[00:00] <Gentoo64> try it :)
[00:00] <nux_> jase_: how to?
[00:00] <jase_> nux_: yeah the zotacs nice, the wifi card was nasty though
[00:00] <seanmc98> i have buetooth on my laptop however it wont work in windows nor ubutnu and in the ubuntu settings it says no bluetooth adapters  but i have a big button on my laptop tha t has a bluetooth and when ubuntu is shutting down i can see it saying turning off bluetooth
[00:00] <seanmc98> its a acer aspire 4330
[00:00] <jase_> nux_: pulseaudio -vvv
[00:01] <catalin> i cant login anymore on my EC2 ubuntu using SSH, i get Server refused our key, can anyone please help me? Im still loged in on server using putty but i cant open anymore a new connection and im afraid to close the active one because i cant connect anymore
[00:01] <Roasted_> lol - uh - I can't seem to log out of my system? Is there a terminal command that I can run to kick me back to the login screen?
[00:01] <nux_> jase_: give me a sec
[00:02] <jase_> catalin: can you logon with password?
[00:02] <OODavo> If I kill the ibus-daemon, Compose begins working in urxvt, so ibus is somehow intercepting the key signal.
[00:02] <solringel> i also have another issue when i try to use the option to lock the screen it does nothing i am using ubuntu 11.10 with gnome shel
[00:02] <catalin> jase: i dont have password on amazon EC2 i use only privatekey
[00:02] <spotter> Gentoo64, not really a power surge
[00:02] <Gentoo64> solringel: cant help with that
[00:03] <Roasted_> uh, yeah, so 11.10 won't respon d to logouts or reboot
[00:03] <Roasted_> what could cause this
[00:03] <spotter> me forgetting about the machine was on that circuit and flipping the breaker
[00:03] <spotter> but close enough that I count it
[00:03] <Gentoo64> spotter: ok, lol well you know its a bug at least
[00:03] <spotter> yes
[00:03] <spotter> annoying bug
[00:03] <Gentoo64> but a bug i know nothing about
[00:03] <Gentoo64> :(
[00:03] <RonaldJ> hello all. Is rsync a good way to backup to a centos server or is there a better (newer) way?
[00:03] <spotter> I can deal with the disk dying,
[00:03] <spotter> its a pain when headless machines dont boot
[00:03] <jase_> catalin: can you compare your local ~/.ssh/ key file with the authorized_keys on EC2?
[00:04] <atkrad> how do working with Epson Scanner V350 on ubuntu?
[00:04] <seanmc98> here is the output of lspci if anyone is interested http://pastebin.com/ed4VyjyU
[00:04] <catalin> jase: yes i still have one active session open with putty
[00:05] <elsoja> I have a 7,1 MacBook Pro. Will the Oneiric's kernel battery regression affect it?
[00:06] <catalin> jase_: i created new key and i allow on server but the same thing, everything was working fine, not sure what exactly happen
[00:06] <Gentoo64> elsoja: itll prob affect anything on battery
[00:06] <catalin> jase_: i was looking also on google and i tried lot of things but nothing seems to help
[00:06] <jase_> catalin: that's lucky, did you overwrite the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file? maybe by accident
[00:06] <jase_> on EC2
[00:06] <elsoja> Gentoo64: so, wich hardwares are affected?
[00:07] <nux_> jase_: if i run pulseaudio -vvv i get E: pid.c: Daemon already running.
[00:07] <nux_> E: main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
[00:07] <jase_> nux_: you need to 'killall pulseaudio' first
[00:07] <catalin> jase_: i will add the key again on ssh/authorized_keys
[00:07] <nux_> jase_: will do
[00:08] <jase_> catalin: it's likely to be a mismatch between local and remote key files.
[00:08] <catalin> jase_: i will replace now and i will try to open a new putty connection, what was the command to restart ssh after i will make the changes?
[00:09] <elsoja> Wich hardwares are affected by the kernel battery regression?
[00:09] <atkrad> how do working with Epson Scanner V350 on ubuntu? http://paste.ubuntu.com/750912/
[00:09] <jase_> catalin: sudo server sshd restart I think but that'll kill all your connections to the server...be very careful
[00:10] <solringel> how do i fix E: Unable to locate package errors in terminal?
[00:10] <jase_> catalin: you shouldn't need to restart the servers ssh after uploading the public key
[00:10] <irule> hi I just installed openvpn, and there is no easyrsa directory and it is used in the howtos, whatsup?
[00:11] <catalin> jase_: yes
[00:11] <scribe> Does anyone use the ATI/AMD proprietary vid drivers?  It seems the installer Ubuntu offers is borked.
[00:11] <catalin> jase_: i will not restart the server
[00:11] <jase_> catalin: sorry not patronising, just wanted to make sure you didn't accidentally lose your only connection :-)
[00:12] <alsoeric> I ned to get remote access to a friend's ubuntu desktop.  he knows nothing about port forwarding and firewalls.  is there any way to let him reach out instead of me reachig in?
[00:12] <atkrad> how do working with Epson Scanner V350 on ubuntu? lspci: http://paste.ubuntu.com/750912/
[00:12] <seanmc98> alsoeric, try teamviewer?
[00:12] <nux_> jase_: i get a bit of red text there E: [pulseaudio] module-tunnel.c: Failed to create source. and E: [pulseaudio] module-tunnel.c: Failed to create sink.
[00:12] <alsoeric> is that in distribution?
[00:13] <catalin> jase_: i just did sudo service ssh restart and i will see
[00:13] <seanmc98> alsoeric, teamviewer.com
[00:13] <alsoeric> just found it
[00:13] <alsoeric> thanks
[00:13] <catalin> jase_: still the same problem
[00:13] <OODavo> I take it no one has any suggestions regarding ibus, then?
[00:14] <meerkats> where do I access a log with all the commands ever written in my craptop?
[00:14] <tp43> Hi, when I touch a file in my /var/www/somedir, i can read it in php but I can't write to it with php, but I can write to it with gedit
[00:15] <atkrad> how do working with Epson Scanner V350 on ubuntu? lspci: http://paste.ubuntu.com/750912/
[00:16] <jase_> nux_: I've set mine up to use zeroconf and raop not tunnel
[00:16] <Roasted_> Does anybody know how to move the unity bar in a multi monitor setup?
[00:17] <nux_> jase_: might i askm what the difference is?
[00:17] <chilversc> so, when using search from the file browser, how do I see where the found file is located?
[00:18] <chilversc> all it lists for me is the file name
[00:18] <jase_> nux_: I'm wondering that too, the tunnel module is loaded so it must be required by pa but i've not specified it to load it
[00:19] <_spt_> atkrad : you will need to install some driver see http://avasys.jp/eng/linux_driver/
[00:19] <yeats> chilversc: right click and select Properties?
[00:19] <catalin> jase_: i was looking on log and i get this: Authentication refused: bad ownership or modes                         for directory /home/ubuntu
[00:19] <jase_> nux_:: RAOP is apple airtunes
[00:19] <nux_> jase_: eww
[00:20] <jase_> catalin: check the perms and ownership on the dir
[00:20] <jase_> nux_: yeah, no idea, must have loaded it for the mrs, ipad
[00:20] <chilversc> yeats: nope, that only shows "Location: /home/chris/Downloads/fdbasew..."
[00:20] <catalin> jase_: how to do that if you dont mind
[00:20] <jase_> catalin: ls -al /home
[00:21] <nux_> jase_: :-P hmm btw i only get red text at those two points .. the rest seems to run but the video is still stuck
[00:21] <nux_> jase_: do you think there's a way to get the padevchooser running under 11.10?
[00:21] <catalin> jase_: this is what i get: drwxr-xr-x  4 vsftpd www-data 4096 2011-11-26 20:50 .
[00:21] <catalin> drwxr-xr-x 22 root   root     4096 2011-11-23 23:34 ..
[00:21] <catalin> drwxr-xr-x  5 vsftpd www-data 4096 2011-11-27 00:10 ubuntu
[00:21] <catalin> drwxr-xr-x  2 vsftpd www-data 4096 2011-11-23 23:36 vmail
[00:21] <MikeH> I wish to build a NAS with Ubuntu, what are my storage options? I'd normally just go with LVM, but wouldn't mind some redundancy
[00:22] <Roasted_> MikeH, I'm using mdadm. software raid 1.
[00:22] <jase_> nux_: I think it'd deprecated by the developer but it might be kicking around in the ppa's
[00:22] <Roasted_> MikeH, I use that setup across 2 different boxes. one is a true nas running 11.04 on a flash drive and the other is my main desktop.
[00:22] <Roasted_> haha. part of unity just crashed.
[00:22] <jase_> catalin: looks like you're missing /home/ubuntu....is the user on the EC2 server 'ubuntu' or vsftpd?
[00:23] <Roasted_> excuse me while I log out and into gnome shell >_<
[00:23] <catalin> jase_: ubuntu
[00:23] <truefx> hi all
[00:23] <piotr_> godofmischief: ok... have you tried compiz --replace? cause the fusion icon doesn't work for me
[00:23] <jase_> catalin: if there's no ubuntu directory in /home then thats likely to be the problem
[00:23] <truefx> is there a way to change resize cursor
[00:23] <truefx> ?
[00:24] <dougl> how can I get my desktops on a rotating cube in unity?
[00:24] <truefx> it is soo ugly imho
[00:24] <dougl> I only have 2 desktops
[00:24] <catalin> jase_: ok and how to solve it ? i still keep the session open on putty and i try to fix the problem because if i close it i cant open anymore
[00:24] <dougl> so it is a rotating panel with 2 sides
[00:24] <catalin> jase_: how to change back to ubuntu user?
[00:26] <jase_> catalin: try the useradd command : http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/add-a-user-on-ubuntu-server/
[00:26] <catalin> jase_: ok i will take a look
[00:29] <nux_> jase_: sorry i don't quite get it.. how can i install it?
[00:30] <olson> anyone use kde desktop enviroment with ubuntu 11.10?
[00:31] <roasted> Is there a way to move the Unity bar to my other monitor?
[00:32] <godofmischief> piotr_, no i haven't how does that work?
[00:33] <xangua> roasted: if you mean the launcher, no
[00:33] <piotr_> godofmischief: type "compiz --replace &" into  your command line
[00:34] <roasted> xangua, oh, sweet. So for two monitors I have to clock the whole way to the left o use it?
[00:34] <jase_> nux_: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+package/padevchooser
[00:34] <CharminTheMoose> Why does /var/run, /dev/shm and /var/lock all have half my ram allocated to it? shouldn't it get split up depending on how much is being used in any given location?
[00:35] <godofmischief> piotr_, that jacked up something can't grab and move windows now
[00:35] <godofmischief> piotr_, i do beleive it enabled the animations tho
[00:36] <piotr_> godofmischief: have you enabled it in ccsm?
[00:36] <godofmischief> yes.
[00:36] <piotr_> godofmischief: or are there no window decorations as well?
[00:36] <ironfoot495> Hello is there someone who can assist me in fesolving using the nvidia driver for more resolution?
[00:36] <godofmischief> piotr_, menu animations are now enabled. all my windows frames are locked into position won't allow me to move them now.
[00:37] <ciemnytyp> after using DBAN on hard disk this disk is still useable or i can only throw it into rubbish bin?
[00:37] <ironfoot495> resolving
[00:37] <ircEXPERT> ciemytype: it is useable, you just have to partition and format it like any fresh disk
[00:38] <godofmischief> piotr_, brb desktop cube even works now, got a wierd maximized windows locked into the title bar thing going. brb
[00:39] <piotr_> godofmischief: mh, well in the settings manager i have move windows, place/position windows and window decorations enabled
[00:39] <magpii> whenever i start my firestarter gui, it works for a min or two and then stops.....also, whenever i try running transmission, all internet access instantly stops......any help please?
[00:40] <prodigel> hi there. I've just bought a nice hp/i5-2xxx/4G/amd 6470m hd laptop, and I've got stuck on making it use the video card properly. Anyone had simiar problems?
[00:40] <magpii> i have to reboot and then switch from wireless to wired coonection before i can browse the net again
[00:40] <jase_> nux_: signing off but this looks like a good explanation of the tunnel/not tunnel paradigm: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1765526  I'm using zeroconf-discover on the client and module-native-protocol
[00:41] <zykotick9> prodigel, what video card is it?  "lspci | grep -i vga" if you aren't sure.
[00:41] <korben> hello
[00:41] <Putr> hi! I have a 10.04 ubuntu VPS. I'm trying to setup HTTPS but it seems like the rly old version of openSSL is the problem. (10.04 repo has 0.9.8k while my other server has 1.0.0) -- how would i go updating this module?
[00:41] <prodigel> zykes-,  ATI Technologies Inc NI Seymour [AMD Radeon HD 6470M]
[00:42] <piotr_> godofmischief: well that certainly sounds weird :) btw, which desktop environment do you try to use compiz on?
[00:42] <prodigel> zykes-,  sorry
[00:42] <prodigel> zykotick9,   ATI Technologies Inc NI Seymour [AMD Radeon HD 6470M]
[00:42] <zykotick9> prodigel, ok, good luck - i don't help with ati stuff.  (fail x2)
[00:42] <tjiggi_fo> heh
[00:43] <magpii> can someone tell me how to create a log file for my firewall? it keeps stopping and i don't know why
[00:43] <prodigel> zykotick9, :) good one
[00:44] <zykotick9> prodigel, the fail x2 - was about the nick completion, but i see know it was really only fail x1 ;)
[00:44] <zykotick9> s/know/now/
[00:44] <Jordan_U> ciemnytyp: Not exactly an Ubuntu question, but DBAN will not break a drive (other than causing a lot of wear / aging due to all the writes).
[00:47] <catalin> jase_: thanks for help, still the same problem. I think is much easier to create a new server than lose hours figure out everything :)
[00:48] <godofmischief> piotr_, thanks for your help this did enable it. having problems with my windows being locked in place now as if they were maximized tho they are not, the title bar even integrated with my top bar.
[00:48] <melkor> I have a dvd I can try to compute the md5sum by right clicking and checking... that locks up nautilus is there a way to do this from cmd line?
[00:49] <Lasers> melkor: md5sum ~/Desktop/file.iso
[00:49] <melkor> Lasers: the image is already burnt, I want to see if it was burnt correctly.
[00:49] <piotr_> godofmischief: glad i could help. unfortunately it's 2 am now and i have to catch some sleep. best of luck to you
[00:50] <godofmischief> piotr_, thanks sleep well.
[00:50] <Lasers> melkor: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM_on_CD
[00:51] <Lasers> melkor: See "Check The CD" section too in that page.
[00:52] <melkor> Lasers I'm reading now. It looks like I will just reburn.
[00:55] <catalin> jase_: i find the problem:   sudo chown -R ubuntu:ubuntu /home/ and now the key file works
[00:56] <kcw45> has anyone else using a combination of oneiric and open source ati drivers experienced any graphical issues on boot?  for me a lot of times, there will be artifacts (not too concerned) before lightdm shows, and occasionally there is a quick flash of a 'screenshot' from a previous session (very concerned).  the card is rv770 (radeon hd 4850)
[00:56] <CharminTheMoose> Why does /var/run, /dev/shm and /var/lock all have half my ram allocated to it? shouldn't it get split up depending on how much is being used in any given location?
[00:56] <riveram> is ubuntu coming to smartphones?
[00:57] <bekks> riveram: not in a near future.
[00:58] <riveram> do you guys think that android is going to get left behind when apple and microsoft complete making their mobile and desktop operating systems one?
[00:58] <xangua> !ot | riveram
[00:59] <ironbits> yeah
[00:59] <lov> I'm having a pretty severe issue with my networking when booted into linux. I created an ubuntu forums thread, but I'm cross posting in case anyone sees this and can help. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1887336 Basically, my networking cuts out completely for periods at a time.
[00:59] <lov> this only happens when booted into ubuntu; it NEVER happens when in windows.
[01:00] <bekks> crossposting is not a very good thing seeking support...
[01:00] <oscalation> can someone help me install a printer? when i use the new printer wizard, its not finding any drivers and wont install my printer. I have a brother HL 2280DW .. brother says it has linux support including for debian/ubuntu.
[01:00] <lov> I'm seeking support through multiple avenues. I'm assuming that there are people who use irc but not the ubuntu forums and vice versa.
[01:01] <Jordan_U> oscalation: You're connecting it via USB?
[01:01] <oscalation> i have found the drivers ...      http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html#HL-2280DW
[01:01] <oscalation> Jordan_U, yes
[01:03] <Ghostx562> Herro,
[01:03] <jakupl> lol herro
[01:03] <Ghostx562> How Can I Make My NTFS Drive Auto-Mount Everytime I Boot My PC?
[01:03] <jakupl> Ghostx562: You can put it in fstab
[01:04] <Ghostx562> Its An Internal Drive With Stuff That I Can't Lose.
[01:04] <Ghostx562> How Do I Access FStab?
[01:04] <jakupl> hGhostx562: ttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[01:04] <jakupl> hGhostx562: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[01:04] <oscalation> Jordan_U, any idea?
[01:04] <Ghostx562> Thanks :D
[01:04] <kcw45> !guidelines
[01:06] <oscalation> Jordan_U, still there?
[01:07] <Jordan_U> Ghostx562: Just as a general thing, anything that you can't lose should not be stored on only one drive. You need backups on other drives (and depending on how important it is, other physical locations).
[01:07] <Jordan_U> oscalation: Yes.
[01:07] <stratos45> Can I install updates from the Ubuntu update manager when I am on a LiveUSB session with my LiveUSB drive having persistence?
[01:07] <oscalation> Jordan_U, any ideas on what i should try
[01:08] <Ghostx562> Jordan_U,I Know, I Don't Have A Big enough drive to cover most of the stuff, its a 500gb internal and the biggest i have is 160 ext
[01:08] <xangua> stratos45: if it is a persistent install, yes
[01:08] <ironbits> have a brazillian ???
[01:08] <xangua> !pt | ironbits
[01:08] <Jordan_U> stratos45: No. I would highly recommend you create a normal install instead of a persistant live one.
[01:09] <Jordan_U> stratos45: xangua: Among other things, kernel updates will not work at all (even if they appear to have installed properly).
[01:09] <stratos45> xangua, would it cause any problems in my next LiveUSB session? Or no problems at all.
[01:09] <Ghostx562> jakupl: I Got To The Part Where I Open Fstab, But I'm Lost Now.
[01:10] <jakupl> haha
[01:10] <jakupl> Ghostx562: you basically need to know the UUID of the NTFS partition
[01:10] <stratos45> Jordan_U, why is that so? That a normal install is better?
[01:10] <Ghostx562> I Have The Info : /dev/sdb1: LABEL="Storage" UUID="22AA2DD8AA2DA8ED" TYPE="ntfs"
[01:10] <CharminTheMoose_> Why does /var/run, /dev/shm and /var/lock all have half my ram allocated to it? shouldn't it get split up depending on how much is being used in any given location?
[01:11] <Ghostx562> I Just Don't Know What To Do Anymore.
[01:11] <jakupl> Ghostx562: good
[01:11] <jakupl> Ghostx562: 2 seconds.
[01:11] <Ghostx562> Jakupl: I Haz to Make MountPoint?
[01:12] <jakupl> Ghostx562: just make a directory where you want to mount the partition.. like /home/Ghostx562/windows
[01:12] <jakupl> Ghostx562: yes sir
[01:12] <Ghostx562> Its Doesn't Have Any Windows Files, Just A Bunch Of Home Movies And Pictures
[01:12] <Jordan_U> stratos45: Because a persistant live install is two parts, a read only part and a read-write part which stores files that differ from the read only part. This is fine if the differences are just in things like documents stored on the Desktop, but due to the way it's implemented completely fails with kernel upgrades and likely other things as well.
[01:13] <Jordan_U> stratos45: And the only advantage of a live install over a regular install is that the read only portion of a live install is smaller (compressed).
[01:13] <jakupl> Ghostx562: Put something like this into fstab: UUID="22AA2DD8AA2DA8ED  /home/Ghostx562/windows ntfs-3g
[01:14] <korben> hello
[01:14] <jakupl> Ghostx562: Put something like this into fstab: UUID="22AA2DD8AA2DA8ED  /home/Ghostx562/windows ntfs-3g defaults
[01:15] <jakupl> Ghostx562: You obviously need to change the directory to the one that you want it to mount to.
[01:15] <stratos45> Jordan_U: Ok, thank you.
[01:15] <melkor> jakupl: has he gotten a mount statement to work yet?
[01:15] <Ghostx562> Ok
[01:15] <Jordan_U> oscalation: What version of Ubuntu are you using? Usually if proper drivers exist for linux they will be included in Ubuntu by default, but if your version of Ubuntu was released before these drivers could be integrated that might be the problem. I would be wary about installing drivers manually. Only do it as a last result and be sure you know how to undo anything you do.
[01:16] <jakupl> Ghostx562: oh yeah, you might want to manually mount it first, to make sure it works.
[01:16] <Ghostx562> Ok
[01:16] <oscalation> 11.10 Jordan_U
[01:16] <oscalation> i found this http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/faq_prn.html#f00090
[01:17] <Ghostx562> jakupl: Like This? http://pastebin.com/JcpJzib4
[01:17] <grkblood> how come System Settings > Screen > Turn off after:"Never"  still makes my laptop screen turn off ater the default 10 minutes?
[01:18] <stratos45> is it possible to install ubuntu with all the relevant updates in the CD or USB versus just installing ubuntu and connecting to the internet to download the updates (which takes up time if you are going to install ubuntu on multiple PCs)
[01:18] <jakupl> Ghostx562: yeah it's easier to just try it. If it doesn't work, then your computer will complain and you might get the option to boot anyways. If not, then you have to boot into recovery mode and remove the line in fstab
[01:18] <jakupl> :)
[01:18] <melkor> grkblood: did you set it for both modes, ac and on battery?
[01:19] <jakupl> Ghostx562: so try to reboot now.
[01:19] <Ghostx562> ok
[01:19] <Ghostx562> i saved the fstab
[01:19] <jakupl> Ghostx562: good
[01:19] <Ghostx562> now do i have to make it mount?
[01:19] <Ghostx562> or reboot?
[01:19] <zaffy> don't need to reboot
[01:19] <grkblood> melkor, i have neither option under Screen
[01:19] <zaffy> just sudo mount -a
[01:19] <kcw45> you can probably just "sudo mount -a"
[01:19] <Jordan_U> stratos45: You can setup a local apt mirror so that you only need to go out to the internet once for each updated package.
[01:20] <grkblood> melkor, its just: "Turn off after: Never"
[01:20] <jakupl> oh I didn't know about mount -a
[01:20] <jakupl> Ghostx562 so try that first
[01:20] <jakupl> Ghostx562 sudo mount -a
[01:21] <Ghostx562> yeah i see my drive in the taskbar thing
[01:21] <Ghostx562> the "dock"
[01:21] <melkor> grkblood: I am using gnome 2 and I got System->Preferences->power management.
[01:21] <stratos45> Jordan_U: sorry, but what is "apt"?
[01:21] <jakupl> go to /home/ghost/Storage
[01:21] <jakupl> are the files there?
[01:21] <grkblood> melkor, yes, ive set power management as well
[01:22] <melkor> grkblood: for both battery and ac?
[01:22] <Ghostx562> jakupl: yes
[01:22] <grkblood> melkor, yes, they are both set to "Don't suspend"
[01:22] <jakupl> Ghostx562: yey. job done
[01:22] <zaffy> Ghostx562, check your permissions on it
[01:22] <jakupl> Ghostx562: Try if you can create a text file
[01:23] <Ghostx562> ok
[01:23] <basepi> question for you guys -- if i have a symlinked directory, and cd into it, is there a way to make the SOURCE directory my cwd?  so that if i then were to `cd ..`, it would go one directory above the source of the symlink, as opposed to my original directory.  not sure if i'm being clear or not.
[01:23] <Ghostx562> on the drive right?
[01:23] <grkblood> melkor, http://i41.tinypic.com/9iwn4z.png
[01:23] <oscalation> Jordan_U, tried this    http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/faq_prn.html#f00090
[01:23] <oscalation> installed drivers for dcp1000, printer wont print
[01:23] <zaffy> yes Ghostx562
[01:23] <jakupl> Ghostx562: yes.. in /home/ghost/Storage
[01:23] <Ghostx562> ok
[01:24] <Ghostx562> noob here srry
[01:24] <melkor> grkblood: too new for me. Do you have one above all settings?
[01:24] <Jordan_U> stratos45: apt is the system that deals with installing and updating packages. Right now apt is looking for new packages from somewhere like http://archive.ubuntu.com, you could instead configure apt to look for packages on a local (within your house) server. That server itself would go out to archive.ubuntu.com, but only once per machine that asks for the same file (package).
[01:24] <Ghostx562> 1 sec
[01:24] <jakupl> Ghostx562: no prob. editing fstab for the first time is something you will remember with great joy ;-)
[01:24] <peterrusso> disconnect
[01:24] <Ghostx562> It Saved In The Directory
[01:25] <jakupl> Ghostx562: and tears in your eyes
[01:25] <Ghostx562> Jakupl: Thanks lol
[01:25] <grkblood> melkor, no
[01:25] <stratos45> Jordan_U: Ok, I will give it a try. Thanks for the help! Cheers.
[01:25] <Jordan_U> stratos45: If you don't know what apt is yet though, this type of project is probably beyond what you'd want to try until you get more experience.
[01:25] <Ghostx562> jakupl: it saved
[01:25] <Ghostx562> BTW, It Says Root Is Owner
[01:25] <Ghostx562> under the permissions tab
[01:25] <jakupl> Ghostx562: ah ok
[01:25] <melkor> grkblood: what DE are you using?
[01:25] <jakupl> go to terminal
[01:26] <Ghostx562> ok
[01:26] <grkblood> DE?
[01:26] <oscalation> ubuntu is deb not rpm right?
[01:26] <Jordan_U> oscalation: Correct.
[01:26] <grkblood> melkor, what is DE?
[01:26] <grkblood> desktop environment?
[01:26] <melkor> desktop environment.
[01:26] <grkblood> gnome 3
[01:26] <stratos45> Jordan_U: talking about experience, do you have any suggestion on where I could get some aside from the official documentation in the website?
[01:26] <grkblood> unity
[01:26] <jakupl> do "cd /home/ghost/Storage"
[01:27] <Ghostx562> jakupl: ok
[01:27] <jakupl> Ghostx562: without the quotes
[01:27] <Jordan_U> !manual | stratos45
[01:27] <Ghostx562> jakupl: done
[01:27] <jakupl> Ghostx562: this is potentially dangerous... so double check.. are you actually in the right directory?
[01:27] <jakupl> do "ls"
[01:27] <jakupl> to see if the correct files are shown
[01:27] <Ghostx562> Yes, RIght Directory
[01:27] <ironbits> where meeting a good material to LPI 3 ??
[01:28] <melkor> grkblood: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=125316
[01:28] <stratos45> Jordan_U: ubottu: Thanks for that, I will try it out
[01:28] <oscalation> Jordan_U, do i want LPR or cups
[01:28] <melkor> grkblood: but that is a pretty shitty solution.
[01:28] <Ghostx562> jakupl: done
[01:28] <Jordan_U> stratos45: Other than that though, just keep using Ubuntu and trying to do new things. Setting up an apt mirror would definitely give you good experience, but it will take a lot of time and effort starting from the basics.
[01:28] <stratos45> !manual
[01:29] <Jordan_U> oscalation: CUPS
[01:29] <jakupl> Ghostx562: ok. now do "sudo chown -R ghost:ghost *"
[01:29] <Drone4four> would it be alright if I asked a question about a oneiric based distribution Linux Mint in this channel?  I want to present my problem in this channel b/c i've exhausted the knowledge of Linux Mint users in their channel on their network and i am growing impatient with my thread's lack of activity....i think the problem i am trying to solve could be answered by knowledgeable Ubuntu users....
[01:29] <stratos45> !manual
[01:29] <Ghostx562> jakupl: done, and a new line appeared
[01:29] <jakupl> huh?
[01:29] <jakupl> oh yeah
[01:29] <melkor> Drone4four: you could ask the question and see what happens.
[01:30] <jakupl> now do "ls -l"
[01:30] <Drone4four> ok
[01:30] <Ghostx562> jakupl: total 20
[01:30] <Ghostx562> drwxrwxrwx 1 root root    0 2011-10-06 20:25 Apollo
[01:30] <Ghostx562> drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8192 2011-11-24 18:02 Torrents
[01:30] <Ghostx562> -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8718 2011-11-26 17:24 Untitled 1.odt
[01:30] <Drone4four> How do I purge my freshly installed 64bit system of all 32bit components? Instead of using a pastebin, you folks can see my error messages in full in the forum thread I made here: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=86709&p=501296#p501296
[01:30] <jakupl> huh?
[01:30] <jakupl> your username is ghost right?
[01:30] <Drone4four> my problem basically boils down to a 32bit Oneiric kernel survived a reformat with 64bit Lisa!
[01:31] <Ghostx562> Yes.
[01:31] <stratos45> Jordan_U: is what is "!manual"? I don't see anything on the IRC chat screen when I type and enter
[01:31] <melkor> Drone4four: it sounds like you installed the wrong kernel then.
[01:31] <Ghostx562> thats what it says on the home folder
[01:31] <Drone4four> but i formatted my drive completely
[01:31] <melkor> Drone4four: then you used the wrong cd to install from.
[01:32] <Ghostx562> jakupl: On The Top Right Corner It Shows My Real Name
[01:32] <zaffy> Ghostx562, you have to specify user and group into the fstab file....
[01:32] <Ghostx562> Do I Need To Put That?
[01:32] <jakupl> Ghostx562: no
[01:32] <Ghostx562> Ill Be Back IN 25
[01:32] <Ghostx562> Gotta Run To The Store
[01:32] <Maccer> So I have two ethernet controllers.  Do I have to do any extra configuration to make one of which work?
[01:32] <Ghostx562> never mind
[01:33] <Ghostx562> let me edit fstab
[01:33] <jakupl> Did it the terminal say something like "chown: invalid group: "
[01:33] <Ghostx562> jakupl: no
[01:33] <Drone4four> melkor: i used the same DVD that i am currently using to talk on irc --- Linux Mint 12: mint@mint ~ $ uname -a
[01:33] <Drone4four> Linux mint 3.0.0-12-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 7 14:56:25 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:34] <jakupl> Ghostx562: try to do "groups ghost"
[01:34] <Ghostx562> jakupl: how?
[01:34] <melkor> Drone4four: it seems that you are presenting a solution to a problem and not asking about the problem. If you formated everything then there are no 32 bit components.
[01:35] <jakupl> Ghostx562: in terminal
[01:35] <jakupl> "groups ghost"
[01:35] <Ghostx562> ghost : ghost adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[01:35] <Drone4four> melkor: that's what i thought
[01:35] <melkor> Drone4four: your problem is that you cannot load into gnome?
[01:35] <jakupl> Ghostx562: didn't the chmod command do give any error message?
[01:35] <Drone4four> i can't even boot
[01:35] <oscalation> Jordan_U, after i d/l cupswrapper hl2280dw.deb ... how do i install it?
[01:35] <jakupl> Ghostx562: sorry chown
[01:35] <melkor> Drone4four: so you cannot even get to grub?
[01:35] <Ghostx562> jakupl: no
[01:35] <Drone4four> i get a kernel panic 3 seconds into recovery mode at boot
[01:36] <Ghostx562> let me try again
[01:36] <Drone4four> i can get to grub
[01:36] <Ghostx562> jakupl: Do I Enter This? "sudo chown -R ghost"
[01:36] <melkor> Drone4four: how many times did you install? What video card do you have?
[01:36] <jakupl> Ghostx562:no
[01:37] <jakupl> Ghostx562: sudo chown -R ghost:ghost /home/ghost/Storage/
[01:37] <Drone4four> melkor: i installed once and I have an EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 2GB
[01:37] <Drone4four> well actually, i installed 32bit oneiric a few weeks ago
[01:37] <oscalation> anyone know how i can set up a brother hl 2280dw
[01:37] <jakupl> Ghostx562: make sure the /home/ghost/Storage/ part is correct
[01:37] <Drone4four> and then just yesterday i tried to install LM 12 over the old partition
[01:38] <oscalation> brother site has drives for the printer in .deb, not sure how to install
[01:38] <Ghostx562> jakupl: done, and it is correct
[01:38] <szal> oscalation: dpkg -i /path/to/insertFileNameHere.deb
[01:38] <melkor> Drone4four: do you have an xorg.cfg?
[01:38] <jakupl> ok. now do "ls -l /home/ghost/Storage/"
[01:39] <Drone4four> lemme check..would that be in /etc/X11/?
[01:39] <Ghostx562> same
[01:39] <Ghostx562> says root
[01:39] <melkor> Drone4four: should be
[01:39] <oscalation> szal, when i click on the .deb .. it opens up the ubuntu app store asking if i want to install. should i do it that way?
[01:39] <Ghostx562> oscalation, thats how it installs
[01:39] <Ghostx562> just hit install
[01:39]  * szal doesn't use graphical package manager
[01:39] <szal> s
[01:39] <Maccer> what a boss
[01:40] <jakupl> Ghostx562: that's weird.. that should really work.
[01:40] <sharpK> Hello everyone, Linux infant here. Setting up a basic home server (media streaming/sharing, etc), would Ubuntu Desktop be a more suitable server enviornment to me than the Ubuntu Server considering my very limited experience?
[01:40] <jakupl> Ghostx562: ok try to do it the gui way.
[01:40] <zaffy> jakupl, that's normal
[01:40] <Ghostx562> jakupl: did i have to put anything else into fstab?
[01:40] <zaffy> it works this way
[01:40] <melkor> sharpK: most likely, although server will last longer.
[01:40] <jakupl> zaffy: howcome?
[01:40] <sharpK> melkor: last longer in what sense?
[01:41] <jakupl> Ghostx562: probably not
[01:41] <zaffy> don't know but i had the same problem
[01:41] <zaffy> I had to set uid and gid in fstab
[01:41] <oscalation> Ghostx562, szal i get his error msg. The package is of bad quality . The installation of a package which violates the quality standards isn't allowed. This could cause serious problems on your computer. Please contact the person or organisation who provided this package file and include the details beneath..   Lintian check results for /home/user/Downloads/cupswrapperHL2280DW-2.0.4-2.i386.deb:
[01:41] <melkor> sharpK: release cycle. The desktop is fine plus it comes with a gu.
[01:41] <oscalation> Use of uninitialized value $ENV{"HOME"} in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/bin/lintian line 112.
[01:41] <oscalation> E: cupswrapperHL2280DW: package-not-lowercase
[01:41] <oscalation> E: cupswrapperHL2280DW: maintainer-address-missing Brother Industries,Ltd
[01:42] <oscalation> Ghostx562, szal i can hit ok to cancel or click ignore and install
[01:42] <Drone4four> melkor: i do not have an xorg.cfg: http://pastebin.com/j0uM8ZyR
[01:42] <Ghostx562> oscalation, i think it says that since its not a .deb from ubuntu software
[01:42] <gllera> can I remove all the packets that i had installed since a date?? (like a restoration point do)
[01:42] <Ghostx562> i think you should be fine
[01:43] <Ghostx562> oscalation, go ahead and install if you want
[01:43] <Ghostx562> or if you need it
[01:43] <jakupl> Ghostx562: ok do "id ghost"
[01:43] <melkor> Drone4four: You shouldn't and I believe you. It sounds like you are having a graphics card issue, but recovery mode should get around that. Can you boot to cmd prompt with your hd and not use the cd?
[01:43] <Ghostx562> im still in the cd storage
[01:43] <Ghostx562> do i exit jakupl?
[01:43] <jakupl> Ghostx562: exit what? no
[01:43] <Ghostx562> ghost@ghost-pc:~/Storage$ id ghost
[01:43] <Ghostx562> uid=1000(ghost) gid=1000(ghost) groups=1000(ghost),4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),46(plugdev),116(lpadmin),118(admin),124(sambashare)
[01:43] <grkblood> melkor, thanks
[01:44] <jakupl> Ghostx562: ok.. so let's set the uid and gid in the fstab file.. open the fstab file
[01:44] <melkor> Drone4four: I'm going to try and reboot into this mint thing you are talking about.
[01:44] <Ghostx562> ok
[01:44] <Drone4four> melkor: wait
[01:44] <oscalation> Ghostx562, szal   i installed, USC installed it, then refreshed saying its not installed
[01:45] <Drone4four> i don't think it's a gfx issue b/c this is the kernel panic error: request_module: runaway loop modprobe binfmt-464c
[01:45] <Drone4four> here is the first link off Google: http://saalwaechter-notes.blogspot.com/2008/10/requestmodule-runaway-loop-modprobe.html
[01:45] <Drone4four> melkor: did you download Linux Mint 12 (Lisa)??
[01:46] <melkor> Drone4four: yes
[01:46] <zhanx> getting that right now
[01:46] <gllera> melkor, eres camilo de cuba??
[01:46] <melkor> Drone4four: do you know what file it is using? You can use 'file' on it and it should tell you if it is 32 bit.
[01:46] <Ghostx562> jakupl: ok
[01:46] <melkor> gllera: not a chance.
[01:46] <Drone4four> the LiveDVD runs, it's just the install that doesn't boot
[01:46] <cablop> does anyone have enough experience with LVM here?
[01:47] <oscalation> Ghostx562,  szal , Jordan_U    any other ideas?
[01:47] <melkor> gllera: what language though there an ubuntu channel probably.
[01:47] <Drone4four> melkor: where do i enter the command, 'file'?
[01:47] <jakupl> Ghostx562: now replace "defaults" with "defaults,uid=1000,gid=1000"
[01:47] <Ghostx562> oscalation, Try Locating what you installed
[01:47] <melkor> Drone4four: go to a termin, mount the drive where your kernels were installed, and check the kernels.
[01:47] <oscalation> its not installing
[01:48] <Ghostx562> jakupl: done
[01:48] <oscalation> instead of the cups driver, there is a LPR driver, should i try the LPR?   http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html#HL-2280DW
[01:48] <gllera> melkor, I'm sorry I thought you were another person =X
[01:48] <jakupl> Ghostx562: now do "sudo mount -a"
[01:49] <doeeeli> Allright. I got that Ubuntu DVD CD burned. Anyone can introduce me into that Root ?
[01:49] <Ghostx562> jakupl: odne
[01:49] <Ghostx562> Done*
[01:49] <szal> doeeeli: (1) DVD or CD?  (2) into what?
[01:49] <jakupl> Ghostx562: good. now do "ls -l /home/ghost/Storage"
[01:49] <xangua> doeeeli: root what¿ ubuntu doesn't has root password
[01:50] <zaffy> has to be umounted first
[01:50] <doeeeli> :D :p
[01:50] <oscalation> tried the LPR driver, also did not install. im stumped
[01:50] <zhanx> well... it can.. but...
[01:50] <Ghostx562> jakupl: not working
[01:50] <Ghostx562> zaffy: directed towards me?
[01:50] <jakupl> zaffy: what?
[01:50] <oscalation> wait, Ghostx562 , installing the LPR driver worked, it says install
[01:50] <Ghostx562> install it
[01:50] <oscalation> Ghostx562, do i just print a test page?
[01:50] <zaffy> "mount -a" mount all that's not already mounted
[01:51] <Ghostx562> Oscalation, yes
[01:51] <jakupl> zaffy: ah. I'm not so familiar with umount -a
[01:51] <Ghostx562> trying to unmount via GUI i Get
[01:51] <zaffy> no umount -a!
[01:51] <Ghostx562> ok
[01:51] <zaffy> Ghostx562, umount /home/ghost/Storage
[01:52] <kcw45> just try umount /home/ghost/Storage (or where-ever you mounted it)
[01:52] <kcw45> then mount -a
[01:52] <doeeeli> ubuntu is great work from africa , isn't it ?
[01:52] <benct> indeed
[01:52] <Ghostx562> says only root can unmount
[01:52] <Ghostx562> so, sudo umount?
[01:52] <kcw45> sudo =) you got it
[01:52] <zaffy> yes, sorry
[01:52] <jakupl> Ghostx562: yes
[01:53] <oscalation> unable to print still, the brother hl 2280dw is not listed as a printer to use, and the printer wizard wont add it
[01:53] <jakupl> Ghostx562: if it says that it is busy, then you need to do "cd .." in terminal
[01:53] <Ghostx562> ok
[01:53] <jakupl> Ghostx562: and exit the partition within nautilus
[01:53] <Ghostx562> looks like it did unmount
[01:54] <jakupl> Ghostx562: good.. now "sudo mount -a"
[01:54] <melkor> Drone4four: I don't get to the installer at all. It just locks up. I don't know if the included kernel even works with my computer.
[01:54] <Ghostx562> jakupl: its mounted
[01:54] <jakupl> Ghostx562: good. now do "ls -l /home/ghost/Storage"
[01:54] <Drone4four> melkor: did you see the forum thread i linked too earlier?  if you haven't, here it is: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=86709
[01:54] <Ghostx562> jakupl: It Worked!!
[01:55] <jakupl> Ghostx562: yey. job done
[01:55] <Drone4four> i don't think it's a graphics card problem because of the specific kernel panic error
[01:55] <Ghostx562> jakupl:ghost@ghost-pc:~$ ls -l /home/ghost/Storage
[01:55] <Ghostx562> total 20
[01:55] <Ghostx562> drwxrwxrwx 1 ghost ghost    0 2011-10-06 20:25 Apollo
[01:55] <Ghostx562> drwxrwxrwx 1 ghost ghost 8192 2011-11-24 18:02 Torrents
[01:55] <Ghostx562> -rwxrwxrwx 1 ghost ghost 8718 2011-11-26 17:24 Untitled 1.odt
[01:55] <FloodBot1> Ghostx562: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:55] <doeeeli> so useful that DIS. ask me anyone why we're not using edubuntu at school. :/
[01:55] <Ghostx562> jakupl: so when i reboot it will auto mount it?
[01:55] <jakupl> Ghostx562: yes
[01:55] <melkor> Drone4four: yeah I looked through that.
[01:56] <melkor> Have you looked through your partitions to find the 32bit kernel?
[01:56] <Ghostx562> Jakupl: since i download torrents onto the external drive, do i have to tell transmission to download into /home/ghost/Storage?
[01:56] <jakupl> Ghostx562: yes
[01:56] <jakupl> Ghostx562: I think so.
[01:56] <Ghostx562> Ok Will Do.
[01:57] <Drone4four> in my humble opinion, my problem is a matter of setting /dev/sda7 as bootable instead of /dev/sda1
[01:57] <Ghostx562> jakupl: i can close terminal?
[01:57] <jakupl> Ghostx562: NO DON'T
[01:57] <melkor> Drone4four: so you fixed it?
[01:57] <jakupl> Ghostx562: continue to have fun in terminal
[01:57] <jakupl> Ghostx562: just kidding
[01:57] <Drone4four> no....
[01:57] <almoxarife> what is the terminal version of 'open files' as seen in gnome-system-monitor??
[01:57] <jakupl> Ghostx562: close it if you have to ;)
[01:57] <Ghostx562> jakupl, you almost gave me a heart attack!
[01:58] <jrib> almoxarife: lsof, fuser
[01:58] <Ghostx562> I was like I Effed Up
[01:58] <jakupl> Ghostx562: lol sorry
[01:58] <Nautilus> anyone care to help me with the diff command (or others if more appropriate)...  first I want to see, for files that exist in 2 directories (and their sub-dirs), which files are different (if any)
[01:58] <Ghostx562> jakupl: Its Ok, I Would Mess With N00bs If I Knew All This Stuff Also
[01:58] <Drone4four> i couldn't figure out how to use file to search for 32bit kernels....you didn't really explain how to do that and then you left to try out LM 12...
[01:58] <jakupl> Ghostx562 ;)
[01:58] <Drone4four> could you please explain now, melkor?
[01:58] <melkor> Drone4four: one sec Ill try it out.
[01:59]  * mentoc chuckles at "NO DON'T"
[01:59] <kcw45> Nautilus, i'm maybe not the best person to help, but have you tried "meld" ?
[01:59]  * Nautilus looks
[01:59] <mentoc> meld is awesome
[01:59] <mentoc> side by side visual diff
[02:00] <Nautilus> ah, not installed
[02:00] <Nautilus> id there a diff if I use "sudo apt-get install meld" or the GUI installer?
[02:00] <Nautilus> is*
[02:00] <Ghostx562> Thank YOU Jakupl!!
[02:00] <kcw45> Nautilus, try the sudo apt-get approach
[02:00] <zhanx> Nautilus, not really
[02:01] <kcw45> Nautilus, lots of different file comparison utilities to pick from really
[02:01] <jakupl> Ghostx562: heh no problem at all.
[02:03] <melkor> Drone4four: I cannot find a 32bit file. I think it will say something different if you look at a 32bit file.
[02:03] <Nautilus> ian@Ubuntu-1:~/sites$ meld
[02:03] <Nautilus> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[02:03] <Nautilus> nice, heh
[02:03] <Nautilus> trying again
[02:03] <Drone4four> melkor: so how do i search for a 32bit file like you?
[02:04] <melkor> Drone4four: I just type file nameoffile
[02:04] <melkor> Drone4four: it will tell you what the file is, if it is 32bit it tells you.
[02:05] <Drone4four> i hade to sound so helpless, but i really don't know what you mean
[02:05] <melkor> Drone4four: they're not really saved as 32bit though, it is how they are compiled so it needs to be a library or something.
[02:05] <Drone4four> melkor: mint@mint /media/1ad64730-ac97-42a3-8420-8e8707456937 $ file kernel
[02:05] <Drone4four> kernel: ERROR: cannot open `kernel' (No such file or directory)
[02:06] <kcw45> Nautilus, diff also has an option you can pass on command line "-r" which will compare subdirectories recursively.  unfortunately, i'm not that experienced =)
[02:06] <melkor> Drone4four: you should be able to run it on vmlinuz
[02:06] <Nautilus> have meld running
[02:07] <Drone4four> melkor: mint@mint /media/1ad64730-ac97-42a3-8420-8e8707456937 $ file vmlinuz
[02:07] <Drone4four> vmlinuz: symbolic link to `boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-13-generic'
[02:07] <melkor> sudo file initrd.img-2.6.38-02063808-generic
[02:07] <mentoc> meld can also run in svn repositories without any options iirc
[02:08] <Drone4four> mint@mint /media/1ad64730-ac97-42a3-8420-8e8707456937 $ sudo file initrd.img-2.6.38-02063808-generic
[02:08] <Drone4four> initrd.img-2.6.38-02063808-generic: ERROR: cannot open `initrd.img-2.6.38-02063808-generic' (No such file or directory)
[02:08] <melkor> Drone4four: then follow the link to the actual file. On mine vmlinuz is 32 bit but initrd is 64bit
[02:08] <melkor> ... maybe
[02:08] <sasori> until when is 10.04 supported ? i mean until what year?
[02:08] <melkor> Drone4four: I think you can edit your grub config file to point at the correct partition no?
[02:08] <melkor> Ill be right back I need to reboot.
[02:09] <xangua> sasori: 2013 desktop
[02:09] <xangua> 3 years desktop, 5 server sasori
[02:09] <sasori> is that the longest supported distro of ubuntu ?
[02:11] <jrib> sasori: what do you mean?  All non-LTS releases are supported for 18 months.  LTS releases are supported for 3 years on the desktop and 5 on the server
[02:12] <Nautilus> with meld, I don't want to see files listed that are the same (many many files, just looking for a few different ones)
[02:12] <jeff2365> sasori: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases#Table_of_versions
[02:12] <Nautilus> I turned off the "Same" flag but they're still listed :(
[02:13] <rhafi> helo..
[02:13] <Nautilus> or hm, maybe it's not doing that. looking more
[02:13] <sasori> i see, thanks for the infos :)
[02:13] <rhafi> may a know u?
[02:15] <melkor> Drone4four: I'm stumped, I cannot get the install disk to work.
[02:16] <Ghostx562> melkor, boot from usb?
[02:16] <melkor> Ghostx562: I don't know if that is possible.
[02:16] <Ghostx562> it is possible
[02:16] <Ghostx562> i did it with my 2001 pc
[02:16] <Drone4four> lol
[02:16] <melkor> Ghostx562: I'm trying to install mint.
[02:17] <Ghostx562> im sure you have something newer than what im using
[02:17] <sasori> 386 ? XD
[02:17] <Ghostx562> 1 sec melkor
[02:17] <Drone4four> melkor: just made an additional post to my thread in the Linux Mint forums with a copy and paste of my boot/ directory: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=86709&p=501367#p501367
[02:17] <Ghostx562> melkor http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-linux-mint-install-from-windows/
[02:18] <Drone4four> by the way, thanks melkor, for going to all this trouble to help me
[02:18] <Ghostx562> grab the pen drive linux app
[02:18] <Drone4four> i really appreciate this
[02:18] <Ghostx562> download the iso
[02:18] <Ghostx562> select a usb drive
[02:18] <Ghostx562> run the program
[02:18] <FloodBot1> Ghostx562: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:18] <Ghostx562> reboot pc
[02:18] <Ghostx562> then install it from the usb easy as pie
[02:19] <uzr007> Hi
[02:19] <melkor> Ghostx562: I think the problem is the kernel. I have never booted into the 3.0.x kernel.
[02:20] <Ghostx562> melkor, use a newer OS?
[02:20] <melkor> Ghostx562: what are you talking about.
[02:20] <Ghostx562> or diff version
[02:20] <Ghostx562> i meant
[02:20] <uzr007> tar.bz2 how do you install this file?
[02:21] <uzr007> does anybody know that?
[02:21] <xangua> !compile | uzr007
[02:21] <kcw45> uzr007, tar.bz2 is probably a source code archive
[02:21] <uzr007> I want to install sunbird @ ubuntu 11.10
[02:21] <Nautilus> meld: ok, these files look like they're different... red in left pane and red in right pane... I don't want to know the exact diffs, but geez how about date or filesize?  There is no "Properties" if I right-click
[02:21] <xangua> uzr007: just extract it and run it
[02:22] <uzr007> xangua, I have extracted it I don't know how to run it
[02:22] <melkor> uzr007: go into the directory, ./configure and then make.
[02:22] <kcw45> uzr007, you would need to extract it, and run the usual utilities to install (make, sudo make install)
[02:23] <xangua> uzr007: i believe it is already on the repository, yes there is
[02:23] <jizzy> #php
[02:23] <kcw45> is sunbird not in the repos?
[02:23] <xangua> !info sunbird | uzr007
[02:23] <uzr007> does not exist
[02:23] <Ghostx562> uzr007, why not use thunderbird or lightning?
[02:24] <kcw45> true, i used lightning before as a thunderbird plugin
[02:24] <naptastic> Does the Apache that comes with Ubuntu have mod_expires?
[02:24] <uzr007> Ghostx562, there is no calendar in tunderbird as far as i know
[02:24] <naptastic> Also mod_deflate?
[02:24] <giiker> having an issue when authenticating after getting notice of updates, After tipying my passwd the authentication scren doesn't go away even though it does authenticate me
[02:25] <killown> unity has dual monitor support?
[02:25] <melkor> naptastic: you might have to enable it.
[02:25] <xangua> uzr007: lightning is the calendar addon for thunderbird
[02:25] <xangua> lightning and sunbird are the same, the only diference is sunbird is stand alone
[02:27] <naptastic> melkor, I enabled it, and I see it in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled
[02:27] <MikeH> Hi guys, just installing Ubuntu Server under ESXi. I have one virtual drive which has / and swap, and three RDM drives in softraid5.
[02:27] <MikeH> The install fails on grub install
[02:27] <naptastic> melkor, but images are still not being cached... I have caching rules set up in my .htaccess file. Should I add them to httpd.conf?
[02:27] <dissipate> anyone know what is wrong with this? tar -czvf mainapp4.tar.gz --exclude "/home/steve/mainapp/.git/" mainapp     it's not excluding the .git folder though.
[02:27] <dissipate> ubuntu 11.10
[02:27] <uzr007> xangua, sorry for my noobity, but where do you find it after you add it
[02:27] <uzr007> to thunderbird
[02:27] <MikeH> I've tried grub-installer /dev/sda1 ( / part), but get wrong number of args: mapdevfs <path>
[02:28] <Ghostx562> is it possible to get "themes" for 11.10?
[02:28] <killown> unity has dual monitor support?
[02:29] <xangua> there should be a tab or a button for task, long time since i used thunderbird uzr007
[02:30] <Ghostx562> on 11.10 click the top tab/button
[02:30] <Ghostx562> and type thunderbird
[02:30] <Ghostx562> you can open it there or drag it down to the dock and its stays there
[02:31] <kcw45> has anyone else using a combination of oneiric and open source ati drivers experienced any graphical issues on boot?  for me a lot of times, there will be artifacts (not too concerned) before lightdm shows, and occasionally there is a quick flash of a 'screenshot' from a previous session (very concerned).  the card is rv770 (radeon hd 4850)
[02:35] <MikeH> hrm
[02:35] <MikeH> grub-install seems to have installed grub
[02:35] <MikeH> but not any config? How is this generated?
[02:35] <giiker> having an issue when authenticating after getting notice of updates, After typying my passwd the authentication window doesn't go away even though it does authenticate me
[02:35] <naptastic> MikeH, sudo update-grub will generate /boot/grub/grub.cfg for you
[02:36] <MikeH> naptastic, any other steps from there?
[02:36] <uzr007> i give up
[02:36] <MikeH> Do I need to run grub or something to load the new config, or is this defunct in grub2?
[02:36] <uzr007> DOES ANYBODY KNOW A GOOD CALENDAR FOR UBUNTU (NO EVOLUTION)
[02:36] <naptastic> MikeH, less /boot/grub/grub.cfg to make sure it says what you think it should say?
[02:37] <melkor> nice unetbootin lets you select a kernel.
[02:37] <xangua> !caps | uzr007
[02:37] <zaffy> MikeH, take a look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[02:37] <naptastic> MikeH, the config gets read on boot, so no, update-grub is all you need to do.
[02:37] <naptastic> uzr007, if you get no response, it just means no one knows the answer to your question. We're not ignoring you.
[02:37] <uzr007> Sorry
[02:40] <jakupl> uzr007: Sunbird
[02:40] <jakupl> jakupl: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/
[02:40] <uzr007> jakupl, it's not compatible with ubuntu 11.10
[02:42] <giiker> uzr007: have you triend rainlendar?  http://www.rainlendar.net/cms/index.php
[02:43] <jakupl> uzr007: what about Lightning
[02:43] <jakupl> ?
[02:43] <melkor> uzr007: why do you say it is not compatible?
[02:43] <uzr007> melkor, because when I try to install addon i get the message which says its not compatible
[02:44] <jakupl> uzr007: calendar.google.com
[02:44] <kcw45> uzr007, if you extract that sunbird-1.0b1.tar.bz2 file you download... it should have a file in it called sunbird that you can just execute
[02:44] <melkor> uzr007: okay so you are trying to install the add on to thunderbird?
[02:44] <kcw45> uzr007,  i don't think it's in the repos though
[02:45] <uzr007> melkor, well I was trying to install it manually first
[02:45] <Macer> omg the suspend to disk and suspend to ram is totally broken
[02:45] <uzr007> i couldnot figure it out
[02:45] <uzr007> then I tried addon
[02:45] <uzr007> worked neither
[02:45] <Macer> even telling my box to shut down causes a reboot
[02:45] <Macer> wth?
[02:45] <melkor> uzr007: http://brizoma.wordpress.com/2010/05/04/sunbird-and-lightning-removed-from-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/
[02:46] <Macer> anybody know why?
[02:46] <uzr007> i'm pretty new to compiling
[02:46] <xangua> uzr007: you don't compile anything, mozilla already gives you the binary, just extract it and run it
[02:47] <uzr007> xangua, I extracted the file I don't know how to run it
[02:47] <melkor> uzr007: When you have the .tar.bz file you should have a readme in there.
[02:47] <xangua> lightning is on my lucid repository melkor uzr007 but not on oneiric it looks, lightning is on oneiric ;)
[02:47] <xangua> melkor: you can also download lightning from thunderbird addon tab
[02:47] <xangua> uzr007: see above ;)
[02:48] <melkor> xangua: thanks.
[02:48] <joe_> hey, just reinstalled ubuntu on a new ssd drive
[02:48] <joe_> just having trouble exploring the network?
[02:48] <sharpK> Ubuntu Desktop 10.10 Samba share -> I installed it, open it up, asks for a password, I enter it, and it goes away and does nothing.
[02:48] <sharpK> Does this every time
[02:49] <sharpK> anyone know hwat's going on? or have a better solution for sharing across a windows network from an ubuntu desktop home server?
[02:49] <Macer> screw this
[02:49] <Macer> i bet windows 7 goes to sleep properly
[02:49] <Corey> Macer: You seem frustrated.
[02:49] <Macer> reasons like this are why linux will never be mainstream in comparison to closed operating systems
[02:49] <Corey> ACPI is a bit tricky on some laptops, what're you running for hardware?
[02:50] <Macer> it is a desktop
[02:50] <uzr007> xangua, if you have your map in downloads how do you get ./compile
[02:50] <Corey> ...or you can throw a hissy fit.  Nevermind.
[02:50] <Macer> tan s2881
[02:50] <Macer> tyan
[02:50] <uzr007> I'm sorry i just don't know how to
[02:50] <melkor> Macer: suspend's usually suck. You might need to google your computer and linux suspend to see if other people have gotten it to work.
[02:50] <uzr007> and I really want to find out
[02:50] <Macer> melkor: i have been doing that for over an hour
[02:50] <joe_> hmm, getting stuck exploring the network?
[02:50] <joe_> what should i do?
[02:50] <Macer> fail.
[02:50] <joe_> the firewall is off
[02:50] <naptastic> Macer, The computer I'm on right now is the only computer I've ever had for which Linux suspend has ever worked, and it's only some of the time.
[02:51] <melkor> Macer: have you found other people with the same problem?
[02:51] <Macer> even shutting down the system causes a reboot
[02:51] <Macer> SHUTTING DOWN
[02:51] <Macer> ie: turn off
[02:51] <Macer> :)
[02:51] <FloodBot1> Macer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:51] <joe_> zzz
[02:51] <naptastic> Macer, What kind of machine (specifically, what motherboard) is this?
[02:52] <Macer> tyan s2881
[02:52] <naptastic> Sorry; I see you said that already
[02:53] <naptastic> Macer, that's a sweet motherboard!! The typical use case for such a sytem probably doesn't include turning it off or suspending though.
[02:53] <Macer> honestly. never mind. i honestly dont have time to fiddle with something that has been beoken in linux for years ;) i will just put windows on it. it is a shame because i really love kubuntu
[02:53] <Macer> but i need the suspend to work
[02:54] <giiker> Macer: I've had your same problem for years now on my box, but strangely enough  it worked on my laptop after enabling ACPI
[02:54] <melkor> Macer: you can try another kernel too if you like.
[02:55] <Macer> melkor: well.. that is even more of a pain. especially if i am forced to build one
[02:55] <Macer> and not even know if it will work
[02:55] <naptastic> Macer, well I'mma leave right now to go play TF2... on Windows. So take all this with some salt. ;-)
[02:55] <Macer> lol
[02:55] <Macer> sounds like a plan
[02:55] <naptastic> Take care man. Good luck.
[02:55] <killown> unity has dual monitor support?
[02:56] <Macer> but seriously. linux needs to get its act together when it comes to stuff like this
[02:56] <MikeH> Is it normal for mdadm to do a resync immediately after a fresh install with no data on the drive?
[02:56] <Macer> why can windows easily work with hibernating all machines but linux cant seem to get it right across different systems?
[02:57] <melkor> Macer: hibernate/suspend are pretty low on the list. Especially when you get to hardware a lot of people don't have.
[02:58] <Macer> melkor: that doesnt explain why windows manages to do it so easily. what do they know that linux devs dont when it comes to power states?
[02:58] <melkor> Macer: It is a community effort, and maybe nobody has come across this problem with your specific configuration. There are ways to debug and figure it out and essentially help the community.
[02:58] <melkor> Macer: they do not do it easily.
[02:58] <Macer> u have never seen a system that windows has failed to suspend
[02:58] <Macer> u/i
[02:58] <melkor> Macer: And they paid a lot of good money for that to happen.
[02:59] <killown> Does anyone help me xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default?
[02:59] <Macer> i am sure the code is similar across the board
[02:59] <melkor> Macer: then do something about it.
[02:59] <Macer> there are probably 5 different ways mboards handle it
[02:59] <sharpK> hm
[02:59] <Macer> and windows detects and changes to adapt to the particular board
[03:00] <Macer> melkor: i would but the code is such an absolute mess ;)
[03:00] <Macer> blah. thanks anyways.
[03:00] <Macer> i have to go
[03:02] <ziggyfish> ubuntu is starting to annoy me, I can't run mysql workbench in ubuntu 11.10, I have to use a fedora virtual machine to run it.
[03:03] <ziggyfish> how ridiculous is that? And when you report the bug, they either don't listen to you or go on the defensive and say "why don't you fix it"
[03:04] <w30> Macer, try  uswsusp deb, it contains s2disk and s2ram commands that work for me.
[03:07] <Phr3d13> !ot
[03:07] <w30> Macer, look at this:ftp://98.213.59.214/pub/temp/suspend_fix.txt
[03:07] <doeeeli> Macer: maybe you changed an alias
[03:07] <melkor> wow, ibus sucks.
[03:08] <Pedrolito> Hi, I have the following problem:  sometimes, the context menu that appears when I right click somewhere doesn't disappear when it is supposed to.  I get stuck with a rectangle that displays the pixels that were under it when it was created, that is always on top and displayed on all the desktops.  Is there a way to get rid of these rectangles?  Because the only solution I have found to work for now is to logout and log back in, which is
[03:08] <Pedrolito>  extremely inconvenient when something is running.
[03:08] <modulexploited> suddenly every mounted volume is being detected as a READ-ONLY file system. my FAT32 USB drive, NTFS External Hardisk and my other NTFS partitions. Is this an issue with the latest UBUNTU 11.10 upgrade ??
[03:08] <sharpK> Ubuntu Desktop 10.10 Samba share -> I installed it, open it up, asks for a password, I enter it, and it goes away and does nothing.
[03:08] <sharpK> Does this every time
[03:08] <sharpK> anyone know hwat's going on? or have a better solution for sharing across a windows network from an ubuntu desktop home server?
[03:09] <escott> modulexploited, i would verify that you are using the fuse driver for the ntfs drives and not the in kernel ntfs driver
[03:09] <trism> ziggyfish: http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=62347 has workarounds, a patch and a ppa with a patched build you could try
[03:09] <modulexploited> escott: how do I verify ?
[03:10] <l0n> sharpK if it's just for occasional file transfers just use SCP or SFTP
[03:10] <escott> modulexploited, type "mount" at a command line (no options) and it will list what is mounted and with what filesystem
[03:11] <sharpK> 10n can scp or sftp be used to share/stream video/music/and modify files?
[03:11] <sharpK> 10n : and would it be easily accessible from various windows computers?
[03:11] <melkor> sharpK: yes, although there are other options.
[03:11] <sharpK> melkor: are any alternatives to SCP or SFTP better for these purposes?
[03:12] <sharpK> it's basically a small home server
[03:12] <modulexploited> escott: this is the result : http://pastebin.com/FEcMiBQb
[03:12] <melkor> sharpK: I have used ssh/scp with sshfs which makes a remote hard drive look like a local one.
[03:12] <melkor> sharpK: You might want to google 'ubuntu media server'
[03:13] <melkor> sharpK: How will people be accessing the files?
[03:13] <Phr3d13> !google
[03:13] <escott> modulexploited, so sdb2 is mounted wrong. ntfs is the in kernel driver which is ro. you want /dev/sda2 on /media/WIN7 type fuseblk
[03:13] <escott> modulexploited, did you put an entry in your fstab?
[03:14] <ziggyfish> trism: unfortunately those work arrounds don't work
[03:14] <melkor> Phr3d13: ... I don't think that was applicable here.
[03:14] <l0n> sharpK another alternative is nfs although it can be a bit of a pain to get the client working on Windows
[03:14] <bluebomber> Is there a way in 11.10 to "alt-tab" (app-switch) between apps only on the current workspace?
[03:14] <sharpK> melkor: There are basically 4 or so windows computers on the network, I have a 5th computer with ubuntu installed and want it to act as a home server so that the windwos computers can stream media/music off of it, store (hopefully incremental) backups and other files, among other home server functions...
[03:14] <modulexploited> No I did not do anything.. It was all working fine a couple of hours ago.. I upgraded using "apt-get upgrade" and restarted the machine. And thats all..
[03:15] <modulexploited> escott: No I did not do anything.. It was all working fine a couple of hours ago.. I upgraded using "apt-get upgrade" and restarted the machine. And thats all..
[03:15] <melkor> sharpK: There is samba, which lets you share a drive as on a windows network.
[03:15] <Phr3d13> I do, you should have googled it and then pasted him a link
[03:15] <sharpK> melkor: right, I just installed it, and like i said above, it opens up, asks for a password, I enter it, and it goes away
[03:15] <escott> modulexploited, make sure ntfs-3g is installed. im not sure what would cause this, but its why you are not able to write to the ntfs drives
[03:15] <sharpK> melkor: is it possible that samba is bugged on 10.10?
[03:16] <melkor> sharpK: what do you mean? It should just start the samba service and then other computers can access your computer.
[03:17] <sharpK> They can see the ubuntu computer, but windows has an error when trying to access a shared folder on the server
[03:17] <sharpK> thought there might be some settings that need to be twaekewd
[03:17] <sharpK> but don't know how to access em
[03:17] <escott> sharpK, there is a gui for samba config you might want to look at
[03:17] <melkor> sharpK: what is the windows computer error?
[03:17] <escott> !samba | sharpK
[03:17] <ziggyfish> trism: fedora has a package for it, that I don't need to download from a the oracle site
[03:18] <sharpK> melkor: windows cannot access \\Server\share --- check the spelling of the name...blahblah...
[03:18] <sharpK> escott: I will check that out, thanks
[03:18] <melkor> sharpK: If you haven't configured it yet, you might not have a directory available.
[03:18] <sharpK> melkor: I'll read up and look at it
[03:20] <ziggyfish> sharpK: did you reboot after to unstalled samba?
[03:20] <sharpK> ziggyfish: can't remember it was yesterday, but I'll give it a go
[03:21] <ziggyfish> sharpK: the other question is are you sharing any folders?
[03:21] <uzr007> jakupl, this is one final question
[03:21] <jakupl> uzr007: yeah?
[03:22] <uzr007> jakupl, I have downloaded this sundbird folder and extracted it in downloads file
[03:22] <sharpK> ziggyfish: yes, I have a folder on the desktop I shared
[03:22] <modulexploited> escott: I am a little confused with this.. I am going to restart the laptop. i will get back into the channel in a bit.
[03:22] <sharpK> but like I said, windows has an error trying toa acces it
[03:22] <uzr007> jakupl, how do I do ./configure
[03:22] <uzr007> ?
[03:22] <sharpK> it can see it, but gives me an error (I described it above)
[03:23] <uzr007> jakupl, I get the message no such a directory
[03:23] <jakupl> you have to cd into the folder
[03:23] <uzr007> jakupl, cd? what do you mean?
[03:23] <Pedrolito> Sometimes, the context menu that appears when I right click somewhere doesn't disappear when it is supposed to.  There remains a rectangle that displays the pixels that were under it when it was created, that is always on top and displayed on all the desktops.  Is there a way to get rid of these rectangles?  The only solution I have found to work for now is to logout and log back in.
[03:23] <jakupl> Change Directory
[03:24] <uzr007> jakupl, you mean, I should place that folder another place?
[03:24] <rchilso1> How do I get 11.10 to login using the classic gnome2 desktop
[03:24] <jakupl> so command is "cd Downloads/Sonbird"
[03:24] <kcw45> uzr007, if this is still sunbird issue, try 'cd /path/to/sunbird', then just './sunbird'... do it in a terminal window
[03:24] <jakupl> or whatever the folder is called
[03:24] <jakupl> no
[03:24] <jakupl> in terminal
[03:24] <uzr007> kcw45, thank you :-)
[03:24] <oddie> I have a samba server that I can write to on my windows machine, when logging into the server through ubuntu I cannot write to the directory. It can't be a permission issue as all windows PC with the same login can access and create folders (4 other windows pc's). Is it possible that linux is logging in as a guest and not the writable user?
[03:25] <uzr007> kcw45, no such file or directory
[03:25] <wad> I'm migrating my email server (postfix, dovecot) from an old debian box to a new Ubuntu box. But Ubuntu doesn't seem to do dovecot... what are people using these days for an imap service?
[03:26] <wad> I'm using maildir.
[03:26] <kcw45> uzr007, alright, hang on a sec
[03:28] <rchilso1> Is there a way to make the gnome2 enviroment my default login?
[03:30] <cipherboy> rchilso1: shouldn't it save between sessions?
[03:31] <rchilso1> I just installed and only have unity to choose from
[03:31] <immysl> Good Day everybody!
[03:31] <cipherboy> rchilso1: the current version? (11.10)?
[03:31] <rchilso1> I cannot find where to switch it at.
[03:32] <rchilso1> yes version 11.10
[03:32] <cipherboy> rchilso1: 11.10 doesn't have gnome2.
[03:32] <rchilso1> kk thanks
[03:33] <sgentle> heya... I'm having some gnarly problems with 11.10 and my macbook pro's graphics, can anyone lend a hand?
[03:34] <cipherboy> sgentle: whats the issue?
[03:34] <modulexploited> escott: i restarted the machine just to see if it mounts properly this time.
[03:35] <zacktu> update manager says that it configuring linux-image-3.0.0-13-generic, but has come to a halt -- if i look at details i can see that there is a question "rated for you" with a y or n alongside -- i've tried to see the rest of the question, but the usual back arrow doesn't work -- now i've lost the question and the ability to answer -- i've never seen this before -- the cancel button is...
[03:35] <zacktu> ...inactive -- is it okay to kill the update manager process?
[03:35] <modulexploited> escott: I was trying to install ntfs-3g. It promts to remove ntfsprogs, if I install that.. Is that ok ?
[03:35] <sgentle> I'm trying to boot from the livecd, but I get graphical glitches everywhere
[03:36] <Jordan_U> !notunity | rchilso1
[03:36] <sgentle> and it halts on a messed up version of the boot logo
[03:36] <sgentle> I tried nomodeset, which works in the sense that it boots
[03:36] <sgentle> but I get no graphics
[03:36] <Nautilus> sgentle: run memtest to be sure thats ok?
[03:36] <sgentle> if I try to startx, I get "vbios address 0xd00 out of range"
[03:37] <sgentle> I'll give it a crack, but I've been running os x and windows without issue on the same machine for a while
[03:37] <Nautilus> sgentle: also check on-board graphics settings, eg: if you added a card but on-board is still on?
[03:38] <Nautilus> i only suggest memtest because it's easy and can't hurt.  never know.
[03:38] <sgentle> yeah, absolutely - I wouldn't be surprised at this point
[03:39] <sgentle> it's a macbok pro, so in a sense it has on-board and discrete graphics by design :/
[03:39] <Pedrolito> Sometimes, the context menu that appears when I right click somewhere doesn't disappear when it is supposed to.  There remains a rectangle that displays the pixels that were under it when it was created, that is always on top and displayed on all the desktops.  Is there a way to get rid of these rectangles?  The only solution I have found to work for now is to logout and log back in.
[03:40] <modulexploited> Nautilus: All my mount volumes (NTFS other partitions and external Hard Disks) are being recognized as read-only file systems after an upgrade. I am using Ubuntu 11.10. Any thoughts.. ?
[03:41] <sharpK> when sharing a folder using samba share, do I just share it and set the group permission to sambashare?
[03:41] <sharpK> or do I not even need to bother with that?
[03:41] <xeocs> please help!! how to change gnome logging window's title? it always show (null)...
[03:41] <escott> modulexploited, i guess. im not sure what ntfsprogs does
[03:42] <geohacker> Trying to set "do nothing" while laptop lid is closed. but that doesn't seem to work. I'm on 11.04. any clue?
[03:42] <melkor> geohacker: are you using gnome3/unity?
[03:42] <escott> modulexploited, supposedly ntfsprogs was merged with ntfs-3g i think you want the 3g
[03:43] <melkor> Is vfat fat32?
[03:43] <geohacker> melkor, gnome2. I chose default from the startup.
[03:43] <xeocs> any one help me with gnome3's logging window title?
[03:43] <melkor> geohacker: are you using a second monitor?
[03:43] <tripelb> hi, I want to know if 11,04 comes with IRC because there is no IRC with 10.04 and I _need_ to have it for this "project".   (thanks)
[03:43] <modulexploited> escott: Ok. I am installing ntfs-3g
[03:43] <geohacker> melkor, yes. but not connected right now.
[03:44] <escott> melkor, yes vfat is generic fat and includes just about everything except exfat
[03:44] <scottj> how secure is the default encrypted drive format option in ubuntu? like, for real security should I be looking at truecrypt?
[03:44] <sgentle> hm, I'm having trouble getting memtest to go
[03:44] <melkor> geohacker: mine always goes dark when I close the lid, but that is good I think.
[03:44] <sgentle> from what I've read the efi version of grub doesn't support it
[03:44] <modulexploited> escott: aaah ! Thank you very much. That fixed the problem
[03:44] <jakupl> Do you guys know anything about dnsmasq?
[03:45] <geohacker> melkor, but when using a external monitor, it is not. I just want to shut the laptop lid and work out of the external display.
[03:45] <melkor> escott: I am trying to boot from a usb drive and I don't know if I should try to reformat it.
[03:45] <melkor> geohacker: Just move your mouse and it will come back on.
[03:45] <modulexploited> Nautilus: nevermind. escott: helped me fix it.
[03:45] <geohacker> melkor, when I close the lid, it goes blank. nothing will happen if I move the mouse :)
[03:46] <melkor> geohacker: I haven't found a way that it doesn't go black, but moving the mouse makes it work as expected. It even goes black if I turn off the lid.
[03:46] <Nautilus> modulee: cool... no clue about that here ;)
[03:46] <uzr007> thank you all
[03:46] <melkor> geohacker: I don't know then, did you move the mouse in your second monitor (if it matters).
[03:46] <uzr007> I think I'll log off
[03:46] <uzr007> thanks once again
[03:46] <tripelb> Does 11.04 have an IRC client in it and if so which one?
[03:46] <geohacker> melkor, are you saying that if we close the lid while connected to a external display and move the mouse it will show up?
[03:47] <cipherboy> webchat.freenode.net :D
[03:47] <Pedrolito> oh, interesting, since nobody seemed to have an answer to my problem, I was closing my windows one by one, and when I closed chromium, the always-on-top rectangles disappeared!  So it's more a chromium bug maybe...
[03:47] <escott> scottj, the encryption should be fine for most purposes. the main concern is that it makes clear what is and what is not encrypted, and there is no possibility of a secret encrypted partition. also you have to worry about moving files to the non-encrypted partitions or being swapped out
[03:48] <escott> melkor, i wasnt following all your questions but the liveusb process should format the disk as needed
[03:49] <sharpK> when sharing a folder using samba share, do I just share it and set the group permission to sambashare?
[03:49] <sharpK> or do I not even need to bother with that?
[03:49] <melkor> escott it seems to work correctly but then I start into my normal grub.
[03:50] <escott> melkor, so whats the question
[03:50] <melkor> escott: and I did check the bios to mak sure I am booting from a usb device first.
[03:50] <melkor> escott: I cannot boot from my usb device.
[03:50] <scottj> escott: ok, the nice thing is I didn't have to install anything or configure anything. if there were like a super simple process for something better I'd do that but probably not worth my effort to read/configure very much.
[03:51] <tripelb> can ubuntu read a Mac hard drive?
[03:51] <melkor> tripelb: yes.
[03:51] <escott> tripelb, if journaling is disabled it is supposedly possible
[03:51] <tripelb> can ubuntu write on a Mac hard drive?
[03:51] <escott> tripelb, sorry my comment was for writing not reading
[03:52] <tripelb> wait yes and "supposedly possible" are two different things melkor escott
[03:52] <tripelb> ah, melkor escott. Well I can back up then, for sure.
[03:52] <melkor> tripelb: in the purest sense of can, then yes. But there are a lot of mac file systems if I'm not mistaken.
[03:52] <Rallias> Is there a guide to using truecrypt with grub2?
[03:53] <escott> melkor, so what happens when it fails to boot. what is the last thing you see
[03:53] <melkor> escott: it goes to my normal grub.
[03:54] <escott> melkor, what kind of boot option does it have for the usb
[03:54] <escott> melkor, in the bios that is
[03:54] <melkor> escott: actually it looks like it didn't edit my grub.cfg because there wasn't a usb option.
[03:55] <sgentle> alright, so here's a bizarre twist
[03:55] <tripelb> ah, melkor escott. But to restore I will need to "disable journalling" (whatever that is - on which system will the journaling need to be disabled? ubuntu or mac?  ---> which Mac OS. To read (to back up the HD before a clean install) I will use a liveCD reading a Tiger OSX10,4 HD --- after the install I will want to write on a Snow Leopard HD OSX10.5  <---  Makes me mad that Apple deliberately maes the Macbook stupid.
[03:55] <sgentle> if I boot with only-ubiquity nomodeset, x starts okay
[03:55] <scottj> anyone know if you can buy a tablet 3g sim and stick it in a laptop usb 3g data card and get $20/mo 3g on your laptop?
[03:55] <tripelb> s/maes/makes/
[03:56] <escott> tripelb, on the mac you have to do some weird things to disable journalling if you want to write. you probably dont want to disable journaling though
[03:56] <melkor> escott: external media, and then it lets me select my usb device.
[03:56] <escott> melkor, if you have multiple usb ports it might be that you need to try a different one
[03:56] <melkor> escott: I'm going to try rebooting again.
[03:56] <sgentle> so why do you suppose only-ubiquity would work when a normal boot doesn't?
[03:57] <escott> sgentle, probably has more to do with nomodeset
[03:58] <sgentle> but that's the strange thing
[03:58] <sgentle> x won't start with nomodeset
[04:00] <whoever> what ever happened to the beanie hats in the swag (gotta keep my ears worm in style)
[04:00] <escott> sgentle, unity must not be falling back to unity-2d properly
[04:01] <sgentle> hm
[04:01] <tripelb> escott. I'm stuck with a 1T HD written as ext4 (Ubuntu10.4) from my Dell that failed. Now I have a Macbook with a full 72 G HD. So I will be out to lunch on putting my data, mostly media, back on the Mac.
[04:01] <sgentle> that would cause x to not start at all?
[04:01] <sgentle> is there a way to test that? like, force unity-2d?
[04:02] <escott> sgentle, well x would start but you wouldn't have a usable gui. you could jump to tty1 and export DISPLAY=:0 and then try to unity --replace
[04:02] <escott> sgentle, except im not sure what the livecd username is
[04:03] <sgentle> just ubuntu
[04:03] <sgentle> but the behaviour I'm seeing is that x won't start at all without only-ubiquity
[04:03] <uzr007> kcw45, hi mate
[04:03] <uzr007> I have one problem more.
[04:04] <sharpK> when using samaba share, do I have to issue terminal commands to folders in order to be able to share them on a network with windwows computers, or should simply right clicking and sharing the folder work after samba is installed?
[04:04] <tripelb> Does Ubuntu 11.04 have a liveCD IRC client. I would really like to be able to ask in here if anything goes wrong while I am trying to transfer the data.
[04:05] <kcw45> kcw45, yessir?
[04:05] <escott> sgentle, saying that "x won't start" without only-ubiquity is not true. ubiquity relies upon X it just doesn't have a window manager or session manager
[04:05] <sgentle> yep, that's why I'm very confused
[04:06] <kcw45> uzr007, yessir?
[04:06] <uzr007> kcw45, remember that command ./sunbird?
[04:06] <sgentle> as in, without only-ubiquity I only get a terminal, and if I type "sudo startx" it bails with some V_BIOS error
[04:06] <uzr007> kcw45, I have to run it trough terminal every time I wan to run sunbird
[04:07] <kcw45> uzr007, yes... there are ways to ease that
[04:07] <uzr007> kcw45, how? :)
[04:19] <mathews> I did run update manager and during the process showed "not all update is not possible",I select close.Now I cannot install any soft,cannot run update mangr.
[04:20] <cipherboy> mathews, asks about dpkg?
[04:20] <VeePeeN> wonder if anyone can help me get my vpn to work?
[04:21] <VeePeeN> i can connect and set up tap0 with openvpn, but no internet after that
[04:21] <mathews> cipherboy, I did not get u
[04:21] <cipherboy> mathews: have you tried running apt-get update, and/or dpkg --configure -a?
[04:22] <mathews> cipherboy, Ya,I added one ppa of gnome and typed upgrade in the terminal
[04:23] <cipherboy> mathews: did it failewith an error?
[04:23] <cipherboy> *fail with
[04:24] <mathews> cipherboy, it said something downloaded or added like that,after that I ran the update manager
[04:25] <mathews> cipherboy, after restart everything changed,like windows button missing,programs on the launcher missing.....
[04:25] <cipherboy> Oh. What gnome ppa did you add? gnome3?
[04:25] <cipherboy> And what version of Ubuntu? (sorry, haven't been following channel)
[04:27] <mathews> cipherboy, 11.04, the ppa is ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
[04:27] <mathews> this channel not shows all the texts of what we entered
[04:28] <melkor> Found it, I had the boot options switched in the bios, but that didn't do anything I have to hit esc when it boots and I get a boot option window.
[04:29] <like_summer> 早啊各位~
[04:29] <VeePeeN> anyone ever set up a vpntunnel.se?
[04:30] <cipherboy> mathews: generally that ppa doesn't work for upgrading from gnome2 to gnome3
[04:30] <VeePeeN> having major frustrations here
[04:30] <like_summer> 大家的英文都真好啊，都没人说汉语呢。。。。
[04:30] <mathews> cipherboy, that ppa is in the omg page and for installing the gnome browser
[04:33] <melkor> !cn
[04:33] <fmaker> Building a deb for ubuntu was much easier than an rpm for Fedora
[04:37] <skilz> Whats a good program to rip audio cds, I use audacious to play music but I dont think it rips?
[04:38] <tim42> I'm trying to get an Apple ImageWriter II working in 11.10 with a Keyspan USB-28XB USB-to-Serial adapter. Adapter is working (/dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1 show up) and I can add the printer via CUPS with the iwhi driver and test pages come out fine. Thing is: I don't want that driver, I just want *plain text* - that is, just send the characters out to the printer. Can't figure that bit out. Suggestions?
[04:40] <solringel> im new to linux and im looking for a way to extract RAR archives. 
[04:40] <overdub> solid_liq: unrar
[04:43] <solringel> solid_liq how to get unrar?
[04:46] <spray__> So uh, Google is useless.  How do I get a parallel port working?
[04:46] <spray__> It assumes I want to print, I just want to unbrick my router with a JTAG cable
[04:48] <spray__> I have lp0 and parport0 devices, permissions are correct.  Just for some reason, I can't USE either
[04:49] <_spray> Much better, I enjoy my underscores before me.  Makes me up top.  Almost as cool as that plus-v
[04:49] <scottj> serial and parallel ports, this all reminds me of how many hours I used to waste trying to get PPP/modem stuff working
[04:49] <_spray> scottj, don't even remind me of those days.  Literal man-days were wasted trying to get ppp-up scripts to work.
[04:50] <_spray> We're in the future I thought, this kind of stuff should just work already
[04:51] <_spray> I mean, worst case scenario I put XP on another hard drive.  I mean, I swore a year ago that I would never run Windows natively again.  So I'm torn.
[04:56] <solringel> does anyone know if there is a program out there to manage my music on my iphone with ubuntu?
[04:56] <almoxarife> solringel: the music is on the iphone?
[04:57] <solringel> yes
[04:58] <almoxarife> solringel: but you want to have an external os managing it?
[04:59] <solringel> i have a windows pc as well that has itunes but my laptop is now running ubuntu was just wondering if there is way to manage the music with ubuntu
[04:59] <sagaci> http://paste.ubuntu.com/751084/
[04:59] <sagaci> why doesn't it try to install libdvdcss2, being a suggests
[05:01] <mediat0r> I added a ppa from command line on my server and it is 404ing (I guess it doesn't have oneric specific version). How do I remove it?
[05:02] <sagaci> mediat0r: does it show up in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:03] <mediat0r> sagaci: doesn't seem to be in there, I just double checked then
[05:04] <almoxarife> sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> mediat0r
[05:04] <solringel> how do i fix 404 errors when i do sudo apt-get update?
[05:04] <mediat0r> almoxarife: I already tried that but because the PPA is 404ing the uninstall process doesn't work
[05:05] <sagaci> solringel: try sudo apt-get update --fix-missing or try a different mirror via Software Sources
[05:05] <almoxarife> solringel: can't fix it
[05:05] <solringel> if i do that will it delete packages from those bad sources?
[05:06] <almoxarife> solringel: no
[05:06] <sagaci> solringel: do you use just the normal repos or have you added new ones, like ppas, etc
[05:06] <geoffmcc> mediat0r: /etc/apt/sources.list.d . delete the ppa entrys and then do an apt-get update
[05:06] <skilz> whats a good gtk program to change monitor brightness/color settings?
[05:06] <sagaci> solringel: no, it won't delete packages
[05:07] <solringel> i added some ppa's
[05:07] <solringel> could be the server for those sources are down
[05:07] <sagaci> solringel: can you pastebin an apt-get update?
[05:07] <mediat0r> almoxarife: http://paste.ubuntu.com/751087/
[05:08] <solringel> sagasi: will do just give me a sec
[05:09] <almoxarife> mediat0r: https://launchpad.net/~dreamstudio/+archive/audio < try that ppa
[05:09] <mediat0r> geoffmcc: that totally worked! thanks mate :)
[05:09] <almoxarife> mediat0r: look at installing why-ppa-manager
[05:09] <solringel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/751089/
[05:10] <almoxarife> mediat0r: look at installing y-ppa-manager
[05:10] <geoffmcc> mediat0r: also just found that add-apt-repository -r would have worked too
[05:10] <mediat0r> almoxarife: i'll take a look at those managers :)
[05:11] <mediat0r> geoffmcc: cool! that would have been eaiser, should have read the man :P
[05:11] <mediat0r> ty all for help
[05:12] <solringel> sagasi: did u get the link?
[05:14] <sagaci> solringel: yep, but unfortunately I'm out for a while
[05:15] <solringel> sagaci: in how long will u be back?
[05:16] <solringel> maybe someone else on here can help me out with 404 errors i am getting when i do an apt-get update?
[05:16] <solringel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/751089/
[05:19] <almoxarife> solringel: you are getting 404 because of two possible reasons, 1. your version is not supported or 2. the site is down
[05:21] <solringel> almoxarife: thanks
[05:22] <almoxarife> solringel: consider installing y-ppa-manager, it finds ppa's for your version when they exist
[05:23] <solringel> how do i add it
[05:23] <almoxarife> solringel: by finding the ppa for y-ppa-manager :)
[05:26] <almoxarife> solringel: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/y-ppa-manager
[05:27] <SilverFox> Guest58177, you should rethink running irc client as root user.
[05:27] <Guest58177> Ok
[05:27] <solringel> thnaks
[05:28] <Guest58177> I use xchat firstly.
[05:29] <almoxarife> solringel: btw, unless you are on a server there is no need to do all that terminal apt-get stuff, install 'synaptic' let the gui do the hard work
[05:29] <Guest58177> It is well using
[05:30] <sherefe> Hello guys
[05:30] <solringel> i ant install y-ppa http://paste.ubuntu.com/751094/
[05:31] <mrpink57> it's good to at least learn terminal commands
[05:32] <sherefe> Is it possible to listen for radio streams in internet via audacity using m3u extention ?
[05:32] <almoxarife> solringel: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/y-ppa-manager-0084-released-finally.html <-- read
[05:33] <solringel> almoxarife: thanks
[05:33] <almoxarife> sherefe: if not, vlc can
[05:33] <almoxarife> sherefe: and totem too
[05:33] <sherefe> almostroot i got thanx
[05:34] <sherefe> ohhm sorry
[05:34] <sherefe> almoxarife thank you
[05:34] <almoxarife> sherefe: you welcome
[05:36] <ksbalaji> I need to put wavy lines as borders for my OO text. How do I go about it? I could not get help from oo channel. sorry to present here. But, I trust this channel for bright help.
[05:38] <roasted> given the choice, what's more compatible/easier to deal with when it comes to media players and linux? MSC or MTP?
[05:40] <phix> hey real quick, what is the command to find out what deb package a file belongs to?
[05:41] <ubuntumarx> #wii rayman origins
[05:41] <_cb> I think that when I installed Ubuntu 9.10 I set up one partition for data and one partition for Ubuntu. How can I verify that?
[05:41] <phix> I want to know which package installed files in /usr/java/packages/lib/ext and broke my compiler
[05:41] <abhijit> hi. gnome3 scrollbars are not working inside xmind. help. how to i tell xind to use traditional scroll bars?
[05:41] <phix> so I can abuse the maintainer
[05:42] <phix> _cb: df -Th
[05:42] <phix> _cb: or cat /etc/fstab
[05:42] <the_3f_rule> Anyone have any insight on errno 5 input output install errors and ram?
[05:42] <llutz_> phix: dpkg -S file
[05:42] <phix> _cb: but remember that in linux all filesystems are mounted at a directory point
[05:42] <phix> llutz_: thnx
[05:42] <solringel> now im getting an error when i try doing an update  http://paste.ubuntu.com/751100/
[05:43] <Guest96120> anyone know of a free swf editor for actionscript
[05:43] <_cb> phix reason I am asking is that if I have my data in one partition and ubuntu in another I can install the newest version of Ubuntu in the Ubuntu partition
[05:44] <phix> _cb: you know how unix / linux filesystem hierachy is setup?  there is a single root point, not multiple root points like in windows
[05:44] <almoxarife> solringel: saw that too before, and yes, you must manually remove the 'ain' from line three of the file shown, and yes, required admin privs
[05:45] <_cb> phix not really.
[05:45] <phix> _cb: if you update ubuntu it shouldn't touch files in /srv or /home for example because they are not the standard locations to install files, /usr /var/lib usually are
[05:46] <phix> _cb: ok well in windows you have A: B: C: D: etc... each one contains one filesystem (sort of unles you use junction points but I am assuming you havnt heard of them)
[05:46] <Crash-OD> any help with the for a free swf editor?
[05:46] <_cb> I tried the update once before and it did not work too well for me. That is the reason I was thinking about doing a clean install as long as my data was on a separate partition
[05:47] <the_3f_rule> Nothing?
[05:47] <phix> _cb: in linux everything in under / , you mount a filesystem in a directory, so everything in that directory is then on a different file system,   so you can create a partition, format it with a filesystem and mount it under any directory you want, you cn put it as /srv, /mnt/harddrive, /where/ever/you/like
[05:47] <Abhijit> hi. gnome3 scrollbars are not working inside xmind. help. how to i tell xind to use traditional scroll bars?
[05:47] <solringel> almoxarife: i need root privileges to edit the sources file but how can i just edit it through terminal>
[05:47] <phix> _cb: you should be keeping your own files away from locations where ubuntu installs its files
[05:47] <solringel> ?
[05:48] <phix> _cb: ubuntu usually needs stuff under /usr and /var/libm so try not to put your own data under there
[05:48] <huamm_> how to make my terminal like this - http://bowoganteng.tk/gambar
[05:48] <almoxarife> solringel: are you on a server
[05:48] <almoxarife> solringel: are you on a server?????????
[05:48] <phix> _cb: keeping everything in /srv/ or under your home directory is the safest bet
[05:48] <solringel> nope no server
[05:48] <phix> solringel: use sudo
[05:48] <almoxarife> solringel: what's wrong with gedit?
[05:48] <huamm_> coloring
[05:49] <_cb> did a df -Th and that refreshed my memory. I have boot, home, tmp, usr, var  on it's own partition
[05:49] <solringel> im new to linux i just dont know how to use terminal
[05:49] <phix> solringel: xhost +; sudo DISPLAY=:0 gedit /some/file; xhost -
[05:49] <_cb> Also have a mydata partition where all my data resides and shared with XP on a dual boot system
[05:49] <phix> solringel: you ever used a dos prompt before?
[05:50] <solringel> how whould i do that command if i want to edit the sources.list file?
[05:50] <phix> _cb: ok, that is fine, the filesystem will probably be fat32 or ntfs so just mount it somewhere, /mnt/C for C drive is what I usually do
[05:50] <solringel> nope never used dos b4
[05:50] <llutz_> phix: there's "gksudo", don't use sudo for gui-apps and no need for that xhost-stuff
[05:50] <almoxarife> solringel: type this            gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/webupd8team-gnome3-precise.list
[05:50] <phix> llutz_: ah ok :)  I am old school
[05:50] <tripelb> Does 11.04 have an IRC client in it and if so which one?
[05:50] <llutz_> phix: xhost +    is evil and not old school
[05:51] <phix> llutz_: yeah but it works :)
[05:51] <llutz_> phix: pls don't suggest those things here
[05:51] <phix> ok
[05:51] <ubuntumarx> ciao
[05:51] <huamm_> omg
[05:51] <Abhijit> hi. gnome3 scrollbars are not working inside xmind. help. how to i tell xind to use traditional scroll bars?
[05:51] <ubuntumarx> !list
[05:52] <phix> ubuntumarx: haha
[05:52] <llutz_> tripelb: it should come with irssi + xchat
[05:52] <solringel> thanks it works now other than the 404 errors but all is good now thanks for the help as i am very new to linux and sometimes getting frusrated but i am eager to learn more
[05:52] <phix> tripelb: I use irssi
[05:52] <phix> solringel: good :) I suggest you read some of the docs at ubuntu.com or whatever the url is
[05:53] <almoxarife> solringel: install 'synaptic' if its not already installed, you are working too hard
[05:53] <phix> ~ubuntu
[05:53] <celltech> How did WINE get installed when the last program I know I tried to instal was lmms?
[05:53] <phix> !ubuntu
[05:53] <phix> there you go solringel :)
[05:53] <solringel> thanks all for the support
[05:53] <phix> any time
[05:53] <phix> <3
[05:53] <solringel> linux rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:54] <phix> woooo!!!! YEAH!!!
[05:54] <almoxarife> celltech: when I installed 'teamviewer' I found that it installed wine, sort of tricky of it
[05:54] <tripelb> llutz I've never seen a version of ubuntu with either irssi or xchat. ("should" means nothing, - It used to come with pidgin in 9.04, then none in 10.04 - "should" gives me no information.
[05:55] <phix> almoxarife: heh yeah I loled when it did that :)
[05:55] <celltech> almoxarife  So I need to go back and uninstal WINE? Cause I really want nothing to do with it. Or should I go to Synaptic and removed anything and ever with the words WINE in it?
[05:55] <llutz_> tripelb: so i was wrong, ignore me
[05:55] <phix> tripelb: it does come with empathy though
[05:55] <phix> tripelb: that can speak irc
[05:56] <tripelb> phix, I am going to use a live cd so I cant install anything. On a mac. Why? to back up my data (prior to a clean install) and all I have is an ext4 (my old ubuntu from a dead computer.)
[05:56] <almoxarife> celltech: I won't tell you what to uninstall, I would find what has caused wine to install and decide from there
[05:56] <phix> tripelb: ah, use empathy, it should be on the livecd
[05:56] <tripelb> phix empathy has NO IRC client
[05:56] <phix> tripelb: really>
[05:56] <celltech> almoxarife I just want wine gone. it's useless
[05:56] <tripelb> didnt in 1004 phix
[05:56] <almoxarife> celltech: alrighty
[05:57] <phix> tripelb: it does though
[05:57] <almoxarife> !info pidgin
[05:58] <tripelb> OK well if it doesnt I cant ask in here. I sure hope it supports my wireless card, come to think of it. arg. OK thanks phlux
[05:58] <empathyHasIRC> Looks like it does
[05:58] <solringel> got a question
[05:58] <empathyHasIRC> tripelb: :)
[05:59] <almoxarife> solringel: ????
[05:59] <solringel> when the next major ubuntu release is out and i update does than mean i have to reinstall the packages i added?
[05:59] <phix> tripelb: :)
[06:00] <coolstar> Hi. i'm installing Ubuntu 11.10, and I'm experiencing some graphic related issues
[06:00] <almoxarife> solringel: good question, the issue will be all them packages you installed via ppa being supported by the upgraded version, that's why ppa's are your own risk taking sort of thing
[06:01] <almoxarife> solringel: so, don't upgrade for about ?????? 6 months? yeah, that should do it
[06:01] <solringel> didnt really understand that:-$
[06:01] <coolstar> Can anyone help me with my graphics issues on Ubuntu 11.10?
[06:02] <solringel> is a ppa a package?
[06:02] <almoxarife> solringel: nothing says that who ever offers up packages in a ppa will be supporting the next upgraded version of ubuntu, it's a crap shoot
[06:03] <coolstar> I have upgraded from Ubuntu 10.10 to 11.10 and I'm having serious graphic issues
[06:03] <almoxarife> solringel: no,  packages are part of a ppa
[06:03] <tripelb> thanks empathyhasirc
[06:03] <tripelb> I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each.	
[06:03] <tripelb>  
[06:03] <tripelb> I do not think that they will sing to me.
[06:04] <coolstar> almoxarife: Can you help me with some graphic issues I'm having in ubuntu 11.10?
[06:04] <solringel> oh then b4 i would upgrade to a major release i would remove those ppa's
[06:04] <almoxarife> coolstar: nvidia?
[06:04] <coolstar> no
[06:04] <coolstar> I have ATI Mobility Radeon X1300
[06:04] <coolstar> almoxarife: The graphics appear ok, except when moving windows, there's a serious lag.
[06:05] <almoxarife> coolstar: that also has a current drivers ppa from the manufacturer I believe
[06:05] <coolstar> almoxarife: The graphics look ok, except there's a lag when opening windows, closing windows, or moving windows
[06:05] <almoxarife> coolstar: but I don't know much about it, someone else may have ati
[06:05] <coolstar> It's just laggy
[06:06] <almoxarife> coolstar: and there could be metric butt tons of reasons for that, way out of my meager know-how
[06:06] <khc> I just upgraded to 11.10, both evolution and pidgin are saying I am not connected to the network, even though network manager shows the connected icon and I am connected to the internet
[06:06] <coolstar> almoxarife: also, dbus-daemon uses 60% of the CPU
[06:07] <almoxarife> coolstar: no idea, sorry
[06:07] <almoxarife> khc: can you web browse?
[06:08] <khc> almoxarife: yes
[06:08] <khc> I can do everything, except convince programs that I am really connected
[06:08] <huamm_> how to make my terminal like this - http://bowoganteng.tk/gambar
[06:08] <huamm_> coloring
[06:08] <khc> seems like something with network manager is broken
[06:08] <almoxarife> khc: pidgin is set up with a server and all that?
[06:08] <khc> almoxarife: yes, I can ping and all that
[06:08] <khc> (ex-pidgin developer, I know my pidgin)
[06:08] <coolstar> does anyone know issues where dbus-daemon uses 58% of m CPU?
[06:09] <almoxarife> khc: can't be network manager, if you can web browse
[06:09] <khc> of course it can be
[06:09] <khc> programs that integrate with network manager tend to ask it what the network status is
[06:09] <almoxarife> khc: alrighty then, I'll let you trouble shoot it
[06:09] <ksbalaji> Got help from debian channel for my OO problem, though not directly related to them or this channel. Thanks and bye.
[06:10] <sharpK> does anyone else find that Synergy makes the graphics on 10.10 all messed up?
[06:10] <sharpK> folder icons don't show up
[06:10] <sharpK> and all
[06:10] <coolstar> @sharpK: I haven't had any problems on ubuntu 10.10
[06:10] <hintss> hey, the computer from yesterday, that locks up on login, the memtest completed 6 passes so far with no errors
[06:10] <sharpK> hmm
[06:11] <sharpK> coolstar: do you use ubuntu as a client or host?
[06:11] <coolstar> I use ubuntu on my thinkpad t60
[06:11] <coolstar> sharpK: I'm not sure as I do host a LAMP server
[06:11] <coolstar> I'm a developer :)
[06:12] <sharpK> yeah, I meant with synergy, is it set as the host for synergy or as a client
[06:12] <coolstar> sharpK: I don't know what synergy is
[06:12] <sharpK> oh
[06:12] <sharpK> oh, you said you had no problem on 10.10 with it
[06:13] <sharpK> I thought you meant with synergy cause that's what I said :)
[06:14] <jadon> i need some networking help. laptop wifi running 10.10
[06:15] <coolstar> I am having serious performance issues after upgrading from 10.10 to 11.10
[06:15] <jadon> unity causeing problems?
[06:16] <jadon> it took me 2 hours to install a different window manager in unity
[06:16] <coolstar> i found the cause
[06:16] <coolstar> I unplugged my ipod touch and it was fixed
[06:16] <jadon> lol
[06:16] <jadon> what version?
[06:16] <coolstar> iOS 5
[06:16] <coolstar> Tethered Jailbreak
[06:16] <jadon> gen i ment
[06:16] <coolstar> 3rd Gen 32 GB
[06:17] <jadon> same here
[06:17] <jadon> just not jailbroken for stability issues
[06:17] <jadon> does cover flow cause your ipod to crash?
[06:17] <coolstar> jadon: no
[06:18] <jadon> coolstar really cause it crashes me and my friends ipods
[06:18] <areichman> hello. I'm having some problems with my DVD drive. lshw finds it but no discs I insert are recognized. Has anybody seen this before?
[06:18] <coolstar> jadon: try checking your album artwork, and try closing apps in the multitask tray
[06:19] <jadon> coolstar: what would album artwork have to do with it?
[06:19] <coolstar> jadon: album artwork is shown in coverflow`
[06:19] <jadon> areichman: ive been haveing a bitch of a time getting DVDs to play
[06:20] <areichman> jadon: that's actually not my problem. I've been playing DVD's for a couple of years
[06:20] <areichman> discs aren't being recognized at all now
[06:20] <areichman> whether they're DVD's, audio CD's... anything
[06:20] <areichman> even k3b shows 'no medium present'
[06:20] <jadon> areichman: oh well thats bad try a live disk? possibly a bad drive?
[06:21] <jadon> coolstar: am i whispering right?
[06:21] <areichman> jadon: maybe. But I get power to it and it's listed in lshw
[06:21] <areichman> so the drive can't be totally bad
[06:21] <jadon> well i had a hard drive that would show in bios but nowhere else (is this relavent?
[06:22] <areichman> I assumed a bad drive wouldn't show up at all. Is that not true?
[06:22] <jadon> i think so
[06:22] <jadon> the F/W of the drive will make it show up but possibly the read head is bad?
[06:23] <jadon> say im no exspert this is pure speculation
[06:23]  * jadon bows to Pici
[06:23] <areichman> interesting. Is there any way to check this?
[06:23] <jadon> say like i said boot a live disk and if it boots
[06:24] <jadon> say then something in your OS install broke
[06:24] <jadon> the reason im saying say as a prefix is due to being in a gameserver console to long
[06:25] <jadon> coolstar: how would the album artwork cause my ipod to crash
[06:25] <phix> hey what is the command again which tells dpkg to use my custom permissions and owership for a files / directories that are owned to a package?
[06:26] <phix> dpkg-statoverride?
[06:26] <jadon> are we talking via CLI?
[06:26] <jadon> as in a terminal?
[06:27] <phix> nm it was dpkg-statoverride ;)
[06:27] <jadon> so can anyone help with networking?
[06:28] <killown> How get two unity launcher for two displays?
[06:28] <jadon> i abhor unity
[06:29] <phix> killown: unity is extremely unconfigurable, use gnome fallback imo :)
[06:29] <phix> although the new gnome vers is also unconfigurable I find :\  need to fix that
[06:29] <poyntz> hi all
[06:29] <phix> hi poyntz!
[06:29] <poyntz> is there any reason why skype isn't in the default repository for oneiric?
[06:29] <poyntz> how are things phix ?
[06:30] <phix> poyntz: because skype is a non-free proprietary software
[06:30] <phix> poyntz: non-free in the ubuntu sense of the word :)
[06:30] <jadon> phix what are you running?
[06:30] <phix> jadon: gnome fallback
[06:30] <poyntz> phix: it's free unless you call people
[06:30] <poyntz> - on their phones
[06:30] <phix> poyntz: no the software doesn't meet Ubuntu's criteria for free :)
[06:30] <poyntz> ahh
[06:30] <llutz_> poyntz: it free of cost, but not free software
[06:31] <phix> poyntz: skype probably wants to charge people for bundeling it in their OS or some BS
[06:31] <poyntz> ohh
[06:31] <poyntz> you mean open source?
[06:31] <jadon> ya
[06:31] <phix> poyntz: just get the deb package from their site and install it manually using dpkg
[06:31] <poyntz> will do
[06:31] <jadon> well skype is now owned by M$
[06:31] <phix> poyntz: or better yet don't use skype, use gtalk or setup a asterisk server and use empathy which comes with ubuntu
[06:31] <poyntz> oneric looks great whoever helped develop it
[06:31] <phix> jadon: oh I didnt know that
[06:32] <poyntz> phix: is gtalk a gnome app?
[06:32] <phix> oneiric annoys me in some areas, one being unity
[06:32] <phix> poyntz: google talk
[06:32] <phix> it is a chat and voice protocol
[06:32] <poyntz> how's the video on that?
[06:32] <jadon> ya funny story right after M$ bought skype it almost broke completely
[06:32] <phix> poyntz: I have heard no complaints but I dont use the video feature
[06:32] <poyntz> is it jscript, java,?
[06:33] <poyntz> phix: ah
[06:33] <phix> jadon: haha, like anythig M$ has bought and developed ontop of ;)
[06:33] <Pauluntu> i switched back to windows so i could use skype :P
[06:33] <poyntz> ?
[06:33] <poyntz> it works on ubuntu
[06:33] <phix> poyntz: ummm C I think
[06:33] <phix> poyntz: it does
[06:33] <phix> poyntz: you can use empathy to do it
[06:33] <poyntz> phix: i mean the client side
[06:33] <phix> yeah C
[06:33] <poyntz> phix: like, what's stored on the client side?
[06:34] <jadon> phix: so tru although you have to give them credit for AoE II
[06:34] <phix> C libraries, executables and icons
[06:34] <poyntz> phix: so C can be dynamic?
[06:34] <phix> jadon: meh, I will do no such thing :P
[06:34] <phix> poyntz: what are you on about? :)
[06:34] <poyntz> and inserted in webpages now?
[06:34] <phix> C is a programming language
[06:35] <poyntz> i know
[06:35] <phix> there is an installer for it if that is what you mean
[06:35] <poyntz> but, what's the gtalk gui?
[06:35] <poyntz> jscript?
[06:35] <phix> empathy
[06:35] <phix> C and GTK
[06:35] <poyntz> ah
[06:36] <phix> it is a gnome based app
[06:36] <poyntz> oh :P
[06:36] <poyntz> i'm on kde
[06:36] <poyntz> not sure if the gnome libraries are installed by default
[06:36] <phix> there is probably kde version for it too
[06:36] <phix> poyntz: you using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[06:36] <poyntz> kubuntu
[06:36] <phix> ok, just google it :)
[06:36] <rainbowwarrior> hello
[06:37] <poyntz> but minus kde, same sort of thing ;)
[06:37] <phix> http://www.google.com/talk/otherclients.html
[06:37] <rainbowwarrior> can someone help me to get java working properly please ?
[06:37] <phix> hmmm looks like I was wrong
[06:37] <poyntz> imho the GUI is just sexier for kde than gnome
[06:38] <Pauluntu> google talk is nice but does it do video?
[06:38] <phix> poyntz: ok there is a web browser plugin that does the video part of it
[06:38] <phix> poyntz: http://www.google.com/talk/
[06:38] <coolstar> phix: it also does the audio and landline calls
[06:39] <phix> coolstar: correct
[06:39] <Pauluntu> yeah but that means you have to be on gmail to do video chat though i didn't like that
[06:39] <phix> poyntz: :) i hope that helped
[06:39] <poyntz> slower or faster than skype?
[06:39] <poyntz> and better or reduced video quality?
[06:39] <jadon> phix: aww come on you never played it?
[06:39] <phix> Pauluntu: you have to be on skype to use skype chat, I much like being a gmail member than a skype member :)
[06:40] <poyntz> i'm both :P
[06:40] <phix> jadon: nup
[06:40] <poyntz> but yaa
[06:40] <phix> poyntz: I Have set it up once for a client but I never tested the video part of it
[06:40] <jadon> phix: basicly M$ did it right
[06:40] <phix> poyntz: just TIAS (Try It And See)
[06:40] <phix> poyntz: you can be the judge :)
[06:41] <phix> but there is a skype ubuntu client, I have installed it before
[06:41] <poyntz> phix: haha. one day. thanks for the tip :)
[06:41] <rainbowwarrior> Hi i have a problem with java on Ubuntu 11.10 when i go onto chat the applet loads and then when logging in it just sits there doing nothing, any idea how to fix this please ?
[06:41] <Pauluntu> phix, true but i prefer a stand alone application instead of having to run through the web browser.  but doesn't matter when i used it a few days ago the video kept crashing on gmail so i didn't have a choice i switched back to windows until these desktop wars with gnome3 end
[06:42] <Pauluntu> rainbowwarrior, idk about your situation but when i was trying to play pogo it wouldn't work with openjdk6 i had to uninstall it and install the real oracle java for java stuff to work
[06:43] <rainbowwarrior> ok il try that thankyou Pauluntu
[06:44] <jdavis_> unity question: is there a way to cycle between tasks just on one workspace? Also, is there a way to more directly choose one window out of several windows of the same application, without having to look at the pictures of each window?
[06:44] <phix> rainbowwarrior: I am working on fixing some java problems as we speak
[06:45] <phix> rainbowwarrior: I found the easiest way is to install the sun/oracle verison, I have a repo if you want it, from PPA
[06:46] <phix> cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ferramroberto-java-oneiric.list
[06:46] <phix> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ferramroberto/java/ubuntu oneiric main
[06:46] <phix> just google it to find the command to install the keys and what not
[06:47] <jadon> when im bored i cat jpegs
[06:47] <jadon> then i cat /cat
[06:48] <phix> jadon: I used to cat them to /dev/dsp in the good old days
[06:48] <phix> catting them to /dev/console was also fun
[06:48] <jadon> what did that do?
[06:48] <pconwell> anyone familiar with kvm?
[06:49] <coolstar> pconwell: I prefer Virtualbox or VMware depending on the OS installed
[06:49] <jadon> phix: you should install sl
[06:49] <coolstar> Virtualbox for linux guest, and VMware for Windows
[06:49] <pconwell> yeah, really, I'm just trying to see if my processor supports virtualization
[06:49] <jadon> what CPU?
[06:50] <pconwell> er.. one sec
[06:50] <pconwell> Intel E7230
[06:50] <coolstar> how do you reorder items in the unity launcher?
[06:50] <pconwell> I googled it and googled it, but found nothing.. the 7220 does, so I assume it does too
[06:51] <jadon> ill check
[06:51] <pconwell> coolstar: long clikc
[06:51] <jadon> 1 sec
[06:51] <coolstar> pconwell: thx
[06:51] <kbhtech> What is the programming channel?
[06:51] <kbhtech> (C++)
[06:52] <jadon> pconwell: whats your cpu called (core2 etc)
[06:52] <pconwell> well, here is what is confusing me: I'm looking at the community documentation https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation
[06:52] <phix> pconwell: I am!
[06:52] <pconwell> jadon: I'm not 100% sure, it's an old server I bought off ebay
[06:53] <jadon> is it on?
[06:53] <pconwell> yes
[06:53] <phix> just google it
[06:53] <jadon> whats it running?
[06:53] <pconwell> ubuntu server 11.04
[06:53] <phix> pconwell: what are you tying to do with KVM?
[06:53] <phix> pconwell: cat /proc/cpuinfo will tell you
[06:53] <pconwell> phix: nothing particlarly with kvm, just trying to find out if the server supports virtualization...
[06:53] <phix> pconwell: you need motherboard support as well
[06:54] <jadon> pconwell: does it have GUI?
[06:54] <pconwell> phix: right
[06:54] <pconwell> jadon: no
[06:54] <jadon> ah
[06:54] <pconwell> Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz
[06:54] <pconwell> two cores
[06:54] <phix> pconwell: look for vmx flag I think it is
[06:54] <phix> or vme
[06:55] <pconwell> yup - vme
[06:55] <pconwell> and vmx
[06:55] <phix> oh pentium D, I dont think that had virt support, it was the core 2 duos that started with it
[06:55] <phix> ok ignore me :)
[06:55] <phix> if oyu have the flag then it is supported
[06:55] <phix> Xen / KVM, Virtualbox and vmware supports it
[06:55] <jadon> pconwell: less /proc/cpuinfo
[06:56] <pconwell> Okay, that's what I thought, but I'm a little confused because the community doc says look for "Your CPU supports KVM" for support
[06:56] <phix> jadon: too late ;P
[06:56] <jadon> whats that give
[06:56] <jadon> yes i want to see the full output
[06:56] <phix> jadon: that gives info about your cpu
[06:56] <phix> jadon: that is what cat does
[06:56] <phix> less just pages it for you
[06:56] <pconwell> jadon: okay, what do you want me to do with it?
[06:56] <jadon> lol i didnt read that part i was googleing
[06:56] <jadon> paste it in
[06:56] <phix> hehe
[06:56] <jadon> or pm it to me
[06:57] <phix> paste what in?
[06:57] <pconwell> one sec
[06:57] <phix> cat /proc/cpuinfo | wc -l
[06:57] <phix> 200
[06:57] <phix> 200 lines of stuff on my 8 cores :)
[06:57] <coolstar> So I coded an app, and i'm having weird issues regarding unity.
[06:58] <phix> coolstar: continue
[06:58] <phix> is it opengl app?
[06:58] <coolstar> no
[06:58] <coolstar> its a web browser
[06:58] <pconwell> http://pastebin.com/bSwRaEE6
[06:58] <Roasted> so, new trick my computer is doing. If I open rhythmbox, my sansa player automatically unmounts. If I open banshee, its fine. LOL!?!?!?!?!?!
[06:58] <phix> coolstar: you created a web browser? or it is a web based app?
[06:58] <coolstar> phix: I put all the menu items into 1 icon at the right of the toolbar (like chrome)
[06:58] <pconwell> jadon: the "sudo kvm-ok" part at the bottom is what is confusing me
[06:58] <poyntz> thanks all
[06:58] <coolstar> phix: its a browser
[06:59] <zjhui> hello everyone ,i have meet the problem when i install the nginx from the source , my host is ubuntu-server 11.10 and the nginx version is naginx 0.8.46 ,and the gcc version is gcc 4.6.1
[06:59] <phix> coolstar: nice
[06:59] <zjhui> the eror message is :src/core/ngx_resolver.c: In function ‘ngx_resolver_process_ptr’:src/core/ngx_resolver.c: In function ‘ngx_resolver_process_ptr’:
[06:59] <zjhui> src/core/ngx_resolver.c:1425:43: error: variable ‘qclass’ set but not used [-Werror=unused-but-set-variable]
[06:59] <zjhui> src/core/ngx_resolver.c:1425:36: error: variable ‘qtype’ set but not used [-Werror=unused-but-set-variable]
[06:59] <zjhui> cc1: all warnings being treated as errors
[06:59] <zjhui> make[1]: *** [objs/src/core/ngx_resolver.o] Error 1
[06:59] <zjhui> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jiahui/nginx/nginx-0.8.55'
[06:59] <zjhui> make: *** [build] Error 2
[06:59] <phix> coolstar: I do side projects like that too, I created a wheel the otherday
[06:59] <FloodBot1> zjhui: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:59] <phix> zjhui: bad!
[07:00] <zjhui> phix: sorry..
[07:00] <happygolucky> zjhui: can you repeat all that i clicked away and missed it
[07:00] <jadon> bahhahhaaa
[07:00] <phix> zjhui: you very big nginx problem?
[07:01] <phix> lol
[07:01] <phix> what is nginx?
[07:02] <zjhui> happygolucky: ok , http://paste.ubuntu.com/751143/  here is the error message
[07:03] <zjhui> happygolucky: and my host is ubuntu-server 11.10 and the nginx version is naginx 0.8.46 ,and the gcc version is gcc 4.6.1
[07:03] <happygolucky> zjhui: I was kidding
[07:03] <tensorpudding> zjhui, looks like a problem with the nginx source version, not with ubuntu
[07:03] <saucy_donkey> #aintitcool.com
[07:03] <saucy_donkey> oops
[07:03] <phix> zjhui: ok so you have to treat all warnings as errors?
[07:03] <phix> it doesnt look like a big issue
[07:04] <phix> zjhui: are you using a make file to compile it?
[07:04] <tensorpudding> zjhui, the Makefile has the option -Werror in the CFLAGS, which makes make fail on warnings, and the compiler emitted a warning
[07:04] <tensorpudding> zjhui, this is an issue with the version of nginx you used, or a bug in the compiler, and i lean towards the former
[07:05] <happygolucky> the -werror i had that before
[07:05] <tensorpudding> zjhui, you should consider using the version of nginx that is packaged for ubuntu
[07:05] <happygolucky> you have warnings as errors set
[07:05] <Roasted> so, new trick my computer is doing. If I open rhythmbox, my sansa player automatically unmounts. If I open banshee, its fine. LOL!?!?!?!?!?!
[07:05] <happygolucky> you can rebuild gcc with somethiong like --disable-werror
[07:05] <tensorpudding> you can edit the Makefile to remove -Werror but you should report a bug on the nginx bugtracker
[07:06] <tensorpudding> don't actually build gcc with -Werror disabled, that is a terrible idea
[07:06] <zjhui> tensorpudding: yes , i also thought that , but i have google for a long time , and can't figure out the problem
[07:06] <happygolucky> or edit the -werror out of the source.. it's under i think pflags or something in some file
[07:06] <phix> tensorpudding: that is a great idea, warnings are fine
[07:07] <happygolucky> oh right cflags
[07:07] <tensorpudding> phix, if the writers of the software put -Werror in their Makefile, it was because they want to maintain a reasonably clean and compliant codebase, and disabling -Werror on your GCC is not only a huge time sink, but subverts their intention
[07:07] <zjhui> tensorpudding: the Makefile don't have the werror option
[07:08] <tensorpudding> zjhui, are you sure
[07:09] <happygolucky> check the common.mak file for the cflag or -werror and then just take it out
[07:09] <zjhui> tensorpudding: yes http://paste.ubuntu.com/751148/
[07:09] <happygolucky> *of not or
[07:10] <tensorpudding> why are you building 0.8.55 anyway
[07:10] <zjhui> tensorpudding: that is my Makefile
[07:10] <tensorpudding> it calls multiple other Makefiles
[07:10] <tensorpudding> in the objs folder
[07:10] <happygolucky> zjhui: common.mak
[07:10] <tensorpudding> err, other Makefiles
[07:11] <Roasted> wow, why is rhythmbox so fail. it keep segfaulting every time I click anything on it.
[07:11] <tensorpudding> but seriously, why are you building 0.8.55
[07:12] <zjhui> tensorpudding: because i follow the tutorials which use that version
[07:12] <almoxarife> Roasted: look at vlc, does the same job without the segfaults
[07:12] <Roasted> LOL
[07:12] <Roasted> VLC?
[07:12] <tensorpudding> the 0.8 series is a few years old
[07:12] <Roasted> VLC is not *anything* like rhythmbox
[07:13] <almoxarife> !info vlc
[07:13] <tensorpudding> the mainline is 1.0
[07:13] <tensorpudding> moreover, nginx is packaged in ubuntu
[07:13] <Roasted> thanks, but no thanks. it's nothing like rhythmbox whatsoever.
[07:13] <c0nc0lic> hi, is this the right place to ask for help?
[07:13] <kbhtech> Okay... I am trying to make something however I need to know the steps to connect to a wifi network in a program, does anyone have a clue?
[07:13] <happygolucky> i've always prefered mplayer over vlc
[07:13] <zjhui> tensorpudding: yes , i just want to complie it from the source
[07:14] <zjhui> tensorpudding: let me try the new version
[07:14] <tensorpudding> you should only do that if you actually understand what problems that can cause
[07:14] <tensorpudding> and you should report the bug you found on the nginx bugtracker
[07:15] <happygolucky> kbhtech: is this a programming question or general computing
[07:15] <kbhtech> Starting off with general computing.
[07:16] <zjhui> tensorpudding: i have found this http://www.serverphorums.com/read.php?5,308712 , but when i use that patch , it didn't work
[07:16] <kbhtech> It will get more in depth once I actually understand this tech.
[07:17] <kbhtech> Its about what does a connection manager have to do to connect to a network.
[07:17] <happygolucky> kbhtech: well off the top of my head from the command line you need wireless-tools installed and iwconfig ought to do the trick in setting all the proper associations, ifconfig will put the device up and dhclient should issue an ip, you will have to figure out what interface your device is called by linux, mines wlan0
[07:17] <kbhtech> mine to, I'm using backtrack...
[07:18] <happygolucky> kbhtech: great tool
[07:18] <c3ll> hi all
[07:18] <zjhui> tensorpudding: and i also didn't know the what's the acutually reason that cause the problem
[07:18] <happygolucky> kbhtech: i believe backtrack has wicd
[07:18] <abraoximenes> i am using backtrack
[07:19] <kbhtech> happygolucky define wicd please...
[07:19] <c3ll> backtrack does use wicd
[07:19] <happygolucky> pronounced wicked, it's a wireless program for connecting to wifi hot spots
[07:20] <kbhtech> Okay. I have verified that it does exist happygolucky.
[07:20] <v3ritas> Anyone know how to fix Flash Error #2046 on Ubuntu? Cleared my cache, removed & reinstalled both the flashplugin-nonfree & adobe-flashplugin, used Chrome, Chromium & Firefox
[07:20] <abraoximenes> http://abraoximenes.com
[07:20] <tensorpudding> zjhui, the actual reason is is right there in the error, a variable was defined but not used
[07:21] <tensorpudding> zjhui, the c compiler emitted a warning because of that, and because -Werror was in place, the compilation ended in error
[07:21] <kbhtech> I need to find out... what do these wireless tools do. my current project is crazy but I am trying to get involved with packet injection.
[07:22] <mamece2> ok guys ive been googling this for the entire day, i just made a bootable pendrive and when i try to boot it appears the message "boot error"
[07:23] <c3ll> kbhtech, are you trying to use the air crack suite with backtrack?
[07:24] <kbhtech> Yeah, I have done it in the entire backtrack kit. now I am trying to design something universal but don't know where to even start.
[07:24] <happygolucky> v3ritas if i were you i'd ls -alh /usr/lib/mpzilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so or whatever it is called and trace it to the actual file.. you can go to adobe and download the source and get the absolute newest libflashplayer.so from there and just drop it in at the end of the symlinks, it might be symlinked twice
[07:24] <abraoximenes> I could use Backtrack tools in Ubuntu
[07:24] <happygolucky> *mozilla
[07:24] <mamece2> ok guys ive been googling this for the entire day, i just made a bootable pendrive and when i try to boot it appears the message "boot error"
[07:24] <kbhtech> The 1st step is listening to the available hosts around me I think...
[07:25] <v3ritas> @happygolucky, okay thanks, i'll give that a try
[07:25] <happygolucky> abraoximenes: of course, aircrack-ng is a package
[07:25] <kbhtech> Is it the packets that define an SSID, BSSID and all that information on a channel?
[07:26] <mamece2> plz go to BT5 chat room
[07:26] <llutz_> !backtrack | kbhtech
[07:27] <c3ll> @mamece2 what is the btw chatroom? #BT5 ?
[07:27] <kbhtech> Alright thanks llutz
[07:27] <mamece2> llutz hello can you help me?
[07:27] <abraoximenes> I am a Backtrack user, but how can I join Backtrack IRC...??
[07:27] <mamece2> i just made a bootable pendrive and when i try to boot it appears the message "boot error"
[07:27] <llutz_> !backtrack > abraoximenes
[07:27] <happygolucky> mamece2 are you using the universal USB installer or unetbootin?
[07:28] <llutz_> mamece2: how did you make it, what iso did you use?
[07:28] <kbhtech> That channel says I am band... I never joined... '#backtrack-linux'
[07:28] <mamece2> happygolucky: llutz: i used unetbootin and ubuntu startup disk creator
[07:28] <llutz_> kbhtech: still you're offtopic here. ask in #freenode for help
[07:28] <hiweedmandriva>  /list
[07:29] <kbhtech> #freenode
[07:29] <kbhtech> damn
[07:29] <mamece2> llutz i dl'ed the one in the page. the names ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386
[07:29] <kbhtech> !freenode
[07:30] <mamece2> llutz ill try it in a P4 1,6 Ghz 1gb ram, 40 GB HD
[07:30] <happygolucky> mamece2: give the universal usb installer a whirl, pendrivelinux.com
[07:30] <llutz_> kbhtech: /join #freenode              too hard?
[07:30] <zjhui> tensorpudding: so , i should find the -Werror option in the Makefile and delete it
[07:30] <kbhtech> I'm not use to IRC
[07:30] <llutz_> !irc
[07:31] <tensorpudding> zjhui, that's the more immediate solution
[07:31] <hiweedmandriva> !irc
[07:31] <mamece2> happygolucky: i'll try.. but what seems to be the problem ? i am trying the startup disk creator, its the official ubuntu tool
[07:31] <tensorpudding> zjhui, the longer-term solution is to notify the nginx people about this issue so that they'll patch their code
[07:31] <happygolucky> mamece2: might be the iso, was it verified
[07:31] <happygolucky> md5sum etc.
[07:31] <zjhui> tensorpudding: i have find a patch , and it didn't work
[07:32] <zjhui> tensorpudding: i will report the bug to nginx
[07:32] <happygolucky> zjhui: did you find a common.mak file in the source
[07:33] <mamece2> happygolucky:  i dont remember how to use md5sum and the manual confuses me
[07:33] <abraoximenes> I have just joined  BT room but when i send message the was an error can't send to the channel
[07:33] <llutz_> abraoximenes: ask in #freenode for help
[07:33] <zjhui> happygolucky: http://www.serverphorums.com/read.php?5,308712
[07:33] <happygolucky> abraoximenes: your nickname proabably isn't registered
[07:33] <mamece2> ^
[07:34] <coolstar> Is ccsm compatible with 11.10?
[07:35] <mamece2> happygolucky: universal usb installer is for windows..
[07:35] <happygolucky> zjhui: all right, yeah, anyway. inside the source tree when you ls is there common.mak
[07:35] <happygolucky> mamece2: it's got source
[07:35] <Ycarene> wineserver -k
[07:35] <Ycarene> wineserver -k
[07:35] <zjhui> happygolucky: sorry , what is the common.mak?
[07:36] <coolstar> Is compizconfig settings manager compatible with 11.10?
[07:36] <sagaci> coolstar: it's in the repo
[07:36] <happygolucky> zjhui: -werror should be a cflag inside that file, delete the -werror from that file
[07:36] <scottj> what's a good way to securely delete a hard drive before selling a computer, that can be done in a few hours? (some secure delete programs seem to take forever)
[07:37] <llutz_> scottj: fill hdd with zero, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/whatever bs=4k
[07:37] <happygolucky> scottj: the only sure fire way i know is truecrypt, will write to the drive up to 35 times i think
[07:37] <sagaci> coolstar: keep it in the channel
[07:37] <llutz_> scottj: depending on disksize, it'll take some time too
[07:37] <rhett> does anyone know how to set  up local host resolution so 2 ubuntu computers find each other by hostname on a subnet?
[07:37] <coolstar> Is ccsm safe with 11.10?
[07:38] <coolstar> I saw negative reviews
[07:38] <scottj> happygolucky: why is writing zeros not sure fire?
[07:38] <happygolucky> i said only sure fire way i know
[07:38] <abraoximenes> happygolucky & Ilutz: I see. How to register it...?? thanks
[07:38] <happygolucky> not an expert
[07:38] <llutz_> !register | abraoximenes: ask in #freenode for help
[07:39] <zjhui> tensorpudding: : thank you , i have solved it by change the nginx to version 1.0.10
[07:39] <scottj> happygolucky: ok, iirc with writing zeros the problem is sometimes nothing is written and then the data is still there
[07:40] <llutz_> scottj: use /dev/urandom then
[07:40] <happygolucky> i've used testdisk to restore a formated drive which was like wow to me
[07:40] <scottj> llutz_: iirc /dev/urandom takes forever bc your machine has to generate enough randomness or something
[07:41] <llutz_> scottj: true, but what do you want? secure, fast, you can only have one
[07:41] <scottj> llutz_: yeah, I'll probably go with the zeros
[07:43] <happygolucky> i once sold a drive with my social security and passwords on it in plain text files, people usually want the space, they dont usually want to go through your files
[07:44] <alsoeric> any ideas on how I can improve kbd and display responsiveness when the disk is running
[07:48] <Odaym> anyone used Ohloh before
[07:49] <coolstar> Any idea on how to make an app Unity compatible?
[07:49] <coolstar> I made one using python and gtk
[07:49] <ssdsd> unity sucks , use unigine
[07:49] <happygolucky> abraoximenes: i dont remember dude, ask in #freenode
[07:49] <moza> Odaym, what is your question about Ohloh?
[07:50] <Odaym> I cannot see the graphs, lines of statistics, etc.. in the Code Analysis tab of my project: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19390574/Cura%20-%20Ohloh.png
[07:50] <coolstar> Ssdsd: unity comes with Ubuntu, so as a developer, I'm targeting that
[07:50] <abraoximenes> happygolucky: It doesn't matter
[07:51] <Odaym> I ought to be able to see something like this, http://ohloh.blackducksoftware.com/SpringFrameworkEvents.png , and it used to appear before
[07:51] <happygolucky> abraoximenes: that's the spirit :3
[07:51] <coolstar> Ssdsd: btw I'm not talking about unity games, but the unity desktop
[07:51] <moza> Odaym, what does it have to do with ubuntu?
[07:52] <Odaym> nothing, but you volunteered to answer my question about Ohloh
[07:52] <coolstar> Does anyone know where I can find the docs for unity Apis
[07:52] <abraoximenes> happygolucky: I will try to fix it
[07:52] <jiltdil> installer crashed while installing ubuntu ultimate. After this when i tried to boot my system it is not showing bios screen also no light in keyboard.  how to fix this?
[07:52] <coolstar> Unity as in the Ubuntu panels
[07:53] <happygolucky> abraoximenes: give /msg nickserv help register a whirel
[07:53] <happygolucky> *whirl
[07:53] <rainbowwarrior_> Hi, i have a problem with java, when i try and load a java chat applet it just freezes as shown in this screen shot :- http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w39/andrewwilkie/Workspace1_001.png ( can someone please help me how to fix this ? ) Thank You
[07:55] <jiltdil> Any idea?
[07:55] <moza> Odaym, sorry, i thought i could help but i can't.
[07:55] <Odaym> it's alright
[07:55] <happygolucky> rainbowwarrior_: do you have icedtea6-plugin
[07:55] <phix> hmmmm how can I get rid of password to gnome keyring?
[07:56] <phix> I want an autologin session
[07:56] <rainbowwarrior_> yes happygolucky
[07:56] <phix> with a password for remote admin but I dont care if it is stored in plaintext
[07:56] <bkerensa> rainbowwarrior: Can you open terminal and enter -> sudo apt-get install --reinstall icedtea-plugin openjdk-7-jre
[07:56] <happygolucky> rainbowwarrior_: which browser do you use
[07:56] <bkerensa> happygolucky: FF
[07:56] <bkerensa> ^
[07:57] <rainbowwarrior_> firefox
[07:58] <happygolucky> rainbowwarrior_: are both the plugin and browser 32 bit or 64
[07:58] <rainbowwarrior_> 64
[07:59] <hosein_> hi All
[07:59] <newerthhero> hi how do i maintain a screen resolution?
[07:59] <happygolucky> rainbowwarrior_: a 64 bit firefox, hm, are you using a nightly build
[07:59] <newerthhero> it reverts back to 1024x768
[07:59] <diki> hi all
[07:59] <diki> I have ubuntu 11.10
[07:59] <hosein_> when I want open My Synaptic Package manager I get this Error and synaptic closed ...
[07:59] <hosein_> E: Type ‘.launchpad.net/shutter/ppa/ubuntu’ is not known on line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/shutter-ppa-natty.list
[07:59] <hosein_> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[07:59] <hosein_> Go to the repository dialogue to correct the problem.
[07:59] <hosein_> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[08:00] <diki> And i need to know how to increase the swap file
[08:00] <rainbowwarrior_> oh sorry happygolucky my bad i meant 32
[08:00] <happygolucky> diki: i think anyone will suggest gparted
[08:00] <rainbowwarrior_> yes i can bkerensa
[08:00] <diki> happygolucky:ok, gparted, and then? what do i do?
[08:01] <happygolucky> rainbowwarrior_: but you're positive the plugin is 32 also
[08:01] <mamece2> llutz i just did two bootable usb sticks with universal usb creator .. BOOT ERROR
[08:01] <durian> diki: boot from live media and adjust the partitions from there
[08:02] <rainbowwarrior_> how do i check please happygolucky ?
[08:02] <mamece2> durian i just did two bootable usb sticks with universal usb creator .. BOOT ERROR. can u help me?
[08:02] <diki> durian:not partitions, swap file space
[08:02] <llutz_> mamece2: i cannot help you, i don't use such stuff.
[08:02] <diki> but i remember there were command associated with it i think
[08:02] <mamece2> happygolucky: i did the universal usb creator thing in windows, still have boot error
[08:02] <phlak_user> diki, use mkswap to create a new partition and swapon to enable it
[08:03] <happygolucky> rainbowwarrior_: you could i guess apt-get -d install --reinstall icedtea6-plugin then go to the archives and check the file name
[08:03] <durian> diki: Oh, sorry. mamece2: What OS are you using?
[08:03] <mamece2> durian i want to install puppy or ubuntu 10.11 386 in an old pc
[08:04] <nimbiotics> devede (3.19)  is not working since I installed 11.10. Any ideas why? TIA!
[08:04] <mamece2> durian but i cant boot from live usb
[08:04] <rainbowwarrior_> ok i will try that and check thank you happygolucky
[08:05] <tonyyarusso> mamece2: Do you mean 11.10?
[08:05] <phlak_user> nimbiotics, any details?
[08:05] <mamece2> tonyyarusso: yes
[08:05] <durian> mamece2: It night not be able to boot from USB depending on how old it is.
[08:05] <happygolucky> mamece2: old pc usually arent setup for USB booting, does BIOS have a USB in the boot order
[08:05] <phlak_user> nimbiotics, for starters, try launching it from a terminal, you might see some error messages
[08:06] <durian> mamece2: Try booting from optical media maybe?
[08:07] <happygolucky> mamece2: why aren't you using wubi
[08:07] <mamece2> durian happygolucky i am using the old HD (40 gb) in a new pc, still boot error., i just want to install the OS in the old HD
[08:07] <rainbowwarrior_> happygolucky :- how do i find the archives please ?
[08:08] <besogon> Hi! I need help. My card reader don't works (eeepc built in card reader) It had worked before I disabled the device with eee-control! NOW here is no eee-control package at ALL!!! HELP! I don't know what to do
[08:08] <mamece2> happygolucky: the old HD has windows intalled but cannot boot, its damaged or corrupt,. i just want to wipe it and install linux
[08:08] <mintakas> hiii
[08:08] <mamece2> i cant find a solution for the boot error in a google search
[08:08] <mintakas> instal chrome
[08:08] <sintrope> guys have a simple qustion, is it posible to get the "Sushi" app for ubuntu 10.10?
[08:08] <nimbiotics> phlak_user: actually, it does start and seems to work fine. It starts creating, but at some point it just does not advanced. I've let it stay there for 5+ hours to no avail
[08:08] <happygolucky>  mamece2 /var/cache/apt/archives/
[08:09] <mintakas> i have pinguy and it s better then ubuntu
[08:09] <phlak_user> nimbiotics, then that could be attributed to your media
[08:09] <happygolucky> oops
[08:09] <sintrope> guys have a simple qustion, is it posible to get the "Sushi" app for ubuntu 10.10?
[08:09] <happygolucky>  rainbowwarrior /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:10] <mamece2> happygolucky:  what do you mean?
[08:10] <nimbiotics> phlak_user: Also tried 8 different files (mkv, mp4, avi); same result
[08:10] <snigel> is there any way to make xml-queries from the terminal, or is there a graphic program that can do this? Just need something simple for school.
[08:10] <rainbowwarrior_> ty  happygolucky  it says 64amd
[08:10] <happygolucky> mamece2: sorry i meant that for someone else
[08:10] <phlak_user> nimbiotics, when you launch from terminal, it might throw up some messages
[08:11] <mamece2> theres no solution for the boot error message?
[08:11] <happygolucky> rainbowwarrior_: that's not gonna fly inside a 32bit ff
[08:11] <happygolucky> as you know
[08:12] <rainbowwarrior_> hmm according to the archivies it says 64amd for firefox aswell
[08:13] <nimbiotics> phlak_user: no error msgs that I can recognize (http://paste.ubuntu.com/751180/)
[08:13] <sintrope> quit
[08:13] <sintrope> quit
[08:13] <besogon> gnome3 vs unity... I installed gnome-shell then I installed cocky-panel then I rebooted the computer then I got a list in lightdm (gnome without 3D, gnome without conky, gnome with conky but without gnome panel... ) :/ WTF??? Conky seems to break my system
[08:13] <phlak_user> nimbiotics, did it exit normally after creating the dvd?
[08:14] <nimbiotics> phlak_user: og no, lemme try again
[08:16] <happygolucky> rainbowwarrior_: if ff is 64 then it should run 64 and 32 plugins
[08:18] <rainbowwarrior_> hmm
[08:19] <mamece2> i did two bootable usb sticks with universal usb creator .. and i get this message BOOT ERROR. help anyone?
[08:19] <nimbiotics> phlak_user: I think the 2 last lines mean troublem but this time it IS actually progressin!!   :]
[08:20] <happygolucky> mamece2: is it a usb 2.0 port
[08:20] <mamece2> happygolucky: yes
[08:21] <mamece2> happygolucky: the usb ports are integrated to the mobo
[08:21] <happygolucky> mamece2: are you able to pass any boot options
[08:22] <mamece2> happygolucky: i set the boot priority to enable usb ports first boot option
[08:22] <rainbowwarrior_> well it half works but still freezes when trying to log in, il try with google chrome and see if that freezes aswell
[08:23] <zare__> problem opening Synaptic.....
[08:23] <zare__> When I Open Synaptic I see this error
[08:23] <zare__> E: Type ‘.launchpad.net/shutter/ppa/ubuntu’ is not known on line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/shutter-ppa-natty.list
[08:23] <zare__> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[08:23] <zare__> Go to the repository dialogue to correct the problem.
[08:23] <zare__> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[08:24] <tonyyarusso> zare__: So, you need to fix /etc/apt/sources.list.d/shutter-ppa-natty.list to have the proper format.
[08:24] <llutz_> zare__: sed -n '2p'  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/shutter-ppa-natty.list
[08:24] <mamece2> what a failure..
[08:24] <zare__> Ok I try it
[08:25] <happygolucky> mamece2: is there anything other than boot error on the screen and does it at all load casper or give you a screen prior in which it asks you what to do?
[08:27] <zare__> Ok Friends I delete hutter-ppa-natty. now new Errro
[08:27] <zare__> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_talkplugin_deb_dists_stable_main_binary-i386_Packages
[08:28] <zare__> what should I do
[08:28] <diki> well it appears i borked my ubuntu 11.10
[08:28] <diki> cant boot now
[08:30] <happygolucky> diki: you were only suppsoed to resize your partitions
[08:30] <diki> used this although it was for 11.04 http://undertowsam.wordpress.com/2010/07/01/how-to-increase-swap-memory-in-ubuntu-10-04/
[08:31] <happygolucky> diki: i
[08:31] <mimy> hi
[08:31] <diki> oops i mean 10.04
[08:32] <mamece2> happygolucky: just boot error and the blinkin cursor at the next line
[08:32] <happygolucky> diki: i'm not an expert but i would have strongly advised against ever using dd
[08:32] <zare__> Thanks all for helping , corrected ... bye
[08:32] <justified-x0d> hello everyone
[08:32] <diki> Anyway to fix it now?
[08:32] <sharpK> why do I all of a sudden lose permission in the GUI
[08:32] <sharpK> I lost sudo
[08:32] <sharpK> can't save files in /etc
[08:33] <sharpK> how does one give themselves permission to edit any/all files?
[08:34] <llutz_> sharpK: does "id" list you as member of group admin?
[08:34] <happygolucky> diki: i
[08:34] <happygolucky> diki: i'm not sure if it will work but live ubuntu and testdisk?
[08:35] <happygolucky> sharpK: visudo
[08:36] <diki> I have a live cd, but...from there on i've no idea what to do
[08:36] <happygolucky> sharpK: basically copy what's there for root with the user you wish to give root access
[08:37] <happygolucky> to
[08:37] <happygolucky> sharpK: like put beneath it the login name of the user under root and all, all, all
[08:37] <llutz_> happygolucky: the preferred *buntu-way is just to add the user to "admin" group.
[08:38] <auronandace> happygolucky: i hope you know that is a massive security risk (he may aswell logon as root)
[08:38] <Nowayz> hi
[08:38] <llutz_> Hyperbyte: but both will fail if he really has " 09:32 < sharpK> I lost sudo"
[08:38] <happygolucky> risk or no risk it does precisely what he wants, it's adding the user to the sudoers file
[08:39] <llutz_> happygolucky: its not
[08:39] <mamece2> i giveup, i have more than 24 hours looking for this
[08:39] <Nowayz> if I install Ubuntu 10.04 with grub onto a usb hdd can i move it from pc to pc without grub having errors with the boot
[08:40] <rainbowwarrior> nope java still freezes on google chrome same thing as with firefox
[08:41] <happygolucky> i'm confused
[08:45] <happygolucky> anyway sharpK you could if you needed to access all of a disk login as root or superuser by doing su and then typing in the root password and ctrl+D to logout
[08:45] <mamece2> excuse me but this is bullshit
[08:45] <auronandace> !root | happygolucky
[08:46] <eHAPPY> any reason why a NFS mount command would take a really long time?
[08:46] <bkerensa> !rules | mamece2
[08:46] <happygolucky> passwd sets a root password and not everyone chooses not to allow root login
[08:46] <Maccer> So I'm going to have to compile my own network drivers sadly.  If I choose to use ubuntu, how may I add the sk98lin module to load in it?
[08:47] <auronandace> happygolucky: if sudo is not working then somebody has been messing with something they don't understand (and you want to give that somebody root access?)
[08:47] <bkerensa> Maccer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11382042#post11382042
[08:48] <llutz_> besides that, activating root-account isn't supported here and shouldn't be recommended at all
[08:48] <happygolucky> wanting things is childish, if someone needs access i'll let them know how to get there
[08:48] <happygolucky> anything else is superfluous
[08:48] <ssta> llutz_: since when?
[08:48] <llutz_> ssta: since ever
[08:49] <ssta> then that's silly
[08:49] <Maccer> bkerensa: That doesn't work sadly, and it's even more of a pain in the ass because I don't have internet without these modules.
[08:49] <llutz_> ssta: blaim the people making the rules
[08:49] <ssta> llutz_: where is this rule stated?
[08:50] <llutz_> ssta: ask in #ubuntu-ops
[08:50] <skilz> I have another partition on my drive containing debian, is it possible to delete that partition and use it to store movies and music ect on? If so how?
[08:50] <skilz> like create an ext3 partition and have it auto mount
[08:50] <happygolucky> Maccer: did you try to modprobe it
[08:51] <llutz_> skilz: make sure its not mounted, "sudo mkfs.ext4 -m0 /dev/sdXY" "sudo mount /dev/sdXY/mnt" "sudo chown $USER:USER /mnt && umount /mnt"
[08:52] <llutz_> skilz: then create a new mountpoint like "/data" and add an /etc/fstab entry for it
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> whats a good xvidcap equivalent
[08:53] <ssta> the helppage linked from !root even tells you how to enable the root account.  This is a silly rule (if it is a rule)
[08:53] <happygolucky> also if sudo isnt working perhaps the it's not been installed i.e. only base system
[08:54] <llutz_> Hyperbyte:  " 09:32 < sharpK> I lost sudo"  <- so he had sudo before
[08:54] <llutz_> happygolucky: ^^
[08:54] <happygolucky> could have meant he had it in prior install
[08:55] <happygolucky> or she
[08:56] <happygolucky> for that matter
[08:56] <llutz_> who cares
[08:58] <brontosaurusrex> lotuspsychje, search repos for "screen recorder" ?
[08:58] <skilz> llee, Whats /dev/sdXY ?
[08:58] <skilz> How do I figure out if its /dev/sda1?
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> brontosaurusrex: i've tested a few screen recorders, but not many handle mpeg so smooth as xvidcap
[08:58] <llutz_> skilz: sudo fdisk -l
[08:59] <brontosaurusrex> lotuspsychje, what are you capturing exactly, a video stream of some sort?
[08:59] <lotuspsychje> brontosaurusrex: yes webcam stream
[09:00] <pnorman> I have two files, foo and bar. I want to rename foo to bar and bar to foo. Can anyone think of a better way then mv foo baz; mv bar foo; mv baz bar?
[09:01] <brontosaurusrex> lotuspsychje, how about glc?
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> brontosaurusrex: lemme test that package brb
[09:02] <skilz> Ubuntu is /dev/sda6 so I think debian is /dev/sda1: /dev/sda1   *        2048    33958021    16977987   83  Linux
[09:02] <brontosaurusrex> lotuspsychje, however i dont remeber how i installed that
[09:02] <llutz_> skilz: you should be sure, not just think
[09:03] <skilz> llutz, How can I be sure?
[09:03] <brontosaurusrex> lotuspsychje, but the cli was : glc-capture --fps=25 -s -n --disable-audio neverball
[09:03] <brontosaurusrex> for example
[09:03] <llutz_> skilz: mount it, check it
[09:03] <lotuspsychje> brontosaurusrex: was it able to record specific area?
[09:04] <happygolucky> skilz: whenever i'm unsure of what is what I like to mount them and then df -h.. usually i can tell by size what's what.. also blkid should give you a UUID for your fstab if for some reason your devices change on you
[09:04] <brontosaurusrex> lotuspsychje, maybe read http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/glc.html
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> brontosaurusrex: tnx ill have alook
[09:11] <besogon> uh
[09:11] <skilz> any gui program for partitioning?
[09:12] <ssta> gparted
[09:12] <besogon> I've found the way to turn on my card reader :-( Now I need a script to do it automatically
[09:12] <happygolucky> skilz: do yourself a favor burn a copy of gparted live
[09:12] <Ampelbein> besogon: Have a look at udev.
[09:12] <tripelb> hi booted macbook on 11.04 liveCD +. connected wireless + started Empathy, set up IRC +. asked to connect to #ubuntu --> OOPS, goes to login screen with only choice = OTHER..  I cant log in.  (this happened twice. The first time I didnt get that far.) HELP please.
[09:13] <A_J> hey all on my netbook my mouse pointer via the trackpad randomly stops working after bootup
[09:13] <tripelb> A_J it might be just doing something that takes a while
[09:13] <tripelb> and it looks like it froze
[09:14] <A_J> i just booted up tripelb
[09:14] <besogon> Ampelbein: I know. That's the reason why I'm sad. It's gonna be painful adventure 8-)
[09:14] <A_J> just happing from today morning tripelb
[09:14] <happygolucky> A_J: does gpm work in shell
[09:15] <tripelb> liveCD opens then goes to login screen and IM STUCK
[09:15] <Ampelbein> besogon: Yeah, udev is best looked at with a nice bottle of $favorite_alcoholic ;-)
[09:15] <Jigal__> hello i am running ubuntu on a virtualbox. Now i want to clone a git repo from github. But i am getting an error when cloning: gitbub.com[0: 199.59.241.244]: errno=Connection timed out
[09:15] <Jigal__> fatal: unable to connect a socket (Connection timed out) any idea's?
[09:15] <A_J> installing happygolucky stand by
[09:15] <tripelb> A_J - well that was my cheap easy guess, just in case. IDK, good luck
[09:15] <Ampelbein> Jigal__: gitbub.com is not github.com
[09:15] <besogon> :)
[09:16] <matrixiumn> lol
[09:16] <Jigal__> lol
[09:16] <Jigal__> tnx Ampelbein
[09:16] <tripelb> ok I be ignored and must sleep. BUT how can I do a disk integrity check with 11.04 -- it is all so automatic I dont get the text list at the start.  Please help me.
[09:17] <A_J> happygolucky: it works but my mouse does not
[09:17] <tripelb> A_J - I wonder, have you tried an external mouse?
[09:18] <A_J> yup that works
[09:18] <tripelb> disk integrity check on 11.04 -- can I?
[09:18] <Ampelbein> tripelb: 'man fsck' will show you how to do it.
[09:18] <tripelb> A_J, that suggests mouse driver
[09:18] <llutz_> tripelb: better to use disk like ultimatebootcd which come with more specialized tools for this
[09:19] <tripelb> Ampelbein, there used to be such a choice at the startup screen. Is there a way to get that screen?  --
[09:19] <A_J> umm, found it. The f3 button had got stuck, that disables and enables trackpad
[09:19] <A_J> lemme give it a reboot
[09:19] <A_J> brb
[09:19] <Ampelbein> tripelb: Hold the SHIFT key after the BIOS, this will bring up the grub menu.
[09:19] <happygolucky> tripelb: you could umount and use badblocks to check the disk physically or i suppose fsck on reboot i.e. sudo shutdown -R -F now or touch /forcefsck
[09:19] <tripelb> hi llutz, I burned 11.04, started it up and it "randomly" goes to a login screen that I cant sign into cause ITS A LIVECD.  Big huh? Any ideas?
[09:20] <A_J> ty tripelb AND happygolucky
[09:20] <tripelb> Ampelbein, how do I know when "after the Bios" is or does it matter?
[09:20] <llutz_> tripelb: no, i don't use desktop live-cds
[09:20] <IamTrying> ASUS Eee pad transformer i have. There today i installed Ubuntu and now i get this how can i fix it? e.g: http://i.imgur.com/E9o16.png
[09:20] <Ampelbein> tripelb: Just hold shift when the computer starts.
[09:21] <llutz_> happygolucky: fyi shutdown -F   doesn't work with ubuntu since upstart came in
[09:21] <happygolucky> well debian based distribution
[09:21] <tripelb> llutz all I want to do is back up the mac. and my external HD is ubuntu. no other computers. (restoring the mac will be another issue but I will do  a clean install of a newer mac os.
[09:21] <tripelb> thanks Ampelbein
[09:22] <llutz_> tripelb: you asked about checking disk-integrity, thus my answer
[09:23] <A_J> what would be the recommended partition size for a boot drive with no data containing ubuntu ?
[09:23] <darkfur93> Anyone here good with grub2?
[09:23] <tripelb> see you on the flip. -- btw llutz, the wireless works in 11.04 and the empathy does have irc. so far so good. Yes NP re your answer. I was filling you in from my prev. meanwhile Ampelbein told me to hold down shift while it boots. (for 5 minutes I guess, so tomorrow)
[09:23] <tripelb> night night
[09:24] <linuxuz3r> darkfur93: what seems to be the problem
[09:24] <A_J> nn tripelb
[09:24] <skilz> How to change permissions for /mnt/media so I can read/write to it?
[09:24] <matrixiumn> night
[09:24] <llutz_> skilz: unix-fs? use chown/chmod
[09:24] <A_J> what would be the recommended partition size for a boot drive with no data containing ubuntu ?
[09:25] <happygolucky> A_J 200 megs
[09:25] <Ampelbein> A_J: What do you mean by "no data"? /usr,/var,/home on a different partition?
[09:25] <A_J> lol 200 megs
[09:25] <A_J> i mean i'm gonna put all my data in another drive
[09:25] <A_J> just programs in this one
[09:25] <A_J> 30 gigs ?
[09:26] <llutz_> A_J: so you mean the /-fs not /boot
[09:26] <darkfur93> @linuxuz3r I'm trying to add XP to the bootloader. The partition it's on is /dev/sdc4
[09:26] <A_J> no that would be the boot drive also
[09:26] <andyn> hi, i'm having trouble printing from flash applets in chromium. when i press the applet's print button, it opens the wrong print dialog with just a drop down list to choose a printer and two page range input fields. i expected it to show the large gnome print dialog that allows printing to pdf. running oneiric amd64.
[09:26] <Ampelbein> A_J: That question is nigh impossible to answer. Noone knows what programs you want to install.
[09:26] <A_J> true, but 30 gb should be enough no Ampelbein
[09:27] <Ampelbein> A_J: With 30gb you could install almost all packages in ubuntu. So yes.
[09:27] <A_J> thanks Ampelbein
[09:32] <darkfur93> Would the rootnoverify  be (hd0,4) because XP is on partition 4?
[09:33] <happygolucky> darkfur93: i used to multiboot windows and linux, the best way was to let windows handle the booting
[09:33] <Diamondcite> .... Since when did the Windows Boot loader do better than Lilo or GRUB?
[09:34] <fgiw> Does anyone here have experience using UEFI? I have an issue where editing the boot manager entries causes issues saving some BIOS settings, also from a certain number of additions/changes no more entries can be added, even when existing ones are deleted
[09:34] <happygolucky> darkfur93: there's a place in system under startup and recovery for all that
[09:35] <happygolucky> windows doesnt play nice with lilo and grub in my experience
[09:35] <velmis> i dont really like lilo
[09:36] <Diamondcite> happyface: And yet I've seen Windows 7 systems not boot successfully after a fresh install... but it boots just fine after installing grub x.x
[09:36] <happygolucky> and to install linux last because windows overwrites everything
[09:36] <Diamondcite> err not happyface, happygolucky
[09:36] <Diamondcite> Well installing linux last has always been true
[09:39] <happygolucky> and you have to no install the bootloader when installing linux for that to work
[09:39] <happygolucky> so
[09:40] <dr_willis> Ive always used grub to handle it all.. windoes tends to mess things up badly in my experience.
[09:40] <paissad> hello guys, i would like to know if iptables rules remain after the machine reboot
[09:40] <paissad> thanks in advance
[09:40] <dr_willis> paissad:  if you saved them.. yes.. if not  no.
[09:40] <paissad> dr_willis,saving ?
[09:40] <MrMind> Hi. is something wrong with the hard drive if it not have the same "Last mount time:" and "Last write time"? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/750405/
[09:40] <Diamondcite> paissad: No all ip tables rules are reset, unless you have they added as part of the boot process
[09:41] <paissad> dr_willis, how would i save it ?
[09:41] <dr_willis> paissad:  correct... if you do a iptables whatever   command.. and reboot.. it is NOT saved by default
[09:41] <dr_willis> !iptables
[09:41] <paissad> dr_willis, Diamondcite, ok thanks
[09:41] <happygolucky> sure it works that's why he's here saying it doesn't
[09:41] <llutz_> paissad: iptables-save iptables-restore if you don't use ufw
[09:41] <paissad> llutz, i never use ufw,  only iptables
[09:42] <llutz_> paissad: one way: add short scripts to /etc/network/ip-down.d   (if-up.d) performing save/restore actions
[09:43] <paissad> llutz, i have a script /opt/scripts/firewall.sh which is called at startup via an init.d script in /etc/init.d/paissad.sh (i put my personal directives here :))
[09:43] <kantor> hello
[09:43] <kantor> How can I enable mouse cursor in virtual terminals in ubuntu (tty's)?
[09:44] <llutz_> paissad: lots of ways will work, pick what you like
[09:44] <paissad> indeed, thanks anyway
[09:44] <Ampelbein> kantor: You could have a look at 'gpm'
 should i run apt-get autoremove? there are some packages that are supposed to be automatically installed and no longer needed
 or will it break my system?
[09:44] <truefx> how can i find a shortcut's icon file on hard disk ?
[09:45] <Ampelbein> Timewarper: You can safely remove them.
[09:45] <kantor> Thanks Ampelbein
[09:45] <AndyLeeds> I'm trying to install pd-extended on an ubuntu 11.10 laptop, but before I get anywhere it has a insatisfiable dependency on libquicktime1..I have libquicktime2 installed, how do I go about making it use libquicktime2 instead?
[09:46] <Ampelbein> AndyLeeds: ask the package maintainer for a rebuild.
[09:46] <dr_willis> AndyLeeds:  where is pd-extended comming from? its wanting an outdated lib. it seems.
[09:47] <AndyLeeds> from the website..and it was one of their 'nightly builds' so I don't see how it would be asking for out of date software
[09:47] <dr_willis> AndyLeeds:  if they are building on a system with older libs...
[09:47] <dr_willis> mention it in their forums perhaps?
[09:48] <AndyLeeds> ok, cheers :)
[09:48] <Ampelbein> AndyLeeds: I can't find pd-extended for oneiric on their website.
[09:48] <AndyLeeds> no I couldn't either
[09:48] <dr_willis> That sounds like they are building it on an older release to me. :)
[09:49] <dr_willis> if they are providing a repo/ppa.. you could use the build-deps option and try to recompile it yourself.
[09:53] <rodhash> Hello guys.. is there any way to list the processes priorities??
[09:54] <dr_willis> check the options to the ps command?
[09:54] <Ampelbein> rodhash: use top?
[09:55] <fgiw> I use a computer with two nics attached to one network. they both get their own IP from the DHCP server. How can I make sure the routing to external addresses goes through eth1? Where can I best edit eth0 does not request/use the default gateway info?
[09:55] <andyn> see the output of the route command
[09:56] <rodhash> Amanas, It worked ..
[09:56] <rodhash> but what about ps? I'm not finding it in its man...
[09:56] <Ampelbein> fgiw: the dev option in the route command is used for that
[09:56] <andyn> there should be a line that starts with "default" and the last field on the same line is the interface
[09:57] <fgiw> Ampelbein: andyn: so I restet the default route in rc.local? now default is 'randomly' assigned to eth0 or eth1
[09:57] <fgiw> restet=reset
[09:58] <llutz_> rodhash: ps -eo pri,more-fields
[09:58] <xeocs> hello! how to change tty into English version?
[09:58] <rodhash> found it!!
[09:58] <rodhash> llutz, thank you !
[09:59] <xeocs> I couldn't get Chinese characters display right in tty mode..
[10:00] <Varazir> Hello, I have a problem with my HTPC, it's connected to a HC and when the system boots I get this error msg Fatal server error: [    59.699] no screens found
[10:00] <jase_> xeocs: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[10:00] <Varazir> ubuntu 11.10
[10:00] <xeocs> jase_: Thanks! trying!
[10:00] <Ampelbein> fgiw: Why in rc.local? Depending on the tool you use to connect to the network you can find everything you need in /etc/network
[10:01] <Varazir> Not that strange due to the HC systeam isn't on when I power on and sometime I forget to turn it on. is there a way to work around it ?
[10:02] <fgiw> Ampelbein: then i'd probably need to set dhcp-client-parameters for the individual nics in /etc/network/interfaces right?
[10:02] <Varazir> is there a way to "save" the state it was on last boot and not trying to config the screens on boot ?
[10:05] <Ampelbein> fgiw: No. You most likely want something like 'ip route add -net 192.168.1.0/24 gw 192.168.1.1 dev eth1' in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:06] <Ampelbein> fgiw: erm, sorry. 'up route add' of course.
[10:06] <xeocs> jase_: it doesn't work somehow..
[10:07] <xeocs>  still can't get it display right..
[10:07] <jase_> xeocs: it errors or doesn't do what you want?
[10:07] <Ampelbein> fgiw: 'man 5 interfaces' for a complete overview.
[10:08] <fgiw> Ampelbein: OK, thanks. I'd probably need to delete the default routes set by the dhcpclient as well, besides add a new one. Will read the man page a bit...
[10:10] <xeocs> jase_: well, when i was installing ubuntu server, i selected Chinese Simplified as my language, but when i entered tty mode, i could not get any characters, em.. all the Chinese chaacters are not recongnizable
[10:11] <truefx> how can i change resize icon in ubuntu ? its sooo ugly. my cursor theme is oxygen but when i try to resize some ugly primitive black cursor appear. Thats not case with windows os, plz help,
[10:12] <xeocs> jase_: it errors...
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> whats a good gui screen recorder for mpeg video
[10:15] <jase_> xeocs: what's the error?
[10:16] <Ampelbein> !screencast | lotuspsychje
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> Ampelbein: tnx
[10:17] <xeocs> jase_:All the chinese characters are diamond, none of them can be recongnized.. i wonder if i could change Chinese language into English..please help!! Thank you!!
[10:17] <jase_> have you got the en language pack installed? if not you need it then the dpkg-reconfigure console-setup should allow you to change to the en lang pack
[10:18] <rodhash> Guys... Why I can't grep guake with 'ps -eo' ?? I can grep any application but not for guake...
[10:18] <rodhash> very odd
[10:18] <Ampelbein> rodhash: What?
[10:19] <rodhash> Ampelbein,  ps -eo pid,ni,pri,pcpu,pmem,stat,comm | grep guake --> this doesn't work.... but ps aux | grep guake works
[10:20] <rodhash> ohhh gosh... Amanas I found it... I should grep for python
[10:21] <xeocs> jase_: em.. how to install a language pack?
[10:21] <rodhash> Ampelbein, it still making no sense
[10:21] <Ampelbein> rodhash: I don't know guake but if it's a python script it makes complete sense.
[10:21] <dr_willis> whats the term called when you take an audio/video file and alter the sound to reduce the low end hum/static from a low quality conversion. Trying to clean up the audio on some home movies converted from vhs
[10:22] <dr_willis> !info guake
[10:22] <llutz_> rodhash: it appears a "python"
[10:22] <glebihan> rodhash, this should also work : ps -efo pid,ni,pri,pcpu,pmem,stat,comm | grep guake
[10:22] <llutz_> as
[10:22] <rodhash> Ampelbein,  Yes it is... but "ps aux | grep python", doesn't find guake
[10:22] <glebihan> rodhash, oh no sorry
[10:22] <jase_> xeocs: sudo apt-get install language-pack-en-base
[10:22] <xeocs> jase_: THANK YOU!!
[10:23] <rodhash> glebihan, it was close :)
[10:23] <jase_> xeocs: hope it works
[10:24] <Ampelbein> rodhash: What is the complete output of 'ps aux'?
[10:24] <llutz_> rodhash: use ,command    not ,comm
[10:24] <glebihan> rodhash, well the thing is, ps aux shows the command as initially types (so there's isn't python in it). On the contrary, the command with "ps -eo" only the shows the columns you specify (so not the one containing guake)
[10:25] <llutz_> rodhash: fname/comm only show the binary (which is python)
[10:25] <Ampelbein> dr_willis: do you mean denoise?
[10:25] <rodhash> llutz, amazing... thank you!
[10:25] <ToonTownStone> Hi. I have a problem installing Ubuntu 11.10 un a machine that ran 9.10 already. I keep getting kernel panic... Can I fix it?
[10:26] <Ampelbein> ToonTownStone: Without telling us the machine specs and the kernel panic you get: No.
[10:26] <dr_willis> Ampelbein:  im trying to figure out what to google for. :)  'normalize' means just tweaking the volume.  wanting to cut out the low end stuff.
[10:27] <ToonTownStone> Ampelbein, it's a Medion Akoya MD8800, Dual Core Intel proccessor, 2x 1GB DDR3 RAMs, 1TB Samsung Hard Drive.
[10:29] <dr_willis> seem audaicty can do it for audio files. but that would mean i have to  split/rebuild my video files. Looking for an app like audacity that can do stuff to the sound track of a video file.
[10:30] <dr_willis> unless audacity can just pass through the video portion.
[10:30] <Ampelbein> ToonTownStone: "Dual Core Intel processor" is about as accurate as "4 cylinder BMW". What processor is it exactly? And what is the kernel panic?
[10:34] <Guest61234> ciao
[10:34] <ToonTownStone> Ampelbein, its a hardware error, it wont tell me more than it' a dual core proccessor 2.12GHz
[10:35] <wooter> cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep model
[10:35] <love4linux> hello...I am trying to edit my main menu through the 'main menu' icon but when I press 'properties' for a given icon it doesnt do anything.. is that a bug? or is it my ubuntu that is not responding? note: I upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10
[10:35] <Ampelbein> wooter: Hard to do when the kernel panics.
[10:36] <wooter> true, i dont think the model is relevant anyway, Ampelbein id try different cd, reinsert hardware, test ram , hard drive
[10:36] <wooter> what type of videocard Ampelbein ?
[10:36] <Ampelbein> wooter: Ask ToonTownStone, not me ;-)
[10:36] <wooter> sorry
[10:36] <ToonTownStone> -.-
[10:37] <ToonTownStone> Ill try to install an older version because it ran on the computer before and upgrade after.
[10:40] <SavageWolf> Ugh, am I the only one who keeps getting annoying bugs in Unity which require killing the XServer?
[10:40] <lotuspsychje> where to find xvidcap config file?
[10:42] <Ampelbein> SavageWolf: Check on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity if your bug is already reported.
[10:42] <Ampelbein> SavageWolf: If it isn't, use 'ubuntu-bug unity' to report one.
[10:43] <SavageWolf> It should be reported, somewhere...
[10:43] <sly__> Morning people (from the uk). I use openbox/tint i was wondering if anyone knows of any program to lock certain desktops till a password is entered. I do different things on their own desktop. but do not want anyone who happens to just want to browse the web on my desktop to see what is on say desktop 4 etc etc
[10:43] <sharpK> 11.10 Ubuntu Desktop: Should an administrator be able to edit files in etc?
[10:43] <sharpK> because I am getting a permission denied type error
[10:43] <SavageWolf> But I'm just wondering if, in general, Unity is quite buggy... It keeps crashing and malfunctioning...
[10:44] <SavageWolf> Sharp, you need to be root, `gksudo nautilus` should do it.
[10:44] <MrHanjrah> sharpK: i guess only 'root' can edit files in /etc
[10:45] <Varazir> Hmm when the systeam can't find the screen(HCsysteam not started) After I have turned on my HCsystem I tried to run startx from a consol and get "user not authorized to run the X server, aborting" tried the start with sudo, GUI starts up but wrong session
[10:45] <Varazir> is there a nother way to do it ?
[10:45] <sharpK> it's telling me to create a folder
[10:45] <sharpK> or something or other
[10:45] <Varazir> ubuntu 11.10
[10:46] <tubuntu9839> hi ppl - is there anonimizer for Ubuntu?
[10:46] <SavageWolf> What is telling you to make a folder?
[10:46] <Phr3d13> Tor?
[10:46] <MrHanjrah> Tor ftw!
[10:46] <Ampelbein> sharpK: What is the exact error you get? What is the command you are using?
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> xvidcap crashed on ocelot, what does this mean: xtoffmpeg.c guess_input_pix_fmt(): image depth 32 not supported ... aborting
[10:47] <Ampelbein> Varazir: You don't use startx, you use the login manager, like gdm, light-dm or kdm.
[10:48] <Varazir> Ampelbein: then I get ** (gdm-binary:1879): WARNING **: Failed to acquire org.gnome.DisplayManager: Connection ":1.46" is not allowed to own the service "org.gnome.DisplayManager" due to security policies in the configuration file
[10:48] <sharpK> Ampelbein, I am actually trying to share a folder on my desktop (just re-installed samba), it gives me an error saying 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot share path /home/usr/Desktop/share as we are restriced to only sharing directories we own. ask the administrator to add the line "usershare owner only = false" to the [global] section of the smb.conf to allow this
[10:48] <Ampelbein> lotuspsychje: Seems this bug is known since a few years, bug 312563
[10:48] <sharpK> so I tried to go to that file and add that like under where it says [global]
[10:48] <sharpK> but
[10:48] <sharpK> then it wouldn't let me save
[10:48] <Ampelbein> Varazir: even with sudo?
[10:48] <sharpK> saying I didn't have permission
[10:48] <FloodBot1> sharpK: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:49] <Varazir> Ampelbein: sudo gdm start
[10:49] <Varazir> gdm-binary[1882]: WARNING: GdmDisplay: display lasted 1.684355 seconds
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> Ampelbein: any solution for it?
[10:49] <Ampelbein> Varazir: pastebin /var/log/xorg.0.log
[10:49] <Varazir> Ampelbein: I'm doing this from a ssh session
[10:50] <sharpK> not sure if my big message showed up, flood bot said please don't flood
[10:50] <Ampelbein> sharpK: You need to use sudo
[10:50] <sharpK> guess I went over the chars
[10:50] <sharpK> can I GUI sudo?
[10:50] <sharpK> or would I have to share this through terminal commands?
[10:50] <Ampelbein> sharpK: 'gksudo gedit /path/to/file'
[10:50] <Varazir> Ampelbein: http://pastebin.com/qF0rFHBL
[10:50] <Phr3d13> sharpK: use pastie or pastebin
[10:52] <sharpK> http://pastebin.com/Fm5aqFCz
[10:52] <sharpK> is gksudo to edit sharing or just permissions for the file that would supposedly allow sharing (the one in etc)?
[10:52] <dr_willis> sharpK:  hmm. clarify what you mean.
[10:53] <harrystud> hello
[10:53] <dr_willis> gksudo runs speicifc apps with root access.
[10:53] <dr_willis> root 'rights'
[10:53] <sharpK> dr_willis: I need to edit a samba conf file in /etc/ I can't seem to do it in the GUI because I can't save it
[10:53] <sharpK> I need to add a line to it
[10:53] <dr_willis> sharpK:  you need to launch the text editor with root rights..
[10:53] <Ampelbein> Varazir: Have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RemoteXHowTo
[10:53] <dr_willis> gksudo gedit /etc/whatever/file/you/want
[10:53] <Varazir> Ampelbein: ok I don't want to start it in the ssh sesstion
[10:53] <dr_willis> or via command line... sudo nano /etc/whatever/
[10:54] <harrystud> any girls wanna chat
[10:54] <harrystud> pvt me please
[10:54] <Flannel> harrystud: This isnt a place for that.  Thanks.
[10:54] <Phr3d13> !ot |harrystud
[10:55] <harrystud> what  chat room is this please
[10:55] <Phr3d13> It is #ubuntu
[10:55] <harrystud> what does that mean
[10:55] <sharpK> well, at least it let me set the sharing permissions, but still an error when trying to access the folder on Ubunutu through windows.
[10:55] <sharpK> Dagnabit
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> where can i find xvidcap config file?
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> sharpK: what error?
[10:56] <Effex> I'm wanting to setup my private network's server with a pastebin under Ubuntu. Is there a pastebin package I can install or does anyone have any advice in how I'd go about doing it?
[10:57] <dr_willis> sharpK:   a direcotry you are shareing also has to have the proper filesystem permissions.
[10:57] <garden92> is there a way i can change how fast the dock closes?
[10:57] <sharpK> ActionParsnip: Windows cannot acces \\SERVER\share --- Check the spelling of the name. Otherwise, there might be a problem with your network. To try to identify and resolve network problems, click Diagnose.
[10:57] <dr_willis> sharpK:  and you need to give the user a samba password 'sudo smbpasswd -a username'
[10:57] <Ampelbein> Effex: for example 'pnopaste'
[10:57] <Ampelbein> Varazir: You lost me now. What do you want to do?
[10:58] <dr_willis> sharpK:  the smb.conf file also has a feature to  enable 'home' shares - where each user can have their own home directory as a persnal 'share' accessable by windows.
[10:58] <Varazir> Ampelbein: I have Harman Kardon Amplifier (HCsysteam) and when I power on my systems (HTPC and the HC) the HC is in standby and my HTPC can't find any screens, GUI fails to start
[10:58] <TimothyA> how do I automatically reboot the server on a kernel panic? And no, I don't give a damn it's a bad idea.
[10:58] <Effex> Thanks Ampelbein, just what I was looking for!
[10:58] <dr_willis> if its kernel paniced.. you really dont have any option then a reboot.. but never seen a way to automatically reboot on a panic.
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> sharpK: can you ping the hostname
[10:59] <Varazir> Ampelbein: I like to find a way to get the GUI up without restarting the systeam
[10:59] <sharpK> dr_willis, so when I rightclick share a folder on ubunntu and allow guest access, shouldn't that let them get into the folder without user/pass?
[10:59] <dr_willis> http://www.linuxhowtos.org/Tips%20and%20Tricks/autoreboot.htm first google hit i saw
[10:59] <TimothyA> dr_willis: ....
[11:00] <TimothyA> so you're saying, I will ALWAYS lose money when a server decides to crap itself and the guy supposed to take care of the server is gone?
[11:00] <dr_willis> sharpK:  if you set it to alliow it - it should.. but you dont need to edit smb.conf for that..  or do anything as root.
[11:00] <Ampelbein> Varazir: ok, 'sudo service gdm start' should do then.
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> sharpK: i've seen users need to set a password for folders set in $HOME but the error doesn't imply that
[11:00] <dr_willis> reboot on kernel panic. several older posts  i just googled.. seems theres a  system variable/kernel var to do it.
[11:00] <dr_willis> http://www.linuxhowtos.org/Tips%20and%20Tricks/autoreboot.htm
[11:01] <sharpK> ActionParsnip, what;s teh ipconfig equivalent for terminal?
[11:01] <dr_willis> All you have to do is add the kernel parameter panic=X to your boot line in your bootloader (linux, grub, or others).
[11:01] <dr_willis>  X is the timeout in seconds. The kernel waits X seconds and reboots. A value of 0 means the feature is disabled (default).
[11:01] <sharpK> dr_willis, well, it is checked, and so set to do that, but windows still can't seem to access the server...that's why I thought I might have to edit the file (saw a guide on ubunutu site)
[11:02] <dr_willis> sharpK:  try accessing it by ip#. not hostname
[11:02] <dr_willis>  \\server.ip.number
[11:02] <dr_willis>  \\server.ip.number\sharename
[11:02] <sharpK> dr_willis what is the ipconfig equivalent for linux terminal?
[11:02] <dr_willis> sharpK:  you mean ifconfig? :)
[11:03] <Ampelbein> TimothyA: You could read up on sysctl and the kernel.panic parameter.
[11:03] <sharpK> rgr, I am used to cmdprmpt :)
[11:03] <dr_willis> Add the following to /etc/sysctl.conf:
[11:03] <dr_willis> kernel.panic = 20
[11:04] <sharpK> hmm, still the same windows error
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> sharpK: ifconfig
[11:04] <TimothyA> Ampelbein: already done that
[11:04] <TimothyA> it has no effect
[11:04] <Varazir> Ampelbein: didn't work :(
[11:04] <dr_willis> sharpK:  try disabling the windows firewall as a test.. see if the windows box can ping the linux box. see if the linux box can ping/access shares on the windows box.
[11:04] <TimothyA> I had to wait 20 HOURS on the server to get rebooted. it did that miracilously on its own
[11:04] <sharpK> yeah, tried //192.168.1.103/share
[11:04] <sharpK> will try
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> sharpK: can you ping the name? can you ping the IP?
[11:05] <sharpK> I can ping the ip
[11:05] <sharpK> from windows
[11:05] <Ampelbein> Varazir: "didn't work" is not an error message.
[11:05] <Varazir> Ampelbein: getting them :)
[11:05] <dr_willis> sharpK:  ive seen windows firewalls get in the way. :) i tend to disable them when im behind a router.
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> sharpK: ok then you can use the IP as you said above
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> sharpK: which version of windows is the client?
[11:06] <dr_willis> sharpK:  also i tend to just fallback to using ssh/winscp on windows.  seems MS managed to make samba/shares impossible to get going with the latest windows versions
[11:06] <Phr3d13> Any linux software devs in here?
[11:06] <Ampelbein> TimothyA: You added the value to /etc/sysctl.conf and rebooted?
[11:06] <sharpK> hmmm, just disbled the eset firewall for 10 minutes, but same error
[11:06] <sharpK> well, I am on 7, so you may be right
[11:06] <dr_willis> eset firewall?
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> sharpK: if you run:  smbtree   from the sambe server, do you see the shares?
[11:06] <Varazir> Ampelbein: http://pastebin.com/9D1xB0mi and http://pastebin.com/4XJVqCQA
[11:07] <sharpK> but SSH would be 3rd party on all the rest of the windows comps, correct?
[11:07] <TimothyA> Ampelbein: it crashed
[11:07] <TimothyA> and then it rebooted
[11:07] <TimothyA> after 20 hours
[11:07] <dr_willis> sharpK:  ssh and winscp are to handy to ignore. :)
[11:07] <sharpK> ActionParsnip: smbtree?
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> sharpK: yes, its a terminal command
[11:07] <Varazir> Ampelbein: and http://pastebin.com/MM5Ebmuf
[11:07] <Ampelbein> TimothyA: What value did you add?
[11:07] <dr_willis> I have a hard time even getting a windows7 box to see other windows7 box's on my homelan. :()
[11:08] <sharpK> ActionParsnip, yes, it does come up in the list
[11:08] <sharpK> my computer that is
[11:08] <dr_willis> sharpK:  the use ip not hostname trick normally works for me.
[11:08] <sharpK> and I should have mentioned, I seem to be able to access the windows files from ubunutu
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> sharpK: ok so now you can see for sure the share name. Do you have any spaces in the name, or is it just one word?
[11:08] <sharpK> I even transferred af ile over to the desktop
[11:09] <sharpK> dr_willis: I tried \\192.168.1.103\share, but got hte same error
[11:09] <dr_willis> sharpK:  thers also windows7 settings to block stuff not on the home network. i recall
[11:09] <TimothyA> Ampelbein: kernel.panic = 10
[11:09] <sharpK> Actionparsnip: nope, it says WORKGROUP \\Server\share
[11:09] <dr_willis> i started disabling eveyrhing i could find in windows.. and now i see stuff. :)
[11:10] <Ampelbein> Varazir: Can you pastebin the output of 'apt-cache policy lightdm' and 'apt-cache policy gdm' for me?
[11:10] <dr_willis> sharpK:   perhaps restart the samba  service. and/or enable its verbose logging. Its possible its a windows security setting causing the issues.
[11:10] <sharpK> heh, could be it, I can access other windows computers on my network thouhg
[11:10] <sharpK> just the ubuntu that's giving me trouble
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> sharpK: ok the samba server run:  sudo smbpasswd -a $USER      then set the same password as you log in with as the samba password, now when you hit the server you should be challenged for authentication and you can tell your OS to store the credential. Or you can use it to map a network drive
[11:10] <Ampelbein> TimothyA: What is the result of uname -a?
[11:10] <TimothyA> 2.6.32-24-server #43-Ubuntu SMP Thu Sep 16 16:05:42 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:10] <dr_willis> because MS likes to enable special scrutity things. (homegroup stuff) and other annoyances. :)
[11:11] <dr_willis> sharpK:  so NONE of the windows machines can see the linux box.. it can see all the windows machines... and the window machines can see each other?
[11:11] <Varazir> Ampelbein: http://pastebin.com/UBwPTuiR http://pastebin.com/fw065pnG
[11:11] <happygol1cky> sharpK: another point is if you're using a wireless adapter for windows you want to enable the wireless zero configuration
[11:12] <sharpK> dr_willis, I'll try to run to another room and see if I can get into ubunutu from there...
[11:12] <sharpK> happygol1cky: nope, all through ethernet into a WRT54g
[11:12] <dr_willis> sharpK:  ive definatly had shares not work when on wireless.. and then do work when wired on windows.. it may be what happygol1cky  just mentioned.
[11:12] <dr_willis> sharpK:  vnc would save the running around. :)
[11:12] <sharpK> Actionparsnip: done, but the same error in wondows
[11:12] <gjois> hello!!
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> sharpK: ive seen users had to reboot router and server
[11:13] <dr_willis> ive seen people fight for hrs getting a share to show up.. then  suddendly it appears..... with nothing done on their end.. :)
[11:13] <sharpK> I guess I'll have to give it a go, brother it playing Dota2 though, so a reboot could mean the end of me right now...
[11:13] <happygol1cky> sharpK: did you allow 192.168.1.*
[11:13] <sharpK> happygol1cky: ubuntu or windows?
[11:14] <sharpK> and how?
[11:14] <happygol1cky> smb conf
[11:14] <dr_willis> I got a $20 NAS with USB. that every box in the house can see.. the boxeebox (running some linux) can see every share.. but ive had windows box's not want to see each other... :) go figure.
[11:14] <Ampelbein> Varazir: Ok, could you have a look at 805154 and try the workaround mentioned there (with lightdm)?
[11:14] <Ampelbein> Varazir: bug 805154
[11:14] <sharpK> what is the specific line I would look for?
[11:14] <Varazir> Ampelbein: can do that
[11:15] <dr_willis> we need sshfs for windows :)
[11:16] <sharpK> happygol1cky: I search for 192.168 in the smc.conf file, it doesn't find anything, so what line to I add
[11:16] <sharpK> ?
[11:16] <gjois> im running windows and need to install virtual box and boot ubuntu on it. But i heard that virtualbox degrades memory performance, so want install only text-mode ubuntu on virtualbox.  can anyone guide me how can i do it??
[11:16] <Ampelbein> TimothyA: Sorry, I can't find any problem mentioned with this kernel not respecting kernel.panic setting. It SHOULD work, no idea why it doesn't for you.
[11:17] <dr_willis> Hmm.. there are some sshfs for windows projects out there... nifty
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> gjois: grab the server or minimal install and run that, you will get a CLI based OS. If you want a mouse based interface, install desktop. It doesn't degrade memory performance, you are just runnning 2 OSes at the same time so it will slow down the system
[11:19] <happygol1cky> sharpK: i think i might have been thinking print server, nevermind that, but in that file you should set path, browsable to yes, read only to no, quest ok = no, create mask = 0644, directory mask = 0755, force user = YourUsername, force group = YourGroupName
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: swish-sftp :)
[11:19] <happygol1cky> *guest not quest
[11:20] <sharpK> happygol1cky: restarting the ubuntu now, will try it when as soon as it comes up
[11:22] <Varazir> Ampelbein: there is no workaround, like forcing ubuntu use the last setting and not scaning for a screen ?
[11:23] <Ampelbein> Varazir: The problem is a segfault (also known as a crash) in your logs. It seems a known problem with gdm, that's why I asked to try with lightdm.
[11:23] <dr_willis> ActionParsnip:  just saw one called dokan sshfs.. but i cant figure out how to get it to use my ssh key. :)
[11:24] <Varazir> Ampelbein: ok
[11:24] <Ampelbein> Varazir: Comment #11 from the bug link.
[11:24] <canterer> why I cannot kill the thread ?
[11:24] <canterer> ps aux | grep 'java'
[11:24] <Guest85224> is there a way to convert batch all files in folders from encoding ascii to utf8?
[11:24] <Varazir> Ampelbein: gona look into it
[11:25] <canterer> yp        6393  0.0  0.2  41580  8716 pts/0    Tl   19:21   0:00 vim hello.java
[11:25] <canterer> kill 6393
[11:25] <canterer> but the thread is alive
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> canterer: try:  kill -9 6393
[11:25] <A_J> hello ActionParsnip
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> A_J: yo yo yo
[11:25] <happygol1cky> sharpK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/751303/ that's what mine looks like, the share is at the bottom
[11:26] <canterer> OK  thanks , but what is the reason ?
[11:26] <Varazir> Ampelbein: /usr/sbin/lightdm is allready as default
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> canterer: no idea, maybe it's hung and a graceful kill won't work. -9 will kill it with no regard for consequence
[11:27] <Ampelbein> Varazir: Then try 'sudo service lightdm restart'
[11:27] <Ampelbein> Guest85224: iconv can do that
[11:27] <A_J> ActionParsnip: u here, or goin in some time ?
[11:27] <canterer> ah  fun:)
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> A_J: in and out
[11:28] <happygol1cky> sharpK: you could also access it from ssh, I use cygwin and putty for complete access
[11:28] <A_J> kk needed some help partioning, when i reach the screen during installation will ping u
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> A_J: ask the channel
[11:28] <A_J> but ut awesome
[11:28] <A_J> ur*
[11:30] <sharpK> do I have to restart samba after saving the smv.conf file?
[11:30] <sharpK> *smb.conf
[11:31] <Ampelbein> sharpK: yes
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> A_J: i'll see it and so will everybody else
[11:31] <sharpK> cmd?
[11:31] <happygol1cky> service smbd restart
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> A_J: x+1 > 1
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> sharpK: failing that use:  sudo service smbd stop; sudo service smbd start
[11:33] <Varazir> Ampelbein: worked :D now I just make it restart it self if it fail
[11:33] <Guest27720> hi - was wondering how i disable xorg to install drivers from nvidia website . any help would be great
[11:35] <sharpK> Well, some progress
[11:35] <sharpK> http://i.imgur.com/DOKr3.png
[11:35] <sharpK> It could see the new [___] folder I created
[11:35] <sharpK> but still gave an error
[11:35] <sharpK> I tried setting guest ok = yes
[11:35] <sharpK> bt stil got that
[11:36] <sharpK> I set force group = WORKGROUP, but could that be wrong?
[11:37] <happygol1cky> sharpK: you're positive wireless zero cinfiguration is an enabled service and running?
[11:37] <Guest27720> or at least what i can do to disable xorg so i can install the drivers from the website :S
[11:37] <sharpK> isn't wireless zero for wifi?
[11:37] <happygol1cky> yes
[11:38] <sharpK> both computers are connected by ethernet to a WRT54G router
[11:38] <sharpK> I know they can somehwat see eachother
[11:38] <sharpK> because I got synergy working on both
[11:38] <sharpK> the mouse and keyboard transfer over
[11:38] <sharpK> so that's something
[11:38] <solringel> hi i need help with something
[11:39] <Guest27720> so can anyone shoot me advice or am i going to have to botch my xorg.conf file so it doesnt load properly
[11:39] <CoinBR> Just installed Ubuntu Server and 2 network cards (same models). One of them work OK as eth0. But the second one is UNCLAIMED and don't work
[11:39] <happygol1cky> Guest27720: i dont think xorg has a conf file anymore
[11:39] <CoinBR> why?
[11:39] <CoinBR> lshw shows the second ethernet card as UNCLAIMED, and had no MAC ADDRESS
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> CoinBR: what is the chip it uses?
[11:40] <A_J> damn how long does it take for the live cd to boot up :|
[11:40] <Guest27720> happygolicky it does , do some of my config through it . so i guess ima have to do that since im having a hard time finding out what ubuntu is using as the main login manager like gdm/kdm/xdm
[11:40] <solringel> i am using ubuntu 11.10 with unity and there is an option to show battery life with time remaining but when i set it it doesnt do anything how do i fix that?
[11:41] <CoinBR> ActionParsnip: RLT-8139/8139C/8139C+
[11:41] <CoinBR> ActionParsnip: both of them are the same model
[11:41] <happygol1cky> Guest27720: i have nvidia, http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html i downloaded this for 64 bit. chmod +x and then ./FILENAME it installs nvidia drivers
[11:42] <solringel> i am using ubuntu 11.10 with unity and there is an option to show battery life with time remaining but when i set it it doesnt do anything how do i fix that?
[11:42] <Guest27720> happy - it asks me to disable xorg to install the drivers unfortunatly
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> happygol1cky: the nvidia drivers are in the repos
[11:43] <happygol1cky> not for 3d vision sir
[11:43] <happygol1cky> which i have
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> happygol1cky: yes, the nvidia driver from nvidia is in the repos
[11:43] <A_J> ActionParsnip: how long does the live cd normally take to boot up A?
[11:43] <Guest27720> 3d vision is an addon to the driver itself :P
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> A_J: depends on spec
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> Guest27720: oh vison..
[11:43] <Guest27720> but can anyone just let me know how to safley disable xorg while i install the drivers
[11:44] <Guest27720> im not doing 3d vision
[11:44] <Guest27720> just drivers from nvidias website
[11:44] <Guest27720> for the gtx 450 i have
[11:44] <happygol1cky> i have gtx 560m
[11:44] <happygol1cky> works for me
[11:44] <A_J> intel atom 1.6ghz single core ActionParsnip
[11:44] <Guest27720> not what i was asking but thank you
[11:44] <Varazir> anyone have any hints how to make a service that fail start again ?
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> my bad
[11:45] <happygol1cky> oh lol
[11:45] <happygol1cky> ps -C Xorg
[11:45] <solringel> can any1 help me out with a small issue?
[11:45] <happygol1cky> then sudo kill the pid
[11:45] <Guest27720> xorg restarts
[11:46] <Guest27720> ive done that already , as well as unity-greeting - xorg restarts each time
[11:46] <happygol1cky> oh oh wait l something
[11:46] <sasori> the touch/trackpad of my ubuntu11.04 lappy doesn't work..any idea/tips what to install to make it work?...coz the drivers from the cd it has is for windows only
[11:47]  * A_J waits for ActionParsnip reply
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> sasori: what make / model is it?
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> sasori  try gpoint blah
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> A_J: how much RAM?
[11:48] <sasori> ActionParsnip: it's a lenovo Y410 59012531 ( to be exact )
[11:48] <kbhtech1> Checking on this, I just went through setup hell.
[11:48] <amirwebdev2> is there a way to convert batch all files in folders from encoding ascii to utf8?
[11:48] <sasori> gpoint?
[11:48] <happygol1cky> Guest27720: i'm severely mixing up distros but I think what you need to do is sudo service gdm stop
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> sasori: is there a shortcut to enable/disable the touchpad?
[11:49] <A_J> 4 gigs ActionParsnip
[11:49] <Ampelbein> amirwebdev2: iconv -f ASCII -t utf8 *
[11:49] <amirwebdev2> is it recursive?
[11:49] <sasori> ActionParsnip: how will i know ?
[11:49] <Ampelbein> amirwebdev2: man iconv will tell you
[11:50] <kbhtech1> Why can't I comm on the backtrack channel?
[11:50] <amirwebdev2> i tried its not working recursive
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> sasori: look at the keyboard under your nose
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> kbhtech1: i'd ask in #freenode
[11:51] <happygol1cky> kbhtech1: probably because your nickname isn't registered with nickserv
[11:51] <Varazir> Ampelbein: thanks btw :)
[11:52] <Guest27720> happy not a recognised service
[11:52] <Guest27720> ubuntu 11.10
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> sasori: also try:  sudo modprobe -r psmouse; sleep 2; sudo modprobe psmouse
[11:52] <A_J> ActionParsnip: the load screen has gone away and now it says on a cli screen *starting bluetooth boot-time encrypted block divicescarty-i386/packages restrictedBB75451 /var/run/dbus/system_ [OK]
[11:52] <happygol1cky> Guest27720: lightdm?
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> A_J: try the boot option:  nomodeset    it should have loaded by now. I assum you MD5 tested the ISO
[11:53] <tolyan_pa> Hi all :)
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> sasori: also may want to try the boot options: i8024.reset    and/or   i8024.nomux=1   and/or   irqpoll
[11:53] <Ampelbein> amirwebdev2: find * -type f | xargs | iconv .... is the quick and dirty way.
[11:53] <Guest27720> ya was lightdm
[11:54] <Guest27720> ty
[11:54] <A_J> yes ActionParsnip, i installed once before from this disc
[11:54] <kbhtech1> Thanks for the direction ActionPasnip and happygol1cky
[11:54] <happygol1cky> Guest27720: awesome
[11:54] <happygol1cky> Guest27720: I thought it was L something
[11:54] <A_J> Gentoo64: wb
[11:55] <A_J> ActionParsnip: how do i set tha..
[11:55] <A_J> that*
[11:55] <Gentoo64> A_J: i havent been on since last night :)
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | A_J
[11:55] <sharpK> happygol1cky: finally got access to that folder, seems to work after messing with a few lines in the smcconf
[11:55] <sharpK> linux is exhausting, but thanks for all your help, friend :)
[11:55] <A_J> !nomoodreset
[11:55] <Guest27720> thanks again for the help
[11:55] <dr_willis> sharpK:  at least you have  configs to tweak
[11:55] <A_J> !nomodereset
[11:56] <dr_willis> its nomodeSET
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> A_J: nomodeset, not nomodereset
[11:56] <sharpK> dr_willis oh god what's the alternative?
[11:56] <A_J> kk ty
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> A_J: read the words, rather than what you think it says
[11:56] <A_J> !nomodeset
[11:56] <happygol1cky> sharpK: sounds good, give putty and cygwin a wack, it's neat having complete terminal in windows with ability to run all the apps including the graphical ones
[11:56] <A_J> ActionParsnip: lol netbook kebo
[11:56] <dr_willis> sharpK:  i have 2 windows machines not seeing each other.. but they both see the rest of the lan.. :) not sure where to even start trouble shooting that.
[11:57] <sharpK> happygol1cky, i'll definitely look into that for my windows comp, but I can't imagine my dad sshing to stream some media :)
[11:57] <dr_willis> accessing a share.. is not actually 'streaming'
[11:57] <dr_willis> You can set up upnp/dlna servers to do streaming i belive.
[11:57] <happygol1cky> sharpK: i mount my windows drive to my linux machine from windows in putty, it's surreal
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> sharpK: you can use swish-sftp to make a drive for sshfs
[11:58] <A_J> ActionParsnip: i never reached till here too : http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/3509/dgfdgrunningoraclevmvir.png
[11:58] <solringel> hi can any1 help me out with a small issue i am having?
[11:58] <sharpK> okay, lots of unfamiliar acronyms and apparently solutions, I'll have to spend some quality googling time...
[11:58] <A_J> it froze up before that
[11:58] <Ampelbein> !anyone | solringel
[12:00] <solringel> i am using ubuntu 11.10 wuth unity and on my laptop there is an option to show how much battery time remains but when i check it it doesnt do anything
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> A_J: i'd test RAM then
[12:00] <sweb> i want to compile nginx in ubuntu
[12:01] <sweb> it's required gd library
[12:01] <sweb> what is name of the this package ?
[12:01] <Ampelbein> solringel: What laptop (make and model)
[12:01] <Ampelbein> sweb: you can do 'sudo apt-get build-dep nginx'
[12:01] <solringel> Ampelbein:  LG-R380
[12:02] <sweb>  Ampelbein, i want to compile it by myself not using package manager
[12:02] <sweb>  Ampelbein: i will compile it with same configure on centos
[12:02] <solringel> Ampelbein: i am new to linux
[12:02] <sweb> i just wanna test it
[12:02] <Ampelbein> sweb: yes, 'sudo apt-get build-dep nginx' will install the build depnds
[12:02] <Ampelbein> sweb: so that you can then compile it
[12:02] <A_J> ActionParsnip: it's brand new. test how ?
[12:02] <Ampelbein> solringel: I fear this button is not supported currently.
[12:03] <sweb>  Ampelbein, ok ty
[12:03] <solringel> that doesnt make sense so why do i have that option
[12:03] <solringel> i there a missing package?
[12:03] <sweb>  Ampelbein: so how can i retrieve the name of package such as GD in future ?
[12:04] <dr_willis> solringel:  laptop makers love to  have their own standards for things like that.. linux cant always be correct and work with them all.
[12:04] <Ampelbein> solringel: The button is connected to a signal that a windows program interprets correctly and displays the battery life.
[12:04] <dr_willis> solringel:  ive found such #'s very unreliable also.
[12:05] <solringel> but will my laptop warn me when i am low on power?
[12:05] <dr_willis> so fun when you go from 5 hrs to 2 hrs in 3 min of game playing. :)
[12:05] <Ampelbein> solringel: There is however an indicator to help this out: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/02/battery-applet-status-ubuntu/ has more info
[12:05] <dr_willis> solringel:  ive learnd to pay attention to my battery.. even in windows. :)
[12:05] <Ampelbein> sweb: Most libraries are named 'libNAME'
[12:06] <happygolucky> dr_willis: on battery i get maybe an hour haha
[12:06] <happygolucky> this things a monster
[12:06] <solringel> thanks
[12:07] <A_J> ActionParsnip: now it's stuck on checking battery state.
[12:08] <shomon> hi, suddenly on my computer, everything video is playing at double speed with no sound
[12:08] <shomon> how do I fix this?
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> A_J: when you attempt a ram test?
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> sharpK: in which app?
[12:08] <A_J> hmm, okie memtest correct
[12:08] <A_J> i'l do that
[12:09] <sharpK> uparrow? :)
[12:09] <solringel> i got an error trying to install battery-indicator http://paste.ubuntu.com/751328/
[12:09] <shomon> anyone know how to get video to play at the right speed on ubuntu? I've tried in every player I have installed
[12:10] <shomon> and it's all super speed
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> solringel: try:  apt-cache search battery | grep stat
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> shomon: is it the same as all users? Make a new one if you only have one
[12:11] <shomon> oh no... so it could be my user stuff is corrupt?
[12:11] <shomon> this is just my laptop, no other users.
[12:11] <bastidrazor> solringel: did you add the ppa?
[12:12] <dr_willis> happygolucky:  that describes this one im on now.. it has dual hd;s and a 18.4 in screen..
[12:12] <solringel> bastidrazor: yep added the ppa then did apt-get update and then got that error
[12:12] <dr_willis> shomon:  so make a differnt user as a test. it sounds like ther emay be some deeper timeign bug going on. I had a laptop once that even the normal system clock ran at like 5x speed..
[12:13] <dr_willis> shomon:  took a bios update to fix that odd issue for me. :)
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> shomon: its worth exploring
[12:15] <shomon> thanks, works as root so I'll do that
[12:15] <shomon> got to get a film on for my kids now so will work as a stopgap :)
[12:16] <shomon> thanks!
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> shomon: logging on as root isn't supported or needed
[12:19] <solringel> bastidrazor: is there a way to fix that error
[12:19] <solringel> ?
[12:21] <bastidrazor> solringel: apt-get is not seeing that package in the ppa, it seems.
[12:21] <solringel> bastidrazor: thats weird=-O
[12:22] <happygolucky>  dr_willis same here but 17.3
[12:22] <canterer> who can speak in chinese
[12:22] <happygolucky> lay ho ma
[12:23] <happygolucky> sedona
[12:23] <oCean> canterer: this channel is english only, #ubuntu-cn for chinese
[12:24] <canterer> Ocean: thanks !
[12:27] <ilmio> ciao
[12:27] <ilmio> !list
[12:28] <Sidewinder1> !it | ilmio
[12:28] <Untouchab1e> Quick question all.. Im on 11.10 and whenever i lock the screen and wake it back up, the on-screen keyboard pops up
[12:28] <Untouchab1e> The on-screen keyboard is not enabled in the accessibility settings, so there must be some other config Im not seeing
[12:28] <Untouchab1e> anyone know where to disable it?
[12:29] <ianliu> I have 2 hard disks and before I had 2 Windows 7 installed. Now I installed Ubuntu over one Windows, but update-grub can't find the other windows. Any help?
[12:30] <rusnastya16> ðø
[12:30] <rusnastya16> sorry hi
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Untouchab1e: is there an option in dconf for lock_on_hibernate ?
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Untouchab1e: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=553961   check the last post too
[12:33] <rusnastya16> I want to meet
[12:34] <Untouchab1e> ActionParsnip: I dont believe I have OnBoard installed? Unless thats what comes with Ubuntu 11.10
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> Untouchab1e: its in a default install
[12:34] <Auriga> Anyone using screenlets in 10.04? Impulse doesn't run smoothly with Audacious, without VLC running... Any ideas?
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Untouchab1e: you could mark /usr/bin/onboard as not executable
[12:35] <Untouchab1e> ActionParsnip: ahh
[12:35] <A_J> ActionParsnip lol that mem test is yet going
[12:35] <Untouchab1e> ActionParsnip: thanks mate.. I just went into the OnBoard settings and unchecked "Show Onboard when unlocking the screen"
[12:35] <bekks> A_J: the memtest will run as long as you let it run.
[12:36] <Babu> Hi
[12:36] <Babu> any Indian lady from Singapore like to chat with me. just pm me
[12:36] <A_J> bekks this is memtest89, there is a overall percentage at the top which is 18%
[12:36] <oCean> Babu: this is ubuntu technical support, not social chat
[12:36] <A_J> !troll Babu
[12:36] <Babu> Hi troll
[12:36] <Babu> hi aj
[12:36] <rusnastya16> hi
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> Untouchab1e: that'll do it :)
[12:37] <Myrtti> Babu: this is not a social channel. Please take it elsewhere
[12:37] <Babu> ok
[12:37] <Babu> thanks
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> !ot
[12:37] <user82> does anyone know where i can create a new app-icon in gnome3?
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> user82: in /usr/share/applications and it will appear in dash
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> user82: you can copy one of the existing ones and modify it :)
[12:39] <rusnastya16> âíèìàíèå ñþäà ÿ ãîëàÿ
[12:39] <A_J> ActionParsnip i let it run correct ?
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> A_J: sure, run a full test
[12:40] <user82> thanks ActionParsnip
[12:41] <SuprEngr> Seeking advice on sensors-applet in 10.04.  I would now like it to monitor HDD temps but can't remember the requirement to enable this.
[12:42] <SuprEngr> [as I recall it notified on 1st install " this can be added later. use dpkg-configure....? or similar]
[12:42] <user82> ActionParsnip, it works :). gr8!
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> user82: easy peasy
[12:43] <user82> if you know how to do...will remember that one!
[12:44] <CharminTheMoose_> Why does /var/run, /dev/shm and /var/lock all have half my ram allocated to it? shouldn't it get split up depending on how much is being used in any given location?
[12:45] <rusnastya16> fpo\
[12:46] <shine_> Hi I am having problem to start eclipse on ubuntu 11.04
[12:46] <dr_willis>  /dev/shm is special  i belive its like how apps can access ram in special ways.
[12:47] <dr_willis> !ram
[12:47] <shine_> i installed eclipse-platform and eclipse but getting error GDK_IS_Screen
[12:47] <go^> can anyone advise me about a vnc server very light for old pc ?
[12:48] <CharminTheMoose_> dr_willis, well, /dev/shm uses tmpfs, as does /var/lock and /var/run.. just seems odd that each of them say their capacity is 990MB each! :/
[12:48] <dr_willis> go^:  its will be more of a limit as to what desktop you set the vnc server to use.
[12:48] <gulzar> how to automaticlly mount partitions on startup? And how to allow all users to access evey partition with full permissions and to mount any external disk/pendrive?
[12:48] <dr_willis> go^:  ive been using tigervnc lately.
[12:49] <dr_willis> gulzar:  edit /etc/fstab as needed. for part 1.. and for part 2 - use the proper options in fstab.. dependign on what fs yoyu are mounting
[12:49] <go^> dr_willis, tigervnc uhm..ok thank you i'll try it
[12:49] <dr_willis> gulzar:  and check 'ntfs-config' tool to tweak the auto mountingof ntfs/vfat filesystems
[12:50] <dr_willis> go^:  or tightvnc. or any other vnc server basically. they all are similer in requirements. its the desktop/wm the vncserver is running that will be the resource hog. Jwm is good for using in vnc
[12:50] <sharpK> what's the best way to view networking in/out etc in ubuntu?
[12:51] <trijntje> I used to switch between virtual desktops using the cube, but this wont work in oneiric due to a bug. What other way is there to use custom mouse buttons to switch between virtual desktops?
[12:51] <dr_willis> sharpK:   there may be some indicator-applets listed in the askubuntu.com indicator-applet listings.. depending on your needs.
[12:52] <gulzar> dr_willis: i want something automatic beacuse other users have no idea what a command line is. And they usually connect differnt pendrives. So want something whcih is automatic in mounting partitions and allow them to use it woithout any root paswword.
[12:55] <sharpK> dr_willis thanks
[12:55] <dr_willis> gulzar: what filesystem are you using will be the big question.. and are they being hotplugged in? or always plugged in..
[12:56] <dr_willis> ntfs/vfat auto mount on insertion by default here.
[12:56] <orated> How does mult-boot system affects the life of HDD? Or the presence of multiple of file systems ...
[12:56] <dr_willis> orated:  i doubt if it would have any affect at all.
[12:57] <frederik> hi everyone. i just installed gnotime and have some problems creating a project. are some experts in this channel? :)
[12:57] <dr_willis> one part of the hd would be getting used more.. if you are always using the same os. but  i doubt if it will have any effect.
[12:58] <gulzar> dr_willis: ext4
[12:58] <gulzar> dr_willis: pendrives are vfat
[12:59] <dr_willis> gulzar:  you dont just override permissions and ownership of ext4. you would haeve to watch out for that
[13:00] <orated> ok thanks dr_willis
[13:00] <gulzar> dr_willis: permissions are set so anybody can use it but problem is of mounting
[13:04] <mich> So there i sno more option to buy a dell laptop with preinstalled ubuntu?
[13:04] <A_J> omg mem test takes for ever
[13:04] <Neenoo> Hi . my os ubuntu 11.10 64bit , my problem with VGA Nvidia 8400 gs 1024 mb , i download the driver and installed and still not work , how do i know ? by some picture and some video not pure ,, any solution ?
[13:04] <dr_willis> A_J:  you can let it run for days if you wanted to.
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> A_J: depends how much RAM you have
[13:04] <A_J> 4 gigs
[13:04] <oCean> mich: contact Dell, nothing we can do about that
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> Neenoo: how did you install the driver?
[13:05] <A_J> should i stop it ActionParsnip ?
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> mich: try system76
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> A_J: if its been ok the last while then it's probably ok
[13:05] <dr_willis> Neenoo:  you did try the driver from the 'addational drivers' tool first?
[13:05] <A_J> okie. then what could be the problem not letting it boot the live cd
[13:06] <Neenoo> ActionParsnip, first way , with apt-get install nvidia-current and not worked , second way with the main site i download the driver and install it and not work either !
[13:07] <Neenoo> dr_willis, how i do that ?
[13:08] <Neenoo> ActionParsnip, the current driver is NVIDIA Driver Version: 290.10
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> Neenoo: the xorg edgers update ppa has the 285 driver, may help. Your chip isn't hugely new so the 280 driver will probably be fine
[13:09] <Neenoo> ActionParsnip, i try it in fedora 16 , it work fine but after 5 min the system crash ! 1 core of my processor goes to take task 100%
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> Neenoo: some monitors don't act as they are supposed to so you may need to run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    to make an xorg.conf file
[13:10] <cablop> i need to start a session automatically at computer boot, BUT, keep it locked
[13:10] <mich> ActionParsnip: do they ship in the EU?
[13:10] <sharpK> Here's a wacky networking question: I have a Router(1) connected to the modem. To that router, Router(2) and Router(3) are connected for internet access. How do I get Router(2) and Router(3)'s computers to see computers in Router(1)'s network as though they were in the homegroup?
[13:10] <cablop> i need to start a gui session automatically at computer boot, BUT, keep it locked
[13:11] <gulzar> what is that utility to manage sound,speakers,headphones with a GUI?
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> mich: maybe, not sure. Could ask them and see what they say
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> gulzar: gnome-alsamixer
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> gulzar: or use alsamixer in terminal
[13:13] <Sidewinder1> A_J, If Live CD won't boot, it could be several things. Did you Md5sum the ISO, prior to burning it at "the slowest speed?"
[13:13] <Neenoo> ActionParsnip, i do nvidia-xconfig !
[13:13] <A_J> yes, i have already installed once with this disc
[13:13] <A_J> and the disc looks in ok condition
[13:14] <gulzar> ActionParsnip: alsamixer is working with keyboard. I want the one which works with mouse
[13:14] <gulzar> ActionParsnip: simply drag and bars and adjust sound...
[13:14] <Sidewinder1> A_J, This'll probably sound silly but the drive could be too dusty/dirty?
[13:15] <A_J> perhaps not, it's an external.
[13:15] <zamba> how can i do 'seq' in reverse?
[13:15] <A_J> was working well a few days back
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> gulzar: then I already answered you
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> Neenoo: it needs sudo, it will genreate an xorg.conf which you can then put in place by restarting the x server
[13:16] <Sidewinder1> A_J, If you know the disk/ISO are good and it's not a hardware issue; that's about as far as I can go.. Sorry. :-(
[13:16] <Neenoo> ActionParsnip, done , now should reboot or logout ?
[13:17] <A_J> Sidewinder1, i think the boot cd loads onto the ram, the ram test is okie
[13:17] <A_J> also hdd is fine
[13:17] <A_J> i checked with HDD Sentinal
[13:17] <A_J> says helath 70%
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> Neenoo: reboot is probably easier, if you get no x server then boot to root recovery mode and rename /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:18] <gulzar> ActionParsnip: no dear. alsamixer is working with terminal and I can't use it. I am looking for something to wotk with mouse. How to do so?
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> gulzar: what else did I recommmend?
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> gulzar: scroll up and you'll see
[13:18] <gulzar> ActionParsnip: gnome-alsamixer
[13:18] <Neenoo> ActionParsnip, thanks i will try
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> bingo
[13:19] <gulzar> ActionParsnip: isntalled
[13:19] <gulzar> ActionParsnip: done
[13:19] <gulzar> ActionParsnip: thank you
[13:19] <maverick_> how do i break the command line output into parts so that they dont appear all at once, and i dont have to scroll?
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> gulzar: great when you read, huh
[13:20] <gulzar> ActionParsnip: i installed it but it was there in menu not replacing the rightclick on sound icon
[13:20] <gulzar> ActionParsnip: :)
[13:20] <llutz> maverick_: command with output| less    or  ... |more
[13:20] <Ampelbein> maverick_: pipe the output through a program like 'more' or 'less'. i.e.: 'command  | less'
[13:20] <eunix> Good Morning everyone
[13:20] <Si2100> Hey
[13:21] <maverick_> llutz, Ampelbein: aah, thanks, i didn't quite know how to phrase it in google, hence asked
[13:21] <oCean> maverick_: to view the content of a file, you can also use it in the format  less /path/to/myfile
[13:21] <eunix> How many people are running 11.04 on their lappy?
[13:21] <maverick_> oCean: thank you
[13:21] <oCean> eunix: many
[13:22] <eunix> Ok
[13:22] <eunix> I have 11.04 on my 8560w but now I need to retrofit the COE stuff so that my Active key can work
[13:23] <eunix> I did not use the COE distro and then upgrade
[13:23] <eunix> Am I in for a world of pain?
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> eunix: what is COE?
[13:25] <eunix> sorry -
[13:26] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:26] <eunix> I think I am in the wrong channel - I have not used IRC in a while and am trying to be in my company IRC channel.
[13:27] <Castbound> yo, how are you ? upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 everything works fine but the fact that I get blank pages at Random places (for example I use nagios plugin in firefox), that stops working suddenly, or if I try to load system configuration. If I reboot it works but then it breaks. It's clearly a bug, have you heard about that?
[13:27] <BluesKaj> eunix, are they on the freenode server?
[13:28] <eunix> No.  It looks like the corporate server is not responding.
[13:28] <eunix> No problem - I am happy to hang out here for a while with my morning cup of coffee. :)
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> Castbound: what if you rename ~/.mozilla/firefox   is it ok then?
[13:30] <Castbound> ActionParsnip, it doens't only happen in firefox, if I load "system configuration" in the bottom of the start/shutdown menu, it happens the same
[13:31] <Castbound> i think it's related to the themes, but it happens in either the default or others- if I can change the theme then it fixes itself - but breakes later on
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> Castbound: I see
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> Castbound: is it ok as a fresh user?
[13:31] <Castbound> as in create a new user to see if that happens?
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> Castbound: yes
[13:32] <Castbound> I tried reset all custom conf to default by deleting the relevant folders
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> !away > _spt|afk
[13:33] <Castbound> referring to: m -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity
[13:33] <A_J> me
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> Castbound: there are configs in ~/.config that aren't just for apps
[13:35] <Castbound> ActionParsnip, I'll create a new user to test and see how that works - thanks for your help | out of curiosity  have you seen that issue before?
[13:37]  * drake01 thanks oCean for kicking out suzzyy
[13:38] <Chotaz> I'm having problems extracting a rar file. My friend has no problem extracting it on windows. I've redownloaded the file 3 times, still no luck. what else can I do?
[13:38] <Effex> I don
[13:38] <Effex> Don't think rar is natively supported by Ubuntu
[13:38] <yeats> !rar
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> Castbound: not myself, I always clean install so I don't get weird issues like that
[13:39] <Castbound> Chotaz, what's the error you are getting?
[13:39] <kanhiya> hello, all
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> Chotaz: install rar unrar p7zip-rar p7zip-full unp
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> Chotaz: then use unp to extract anything at cli
[13:39] <Castbound> ActionParsnip, yeah I should have done that, thanks
[13:40] <kanhiya> help me solve my bluetooth problem in ubuntu 11.10 m i am not able to send or receive files & using DUN profile in ubuntu 11.10 while in ubuntu 11.04 everything was fine
[13:40] <Chotaz> Castbound, "There was an error extracting the files."
[13:41] <A_J> ActionParsnip booting up again
[13:41] <kanhiya> also, error message permission denied appear
[13:41] <A_J> let's hope it works
[13:41] <Castbound> Chotaz, please check what ActionParsnip said above
[13:41] <kanhiya> error code 13
[13:42] <Chotaz> just unp "filename.ext" will do the trci
[13:42] <Chotaz> trick
[13:42] <Chotaz> i already had most of thos packages installed
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> unp is awesome
[13:43] <Chotaz> Awesome First Line Support is awesome! Thanks ActionParsnip  and Castbound
[13:44] <Chotaz> and unp sure did the trick =D
[13:44] <A_J> ActionParsnip how much time about does it take for seeing the installation screen. 4gb ram / intel atom 1.6Ghz
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> A_J: couple of minutes
[13:45] <A_J> hmm
[13:45] <kanhiya> i made a backup cd of all the updates that i have installed to install it on other pc's using remastersys , now is it possible to transfer all my settings like not to check for updates & repository that i  added should be there in the backup cd as well.
[13:45] <bullgard4> What parameter value should I substitute for »x«in '~$oggenc -b x test.wav' if test.wav has the parameters: signed 16 bit 48000 Hz, stereo?
[13:46] <llutz> bullgard4: desired target bitrate kb/s
[13:46]  * A_J drools : http://www.theitdepot.com/details-Intel+S5520HC+Server+Intel+Motherboard_C13P8680.html
[13:47] <bullgard4> llutz: I know the definition for »x«. But the definition which you sent does not answer my question.
[13:47] <Chotaz> Can anyone suggest me a good alternative to banshee, just for mp3 and flac files and that can use my keyboard media keys?
[13:47] <A_J> qmpp
[13:48] <llutz> bullgard4:" none of those you gave" better?
[13:48] <A_J> wait thats qmmp
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> Chotaz: deadbeef
[13:48] <A_J> ActionParsnip it got stuck again :*(
[13:48] <kanhiya> 1542 people are here & not able to solve my  bluetooth problem
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> A_J: on a black screen?
[13:49] <A_J> yes with some text
[13:49] <bullgard4> llutz: With due respect, I do not understand your answer.
[13:49] <A_J> cd drive is making noise
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> kanhiya: you can use aptoncd to make an offline CD repo. I don't use bluetooth, too slow
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> A_J: nomodeset will fix that, if its an nvidia gpu use:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[13:50] <llutz> bullgard4: "signed 16 bit 48000 Hz, stereo"  none of these parameters have anything to do with the bitrate you set with -b "x"
[13:50] <kanhiya> ActionParsnip: Thanks, but it is not working anymore in Ubuntu 11.10 on any pc that i have tried
[13:50] <A_J> ActionParsnip lol i don't reach the screen where i can get that option. I just boot it up, and it gets stuck. no installation option no nothing
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | A_J
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> kanhiya: what isn't working?
[13:51] <bullgard4> llutz: Ah, now I understand your message. --  I will again think about my question and if I asked nonsense. --  Thank you.
[13:51] <kanhiya> Community tell me any repositary for bluetooth
[13:51] <A_J> ActionParsnip it does not proceed till here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Boot-F6-Other.png :\
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> A_J: are you using a CD or USB?
[13:52] <A_J> cd ActionParsnip
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> A_J: did you burn the CD as slowly as possible?
[13:52] <A_J> yes 4x
[13:52] <kanhiya> ActionParsnip: Bluetooth devices are detected and added but neither able to send nor able to receive  files
[13:52] <LemonAid> Is it possible to manually mount a partition somewhere and not have it mount in /media ,by default, as well ?
[13:52] <A_J> ActionParsnip i have installed from this cd before on my netbook it worked
[13:54] <sweb> how can i get nginx user and group
[13:54] <sweb> in ubuntu
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> A_J: all I can suggest is make a new cd to test, the ram is healthy which is good
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> sweb: how do you mean "get"
[13:55] <kanhiya> community, whether to install security update on my pc , it is related with Linux Kernel & Once i updated kernel in the past  & was not able to boot :(
[13:56] <kanhiya> Now most of things are running fine
[13:56] <A_J_> ActionParsnip: should i try to boot windows
[13:56] <jobbe> ciao
[13:56] <jobbe> list!
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> A_J_: sure why not
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> !list | jobbe
[13:57] <Sidewinder1> ActionParsnip, He's gone. :D
[13:57] <truefx> aaabaam
[13:58] <kanhiya> security updates are well tested or not & I will stuck to LTS forever , if i like ubuntu 12.04 and will look for other distro or Windows again if i don't find it working for me
[13:58] <squaregoldfish> kanhiya: I'd go for the update. It won't uninstall the old kernel, and it's still accessible from the grub boot menu in case the new kernel doesn't work.
[13:59] <Sidewinder1> kanhiya, 12.04 has not been officially released and is still in development.
[13:59] <kanhiya> Why to release in every six month when something is not stable and well tested
[14:00] <kanhiya> Sidewinder1: I know that :), i am talking about 11.10
[14:00] <Sidewinder1> Just wanted to be sure that you knew.. :-)
[14:01] <Sidewinder1> 10.04, here.
[14:01] <kanhiya> Sidewinder1: 12.04 will be last Ubuntu distro i will try, if it worked for me, i will go for it, otherwise thumbs down to Ubuntu :(
[14:02] <kanhiya> Sidewinder1: I know but many things didn't work for me like wireless issues
[14:03] <kanhiya> Sidewinder1: Still it is better than Ubuntu 11.10
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> kanhiya: it is tested and is stable
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> kanhiya: maybe you are confusing not liking the new gnome with not liking ubuntu
[14:04] <kanhiya> ActionParsnip: WHy not release only 1 version in a year
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> kanhiya: not sure, ask canonical
[14:04] <Sidewinder1> kandinski, Yes, sometimes a bit of "tweaking" is in order. I'm fortunate that my machine is rather old and almost everything 'just works'.
[14:04] <kanhiya> ActionParsnip: How to forward request to Canonical
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> kanhiya: the opposite is also applicable, why not more a year...
[14:05] <kanhiya> They should conduct a survey
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> kanhiya: they could survey everything, it'd slow development down
[14:07] <Math^> hello, I was playing a bit with recordmydesktop, and it's capturing great, with sound from my mic, and from my desktop... but the sound is very soft, how can I fix this?
[14:07] <diverdude> Math^: soft???
[14:07] <Math^> diverdude: or low? I'm not english sorry
[14:08] <Math^> I got all the slides in mixer to the top, but it's recording very low sound
[14:08] <yeats> Math^: you've experimented with levels in Sound Settings?
[14:08] <alsoeric> any ideas on how I can improve kbd and display responsiveness when the disk is running
[14:08] <Math^> yes, I tried to pull everything up
[14:09] <kanhiya> all, i mean to say that  Dashing is not always good, people need stable system not to mess with problems , it's job of developers that they update packages carefully  & make sure that new is better than old and stable, if something  is working fine than no need to update
[14:09] <yeats> Math^: do you have access to another mic (maybe a USB headset) that you could try as a comparison point?
[14:09] <Math^> yeats: no :(
[14:09] <alsoeric> Math^, what is your mic brand, type etc?
[14:09] <sagaci> hi, is there an IRC channel for askubuntu... I'm having trouble logging in using an openid
[14:10] <Math^> well it's not my mic I guess... cos it works perfect in skype
[14:10] <squaregoldfish> kanhiya: I'd agree, apart from the regular security updates.
[14:10] <yeats> Math^: I found that my analog mic was not loud enough but that a USB headset was loud and crystal clear
[14:10] <Math^> yeats: yes, but also sound from mix is low
[14:10] <Math^> both from mic and mix
[14:10] <kanhiya> squaregoldfish: Yes, only this exception
[14:10] <ssn> hi guys
[14:10] <alsoeric> mic loudness is really subjective
[14:11] <ssn> is there a way to access my deja-dup backup on u1 on different linux distribution (in my case gentoo)?
[14:11] <TImewarper> hey
[14:11] <Math^> hmm maybe I should try jack instead? but I'm not sure how to do this
[14:11] <alsoeric> I'been working with mics and speech recognition for years
[14:11] <TImewarper> where can i get the shred utility from?
[14:12] <alsoeric> all mics sound different but most work just fine
[14:12] <yeats> Math^: http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/rug/p1_2c.php - in case you haven't seen it
[14:12] <canterer> who use java language?
[14:12] <Math^> yeats: ye, I've been there
[14:12] <yeats> Math^: ok ;-)
[14:13] <oCean> canterer: the people in ##java do
[14:13] <canterer> oCean, I cannot check in that channel
[14:13] <yeats> TImewarper: it's installed by default, I believe
[14:14] <TImewarper> yeats, and what about the frandom
[14:14] <oCean> !register | canterer you have to register first
[14:15] <yeats> TImewarper: I don't know what "the frandom" is
[14:15] <canterer> need the invitation
[14:15] <TImewarper> yeats, another tool like urandom
[14:15] <oCean> canterer: no, you need to register, ask in #freenode for support
[14:15] <canterer> ubottu, I have register
[14:15] <yeats> TImewarper: sorry - don't know
[14:17] <mamece2> i did two bootable usb sticks with universal usb creator .. and i get this message BOOT ERROR. help anyone?
[14:17] <A_J> ActionParsnip trying from usb now
[14:17] <user82> took me 20 minutes to remove the ashes of a kernel panic caused by ati drivers... :p
[14:17] <A_J> will update it i guess to 11.04 later
[14:17] <diverdude> Hello. Is Dyalog APL a functional programming language like ML and
[14:17] <diverdude> 	    F#?
[14:17] <soreau> canterer: You are trying to join the wrong channel
[14:17] <happygolucky> Math^: i alway use alsamixer to raise the volume
[14:17] <A_J> it's 10.04 now
[14:17] <soreau> canterer: Its ##java, not #java
[14:18] <Math^> happyface: ye, but it's all turned up
[14:18] <Math^> happyface: think it's something in recordmydesktop, as my sound works just fine, and skype calls are perfect also
[14:19] <A_J> !spam | A_J
[14:19] <oCean> soreau: #java will forward to ##java, he needs to register and identify
[14:20] <soreau> oCean: Hm, I guess it says invite only if you are already in ##java
[14:20] <soreau> strange..
[14:23] <A_J_> how do i clean a external cd drive ?
[14:23] <A_J_> err
[14:23] <A_J_> sorry
[14:23] <A_J_> can some1 help me partition a hdd during installation
[14:24] <soreau> A_J_: Sure, what do you need to know?
[14:24] <bekks> A_J_: What do you mean by "clean an external cd drive"?
[14:24] <A_J_> wrong section
[14:25] <A_J_> soreau: want a 30gb partition
[14:25] <FerIzDems> hi all
[14:25] <A_J_> for ubuntu
[14:25] <soreau> ! enter | A_J_
[14:25] <A_J_> sorry about that
[14:25] <A_J_> yes 30gb boot partition for ubuntu
[14:26] <soreau> A_J_: Is that all?
[14:26] <A_J_> i have gone in advanced partition
[14:26] <FerIzDems> hi, could you tell me if it is possible to use empathy for google talk, with cam and talk support??
[14:26] <bekks> A_J_: 30GB for /boot is a waste of space, better use 30GB for /
[14:26] <A_J_> i mean for the boot partition bekks
[14:26] <me-1> hi...how can connect to internet ..http://paste.ubuntu.com/751438/
[14:26] <A_J_> the primary one, where the os will be installed
[14:26] <soreau> A_J_: Ok, just create a 30GB partition, tell it to format it as ext4 and mount point as /
[14:27] <soreau> A_J_: You dont need separate boot or home unless you have a good reason
[14:28] <mamece2> i did two bootable usb sticks with universal usb creator .. and i get this message BOOT ERROR and a blinkin cursor. help anyone?
[14:28] <Gentoo64> try it with unetbootin maybe
[14:28] <Gentoo64> might not make a difference thoiugh
[14:29] <happygolucky> me-1: did you check the lights on your modem
[14:29] <A_J_> done thank you soreau
[14:29] <soreau> A_J_: / is the mount point for the root partition
[14:29] <soreau> A_J_: Not called boot ;)
[14:30] <me-1> happygolucky,  no the connection is fine but I am on windows 7 now how can I make connection on ubuntu
[14:30] <A_J_> okie i will remember that
[14:31] <A_J_> soreau: can you also tell me in 11.10, except using genome classic any other way to get ubuntu classic
[14:31] <soreau> A_J_: I think you have to install something to get classic..
[14:31] <soreau> ! classic
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> it's gnome, like the guys with pointy hats and fishing rods, not genome
[14:31] <xangua> A_J if you mean gnome2 , is no longer maintained
[14:31] <orazio> somebody tried UCK to remaster ubuntu?
[14:31] <soreau> ! notunity
[14:31] <A_J_> i knw but genome 3 has ugly black and grey bars
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> A_J_: if you like the Gnome2 look and feel I suggest you install XFCE and use that
[14:32] <A_J_> XFCE okie
[14:32] <A_J_> ActionParsnip: looks like the cd was bad
[14:32] <A_J_> i did a 10.04 usb boot, will update now
[14:33] <soreau> A_J_: Yea, might even give xubuntu live session a try
[14:33] <me-1> how can connect to internet using ubuntu ..with windows setteings are ..http://paste.ubuntu.com/751438/
[14:33] <A_J_> soreau: is there a guide to use unity
[14:33] <A_J_> unity*
[14:33] <soreau> A_J_: I have no idea. AFAIK, What you see is what you get (yes, it sucks as bad as it looks)
[14:34] <soreau> and performance is crap too
[14:34] <A_J_> lol so you agree it sucks
[14:34] <Zarros> hi, I connected to wifi at home, but its really slow, and I have 10mbps =/
[14:34] <soreau> definitely
[14:34] <A_J_> i loved classic
[14:34] <A_J_> ActionParsnip: what do you think
[14:34] <soreau> A_J_: If ActionParsnip suggests trying xfce, I further that by suggesting you try xubuntu
[14:35] <mamece2> i did two bootable usb sticks with universal usb creator .. and i get this message BOOT ERROR and a blinkin cursor. help anyone?
[14:35] <yeats> A_J_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/36274/tips-and-tricks-for-unity
[14:35] <A_J_> god damn my trackpad has stopped working
[14:36] <yeats> A_J_: that's apparently the most complete documentation source available
[14:37] <A_J_> ok ty
[14:37] <A_J_> anyone can tell me how to fix my trackpad
[14:38] <A_J_> think it's software
[14:39] <A_J_> soreau:
[14:39] <A_J_> ActionParsnip:
[14:39] <yeats> A_J_: what model computer? HP?
[14:40] <A_J_> asus eee pc 1101x
[14:40] <yeats> is it a "clickpad" with virtual buttons?
[14:40] <A_J_> not it has physical buttons
[14:40] <yeats> A_J_: what's not working?
[14:40] <A_J_> no clickpad
[14:40] <A_J_> the mouse
[14:40] <A_J_> trackpad
[14:41] <mamece2> i did two bootable usb sticks with universal usb creator .. and i get this message BOOT ERROR and a blinkin cursor. help anyone?
[14:41] <A_J_> it's been happening from today morning
[14:41] <soreau> A_J_: In the live session ?
[14:41] <sharpK> is there something that I have to input before smbtree in the terminal
[14:41] <sharpK> cause it just asks me for a pass
[14:41] <sharpK> and then does nothing
[14:41] <A_J_> yes i'm on that pc right now
[14:41] <FerIzDems> hi, how can I replace pulseAudio with Alsa Driver in 11.10???
[14:42] <lunitik> FerIzDems, pulseaudio already uses alsa... you mean you want to drop pulseaudio? do you know the purpose of pulseaudio?
[14:42] <soreau> ! pulseaudio | FerIzDems
[14:43] <A_J_> soreau: any idea what it can be
[14:43] <soreau> A_J_: Is this in the live session or what?
[14:43] <A_J_> yes it is
[14:43] <A_J_> i'm on that pc right now
[14:43] <soreau> ! who | A_J_
[14:43] <FerIzDems> i've noob with sound in linux; thanks for the info! :)
[14:44] <yeats> !sound
[14:44] <A_J_> soreau: it's a live session i'm on the pc right now
[14:44] <FerIzDems> ok thanks!
[14:44] <soreau> A_J_: If its installing, just let it finish and try booting it. If it happens in the real session, then you can try and diagnose it
[14:45] <kcw45> has anyone else using a combination of oneiric and open source ati drivers experienced any graphical issues on boot?  for me a lot of times, there will be artifacts (not too concerned) before lightdm shows, and occasionally there is a quick flash of a 'screenshot' from a previous session (very concerned).  the card is rv770 (radeon hd 4850)
[14:45] <A_J_> oh not that pc soreau , an other one
[14:45] <lunitik> FerIzDems, ALSA is the in-kernel subsystem for sound, pulseaudio adds many things on top of that subsystem, including software mixing and real time audio etc
[14:45] <mamece2> i did two bootable usb sticks with universal usb creator .. and i get this message BOOT ERROR and a blinkin cursor. help anyone?
[14:45] <soreau> A_J_: Is the problem occurring in a live session or not?
[14:45] <A_J_> please define live session soreau
[14:46] <mamece2> !español
[14:46] <lunitik> A_J_, have you installed the system, or did you boot into the USB stick/CD
[14:46] <soreau> A_J_: Live session is where you boot live (meaning the linux OS running in system memory) from a live boot medium like cd or usb stick
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> !es
[14:46] <mamece2> soreau: lunitik i want to boot from a live usb
[14:46] <ePax> Is this the crontab to run fil at 23:59:59 = 59 23 * * * sleep 59; sh whatever.sh
[14:46] <lunitik> mamece2, does your BIOS support booting from USB?
[14:47] <A_J_> ooh this probelm is happening on a pc, i have installed 4 weeks back. it installed on hard drive of my netbook, where i am currently downloading
[14:47] <mamece2> soreau: lunitik i checked the MD5 and its everything ok, i also did a puppy live usb
[14:47] <soreau> mamece2: Live cd works but no usb does?
[14:47] <A_J_> i mean typing*
[14:47] <mamece2> soreau: lunitik yes it does, i change the options to first check the usb port to boot. i dont have a CD, just usb sticks
[14:48] <lunitik> mamece2, what is the error you are seeing when it tries to boot from it?
[14:48] <soreau> mamece2: Did you try different usb ports?
[14:48] <mamece2> soreau: yes
[14:48] <mamece2> lunitik: just boot error and the blinking cursor
[14:48] <soreau> mamece2: How did you say you created the usb stick?
[14:48] <lunitik> A_J_, I just got here, what exactly is your problem?
[14:49] <mamece2> soreau: i did it with startup disk creator, unetbootin and universal usb creator
[14:49] <A_J_> netbook trackpad not workin lunitik
[14:50] <soreau> mamece2: Do you happen to have any other usb sticks to try?
[14:50] <lunitik> A_J_, did you install anything like xorg-xserver-input-synaptics ?
[14:50] <A_J_> no, nothing
[14:50] <mamece2> soreau:  i have tried with two
[14:50] <soreau> lunitik: Apparently it used to work, then something happened and it quit
[14:50] <soreau> A_J_: What did you do that broke it?
[14:51] <lunitik> A_J_, then you'll need to do that... 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics gpointing-device-settings'
[14:51] <soreau> mamece2: When does the error happen exactly, after you load ubuntu or before it even tries to load the usb medium at all?
[14:51] <A_J_> actually soreau booted it up after 4 or so days and then it works on bootup then stops soon
[14:52] <soreau> A_J_: Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for messages/errors and possibly $HOME/.xsession-errors
[14:52] <mamece2> soreau: i put the usb stick in, and turn on the PC, after the intel logo it just stay in "boot error"
[14:53] <lunitik> mamece2, did you ever share how you created the USB stick?
[14:53] <soreau> mamece2: I am going to guess that the boot medium you created is fine but your bios is choking when it tries to boot it for some reason. Do you have another computer you can try booting it on?
[14:53] <soreau> lunitik: Yes he did
[14:53] <A_J_> lunitik: latest version installed
[14:53] <mamece2> i can try in this pc
[14:54] <lunitik> A_J_, try running gpointing-device-settings then?
[14:55] <mamece2> lunitik: i created the usb stick formating it with FAT32 and then used universal usb creator, that was the last time i did it. before that i used unetbootin and startup creator. i am using a iso ive dl'ed . i have ubuntu and puppy, i have tried every combination
[14:55] <A_J_> okie lunitik it'd open
[14:56] <A_J_> looks like it was disabled
[14:56] <A_J_> thanks lunitik
[14:57] <A_J_> and ty also soreau
[14:59] <Icehawk78> I'm running Oneiric on my laptop and the current discharge rate is 36.0 W, while most sources online appear to be indicating that I should actually be using roughly 1/3rd that - this is with nothing but putty and Chromium running. Any recommendations?
[15:01] <soreau> Icehawk78: How are you arriving at the value of 36 watts?
[15:01] <soreau> Usually it's value/time anyway
[15:02] <Icehawk78> soreau: grep rate /proc/acpi/battery/BAT2/state
[15:02] <Icehawk78> present rate: 35960 mW
[15:02] <soreau> Icehawk78: Maybe you have an abusive driver loaded. What gpu and driver for it are you using?
[15:02] <lunitik> Icehawk78, the Linux kernel had power management issues for a while, you might be getting hit with those... what is kernel version? there are new patches which fix it, but idk if they're in the default kernel yet
[15:03] <soreau> lunitik: I think it's safe to assume it's the default 11.10 kernel version
[15:03] <soreau> 3.0.x I believe
[15:03] <Icehawk78> lunitik: Correct, it's 3.something, I noticed it upgraded a week or so ago.
[15:04] <lunitik> Then it probably isn't there, because the patches were released after Oneiric was released... can maybe grab the precise kernel and see if it does any better?
[15:05] <lunitik> (oneiric is 3.0.x, precise is going with 3.2.x)
[15:05] <Icehawk78> soreau: GPU is a switchable graphics card, I had issues with the fglrx drivers before and removed them completely, and am now just using the default drivers which (I think) should be using the integrated card
[15:05] <soreau> Icehawk78: Can you show the output of 'lspci|grep VGA' and 'glxinfo|grep renderer'?
[15:06] <alsoeric> how do you get the background picture to keep a portrait oriented picture in portrait and not flip it to landscape?
[15:06] <taros> hi guys
[15:07] <Icehawk78> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[15:07] <Icehawk78> 01:00.0 VGA Compatible Controller: ATI Technologies Inc NI Seymour [AMD Radeon HD 6470M]
[15:08] <Deltatash> Hi I was wondering if anyone could give me a hand, I am using Ubuntu 10.4 LTS
[15:08] <Icehawk78> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Sandybridge Mobile
[15:08] <fahad222> hello
[15:08] <fahad222> i need help
[15:08] <soreau> Deltatash: No one can help you if you don't ask your question
[15:08] <Deltatash> I am having problems connecting to a D-Link DGS-1216T Switch with ubuntu
[15:08] <lunitik> Deltatash, if you tell us your actual issue, we may be able to
[15:08] <soreau> Icehawk78: Ok so you are using the intel gpu currently, which should be the better option for low power consumption. What makes you think that it's using too much power?
[15:09] <fahad222> hey
[15:09] <fahad222> i need help
[15:09] <Deltatash> With windows I can connect np but I hook my Ubuntu laptop up with the ethernet wire and my internet icon appears saying connecting, but then it soon says "disconected" so I can not log into my switch using linux :s as it doesnt stay connected
[15:09] <sharpK> where would I find the /etc/gdm/Init/Default file
[15:09] <sharpK> on 11.10?
[15:09] <jglauche_> I have a question.. can I select a different version (here: the latest LTS) in wubi?
[15:09] <fahad222> i need midia
[15:09] <Deltatash> any ideas ?
[15:09] <xangua> oneiric doesn't use gdm sharpK
[15:09] <fahad222> i use back tarack 4
[15:09] <fahad222> i new at world linux
[15:09] <sharpK> xangua: is there an equivalent?
[15:09] <xangua> it uses light dm sharpK
[15:09] <sharpK> so that I can issue certain commands before hte login screen?
[15:09] <xangua> !backtrack | fahad222
[15:10] <Deltatash> no one here have any experience with using Ubuntu to log into Switches and make changes ?
[15:10] <fahad222> thnx all
[15:10] <soreau> Icehawk78: That isn't to say the gpu is the only chip using power.. all drivers for each device should be scrutinized, though gpu typically uses a considerable amount of power compared to other chips/devices
[15:11] <sharpK> xangua: what would be the 11.10 way of issuing commands before the login screen?
[15:11] <Icehawk78> soreau: The fan doesn't appear to ever turn off, and the battery life is exceptionally lower than when I was running Windows, which doesn't quite seem right to me.
[15:11] <xangua> sharpK: i'll care untill i switch from lucid :P sorry
[15:12] <sharpK> It's okay, think I found it on the help.ubunutu.com, thanks though
[15:12] <soreau> Icehawk78: Well you could possibly try disabling the intel gpu or switching to the radeon one to see if it's any better with the radeon driver
[15:13] <Icehawk78> soreau: I saw someone else on the Ubuntu forums recommending powertop, which I just installed - I'm not entirely certain if this is right, but there's an entry saying "Audio codec hwC0D3: Intel" has 100% usage (everything else shows ## ms/s for that column)
[15:13] <diverdude> Hello. Is Dyalog APL a functional programming language like ML and F#?
[15:13] <Phr3d13> Deltatash: when you say switch, do you mean router?
[15:14] <soreau> Icehawk78: Ok, that seems to be a smoking gun. Try unloading the audio module completely if possible, to see if it makes a difference
[15:14] <fahad222> how can i join a channel
[15:14] <soreau> Icehawk78: lsmod will tell you what modules are loaded, grep for snd or something to see audio modules
[15:15] <soreau> fahad222: /j #channel
[15:15] <Phr3d13> Use /j #channel
[15:15] <Icehawk78> soreau: Any chance you could either walk me through that or point me in the direction of something which could tell me what to do? I'm not especially familiar with doing anything with drivers in linux.
[15:16] <soreau> Icehawk78: Ok, pastebin the output of 'lsmod' to pastebin.com
[15:16] <Icehawk78> lsmod or lsmod | grep snd
[15:18] <Icehawk78> soreau: http://pastebin.com/727X0sNW
[15:20] <tiox> I found a way to make a desktop launcher that launches the desktop launcher edit menu, if anyone using Gnome 3 is interested.
[15:20] <soreau> Icehawk78: Ok, let's assume for a moment that the codec modules are problematic. Try unloading them with 'sudo rmmod snd_hda_codec_hdmi snd_hda_codec_realtek'
[15:21] <hot2trot> where is the directory that contains all the .desktop files?
[15:22] <tiox> First go to a term, and type gnome-desktop-item-edit --create-new ~/Desktop, then make a shortcut with the command sh -c "cd /usr/bin && ./gnome-desktop-item-edit --create-new ~/Desktop"
[15:22] <prodigel> hi all. Does anyone know how to install vga_switcheroo on ubuntu? I've googled for it, and excepting kernel compiling couldn't find an easier way. Thanks
[15:22] <tiox> hot2trot: /home/$HOME/Desktop
[15:23] <tiox> Assuming there is a separate home, lol
[15:23] <tiox> Actually, nevermind how silly.
[15:23] <hot2trot> tiox: I mean there is some directory that contains the settings for the various window managers I have installed, like one for unity, one for gnome, etc
[15:23] <tiox> It's the same whether /home is a partition or not, the /home folder still exists.
[15:24] <tiox> OOoh.
[15:24] <hot2trot> tiox: errr... not settings, but they tell ubuntu to have them in the login screen
[15:24] <soreau> Icehawk78: rmmod is roughly the equivalent of modprobe -r. They both unload a module, which means the kernel code they contain will no longer be used. Modules (drivers) almost always talk directly to the hardware so it could mean the difference between using a lot of power to do stuff or not
[15:24] <tiox> You mean the login config files?
[15:24] <hot2trot> tiox: I belive so
[15:24] <tiox> Lemme see if I remember this...
[15:25] <tiox> /usr/share/xsessions and /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions I believe.
[15:25] <hot2trot> tiox: thank you very much, it's hard to google
[15:25] <tiox> But BE CAREFUL editing them.
[15:25] <tiox> i mean, _extreme) caution.
[15:26] <tiox> _extreme_*
[15:26] <phrostbite> I am thinking about dual booting windows 7 and ubuntu. I am worried about the fact that my laptop is an HP which means that i already have two extra partitons labeled "HP_Recovery" and "HP_Tools". Will adding another os interfere with those?
[15:26] <tiox> If you screw up, there might be no turning back, and you'll have to go to CD and copy those special .desktop files into the folders on your main file system.
[15:26] <lnxslck> phrostbite, just remove that crap
[15:27] <lnxslck> phrostbite, install the same windows 7 version, aplly your key and your done
[15:27] <phrostbite> lnxslck, Doesn't it serve a purpose though
[15:27] <tiox> lnxslck: Unacceptable support behavior.
[15:27] <tiox> But most likely not.
[15:27] <lnxslck> phrostbite, you can get all the drivers you need for your laptop from the hp site
[15:27] <teddie> phrostbite, is it really so easy to activate nowadays?
[15:28] <lnxslck> phrostbite, on the other parttion install ubuntu
[15:28] <lnxslck> phrostbite, installing ubuntu along with windows 7 is extremelly easy
[15:28] <phrostbite> so then in theory I could just delete those partitions and install ubuntu in the empty space?
[15:28] <lnxslck> phrostbite, remove all partitions
[15:28] <lnxslck> phrostbite, make 2 partitions empty not formatted
[15:28] <lnxslck> phrostbite, on one partition you install windows 7
[15:29] <teddie> why not reduce the size of your windows partition in windows?
[15:29] <lnxslck> phrostbite, on the other ubuntu
[15:29] <teddie> then install ubuntu in the new free space
[15:29] <phrostbite> I don't want to reinstall windows though lol.
[15:29] <lnxslck> phrostbite, its very easy really, you don't need half of the things that come installed by default by hp
[15:29] <kamilsheiss> karachan.org/b
[15:30] <lnxslck> phrostbite, doing like i told you will get you a cleaner and faster operating system
[15:30] <phrostbite> I have only used windows 7 for about two months. I used ubuntu on my old laptop for 3 years. So I am a newb when it comes to win7 so teddie i didn;t know you could resize
[15:30] <Icehawk78> soreau: Sorry for the delay. rmmod gave errors on both modules saying that they were in use
[15:30] <phrostbite> lnxslck, That makes sense. I don't have anything super special that I need to back up. all my pictures and such will fit in my dropbox
[15:30] <tiox> teddie: Just faffing off when saying this really, but are the tools accessible from compmgmt.msc?
[15:30] <ZekeS> phrostbite: realistically, the main obstacles to shrinking the windows partition will be your page file and stuff like the windows search file
[15:31] <lnxslck> phrostbite, you can, the thing is, you'll get stuck with all the trash hp installs by default making your laptop slower
[15:31] <phrostbite> Hmm now to locate a win7 disc since I don;t have one
[15:31] <tiox> That use to be a go-to command I did a bunch to monitor My machine and look at all sorts of neat stuff.
[15:31] <teddie> tiox, yes.. or diskmgmt.msc to go directly to it
[15:31] <lnxslck> phrostbite, just download it from any site, you'll be apllying a legit key so you're ok
[15:32] <ZekeS> If you do want to shrink it, you'll want to disable as much stuff like that as you can while you're doing the resize (yes, windows will run w/o a page file - and if you set up a separate swap partition when you install linux, you can use swapfs in windows to use it as the page file location)
[15:32] <soreau> Icehawk78: Ok, so the next step would be to temporarily blacklist them, or not have them load at boot time. In order to do this, we can rely on the fact that a module wont be loaded with an invalid parameter set. As a kernel argument, add module_name.dontloadme=1 and boot it. The module should not be loaded and you can test the effect
[15:32] <tiox> lnxslck: Bad advice as He'll google it, and somehow end up with a copy full of malware. :P
[15:33] <tiox> But still, some good sleuthing with Google and you can find just about anything you can possibly download.
[15:34] <phrostbite> I ended up finding this site that has links to download the isos. just need to make sure I have the correct one for my key http://techpp.com/2009/11/11/download-windows-7-iso-official-direct-download-links/
[15:34] <lnxslck> tiox, depend's where he downloads it, microsoft itsellf told many times that they don't mind if you install a pirate copy and legit it
[15:34] <lnxslck> phrostbite, as long as you activate with a legit key you'll be fine
[15:36] <tiox> lnxslck: I was partially joking, but it is a topic of serious discussion. If He can, He should find an RTM or other untampered copy.
[15:36] <tiox> But we shouldn't be discussing pirated stuff anyway.
[15:36] <lnxslck> tiox, but yes, there's a lot of windows copies full of badware
[15:37] <lnxslck> tiox, the thing is, installing a stripped down windows copy (pirate or not) will get you a cleaner operating system
[15:37] <yeats> !ot | phrostbite lnxslck tiox
[15:37]  * tiox wonders if this is the right command...
[15:37] <tiox> Oh, right.
[15:37] <tiox> I was gonna do that yeats, lol
[15:38] <tiox> Except it was gonna be the pirate discussion one, but nevermind.
[15:38] <yeats> tiox: ;-)
[15:38] <yeats> !illegal
[15:39] <Phrosty> Woops xchat freaked out
[15:41] <Icehawk78> soreau: Disabled both kernel modules (had to try twice due to a typo) and neither is showing up in lsmod, but powrtop still displays the audio codec as using 100%
[15:42] <Icehawk78> However, the power consumption rate is down to 19850 mW
[15:42] <soreau> Icehawk78: Nice
[15:43] <soreau> Icehawk78: Now that you understand how to do this with modules, you can continue with your own tests
[15:43] <soreau> Icehawk78: preliminary observation, that's nearly half of what it was using before
[15:44] <xsaidx> hello guys
[15:44] <teddie> hello
[15:44] <xsaidx>  icant add malin ppa in natty any idea why
[15:45] <teddie> please share the error
[15:45] <Icehawk78> soreau: How much damage am I liable to do by turning off a kernel module, or is it entirely reversible by removing the kernel_name.dontuseme=1 from the grub menu entry?
[15:45] <xsaidx> i get not found when i run the update
[15:45] <teddie> there's your problem, perhaps your distribution/version of ubuntu is not supported
[15:46] <soreau> Icehawk78: It is entirely reversible. It should not do any damage whatsoever
[15:46] <Timewarper> !find shred
[15:46] <Icehawk78> soreau: Okay, thanks for your help!
[15:47] <soreau> Icehawk78: If however you find that you want to never load a module again, the proper way to disable it would be by blacklisting it
[15:47] <soreau> ! blacklist | Icehawk78
[15:47] <xsaidx> teddie: im om natty yeh i dount it
[15:47] <soreau> Icehawk78: the dontloadme trick is just a hack using a nonexistent module parameter to confuse it into not loading the module
[15:48] <teddie> xsaidx, is natty listed if you browse the ppa in your browser
[15:48] <xsaidx> teddie: the ppa its in lp
[15:48] <oCean> xsaidx: PPA's are not-supported 3rd party repositories. You need to contact the PPA maintainers for support
[15:49] <mamece2> im back again to tell you is not working, i cant boot from usb
[15:49] <xsaidx> oCean: okay thanks
[15:49] <soreau> Icehawk78: You could use funkytime=1 or thisparamdoesntexist=1 and it would work. This is certainly not a proper way to blacklist a module by any means ;)
[15:49] <Icehawk78> soreau: Gotcha, so use that to figure out what to disable, and then blacklist it once I'm certain I don't want/need that?
[15:49] <soreau> Icehawk78: Right
[15:49] <Icehawk78> soreau: Makes sense. Thanks again!
[15:49] <peepsalot> what is the gui app for installing a deb file directly?  the one that existed before software center?
[15:49] <soreau> Icehawk78: You're very welcome ;-)
[15:49] <teddie> synaptic
[15:49] <somsip>  /quit
[15:49] <dr_willis> peepsalot:  or gdebi
[15:50] <peepsalot> dr_willis, ah i think that's the one  i'm thinking of
[15:50] <ghost714> looking for pdf reader with annotations, any suggestions?
[15:50] <mamece2> lol i have a problem NOBODY in the internet can solve.. linux fails again...
[15:50] <dr_willis> mamece2:  i dont see the logic in that statement..
[15:51] <soreau> mamece2: Did you try booting the usb stick on another machine?
[15:51] <mamece2> soreau: yes on 3 of them
[15:51] <soreau> mamece2: Also yes, clearly that logic is flawed.
[15:51] <dr_willis> i have definatly had some machines not like some usb sticks.. that did boot in other machines.
[15:51] <bekks> mamece2: Is your computer able to boot from usb at all?
[15:51] <mamece2> dr_willis: like my problem its got no logic
[15:51] <mamece2> bekks:  yes it is..
[15:52] <soreau> mamece2: That's like saying 'my stomach hurts which means pizza is poisonous!'
[15:52] <dr_willis> Vendor bios differances and quirks.. is the logic i imagine.
[15:52] <bekks> mamece2: Do you suspect that or did you already tried that?
[15:52] <mamece2> OMG i should make a paste bin with all the tale..
[15:52] <dr_willis> mamece2:  put it on the forums. or askubuntu.com
[15:52] <dr_willis> or both.
[15:52] <peepsalot> hmm, no gdebi is just running on the command line for me.  it didn't look like synaptic either.  it was just a small window with just an install button and some description of the package
[15:52] <ed__> hi how can I install from bzr branch ? I am would like to install this onse : lp:~wwwjfy/notify-osd/dual-monitor-fix
[15:52] <mamece2> bekks: believe i am trying to solve this the last 3 days
[15:52] <dr_willis> peepsalot:  it has a cli and gui version
[15:52] <soreau> mamece2: Yea, it might be time to escalate your issue to the forums
[15:52] <dr_willis> peepsalot:  thats gedbi's x interface...
[15:53] <dr_willis> gedbi<tab>
[15:53] <mamece2> dr_willis: theres a LOT of threads about boot error problem, no body has an answer. i have 2 days searching in forums, and 1 in iRC chats
[15:53] <dr_willis> i think its gdebi-gtk foo.deb
[15:53] <soreau> mamece2: Did you get identical error messages on all the machines you tried to load it?
[15:54] <dr_willis> I tend to just set up a grub2 flash drive to boot iso files these days.
[15:54] <mamece2> soreau:  yes
[15:54] <dr_willis> or i just dd the 11.10 iso image to flash :)
[15:54] <peepsalot> dr_willis, ah ok, it's gdebi-gtk
[15:54] <soreau> dr_willis: Can you boot an iso from a hard disk this way?
[15:54] <dr_willis> peepsalot:  :) the power of gdebi
[15:54] <dr_willis> soreau:  with grub2 you can boot an iso from a hd.. and i THINK you can dd an iso to the first partiuton on a hd. but that would be a little odd.
[15:55] <peepsalot> dr_willis, it shows a bit more info than software center, like the files in the package.  though it doesn't show dependency info, that's what I was hoping for
[15:55] <LABcrab> Hey peeps!  Can i use my TV Tuner card with Totem?  i'd download VLC, but i don't have an unlimited Internet plan.
[15:55] <dr_willis> peepsalot:  never noticed. I use gdebi because it pulls in needed deps. :)
[15:55] <dr_willis> !info vlc
[15:55] <soreau> mamece2: ISTR having a bit of trouble the first time I created a bootable usb stick but after trying some other method (that escapes me at the moment) I got it to work
[15:55] <peepsalot> dr_willis, yeahi wanted to view them but not install the package
[15:56] <dr_willis> 1.3 mb?  or is that 13mb.
[15:56] <LABcrab> dr_willis: VLC downloads a boatload of extra codecs!
[15:56] <bekks> mamece2: I know that you are trying to solve that for days - but you didnt answer my question.
[15:56] <xangua> yeah, vlc codecs LABcrab ....
[15:56] <LABcrab> It has to be under 50 MB or i'm not downloading!  Also: can Totem watch TV?
[15:57] <LABcrab> Aka. convert VHS to digital?
[15:57] <mamece2> bekks: yes i ve tryed in others pcs
[15:57] <mamece2> tried*
[15:57] <dr_willis> err.. last  i lookee vlc included all the codecs it needed built in. :)
[15:57] <mamece2> guess i'll live in this chat for a long time..
[15:58] <dr_willis> im not sure how 'watch tv' implies. 'convert vhs to digital' You mean you have a vcr plugged into a tv tuner card?
[15:58] <LABcrab> dr_willis: Yes, and it works sweet with VLC in Windows.  i had to grab extra drivers, however.
[15:58] <dr_willis> I got a $14 converter box that records my video outs to a sd card. :)  handy for the wife and her home movie collection.
[15:58] <LABcrab> dr_willis: USA?
[15:58] <bennygtr34> Hi guys, I know this is the wrong ple
[15:59] <Sidewinder1> LABcrab, I use Kaffeine for my Hauppague HVR-950Q, (actually an ext. USB tuner), to watch the "idiot-box", and it works fine..
[15:59] <mamece2> i cant boot from a live usb, i got the boot error message in the first screen, can somebody help me?
[15:59] <haie> HI! I have a Broadcom 4313gn. Running Ubuntu 11.10 and I have super bad signal strength in ubuntu. What can I do? ASFAIK I am running broadcom drivers
[16:00] <bennygtr34> oops.. sorry.. again Hi I know this is the wrong place but i'm hoping some of this stuff is not unique to one linux distro. how do i put some songs on an iphone through linux? i'm using fedora 16 at the minute but just downloading the ubuntu and mint installers
[16:00] <LABcrab> Sidewinder1: 1) why an "idiot box"?  i'll start with Jump5 tapes and move on to movies later.  and 2) Kaffeine is KDE, eh?  That would download a boatload of KDE files.  No thanks.
[16:00] <LABcrab> !shipit
[16:00] <LABcrab> RIP Shipit!
[16:00] <LiquidSilver> quit
[16:00]  * teddie only used shipit for the stickers :[
[16:01] <dr_willis> LABcrab:  yep. $14 from qvc.com - its not best quality.. but hay.. for $14 what do ya expect
[16:01] <bennygtr34> does anyone use their iphone with linux?
[16:01] <LABcrab> Stickers fell off teddie.  But it was still nice.
[16:01] <LABcrab> dr_willis: i don't know.  As long as i can read the text "Emergency button" on the Jump5 but, it's good.
[16:01] <LABcrab> *Jump5 bus
[16:02] <Sidewinder1> LABcrab, Idiot-box = Old fashioned term for television; and, yes Kaffeine is KDE and somewhat "heavy" in the download..
[16:02] <teddie> plus, by the time the discs arrived.. a new version of ubuntu waso ut
[16:02] <sweb> i have a problem with compile Kerberos libraries not found.  i install all kerberos libs witch library exaclly php need
[16:03] <Cube``> hey guys, after updating, the wifi toggle no longer works
[16:03] <Cube``> how do i fix that?
[16:04] <dalesulx> i have some questions
[16:05] <Sidewinder1> dalesulx, Feel free to ask.
[16:05] <soreau> Cube``: maybe try rfkill unblock wifi
[16:05] <LABcrab> Sidewinder1: When watching the clips in Windows, i plug the coaxial but still need a separate plug for audio.  Why can't i use S-Video and the card's audio input?  Also: http://youtu.be/oaQYFG_E71Q&t=152 i want to be able to read the "emergency button" text on the left of the door.
[16:06] <dalesulx> is there any ubuntu 11.10 team
[16:06] <dr_willis> dalesulx:  state the questiomn and see who answers
[16:07] <dalesulx> when are that going to make if easy to install theme in unity
[16:07] <dalesulx> opps if =it
[16:08] <xangua> dalesulx: use gnome-tweak-tool
[16:08] <xangua> /google webupd8 oneiric tweak
[16:08] <LABcrab> dalesulx: Yes, they can be seen here http://youtu.be/3KANI2dpXLw
[16:08] <dr_willis> Unity can use the gnome-3 themes.  but the whole themeing of gnome shell and gnome-3 are works in progress.
[16:08] <dalesulx> it breack unity
[16:08] <LABcrab> dr_willis: Have you ever watched TV with Ubuntu?
[16:08] <dr_willis> dalesulx:  i got a few themes from the webupd8 blog site tutorial on it.
[16:08] <Sidewinder1> LABcrab, Sorry I have no clue, :-( I had to fiddle with my set-up, to "no-end", to finally get it to work.. Since we probably have different hdw. (not to mention diff, versions, 10.04, here) I don't thing I can be of much help.
[16:08] <dr_willis> LABcrab:  ive used tv tuner cards with Mythbuntu in the past.
[16:08] <LABcrab> It is a Hauppage Sidewinder1.
[16:09] <LABcrab> dr_willis: Does Myth.tv/Mythbuntu have a huge download size?
[16:09] <dr_willis> LABcrab:  but nothing in the last 2+ years. i need to get a new video capture/tuner card some day
[16:09] <oCean> LABcrab: how is your youtu.be link helpful?
[16:09] <LABcrab> and i think VLC would be easier.
[16:09] <dr_willis> LABcrab:  bigger the vlc i imagine...
[16:09] <dalesulx> ya but those theme are ppls and ubuntu want to block them
[16:09] <Sidewinder1> LABcrab, Have you looked into Mythtv and tvtime? Might be a good place to start..
[16:09] <dr_willis> then vlc...
[16:09] <dr_willis> !info tvtime
[16:10] <LABcrab> oCean: Because i don't know the 11.10 team?  :O
[16:10] <LABcrab> :P
[16:10] <oCean> LABcrab: Don't give silly answers if you don't have real ones, thank you
[16:10] <LABcrab> oCean: Do you have an answer then for the 11.10 team?
[16:11] <dr_willis> dalesulx:  huh? be a bit more clear in your statements. I have used custome themes in unity/gnome-shell/gnome-3/gtk3 from the guides at the webupd8 blog site.
[16:11] <dr_willis> dalesulx:  they even have a list of the best looking themes/top 5 list of them.
[16:11] <LABcrab> i am using Clearlooks for as long as i can.
[16:12] <LABcrab> oCean: But the one with Jump5 was actually helpful.  i want to see text.
[16:12] <dr_willis> bbl
[16:12] <teddie> clearlooks has too much white, the taskbar is really hard to differentiate windows with
[16:12] <LABcrab> teddie: Mmhmm.  Colours can be changed, however.
[16:12] <teddie> i see
[16:13] <dalesulx> ya i have theme but evey one talks bad about unity and i like unity the thing im saying gnome breaks unity
[16:13] <fytfytf> is there a way to remove old kernel versions with oneiric's Software Center or do I have to resort to apt for that?\
[16:14] <tmg>            ~~~~~.
[16:14] <dr_willis> dalesulx:  unity runs on top of gnome-3., gnome does not 'break' unity.
[16:14] <dr_willis> dalesulx:  and people talk bad about everything 'new' and in the next breath they rant about the stuff thats old... so use what you like.
[16:15] <wildc4rd> good afternoon all
[16:15] <GirlyGirl> Hi, are packages of KDE 4.8 beta available for Kubuntu or will I have to build from source to test it?
[16:15] <GirlyGirl> http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.8-beta1.php
[16:15] <Sidewinder1> fytfytf, There might be a way with Software Ctr.; I know it can be done with Synaptic but you may need to download it.
[16:15] <dr_willis> bbl
[16:16] <oCean> GirlyGirl: maybe try #ubuntu+1, as you know this channel is for stable releases only
[16:16] <dalesulx> im still trying to get unity to work on a 2gopc tablet
[16:16] <GirlyGirl> oCean: I was referring to backports for 11.10
[16:16] <Cube``> soreau: nope, didnt work :(
[16:17] <soreau> Cube``: What wifi card is it?
[16:17] <fytfytf> Sidewinder1:  I have always used synaptic or aptitude/apt-tools for packagemanagement, but I just wonder as Software Center is now the standard tool (and I have experienced Synaptic/aptitude messing up package management on oneiric a bit...)
[16:18] <Cube``> soreau: ah wait, looks like it was bluetooth
[16:18] <Cube``> thans brah
[16:18] <soreau> cool
[16:18] <bekks> mamece2: You still havent answered my question: is the computer you are trying to get that working even able to boot from usb? did _that_ ever booted from usb or do you just think it should be able?
[16:18] <Sidewinder1> fytfytf, I wouldn't know about that, sorry, 10.04 here.. ;-)
[16:19] <mamece2> bekks: ofc it is able, i hit F2 and i set the usb port to be the first drive to boot. also i have booted from usb in that PC before.
[16:19] <fytfytf> I'll just use apt then...
[16:19] <Sidewinder1> :D
[16:19] <teddie> hm, maybe i should give unity another try.. how long did it take most people? i gave up after a few days as i received anxiety attacks like i was trapped in a coffin which took so long to open the lid of when i needed to i feared suffocation
[16:20] <mamece2> bekks: could it be a partition problem? ive dl gpart
[16:20] <Sidewinder1> fytfytf, Just don't forget the back-ups..
[16:20] <bekks> mamece2: Maybe. I have no clue what you have done with the usb device.
[16:21] <lunitik> teddie, Unity is really very nice, utilize the win key as much as possible  :)
[16:21] <lunitik> teddie, it really isn't so different from old gnome2 though... just with a side docky and gnome-do all included in a single interface
[16:21]  * lunitik really doesn't understand why anyone dislikes it
[16:21] <Nightwalkerkg> Hi,docky reports that i need compzing enabled
[16:22] <mamece2> bekks: the last thing i did: i got into windows , format in FAT32 and then i made the usb bootable with livelinux. using in each pendrive puppy and ubuntu10 386 images
[16:22] <Nightwalkerkg> compoziting enabled,how do i enable it?
[16:22] <lunitik> Nightwalkerkg, so enable it?
[16:22] <teddie> lunitik, I suppose it's the way windows are grouped into a thumbnail.. i have to set windows 7 to not do that too. is it possible in unity?
[16:22] <xangua> !details | Nightwalkerkg
[16:23] <lunitik> teddie, it is task oriented instead of window oriented... it is actually pleasant if you get used to it... less clutter about the place
[16:23] <Nightwalkerkg> lunitik how do i enable compoziting?
[16:23] <fytfytf> Sidewinder1: thanks for reminding me
[16:23] <Sidewinder1> fytfytf, My pleasure; beats "working without a net!"
[16:23] <LABcrab> How is Ubuntu so small yet it has so many drivers included?
[16:24] <fytfytf> Can I somehow use fglrx to accelerate video decoding by the way?
[16:24] <fytfytf> LABcrab: ssmall?
[16:24] <thisistheaussiet> Hi there! I'm looking for a good OS X alternative Linux distro. Any ideas?
[16:24] <lunitik> Nightwalkerkg, most have it enabled via compiz ... you can also install libxcomposite1 and that should work
[16:24] <teddie> LABcrab, because many devices share the same chipsets?
[16:24] <xangua> LABcrab: there are incluided in the linux kernel, most of them
[16:24] <bekks> LABcrab: Dont mix up Ubuntu (all thos shine programs) with Linux (the kernel and all drivers).
[16:24] <xangua> thisistheaussiet: ubuntu¿
[16:24] <Nightwalkerkg> Fixed it,tnx :)
[16:25] <bekks> LABcrab: The kernel including all drivers isnt big at all.
[16:25] <thisistheaussiet> xangua: Besides Ubuntu.
[16:25] <xangua> thisistheaussiet: well what do you want me to suggest you on the ubuntu channel¿¿ :P
[16:25] <thisistheaussiet> xangua: -_- I couldn't find a better channel.
[16:25] <lunitik> teddie, fwiw, alt+<button above tab> will go through open windows for a given task...
[16:25] <jrib> thisistheaussiet: yes try #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux
[16:26] <casa_> hello, need some help please, i have issues printing with oneiric, this is the example
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[16:26] <lunitik> teddie, also, stopping on one task in alt+tab will open up all the windows for that tab and arrow keys will let you pick one...
[16:27] <teddie> lunitik, i really want 1-click access to any running window though :( although I understand the concept, which is similar to how android works.. but i have a huge resolution monitor, i dont care about clutter :p
[16:28] <lunitik> teddie, not caring about clutter doesn't mean its a good design decision to have clutter
[16:28] <LABcrab> This isn't working.  :(  http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-1250
[16:28] <lunitik> teddie, Unity is about preserving pixels everywhere it can... if you prefer a mess, try KDE perhaps?
[16:28] <teddie> it already sucks that computers can't read our minds to switch windows on demand, so to make it more difficult..
[16:29] <lunitik> teddie, it isn't more difficult, it is just more organized
[16:29] <teddie> lunitik, i agree it's better for casual users
[16:29] <Nightwalkerkg> I have installed ATI RADEON drivers for my ATI RADEON 9550 card,but when i want to open aticonfig or CCC i get the error that no drivers are installed.Can you help me fix this?
[16:29] <teddie> and those using netbooks, tablet pcs etc
[16:29] <bekks> !details | LABcrab
[16:29] <lunitik> teddie, it isn't only for casual users, it is also better for power users because you don't have to remember where you put things
[16:29] <teddie> but I guess it's not for me, which is okay.. some of the best things in life are those not for everybody
[16:30] <LABcrab> i am trying to get the TV tuner to display channel 3 or 4 in Ubuntu via VLC.  This isn't working.  http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-1250
[16:30] <bekks> LABcrab: "isnt working" is NOT an error message.
[16:30] <lunitik> teddie, I really suggest losing your stubbornness and just giving it a decent shot... granted I was one of those trying to get it working when it was still only for netbooks but it just makes things cleaner
[16:30] <bekks> LABcrab: Please tell us what exactly happens.
[16:31] <teddie> lunitik, okay! they say it takes a month to get used to something
[16:31] <teddie> so i will try it for more than a week
[16:31] <LABcrab> The errors messages say "VLC cannot open (DVB or V4L2)"
[16:32] <lunitik> teddie, do so, once you get used to the workflow it is a pure joy... it is just that your workflow patterns haven't really changed in so long you do not even want them improved now
[16:32] <teddie> lunitik, exactly.. i hate feeling like a newbie at my computer again
[16:32] <bekks> LABcrab: Please provide the _detailed_ error messages, and not only parts of them - do so in a nopaste please.
[16:32] <teddie> it's like forgetting how to type
[16:32] <lunitik> teddie, just remember, the winkey is your friend... even holding it pick a favorite app (those on the side)
[16:32] <LABcrab> beekThat's as far as it goes.
[16:33] <aj00200> Is there a way to add books to a Kindle from Ubuntu?
[16:34] <fytfytf> who is using getdeb or other repositories? any tips?
[16:34] <Yanch0> guys can anyone pls recommend me a site where i can check for hardware compatiblitiy with a cheap wireless pci card pls?
[16:34] <jrib> !wireless | Yanch0
[16:34] <lunitik> teddie, protip: if you have multiple apps in the side pane, holding winkey and hitting its respective number shows you all open windows of just that app in a expose like display
[16:35] <Yanch0> tnx jr
[16:35] <lunitik> teddie, multiple open windows for apps in the*
[16:35] <sharpK> anyone know of a good guide for 11.10 desktop acting as a server in terms of torrenting (so that the other computers can use the server for torrents)?
[16:35] <teddie> lunitik, okay Thanks I will give it a try !
[16:35] <lunitik> teddie, winkey is really your friend in unity, I cannot stress it enough  :P
[16:36] <fytfytf> sharpK, just use transmission's web interface
[16:38] <LABcrab> i can't even find WinTV-HVR-1250 in the lspci list.  :I(
[16:38] <LABcrab> :(
[16:39] <sharpK> fytfytF: nice, thanks. I was wondering if there is some kind of setup so that the novice windows users can find torrents and for them to automatically download to the server....
[16:39] <bekks> LABcrab: Is it a PCI device? Or is it an USB device?
[16:40] <nardev> Is there anyone in this world who can tell me how to configure my external monitor as my primary and only one. I have laptop, nvidia graphics currently set as device...
[16:40] <dr_willis> nardev:  i just use the nvidia-settings tool to do that.
[16:40] <bekks> nardev: Just use nvidia-settings.
[16:40] <dr_willis> takes me all of 20 seconds. :)
[16:41] <dr_willis> Some laptops - you MIGHT need to use the special fn-XX keys to toggle the monitors
[16:41] <kraut> hello
[16:41] <kraut> why was libmp4v2 deleted?
[16:41] <Yanch0> jrib, will the pci to mini pcie adapters play a role if a wireless card is compatbile or not pls?
[16:42] <jrib> Yanch0: I don't know
[16:42] <LABcrab> bekks: It uses two very small (PCI?) connectors.
[16:43] <nardev> dr_willis, bekks impossible, could you send me your config file, ? my nvidia-settings has bug so it can't load xorg.conf
[16:43] <kazzam> hi there guys ...gls 2 too
[16:44] <lefty_> does anyone know what happened to 11.04
[16:44] <bastidrazor> lefty_: the Gods smiled and 11.04 was born
[16:46] <kazzam> lefty_, how would we know what happend if you don't explain the late people..keep the post alive
[16:46] <LABcrab> Why is it so easy in Windows, but so difficult in Linux, to use my TV Tuner card?
[16:46] <lefty_> kazzam: huh?
[16:46] <kraut> why was libmp4v2 deleted from oneiric?
[16:47] <kazzam> LABcrab, may be you are nocking on wrong door there is a ubuntu distro for TV..find it out
[16:48] <LABcrab> kazzam: i just want to use a TV Tuner card.
[16:48] <kazzam> LABcrab, earn what you get ...
[16:48] <LABcrab> kazzam: What?
[16:49] <kazzam> LABcrab, i can tell you there is a treasure and link to it find it out for you self if you want it..:))
[16:50] <pikaciu> mythtv ubuntu
[16:50] <LABcrab> pikaciu: Why can't i just use VLC?  That's what i did with Windows.  i don't have unlimited Internet.
[16:50] <Dante_> hii
[16:51] <pikaciu> LABcrab: why do you want use VLC ?
[16:52] <kazzam> lefty_,  please repeat you question in the session if not answered..or not attended...thanks
[16:52] <xarlev> hey, can someone help me with a bug i'm having in ubuntu?
[16:52] <zkriesse_> !ask | xarlev
[16:52] <LABcrab> pikaciu: It works well enough in Winows, and i can't download a lot of files.  Plus, i want to know whether my card is installed and working.
[16:54] <Dante_> i just installed ubuntu 10.04 and it's great ... :-)
[16:54] <thisistheaussiet> Does anyone know how to get the gnome2-globalmenu in Natty?
[16:55] <xarlev> I insalled an ubuntu dual boot, and now whenever i boot to my ubuntu partition, I get a black screen, I think it might be because i need proprietary graphics card drivers, i am using an AMD-A6 Raedon graphics card
[16:55] <Nightwalkerkg> how do i run the amd-uninstall.sh from usr/share/ati ?
[16:56] <Dante_> xarlev: yes it's hard to get your screen on in raedon drivers ...
[16:56] <kazzam> thisistheaussiet, you will have to wait for later session ..
[16:59] <laughing> ls
[16:59] <kazzam> xarlev, ubuntu will boot in with prob..drivers..
[16:59] <laughing> 弄好
[16:59] <kamilnadeem> Hi
[16:59] <laughing> hi
[16:59] <oCean> !cn | laughing
[16:59] <Dante_> hi
[17:00] <kamilnadeem> whihc version of libreoffice does 11.10 ships with?
[17:00] <laughing> 这么晚了。都没有睡？
[17:00] <oCean> !info libreoffice
[17:00] <gllera> 这么晚了。都没有睡？ =D
[17:00] <kurisu> is it ok to install 32 bit ubuntu on 64bit machine?
[17:00] <kazzam> ignore nightwalerkg
[17:01] <kamilnadeem> kurisu: why would you want to do that ?
[17:01] <fytfytf> kurisu: should not cause problems
[17:01] <ayrton_> hey can you guys show me how to install mesa? is there a ppa
[17:01] <kurisu> because I'm having lot of problems with ubuntu... think it has something to do with it being 64 bit
[17:01] <fytfytf> kurisu: what problems?
[17:02] <LABcrab> i gave up.  Just using Windows to watch TV.  What an answer.
[17:02] <kurisu> just having so many problems with ubuntu (more than I've ever had (using ubuntu for 5 /
[17:02] <Roasted> LABcrab, windows to "Watch tv?"
[17:02] <kurisu> 5/6 years***
[17:02] <gllera> laughing 這裡是早期;）
[17:02] <Dante_> labcrap: what was your problem ??
[17:02] <LABcrab> Roasted: aka. VHS tapes.
[17:02] <Roasted> kurisu, I haven't had any 64 bit related issues in Ubuntu for the better part of 4 years now
[17:02] <kazzam> ayrton_, if modify x.org you should backup..
[17:02] <Roasted> LABcrab, VHS? Well... :<
[17:02] <kurisu> oh right
[17:02] <laughing> 各位，没事就早点睡把
[17:02] <ayrton_> thanks kazzam
[17:03] <Roasted> kurisu, what issues are you having?
[17:03] <kurisu> ... well I'll try updating to 11.10 64 and see how it goes
[17:03] <inashdeen> is there a way to install kazam on ubuntu 11.10?
[17:03] <oCean> gllera, laughing: English only
[17:03] <Darminayd95> Hi people!
[17:03] <kurisu> keeps hanging
[17:03] <Roasted> kurisu, hanging like, hanging what?
[17:03] <ayrton_> can someone tell me what mesa is and how to get it ? cause i need it for shader 3.0 support on a game in wine
[17:04] <kazzam> kurisu, what is wrong about the ram that its show..and already you have more
[17:04] <JoseeAntonioR> ayrton_ It's a free implementation of the EGL API.
[17:04] <kurisu> at first I thought it was flash ( had 32 bit flash by accident )... so removed and put 64 bit on... but still hangs (not as often though)
[17:05] <JoseeAntonioR> ayrton_ You can install it by opening a Terminal and typing "sudo apt-get install mesa", without quotes.
[17:05] <Roasted> kurisu, what do you mean hanging? You need to be more descriptive. Does it hang at boot? Hang in the middle of a flash video?
[17:05] <kazzam> ayrton_, check the pkg manager i really don't use ubuntu
[17:05] <Dante___> !info mesa
[17:05] <kurisu> looking in xorg log I get Fatal server error:
[17:05] <kurisu> [   238.366] xf86OpenConsole: VT_WAITACTIVE failed: Interrupted system call
[17:05] <JoseeAntonioR> !info mesa-utils
[17:06] <kazzam> Dante_, could be software center..or some thing.. commonsense
[17:06] <xarlev> I think the solution to my aformentioned problem (raedon graphics cards) is to install the graphics cards to a live cd and reinstall, but how would I go about installing graphics cards to a livecd?
[17:06] <kurisu> hanging as in completely crashes... cannot even ctrl-alt-F1
[17:06] <gebbione> hi all , i am trying to access another machine share from ubuntu but i cannot get it to work. suggestions? I am using the File->connect to server and also tried to start the samba gui but it does not start
[17:06] <xarlev> *graphics card drivers
[17:07] <Dante___> kazzam: what are you talking about ?
[17:07] <kurisu> Roasted: caps lock does not even respond
[17:08] <kazzam> Dante_, i am trying to ..something you soon will get auto answer from the server.
[17:08] <Dante___> huh
[17:08] <faLUCE>  hi. I'm reallly getting crazy with rosegarden+timidity on ubuntu. Sometimes it works, other times no midi sound. Other times I have to run timidity on a separate command in order to hear sounds. Some other times neither this solution works. Is there a STABLE way that I can follow in order to have rosegarden+timidity working?
[17:08] <oCean> kazzam: you are not making much sense
[17:08] <norpan> How do one install nvidia latest stable drivers? i want the 290.10 one.. but it only downloades as a .run?
[17:09] <kazzam> gdm!
[17:09] <Dante___> !gdm
[17:09] <Dante___> sorry i dont use gdm ...
[17:10] <kazzam> Dante___, i really don't want a new user to experiment with the x.org
[17:11] <norpan> How do one install nvidia latest stable drivers? i want the 290.10 one.. but it only downloades as a .run?
[17:11] <kazzam> oCean, we get much deeper than the ocean keep the trail
[17:11] <Dante___> kazzam, but im the user experimenting with x.org
[17:12] <MeQuerSat> norpan, run sudo apt-get install nvidia-current from the terminal
[17:12] <Dante___> ;)
[17:12] <oCean> kazzam: please start making sense
[17:12] <kurisu> Roasted: ahhh there is a known bug in 11.04... time to update
[17:12] <fytfytf> what's up with 'ecryptfs_writepage: Error encrypting page ...'/ 'ecryptfs_encrypt_page: Error attempting to write lower page; rc...' messages by the way, I can see bug reports and fixes committed, but is it damaging?
[17:12] <MeQuerSat> norpan, you can also run the .run file directly from nvidia, but its not recommended
[17:13] <Dante___> kurisu, just update the kernel .... if the bug is some recurring error ....
[17:13] <kurisu> how?
[17:13] <gauravd> hey can anyone help me i want to know how can i read the documentation that i downloaded off the apt-get in the terminal
[17:13] <xarlev> I insalled an ubuntu dual boot, and now whenever i boot to my ubuntu partition, I get a black screen, I think it might be because i need proprietary graphics card drivers, i am using an AMD-A6 Raedon graphics card
[17:13] <kazzam> Dante___, you install vesa drivers can simply take you in the ubuntu..additional drivers are required if you want compiz etc ..there is no need to edit xorg , only if you know what what you are doing.
[17:15] <breakdown> Hi,pls tell me where i may find intel gma 4500 integrated video card driver (sorry for bad english^^)
[17:15] <kazzam> oCean, yeh! was not making sense sorry ..i will from now on..thanks
[17:15] <Dante___> kazzam,i have compiz already .... and everything i need to run my system smoothly and without  fuss .... basically i use both x.org and gdm... ;)
[17:15] <gauravd> i was searching through the apt-cache and i downloaded the documentation for my web framework but how can i read through it...also where is it installed ?????plz
[17:16] <jrib> gauravd: dpkg -L PACKAGE will tell you what files a package installed (likely you want to check /usr/share/doc)
[17:16] <Dante___> i just don't like the gnome login screen....
[17:16] <kazzam> Dante___, ubuntu has a graphical login..or you have to rype startx at the prompt
[17:16] <gauravd> jrib: thank u..let me see
[17:16] <Dante___> kazzam, yeahh i like typing startx ....
[17:17] <MeQuerSat> breakdown, it should be installed by default already
[17:17] <Dante___> no login screen ....
[17:17] <kazzam> Dante___, what window manager do you use kde, gnome,lxde or come thing else
[17:18] <breakdown> MeQuerSat, thanks ^^
[17:18] <Dante___> gnome i prefer ..... it's the best
[17:18] <Dante___> :)
[17:18] <faLUCE>  hi. I'm reallly getting crazy with rosegarden+timidity on ubuntu. Sometimes it works, other times no midi sound. Other times I have to run timidity on a separate command in order to hear sounds. Some other times neither this solution works. Is there a STABLE way that I can follow in order to have rosegarden+timidity working?
[17:18] <Dante___> kazzam, what version of ubuntu u got ?
[17:18] <gebbione> anyone knows a gui samba client?
[17:19] <kazzam> Dante___, i don't you ubuntu..i told that before if you could scroll up
[17:19] <unit4216> wondering if anyone with lots of ubuntu experience and has physical credentials would be willing to do an interview?
[17:19] <bekks> gebbione: there isnt.
[17:19] <norpan> MeQuerSat: it says i have latest installed..but i havent
[17:19] <Dante___> kazzam, then what you use ?? thats what u never told anyone :P
[17:19] <Jovaro> I use 11.10 and programs that crash are automaticly restarted. Does someone know how to disable that? I am in a loop with a constantly crashing program....
[17:19] <MeQuerSat> norpan, why would you think you dont have the latest installed?
[17:20] <kazzam> Dante___, that is irrelevent..to the session..
[17:20] <MeQuerSat> norpan, also do a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[17:20] <noobish> which script is responsible for the cpio command used during update-initramfs? I can't see it mentioned in the aforementioned script...
[17:20] <norpan> MeQuerSat: in nvidia settings it says i have 280.13
[17:20] <norpan> MeQuerSat: but nvidias website has 290.13
[17:20] <norpan> .10
[17:20] <breakdown> what i need to play games on ubuntu ?:) wine and directx?
[17:20] <Dante___> kazzam, ohhh.. now im more curious ..... what you use some self developed linux os ??
[17:21] <kazzam> norpan, if you click additional drivers please prop.drivers and will work fine with nvidia
[17:21] <unit4216> yeah, i hate to spam the ubuntu channel here, but if anyone could answer some questions, even over email, that would be great.  you would have to provide your real name and some credentials though.
[17:21] <Dante___> :P
[17:21] <MeQuerSat> norpan, the latest ubuntu nvidia drivers are always a bit behind the latest nvidia drivers
[17:21] <MeQuerSat> norpan, dont worry about it
[17:21] <norpan> MeQuerSat: thank you for that, it found updates for nvidia now! installing =)
[17:21] <blz> Hello, I rather suddenly began getting piss-poor performance when accessing files on an NTFS partition.  I'm not sure how to go about fixing this... any advice?
[17:21] <MeQuerSat> :)
[17:21] <MeQuerSat> blz: defrag it?
[17:22] <norpan> kazzam: thanks for the answer, i have been doing that but i have seen there is update for linux drivers.. and now i got those to.
[17:22] <blz> MeQuerSat, done.  Either way the problem only occurs under ubuntu
[17:22] <kazzam> Dante___, some are mis-leading in ubuntu session..my bro got some things i had to come in
[17:22] <MeQuerSat> blz: make sure youre using the ntfs-3g drivers
[17:22] <blz> MeQuerSat, also done
[17:23] <blz> MeQuerSat, and this is a problem with *reading* files, not writing, strangely enough
[17:23] <Dante___> kazzam, ohh okay ...,
[17:23] <gebbione> bekks: that sux ... i cant get my client to open my remote share
[17:23] <zacktu> i reinstalled 11.10 to replace 11.04 -- save /home elsewhere and then copied portions of it back as needed, removing some old stuff not needed any more -- i've already made some changes to local files -- ubuntu one appears to want to restore directories -- i don't want that -- how can i make my local files dominant when syncing w/ ubuntu one?
[17:24] <MeQuerSat> blz: not sure then, a reboot might help?
[17:24] <bekks> gebbione: A GUI client wont change that.
[17:24] <Dante___> blz, what problem you got ??
[17:24] <blz> MeQuerSat, if you don't know that's okay but suggesting a reboot isn't very constructive
[17:24] <CiPi> http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2011112700241OSUB - Ubuntu Linux losing popularity fast 100% because of the crap unity.
[17:25] <kazzam> ppl with geninue problem please stay .. ice-root,Gentoo-64, and later gunbert in morning will help all you issue ..bye
[17:25] <blz> Dante__, I have an NTFS partition that performs just fine under windows but has terribly slow read access under linux.  I tried defragging it under windows and I'm running ntfs-3g under linux
[17:25] <blz> Dante, this problem began occurring pretty recently and seemingly out of nowhere =/
[17:25] <gebbione> kazzam how about this , i am trying to access another machine share from ubuntu but i cannot get it to work. suggestions? I am using the File->connect to server and also tried to start the samba gui but it does not start
[17:26] <Dante___> blz, what version of ubuntu you got ??
[17:26] <MeQuerSat> blz: you would be surprised how many times that helped
[17:26] <blz> 11.10
[17:26] <ry> is there some secret to making gnome 2.x users not hate 3.x ?
[17:26] <blz> MeQuerSat, sure, but like I said before, I tried defragging it under windows and it performs just fine under windows.  Both of these statements imply a reboot
[17:26] <MeQuerSat> ry: its called Gnome Shell
[17:26] <Dante___> blz, how many partitions you got on your harddisk ??
[17:27] <breakdown> hey,what am i need to play windows games on ubuntu?(srry for my english again -_-)
[17:27] <blz> Dante__, hmm let me double check
[17:27] <Dante___> ok
[17:27] <MeQuerSat> blz: not necessarily, but I can understand how you think that would be the case
[17:28] <gauravd> jrib: can i view the documenation that i downloaded with the shell..sorry i am  a newbie
[17:28] <jrib> gauravd: depends... what format is it in?
[17:28] <albert_> quit
[17:28] <Roasted> Anyone out there use Rhythmbox? I'm finding Rhythmbox for some reason segfaulting every few minutes. It makes it almost unusable.
[17:28] <blz> Dante___, 6 partitions
[17:29] <blz> Dante___, one of which is the "extended" partition
[17:29] <Dante___> blz, maybe thats your problem that you got too many shrinked and extended partitions
[17:30] <gauravd> jrib: well i'd find them really helpful if they are displayed just like man pages they are in html though
[17:30] <blz> Dante___, here's the output of fdisk -l:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/751624/
[17:30] <gauravd> jrib: thanks for ur help
[17:30] <MeQuerSat> blz: What is the % free space on the used partition?
[17:30] <blz> Dante___, could you elaborate?
[17:30] <blz> MeQuerSat, let me check real quick
[17:30] <jrib> gauravd: what software?  By the way you can view the html using something like w3m
[17:30] <meerkats> is make clean dangerous?
[17:30] <jrib> gauravd: what software?  By the way you can view the html *in your terminal* using something like w3m
[17:30] <dr_willis> meerkats:  just cleans out the compiled files..
[17:31] <blz> MeQuerSat, about 60% full
[17:31] <blz> ish
[17:31] <gauravd> jrib: wow really...
[17:31] <Dante___> blz, yes
[17:31] <blz> Dante___, what do you mean by "shrinked" partition?
[17:31] <jrib> gauravd: yes, w3m, lynx, elinks, links2 to name a few
[17:31] <meerkats> dr_willis, but that doesn't mean it will delete any necesary filde
[17:31] <meerkats> necessary file*
[17:31] <blz> I haven't resized anything if that's what you meant
[17:31] <dr_willis> meerkats:  if you are compiling from soruce.. make clean. will clean out binary files from the source directory...
[17:31] <Dante___> blz, well you got cylinders on your harddisk and they need to be alligned for the ubuntu to read them ...
[17:32] <dr_willis> meerkats:  it should do NOTHING to the system.
[17:32] <meerkats> aa, ok
[17:32] <blz> Dante___, This is an SSD if it makes a difference
[17:32] <gauravd> jrib: browser in a terminal...sounds great
[17:32] <Dante___> blz, thats the similar thing like fragmentation , but on the level of entire harddisk ...
[17:32] <jrib> gauravd: should work ok for docs
[17:32] <orazio> hello,  I need to remaster an ubuntu server 11.10, any advices? UCK is bugged, wiki help page is old and not super-clear.  Somebody did succeed?
[17:32] <blz> Dante__, ok.  Is there a way I can check for that?
[17:32] <CiPi> Cabrones, get rid of the unity... Ubuntu has become notorious bad...
[17:32] <MisterMom> does ubuntu 11.10 have alsa built into the kernel ?
[17:33] <Dante___> blz, like u extend a partition assing extra space to it similarly u can extract some space from a free drive that called shrinking ...
[17:33] <MeQuerSat> blz: an ssd -_-
[17:33] <MeQuerSat> blz: that makes a huge difference
[17:33] <Dante___> using*
[17:33] <blz> MeQuerSat, yeah forgot to mention that bit
[17:33] <MeQuerSat> blz: fragmentation doesnt exist on SSD's
[17:33] <MeQuerSat> ...
[17:34] <blz> MeQuerSat, sure it does.  It just gets accessed in constant time.
[17:34] <Dante___> ohhh well SSD
[17:34] <blz> unless I'm mistaken
[17:34] <blz> Dante___, I blame lack of coffee.  sorry about that !
[17:35] <Dante___> blz, sure coffee get one for me too ;)
[17:35] <Exxon> hey! guys ..girls too
[17:35] <blz> I'll get right on that!
[17:36] <MeQuerSat> blz: Im not sure, but try mounting it with noatime
[17:36] <Exxon> any girls around here
[17:36] <blz> MeQuerSat, yep I tried that too.  noatime and nodiratime (although I believe the latter is implied by the former...)
[17:36] <Yanch0> guys, a pci to minipci adapter can it make a compatible wifi minipci adapter incompatible to linux pls? does it affect compatiblity?
[17:36] <MeQuerSat> yeah, noatime --> nodiratime
[17:37] <Exxon> yANCH0
[17:38] <blz> actually I wonder if it's getting mounted with the sync option
[17:39] <crontab> hey
[17:39] <noobish> any ideas on where to look when cpio fails with 'invalid option --' during update-initramfs?
[17:39] <Exxon> can they come up with easy names instead to use all keyboard un-wanted crac..simply cannot be tab>
[17:39] <crontab> any one knows about apache webserver configuration
[17:40] <crontab> I need some clarifications
[17:40] <crontab> answer me dudes
[17:40] <Exxon> we are a split for time bing so be with us..
[17:40] <crontab> no geeks here?? ??
[17:40] <blz> where can I find currently mounted volumes and their flags at the command line?  I tried doing a cat of /etc/fstab but I don't see a currently mounted volume
[17:40] <blz> crontab, nope, none
[17:40] <noobish> crontab: try asking your question instead of asking to ask
[17:40] <blz> !ask | crontab
[17:41] <crontab> is apache reads configuration dynamically
[17:41] <crontab> ?
[17:41] <MisterMom> what is the default sound system in ubuntu 11.10 ?
[17:41] <blz> crontab, I believe there's also #apache if it's an apache-specific issue
[17:41] <crontab> okie
[17:41] <crontab> thanks
[17:41] <Exxon> crontab, google for configuration ..you get step by step details..more than you require.
[17:41] <crontab> list
[17:42] <llutz> crontab: check #httpd too
[17:42] <Exxon> crontab, i will link it to you
[17:42] <crontab> google don't have anything
[17:42] <crontab> about my doubts
[17:43] <crontab> anyway thanks guys...
[17:43] <oCean> crontab: there are many guides. For ubuntu start at http://help.ubuntu.com
[17:43] <dfox92> hello guys!
[17:43] <Exxon> i am probing into it..if that so i will give a pdf from other source
[17:43] <dfox92> im getting sad
[17:44] <Exxon> dfox92, when you are with us you friends you don't have to worry..:O)
[17:44] <Dante___> dfox92, why sad ?? :o
[17:45] <dfox92> got a 13" macbook pro, bought in 2010. if install the altest ubuntu all goes fine. if i install it using alternate installer all is fine. if i install it using alternate installer and choose LVM USE WHOLE DISK/ENCRYPT WHOLE DISC it installs. but macbook gives me that question mark upon restart.... cant boot it.... i :( ive tried everything since friday! i need ubuntu on this macbook pro and whole disc ENCRYPTED :( :(
[17:45] <dfox92> Exxon, Dante___  ;)
[17:45] <Dj_FlyBy> I've changed the power management settings and the screensaver settings, but my computer still goes into a black screen screensaver after just 2-3 minutes.... how do I stop this from happening?
[17:46] <Dante___> :S
[17:46] <tomasz_hp> Hello
[17:46] <Exxon> Dj_FlyBy, are you familiar with terminal commands
[17:46] <tomasz_hp> i install ubuntu 11.10 and have some problem
[17:47] <Dj_FlyBy> Exxon: somewhat familiar
[17:47] <tomasz_hp> kadu cant maximize form tray icon :(
[17:47] <tomasz_hp> i must close aplication and run again
[17:47] <blz> where can I find currently mounted volumes and their flags at the command line?  I tried doing a cat of /etc/fstab but I don't see a currently mounted volume
[17:47] <Exxon> Dj_FlyBy, let me look for link if don't find it i will help you step by step
[17:47] <bekks> blz: /proc/mounts
[17:48] <bekks> blz: Or just "mount".
[17:48] <tomasz_hp> in ubutnu 11.04 it works
[17:48] <Dj_FlyBy> Exxon: much appreciated
[17:48] <blz> thanks, bekks
[17:49] <MisterMom> can anyone tell me what is the default sound system in ubuntu 11.10 ?
[17:50] <breakdown> hey,what i am need to play windows games on ubuntu?(sorry for bad english :3)
[17:50] <dfox92> breakdown, WINE
[17:50] <dfox92> :P
[17:50] <Ampelbein> MisterMom: pulseaudio
[17:50] <bekks> breakdown: Hopefully the games you want to play with Ubuntu will run on wine - of not, you cant play them.
[17:50] <Dante___> !info playonlinux
[17:51] <Exxon> Dj_FlyBy, i had a bug but solved here is the link    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=788276
[17:51] <MisterMom> Ampelbein thanks and do you know if it is compiled into the kernel ?
[17:52] <Ampelbein> MisterMom: That question makes no sense. The kernel has nothing to do with the soundserver.
[17:52] <Exxon> MisterMom, aLsa
[17:53] <Dante___> mistermom, yes it is
[17:53] <MisterMom> Ampelbein thats what i thought but im trying to figure out what since 11.o4 i have choppy sound
[17:53] <Exxon> Dante___, there is a cd online linux simply donwnload it and enjoy you will not find any info here
[17:53] <MisterMom> lol ok a yes and a no
[17:54] <MisterMom> Dante___ thanks if that is the case then i know what the peroblem is with my choppy sound
[17:54] <Ampelbein> Dante___: No, it is not. PulseAudio can't be compiled in the kernel.
[17:55] <Dj_FlyBy> Exxon: very informative, but I was hoping to not have to disable power management completely.
[17:55] <Dante___> exxon , i thought all u need was to add it to the startup and it works ... thats what i did :S
[17:55] <Ampelbein> MisterMom: I'd first try without pulseaudio to see if that resolves your problem.
[17:55] <MisterMom> Ampelbein what has changed then since 11.04 to cause this choppy and unusable sound system
[17:56] <Dante___> ampelbein, what you basically mean by compiled ??
[17:56] <Exxon> Dj_FlyBy, all are not in our hands you should understand that we simply cannot help it trust me...
[17:57] <Ampelbein> Dante___: Having a kernelmodule or being part of the linux kernel. Basically, what you implied by your 'yes it is' reply to the question 'compiled into the kernel'.
[17:57] <MisterMom> Ampelbein how sould i do that
[17:57] <Exxon> Dante___, you are really trying to presiste its over.
[17:57] <Kimble> How can I undo a recent apt-get install?
[17:57] <Dj_FlyBy> Exxon: fair enough; thanks for the help
[17:57] <Ampelbein> MisterMom: 'sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio'
[17:58] <Dante___> ampelbein, maybe i misread the info sorry about that
[17:58] <oCean> Kimble: there is no 'undo', you have to apt-get remove (or apt-get purge) the packages you just installed
[17:58] <bsmith093> how do i pipe rsync output to a file
[17:58] <Exxon> Ampelbein, why do you give that command..
[17:59] <MisterMom> Ampelbein thanks will try this
[17:59] <pikaciu> Dante__: a great poet who misread ???  :P
[17:59] <Kimble> oCean: I tried that - I repeated the exact command except with "remove", but it only offers to remove 3MB of downloads, where the install was 400MB.
[17:59] <Dante___> pikaciu, :P :@
[17:59] <oCean> bsmith093: stdout en stderr?  rsync -blah -etc > /tmp/myrsync.log 2>&1
[17:59] <Exxon> :))
[18:00] <MisterMom> Ampelbein one last question what will this leave me for a sound system ?
[18:00] <oCean> Kimble: sudo apt-get autoremove will remove the dependencies that got installed
[18:00] <Ampelbein> MisterMom: alsa is the underlying system
[18:00] <oCean> (and now no longer needed)
[18:01] <MisterMom> Ampelbein ok thanks that is the answer i was looking for :-)
[18:01] <Exxon> Ampelbein, lspvi -v can you paste the output
[18:02] <Ampelbein> Exxon: Why do you want that from me? 'lspvi' isn't even a valid command.
[18:02] <pikaciu>  you have to   download pciutils
[18:02] <Exxon> Ampelbein, lspciv - v
[18:03] <Ampelbein> Exxon: Why? I don't need help with anything, my system works perfectly fine since 6.06.
[18:03] <jen__> how can i put songs on my ipod from gtkpod?
[18:04] <The_BROS> Help me. I have upgraded my Gimp to 2.7.3, but now I can save image only to .xcf format, but not to .png or .jpg. How this problem could be fixed?
[18:04] <Exxon> Ampelbein, some times people play tricks in the session ..i have to locate them..and end it.
[18:05] <llutz> The_BROS: where did you get 2.7.3 from?
[18:05] <Ampelbein> The_BROS: How did you upgrade to 2.7.3? It's not in the official repositories. I suggest asking the package creator.
[18:05] <muhomox86> Hi everyone i'm wondering where can i found wpa_supplicant.conf in Ubuntu 11.04?
[18:05] <Ampelbein> Exxon: I don't understand a word you say.
 <llutz> I have been using command: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:matthaeus123/mrw-gimp-svn && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install gimp && sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ferramroberto/gimp && sudo aptitude install update && sudo aptitude install gmic gimp-gmic
[18:06] <Exxon> Ampelbein, never mind simply copy it when you age you will understand..
[18:07] <llutz> !ppa | The_BROS
[18:07] <Ampelbein> muhomox86: If you are using the default install, NetworkManager should be used to configure the interface. No direct editing of wpasupplicant.conf needed.
[18:07] <llutz> The_BROS: see the warning...
[18:08] <llutz> The_BROS: ask the ppa-mainainer for help
[18:08] <muhomox86> Ampelbein, I just want to see my WEP configuration..
 how to install Gimp from stable PPA using terminal?
[18:08] <Ampelbein> muhomox86: You can view it in networkmanager.
[18:08] <mraeryceos> I am working within Windows XP, and I want to create a bootable usb external hard drive, that I can use to install Ubuntu on other computers.  Can you direct me to a web page with this info?
[18:09] <Exxon> Ampelbein, you really don't require wpasupplicant.conf in ubuntu
[18:09] <muhomox86> Ampelbein, ok, i'll try
[18:09] <Ampelbein> Exxon: I know that. Why do you tell me?
[18:09] <llutz> The_BROS: remove ppa from your sources, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gimp=<versionnumber from standard repo>
[18:10] <The_BROS> ok. thanks
[18:10] <Dante___> mraeryceos, use unetbootin for creating any bootable usb drive you want ...
[18:10] <Dante___> ;)
[18:10] <Exxon> Ampelbein, i told don't mis-lead the users ..
[18:10] <Ampelbein> The_BROS: Or use 'ppa-purge' (sudo apt-get install ppa-purge)
[18:10] <mraeryceos> unetbootin, thanks
[18:10] <Dante___> your welcome :) you can see the guides about it online ...
[18:11] <mraeryceos> Thanks Dante, goodbye
 But I can delete PPA by using Ubuntu Tweak?
[18:11] <Dante___> bye ...
[18:12] <Ampelbein> !ubuntutweak | The_BROS
[18:13] <jen__> how do I get songs on my itouch 4th gen from gtkpod??
[18:13] <Dante___> :0
[18:13] <Exxon> Ampelbein, i know that person left...but still why did you give him  wpasupplicant.conf
[18:14] <Ampelbein> Exxon: Learn to read maybe? I explicitly told him that it isn't needed to edit wpasupplicant.conf directly.
[18:14] <Kimble> Anyone here run a headless PVR?
[18:14] <jen__> how do i get music onto my itouch 4th gen from gtkpod??
[18:14] <scorinitron> google it?
[18:14] <Ampelbein> !ipod | jen__
[18:15] <Exxon> Ampelbein, if he wishes to connecto to wep he can simply free to do so also in wpa there is not need to the supid*.conf
[18:15] <Ampelbein> Exxon: THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I SAID!
[18:15] <scorinitron> lol
[18:15] <Dante___> hii im getting this error : Could not perform immediate configuration on already unpacked 'base-files'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details..... :/
[18:15] <llutz> Ampelbein: come down, just adjust your ignore-file :)
[18:16] <Exxon> Ampelbein, don't use you s***t here if you use are advanceed
[18:16] <escott> Dante___, what command where you running/what was it trying to install
[18:17] <Dante___> escott, let me check ... where it stopped ...
[18:17] <scorinitron> I'm trying to install a GTK2 theme in xubuntu...I extracted to .theme (after I created the folder) but it's not showing up
[18:17] <arcsky> dhello guys isnt this right about the ssh tunnel ? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17115439/ssh_tunnel.png
[18:17] <jen__> ubottu, I have ubuntu onieric :<
[18:17] <teddie> arcsky, that's terrible
[18:17] <jen__> grrr
[18:18] <Kimble> Can someone recommend a DVR package that can be scheduled remotely?  MythTV is no good.
[18:18] <Dante___> escott, there were lot of files i backedup and was installing throught dpkg -i
[18:18] <Ampelbein> Kimble: vdr is quite advanced.
[18:18] <escott> scorinitron, 11.10 or 11.04
[18:18] <scorinitron> 11.10
[18:18] <Kimble> Ampelbein: looking at it now. Thank you.
[18:19] <jen__> how do i get music onto my ipod from gtkpod? anyone know? anyone
[18:19] <arcsky> teddie: how should i do it then?
[18:19] <escott> scorinitron, you probably want a gtk3 theme not gtk2 (i dont know much about xubuntu but the base system is not gtk3) it may also be ~/.themes
[18:19] <breakdown> how to install fuckin gta san andreas without wine?=D
[18:19] <escott> !language | breakdown
[18:20] <scorinitron> escott, ok...so there is no way for me to install a gtk2 theme?
[18:20] <Phr3d13> breakdown: is there a linux version?
[18:20] <teddie> arcsky, just take more time with the lines? and align the text properly
[18:20] <escott> scorinitron, you should be able to install a gtk2 theme, but many apps are converted to gtk3 at this point
[18:21] <scorinitron> escott,  Thanks...now just to make sure I'm doing it right, all i have to do is extract the theme and put it into the ~/ .theme folder
[18:21] <Exxon> ice cold now :))
[18:21] <Ampelbein> jen__: http://www.gtkpod.org/wiki/Getting_started
[18:22] <escott> Dante___, if you are installing individual debs to your system make sure they are updated and compatible with the version of ubuntu you are running
[18:22] <ntr0py> How would i create .npmrc for a local npm setup after i installed npm from chris lea's ppa for ubuntu natty?
[18:22] <Exxon> escott, wny downgrade any specifiy reason for it
[18:23] <scorinitron> escott: Thank You Dood!
[18:23] <escott> Exxon, ?
[18:24] <jen__> okay i have it installed it just wont sync music :(
[18:24] <Dante___> escott , yes they are for my system , i just backed them up using aptoncd .... and has just reinstalled my system and was reinstalling the packages ...
[18:24] <Exxon> escott, may by i read the post its already sky high please correct me
[18:24] <safu> eeyyy
[18:25] <safu> guys r ya alive?
[18:25] <xangua> jen__: what ubuntu versión, what iOS version¿
[18:25] <codeshah> hey guys, on my ubuntu server, php is being downloaded instead of being shown…
[18:25] <Phr3d13> safu: do you have a question?
[18:26] <safu> ph nofn dude
[18:26] <safu> im js new hea\
[18:26] <jen__> xangua, oneiric and its just apple ipodtouch 4th gen
[18:26] <safu> whot chat room s ths?
[18:26] <Phr3d13> Ubuntu support
[18:26] <oCean> safu: this is ubuntu technical support, not social chat. also read the topic
[18:26] <safu> owwww
[18:27] <safu> how to get nimbuzz in ubuntu?
[18:27] <Exxon> codeshah, are you using terminal or gui
[18:27] <luis__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/751702/
[18:27] <safu> without using wine>
[18:27] <codeshah> Exxon, what do you mean? I meant sorry that php files are being downloaded in browser instead of processed
[18:27] <yeats> codeshah: it's probably permissions - I don't remember exactly how they need to be set for php to work
[18:27] <codeshah> yeats: oh ok
[18:27] <lahwran> hey everyone, I'm looking for an image viewer that allows me to tag images and to search by tag
[18:27] <xangua> jen__: what iOS version, can you mount your iphone¿
[18:27] <safu> cn nybdy help me vth that>?
[18:28] <oCean> codeshah: you mean on your own webserver? Running apache? Do you have php5 module enabled?
[18:28] <Phr3d13> safu: Is there a linux version?
[18:28] <escott> lahwran, i think shotwell can do that
[18:28] <safu> i dn thnk nimbuzz has
[18:28] <oCean> safu: better try to start using proper English first
[18:28] <codeshah> oCean: yes, but let me look at everything again
[18:28] <jen__> xangua,  i have no idea im not an apple fan to be honest
[18:28] <lahwran> escott: okay, I guess I'll try that. shotwell seems rather slow, though
[18:28] <safu> it has both windows n mac version
[18:28] <oCean> codeshah: try to run   sudo a2enmod php5
[18:28] <MeQuerSat> lahwran, take a look at Shotwell
[18:28] <luis__> hello, i have a question posted on pastebin. here's the link. http://paste.ubuntu.com/751702/ thanks
[18:29] <Phr3d13> safu: then you'll probably need wine
[18:29] <safu> owk ocean js teach me how
[18:29] <oCean> codeshah: that should symlink the /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5  then be sure to restart apache
[18:29] <jen__> does wine to itunes?
[18:29] <iceroot> !appdb | jen__
[18:29] <xangua> jen__: no
[18:29] <codeshah> k
[18:29] <safu> yo thnx ohr bro
[18:29] <safu> [phr*
[18:29] <jen__> gah! all i need is itunes :(
[18:30] <escott> jen__, virtualbox
[18:30] <jal> has anybody got info on slow restart from suspend mode for oneiric?
[18:30] <jen__> its on my virtualbox but I cant get it to mount my ipod :(
[18:30] <inashdeen> hi, is there a way to run kazam on ubuntu 11.10
[18:30] <Phr3d13> jen__: install wine, then install the windows version of itunes
[18:30] <codeshah> ah, its for something that is using CGI
[18:30] <safu> is there any chatroom software in  ubuntu?
[18:30] <Exxon> oCean, `read what he really wants
[18:31] <luis__> safu I'm using XChat-GNOME irc
[18:31] <safu> owww yhnx lui
[18:31] <lahwran> xchat-gnome is seriously dumbed down, I recommend vanilla xchat
[18:31] <safu> thnx*
[18:32] <jen__> wich wine do i instll?
[18:32] <luis__> really lahwran? i was looking for a replacement
[18:32] <luis__> i can't even list the channels properly
[18:32] <safu> vanilla?
[18:32] <lahwran> yes, just "xchat"
[18:32] <Logan_> sudo apt-get install xchat
[18:32] <Logan_> plain and simple
[18:32] <Exxon> oCean, php5 ..:(( lava
[18:33] <luis__> as i said if anyone can help with a hibernation issue, i have a question posted on pastebin. here's the link. http://paste.ubuntu.com/751702/ thanks
[18:33] <lane> anybody know of an algorithm that's significantly faster for generating prime numbers than the sieve of eratosthenes?
[18:33] <fabioqc> hey peoples! new to lubuntu. I just did a minimal install from CD, once at the CLI i did sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[18:33] <fabioqc> im having trouble opening synaptic packet manager. it's not accepting my password.
[18:33] <fabioqc> its asking for the "administrative" password
[18:33] <oCean> Exxon: what are you talking about?
[18:33] <escott> lane, most prime number generation of large prime is done by probabilistic testing
[18:33] <Exxon> oCean, php5 ..:(( i can help you with java ..not with php..
[18:34] <abonec> hello, is there way to install gcc3.3.6 alongside latest?
[18:34] <oCean> Exxon: what are you talking about?
[18:34] <jen__> theres so many wines which one do I install for itunes?
[18:34] <francio> hello to all. how do I change the open file limits into ubuntu server?
[18:34] <Phr3d13> jen__: its been a bit since i've been able to get into my ubuntu box, try the latest in the repo
[18:34] <teddie> jen__, try the newest version of wine
[18:34] <lane> escott, i'm really just looking for a way of quickly generating a comprehensive list of relatively small primes (under 40 bits or so)
[18:34] <jen__> which is?
[18:34] <llutz> Exxon: pls stop your random nonsense if you don't have any ubuntu support-related stuff to say/ask
[18:35] <teddie> jen__, go find out? wine website.. wine wikipedia page
[18:35] <MeQuerSat> llee, youre out of place
[18:35] <escott> lane, mathomatic has a matho-primes utility, but the sieve is your best bet if you need a comprehensive list
[18:35] <Phr3d13> jen__: search the software center for wine and pick the one with the highest version number
[18:35] <MeQuerSat> llutz* I meant
[18:36] <luispotro> lahwran i'm lui___ and now i'm testing the xchat vanilla, it's better!
[18:36] <lane> escott, okay.  thanks.
[18:37] <luispotro> i'm needing help with a hibernation issue. here's the log
[18:37] <luispotro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/751702/
[18:38] <scorinitron> I just came across a big prob...
[18:38] <scorinitron> Error stating file '/home/user/.gvfs': Transport endpoint is not connected.
[18:38] <scottj> how do I turn off the circles around cursor that happens when ctrl is pressed?
[18:39] <scottj> nm found it
[18:39] <qmanjr5> I'm confused as to what I should be downloading themes for, if any. Gnome or Unity...
[18:40] <qmanjr5> 'cause when I go to appearance settings>themes>get more online, it brings me to a Gnome site
[18:40] <qmanjr5> but I'm using Unity2D
[18:40] <escott> qmanjr5, unity is based on gnome
[18:40] <qmanjr5> So I'm downloading themes for Gnome?
[18:40] <scottj> I took a hard drive from a system with nvidia card and put it in a laptop with an ati card. how to install restricted ati drivers? if I install ubuntu from scratch on this system then restricted drivers app lets me install them, but on this install from an nvidia machine it's saying it can't find suitable driver
[18:41] <Killaz> join #confidencialpt
[18:41] <xangua> qmanjr5: yes, unity runs on top og nome3
[18:41] <xangua> gnome3*
[18:41] <dell> who
[18:41] <luispotro> i'm needing help with a hibernation issue. here's the log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/751702/
[18:42] <blz> Hello!  I have a bunch of files I'd in a directory and I'd like to add a short string to the beginning of each of their filenames.  How should I go about doing this?
[18:42] <escott> qmanjr5, you want gtk themes and that will theme the applications and buttons but not the unity specific elements like the unity panel. you don't want gnome-shell themes
[18:42] <scorinitron> For some reason I can't access the home folder I keep getting this error ls -l /home/
[18:43] <scorinitron> I already tried a DiskChk but that isn't coming up with anythign
[18:43] <escott> blz, the rename utility (a perl script that is apt-get installable) will allow you to use a regular expression on the files
[18:43] <llutz> blz: rename 's/(.*)/addedtext$1/' *
[18:43] <blz> llutz, great thank you!
[18:45] <luispotro> i'm needing help with a hibernation issue. here's the log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/751702/
[18:45] <scorinitron> NM I got it went to the terminal and unmounted .gvfs
[18:45] <scorinitron> with sudo umount ~/.gvfs
[18:45] <scorinitron> thanks anyway...
[18:47] <luispotro> i'm needing help with a hibernation issue. here's the log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/751702/
[18:49] <pconwell> who was I talking to yesterday about virtualization?
[18:49] <Gentoo64> asking whats better out of kvm or vbox?
[18:50] <pconwell> not exactly, but since we are on the topic, what is your opinion?
[18:50] <scorinitron> how would I install the GTK2 theme engine?
[18:50] <Gentoo64> pconwell, i used vbox its good
[18:50] <scorinitron> the terminal commands I'm getting don't work
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> hey guys, if you wget a web page from a web server and the server has a counter for hits on the page. Does the server register a hit if I use wget?
[18:51] <pconwell> Gentoo64: yeah, I've used vboxHeadless in the past with good results, but I've never used anything else, so I don't know how it compares
[18:51] <xangua> scorinitron: most gtk apps on oneiric doesn't use gtk2
[18:51] <pconwell> ActionParsnip: I would assume it depends on *how* they count hits
[18:51] <Gentoo64> pconwell, me neither. i used vmware ages ago but much prefer vbox
[18:51] <scorinitron> hmmm...so I should just abandon the theme I want...
[18:51] <h4ckr-wall> Hello ...
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> pconwell: just trying to screw with distrowatch after all this "ubuntu is dying" malarky :)
[18:52] <scorinitron> it's not compatible  just look for something else?
[18:52] <escott> scorinitron, look for a gtk3 version of it
[18:52] <oCean> ActionParsnip: that probably differs per counter. The weblogs usually see the difference, but no idea what the counter shows
[18:52] <pconwell> ActionParsnip: yeah, I have no idea, but I would think it depends on if they are using some script or something vs just couning pings
[18:52] <llutz> ActionParsnip: you can not speed up a dying horse :)
[18:52] <Gentoo64> ActionParsnip, i havent read that, but its true everyones hating unity and the reinstalls because of broken updates
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> oCean: I'll give it a go
[18:52] <oCean> :)
[18:52] <luispotro> i'm needing help with a hibernation issue. here's the log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/751702/
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> Gentoo64: I don't mind it and it got a lot of votes in a recent poll
[18:53] <pconwell> Gentoo64: you know, unity sucked at first, but it's grown on me
[18:53] <Gentoo64> What I'm saying it the reviews have gone down since gnome 2 is gone
[18:53] <Gentoo64> now ubuntu is just know for unity
[18:54] <Gentoo64> and how bad it is
[18:54] <pconwell> Gentoo64: true, but they will come back up once ubuntu gets the kinks worked out and people get used to unity
[18:54] <Gentoo64> im not ranting btw
[18:54] <zykotick9> pconwell, i doubt that
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> pconwell: i'm gonna setup a cron'd job to once every 10 mins to download the page to /dev/null, see if it makes the stats a bit screwy, gonna choose a really obscure distro too.
[18:54] <pconwell> unity *did* suck, to be honest, but I have to say it is much much improved in the past months
[18:54] <pconwell> ActionParsnip: opera or something has an auto refresh feature
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> Gentoo64: there are other desktops to use, there is more than gnome
[18:54] <scorinitron> great...there's only 2 gtk3 themes for xfce...that sucks
[18:55] <scorinitron> :(
[18:55] <_pr0t0type_> Hey guys, is there any way to determine how much HDD space is alloted for a user (non-root)?  If there is no quota set, are we to assume that all of the diskspace is available to that particular user?
[18:55] <Dj_FlyBy>  any good software recommendations for a complete Ubuntu Media Server (abilities to stream to PS3, DLNA devices, Windows boxes, other Ubuntu boxes and smartphones) ??
[18:55] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip, what you are setting out to do is rather deceitful...
[18:55] <escott> ActionParsnip, everyone knows those stats are meaningless. its really childish to do what you are proposing
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> pconwell: hmm, maybe chrome has similar
[18:55] <xangua> scorinitron: gnome-look.org
[18:55] <Gentoo64> ActionParsnip, of course, but its the default in the default ubuntu. btw i think theyd catch on to your ip and ban it
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: its showing that the stat collection thing is a farce
[18:55] <Gentoo64> or discard to results maybe
[18:55] <escott> _pr0t0type_, yes without a quote everything is available
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> Gentoo64: default doesn't hold a lot of water inLinux, its very changable
[18:56] <pconwell> _pr0t0type_: I don't know off the top of my head, but I put /home in it's own partition, so there is that limit
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> Gentoo64: we'll see, could be interesting
[18:56] <escott> scorinitron, its possible that the xfce panels are still gtk2 check with ldd. but many applications (like nautilus) are gtk3 based
[18:56] <Jovaro> I use 11.10 and programs that crash are automaticly restarted. Does someone know how to disable that? I am in a loop with a constantly crashing program....
[18:56] <_pr0t0type_> escott: ahh, I see, thanks.
[18:56] <llutz> ActionParsnip: it is a farce, everybody knows that. so why do you care?
[18:56] <h4ckr-wall> #BlackBuntu#
[18:57] <teddie> holy crap mint has surpassed ubuntu on distrowatch!!
[18:57] <celthunder> Jovaro: kill -9 <pid> and remove it from cron or whatever is starting it?
[18:57] <_pr0t0type_> escott: yeah, df -H gives me 96G on /home, which is more than I need.  Thanks buddy
[18:57] <pconwell> _pr0t0type_: is this what you are looking for http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-setup-disk-quotas-in-ubuntu.html
[18:57] <zykotick9> !upnp | Dj_FlyBy
[18:57] <pconwell> teddie: I really don't like mint. I don't know why, but I just don't
[18:58] <Jovaro> celthunder, that doesn't work. I don't know what is starting it, maybe something in Gnome-shell? Or something else?
[18:58] <_pr0t0type_> pconwell: thanks for that, I'll read it although I'm not looking into setting up a quota :D
[18:58] <teddie> pconwell, it feels natural clean and fresh in my opinion
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> llutz: i have nothing better to do with my CPU, its idle about 99% of the time
[18:58] <teddie> Although, that's just the word association :p
[18:58] <pconwell> ubottu: yeah, I just switched from uShare to Mediatomb.
[18:58] <pconwell> d'oh
[18:58] <celthunder> Jovaro: what's crashing is it a dependency for something or like a panel you have?
[18:58] <oCean> teddie: pconwell, let's move back to the ubuntu topic, please
[18:59] <sskniranjan> howt to set password for guest session
[18:59] <escott> Jovaro, any applications listed in the session will be restarted (like nautilus for example)
[18:59] <pconwell> _pr0t0type_: okay, my bad. I misunderstood what you were asking
[18:59] <Jovaro> celthunder, It is mythtv-frontend
[18:59] <memeemeee> I asked this in #kubuntu but not getting an answer. thought i'd try here:  I installed my ubuntu 11.10 system with a separate partition for / and  /home if I install kubuntu on the / partition will it work with the /home partition automatically?
[18:59] <Jovaro> escott, mythtv-frontend shouldn't be listed in session I think, but where can I check?
[18:59] <llutz> ActionParsnip: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_distributed_computing_projects    better to support one of these ;)
[18:59] <pconwell> memeemeee: it *should*
[19:00] <celthunder> Jovaro: ps f see what's running it?
[19:00] <escott> Jovaro, gnome-session-properties will list the optional things in the session
[19:00] <pconwell> memeemeee: just make sure to not format /home
[19:00] <pconwell> when reinstalling
[19:00] <memeemeee> pconwell: thanks
[19:00] <zykotick9> Jovaro, your mythfrontend respawns automatically?  i've never seen that before, and had it crash lots.  how are you starting mythfrontend?
[19:00] <zoose__> hello what is the  ubuntu one channel #ubuntuone right?
[19:01] <zykotick9> zoose__, yup
[19:01] <Jovaro> zykotick9, I use gnome-shell and just started it by clicking on the icon
[19:01] <Gentoo64> zoose__, you could just try it :)
[19:01] <pconwell> memeemeee: when you install kubunut, you will have to do the manual partition manager. Make sure to select "use this partion as /home" and "do not format"
[19:01] <Jovaro> escott, it is not in the session
[19:01] <zoose__> thanks zykotick9
[19:01] <dr_willis> installing to his home partition.. it will want to reformat it..
[19:01] <dr_willis> if hes moving / to /home that is..
[19:01] <celthunder> Jovaro: ps f and it should give you a tree view of what's running what
[19:01] <zykotick9> Jovaro, that seems strange to me, i've never had it respawn - well good luck.
[19:01] <dj_who> Hi, All .
[19:01] <celthunder> dj_who: hi
[19:01] <dr_willis> night all..
[19:02] <pconwell> dr_willis: no, he is installing kubuntu to / over ubuntu and keeping his old /home
[19:02] <celthunder> pconwell: why not just install KDE
[19:02] <pconwell> celthunder: I don't konw, ask memeemeee
[19:02] <celthunder> pconwell: and remove gnome/crap
[19:02] <dj_who> mayby today is here someone that can help me?
[19:02] <Jovaro> have to go, will try to fix it some other time, thanks for helping all
[19:02] <dj_who> with
[19:02] <dj_who> http://paste.ubuntu.com/751737/
[19:02] <dj_who> i would be gratefull
[19:03] <memeemeee> i could install kde over ubuntu 11.10 but was lead to believe kubuntu had other optimizations for use with kde
[19:03] <celthunder> memeemeee: like what
[19:03] <escott> memeemeee, kubuntu is nothing but kubuntu-desktop installed on top of ubuntu-minimal
[19:03] <celthunder> memeemeee: kde is kde you can optimize/deoptimize it all you want
[19:03] <Gentoo64> memeemeee, kubuntu will be cleaner
[19:04] <celthunder> Gentoo64: how so?
[19:04] <Gentoo64> as in junk folders etc
[19:04] <bucky> memeemeee, you have to tell the installer to use that existing partition for /home and NOT format it
[19:04] <escott> memeemeee, you could just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and you will have kde, the only difference is that you will still have all the gnome stuff as well
[19:05] <memeemeee> and the junk that i'd be holding onto by keeping my /home directory is the same junk i end up with kubuntu-desktop above gnome?
[19:06] <celthunder> memeemeee: yeah all your  custom crap is in ~/ anyway ls -al to view all the files just remove the .<whatever> stuff related to your gnome apps
[19:06] <escott> memeemeee, the junk in your home is just configuration stuff. if you are running kde the gnome config files in $HOME will be ignored anyways, but yes
[19:06] <memeemeee> that would be easier. unity is driving me crazy
[19:06] <celthunder> memeemeee: to remove the actual apps just remove gnome and gnome-extra or whatever ubuntu calls it
[19:07] <memeemeee> right. i can do that. like i said, i thought that kubuntu had other stuff too
[19:07] <en1gma> does wireshark come with 11.10 dvd or cd?
[19:07] <kurisu> hi guys is it possible to use compiz with 11.10 & gnome 3
[19:07] <kurisu> ?
[19:07] <escott> memeemeee, kubuntu-desktop gets you all of kubuntu. you will just have extra programs and libraries that are gnome/unity specific
[19:07] <jen__> if I download itunes can I set it up with wine?
[19:08] <escott> kurisu, unity uses compiz. gnome-shell does not
[19:08] <memeemeee> great. thanks so much gang!
[19:08] <Gentoo64> en1gma, in the repos, but not default
[19:08] <zykotick9> jen__, i don't think itunes in wine can connect to ipods (but certainly could be wrong)
[19:08] <en1gma> crap that sucks
[19:08] <SuRF666> hello
[19:08] <Gentoo64> why cant you download it?
[19:08] <Gentoo64> wireshark is a net tool after all lol
[19:09] <kurisu> escott: oh
[19:09] <Gentoo64> backtrack has it on livecd
[19:09] <en1gma> well basically im running tshark on my router and wireshark on my computer usb stick
[19:09] <kurisu> is there any way to make it use compiz?
[19:09] <escott> kurisu, no
[19:09] <en1gma> i dont want to have to downlaod and install it everytime i boot into live cd enviroment
[19:09] <kurisu> damn
[19:09] <ZeitFight> Hello! I have a tv that only supports 1366x768 resolution. The thing is that I can't choose 1366x768, only 1360x768 is available. Is it possible to change the screen settings to get 1366x768?
[19:09] <Gentoo64> en1gma, backtrack has it on the default livecd
[19:09] <en1gma> wireshark should be inc on the dvd at least
[19:09] <celthunder> kurisu: gnome 3 uses it's own window management compiz isn't really needed anymore
[19:10] <en1gma> yea i have bt5 iso right now (thats how im doing it currently) but the kernels are old
[19:10] <kurisu> .... partly blind and need the colour filters that compiz provides
[19:10] <Gentoo64> en1gma, no point tbh, will only make the dvd bigger and no one needs it
[19:10] <celthunder> ZeitFight: if it's not an nvidia card xrandr
[19:10] <en1gma> wireshark is a network tool...more important then nmap
[19:10] <en1gma> nmap is inc isnt it
[19:10] <Gentoo64> en1gma, does it _have_ to be a newer kernel? BTs kernel isnt major old (afaik)
[19:10] <Gentoo64> en1gma, i dont think ubuntus livecd has many net tools like that included
[19:10] <kurisu> is there an alternative I can use>
[19:10] <celthunder> en1gma: nmap isn't included but yeah wireshark is awesome that mixed with tcpdump etc
[19:10] <en1gma> im really wanting kernel 3.1 as it includeds native suppport for my usb wifi adapter
[19:10] <Gentoo64> thats what BT is designed for
[19:10] <escott> kurisu, if the high contrast mode doesnt do enough for you then use unity and compiz. there is also an accessibility channel for ubuntu they may have other suggestions
[19:11] <kurisu> oh right
[19:11] <kurisu> whats the channel please?
[19:11] <Gentoo64> en1gma, im not sure how but i know its possible, what about installing ubuntu to a usb stick?
[19:11] <en1gma> with BT i made a custom iso....does ubuntu have a script that does this too?
[19:11] <Gentoo64> yeah
[19:11] <Phr3d13> jen__: banshee (the media player) reports that it works with ipods, have you tried that?
[19:11] <Gentoo64> again im not sure, i think it might be remastersys
[19:12] <en1gma> i think i need make a custom iso
[19:12] <escott> kurisu, #ubuntu-accessibility
[19:12] <kurisu> thanks
[19:15] <kurisu> or is there a way to get gnome 2 in 11.10
[19:15] <dado13> ciaoo
[19:15] <Gentoo64> kurisu, no
[19:15] <kurisu> right.....
[19:15] <Gentoo64> dado13, :)
[19:15] <kurisu> guess I'm going back to 11.04
[19:15] <kurisu> :(
[19:16] <kurisu> .... hope the install doesn't break again
[19:16] <sskniranjan> how to set password for the guest session
[19:17] <cryptk> hello all, I am wondering if there is any official documentation on backporting a package
[19:17] <cryptk> or if there are recommended tools... way back in the day on Debian I used pbuilder, is that still the norm?
[19:18] <cryptk> granted, I am planning to backport an Ubuntu package, but I figure if pbuilder works for Deb, it should work for Ubu
[19:19] <mamece2> i have a problema, i need to install ubuntu in a HD and i cant boot from a live usb, i get boot error when i try to boot from usb
[19:20] <jen__> virtualbox wont recognize my itouch, what should I do? itunes is installed and everything, last install of natty I had it worked :(
[19:20] <celthunder> mamece2: use a cd/dvd? install the installer to a small partition on the drive?
[19:20] <Gentoo64> jen__, have you definately enabled the usb device in vbx?
[19:20] <jen__> Gentoo64, how do you do that?
[19:20] <celthunder> mamece2: and what boot error do you get
[19:21] <devslash> I'm installing ubuntu in virtual box and I assigned the VM 2GB of ram. how much swap space do i really need ?
[19:21] <Gentoo64> jen__, in the vbox windows at the bottom, youll see a little usb icon, click that and enable the itouch
[19:21] <devslash> do i need more than 1 GB of swap
[19:21] <Gentoo64> devslash, you prob wont even _need_ swap, but use whatever
[19:21] <jen__> okay
[19:21] <mamece2> celthunder: boot error and a blinkin cursor
[19:21] <celthunder> devslash: depends how much ram you have?
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> en1gma: use 12.04 and you'll get it
[19:21] <celthunder> mamece2: what did you use to make the usb?
[19:21] <devslash> celthunder: 2GB for the VM
[19:22] <celthunder> devslash: what're you doing in it?
[19:22] <en1gma> ActionParsnip 12.04?
[19:22] <en1gma> where is that at?
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> Gentoo64: 2Gb swap for 2Gb RAM will be enough
[19:22] <jen__> Gentoo64, it says theres no usb to connect
[19:22] <pconwell> en1gma: alpha 0.001
[19:22] <devslash> celthunder: just getting familiar with ubuntu. nothing too intensive like running a server
[19:22] <jen__> but it IS plugged in
[19:22] <en1gma> O_o hmmm
[19:22] <celthunder> ActionParsnip: depend what he's doing in it anyway....if he uses it normally (aka not compiling loads of stuff recursivly etc) it won't run out
[19:22] <en1gma> what kernel that come with?
[19:22] <pconwell> en1gma: I'm joking
[19:23] <mamece2> celthunder: ive tried unetbootin, startup disk creator, universal usb creator and live linux. Ive tryed formating in windows to FAT32
[19:23] <Gentoo64> jen__, i dont own that device, but if its usb it should show up...
[19:23] <celthunder> devslash: most likely you'd be fine with 0
[19:23] <en1gma> so there is no 12.04 yet?
[19:23] <celthunder> mamece2: yeah that all failed for me too try using dd if you can
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> en1gma: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/  use at your own risk, but it has 3.1 by default
[19:23] <en1gma> wow i want that
[19:23] <mamece2> celthunder: dd?
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> en1gma: its going to be shakey at best, its not even in alpha yet
[19:24] <celthunder> mamece2: you'd need another linux comp to make hte usb stick with dd
[19:24] <Gentoo64> devslash, for general use ubuntu should use anywhere near the full 2gb, but swap wont hurt, give it 512mb or whatever space you can afford
[19:24] <jen__> Gentoo64, yeah i tried it in another port still didnt work :(
[19:24] <mamece2> celthunder: i cant believe something as simple as a usb boot gets so complicated
[19:24] <Gentoo64> jen__, :s not sure then sorry
[19:24] <llutz> celthunder: dd works only with hybrid-iso, *buntu-iso <11.10 weren't
[19:24] <devslash> Gentoo64: the VM has a total of 12GB
[19:25] <Dj_FlyBy> zykotick9: yes but I am also looking to stream it to smart phones, and dlna devices.
[19:25] <devslash> so i can spare 512mb for swap
[19:25] <jen__> Gentoo64,  its okay
[19:25] <inashdeen> hi, is there a way to run kazam on ubuntu 11.10?
[19:25] <en1gma> wow so that is unstable?
[19:25] <oCean> jen__: have you added a filter for usb device?
[19:25] <Gentoo64> devslash, well give it 2gb  just for the sake of it
[19:25] <devslash> if i do that, is 10GB enough space for ubuntu ?
[19:25] <jen__> oCean, what would that do and how? it never shows up for virtualbox
[19:25] <celthunder> llutz: was just an idea
[19:25] <Gentoo64> devslash, yeah
[19:25] <Gentoo64> more than enough
[19:25] <oCean> jen__: in vbox manager, select the machine and hit 'settings'
[19:26] <jen__> oCean, okay
[19:26] <devslash> Gentoo64: i don't want to worry about running out of space later on ..
[19:26] <Gentoo64> devslash, 10gb youll be able to install quite a lot on
[19:26] <oCean> jen__: then choose USB, and you probably find that you can add "filters" for USB devices there
[19:26] <celthunder> memeemeee: cd/dvd, try dd on the usb (use the iso lluls mentioned i guess), or pull it out put the hdd in another comp etc....
[19:26] <zykotick9> Dj_FlyBy, i don't have any experience / suggestions for that sorry, good luck.
[19:26] <Gentoo64> devslash, youll probably get used to it and end up install it proper anyway :)
[19:26] <jen__> oCean,  yeah i added one filter
[19:26] <celthunder> memeemeee: could also make a small partitio non the hdd and install it to that and make it boot from the hdd to install but you're then stuck with it
[19:27] <oCean> jen__: just now, or you already had?
[19:27] <jen__> oCean, just now
[19:27] <devslash> i don't do that any more since my main computer is a macbook and installing linux is possible using bootcamp but a bit tricky with partitioning
[19:27] <Gentoo64> afaik its the same as choosing the device from the usb icon no?
[19:27] <oCean> jen__: ok, that should grant passthrough from your usb device from the host to the client
[19:27] <mamece2> i have a problem, i need to install ubuntu in a HD and i cant boot from a live usb, i get boot error when i try to boot from usb
[19:27] <oCean> Gentoo64: I'm not sure
[19:27] <mamece2> ive tried unetbootin, startup disk creator, universal usb creator and live linux. Ive tried formating in windows to FAT32
[19:28] <Gentoo64> oCean, i think its just so it mounts it at boot
[19:28] <Gentoo64> rather than manually having to keep enabling it
[19:28] <brontosaurusrex> mamece2, what usb disk is it? (i couldnt get a bootable wd for example)
[19:28] <oCean> Gentoo64: no, I really have to create a filter before I can use the device in the guest
[19:28] <Gentoo64> jen__, maybe the device is in use? idk what else to suggest
[19:28] <Gentoo64> oCean, ah opk
[19:28] <Gentoo64> ok
[19:28] <mamece2> i have a kingston 4 GB and a 2Gb micro sd with a converter
[19:29] <mamece2> brontosaurusrex: both of them faileed
[19:29] <paolo> hi
[19:29] <Gentoo64> hi
[19:29] <brontosaurusrex> mamece2, whats the error?
[19:29] <devslash> Gentoo64: i know it doesn't matter but as a general practice, is it a good idea to have root as hda1 and swap hda2 or vice versa
[19:29] <inashdeen> bump
[19:29] <mamece2> brontosaurusrex:  just BOOT ERROR
[19:29] <Gentoo64> devslash, put root on 1 just to be neat lol
[19:30] <celthunder> devslash: depends on the rest of your partitions
[19:30] <brontosaurusrex> mamece2, what os is installed now, and does that boot?
[19:30] <devslash> celthunder: this is a VM so i don't have any partitions
[19:31] <mamece2> i have ubuntu 11 right now
[19:31] <mamece2> brontosaurusrex:
[19:31] <Gentoo64> devslash, if it were me, id just give ubuntu 1 big / partition and sue that
[19:31] <brontosaurusrex> and that will boot just fine?
[19:31] <devslash> Gentoo64: you mean without any swap ?
[19:31] <Gentoo64> devslash, i wouldnt bother with swap. i run every one of my vms with 2gb ram no swap
[19:31] <Gentoo64> and 1 / partition
[19:32] <jen__> hey I think i got somthing!
[19:33] <devslash> Gentoo64 ok but if shit gets wonky I'm gonna come back and give you crap about it
[19:33] <devslash> :)
[19:33] <Gentoo64> lol
[19:33] <jen__> it says virtualbox is not allowed to access usb devices :(
[19:33] <brontosaurusrex> mamece2, did you try booting that same usb device on another computer?
[19:33] <Gentoo64> jen__, you need vbox extensions
[19:33] <Gentoo64> installed
[19:33] <jen__> Gentoo64, how do i do that?
[19:33] <Gentoo64> that gives it usb2 support
[19:33] <mamece2> brontosaurusrex: yes, the same result, boot error
[19:33] <devslash> I'm excited to use ubuntu again. it used to be my main o.s for a while then I got a mac
[19:33] <Gentoo64> jen__, is it a windows host?
[19:33] <mamece2> brontosaurusrex: these are the two pendrives http://www.freeimagehosting.net/01b92  http://www.freeimagehosting.net/c3086
[19:33] <jen__> Gentoo64, its windows xp
[19:34] <brontosaurusrex> mamece2, does your hash (md5) checks ?
[19:34] <brontosaurusrex> for the iso i mean
[19:34] <mamece2> yes, everything ok
[19:34] <Gentoo64> jen__, download this http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.1.6/Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-4.1.6-74713.vbox-extpack
[19:34] <mamece2> the puppy one 2GB and the ubuntu 10 386 4 GB
[19:34] <bfreis>  hi, I'm running Ubuntu 11.10 (don't know if this makes any difference), which has byobu 4.37-0ubuntu1 and screen 4.0.3-14ubuntu8. I'm having some trouble with colors with byobu. If I open "konsole", the colors look fine. If then I launch screen directly, the colors still look fine. However, when I launch byobu, the colors change! How to fix this?
[19:34] <brontosaurusrex> mamece2, have any other usb disks to try?
[19:34] <Gentoo64> jen__, then go into vbox main preferences, extensions, install extension. choose that file you downloaded
[19:34] <mamece2> brontosaurusrex: wow i just have two..
[19:35] <devslash> Gentoo64: the installer for ubuntu so so much nicer in ubuntu 11. it lets you set time, username/password while the files are being copied. thats smart
[19:35] <Gentoo64> yeah saves time i suppose
[19:35] <Gentoo64> afaik its been like that for ages, lol
[19:35] <brontosaurusrex> mamece2, well, just my experience, i got the boot working with my oldest external drive, something packed into icybox, so ...
[19:35] <jen__> Gentoo64, what do you mean?
[19:35] <devslash> i don't remember it being like that in ubuntu 10s installer
[19:36] <mamece2> brontosaurusrex: so i have 2 usb drives, 3 pcs and i still cannot boot from usb,, amazing
[19:36] <Gentoo64> jen__, download the file from the link i gave you
[19:36] <jen__> Gentoo64, i did that
[19:36] <Gentoo64> ok
[19:36] <Gentoo64> jen__, now go into vbox manager (main window) and preferences at tope left
[19:36] <brontosaurusrex> mamece2, there is something problematic with the specific usb drives or your procedure of making those
[19:37] <urlin2u> mamece2, do you know the out of the bios key prompt at powering on to get a boot from menu like f12 as one example?
[19:37] <jen__> okay
[19:37] <Gentoo64> jen__, now go down to extensions, and there should be a little icon with install extension or add extension or something
[19:37] <Gentoo64> click that, then choose the file you downloaded
[19:37] <Gentoo64> and itll install the
[19:37] <Gentoo64> m
[19:37] <jen__> okay
[19:37] <mamece2> urlin2u: F2 to configure usb to be the first boot drive
[19:38] <urlin2u> mamece2, there is a OUT OF THE BIOS menu as well do you understand this?
[19:38] <zykotick9> Gentoo64, i think the vbox term is "guest additions" vs extensions
[19:38] <Gentoo64> zykotick9, no its the usb extensions
[19:38] <Gentoo64> you have to manually install them on windows
[19:38] <zykotick9> Gentoo64, sorry.
[19:38] <mamece2> urlin2u:  i dont how to get out of the bios menu
[19:38] <Gentoo64> its ok :)
[19:38] <jen__> Gentoo64, theres already one active :(
[19:38] <Gentoo64> jen__, hmm ok :s
[19:39] <Gentoo64> jen__, try removing it, then installing the one you downloaded
[19:39] <Gentoo64> maybe its from an old version maybe idk
[19:39] <jen__> Gentoo64, okay
[19:39] <Gentoo64> i dont even know if itll work, but i know it adds usb2 support
[19:39] <memeemeee> someone at #kubuntu suggested I remove these packages after installing kubuntu-desktop to get back to a pure kubuntu installation. does this look right to y'all? http://pastebin.com/BXUTaYW8
[19:39] <urlin2u> mamece2, out of here means nothing to do with the bios. There is a menu that is a choice of what to boot from gotten with a key prompt, as if you would going to the bios.
[19:40] <Gentoo64> memeemeee, now do you see why installing kubuntu would be cleaner? lol
[19:40] <mamece2> urlin2u: do u mean grub or the boot menu?
[19:40] <jen__> Gentoo64, I think its the same so what do I do now?
[19:40] <Gentoo64> jen__, try it again?
[19:40] <Gentoo64> if it dont work i dont knwo what else to suggest
[19:40] <Gentoo64> :(
[19:41] <TechXplorer> heyy whats up guys
[19:41] <urlin2u> mamece2, niether that is my point you have not heard of this but every computer basically has this option. Most common key used is f12 to see this menu when powering on.
[19:41] <jen__> grrrrrr doesnt say its there :(
[19:41] <Gentoo64> memeemeee, but glancing over it if day it looks legit
[19:41] <Gentoo64> id say*
[19:41] <urlin2u> mamece2, it is a boot menu though, but not in the bios.
[19:42] <urlin2u> mamece2, and not grub.
[19:42] <mamece2> urlin2u: i think F12 on an intel mobo is for booting from network
[19:42] <jen__> gah Ill just use my friends mac T_T
[19:42] <inashdeen> bump
[19:42] <Gentoo64> mamece2, normally f8 but not on all mobos
[19:43] <Gentoo64> actually, i dont know if theres a "normal key" i think its f12 on the dell downstairs
[19:43] <mamece2> Gentoo64: urlin2u: ok so i turn it on and then F8 , then what?
[19:43] <macrobat> What's the name of the (part of the) installer that lets you install ontop of ntfs?
[19:43] <Gentoo64> mamece2, choose the drive to boot from
[19:44] <urlin2u> mamece2, so you have this option though and may be what you need. Often the bios setting of the orderto boot in fails and you have to find the key sequence to get this other menu try looking on the web. Having 3 or 4 usb loaders fail makes it seem more like you need to get to this boot from menu.
[19:44] <norpan> I hold f12 for bootmenu
[19:45] <inashdeen> anyone here knows how to run kazam on oneiric
[19:45] <pikaciu> which display i have to export (with ssh) in order to display,  ad ex. totem, in my win xp ?
[19:46] <mamece2> Gentoo64: urlin2u: but i have set the boot to load the usb ports first.
[19:46] <Gentoo64> mamece2, i think he was saying its failsafe  if you manually choose it
[19:46] <Gentoo64> sometimes it doesnt pick it up for whever reason
[19:46] <urlin2u> mamece2, and often that fails, that us why I mention this other boot menu look on the web.
[19:47] <mamece2> urlin2u:  let me try
[19:49] <urlin2u> inashdeen, here is the ppa. https://launchpad.net/~and471/+archive/kazam-daily-builds
[19:49] <inashdeen> urlin2u : its broken on oneiric :(
[19:49] <urlin2u> inashdeen, never used it myself.
[19:50] <pioppigno> ciao
[19:50] <pioppigno> !ciao
[19:51] <fran> hello
[19:51] <inashdeen> urlin2u : ok, can u suggest an alternative recirder. recordmydesktop and xvid and istanbul produce broken pictures in the video. only kazam so far produce a smooth one
[19:51] <fran> how can I upgrade from my 10.04 to 11.10?
[19:52] <Guest25009> with update-manager -d I get offered 12.04
[19:52] <zykotick9> Guest25009, -d is for development version, which is 12.04 currently
[19:52] <franqc> ohh
[19:52] <urlin2u> inashdeen, not really I have not found one myself when looking, probably is one I just have not seen it. If u=your using a browser firefox has a number of addons that work.
[19:52] <escott> pikaciu, ssh -X should set it up for you, but its usually something like localhost:
[19:53] <escott> pikaciu, localhost:10.0 in mine
[19:53] <franqc> zykotick9, then what should I do?
[19:53] <franqc> zykotick9, -p should?
[19:53] <zykotick9> franqc, fyi you'd have to go 10.04->10.10->11.04->11.10 are your sure clean install isn't an option?
[19:54] <pikaciu> escott:  nothing :(
[19:54] <llutz> pikaciu: do you have a local x-server running?
[19:54] <escott> pikaciu, is your x server on the winxp box working
[19:54] <zykotick9> franqc, or wait the <6 months for 12.04 to be released then it would be 10.04->12.04 or LTS->LTS
[19:54] <franqc> zykotick9, uhm, clean install would be the last choice
[19:55] <mamece2> urlin2u: F8 doesnt work
[19:55] <franqc> ohh
[19:55] <pikaciu> escott:  luutz:  how  can i check ?
[19:55] <escott> pikaciu, run xclock on winxp
[19:55] <urlin2u> mamece2, look on the web for "out of the  bios boot menu (your computer model)"
[19:56] <mamece2> urlin2u: i discover it, i get boot error again
[19:56] <pikaciu> escott:  the cursor blocked  ... nothing
[19:57] <escott> pikaciu, sounds like your x server on windows isnt working properly. fix that first
[19:57] <mamece2> urlin2u: with the puppy image i get a blinkin cursor, with the ubuntu i get boot error
[19:57] <urlin2u> mamece2, so you have mentioned several failed loaders, and formatting, did you reformat for each one?
[19:57] <pikaciu> escott:  thanx a lot ... you are right
[19:57] <mamece2> urlin2u: yes, now the are formated in FAT 32
[19:58] <eXpander> Any girls here?
[19:59] <escott> pikaciu, i realize thats not too helpful, but its not really an ubuntu question at this point
[19:59] <eXpander> cd #archlinux
[19:59] <urlin2u> mamece2, sorry man not sure whats going on all you can do is keep trying I guess
[20:00] <pikaciu> escott:  i know...
[20:00] <pikaciu> bye
[20:00] <eXpander> pikaciu, Ho
[20:00] <pikaciu> yes   ?
[20:00] <eXpander> pikaciu, I am the guru, what is the problem?
[20:00] <projekt26> I got ubuntu now.. what cool things can I do with it?
[20:01] <pikaciu> eXpander : are you indian ?
[20:01] <anarkis> holaa
[20:01] <eXpander> pikaciu, No, I am a gamakashi, I solve all impossible problems
[20:02] <anarkis> alguien habla en español?
[20:02] <escott> !es | anarkis
[20:02] <pikaciu> eXpander : can you find me a job  ?
[20:02] <eXpander> pikaciu, How old are you?
[20:02] <pikaciu> 15
[20:02] <Galvatron> !offtopic|picaciu
[20:02] <eXpander> pikaciu, you already have a job then.
[20:02] <pikaciu> :((((((((((8
[20:02] <Galvatron> !offtopic|eXpander
[20:03] <pikaciu> eXpander : thanx... but it's not an ubuntu question
[20:03] <eXpander> pikaciu, you shold go with Ubuntu questions now. What is your Ubuntu problem?
[20:04] <pikaciu> eXpander : no.. it's depend on a win xp X server (connected by ssh with ubuntu)
[20:04] <inashdeen_> anyone knows where can i get open/free source or creative commons swf games?? wanna show to my bro playing it on gnash ubuntu
[20:05] <eXpander> pikaciu, youw win xp server is connected by an Ubuntu server or what?
[20:05] <pikaciu> eXpander : yer ... ubuntu is the server and xp the client
[20:06] <javier_faj> Hi! Im for weeks with the problem, it's horrible. Wireless connection to internet doesn't work properly. I've tried many things, but can't solve this. someone knows what to do to solve this issue? thanks
[20:07] <devslash> Gentoo64 wow the unity interface is nice...
[20:09] <Galvatron> javier_faj: Give a more detailed description, including hardware and what exactly works wrong.
[20:12] <devslash> wow ubuntu has come a long way
[20:13] <javier_faj> Galvatron,  Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01). Internet connection is not stable. It goes fine some times, then it breaks and I almost can't get anything (spèed in jdonwloader for example goes down to 1000 bytes/s). And can't change that. Sometimes, it works to reconect to the network, I get speed for some time, but only several minutes. Sometimes works to do "sudo iwconfig wlan0 power
[20:13] <javier_faj>  off", but not always. I have windows in a different partition and there everything is fine
[20:13] <javier_faj> Galvatron, in ubuntu 11.10
[20:14] <mamece2> i dont know what else i can do., i need to install ubuntu in a hard drive, any help? WITHOUT using live usb
[20:14] <Exxon> only reading at the moment..:
[20:14] <konam> hi guys
[20:14] <konam> i don't know why but ubuntu login screen takes a couple of seconds to start to receive my text input... even though the login dialog is there and all..
[20:14] <sajt> Hello
[20:15] <konam> is anybody familiar with this issue?
[20:15] <Exxon> konam, ask the channel operator ..we will answer that
[20:16] <thegreyspot> HI! I was having problems wiht my wifi card (signal was way too low) so I did some stuff, but now I dont even see the wireless device in network manager
[20:16] <thegreyspot> I am running ubuntu 11.10
[20:16] <sajt> I can not start the xchat-gnome This write some error messages. This write: XChat CRITICAL *** default event text failed to build! Where can i find some solution for it?
[20:16] <konam> Exxon i don't get it, i described the issue earlier..
[20:16] <thegreyspot> I blacked listed some drivers, however I have removed those again and restarted
[20:16] <konam> Exxon what exactly are you trying to tell me?
[20:16] <bluebomber> Why won't network-manager allow me to edit the details for the default network connection (ifupdown (eth0))?
[20:16] <vergil> thegreyspot: Do you recall what the device was named?
[20:17] <thegreyspot> vergil: Um, I guess not? YOu mean like wlan0?
[20:17] <vergil> thegreyspot: I'd check to see if it still shows in ifconfig. Yes - like wlan0
[20:17] <Exxon> konam, i will simply kicked out of the channel..that's why so mean about it..
[20:17] <inashdeen_> hi, what is the best screencaster for ubuntu
[20:17] <vergil> thegreyspot: You can also use the iw* tools perhaps - iwevent can show you what's going on etc.
[20:17] <guntbert> sajt: in this case I suggest you use xchat instead of xchat-gnome anyway
[20:18] <Error404notfound> I reinstalled Ubuntu 11.10 without doing a proper backup of /var/www/ from my 11.04 install. Any suggestions on data recovery options?
[20:18] <vergil> thegreyspot: I'm assuming you don't get anything back when you try a reboot (I hate suggesting reboots, but this case it might be quickest)
[20:19] <thegreyspot> vergil: Ya iwconfig reports no wireless extensions
[20:19] <thegreyspot> vergil: i have restarted a bunch of times :)
[20:19] <vergil> thegreyspot: That's kind of strange - nothing is coming to mind off the top of my head - do you remember the kernel module that your wireless would want to use?
[20:20] <vergil> thegreyspot: i.e. atheros, broadcom etc.
[20:20] <thegreyspot> vergil: definitely broadcom I have 4313
[20:20] <vergil> thegreyspot: I'd run lsmod to see if you even have the driver loading
[20:21] <vergil> thegreyspot: I don't remember the module name off the top of my head, but you might also try to use modprobe to insert it
[20:21] <Galvatron> javier_faj: Try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1848248 Also type youor adapter's name into Google, becase it seems to be quite a common issue.
[20:21] <vergil> thegreyspot: Something like: sudo modprobe bcm4313  # change the name to match the acutal module
[20:21] <llutz> Error404notfound: theres extundelete, maybe you should try it to recover your stuff, but i doubt you'll get all back. next time, backup backup backup
[20:21] <Galvatron> I mean, quite a lot of problems with that particular chip.
[20:22] <vergil> thegreyspot: Unfortunately I stopped memorizing modules :)
[20:22] <vergil> bbiab
[20:23] <thegreyspot> vergil: I dont see the module in lsmod :/ Its definitely enabled
[20:28] <thegreyspot> vergil: I even installed windows driver with ndiswrapper just to see if i can get it recognized but I still didnt get anything after a restart
[20:28] <thegreyspot> vergil: I want to reload the brcm80211 drivers for the device, just not sure how
[20:29] <thegreyspot> I have installed them through synaptic pgk manager
[20:31] <Exxon> thegreyspot, modprobe ..( the moduleof the wireless card)
[20:32] <b0sf9g7h> simple question, where do i put commands i want to be executed when i open a terminal?
[20:32] <wingnut2626> whats the ubuntu off topic chatroom
[20:32] <b0sf9g7h> like paths, my PS1, etc
[20:32] <b0sf9g7h> i put stuff in .profile and it doesn't get run
[20:32] <thegreyspot> Exxon: I dont see it in lsmod, so where do I get the name of it?
[20:32] <thegreyspot> :/
[20:32] <guntbert> thegreyspot: use     sudo modprobe ....
[20:32] <llutz> b0sf9g7h: ~/.bashrc
[20:32] <Balki_> hi
[20:32] <SkOrPn> can I ask a install question here?
[20:32] <b0sf9g7h> llutz: bashrc already has lots of stuff in it, am i supposed to modify this file? i put my stuff at the bottom?
[20:32] <javier_faj> Galvatron, thanks, I will read it
[20:32] <guntbert> !ot > wingnut2626
[20:33] <llutz> b0sf9g7h: yes
[20:33] <thegreyspot> guntbert: ? I still dont know the name of the module to probe though
[20:34] <Galvatron> !justask|SkOrPn
[20:34] <Balki_> on  ubuntu 11.10  the cpu frequency  scaling indicator does not show up in the panel, somebody ?
[20:34] <guntbert> !broadcom | thegreyspot
[20:34] <Galvatron> Balki_: Unity, GNOME Shell or Classic GNOME ("fallback")?
[20:35] <Balki_> unity
[20:35] <Exxon> thegreyspot, lspci -v paste only the out put of the wireless extenstion..
[20:35] <SkOrPn> can I install ubuntu FROM a windows ICH10R raid 0 array running windows 7, TO a Marvell Sata controller in AHCI mode? Will this work in dual boot mode?
[20:35] <thegreyspot> Exxon: 02:00.2 SD Host controller: JMicron Technology Corp. Standard SD Host Controller (rev 30) (prog-if 01) 	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 3585 	Flags: fast devsel, IRQ 18 	Memory at c1502000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] 	Capabilities: <access denied> 	Kernel modules: sdhci-pci
[20:36] <thegreyspot> sorry, ill t;ry that agian
[20:36] <thegreyspot> Exxon: sorry, here it is: 01:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01) 	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 1795 	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16 	Memory at c2500000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] 	Capabilities: <access denied> 	Kernel driver in use: bcma-pci-bridge 	Kernel modules: wl, bcma, brcmsmac
[20:37] <thegreyspot> Exxon: OK so bcma does list in lsmod, but it has nothing loaded with it
[20:37] <elektrocat> Hey
[20:37] <Exxon> thegreyspot, paste it inside the session that is not accepted..remember that any way..i will accepted that.
[20:37] <Galvatron> Balki_: http://www.google.pl/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=unity+cpu+scaling+indicator&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest
[20:37] <thegreyspot> Exxon: thought it was short enough, Ill keep it in mind :)
[20:39] <elektrocat> Easy question coming: Windows on first disk /dev/sda. Linux will be installed on second disk /dev/sdb. Last time i installed i messed up my windows boot..So, is it ok to install boot loader to /dev/sdb?so i can run linux with selecting hard disks..i don't want to dual boot..i just want to run linux with selecting harddisks..or should i install it to /dev/sdb1
[20:39] <Exxon> thegreyspot, this could could be stupid of me but here no number to module that has been loaded..can you pls tell me what laptop or pc are you using..to make my self famililar with the vendor and finding it from the website
[20:40] <thegreyspot> Exxon HP Pavilion dv4 4141US
[20:40] <lucas-arg> whats the best usb dvb tv for ubuntu??
[20:40] <bekks> !hcl  lucas-arg
[20:40] <bekks> !hcl | lucas-arg
[20:40] <Exxon> thegreyspot, on my way...:))
[20:40] <lucas-arg> thanks bekks
[20:41] <thegreyspot> I Do have : "bcma                   19571  0 " in lsmod if that helps
[20:41] <einand> Who shall i complain to if i got issued with the swedish leder of ubuntu
[20:41] <thegreyspot> Exxon: You are too kind :)
[20:41] <bastidrazor> einand: #ubuntu-ops maybe
[20:42] <guntbert> einand: #ubuntu-irc
[20:43] <Exxon> thegreyspot, do you know that the model number there are three of them
[20:43] <Exxon> thegreyspot, see under the laptop you will find it
[20:44] <tripelb> A'noon. Is there a default "account and password" that I am supposed to know to run 11.04 ??  I have a macbook, liveCD, it starts up just fine, the disk-integrity checks, it connect to the internet, FF starts,  BOOM, it bounces to a login page where I have to provide the account name and password.
[20:45] <thegreyspot> Exxon:  are you sure? 4341us should only be one with broadcom. And i Kid you not there is not sticker under the laptop, only windows
[20:45] <thegreyspot> I dont even know where i would get the service tag! so weird
[20:45] <CrustyBarnacle> tripelb: the username and password you entered during install. ?
[20:46] <tripelb> thegreyspot, arent those things somewhere in the systme
[20:46] <KiLliNdAtHoE> Faggot
[20:46] <tripelb> CrustyBarnacle, it's a liveCD, there's no name and password needed because it boots right up.
[20:46] <tripelb> CrustyBarnacle, that
[20:46] <Exxon> thegreyspot, any way lspci -v paste me to www.pastebin.com and paste the url link..
[20:46] <b0sf9g7h> llutz: how do i make these environment variables available everywhere, not just bash terminals? for example they aren't set when i start vim
[20:46] <tripelb> CrustyBarnacle, that's the first login screen I see.
[20:46] <b0sf9g7h> basically where do i set environment variables
[20:46] <b0sf9g7h> that's my question
[20:47] <llutz> b0sf9g7h: /etc/environment
[20:47] <b0sf9g7h> what about as my own user?
[20:47] <b0sf9g7h> i shouldn't need root
[20:47] <thegreyspot> Exxon: http://pastebin.com/dhdf5Vg3
[20:47] <bekks> b0sf9g7h: ~/.bashrc e.g.
[20:47] <llutz> b0sf9g7h: ~/.bashrc or ~/.profile (for login-shells)    are the files
[20:48] <CrustyBarnacle> tripelb: You shouldn't be seeing a login screen...
[20:48] <Phr3d13> How do I get the size of the files in a folder via terminal commands?
[20:48] <pikaciu> bye
[20:48] <llutz> Phr3d13: du -sxh
[20:49] <Exxon> thegreyspot, Kernel modules: wl, bcma, brcmsmac
[20:49] <KiLliNdAtHoE> What is the value of a black man?
[20:49] <llutz> !ops  | KiLliNdAtHoE
[20:49] <Exxon> thegreyspot, modprobe  wl, bcma, brcmsmac
[20:50] <Phr3d13> llutz: ty
[20:50] <KiLliNdAtHoE> The value of a black man is determined by the size of his gentalia.
[20:50] <thegreyspot> Exxon: It says fatal not found
[20:50] <zykotick9> tripelb, for default livecd, try "ubuntu" as username, with a blank password.
[20:50] <aeon-ltd> ...
[20:51] <Exxon> thegreyspot,  iwconfig
[20:52] <ayrton__> how do i update mesa to 7.11?
[20:52] <CrustyBarnacle> tripelb: What release are you booting? (Natty?)
[20:52] <Exxon> thegreyspot, is it wlan0 or something else
[20:52] <Phr3d13> Are there any other ways? I can't use that command
[20:52] <tripelb> CrustyBarnacle, exactly. (((It's 11.04)))  There shouldnt be one. What's up? What could be happening to cause that? I checked the disk. That leaves the mac. and gremlins. ((thanks zykotick9 good suggestion. I tried some other words with a blank but not ubuntu or Ubuntu.)))   Is there a way I can get into a simple account-- I've used this method when I forgot my password -- and look at the account and password file, write something into
[20:52] <tripelb> it?
[20:53] <tripelb> waiting a while for responses
[20:53] <abraoximenes> how to register freenode..?? thanks
[20:53] <LjL> !register > abraoximenes
[20:53] <thegreyspot> THere is only lo and eth0 and both say no wireless extensions
[20:53] <tripelb> !register > tripelb
[20:53] <Exxon> llutz, can you help here.. http://pastebin.com/dhdf5Vg3
[20:54] <dj_segfault> Hey.  I'm trying to install lib32ncurses5 (for Android sdk) on 10.04.3 LTS, and Synaptic can't find it.  Anyone know where I can get it?
[20:54] <CrustyBarnacle> abraoximenes: !register
[20:54] <CrustyBarnacle> !register: abraoximenes
[20:54] <M4d3L> I try to kill a process and it not working.
[20:54] <Pilif12p> M4d3L: Using a terminal?
[20:55] <M4d3L> I do top. hit "K" key to send kill signal 15 to the pid I want to kill
[20:55] <abraoximenes> where i type the command
[20:55] <Pilif12p> Send a 9
[20:55] <abraoximenes> ??
[20:55] <AzoteLogiko> es
[20:55] <Exxon> ndiswrapper!
[20:56] <Pilif12p> !register > pilif12p
[20:56] <CrustyBarnacle> tripelb: Do you have another Mac to test the CD on?
[20:56] <Exxon> !ndiswrapper
[20:56] <Pilif12p> abraoximenes: To register your nickname on Freenode?
[20:57] <thegreyspot> Exxon: Are you suggesting ndiswrapper to me?
[20:57] <guntbert> M4d3L: !pastebin the output of          ps aux   and tell us the name of the program and the url where you posted it
[20:58] <Phr3d13> Is it /msg nickserv register
[20:58] <Exxon> thegreyspot, read this i am not sure .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4311_Natty_11.04?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=BCM4311&highlight=%28ManufacturerModel%29
[20:59] <LemonAid> M4d3L try this, in a terminal do "kill -s 9 <pid>" or "'kill -s 9 $(pidof <name of process>)' ex: kill -s 9 $(pidof X) -> kills X"
[20:59] <thegreyspot> Exxon: I had it running before. I was able to connect and everything, except it just had low signal strength. ANd thats when I started trying to fix it
[20:59] <rdesfo> when I use my user account the letter "a" doesn't appear in the terminal, but if I log in as guest it works fine.  Is there a settings file for the terminal that I can delete to resolve the issue??
[21:00] <ayrton__> whats the command i use to build mesa 7.11 when i go into the file ?
[21:00] <Varazir> upstart will the script run as root ?
[21:00] <llutz> Varazir: yes
[21:00] <Exxon> thegreyspot, you have to locate the module for the wireless (make it as root)
[21:00] <Varazir> llutz: ok
[21:01] <zykotick9> LemonAid, you might want to look into the "killall" command - easier then using, $(pidof foo)
[21:01] <LemonAid> Is there any way to manually mount (on desktop for ex) a partition but make it so that it does not mount in /media as well ?
[21:01] <llutz> better to use pgrep / pkill
[21:01] <guntbert> zykotick9: but potentially more dangerous too
[21:01] <Varazir> llutz: can't get it to work :( how do you specify when the script will run ?
[21:01] <thegreyspot> Exxon: So modprobe wl and modprobe bcma, responde with not output when i run them
[21:01] <zykotick9> guntbert, i suppose
[21:02] <Varazir> I have start on runlevel [06]
[21:02] <llutz> !runlevel | Varazir
[21:02] <LemonAid> zykotick9, tx for the tip.
[21:02] <thegreyspot> exxon:But http://pastebin.com/VYzpdzP7 For the other one
[21:03] <llutz> Varazir: upstart scripts have a "start on" line, where you define when it should run
[21:03] <ayrton__> i just downloaded mesa 7.11 and extracted it now i have to compile it how do i do this?
[21:03] <zykotick9> LemonAid, guntbert does make a good point - killall will kill ALL of the processes with that name (potential issue, is if you have more then 1 instance of the program you are killing)
[21:03] <Varazir> llutz: I like it to run on shutdown
[21:03] <Exxon> thegreyspot, i am looing at it by the time read it   http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man5/modprobe.conf.5.html
[21:03] <Varazir> llutz: so RL 0 or 6
[21:04] <Varazir> that is 0 is halt and 0 is reboot
[21:04] <llutz> Varazir: sry i'm not very versed with upstart. 6 is reboot
[21:04] <Varazir> 6 is reboot
[21:04] <Varazir> llutz: ok np
[21:04] <Varazir> !Upstart
[21:04] <ayrton__> i downloaded mesa 7.11 how do i compile it
[21:05] <thegreyspot> Exxon: oh running sudo modprobe brcmsmac doesnt give any errors haha
[21:05] <Exxon> thegreyspot, wth..
[21:06] <Exxon> thegreyspot, ok we are in business then
[21:06] <thegreyspot> Exxon: Yaya! what should i be checking? haha
[21:07] <shomon> hi, what am I missing if I've installed php, mysql, apache2 and any php file on my webserver I navigate to gives me a "download" option?
[21:07] <shomon> it's something really silly, I'm sure
[21:07] <LemonAid> I sort of got that from the "all" part :) Will be careful with using it of course. Nice to know the command exists.
[21:07] <Exxon> thegreyspot, dmesg | grep  wl, bcma, brcmsmac
[21:08] <inashdeen> anyone here knows how to fix python. having a problem AttributeError: 'Screencast' object has no attribute 'recording_command'  on kazam
[21:09] <thegreyspot> Exxon: http://pastebin.com/eiPJ7QU1 :)
[21:09] <Exxon> thegreyspot, dmesg |  wl, bcma, brcmsmac
[21:10] <Exxon> thegreyspot, sorry ..dmesg | grep wl, bcma, brcmsmac
[21:11] <thegreyspot> Exxon: I just get bcmano such file or directory and same for brcmsmac
[21:11] <thegreyspot> WHen i run them togetther like that
[21:11] <RidDrib> inashdeen: the error is in the folder "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/kazam".
[21:11] <Exxon> thegreyspot, the only point is that we want to get the module active and things will work fine..its a new one
[21:12] <grav`sparks> I'm having issues after updating from 10.04 to 10.10.. I cannot connect to the internet.
[21:12] <inashdeen> RidDrib : the folder does not exist :)
[21:13] <grav`sparks> I use static ip, and I can ssh into the box fine, and the internal network is fine.. its the external network that im having issues connecting to.. I connect via a router
[21:13] <thegreyspot> Exxon: Right, im just saying that dmesg | grep wl, bcma, brcmsmac gives me http://pastebin.com/yaxa2JMz
[21:13] <cambazz> hello, how do i open my webcam and see what it is showing
[21:13] <cambazz> web cam works in skype
[21:13] <Exxon> thegreyspot, do you have a wi-fi switch on you laptop..
[21:13] <grav`sparks> I'm not sure if its my resolv.conf or /etc/hosts.conf thats messing up.. because all i did was run the update..
[21:14] <thegreyspot> Exxon: Yes sir
[21:14] <lkm32> cambazz: have a cheese window open
[21:14] <RidDrib> inashdeen: step 1 - sudo apt-get remove --purge kazam
[21:14] <spoq> gosh..
[21:14] <RidDrib> inashdeen: step 2 - sudo apt-get autoremove
[21:15] <inashdeen> RidDrib : done and done
[21:15] <spoq> the people in fedora channel are very angry people
[21:15] <RidDrib> sudo apt-get update
[21:15] <Varazir> llutz: tried to start it mannualy and got a error ( I think )
[21:15] <Varazir> well
[21:15] <inashdeen> spoq : tell me bout it :)
[21:15] <RidDrib> inashdeen: step 3 - sudo apt-get update
[21:15] <Varazir> I have to look into that another day
[21:15] <spoq> i just got kick/ban from their 2 chans for little no reason.
[21:15] <RidDrib> inashdeen: step 4 - sudo apt-get install kazam
[21:15] <Exxon> thegreyspot, you wi-fi is switching itself off according to battery power of the laptop please plug and it will be fine
[21:15] <rasedori92> hello everyone
[21:16] <spoq> i just suggest everyone to stay away from that chan, people are very unfriendly.
[21:16] <rasedori92> i have a big problem
[21:16] <rasedori92> with my ubuntu
[21:16] <inashdeen> RidDrib : The following packages have unmet dependencies:  kazam : Depends: libavdevice52 but it is not installable or                   libavdevice-extra-52 but it is not installable          Depends: libavcodec-extra-52 but it is not installable          Recommends: python-gdata but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[21:16] <thegreyspot> Exxon: I am plugged in, and the wifi switch is on. IT also handles my bluetooth device and thats on too
[21:16] <lkm32> rasedori92: what is the problem
[21:16] <rasedori92> is runnung very slow and freezes
[21:16] <inashdeen> spoq: what did you do? the last i nearly got that was from pinguy.hahah
[21:16] <thegreyspot> Exxon: Even when the wifi card was working, it always had an orange light, when it should be white, so maybe its just a false report
[21:17] <spoq> lol
[21:17] <spoq> i was asking about the security of fedora
 spoq: You're going to get "abused" in here too shortly
[21:17] <inashdeen> spoq : actually, what are you doing there ?? :)
[21:17] <spoq> * fedbot sets ban on *!~spoq@autodns-212-219-225-239.staffs.ac.uk
[21:17] <spoq> i asked about the security of fedora and other few things
[21:17] <spoq> obviously they are very angry
[21:17] <lkm32> rasedori92: did you do anything recently that may have caused this? also, what are your specs and ubuntu version?
[21:17] <spoq> no wonder thers only 405 people vs the 1611 in here.
[21:18] <inashdeen> spoq : hahah please tag my name please. nice. i think they are being sensitive
[21:18] <Exxon> thegreyspot, ifconfig ...(let me know the wireless..wlan0..wlan1..etc
 spoq: You're a fowl mouthed brat
[21:18] <spoq> LOl
[21:18] <rasedori92> ubuntu 10.11 netbook and i have 512 ram and amd processor with 1,8 ghz
[21:18] <thegreyspot> Exxon: Only eth0 and lo
[21:18] <Nikodean> Hello. I am trying to install Wubi Ubuntu 11.10 from Windows 7 and it is saying that it failed, and permission is denied, help?: http://pastebin.com/6vtKytx3
[21:19] <lkm32> rasedori:you mean, 11.10?
[21:19] <inashdeen> spoq : how did you asked by the way p/s: tag my name, its hard to see in all this croud
[21:19] <rasedori92> i used only chrome and pidgin messenger
[21:19] <ayrton__> how do i update mesa to 7.11?
[21:19] <rasedori92> yes
[21:19] <spoq> inashdeen: i asked them some random questions
[21:19] <thegreyspot> Exxon: I think i need to reinstall the bcm kernel drivers.... I just dont know how
[21:19] <leoom> hnfg
[21:20] <ayrton__> anyone?
[21:20] <Exxon> thegreyspot, eth0 is only wired connection ..can you reboot with switch of the wi-fi on we have to get wlan0
[21:20] <thegreyspot> Exxon:  Or the STA ones...
[21:20] <inashdeen> spoq : hahaha. the more they are being sensitive and protective, the more they are gonna be nuts. and i thought people at #ubuntu are super senstive. have to reset my parameters though
[21:20] <spoq> yes
[21:20] <thegreyspot> Exxon: wlan0 not showing in ifconfig is just telling us that the drivers aren't laoded for hte device rigjht? SO we neeed to fix that?
[21:20] <dj_segfault> i686 is 32 bit, right?
[21:21] <cablop> faaik... yes
[21:21] <cablop> ahem
[21:21] <ayrton__> how do i update mesa to 7.11
[21:21] <cablop> afaik, yes, i686 is 32bits
[21:21] <dj_segfault> cablop: Thanks
[21:21] <cablop> my question... can i resize in hot a ext3 filesystem in ubuntu?
[21:22] <SJr> What's a simple program for converting videos?
[21:22] <Exxon> thegreyspot, we have to make sure that when it booted if the switch is off it really don't matter if its external but internal..lets give it a try..reboot with switch on of the wi-fi
[21:22] <cablop> i was using the LVM gui tool and it seemt to have resized the ext3 partition in hot
[21:22] <dj_segfault> SJr: ffmpeg
[21:22] <ayrton__> how do i update mesa to 7.11?
[21:22] <SJr> I mean like nice UI, I don't feel like learning a crap load of video codecs to shrink one video.
[21:22] <thegreyspot> OK Ill reboot with switch on. Brb
[21:23] <eXpander> can someone ctcp me?
[21:23] <eXpander> thx vergil
[21:23] <pulchras> Hi all!
[21:24] <pulchras> could anyone please remind me which is the command to search the different man pages related to a key word?
[21:25] <bogdomania> alias ?
[21:25] <boomtopper> I've been playing around with nginx and have meesed up the settings, so I decided to delete the /etc/nginx dir thinking naively that it would recreate it when I installed again. Is there a way to get it recreated?
[21:25] <tata_> imali li lubuntu nešto kao clean dick na obrišem nagomilane temporary fajlove, stalno mi se smanjuje veličina home home space
[21:25] <AzoteLogiko> tata_ english please :)
[21:25] <tata_> sorry
[21:26] <jstressman> anyone know how to get rid of all the Chinese language stuff installed on here by default?
[21:26] <thegreyspot_> Exxon: OK so we have wifi back :)
[21:26] <tata_> something like "clean disc c" in lubuntu, my home free space is now smaller
[21:27] <Exxon> thegreyspot, ifconfig
[21:27] <abraoximenes> where i can type this command
[21:27] <jstressman> you can't remove it from language settings... even installing Chinese and then removing it again doesn't get rid of it...
[21:27] <thegreyspot_> Exxon: thanks! But we still have the problem of extremely low signal strength.
[21:27] <Exxon> thegreyspot, we can fix that
[21:27] <thegreyspot_> Exxon: wlan- :)
[21:27] <rad``> I am having a problem that I think is resovled on this page: http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/CommonMisconfigurations. Can someone please tell me what f***ing file they are referring to? I have no idea what file I am supposed to "fix" because it's not mentioned anywhere.
[21:27] <thegreyspot_> wlan0*
[21:28] <rdesfo> is there better chat room to ask support questions?
[21:28] <bogdomania> rad``, i belive that would be the config file
[21:28] <Exxon> dmesg | grep .............(put the module ...rocket sky high
[21:29] <lkm32> rdesfo: you could always try the forums for more complicated problems
[21:29] <anAngel> hello, my ubuntu router resets randomly. I suspect its some hard drive problem but how can i make sure? logs? commands? i am using mdam with lvm on top
[21:29] <rad``> httpd.conf or apache.conf?
[21:29] <rad``> my httpd.conf is completely empty
[21:30] <Exxon> thegreyspot_, dmesg | grep  wl, bcma, brcmsmac
[21:30] <bogdomania> u can find more help in #apache
[21:30] <thegreyspot_> Exxon: http://pastebin.com/8Qr6hb6n
[21:30] <Exxon> thegreyspot_, iwconfig wlan0 rate 5.5M auto fixed
[21:31] <full80> hello
[21:31] <thegreyspot_> Exxon: Ok that ran, should i test again?
[21:32] <Exxon> thegreyspot_, sudo dmesg | grep  wl, bcma, brcmsmac
[21:32] <thegreyspot_> Exxon same as http://pastebin.com/8Qr6hb6n
[21:32] <ideea> hi, i was using linux(ubuntu) a few years ago.. can any1 tell me, how it is right now with font antialiasing in swing(java) applications, its still horrible?(for example: netbeans, phpstorm)
[21:33] <Exxon> thegreyspot_, space ..
[21:33] <full80> TOOLS VMWARE : What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[21:33] <full80> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]               how to proceed?
[21:33] <Exxon> thegreyspot_, simply don't copy and paste ..space could be a problem then
[21:34] <thegreyspot_> Exxon: Just typed it, same result. Can't I run them separately? :)
[21:34] <Exxon> thegreyspot_, do you have wlan0
[21:35] <thegreyspot_> Exxon: where do you mean?
[21:35] <full80> TOOLS-- VMWARE : What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]               how to proceed?
[21:36] <Exxon> iwconfig wlan0 rate 5.5M auto fixed
[21:36] <Exxon> thegreyspot_, iwconfig wlan0 rate 5.5M auto fixed
[21:36] <thegreyspot_> Exxon: yes that seems to run fine when i run it with sudo
[21:37] <c0nv1ct> full80: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware    tried following the guide there?
[21:37] <Exxon> thegreyspot_, ping www.google.com ....we are done..:)) enjoy
[21:38] <thegreyspot_> Exxon: I am afraid we are not. Just walked in to my other room which is back to back to the room with the wifi router and it drops
[21:39] <thegreyspot_> Im pretty much right in front of the router right now and I still only get 3 bars out of 4
[21:41] <rad``> d
[21:42] <Exxon> thegreyspot_, router is getting old..
[21:43] <thegreyspot_> Exxon: Hahhaha no, all my other computers work fine, and windows 7 on this computer works perfect too
[21:43] <truefx> how can i change resize cursor in ubuntu ?
[21:43] <Exxon> thegreyspot_, did you document all the commands then you try it later
[21:44] <thegreyspot_> Exxon: I am using the BRCMSMAC driver right now, could you help me switch to the STA one?
[21:44] <thegreyspot_> Exxon: Try signal strength later?
[21:44] <truefx> it s sooo  ugly ruins beuaty of my theme
[21:44] <Exxon> thegreyspot_, again a clean slate
[21:45] <peydude> hello are there problems with linux 3.0.0-13 ?
[21:45] <peydude> I had a not so smooth upgrade experience and now I am not sure if the update installed correctly (haven't tried rebooting yet)
[21:45] <otter_> #blogger
[21:46] <truefx> how to change resize cursor ?
[21:46] <reisio> truefx: change how
[21:47] <truefx> i use oxygen cursor theme its fine in windows
[21:47] <truefx> but in ubuntu when i resize its ugly black
[21:47] <lkm32> truefx: did you install gnome-tweak-tool?
[21:47] <truefx> let me see
[21:48] <truefx> i use 10.04
[21:48] <truefx> and its not in reps
[21:48] <truefx> E: Couldn't find package gnome-tweak-tool
[21:49] <lkm32> oh, ok ...I thought you had 11.10
[21:49] <reisio> the default X cursors are black
[21:49] <truefx> lkm32, is it possible in 10.04 ?
[21:49] <reisio> perhaps your cursor theme didn't provide a replacement for those
[21:49] <thegreyspot> Exxon: I am back :) you mean reinstall the OS?
[21:49] <srk9> Why doesn't ubuntu-10.04.3-server-i386.manifest exist?
[21:50] <truefx> but why i ve changed default to oxgen too
[21:50] <lkm32> truefx: so the problem is that it is switching cursor color/themes when performing certain actions?
[21:50] <reisio> srk9: what would it have in it?
[21:50] <openyost> Hi all, my unity dash home does not show applications in search anymore, AND Alt-F2 dialog shows nothing too (Ubuntu Oneiric)
[21:50] <openyost> Any ideas?
[21:50] <srk9> reisio: The equivalent of http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntu-10.04.3-desktop-i386.manifest
[21:51] <truefx> nope i ve overcome that default is also oxygen but resize animation when i move over the edge is still ugly black
[21:51] <ubuntu> b
[21:51] <truefx> lkm32, any idea ?
[21:51] <reisio> srk9: dunno
[21:51] <lkm32> ok, let me remember, go to the appearance settings and make sure that the cursor set does not include that
[21:52] <reisio> srk9: maybe because people looking for a server install just want fewer packages
[21:52] <thegreyspot> I heard using WICD network manager can help signal strength is this true?
[21:52] <srk9> reisio: I really don't see the distinction between desktop and server, but want I really want is a list of all packages I explicitly installed.
[21:53] <reisio> srk9: you can get the list after installation, sorry dunno where you'd get a manifest beforehand
[21:53] <srk9> reisio: How do I get the list?
[21:53] <lkm32> truefx: it is a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/oxygencursors/+bug/308898
[21:54] <reisio> srk9: dpkg -l, IIRC
[21:54] <srk9> reisio: How does that help me if I want to find out all packages I installed myself?
[21:54] <srk9> reisio: Right now, I am doing wget -qO - http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntu-10.04.3-desktop-i386.manifest | cut -d" " -f1 | sort | uniq > /tmp/defaultinstalled.txt; (for i in $(cat currentlyinstalled.txt); do if [ "$(grep -xc $i auto)" -eq 0 -a "$(grep -xc $i /tmp/defaultinstalled.txt)" -eq 0 ]; then echo $i; fi; done;)
[21:54] <anAngel> hello, my ubuntu 11.10 router resets randomly. I suspect its some hard drive problem but how can i make sure? which logs/commands? I am using 2 hdds in mdam with lvm on top
[21:55] <truefx> lkmx is it same in 11.10 ?
[21:55] <srk9> It doesn't work super-well because of the differences in the manifest files.
[21:55] <truefx> lkm32, is it same in 11.10 ?
[21:55] <yeats> srk9: 'dpkg -l | grep ii' will show you what's currently installed
[21:55] <lkm32> No
[21:55] <reisio> srk9: ah yourself
[21:55] <reisio> srk9: there should be a log somewhere, you should be able to just cut out those before a certain date
[21:55] <srk9> yeats: I want the ones I explicitly told apt-get to install.
[21:55] <srk9> reisio: But I don't want their dependencies.
[21:55] <lkm32> it doesn't do that, I think it was a bug with the old gtk
[21:56] <yeats> srk9: you might be able to see which ones you installed in /var/log/dpkg.log
[21:56] <srk9> yeats: It should list every package that was installed, not just the ones I requested.
[21:56] <yeats> srk9: but that would include dependencies
[21:56] <reisio> srk9: there's some command with aptitude or something
[21:56] <reisio> !installed
[21:56] <reisio> ubottu: you failure
[21:56] <srk9> lol
[21:56] <srk9> Right now, I am getting: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/513731/
[21:57] <srk9> That is from the commands I posted earlier. It is probably good enough for my friend who is running Ubuntu i686 and wants to know what he installed, but still, it shouldn't be this difficult. On Gentoo, I can do "cat /var/lib/portage/world" and get what I want.
[21:58] <srk9> Is Canonical going to make improvements to Ubuntu's package manager in the future so that things like this can be done with ease?
[21:59] <yeats> srk9: I don't think your use case is a common one (apparently)
[21:59] <openyost> My unity doesn't search through applications anymore, I even tried reinstalling unity-place-applications
[21:59] <reisio> srk9: maybe dpkg --get-selections
[21:59] <reisio> srk9: if Canonical were up to that, they wouldn't have just copied Debian :p
[21:59] <srk9> yeats: It is common when you want to reinstall your system from scratch or switch distributions.
[21:59] <reisio> srk9: I'm sure there are existing scripts, people don't fix things that aren't broken, it's sort of a problem with old software, and sort of not
[21:59] <srk9> Well, switching distributions would also be a reinstall.
[22:00] <yeats> !clone
[22:01] <openyost> any ideas?  Right now I have to launch all applications from the terminal and this is obnoxious
[22:01] <lkm32> Doesn't ubuntu have something called "OneConf" that does this?
[22:01] <reisio> openyost: ideas about what
[22:02] <lkm32> I think it is under the USC File>Sync between computers
[22:02] <mrkuchbhi> hello....I am using ubuntu 10.04 .. i am unable to find .Xresources file in my home directory..where is that located?
[22:03] <openyost> reisio: My unity doesn't search through applications anymore, I even tried reinstalling unity-place-applications	
[22:03] <JohnDoe01> OK
[22:03] <srk9> yeats: Is that really the right way to do it? It seems very Ubuntu specific and I don't get much say in what I want to keep or discard.
[22:03] <JohnDoe01> OK
[22:03] <JohnDoe01> OK
[22:03] <FloodBot1> JohnDoe01: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:03] <openyost> reisio: nevermind, it very randomly started working  (I guess I just had to wait out the database to be upddated
[22:03] <spoq> nice
[22:04] <spoq> lool
[22:04] <spoq> floodbot3 is gone :S
[22:04] <techlobyte1> he's not allowed to run
[22:05] <srk9> spoq: We are now defenseless. We shall all die unless we build giant Arks.
[22:05] <alexcabrera> Hi, I'm playing with 11.10 and I'm trying to figure out how to either a.) disable workspaces or b.) unbind Super+S (so I can use it in vim).
[22:05] <spoq> lack of discipline got him kick out from the job.
[22:05] <JohnDoe01> Waits for my me ? not to speak English
[22:05] <JohnDoe01> Waits for my me ? not to speak English
[22:05] <JohnDoe01> Waits for my me ? not to speak English
[22:05] <JohnDoe01> Waits for my me ? not to speak English
[22:05] <JohnDoe01> Waits for my me ? not to speak English
[22:05] <JohnDoe01> Waits for my me ? not to speak English
[22:05] <JohnDoe01> Waits for my me ? not to speak English
[22:05] <alexcabrera> but it does not appear in the keyboard/shortcuts settings panel
[22:05] <Exxon> !enter JohnDoe01
[22:06] <spoq> !enter exxon
[22:06] <spoq> hhmm
[22:07] <yeats> srk9: it is definitely Ubuntu specific - it assumes that you would install Ubuntu again on the new machine - but it may help with what you're trying to do
[22:08] <thegreyspot> Does anyone have any ideas why my wifi signal strength can be so low?
[22:08] <JohnDoe01> How then can ? make
[22:10] <Timewarper> HEY HOW CAN I RUN A PROGRAM AS ANOTHER USER FROM TERMINAL USING SU?
[22:10] <ZekeS> Timewarper: man su
[22:10] <ZekeS> Timewarper: alternately, man sudo
[22:10] <piero> Why ATI cards was blacklisted to use webl? Security issues?
[22:11] <Whom00> hi
[22:11] <Exxon> piero, lspci -v | greap VGA
[22:11] <Whom00> almost every is idle right?
[22:11] <Whom00> everyone*
[22:12] <Exxon> piero, lspci -v | grep VGA
[22:12] <Whom00> just got started with the whole irc thing
[22:12] <piero> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Turks XT [AMD Radeon HD 6600 Series] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[22:12] <Exxon> piero, how can you tell then its blacklisted
[22:13] <srk9> yeats: Won't that cause problems with distribution upgrades? e.g. if you want to go from machine A to machine B and machine B requires a newer version of Ubuntu...
[22:13] <piero> webgl works when I start chromium-browser with --ignore-blacklist--blablabla
[22:14] <turk> hi all, can anyone suggest a guide to debugging kernel panics?  My system is hard freezing occasionally and I need some logs, but nothing is showing up in /var/log/kern.log
[22:14] <y0ungn3rd95> How do I install ATI/AMD fglrx proprietary driver on my laptop running on blackbuntu i386?
[22:14] <yeats> srk9: there are sometimes some conflicts, but it basically works.  My method is an ubu_setup.sh script that I add to each time I install a package I know I'll want on every instance of Ubuntu I run
[22:14] <TimothyA> floodbot is flooding
[22:14] <Exxon> y0ungn3rd95, its using vesa drivers and there no additional drivers..
[22:15] <srk9> yeats: Is Canonical working on a fix for this? It seems absurd to expect people to do these things.
[22:15] <y0ungn3rd95> So I cant play SuperTuxKart at all
[22:15] <y0ungn3rd95> ?
[22:16] <Exxon> y0ungn3rd95, you are right cannot support compiz either sorry to hear that
[22:16] <reisio> y0ungn3rd95: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ?
[22:16] <tensorpudding> y0ungn3rd95, is blackbuntu a supported derivative
[22:16] <y0ungn3rd95> im crying now
[22:16] <pengw> supertuxkart is fun
[22:16] <yeats> srk9: I'm still not sure I understand the problem...  I have no idea what Canonical is doing, but it's an open source product - you can modify it to suit your needs
[22:17] <y0ungn3rd95> I think so coz I heard people who was telling me tht I can install this driver on blackbuntu
[22:17] <srk9> yeats: The problem is that the package manager makes people jump through hops for what should be basic operations.
[22:17] <Exxon> y0ungn3rd95, get a new laptop..if you really want some fancy stuff
[22:17] <tensorpudding> if the driver is available it'll show up in Additional Drivers
[22:17] <tensorpudding> so open up Additional Drivers and see
[22:18] <reisio> srk9: I'm sure there's a tool for what you want
[22:18] <y0ungn3rd95> @exxon why?
[22:18] <reisio> srk9: obviously there isn't (apparently?) anything as lovely as Gentoo's /var/lib/portage/world
[22:18] <y0ungn3rd95> like what?
[22:18] <reisio> srk9: but I'm sure you can get the same result
[22:18] <yeats> srk9: I think the key is what is meant by "basic operations" - obviously I've never been hindered by the lack of whatever it is you're looking for and I've been running Ubuntu/Debian for years
[22:18] <reisio> srk9: you could check /var/db/pkg/, though
[22:18] <tensorpudding> y0ungn3rd95, have you looked there yet
[22:19] <Exxon> y0ungn3rd95, lspci -v | grep VGA
[22:19] <SrMenudo> hello
[22:19] <yeats> srk9: it would be pretty simple to write a bash wrapper around apt-get/aptitude that creates a package list for you
[22:20] <srk9> yeats: Currently, the package manager cannot present a list of all explicitly installed software, automate safe removal of obsolete packages, run without sudo to show a user the effect of a change without any possibility of him accepting it accidentally, the ability to safely abort installations, the ability to do multiple installations simultaneously, and probably a few other things that I don't remember at the moment, but these are all annoyances.
[22:20] <yeats> srk9: then maybe this is the wrong distro for you ;-)
[22:21] <srk9> reisio: What would I find there that would help me obtain a list of all explicitly installed packages?
[22:21] <srk9> yeats: It isn't my first choice, but it is hard to avoid. :/
[22:21] <reisio> srk9: ... a list of all explicitly installed packages, quite possibly
[22:21] <y0ungn3rd95> VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Manhattan [Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[22:21] <escott> srk9, dpkg --get-selections
[22:22] <srk9> escott: That isn't what I want.
[22:22] <yeats> srk9: fwiw, 'apt-get -s <command>' simulates the command without actually performing it
[22:22] <y0ungn3rd95> Exxon: I did it
[22:22] <srk9> yeats: Ah, cool. So they do have that one. What about fetching the installation files without actually installing anything?
[22:22] <Exxon> y0ungn3rd95, what about the vendor do they have linux drivers
[22:22] <yeats> srk9: also, it sounds like your beef is with APT (which is Debian) not Ubuntu specifically (and definitely not Canonical)
[22:22] <y0ungn3rd95> yup
[22:23] <truefx> lkm32, can i replace resize icon in dmz_black with oxygen manually ?
[22:23] <y0ungn3rd95> dont you know ATI/AMD?
[22:23] <y0ungn3rd95> exxon?
[22:23] <srk9> yeats: Ubuntu uses apt. :(
[22:23] <yeats> srk9: 'apt-get download' (in 11.04+ apparently)
[22:23] <tensorpudding> y0ungn3rd95, fglrx should work on it
[22:23] <srk9> I won't see that until 12.04 then. :(
[22:23] <yeats> srk9: I know that - I'm just saying that APT is inherited from Debian
[22:23] <Exxon> y0ungn3rd95, ati is a card / amd is a processor
[22:23] <y0ungn3rd95> Exxon it doesnt
[22:24] <tensorpudding> y0ungn3rd95, have you looked in the Additional Drivers program to see if the driver is available
[22:24] <hh> If I ssh onto a server as some user, and they type "sudo xterm" and get root access, is there any way for them to figure out it's me?
[22:24] <tensorpudding> hh, yes
[22:24] <tensorpudding> sudo logs it
[22:25] <y0ungn3rd95> @Exxon yup it is available but I think I need another version or configurate my system to accept it
[22:25] <hh> Awww....
[22:25] <yeats> srk9: I think you should do some deeper reading of the apt-get man page, for starters, then the dpkg man page... APT is very robust and resilient and almost certainly has the features you're looking for
[22:25] <nubbe> Exxon:   AMD dropped ATI as  TM some time ago
[22:25] <hh> tensorpudding, is there some way to mask that identity?
[22:25]  * yeats goes away for a while
[22:25] <srk9> yeats: Do situations where the problem is from Debian eliminate any obligation on Canonical's part to do something about it?
[22:25] <tensorpudding> you can edit the logs, since you have root privileges
[22:25] <spoq> where can i buy cheap ubuntu/linux stickers for my laptop?
[22:25] <hh> Hmm...
[22:25] <yeats> srk9: you should probably also read up on the relationship between Debian and Ubuntu
[22:25] <Exxon> so i hope vesa is not bad at all then..:))
[22:26] <hh> I guess so. What commands should I look up for knowing how to do that?
[22:26]  * yeats out
[22:26] <y0ungn3rd95> Exxon: Do I need to take another laptop but without ATI graphic card?
[22:26] <srk9> yeats: I had a list above. I don't think it has them solved. For example, if I am doing software updates and then decide to install some new package, I have to wait for all updates to finish.
[22:26] <tensorpudding> this isn't a "learn-how-to-bypass-security" channel
[22:26] <hh> Alright. I'm just curious... "sudo xterm" is a pretty serious security breach...
[22:27] <Exxon> ubuntu has nvidia prop..drivers and work indeed well
[22:27] <tensorpudding> well
[22:27] <glebihan> srk9, I would actually consider that a feature rather than a limitation
[22:27] <tensorpudding> if you run xterm as root it creates a few files in /root
[22:27] <srk9> hh: It is easy. Just wipe the logs.
[22:27] <y0ungn3rd95> Exxon Nvidia is better then?
[22:27] <tensorpudding> y0ungn3rd95, are you going to listen to me
[22:28] <y0ungn3rd95> tensorpudding what?
[22:28] <nubbe> hh: ??
[22:28] <hh> srk9, wipe them completely? That would at the very least alert the system that somebody was messing with stuff, wouldn't it?
[22:28] <srk9> glebihan: If all dependencies are satisfied, there shouldn't be a problem. Then again, apt-get doesn't have a reinstall all option so if the system is in an inconsistent state, I can't ask it to fix itself. :/
[22:28] <spoq> where can i buy cheap ubuntu/linux stickers for my laptop?
[22:28] <tensorpudding> i said three times that you can install fglrx from the Additional Drivers program
[22:28] <hh> nubbe: ?
[22:28] <xangua> spoq: there is the canonical store
[22:28] <tensorpudding> which is the usual way to install proprietary drivers
[22:28] <srk9> hh: They wouldn't know who. Otherwise, you could try editing the file in place, but that could cause problems.
[22:28] <nubbe> hh:   "sudo xterm" is a pretty serious security breach...
[22:29] <Exxon> y0ungn3rd95, i would never recommend any one any thing about ....its up to them to decide., the fate is yours
[22:29] <srk9> nubbe: I do sudo -i screen. It is better.
[22:29] <spoq> in uk?
[22:29] <y0ungn3rd95> tensorpudding yup! I know I did it but it fails every single time I try to install it
[22:29] <hh> It is, isn't it? You can act as root where it's not intended.
[22:29] <glebihan> srk9, apt does have options to correct itself when it is in an inconsistent state
[22:29] <tensorpudding> how does it fail
[22:29] <srk9> glebihan: Can it to a full reinstall of all packages?
[22:30] <y0ungn3rd95> Exxon I'll get a different one
[22:30] <tensorpudding> hh, if you have sudo access, you can already act as root in some ways
[22:30] <glebihan> srk9, no and I really don't see the need for this
[22:30] <hh> That's true...
[22:30] <srk9> glebihan: HD corruption for instance.
[22:30] <funnyfingers> In CentOS you can just delete the ssh host keys and starting sshd will generate new ones.  I see for Debian/Ubuntu this article saying more must be done.  Is this true?  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-regenerate-openssh-host-keys/
[22:30] <y0ungn3rd95> tensorpudding I dont know Im using BlackBuntu
[22:30] <hh> Maybe the server I'm thinking about is just super-extra careless...
[22:31] <bekks> funnyfingers: ssh keys can be regenerated by using ssh-keygen... like on all other distros.
[22:31] <tensorpudding> y0ungn3rd95, does it give an error message
[22:31] <srk9> Imaging the disk to a new one and doing fsck isn't enough to get the system up and running again. Every non-data bit needs to be replaced.
[22:31] <glebihan> srk9, if the HD is corrupted, I don't see how reinstalling packages will get you anywhere
[22:31] <y0ungn3rd95> tensorpudding yup Im gonna tell you
[22:31] <srk9> glebihan: Use ddrescue to copy the disk to a new one. Then fsck it. Next start the system and reinstall all packages. It is a fairly simple way of fixing things.
[22:31] <tensorpudding> y0ungn3rd95, at your own risk, you can use the ATi installer from their site
[22:32] <tensorpudding> y0ungn3rd95, http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx
[22:32] <funnyfingers> bekks - but would deleting them and simply startning sshd work in Debian as it does in CentOS?
[22:32] <srk9> glebihan: Or should that somehow not work?
[22:32] <y0ungn3rd95> tensorpudding last time I did so my laptop wasn't displaying anything
[22:33] <glebihan> srk9, I'm actually not sure whether this would work (or if the reinstall part is needed)
[22:33] <srk9> In the worst case, I can just manually replace damaged files from the LiveCD to be able to do a chroot.
[22:33] <nubbe> hh: whats wrong with sudo xterm? if u r in sudoers list then u pretty much have root...
[22:33] <Exxon> tensorpudding, please have look at the output of the VGA paste and then recommend
[22:33] <srk9> Then from the chroot, I could tell the package manager to reinstall everything, if it only supported it. -_-
[22:33] <tensorpudding> if you can sudo -i, you can have an effective root shell
[22:33] <bekks> funnyfingers: I have no clue wether the debian guys did something weird at that point - but on ubuntu, it works fine.
[22:33] <tensorpudding> Exxon, what are you talking about
[22:34] <Stockholm_Angel> i downloaded ubuntu, and made a usb stick, i attempted to boot the computer with the usb stick, it wont boot via the usb drive "not COM32 image"
[22:34] <srk9> Maybe I can ask dpkg for a list and then tell it to reinstall everything for me in that situation, specifying each and every package as a commandline argument. It is somewhat cumbersome though.
[22:34] <y0ungn3rd95> tensorpudding tht's what i get: "SystemError: installArchives() failed"
[22:34] <tensorpudding> y0ungn3rd95, strange bug
[22:34] <funnyfingers> Thanks bekks, I am just trying to generalize some templates and wondered the best way in general to ensure unique keys.  SO my thought is to delete them in the templates.
[22:34] <escott> srk9, thats hardly cumbersome. its one line of dpkg, awk and apt-get
[22:35] <tensorpudding> that's for installing using additional drivers or from ati's own thing
[22:35] <Exxon> tensorpudding, i don't want to argue ..if he install that he will not be to startx
[22:35] <y0ungn3rd95> tensorpudding yes
[22:35] <tensorpudding> Exxon, and you suspect this why?
[22:35] <srk9> escott: It isn't discoverable. I wouldn't expect the average user to figure it out looking at the man page for apt-get.
[22:35] <tensorpudding> y0ungn3rd95, wasn't a yes or no question
[22:36] <Exxon> tensorpudding, there are people using ati aspects..
[22:36] <y0ungn3rd95> tensorpudding it was a YES
[22:36] <y0ungn3rd95> lol
[22:36] <tensorpudding> yes it was additional drivers, or yes it was ati's own thing
[22:36] <srk9> In fact, I wouldn't figure it out if something went wrong had I not asked when Canonical was going to improve its package manager.
[22:37] <tensorpudding> many people have had issues with ATi and GNOME 3
[22:37] <escott> Stockholm_Angel, supposedly just hit enter type live and hit enter again
[22:37] <tensorpudding> this could be related to it
[22:37] <pengw> GNOME3 is a joke
[22:37] <y0ungn3rd95> tensorpudding It is ATI own thing coz it's a proprietary driver and not open source
[22:37] <tensorpudding> ATi's drivers have never been the best
[22:37] <glebihan> srk9, the average user doesn't even think about reinstalling all the packages on his system
[22:38] <y0ungn3rd95> tensorpudding yup tht's real bullshit
[22:38] <Exxon> y0ungn3rd95, you can give it a try but backup the xorg and then install..and it works good it it don't remane it and back to normal
[22:38] <tensorpudding> y0ungn3rd95, i know that the thing in additional drivers is made by ati
[22:38] <y0ungn3rd95> Exxon How do I backup XORG?
[22:38] <tensorpudding> but the installer that ati produces should work too
[22:38] <srk9> glebihan: Or recovering from a bad hard drive?
[22:38] <srk9> y0ungn3rd95: Why would you want to backup xorg?
[22:39] <srk9> y0ungn3rd95: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:39] <tensorpudding> you don't have to back up anything, you almost surely don't have an xorg.conf file written
[22:39] <Exxon> simply cp *.backup
[22:39] <y0ungn3rd95> To try install ATI driver manually on blackbuntu
[22:39] <srk9> If he has none, he can do "Xorg -configure -retro"
[22:39] <tensorpudding> you don't want to create one unless you know what you're doing
[22:39] <srk9> It should generate one for him. He can Alt+F1 to get out of it and then Ctrl+C X dead.
[22:40] <srk9> tensorpudding: It will be educational: http://xkcd.com/963/
[22:40] <tensorpudding> the ati driver might create one for you, but in which case you can just delete it
[22:40] <Exxon> y0ungn3rd95, blackubuntu is not supported in this session.
[22:40] <mael> exit
[22:41] <y0ungn3rd95> Exxon but I cant get a solution this driving me mad
[22:49] <reisio> Hilikus: don't see why not
[22:51] <Hilikus> reisi: what's the command to do it?
[22:51] <Timewarper> i want to run    dd /dev/urandom /dev/sdb       but also see the progress of the proccess. any ideas?
[22:51] <apwbdjp> Timewarper, on another terminal, do this: watch killall -USR1 dd
[22:51] <escott> Timewarper, man dd | grep -C5 status
[22:51] <apwbdjp> Timewarper, this will make dd print it's progress every 2 seconds
[22:52] <jugi> hi
[22:53] <topolo> hi, how to start an application in a windows instead of full screen ?? (the application is vegastrike) ??
[22:55] <Fuwex> I'm working on setting up my media center computer. It involves a lot of tedious configurations for everything to work seamlessly, including custom builds of different applications. I don't want to go through this again, so I was wondering - is it possible to take a complete image of my Ubuntu installation somehow, so that I can restore it at a later point, if needed?
[22:55] <escott> topolo, its an application specific option.
[22:55] <reisio> topolo: #vegastrike
[22:56] <reisio> Fuwex: yes, for a full disk image you can boot up a live cd (the install cd should work) and do dd if=/dev/sda of=path/to/some/drive/backup.ddimg
[22:57] <reisio> Fuwex: for something less drastic you can just cd /mnt/ubuntu/ && tar -cvf backup01.tar, then backup the TAR, and remember to use -p with tar -xpf when you extract later, if you do
[22:57] <reisio> Fuwex: the partition table and mbr should be less relevant, but you can backup them individually as well
[22:57] <reisio> Fuwex: for the dd approach: http://mark.koli.ch/2009/05/howto-whole-disk-backups-with-dd-gzip-and-p7zip.html
[22:57] <reisio> also has info on backing up the MBR and partition table alone
[22:58] <lwizardl> Hello
[22:58] <Fuwex> oh, that's excellent. Thank you, reisio!
[22:58] <lwizardl> anyone here have any experience with traditional hotswap drive caddies ?
[22:58] <topolo> no one can help me ? how to start an application in a windows instead of full screen ??
[22:59] <reisio> dd ftw
[22:59] <apwbdjp> topolo, reisio told you, it depends on the application, check at #vegastrike
[23:00] <reisio> topolo: http://vegastrike.sourceforge.net/wiki/Manual:Config#Color
[23:00] <monkeypaw> I'm running Ubuntu 10.10, and it's been up for a long time.  On reboot, it seems to hang on the Ubuntu splash screen.  I hit ctrl+alt+f1-f6, no console available.  I think it might be running a fsck?  How can I tell what's going on?
[23:00] <escott> monkeypaw, hit the up arrow or change your boot option to be nosplash noquiet
[23:00] <apwbdjp> monkeypaw, can you boot on recovery mode?
[23:00] <reisio> while I've personally not witnessed it on Ubuntu, you should see if it's running an fsck
[23:01] <monkeypaw> I could boot on recovery mode, it does have that option in the list of many installed kernels.
[23:01] <reisio> monkeypaw: how big are the drives connected to it?
[23:01] <monkeypaw> Pretty big I guess.  I think it has two 750gig drives.
[23:01] <reisio> ah
[23:02] <reisio> could be a long fsck, if that's indeed what's going on
[23:02] <reisio> how long has it been?
[23:02] <topolo> >reisio - Thanks a lot ...
[23:02] <spoq> is ubuntu under heavy burtation ?
[23:02] <monkeypaw> That might not be so big, I dunno.  I did hit ctrl+space and I saw /dev/sda FSCK completed.  But I have no idea what's going on now, or if it's asking me to [s]kip or [m]anually resolve the problem (if there is one)
[23:02] <monkeypaw> err alt+space, I was tryin to get anything 'sides the Ubuntu 10.10 splash screen with the four squares to show some information.
[23:03] <reisio> spoq: eh?
[23:03] <escott> monkeypaw, if fsck is finding problems then plymouth should be yielding to the console
[23:03] <cactuss> hello i just installed ubuntu 10.04 LTS on my laptop and i can't use the wireless internet card, it doesn't find any wireless adapters (wlan0) when i run ifconfig
[23:03] <monkeypaw> Okay, I guess it's not, escott.  I'm embarassed to say I let it sit for like, 20 minutes before I rebooted it :( It's doing FSCK I think but I can't really be sure.
[23:04] <monkeypaw> I'm just going to let it sit for an hour.
[23:04] <who_> Hi Everybody. I am an absolute beginner in Linux and I have a question about my battery setting. Could anyone show me where I should look for answers ?
[23:04] <Timewarper> apwbdjp, how does this watch killall -USR1 dd print progress every 2 seconds
[23:04] <Timewarper> you didnt specify anything
[23:04] <escott> monkeypaw, 20 minutes would be a very long fsck if you have ext4. it you have ext3 or ext2 thats more feasible
[23:04] <Timewarper> watch -n 10 killalll -USR1 dd
[23:04] <Timewarper> fot 10 sec
[23:04] <escott> monkeypaw, when you hit the up arrow what are the messages you are seeing
[23:05] <vergil> who_: There's usually help buttons throughout most of the interface.
[23:05] <monkeypaw> Yeah it says FSCK util-linux-ng ... then /dev/sda1: clean.  But nothing else is going on under alt+f7.
[23:05] <maxytalia> !list
[23:05] <vergil> who_: click the battery icon, go to your power settings, and there should be a help button in there somewhere.
[23:05] <apwbdjp> Timewarper, if you check in man dd, it says that if dd is sent the USR1 signal, it prints its progress, the keeps on going. So we just send that signal to all dd instances with killall, watch is just a way of repeating this periodically
[23:06] <monkeypaw> When I hit the up arrow, I see the one /dev/sda1: clean, fsck, and if I hit the up arrow again, I see the Ubuntu 10.10 splash screen.
[23:06] <Alia1> How do I disable appmenu in Oneiric for specific application? APPMENU_PROXY does nothing , APPMENU_DISPLAY_BOTH works.
[23:06] <escott> monkeypaw, sounds like the fscks are clean
[23:06] <monkeypaw> I know I have more than one partition and hard drive there, so I'm guessing it's running fsck (but I can't tell the progress).  Is there any way to see what else is going on?
[23:06] <monkeypaw> Oh.
[23:06] <Timewarper> apwbdjp, doesnt dd support verbose mode? printing itself its progress?
[23:06] <who_> vergil_: I need to force my netbook to charge the battery up to 100 and not up to 70% as the default seems to be, but I don't know how to do this in terminal
[23:07] <monkeypaw> escott, so I should power cycle and try recovery mode on the latest installed kernel?
[23:07] <apwbdjp> Timewarper, no, I don't know why actually..
[23:07] <vergil> who_: Let your battery run all the way out.
[23:07] <apwbdjp> Timewarper, check out man dd, there's a lot in there
[23:07] <escott> Timewarper, did you look at the man page lines I suggested to you that do exactly what you are asking for?
[23:07] <vergil> who_: Your estimator is inaccurate (for lack of a better term).
[23:08] <Timewarper> apwbdjp, kk thanks
[23:09] <who_> vergil_: 30% inaccurate ? each time ? exactly 30% ?
[23:09] <monkeypaw> escott, should I follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Plymouth#Showing_old_Text-based_Boot ?
[23:09] <vivian> hey guys :) I have this usb memory drive branded Merck that my 10.04 lts desktop doesn't recognize at all (it's not in: fdisk -l) and I tried to google it but I can't find an answer to this problem. Anyone able to help me out here?
[23:09] <vergil> who_: Or you can ask someone else or google the subject if you don't believe me.
[23:09] <vivian> my laptop running 11.04 recognizes it though
[23:10] <vergil> who_: Not really into arguing with people I'm trying to help.
[23:10] <who_> vergil_: I believe you, I was trying to explain why I thought there was a problem at the first place.
[23:10] <escott> monkeypaw, i always disable plymouth so sure
[23:10] <jrogge> hey is there any way other thanswitching themes to make the terminal not translucent?
[23:10] <vergil> who_: Running your battery through a cycle will rule out a software battery life estimation issue
[23:10] <who_> vergil_: I'm sorry, english is not my 1st language, if I was rude, I apologize.
[23:11] <vergil> who_: if it doesn't fix it, you have to make a deeper dive.
[23:11] <monkeypaw> escott!!
[23:11] <monkeypaw> It booted
[23:11] <monkeypaw> I guess it was just a very long fsck
[23:11] <Alia1> jrogge: What terminal? GNOME terminal?
[23:12] <vivian> anyone able to help me please? I did my homework but I just can't find a fix to my problem :(
[23:12] <jrogge> yeah, i think. I'm pretty new to linux.
[23:12] <monkeypaw> Thank you all very much for your help.  I learned a bit about plymouth
[23:13] <jrogge> i really like the theme dust for everything but the fact that the terminal is translucent
[23:13] <Alia1> jrogge: if you right click anywhere in the terminal then select profile -> profile preferences. Maybe that is what you want.
[23:13] <Alia1> the background tab
[23:13] <slorbast> Running 11.04(Natty), anyone know any good imagining software. Like to take an image of my computer's state for offline re-install if need be?
[23:13] <Alia1> then
[23:13] <jrogge> beautiful!
[23:13] <jrogge> thanks, that works!
[23:13] <Alia1> np
[23:14] <who_> vergil_: ok then, I will run it through a cycle first to see if it goes away. Thank you. So are there any softwares/packages that give me more detailed access to battery settings I could install? I am on a samsung
[23:14] <vivian> hello? would someone confirm I am in this room? can you see my posts please?
[23:14] <slorbast> vivian yes, I can see
[23:14] <mtrd`> vivian, yes.
[23:15] <jeeves_moss> is there a way to get my bluetooth headphones to default to using A2DP each time?
[23:15] <vivian> ok good... thought maybe not ;)
[23:15] <vivian> so is anyone familiar with making usb flash drives work?
[23:15] <aeon-ltd> vivian: uuhh they usually just do...?
[23:16] <m_fulder> is it possible to have two partitions on same HDD both with different ubuntu instances. .. cause Im trying here to install two different ubuntu instances but on bootup I can only choose one of them and can't boot up from the second :S why is that??
[23:16] <vivian> right but I'm asking for help because this usual behavior is not happening
[23:16] <Timewarper> apwbdjp, by the way  some told me
[23:17] <Timewarper> dd if=/dev/urandom | pv | dd of=/dev/sdb
[23:17] <Timewarper> what the f is that?
[23:17] <aeon-ltd> m_fulder: because there is only one GRUB likely it can't find the other partition's OS, what version is it?
[23:17] <vivian> fdisk -l doesn't show the usb drive there and disk utility either
[23:17] <m_fulder> aeon-ltd both versions are 11.10
[23:17] <aeon-ltd> m_fulder: unrelated but, why would you want 2 of the same?
[23:17] <david028> Hi I installed ubuntu alongside windows and would like to start new with a fresh install. I have been told to run gparted on the livecd and destroy the linux and swap partitions and leave them formated. Then reinstall from the CD. Is destroy mean delete? I have ext4, and linux swap inside extended. Do I delete extended too?
[23:18] <m_fulder> aeon-ltd I will delete the first one later on .. but have it as backup and want to copy some files into my new installation
[23:18] <aeon-ltd> david028: you don't have to delete the swap, you can re-use the swap partition
[23:18] <apwbdjp> Timewarper, I never heard of pv, but if it's a way to measure the size of that data that flows through it, then it might be a clever idea
[23:20] <Timewarper> apwbdjp, from googling it seems to monitor data through a pipeline
[23:20] <apwbdjp> Timewarper, right! pv is a pipeviewer, whatever data it recieves, it'll output it back to the next pipe, but will also print (through stderr I believe) the size of the datas that are flowing through it
[23:20] <Timewarper> you redirect data through that
[23:20] <david028> aeon-ltd: ok thanks but I should destroy whats on it? I dont realy understand /dev/sda2 extended contains ext4 and swap. Should I delete /dev/sda2 extended or just the ext4 linux part
[23:20] <Timewarper> its also better cause it has a progress bar an ETA
[23:20] <Timewarper> USR1 doesnt afaik
[23:21] <aeon-ltd> m_fulder: okay have you tried running 'update-grub'?
[23:21] <david028> aeon-ltd: if I delete will it stay formated? It just changes to unallocated no longer mentions ext4. I havent commited anything yet
[23:21] <apwbdjp> Timewarper, I'd find it weird that it has a progress bar, since it doesn't know the size of the hard drive
[23:22] <m_fulder> aeon-ltd update-grub on my frist OS partition?
[23:22] <Timewarper> apwbdjp, thats according to the command description from a linux site
[23:22] <Timewarper> i dont know maybe its for special cases
[23:22] <bfreis> Hey, my system crashes after a few minutes when I press the Enter key, once perr boot. It goes back to the graphical login screen. I've seen that the first terminal (ctrl+alt+1) gets loaded of junk characters. It seems that what I'm seeing is exactly this bug back from 2009: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/util-linux/+bug/396226 . It wasn't happening on Natty, it started happening on Oneiric!
[23:22] <cablop> damn
[23:22] <aeon-ltd> david028: it changes to unallocated, all data will be destroyed/deleted. you can probably just delete the ext4 part then when choosing a swap partition just choose the existing one
[23:22] <javier_faj> is it normal "Tx excessive retries:1992"?
[23:22] <cablop> no screensaver in gnome3? are they crazy? are they... ahem... nazi?
[23:23] <Timewarper> apwbdjp, but you can measure the ETA + make a % done  from the output of USR1
[23:23] <Timewarper> so maybe it calculates those by itself
[23:23] <aeon-ltd> m_fulder: yes if that partition has GRUB on it, or if separate /boot partition, the first will do
[23:23] <Timewarper> also USR1 spits kb/s of dd
[23:23] <apwbdjp> Timewarper, You can measure it because you know the size of the hard drive, so you know how much left there is to be done
[23:23] <david028> aeon-ltd: ok thanks i will do that. Should I leave "swapon" or "swapoff"?
[23:24] <m_fulder> aeon-ltd sec will try that on soon :)
[23:24] <apwbdjp> Timewarper, even dd doesn't know that until /dev/sdb says it's full
[23:24] <Timewarper> good point
[23:24] <aeon-ltd> david028: what? that will be irrelevant when you aren't booted in and using the sawp
[23:24] <aeon-ltd> *swap
[23:25] <bfreis> How can I add "Oneiric" to the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/util-linux/+bug/396226 ?
[23:25] <Timewarper> apwbdjp, also i think piping through pv will maybe make an already slow proccess, even slower
[23:25] <kcw45> as an alternative to dd, there is also dcfldd.  i believe this has a progress bar
[23:25] <Timewarper> i will just use the signal USR1 when i need to check
[23:25] <Timewarper> thanks
[23:25] <apwbdjp> Timewarper, pv is estetically better, refreshes better and is faster to do, but I believe asking dd about what it's doing is better
[23:25] <bfreis> looks like some kind of regression
[23:25] <apwbdjp> Timewarper, anytime
[23:25] <david028> aeon-ltd: ok just that the tutorial I had mentioned turning it off from the live cd. http://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/reinstallation
[23:25] <reisio> Timewarper: didn't catch if anyone said, pv is an app that gives you a progress bar
[23:25] <aeon-ltd> david028: heh alright then.
[23:26] <Timewarper> reisio, well yes but if i use it in dd
[23:26] <Timewarper> it cant know the % of progress
[23:26] <reisio> Timewarper: you know how big the disk is
[23:26] <Timewarper> yes but i think dd doesnt provide that information
[23:27] <reisio> it doesn't really matter, for any remotely high capacity disk, it's going to take a long long time
[23:27] <reisio> you won't be watching it
[23:27] <reisio> just tag && echo -e '\a' on the end or the like
[23:27] <reisio> && mplayer annoyingmusic
[23:28] <apwbdjp> reisio, I like that ^^ Never thought of it!
[23:30] <Bullworth> hello ?
[23:30] <reisio> hi
[23:30] <Bullworth> ha lol ok it works
[23:30] <Bullworth> is my first time on irc since looong time
[23:31] <reisio> ah
[23:31] <Bullworth> can i ask questions here about using an ubuntu server ?
[23:31] <reisio> but I'm your imaginary friend
[23:31] <reisio> sure
[23:31] <Bullworth> :D
[23:31] <Bullworth> lol
[23:31] <ZekeS> !ask | Bullworth
[23:31] <ZekeS> :3
[23:32] <Bullworth> Im total rookie on using linux and i have started my journey in this
[23:32] <Bullworth> now i know in DOS you could make pagebreaks when using the command to list a directory
[23:32] <Nikodean> Hello.
[23:33] <Bullworth> how do create pagebreaks in aloong diectory listing
[23:33] <Jordan_U> Bullworth: ls | less
[23:33] <Nikodean> I am now in Ubuntu 11.10 for the first time, and I don't know how to create new panels in this new interface? I really need to. Help?
[23:33] <Bullworth> ill try that :)
[23:34] <kcw45> Bullworth, "ls -l" (that's an 'el') will give you even more detail and line break the output for you
[23:34] <Bullworth> ow dear
[23:34] <Bullworth> Jordan ?
[23:35] <Bullworth> how do i get out of that
[23:35] <Bullworth> it ended with <END>
[23:35] <kcw45> Bullworth, hit q on keyboard
[23:35] <Bullworth> lol
[23:35] <Bullworth> tnx
[23:35] <Alia1> How do I disable appmenu in Oneiric for a specific application? APPMENU_PROXY does nothing , APPMENU_DISPLAY_BOTH works.
[23:36] <eHAPPY> whats the command to show numeric ACL ?
[23:37]  * angiolucci 
[23:37] <alnewkirk> is there a way to load my web browser first like the chromebook?
[23:37] <eHAPPY> you mean with no "OS" ?
[23:38] <alnewkirk> sorta
[23:38] <alnewkirk> I want the OS there, just lazy-load it
[23:38] <alnewkirk> or similar
[23:38] <reisio> you can have chromium start by default quite easily
[23:38] <Bullworth> is there also another way the just ls | less to display a lonng directory listing (eg. break it up as loong things fit on the visible screen) and with columns or something
[23:39] <Nikodean> I cannot even find the software that is installed, I only see a few programs in the big launcher to the left of the screen. Could someone please help me? I can't do anything
[23:39] <alnewkirk> reisio, can I close it and use the OS easily?
[23:40] <reisio> alnewkirk: course why wouldn't you be able to
[23:40] <reisio> alnewkirk: http://shuffleos.com/3629/how-to-make-applications-auto-startup-for-all-users-in-ubuntu-11-10/
[23:41] <alnewkirk> wait, chromium is just the browser
[23:41] <alnewkirk> doh
[23:41] <reisio> right
[23:41] <alnewkirk> okay, basically I'd like my laptop to boot as quickly as possible, like the chromebook which essentially only loads the relevent bits needed for the browser
[23:42] <eHAPPY> then get syslinux and install only a browser
[23:43] <escott> alnewkirk, at the point at which the browser is ready to use there isn't much that hasnt started
[23:43] <jrogge> hey i accidentally removed the side bar in my home folder thingy, so now i have to manually go through the whole directory to get somewhere, does anyonw know how i can put the sidebar back in?
[23:43] <alnewkirk> okay, I see
[23:43] <alnewkirk> thanks guys
[23:43] <reisio> alnewkirk: they just use a great big initrd and a cut-down X AFAIK
[23:44] <crca> Occupy computing channel #occupytools
[23:44] <Jordan_U> crca: Please don't advertise other channels here.
[23:44] <crca> np
[23:45] <jrogge> anyone know?
[23:45] <eHAPPY> view > sidebar
[23:45] <eHAPPY> or F9
[23:45] <jrogge> thanks!
[23:46] <jrogge> thank you so much! that was frustrating me a lot, herp a derp. i guess i need to start looking at that panel at the top more
[23:46] <jrogge> thanks again, bye!
[23:48] <m_fulder> aeon-ltd thanks a lot :D it worked!
[23:49] <patrick> oi]
[23:50] <mihnea> hello all.. it's my first time here.
[23:50] <smf> welcome :)
[23:51] <Guest63715> patrick queiroz
[23:51] <mihnea> so.. if i have problems with ubunt I can ask here and maybe someone will answer ?
[23:51] <reisio> mihnea: yup
[23:51] <mihnea> nice
[23:51] <Guest63715> ililiili[
[23:51] <Guest63715> ikhi
[23:51] <Guest63715> jo
[23:51] <Guest63715> [hpjo´oj
[23:51] <FloodBot1> Guest63715: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:52] <mihnea> guys. what irc client do you use?.. i never used one in 10 years.. and it was on windows ofc
[23:52] <kcw45> mihnea, i like xchat
[23:52] <eHAPPY> mirc, bitchx, irssi, xchat
[23:52] <szal> !ot | mihnea
[23:53] <mihnea> ok. this one i got
[23:53] <reisio> mihnea: XChat is the most popular graphical one
[23:54] <Guest2919> isnt there an option to change this on ubuntu?
[23:54] <reisio> Guest2919: this what?
[23:56] <Guest2919> sorry reisio. ill explain again. my friend used up his last option of changing the dvd region on windows. now the dvd player doesnot play dvds. i tried installing ubuntu to circumvent this, but dvds fo not play here either. is there a solution to this on ubuntu?
[23:57] <reisio> Guest2919: mmmmm, dunno
[23:57] <reisio> Guest2919: try dd'ing it maybe
[23:57] <escott> Guest2919, no its in the firmware. some drives allow you to change the region to an "unspecified region" but if yours doesn't you can mail the brick to the mpaa
[23:58] <usr13> !dvd | Guest2919
[23:58] <mihnea> i don't think so... as i know the region thing is burned into the dvd somehow...
[23:58] <mihnea> (dvd player)
[23:58] <Guest2919> reisio, what is dd-ing?
[23:58] <escott> Guest2919, its not relevant to your question
[23:59] <reisio> dd if=/dev/dvd of=path/to/dvdimage.dd