[00:27] AlanBell: It's good, but I have some news. [08:01] good morning [08:19] morning dholbach [08:20] hi AlanBell [08:29] do we know how the core design team like to collaborate? [08:45] AlanBell: google docs [08:48] well, i guess being in one place rather often and using white-boards could also be mentioned [09:37] sabdfl reeled off a list of irc nicks in the last CC meeting, but I don't think there has been any comment from any of them [09:37] just wondering if they would prefer mailing lists to IRC or something else? [09:37] google hangouts perhaps? [09:38] " it feels weird to me that the ubuntu design team doesn't include johnlea, mika, oren, calum, christian, mpt..." [09:39] mpt is here, the rest don't appear to be on freenode [09:41] sladen is here as well. [09:54] AlanBell: FWIW, I can only see mika on the Canonical internal IRC [09:55] AlanBell: I will poke people a little later [09:57] great [10:10] AlanBell, "oren" is oreneeshy, "calum" is ckpringle [10:11] AlanBell, what's the "CC"? [10:11] the community council [10:12] http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/11/17/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t17:04 [10:15] hi oreneeshy & ckpringle o/ [10:15] hi AlanBell [10:15] hi AlanBell [10:24] Oh hello. :) [11:25] Soo, is there already an official statement on this weeks meeting date and time? === om26er__ is now known as om26er === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle [15:32] mainerror: Yes, there should be in the title etc. === Ronnie1 is now known as Ronnie [20:21] Hi everyone! I came here following doctormon's invitation in Ubuntu Artwork mailing list. [20:24] hi shnatsel [20:25] hi thorwil [20:25] glad to meet you! [20:25] oh btw, Ubuntu Studio needs some love [20:25] Boot screen and login screen background, to be exact [20:26] the mockups, to be even more exact [20:26] I can code the plymouth myself, I already have some experience in that, e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75_qyL7U2ME [20:26] Hello shnatsel. [20:27] hello mainerror [20:27] (that thing on youtube is very old though; I've learned a lot since then) [20:34] thorwil: UbuntuStudio devs humbly hope that you'll come up with something for their boot and login screens [20:35] shnatsel: oh, will not happen. [20:36] that's a pity [20:37] they seem to be in the poorest state of all official derivatives :( [20:37] I have to help them from time to time apart from my usual work for elementary project [20:39] shnatsel: because i have several things on my list that are more pressing and/or interesting. tbh i don't think this derivative should exist. not as more than a collection of (meta-) packages [20:40] thorwil: they do an amazing job shipping an OOTB environment for professional sound processing [20:40] thorwil: regular Ubuntu is hardly suitable for that [20:40] shnatsel: Do you have a good definition of what UBS needs? [20:41] doctormon: I think I do. You can ask ScottL in #ubuntustudio-devel for details right now if you wish. [20:41] shnatsel: You should make sure you communicate with Scott how important it is to write down everythign you need in a blueprint or similar [20:42] doctormon: last time I checked they needed a boot screen mockup and a background image for login screen [20:42] Think about a design breif. [20:42] doctormon: yeah, I've already converted them to blueprints [20:42] :) [20:42] It's no good asking designers to boldly seek out the very busy ScottL for information in his head ;-) [20:44] doctormon: last time I checked they needed a boot screen mockup and a background for LightDM greeter. But yeah, good point. [20:44] doctormon: thanks! [20:48] shnatsel: So 1 wallpaper and 1 plymouth? Do you have a link to the briefs for each of those? [20:51] doctormon: for Plymouth - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/Plymouth [20:51] doctormon: and examples at http://brej.org/blog/?p=238 [20:53] doctormon: and LightDM is expected to look similar to GDM, but nobody really knows that yet :( [20:54] doctormon: like this: http://iloveubuntu.net/pictures_me/lightDM%200.9.2%20Oneiric.png [21:00] thorwil: This is why we need a website to host designs and projects. :-) [21:01] doctormon: did i miss something? i'm debugging some realtime audio software. how matching, since u-studio is the topic :} [21:02] thorwil: Indeed. Although I think the branding for ubuntu studio is more important that you expressed above. [21:13] MediaGoblin, anyone> [21:13] ? [21:15] shnatsel: guess who did a logo and mentioned it here? ;) [21:15] thorwil: yeah, saw that on your blog :) [21:15] thorwil: nice one btw [21:16] ty [21:16] gotta run, good night! [21:21] AlanBell: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/28/ubuntu_tv/ [21:21] O.M.G. [21:21] /o\ [21:21] hehe [21:22] The internet is serious business. :D [21:41] ScottL says that he would write the exact requirements this weekend [21:46] doctormon: What is the status of the design team website? Do you want to wait with it until after the meeting? [21:47] mainerror: I want to wait until the meeting, consensus needs to be reached. [21:47] I see. [21:48] shnatsel: That sounds great, make sure he'll be specifying tone, logos and a list of don'ts. [21:48] I will propose the use of Trello for the design team at the meeting. I feel this could really help. [21:49] mainerror: Trello? [21:49] https://trello.com/board/general/4ec98e1965baaac84a1359e9 [21:51] It is like a todo list but a lot better. [21:53] doctormon: If you give me your email address I can invite you to the design team on Trello and you can play around with it. [21:54] mainerror: Everyon should know my email: doctormo@ubuntu.com [21:55] Sent. :) [21:56] One day I'll get such a fancy forward email address as well. :) [21:57] the ubuntu-tv mailing list is going wild [23:23] AlanBell: lol, WHAT DID YOU DO! ;-) [23:28] it is all a bit mad [23:28] however, there are lots of great ideas floating about and people are doing designs and storyboards [23:33] AlanBell: That's great, using Pencil or some other method? [23:34] at least three are trying pencil, I think some others are doing other things [23:36] mainerror: Trying to use Trello, it's _really_ slow. Far too slow to actually use any of the functionality. [23:37] AlanBell: As you run through the ideas and methods, can you report back on your perception on whether we need a formal website or not? [23:37] will do [23:38] I can see a need for a few bits and bobs