| GridCube | so when we should start testings? | 02:04 |
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| TVasEyes | hi, | 02:56 |
| TVasEyes | probably not the right place to ask but I've tried xubuntu & xubuntu-offtopic already | 02:57 |
| TVasEyes | need help with mount.cifs issue | 02:57 |
| TVasEyes | getting error 13 when issuing command which works on a different Linux box | 02:57 |
| TVasEyes | connecting to NAS | 02:57 |
| TVasEyes | anyone able to help? | 02:58 |
| holstein | connecting how? | 02:59 |
| holstein | NM... i see you found someone | 02:59 |
| TVasEyes | holstein: will converse on xubuntu channel or here? | 03:00 |
| holstein | nah, if Unit193 cant help you, i cant | 03:02 |
| holstein | i just didnt want to leave you hanging | 03:02 |
| TVasEyes | holstein: thanks, appreciated. | 03:03 |
| Unit193 | Since when am I smarter? And dang, I had a few things to try... | 03:25 |
| knome | micahg, is there any way to fight the white icons on light grey in tb except creating a new icon theme?? | 15:38 |
| knome | micahg, (or editing userchrome) | 15:39 |
| knome | (that at least makes the text a bit more readable) | 15:39 |
| astraljava | Is the meeting today or tomorrow? | 16:08 |
| knome | no meeting has been announced | 16:09 |
| knome | bah | 16:09 |
| knome | i'm not sure i can make it tomorrrow | 16:09 |
| astraljava | Oh okay, yeah I now recall the change in the schedules. | 16:15 |
| knome | madnick, wb | 17:19 |
| madnick | thanks! | 17:19 |
| micahg | knome: yes, I have to report a bug to mozilla, they said they'd fix it | 18:48 |
| micahg | knome: no meeting? are we doing alpha 1? | 18:49 |
| * madnick also wonders about meeting, but thinks its in 1½ hours? | 19:17 | |
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| ochosi | so i guess we won't have a meeting in 5min? | 20:55 |
| * madnick pokes knome | 20:57 | |
| ochosi | :) | 20:57 |
| ochosi | think he's not here | 20:57 |
| madnick | I think he said, last time, that we would have a meeting today | 20:59 |
| ochosi | hm, i thought he said he'd have friends over tonight | 21:01 |
| madnick | Yes, he does | 21:03 |
| madnick | But he said: "knomecan we just postpone to next week?" :P | 21:03 |
| Unit193 | [11:09:17] < knome> i'm not sure i can make it tomorrrow | 21:05 |
| Unit193 | Looks like he also had wrong day | 21:05 |
| madnick | :P | 21:05 |
| ochosi | we can also do some kind of informal meeting :) | 21:11 |
| ochosi | what've you all been up to? | 21:11 |
| ochosi | (knome will read the backlog anyway) | 21:12 |
| madnick | yes | 21:12 |
| madnick | i suppose that would be good | 21:13 |
| ochosi | k, well madnick why don't you start with a quick update on your recent tasks (lightdm-settings-ui and greeter-theme)? | 21:14 |
| madnick | Okay | 21:15 |
| madnick | The greeter implements 90% of all functionallity available, the themeing library is also comming along nicely | 21:16 |
| madnick | The settings UI, is ~done, that is, we need to discuss if people shall be able to change their pictures from the GUI | 21:16 |
| madnick | As for the theme itself, it does everything that is currently handed out to me :P | 21:17 |
| madnick | .. | 21:17 |
| ochosi | :) | 21:18 |
| ochosi | yeah, just a quick update from upstream-xfce | 21:18 |
| ochosi | a user-settings UI is in the works | 21:18 |
| ochosi | people will also be able to change their avatars there | 21:18 |
| ochosi | so maybe better keep it there than in lightdm-settings | 21:18 |
| ochosi | since it's global | 21:19 |
| madnick | Will we get that in time? | 21:19 |
| ochosi | good question | 21:19 |
| ochosi | tbh i don't know | 21:19 |
| ochosi | there is no ETA yet | 21:19 |
| ochosi | but i don't think that it'd be a very complicated thing to do | 21:20 |
| ochosi | so it's possible, but not sure | 21:20 |
| madnick | It feels like it would be very good to keep it separated, but on the other hand, if people can't change it, except for manually, its not good | 21:20 |
| ochosi | yes, i mean if you don't feel you're wasting your time implementing it now and possibly dropping it later... | 21:20 |
| ochosi | (this is the wiki-page for all of you who are interested: http://wiki.xfce.org/design/xfce4-settings/useraccounts ) | 21:21 |
| madnick | That pretty much outdates the entire GUI, since it will have a setting for autologin | 21:21 |
| madnick | Which was the main idea for the settings GUI | 21:22 |
| ochosi | i'm not sure that setting will work for lightdm | 21:22 |
| ochosi | depends on what the accountservice package can do | 21:23 |
| ochosi | furthermore: a gui to change the lightdm-greeter-theme is still valuable in itself | 21:23 |
| madnick | That is true | 21:23 |
| ochosi | this is more meant as a simplified replacement of users-admin | 21:23 |
| ochosi | without all the group-settings etc. that users-admin gives you | 21:24 |
| ochosi | not even sure i'd ditch users-admin for it, since this is just simple and basic | 21:24 |
| * micahg guesses there will be no xubuntu alpha 1 | 21:24 | |
| ochosi | hm, why's that? | 21:25 |
| ochosi | and: would we need it? | 21:25 |
| micahg | since we're not planning | 21:25 |
| micahg | well, would be nice | 21:25 |
| ochosi | mhm | 21:25 |
| ochosi | what would have to be done in terms of planning? | 21:26 |
| madnick | Perhaps we could put that on the ML | 21:26 |
| madnick | as urgent | 21:26 |
| ochosi | yeah, not a bad idea | 21:26 |
| micahg | we need people committing to test basically, I don't think charlie was planning for an alpha 1 which is why we're not ready for it | 21:26 |
| ochosi | ok, so basically we need testers | 21:27 |
| ochosi | where's GridCube? | 21:27 |
| ochosi | anyone else here who can test? | 21:27 |
| madnick | From what I understand, we are supposed to use a new testing software | 21:27 |
| micahg | I brought this up last week and thought that a community meeting would be the best forum to discuss/plan for alpha1 | 21:27 |
| madnick | http://91.189.93.73/ | 21:28 |
| ochosi | mhm | 21:28 |
| madnick | And I don't know how to use that | 21:28 |
| micahg | that's the new ISO tracker | 21:28 |
| madnick | Yes, but also for daily testing | 21:28 |
| ochosi | micahg: do you know how it works? | 21:28 |
| micahg | no, not really | 21:28 |
| ochosi | hm, o | 21:28 |
| ochosi | k | 21:28 |
| ochosi | so i guess we need to fgure out how it works and find people who are willing to work with it | 21:29 |
| micahg | seems like a lot to do in 3 days | 21:30 |
| ochosi | yes, i guess so | 21:30 |
| ochosi | but we can still give it a shot | 21:30 |
| madnick | Would be nice to get a green light on what to do :P | 21:30 |
| ochosi | would you be willing to write the message to the ML explaining the basics? | 21:30 |
| ochosi | yeah, but i'm not sure knome would oppose this. i mean the only reason not to try is if we think our chances are too bad to even try | 21:31 |
| ochosi | i'd say it's a bit up to you micahg | 21:33 |
| micahg | sorry, I have enough things to do this week already, I can try to fix bugs if they come up | 21:35 |
| ochosi | ok, no problem | 21:35 |
| ochosi | i'll talk to knome later when he's around again and we'll see whether we'll send out an email to the ML about this or just skip alpha1 | 21:35 |
| ochosi | micahg: about the thunderbird bug that knome mentioned earlier, how would you say our chances are that this gets fixed in time for precise? | 21:37 |
| ochosi | (just to know whether we should prepare ugly workarounds) | 21:37 |
| micahg | ochosi: pretty good, probably by alpha 2 if I get around to filing it :) | 21:37 |
| ochosi | ok :) | 21:37 |
| ochosi | sounds good | 21:37 |
| ochosi | micahg: any other updates from your side? | 21:39 |
| micahg | nope | 21:39 |
| ochosi | mr_pouit: are you here? if yes, any updates from your side? | 21:39 |
| ochosi | k, i guess that's a no :) | 21:43 |
| ochosi | edii: any news on the menu-bookmark-editor? | 21:43 |
| micahg | mr_pouit did a xfce4-timer-plugin merge :) | 21:44 |
| ochosi | oh nice :) | 21:44 |
| ochosi | btw, it would be nice if some of you could test the datetime-plugin from the shimmer ppa to see what you think about replacing the current panel-clock with it | 21:45 |
| madnick | I'm sorry, I have to go for a while, it is urgent. | 21:45 |
| ochosi | (it mainly contains a small patch to hide the border and resize-grip, other than that it's the same as in the ubuntu repos) | 21:45 |
| ochosi | k, see you madnick | 21:45 |
| ochosi | pleia2: any updates on the next website sprint or the website in general? | 21:46 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: I think I can as I'm using it now (on Natty though) | 21:49 |
| ochosi | Unit193: would you say it's a good replacement for the current implementation? | 21:50 |
| Unit193 | xfce4-datetime-plugin | 21:50 |
| ochosi | yes | 21:50 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: I like it far better! | 21:50 |
| ochosi | ok, good to know :) | 21:50 |
| ochosi | have you seen how it'd look with greybird? | 21:50 |
| Unit193 | Only thing, when I click back to terminal, I'd like for it to close, not go under terminal | 21:50 |
| ochosi | mhm | 21:51 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: I have not, but I suppose if I must ;) | 21:51 |
| ochosi | best to file a bugreport about that upstream | 21:51 |
| ochosi | Unit193: no you don't have to ;) | 21:51 |
| ochosi | i just gave it a dark look | 21:51 |
| ochosi | to look more like the indicators and other stuff that pops up from the panel | 21:51 |
| Unit193 | I'll check anyway, PPA link/name? | 21:51 |
| ochosi | hmm, i'm afraid the package is only for oneiric... https://launchpad.net/~shimmerproject/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=natty | 21:52 |
| ochosi | theoretically you could download the package and just install it | 21:52 |
| ochosi | don't think it'd break anything | 21:53 |
| Unit193 | Done that more times than I'd like to admit, but I try not to break things | 21:53 |
| ochosi | https://launchpad.net/~shimmerproject/+archive/ppa | 21:53 |
| ochosi | ok :) | 21:53 |
| ochosi | well i can alternatively also show you a screenshot if you like | 21:53 |
| Unit193 | Well, I take it you can't build for natty? (I'm going to download the deb) | 21:54 |
| ochosi | not really, mr_pouit built the package ;) | 21:54 |
| Unit193 | Awww... It removed my time :/ | 21:57 |
| Unit193 | (Settings) | 21:58 |
| ochosi | you mean it removed the settings? | 21:58 |
| ochosi | right | 21:58 |
| ochosi | sorry to hear.. | 21:58 |
| ochosi | i'm using this btw: %a %d %b %R | 21:58 |
| Unit193 | I had something close to that, have it on two computers (So I can get it back soon, use that for now) | 21:59 |
| ochosi | ok | 21:59 |
| Unit193 | Anything else? | 21:59 |
| ochosi | not from my side | 21:59 |
| ochosi | btw, have you used the testing-site linked to earlier? | 22:00 |
| Unit193 | Looked at it once | 22:00 |
| Unit193 | Only issue, can't login :P | 22:03 |
| knome | yeah, i think any kind of informal and even impromptu meetings are great, if you give any updates though, add them to the teamreports so we can forward them to ubuntu-release with madnick :) | 22:09 |
| Sysi | would it be too late to discuss including pavucontrol to default installation? I could file some bugs with lacky pulseaudio control.. | 22:12 |
| knome | isn't that included in oneiric? | 22:12 |
| knome | or is it again one of those things we planned, but nobody told lionel to add it to seeds? | 22:13 |
| Sysi | I don't have it.. | 22:13 |
| knome | right | 22:13 |
| knome | mr_pouit, !! | 22:13 |
| micahg | no, we decided against it since it seemed to be not needed | 22:20 |
| micahg | we already have the xfce4-mixer | 22:20 |
| Sysi | no way to select sound output device which is basically reason to have pulseaudio in the first place | 22:21 |
| knome | micahg, is pavucontrol big? | 22:22 |
| micahg | Sysi: xfce4-mixer does that | 22:24 |
| Sysi | micahg: oh, I should test it (more) | 22:24 |
| Sysi | I think nobody at #xubuntu has ever mentioned it | 22:24 |
| micahg | knome: by itself it's 150k, not sure about the libraries it uses though | 22:24 |
| micahg | the only thing pavucontrol does that xfce4-mixer doesn't is to redirect audio streams which makes sense for Ubuntu Studio, but not us | 22:28 |
| Sysi | I'd say this is good news, gotta check it out | 22:29 |
| Sysi | ..if I can use two soundcards | 22:30 |
| micahg | AFAIK, it should work | 22:30 |
| knome | mmh | 22:30 |
| micahg | but if not, let us know | 22:30 |
| Sysi | just by selecting device in xfce4-mixer? | 22:30 |
| knome | there seems to be problems with devices | 22:30 |
| micahg | well, if we have test cases, let | 22:31 |
| micahg | s get bugs filed, we're at the beginning of the cycle | 22:31 |
| Sysi | I can only test till january and even now limitedly.. | 22:33 |
| Sysi | is ubuntu-bug good way to report bugs or is something more manual better? | 22:34 |
| Sysi | I haven't checked out ubuntu-bug yet though | 22:35 |
| micahg | ubuntu-bug is better | 22:37 |
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