[00:26] <genoobie> hey
[00:27] <genoobie> I am trying to map a network drive and I am kind of stuck
[03:56] <Folklore> trying to get lubuntu installed in vbox
[03:56] <Folklore> so far no dice
[04:01] <holstein> Folklore: would you like to talk about it?
[04:01] <Folklore> first time I tried it had some kinda error, forced me to reboot
[04:02] <Folklore> next time I have the cd(is iso on my computer) checked
[04:02] <Folklore> now it seems to be installing
[04:03] <holstein> yeah, i have had plenty of those 'some kind' of errors
[04:03] <holstein> vbox *will* do it though... not sure what you are experiencing
[04:10] <Folklore> yeah i'm just trying to intsall a linux that has a GUI and gcc
[04:10] <Folklore> lol
[04:10] <Folklore> ubuntu too slow,and unity was annoying
[04:11] <Folklore> someone recommend lubuntu
[04:18] <holstein> lubuntu is ubuntu with LXDE
[04:18] <holstein> if you have that ubuntu install with unity still around, you just install LXDE, or lubuntu-desktop
[04:19] <Folklore> nah deleted it and dang
[04:19] <Folklore> thought was more light weight than that
[04:21] <holstein> ?
[04:21] <holstein> than what?
[04:21] <holstein> the other ubuntu?
[04:21] <holstein> it is
[04:21] <Folklore> in the install I see this channel being advertised right now! yay!
[04:21] <Folklore> holstein yeah
[04:21] <holstein> lubuntu is very light
[04:21] <holstein> but its using the same repos
[04:21] <Folklore> have you tested in vbox?
[04:21] <holstein> Folklore: sure
[04:22] <holstein> and on metal
[04:22] <Folklore> you manage to get the shared folder workin?
[04:22] <Folklore> need a way to get my source onto it
[04:22] <Folklore> had trouble getting vbox to do that with other ubuntu install
[04:22] <Folklore> installed its guest tools
[04:22] <Folklore> etc... idk
[04:22] <holstein> sure
[04:22] <holstein> or dropbox
[04:23] <Folklore> ahh good idea
[04:23] <holstein> or a USB stick passed through
[04:23] <Folklore> I do have that installed in my host os
[04:23] <holstein> or ssh
[04:23] <holstein> ftp... whatever
[04:23] <Folklore> you're clever thanks
[04:23] <holstein> :)
[04:23] <Folklore> usb install froze my host os too,idk haven't had very good luck with vbox thus far
[04:24] <Folklore> but vmware expires in a few weeks
[04:24] <holstein> USB install?
[04:24] <Folklore> yeah in vbox
[04:24] <holstein> i have only used the downloaded iso
[04:24] <holstein> a virtual CD image
[04:24] <Folklore> no I mean't to share files
[04:24] <Folklore> from host to guest
[04:25] <holstein> Folklore: you need to add that functionality to vbox
[04:25] <holstein> USB support
[04:25] <Folklore> my lbuntu being installed from an iso no my host harddrive
[04:25] <Folklore> yeah that froze my computer idk why
[04:25] <holstein> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/get-your-usb-drives-to-work-with.html
[04:26] <holstein> not sure whats up with your host
[04:26] <holstein> i have ubuntu hosts
[04:26] <Folklore> my host is xp sp3
[04:27] <holstein> yeah, who knows
[04:27] <holstein> is that still supported?
[04:27] <Folklore> i'd imagine so
[04:27] <holstein> ?
[04:27] <holstein> heres a good troubleshooting tip... assuming nothing
[04:27] <Folklore> i'll try it again later
[04:27] <holstein> XP is 10 years old
[04:28] <holstein> i dont know if its still supported
[04:28] <Folklore> vbox download has xp listed
[04:28] <Folklore> and yes xp is still Microsoft supported
[04:28]  * holstein shrugs
[04:28] <Folklore> and xp rocks :D
[04:29] <holstein> i liked XP
[04:29] <holstein> i couldnt imagine using it now
[04:29] <Folklore> why's that
[04:29] <holstein> its just a bit dated for my needs/wants
[04:29] <Folklore> sp3 came out in 2008
[04:30] <Folklore> neither computer hardware or software has really changed that much in 3 years lol
[04:30] <JadedJacob> the smart status on my drive says "Disk has a few bad sectors" How can I scan for bad sectors in ubuntu?
[04:30] <Folklore> my computers old anyway, 6-9 years at least
[04:31] <holstein> JadedJacob: you can check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SystemAdministration/Fsck
[04:31] <holstein> you can use a live CD... you dont want to do that while its mounted
[04:32] <holstein> i like http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ .. but any live diagnostic CD'll do the trick :)
[04:32] <holstein> Folklore: ubuntu 11.10 is quite different than ubuntu 10.04
[04:32] <Folklore> how so? cause of unity?
[04:32] <holstein> i find the linux distros are able to move a litte faster
[04:33] <Folklore> just got lubuntu installed yay!
[04:33] <holstein> which can be good or bad
[04:34] <JadedJacob> REALLOCATED SECTORS COUNT,normalized:97, worst: 97, threshold 36, value 136 sectors
[04:35] <holstein> JadedJacob: yeah... just back up your data, and cross your fingers
[04:35] <holstein> thats not as scary as ive seen
[04:36] <Folklore> lubuntu startup is pretty
[04:37] <holstein> yeah, its quite elegant for how light it is
[04:37] <JadedJacob> oh yeah, there's no way i'd put anything valuable on this machine
[04:37] <JadedJacob> so is it saying i have 136 bad sectors?
[04:38] <holstein> JadedJacob: relocated
[04:38] <holstein> and thats fine... there should be room for some bad ones
[04:38] <JadedJacob> ok I've just done a fresh install of lubuntu
[04:38] <holstein> mabye not 136, not sure
[04:38] <holstein> depends on the drive
[04:40] <JadedJacob> i'm a bit confused, does lubuntu detect bad sectors on the "/" partition during install?
[04:41] <holstein> JadedJacob: i think thats baked into the drive ?
[04:41] <holstein> not sure...
[04:47] <Folklore> can't get vbox
[04:47] <Folklore> guest addtions to install it popped up a cd rom in lubuntu and has files
[04:47] <Folklore> tried right clicking and clicked execute in terminal
[04:47] <Folklore> not doin anything
[04:50] <Folklore> nevermind got it
[04:51] <Folklore> had to just execute not execute in terminal
[04:52] <Joe___> Ethernet adapter installed and finding live network.  Sea monkey not able to find / connect to web pages.
[04:53] <Joe___> Using wireless with wep.
[04:58] <Folklore> Let me just say
[04:58] <Folklore> lubuntu is absolutely a piece of art
[04:58] <Folklore> it's not destroying my harddrive and cpu like ubuntu did
[04:59] <Joe___> Finding that
[04:59] <Folklore> this things barely using anything and runs fast, i'm very happy
[04:59] <Folklore> thank you all who've made it what it is
[05:01] <Folklore> any know what chrome uses for its gui/
[05:09] <JohnDoe_71Rus> Joe___: check up permissions /etc/resolv.conf if synaptic work fine
[05:56] <Folklore> dang trying to get gtk+ installed
[05:56] <Folklore> and read sudo aptitude install gnome-core-devel build-essential
[05:56] <Folklore> so changed to sudo apt-get install gnome-core-devel build-essential
[05:56] <Folklore> now is install this behemoth thats like 400mbs :(
[05:57] <Folklore> think sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev is all I needed
[10:35] <marko> Hi, how can I enable auto-login?
[10:38] <JohnDoe_71Rus> marko: sudo leafpad /etc/xdg/lubuntu/lxdm/lxdm.conf options autologin=user_name
[10:38] <Unit193> !gksu
[10:39] <Unit193> Correct location is /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf
[10:41] <JohnDoe_71Rus> Unit193: no
[10:41] <JohnDoe_71Rus> it is link
[10:41] <marko> Ok, do you know if there is a GUI for autologin? I forgot what it was...
[10:42] <Unit193> JohnDoe_71Rus: Not what ls -l shows for me >_>
[10:45] <JohnDoe_71Rus> Unit193: somebody do test  /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf not work. else present etc/lxdm/default.conf -> /etc/alternatives/lxdm.conf -> /etc/xdg/lubuntu/lxdm/lxdm.conf
[10:47] <bioterror> it once was: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#How_to_enable_automatic_logon_in_LXDM
[10:48] <Unit193> I'll have to check the autologin, see if it works
[10:48] <Unit193> 6am logic tells me that's what JohnDoe has
[13:09] <Neosano> is installing lubuntu daily okay?
[13:10] <Neosano> I mean, would I get all of the updates every day or I would have to reinstall from time to time?
[13:26] <iceroot> Neosano: updating the system with apt-get/aptitude will be ok
[13:26] <Neosano> ok :)
[13:26] <Neosano> I hope it's not that unstable
[13:38] <iceroot> Neosano: 12.04 is unstable, so use 11.10
[13:38] <iceroot> Neosano: daily builts are from 12.04
[13:42] <Neosano> yeah, I know...
[13:42] <Neosano> well I'm on 11.10 right now, but I screwed it up a little bit.
[13:42] <Neosano> don't want to install same version :)
[13:43] <iceroot> Neosano: then use unstable
[13:53] <uris> anyone gotten  windowmaker or xfce to work on lubuntu?
[13:53] <uris> i installed them from the repository, but when I can't log in to them
[14:20] <vanyok> Hello everybody. I have one small^W big note for lubuntu.net website. There is a typo on all pages including the main page: on the right side it should be written NOT 11.11 but version 11.10! Please, forward this to website maintainer. Thank you!
[14:22] <vanyok> Is it a message for #lubuntu-offtopic? I think it's a topic, not offtopic.
[14:23] <vanyok> OK, hope you've got it there. Mission completed. :) Have a nice day everyone!
[14:29] <Neosano> vanyok, haha, I noticed it too :D
[14:31] <vanyok> BTW, who is maintaining the website now? I remember there were some discussions and nobody wanted to take this.
[16:49] <kaipanoi> Greets! So, I've read FAQ/Guide and FAQ/Workarounds and I'm looking through the forums now, but I can't seem to configure my Lubuntu machines to leave the monitors on. They keep putting the monitors to sleep. Screensaver is disabled. Where is the power manager in Lubuntu?
[17:05] <kaipanoi> Okay, there's apparently no link in the menu to 'xfce4-power-manager-settings', which is what I was missing.
[20:02] <david_j_r> Hi - I'm trying to setup setxkbmap in Lubuntu - is there an app to tell me the names of keys?
[20:02] <david_j_r> e.g., by detecting keystroke?
[20:04] <bioterror> https://launchpad.net/lxkeymap
[20:06] <david_j_r> Thanks bioterror - I'm looking at it right now (the app is open, I mean)
[20:06] <david_j_r> but I don't see how it would tell me the name of a given key-stroke or combination?
[20:07] <david_j_r> This is for "key binding" purpose (if I have my terms right!)
[20:10] <david_j_r> Or failing that - just a list of "canonical" key names?
[20:11] <bioterror> I really cant fill your needs as I'm using always one and same keyboard layout. sorry for that
[20:12] <david_j_r> Thanks anyway - I've been googling and this may tell me what I'm trying to find out:
[20:12] <david_j_r> http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/xev-determine_custom_keybindings
[20:22] <david_j_r> @bioterror - xev was what I needed! works perfectly, and already available in Lubuntu. :)
[20:51] <adsworth> Hi, the Lubuntu 11.10 live system and im Ubuntu minimal install with LXDM as the login manager only boots to the console on my notebook. If I log into the console I can startx. Starting lxdm via sudo also works.
[20:51] <adsworth> Any one have a tip where I can look?
[20:51] <bioterror> sudo dpkg-reconfigure lxdm
[20:52] <adsworth> tried that. but I'll happily try again. As I metnion the Lubuntu live cd has the same problem where X doesn't automatically start.
[20:53] <bioterror> have you checked logs
[20:53] <bioterror> Xorg.0.log for example from /var/log/
[20:54] <adsworth> yeah, I chaecked Xorg.log lxdm.log but haven't really found anything useful.
[20:54] <adsworth> strange thing is that a sudo lxdm will launch it fine.
[20:54] <bioterror> how about sudo service lxdm start?
[20:55] <adsworth> will try that. bbiab
[20:55] <bioterror> and remember to check logs
[20:55] <bioterror> those usually tells what's the problem
[20:55] <bioterror> also startx is nice
[20:56] <bioterror> or rather: startlubuntu
[20:56] <bioterror> instead of startx
[20:56] <adsworth> I know, haven't found anything that piqued my interest yet.
[21:10] <adsworth> back again.
[21:11] <adsworth> reconfigure didn't help. and the Xorg.log doesn't show anything obvious for me. I pasted Xorg.log here http://dpaste.org/B2v2v/
[21:12] <adsworth> lxdm.log shows a CIRITICAL error but no info. paste is here http://dpaste.org/8pjpe/.
[21:13] <coolmag> Hi does anyone know how to get that Ubuntu Software Manager thingy for Lubuntu?
[21:14] <coolmag> And did the Lubuntu site dissapear?
[21:14] <bioterror> adsworth, could be worth to use nvidia's closed source drivers
[21:14] <adsworth> I just find it strange that a service start lxdm works fine.
[21:14] <adsworth> and gdm or xdm work fine aswell.
[21:15] <xsaidx> coolmag: add the lubuntu ppa  update the repo's  then sud o apt-get install lubuntu-software-center
[21:16] <coolmag> um xsaidx : I'm completely new to this linux stuff umm how do you add the ppa and update the repo's?
[21:16] <xsaidx> hang on
[21:22] <xsaidx> coolmag: bookmark this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755
[21:22] <coolmag> :o xsaidx  THANKS
[21:22] <xsaidx> coolmag: np
[22:04] <cjohnston> How do I add a a startup application to lubuntu
[22:05] <bioterror> cjohnston, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#How_I_can_autostart_a_program_when_logging_in_to_Desktop
[22:07] <cjohnston> bioterror: so I assume if I'm wanting synergy to start automatically, I need a synergy.desktop?
[22:08] <cjohnston> which i dont see
[22:10] <coolmag> How do you run a program as root?
[22:10] <holstein> coolmag: what are you trying to run?
[22:11] <coolmag> :o ohai holstein um PPS
[22:12] <holstein> when running a program as root, you really need to ask, 'why?'
[22:13] <coolmag> i see
[22:14] <holstein> coolmag: you open a terminal and run sudo
[22:14] <holstein> sudo apt-get update
[22:14] <holstein> ^^ for example
[22:14] <holstein> that runs apt-get as root and updates the package list
[22:16] <coolmag> this magical linux stuff doesn't need antivirus right
[22:18] <holstein> coolmag: linux doesnt
[22:18] <holstein> you might
[22:18] <holstein> if you run random things as root, you might want it ;)
[22:22] <phillw> coolmag: it is an article I wrote a while back, but it does still applly http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=17
[22:23] <holstein> i have a pretty strict 'do what makes you feel safe' policy for security
[22:25] <coolmag> Hm is defragmenting necessary?
[22:26] <phillw> coolmag: no, the ext4 system is pretty much self defragging
[22:28] <phillw> it is not 100%, but there is no need to shut your system down, just ensure you keep all disks below 90% full.
[22:29] <coolmag> ? so I don't ever need to defrag?
[22:30] <holstein> coolmag: correct
[22:31] <holstein> you leave enough free disk space, and you never need to defrag
[22:31] <coolmag> Great and wut happened to the Lubuntu site?
[22:32] <holstein> coolmag: i think there is an hosting issue being resolved
[22:32] <phillw> coolmag: soz, I'm still giggling .. some one actually tried to defrag the hard drive they were working on.
[22:36] <phillw> coolmag: they are re-desining it
[23:20] <coolmag> Hey could I ask why a random program isn't working?
[23:20] <coolmag> It seems like it was designed for Ubuntu 8.10+
[23:21] <wxl> youre setting up a script to pick a program at random to run? ;)
[23:21] <wxl> you know, software's not all that good with real randomness
[23:22] <wxl> ok, i'll shut up now
[23:22] <wxl> what program coolmag
[23:22] <coolmag> it's this internet streaming thing at www.pps.tv
[23:22] <coolmag> it's called PPStream or something
[23:22] <wxl> "thing"
[23:22] <coolmag> I always have to run it twice before it loads, and then after it does it still doesn't function properly.
[23:23] <wxl> how did you install?
[23:24] <wxl> ther's no oneiric version available
[23:24] <wxl> anychance you're on 11.04?
[23:25] <wxl> if so:
[23:25] <wxl> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:cnav/ppa
[23:25] <wxl> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ppstream
[23:25] <coolmag> :o does that work?
[23:25] <wxl> *IF* you're on natty/11.04
[23:25] <coolmag> um oh no i'm on 11.10
[23:26] <coolmag> i think.
[23:26] <wxl> there's no oneiric version
[23:26] <coolmag> Oh there's not? :|
[23:26] <wxl> lsb_release
[23:26] <wxl> https://launchpad.net/~cnav/+archive/ppa
[23:26] <coolmag> so i can't run it
[23:26] <wxl> read and weep
[23:28] <wxl> hah! it may be gone for good too http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Linux/31266733.html
[23:29] <wxl> wish i could read chinese i might be of more help
[23:29] <wxl> there's this
[23:29] <wxl> http://140.111.74.38/blog/post/2/643
[23:29] <coolmag> Do you know anything about this : http://code.google.com/p/totem-pps/
[23:30] <coolmag> The installation guide is crazy and I don't understand it T_T
[23:31] <wxl> don't know a darn thing about ppstream
[23:31] <wxl> looks like it may get around the need for the proprietary (?) client
[23:31] <wxl> but it requires you to build from source which most people aren't happy with
[23:33] <coolmag> yeah exactly it looks like it gets around the required usage of the client
[23:33] <coolmag> but how do i install it
[23:33] <coolmag> and wut is totem
[23:34] <wxl> http://code.google.com/p/totem-pps/
[23:34] <wxl> oops
[23:34] <wxl> http://projects.gnome.org/totem/
[23:35] <wxl> you follow the instructions
[23:37] <coolmag> oh and then i can install the other thing?
[23:37] <coolmag> the PPS thing or do I need to compile somehow @_@
[23:37] <coolmag> oh also the lubuntu screenscaver things says something about not having the screensaver packages installed how do I do that @_@ is it in the synaptic thing
[23:38] <wxl> yep yep yep
[23:38] <wxl> you need totem
[23:38] <wxl> and you need to compile totem-pps et all
[23:38] <wxl> not for the squeamish
[23:38] <wxl> and the screensaver packages are in synaptic
[23:38] <wxl> look for xscreensaver and you'll find them
[23:39] <coolmag> um is there an easy way to compile T_T
[23:39] <coolmag> i'm very squeamish
[23:39] <wxl> no
[23:39] <coolmag> very new to this linux thing
[23:39] <wxl> then i would in general suggest against it unless you feel adventurous
[23:39] <coolmag> aw :|
[23:40] <coolmag> so it's not as simple as following the steps in the wiki
[23:40] <wxl> well it is
[23:41] <wxl> give it a shot
[23:41] <wxl> it's unlikely you're going to break anything
[23:41] <coolmag> i think i already have.
[23:42] <wxl> from what i can tell that program is broken, period
[23:44] <coolmag> oh if i installed 9.04 would it work?
[23:44] <KM0201> Lubuntu doesn't have a version 9.04
[23:44] <wxl> 11.04 would work with those directions above
[23:44] <KM0201> not to mention 9.04 is EOL.
[23:44] <wxl> SHOULD Wwork
[23:44] <wxl> there's no guarantee of no bugs
[23:45] <wxl> technically the program is compltely and totally unsupported by canonical
[23:46] <phillw> coolmag: Lubuntu 9.04 never got a release, please do not use it. It was a "proof of concept", nothing more.
[23:47] <phillw> same with 9.10
[23:47] <phillw> 10.04 was really our 1st 'real' release.
[23:49] <coolmag2> Uh when I did the Totem thing I got this : Package totem-gstreamer is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[23:49] <coolmag2> (when I did sudo apt-get install totem-gstreamer)
[23:49] <coolmag2> do I include the $ sign
[23:50] <phillw> coolmag no you do not, but what version are you using>?
[23:50] <coolmag2> Um of Lubuntu?
[23:50] <coolmag2> I think 11.10
[23:50] <wxl> give us the output of "lsb_release" coolmag2
[23:50] <wxl> (no quotes)
[23:51] <coolmag2> No LSB modules are available.
[23:51] <wxl> ooops
[23:51] <wxl> "lsb_release -a"
[23:51] <wxl> sorry
[23:52] <coolmag2> uh should i paste that somewhere will i get kicked for flooding
[23:52] <KM0201> pastebin.com
[23:52] <coolmag2> No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 11.10 Release:	11.10 Codename:	oneiric
[23:52] <coolmag2> nevemrind
[23:52] <coolmag2> never*
[23:53] <wxl> so yep, 11.10
[23:53] <KM0201> youc an also install pastebinit , and paste straight from the terminal.
[23:53]  * KM0201 really likes pastebinit
[23:53] <coolmag2> ok wut do I do
[23:54] <KM0201> what do you do for what?
[23:54] <coolmag2> installing totem
[23:54] <coolmag2> I'm erroring
[23:54] <KM0201> open synaptic
[23:54] <coolmag2> Package totem-gstreamer is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source However the following packages replace it:   totem-plugins-extra
[23:54] <KM0201> ok
[23:54] <KM0201> open synaptic
[23:55] <coolmag2> ok
[23:55] <KM0201> in synaptic
[23:55] <KM0201> click settings/repositories
[23:55] <KM0201> that'll open upa  window called "software sources"
[23:55] <wxl> there is no oneiric toem-gstreamer
[23:55] <KM0201> there isn't?
[23:55] <wxl> nope
[23:55] <wxl> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=totem-gstreamer
[23:56] <wxl> ended with natty
[23:56] <KM0201> hmm
[23:56] <wxl> i'm confused
[23:56] <wxl> totem is based on gstreamer
[23:56] <wxl> it's a dependency
[23:56] <KM0201> yeah, that makes no sense
[23:57] <KM0201> !info gstreamer0
[23:57] <wxl> yeah coolmag2 i'd just install totem
[23:57] <KM0201> hmm, yes it does.
[23:57] <wxl> !info gstreamer
[23:57] <wxl> hah
[23:58] <wxl> !info libgstreamer
[23:58] <coolmag2> @_@
[23:58] <KM0201> wxl: do you have gstreamer0.10-pitfdll   in 11.10?  it looks like it might be a replacement
[23:58] <coolmag2> it says to do that command on the totem site thing
[23:58] <coolmag2> Where can I get it? --> $ sudo apt-get install totem-gstreamer
[23:58] <KM0201> coolmag: hold on a second
[23:58] <wxl> i seem to
[23:59] <wxl> coolmag2: sudo apt-get install totem
[23:59] <KM0201> wxl: i could be wrong, but reading the description, i think thats a replacement
[23:59] <wxl> harumph
[23:59] <wxl> !info gstreamer0.10-pitfdll
[23:59] <KM0201> bizzang