[01:11] <Sarvatt> darn rrva is gone, was going to suggest lowering the 'Synaptics Noise Cancellation' property depending on how "different" it feels
[01:13] <Sarvatt> oh 1.4->edgers, thats not the problem then
[12:21] <Milos_SD> tseliot, I think I know what is the problem with fglrx ... Even if I select dgpu with aticonfig, when I try to start Xserver, it PowerXpress is starting igpu :)
[13:01] <tseliot> Milos_SD: but does X segfault in your case?
[13:04] <Milos_SD> tseliot, yes... same errors as last time
[13:05] <Milos_SD> I can change from integrated to discreat graphics with aticonfig tool, but when I start X, it alweys wants to start integrated (even if I selected discreat)
[13:07] <Milos_SD> and maybe the real problem is this error: (EE) Screen 1 deleted because of no matching config section.
[13:12] <tseliot> Milos_SD: I'm not really sure about that. A screen section shouldn't be required at all
[13:20] <Milos_SD> first it loads intel module, then after that error it unloads it, and then powerXpress is selecting intel graphics, and xserver segfault at the end ...
[16:37] <Sarvatt> bryceh: is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/604994 still a problem?
[16:37] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 604994 in linux (Ubuntu) "Automatically unblank after hibernate (affects: 1) (heat: 2)" [Undecided,Triaged]
[18:34] <bryceh> Sarvatt, yep looks like it works
[19:20] <bjsnider> Sarvatt, are there power issues with snb hardware?
[19:21] <Sarvatt> bjsnider: more details....?
[19:21] <bjsnider> it's bugabundo's laptop. dying after less than 3 hours
[19:22] <Sarvatt> dying how?
[19:22] <bjsnider> brand new
[19:22] <Sarvatt> like battery running out?
[19:22] <bjsnider> power suckage
[19:22] <bjsnider> yes
[19:22] <FernandoMiguel> houdy
[19:22] <Sarvatt> what laptop? i'm guessing a hybrid
[19:22] <FernandoMiguel> Sarvatt: hi
[19:22] <FernandoMiguel> dell vostro v131
[19:22] <FernandoMiguel> intel hd3000 ONLYT
[19:22] <Sarvatt> FernandoMiguel: boot with i915.i915_enable_rc6=1, big power savings :)
[19:22] <bjsnider> it's not hybrid, only snb
[19:22] <FernandoMiguel> adding that to kernel and rebooting
[19:23] <bjsnider> i suggested it could be snb, and i guess i might be right
[19:23] <FernandoMiguel> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet i915.i915_enable_rc6=1"
[19:23] <bjsnider> how long _should_ the battery last? shows how much i know about laptops
[19:23] <Sarvatt> pcie_aspm=force too
[19:24] <Sarvatt> depends on the system!
[19:24] <bjsnider> yeah but he's using the 3.2 kernel already
[19:24] <Sarvatt> and how big a battery you got..
[19:24] <FernandoMiguel> I grepped COS for 915 , nothing
[19:24] <FernandoMiguel> Sarvatt: 6 cells.
[19:24] <FernandoMiguel> lasts 9h on windows 7 64bits
[19:24] <bjsnider> i wonder what graphics driver they use then
[19:24] <FernandoMiguel> <3 h in ubuntu
[19:24] <FernandoMiguel> 4h in chromiumos
[19:24] <FernandoMiguel> bjsnider: boot a vm and check
[19:25] <FernandoMiguel> it's dead quick
[19:25] <FernandoMiguel> they have all kind of images
[19:25] <FernandoMiguel> and it boots in 5 secs
[19:25] <bjsnider> i meant in your case
[19:25] <FernandoMiguel> humm
[19:25] <FernandoMiguel> how can I see?
[19:25] <bjsnider> no idea
[19:25] <bjsnider> without a termimal
[19:25] <bjsnider> how did you find out what kernel you were using?
[19:25] <FernandoMiguel> I have one
[19:26] <bjsnider> well, lsmod
[19:26] <FernandoMiguel> Host F1
[19:28] <Sarvatt> FernandoMiguel: seriously though, try GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash pcie_aspm=force i915.i915_enable_rc6=1" and sudo update-grub, should make a big difference on that thing
[19:28] <FernandoMiguel> bjsnider: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/112892/Screenshot%20at%202011-11-28%2019%3A27%3A59.png
[19:29] <FernandoMiguel> I always ALWAYS forget update-grub2
[19:29] <FernandoMiguel> rebootng
[19:29] <FernandoMiguel> brb
[19:30] <Sarvatt> it's probably stuck at 800mhz gpu frequency 100% of the time and enabling rc6 will fix it if its anything like the vostro 3750 i've got here, looks exactly the same except that one uses a ULV celeron cpu
[19:33] <FernandoMiguel> ok
[19:33] <FernandoMiguel> better
[19:33] <FernandoMiguel> MUCH better
[19:33] <FernandoMiguel> 4:30
[19:33] <bjsnider> Sarvatt, is there any portable computer that's been made recently that you don't have in front of you?
[19:33] <FernandoMiguel> and I'm at 80% bat
[19:33] <Sarvatt> it's probably stuck at 800mhz gpu frequency 100% of the time and enabling rc6 will fix it if its anything like the vostro 3750 i've got here, looks exactly the same except that one uses a ULV celeron cpu
[19:33] <FernandoMiguel> but boot was way slower, and login blew on me
[19:34] <Sarvatt> FernandoMiguel: said that after you disappeared, sorry
[19:34] <Sarvatt> can watch -n 1 'sudo grep CAGF /sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/i915_cur_delayinfo' to watch the gpu clock speeds change
[19:34] <FernandoMiguel> Sarvatt: I got i7z 
[19:34] <Sarvatt> pretty useless for you 
[19:34] <FernandoMiguel> and powertop
[19:34] <Sarvatt> that celeron doesnt have turbo boost
[19:34] <Sarvatt> was talking about gpu clock speeds
[19:35] <FernandoMiguel> this is an i5 2nd gen
[19:35] <FernandoMiguel> ahhh gpu
[19:35] <FernandoMiguel> soorrrryyyyy
[19:35] <Sarvatt> oh sorry, i looked up vostro v131 and it was only offered in celeron
[19:35] <FernandoMiguel> nope
[19:36] <FernandoMiguel> CAGF: 650MHz
[19:38] <Sarvatt> x86_energy_perf_policy -v 'powersave'
[19:38] <Sarvatt> thats another little trick if it works
[19:38] <FernandoMiguel> In grup?
[19:38] <Sarvatt> nope in a terminal
[19:38] <FernandoMiguel> wait... that's a scalator
[19:38] <FernandoMiguel> I rather have it ondemand
[19:38] <FernandoMiguel> would love to limit it to 2.3GHz and turn off turbo mode
[19:39] <Sarvatt> oh nah this is a sandybridge specific tweak to adjust turbo boost policy
[19:39] <Sarvatt> powersave makes it less likely to jump to higher clock speeds
[19:39] <FernandoMiguel> cool
[19:39] <FernandoMiguel> apt-get install linux-tools-common
[19:39] <FernandoMiguel> instaling
[19:40] <FernandoMiguel> # x86_energy_perf_policy -v 'powersave'
[19:40] <FernandoMiguel> x86_energy_perf_policy_3.2.0-2 not found
[19:40] <FernandoMiguel> You may need to install linux-tools-3.2.0-2
[19:40] <FernandoMiguel> catche 22
[19:40] <Sarvatt> FernandoMiguel: on oneiric using precise kernel?
[19:40] <Sarvatt> just install linux-tools-3.0.0-13
[19:40] <Sarvatt> and sudo x86_energy_perf_policy_3.0.0-13 -v 'powersave'
[19:40] <Sarvatt> instead
[19:41] <FernandoMiguel> Linux Bostro 3.2.0-2-generic #4-Ubuntu SMP Fri Nov 25 10:47:30 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[19:41] <FernandoMiguel> todays update
[19:41] <FernandoMiguel> # sudo x86_energy_perf_policy -v 'powersave'
[19:41] <FernandoMiguel> x86_energy_perf_policy_3.2.0-2 not found
[19:41] <FernandoMiguel> You may need to install linux-tools-3.2.0-2
[19:41] <FernandoMiguel> I'm on root......
[19:41] <FernandoMiguel> # x86_energy_perf_policy_3.0.0-13 -v 'powersave'
[19:41] <FernandoMiguel> No command 'x86_energy_perf_policy_3.0.0-13' found, did you mean:
[19:41] <FernandoMiguel>  Command 'x86_energy_perf_policy_3.0.0-11' from package 'linux-tools-3.0.0-11' (main)
[19:41] <FernandoMiguel> x86_energy_perf_policy_3.0.0-13: command not found
[19:41] <Sarvatt> sudo apt-get install linux-tools-3.2.0-2
[19:42] <Sarvatt> whats that say
[19:42] <Sarvatt> anyway this isnt a big deal, thats a very minor tweak
[19:42] <FernandoMiguel> The following extra packages will be installed:
[19:42] <FernandoMiguel>   libdw1
[19:42] <FernandoMiguel> ~# x86_energy_perf_policy -v 'powersave'
[19:42] <FernandoMiguel> CPUID.06H.ECX: 0x9
[19:42] <FernandoMiguel> cpu0  msr0x1b0 0x0000000000000006 -> 0x000000000000000f
[19:43] <FernandoMiguel> Sarvatt: are this permanent or on boot?
[19:43] <Sarvatt> woohoo it worked, you were at performance mode
[19:43] <Sarvatt> per boot
[19:43] <FernandoMiguel> humm
[19:43] <FernandoMiguel> 4h24 now
[19:44] <FernandoMiguel> Battery 0: Discharging, 80%, 03:42:53 remaining
[19:44] <FernandoMiguel> LOL indicators and acpi don't agree
[19:45] <Sarvatt> it takes 3-4 minutes before powertop numbers are reliable when it has to estimate
[19:46] <FernandoMiguel> The battery reports a discharge rate of 15.7 W
[19:46] <FernandoMiguel>               Usage     Device name
[19:46] <FernandoMiguel>              37,1%        CPU use
[19:46] <FernandoMiguel>              23,9%        Display backlight
[19:46] <Sarvatt> FernandoMiguel: turn screen brightness down? :P
[19:46] <FernandoMiguel> it's at 20%
[19:46] <FernandoMiguel> the darn thing always boots at 100%
[19:47] <FernandoMiguel> no way to change it :(
[19:48] <FernandoMiguel> Sarvatt: anymore tweeks?
[19:48] <Sarvatt> FernandoMiguel: ok so they quote 9.5 hours for that thing, but thats only in the configuration with the 17w 1.1ghz celeron CPU
[19:48] <FernandoMiguel> would love to see this go up above 8h
[19:48] <FernandoMiguel> Sarvatt: nope... I can do more than 8h on windows
[19:49] <FernandoMiguel> never left I die, but I'm sure it goes above 9h easily
[19:49] <bjsnider> windows 7 should be relatively power-hungry
[19:49] <FernandoMiguel> with wifi off
[19:49] <Sarvatt> i dont understand how, thats a small battery
[19:49] <Sarvatt> 5 hours really sounds right for that thing
[19:49] <FernandoMiguel> it does :)
[19:49] <FernandoMiguel> I did 8h on it
[19:50] <Sarvatt> whats the last full capacity in cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info ?
[19:50] <FernandoMiguel> ~$ cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info | pastebinit 
[19:50] <FernandoMiguel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/752887/
[19:51] <FernandoMiguel> last full capacity:      5695 mAh
[19:51] <Sarvatt> i get 8 hours on an e6420 with a 9 cell
[19:51] <bjsnider> are these snb tweaks going to be in precise for everyone?
[19:51] <Sarvatt> yea
[19:52] <bjsnider> maybe the windows snb driver is more efficient at this point than the linux driver
[19:52] <Sarvatt> rc6 will be on but only if VTd isn't enabled at the same time, which is a problem because it will be on lots of new machines soon
[19:52] <FernandoMiguel> what's VTd?
[19:53] <FernandoMiguel> The battery reports a discharge rate of 13.7 W
[19:53] <FernandoMiguel>               Usage     Device name
[19:53] <FernandoMiguel>              12,9%        CPU use
[19:53] <FernandoMiguel>             100,0%        Audio codec hwC0D0: Conexant (pulseaudio )
[19:53] <FernandoMiguel>              23,9%        Display backlight
[19:53] <FernandoMiguel> no idea why audio spends soooooo much
[19:53] <FernandoMiguel>             Package |             Core    |            CPU 0       CPU 2
[19:53] <FernandoMiguel> Turbo Mode  18,5% 
[19:53] <FernandoMiguel> 800 Mhz    45,2%       40,6%
[19:53] <FernandoMiguel> Idle        29,6% 
[19:54] <bjsnider> wonder what would happen if you ripped out the audio driver for a session
[19:54] <FernandoMiguel> Sarvatt: can't I turn off turbomode while on bat?
[19:56] <Sarvatt> FernandoMiguel: you pretty much did there
[19:56] <Sarvatt> oh
[19:56] <Sarvatt> doesnt look like it
[19:57] <Sarvatt> FernandoMiguel: i bet you could do something like this
[19:57] <FernandoMiguel> Sarvatt: do what?
[19:57] <FernandoMiguel> and what's VTd?
[19:57] <Sarvatt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/752897/
[19:57] <FernandoMiguel>  "Virtualization Technology for Directed I/O" (VT-d). ..
[19:58] <Sarvatt> virtualization crap that causes hangs with some of the intel features
[20:00] <FernandoMiguel> Sarvatt: got any ideas why this laptop isn't entering suspend?
[20:00] <FernandoMiguel> it wakes up after 10 secs
[20:02]  * FernandoMiguel stupid alt f4
[22:19] <ShawnRW> anyone know the way to get the brightness control keys to function with intel backlighting?