[11:33] <inetpro> Maaz: tenet
[11:33] <Maaz> The Tertiary Education and Research Network (TENET) hosts amongst others the country mirror of the ubuntu archives. The network operations center (NOC) can be reached via email at noc@tenet.ac.za. Website: http://www.tenet.ac.za/
[11:34] <inetpro> Kerbero: ^^
[11:35] <Kerbero> ahh
[11:35] <Kerbero> nice
[11:35] <Kerbero> so are you going to email them?
[11:36] <inetpro> hmm... perhaps I should, ok
[11:36] <Kerbero> ok
[11:37] <inetpro> Kerbero: is it still out of synch?
[11:37] <Kerbero> it is dead
[11:37] <Kerbero> can wget mirror.ac.za
[11:37] <Kerbero> *can't
[11:38] <Kerbero> neither ubuntu.mirror.ac.za
[11:38] <Kerbero> and also not ping
[11:41] <inetpro> hmm... same here
[11:45] <inetpro> Kerbero: ok, I've mailed them. lets hope that at least my message will reach them
[11:45] <Kerbero> ok
[11:45] <Kerbero> thanx
[11:46] <Kerbero> interesting that nothing came through on ren-news about it
[11:47] <inetpro> Kerbero: what network do you use?
[11:47] <Kerbero> sun
[11:47] <Kerbero> sunet
[11:47] <Kerbero> :P
[11:47] <inetpro> ok
[11:47] <Kerbero> stellebosch uni
[11:47] <Kerbero> theoretically i should have a gigabit per second connection to mirror.ac.za
[11:48] <Kerbero> in practice it is more like 0.5mbps though
[11:48] <Kerbero> get 10mbps to ftp.sun
[11:48] <inetpro> yikes, from a Telkom FLLA WDCMA network I can not even reach ac.za
[11:48] <Kerbero> so i can't really complain
[11:48] <inetpro> hmm... I'm lying
[11:49] <inetpro> I can go to http://www.ac.za/
[11:49] <Kerbero> well, www.sun.ac.za should be up
[11:49] <inetpro> yeah I can go there also
[11:51] <Kerbero> if mirror is still dead by tomorrow afternoon i'll send a mail to ren-news
[14:12] <Squirm> hey guys
[14:13] <Squirm> is there something wrong with mirror.ac.za?
[14:16] <tumbleweed> looks like it
[14:22] <Squirm> bleh
[14:22] <Squirm> k
[14:23] <Squirm> just downloaded the packages I need off packages.debian.org, so no worries
[15:14] <Kilos> afternoon all
[15:14] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[15:14]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[15:18] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[15:19] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[15:19] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[15:26] <Kilos> inetpro, het jy gewen?
[15:30] <superfly> hi Kilos, inetpro
[15:30] <superfly> tumbleweed: ping
[15:31] <tumbleweed> superfly: pong
[15:31] <superfly> tumbleweed: know anything about pppd?
[15:31] <tumbleweed> a little
[15:32] <superfly> having an issue connecting using my HSDPA modem... it works in KPPP (that's how I'm connected at the moment) but using the CLI (pon and friends), I just get disconnected
[15:33] <tumbleweed> immediatly?
[15:33] <superfly> tumbleweed: when I'm connected using KPPP: http://pastebin.com/KZz08yZ3
[15:33] <superfly> yes
[15:34] <superfly> and this is using "pon hsdpa": http://pastebin.com/81Wi60hv
[15:39] <superfly> tumbleweed: this is my ppp/peers file http://pastebin.com/VcpzBtu2
[15:40] <superfly> and my chatscript, which mirrors what KPPP is doing: http://pastebin.com/9jQAjFA3
[15:41]  * tumbleweed returns from the kitchen with a cup of coffee
[15:42] <superfly> :-) good idea
[15:43] <tumbleweed> try novj
[15:44] <tumbleweed> also, internetvpn is gone
[15:44] <tumbleweed> you want to use internet, or unrestricted (which requires signing paper)
[15:45] <superfly> right
[15:46] <superfly> let's just try that
[15:47] <tumbleweed> superfly: I seem to recall you wanting to get a package into Ubuntu. This is a reminder to do something :) (although I assume you have other priorities right now...)
[15:50] <superfly> tumbleweed: yeah...
[15:50] <superfly> tumbleweed: BRILLIANT!
[15:50] <superfly> it was "internetvpn"
[15:51] <tumbleweed> :)
[16:23] <superfly> yay, we all has internets now
[16:23] <superfly> the wife is pleased
[16:25] <tumbleweed> heh
[16:29] <inetpro> Kilos; yes I won the race but I'll have to tell you later 
[16:31] <Kilos> cool
[16:32] <Kilos> im making onion puffs so be back later
[17:37] <inetpro> Kilos: I be back
[17:37] <Kilos> wb inetpro 
[17:37] <inetpro> how's uncle Kilos?
[17:38] <Kilos> had a bad ubuntu day
[17:38] <inetpro> eish, why?
[17:38] <Kilos> booted early to initramfs$
[17:39] <Kilos> tried following what i used last with live cd then mounting sda1
[17:39] <Kilos> everytime i tried to mount pc hung
[17:40] <inetpro> hmm...
[17:40] <Kilos> swopped drives and put 20g as master and tried to get onto the 80g and could see everything but when trying to mount anything pc hung
[17:40] <Kilos> lol
[17:41] <inetpro> Kilos: what was the mount command you used?
[17:41] <Kilos> in the end at 5 pm it booted to grub menu and did a revovery and now its working
[17:42] <Kilos>   sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt
[17:43] <Kilos> had already tried the recovery 10 times or more so dunno why it worked in the end 
[17:43] <Kilos> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[17:44] <inetpro> I guess it was to early in the boot process
[17:44]  * inetpro wonders why that would happen
[17:44] <Kilos> i tried to  go ctrl+alt=f2 but also got to initramfs
[17:45] <Kilos> im lost because now its perfect and reboots fine
[17:45] <Kilos> murphy visiting again
[17:45] <Kilos> hehe
[17:46] <inetpro> you seem to have very interesting challenges
[17:46] <Kilos> i tried to do boot-repair from live cd but all it did was waste a couple meg data
[17:47] <Kilos> thats why i tried tou mount sda1 to install grub again
[17:47] <Kilos> yeah weird
[17:48] <Kilos> but the thing would boot to grub menu fine and from there crash
[17:48] <Kilos> so inetpro how did you sort your prob
[17:50] <inetpro> Kilos: actually I still need to figure out exactly each step of the way on a new installation but I think my biggest problem started with an inconsistent update
[17:51] <Kilos> eish
[17:53] <inetpro> Kilos: after changing my repositories to the international servers and did 'aptitude install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`' I got some nvidia stuff fixed which I don't quite understand at this stage
[17:53] <Kilos> ha ha ha
[17:53] <inetpro> will have to repeat this on a fresh install and see from there
[17:54] <inetpro> and then I would like to address the big fat white blocks on a live disk
[17:54] <inetpro> but let me go have dinner... wbb
[17:54] <Kilos> ok
[17:54] <Kilos> groete tuis daar
[18:19] <Kilos> i gonna reboot to see if murphy came back
[18:19] <Kilos> wbb
[18:19] <Kilos> hopefully
[18:22] <Kilos> w00t
[18:22] <Kilos> all good
[18:22] <superfly> drubin, tumbleweed: I think I know why we're getting so much spam... it's the OpenID module. There seems to be some unknown security vulnerability where bots can register and login without needing to complete the captcha or anything else... I had it enabled on another site, and as soon as I disabled the OpenID module, the spam almost disappeared
[18:23] <nlsthzn> Hi all :)
[18:23] <superfly> yo nlsthzn
[18:23] <tumbleweed> ah. The spam I get on my blog isn't from people logging in, but commenting anonymously
[18:24] <Kilos> hiya nlsthzn 
[18:24] <superfly> I've got that turned off on ubuntu-za
[18:24] <tumbleweed> superfly: how about limiting the openid providers to launchpad.net L
[18:24] <tumbleweed> s/L/?l
[18:24] <tumbleweed> grr
[18:24] <Kilos> hehe
[18:24] <tumbleweed> s,l,/,
[18:24] <superfly> I am not sure if the OpenID module supports that, but I'll have a look
[18:25] <tumbleweed> superfly: I swear I've seen ubuntu drupal sites that just have a login button, that takes youstraight to ubuntu singlesignon
[18:25] <superfly> hrm
[18:26] <tumbleweed> there's http://91.189.93.73/ but it's drupal 7 (and I think the openid module was hacked to death, to expose certain LP groups to that site)
[18:26] <superfly> if you can point one out to me, I'll have a look at what they do and see if I can replicated it
[18:26] <superfly> *replicate
[18:26] <superfly> ah
[18:26] <Kilos> guys is it not wise to give spammers a taste of their own medicine
[18:27] <Kilos> i wanna hear what sugarplum does
[18:27]  * tumbleweed must totally upgrade soda to squeeze :/
[18:27] <Kilos> the write up makes it look like a spammers nightmare
[18:27] <Kilos> lo Langjan 
[18:28] <Langjan> Hi kilos hoe gaan dit?
[18:28] <Kilos> goed dankie en self
[18:28] <Langjan> goed dankie, just disappointed in my 11.04
[18:29] <tumbleweed> superfly: I can't log in via openid without filling out the captcha
[18:29] <Kilos> there is a way to make it go gnome again
[18:29] <superfly> hi hi Langjan
[18:30] <Kilos> nlsthzn, can you tell Langjan how to make unity go back to gnome please
[18:30] <superfly> tumbleweed: yeah, but I think there's a URL that the spam bots craft to allow them to log in
[18:30] <Langjan> no, its not that
[18:30] <Kilos> oh what now
[18:30] <Langjan> I have it right  on classic
[18:30] <Kilos> ok and?
[18:31] <zeref> hurrrrmmm
[18:31] <Kilos> lo zeref 
[18:31] <zeref> lo Kilos 
[18:32] <Langjan> it is not installing ubuntu software, says "available from "universe" source, option is "use this source" then it goes dead  
[18:32] <nlsthzn> going to Abu Dhabi tomorrow to stay one night then we fly :)
[18:32] <Kilos> yay nlsthzn 
[18:32] <Langjan> Tried to install xchat, Xsane scan, grmaps genealogy, all the same result 
[18:33] <Kilos> Langjan, you can choose a different repo
[18:33] <Langjan> nlsthzn,  sounds great
[18:33] <nlsthzn> :) 
[18:33] <Langjan> whats a repo?
[18:33] <nlsthzn> so I won't be online for about a month :/
[18:33] <Kilos> if your software centre is thew same as mavericks then you go 
[18:33] <Kilos> repo is a site with all the packages
[18:34] <tumbleweed> superfly: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDrupal
[18:34]  * inetpro ..
[18:34] <Langjan> Is this the link for repo info?
[18:35] <Kilos> Langjan, you go edit and software sources
[18:35] <Langjan> ok is that all? I have to restart to boot on the 1104 drive 
[18:36] <Kilos> i use http://ftp.sun.ac.za
[18:36] <Kilos> when you see the block
[18:36] <Kilos> um
[18:36] <Kilos> download from
[18:37] <superfly> tumbleweed: yeah, I saw that... only for Drupal 5 though
[18:37] <Kilos> then tick on the triangle by south africa
[18:37] <Kilos> and you can choose between all the sa sites
[18:37] <tumbleweed> superfly: there's a bronch for 6.x for drupal-openid
[18:38] <tumbleweed> and drupal-launchpad
[18:38] <superfly> ah, ok
[18:39] <Langjan> are tumbleweed  and drupal on the same topic?  
[18:39] <drubin> superfly: Cool
[18:39] <tumbleweed> Langjan: the topic is spam on ubuntu-za.org
[18:40] <Langjan> ok thanks
[18:41] <inetpro> bye nls[tab]
[18:41] <Kilos> lol
[18:50] <Kilos> nou reen dit lekker hier
[19:49] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[23:13] <pjdelport> regarding the mirror.ac.za downtime, i filed the following ticket: https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=18911
[23:13] <pjdelport> if anyone wants to follow up
[23:44] <Kerbero> one needs a login to see that
[23:45] <Kerbero> ahh lounchpad login works