |
| AlanBell | sky+ boxes run linux | 18:40 |
| danfish | penguin42: I used to have a media PC under the TV, but with the new one it has a rather good dlna client | 18:40 |
| AlanBell | they did an over-the-air reflash from BSD to linux | 18:41 |
| danfish | AlanBell: a very brave move by Sky! | 18:41 |
| * AlanBell would not have wanted to be the person pressing the release button on that one | 18:41 | |
| iswan | new user? | 18:41 |
| penguin42 | AlanBell: I guess if they do whole image reflashes for updates anyway then it might be no different; still I wonder how they made the GPL offer during the upgrade | 18:42 |
| danfish | AlanBell: I hope he/she got a very nice bonus (and a healthy supply of valium!) | 18:42 |
| jacobw | welcome iswan :) | 18:44 |
| AlanBell | penguin42: the GPL is in the settings area | 18:44 |
| AlanBell | you don't need to accept the GPL, it isn't an EULA | 18:44 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | Does Sky+ let you export recordings to USB storage? | 18:47 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | It should do this. | 18:47 |
| penguin42 | AlanBell: Ah true I guess | 18:47 |
| penguin42 | AlanBell: My Bravia TV came with almost no paper docs, except for 1) A diagram showing you which button on the remote to get the docs and 2) A copy of the GPL and a few other licenses | 18:48 |
| Myrtti | Nafallo: found it :-D | 19:03 |
| Nafallo | Myrtti: HAHAHA | 19:10 |
| AlanBell | MarquessDeBonBon: no, pretty sure it does not | 19:19 |
| * penguin42 wonders if MS purposely get MS Visual studio ads on pages about Android dev | 19:40 | |
| ali1234 | of course they do | 19:46 |
| ali1234 | but what MS doesn't realise is they can have the best development tools and the best OS but it won't matter at all if nobody trusts them | 19:47 |
| tombrough | Visual Studio is a good development suite ? | 19:55 |
| ali1234 | it beats the hell out of eclipse | 19:57 |
| * AlanBell uses gedit | 19:58 | |
| ali1234 | i dislike languages that all but require the use of a complex IDE, which is why i don't often write code in java or .net | 19:59 |
| ali1234 | have you ever tried to develop a java app from scratch using only gedit and command line compilers? | 20:00 |
| ali1234 | if you make a new project in eclipse, you can't build it without eclipse | 20:01 |
| ali1234 | cos all you get is an xml file that is processed by some eclipse plugin | 20:01 |
| AlanBell | yeah, nasty | 20:09 |
| popey | evening | 20:09 |
| AlanBell | I only tend to modify bits of things, so I edit one file at a time typically | 20:09 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 20:10 |
| czajkowski | interesting light display going on millbank tower this evening | 20:10 |
| AlanBell | I don't do major dev projects any more, when I did it was on Lotus Notes so that was an integrated (and rubbish) IDE anyway | 20:10 |
| jacobw | an integrated integrated development environment? | 20:11 |
| zleap | hi | 20:11 |
| tombrough | I suppose that might be true that "it beats the hell out off Eclipse" but I don't think I would trust the MS compliers and linkers like I trust GNU. | 20:11 |
| * daubers is very confused by house buying | 20:11 | |
| tombrough | buy a tent ... | 20:12 |
| tombrough | much less inheritance tax on a tent. | 20:12 |
| Darael | tombrough, daubers: uh... yurt++? | 20:12 |
| zleap | hey tom | 20:12 |
| tombrough | hi zleap | 20:12 |
| daubers | Looked at a house twice over the weekend, was almost ready to put down a deposit, looked at the crime statistics, now really not sure, but the more you look at crime statistics the more you realise that EVERYWHERE is crap | 20:13 |
| zleap | long time no see / chat | 20:13 |
| czajkowski | hmmm cannot see what signs are being displayed on millbank | 20:13 |
| czajkowski | most annoying | 20:13 |
| czajkowski | but going on for the last hour | 20:13 |
| zleap | i am looking for a box thing so I can plug an internal dvd drive into a emachines 1401, (no dvd drive built in) | 20:13 |
| zleap | i don't know wjhat to search for on ebuyer | 20:14 |
| tombrough | yeah been busy getting my head around Oracle's (very broken) Xen Management system | 20:14 |
| zleap | ah | 20:14 |
| zleap | you have been working on that for months | 20:14 |
| tombrough | I wanted to buy some "peace and goodwill" for this Christmas but I couldn't find it in any shops. :-( | 20:15 |
| zleap | aww | 20:15 |
| zleap | anyway any suggestions in to plugging in a internal cd drive thing into a box then inot a pc | 20:15 |
| zleap | i can buy external dvd-rw drives, however i have a few internal ones lying around so if i can make use of those first i will | 20:16 |
| zleap | you cando this with hard disks, so i assume its the same for optical devices | 20:16 |
| tombrough | usb to ide converter ? | 20:17 |
| zleap | yeah | 20:17 |
| zleap | but is it possible to have it so i put the dvd drive in a casing too | 20:17 |
| zleap | looks nicer | 20:17 |
| tombrough | used to be possible to get cases but Im not sure if thats true these days. | 20:18 |
| zleap | ok | 20:18 |
| zleap | maybe its easier to just spend <25 quid on an external dvd drive | 20:18 |
| zleap | i can use it for the netbook then too | 20:18 |
| popey | czajkowski: its microsoft/nokia | 20:18 |
| popey | I believe | 20:18 |
| popey | probably a rehearsal for tomorrow nights launch | 20:19 |
| popey | http://wmpoweruser.com/nokia-to-take-on-millbank-tower-in-london-to-promote-lumia-devices/ | 20:19 |
| czajkowski | popey: ahhhh | 20:20 |
| * czajkowski didnt realise she could see millbank from the couch | 20:20 | |
| czajkowski | always looked right and saw the eye never looked left to millbank | 20:20 |
| popey | wonder if Canonical will do anything to help nokia celebrate | 20:21 |
| AlanBell | cool, those building 3d projection show things are amazing | 20:22 |
| czajkowski | ohhh video on now | 20:22 |
| czajkowski | deadly | 20:22 |
| czajkowski | popey: it would help if canonical turned off the light on their floor | 20:23 |
| czajkowski | fecking the display up | 20:23 |
| popey | they have to | 20:23 |
| popey | the whole building has to switch off lights | 20:23 |
| popey | for the display to work | 20:23 |
| Nafallo | czajkowski: well, ms/nokia obviously doesn't know their own schedule ;-) | 20:23 |
| czajkowski | popey: ahh ok well most of the lgiths are on tonight | 20:23 |
| popey | yeah, because they weren't told to turn off tonight | 20:24 |
| popey | its rehearsal | 20:24 |
| czajkowski | gotcha | 20:24 |
| czajkowski | it's really good actually | 20:24 |
| popey | deadmau5 will be there | 20:24 |
| popey | as will some celebs | 20:24 |
| Nafallo | popey: you sure they are not following time.microsoft.com or something? :-p | 20:24 |
| popey | haha | 20:24 |
| czajkowski | http://glow-london.blogspot.com/2011/11/glow-on-november-28th.html | 20:24 |
| czajkowski | maybe we can move the GLOW event to Millbank :) | 20:25 |
| czajkowski | who's deadma5u5 | 20:25 |
| popey | 20:25 | |
| ali1234 | he's the guy that made that song that is used when youtube detects copyright infringement on your audio track | 20:26 |
| ali1234 | you know that really annoying one that is on all videos ever | 20:26 |
| popey | probably would if I heard it | 20:26 |
| ali1234 | you have | 20:26 |
| popey | doesn't spring to mind ho | 20:26 |
| popey | ☺ | 20:26 |
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| ali1234 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfgc4i7W-68 | 20:27 |
| AlanBell | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm1CvO1IQxY | 20:28 |
| nigelb | Did popey just add a snowman to the /topic? :) | 20:37 |
| popey | yes | 20:37 |
| nigelb | Nice! | 20:37 |
| gord | i'm on windows so i can't see it :( | 20:37 |
| * nigelb banishes gord | 20:38 | |
| nigelb | ;) | 20:38 |
| nigelb | But wait, you can install the Ubuntu font in Windows right? | 20:38 |
| nigelb | UbuntuMono should let you see it. | 20:39 |
| gord | i am using ubuntu, windows is just crap with unicode at the best of times | 20:40 |
| nigelb | ah, heh. | 20:41 |
| nigelb | Hrm, this thunderbird compiling is going to take a few hours at the least. | 20:43 |
| AlanBell | nigelb: do you know how to launch a .xpi from firefox instead of xulrunner? | 21:06 |
| AlanBell | expanding the xpi http://pencil.evolus.vn/en-US/Home.aspx and running firefox --app application.ini doesn't seem to do anything | 21:07 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: is it an extension? | 21:28 |
| AlanBell | yes | 21:28 |
| nigelb | go to about:addons and click the button right next to the search on top right and say "Install Add-on from file" | 21:29 |
| nigelb | That should let you install it. | 21:29 |
| AlanBell | yeah, I know how to install it | 21:29 |
| AlanBell | it is great | 21:29 |
| nigelb | Ah, you want it to be associated with firefox? | 21:29 |
| nigelb | instead of archive thing? | 21:30 |
| AlanBell | it would be nice to have it independently launchable | 21:30 |
| nigelb | Because xpi is essentially a compression format, Ubuntu gets archive manager associted with it. | 21:30 |
| AlanBell | it really is very little to do with Firefox, it just happens to be based on xul | 21:30 |
| AlanBell | but we have no xulrunner any more | 21:31 |
| nigelb | Oh. | 21:31 |
| nigelb | That I did not know. | 21:31 |
| nigelb | I don't use firefox from packages these days. | 21:31 |
| AlanBell | because the mozilla release schedule is so fast xulrunner got dropped | 21:31 |
| AlanBell | in theory you can use "firefox --app" instead of xulrunner | 21:32 |
| popey | --app doesnt show up in firefox --help | 21:34 |
| AlanBell | single - | 21:37 |
| AlanBell | http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2007/08/firefox-3-xul-application-runtime/ | 21:37 |
| AlanBell | firefox -app flibble | 21:38 |
| AlanBell | application.ini path not recognized: 'flibble' | 21:38 |
| popey | either way it doesnt show up | 21:38 |
| AlanBell | it is doing *something* and is looking for an application.ini | 21:38 |
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| cliftonts | Hi all | 22:13 |
| cliftonts | MooDoo: u there? | 22:13 |
| cliftonts | ok, is anybody there? | 22:16 |
| popey | yes | 22:20 |
| cliftonts | wow! life! | 22:20 |
| cliftonts | how's it going? | 22:20 |
| cliftonts | I assume that means IRC servers? | 22:36 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [oimon] When good disks go bad - http://oimon.wordpress.com/2011/11/27/when-good-disks-go-bad/ | 23:02 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | "Store an additional copy on a trusted cloud provider e.g. ubuntu one/amazon s3/dropbox (decide whether to encrypt or not)" lol Dropbox. | 23:10 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | Amazon is one of a few credible choices. | 23:10 |
| ali1234 | i have a stack of disks like that | 23:34 |
| ali1234 | no anti static bags though | 23:34 |
| ali1234 | they're just on a shelf | 23:34 |
| popey | same here | 23:37 |
| popey | including a couple of SSDs now ⍨ | 23:38 |
| hamitron | popey, you've moved onto some smiley I don't have? :/ | 23:38 |
| popey | heh, sorry | 23:39 |
| ali1234 | hmm next to the hard drives i found a bag of pogs and a box full of furry batteries | 23:47 |
| nigelb | ⍨ <-- that is a cute smiley ;) | 23:47 |
| * popey had to google pogs | 23:55 | |
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