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| agateau | morning! | 08:38 |
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| agateau | having spent the weekend with the new kmail maintainer, I decided to give it another try (call me crazy or something...). Thus a first question: am I the only one who can't send email? | 08:38 |
| agateau | (that's a quite serious problem for a mail client...) | 08:39 |
| jussi | agateau: whats your email address? | 08:40 |
| agateau | jussi: I have been using aurelien.gateau@free.fr for my tests, why? | 08:41 |
| jussi | agateau: it appears to have sent. did you get it? | 08:42 |
| agateau | jussi: yes, got it | 08:43 |
| agateau | so it works for you | 08:43 |
| jussi | agateau: so it works here | 08:43 |
| agateau | mmm | 08:43 |
| agateau | jussi: are you running 4.7.2? | 08:44 |
| jussi | jussi@squirrel:~$ apt-cache policy kmail | 08:44 |
| jussi | kmail: | 08:44 |
| jussi | Installed: 4:4.7.2+git111007-0ubuntu1 | 08:44 |
| jussi | Candidate: 4:4.7.2+git111007-0ubuntu1 | 08:44 |
| agateau | jussi: same here, thanks | 08:46 |
| agateau | will ping maintainer then | 08:46 |
| jussi | agateau: you sure you have yoursmtp settings correct? | 08:46 |
| agateau | jussi: I checked them twice, and I don't get any error: the message just stay there | 08:47 |
| jussi | agateau: and authentication/security is all good? | 08:47 |
| agateau | jussi: it is | 08:47 |
| jussi | strange. Im using gmail for mine, but still. | 08:48 |
| agateau | jussi: it is the same settings which used to work with kmail 1.x | 08:48 |
| agateau | my mail host provides multiple smtp configs though, I am going to try a few others | 08:48 |
| jussi | agateau: double check the port - when I selected tls here it gave me a strange port | 08:49 |
| agateau | jussi: ok, but then it should at least complain that it doesn't work | 08:49 |
| jussi | agateau: yes, I agree. | 08:50 |
| jussi | agateau: also, while I have you - do you have the same spacing issue as me: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/11/28/plasma-desktopGm2166.jpg | 08:51 |
| jussi | (thats the number of mails for each folder) | 08:51 |
| agateau | jussi: what is the issue here? | 08:51 |
| jussi | agateau: those numbers are _really_ close to the divider... | 08:52 |
| jussi | looks horible | 08:52 |
| agateau | jussi: ah right, it's close here as well | 08:53 |
| agateau | jussi: but what I do is just get rid of the column by unselecting it from the header context menu | 08:53 |
| jussi | agateau: if you speak to the maintainer, please let him know that IMHO that is horrible. | 08:53 |
| agateau | jussi: i don't really need it | 08:53 |
| agateau | jussi: it's just a little less annoying than not being able to send mail :) | 08:54 |
| agateau | i'd rather get rid of the column for good (and keep the info in a tooltip), but people would complain | 08:54 |
| jussi | agateau: yes, this is very true - and not being able to send mail *and* have no error message iis even worse | 08:55 |
| agateau | jussi: so... in case you hear someone else with the same problem, the answer was: I probably had a wrong password for my smtp server. kmail just did not ask for it again | 09:12 |
| agateau | jussi: I restarted akonadi and it prompted me for my password, then send the email | 09:13 |
| jussi | agateau: ahh, thought it might be something like that. | 09:18 |
| danimo | debfx: ping? | 11:26 |
| debfx | danimo: pong | 11:26 |
| danimo | debfx: had to close https://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTCREATORBUG-6582 | 11:27 |
| danimo | debfx: for OSes with GCC 4.6, you need Qt 4.8 | 11:27 |
| danimo | debfx: luckily this won't be a problem for 12.04 | 11:27 |
| danimo | debfx: and for older versions of Ubuntu (i.e. backports): They use GCC 4.5 | 11:27 |
| danimo | debfx: so a backport of the 12.04 packages should be fine | 11:28 |
| debfx | heh, that information comes a little late | 11:29 |
| debfx | danimo: we can't backport it to 11.10 then, right? since 11.10 uses gcc 4.6 | 11:32 |
| danimo | debfx: too bad then, but 11.04 should be possible | 11:33 |
| danimo | debfx: well, it's always possible to try and backport the patch that fixes the problem. I doubt it will apply cleanly against 4.7.4 though | 11:33 |
| debfx | not in the official backports since later ubuntu releases need to have at least the same version of the package | 11:35 |
| danimo | debfx: is Creator compiled without strict-aliasing as well? | 11:39 |
| debfx | danimo: not unless it's enabled in qtcreator's build system | 11:40 |
| debfx | nope, you think that's worth a try? | 11:40 |
| danimo | debfx: better than giving up | 11:41 |
| danimo | debfx: I did install 12.04 in a vm, and I can try and play a bit with it | 12:03 |
| debfx | danimo: -fno-strict-aliasing doesn't help | 12:48 |
| danimo | debfx: damn | 12:56 |
| danimo | debfx: anyway, 4.8.0 is around the corner | 12:57 |
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| Mamarok | hi everyone :) | 13:39 |
| Mamarok | Riddell: when can we expect a newer libsoprano4 in Oneiric? You ship a very old version, there have been a lot of bug fixes since 2.7.0, current is 2.7.3 and it is highly recommended to upgrade the version. | 13:40 |
| Mamarok | most Nepomuk related bug reports from Oneiric are related to it BTW, so a backport is needed | 13:41 |
| Mamarok | see also http://trueg.wordpress.com/2011/11/02/kde-4-7-3-the-first-nepomuk-stability-release/ | 13:42 |
| ScottK | Mamarok: I think "You ship a very old version" is a little unfair. Up until two days before Oneiric was released, it was the version upstream recommended. | 14:12 |
| Mamarok | ScottK: OK, but it should really be upgraded, as it fixes most bugs reported in Oneiric | 14:14 |
| Mamarok | and it is recommended for the version shipped with KDE 4.7.3 which is in our backports after all | 14:14 |
| Mamarok | it is actually that backports I was refering to | 14:17 |
| Mamarok | so if we provide backports they should be complete | 14:18 |
| ScottK | Generally we just backport KDE SC, but this does seem like a good exception. | 14:18 |
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| apachelogger_ | Mamarok, ScottK: until .3 is in updates I do not see a valid case for putting the new soprano into updates | 15:09 |
| ScottK | apachelogger_: Yeah, I'm looking at it for precise now. | 15:10 |
| apachelogger_ | the new soprano was *only* QA'd against 4.7.3, and considering the history of soprano 'bugfix' updates I'd argue that this is bogusy | 15:10 |
| apachelogger_ | ScottK: makes sense for precise | 15:10 |
| ScottK | Then we can decide about oneiric. | 15:11 |
| ScottK | It's actually nepomuk trying to reindex akonadi maildirs on every frickin' resume that's the reason I'm on Thunderbird for mail. | 15:11 |
| ScottK | So it'd be nice to get it working better. | 15:12 |
| apachelogger_ | ScottK: file a bug as long as upstream cares about fixing bugs :) | 15:13 |
| ScottK | Right. I'd like to see if it's fixed already first. | 15:13 |
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| ScottK | Mamarok: I just uploaded it to precise, so that's the first step ... | 15:34 |
| Mamarok | apachelogger_: I was talking about backports, not about updates, sorry id I expressed myself badly | 15:58 |
| Mamarok | where KDE 4.7.3 is | 15:58 |
| Mamarok | if* | 15:58 |
| apachelogger_ | Mamarok: PPA you mean? | 16:06 |
| Mamarok | apachelogger_: exactly, since it is required for KDE 4.7.3's Nepomuk | 16:06 |
| agateau | Riddell: hi, when you have time, can you have a look at my new massif-visualizer upload on revu ( http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=9348 )? | 16:07 |
| apachelogger_ | Mamarok: putting it into the .3 ppa would disturb .3 testing as soprano i not part of the KDE SRU exception | 16:34 |
| apachelogger_ | soo the way to go would be: get .3 into -updates, then get SRU soprano into -updates | 16:35 |
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| ScottK | apachelogger_: I think they could be done in separate bugs at the same time. | 17:20 |
| Riddell | ooh la la | 17:51 |
| apachelogger_ | ScottK: aye, but for PPA testing it certainly makes sense to do it without soprano | 19:07 |
| apachelogger_ | for actual SRU testing we can do both at the same time ... should issues appear that cannot be reproduced without proposed soprano it'd clearly be a problem with the new soprano | 19:08 |
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| ScottK | Is 4.7.3 all done (lost track)? | 21:17 |
| ScottK | Assuming it is, I think it's OK to put soprano in the PPA. | 21:18 |
| highvoltage | Darkwing: hey, are you around? | 21:25 |
| highvoltage | Darkwing: we just talked to the TB about the Edubuntu LTS status, and since it's dependent on Kubuntu's LTS status we're kind of keen to see what's going to happen with it | 21:26 |
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| highvoltage | Darkwing: The TB has another meeting in 2 weeks from now, do you think you could put together a wiki page for Kubuntu's LTS proposal? | 21:26 |
| ScottK | Kubuntu LTS is in question? | 21:27 |
| micahg | ScottK: I think it's more about how it wants to be an LTS vs whether or not it will be | 21:30 |
| ScottK | Not sure what that means? "How?" | 21:31 |
| micahg | 3 yr vs 5 yr, what level of support can be expected | 21:31 |
| micahg | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecognizedDerivatives | 21:31 |
| ScottK | Since KDE is in Main and there's no ISO respins after the next LTS, the additional support requirements for 3 versus 5 for Kubuntu are nil. | 21:34 |
| utusan | I see all these 4.7.3 updates but aren't those a waste if PP is 4.8? | 21:54 |
| utusan | And OO is still at 4.7.2 when it should benefit from all these updates | 22:01 |
| micahg | is someone working on the qt4-x11 .txt files + multiarch = breakage on precise? | 22:33 |
| micahg | ah, I found the bug | 22:34 |
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