[06:21] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[06:22] <Kilos> nuvolari, is jy ok?
[06:25] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[06:25]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[06:29] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[06:30] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[06:30] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[06:30] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday 
[06:37] <Langjan> Hi kilos
[06:38] <Kilos> hi Langjan 
[06:38] <Langjan> Hoe gaan dit vanoggend?
[06:38] <Kilos> goed dankie en self
[06:38] <Langjan> Ook so dankie
[06:38] <Kilos> you didnt read your mail yet?
[06:39] <Kilos> het jy darem gewen met 11.04
[06:40] <Langjan> Ja dankie. What can you tell me about the pros and cons of Thunderbird and Evolution, especially re my mail and adress book transfer problems?
[06:40] <Kilos> i havent used thunderbird but others say it is easier to set up
[06:40] <Langjan> Unfortunately I have to go, will chat later.
[06:41] <Kilos> ok cheers
[06:41] <Kilos> go well
[06:41] <Langjan> You to thanks. 
[06:47] <superfly> morning Kilos
[07:07] <Vince-0> Kilos!
[07:07] <Kilos> yo Vince-0 
[07:08] <Vince-0> back online I see
[07:08] <Vince-0> *peon voice: work work
[07:08] <Kilos> yeah but not all day
[07:09] <Kilos> Vince-0, how old are you
[07:10] <Kilos> or how young?
[07:10] <Vince-0> ha! 26 this December
[07:10] <Kilos> ah then only 35 years of work to go
[07:10] <Kilos> hehe
[07:11] <Vince-0> yar tell me about it, the daily grind is getting to me
[07:11] <Kilos> the trick is to enjoy your work, then its much easier
[07:12] <Vince-0> ya! that's the idea but the joy is no more. Thinking about jumping ship and being a fisherman on a remote island somwheres
[07:12] <Kilos> ha ha ha
[07:12] <Kilos> you will be lost without an internet connection
[07:13] <Vince-0> probably, can get almost anywhere these days
[07:35] <nuvolari> o/ mornings 
[07:36] <nuvolari> lo oom Kilos 
[07:36] <nuvolari> ek is okei ja dankie :P was net 'n woeste paar dae
[07:36] <Kilos> ah
[07:55] <Kilos> bbl
[08:34] <kbmonkey> hello
[08:35] <inetpro> good morning kbmonkey and others
[08:35] <inetpro> Kerbero: your updates working now?
[08:35] <Kerbero> nope
[08:36] <inetpro> serious!?
[08:36] <Kerbero> indeed
[08:36] <inetpro> I can connect from the office
[08:37] <Kerbero> i'm forcing my system to use the tenet mirrors
[08:37] <Kerbero> by using ubuntu.mirror.ac.za as the address
[08:37] <Kerbero> i think if you use za.archive.ubuntu.com it might work now
[08:37] <inetpro> I use za.archive.ubuntu.com and it works
[08:37] <Kerbero> as they might have change the cname to point to another mirror
[08:38] <inetpro> ah
[08:38] <Kerbero> https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=18911
[08:38] <inetpro> Kerbero: yes I noticed the message from pjdelport
[08:39] <inetpro> but as you mentioned one needs a login to see that
[08:39] <Kerbero> that message was just a request to change the cname
[08:39] <Kerbero> to another mirror
[08:39] <Kerbero> so i guess that was done
[08:39] <inetpro> ok
[08:40] <inetpro> you have a login for that?
[08:40] <Kerbero> launchpad logi worked
[08:40] <Kerbero> just use that ubuntu sso
[08:43] <inetpro> ahh
[08:49] <inetpro> Kerbero: great, that should hopefully nudge them to fix things
[08:54] <inetpro> BTW, I have not had any feedback from the NOC at Tenet
[09:47] <Kerbero> ok sent a mail to rennews
[09:47] <Kerbero> hopefully a reply there
[10:30] <Kerbero> Hi JP
[10:30] <Kerbero> We are investigating the problem.   
[10:30] <Kerbero> Regards
[10:30] <Kerbero> --
[10:30] <Kerbero> Shukri Wiener
[10:30] <Kerbero> TENET
[10:30] <Kerbero> On 28 Nov 2011, at 11:57 AM, JP Meijers wrote:
[10:30] <Kerbero> > The mirror.ac.za server seems to be down since Friday or Saturday. What 
[10:30] <Kerbero> > is the current status of this server?
[10:30] <Kerbero> >
[10:30] <Kerbero> > Regards
[10:30] <Kerbero> > JP Meijers
[10:30] <Kerbero> > Stellenbosch University
[10:30] <Kerbero> > Linux User Group
[10:30] <Kerbero> >
[10:30] <Kerbero> > _______________________________________________
[10:30] <Kerbero> > REN-news mailing list
[10:30] <Kerbero> > REN-news@lists.tenet.ac.za
[10:30] <Kerbero> > http://lists.tenet.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/ren-news
[10:53] <nuvolari> Kerbero: please use pastebin for so many lines of text
[10:53] <Kerbero> ok
[10:54] <nuvolari> or at least paste the useful lines :P
[10:54] <Kerbero> yeah
[10:54] <Kerbero> i was just happy that we actually got a reply
[11:43] <drubin> Kerbero: Doesn't mean they will fix it
[11:48] <Kerbero> true
[14:46] <inetpro> Kerbero: I got feedback from TENET, "There was a general issue with the mirror server.  This has been resolved..." http://pastebin.com/s7zR4vN9
[14:47] <Kerbero> awesome
[14:50] <inetpro> can somebody check and verify whether za.archive.ubuntu.com is pointing back to TENET
[14:52] <inetpro> as far as I can see it's still pointing to the same as archive.ubuntu.com
[14:57] <Kilos> see you tonight
[14:57] <tumbleweed> inetpro: just poked #ubuntu-mirrors about that
[14:57] <inetpro> tumbleweed: thanks
[15:13] <tumbleweed> inetpro: done
[15:14] <inetpro> tumbleweed: ahh, great 
[15:14] <inetpro> now pointing to 155.232.191.229
[15:14] <inetpro> that was quick
[15:25] <bmg505> telcrap is evil
[15:25] <bmg505> was adsl-less from 16th to no fault of nature or myself, all a tellcrap techy the fooked up
[15:25] <bmg505> only in za land
[15:42] <inetpro> tumbleweed: can I download a .iso with all the latest updates?
[15:43] <tumbleweed> inetpro: only for LTSs
[15:43] <inetpro> hmm... 
[15:43]  * inetpro wants to download a fresh ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso 
[15:44] <inetpro> or rather I have one right here at the office and have just zsynced it
[15:44] <inetpro> but there are a lot of updates 
[15:45]  * inetpro needs to go slow with bandwidth at home
[15:47] <inetpro> hmmm... 
[15:47] <inetpro> perhaps I should just install it here on a VM and get all the updates like that
[15:49] <Kerbero> can't you make a startup disk on a flash drive with a persistence file
[15:50] <Kerbero> and update it while live booting
[15:50] <Kerbero> or will those updates not be used when you install from it then
[15:51] <Kerbero> what we normally do is create a mirror of the repo on an external hdd with apt-mirror
[15:51] <Kerbero> but it is about 30GB iirc
[15:53] <inetpro> Kerbero: that's to much for me 
[15:55] <Kerbero> yes that is a lot
[15:55] <Kerbero> but if one have a 100mbps LAN connection to a repo it's not :P
[15:56] <inetpro> what's this package called where you can take the .deb files offline?
[15:57] <inetpro> I think kilos was using it
[15:58] <Kerbero> i don't understand what you mean
[15:59] <inetpro> there is a package which you can install and use to sync all .deb files with a system that is not connected to the web
[16:00]  * inetpro forgot what is was called
[16:00] <Kerbero> almost sounds like apt-mirror
[16:00] <Kerbero> or deb-mirror
[16:01] <superfly> inetpro: aptoncd
[16:01] <inetpro> ahh... thats the one, thanks superfly
[16:32] <tumbleweed> it's also built-into synaptic
[16:32] <tumbleweed> and there's apt-offline
[16:51] <inetpro> tumbleweed: built-into synaptic? That is very interesting
[16:51] <inetpro> my updates are almost done
[16:52] <inetpro> will check it out
[16:57] <inetpro> tumbleweed: does that mean I don't have to install aptoncd at all?
[17:03] <inetpro> hmm... does oneiric even have synaptic?
[17:08]  * superfly doesn't know
[17:11] <inetpro> we'll see now
[17:11] <inetpro> busy rebooting the vm after updates
[17:16] <inetpro> hmm... if it there I don't know how to use it
[17:16]  * inetpro busy installing quassel-client before installing and running aptoncd
[17:17] <inetpro> Ubuntu Software Centre is nice but I still prefer aptitude
[17:18] <superfly> inetpro: yeah, same thing here
[17:18] <inetpro> superfly: so far I'm very impressed with the latest version of ubuntu
[17:19] <inetpro> really looks very polished
[17:20] <inetpro> eish, but I just hate working in a VM
[17:21]  * inetpro should probably get a hardware and memory upgrade 
[17:24] <superfly> inetpro: 4 gigs of RAM work wonders when you're dealing with VMs :-)
[17:41] <drubin> superfly: 4gigs..... you can't run vm's with 4gigs
[17:42] <superfly> drubin: as long as I'm not running more than 4 at a time, it's fine. I use them for testing, so I don't run them all the time
[17:43] <drubin> superfly: I suppose I normally have netbeans and eclipse open and firefox so that means I am already using like 3gigs of ram :)
[17:49] <superfly> drubin: uh, yeah, that would consume a lot of RAM
[17:50] <drubin> superfly: also windows vm (blush)
[17:51] <drubin> you can't give those things less thne 2gigs of ram
[17:56] <superfly> drubin: well, I have an XP vm, though I hardly ever use it, and that doesn't use much RAM
[18:39] <Kilos> evening guys
[18:39] <Kilos> and a gal
[18:41] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[18:41]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[18:41] <Kilos> Maaz, hurry
[18:41] <Maaz> Hey! Kilos Patience is a virtue, 
[18:45] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[18:45] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[18:45] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[18:46] <Kilos> inetpro, verdict?
[19:11] <Kilos> oh my. he really struggling with unity
[19:11] <Kilos> zeref_, whats with the tail
[19:24] <Kilos> hiya Langjan 
[19:25] <Langjan> Howzit Kilos?
[19:25] <Kilos> good ty and there?
[19:27] <Langjan> Fine thanks, all praise to the Lord! Which worldly problems are you solving tonight? 
[19:27] <Kilos> lol boredom
[19:28] <Kilos> have you got everything working
[19:28] <Langjan> Wow! How do you manage to get there? Wish I had time for boredom...lol
[19:28] <Kilos> ha ha
[19:30] <Langjan> I have reverted to Thunderbird but still have to get to my old e-mails to find the guy who had ideas about transferring e-mails...
[19:31] <Kilos> have you found them then
[19:33] <superfly> hey Langjan
[19:34] <Langjan> Battling to find the right registry files...
[19:34] <Langjan> Do you know if there are guidelines to speed up Libre Office writer? 
[19:36] <Langjan> Found as site with some hints, will try it now
[19:37] <superfly> Langjan: did I tell you about OpenLP?
[19:37] <Kilos> google how to speed up libreoffice writer
[19:37] <Kilos> grrr
[19:37] <Kilos> Maaz, google how to speed up libreoffice writer
[19:37] <Maaz> Kilos: "LibreOffice - ArchWiki" https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LibreOffice :: "10 essential LibreOffice Writer tricks | TechRepublic" http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/10things/10-essential-libreoffice-writer-tricks/2852 :: "Five power tips for LibreOffice users | TechRepublic" http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/five-apps/five-power-tips-for-libreoffice-users/593 :: "Speeding up LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org" http://www.pclinuxos.com/fo
[19:39] <inetpro> hmm...
[19:40] <inetpro> Kilos: to many other interruptions in life
[19:40] <Kilos> eish
[19:41]  * inetpro is about to try it out again... hang on
[19:41] <Kilos> voorspoed
[19:42] <Langjan> Wow! Speedy Gonzales, thanks!
[19:43] <Langjan> Just one little thing, enable quickstarter...
[19:43] <Kilos> lol whats that
[19:45] <Langjan> Libre Office, tools, options, memory, enable systray quickstarter
[19:47] <Kilos> hopefully someone else here uses libreoffice and knows
[19:47] <Kilos> or we can ask maaz
[19:47] <Kilos> Maaz, google how to enable libre office quickstarter
[19:47] <Maaz> Kilos: "11.04 - How do I enable the libreoffice quickstarter in unity? - Ask ..." http://askubuntu.com/questions/34796/how-do-i-enable-the-libreoffice-quickstarter-in-unity :: "Common/Memory - LibreOffice Help" http://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Memory :: "Installation of LibreOffice 3.3 on Linux » LibreOffice" http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/installation/linux/ :: "libreoffice -quickstart by default in LibreOffice ..." http://en.libre
[19:48] <Kilos> top one Langjan 
[19:48] <Langjan> Kilos I keep on getting into another chat when I connect xchat on my new system, perhaps 'cause I took the wrong turn in the beginning, how do I fix that?
[19:48] <Kilos> when you open it do you first get a small window that tells you connect\
[19:49] <Kilos> in  that small window you set up what channel you want to go to
[19:49] <Langjan> Yes then it takes me to a room full of strangers... scary lol
[19:49] <Kilos> no man
[19:50] <Langjan> let me try again
[19:50] <Kilos> open again now but dont say connect
[19:50] <Kilos> oh my
[19:50] <tumbleweed> inetpro: aptitude is unusable with multi-arch
[19:50] <tumbleweed> inetpro: hopefully that'll be sorted out soon...
[19:50] <tumbleweed> but for now, apt-get...
[19:55] <Kilos> wait now Langjan 
[19:55] <Kilos> stop right here
[19:58] <Kilos> you have to set it up in that small window first before you say connect
[19:59] <Kilos> scroll through networks till you get to freenode
[19:59] <Kilos> tick freenode
[19:59] <Kilos> then tick edit on the right
[20:00] <Langjan> It connects automatically, before I have a say!
[20:00] <Kilos> in favourite channels type in #ubuntu-za
[20:00] <inetpro> Looking good so far 
[20:00] <Kilos> eish you ticked the connect automatically block hey
[20:02] <Kilos> lol
[20:02] <inetpro> Installer not crashed.. Ek busy restarting after install.... And oops 
[20:02] <inetpro> Forgot to do nomodeset 
[20:02] <Kilos> ha ha
[20:03] <Langjan> Kilos, it connects me before I can select anything, but to the wrong channel...
[20:03] <Kilos> how come it doesnt install without that nomodeset
[20:03] <Kilos> yes jan
[20:03] <Kilos> you need to get in that small window
[20:04] <Kilos> wait lets see how we find it
[20:04] <Kilos> while you are on this channel now what happens if you try open xchat again
[20:04] <Kilos> eish
[20:06] <inetpro> Doing the aptoncd thing before connecting online 
[20:10] <inetpro> Hmm. Why can't do that? 
[20:11] <Kilos> because its not same release
[20:12] <inetpro> Running apt-get update and then gonna install aptoncd 
[20:12] <Kilos> oh not installed yet
[20:12] <Kilos> hehe
[20:12] <inetpro> Kilos: is the same release 
[20:13] <inetpro> Yikes 
[20:13] <Kilos> ah i thought you brought it from maverick
[20:13] <Kilos> sorry
[20:13] <Kilos> what Yikes
[20:13] <inetpro> To many sources enabled by default 
[20:14] <Kilos> repos?
[20:14] <inetpro> Kilos no
[20:14] <Kilos> ah
[20:15] <inetpro> I installed a vm with Oneiric at the office this afternoon / evening 
[20:16] <Kilos> ah
[20:20] <Kilos> Langjan, whats happening
[20:20] <Kilos> eish
[20:22] <Kilos> im sure he has ticked the skip network list on startup
[20:22] <Kilos> dunno how to get back to the connect window now
[20:22] <Kilos> unless maybe purging xchat will help
[20:25] <Langjan> Kilos, tell you what, it's a mess trying to connect to this thing now!
[20:26] <inetpro> Eish! 
[20:26] <Kilos> Langjan, stop now
[20:26] <Kilos> lets try
[20:26] <Langjan> ok, what do I have to do?
[20:26] <Kilos> you mustnt tick the skip network list on startup
[20:26] <inetpro> They changed the easy to use aptoncd 
[20:26] <Kilos> thats why it is going right online
[20:27] <Langjan> I don't even know where that is...
[20:27] <Kilos> when you tick xchat to open it
[20:27] <inetpro> How to add the cd repo? 
[20:27] <Kilos> you get a small window that lets you choose your channels
[20:28] <Langjan> No, when I click to open, it opens up by itself into an unknown environment 
[20:28] <Kilos> thats where you must choose freenode and type in #ubuntu-za in favourite channels
[20:29] <Langjan> theres no such option
[20:29] <Kilos> ok so i hope getting rid of xchat and installing it agin might help
[20:29] <Langjan> I did, same again
[20:30] <Kilos> on your maverick xchat as well??
[20:30] <Langjan> What's Maverick - 10.10? No
[20:30] <Langjan> Havent been there
[20:30] <Kilos> ya 10.10
[20:31] <Kilos> how did we used to chat
[20:31] <Langjan> No should be fine there
[20:31] <Kilos> you must have seen the small window on startup
[20:31] <Kilos> on 10.10
[20:32] <Kilos> anyway lets try purging it
[20:32] <Langjan> Yes but it does not work here
[20:32] <Kilos> you must write down these commands
[20:32] <Kilos> sudo aptitude purge xchat
[20:32] <Kilos> that should clean everything out
[20:33] <Langjan> ok
[20:33] <Kilos> then sudo aptitude install xchat
[20:33] <Langjan> ok is that all?
[20:34] <Kilos> then when you try open it it should show the small window where you choose what channel you want and where you enter your nickname etc
[20:34] <Kilos> wait
[20:34] <Langjan> ok will try
[20:34] <Kilos> if you get that small window
[20:34] <Kilos> first you scroll to freenode
[20:34] <Kilos> tick freenode once
[20:34] <Langjan> ok
[20:34] <Kilos> then tick edit on the right
[20:35] <Kilos> type in #ubuntu-za in favourite channels
[20:35] <Kilos> delete any others there if there are any
[20:35] <Langjan> ok will do
[20:36] <Kilos> ok i wait for you
[20:36] <Langjan> ok
[20:36] <superfly> Langjan: there's a connections menu option somewhere which brings up that dialog again
[20:36] <Langjan> if i'm not back by 23:00, will try again tomorrow
[20:37] <Langjan> Thanks Superfly 
[20:38] <Kilos> eish
[20:38] <Kilos> i found it
[20:39] <Kilos> i forgot how to do it
[20:39] <Kilos> now i found it
[20:40] <Kilos> ty for the reminder superfly 
[20:40] <Kilos> its so so simple
[20:40]  * Kilos bows my head in shame
[20:43] <Kilos> jan
[20:43] <Kilos> its easy
[20:43] <Kilos> Langjan, 
[20:44] <Langjan> Hi Kilos,  after doing all that, I still get into the wrong channel again then have to redo the settings
[20:44] <Kilos> tick xchat in top left corner
[20:44] <Kilos> then network list
[20:44] <Kilos> you set it up there
[20:44] <Kilos> sorry for giving you a run around
[20:45] <Kilos> this way we can remove everything you dont want
[20:45] <Langjan> Everythings right in there but it still takes me to the wrong channel
[20:46] <Kilos> does it not leave the little window open
[20:46] <Kilos> dont tick connect
[20:47] <Kilos> and untick skip network list
[20:47] <Kilos> thats what makes it go straight online
[20:47] <Langjan> It was not selected
[20:48] <Kilos> does that little window not stay open
[20:48] <Kilos> eish
[20:49] <Langjan> Problem persists
[20:50] <Kilos> if you tick xchat and network list does it not stay open
[20:51] <Langjan> Is the server irc.freenode.net/8001 correct?
[20:51] <Kilos> yes
[20:51] <Langjan> Yes it stays open
[20:51] <Kilos> right slow down
[20:52] <Kilos> you see freenode
[20:52] <Langjan> yes
[20:52] <Kilos> scroll networks
[20:52] <Kilos> then tick edit
[20:52] <Kilos> tick freenode once then tick edit
[20:53] <Kilos> what you see
[20:53] <Langjan> again?
[20:53] <Kilos> are you in the edit mode of freenode now
[20:54] <Langjan> Favourite  channels #ubuntu-za 
[20:54] <Kilos> is that all thats there
[20:54] <Langjan> Auto connect
[20:54] <Kilos> no
[20:54] <Kilos> lets make sure its right first
[20:54] <Langjan> what else should be there?
[20:56] <Kilos> only that block that says global info must be ticked
[20:56] <Kilos> are you registered with irc
[20:57] <Langjan> OK I had global user clicked, have unticked that and it then asked my nickname, inserted, should be ok now. 
[20:57] <Langjan> What is irc? 
[20:57] <Kilos> internet relay channel
[20:58] <Kilos> yes  it should work
[20:58] <Kilos> irc is whewre you register the nick langjan
[20:58] <Langjan> ok ek gaan nou slaap moet more 5 uur opstaan, sal weer gesels, dankie virrie moeite.
[20:58] <Kilos> otherwise ones nickname gets stolen at times
[20:59] <Kilos> jys welkom
[20:59] <Kilos> it should work now
[20:59] <Kilos> see ya tomorrow
[20:59] <Kilos> lekker slaap
[20:59] <Langjan> Mooi loop en slaap met jou oogies toe!
[20:59] <Langjan> Dankie
[20:59] <Kilos> tell it connect before you close down
[21:00] <Kilos> anytime
[21:01] <Kilos> oh my
[21:02] <Kilos> wen jy inetpro 
[21:02] <inetpro> I 
[21:02] <inetpro> Wag
[21:03] <inetpro> Updates vat lank 
[21:04] <Kilos> ai
[21:04] <Kilos> dis laat jy moet gaan slaap
[21:06] <inetpro> Amper daar 
[21:06] <Kilos> sjoe
[21:06] <inetpro> Besig om nou quassel te instal
[21:08] <Kilos> ek wou did hier install maar dis baie megs
[21:08] <Kilos> al die kubuntu goed
[21:09] <Kilos> 58 meg
[21:10] <Kilos> grrr
[21:11] <inetpro> Kilos: hier's ek nou
[21:11] <Kilos> yay
[21:11] <Kilos> ok nou kan ons gaan slaap ne
[21:11] <inetpro> maar is gou besig om die NVidia drivers te installeer
[21:11] <Kilos> eish
[21:11] <Kilos> jy nie bang nie
[21:12] <inetpro> tumbleweed: at least I got this green icon + lock at the top for foreign drivers
[21:13] <inetpro> big thing is that I need to start up with nomodeset until I've installed the drivers
[21:13] <tumbleweed> ah
[21:13] <inetpro> Kilos: hoekom moet ek bang wees?
[21:13] <Kilos> net nou crash jy weer
[21:14] <tumbleweed> inetpro: that sounds like something you should talk to the ubuntu-x people about. Machines that require kernel options are *bad* for end-users
[21:14] <Kilos> doesnt it work wit nouveau 
[21:14] <inetpro> Kilos: nope
[21:14] <inetpro> at least not by default
[21:14] <Kilos> how do you see to install then
[21:16] <Kilos> without your mods does it boot to black screen ?
[21:16] <inetpro> https://plus.google.com/photos/114254397525521567468/albums/5680136389043315249
[21:17] <inetpro> tumbleweed: that's what it looks like when I boot up with a live disk
[21:17] <inetpro> without setting nomodeset
[21:17] <Kilos> i cant go there man
[21:17] <Kilos> you must tell me here
[21:17] <tumbleweed> inetpro: that's entirely non-optimal :P
[21:18] <tumbleweed> please file a bug against the linux package
[21:18] <inetpro> will do so as soon as I have some more time
[21:18] <Kilos> hehe ok guys, sleep tight
[21:18] <inetpro> and as soon as I know that I got everything working on a fresh install
[21:18] <Kilos> see ya tomorrow
[21:20] <inetpro> tumbleweed: should install the post-release update of the NVIDIA driver ?
[21:21] <inetpro> or just the recommended (current version)
[21:21] <tumbleweed> inetpro: what do you mean by post-release update?
[21:21] <inetpro> or both?
[21:21] <inetpro> got this screen for installing Proprietary drivers
[21:22] <inetpro> with both options
[21:22] <tumbleweed> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers doesn't mention any post-release updates for oneiric
[21:22] <tumbleweed> inetpro: screenshot please?
[21:24] <inetpro> https://plus.google.com/photos/114254397525521567468/albums/5680160469738361073
[21:26] <inetpro> tumbleweed: ^^
[21:27] <inetpro> ok I'm just leaving it as is now with just the recommended...
[21:27] <inetpro> gonna reboot quickly and see what gives
[21:30] <tumbleweed> inetpro: right, that's a separate package
[21:30] <tumbleweed> I guess if you need it, you use it
[21:31] <inetpro> ok, all seems working perfectly now
[21:31] <tumbleweed> \o/
[21:32] <inetpro> lemme quickly log a bug
[21:32] <inetpro> tumbleweed: where do I start and what do I put in there?
[21:32] <tumbleweed> inetpro: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[21:33] <tumbleweed> ubuntu-bug linux, and describe the problem (and be prepared to test on daily CDs every now and then)
[21:34] <inetpro> eish
[21:35] <tumbleweed> don't you like giving back? :)
[21:35] <inetpro> sure, don't worry I'll do it :-)
[21:36] <tumbleweed> there's an alpha coming out this week, it'd be awesome if you could test on it
[21:36] <tumbleweed> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[21:37] <inetpro> hmm... I just need sleep urgently
[21:37] <inetpro> where do I log bugs for X?
[21:37] <tumbleweed> depends on where the bug is
[21:37] <tumbleweed> the intel driver is in its own package
[21:38] <tumbleweed> as is the proprietory nvidia driver
[21:38] <inetpro> eish... launcpad timing out for me
[21:38] <tumbleweed> nouveau: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[21:39] <tumbleweed> what operation is timing out?
[21:39] <inetpro> was doing a bug search
[21:39] <inetpro> my connection is very bad today
[21:46] <inetpro> hmm...
[21:47] <inetpro> Please describe the bug in a few words, for example, "weather applet crashes on logout": 
[21:47] <inetpro> tumbleweed: what you think I should write?
[21:48] <tumbleweed> inetpro: Screen corrupted without nomodeset on *insert-model-here*
[21:49] <inetpro> Screen corrupted without nomodeset on nVidia Corporation GT215 [GeForce GTS 360M] 
[21:49] <tumbleweed> with a little more explanation in the body. State what works, what doesn't and which CDs you saw it on
[21:50] <tumbleweed> attach a screenshot
[21:55] <inetpro> do I attach a screenshot afterwards?
[21:56] <inetpro> ahh..
[21:56] <inetpro> extra options
[22:00] <inetpro> tumbleweed: ok that took way to long
[22:00] <inetpro> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-nouveau/+bug/897436
[22:00] <tumbleweed> inetpro: you get better at it with practice :)
[22:00] <inetpro> thanks again for the help
[22:01] <tumbleweed> inetpro: if nobody replies within a week or two, please remind me, and I'll poke people :)
[22:02] <inetpro> ok cool, thanks
[22:06] <inetpro> good night eveyone
[22:06] <tumbleweed> night