[00:00] <akilll> ciao
[00:00] <akilll> !list
[00:00] <reisio> 'lo
[00:00] <akilll> !list
[00:01] <Guest2919> reisio: dd-ing ur script returns 'unrecognised operand dvdimage.dd
[00:02] <Guest2919> btw, lindvdcss2, libdvdread and libdvdnav4 are already installed
[00:02] <reisio> Guest2919: sounds like you got the syntax wrong
[00:02] <reisio> Guest2919: try: dd if=/dev/dvd of=path/to/dvd.img
[00:03] <kcw45> Guest2919, if your region is set wrong, chances are libdvdcss2 is not going to decrypt your disc
[00:03] <reisio> libdvdcss shouldn't care
[00:03] <reisio> it's an issue of his hardware player playing it
[00:03] <escott> reisio, but is the hardware going to be willing to send the data to the os?
[00:04] <reisio> escott: easy way to find out
[00:04] <kcw45> reisio, gotcha.  i had problem with a spanish disc recently.  i didn't want to regionset my player, so i just used slysoft in a vm (ashamed) =(
[00:04] <reisio> kcw45: heh
[00:04] <Guest2919> reisio, ok. the new script returns 'opening 'path/to/dvd.img': no such file or directory'
[00:04] <reisio> I rather thought most modern computer systems didn't bother with region enforcement
[00:05] <reisio> Guest2919: that's a placeholder
[00:05] <reisio> Guest2919: if=/dev/dvd is finite, it says where your dvd device is, presumably at /dev/dvd
[00:05] <reisio> Guest2919: of (for output file) is where you want to save the copy
[00:05] <Guest2919> i see. let me check
[00:05] <reisio> Guest2919: so dd if=/dev/dvd of=/home/somedude/copy.img
[00:05] <escott> !dvd | Guest2919 start by making sure that the css library is installed as described here. if that doesn't work its not likely anything will work
[00:05] <reisio> the filename doesn't matter, just make it unique and easy to identify
[00:08] <Bullworth> i am trying to set the resulution of my ubuntu server box , and i just entered 'sudo vi /etc/default/grub' and im in a grub file
[00:08] <Bullworth> how can i exit this
[00:08] <Bullworth> immidiatly without saving
[00:08] <kcw45> Bullworth, :q!
[00:08] <cicero_> salve
[00:09] <Guest2919> escott, the css library is installed
[00:09] <Bullworth> :q!   ????
[00:09] <Bullworth> what you mean by that
[00:09] <kcw45> Bullworth, you might have to hit escape before typing that
[00:09] <reisio> Bullworth: hit ESC a couple times, then type ':q!', then hit ENTER
[00:09] <reisio> Bullworth: use nano -w next time if you're not familiar with vi/m
[00:10] <Bullworth> ah yeah it helped
[00:10] <Bullworth> so im out of it again
[00:10] <Bullworth> teh thing is
[00:10] <Bullworth> im running the server on vbox on a windows machine
[00:10] <escott> Guest2919, and you manually ran the script in /var/lib?
[00:10] <Bullworth> and the box is still in 640x480 mode
[00:11] <Bullworth> what is the best way to change the resolution of the box to 1024x768
[00:11] <JadedJacob> hi, i'm trying to reach the recovery console in ubuntu, but when i choose 'recovery console' from the grub menu. it starts loading and then my monitor goes into standby :(
[00:11] <reisio> Bullworth: you installed a DE?
[00:11] <JadedJacob> ubuntu standard loads fine.
[00:11] <escott> Bullworth, thats the standard minimal vesa mode. you can change the default framebuffer setting by modifying grub as you suggested. by why not just install openssh and use putty?
[00:11] <Bullworth> im such a rookie omg , whats a DE
[00:11] <JadedJacob> (I'm trying to recover my password)
[00:11] <reisio> Bullworth: like GNOME
[00:11] <Guest2919> escott, sorry im not that aware of cli. whhich script do i run in /var/lib?
[00:11] <reisio> Bullworth: a graphical _D_esktop _E_nvironment
[00:12] <Bullworth> aaah
[00:12] <escott> Guest2919, did you read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs#Installing_libdvdcss
[00:12] <reisio> JadedJacob: read this? https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/user-forgottenpassword.html
[00:12] <Bullworth> yeah well i just started the journy of linux so im a real nub in this so many ways todo one thing
[00:12] <Bullworth> a frickin wood of info comin at me lol
[00:13] <carey> hi can anyone help me with mdadm?
[00:13] <carey> happy to buy someone a beer...
[00:13] <carey> :)
[00:13] <escott> !anyone | carey
[00:13] <reisio> Bullworth: most Linux servers are managed from commands only, so the resolution is irrelevant
[00:13] <reisio> Bullworth: if you want to give yourself a GUI you can, by installing ubuntu-desktop
[00:14] <carey> I need to mount a RAID10 mdadm array in a live CD so I can access my files. But I can't work out how to do it
[00:14] <reisio> Bullworth: after that you'd want to install virtualbox guest additions
[00:14] <escott> Bullworth, and if you dont want the gui just install openssh-server and use putty (a windows program) to shell into your server
[00:14] <Bullworth> reiso i understand that , but the resolution is a bit small , even normal info will break on to the next line
[00:14] <reisio> Bullworth: well if you ssh in there will be no such restriction
[00:14] <Bullworth> i think changing it to even 800x600 make the info bit more readable
[00:15] <kcw45> Bullworth, as stated previously, "nano -w <filename>" is easier... i love it =)  also, if you are using virtualbox with a graphical DE, then you may want to install the virtualbox extensions on the guest machine.  this might help out with resolutions
[00:15] <carey> It's something like mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 --level=raid10 --raid-devices=4 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1
[00:15] <carey> but i worry that if I run the command it might wipe my array, just wanting someone to confirm it if possible :)
[00:15] <orlok> carey: do the drives all show up in dmesg?
[00:16] <carey> yeah they do
[00:16] <Bullworth> so how would i install the guest additions on a linux ubuntu box
[00:16] <reisio> Bullworth: you'd want to sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop first
[00:16] <Bullworth> normally with a windows box its eazy
[00:16] <carey> when I run mdadm --assemble --scan it misses out one drive (/dev/sdb1)
[00:16] <carey> but the drive is fine, shows up with fdisk fine
[00:16] <orlok> carey: yeah, iirc its mdadm --manage, i think --assemble may assume --manage
[00:17] <Bullworth> isnt the ubuntu desktop app like gnome ?
[00:17] <reisio> Bullworth: yes
[00:17] <Bullworth> what is it exaclty what does it
[00:17] <carey> so i think maybe the manual command (with the list of drives) is what I want instead of the auto scan (from --scan)
[00:17] <reisio> Bullworth: it gives you more than a commandline environment
[00:17] <Bullworth> does it make my server look like the desktop version suddenly
[00:17] <reisio> Bullworth: yup
[00:17] <kcw45> Bullworth, if you are using virtualbox, use the 'Devices' menu and select 'Install Guest Addiitons'... and yes, make sure you have a graphical DE first using reisio's suggestions
[00:18] <Bullworth> hmm i read about that somewhere in a forum and it needed some extra config to make the gnome desktop start up auto insteadt of ending up in te comand lne again
[00:18] <carey> well I think I'm going to try this command: "mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 --level=raid10 --raid-devices=4 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1".... hopefully nothing goes wrong )
[00:19] <reisio> Bullworth: probably sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults
[00:19] <IHateHavingToReg> i want to test my mail server is working properly, how do i send something to my gmail that just says "test" ?
[00:19] <carey> they are the right drives and partitions, right raid level (10) and the right number of devices (4). Just not sure on the --assemble bit as to what it means :)
[00:19] <Bullworth> what is the update-rc.d gdm ?
[00:19] <escott> carey, assemble just assembles an existing array from the different components. if the components didn't match up it would complain
[00:20] <Bullworth> must stand for somthing
[00:20] <jrib> Bullworth: what is your question?
[00:20] <Bullworth> what does the abbreviation stand for
[00:20] <jrib> Bullworth: what abbreviation?
[00:20] <Bullworth> or better sayd what am i exactly doing when i put that command i teh console
[00:21] <orlok> carey: --assemble is the one you want
[00:21] <jrib> Bullworth: what command...?
[00:21] <escott> Bullworth, rc is for system V system runlevels. it means add gdm to the normal list of programs to start at boot
[00:21] <reisio> Bullworth: it means update the rc daemons system to add gdm
[00:21] <Bullworth> ah gdm is gnome desktop manager ?
[00:21] <Bullworth> right .. ?
[00:21] <jrib> Bullworth: yes (which isn't the default anymore)
[00:21] <reisio> Bullworth: it's the login manager for GNOME
[00:21] <escott> Bullworth, display manager but yes
[00:21] <reisio> oh yeahhhhhh
[00:21] <reisio> I guess you'd want lightdm
[00:21] <reisio> depending on the version of Ubuntu you're using
[00:21] <Bullworth> also posisble :P
[00:22] <Bullworth> mine is latest
[00:22] <Bullworth> 11.10
[00:22] <itguy51_> does 11.10 have the GDM rc script?
[00:22] <reisio> sudo update-rc.d lightdm defaults, if it doesn't do it by default, then
[00:23] <reisio> then sudo apt-get install build-essential module-assistant && sudo m-a prepare
[00:23] <Bullworth> i realy wouldnt know if 11.10 has the gdm rc script lol
[00:23] <cablop> ¬¬ i hate ubuntu now
[00:23] <reisio> then click vbox's install guest additiosn to mount its image
[00:23] <reisio> then run the appropriate shell script to install it
[00:23] <kcw45> itguy51_, i am not sure it does.  i installed it manually, and used dpkg-reconfigure on it to set it as default
[00:23] <reisio> cablop: good times
[00:24] <carey> escott, ok thank you. actually I was having a problem with /dev/sdb1 not appearing in raid array. I can see why now, because /proc/mdstat has /dev/dsb1 as inactive listed as /dev/md_d0 (it must have been auto detected, because I have not instructed mdadm.conf to do anything with my raid drives). I have just run mdadm --stop /dev/md_d0 and it stopped it. Now I'm going to try the assemble command.
[00:24] <cablop> i opened a remote session of it using nx, when it asked me for the kind of session i want i selected GNOME, but it opened me Unity instead!!! are the ubuntu guys even overtaking the name of gnome???
[00:24] <cablop> how can i remove unity so i can just have gnome, gnome-shell, not unity?
[00:25] <itguy51_> Yeah, I was trying to configure CUDA, and it was telling me to restart GDM, and, running the standard "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" ended with a "File not found"
[00:25] <itguy51_> so, I was thinking 11.10 dropped it.
[00:25] <Guest2919> reisio, hi. finally figured out the dd command. it returns input/output error;  6160+0 records in;  6160+0 records out;  3153920 bytes (3.2 MB) copied, 2.24785 s, 1.4 MB/s
[00:25] <carey> the assemble command returned "mdadm:option --level not valid in assemble mode"
[00:26] <reisio> Guest2919: okay, you can try ddrescue if you want
[00:26] <escott> itguy51_, lightdm is the default dm in 11.10
[00:26] <reisio> Guest2919: dd if=foo of=bar becomes ddrescue foo bar
[00:26] <Bullworth> so what is the best way now
[00:26] <carey> I'm pretty sure I used --create in the past to access my mdadm RAID10 in a livecd before, it just sounds bad because in the manpage it says "creates a NEW array"...
[00:27] <Bullworth> install the gdm first then vbox additions
[00:27] <reisio> Bullworth: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[00:27] <Bullworth> or other way around or doesnt matter
[00:27] <genoobie> hey I am trying to map a network drive and I am kind of stuck
[00:27] <reisio> Bullworth: reboot, if it doesn't start the DE automatically, run sudo update-rc.d lightdm defaults
[00:27] <Guest2919> reisio, ok. trying it out now
[00:27] <reisio> Bullworth: then give a yell
[00:28] <escott> carey, the array should have information in it about what level it is and the uuids of the other disks so the level is superfluous
[00:28] <carey> Is "sudo mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=raid10 --raid-devices=4 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1" safe to run on an existing array? I think it might work but not sure if safe to my data...
[00:28] <Bullworth> ok ima try that but since u want me to install the gnome desktop now isnt it best just to get things dont with the desktop version then anyway since evrything is in place there alrdy
[00:28] <carey> escott I'll try omitting the level thanks
[00:28] <sparkss> hmmmm why now when I just upgraded to 11.10 does my system boot into Busybox ?
[00:28] <sparkss> I want it to fully boot regardless of what it thinks my raid array is doing
[00:28] <reisio> Bullworth: you don't need the desktop for your server to function, but it sounded a lot like you personally wanted it
[00:28] <cablop> how can i remove Unity?
[00:28] <escott> !nounity | cablop
[00:29] <itguy51_> Unity question
[00:29] <Bullworth> no lol i just want my server resoltion changed to 800x600 or more to make it more readble
[00:29] <cablop> i want for GNOME to mean GNOME!!! not Unity, if i want to launch GNOME , why ubuntu is giving me unity instead!!!!
[00:29] <Bullworth> and to learn do basic stuff
[00:29] <carey> escott, I omitted the options and it worked, but I still have the same problem. "mdadm: /dev/md0 has been started with 3 drives (out of 4). "
[00:29] <sparkss> hmmm
[00:29] <itguy51_> Is there any way to make the menu items at the top stay put
[00:29] <reisio> cablop: log out, click the cog next to the login box
[00:29] <itguy51_> and not hide when I mouse off of them?
[00:29] <escott> carey, it may be rejecting the drive for some reason (stale timestamp or hardware failure)
[00:29] <reisio> Bullworth: start VirtualBox headlessly and remote into your box with ssh
[00:30] <cablop> escott: yes, i did that, but i am opening it via a remote tool, i select the kind of shell we want to use, i selected GNOME, and it launched Unity!!
[00:30] <samseo> kan hier jemand deutsch ? und kann mir dabei helfen in ubuntu ein cd/dvd lauferk einzubinden
[00:30] <reisio> samseo: #ubuntu-de
[00:30] <sparkss> why can I never get help in here... lol
[00:30] <samseo> thx
[00:30] <cablop> reisio: no loginbox i am login remotely, so i expected for gnome to call gnome, not unity, :S
[00:31] <samseo> #ubuntu-de
[00:31] <carey> escott, yes it must be. For some reason /dev/sdb1 is listed separately in /proc/mdstat. It has "md0 : active raid10 sda1[0] sdd1[3] sdc1[2] "   and "md_d0 : inactive sdb1[1](S)"
[00:31] <reisio> samseo: /join #ubuntu-de
[00:31] <cablop> i think i am going to end installing KDE for remote usage :S
[00:31] <carey> so /dev/md0 is all good with the 3 drives. But sdb1 says inactive, on a different device (md_d0), and it has an (S) after it - not sure what that means.
[00:31] <samseo> thx :-9
[00:31] <reisio> cablop: up to you
[00:31] <sparkss> carey
[00:31] <samseo> :-)
[00:31] <carey> Maybe I should try some verbose options
[00:31] <Guest2919> reisio, the output for ddrescue is: ddrescue: error in logfile /home/blah/blah, line 1;  ddrescue: Are you using a logfile from ddrescue 1.5 or older?
[00:31] <sparkss> just re add it to your array.... if it is in fact raid 10
[00:31] <cablop> yep :(
[00:32] <carey> it is
[00:32] <carey> How do I re-add it?
[00:32] <Bullworth> ok i understand ur idea reiso but im running the box alrdy in a screen , i dont see a reason to startup a linux box headless and then use a program and use extra system resources then just run the vbox directly from the vbox with screen itself
[00:32] <carey> It is absolutely raid10 and the drive shows up with correct partitions with fdisk
[00:32] <Bullworth> u know what i mean
[00:32] <cablop> reisio, but what made me sad is that gnome is not gnome in ubuntu, the command that will call gnome is calling unity instead, then.... what is calling gnome??? this makes me believe gnome 3 is not a real gnome on ubuntu... :S
[00:32] <reisio> Bullworth: I do, but it doesn't make sense
[00:32] <sparkss> something like mdadm --add /dev/md0 /dev/sd*
[00:32] <sparkss> it will rebuild from there
[00:33] <carey> Hmm yes I think maybe: mdadm --manage /dev/md0 --add /dev/sdb1
[00:33] <carey> I'll give it a go
[00:33] <reisio> Bullworth: you can try this, though
[00:33] <sparkss> i dont think u need the --manage flag with new mdadm's
[00:33] <carey> oh ok
[00:33] <itguy51_> what is the default compositor for 11.10?
[00:33] <carey> this is 10.04 LTS though
[00:33] <sparkss> thats fine
[00:33] <luigi69> Hi i have a problem ;/ i don't know Unix well, and i wanna have a subdomain under ip like so: project.xxx.xxx.xx.xx, a run apache for the web server, how can i do that?
[00:33] <sparkss> :P
[00:33] <reisio> Bullworth: sudo apt-get install build-essential module-assistant && sudo m-a prepare
[00:33] <reisio> Bullworth: then hit install guest additions in the vbox menu at the top of the window
[00:33] <sparkss> can someone tell me why after i upgraded to 11.10 my system boots with this initramfs
[00:33] <sparkss> ?
[00:34] <reisio> Bullworth: then cd /media/VBOS-something-here/ and rune sudo sh VBoxLinuxArchWhatever.run
[00:34] <reisio> Bullworth: and run*
[00:34] <carey> IT WORKED
[00:34] <reisio> Bullworth: they might have something in there for consoles, but I wouldn't hold my breath
[00:34] <sparkss> :)
[00:34] <Bullworth> hmm tnx
[00:35] <luigi69> I've tried this
[00:35] <luigi69> http://tips-linux.net/en/linux-ubuntu/configure-linux/virtual-host-subdomains-apache
[00:35] <luigi69> but it really doesnt' work for me ;/
[00:35] <itguy51_> Luigi69: is it actually possible to subdomain an IP?
[00:35] <carey> sparkss THANK YOU
[00:35] <carey> escott THANK YUO
[00:35] <sparkss> your welcome
[00:35] <itguy51_> I know that you can route a host entry and trick it
[00:36] <Bullworth> ill try this
[00:36] <carey> I ran "sudo mdadm --manage /dev/md0 --add /dev/sdb1" and it returned "mdadm: re-added /dev/sdb1". Woo-hoo. (I had to run: "mdadm --stop /dev/sdb1" first to get rid of the inactive /dev/md_d0 though, and presto!) :)
[00:37] <itguy51_> Luigi69: If I read your original question correctly, you would want something like blah.192.168.1.8 or the likes, correct?
[00:37] <luigi69> itguy51_ yeah
[00:37] <luigi69> but with public ip
[00:37] <sparkss> Can someone tell me why after upgrading through package manager to 11.10 my system boots into BusyBox and initramfs? How can I start normally?!
[00:38] <luigi69> i have a server, i can access websites there, but i need a subdomain
[00:38] <Hilikus>  is there a way to merge snapshots in virtualbox using another disk as temporary storage? i don't have enough space in that drive to merge them there
[00:38] <itguy51_> Luigi69: I don't think that's possible, I know that you could technically do it, but you would need to modify /etc/hosts
[00:39] <itguy51_> and point it to that IP address
[00:39] <luigi69> itguy51_ should i just write there like blah.myip myip ?
[00:39] <lynx7os5> how do you change ubuntu gdm theme?
[00:40] <itguy51_> either that, or you could take an unregisterable domain like blah.myser.ver
[00:40] <reisio> lynx7os5: pgrep -l dm
[00:40] <itguy51_> Luigi69: That's what I do quite a bit.
[00:40] <escott> Hilikus, dont know anything about what you are doing but you can always attach a disk to wherever you want on the filesystem. so if vbox uses a particular directory to complete the merge attach your new disk there
[00:41] <Tacho> hi
[00:41] <lynx7os5> 2297 gdm-binary
[00:41] <lynx7os5> 2298 gdm-simple-slav
[00:41] <lynx7os5> 2333 gdm-simple-gree
[00:41] <lynx7os5> 2336 gdm-session-wor
[00:41] <FloodBot1> lynx7os5: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:41] <Santiago74> hola, i need help
[00:42] <escott> sparkss, have you fscked your filesystems? is your root mountable? is the correct root being passed to the kernel as an argument?
[00:42] <sparkss> my operating system isn't even on a mdadm raid array...
[00:42] <sparkss> its just a single disk, the raid's are just file storage seperate from my o/s
[00:43] <sparkss> but in any case it keeps dropping me to a shell busybox / initramfs
[00:43] <sparkss> and im not sure how to ignore it and start x
[00:43] <luigi69> join #ubuntu-pl
[00:43] <Santiago74> hi
[00:44] <escott> sparkss, if you are still in the initramfs it means that the root partition has not been mounted for some reason. you can't just ignore that. you need to figure out why it stopped
[00:44] <genoobie> hey all
[00:44] <genoobie> hey all I am trying to access an SMB share on my network
[00:45] <genoobie> but I keep running into trouble
[00:45] <genoobie> smbmount is a good command
[00:45] <genoobie> and mount.cifs exists
[00:45] <sparkss> hmmm escott, all I did was run the update package manager and updated from 11.04 to 11.10
[00:45] <sparkss> lol
[00:46] <Santiago74> login problem, with pma
[00:46] <escott> sparkss, which replaces virtually every single piece of software on the entire system
[00:47] <sparkss> hmmm ok...
[00:47] <sparkss> im not sure how to move forward hehe
[00:47] <scorinitron> Is it possible to get areo snap on xfce?
[00:47] <escott> sparkss, so check the output of `mount` is your root partition mounted? can you fsck your root partition?
[00:48] <sparkss> ok one moment
[00:48] <CharminTheMoose> My system is using a horrendous amount of cache. What can I do to clear a bit of it?
[00:48] <xangua> scorinitron: is that the drag and full screen feature¿
[00:48] <scorinitron> Xangua: nah it's the side by side feature
[00:49] <reisio> scorinitron: drag to side, right?
[00:49] <xangua> scorinitron: if you install compiz and configure it, maybe
[00:49] <scorinitron> hmm
[00:49] <scorinitron> It's a shame cause unity has it...
[00:49] <xangua> ubuntu already is configured that way
[00:49] <reisio> ah, the complete lack of answer
[00:50] <observation> Are the restricted media codecs that can be installed on Ubuntu restricted because they're illegal to install?
[00:50] <orlok> CharminTheMoose: what sort of cache? the OS caching data is normal and desirable
[00:50] <devkorcvince> observation: depends on the country you are in
[00:50] <observation> How can I find out?
[00:50] <scorinitron> i'm using xfce...the only thing I get is the drag to fullscreen but I wanted the ability to drag a window to a corner (either left or right) and it will fill up half of the screen
[00:51] <scorinitron> xubuntu btw
[00:51] <reisio> observation: it's more that Canonical doesn't want to deal with any potential legal issues
[00:51] <observation> reisio: neither do I :P
[00:51] <reisio> observation: don't waste your time
[00:51] <orlok> observation: restricted usually means "non-free" as in, non open source, "legal" or not will depend on your location
[00:52] <reisio> the only people at risk are entities _with money_ that are redistributing it
[00:52] <sparkss> hmmm this is all so confusing to me.. I don't get it
[00:52] <reisio> and the original software programmers themselves
[00:52] <orlok> observation: graphiocs card drivers are also listed as restricted, nothing to do with legality, its all about freedom
[00:52] <devkorcvince> observation: read your country legal rights in copyrights
[00:52] <sparkss> I see rootfs on / type rootfs
[00:52] <sparkss> when issuing the mount command in initramfs
[00:53] <CharminTheMoose> orlok, I'm not too sure which exact cache, but free -m might make it more clear: http://pastebin.com/FwxjfGq5
[00:53] <scorinitron> why won't xubuntu read my  usb drives?
[00:53] <escott> sparkss, so the output of mount is a series of lines like /dev/something on /mountpoint type filesystem type (options go here) you want /dev/sdX# on / type ext4 if you dont have that then your root is probably not mounted
[00:53] <orlok> CharminTheMoose: Dont worry.
[00:53] <observation> I understood that the restrictions on my graphics card drivers were merely that they were not open-source, but did not cost anything to use.
[00:53] <escott> sparkss, do you know what /dev/sdX# your root filesystem is on?
[00:53] <orlok> CharminTheMoose: the kernel knows how to manage its memory better than you do
[00:53] <delinquentme> ubuntu 10.04 runs debian right?
[00:53] <reisio> scorinitron: pretty sure they'll have that in Xfce coming to theaters near you
[00:53] <reisio> scorinitron: window snapping stuff
[00:53] <sparkss> well not typically because I have 20 hard disks in this system
[00:53] <sparkss> lol
[00:53] <reisio> delinquentme: it's sourced from Debian
[00:54] <sparkss> and sometimes the drive letters change around
[00:54] <scorinitron> reisio, lol cool XD
[00:54] <sparkss> and I do not see it mounted :/
[00:54] <reisio> delinquentme: as all other versions of Ubuntu are
[00:54] <reisio> scorinitron: meanwhile if you don't rely on anything Xfwm specific, you could use compiz I think as whatshisname suggested
[00:54] <alket> Im using Ubuntu 11.10 and I was using USB mouse on my lap top, when I removed the usb mouse the "builtin" mouse stopped working, even after reboot , Who do I fix it ? Thank you.
[00:54] <escott> observation, like reisio said restricted means non-free or worse. in the US many media things are also illegal (although I've never heard of anyone even charged before)
[00:54] <Bullworth> reiso i tried what you sayd to me
[00:54] <scorinitron> !compiz
[00:54] <Bullworth> i did that command and it worked perfectly
[00:55] <Bullworth> but how everi try to mount that guest additions iso from vbox menu
[00:55] <scorinitron> so sudo apt-get install compiz?
[00:55] <Bullworth> it doesnt mount it
[00:55] <delinquentme> reisio, so then when given these options for an apache install debian RHEL/Centos  Fedora Arch Linux SUSE Linux  <<<
[00:55] <delinquentme> debian would be the optimal choice
[00:55] <observation> Yes but for someone who is not technically literate free software can be a nightmare as much as propreitary software?
[00:55] <CharminTheMoose> orlok, well the cache is quite filled now and when I load up something like firefox with java and flash, the cache itself (not used ram) will fill to 1.9 gigs and then start having its way with not drawing the xchat window properly.. like as if it's an OOM situation.
[00:55] <Bullworth> if i check ls /media it only says cdrom
[00:55] <reisio> Bullworth: how do you know it doesn't mount
[00:55] <reisio> delinquentme: yes
[00:56] <sparkss> let me try booting up in a different kern
[00:56] <MrCollins> is there any howto sites or can someone help point me in the right direction? my wifes flash drive arbitrarily lost all of its data, it is a corsair 16 GB fat32 drive... any hope of undeleting the data to retrieve? it is school related... just need a hand if possible.... please help if you can
[00:56] <reisio> observation: well with free software people can easily setup autoconfiguration stuff for you
[00:56] <sparkss> nope same thing... ugh
[00:56] <alket> Im using Ubuntu 11.10 and I was using USB mouse on my lap top, when I removed the usb mouse the "builtin" mouse stopped working, even after reboot , Who do I fix it ? Thank you.
[00:56] <WanderingEnder> What is "dhclient3" and is it part of the dhcp-server3 server package, or what?
[00:56] <escott> sparkss, right drive letters are not guaranteed to be consistent. there should be a uuid passed which will identify the root device. check /proc/cmdline (if it exists) and blkid if it exists
[00:56] <reisio> MrCollins: is it giving i/o errors, or what?
[00:57] <observation> reisio: sorry I'm not even debating free vs. nonfree software, I was hoping to find out if installing gstreamer is illegal for me to do or not.
[00:57] <orlok> CharminTheMoose: Do you have swap space? And the OS will free up memory if required, long before any OOM issues
[00:57] <reisio> WanderingEnder: dpkg -L dhcp-server3 | grep -i dhclient3
[00:57] <xangua> alket: by built in, you mean trackpad'¿
[00:57] <orlok> observation: ask a lawyer where you are.
[00:57] <reisio> WanderingEnder: or sudo apt-get install apt-file, then search for it
[00:57] <observation> orlok, will do.
[00:57] <alket> xangua, I gues so
[00:57] <digdeep> Hi, my laptop is very hot, after installing kernel 3.0.0-13. Has anyone tried to install this kernel fix --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/PowerManagement
[00:57] <reisio> observation: what I'm saying is even if it is illegal wherever you are
[00:57] <sparkss> escott I found the drive letter
[00:57] <reisio> observation: you will not ever get into trouble for installing it
[00:58] <xangua> alket: then try your function keys to enabl/disable trackpad
[00:58] <scorinitron> if you don't mind me asking...now that I have installed compiz how would I get it running? is their a compiz manager? Or does it install itself in the settings menu?
[00:58] <Bullworth> reiso: this website gave me sortlike explaination as you gave me: http://virtualboxes.org/doc/installing-guest-additions-on-ubuntu/
[00:58] <reisio> observation: as I said before, in such situations the only entities at risk are redistributors (not you) that have lots of money (not you), and the original software authors (not you)
[00:58] <WanderingEnder> thanks, reisio.
[00:58] <Bullworth> and it doesnt mount it :S what am i doing wrong here
[00:58] <alket> xangua, thank you man, you saved , I didn;t know it
[00:58] <reisio> scorinitron: probably compiz --replace, and then log out and see if the session saves it
[00:58] <escott> sparkss, when you determine what the root device is you need to fsck /dev/sdX#
[00:58] <MrCollins> reisio: actually it is not giving errors at all... it was deleted when it was plugged into a win7 pc... im in linux now in hopes that there is some 'linux hack' that could be of some use....
[00:59] <observation> reisio: alright, I appreciate it :)
[00:59] <szal> digdeep: that bug is supposed to be fixed w/ kernel 3.0.0-13, it was officially present in the preceding 3.0.0-12 though
[00:59] <WanderingEnder> For wahtever reason, dhcp3-client was asking for a DHCP address on the static DHCP server interface.
[00:59] <scorinitron> reisio, so enter  compiz --replace in the terminal?
[00:59] <reisio> Bullworth: you could just wget/scp/transfer the iso into your install and mount it
[00:59] <reisio> scorinitron: ALT+F2 would be a little kinder
[01:00] <scorinitron> reisio, lol nothing happened?
[01:00] <observation> Thanks a lot guys!!! :)
[01:00] <reisio> scorinitron: pgrep -l xfwm; pgrep -l compiz
[01:00] <CharminTheMoose> orlok, heh, good point.. guess in my over zealousness to reduce writes to the disk on this laptop I did put /proc/sys/vm/swappiness to 0.. should probably increase that a few notches.
[01:00] <digdeep> @szal, so the bug is not fixed in 3.0.0-13?
[01:01] <itguy51_> Question. Is Ubuntu 11.10 using compiz for compositing still?
[01:01] <orlok> CharminTheMoose: got noatime?
[01:01] <orlok> CharminTheMoose: SSD i guess?
[01:01] <CharminTheMoose> orlok, am using relatime.
[01:01] <szal> digdeep: I don't know really, I don't use powersaving for lack of a mobile device
[01:01] <scorinitron> reisio,2890 xfwm4
[01:02] <sparkss> escott, i cant run fsck from initramfs ..
[01:02] <reisio> itguy51_: I believe so, yes
[01:02] <CharminTheMoose> orlok, well not an SSD, I just want to let the disk spin down, like. :)
[01:02] <reisio> scorinitron: did you actually install compiz yet?
[01:02] <scorinitron> yeah
[01:02] <scorinitron> reisio, Processing triggers for libc-bin ...
[01:02] <scorinitron> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[01:02] <CharminTheMoose> (absolute nightmare to do with firefox! had to relocate my profile to RAM)
[01:02] <scorinitron> it's been stuck their in another terminal window so I assumed it installed...
[01:03] <CrustyBarnacle> sparkss: can you boot to a LiveCD and run 'fsck' from there?
[01:03] <sparkss> guess ill have to download a live cd..
[01:05] <reisio> scorinitron: it what
[01:05] <Peti4> hi
[01:05] <sparkss> this is just silly though
[01:05] <sparkss> hhe
[01:05] <reisio> hi Peti4
[01:05] <itguy51_> Reisio: Thanks. I kept trying to restart a different compositor that the docs said was used.
[01:06] <Roasted> does rhythmbox have its own irc channel?
[01:06] <reisio> Roasted: probably on irc.gnome.org
[01:06] <Peti4> anyone can help me in openvpn server?
[01:06] <sparkss> escott what doesnt make sense is i can browse to /etc/mdadm which is on my root drive and it shows my mdadm.conf
[01:06] <reisio> Roasted: yes
[01:06] <sparkss> so my root partition has to be mounted...
[01:06] <sparkss> although i cant cd into /home
[01:07] <escott> sparkss, not necessarily some stuff gets copied into the initramfs as needed. if fsck is not in the initramfs what you need to do is either (boot a livecd) or mount the root partition in ro mode to some location, and then you can chroot into that
[01:07] <scorinitron> reisio, srry let me rephrase that...I think compiz finished installing. In the terminal Window the last line that shows up is this [ldconfig deferred processing now taking place] I think all I need to do is restart...
[01:08] <sparkss> ill boot via livecd
[01:08] <CrustyBarnacle> sparkss: what is the output of 'mount | grep home' ?
[01:08] <escott> sparkss, mount -o ro /dev/sdX# /mnt; chroot /mnt /bin/bash
[01:08] <scorinitron> reisio, I was wondering if their's some kind of manager for compiz so I can change/add themes
[01:08] <iuriguilherme> sparkss: i haven't read your whole problem, but have you checked if the permissions are properly set?
[01:08]  * MrCollins clears throat ;)
[01:08] <Peti4> i need client-to-client connect in openvpn server and i don't know why doesn't work
[01:09] <iuriguilherme> sparkss: i mean the permissions of the directories
[01:09] <Peti4> sorry for my english
[01:09] <sparkss> permissions on what?
[01:09] <reisio> scorinitron: yes there is, search with your package manager
[01:09] <sparkss> I just upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 and now its dumping me to initramfs
[01:09] <sparkss> hehe
[01:10] <sparkss> and actually I must have guessed the wrong drive.. ugh there must be a easier way to find out which is my boot drive letter
[01:11] <sparkss> my livecd is almost ready on USB though
[01:11] <sparkss> or maybe it isnt
[01:12] <escott> sparkss, the way to determine that is with blkid and looking at /proc/cmdline
[01:12] <sparkss> CrustyBarnacle no output
[01:12] <sparkss> ok I cat proc/cmdline and it shows me root=UUID etc
[01:12] <scorinitron> Thanks reisio I just installed it
[01:12] <escott> sparkss, and now you need to find that in the output of blkid
[01:13] <sparkss> ok found it
[01:14] <sparkss> i ran your cmd escott mount -o ro /dev/sdX# /mnt; chroot /mnt /bin/bash
[01:14] <sparkss> but it said
[01:14] <escott> sparkss, so now you need to mount -o ro /dev/sdX# /mnt (replacing sdX# with the device you found)
[01:14] <sparkss> /bin/sh: bin/bash: not found
[01:14] <CrustyBarnacle> sparkss: can you read /etc/fstab? It contains the UUID of all your partitions.
[01:14] <scorinitron> How can I add more effects to compiz?
[01:14] <escott> CrustyBarnacle, he is in an initrd
[01:14] <escott> !ccsm | scorinitron
[01:15] <sparkss> escott when trying to mount to /mnt it saiys it failed : no such file or directory
[01:15] <CrustyBarnacle> escott: nothing mounted then... :-/
[01:15] <sparkss> hehe
[01:15] <escott> sparkss, you have to replace sdX# with whatever you determined from blkid
[01:15] <etteyafed> So I could use some help real quick if possible. Someone was attemtping (according to logs) to gain ssh access to my server(s) and then stopped suddenly but now seems to be hitting my DNS servers like crazy from all kinds of (spoofed) addresses. I think the hits are attack related since there are so many from the same IPs at once. So question is what now?
[01:15] <sparkss> I did escott
[01:15] <sparkss> im not that newbish..
[01:15] <sparkss> :P
[01:16] <sparkss> I did mount -o ro /dev/sdt1 /mnt
[01:16] <reisio> etteyafed: pat yourself on the back for having good passwords, install fail2ban
[01:16] <sparkss> mount: mounting /dev/sdt1 on /mnt failed: no such file or directory
[01:16] <JoshuaP> Hey, I'm having trouble here. When I open a eb browser, it freezes up and shuts out. Can I get help with this?
[01:16] <escott> sparkss, its possible /mnt doesnt exist. create it if it doesnt
[01:16] <reisio> JoshuaP: which web browser
[01:16] <sparkss> there we go
[01:16] <sparkss> its mounted, escott, where to go from here?
[01:16] <Aginor> etteyafed, have you heard of the ssh worms that try to bruteforce passwords?
[01:17] <escott> sparkss, now you can chroot /mnt /bin/bash
[01:17] <Captain_Crow> hello
[01:17] <reisio> hi
[01:17] <JoshuaP> reisio, any of them. Chrome, Chromium, Empathy, lynx, firefox, etc.
[01:17] <sparkss> escott now run fsck /dev/sdt1
[01:17] <sparkss> ?
[01:17] <escott> sparkss, yes
[01:17] <reisio> JoshuaP: lynx? :p
[01:17] <Captain_Crow> is ubuntu as good as windows if i use wine?
[01:17] <reisio> JoshuaP: perhaps you have filled up all your disks
[01:18] <JoshuaP> reisio, yes. It's a cmd-based browser.
[01:18] <sparkss> escott, no such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sdt1 possibly non-existent device?
[01:18] <Hilikus> how do i create a desktop icon?
[01:18] <reisio> Captain_Crow: Ubuntu can run many apps built only for win32 if you use Wine
[01:18] <JoshuaP> And no because Theres like 200gb left open.
[01:18] <etteyafed> reisio: I actually am using key only auth for ssh so im not very concerned with that. I really would like to prevent my DNS from being DDOSed from random machines
[01:18] <xangua> Captain_Crow: good for catching virus¿ :D sorr no :(
[01:18] <escott> sparkss, i thought you just said it was mounted?
[01:18] <sparkss> it is mounted
[01:19] <reisio> etteyafed: that's a difficult problem, you can really only deny based on frequency and origin
[01:19] <sparkss> and i can see the whole file system now in a ls -al
[01:19] <Captain_Crow> would wine run battlefield 3?
[01:19] <sparkss> after changing my bin/bash
[01:19] <xangua> !appdb | Captain_Crow
[01:19] <etteyafed> Aginor: Yeah the attempts were definately scripted but I also see evidence of a more targeted attack. Like DDOS activity
[01:19] <reisio> Captain_Crow: no: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=13626
[01:19] <Captain_Crow> ok
[01:20] <Aginor> etteyafed, http://isc.sans.edu/port.html?port=22
[01:20] <reisio> Captain_Crow: a fair number of gamers who also like Linux dual boot, keeping Windows just for their games
[01:20] <escott> sparkss, how can it be mounted and fsck say the device doesnt exist?
[01:20] <Peti4> openvpn server anyone?
[01:20] <sparkss> don't ask me..
[01:20] <reisio> Peti4: what about it
[01:20] <sparkss> Im serious that it mounted
[01:20] <sparkss> im gonna boot into a live cd
[01:20] <sparkss> what should I do once im booted up? run a fsck, and then what?
[01:20] <reisio> JoshuaP: check df -h and df -i
[01:20] <Aginor> etteyafed, unless you're very special, your address probably just got targeted by a biggish botnet
[01:20] <Peti4> the client-to-client doesn't working
[01:21] <Peti4> and i don't know whats the problame
[01:21] <Aginor> etteyafed, make sure to secure your sshd, possibly firewall off parts of the world that should never connect to it anyway, only allow ssh v2, only allow keys, not passwords
[01:22] <JoshuaP> reisio, /dev/sda1            15007744  317367 14690377    3% /
[01:22] <escott> sparkss, depends on what the results of the fsck are
[01:22] <Aginor> etteyafed, and if they aren't already, secure your other daemons while you're at it
[01:22] <sparkss> escott, im gonna assume fsck is fine.. as the hard disk has been fine for ever now hehe
[01:23] <reisio> JoshuaP: too bad, that would've been a convenient explanation
[01:23] <escott> sparkss, then you need to check your dmesg output
[01:23] <etteyafed> Aginor: The attackers are certianly not after anything in particular but I would none the less like to protect myself ;) My sshd is pretty good although i could tighten up the fw a bit.
[01:23] <reisio> JoshuaP: there's little short of your whole system being totally insane that would make all of those programs fail
[01:23] <reisio> Peti4: what do you need help with
[01:23] <sparkss> escott what would have changed though.. all I did was upgrade lol
[01:23] <sparkss> thats what doesn't make sense
[01:23] <JoshuaP> reisi, and how would I fix that?
[01:24] <Aginor> etteyafed, there's unfortunately not much to do about the worms apart from trying to mitigate their impact
[01:24] <escott> sparkss, well considering that the upgrade changes every piece of software on the system what could change would be everything
[01:24] <JoshuaP> reisio, and how would I fix that?
[01:24] <Peti4> i test all config what i found but don't work
[01:24] <etteyafed> reisio: I would like to be able to block IPs that make alot of requests in a short period of time but only for a short time so that IPs dont get blocked perminantly
[01:25] <reisio> JoshuaP: run one from a terminal and read its output
[01:25] <sparkss> oh wow 11.10 looks completely different..
[01:25] <sparkss> now to find a terminal window...
[01:25] <JoshuaP> reisio, they all say Bus Error
[01:25] <escott> etteyafed, http://www.the-art-of-web.com/system/fail2ban/
[01:25] <reisio> JoshuaP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segmentation_fault#Bus_error
[01:25] <Aginor> etteyafed, do you really need to allow known bots to connect to your server though? :D
[01:26] <joeyeye> just upgraded to 11.10 and wireless is not working, please help !
[01:26] <Aginor> etteyafed, there's many scripts, escott's suggestion is one of many
[01:26] <sparkss> escott do you know where the terminal window is in 11.10?
[01:26] <JoshuaP> reisio, I can't open that because the browsers don't work remember?
[01:26] <reisio> JoshuaP: heh
[01:26] <xangua> sparkss: control+alt+t
[01:26] <sparkss> thx
[01:26] <sparkss> so now I need to mount this again
[01:27] <sparkss> although I can't even fdisk -l ....
[01:27] <escott> sparkss, you have to use blkid to determine what the device is and then fsck it
[01:27] <sparkss> escott, nothing is showing up in blkid or fdisk -l
[01:27] <sparkss> on this live cd...
[01:28] <escott> sparkss, you need to run sudo blkid as you arent root
[01:28] <sparkss> ahh thx
[01:28] <sparkss> fok ran it
[01:28] <rokr1> etteyafed for what services you are thinking to block IP
[01:28] <sparkss> escott, it came back as clean
[01:28] <sparkss> :P
[01:29] <sparkss> very very fast
[01:29] <reisio> JoshuaP: this persists over reboots?
[01:29] <JoshuaP> Yes.
[01:29] <JoshuaP> reisio, yes it does.
[01:30] <reisio> JoshuaP: does it happen from a liveCD?
[01:30] <etteyafed> Aginor: No I dont want to allow bots access, but I do not want to either have an unnessarily long fw ruleset nor a list of (old) IPs that gets stale and forgotten.
[01:30] <escott> sparkss, then you probably need to check the dmesg output during the failed boot and see if you can determine a cause
[01:30] <sparkss> escott I think I found out the issue.. I made a /temp dir on the live cd and then i cd'd into it and nano /etc/fstab, ntohing is coming up on fstab
[01:30] <sparkss> lol
[01:30] <rokr1> Ubuntu 11.10 with sluggish wayland GUI
[01:30] <etteyafed> rokr1: I am mostly concerned with DNS HTTP and IMAP+SMTP
[01:30] <Santiago74> have problem with pam and login
[01:30] <reisio> Peti4: yes I can
[01:31] <sparkss> oh wait nvm
[01:31] <sparkss> escott i checked the wrong fstab lol
[01:31] <JoshuaP> reisio, no. Well I don't know I don't have one.
[01:31] <reisio> JoshuaP: what if you tell lynx to open a .html file on your hard disk
[01:31] <sparkss> escott im in the correct fstab now and I do not see my auto mount for my fily system?
[01:31] <reisio> Peti4: I don't know what you want
[01:32] <sparkss> oh nvm I do
[01:32] <sparkss> I keep getting ahead of myself..
[01:32] <JoshuaP> reisio, they won't start up. None of them. Not even lynx.
[01:32] <usr13> JoshuaP: df -i
[01:32] <JoshuaP> usr13, /dev/sda1            15007744  317367 14690377    3% /
[01:32] <rokr1> etteyafed, attacks are common, best way is to run DNS in chroot
[01:33] <usr13> JoshuaP: Is that from   df -i   ?
[01:33] <JoshuaP> usr13, yes.
[01:33] <rokr1> use modsecurity on HTTP websites
[01:33] <etteyafed> rokr1: Aginor: It looks like I could prob write something that would do what fail2ban does for auth for DNS based on dnstop
[01:33] <usr13> JoshuaP: Ok, just checcking.
[01:33] <sparkss> escott, the only errors I see in dmsg is end_request: I/O error, dev fd0 logical block 0
[01:33] <usr13> JoshuaP: What does   df   say?
[01:33] <sparkss> It spammed that a few times, passed it and went to eth1 link's etc
[01:33] <escott> sparkss, dmesg in the livecd?
[01:34] <JoshuaP> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[01:34] <JoshuaP> /dev/sda1            236238592  14586580 209651708   7% /
[01:34] <JoshuaP> udev                   2054364         4   2054360   1% /dev
[01:34] <JoshuaP> tmpfs                   824488      1216    823272   1% /run
[01:34] <JoshuaP> none                      5120         4      5116   1% /run/lock
[01:34] <FloodBot1> JoshuaP: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:34] <JoshuaP> none                   2061212       748   2060464   1% /run/shm
[01:34] <reisio> heh
[01:34] <sparkss> this is the dmesg on my mounted partition
[01:34] <sparkss> from my actual o/s
[01:34] <sparkss> hrmph
[01:34] <sparkss> wait a sec
[01:34] <sparkss> logrotate
[01:34] <reisio> JoshuaP: I s'pose you could try reinstalling zlib and openssl
[01:34] <usr13> JoshuaP: Use pastebin  i.e.  df -i  | pastebinit    and   df | pastebinit
[01:35] <sparkss> the only thing I see odd in my dmesg is ext3_orphan_cleanup: deleting unreferenced inode
[01:35] <sparkss> see that quite a few times
[01:35] <escott> sparkss, so thats an fsck failure message
[01:36] <escott> sparkss, probably coming from a journal replay
[01:36] <JoshuaP> usr13, http://paste.ubuntu.com/752097/
[01:36] <sparkss> escott, right after that it says 583 orphan inodes deleted
[01:36] <sparkss> ext3-fs recovery complete
[01:36] <sparkss> ext3-fs mounted filesystem with ordered data mode
[01:36] <joeyeye> how do I witch from using wicd to networkmanager ?
[01:36] <sparkss> etc
[01:37] <sparkss> so is that whats causing my issue u think escott?
[01:37] <Aginor> etteyafed, someone's probably done it already if you google around a bit
[01:37] <escott> sparkss, it could be
[01:37] <xangua> install network-manager and network-manager-gnome from the ubuntu cd
[01:37] <xangua> joeyeye:
[01:37] <Aginor> etteyafed, I have managed to stop doing sysadmin myself so I am quite happily unaware of what's considered the best one at the moment
[01:37] <sparkss> escott, what would you suggest moving forward frfom here?
[01:38] <joeyeye> yes, xangua ?
[01:38] <phong_> hi guys, why i can't install ubuntu with wubi
[01:38] <phong_> it said:  There is no disk in the drive .   Please insert a disk into  drive
[01:38] <escott> sparkss, has everything been fscked? did you get a clean shutdown?
[01:38] <phong_> is help on the way?
[01:38] <Santiago74> how to uninstall libpam?
[01:39] <phong_> the pyrun.exe error
[01:39] <phong_> pyrun.exe - No Disk
[01:39] <aeon-ltd> Santiago74: does 'sudo apt-get remove libpam' not work?
[01:39] <sparkss> It just showed
[01:39] <sparkss> /dev/sdt1: clean, xxx/xxx files, xxx/xxx blocks
[01:39] <sparkss> replace xxx with actual numbers
[01:39] <sparkss> hehe
[01:40] <sparkss> then put me back in the ssh prompt and thats it
[01:40] <Santiago74> I can not log in as root because it takes the pam
[01:41] <escott> Santiago74, without libpam not much will work
[01:42] <genoobie> escott any tips on mounting an SMB share?
[01:42] <etteyafed> Aginor: I think chroot will have to be good enough for now because I dont currently have time to play with dnstop source. I don't think anyone has anything like what i have in mind that is freely available because its kindof an odd idea. I was thinking that I could use the dns accounting code in dnstop to write a little program that would block IPs in the fw conf and unblock after some time passes.
[01:42] <joeyeye> Ijust upgraded from 10.10 to 11.10 and wireless is not working. How do I switch from using wicd to networkmanager ?
[01:42] <Santiago74> install it in half
[01:42] <escott> genoobie, no
[01:43] <etteyafed> reisio: (or anyone) Is LXC now an accaptable substitute for chroot in 11.10?
[01:43] <Santiago74> when I start not let me enter the password
[01:43] <sparkss> guess ill give up for tonight hehe
[01:43] <xangua> joeyeye: (19:37:39) xangua: install network-manager and network-manager-gnome from the ubuntu cd
[01:44] <escott> sparkss, you might want to save your dmesg output to a drive and then you can !paste it here so others can view it
[01:45] <CrustyBarnacle> sparkss: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[01:45] <joeyeye> xangua, how do I do that ? I have a netbook (no CD)
[01:45] <sparkss> ok
[01:46] <xangua> you can get the packages from
[01:46] <xangua> http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[01:46] <xangua> joeyeye:
[01:46] <Santiago74> I have the user, but the log says "failed to authentication"
[01:46] <Santiago74> and I want to disable pam
[01:47] <Santiago74> that problem,,, :(
[01:48] <etteyafed> reisio: I was thinking that LXC would be better than chroot since it allows a more robust container but I wasnt sure if there were overhead or security issues that I hadn't heard about.
[01:49] <JoshuaP> reisio, reinstalling...
[01:49] <zykotick9> Santiago74, are you trying to log into GDM as root?
[01:49] <symptom> which flash plugin should I be using for firefox?
[01:50] <sparkss> escott isnt there a o/s repair or recovery mode that I can do?
[01:50] <xangua> symptom: wich one¿ the one you want, but just one ;)
[01:50] <Santiago74> entered the recovery mode, but do not take me let me log in as root
[01:51] <JoshuaP> reisio, reinstalled.
[01:51] <zykotick9> !noroot | Santiago74
[01:52] <Santiago74> ok ubottu
[01:53] <c3ll_> hey whats up
[01:53] <MK`> I keep getting an error: after I download a file in firefox/chromium, if I try to open it from inside the Download window, it says "location is not a folder" and doesn't let me open it. I need to manually navigate to the containing folder to open the file. Any ideas why? It is the same for every file type
[01:54] <sparkss> hmmmm
[01:54] <sparkss> how do I dump this dmesg or copy all of it from the log file?
[01:55] <usr13> MK`: What window manager are you using?
[01:55] <almoxarife> MK`: where do the files wind up? specific
[01:56] <Eredien> Hi there. Is this a good channel to ask about a grub rescue prompt at startup?
[01:56] <sparkss> I got it
[01:56] <aeon-ltd> Eredien: using ubuntu? then here's fine
[01:56] <aeon-ltd> Eredien: or #grub
[01:57] <Eredien> Yup, ubuntu
[01:57] <usr13> MK`:  Are they going to ~/Downloads ?
[01:57] <sparkss> escott, paste.ubuntu.com/752114
[01:57] <MK`> usr13: Nautilus, and no, a different folder I specify
[01:58] <sparkss> I do have 3 mdadm raid array's but like i said, none are on the file system escott
[01:58] <usr13> MK`: So whitch folder are you specifying ?
[01:58] <MK`> almoxarife: It's always a different folder of course, I don't like letting things pile up in ~/Downloads.
[01:58] <almoxarife> MK`: this folder you specify is outside your home folder?
[01:58] <usr13> MK`: What version of FF?
[01:59] <MK`> almoxarife: No, it's in my home directory. usr13: The most current versions of firefox and chromium in the repositories
[01:59] <ShadesEdge> Hello, when I install Ubuntu 11.10 with the minimal CD, it freezes when downloading packages. Any ideas? My internet is fully working
[01:59] <JoshuaP> usr13, [3:3:4463465118:ERROR:nss_util.cc(397)] Error initializing NSS without a persistent database: libsoftokn3.so: cannot open shared object file: Permission Denied
[01:59] <usr13> MK`: Well, I don't think any of us are familiar with an issue like this.
[01:59] <axta> I missed up with compiz-config and now ubuntu fails on login with any user but root. any help please ?
[01:59] <JoshuaP> usr13, what do you suppose I do with that?
[02:00] <MK`> user13: For example I just saved Google's logo, and get this error: "Could not display "/home/name/Downloads/ssl_logo.png" The location is not a folder.".
[02:00] <Jordan_U> axta: You should never log in as root.
[02:00] <axta> Jordan_U I know, but it fails to login any other user, even a Fresh one.
[02:00] <axta> any idea how can I help this ?
[02:01] <axta> the ./.Xauth... didn't work for me.
[02:01] <Jordan_U> axta: Have you tried loading a failsafe GNOME session from the sessions drop down in the login screen?
[02:01] <usr13> JoshuaP: sudo find / -name libsoftokn3.so -type f
[02:01] <Santiago74> bye :)
[02:01] <ShadesEdge> Hello, when I install Ubuntu 11.10 with the minimal CD, it freezes when downloading packages. Any ideas? My internet is fully working
[02:02] <jrib> ShadesEdge: checksum the cd
[02:02] <sparkss> escott, paste.ubuntu.com/752114 when you get a chance :/
[02:02] <usr13> JoshuaP: sudo find / -name libsoftokn3.so -type f |pastebinit   #And send resulting URL to us here
[02:02] <JoshuaP> usr13, 3 results.
[02:02] <iuriguilherme> MK`: you are trying to open the file from the firefox download window?
[02:02] <Eredien> I'm running an eee 900A; when I turn it on instead of getting an ubuntu logon screen, I get the following error: error: bad filename. grub rescue>
[02:02] <JoshuaP> http://paste.ubuntu.com/752116/
[02:03] <MK`> iuriguilherme: Yes, or Chromium's little 'download complete' bar.
[02:03] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | Eredien
[02:03] <Eredien> Thanks Jordan_u and ubotto, will try and report back
[02:03] <iuriguilherme> MK`: well you have to make sure if the command the browsers are using is set properly
[02:03] <iuriguilherme> MK`: maybe they are not
[02:03] <almoxarife> MK`: did you install 'exo' ?
[02:03] <almoxarife> !info exo
[02:04] <c3ll_> win 2
[02:04] <MK`> How do I check which packages I have installed again?
[02:05] <JoshuaP> usr13,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/752116/
[02:05] <Eredien> Jordan_U, Ubotto: that won't work for me, as I can't boot into my install. I have a usb stick with ubuntu on it (eee netbooks don't have CD drives so can't do a live cd) but can't figure out how to boot from the usb stick
[02:05] <iuriguilherme> MK`: you may configure that in the applications preferences of the browser... or not
[02:06] <almoxarife> !info exo-utils
[02:06] <milamber> Eredien: try hitting escape when it boots
[02:06] <MK`> I do have exo-utils, yes.
[02:06] <milamber> Eredien: assuming you have made the appropriate changes in the bios
[02:06] <usr13> JoshuaP: And  you are in fact using firefox-8.0 ?
[02:07] <JoshuaP> usr13, I got the error trying to startup chromium-browser.
[02:07] <iuriguilherme> MK`: for example, you could change the nautilus default command to nautilus --browser for example
[02:07] <clone1018> good god anyone know how to push a currently running command into a screen session?
[02:07] <MK`> How do I do that then iuriguilherme ?
[02:08] <iuriguilherme> MK`: for example, if you are trying to open a png file you should be using something like eye of the gnome instead of nautilus
[02:08] <usr13> JoshuaP: Does Firefox run?
[02:08] <almoxarife> MK`: try un-installing exo-utils, if it tells you the system will also be uninstalled then nevermind don't do it
[02:08] <iuriguilherme> MK`: you can't open a google logo as a directory
[02:08] <JoshuaP> usr13, no. It fails to respond.
[02:08] <usr13> JoshuaP: Same error?
[02:08] <MK`> the little popup error window had Nautilus's icon
[02:08] <iuriguilherme> MK`: there must be a preference in firefox or chromium for that
[02:09] <usr13> JoshuaP: sudo find / -name nss -type d |pastebinit  #And send resulting URL
[02:10] <Eredien> Okay, now I can boot into the usb stick and reinstall ubuntu, thanks all
[02:10] <JoshuaP> http://paste.ubuntu.com/752120/
[02:10] <JoshuaP> usr13,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/752120/
[02:11] <MK`> Ah, so it is exo-utils causing the problem. Probably because I have xfce installed
[02:11] <almoxarife> MK`: yeap
[02:11] <MK`> in addition to gnome, I mean.
[02:11] <almoxarife> MK`: yeap
[02:12] <almoxarife> MK`: thank the arch-linux people, they figured it out
[02:12] <cntrational> when I unplug my headphones, I don't get sound unless I go to the sound settings and change the output to speakers, and vice versa when I plug the headphones in. How do I fix this?
[02:12] <reisio> JoshuaP: so the error changed?
[02:12] <MK`> Heh. Seems I need to remove half of xfce! Good thing I don't use it :p
[02:12] <reisio> etteyafed: #lxcontainers
[02:13] <JoshuaP> reisio, idk it doesn't show me upon pastebinit
[02:13] <reisio> JoshuaP: hrmm?
[02:14] <reisio> JoshuaP: it they're still closing instantly or they aren't, which is it
[02:14] <JoshuaP> reisio, it does shut out instantly.
[02:15] <reisio> so no change
[02:15] <ayrton_> can someone help me compile mesa please!!!
[02:15] <JoshuaP> reisi, no.
[02:15] <tripelb> hello. I am in webchat now. I have only used 10.04 not 11.04 and I want to go to Places, Computer. How do I do that?... ok home network. Is that the same?
[02:15] <ayrton_> i downloaded it , cd into the fine ./configure give me no command and make gives me do ./configure first
[02:15] <MK`> Haha, It's like, "I need to remove thunar and xfce4-utils etc" and I said yes, and it removes pretty much everything in xubuntu-desktop that isn't also installed with ubuntu-desktop
[02:16] <MK`> Now it all works fine. thanks guys
[02:17] <MK`> And now the lingering "opening" dialog in the taskbar bug I've had for months is gone!
[02:17] <ayrton_> i need help, i downloaded mesa 7.11 now i need to compile it how do i?
[02:18] <Jedi_048> Hello, good day to all
[02:18] <tripelb> what can I do to get a sudo level access IN GUI to the external hard drive to read and write on it?
[02:19] <ayrton_> can someone help me compile mesa please
[02:19] <Jedi_048> can anyone help me how to install guest operating system in ubuntu server 10.10?
[02:19] <iuriguilherme> tripelb: that's not the best way to do it, but if you want to do it anyways you can type sudo nautilus in the terminal
[02:19] <tripelb> what can I do to get a sudo level access IN GUI to the external hard drive to read and write on it? I know gkedit but I dont know what to do for a web browser. I want to move files.
[02:19] <King_John> What is the best way to run a command as a service?
[02:19] <tripelb> luriguilherme OK tell me a better way to do it. (comment just above too)
[02:20] <iuriguilherme> tripelb: well you could mount the hard drive as a regular user and do file operations without sudo access
[02:20] <almoxarife> iuriguilherme: gksu nautilus <-- better choice
[02:20] <ayrton_> can someone tell me how to compile mesa
[02:21] <usr13> JoshuaP: firefox 2> error.txt |pastebinit error.txt
[02:21] <iuriguilherme> almoxarife: well it depends but i forgot that this was the ubuntu channel
[02:21] <reisio> King_John: make an init script for it
[02:21] <Hilikus> how do i change my screensaver? i don't see a setting for it
[02:21] <almoxarife> ayrton_: why are you compiling rather than installing the package?
[02:21] <iuriguilherme> almoxarife: that better for his case indeed
[02:21] <ayrton_> i cant find a package for 7.11 if u do please do tell
[02:21] <ayrton_> almoxarife
[02:21] <usr13> JoshuaP: and send us URL
[02:22] <almoxarife> iuriguilherme: I have never seen the worse case scenario of not using gksu, I assume there is one
[02:22] <JoshuaP> usr13, You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[02:22] <JoshuaP> usr13, and firefx tries to start.
[02:22] <almoxarife> ayrton_: why are you compiling rather than installing the package?
[02:22] <usr13> JoshuaP: It tries?
[02:22] <iuriguilherme> almoxarife: the case that sudo is better is wheen you don't have enough gtk stuff installed, but it is not his case
[02:22] <ayrton_> almoxarife i just said i cant find the package
[02:22] <Eredien> When installing ubuntu off the usb stick, network autoconfiguration fails, claiming the network doesn't use the DHCP protocol, but I'm copnnected right now via wireless using DHCP, can I figure out what my eee's ip address is if I have the ip address of the computer I'm currently on?
[02:23] <usr13> JoshuaP: Run ff or what ever from a terminal and paste for us the errors you get from terminal.
[02:23] <iuriguilherme> Eredien: if your wireless connection is under ubuntu you can do ifconfig -a
[02:24] <tripelb> hi lu.....hermes  I got bumped from the webchat. Maybe my hand touched the touchpad.
[02:24] <JoshuaP> usr13, nothing happened.\
[02:24] <usr13> JoshuaP: firefox 2> error.txt ; pastebinit error.txt
[02:24] <tripelb> This was about how do I sign in as a regular user on the external USB drive with my account on it.
[02:25] <almoxarife> ayrton_: what can't you find?
[02:25] <usr13> JoshuaP: lynx 2> error.txt ; pastebinit error.txt
[02:25] <usr13> Show us
[02:26] <ayrton_> almoxarife i cant find the mesa 7.11 package like .deb
[02:26] <JoshuaP> usr13, nothing happens..
[02:26] <ayrton_> only thing i can find is one that has to be compiled
[02:26] <Glifdoro> Quick question - I'm running apache on Ubuntu and I have a Wordpress directory with some PHP files. When I go to configure my Wordpress blog, I get the PHP in plaintext from the server rather than the results of the PHP file. Any idea what could be wrong? I tried to use the ExecCGI (or whatever it is) in the sites-enabled/ but that didn't seem to solve it. Permissions are OK.
[02:26] <Jedi_0481> hello to all
[02:27] <ayrton_> hi
[02:27] <reisio> Glifdoro: did you install mod_php ?
[02:27] <usr13> JoshuaP: Well, so far, I found this:   http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=91962
[02:27] <tripelb> I have a hard drive I want to write on. I'm on a computer on a liveCD and I want to back it up onto the ubuntu drive. I dont see the Mac drive. What do I do?
[02:27] <usr13> JoshuaP: and  http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=96026
[02:27] <reisio> Glifdoro: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Installing_PHP_5
[02:28] <Glifdoro> reisio: how can i tell? i tried apt-get install mod_php but it couldn't find the package.
[02:28] <reisio> tripelb: might be missing HFS/+ support in your kernel
[02:28] <Glifdoro> reisio thanks i'll check it out now
[02:28] <Eredien> usb stick install is asking me for a hostname, but honestly we don
[02:28] <almoxarife> ayrton_: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+package/libegl1-mesa <-- this help?
[02:28] <Eredien> 't don't have one, AFAIK
[02:28] <machiolate> anyone happen to know how to adjust CPU fan speed via the terminal/command line?
[02:29] <usr13> JoshuaP: and  http://askubuntu.com/questions/75807/chromium-webbrowser-freezes-when-start-errornss-util-cc397
[02:29] <Glifdoro> reisio: yeah it says "Module php5 already enabled" when I sudo a2enmod php5
[02:29] <usr13> Eredien: make one up.
[02:29] <iuriguilherme> Eredien: you don't need this
[02:29] <iuriguilherme> Eredien: if you don't know what is this you may leave it blank
[02:30] <usr13> Eredien: Asking for a hostname for what?
[02:30] <ayrton_> what package do i pick almoxarife i have ubuntu 11.04 64bit intel
[02:30] <iuriguilherme> Eredien: unless you have to configure a network
[02:30] <Eredien> iuriguilherme: left it blank but usb stick install said it was't a valid hostname.
[02:30] <Eredien> I do have to configure a network, to get to the mirror
[02:30] <Eredien> usr13: I think it means a LAN but we don't have one, just a cable wireless connection like normal
[02:30] <iuriguilherme> Eredien: it is not related to external network
[02:30] <almoxarife> Eredien: hostname is the name of the machine, creat one!
[02:30] <usr13> Eredien: If it is asking for a hostname to set for the system, just make one up, like maybe the name of the computer. i.e  dell-desktop  or...
[02:31] <usr13> Eredien: You have a LAN
[02:31] <usr13> Eredien: The wireless network is a LAN
[02:31] <Eredien> usr13: ie wireless LAN
[02:31] <tripelb> OK I found the source disk and the terminal disk. I want to make a directory on the terminal disk or whatever it's called. It's an Ubuntu partition. So how do I get permission to write on the drive in GUI? Is there a way I can login on that drive?
[02:31] <usr13> Eredien: LAN just means Local Area Network
[02:31] <reisio> tripelb: actually sorry if you don't see the drive you're missing the controller, not the FS support
[02:32] <iuriguilherme> Oh well, i thought Ubuntu did set the hostname to 'ubuntu' by default
[02:32] <JoshuaP> usr13, ykw I'll just go home and reload Ubuntu..
[02:32] <usr13> Eredien: So just make up a name.  A name you want this computer to be identified as.
[02:32] <tripelb> can I see this Empathy thing NOT with little iphone type bubbles but more like a normal IRC client?
[02:32] <iuriguilherme> if it doesn't well then you have to make one up
[02:32] <JoshuaP> This is too complicated and I can't open any links..
[02:32] <ayrton_> do i pick i386 for a 64bit system?
[02:32] <usr13> JoshuaP: How about lynx ?
[02:32] <usr13> JoshuaP: lynx av.com
[02:32] <almoxarife> ayrton_: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+package/libegl1-mesa
[02:33] <Jedi_048> Guys I need to install guest operating system in ubuntu server 10.10....
[02:33] <Eredien> usr13: then I have no idea why manual network configuration here isn't working, as I've typed in the IP address, the subnet mask, the gateway, and then used ubuntu as the hostname...but then it asks for a doman name...i guess I will just try to make something up there too.
[02:33] <Jedi_048> can anyone help me?
[02:33] <almoxarife> ayrton_: no, you would pick a amd64
[02:33] <reisio> tripelb: yes but I don't know the specifics of that configuration
[02:33] <Hyp3ri0n> hi everyone
[02:33] <reisio> tripelb: what're you trying to do with your disks, again?
[02:33] <Guest85160> is there a terminal command to reset gnome3, or can i just rename the gnome3 profile folder an restart?
[02:33] <iuriguilherme> Jedi_048: what do you need
[02:33] <tripelb> just NAME your computer "RandomSelection"
[02:33] <ayrton_> k thank your
[02:33] <reisio> Guest85160: probably work
[02:33] <usr13> JoshuaP: Put in the CD and do install as you normally would.  (You have vbox installed, right?)
[02:33] <ayrton_> btw almoxarife theres no 7.11 in that link ^.^
[02:34] <Guest85160> raname the gnome3 profile folder?
[02:34] <iuriguilherme> Eredien: domain name you really don't need
[02:34] <Eredien> ok, it says you can just make something up
[02:34] <iuriguilherme> Eredien: yes but this one you may leave blank
[02:34] <tripelb>  reisio it would really help if I could get lines on irc and not these bubbles like chat,
[02:34]  * reisio headdesks
[02:35] <almoxarife> ayrton_: alrighty then, compile away
[02:35] <reisio> tripelb: close it, sudo apt-get install irssi and use that from a terminal
[02:35] <reisio> tripelb: /connect irc.freenode.net
[02:35] <reisio> tripelb: /join #ubuntu
[02:35] <ayrton_> lol
[02:35]  * iuriguilherme agrees with reisio
[02:35] <observation> How do I determine my IP address in Ubuntu?
[02:35] <reisio> observation: ifconfig
[02:35] <iuriguilherme> observation: /etc/network/interfaces
[02:35] <iuriguilherme> both ways do work
[02:35] <reisio> or curl -s tnx.nl/ip for external
[02:35] <observation> thanks again reisio :)
[02:36] <blind> Hi, my monitor goes to 1280x1024 when using Windows, but Ubuntu only goes up to 1024x768 - how can I remedy this?
[02:36] <nevyn> iuriguilherme: no they don't.
[02:36] <reisio> blind: what's your graphics device?
[02:36] <observation> thanks iuriguilherme
[02:36] <iuriguilherme> nevyn: what does not work?
[02:36] <nevyn> iuriguilherme: if your ip address is set by dhcp you won't find any sign of it in /etc/network/interfaces
[02:36] <tripelb> reisio, I am on a macbook with liveCD (finally works this time) and I have an Ubuntu partition on a SATA drive (USB connected).  The mac is sweet, only 72GB in the HD and the external one is 1T. My aim is to back up the Macbook. "almost" everything is on the desktop. I just want to make a folder on the HD=USB and then drag the Mac desktop onto it.
[02:36] <blind> intel 945GM
[02:37] <usr13> Jedi_048: !virtualbox
[02:37] <usr13> Jedi_048: Put in the CD and do install as you normally would.  (You have vbox installed, right?)
[02:37] <iuriguilherme> nevyn: if your ip is set by dhcp it is because /etc/network/interfaces is telling the network card to set it by dhcp
[02:37] <reisio> tripelb: please don't do that :p
[02:37] <usr13>  !virtualbox | Jedi_048
[02:37] <reisio> tripelb: use rsync -av /mnt/path/to/mac/ /mnt/path/to/usb/optionaldir
[02:37] <iuriguilherme> nevyn: unless you are not in Ubuntu
[02:38] <Hyp3ri0n> the power of vb is extremely impressive
[02:38] <usr13> JoshuaP: What does   lynx av.com    do?
[02:38] <reisio> usr13: that looks outdated, FYI
[02:38] <nevyn> iuriguilherme: that's also incorrect as ubuntu uses network manager so all sorts of things could be going on.
[02:38] <usr13> reisio: What is outdated?
[02:38] <Jedi_048> Guys I need to install a guest operating system on ubuntu server 10.10, can anyone help me?
[02:39] <nevyn> the two ways to find out your current ip address are ifconfig as suggested by reisio or ip addr
[02:39] <reisio> usr13: they changed from non-free and -ose to all ose with optional non-free extensions
[02:39] <usr13> reisio: Oh, I see..
[02:39] <blind> reisio, It's an integrated card - intel 945GM
[02:39] <reisio> usr13: just saying, if you know how to alter the bot factoids, I do not
[02:39] <iuriguilherme> nevyn: if your ip is set by dhcp in Ubuntu there is a 99% chance of you having 'auto eth0; iface eth0 inet dhcp' in your /etc/network/interfaces file
[02:39] <usr13> reisio: I don't wither
[02:39] <nevyn> or you could click on the network icon and view settings... somewhere in nm-applet but that's more challenging to describe.
[02:39] <usr13> either
[02:39] <iuriguilherme> or something similar
[02:40] <nevyn> iuriguilherme: the question was not how do I find out if I' m using dhcp
[02:40] <nevyn> the question was how do I find my ip address.
[02:40] <iuriguilherme> nevyn: but it does involve that, because if i is set automatically then you must switch to manual mode
[02:41] <nevyn> wtf?
[02:41] <iuriguilherme> nevyn: for example you could change inet dhcp to inet static in that file
[02:41] <iuriguilherme> nevyn: and then set the address manually
[02:41] <ruser> i require help getting my windows to boot.  I have an ubuntu laptop whcih used to be dual boot win xp and ubuntu, i borked the paritions, now i recovered it but i can't seem to boot into windows. grub is giving me invalid device requested.  what do i need to do to the partition to make it boot windows?
[02:41] <iuriguilherme> or by typing it in some gui app in the panel
[02:41] <iuriguilherme> or using ifconfig
[02:41] <usr13> reisio: Actually, I think it's probably best to just get it from virtualbox.org
[02:41] <iuriguilherme> both ways do work
[02:41] <ksx4system> any ideas how hard it'll be to boot from an ISO file using GRUB included with Ubuntu?
[02:42] <reisio> usr13: ew
[02:42] <usr13> why>?
[02:42] <reisio> usr13: going to random websites to fetch software, it's so... Windowsy and needless
[02:42] <ksx4system> I need to add two different LiveCDs as my boot options (and no, I can't use bare CDs since it's a netbook and I don't have USB CD/DVD drive)
[02:43] <reisio> ksx4system: I know you can do it
[02:43] <ayrton_> almoxarife i got the .deb package from your link and when i try to install it wont let me press the install butten in the software center
[02:43] <reisio> ksx4system: I assume there are decent howtos
[02:43] <ruser> ksx4system: mount the isos?
[02:43] <iuriguilherme> ksx4system: well you may use usb drives instead of cds
[02:44] <iuriguilherme> ksx4system: but making grub booting isos is easier if you extract the files
[02:44] <almoxarife> ayrton_: got the deb? you did what? dowload?
[02:44] <ayrton_> yes
[02:44] <ayrton_> almoxarife
[02:44] <usr13> reisio: Not really.  https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[02:44] <iuriguilherme> ksx4system: there may be good tips at pendrivelinux.com
[02:45] <reisio> usr13: not really what?
[02:45] <reisio> sudo apt-get install virtualbox, done
[02:45] <ksx4system> reisio: erm... one more time 'cause you've missed the point
[02:45] <almoxarife> ayrton_: I don't use software center, so I am useless as to why it would or would not allow something to happen, you might want to install gdebi, simpler and no overhead for local installs
[02:46] <ksx4system> I need to boot the *hardware* (yes, netbook itself - not a VM) from the iso using GRUB
[02:46] <reisio> ksx4system: vm stuff wasn't to you, did you see your name? :p
[02:46] <ksx4system> reisio: omg fail... :D
[02:47]  * ksx4system should get some sleep or something
[02:47] <ubuntunewbie> hello all. crazy question: it is possible/wise to be running in LiveCD mode (on usb drive) to build *another* LiveCD on a 2nd usb drive?
[02:47] <reisio> ksx4system: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22grub2%22%20%22boot%20iso%22 go forth
[02:47] <usr13> reisio: Well, yea, your right.
[02:47] <ruser> i require help getting my windows to boot.  I have an ubuntu laptop whcih used to be dual boot win xp and ubuntu, i borked the paritions, now i recovered it but i can't seem to boot into windows. grub is giving me invalid device requested.  what do i need to do to the partition to make it boot windows?
[02:47] <reisio> ubuntunewbie: if you've got the space, I don't see a problem
[02:47] <PacketPenguin> I have the most current ipod touch with the firmware it 5. ssomething.  Is there any program that will write to it like itunes, I know that older ipods work w/ rythmnbox and amorok, but have heard current firmware prevent not using itunes. Is this true or does someone out there do already what I am asking and if so, what program?
[02:48] <usr13> ruser: Which partition is it?
[02:48] <ubuntunewbie> reisio: 4GB thumbdrive is the active LiveCD image. enough space to write to 2nd 4gb drive?
[02:48] <usr13> ruser: /dev/???
[02:48] <ksx4system> reisio: not funny, I should write a script which sends pm "stfu right now!" to people tellin' me to google something
[02:48] <reisio> ubuntunewbie: just depends on what you're doing, it might be
[02:48] <reisio> ksx4system: but I didn't tell you to google something
[02:49] <reisio> in fact I all but wiped your butt for you :D
[02:49] <reisio> you are welcome
[02:49] <ubuntunewbie> reisio: fair enough. I found what looks to be a good walkthru online for building a custom live CD. I'll give it a whirl. figured I'd ask the chatroom first to make sure no one tells me to back slowly away from the keyboard
[02:49] <ruser> usr13: NTFS? /dev/sda7 iirc
[02:49] <Guest85160> theres a way to fix this E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the download directory
[02:50] <usr13> ruser: So your MS Windows install is on /dev/sda7 ?
[02:50] <ayrton_> almoxarife i get Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libegl1-mesa (= 7.11-0ubuntu3) when trying to install the package with gdebi
[02:50] <reisio> ubuntunewbie: it's possible the howto assumes you are using an installed environtment, that could get you into trouble
[02:50] <usr13> ruser: Is that correct?
[02:50] <reisio> ubuntunewbie: possibly not, however
[02:50] <ksx4system> reisio: oh, really? go and read your last message including link to something in google.com domain :P
[02:50] <somsip> Guest85160: run the same command with 'sudo' at the start
[02:50] <reisio> ksx4system: I don't see me saying for you to google anything in that message
[02:51] <ubuntunewbie> reisio: by reading the walkthru, it implicitly assumes you're running an installed environment. not sure if anyone has written a walkthru for LiveCD-to-LiveCD
[02:51] <usr13> ruser: What does  "iirc"  mean?
[02:51] <ruser> usr13:  if i recall correctly
[02:51] <ruser> usr13:  i'm validating this right now
[02:51] <almoxarife> ayrton_: I remember you telling me there was no 7.11 for natty, yet there you are with a 7.11, which came from? oneric?
[02:51] <reisio> ubuntunewbie: not sure why someone would :)
[02:51] <usr13> reisio:  sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit   #And send resulting URL
[02:52] <reisio> ruser: ^
[02:52] <ubuntunewbie> reisio: it's a long story. trying to rescue parent's computer. I had an old live cd (8.04) that I used to build a 10.04 live USB
[02:52] <usr13> ruser: sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit   #And send resulting URL
[02:52] <ruser> usr13: it's on sda6
[02:52] <blind> Hi, my monitor goes to 1280x1024 when using Windows, but Ubuntu only goes up to 1024x768 - how can I remedy this? using an integrated intel 945GM
[02:52] <reisio> ubuntunewbie: you can't just image a new one?
[02:52] <ruser> usr13: i was just booting into laptop to validate
[02:53] <ayrton_> ah ok i see it its no for 11.04
[02:53] <ubuntunewbie> reisio: now I'm running from the live USB and trying to build them a "long-term" liveUSB to run. their Win machine is hosed, but I can't wipe the hard drive
[02:53] <PacketPenguin> current ipod writable in 11.10 people?
[02:53] <KM0201> ubuntulog: so partition the drive and dual boot it?
[02:54] <Jedi_0481> Guys can you help me to install guest operating system in ubuntu server 10.10?
[02:54] <ayrton_> back to compiling i guess almoxarife
[02:54] <reisio> ubuntunewbie: ah
[02:54] <ubuntunewbie> reisio: in a perfect world, I'll end up with a custom live USB they can run. I'm running the factory live USB that wants to try/install & doesn't have flash yadda yadda
[02:54] <reisio> ubuntunewbie: can't you just get a new hard drive?
[02:54] <KM0201> Jedi_0481: what do you mean "a guest operating system in ubuntu server"
[02:54] <c3ll> jedi what kind of server are you trying to install?
[02:54] <c3ll> woops, totally misread that
[02:55] <ruser> usr13: http://nopaste.info/6daa9fd36b.html
[02:55] <ayrton_> and back to figure out how to compile it !!! grr
[02:55] <ubuntunewbie> reisio: I may end up doing that & putting the old one in an external bay .I want them using ubuntu to read into the old drive and get what they need. can't just wipe it, but Win7 is h.o.s.e.d on that drive
[02:55] <ayrton_> almoxarife
[02:55] <ruser> usr13: as i was saying sda6
[02:56] <reisio> ubuntunewbie: right
[02:56] <ubuntunewbie> reisio: they insist on long-term read only access to the old drive. so a wipe isn't an option, but I don't want any windows system ever touching it again b/c it is crawling w/ something nasty
[02:56] <reisio> ubuntunewbie: can't help but think your time would be better spent getting another hard drive, for the interim or not
[02:56] <reisio> so don't hook it up to a windows system
[02:57] <ubuntunewbie> reisio: arg. I suspected as much. I'm not a command line guru at all. i have my naive faith in ubuntu, but have never really looked under the hood or hacked around. I guess I was hoping for "liveUSB to liveUSB... just download the savetheday package and it does it for you"   :)
[02:57] <usr13> ruser: So, how did it get on sda6 ?
[02:58] <Jedi_0481> please add me as a buddy, I am now ready to install guest operating...but I don't know how to do it...
[02:58] <usr13> ruser: Looks to me like you've saddled a dead horse.
[02:58] <ruser> usr13: i intalled it there 3 years ago?  extended partitions
[02:59] <usr13> ruser: I do not think you will be able to boot MS Windows from /dev/sda6  (needs to be /dev/sda1)
[02:59] <ruser> usr13: lol, it worked fine for last 3 years
[03:00] <ruser> usr13: till i borked the partitioning
[03:00] <usr13> Does anyone else have any advise for  ruser   ?
[03:01] <amirwebdev2> where i can add a startup script to my boot before its asks for the session manager?
[03:01] <reisio> ubuntunewbie: mmmmmm.....
[03:01] <reisio> ubuntunewbie: you can create a persistent storage space with unetbootin and the like
[03:01] <usr13> ruser: You've saddled a dead horse. <AFIK>
[03:01] <reisio> ubuntunewbie: but if you're going to go and get a hard drive tomorrow, you're wasting your time tonight
[03:02] <ubuntunewbie> reisio: yeah. I think I'm going to call this one a non-starter. I very much appreciate the advice
[03:02] <reisio> ruser: did you paste your grub config?
[03:02] <reisio> ubuntunewbie: np
[03:03] <Jordan_U> ruser: What is the output of "sudo os-prober"?
[03:03] <ruser> usr13: as i said it worked just fine before, here is my output of fdisk 3 years ago http://nopaste.info/15d3aba04d.html
[03:03] <ruser> Jordan_U: nothing
[03:03] <Jedi_048> Guys can you help me to install guest operating system in ubuntu server 10.10?
[03:03] <KM0201> Jedi_048: i have asked you 3x to elaborate on what you want to do, because that question makes no sense.
[03:04] <reisio> Jedi_048: we can, if you explain
[03:04] <Jordan_U> ruser: Then your Windows install is likely still broken. Once it's fixed "sudo update-grub" should add an entry for it automatically.
[03:04] <nevyn> Jedi_048: which virtualisation stack do you want to use?
[03:04] <ruser> Jordan_U: i would disagree. it doesn't list linux either
[03:05] <nevyn> Jedi_048: and what guest os do you want to install?
[03:05] <Jordan_U> ruser: os-prober only lists operating systems other than the one the command is being run from.
[03:07] <Jedi_048> Sorry guys, I just kept on disconnecting...
[03:07] <Jedi_048> anyway...
[03:07] <Jedi_048> I got ubuntu server 10.10 installed as a Virtual Machine Host...
[03:08] <Jedi_048> now I need to install Guest OS on it....
[03:08] <Jedi_048> how am I gonna do it?
[03:08] <ruser> okay, i guess i'm going to have to poke around the paritioning again
[03:08] <Jedi_048> @ nevyn: still got no idea about ubuntu virtual machine host...
[03:09] <Jedi_048> but I did installed it as virtual machine host using the ubuntu server 10.10 installer...
[03:09] <Jedi_048> @nevyn:  I want to install windows server 2003 as guest OS if possible...
[03:10] <Hilikus> is it possible to integrate the unity dash home to search for music in an MPD server? there's a section for music, but it looks like it searches locally only
[03:10] <reisio> Hilikus: course
[03:10] <Eredien> I am using UNetBootin and the process keeps failing when it goes to configure the network--skipping doesn't help since then it obviously can't download the ubuntu files from the mirror. First it asks for my IP for the netbook, which I don't know how to access since my os won't boot--I think that's where it's failing. I have the IP addy for the machine I'm currently on, but don't know how to get it for the one I'm trying to fix since I
[03:11] <marcelofroes> hi guys. i am trying to get a shellscript running. but looks like i am having the most simplest of prblems when running.
[03:11] <marcelofroes> mayve pipe
[03:11] <marcelofroes> here is the script
[03:11] <marcelofroes> http://pastebin.com/mHrHiJyM
[03:11] <Hilikus> reisio: course what?
[03:11] <marcelofroes> the script just runs a `ls -la | grep a`
[03:12] <Pici> Jedi_048: You may want to take a look at the following, I've followed it successfully in the past: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
[03:12] <Jedi_048> 1
[03:12] <Pici> Jedi_048: the virt-host task that you installed during the installation contains the kvm stack which is used there.
[03:13] <reisio> Hilikus: (of) course it is possible to integrate the unity dash home to search for music in an MPD server
[03:13] <Jimmy_Kash>  hey how can you skip a checkdisk.  If i ctrl+c it just asks for admin pass and then reboots automatically and does the same thing
[03:13] <Hilikus> reisio: how?
[03:13] <qin> marcelofroes: xxx=$(ls -la | grep D); echo $xxx
[03:13] <reisio> Jimmy_Kash: you shouldn't, really
[03:13] <reisio> Hilikus: no idea
[03:14] <reisio> Hilikus: couldn't be that hard
[03:14] <Hilikus> reisio: ok
[03:14] <Eredien> Can anyone help me find the IP address for my computer when I can
[03:14] <reisio> Hilikus: might want to ask the mpd guys about it
[03:14] <Eredien> 't can't get to terminal and am using unetbootin?
[03:14] <reisio> Hilikus: they embrace so many frontends already
[03:15] <chaospsychex> thumbs up if ya use 10.10!!!
[03:15] <marcelofroes> qin, it gives me an error like that  `REV_CMD_LINE=(ls -la | grep a);'
[03:16] <qin> marcelofroes: typo, missing $, foo=$(bar)
[03:16] <ruser> okay,  here is more complex question.  I've done a full disk dump (dd) of my harddrive before i started mucking about with my paritions and such.  how can i recover a section of that said file?
[03:17] <scottj> if there's no /etc/X11/xorg.conf is there another place where Ubuntu might have one or does xorg just detect stuff when it loads?
[03:19] <marcelofroes> qin, but that would execute the command and insert inside the variable the result, correct ? i would like to put the String there, and then, execute the command insithe the string
[03:19] <Jedi_048> guys, there it is...
[03:19] <Jedi_048> need more info on what am I gonna do?
[03:20] <qin> marcelofroes: Maybe /join #bash, since you may need more detailed help.
[03:20] <phrostbite> It's been a while since I have used ubuntu and I forget what that package is called to play mp3s and flash and stuff
[03:20] <marcelofroes> example.... the script does a tree, then depending on input, concats, grep a, then grep b, etc.  and on the end would execute it
[03:21] <usr13> ruser: what is the file name?
[03:21] <Chat9832> Hi everyone anyone wanna chat to Aussie guy
[03:21] <qin> Chat9832: /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:21] <ruser> usr13:  i want to recover my ntfs partition from a full disk dump LAPTOP.img  (it conains full image)
[03:22] <usr13> ruser: I thought you said that the computer will boot to Ubuntu.  Right?
[03:22] <pconwell> does anyone know how I can connect to a remote server in 11.04? in 10.04, you could just click "connect to remote computer" then click ssh in a dropdown and then get a nautilus view of the remote files
[03:23] <Jedi_048> @ Pici: thank you, gonna look at it now...
[03:23] <Jedi_048> thank you guys...
[03:23] <usr13> ruser: You can mount the LAPTOP.img file and do as you please with it, (as in copying My Documents to another directory).
[03:23] <Jedi_048> and sorry for the late replies cause I got some problem in my internet...
[03:23] <Jedi_048> thank you...
[03:24] <ruser> usr13:  the partitinig table is broked, plus it's a full snapshot as opposed to individual  partition
[03:24] <ruser> usr13: so i cna't just mount it as a loopback. or as ntfs because it's in hibernate stage
[03:24] <usr13> ruser: Yea
[03:24] <Jordan_U> ruser: Is the partition table in the image broken?
[03:25] <ruser> Jordan_U: correct. that's prior me tryign to recover it, sadly due do some circumstances i don't have a different backup.  (my backup hdd died 10 days ago)
[03:25] <usr13> ruser: mkdir old-files/  ; mount -t iso9660 -o loop,ro LAPTOP.img old-files/
[03:26] <Jedi_048> Pici: ever tried to install GUI based guest OS on it? (let's say for example: Windows server 2003?)
[03:26] <awesomeashell> my launcher disapeared after i used ubuntu 2d and now i cant get it up and everything in the top right corner is gome all i have is the icons i hade on my desktop and file edit view go bookmarks and help can someone please help me
[03:26] <dr_willis> theres some offset option if its a full hd image with partitions.
[03:26] <ruser> usr13:  it does not contain valid parition table
[03:26] <Jordan_U> usr13: That command won't work for many reasons. Among them that it's not an iso9660 filesystem and you need to mount an individual partition from the image.
[03:26] <ruser> dr_willis: you wouldn't happen to know the options :)
[03:27] <Jordan_U> ruser: sudo kpartx -a /path/to/image
[03:27] <awesomeashell> if your talking to me about my launcher problome please put awesomeashell befor you say anything
[03:27] <dr_willis> ruser: ive seen guides on it.
[03:27] <pconwell> nevermind, found it
[03:27] <Pici> Jedi_048: I installed XP.  It doesn't require a GUI on the server, but another computer from which you can use the remote tools will be quite helpful.
[03:27] <dr_willis> i always  gotta google them
[03:28] <usr13> Jordan_U: I suppose he could plug in a usb drive and dd it over to the usb drive and read it from there.
[03:28] <brianherman>  i messed up my xorg.conf
[03:28] <ruser> Jordan_U: hold on, rebooting the machine again.
[03:28] <brianherman> i took out a video card
[03:28] <Jordan_U> ruser: That will create devices in /dev/mapper for each partition. But what do you intend to do to try to "recover" it? Recovering files will be easy, getting back a bootable Windows install will be less so (but still possible).
[03:28] <brianherman> i tried dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[03:28] <brianherman> that didnt work
[03:28] <Jordan_U> usr13: See my answer to ruser about kpartx.
[03:28] <HulkHogan> smash pc
[03:29] <awesomeashell> can someone please help me with my launcher problome
[03:29] <usr13> Jordan_U: Yea, I saw that.  I'm not familiar with kpartx
[03:29] <ruser> Jordan_U: tehre is no valid partition markup.  I want to  take the part of the snapshot that corresponds to my NTFS parition and  overwrtie my current laptop NTFS partition thus bringing it back to original stage
[03:29] <ruser> Jordan_U:  will it auto-detect patitions?  witohut the valid markup?
[03:30] <Jordan_U> ruser: I thought you said that the image had a perfectly good partition table. Does it?
[03:30] <ruser> Jordan_U: negative, it does not
[03:30] <Jordan_U> ruser: Then the command I gave will not work.
[03:30] <ruser> Jordan_U: gpart can however restore the table
[03:31] <tmax> I am having a really bad time. can anyone tell me how to reconfigure everything to fresh install wihtout lossing data w/o installed software
[03:32] <tmax> Currently I can't login with any user but root. not even with a Freshly created user.
[03:32] <ruser> tmax: you can backup /home  and that should be sufficient to safe the user files
[03:32] <ruser> tmax: what error do you get?
[03:32] <ruser> s/safe/save/
[03:32] <usr13> tmax: What did you do to it?
[03:33] <awesomeashell> my launcher disapeeared after i used ubuntu 2d and now i cant get it up and everythiing in the top right corner is gone all i have is the icons on my desktop and file edit view go bookmarks and help can someone please help me if you a responding to my problome please put awesomeashell infront of your response
[03:33] <tmax> ruser: sad thing, I don't get an error, when I login it just falls back to login page.
[03:33] <tmax> usr13: compiz config and then removed the compiz-1 and some other config files.
[03:33] <ruser> tmax: have you tried logging in on console?  ctrl+alt+f1?
[03:33] <tmax> rsuer: that works just fine.
[03:33] <ruser> tmax: so only your gui is borked?
[03:34] <Jordan_U> ruser: Can you go over what exactly you have done to this hard drive since things were last working properly?
[03:34] <tmax> ruser, yup I think so. I instaleed KDE and GNOME but it was the same just like unity.
[03:34] <awesomeashell> if you are responding to my launcher problome please put awesomeashell infront of your response
[03:35] <scottj> what commnad lists installed packages matching a string?
[03:35] <ruser> Jordan_U: i was trying to fix usb key which wasn't getting recognized, i made a typo and broke my partition table, and rebooted since than.  after that i took live cd for knoppix that i had lying around since 2008
[03:35] <ruser> tmax: so what do you want to install kde gnome or unity?
[03:36] <Jordan_U> ruser: What typo did you make?
[03:36] <tmax> ruser: unity FTW>
[03:36] <tmax> s/FTW>/FTW.
[03:36] <ruser> Jordan_U: i dd'ed the full hard drive (100G) over to external HDD via usb1.  run gpart to recover my parition table, and than while tryign to fix my windows startup i owerwrote sectio nof the ntfs parition
[03:37] <ruser> Jordan_U: i scrapped the full table and allocated 125M on what i thought was usb key, but in fact was my hdd
[03:38] <ruser> Jordan_U:  i think i typed sdb instead of sda, and didn't look at the table
[03:38] <tmax> ruser: I want to get unity working can you help me with that ?
[03:38] <usr13> Jordan_U: I think he (ruser) said that this is what he has now, http://nopaste.info/6daa9fd36b.html  and this is what he had before, http://nopaste.info/15d3aba04d.html
[03:39] <usr13> ruser: Is that correct?
[03:39] <ruser> usr13: yeah, i scapped the dell recovery partiton.  the before was with fdisk 3 or 4 years ago
[03:40] <ruser> tmax: sorry, i'm not good with unity.  but there should be a way to dpkg-reconfigure unity or something
[03:40] <ruser> tmax:  you should also check the lgo files for errors
[03:41] <ruser> usr13: on top of it is now, i overwrote section of the NTFS parition while trying to install mbr beacuse of my own stupidity
[03:41] <Jordan_U> ruser: First, do you have all important documents and other files backed up?
[03:41] <ruser> Jordan_U: as previoulsy described my backup HDD crapped out on me 10 days ago and hasn't been replaced yet
[03:42] <ruser> Jordan_U: i am in funcional linux instal from that hdd and can get all my files except NTFS
[03:43] <Jordan_U> ruser: Do you have any files on the ntfs partition which you can't afford to lose? Do you have any files on the linux partition which you can't afford to lose?
[03:43] <ruser> Jordan_U: i have a full backup now for hte linux, but there are files that i want to recover from NTFS and rather not loose them
[03:46] <ruser> so, is it recoverable?  i think yes,  i recover linux no problem, but screwed up my NTFS, so i suppose i can go thorugh whole procedure and recover NTFS again. seems like my only option unless i find a way to restore part of the image onto hdd
[03:47] <Jordan_U> ruser: I would not recommend trying to restore part of an image. It's possible, but there are too many ways that it could go wrong (some which you might not notice until some time down the road).
[03:48] <ruser> Jordan_U: fair enough.  partition table is stored separate from the file allocation so i should have no problem getting everything back to original state, as long as i can boot into win
[03:48] <tripelb> Success report: directory transferred. I could not make a directory on the target drive.
[03:48] <skyball> In transmission where are the settings for queue?
[03:49] <ruser> so, i guess it's another 14 hours of waiting or so :/
[03:49] <phrostbite> I am trying to set up my vpn and it keeps saying invalid vpn secrets. I have no idea what that means. Any suggestions?
[03:50] <jordan> skyball: edit > preferences > downloading, and also grep "queue" in the settings.json config file
[03:50] <skyball> thanks
[03:50] <Jordan_U> ruser: The surest way to fix this would seem to be by dding the entire contents of the drive image back to the drive, then using gpart or testdisk to fix the partition table. It does however mean that you'll need to depend on your backups in case anything goes wrong.
[03:50] <Jordan_U> ruser: Also, if you've been at this a long time I would recommend that you stop for now and wait until tomorrow when your head is more clear.
[03:51] <ruser> Jordan_U:  yeah, fair enough.  spend ful lday today on this.  but dding it back will take ~14 hours so i will want to run it overnight
[03:51] <ruser> i'll make another backup of the img
[03:52] <gotgnu> if i install gnome-shell is that gnome-3.2?
[03:52] <KM0201> i think so.
[03:52] <KM0201> !gnome3
[03:53] <gotgnu> no help there
[03:53] <Jordan_U> gotgnu: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3.0, not 3.2.
[03:54] <gotgnu> is there a ppa for 3.2?
[03:54] <ruser> Jordan_U: thanks for your help thought.  what's that other utility you mentioned
[03:54] <ruser> Jordan_U: other tha gpart
[03:54] <Jordan_U> ruser: testdisk.
[03:55] <ruser> Jordan_U: thanks
[03:55] <Jordan_U> ruser: You're welcome.
[03:55] <ruser> usr13: thanks to you too :)
 ok. i am having issues getting the transmission-daemon to keep its edited json settings file after a restart. i followed to seperate guides to set it up(http://1000umbrellas.com/2010/10/04/updated-transmission-installationconfiguration-on-ubuntu-server)and(https://trac.transmissionbt.com/wiki/EditConfigFiles) neither worked
 i am running ubuntu-server 11.10
[03:56] <ruser> !root | Nostoc
[03:56] <ruser> oh crap, factgoids have changed
[03:57] <Nostoc> lol
[03:57] <ruser> Nostoc: i wanted to say don't use root user :)
[03:57] <Nostoc> how can I PM you ruser?
[03:57] <Nostoc> is that possible in xchat?
[03:58] <hopp3r> HI THERE, WHAT IS ubuntu?
[03:58] <jordan> i3luefire: one common gotcha is that transmission allows users to change its settings remotely, so its in-memory config gets dumped to disk in settings.json when it exits. If you're editing settings.json by hand and then stopping->restarting transmission, it's probably overwriting your changes
[03:58] <Jordan_U> hopp3r: Please don't use all caps.
[03:58] <naptastic> Why would Ubuntu be ignoring the directives I put in /etc/network/interfaces?
[03:58] <hopp3r> Jordan_U: sorry, caps stuck, and I didnt wanna type it all again
[03:58] <tottiq> !ubuntu
[03:58] <jordan> i3luefire: one way to avoid this problem is to exit transmission-daemon, then edit the file, and then restart transmission daemon. Another way is to force it to reload settings.json after you edit it by sending it a SIGHUP
[03:58] <hopp3r> tottiq: and can I move all the crap I have on this operating system to ubuntu?
[03:59] <da_Tash> does the installer automatically detect a windows 7 installation or a post installation tweak is needed?
[03:59] <hopp3r> tottiq: also, how would I do it
[03:59] <i3luefire> jordan: each of the guides says that and says to reload the daemon first before restarting
[03:59] <tottiq> hopp3r, indeed, you can do whatever you want
[03:59] <reisio> hopp3r: yes, though certain programs you move might not function
[03:59] <Jordan_U> da_Tash: Ubuntu's installer automatically detects Windows 7 and allows you to setup a dual boot (if you choose to).
[03:59] <hopp3r> reisio: like what programs?
[04:00] <i3luefire> jordan: yes i did the SIGHUP thing
[04:00] <i3luefire> i3luefire@ubuntu-server:/etc/transmission-daemon$ sudo pkill -HUP transmission-da
[04:00] <reisio> hopp3r: programs you install for Windows are designed to run only on Windows, Linux (Ubuntu) uses an entirely different API
[04:00] <reisio> hopp3r: many programs can still be run via a win32 api reimplementation called Wine
[04:00] <reisio> hopp3r: many will not run, however
[04:00] <hopp3r> reisio: what operating system do I have now?
[04:00] <reisio> hopp3r: for those you'd want to find a native API equivalent/replacement
[04:01] <reisio> hopp3r: no idea
[04:01] <reisio> probably Windows
[04:01] <hopp3r> reisio: I am using chrome operating system, will that work with ubuntu?
[04:01] <reisio> hopp3r: Chrome is Linux
[04:01] <reisio> hopp3r: virtually anything you use in Chrome will be available from Ubuntu as well
[04:01] <jiohdi> chrome works well with both debian and ubuntu
[04:01] <Jordan_U> hopp3r: ChromeOS is based on Ubuntu.
[04:02] <reisio> Jordan_U: it is?
[04:02] <Jordan_U> reisio: If I recall correctly.
[04:02] <hopp3r> reisio: ok, and will I have my favorites from my chome operating system put into ubuntu too?
[04:02] <jiohdi> the chrome sync requires chromium to work in debian squeeze, the chrome does not have something set right
[04:02] <reisio> Jordan_U: ah, apparently they used the Ubuntu kernel as a starting point
[04:02] <reisio> Jordan_U: different
[04:02] <scottj> how to have ubuntu recalibrate/detect video and audio hardware w/o reinstalling? I took a hdd from machine a to b and video and audio on b aren't behaving the same as when I install same ubuntu version from scratch on b.
[04:02] <reisio> hopp3r: you can if you like
[04:03] <phrostbite> I am trying to set up my vpn and it keeps saying invalid vpn secrets. I have no idea what that means. Any suggestions?
[04:03] <reisio> hopp3r: they should be available in the filesystem somewhere
[04:03] <reisio> hopp3r: it might be simpler to export them from ChromeOS before the move
[04:03] <reisio> hopp3r: you can also likely run your ChromeOS in a VM from within Ubuntu as needed
[04:03] <jiohdi> if you set up chrome sync, everything moves with you no matter what machine you use
[04:03] <hopp3r> reisio: and will I have the chrome operating system on my desktop in ubuntu too?
[04:03] <jiohdi> your themes, passwords, book marks etc
[04:03] <reisio> hopp3r: you can, but I suggested it mostly as a stepping stone approach
[04:04] <hopp3r> reisio: oh,actually I just noticed I switch off chrome operating system a while ago, I am now using firefox operating system x.x fail
[04:04] <reisio> heh
[04:04] <reisio> uhuh :p
[04:04] <Jordan_U> hopp3r: Did you buy a Chromebook?
[04:04] <hopp3r> Jordan_U: what is chromebook?
[04:05] <hopp3r> reisio: ohsorry, firefox is not my operating system. I feel so stupid now. I am using dell operating system (fail)
[04:05] <ruser> usr13:  i just looked up the date on my post at it's june 2006.  the before state, lol
[04:05] <reisio> that'd be Windows
[04:05] <hopp3r> no, it sais dell on it
[04:05] <reisio> you are a funny man :p
[04:05] <hopp3r> and I also have opera operating system on my dell operating system
[04:05] <hopp3r> :p
[04:05]  * hopp3r tickles reisio 
[04:06] <hopp3r> you wanna be friends, then you can help me with my firefox operating system?
[04:06] <reisio> sure
[04:06] <tottiq> trolling?
[04:06] <Jordan_U> hopp3r: This channel is for Ubuntu support questions. Please stop the offtopic sillyness.
[04:06] <hopp3r> reisio: heh, fail when I told you that chrome was my operating system, I didnt realize it was an actual OS
[04:07] <i3luefire> jordan: http://pastebin.com/SaZvGHYW                                      http://pastebin.com/UafzH6j2
[04:07] <reisio> hopp3r: next time :p
[04:07] <hopp3r> reisio: heh, lemme know when you go offline to troll some other loser :p
[04:08] <ruser> o.O
[04:08] <Summ1> anyone feel like helping a semi-newb with some basic linux questions?
[04:08] <i3luefire> anyone have any ideas
[04:08] <ruser> Summ1: !ask
[04:08] <Summ1> k
[04:09] <ruser> !ask | Summ1
[04:09] <tripelb> summ1 shoot
[04:11] <Summ1> say for example i want to download a torrent through firefox and when i click on the torrent link a option windows appears... do i want to save the file or open with.... so if i click on open with it brings up a file browser window....where are the linux program files located?  in the bin folder?  what is the equal to .exe in windows?
[04:11] <naptastic> Summ1, The most direct answer to your question is to install Transmission through Ubuntu Software center.
[04:12] <dr_willis> i allways just save the .torrent files
[04:12] <naptastic> Summ1, Once you've done that, when you click a torrent link in Firefox, it will offer to open it with Transmission, which is a good default.
[04:12] <Summ1> that's what i did
[04:12] <Summ1> but for future reference, if it's not a torrent but something else
[04:12] <ruser> Summ1: once you install a client it should associate your client with the file
[04:12] <i3luefire>  ok. i am having issues getting the transmission-daemon to keep its edited json settings file after a restart. i followed to seperate guides to set it up(http://1000umbrellas.com/2010/10/04/updated-transmission-installationconfiguration-on-ubuntu-server)and(https://trac.transmissionbt.com/wiki/EditConfigFiles) neither worked
 <i3luefire> i am running ubuntu-server 11.10 i did the SIGHUP thing http://pastebin.com/SaZvGHYW                                      http://pastebin.com/UafzH6j2   anyone have any ideas
[04:12] <dr_willis> then double click them to get them going
[04:13] <naptastic> Summ1, I'm afraid I don't understand. What exactly are you downloading? Is it the .torrent file?
[04:14] <tripelb> summ1 wanna follow up the torrent thread, to the end then do another situation?
[04:14] <i3luefire> that was a consolodation of my previous multi-line question so as to comply with !ask | i3luefire
[04:14] <jordan> i3luefire: could you be more specific about what error you're encountering?
[04:14] <Summ1> i got the .torrent to work.  i guess my question is if i am presented with the "open with" option, i click on it, get the file browser window, where would i look to select an appropriate program
[04:14] <jordan> i3luefire: when you say "neither worked" -- what was the behavior that you saw?
[04:15] <zachspcmods> HOWDY
[04:15] <Guest28669> ello
[04:15] <dr_willis> Summ1:  execnutables can be most anywhere linux searches the system PATH varable to find them nirmally
[04:15] <zachspcmods> go to www.zachspcmods.com
[04:15] <zachspcmods> now
[04:15] <zachspcmods> ....
[04:15] <Resistance> zachspcmods, advertising isnt exactly permitted in here
[04:15] <Resistance> (usually)
[04:16] <zachspcmods> i dont care
[04:16] <Summ1> in linux, are they still called executables...ending in .exe or something else
[04:16] <zachspcmods> bye
[04:16] <tripelb> let me just explain Summ1. you download a torrent file by doubleclicking the download torrent link on a webpage that you are viewing in Firfox. That opens a Firefox dialog box which asks you how you want to handle that file. If you have installed the torrent program Transmission on your computer (maybe it comes with it?) then it will ask you Open in Transmission for instance.
[04:16] <dr_willis> Summ1:  no. exe extenstins
[04:16] <ruser> Summ1:  yes, they are also called binaries.  but in linux most "executable" type of files don't have an extension
[04:16] <i3luefire> jordan: it kept overwriting the files. but now i have tried your solution of stopping editing then starting the deamon and i posted the pastebin of my terminal window with the commands i entered and the error i got and another pastebin of my config file
[04:16] <tripelb> Summ1 the exicutible status is set as a flag in the system which you have control over. There is no cute ending in linux fore executibles.
[04:16] <dr_willis> Summ1: they just have the executable bit set
[04:17] <tripelb> Summi a web page, html is executible.
[04:17] <Summ1> ok, so generally if i choose the "open with" option; a good place to start looking would be in the bin folder?
[04:17] <Guest28669> Just installed Ubuntu 11.10 on Compaq Evo N620c Laptop... How do I install the driver for the graphics card?
[04:17] <ruser> Summ1:  when you do ls -l  in console on file, you can see the permissions bits which are set, one of them is an exectuable bit
[04:17] <dr_willis> Summ1: look in /bin and /usr/bin  fir example
[04:17] <reisio> Guest28669: nvidia?
[04:17] <Guest28669> Yes sir
[04:17] <reisio> ati
[04:17] <Summ1> thanks
[04:18] <jordan> i3luefire: ah ok, I didn't see the second pastbin, only the first one
[04:18] <reisio> Guest28669: sure?
[04:18]  * jordan reads
[04:18] <tripelb> Summ1 if you want to see the flag or as dr_willis puts it the executible bit, I know how to do it in terminal
[04:18] <Summ1> i do read a lot of how to's just so you know
[04:18] <reisio> Guest28669: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia for nvidia
[04:18] <Guest28669> Woops hang on let me check for 100% sure
[04:18] <Summ1> in fact i am reading them now so i could learn how to use pidgin
[04:18] <tripelb> summ1 console i terminal  the bits are r for read w for write and x for executible
[04:18] <reisio> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI for ati
[04:18] <jordan> i3luefire: the json parser is erroring out because you omitted the comma at the end of line 62, the utp-enabled line
[04:19] <Rallias> whats the lightest weight graphical windowing system in the repositories?
[04:19] <reisio> Rallias: that you'd want to use, lubuntu-desktop
[04:19] <reisio> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde
[04:20] <i3luefire> jordan:   "utp-enabled": true             line
[04:20] <Summ1> tripleb ok so how do you do it in terminal
[04:20] <reisio> Rallias: the actual lightest is probably dwm
[04:20] <jordan> i3luefire: right
[04:20] <tripelb> summ1 heres an example from ls -al  --->next line   drwxr-xr-x     2 taylorqu  taylorqu     68 Nov 27 19:17 untitled folder
[04:20] <tripelb> drwx------   113 taylorqu  taylorqu   3842 Nov 19 17:43 xchatlogs, thru nov 27
[04:20] <KM0201> !info pastebinit
[04:20] <jordan> needs a comma at the end, like the other lines have
[04:20] <Rallias> reisio: does dwm have any known issues with minecraft?
[04:20] <jordan> in order to be valid json
[04:20] <reisio> Rallias: oh, just use openbox for that
[04:21] <KM0201> !info pastebinit maverick
[04:21] <Rallias> mmk
[04:21] <i3luefire> jordan: thank you
[04:21] <Summ1> tripleb:  do i need to cd to file directory or give a file path first when using ls option
[04:21] <jordan> i3luefire: you're welcome
[04:21] <tripelb> summ1 pidgin, I never actually learned it, I just used it.
[04:21] <Summ1> good point
[04:21] <reisio> Rallias: and if that doesn't work: http://linux.about.com/od/gmr_howto/a/hwtgmr05t01.htm
[04:21] <tripelb> Summ1, re pidgin, there is no uparrow-history to get the last commmand. I miss that so I use xchat.
[04:22] <reisio> Rallias: you can start a second X with startx -- :1 -br
[04:22] <reisio> Rallias: and switch between with CTRL+ALT+F8/F7
[04:22] <Summ1> i installed that too, heard it was good, but i haven't tested it yet
[04:22] <tripelb> summ1 yes you need to cd to the directory or use a relative path from where you are or use an absolute path. Those start with slash.
[04:23] <Summ1> tripleb: so say i find the exe bit, how would i then execute a program from there
[04:24] <Rallias> reisio so what would the equivelant be for lightdm?
[04:25] <reisio> Rallias: xdm
[04:25] <tripelb> summ1 pidgin has some gizmo by which somone becomes your friend and you then get notified when he coomes on the network you are logged into. -- Pidgin has OTR a very secure feature. Somehow you need an AOL AIM passaword for that. I always stumble thru the process. Those are good points to pidgin. It also does more than just IRC while xchat is a narrow project.
[04:25] <reisio> Rallias: or not using a DM at all
[04:25] <Rallias> mmk
[04:25] <reisio> not particularly required for single user boxes, for starters
[04:26] <Guest28669> Nothing is found when searching under additional drivers...
[04:26] <Summ1> tripleB: sorry if you don't want to automatically become my friend  :P
[04:27] <tripelb> Summ1, you are off base. what you to to execute a program which probably already has the bit set so dont worry about it is to click on it, or invoke it with it's name in a terminal. It's a bit like being a wizard. It's the same story about the path, BUT the system will look for the name thru a certain set of directories that usually works so I havent had to worry.
[04:27] <tripelb> s/it's/its/
[04:27] <Summ1> ok makes sense
[04:27] <phrostbite> How do you know what your system keychain password is? Is it the password that you use for the terminal and every other change you make?
[04:28] <Summ1> i know u can hit alt + f2 and type in the name of a program  (usually)
[04:28] <tripelb> Summ1, who said I didnt want to be your friend? I'm using xchat so I cant even see a request in pidgin. xchat doesnt do it. Its between "bird fans" heh
[04:28] <tripelb> phrostbite, I have never ever needed to know my system password
[04:28] <Summ1> also, all my installed programs are listed in the menu, but i installed ubuntu to try and get used to command line function
[04:28] <tripelb> summ1 yes that's an single line terminal
[04:29] <reisio> Guest28669: what does lspci | grep -i vga say?
[04:29] <tripelb> summ1 then I'll help you the best that I can.
[04:29] <phrostbite> Well I am trying to set up my vpn and after I enter all the info it brings up a window that says enter password to authorize the con to connect  and it's not my vpn password
[04:29] <Kaleidoscope> What's the commands to compile a program from source?
[04:29] <usr13>  phrostbite tripelb By default, it will probably be your user's password.  If not, it will more-than-likely be impossible to find it.
[04:29] <tripelb> Summ1, I have a favorite study / refernce site. Would you like to know it? Tell me yours.
[04:30] <Summ1> sure
[04:30] <Guest28669> WoW how do i do that?
[04:30] <reisio> Kaleidoscope: http://tldp.org/LDP/LG/current/smith.html
[04:30] <reisio> Kaleidoscope: but you should look for a .deb first
[04:30] <usr13> Kaleidoscope:  configure make make install
[04:30] <Summ1> wiki
[04:30] <reisio> Kaleidoscope: also use checkinstall
[04:30] <Guest28669> Sorry for being a NOOB
[04:30] <tripelb> Summ1, http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/
[04:30] <Kaleidoscope> usr13, all in one line?
[04:30] <phrostbite> usr13, I am trying to set my vpn up and it keeps saying invalid vpn secrets. All the pages I have found on google i tried the steps and they don't work
[04:30] <tripelb> NOOB info site: starting at the beginning http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/
[04:30] <usr13> Kaleidoscope: As the others have said, it is best to use the package manager.
[04:30] <Summ1> oh i've actually come across this b4
[04:30] <Summ1> bookmarked now
[04:31] <usr13> Kaleidoscope: No, they are 3 separate commands
[04:31] <Kaleidoscope> I there is no deb file, I've checked
[04:31] <reisio> Kaleidoscope: for what?
[04:31] <usr13> Kaleidoscope: What application is it?
[04:31] <Kaleidoscope> usr13, k thanks
[04:31] <Summ1> i have a LPI Linux Certification book, but it's sooooo heavy.  Not something to start learning from
[04:31] <Summ1> Good reference though
[04:31] <reisio> additionally, a lot of source code comes with a README or INSTALL file that explains similarly
[04:32] <PacketPenguin> Can someone tell me if its possible to write to a new Ipod Touch in 11.10?
[04:32] <usr13> Kaleidoscope: ./configure   make     make install
[04:32]  * pierre_ This program is free --> http://pierregogni.textcashnetwork.com
[04:32] <tripelb> Summ1, I've been busy backing up this mac's tiny HD onto an external Ubuntu drive off a liveCD on the Mac which wouldnt work right, then it did. I had to keep booting back to the mac so I could ask here.
[04:33] <usr13> PacketPenguin: Should be able to.
[04:33] <reisio> interesting spam lately
[04:33] <Resistance> ^
[04:33] <Summ1> are you saying you need to ask some questions of your own?
[04:34] <tripelb> PacketPenguin, this will be my exact situation, but I have to upgrade from Tiger to Snow Leopard first. Right now I am using hte liveCD to transfer files to an external USB drive formatted Ubuntu.  I think though come to think of it that it's gonna be only Itunes.
[04:34] <Justin1> I am looking for better practice with chmod. I have been running chmod 777 and am told its insecure. Should i run chmod 774 and set my self to the directory groups or is there better practice? The goal is so I can run my services as non root users.
[04:34] <Tomfoolery123> my computer won't let me download anything
[04:34] <Tomfoolery123> why would it do that?
[04:34] <PacketPenguin> usr13, ok I heard the was issues with the new generation of ipods, thanks for clairifying the issue, I give it a go
[04:35] <ruser> Justin1: look into umask
[04:35] <usr13> Justin1: What service?
[04:35] <reisio> Tomfoolery123: meanness
[04:35] <tripelb> Justin1 it seems if you are protecting your computer from the outside than 777 or open access is fine. People get nuts.
[04:35] <Justin1> several services
[04:35] <Tomfoolery123> reisio, for reals i'm panicking here
[04:35] <reisio> Tomfoolery123: the computer you're using with IRC right now?
[04:35] <PacketPenguin> tripelb, I have an old g4 run jag I could use it for itues only but the drive is so small and only usb 1
[04:36] <Justin1> i was told that there can be loopholes in certain scripts with 777
[04:36] <Tomfoolery123> reisio - yes
[04:36] <Summ1> tripleb: anyway, thnx for your help.  good luck with your current project
[04:36] <Kaleidoscope> Ok so, I did make, it ran fine, Now I try make install, says "no rule to make target "install""
[04:36] <reisio> Tomfoolery123: what exactly can't you download?
[04:36] <Justin1> I will research umask
[04:36] <usr13> Kaleidoscope: What is it?
[04:36] <Tomfoolery123> reisio http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/357630037/misfits?tab=summary this
[04:37] <Kaleidoscope> John the Ripper
[04:37] <Tomfoolery123> reisio, http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6848760/Misfits_S03E05_HDTV_XviD-TLA_[eztv] this
[04:37] <Tomfoolery123> reisio - http://www.mediafire.com/?yzl2hznyylm this
[04:37] <usr13> Kaleidoscope: See my pm.
[04:37] <tripelb> usr13, I just got an ipod and I cant even set it up because this mac wont use the newer itunes. I hope it will work with ubuntu because my data is all on ubuntu drive.
[04:37] <Tomfoolery123> I'm testing it on loads of things and it won't let me down load squat
[04:38] <chromaticwt> ok, how do I do normal alt-tab behavior with unity?
[04:38] <reisio> Tomfoolery123: http://reisio.com/temp/gazingus/gazingus-expandable3.tar.7z
[04:38] <chromaticwt> I want alt tab to switch between every window instead of groups of windows.
[04:38] <Kaleidoscope> hmm
[04:38] <usr13> Kaleidoscope: What are you installing?
[04:38] <usr13> Kaleidoscope: See my pm.
[04:38] <Kaleidoscope> I'm on command line IRC and forgot how to switch windows on it...
[04:38] <Tomfoolery123> reisio - nothing
[04:39] <tripelb> Tomfoolery123, I couldnt find your original question but I can always set torrents into transmission. Once in a while I've gotten torrents, but even several in one day, that get into troansmission  but nothing ever happens. Try a torrent you know is ok and see if it gets any action.
[04:39] <giiker> DO I need to enter static routes in my ethernet config, even though my router has them, I can't connect to my other daysychained router
[04:40] <Tomfoolery123> tripelb - Tried a bunch of different things not just torrents. They're just not downloading
[04:40] <happygolucky> chromaticwt: inside a program you can switch with ctrl+tab or the other direction ctrl+shift+tab
[04:40] <tripelb> Kaleidoscope, I've been there. I never got it straight. -- Hey someone tell us both.
[04:40] <reisio> Tomfoolery123: maybe your ISP cut you off
[04:40] <tripelb> Tomfoolery123, are you using transmission?
[04:40] <reisio> Tomfoolery123: or maybe your ISP just sucks
[04:40] <Tomfoolery123> why would my isp cut me off?
[04:40] <Resistance> Tomfoolery123, or the torrents arent being seeded, therefore there's no way to get them?
[04:40] <Resistance> :P
[04:41] <Justin1> chromaticwt You can change the way the Alt + Tab switcher works. There is a setting in CompizConfig Settings manager (CCSM) that lets you create a bias Alt + Tab switcher that prefers windows from the current active desktop. sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager or from the software center.
[04:41] <reisio> all sorts of reasons
[04:41] <reisio> they aren't necessarily obliged to inform you, either
[04:41] <Guest28669> Well i'm guessing i'm sticking with the open source driver for my ATI graphics card then
[04:41] <tripelb> Tomfoolery123, is there a check that the port is open thing there?  Sometimes I make like windows and reboot. But do try stopping and starting transmission. -- resistance, I suggested that but he says nothing works.
[04:41] <Guest28669> Sorry for bugging you all
[04:41] <reisio> Guest28669: you ever get that lspci output?
[04:41] <Tomfoolery123> tripelb, it's not just torrents dude! now I can't boot up firefox
[04:42] <Resistance> tripelb, ah.  (btw, you might have just split that into another message... i initially thought you mishighlighted ;P)
[04:42] <tripelb> Guest28669, no one is bugged. we are happy to hel if we can. Best of luck.
[04:42] <tripelb> Tomfoolery123, Personally I'd reboot.
[04:42] <dr_willis> ive seen torrent client bugs where they always get to 99% then stop
[04:42] <Guest28669> I'm unaware on how to do it. Do i open a terminal window and type that in?
[04:42] <Resistance> Tomfoolery123, i'd just restart your system first off
[04:42] <Tomfoolery123> ok. Restarting.
[04:43] <naptastic> I have network interfaces defined in /etc/network/interfaces, but they're not being used. Why might that be?
[04:43] <tripelb> Guest28669, I have something to teach you. Use the nick of who you are talking to in the line of text. .. or more than one if you are talking to more than one person
[04:44] <giiker> Do I need to enter static routes in my ethernet config, even though my router has them, I can't connect to my other daysychained router
[04:44] <tripelb> Guest28669, this highlights the line. That allows one to skip everything that isnt highlisted. If you dont do it the person youare talking to may miss what you said.  Dig?
[04:44] <Guest28669> tripelb, O ok thanks
[04:45] <tripelb> Guest28669,  cool
[04:46] <usr13> naptastic: Maybe because they are not plugged into anything?
[04:46] <tripelb> Resistance, I split it up because I couldnt see it all and I got confused after I started fixing the middle of the line and lost context.
[04:46] <Resistance> :P
[04:46] <naptastic> usr13, they are plugged in :-D
[04:46] <JadedJacob> I'm a bit confused how ubuntu deals with bad sectors on hard drives, In windows XP, if I'm not sure of the state of the drive, I'll do a full format (rather than a quick format) on the partition I'm installing to do, which checks each sector before installing, but how does ubuntu deal with bad sectors?
[04:46] <usr13> naptastic: ifconfig
[04:47] <usr13> JadedJacob: Bridges over them just as MS Windows does.
[04:48] <usr13> JadedJacob: But you can just do quick format
[04:48] <JadedJacob> ok, but why does the windows format take hours, and the ubuntu drive format is almost instant.
[04:48] <usr13> JadedJacob: Because it's a different filesystem for one thing.
[04:49] <usr13> JadedJacob: It's not THAT quick.
[04:49] <Justin1> JadedJacob if you suspect your disk has bad sectors its time for a backup / replace
[04:49] <usr13> JadedJacob: And it depends on the size of the partition
[04:49] <usr13> Justin1: All hard drives have bad sectors
[04:51] <Guest28669> reisio, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
[04:51] <usr13> naptastic: What does ifconfig say about your network interface cards?
[04:51] <Tomfoolery123> it's sorted! woop woop
[04:51] <Tomfoolery123> thanks guys
[04:52] <Guest28669> reisio, looks like its installed Right?
[04:54] <reisio> Guest28669: that just means the system can see it
[04:54] <Guest28669> reisio, whats my next step?
[04:55] <reisio> Guest28669: I think that's only supported by the open source driver
[04:55] <gast2root> where can i find xvidcap config file?
[04:55] <usr13> gast2root: Probably in /etc/someplace
[04:55] <gast2root> usr13: lemme take a look
[04:55] <aeon-ltd> gast2root: or in a .folder in your home dir
[04:55] <Guest28669> reisio, OK I was just trying to get the TV Out to work on it
[04:56] <harsh343> I am not able to open my file, i am trying this command on remote server  sudo gedit /etc/my.cnf  ???
[04:56] <usr13> gast2root: What IS xvidcap
[04:56] <usr13> ?
[04:56] <mysticete> anyone know how to get an imac audio out port to work correctly?
[04:57] <usr13> What IS xvidcap?
[04:57] <gast2root> usr13: its the best screen recorder ever
[04:57] <usr13> o
[04:57] <Guest28669> reisio, The laptop has a S-Video output that functioned under windows
[04:57] <gast2root> usr13: makes me able to record specific area to mpeg
[04:57] <reisio> Guest28669: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI is the howto if it is supported
[04:58] <gast2root> usr13: but recently crashed on me, cant record video no more...
[04:58] <usr13> gast2root: Thanks for the info. But it crashed?
[04:59] <evanescent> the installation of a package (psensors) in software center seems to be sitting at 50 % done indefinitely. it says "applying changes". any ideas?
[05:00] <Guest28669> reisio, thanks for your help. Looks a lil too technical to pull off for me
[05:00] <Resistance> evanescent, how long has it sat there?
[05:00] <evanescent> dunno, 40 minutes maybe
[05:00] <evanescent> rough estimate
[05:01] <gast2root> usr13:video image freezes after recording
[05:01] <gast2root> usr13: video recording gives me freezed image
[05:01] <usr13> O
[05:02] <gast2root> usr13:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xvidcap/+bug/312563
[05:02] <hotkeys> I am warned running a dist upgrade over SSH  is not recommended, would you do it ?
[05:02] <gast2root> seems like an old bug
[05:03] <evanescent> is there any way I can at least get more details about what the software center is doing
[05:03] <evanescent> and/or cancel this install gracefully so I can try again with apt
[05:03] <usr13> gast2root: Are you 10.04?
[05:03] <reisio> hotkeys: don't know how people upgrade their servers otherwise
[05:03] <gast2root> usr13: no ocelot
[05:03] <reisio> hotkeys: of course smart people use Debian stable for that
[05:04] <usr13> ok, well, just noticing it says it's still present in 10.04
[05:04] <Lucas_> -_-
[05:04] <usr13> 312563
[05:05] <Resistance> evanescent, iirc, using apt to install it, or apt-get, will yeild the same "applying changes" thing.
[05:05] <usr13> #312563
[05:05] <Resistance> usr13, you mean bug #312563?
[05:05] <usr13> Resistance: Thanks
[05:05] <usr13> couldn't remember how to do that
[05:05] <reisio> I think recordmydesktop (and its frontends) are what the cool kids use nowadays
[05:06] <usr13> reisio: Yea, it's what I use
[05:06] <gast2root> reisio: ive tested that package, its super laggy and cant record in mpeg
[05:06] <Besogon> Hey!! G morning.
[05:06] <reisio> xvidcap went too GNOMEy for me
[05:06] <reisio> gast2root: MPEG? ew
[05:06] <gast2root> anyway cheers for help usr13
[05:06] <gast2root> gotta run
[05:07] <usr13> okeydokey
[05:07] <Besogon> I've installed Cario dock panel along with Gnome 3. And Cario hides gnome-panel. How to enable it?
[05:09] <Darminayd95> Hi
[05:09] <reisio> hi
[05:09] <mysticete> my headphone jack (audio out port) doesn't function, although my internal speakers do.  Is the problem in the ALSA configuration?
[05:09] <evanescent> Resistance, i could at least see what is going on
[05:09] <reisio> mysticete: possibly
[05:09] <Resistance> evanescent, not necessarily
[05:10] <Resistance> evanescent, i've seen Applying changes... messages before with no output
[05:10] <Mitsukaru> mysticete: try running the command "alsamixer" in terminal
[05:10] <Resistance> evanescent, also, i dont really use software center... i'm oldschool and prefer synaptic, aptitude, and apt-get ;P
[05:10] <evanescent> i just want to stop this thing gracefully
[05:11] <reisio> mysticete: check for muted channels (MM) and those with volume at 0, hit tab for more
[05:11] <reisio> mysticete: if that doesn't help, checkout https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto if you're using intel hda
[05:11] <Resistance> evanescent, afaik, there's no "graceful" way to stop a package configuration or installation
[05:11] <Resistance> but i might be wrong
[05:12] <mysticete> thanks, guys.  there's a channel labelled 'headphone'
[05:12] <evanescent> :(
[05:12] <mysticete> doesn't seem to be any way to affect it, however.
[05:13] <mysticete> plus, plugging in the headphones does not mute the internal speakers
[05:14] <Besogon> Here is a list of shells in lightdm but how-to see boot options??? Where are they saved?
[05:15] <Don_Rad> hi all, im using ubuntu 11.10, how can i change the default file browser from nautilus to marlin
[05:15] <Besogon> I'd like to have Cario as App launcher only but not as system panel :(((( Don't know what to do
[05:19] <Squarism> Does anyone know why my swap doesnt work after seeing this?
[05:19] <Squarism> http://pastebin.com/RgM3hxeu
[05:20] <reisio> so it was working before I saw that? :p
[05:21] <Mitsukaru> huh... i have a question, but it's pretty deep... what exactly determines what a user can or can not do?
[05:21] <Squarism> no... i installed 11.10 last week
[05:21] <reisio> Squarism: you know your swap line in fstab is commented out?
[05:22] <Mitsukaru> how come regular users can write to devices like the sound device, without privegele escalation, for example?
[05:22] <Mitsukaru> what allows regular users to do that?
[05:23] <Squarism> reisio, so uncomment it could fix it?
[05:24] <reisio> Squarism: it should not be commented if you want to use it
[05:24] <jaddison> Just installed a Ubuntu server 11.10 and am running into Wifi issues relating to my RT2860 chip.  I tried the 11.04 workaround of blacklisting the 5 rt2800 modules, but it didn't fix it in 11.10.  Any thoughts here?
[05:25] <shaiguitar> How would I go about using nginx with apt-get/aptitude/deb whatever, but passing a compile custom flag of some sort?
[05:25] <Mitsukaru> huh, ubuntu uses UUID-based fstab?
[05:25] <shaiguitar> it seems that nginx ubuntu doesn't come with FLV support
[05:25] <reisio> shifuimam: really, that'd be odd
[05:26] <shaiguitar> and I want to get that compiled in, but rather not do it from soruce, rather use some supported way...
[05:26] <jaddison> shaiguitar: if you want to compile in support, you'll need to download the source.
[05:26] <shaiguitar> or at least a way that is maintainable
[05:26] <shaiguitar> srsly?
[05:26] <reisio> for serious
[05:26] <Squarism> reisio, ok.. so i uncommented it... and then run "sudo swapon -a"
[05:26] <jaddison> .deb files are precompiled.
[05:26] <Mitsukaru> i guess that makes sense
[05:26] <Squarism> swapon: cannot find the device for UUID=f29fad6a-2128-4007-abae-edb80bf97026
[05:26] <Squarism> swapon: /dev/mapper/cryptswap1: stat failed: No such file or directory
[05:26] <shaiguitar> then the ubuntu apt stuff won't be "updated" no?
[05:26] <Squarism> ...reisio <-- and got the above
[05:27] <jaddison> True.  You maintain it separately from apt packages, shaiguitar.
[05:27] <shaiguitar> well could I at least make my own deb file I guess? or register it with aptitude or what not?
[05:27] <shaiguitar> jaddison: that's sort of lame?
[05:27] <jaddison> shaiguitar: Of that, I'm not sure.  Perhaps you could.
[05:27] <jaddison> Personally, I wouldn't bother.
[05:27] <shaiguitar> I don't see why there shouldn't be some way
[05:27] <shaiguitar> why not?
[05:27] <jaddison> But that's just me.
[05:27] <Squarism> reisio, do i need to reboot?
[05:27] <jaddison> I couldn't be bothered.  ;)
[05:27] <Mitsukaru> ubuntu has encrypted swap now?
[05:28] <jaddison> So, has anyone else run into Wifi issues with 11.10 and a RT2860 chipset?  I'd love to move ahead with my server installation.
[05:28] <reisio> Squarism: dunno, it's strange blkid doesn't show it
[05:29] <reisio> Squarism: if you're sure it's sda5, try sudo mkswap /dev/sda5 && sudo swapon /dev/sda5
[05:30] <reisio> or you could try a reboot I s'pose
[05:31] <Squarism> ok.. ill try a reboot
[05:32] <Besogon> OMG!!!! I've found where the session list is saved !! Ha ha ha.. Now I'm gonna change it
[05:32] <Besogon> may be
[05:34] <phrostbite> Is there another way of managing a vpn other than using network manager?
[05:34] <Squarism> reisio, reboot didnt give any swap
[05:35] <Squarism> how can one list all physical partitions a harddisk has?
[05:36] <reisio> fdisk -l
[05:36] <reisio> if blkid isn't seeing it, I'd venture to say that means the system doesn't recognize it as anything
[05:37] <reisio> which suggests it was never mkswap'd
[05:37] <reisio> could be wrong, though
[05:37] <Squarism> in fstab, the line above the swapstuff says  "# swap was on /dev/sdb5 during installation"
[05:37] <reisio> in any even you can sudo mkswap /dev/sda5 && sudo swapon /dev/sda5, and use /dev/sda5 in /etc/fstab instead of that UUID and it _should_ work
[05:38] <reisio> Squarism: right that's just FYI, since Ubuntu uses UUIDs
[05:39] <infocus> how can I not confuse the printing side when I print first odd pages, then turn the paper to print even pages at the back? It seems that the order in which the pages come out is reversed, first page last, last page first
[05:40] <Squarism> reisio, hey
[05:40] <Squarism> i got swap!
[05:40] <reisio> hi
[05:40] <Squarism> thanx man
[05:40] <reisio> gj
[05:40] <reisio> np homie
[05:40] <winchendonspring> Can someone tell me what repo the Firefox 8 update came from? I haven't seen it yet
[05:41] <adnap> i've installed xmonad and am trying to creating an xession which integrates gnome and xmonad. i've created an xmonad-gnome.desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions which references my xmonad.session file in /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions. however, when i tried to run this xsession, lightdm complains that it can't find the session "xmonad"
[05:42] <dr_willis> !ff
[05:43] <xangua> winchendonspring: if you don't use oneiric use fx ppa
[05:43] <xangua> !fx6
[05:44] <winchendonspring> xangua: I use oneiric
[05:45] <hilarie> Does anyone know how to use a BNC server for Xchat?
[05:45] <n2diy> Ok, I've been using linux for ten years, and it just occurred to me, that I don't know how to write a simple "Hello World" program!? In the old days I'd use Qbasic, but what do I use now, Bash?
[05:46] <hilarie> n2diy Python!
[05:46] <hilarie> python type it in terminal, then type print "hello world, Hilarie rocks"
[05:46] <n2diy> hilarie, is that part of the base install?
[05:46] <XaeroX252> Okay, I'm hoping to turn some heads here, but I'm working on getting Netflix support working on Ubuntu. I've made progress (I've managed to get a loading bar on the Instant watch screen, but it errors out) Enabling logging through chromium, I see this error directly related, and am asking here for ideas on how to correct it:
[05:46] <xangua> winchendonspring: then run the update manager and you will see fx8
[05:47] <hilarie> n2diy yep
[05:47] <xangua> or you already are using it
[05:47] <n2diy> hilarie, is it in the app. menus, or do I need to start it in the terminal?
[05:48] <XaeroX252> pepper_plugin_registry.cc(135) Unable to load plugin /opt/google/chrome/pepper/netflixplugin.so libssl.so.0.9.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:48] <hilarie> n2diy its a terminal thing, just type in python
[05:48] <dr_willis> XaeroX252:  native netflix support is comming sometime  'soon' i hear.
[05:48] <Resistance> n2diy, you need to open a terminal window and then type in "python" and hit enter
[05:48] <Amdpc> Hi ....How to shange Network name ???
[05:49] <XaeroX252> @drwillis: This is via the native netflix plugin from chromium, which shouldn't be much different from what we will be receiving.
[05:49] <dr_willis> !hostname
[05:49] <n2diy> hilarie, Resistance, cool, thanks.
[05:49] <dr_willis> !tab
[05:49] <XaeroX252> @drwillis: or rather, from chromeOS
[05:49] <Resistance> XaeroX252, to highlight someone, don't include the @
[05:50] <Resistance> XaeroX252, this is IRC, not StackOverflow chat ;P
[05:50] <XaeroX252> Resistance, sorry force of habit.
[05:50] <KM0201> i always thought @ in front of the name would work also.
[05:50] <Resistance> XaeroX252, i hear ya ;P
[05:50] <Resistance> KM0201, it sometimes works, but some clients dont read it as such
[05:50] <dr_willis> if he got the nick right...
[05:50] <KM0201> i see.
[05:50] <winchendonspring> xangua: I do not see firefox 8
[05:50] <XaeroX252> dr_willis true, would help if I just used autolinking for nicks.
[05:52] <xangua> !info firefox oneiric | winchendonspring
[05:53] <winchendonspring> xangua: hmm
[05:54] <XaeroX252> Oh wow, I can't believe I forgot about LDD, LDD netflixplugin.so reveals all of the missing dependencies, which are (on this current installation) a few open source utilities for video, and one driver that is clearly proprietary.. looks like I need to get in touch of a Chromebook owner to finish this one off.
[05:55] <XaeroX252> I almost can't believe that netflixplugin.so from a chromebook is a proper elf file.
[05:55] <Mitsukaru> i like elves.
[05:56] <mysticete> Just wanted to thank the guys that pointed me in the right direction for the ALSA config question.
[05:56] <mysticete> so thanks.  and later.
[05:56] <adnap> anyone know the answer to my problem of lightdm not loading .session files?
[05:57] <shoolem> What is the file that starts the screensaver daemon? I want to disable gnome-screensaver and enable xscreensaver
[05:58] <Mitsukaru> afaik gnome doesnt have screensavers anymore
[05:58] <Mitsukaru> so you can just install xscreensaver
[05:59] <sandman__> Hi, I get errors trying to use Gedit/Kate to open any file even under su http://pastebin.com/7PsNQuW2
[05:59] <shoolem> it does and I can't get rid of them.  installing xscreensaver does just that, but gnome SS is still installed and activated.
[06:00] <Mitsukaru> what happens when you just try to remove the package for gnome-screensaver?
[06:01] <shoolem> not sure I want to. my guess is there will be no ss active.  I've found sites that tell what the name of the startup file is, but they're not correct on my system
[06:02] <sandman__> Can someone help me? http://pastebin.com/7PsNQuW2
[06:03] <dr_willis> sandman__:  use gksudo for gui apps as root
[06:03] <sandman__> dr_willis: i tried same problem
[06:03] <dr_willis> error messages?
[06:03] <sandman__> GLib-GIO:ERROR:/build/buildd/glib2.0-2.28.6/./gio/gdbusconnection.c:2279:initable_init: assertion failed: (connection->initialization_error == NULL)
[06:03] <sandman__> Aborted
[06:03] <gioeas> hello, i mtrying to install ubuntu on a new internal hard drive which i just installed right now...and ubuntu is not detecting my new scorpio blue wd hard drive
[06:03] <gioeas> can someone help?
[06:04] <KM0201> not detecting it?
[06:04] <gioeas> yes
[06:04] <KM0201> is it sata?
[06:04] <gioeas> yes it is
[06:04] <KM0201> does windows detect it?
[06:04] <gioeas> i have not tried yet
[06:04] <gioeas> im trying to install ubuntu
[06:04] <KM0201> well, that would be the first thig i'd try (assuming you have windows)
[06:05] <dr_willis> does bios see it
[06:05] <sandman__> dr_willis: any idea what the error is?
[06:05] <KM0201> that to....
[06:05] <gioeas> dr willis: when i go to flash utility (bios)
[06:05] <i7> heh
[06:05] <gioeas> where do i see the hard drive?
[06:05]  * i7 pets new laptop
[06:05] <dr_willis> gioeas: nope
[06:06] <KM0201> gioeas: thats different on every BIOS, but just look through it , and you should find it.
[06:06] <gioeas> but basically where is it usually?
[06:06] <sandman__> The first command line press enter
[06:06] <gioeas> and thanks for being so cooperative
[06:06] <sandman__> usually
[06:06] <dr_willis> gioeas: in the hd setttings area. bioss vary
[06:06] <KM0201> gioeas: thats the problem, there is no "usual" place that it is, every BIOS is different, just start looking...
[06:07] <gioeas> ok
[06:07] <gioeas> thanks
[06:07] <sandman__> Anyone help me gksudo gives me error GLib-GIO:ERROR:/build/buildd/glib2.0-2.28.6/./gio/gdbusconnection.c:2279:initable_init: assertion failed: (connection->initialization_error == NULL)
[06:08] <emiru> how the hell do I put music on my iPod I dont get it
[06:09] <dr_willis> !ipod
[06:09] <emiru> thanks ubottu
[06:10] <heeeegua__> hi all....when i upgraded the ubuntu from 9.10 to 10.04,,the issue occurs...........it always reboot agian and agian,,,someone know why?
[06:11] <heeeegua__> hoping Warm-hearted man can help me
[06:11] <SmashingX> hello guys, does annybody know how can I set a path for a executable file, I mean every time I want to execute a file I don't have to go to the path and type the name of the file, just type it anywhere and it will execute?
[06:12] <dr_willis> SmashingX:  put it in your /home/username/bin
[06:13] <rumpe1> SmashingX, either add its directory to your $PATH-variable or link/copy/move it to a folder in your $PATH
[06:13] <dr_willis> a ln -s   link will work there
[06:13] <SmashingX> how can I add its directory to my path-variable?
[06:13] <heeeegua__> hi all....when i upgraded the ubuntu from 9.10 to 10.04,,the issue occurs...........it always reboot agian and agian,,,someone know why?
[06:14] <sandman__> Anyone help me gksudo/gedit/kate give me error GLib-GIO:ERROR:/build/buildd/glib2.0-2.28.6/./gio/gdbusconnection.c:2279:initable_init: assertion failed: (connection->initialization_error == NULL)
[06:15] <dr_willis> SmashingX:  linking it to bin/bunaryname is one way. or edit the .profile or .bashrc files
[06:15] <meadhikari> Any command line torrent client that i can compile the source code, please help
[06:15] <dr_willis> meadhikari: several. try rtottent
[06:15] <Mitsukaru> meadhikari: you want an open-source command-line torrent client?
[06:16] <Mitsukaru> rtorrent
[06:16] <meadhikari> Mitsukaru, yes and the source
[06:16] <meadhikari> where can i find the source code for rtorrent
[06:16] <dr_willis> transmission has a cli mode i thought
[06:16] <gr0uch`> can someone tell me... if you use an aircard does your ip show the original state you got the card in?? i know someone that claims to have an aircard in ca and hes in NV but the ip is CA..????
[06:16] <jordan> transmission has a cli mode (and a curses-based remote control)
[06:17] <jordan> you can get the source code for transmission from http://transmissionbt.com/download/
[06:17] <Mitsukaru> rtorrent is a curses interface for libtorrent
[06:17] <gr0uch`> anyone know ?? can the range be that far that they are in another state showing an ip or somewhere else without a bouncer?
[06:18] <Jordan_U> heeeegua__: What do you see before it reboots?
[06:18] <jordan> rtorrent's at http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/wiki/Download
[06:18] <dr_willis> whats an 'aircard'
[06:19] <gr0uch`> person claims there ip is from an aircard purchased in another state. just wondering if this is possible
[06:19] <gr0uch`> ive heard they use cell phone towers
[06:19] <Mitsukaru> gr0uch`: what are you, um, talking about?
[06:20] <gr0uch`> never heard of an aircard?
[06:21] <sharpK> what's the easiest way to get full mouse functionality in 11.10?
[06:21] <sharpK> ie rest of the buttons
[06:22] <dr_willis> gr0uch`:  if the thing uses a static ip bases on its mac. it could get assugned the same ip
[06:22] <gr0uch`> the ip is dynamic, not a proxy
[06:24] <luckyluke51> .quit
[06:25] <dr_willis> it could still get the ip based on mac untill the lease expires
[06:26] <pppurple> is there any one that would be will to help answer some basic questions for a begginer getting into ubuntu?
[06:26] <hilarie> pppurple ask away
[06:26] <dr_willis> pppurple: just ask and see
[06:27] <pppurple> whats the best way to install it and also have windows installed as a back up?
[06:27] <pawan_tejwani> ubuntu not booting after installation
[06:27] <KM0201> pppurple: set up a dual boot system
[06:28] <xangua> !dualboot | pppurple
[06:28] <pppurple> and you just choose your OS when you start your comp with a dual boot correct? i havent played with Dual boot stuff so im just trying to iron out my knowldege before i do something dumb
[06:28] <KM0201> yes
[06:29] <pawan_tejwani> do we have to make any changes in the BIOS to make ubuntu boot from separate HDD other than selecting the drive on which ubuntu has to be installed seperately as first boot drive
[06:29] <KM0201> pppurple: you will have to partition your drive though
[06:29] <pppurple> can you turn the notification off in IRC that tells who is joining and disconnecting? really kind annoying
[06:30] <KM0201> pppurple: probably, but that depends on your client
[06:30] <pppurple> hmmm k
[06:30] <Guest31920> What would be the best way to back up my files/programs if I were to do a clean install of an updated image?
[06:30] <Guest31920> would dd be ok for it?
[06:30] <pppurple> so i have a windows c: drive and a d: drive could i use the D drive for Ubuntu?
[06:30] <KM0201> yes
[06:32] <KM0201> pppurple: you would just have to "manually" install in order to do that.. but.. it's not hard.
[06:33] <pppurple> i feel dumb using IRC and getting ready to install a linux OS. how can i copy paste off this chat to open that like someone posted of how to Dual boot?
[06:33] <KM0201> pppurple: can i send you a private message?
[06:33] <pppurple> yes
[06:33] <Jordan_U> pppurple: Do you have multiple physical drives or multiple partitions on a single drive? (What Windows calls "drives" are actually partitions, which can be confusing).
[06:34] <pppurple> hmmm i understand the partition but im not sure if its 2 drives or a partition
[06:34] <KM0201> pppurple: look for a tab or something with my name on it, i just sent you a message.
[06:35] <jaddison> FYI, if anyone has trouble getting their RT2860 wifi chipset to work with Ubuntu 11.10 (server version for me) after a fresh install, disable IPv6 in /etc/network/interfaces.  Worked for me.
[06:35] <jaddison> Night all.
[06:35] <sharpK> what's the easiest way to get full mouse functionality in 11.10?
[06:37] <aruncn1> how can i change ubuntuone folder to different location ?
[06:41] <gnuskool> Any recommended sbs based on server ubuntu?
[06:43] <aruncn1> any ideas?
[06:43] <Huh> ?
[06:44] <sharpK> does anyone have their mouse buttons working in 11.10?
[06:44] <aruncn1> how can i change ubuntuone folder to different location ?
[06:44] <andyn> sharpK: yes, and they work very well indeed. mine has only two plus a clickable wheel, though.
[06:45] <sharpK> two as in left and right click?
[06:49] <Guest14097> hello
[06:50] <pppurple> http://www.google.com
[06:51] <Guest14097> i was needing some help with a sound problem on Ubuntu 11.10 who wants to help?
[06:55] <abhinav_singh> how do make cron job run for every 15 days ... is it okay 0 0 15 * *  command
[07:01] <Huh> abhinav_singh: hi deer
[07:01] <Huh> ne1 can help
[07:01] <somsip> !anyone | Huh
[07:06] <meadhikari> is there any command line torrent client except rtorrent and transmission, very small client
[07:07] <somsip> meadhikari: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_BitTorrent_clients
[07:07] <zykotick9> !info bittornado | meadhikari
[07:09] <meadhikari> ubottu, zykotick9 somsip  thanks for the info :)
[07:12] <zykotick9> !ubuntuone | aruncn1
[07:12] <aruncn1> ubottu: ty
[07:13] <pnorman> !botsnack
[07:27] <BluebirdShao> which software can view 'dwg' files for free?
[07:28] <BluebirdShao> guys?
[07:29] <tonyyarusso> BluebirdShao: Honestly, probably nothing.
[07:29] <Snicksie> BluebirdShao, it seems this program can do the job for you: http://lx-viewer.sourceforge.net/
[07:29] <Snicksie> but im not sure, i've never tried...
[07:30] <BluebirdShao> Snicksie: Thank you all the same.
[07:30] <BluebirdShao> Snicksie: I will take a try.
[07:32] <Snicksie> seems here's a list of autocad-like programs, some of them might support dwg files too: http://www.tech-edv.co.at/05_LUnIx/80_CAD~2f3d/10_CAD~20Links/index.php @ BluebirdShao
[07:40] <BluebirdShao> Snicksie: wonderful
[07:41] <zerofly> Hi guys.
[07:41] <zerofly> What tool do you use for python on Ubuntu?
[07:41] <kcm1700> I use vim & python
[07:42] <zerofly> kcm1700, you use vim coding with python?
[07:42] <kcm1700> yes
[07:42] <killown> I constantly get system panics - the scroll lock and caps lock keyboard lights flash and so I need reset the system in the case, do anyone have any idea how can I discover where is this error is from? I looked for dmesg and system logs and I can't find something useful
[07:43] <Math^> Hello, I've very very low sound when recording with recordmydesktop, tho all my sliders in the mixer are 100%, and a Skype testcall works good too... how can I fix this?
[07:44] <zerofly> Okey, kcm1700. Thanks!
[08:00] <LigH> Greetings.
[08:01] <LigH> Where can I find information about probably compatible models to not exactly supported printers?
[08:02] <tonyyarusso> LigH: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport is one place to look
[08:08] <LigH> tonyyarusso: Thanks, seems to be a bit more complex via Cupswrapper...
[08:16] <Captain_Crow> is it possible to get a virus on ubuntu or wine?
[08:16] <auronandace> !virus | Captain_Crow
[08:19] <Captain_Crow> that sounds confusing...
[08:24] <MrWGW> hey there; I accidentally deleted my /etc/fstab on an ubuntu 10.04 box which is currently running at a remote site; I do not have remote access to it
[08:24] <MrWGW> can I recover by replacing it with a copy of /etc/mtab?
[08:25] <MrWGW> to be precise I accidentally overwrote /etc/fstab with an incorrect one
[08:25] <MrWGW> deployment script accident...
[08:25] <dr_willis> MrWGW: check mount command output also
[08:26] <dr_willis> and mtab, and try to remake fstab.
[08:27] <iceroot> Captain_Crow: on both it is technical possible
[08:27] <dr_willis> make the script make backups in the future.
[08:27] <iceroot> Captain_Crow: but there is no need to worry on GNU/Linux about that topic. On wine it is possible, some viruses for windows also working there but normally not doing anything bad
[08:28] <Math^> Please, annoying can help me with Recordmydesktop? :)
[08:29] <Math^> I tried everything, but it's recording very very low sound
[08:30] <harsh343> how to delete particular folder on remote site through terminal
[08:31] <harsh343> path is on remote site /var/www/Dashboard_check
[08:31] <harsh343> deej1976, there ?
[08:31] <eHAPPY> is there any reason to not use x64 even though i only have 1GB of RAM?
[08:31] <gnome-xchat> hi harsh343
[08:31] <harsh343> hi
[08:31] <gnome-xchat> im new to ubuntu
[08:32] <gnome-xchat> :-)
[08:32] <MrWGW> dr_willis: the output of mount matches /etc/mtab
[08:33] <iceroot> eHAPPY: no
[08:33] <MrWGW> dr_willis: yeah this box isn't in production yet; I just inadvertantly hosed it as i was being incautious
[08:33] <iceroot> eHAPPY: if the cpu supports amd64, always use amd64
[08:33] <MrWGW> worst case scenario; I'll have to go out there
[08:33] <eHAPPY> thats what i figured :)
[08:33] <nhocht> how to learn Python?
[08:33] <eHAPPY> ty
[08:34] <harsh343> I want to delete my  Dashboard_check folder from remote site path is :-    /var/www/Dashboard_check
[08:34] <iceroot> nhocht: #python
[08:34] <harsh343> how it is possible through terminal I am using ubuntu 11.10
[08:34] <iceroot> harsh343: rm
[08:34] <dr_willis> nhocht:  read some books on it.
[08:35] <dr_willis> harsh343:  sudo rm /foo/bar
[08:35] <gnome-xchat> dr_willis, recommend any book?
[08:35] <dr_willis> !bash | harsh343
[08:36] <dr_willis> gnome-xchat: anything by ireilly. and without dummies or idiot in the title
[08:36] <dr_willis> oreilly
[08:36] <MrWGW> is it possible to view the UUID of a moutned partition by the way?
[08:36] <gnome-xchat> thanks
[08:37] <dr_willis> !!uuid
[08:37] <MrWGW> that said dr_willis I would assume that there's no problem if I use /dev/sd* in the /etc/fstab?   I have done this many times on other distros
[08:38] <MrWGW> the only problem would be of course if something occurred which changed the /dev/sd* address, like if sda became sdb
[08:38] <MrWGW> I would think, right?
[08:38] <soreau> MrWGW: It should still work by addressing it directly, yes
[08:38] <technokid> anyone knows alternative to wicd and gnome network manager
[08:39] <MrWGW> thanks soreau
[08:40] <harsh343> dr_willis, live:~# sudo rm /var/www/Dashboard_check
[08:40] <harsh343> rm: cannot remove `/var/www/Dashboard_check': Is a directory
[08:40] <soreau> technokid: iwconfig, wpa_supplicant, dhclient
[08:41] <harsh343> I want to remove only this folder Dashboard_check
[08:41] <nhocht> how to learn programming on ubuntu11.10?
[08:41] <technokid> thanks soreau i am having problems with ppp and i am using wvdial but network manager doesnt detect it
[08:41] <dr_willis> harsh343:  use rmdir fir a directory. and you should spwnd 30 min reading some bash tutorials
[08:42] <harsh343> ok
[08:42] <soreau> ! ppp | technokid
[08:42] <harsh343> dr_willis, rmdir: failed to remove `/var/www/Dashboard_check': Directory not empty
[08:42] <dr_willis> nhocht:  books in the bookstore barginbins. :-)
[08:42] <technokid> (usb 3g modems)and wicd has problem with connecting to wifi.
[08:43] <dr_willis> harsh343: nan rmdir  yse the recursive option
[08:43] <dr_willis> man rmdir
[08:43] <scarleo> Hi, I suddenly have a problem with Firefox not wanting to open but download .aspx generated HTML Text. If I choose to open with Firefox as default it creates a new tab in an endless loop 'til FF crashes
[08:43] <scarleo> The link works fine on another Ubuntu 11.10 PC with firefox
[08:44] <mohanr2222_1> hey guys.. i have a weird problem... I hav 2 computers.. One with wifi (and internet) and one without.. If both are connected through ethernet cable, is is it possible to get internet on the comp without wifi? if yes, how?
[08:44] <iceroot> !ics | mohanr2222_1
[08:44] <technokid> thanks ubottu
[08:45] <soreau> mohanr2222_1: You need a crossover cable in most cases and you would have to setup connection sharing
[08:45] <dr_willis> mohanr2222_1: a cheap router is handy also
[08:46] <mohanr2222_1> the one without wifi is a very old one..
[08:47] <soreau> dr_willis: also convenient to have some cat5/6, some RJ-45s, a crimper and a switch but not everyone has everything ;)
[08:47] <mohanr2222_1> i am trying to run xampp in it and use it as a local webserver
[08:48] <harsh343> dr_willis, sudo rmdir -R /var/www/Dashboard_check is this ok ?
[08:48] <mohanr2222_1> brb, my mouse froze again
[08:48] <Corey> dr_willis: That'll only blow out empty directories.
[08:49] <LigH> Greetings again.
[08:50] <harsh343> dr_willis, rm -rf /var/www/Dashboard_check ???
[08:51] <dr_willis> i always cd to the dir. and do rm -rf foo
[08:51] <dr_willis> a typo with sudo rm -rf can be bad
[08:52] <dr_willis> very bad
[08:52] <harsh343> dr_willis, which one i am using ?
[08:52] <LigH> My Update manager lists updateable Seamonkey packages, but they appear disabled, can't be checked. May I have to update manually?
[08:52] <dr_willis> if you do  / var/foi    see the space? it will delete your is
[08:52] <dr_willis> os
[08:53] <dr_willis> cd to the dir and dont use tge full path
[08:54] <dr_willis> cd foo
[08:54] <dr_willis> rm -rf bar
[08:55] <harsh343> dr_willis, can You please give me the command I do not want to take risk because (remove command can remove all data)
[08:55] <dr_willis> replace foo and bar above as needed
[08:56] <harsh343> ok
[08:57] <dr_willis> you could just move or rename the dir if you are worried about it
[08:57] <harsh343> dr_willis, live:/var/www#
[08:57] <harsh343> live:/var/www# sudo rm -rf Dashboard_check this is ok ?
[08:58] <dr_willis> if you made no typos ut looks oj
[08:58] <harsh343> ??
[08:59] <dr_willis> seriousseriously spend some time with a few bash tutorials.
[08:59] <harsh343> dr_willis, ok
[09:00] <dr_willis> its taken you 20 min for a 20 sec command
[09:01] <Administrator> hi
[09:02] <Guest32621> Hi,
[09:02] <Guest32621> Hi,
[09:02] <soreau> harsh343: Usually, I use ls /path/to/file_name to make sure its what I want before running any commands to change the file
[09:03] <harsh343> soreau, ok thats really Good
[09:06] <dr_willis> echo *.txt   or other regrexps to test pattern/wildcards also
[09:06] <harsh343> dr_willis, yes my command works
[09:07] <Captain_Crow> I downloaded "wubi" and tried to install it and im getting a "no disk" error and a new error pops up every time i click cancle
[09:07] <soreau> Captain_Crow: I would have to suggest trying a live session instead of wubi
[09:08] <soreau> but if you must..
[09:08] <soreau> ! wubi
[09:11] <harsh343> soreau, I want to copy a folder from my sytem to remote server I know cp -r command is used for that but hows from my local system to remote server
[09:11] <Captain_Crow> ubuntu looks confusing
[09:11] <soreau> harsh343: scp
[09:11] <llutz_> harsh343: scp -r
[09:11] <Captain_Crow> why are there different installation sizes?
[09:12] <soreau> ! scp | harsh343
[09:12] <soreau> Captain_Crow: What do you mean?
[09:12] <harsh343> soreau, why scp ?
[09:12] <Captain_Crow> for installing it asks for installation size 5GB-30GB
[09:13] <soreau> harsh343: Because you want to copy a file to another machine, presumably over a network
[09:13] <harsh343> ok
[09:13] <harsh343> is this ok ? scp -r /var/www/Dashboard_check /var/www/Dashboard_check
[09:13] <soreau> Captain_Crow: You can tell it how much to use
[09:13] <soreau> harsh343: no, that isnt specifying the destination target
[09:14] <harsh343> so hows ?
[09:14] <llutz_> harsh343: see ubottu and "man scp"
[09:14] <azatoth_work> Dunno if it's a problem or not, bug when I'm trying to update the kernel atm, it's been stuck on "run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/dkms 3.0.0-14-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-14-generic" for minutes now; the process "/sbin/depmod -a 3.0.0-14-generic -F /boot/System.map-3.0.0-14-generic" is constantly eating 50% of one core.
[09:14] <azatoth_work> but*
[09:14] <soreau> harsh343: For example, scp /path/to/file_name user@192.168.1.105:/path/to/destination/folder/
[09:15] <Captain_Crow> soreau what is the advantage of installing the 30GB version of the 5GB version?
[09:15] <Captain_Crow>  over* the 5GB version
[09:15] <soreau> Captain_Crow: Its not different versions, its just telling how much hard drive space to allocate
[09:15] <azatoth_work> can I kill the process, or will my system go totally broken then?
[09:16] <Captain_Crow> that sounds confusing
[09:16] <soreau> Captain_Crow: The default install is well under 5GB, 15GB should be enough to try it, 30GB should last for plenty of time if you arent populating the drive with exceedingly large files
[09:16] <azatoth_work> core == CPU core
[09:16] <Guest32621> Hi,
[09:17] <Captain_Crow> i need to have a second harddrive?
[09:17] <soreau> Captain_Crow: no
[09:18] <soreau> azatoth_work: If you have given it a considerable amount of time and it really us stuck, you can kill it and try running it again..
[09:18] <dr_willis> a hard drive can be partitioned Captain_Crow
[09:18] <Captain_Crow> so installing it partitions the drive?
[09:18] <azatoth_work> soreau, I'll try
[09:18] <azatoth_work> (it's still stuck)
[09:19] <dr_willis> Captain_Crow:  a normal install. yes.. wubi. no
[09:19] <soreau> Captain_Crow: Partitioning is a way to separate a hard drive into parts, for installing multiple different operating systems for example
[09:19] <soreau> Captain_Crow: wubi does some magic that basically puts the install on your windows ntfs file system. This is slower and can suffer from a variety of other issues
[09:19] <llutz_> Captain_Crow: wubi will create one big file on your windows-fs as an container for the linux-installation
[09:19] <dr_willis> Captain_Crow: you could try it out in virtualbox to learn about ut
[09:19] <Captain_Crow> i just want to sample ubuntu to see how it works, i thought wubi made ubuntu run in a window like a program?
[09:20] <faLUCE> hi, Is there an easy way to change the name of a user and therefore his home directory ?
[09:20] <soreau> Captain_Crow: No, for that you want virtual box
[09:20] <dr_willis> Captain_Crow:  not IN a window
[09:20] <dr_willis> vbox does that :-)
[09:20] <harsh343> soreau, but it also takes alots of time to copy
[09:21] <soreau> harsh343: Is that a random comment or are you making some statement leading to a point?
[09:21] <harsh343> is is only a comment like filezilla
[09:22] <harsh343> it also take time to copy
[09:22] <rohitmobme> hii!!! how can i 'mv' files created today to a different directory ..( any single line command for the same)
[09:22] <Captain_Crow> what is the difference between ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, and mythbuntu?
[09:22] <llutz_> rohitmobme: find path/ -mtime -1d -exec mv .....
[09:22] <iceroot> Captain_Crow: the preinstalled desktop-packages
[09:23] <iceroot> Captain_Crow: kubuntu = kde4, xubuntu = xfce4, ubuntu = gnome3/unity, mythbuntu = mythtv + gnome
[09:23] <soreau> harsh343: It takes time to do anything which is the very basis of how the world works
[09:23] <Captain_Crow> i dont know what those are
[09:23] <harsh343> soreau, ok
[09:24] <rohitmobme> llutz_ thanks
[09:24] <Captain_Crow> does it make the desktop look different or something?
[09:24] <llutz_> rohitmobme: "man find" for correct options
[09:24] <dr_willis> time to research a bit.. or just use ubuntu
[09:24] <dr_willis> !kde
[09:24] <soreau> llutz: nice
[09:25] <Captain_Crow> which version is the best?
[09:25] <soreau> Captain_Crow: Yes, the desktop environment is a set of programs that work together
[09:25] <soreau> ! best
[09:26] <Captain_Crow> I just don't know which one to install :/
[09:26] <soreau> Captain_Crow: virtualbox is probably the easiest way to try ubuntu in a window.. on windows. Search youtube to see the different desktop environments in action
[09:26] <rohitmobme> llutz_ : yeah.... i m looking out for it...hope i can find smthing to 'mv' all the files created on a specified date
[09:27] <Captain_Crow> i dont know what they are for though
[09:27] <llutz_> rohitmobme:   like :  find path/ -type f -mtime -1 -exec mv "{}" target/ \;
[09:28] <soreau> Captain_Crow: For example, kde is a bit heavier (uses more cpu and takes more hard drive space) but could be considered prettier and more user friendly while xfce is lighter (uses less cpu and hard drive space) but could be considered more rudimentary and basic
[09:28] <StryKaizer> I'm looking for a crossplatform password manager.  Using keepassx atm, but investing if there's a more powerfull option
[09:28] <hda1> Hi, can i create new user without login? Something like as adduser bla -s /bin/nologin
[09:28] <soreau> Captain_Crow: gnome typically is a happy medium and is the default for the official ubuntu distribution of linux
[09:29] <faLUCE> hi, Is there an easy way to change the name of a user and therefore his home directory ?
[09:29] <llutz_> hda1: using "useradd" you can
[09:30] <llutz_> hda1 adduser also has --shell  option
[09:30] <Captain_Crow> i'll just install it and see what happens i guess
[09:31] <soreau> Captain_Crow: Good idea. Also you can search youtube for videos
[09:32] <soreau> faLUCE: It might be easiest to create a new user and copy the contents of $HOME before deleting the old user
[09:32] <faLUCE> soreau: I see but what about hidden files? can I copy them too?
[09:33] <X99> Hi
[09:33] <soreau> faLUCE: yes, you could do something like this while logged in as the new user: cp -r /home/old_user $HOME && chown -R $USER $HOME
[09:33] <llutz_> faLUCE: cp -ax old new/          make sure new user is member of the same groups as the old one
[09:34] <soreau> faLUCE: yea -a might be better since it copies ALL
[09:34] <Yanch0> guys im having problems on a newly installed mythubuntu - should i ask a question about video problems here on on mythv?
[09:34] <llutz_> -a = archive, not all
[09:34] <soreau> oh woops..
[09:34] <faLUCE> llutz_: and -ax ?
[09:35]  * soreau goes to bang his head against a man page
[09:35] <llutz_> soreau: and btw, newuser cannot chown, only owner+root can
[09:35] <soreau> llutz: yea, I figured he would figure that out eventually
[09:35] <llutz_> faLUCE: copies only one filesystem if you have different fs mounted in your home
[09:35] <faLUCE> thnks
[09:36] <andrew_46> Yanch0: what sort of video problems?
[09:36] <Yanch0>  on first boot (in live cd it was ok) just after posting, i get a lot of green bars and funny stuff on the monitor for a couple of seconds (Say 30) then the screen goes black- hard disk seems to be still active for another minute or so. any ideas what to look at pls ?
[09:37] <hda1> Hi, can i create new user without login in ubuntu? Somethin like adduser bla -s /bin/nologin
[09:37] <soreau> faLUCE: cp --help
[09:37] <llutz_> hda1 adduser  has --shell  option
[09:38] <soreau> Yanch0: sounds like possible missing firmware. Anything in dmesg?
[09:38] <hda1> llutz Yes, i know, but i cannot find nologin
[09:38] <llutz_> hda1: "which nologin"
[09:39] <llutz_> hda1: its a command, not a question
[09:39] <Yanch0> soreau, can't even do ctrl + alt + f1
[09:39] <soreau> Yanch0: Try booting with nomodeset. What gpu is it?
[09:39] <llutz_> hda1: /usr/sbin/nologin here on 10.10
[09:40] <phlak_user> hda1, also on 11.10
[09:41] <hda1> llutz yes. 10x to u. Super.
[09:41] <Yanch0> soreau, good thing is that ssh works
[09:41] <moose-machine> hi. i have been struggling with this for a while. does anyone know how to change the dvd region code of the computer once all the user-initiated change options are exhausted through ubuntu?
[09:41] <Yanch0> http://pastebin.com/ZPFCzHep no errors here
[09:42] <hda1> bye
[09:42] <soreau> Yanch0: Right, so ssh in and review dmesg
[09:42] <dr_willis> moose-machine:  i thought it was the dvd drive that had regions.
[09:43] <soreau> Yanch0: What gpu (lspci|grep VGA) and what version of ubuntu?
[09:43] <moose-machine> dr_willis: yes that is right.
[09:43] <dva_> hello!
[09:43] <moose-machine> dr_willis: any clue if it can be reset via ubuntu?
[09:43] <dr_willis> moose-machine:  you are allowed so many changes then it locks i recall
[09:44] <moose-machine> dr_willis: ouch
[09:44] <dr_willis> moose-machine:  i just image my dvds and never need to change the drives region
[09:44] <moose-machine> dr_willis: so the only option is to take it to a technician?
[09:44] <dr_willis> some apps may ignore the region.
[09:45] <moose-machine> dr_willis: i see. i am trying to help a friend out. i thought that installing ubuntu in his laptop would circumvent the problem
[09:45] <dr_willis> he changed his region a lot?
[09:45] <llutz_> moose-machine: you also want to google for alternative firmwares (regionfree) for that drive
[09:45] <moose-machine> dr_willis: i think he bought a second hand one, so the previous owner may have done his bit
[09:46] <moose-machine> llutz: thanks. but i am sorry i didn't understand the meaning of 'alternative firmware'.
[09:46] <dr_willis> vlc i think can bypass it
[09:47] <moose-machine> dr_willis: that is the first one i tried but it doesn't play. however it does play dvds from the currently set region
[09:47] <stix> Hi guys. I can set a title on my Terminal tabs/windows with this command: export PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -ne "\033]0;"TITLE"\007"' - but everytime I put the command into a script, it doesn't work. Why's that?
[09:48] <tsdead> i have problem with skype and sound
[09:48] <andyn> well, i guess that no prompt gets drawn inside a script.
[09:49] <moose-machine> i installed regionset; however it tells me that there are 4 vendor resets available; but 0 user controlled changes available on this dvd drive
[09:51] <dr_willis> stix:  export the variable and source the script. dont run it
[09:51] <dr_willis> stix:   source setmyprompt.sh
[09:52] <stix> dr_willis: can I do it within a script?
[09:52] <dr_willis> see bash prompt howto
[09:52] <stix> okay
[09:53] <Yanch0> soreau,  01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV31 [GeForce FX 5600] (rev a1) || Ubuntu 11.10 (GNU/Linux 3.0.0-12-generic i686)
[09:53] <dr_willis> a child process does not change the parrent thatway
[09:53] <dr_willis> but the stuff in your.   .bashrc :-)
[09:54] <dr_willis> !prompt
[09:54] <dr_willis> bbl
[10:04] <Yanch0> soreau, : http://pastebin.com/iVpX7wxt all my dmesg - i even did upgrade all m packages in the false hope it works
[10:08] <freakynl> hi, having an issue with 11.04 live. On most computers it runs just fine, but now I have one where I see a gdm logon prompt (it should automatically log on) with an automatic login thingy, but clicking that immediately returns me to the logon prompt again
[10:08] <freakynl> any way to bypass it? Just need to secure some files on the computer before reinstalling it
[10:09] <linuxuz3r> is it gdm or plymouth
[10:09] <freakynl> I don't know, looks like gdm, dunno plymouth tho'
[10:09] <linuxuz3r> freakynl: try deleting your stuff in the home directory
[10:09] <linuxuz3r> its a settings problem most likely
[10:10] <freakynl> no it's gdm
[10:10] <freakynl> it works fine on other computers, kinda hard throwing stuff away since I can't get it, doesn't appear to have consoles either (ctrl+alt+F[1-6] don't show logon prompts)
[10:10] <tero> what filesystem should i use on a external usb hdd that i can read and write in ubuntu, windows and osx? i have a lot of large video files
[10:11] <freakynl> s/get it/get in/
[10:11] <llutz_> tero: ntfs (not sure about os x)
[10:11] <freakynl> tero: you're screwed
[10:11] <freakynl> osx has no ntfs afaik
[10:11] <linuxuz3r> fat32
[10:11] <jatt> ext3
[10:11] <freakynl> has a 4G file limit
[10:11] <llutz_> fat32 has 4gb filesize limit
[10:11] <harsh343> soreau, there ?
[10:12] <jatt> fuse
[10:12] <soreau> harsh343: nope
[10:12] <harsh343> soreau, ok
[10:13] <Anomie211> Being trying to fix this problem for days, anyone want to have a bash? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11495280
[10:13] <harsh343> soreau, here is my problem http://pastebin.com/SqcDrHec
[10:13] <scarleo> Hi, I suddenly have a problem with Firefox not wanting to open but download .aspx generated HTML Text. If I choose to open with Firefox as default it creates a new tab in an endless loop 'til FF crashes
[10:13] <scarleo> How can I fix it?
[10:15] <llutz_> tero: freakynl snowleopard can read ntfs and has a hidden write-function for ntfs, so it should be the fs to go
[10:15] <tero> hidden write-function...
[10:15] <tero> hmm
[10:15] <freakynl> sorry dunno iphone (and hate apple, they're worse than ms). My android can just turn into a wireless access point to share the internet, seems much easier to me... not sure if there are iphone thingies to do the same (doubt it since apple is a serious dictator when it comes to this kind of access)
[10:15] <tero> i don't like the sound of that
[10:15] <tero> :)
[10:15] <llutz_> tero: not officially supported
[10:15] <harsh343> soreau, I think i have to change the permissions
[10:16] <soreau> harsh343: I have no idea
[10:16] <freakynl> tero: it's your only option then... unless you wanna go ext2 or something and install really old ext2 drivers on your windows pc's
[10:16] <llutz_> tero: http://goo.gl/rGYA
[10:17] <harsh343> soreau, are you angree with me ?
[10:17] <soreau> harsh343: I'm telling you I have no idea what you have wrong there
[10:17] <soreau> harsh343: I don't even really know what you're trying to do exactly
[10:18] <harsh343> soreau, i just copy and paste all my data folder in to remote site or nothing else
[10:18] <harsh343> in my localhost it works fine
[10:19] <vagothcpp> hey, I just install xubuntu to my old laptop using a USB as my hdd (no harddrive in laptop), now in firefox I was unable to open an xhtml/xml website, is there something I need to install?
[10:20] <harsh343> vagothcpp, try on chrome
[10:20] <vagothcpp> harsh343, I would like to be using firefox
[10:21] <harsh343> ok
[10:22] <Timewarper> hey
[10:22] <vagothcpp> so is it possibly a missing library or firefox as a cause?
[10:22] <harsh343> soreau, see in line no 14 permissions to www-data but in line no. 12 only for root permissions how can i give the same permissions
[10:22] <Timewarper> i try to run a program from console as another user and i get this error: su - normal -c xchat
[10:22] <Timewarper> No protocol specified
[10:22] <Timewarper> (xchat:3823): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0
[10:23] <harsh343> vagothcpp, update firefox
[10:23] <Yanch0> soreau, any other idea please?
[10:23] <vagothcpp> im install chrome to see if it is firefox and my firefox is up-to-date
[10:24] <freakynl> is it xhtml or xml... firefox does not seem to give any error whatsoever if the xslt conversion from xml to xhmtl/html has issues (does not validate) and just shows a blank page then
[10:24] <Wanguard> How to tether a feature phone in natty
[10:24] <freakynl> also, if it's an external site, can you give the url? Then we can see if it loads here
[10:25] <harsh343> vagothcpp, ask on #firefox
[10:26] <harsh343> soreau, how can i change the permissions
[10:26] <n4dsp> Sometimes when I send an email my Evolution crashes. This is happening twice per day. It has worked well for months but now I have this problem. Anyone know what could be causing?
[10:27] <vagothcpp> I know little about chrome but would it perform better on a low ram old laptop running from a usb disk better than firefox?
[10:27] <harsh343> dr_willis, there ?
[10:28] <harsh343> deej1976, Hello
[10:33] <deej1976> harsh343: I'm here, but I can't help with your problem.
[10:34] <harsh343> deej1976, hi here is my question http://pastebin.com/0Ha4b5ru
[10:34] <freakynl> vagothcpp: it might, firefox is becoming bloated in rapid pace
[10:34] <Anomie211> Does anyone know a way to install build-essentials or linux-source without an direct internet connection? (I can still download via this PC and move via USB)
[10:34] <freakynl> Anomie211: yea download the files and run dpkg -i <filename>
[10:35] <deej1976> chown -R www-data:root Dashboard_check
[10:35] <deej1976> harsh343: chown -R www-data:root Dashboard_check
[10:35] <Anomie211> freakynl: I can't find the files anywhere and when I was in here the other day most people reckoned they wouldnt be available online.
[10:36] <Anomie211> freaknyl: All that I could find were 'meta-packages' apparently, which just gave instructions on where to download from...
[10:37] <freakynl> Anomie211: read them then, not that familiar with ubuntu, I use the live version quite often but run gentoo myself
[10:37] <almoxarife> is it possible to sync google calendar to evolutions calendar?
[10:37] <Anomie211> freakynl: Wha? read what?
[10:37] <acibademli_74> hello!
[10:37] <freakynl> or browse this: ftp://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/os/linux/ubuntu/pool/
[10:38] <freakynl> Anomie211: the meta files, if they contain links, get the links from em :)
[10:38] <Anomie211> freakynl: I think you've misunderstood 'instructions'
[10:38] <acibademli_74> hello!
[10:38] <freakynl> Anomie211: I think you're missing the fact I don't get paid for this
[10:39] <Anomie211> freakynl: no wonder, you arent very good.
[10:39] <freakynl> Anomie211: welcome to ignore list
[10:39] <inashdeen> hi is there a good gui for ffmpeg to record esktop
[10:39] <acibademli_74> is there any application for linux which can make a burn(write) operation to the cd(or dvd) which is even rurned CD-R (or DVD-R) (even to damage the datas)?
[10:39] <oCean> !offline | Anomie211
[10:40] <harsh343> deej1976, I am able to change the permissions but my problem not solved http://pastebin.com/6UKdV1hT
[10:40] <Anomie211> Thank you oCean
[10:40] <harsh343> it works fine on my localhost
[10:41] <Anomie211> I just found a post online saying that build-essentials is on the install CD and that you can install it from there. This is from 2008 though does it still hold true? https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/build-essential/+question/49690
[10:43] <geirha> Anomie211: It doesn't look like the 11.10 desktop iso has it
[10:43] <Anomie211> geirha: Ah, ok thanks
[10:44] <geirha> Anomie211: The live session may have it installed though. I didn't check for that.
[10:45] <acibademli_74> is there any application for linux which can make a burn(write) operation to the cd(or dvd) which is even rurned CD-R (or DVD-R) (even to damage the datas)?
[10:46] <Anomie211> Am I doing this correct? It's returning no search results... http://i.imgur.com/zhxRI.png
[10:46] <geirha> acibademli_74: huh?
[10:46] <geirha> Anomie211: Without the plural s iirc
[10:47] <acibademli_74> geirha: as you heard. to do not look if exist a data on CD (or DVD).
[10:47] <Anomie211> geirha: thanks!
[10:47] <phlak_user> !info build-essential | geirha
[10:48] <skilz> kHow do I permanently disable caps lock and num lock?
[10:48] <Anomie211> It spat out this URL http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/build-essential/build-essential_11.5ubuntu1_i386.deb   -- but it's only 5Kb? does that seem right?
[10:48] <geirha> acibademli_74: I don't know. A CD-R disc is only designed to be burned once. I don't know of any application that would allow you to burn the same part of the CD-R again.
[10:48] <andyn> skilz: by .Xmodmapping. at least it works for caps lock. lemme show you.
[10:48] <phlak_user> Anomie211, thats cos its a meta package; it will download a whole bunch of other packages
[10:48] <joseph_> hi guys
[10:49] <Anomie211> phlak_user: But I don't have internet :( I need the full package
[10:49] <acibademli_74> geirha: OK. thanks anyway.
[10:49] <freakynl> acibademli_74: if you want to make the data inaccessible just bend the cd a couple of times and it will shatter into thousands of pieces
[10:49] <phlak_user> Anomie211, if its in the component main, it should be on the DVD?
[10:49] <andyn> skilz: gedit ~/.Xmodmap and paste in this http://pastie.org/2932575
[10:50] <andyn> skilz: it gets loaded when you login; alternatively you can run xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap
[10:50] <joseph_> I would like to get  some informations on how to monitor samba on my linux box
[10:50] <Anomie211> phlak_user: The DVD? You mean the install CD? Someone just said in here that it wasnt included on that..
[10:50] <geirha> Anomie211: DVD != CD
[10:50] <joseph_> I would like to meseare the traffic and data volume passed over a week on my box
[10:50] <phlak_user> Anomie211, you should search for it on the DVD
[10:50] <acibademli_74>  freakynl: i need to damage cd without a physical damages when you look it from outside ( with your eyes ).
[10:51] <Anomie211> What DVD?
[10:52] <geirha> Anomie211: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#dvd
[10:52] <Anomie211> geirha: ty
[10:52] <phlak_user> acibademli_74, scratch with a pin/needle
[10:53] <Anomie211> This the correct one?  ubuntu-11.10-preinstalled-desktop-armel+omap4.img.gz
[10:56] <acibademli_74>  phlak_user: the person which looks the CD (or DVD) from outside (with his eyes) must not understand if i damage the CD (or DVD). if i scratch the other people can understand if i damage the CD (or DVD).
[10:56] <skilz> Okay that disabled caps lock now what about num lock?
[10:57] <bsec_> how to install Chinese fonts?
[10:57] <phlak_user> acibademli_74, is this an academic question?
[10:57] <phlak_user> Anomie211, that is an image for OMAP boards
[10:58] <Anomie211> Ah, I think I've got the right one now [ubuntu-11.10-dvd-i386.iso    ]
[11:00] <Captain_Crow> hello
[11:01] <acibademli_74>  phlak_user: yes. we have all documants about out discuss. we need to make sure also if we can do this operation with an application (i think it must as root or something).
[11:01] <phlak_user> Anomie211, also look at this -> http://keryxproject.org/
[11:01] <soreau> ! who | skilz
[11:01] <Captain_Crow> so if i burn ubuntu onto a cd i can boot from the disk w/o installing it or something?
[11:02] <phlak_user> acibademli_74, whats the Ubuntu support question here? you want to physically deface a CD
[11:02] <skilz> andyl,
[11:02] <skilz> andyn
[11:02] <soreau> Captain_Crow: Yes, it runs in memory without modifying your system. Its called a live session
[11:02] <andyn> skilz: yes?
[11:02] <skilz> Okay that disabled caps lock now what about num lock?
[11:03] <acibademli_74> phlak_user: i did not ask this. i ask how to do with an application or it is possible to do with applcation? so someone(user here) write me do this. i told him that not with phisical damage! what the problem here...
[11:03] <soreau> skilz: Better to do nickname: message here, so they get highlighted
[11:03] <andyn> skilz: http://superuser.com/questions/71630/numlock-is-completely-useless-and-i-want-to-disable-it-completely-on-linux
[11:03] <acibademli_74> phlak_user: ı ask ubuntu supoort if there is program which works ass root to do this operation. android as root supports officially many bad thinks. what is the problem...
[11:03] <deej1976> harsh343: Have you tried placing simple test.html files in the directory structure to see where the problem starts this could indicate the directory that needs fixing.
[11:05] <engammalsko> How do I install the classic gnome shell in 11.10?
[11:05] <engammalsko> Like the one in 10.10
[11:05] <Anomie211> phlak_user: woo, looks promising.
[11:06] <pangolin> !notunity | engammalsko
[11:06] <Captain_Crow> i installed isorecorder so i can burn ubuntu, but i dont see any icons to open isorecorder
[11:07] <engammalsko> So I shall install gnome-shell, gnome-tweak-tool and gnome-panel?
[11:07] <ne2k> how can I set a USB audio device as the default pulseaudio output device? every time I hibernate and wake up, it reverts to the onboard one
[11:08] <freakynl> Captain_Crow: you might want to have a look at brasero
[11:09] <freakynl> Captain_Crow: or k3b if ubuntu has it
[11:09] <Anomie211> phlak_user: maybe not, lol ; http://i.imgur.com/anF5X.png
[11:09] <unomi> Hiyas - I am seeing somewhat poor performance copying files between 2 11.04 computers I was getting ~600kbs
[11:10] <rumpe1> unomi, which kind of connection? from which filesystem to which filesystem?
[11:11] <unomi> after setting netbios name and ensuring that they are mounted via 'cifs' I am now seeing ~1.2 mb/s which is still alot slower than I think it should be
[11:11] <unomi> rumpe1: at these speeds the filesystem doesn't matter, the connection is wifi though
[11:12] <ne2k> unomi: adhoc or infrastructure?
[11:12] <unomi> there is an infrastructure router between them
[11:12] <ne2k> unomi: btw, kbs is not a measure of transfer rate
[11:12] <UnrealPancake> Hello. I Have a 64 bit computer with Windows 7 and Ubuntu Dual Booted. Would It be a bad Idea to add Kubuntu as well?
[11:12] <UnrealPancake> Laptop*
[11:12] <unomi> ne2k: sure.
[11:12] <ne2k> unomi: access point in between? or is it really going through a router?
[11:14] <unomi> ne2k: I couldn't tell you tbh, they are close enough that they could talk directly - but they are both being served by a wifi router that gives them their IP
[11:14] <hittt> Is there any good program for real time beat detection?
[11:14] <phlak_user> Anomie211, shows up properly in my browser
[11:14] <ne2k> unomi: what is the wifi data rate reported by each?
[11:14] <ne2k> unomi: they can't talk directly if it's infrastructure; but obviously they share a channel so only one can talk at once
[11:15] <phlak_user> unomi, youll get better performance with 802.11n on router, and both laptops (around 150 Mb/s)
[11:15] <unomi> 1. Bit Rate=54 Mb/s   Tx-Power=20 dBm  Link Quality=42/70  Signal level=-68 dBm
[11:15] <ne2k> can people please stop calling access points "routers"?
[11:15] <unomi> 2. Bit Rate=54 Mb/s   Tx-Power:24 dBm  Link Quality=5/5  Signal level=-45 dBm  Noise level=-96 dBm
[11:16] <Anomie211> phlak_user: I dont think the program works in 11.10
[11:16] <phlak_user> Anomie211, which one?
[11:16] <andyn> since most of them feature SNAT, i think calling them routers is appropriate.
[11:16] <UnrealPancake> ?
[11:17] <Anomie211> Keryx
[11:17] <unomi> ne2k: waiting for a transfer to finish up, then I'll try to look at rates for other transports
[11:17] <deej1976> UnrealPancake: Just install the kubuntu-desktop and select session when logging.
[11:17] <phlak_user> Anomie211, oh yes, its been tested on 10.04 and 10.10 as per the website
[11:17] <UnrealPancake> deej1976: But will Ubuntu, Kubuntu, or Windows 7 interfere with each other?
[11:17] <Anomie211> phlak_user: yeah but I'm on 11.10, not 10.10
[11:18] <sattu94> UnrealPancake: no.
[11:18] <Anomie211> There's a work-around to get it working on 11.04, but nothing for 11.10
[11:18] <UnrealPancake> so its completely safe to dual boot all three OS's? sattu94
[11:18] <ne2k> unomi: with 54Mb/s, you can expect to get about 15Mb/s of real throughput. this is obviously shared between them, though, as they are on the same channel, so 7.5Mb/s would be a maximum for end-to-end
[11:18] <phlak_user> ne2k, if you buy a router and use it as an AP it still is a router; also most home users buy wifi routers not APs (which enterprises do)
[11:19] <sattu94> UnrealPancake: yes, actually i would suggest using ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop on the same base ubuntu, and another win7.
[11:19] <engammalsko> !notunity
[11:19] <engammalsko> !notunity
[11:19] <ne2k> unomi: a general rule of thumb is that with TCP transfer, on a 10Mb/s link you get about 1MB/s of throughput. so on your 7.5Mb/s link, I would expect about 750kB/s of actual data transfer
[11:19] <deej1976> UnrealPancake: You would only need to dual boot two, as kubuntu-desktop would be installed on the same ubuntu install. just select the KDE version you want when logging in.
[11:20] <phlak_user> unomi, best way to check is by running iperf between the two laptops
[11:20] <phlak_user> !info iperf | unomi
[11:21] <UnrealPancake> sattu94: deej1976: so I should just install Kubuntu how?
[11:21] <phlak_user> UnrealPancake, can you not just install the kde-desktop on your existing ubuntu installation?
[11:21] <deej1976> Yes, in a terminal type: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:21] <pax> I installed kernel 3.2.* and now I can't remove it, its not listed in dpkg but comes up in grub and I can load ubuntu just fine except that lots of my hardware doesn't work.
[11:21] <ne2k> phlak_user: no, incorrect. a "wifi router" as you put it is a Wi-Fi access point and a router in the same box. two stations connected to the access point and transferring data between themselves are not "going through the router", they are going through the access point
[11:21] <pax> is it fine to just remove the kernal image from /boot/ and update grub ?
[11:22] <phlak_user> ne2k, and it might not happen if you enable client isolation :)
[11:22] <UnrealPancake> phlak_user: to be completely honest, Im not all that familliar with Linux.
[11:22] <ne2k> phlak_user: enable client isolation, or disable "forwarding", or whatever a given manufacturer calls it, yes
[11:22] <phlak_user> UnrealPancake, oh ok, just do what deej1976 told you
[11:22] <UnrealPancake> My friend uses my ubuntu dual boot and I use my Win7. he suggested I try Kubuntu
[11:23] <UnrealPancake> phlak_user: deej1976: Could you try and walk me through it?
[11:23] <sattu94> UnrealPancake: Ubuntu is a Base, ubuntu,kubuntu,xubuntu all run on base ubuntu with different GUI, so u can have all 3 on the same base ubuntu installation, you can select between them while logging in.
[11:23] <phlak_user> UnrealPancake, kubuntu has a different window manager called KDE as against GNOME used by standard Ubuntu; and they can both live in the same distribution
[11:24] <ne2k> andyn: my issue was never with calling the router bit a router -- of course it's a router. my issue is with not distinguishing between the router and the AP
[11:24]  * Captain_Crow thinks there are too many different ubuntu types
[11:24]  * sattu94 laughs...
[11:24] <ne2k> the thing that most people in the UK have in their house is an ADSL modem/router/access point
[11:24] <UnrealPancake> sattu94: is that why when I start my computer I get the purpleish screen with different choices to boot to?
[11:25] <sattu94> UnrealPancake: no. that allows you to select between Operating systems.
[11:25] <ne2k> sometimes with a switch thrown in for good measure too
[11:25] <sattu94> UnrealPancake: that is, win7 or ubuntu,
[11:25] <deej1976> Captain_Crow: I want to see an O'buntu ( best on openbox :D ), e17buntu ( best on guess what e17 :D ) choice is good
[11:25] <sattu94> UnrealPancake: and it's called Grub.
[11:25] <UnrealPancake> oh alright
[11:25] <pax> exit
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> deej1976: you can make it using remastersys
[11:25] <phlak_user> UnrealPancake, in other words, a Boot Loader
[11:26] <deej1976> UnrealPancake: From the start open an terminal in ubuntu
[11:26] <unomi> phlak_user:  0.0-10.2 sec  10.1 MBytes  8.35 Mbits/sec - so it looks like cifs is hitting that pretty well
[11:26] <Captain_Crow> I still think its confusing...
[11:26] <UnrealPancake> Im boted as Win7 ATM
[11:26] <deej1976> ActionParsnip: I know
[11:26] <phlak_user> unomi, so thats good, you have established that the wifi medium is not the bottleneck
[11:27] <UnrealPancake> booted*
[11:27] <sattu94> UnrealPancake: after you select ubuntu from grub menu, you will get a login screen from which you can select between ubuntu(unity),ubuntu-classic(gnome3) etc.. if u install Kubuntu-desktop, here you can also get option for selecting kubuntu desktop..
[11:27] <UnrealPancake> really? I never knew that.
[11:27] <unomi> phlak_user: hmm? isn't iperf showing the same throughput as Samba? ~ 1 mb/s
[11:27] <UnrealPancake> so r u saying that I already have Kubuntu installed?
[11:28] <sattu94> UnrealPancake: Effectively you dont need to restart ubuntu as a whole to switch between unity,gnome,kde,xfce,lxde...et al..
[11:28] <ne2k> unomi: 8.35Mb/s is comparable to the 7.5Mb/s I suggested you would get
[11:28] <sattu94> UnrealPancake: If you have it installed.
[11:28] <phlak_user> unomi, nope; iperf just shows you raw throughput without application overhead
[11:28] <Captain_Crow> can ubuntu run dx11 games?
[11:28] <ne2k> unomi: you really have to use m, M, b and B correctly when talking about this stuff
[11:28] <unomi> ne2k: sure, are you?
[11:29] <UnrealPancake> sattu94: I only (as far as I know) have Ubuntu installed. do I need to download Kubuntu, install it and then I can choose between the 2 distributions anytime I want?
[11:29] <ne2k> unomi: errm, yes
[11:29] <phlak_user> ne2k, he is reporting exactly what iperf gave
[11:29]  * Captain_Crow wants to play battlefield3 on ubuntu
[11:29] <ne2k> phlak_user: I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about his "600 kbs" and his "1 mb/s"
[11:29] <Yanch0>  on first boot (in live cd it was ok) just after posting, i get a lot of green bars and funny stuff on the monitor for a couple of seconds (Say 30) then the screen goes black- hard disk seems to be still active for another minute or so. any ideas what to look at pls ? this is my dmsg : http://pastebin.com/iVpX7wxt
[11:30]  * UnrealPancake likes Battlefield 3 on Xbox 360
[11:30] <phlak_user> ne2k, oh yes, 1mb/s is the same as 1Mb/s (theres no mega and Mega)
[11:30] <ne2k> phlak_user: m is milli
[11:30] <sattu94> UnrealPancake: No all you need to do is download the Kubuntu desktop graphical environment, not the base OS, which you already have installed. To just get kubuntu desktop environment, do "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", that will download and install kubuntu for you.
[11:30] <NeoTriX> hello
[11:30] <phlak_user> ne2k, not in bitrate world
[11:30] <unomi> ne2k: anyway - iperf is telling me ~8 MBits which I interpret as ~1 MByte/s no?
[11:30] <NeoTriX> need help
[11:30] <phlak_user> unomi, yes
[11:30] <vagothcpp> What is the latest stable release of the ubuntu kernel
[11:31] <UnrealPancake> sattu94: by any chance do you have a link for me?
[11:31] <phlak_user> !ask | Neo_Kipling
[11:31] <phlak_user> oops
[11:31] <phlak_user> !ask | NeoTriX
[11:31] <sattu94> UnrealPancake: Trust me, the command will be easier.
[11:31] <ne2k> unomi: yes -- but you didn't say that, you said 1 mb/s. sorry for being pedantic but it's actually really important in a discussion like this
[11:31] <unomi> ne2k: only if context escapes you
[11:32] <ne2k> unomi: errm, well, how should I know what the program you're using to transfer files reports?
[11:32] <unomi> that said - I should work on being more precise
[11:32] <UnrealPancake> sattu94: by any chance do you have a link for me?
[11:32] <sattu94> UnrealPancake: why do u want a link?
[11:32] <UnrealPancake> oops sorry bout that
[11:32] <phlak_user> unomi, just to compare; you could try an scp copy between the laptops
[11:32] <NeoTriX> i have server ircs à can't install anope   seee  this message /services/services': Permission non accordée
[11:32] <NeoTriX> make[1]: *** [install] Erreur 1
[11:32] <NeoTriX> make[1]: quittant le répertoire « /var/www/vhosts/kifchat.com/httpdocs/irc/anope-1.8.0/src »
[11:32] <NeoTriX> make: *** [install] Erreur 2
[11:32] <sattu94> UnrealPancake: just run the command.
[11:33] <phlak_user> NeoTriX, did you do sudo make install ?
[11:33] <ne2k> unomi: anyway, 8Mb/s of iperf throughput means you will generally get something like 0.8MB/s of real data throughput once you've got TCP and other protocol overheads
[11:33] <UnrealPancake> sattu94: you lost me at "do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[11:33] <UnrealPancake> where do I do that?
[11:34]  * sattu94 Loves Package Manangement..
[11:34] <ne2k> unomi: so your 0.6MB/s that you initially reported is a little low, but not massively
[11:34] <sattu94> UnrealPancake: Open a !terminal.
[11:34] <sattu94> !terminal > UnrealPancake
[11:34] <NeoTriX> see this  kifchat is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[11:34] <brianherman> hello i am having trouble with my xorg.conf
[11:35] <sattu94> !terminal > sattu94
[11:35] <brianherman> i removed my video card
[11:35] <brianherman> and i need to  use the one that is on the motherboard
[11:35] <brianherman> i tried using dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[11:35] <brianherman> and that didnt work
[11:35] <NeoTriX> phlak_user see this  kifchat is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[11:36] <UnrealPancake> sattu94: im currently using Win7 for IRC. Im guessing I have to boot into Ubuntu to do what you told me.?
[11:36] <deej1976> UnrealPancake: yes
[11:36] <sattu94> UnrealPancake: oh yes i forgot you were in win7. How will you access IRC from ubuntu though ?
[11:36] <phlak_user> NeoTriX, thats pretty clear; that user is not allowed to act as admin; add him to the admin group
[11:36] <UnrealPancake> sattu94: I can try connecting through my phone.
[11:36] <NeoTriX> have you commande to add it
[11:37] <UnrealPancake> I have AndroIRC
[11:37] <sattu94> UnrealPancake: just open Firefox in ubuntu, then go to webchat.freenode.net
[11:37] <sattu94> UnrealPancake: from there connect to #ubuntu.
[11:37] <UnrealPancake> i am on my phone
[11:37] <phlak_user> NeoTriX, usermod -G admin username-to-be-modified
[11:37] <UnrealPancake> its connecting my hostname
[11:38] <NeoTriX> ok
[11:38] <sattu94> UnrealPancake: Fine, if that suits you.
[11:38] <UnrealPancake> im entering the cat as PancakeMan
[11:38] <sattu94> UnrealPancake: boot to ubuntu. -_-
[11:38] <phlak_user> NeoTriX, but you need to login as the admin user first otherwise this will not work too
[11:38] <UnrealPancake> sattu94: k
[11:38] <phlak_user> NeoTriX, are you on Ubuntu?
[11:38] <NeoTriX> yes
[11:39] <phlak_user> NeoTriX, server or desktop?
[11:39] <NeoTriX> now im in admin
[11:39] <NeoTriX> root
[11:39] <phlak_user> NeoTriX, ok run that usermod command
[11:39] <unomi> phlak_user: yup.. scp is showing the same basic pattern - starts off at ~ 2.5MB/s ends up at 995KB/s
[11:39] <NeoTriX> ok
[11:39] <UnrealPancake> Hi
[11:40] <UnrealPancake> On my phone
[11:40] <NeoTriX> okey  now its work with sudo su
[11:40] <NeoTriX> thanks
[11:40] <phlak_user> unomi, how many users off that router/ap?
[11:40] <phlak_user> NeoTriX, yw
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> NeoTriX: I suggest you use: sudo -i
[11:41] <Captain_Crow> does the fancy 3d desktop effects and physics come standard on ubuntu or do i have to download something specific to make that stuff work?
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> phlak_user: not: sudo -a -G admin username    ?
[11:41] <UnrealPancake> phlak_user what do i do now?
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> Captain_Crow: compiz and unity are in a default install
[11:42] <gappie> hi. how do you enable auto login in ubuntu server?
[11:42] <unomi> phlak_user: just these 2 boxes, but I should say that they are both engaging in internet traffic through it ~ 200 KiB/s in total
[11:42] <sattu94> UnrealPancake: good, you in Ubuntu?
[11:42] <UnrealPancake> Yes
[11:42] <sattu94> UnrealPancake: Do you have a terminal open?
[11:42] <UnrealPancake> No
[11:42] <UnrealPancake> How do i do that
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> gappie: not very secure, why do you need to autologin?
[11:43] <gappie> specific project
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> gappie: usually the server sits on the login prompt and the background services run
[11:43] <gappie> ActionParsnip : how do i do it
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> gappie: http://www.lalitkapoor.com/blog/2008/06/30/ubuntu-server-desktop-autologin/    may say
[11:43] <sattu94> UnrealPancake: You know how to open Ubuntu Software Centre?
[11:44] <UnrealPancake> No.
[11:44] <deej1976> UnrealPancake: Click the clog in the top left corner
[11:44] <sattu94> UnrealPancake: You have the Bar on the left side?
[11:44] <deej1976> UnrealPancake: In the search box type terminal and hit return
[11:44] <UnrealPancake> Yes
[11:45] <sattu94> deej1976: i was preferring to go through the software centre. ?
[11:45] <UnrealPancake> K
[11:45] <UnrealPancake> Done
[11:45] <deej1976> sattu94: Sorry, old time cli user
[11:45] <sattu94> UnrealPancake: In terminal type "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"..
[11:46] <sattu94> deej1976: me too ^-^..
[11:46] <phlak_user> unomi, you can also use something like wondershaper to prioritize traffic from your laptop and test
[11:46] <deej1976> sattu94: Get things done so much faster :D
[11:46] <sattu94> deej1976: yes!
[11:48] <phlak_user> !info wondershaper | unomi
[11:49] <UnrealPancake> sattu94 ok thank you
[11:50] <unomi> phlak_user: thanks, it looks interesting, my upload speed is already reined in for the other traffic, but I'll give it a go
[11:50] <sattu94> UnrealPancake: Once the installation finishes, log off, select Kubuntu from the session menu at the bottom, then log in.
[11:50] <UnrealPancake> Ok ty
[11:50] <sattu94> UnrealPancake: no need to restart anything..etc..
[11:50] <gappie> how do you change the network settings in ubuntu server?
[11:50] <sattu94> gappie: /etc/network/interfaces
[11:50] <UnrealPancake> Alright
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> gappie  /etc/resolvconf/
[11:51] <gappie> which one?
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> gappie  /etc/resolv.conf
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> gappie  why do want a server if you don't know the basics of networking?
[11:52] <MonkeyDust> you*
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> gappie: you can use wicd-curses if you want a GUI
[11:52] <meadhikari> How would I create a symbolic link for a python script, please help
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: there is a difference between understanding network config and how to set network addresses and such in a new OS
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> meadhikari: same as any other file
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> meadhikari: ln -s source dest
[11:53] <meadhikari> I just mean how
[11:53] <meadhikari> i made ln -s a.py /home/b
[11:53] <meadhikari> now i can not run python b
[11:53] <meadhikari> or am i missing something
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> meadhikari: try: ln -s ./a.py /home/b/a.py
[11:55] <sattu94> MonkeyDust: yes, one may understand how everything works, but may not know how to do that in a new OS, it's akin to asking _where_ to change the network preferences using a GUI...
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> meadhikari: I assume a.py is in PWD
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> fair enough
[11:57] <gappie> on a standard ubuntu server install, would the network be automatically configured to use dhcp?
[11:57] <gappie> or do i  need to setup networking
[11:58] <phlak_user> gappie, when you did the install it wouldve asked you exactly this
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> gappie: by default, yes
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> gappie: you can manually specify addesses and DNS servers if you desire but the default is DHCP for all interfaces (except lo)
[11:59] <gappie> acmeinc so where do I see the dhcp settings
[11:59] <Captain_Crow> is there a version of ubuntu with wine integrated where windows apps just work, or does wine have to be manually installed and fiddled with on each version?
[12:01] <photon> hi. now, for the second time today, my computer just hangs for about half an hour doing heavy hard disk work. I don't know why, and System Monitor doesn't show the culprit. However, I got a glimpse of an error message in my console saying something like "/etc/update-motd/98-fsck-at-reboot failed" ... Is it possible that Ubuntu is fsck'ing my hard drives w/o my consent causing my computer to freeze for so long? is there any other explanation? what can
[12:01] <photon> I do if it happens again?
[12:01] <photon> Btw, I did NOT reboot at that time.
[12:01] <photon> syslog doesn't show anything related, either.
[12:02] <gappie> ActionParsnip so where do I see the dhcp settings
[12:02] <phlak_user> photon, do you have any indexing tool installed like google desktop or beagle?
[12:03] <photon> phlak_user: no.
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> gappie: you can see the interface addresses by running:  ifconfig; cat /etc/resolv.conf
[12:03] <photon> the weird thing is, I often do work that involves a lot of writes/reads to/from my hard drive, but never does it freeze up like that.
[12:04] <phlak_user> photon, any NFS read-writes?
[12:04] <photon> phlak_user: no.
[12:05] <gappie> I had to run "sudo dhclient" on startup before I could get my networking going on ubuntu server. Why is this?
[12:06] <gappie> I need it working without sending commands
[12:06] <phlak_user> gappie, edit /etc/network/interfaces and set it up
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> gappie: in /etc/rc.local    above the exit 0  line, add the command you run and it will run as root at startup
[12:07] <gappie> ActionParsnip is it normal to do that?
[12:07] <phlak_user> gappie, like this line ->  iface eth0 inet dhcp
[12:08] <phlak_user> gappie, "man interfaces"  should give you the various examples
[12:08] <gappie> phlak_user : i have the iface eth0 inet dhcp line in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:09] <gappie> but still it does not work on startup
[12:09] <TotalNonsense> Hey, so how does this Pangolin of #ubuntu-offtopic accuse me of being someone who was in that channel last week?
[12:09] <pangolin> wrong channel
[12:09] <TotalNonsense> #freenode asked me to ask here
[12:09] <pangolin> why not just ask me in the offtopic channel
[12:10] <TotalNonsense> I already tried; no one gave anything constructive.
[12:10] <TotalNonsense> No evidence, no log, nothing but hearsay
[12:10] <pangolin> ok, well this is still not the right place
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> gappie: it can be with some hardware configs, I've seen it needed.
[12:11] <Anomie211> Got the 11.10 dvd downloaded now, can I check if build-essentials can be installed from it by extracting it or do I need to mount/burn it?
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> !logs | TotalNonsense
[12:11] <phlak_user> gappie, do you also have an auto eth0 before that?
[12:12] <TotalNonsense> "loco?"
[12:12] <gappie> phlak_user : yes
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> TotalNonsense: the link has the logs of the chanels, so you can see what is what
[12:12] <breakdown> Hi,i may play GTA San Andreas MultiPlayer on Ubuntu?
[12:12] <phlak_user> gappie, does doing ifdown eth0 and then ifup eth0 bring up the interface and assign a dhcp address automatically?
[12:12] <gappie> phlak_user : when i run ifconfig I see eth1 and not eth0
[12:13] <gappie> whynot use eth0?
[12:13] <TotalNonsense> ActionParsnip: Sorry, nothing about -offtopic
[12:13] <phlak_user> gappie, ah, so you need to change that eth0 to eth1
[12:13] <TotalNonsense> Is there a search-all feature?
[12:13] <gappie> ok
[12:13] <phlak_user> gappie, dunno if you have two interfaces, maybe you connected to the one called eth1
[12:13] <pangolin> there are no logs for -offtopic.
[12:13] <hotkeys> i have been installing a distro upgrade over SSH and it keeps giving me set: unable to open display i keep hitting enter and it resumes. am I doing something wrong?
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> TotalNonsense: is offtopic not logged
[12:14] <gappie> phlak_user : i installed the system on a drive connected to aother system than the one now
[12:14] <phlak_user> hotkeys, have you forwarded X? or only a text-only upgrade
[12:14] <phlak_user> gappie, so that mustve screwed up the interface numbering
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> gappie: the change I suggested is a little easier than playing with the interfaces file, although it is a good thing to learn
[12:16] <hotkeys> phlak_user I have not forwarded X i would be interested in knowing how
[12:16] <dr_willis> hotkeys:  ssh -x  server       or was it -X
[12:17] <WinstonSmith> -X
[12:17] <dr_willis> hotkeys:  i set my ssh to do it by default
[12:17] <hotkeys> Thank you
[12:17] <dr_willis> upper case X
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> also add -C too, enables compression
[12:18] <dr_willis> hotkeys:  if you are on an os with an x server  :-)
[12:19] <hotkeys> dr_willis I am on ubuntu desktop. I use SSH to manage my ubuntu server edition. I dont think I understand your question/comment.
[12:19] <dr_willis> also when updateing over ssh. you may want to be using screen
[12:19] <hotkeys> yes I do run my do-release with screen -S name
[12:19] <dr_willis> hotkeys:  so use   ssh -X server
[12:20] <dr_willis> or -XC :-)
[12:20] <hotkeys> dr_willis I will research, thank you
[12:21] <ucenik02> ima nekoj >>>>
[12:21] <ucenik02> mk nekoj ?
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: angry ssh :)
[12:22] <hotkeys> ActionParsnip I may try that one first
[12:25] <gappie> my /etc/apt/sources.list is emty. is this normal for a fresh install?
[12:25] <gappie> *empty
[12:26] <pangolin> no
[12:26] <rumpe1> gappie, choose a server in package management and check again
[12:26] <pangolin> gappie: how are you checking?
[12:26] <gappie> how do this in console mode?
[12:26] <gappie> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:27] <pangolin> gappie: you sure you typed in the correct path?
[12:27] <gappie> no
[12:27] <gappie> missed the s
[12:27] <pangolin> :)
[12:27] <gappie> heh
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> gappie: use TAB to complete files and folder names, fewer mistakes
[12:32] <Gere> Can you tell me flv to mp3 converter pls without  winff in ubutnu?
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Gere: did you download the flv from youtube?
[12:33] <Timewarper> HEY
[12:33] <Timewarper>  whats the best data recovery software (undelete) for linux?
[12:33] <Gere> yas I have download it
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> Gere: http://www.youtube-mp3.org/   use that instead, easier
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> Gere: no need to download the video first
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> Timewarper: there is no single best app for any problem in any OS
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> !datarecovery | Timewarper
[12:34] <pangolin> !undelete
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> Timewarper: the most reliable will be to use your backups
[12:34] <sharpK> anyone know where to find the specific driver files for a printer installed in windows (I need to put the files on the ubuntu home server so that people can use the printer and install it from the server)
[12:34] <sharpK> ?
[12:35] <luca_bi> How can I start mysql on ubuntu 11.10??
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> sharpK: I'd ask in ##windows
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> luca_bi: sudo service mysql start
[12:35] <LilleCarl> luca_bi apt-get install mysql-server
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> luca_bi: use tab to complete the mysql word
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> LilleCarl: start, not install ;)
[12:36] <LilleCarl> a /etc/init.d/mysql start i think
[12:36] <MonkeyDust>  must be confusing for luca_bi ;)
[12:37] <luca_bi> luca@luca-Satellite-A200:~$ sudo service mysql start
[12:37] <luca_bi> start: Job is already running: mysql
[12:37] <luca_bi> Is it open?
[12:37] <gappie> after adding "deb http://ubuntu.mirror.cambrium.nl/ubuntu/ lucid main universe" to sources.list I still cannot run "sudo apt-get bluez-hcidump"
[12:38] <Gere> tnx again
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> luca_bi: then it's running and good to go
[12:38] <gappie> "invalid operation bluez-hcidump"
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> gappie  you forgot 'install'
[12:38] <gappie> thanks!
[12:39] <luca_bi> ActionParsnip: I've create a document but when i run it on localhost  I have: Unable to connect!
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> gappie: and run:  sudo apt-get update    first
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> luca_bi: I know very little of SQL
[12:39] <gappie> ok thanks
[12:39] <Amdpc> !mysql
[12:46] <deej1976> luca_bi: is apache and mysql on the same server?
[12:46] <luca_bi> deej1976: yes
[12:47] <luca_bi> http://ideone.com/wa306
[12:50] <deej1976> luca_bi: If you start a terminal, and run: mysql -h localhost -u test -p testdb, enter password test when prompted
[12:52] <harsh343> deej1976, how are you ?
[12:52] <deej1976> !ot : harsh343:
[12:53] <Stava> How do I clear all formatting of a document in open/libre -office?
[12:53] <deej1976> !ask | harsh343
[12:54] <harsh343> deej1976, I have no question right now
[12:55] <luca_bi> deej1976: now I have mysql>
[12:55] <deej1976> luca_bi: Now try: "SELECT * FROM symbols;"
[12:56] <harsh343> luca_bi, type show databases;
[12:56] <deej1976> harsh343: Database has already been selected.
[12:57] <luca_bi> mysql> SELECT * FROM symbols
[12:57] <luca_bi>     ->
[12:57] <deej1976> luca_bi:  -> ; <- Important
[12:57] <harsh343> ok then show tables and use table
[12:58] <luca_bi> ;<-
[12:58] <luca_bi> ERROR 1046 (3D000): No database selected
[12:58] <harsh343> and then Query
[12:58] <deej1976> luca_bi: use testdb;
[12:58] <harsh343> deej1976, no database selected
[12:58] <gappie> when I insert usb flash drive into pc in ubuntu server it says: something sdb assuming drive cache: write through. howdo I mount the drive then?
[12:59] <dr_willis> gappie:  mount command as needed.
[12:59] <dr_willis> !mount
[12:59] <gappie> it doesnot return me to the command prompt
[12:59] <dr_willis> gappie:  what dosent?
[12:59] <gappie> something sdb assuming drive cache: write through.
[12:59] <gappie> not "user:"
[13:00] <dr_willis> gappie:  what command are you using exactly?
[13:00] <gappie> nothing
[13:00] <gappie> happening auto when insert usb
[13:00] <deej1976> luca_bi: What came back from "use testdb;"
[13:00] <dr_willis> gappie:  hit enter? its just a mesage showing on the terminal
[13:00] <jwtiyar> i have .zip files of an program how i can install it?
[13:00] <dr_willis> jwtiyar:  extract it. and read its install docs.. odd that a linux app would come in a .zip
[13:00] <luca_bi> ERROR 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'testdb
[13:00] <luca_bi> use testdb' at line 1
[13:01] <jwtiyar> dr_willis, there is no install doc on it
[13:01] <dr_willis> jwtiyar:  and what is this thing?
[13:01] <deej1976> luca_bi: type exactly this with out quotas "use testdb;"
[13:01] <jwtiyar> dr_willis, this http://egymasters.hishambakr.com/download/AIORemote1.4_Linux.zip , see it
[13:02] <harsh343> luca_bi,      firstly check the database whether it is exist or not type show databases; if testdb present then simply type use testdb;
[13:02] <luca_bi> deej1976: ->
[13:02] <jwtiyar> dr_willis, thanks i got it there .jar file on it
[13:02] <gappie> mount: filesystem type to use?
[13:03] <luca_bi> "show databases"
[13:03] <luca_bi> ->
[13:03] <dr_willis> gappie:  yes.. what filesystem is the flash using?
[13:03] <gappie> fat32
[13:03] <dr_willis>  -t auto should work
[13:03] <dr_willis> !windows
[13:03] <dr_willis> !vfat
[13:04] <gappie> huh
[13:04] <gappie> sudo mount /dev/sdb /mnt should change to what?
[13:04] <dr_willis> You may want to read that mount factoid  a bit.
[13:04] <dr_willis> gappie:  add -t vfat   or -t auto
[13:04] <dr_willis> gappie:  and most likely its sdb1 not sdb
[13:05] <dr_willis> mount -t auto /dev/sdb1  /mnt
[13:05] <gappie> k
[13:05] <gappie> thanks
[13:06] <user1> !oneric
[13:07] <user1> does hiberante work with oneric for netbooks? is it fixed
[13:07] <dr_willis> it may depend on the specific netbook user1
[13:07] <zagibu> hibernation is very hardware-dependant, so no general answer is possible
[13:08] <user1> dr_wiilis: oh so there is still problem.  i have asus 1215B
[13:08] <dr_willis> user1:  i never said there was or was not.. it depends on your specific netbook
[13:08] <user1> zagibu: come on . dont blame hardware and when windows is/are/whatever doing it fine
[13:09] <zagibu> i don't blame anyone
[13:09] <gappie> how do you go one folderdeeper in console?
[13:09] <gappie> cd wants fll patch
[13:09] <john_rambo> I am getting segmentation fault while trying to add the deluge ppa ..How to solve this ?
[13:09] <dr_willis> user1:  the hw makers are the ones not releaseing specs. or not following the specs that do exist.
[13:09] <gappie> cd, dir?
[13:09] <ball> dir
[13:10] <dr_willis> windows is doing it 'fine' because they specifically make drivers/test them to work with windows.
[13:10] <user1> dr_wiilis: i cant understand when version prior to 11.04 can hibernate why cant these?
[13:10] <zagibu> user1: are you still in the "linux is a free windows" phase?
[13:10] <dr_willis> user1:  new kernel version most likely
[13:10]  * dr_willis wonders why his laptop crashes in windows when it hibernates.. but not in linux...
[13:11] <user1> zagibu: i am in "linux is windows is not needed " phase
[13:11] <zagibu> whatever that means
[13:11] <truefx> i cant play movies in fullscreen +gnome mplayer plz help
[13:11] <user1> yeah nowadays ubuntu has lot of "whatever" guys. they have become kind of lethargic
[13:11] <dr_willis> id have to suggest checking the forums and askubuntu.com for your specific laptop.
[13:12]  * deej1976 Wonders why windows won't boot, then remember he wiped 5 minutes after open the box :D
[13:12] <zagibu> user1: yeah, you seem to be one of them...why not write some code and fix your hibernation problem yourself instead of waiting for "them" to fix it?
[13:13] <user1> zagibu : :-) yes i am the most lethargic. just kindling there
[13:13] <truefx> dr_willis, i cant play movies in fullscreen +gnome mplayer +in linux. But not in windows
[13:13] <user1> zagibu: lots of porn you know. no time.
[13:14] <zagibu> don't worry, it will get better with age
[13:15] <zagibu> well, it won't, your time will be eaten away by other things
[13:16] <dr_willis> truefx:  and your video card is? and what drivers are you using..
[13:16] <dr_willis> truefx:  and your ubuntu version is?
[13:17] <user1> zagibu: its also because females getting into that we getting into coding. its becoming complementing each other with most coders into that
[13:17] <dr_willis> and excatly what does happwn when you try to play a movie......
[13:17] <truefx> dr_willis, VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]
[13:17] <truefx> 	Subsystem: C.P. Technology Co. Ltd Device 2049
[13:17] <truefx> 	Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 19
[13:17] <truefx> 	Memory at f0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
[13:17] <truefx> 	I/O ports at a000 [size=256]
[13:17] <truefx> 	Memory at fb000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
[13:17] <truefx> 	[virtual] Expansion ROM at fa000000 [disabled] [size=128K]
[13:17] <truefx> 	Capabilities: <access denied>
[13:17] <truefx> 	Kernel driver in use: radeon
[13:17] <truefx> 	Kernel modules: radeonfb, radeon
[13:17] <zagibu> user1: not sure I want to understand what you're talking about, but it sounds kinky
[13:17] <deej1976> !pastebin | truefx
[13:18] <dr_willis> so you have an ATI RV100 and using the Radeon drivers.. its possible the fglrx drivers may work better for you. Or may not. I dont use ati.
[13:18] <user1> zagibu: i can see your browser cache. hmmm quite kinky you as well ;)
[13:18] <dr_willis> truefx:  you ran the 'addational-drivers' tool and looked to see if it could install the fglrx drivers? (run jockey-gtk from terminal if you cant find it in the menus)
[13:18] <truefx> dr_willis, ubuntu 10.04 i can decrease size properly but i cant increase or play in fullscreen, Size remains original
[13:19] <zagibu> user1: so jenkins build logs turn you on? to each his own, I guess
[13:19] <dr_willis> truefx:  you mean it has a large black border around the video?
[13:19] <truefx> yep
[13:20] <dr_willis> try some of the differnt 'video output' optins in your video player. or try the fglrx drivers.
[13:20] <user1> zagibu: so you mean you are clean as crystal
[13:20] <zagibu> user1: i'm on a business computer, and I actually don't want to lose my job, it pays quite well
[13:21] <zagibu> user1: btw, this is quite offtopic...I suggest personal messages if you want to continue
[13:22] <truefx> dr_willis, no prop,, drivers. and i cant push enable button as root
[13:23] <dr_willis> truefx:  i dont use ati. its piossible that card does not use fglrx any more. so you shoudl try a differnt player like vlc, and/or the differnt video out options for the  players
[13:23] <user1> zagibu: nothing personal unless you want to continue. just want to know if i can just upgrade only my kernel. it takes 1.04 GB to dist upgrade11 is that really required?
[13:24] <truefx> i can play it in vls but it s slow and vlc consumes too much cpu, i have an old system
[13:24] <luca_bi> Unable to connect:Access denied for user 'www-data'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[13:24] <luca_bi> which is the problem?
[13:24] <truefx> dr_willis, i can play it in vls but it s slow and vlc consumes too much cpu, i have an old system
[13:25] <dr_willis> truefx:  so that leaves you with 'trying the differnt video out options in the player'
[13:25] <iceroot> luca_bi: there is no mysql-user called "www-data"
[13:25] <truefx> dr_willis, like what ?
[13:25] <dr_willis> truefx:  also in the monitors/displays tools there Might be a 'use hardware scaleing' option
[13:26] <dr_willis> vlc has perhaps a dozen differnt 'video out' drivers. i havent used mplayer in ages.. but it has several also. check your settings for your player
[13:27] <singkong> can ubuntu use dial up connection bloototh ?
[13:28] <luca_bi> iceroot: Why www-data?
[13:29] <john_rambo> opening deluge gives segmentation fault
[13:29] <zagibu> user1: if you don't have the desired kernel in your packages, you either have to adjust the package sources, or get and install it manually
[13:30] <user1> i dont understand why i need 1 GB for just a image.
[13:32] <asif_> hi..I have installed ubuntu 11.10 there is no panel in the bottom so what i minimize just disappears  how to add a panel
[13:32] <dr_willis> should be a panel at the left asif_
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> nounity| asif_
[13:32] <dr_willis> mouse over to the side and see...
[13:32] <skilz> asif_, sudo apt-get install cairo-dock
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> !nounity| asif_
[13:33] <asif_> there is no pannel by default , what i minimize goes to launcher...??
[13:34] <dr_willis> what you minimize goes to the left side panel and the icon changes to get an arrow by it.
[13:34] <dr_willis> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/our-complete-guide-to-unity-in-ubuntu-11-04/
[13:34] <dr_willis> I reall need to find some good unity 'guides' :)
[13:34] <LilleCarl> I think unity is stupid, Gnome ATW
[13:35] <asif_> ok got it . I am loving this learning curve
[13:35] <dr_willis> whats to learn. :)
[13:35] <dr_willis> click to launch.. click to bring back..
[13:36] <asif_> one more question how can i reduce icon size of the launcher
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> yes, but you cannot click in the launchbar to minimize
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> asif_  it's in ccsm
[13:37] <asif_> mongy, CCSM..?
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> compiz configuration
[13:37] <iceroot> luca_bi: because you defined that user
[13:37] <dr_willis> no real need to i guess.. never noticed.
[13:37] <iceroot> luca_bi: and if you dont put a user for the mysql-command the user which is calling the mysql client will be used
[13:37] <dr_willis> start up about 4 terminal windows and click on the terminal icon in the panel..
[13:37] <Reikoku> How do I change my MSN display name in empathy?
[13:38] <asif_> thank you guyz , I am feeling excitement as i felt when i used computer 1st time
[13:38] <luca_bi> iceroot: http://ideone.com/NhhBE
[13:39] <iceroot> luca_bi: what?
[13:39] <luca_bi> iceroot: I defined root as username
[13:39] <iceroot> luca_bi: you looked at that code?
[13:39] <luca_bi> Yes it's my code
[13:39] <iceroot> luca_bi: you defined $user but using $root
[13:40] <iceroot> luca_bi: and $root is empty so the user which is calling it will be used
[13:40] <franksouza1831> franksouza1831: hello
[13:40] <luca_bi> iceroot: Yes I use root as username
[13:40] <iceroot> luca_bi: you are using php complety wrong
[13:40] <dr_willis> root as a users name? Hmmm...
[13:40] <iceroot> dr_willis: for mysql
[13:40] <iceroot> dr_willis: which is the default
[13:40] <iceroot> luca_bi: $connection = mysql_connect($server, $root, $filiberto) or die ("Unable to connect:".mysql_error());
[13:40] <luca_bi> iceroot: Which username should I use?
[13:40] <Reikoku> I'm clearly not the only person here using Empathy (the built in messenger) -- how do I change my MSN display name which other contacts see?
[13:40] <iceroot> luca_bi: why $server and $root?
[13:41]  * dr_willis recalls an old installer bug in ubuntu where you could add a user named 'root' as your initial user....
[13:41] <iceroot> luca_bi: that variables are not defined
[13:41] <luca_bi> iceroot: should I use $localhost instead of $server?
[13:42] <iceroot> luca_bi: $host = "localhost";
[13:42] <iceroot> luca_bi: of course you have to use "$host"
[13:42] <iceroot> luca_bi: also please join #php
[13:42] <oCean> luca_bi: this is really not a php or html support channel. Try ##php
[13:43] <gappie> how can i check if ssh is installed?
[13:43] <iceroot> gappie: dpkg -l openssh-server
[13:43] <luca_bi> it doesn't work
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> gappie  apt-cache policy ssh
[13:43] <iceroot> luca_bi: /join ##php
[13:43] <iceroot> gappie: ii means installed
[13:44] <verdoc> did apt-get drop the --nodeps option?
[13:44] <iceroot> verdoc: man apt-get
[13:44] <verdoc> iceroot, right, it's not in there and I don't see a replacement
[13:45] <john21> hello
[13:45] <agen-m> hi
[13:45] <john21> has anybody tried unity-2d from daily builds?
[13:45] <iceroot> john21: #ubuntu+1
[13:46] <agen-m> what is unity-2d?
[13:46] <verdoc> iceroot, so what's the equivalent?
[13:46] <Dante_> john21 , yes i have tried unity-2d
[13:47] <iceroot> verdoc: looking at it at the moment but cant find an alternate that fast
[13:47] <agen-m> привет!
[13:47] <vagothcpp> is GRUB still the bootloader for Ubuntu/Xubuntu?
[13:47] <dr_willis> vagothcpp:  grub2 is the standard these days. yes.
[13:47] <vagothcpp> dr_willis, thank you
[13:48] <iceroot> verdoc: sorry
[13:48] <verdoc> iceroot, it's just gone?
[13:49] <sipior> verdoc: i have an apt-get that's currently three years old, and it doesn
[13:49] <sipior> ve
[13:49] <sipior> verdoc: it doesn't have the option either.
[13:49] <sipior> (bloody touchtyping not going so well)
[13:50] <Nertskull> Is there a way to install imagemagick with the latest version with the package manager?  Or if I want the latest version will I have to install from source?
[13:50] <Razec> hi ALL
[13:50] <Baccari> hi
[13:50] <sipior> verdoc: might you be thinking of rpm instead?
[13:51] <gappie> how do you logout from a ssh session?
[13:51] <vagothcpp> On the ubuntu help page the kernel compile guide is a little bit old, so would the latest published kernel guide on the site still be relevant?
[13:51] <dr_willis> Nertskull:  there might be a PPA for it.
[13:51] <dr_willis> !ppa
[13:51] <dr_willis> gappie:  'exit' command or 'logout'
[13:51] <gappie> dr_willis thnks
[13:52] <dr_willis> gappie:  you can also hit ctrl-d a few times i recall. :)
[13:53] <verdoc> sipior, I found a post referencing, I guess the end result is just wanna ignore deps
[13:53] <zippzack24> videolan
[13:54] <auvajs> beginner question: how to encrypt in openssl from a command line with a password?
[13:55] <Nertskull> dr_willis: Yeah I couldn't find a newer ppa, thanks though
[13:55] <auvajs> openssl enc -d -aes-256-cbc -in file.pack -out file.out -pass pass:password gives me an error
[13:55] <tomasz_hp> hello
[13:55] <tomasz_hp> i have unity , and have question
[13:55] <tomasz_hp> how add icon to activity shortcut?
[13:56] <tomasz_hp> i have ' ? ' only
[13:58] <tomasz_hp> ??
[13:59] <dusf> do i need to install something to use bluetooth with xubuntu 11.04?
[13:59] <mobal> hello!
[14:00] <mobal> someone can help me? pls check me, i'm looking for intel hd 3000 framebuffer resolution list
[14:00] <siavoshkc> hi
[14:00] <gappie> howdo I see system load in console?
[14:01] <Gentoo64> gappie, top
[14:01] <siavoshkc> press esc
[14:01] <dusf> !bluetooth
[14:01] <fhussain> can I run some startup script when I login to a session with LightDM?
[14:02] <tomasz_hp> ??
[14:02] <anAngel> Hello. My ubuntu 11.10 router is resetting randomly. How can i troubleshoot it or locate the problem?
[14:02] <Gentoo64> anAngel, what do you mean ubuntu router?
[14:03] <fhussain> With upstart, what's the best way to switch to a console login instead of X? Earlier it used to be /etc/inittab.
[14:03] <Gentoo64> are you using a comp as a router?
[14:03] <dusf> !bluetooth
[14:03] <dusf> that bluetooth guide is out of date and the commands do not work
[14:03] <xiwenbin2010> what?
[14:03] <dusf> dusf@banshee:/usr/share/doc/bluez/examples$ sudo ./simple-agent hci0 00:11:67:00:00:00
[14:03] <dusf> sudo: ./simple-agent: command not found
[14:03] <anAngel> Gentoo64: ubuntu 11.10 server installation configured as NAT router
[14:04] <Gentoo64> anAngel, resetting as in rebooting?
[14:04] <Gentoo64> or settings
[14:04] <mfilipe> what is the channel to support ubuntu-one?
[14:04] <xiwenbin2010> tall somtthing
[14:04] <anAngel> Gentoo64: rebooting
[14:05] <harsh343> copy from one folder to another in remote server
[14:05] <Gentoo64> anAngel, maybe its the psu?
[14:05] <harsh343> all folder
[14:05] <harsh343> ?
[14:05] <Phoenix87> i have an ati radeon x1600 pro card and foobillard doesn't look too good. I'm not using proprietary driver and I was wondering if maybe I should
[14:05] <dusf> does ubuntu not support bluetooth?
[14:06] <RonaldJ> Witch package do I need for client gssapiauthentication support?
[14:06] <dusf> jesus, bluetooth is something so basic and should be plug and play
[14:07] <dusf> it's easier to just log onto windows for a few minutes
[14:07] <RonaldJ> When I connect to ssh it waits a while before the password prompt. I found that this is a GSS problem.
[14:08] <harsh343> how to copy folder dashboard_check in the same place but different name dashboard_check2 in remote server
[14:08] <madm1ke> hi, i have a widescreen (1366x768) intel gpu notebook and can't get plymouth to work nicely. on shutdown i get the correct theme and on bootup it falls back to text mode. does anyone know how to debug this or repair this?
[14:08] <harsh343> using ubuntu terminal
[14:08] <skilz> harsh343, cp dashboard_check dashboard_check2
[14:09] <harsh343> skilz, and also the path required
[14:09] <harsh343> /var/www
[14:10] <JoshuaP>  /srv/http
 that the same problem.What is GSS?
[14:10] <harsh343> skilz, live:~# /var/www cp dashboard_check dashboard_check2
[14:10] <harsh343>  is this ok ?
[14:11] <dr_willis> hmm.. poor dusf.. bluetooth is plug and play ehre on my linux box.. under windows - i have to fight with it.
[14:11] <skilz> where is the file located? in /var/www?
[14:11] <skilz> If so cd /var/www/
[14:11] <harsh343> skilz, live:/var/www/Dashboard_check
[14:11] <dr_willis> harsh343:  you might want to install 'mc' and learn to use it.. it is a console based file manager using F keys to do all sorts of things...
[14:11] <skilz> yeah
[14:11] <dr_willis> or spend some time reasing some bash guides. :)
[14:11] <skilz> thats right then
[14:12] <harsh343> ok
[14:12] <skilz> harsh343, man bash
[14:13] <txomon> Hi, I remember there was a distribution that was made up for hacking linux, not for getting into other systems, to learn about security. I think it was sth like ubuntu... anyonw knows?
[14:13] <raven> ssmtp hangs up without message, without ctrl-c option and does not send any mails - config file written and confirmed - any ideas?
[14:13] <Phoenix87> i have an ati radeon x1600 pro card and foobillard doesn't look too good. I'm not using proprietary driver and I was wondering if maybe I should
[14:13] <txomon> Phoenix87, you should
[14:14] <Phoenix87> txomon, can't I just boost the non proprietary drivers via xorg.conf?
[14:14] <martian> Since I upgraded my server to 11.10, I have been getting messages from apt saying that nfs-common has been held back from upgrade. Why would that be?
[14:15] <txomon> Phoenix87, you can use the default drivers, but usually, X guys don't develop as good as the builder drivers for those cards
[14:15] <raven> ssmtp hangs up without message, without ctrl-c option and does not send any mails - config file written and confirmed - any ideas?
[14:16] <sipior> raven: is it not just waiting on standard input? does ctrl-D help?
[14:16] <txomon> raven, man ssmtp
[14:17] <txomon> Phoenix87, if you want to use only opensource programs, you will have to accept that they are in develop
[14:17] <Phoenix87> ok txomon i'll give ati drivers a try thanks :D
[14:18] <harsh343> skilz, http://pastebin.com/6eri9mPe
[14:20] <RonaldJ> how do I install gssapiauthentication support for ssh-client?
[14:21] <ssbpls> hei,man,could anyone recommend some books about gtk programming?
[14:21] <gappie> what is the best for running shell script at startup: using cron jobs or using /etc/rc.local ?
[14:21] <raven> sipior oh yes that is this mode but ssmtp -vvv user@account.tld should do anything right?
[14:21] <me-1> hi..how can i install google chrome in ubuntu 11.10
[14:22] <Phoenix87> txomon, what if my card is no longer officially supported?
[14:22] <userone> when i insert a usb i want ubuntu to 'do nothing' (except mount the usb). i dont want nautilus to start up. how can i change this?
[14:23] <deej1976> me-1: http://www.google.com/chrome/eula.html in firefox and download deb file
[14:23] <sipior> raven: if i read the man page correctly, that command will expect mail on standard input.
[14:23] <txomon> Phoenix87, no idea, never had that problem...
[14:23] <txomon> Phoenix87, and I think they never get "unsupported"
[14:23] <skilz> harsh343, Is it a directory or a file?
[14:23] <gappie> what is the best for running shell script at startup: using cron jobs or using /etc/rc.local ?
[14:23] <txomon> only distros get unsupported
[14:24] <me-1> deej1976,  is it not in repos..?
[14:24] <raven> sipior, it should send to that address!!??
[14:24] <txomon> (not pretty sure about that)
[14:24] <sipior> raven: send what, exactly?
[14:24] <deej1976> me-1: Nope
[14:24] <sipior> raven: (hint, hint)
[14:24] <me-1> deej1976, thank you
[14:24] <harsh343> skilz, it is a folder contain many files
[14:24] <raven> sipior, an empty mail to user@accound.tld using the config file
[14:24] <skilz> harsh343, In that case cp -rf is what you are after.
[14:25] <RonaldJ> how do I install gssapiauthentication support for ssh-client?
[14:25] <deej1976> me-1: It will install a repositry and keep upto date, through the normal update-manager.
[14:25] <sipior> raven: well, it's possible the man page i'm consulting is out of date, but how about just giving it a real message on stdin?
[14:25] <skilz> Roasted, apt-cache search ssh
[14:25] <me-1> deej1976,  downloading right now thanx
[14:26] <raven> sipior, i never did anything with stdin/out - how to do that?
[14:27] <sipior> raven: "ssmtp foo@example.com < message.txt"
[14:27] <sipior> raven: or just invoke "ssmtp foo@example.com", and then type a message, ending with ctrl-D.
[14:27] <skilz> RonaldJ, apt-cache search ssh
[14:28] <me-1> what is difference between apt-get update and apt-get upgrade..?
[14:29] <RonaldJ> skilz it is not that simple
[14:29] <martian> me-1: the first one just updates apt's list of available software
[14:29] <harsh343> skilz, ok thanks
[14:29] <oCean> me-1: update refreshes the local cache/softwarelist
[14:29] <skilz> me-1, update syncs the repos and upgrade upgrades your software.
[14:29] <deej1976> me-1: update updates the repositry information, upgrade installs new packages
[14:29] <raven> sipior, yes then i get a line with status 220 but no mail
[14:30] <me-1> deej1976, I have just installed ubuntu 11.10 should i ubdate or upgrade or both..?
[14:30] <sipior> raven: you've specified the smart relay host correctly?
[14:30] <skilz> me-1, both
[14:30] <deej1976> me-1: Run sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:30] <Wiz_KeeD> how do i unzip a file from one to location to another location?
[14:30] <raven> sipior, i think so
[14:30] <skilz> me-1, It's a good idea to do both at least once a week for security updates and such.
[14:31] <deej1976> me-1: This will update your system, i.e. firefox 7 upto 8
[14:31] <skilz> Wiz_KeeD, Depends on the zip format.
[14:31] <sipior> raven: might take a few minutes for the message to show up, at any rate.
[14:31] <Wiz_KeeD> idk...just zip
[14:31] <Wiz_KeeD> works with unzip
[14:31] <Wiz_KeeD> i just want to place it in the same folder as the original zip
[14:31] <raven> sipior, did it like the gmx example for arcor (me) on that page http://linuxundich.de/de/software/system-mails-ohne-einen-mail-server-mit-ssmtp-verschicken/#more-15889
[14:32] <skilz> i.e; unzip foo.zip /home/foo/bar/
[14:32] <me-1> ok
[14:32] <ssbpls> any help for me?
[14:33] <Wiz_KeeD> skilz, i did that
[14:33] <Wiz_KeeD> didn't work
[14:33] <skilz> Did the command return any errors?
[14:33] <Wiz_KeeD> filename not matched:
[14:33] <usl12> how do I switch to a console login?
[14:34] <Reikoku> Anyone using Unity-2D, how do I make the alt-f2 quick launch screen automatically appear maximised? There is a maximise button in the bottom right so I'm assuming it can be on by default.
[14:34] <skilz> Wiz_KeeD, unzip file.zip /path/to/dir/*
[14:34] <Wiz_KeeD> use wildcard at the end?
[14:34] <skilz> usl12, ctrl+alt+F2
[14:35] <e01> someone with ubuntu 11.10 and gnome-shell?
[14:35] <usl12> unable to change default runlevel using /etc/inittab or  from /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpstartHowto). any other way?
[14:35] <Reikoku> Anyone using Unity-2D, how do I make the alt-f2 quick launch screen automatically appear maximised like in Unity-3D? There is a maximise button in the bottom right so I'm assuming it can be on by default.
[14:36] <Wiz_KeeD> didn't work either :(
[14:37] <raven> sipior ?
[14:37] <e01> in ubuntu11.10 skype doesn't follow desktop theme, is this wide problem or just in my case, anybody?
[14:38] <raven> e01, in ubuntu 11.10 i wish i had only a design problem ^^
[14:38] <xangua> e01: on skype preferences set it to emulate GTK
[14:38] <Gentoo64> e01: i think skype uses qt
[14:39] <sipior> raven: are you quite sure the message was not delivered? smtp 220 means "service ready".
[14:39] <Baccari> yes, it's qt
[14:39] <e01> xangua, i was try but it won't work
[14:40] <raven> sipior, yes its not there
[14:40] <e01> raven, well, we have to start from somewhere
[14:40] <e01> ;)
[14:40] <sipior> raven: look through your logs, or contact support at GMX.
[14:40] <EisNerd> moin
[14:40] <raven> sipior, which log for example?
[14:41] <skilz> raven, /var/log/skype*
[14:41] <EisNerd> could someone tell what I have to do besaide configuring ldap stuff, to allow users to login in lightdm on 11.10?
[14:41] <EisNerd> beside
[14:41] <sipior> raven: hey, you *did* format the message correctly, right? with a "To:" and "From:", &cet.?
[14:42] <sipior> raven: have a look here: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/10/21/sending-email-from-your-system-with-ssmtp/
[14:42] <bagero> hii
[14:43] <raven> sipior, i thought that all would be not necessary because of sending an empty mail as it is performed in this tutorial...
[14:43] <raven> sipior, ok
[14:43] <bagero> any one here from egy
[14:44] <moDuLeSs> Hi! I've got a couple of webbooks. One of them has fedora preinstalled by my company. I've installed ubuntu in the other one, but I'm unable to detect wireless networks. Although the fedora one detects them. How could I extract the module that uses fedora in order to use it in ubuntu??
[14:45] <ph8> is there any way i can get a taskbar back in oneiric?
[14:46] <ph8> I can deal with the menu and everything but task switching by just using alt+tab all the time is killing me!
[14:48] <e01> ph8, the big buttons in the left seems to be a pale copy of the futuristic taskbar, but for now it's just a junk
[14:49] <usl12> skilz, thanks. I want to login to console, no X.
[14:49] <usl12> I'm trying with modifying grub to use "text"
[14:49] <ph8> with the buttons on the left...
[14:49] <ph8> how do i start something more than once?
[14:49] <iceroot> !nox | usl12
[14:49] <ph8> if i want more than one nautilus window for example, is there some trick?
[14:50] <me-1> I cant install anything ...http://paste.ubuntu.com/752534/
[14:50] <iceroot> ph8: start it two times
[14:50] <ph8> i'm also on a three screen setup so going all the way to the left to get to the 'futuristic' task bar is a pain
[14:50] <e01> ph8, middle click
[14:50] <john21> has legacy systray of unity-2d been fixed in daily builds ppa?
[14:50] <ph8> and if i don't have a middle mouse button?
[14:50] <ph8> (i actually don't)
[14:50] <e01> right click and new window
[14:50] <ph8> if i right click i don't see a new window option
[14:50] <iceroot> me-1: output of "cat /etc/issue" and "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" please
[14:50] <iceroot> !paste | me-1
[14:51] <Gentoo64> ph8: you might need alt-right click or something like that
[14:51] <ph8> oh you mean from nautilus itself?
[14:51] <Gentoo64> ph8: whatever way its a pita
[14:51] <ph8> i want to do it from the task bar though
[14:51] <e01> if you want to switch between grouped application you have to click twice on the button (wich is totally insane)
[14:51] <ph8> this just feels really untested right?
[14:51] <ph8> like it's gone through no UAT whatsoever?
[14:51] <Gentoo64> yeah everyone hates it
[14:51] <ph8> it's not just me?
[14:51] <e01> ph8, no from the unity launcher, there is "New window" option
[14:51] <me-1> iceroot, Ubuntu 11.10 \n \l
[14:51] <ph8> so if i open the launcher, hover over the folder that opens 'home folder' (i.e. the quickest way to nautilus)
[14:51] <ph8> and i right click, i don't see a new window option
[14:52] <e01> ph8, just try the classic ubuntu or go to kde
[14:52] <ph8> but i can't go back to classic from oneiric without downgrading? or has that changed?
[14:52] <iceroot> ph8: gnome-panel is like gnome2
[14:52] <iceroot> !nounity | ph8
[14:52] <iceroot> ph8: but the real classic gnome2 is not available in 11.10
[14:52] <ph8> thanks :/
[14:53] <ph8> :/ for the complexity
[14:53] <ph8> thanks for the help
[14:53] <me-1> iceroot, http://paste.ubuntu.com/752537/
[14:53] <dr_willis> You click once on the button to show the groups.. then you can select specifkc windows and move them to other desktops - i think is the reason for the 2nd click being needed
[14:53] <Gentoo64> One day, Gnome has got to sort out a different fallback mode, one thats exactly like Gnome2
[14:53] <Gentoo64> otherwise no ones gona use it
[14:53] <iceroot> me-1: also please "apt-cache policy gimp"
[14:54] <iceroot> Gentoo64: like kde4? now everyone is using kde4 and not kde3 or any fallbacks to kde3
[14:54] <iceroot> Gentoo64: just a matter of time until gnome2 will be forgotten
[14:54] <Gentoo64> iceroot: kde hasnt changed drastically though
[14:54] <iceroot> Gentoo64: of course it has
[14:54] <Gentoo64> its always had the panel etc
[14:54] <iceroot> Gentoo64: from bad to very very bad
[14:55] <Gentoo64> lol
[14:55] <me-1> iceroot,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/752538/
[14:55] <Gentoo64> but the layout is still predictable
[14:55] <iceroot> me-1: sudo apt-get install -f
[14:55] <gappie> I added /home/itsblue1/Desktop/blue.sh to rc.local before the "exit 0". When i run rc.local the shell script executes, but on system startup it does not. Any ideas?
[14:55] <Gentoo64> i mean its stupid that people actually have to ask how to open a new program window
[14:55] <dr_willis> I think they should totally get rid of the fallback stuff. :) make people change!
[14:55] <me-1> iceroot,  the problem started when chrom .deb faild to install
[14:56] <dr_willis> gappie:  whats the exact line you have in  rc.local ?
[14:56] <Inumedia> For some reason the effects I enabled with CompizConfig doesn't seem to actually be enabled.  I've tried rebooting multiple times.
[14:56] <gappie> dr_willis : /home/itsblue1/Desktop/blue.sh
[14:56] <Inumedia> I've got the proprietary driver for ATI installed and working properly, could that still be the issue?
[14:56] <dr_willis> gappie:  and what does blue.sh do?
[14:56] <gappie> shell script
[14:57] <gappie> runs in continues loop
[14:57] <Gentoo64> Inumedia: no, youll need it for effects afaik
[14:57] <gappie> bluetooth functions
[14:57] <dr_willis> gappie:    and do you need it to run as root?
[14:57] <gappie> yes
[14:57] <Inumedia> What would cause the effects to just not work?
[14:57] <lucidguy> Is it extremely NOT recommended to attach a single server physically to multiple networks.  Example. WebServer with 3nics .. 1nic in DMZ public access and remaining 2 to two different local vlans?  Is that some sort of naughty bad best practice?
[14:57] <gappie> root access is in shell script
[14:57] <dr_willis> gappie:  you may want to be starging it with a & at the end.
[14:57] <dr_willis> gappie:  what do you mean root access is in shell script?
[14:57] <Yanch0>  on first boot (in live cd it was ok) just after posting, i get a lot of green bars and funny stuff on the monitor for a couple of seconds (Say 30) then the screen goes black- hard disk seems to be still active for another minute or so. any ideas what to look at pls ? this is my dmesg : http://pastebin.com/iVpX7wxt
[14:58] <Pici> lucidguy: Thats not really in-scope for this channel. ##networking may be a better place to ask
[14:58] <gappie> dr_willis : the sudo passwordis included in the shell script
[14:58] <me-1> iceroot,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/752540/  is it fine now
[14:58] <dr_willis> gappie:  err.. anything ran by rc.local is allready running as root.
[14:58] <lucidguy> Pici: gotcha .. it is an Ubuntu server.
[14:58] <dr_willis> gappie:  no need for  sudo
[14:58] <Pici> lucidguy: Still.
[14:58] <gappie> dr_willis : ok so what does the & do?
[14:58] <Wiz_KeeD> so how do i unzeip from /path/to/zip.zip and put it in /path/to/unzipped/location ?
[14:58] <dr_willis> spawns it to the background so it dosent hang rc.local
[14:59] <gappie> ok
[14:59] <gappie> so i wont see the echo commands?
[14:59] <dr_willis> running from rc.local you most likely wont see any commands anyway.
[14:59] <dr_willis> you are not starting any X apps/gui stuff from that script are you?
[14:59] <gappie> dr_willis : is it /home/itsblue1/Desktop/blue.sh & or no space "...blue.sh&"
[15:00] <gappie> no gui
[15:00] <dr_willis> bash 101.. no space. :)
[15:00] <gappie> will try it thanks
[15:00] <Pici> gappie: doesn't matter.
[15:00] <dr_willis> cant say ive really noticed.. :) i tend to  just do it from habbit.
[15:01] <Inumedia> Could it be that I just don't have something enabled?  I know that I disabled something in CompizConfig and everything just turned off and I had to re-enable everything manually.
[15:01] <dr_willis> i guess with a space is eaier to read
[15:01] <me-1> iceroot,  the problem is fixed thank you
[15:01] <dr_willis> gappie:  you most likely shold be putting that script in a better location. and if it still has issues. you may want to pastebin that script
[15:01] <gappie> dr_willis : where is a better location?
[15:02] <dr_willis> gappie:  anywhere other then your users desktop.. :)
[15:02] <gappie> oh you mean folder
[15:02] <dr_willis> gappie:  'directory' :P
[15:02] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[15:02] <gappie> dr_willis : so where then?
[15:03] <dr_willis>  /home/username/bin/  or /root/bin   or /opt/bin    somewhere where you wont accidnetlyd elete it.. and see it all the time..
[15:03] <gappie> it is a server system
[15:03] <gappie> so no desktop
[15:03] <dr_willis> gappie:   you can have desktops on server systems..
[15:03] <dr_willis> put it in your bin dir.. thats where scripts should go.
[15:03] <gappie> ok
[15:04] <gappie> still not woring
[15:04] <dr_willis> a neat and tidy system is a happy system...
[15:04] <dr_willis> pastebin the script perhaps..
[15:05] <skilz> gappie, I have a server with no monitor which I vnc into and use the desktop on my laptop
[15:05] <dr_willis> the 'server/desktop' defintion is a bit blury at times. :)
[15:06] <gappie> dr_willis : the script works. runs without problems. just not on startup
[15:06] <dr_willis> my 'desktop' machine is now a headless server.
[15:06] <dr_willis> gappie:  so its somthing the script is doing i imagine.. try a simpiler test script...
[15:06] <Gentoo64> dr_willis: whats tghe use of that?> lol
[15:06] <dr_willis> Gentoo64:  i needed the monitor for a differnt machine. :)
[15:07] <gappie> in ubuntu desktop i could get it running on system startup
[15:07] <dr_willis> Gentoo64:  so that desktop box got moved to the  basement. :) its my znc server for now.
[15:07] <gappie> ok have to go home
[15:07] <gappie> work day over
[15:07] <gappie> thanks anyway
[15:07] <nitin_> ping
[15:08] <nitin_> hi...i m new at linux....can i have help over dat
[15:08] <Gentoo64> nitin_: whats the problem
[15:09] <SpiderFred> hi i need some lightweight vpn client program I prefer programs with command line interface, any ideas?
[15:10] <chriswk> SpiderFred: have a look at openvpn
[15:14] <Wiz_KeeD> so how do i unzeip from /path/to/zip.zip and put it in /path/to/unzipped/location ?
[15:15] <geirha> Wiz_KeeD: (cd /path/to/unzipped && unzip /path/to/zip.zip)
[15:15] <martian> Wiz_KeeD: from a terminal? Try running 'man unzip' and take a look at the -d option
[15:16] <BluesKaj> Wiz_KeeD, cd to the location , unzip the file , then move the new unzipped folder to your desired path
[15:17] <maher> where do i find the packages for pre-hardy releases?
[15:17] <BluesKaj> !hardy
[15:18] <Pici> maher: old-releases.ubuntu.com, but you should highly consider upgrading.
[15:18] <biopyte> hi, i have problems a website not working with microsoft silverlight. i installed the moonlight packages ... still not working. any idea?
[15:19] <Timewarper> hey
[15:20] <Timewarper> does hard disk performance decrease when its loaded with more data/
[15:20] <Timewarper> ?
[15:20] <thisistheaussiet> Does anyone have this problem in Ubuntu? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcI-OfPQ3aU
[15:20] <auronandace> biopyte: convince them to stop using silverlight
[15:20] <richthegeek> hi - i want to swap the _ and - keys and can't figure out the xmodmap format for doing that. Anyone know how to do it properly?
[15:20] <Gentoo64> Timewarper: shouldnt do
[15:20] <maher> Pici: thanks
[15:21] <Gentoo64> Timewarper: i think ssds performance goes down the more its full though
[15:21] <Luke> Does anyone know what the new gear/on-off indicator menu is called on the top right of the screen?
[15:21] <maher> Timewarper: usually slightly
[15:21] <biopyte> auronandace: you are right, usually i wouldnt give a damn, but this particular website i would like running ... whatever i give up ... i dont see a chance to work that out
[15:22] <auronandace> biopyte: could use a vm
[15:23] <tjingboem> where is the file for the autostart applications?
[15:23] <biopyte> right
[15:23] <auronandace> biopyte: a vm would be a bit overkill just for silverlight though
[15:23]  * teddie runs a vm for shockwave
[15:23] <auronandace> lol
[15:24] <recon69_lap> hi all, anyone got information on when network manager will not connect to wireless ap without a reboot
[15:24] <biopyte> correct, i better forget it
[15:25] <recon69_lap> getting sick of rebooting ubuntu repeatedly , starting to make me think of trying out windows again, 2 reboots today already
[15:27] <Tebyghenya> Hi! I have an offline Ubuntu 11.10. I want to make it read .mp3/.avi files. Do you know how? Google/Yahoo don't give me answers.
[15:27] <auronandace> !aptoncd | Tebyghenya
[15:27] <Tebyghenya> Ok, can I get it from synapticon?
[15:28] <Tebyghenya> Yes I can. Let's install it.
[15:30] <sereal> has anyone had any luck getting dual monitors working with a ati 6950?
[15:31] <sereal> I'm doing a dist upgrade to ubuntu 11.10 right now see if that makes any difference
[15:31] <apol> i'd like to try unity2d on my netbook. what do I have to download? the desktop version?
[15:31] <Tebyghenya> Just installed aptoncd. Let's see it.
[15:31] <Tebyghenya> apol: yes, the normal version from ubuntu.org
[15:31] <Tebyghenya> apol: the version 11.10
[15:32] <apol> ok, thank you Tebyghenya :)
[15:32] <sereal> apol, do you have ubuntu already installed?
[15:32] <NixGeek> I'm trying to remove sun-java6-jre from my server, but it wants to install openjdk6 automatically.  How can I stop it from installing and remove the old java?
[15:33] <Tebyghenya> If I know how to make aptoncd it will be fantastic! I just read the description of the program
[15:33] <apol> sereal: i want to nuke what i have, so it's ok
[15:33] <apol> :P
[15:33] <Tebyghenya> *how to make aptoncd run
[15:33] <Tebyghenya> apol: XD
[15:34] <apol> btw, is it possible to create a usb stick without this gui app?
[15:34] <apol> i don't have an ubuntu system to do so
[15:34] <sereal> why do you want to get rid of what you have?
[15:34] <NixGeek> apol: I don't think so on windows
[15:34] <apol> sereal: it's a broken opensuse install where I was playing with plasma active beta versions
[15:34] <Tebyghenya> apol: yes you can.
[15:34] <Tebyghenya> apol: what OS do you have?
[15:35] <apol> Tebyghenya: an opensuse and an archlinux
[15:35] <Tebyghenya> apol: at least you don't have windows XD
[15:35] <NixGeek> Tebyghenya: a-man
[15:35] <apol> ¬¬ what do you mean by "at least"
[15:36] <Tebyghenya> apol: I don't know what you might have understand. ENglish is not my mother tonge.
[15:36] <Tebyghenya> apol: I wasn't insulting you btw.
[15:36] <apol> :p i know
[15:36] <apol> none taken :)
[15:36] <orkester> can anyone help? I'm trying to compile my first C program, and I'm getting an error code
[15:37] <Tebyghenya> orkester: you should ask in a C room then.
[15:37] <apol> Tebyghenya: can you tell me how? will just a regular dd work?
[15:37] <Gentoo64> orkester, why not as in c
[15:37] <Tebyghenya> apol: yeah, yeah, I am in.
[15:37] <apol> ok sorry :)
[15:37] <dr_willis> apol:  you can use dd for the 11.10  cd iso files
[15:37] <spoq>  -_-
[15:37] <orkester> sorry, new to IRC too
[15:37] <orkester> thanks
[15:37] <dr_willis> apol:  but that wont work with older releases
[15:38] <apol> awesome
[15:39] <dr_willis> apol:  theres also tools at the pendrivelinux web site (and guides) on making bootable flash drives
[15:39] <truefx> how can i assign run commant to windows+R keys instead of Alt+F2 ?
[15:39] <ecu_> buenas tardes, tengo un problemilla con el grub, sin cambiar nada de la noche a la mañana a dejado de hacer la cuenta atras y arrancar automaticamente porque puede ser? he realizado un update-grub sin mucho resultado
[15:40] <ecu_> good afternoon, I have a little problem with grub, without changing anything about overnight has left to do the countdown and boot automatically because it can be? I did a update-grub without much result
[15:40] <apol> dr_willis: i'm fine with using the console
[15:40] <truefx> dr_willis, how can i assign run commant to windows+R keys instead of Alt+F2 ?
[15:40] <Tebyghenya> apol: it is hard to find a program.
[15:41] <Tebyghenya> apol: I think that you could install WIne and try this program
[15:41] <apol> uh oh
[15:41] <apol> I think you're workarounding a lot xD
[15:41] <Gentoo64> apol, arch has unetbootinm
[15:41] <Gentoo64> afaik
[15:42] <Tebyghenya> apol: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3
[15:42] <Tebyghenya> apol: yeah XD
[15:42] <gingerboy92> #ubuntu-my user ?
[15:44] <Reikoku> OK, going to ask another awkward question which seems to have no documentation anywhere: how do I remove indicators from the unity-2d panel? It appears that the whitelist method to remove Skype from the panel only worked in 3d...
[15:45] <dr_willis> truefx:  no idea. I rarely use the gui
[15:46] <binni> how do I know which device in /dev/ is my microphone, the microphone is in my webcam and the camera on my webcam is /dev/video0
[15:46] <BluesKaj> BBL, stuff to do
[15:46] <pauluntu> I installed sun java and removed openjdk now Pogo runs games but I have no audio on the games any idea on how to fix this
[15:46] <Reikoku> OK, going to ask another awkward question which seems to have no documentation anywhere: how do I remove indicators from the unity-2d panel? It appears that the whitelist method to remove Skype from the panel only worked in 3d...
[15:47] <Yanch0> how to remove nvidia-current from your machine and install legacy drivers pls? its oneirc
[15:48] <Gentoo64> Yanch0, go into the additional driver bit
[15:48] <Gentoo64> same way you installed them
[15:48] <Gentoo64> should be in the system settings, if not try jockey-gtk in terminal (might need sudo)
[15:49] <binni> audio recording works yet I can't find the device in /dev/, neither dsp* or audio* is in there, where is it?
[15:49] <Yanch0> Gentoo64, can't get more than console. modprobe nvidia is showing: FATAL: Error inserting nvidia_current_updates (/lib/modules/3.0.0-13-generic/updates/dkms/nvidia_current_updates.ko): No such device and  The NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600 GPU installed in this system is supported through the NVIDIA 173.14.xx Legacy drivers. Please
[15:49] <sereal> Yanch0, your first mistake was using a nvidia card
[15:50] <Gentoo64> ?
[15:50] <pauluntu> funny i switched to nvidia cause everyone complained about ati now i am on nvidia and everyone complaining about that
[15:50] <biopyte> i know there is a download in the background writing to a file on my hdd, but i dont know which one? how can i find out where the download is written to?
[15:50] <Gentoo64> Yanch0, no idea if apt-get remove nvidia-current works
[15:51] <Gentoo64> pauluntu, nvidia is good
[15:51] <Gentoo64> its the best
[15:52] <Yanch0> pauluntu, make that +1
[15:52] <Gentoo64> well nvidia has the best drivers, and cuda and vdpau
[15:53] <ecu_> someone could helpme with a Grup problem?
[15:54] <Reikoku> OK, going to ask another awkward question which seems to have no documentation anywhere: how do I remove indicators from the unity-2d panel? It appears that the whitelist method to remove Skype from the panel only worked in 3d...
[15:54] <pauluntu> weird firefox opens pogo games but no audio chromium doesn't open them at all :-( lord its either play with no audio or dont play at all
[15:55] <dr_willis> pauluntu:  try Opera :)
[15:55] <ahmadsubri> hai
[15:55] <richthegeek> hi - i want to swap the _ and - keys and can't figure out the xmodmap format for doing that. Anyone know how to do it properly?
[15:58] <pauluntu> anyone here use Mint?  I wonder if pogo will work with it or not, weird how it doesn't work with ubuntu i mean its just a java applet
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> pauluntu  yes, but this is not the right place
[15:58] <Reikoku> pauluntu: Which JRE are you using?
[15:58] <auronandace> !mint | pauluntu
[15:58] <Reikoku> OK, going to ask another awkward question which seems to have no documentation anywhere: how do I remove indicators from the unity-2d panel? It appears that the whitelist method to remove Skype from the panel only worked in 3d...
[15:59] <pauluntu> Reikoku, Sun Java 6
[16:00] <jrib> richthegeek: i guess you would change keycode N = minus underscore_   to keycode N = underscore minus   where N corresponds to the appropriate key (hint: xmodmap -pke)
[16:00] <jrib> s/_//
[16:01] <Reikoku> pauluntu: Using Ubuntu 11.10, Firefox 10 and icedtea, I can play Poppit with audio on pogo.com
[16:02] <Reikoku> pauluntu: Which games dont work?
[16:03] <pauluntu> Reikoku, Hog Heaven
[16:03] <pauluntu> Reikoku, I'm a sucker for slot machines :P
[16:03] <Reikoku> Any free games I can try? :P
[16:05] <pauluntu> Reikoku, ali baba slots is free with no sound
[16:06] <Reikoku> pauluntu: Hog Heaven crashed my Firefox outright :P
[16:06] <raven> how to write date and times to files in format yyyy-mm-dd--hh.mm.ss?
[16:06] <fhussain> I get no sound on login. WHat should I check. I'm using startx with .xinitrc. It has pulseaudio --daemonize and start-pulseaudio-x11
[16:07] <Reikoku> Going to ask another awkward question which seems to have no documentation anywhere: how do I remove indicators from the unity-2d panel? It appears that the whitelist method to remove Skype from the panel only worked in 3d...
[16:07] <Reikoku> pauluntu: Yeah these are straight up crashing my Firefox :S
[16:07] <sharpK> does anyone know of a program to display dd-wrt stats (bandwidth monitor, etc) on the desktop?
[16:08] <sharpK> and possibly log those stats?
[16:08] <pauluntu> Reikoku, yeah openjdk does that, thats why i had to install the real java :P
[16:08] <Gentoo64> sharpK, can you not view them in the router? Tomato has a bandwidth monitor
[16:08] <apol> dr_willis: dd worked great
[16:08] <apol> thanks
[16:09] <sharpK> Gentoo64, I can view them in the browser with DD-wrt, but I was wondering if there is an app that can acutally show this (all the status tabs) on the desktop, and be able to log this kind of activity for extended periods...
[16:10] <Gentoo64> sharpK, not as far as i know. i think youd need a comp to act as the router to log it all that way. i could be wrong though
[16:10] <sharpK> Gentoo64 Thanks anywhoos
[16:10] <Gentoo64> but the only app would be the browser afaik
[16:11] <Gentoo64> you should be able to choose a log destination to a comp from ddwrt
[16:11] <Gentoo64> i think
[16:12] <sharpK> ill look into it thanks
[16:13] <pauluntu> Reikoku, I fixed it :P it required doing some editing to the java.bin file
[16:15] <pauluntu> last problem on my list :P skype.  The camera works but when skype loads the audio is really staticy anyone know how to fix this bug
[16:18] <Kyle__> How do you get real cdrecord & it's associated tools in 10.04?
[16:21] <dr_willis> !info cdrecord
[16:21] <dr_willis> look for a ppa or use source I am guessing
[16:22] <Baewyn_Celara_> !info kino
[16:22] <Kyle__> dr_willis: I found ppas, but they don't go past hardy.
[16:22] <Kyle__> I've never had anything but dissapointment with wodim & it's tools (especially it's mkisofs!).
[16:22] <dr_willis> i thought cdrecord was a dead project.. ive never had any issues with wodim
[16:23] <Reikoku> pauluntu: Works with 64-bit Oracle java 7 plugin with no messing
[16:24] <Kyle__> dr_willis: No, not at all dead.  What happened was some zealots didn't like schilly's build tools, forked an _old_ cdrecord, called it wodim, and broke several things, before fixing or updating anything.
[16:24] <pauluntu> Reikoku, yeah I got it working :P I'm gonna wait on java 7 till oracle releases it since it is still in development
[16:24] <Kyle__> dr_willis: Mostly it was polittical.
[16:24] <Reikoku> Going to ask another awkward question which seems to have no documentation anywhere: how do I remove indicators from the unity-2d panel? It appears that the whitelist method to remove Skype from the panel only worked in 3d...
[16:24] <AFD> any idea how I can add the novacut ppa? I get command not found when I try sudo add-apt-repository ppa:novacut/stable
[16:24] <Reikoku> pauluntu: Yeah, I'm a bleeding edge kinda guy, using Firefox Aurora channel :P
[16:25] <raven> how to do timelapse webcam like recordings with (c)vlc
[16:25] <Baewyn_Celara_> Hi I need a little help to get a MiniDV Camcorder working with Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty).
[16:26] <Reikoku> pauluntu: I've asked so many questions in this channel and got little help with them :/ ended up solving most of mine myself as well
[16:26] <pauluntu> Reikoku, now i just need to get skype working.  The camera works but when skype starts up the audio is all staticy can't figure that one out
[16:26] <dsfUbu11> hello people
[16:26] <Reikoku> pauluntu: No idea, sorry, my Skype seems fine out of the box except that I can't get rid of that vile green icon on unity-2d
[16:26] <genii-around> AFD: python-software-properties is the package which contains the program add-apt-repository
[16:26] <AFD> pauluntu: if you go to the full sound options from the speaker icon on the dock can you see the mic settings?
[16:27] <AFD> genii-around: thanks - I'll make sure that's installed first
[16:27] <pauluntu> AFD, no
[16:28] <AFD> pauluntu: there's no mic in the settings? is it gnome you're using?
[16:28] <dsfUbu11> i have problems with my session on enter Xorg, anybody can heklp me?
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> !ask| Baewyn_Celara_ dsfUbu11
[16:28] <pauluntu> AFD, I mis understood you earlier yeah in sound I have my input device which is the webcam
[16:28] <AFD> genii-around: I still get command not found after installing python-software-properties
[16:29] <Baewyn_Celara_> !ask
[16:29] <dsfUbu11> The server X11 restart again when i enter on my session
[16:29] <Baewyn_Celara_> !patience
[16:29] <AFD> pauluntu: and it's turned up, unmuted etc? You might have to tick a box in the skype options that is "let skype manage mic"
[16:30] <jelly> IppatsuMan: tell aptitude you Reject removal of ffmpeg, for example.  "r 2"
[16:30] <genii-around> AFD: If you do: sudo ls       does it say same thing? eg: is sudo itself installed?
[16:30] <pauluntu> AFD, the mic isn't my problem its the audio is staticy.  If i make a test call and the operator is talking its all static sounding any sound output from skype is static
[16:30] <jelly> IppatsuMan: then tell it to find a different solution based on your hint: "n"
[16:31] <AFD> pauluntu: what sound driver are you using?
[16:31] <jelly> IppatsuMan: this way you can iteratively tune aptitude's solution finder
[16:31] <AFD> I think pulseaudio is better than ALSA - I can't remmeber
[16:32] <dsfUbu11> where i find information for this problem?
[16:32] <pauluntu> AFD, i have no idea but since i'm hooked up via hdmi on an nvidia card I guess its their driver.  Skype is the only application with audio problems though pandora plays fine
[16:32] <dsfUbu11> i have problems with my session on enter Xorg, anybody can heklp me?
[16:32] <dsfUbu11> where i find information for this problem?
[16:32] <dsfUbu11> where i find information for this problem?
[16:32] <FloodBot1> dsfUbu11: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:33] <AFD> try getting the info for the audio driver and ask one of the gurus here if it's best to use ALSA or pulseaudio over what you have now
[16:33] <dsfUbu11> The server X11 restart again when i enter on my session
[16:33] <Reikoku> dsfUbu11: If my experience here so far is anything to go by, you could be waiting a LOOOONG time ^^
[16:33] <AFD> skype can be picky about drivers I think
[16:33] <dsfUbu11> ok
[16:33] <sipior> dsfUbu11: you'll find that providing more details will improve the likelihood of a repsonse.
[16:34] <jelly> IppatsuMan: can you pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy libavutil-extra-51 libavutil51"
[16:34] <pauluntu> AFD, I know i can't change any audio on skype since its pulseaudio
[16:34] <Baewyn_Celara_> Would asking questions about IEEE 1394 support be more productive on the UbuntuStudio channel even if I'm not using Studio?
[16:34] <AFD> pauluntu: then maybe it's ALSA you want to try
[16:35] <Reikoku> Going to ask another awkward question which seems to have no documentation anywhere: how do I remove indicators from the unity-2d panel? It appears that the whitelist method to remove Skype from the panel only worked in 3d...
[16:35] <IppatsuMan> jelly: http://paste.ubuntu.com/752631/ . The output of aptitude after using "r <id>" is like: "Remove the following packages: 1)   R   audacity 2)       ffmpeg" and stays pretty much similar even if I add al the packages using "r <id>"
[16:36] <rildo_ras> hi people
[16:36] <ThePendulum> I was wondering, is there a way to get a Gnome 2 experience in Ubuntu 11.10? I really dislike the new interface both Gnome 3 and Unity have, and I did try it for a few months. However, I don't like running an outdated OS either.
[16:36] <rildo_ras> what the name of forensic channel ?
[16:36] <jelly> IppatsuMan: yes, that's just the refresh for you to see what you chose.  Next you tell it "n" to try harder
[16:37] <oCean> !alis | rildo_ras
[16:37] <Baewyn_Celara_> Is there a Ubuntu Classic login option on 11.10?
[16:37] <Baewyn_Celara_> That might help ThePendulum.
[16:38] <dr_willis> i tweak  unity to what i like :)
[16:38] <ThePendulum> Baewyn_Celara_: There isn't, the default fallback for 11.10 is just Gnome 3 without '3D'
[16:38] <Baewyn_Celara_> ouch
[16:38] <dr_willis> !nounity
[16:38] <jelly> IppatsuMan: there is also a syntax to tell aptitude to install a package and remove another one in the command line.
[16:38] <ThePendulum> dr_willis: The issue is, I don't like the entire idea behind the new interface both Unity and Gnome 3 have :P
[16:38] <IppatsuMan> jelly: pressing "n" just gives me the same list, with more "R"s
[16:38] <van7hu> !dapper
[16:38] <dr_willis> the fallback mode is sorta like g2
[16:38] <ThePendulum> To me it just looks the same tbh...
[16:38] <jelly> IppatsuMan: can you pastebin that output?
[16:38] <deej1976> ThePendulum: Install xubuntu-desktop
[16:38] <dr_willis> ThePendulum:  lubuntu, or xubuntu
[16:39] <pauluntu> AFD, well weird I installed pavcontroler and static sound is gone once i open pavcontroler and close it.   The static noise comes back though upon reboot unless i open that pulse audio controler at least once
[16:39] <dr_willis> for old skool desktops
[16:39] <IppatsuMan> jelly: http://paste.ubuntu.com/752636/ (just a sample, it does not change much)
[16:40] <dr_willis> i imageine someday someone will make gnome-shell look/act more like the old gnome.. but  no one wants to :) yet.
[16:40] <jelly> IppatsuMan: ah, end of the line: *** No more solutions available ***
[16:40] <ThePendulum> dr_willis: That would be MATE, but that's still quite unstable
[16:41] <dr_willis> ThePendulum:  no.. mate is not the same as what i am talking about.
[16:41] <ThePendulum> dr_willis: I guess you mean no one wants to make one yet? Because I can give you a list of a few hundred names who share my opinion about the new enviroments :P
[16:41] <cityfountain> can somebody help me batch rename file names? i want to change all the 64s to 32s in a folder, and i cant figure out regular expressions
[16:41] <dr_willis> Gnome-shell is very scriptable.. but very new.. so  theres not a lot of work done into it yet.
[16:41] <IppatsuMan> jelly: I don't want to waste your time, I was just curious because I thought aptitude was the smart one. I'll look for a way to tell it to remove a package and substitute with another one
[16:42] <jelly> IppatsuMan: it's smart with well made packages
[16:42] <dr_willis> ThePendulum:  tell them to get scripting in gnome-shell then i guess.
[16:42] <jelly> IppatsuMan: these two... are not well made.
[16:42] <ThePendulum> dr_willis: The thing I really hate is that I can't customize it like I could with Gnome 2. I liked the way I could just drag and drop, and configure things by right-clicking on them, the way it should work
[16:42] <dr_willis> ThePendulum:  i imagine theres peoplke doing it allready. but ive not paid attention to the gnome-shell stuff lately
[16:43] <jelly> IppatsuMan: there is also a syntax to tell aptitude to install a package and remove another one in the command line, what happens with: aptitude install libavutil51 libavutil-extra-51-
[16:43] <ThePendulum> I don't see why you would make things harder
[16:43] <dr_willis> gnome2 was lacking in a lot of ways in teh customizeablity area.. but its dead so not worth harpingon.  :)
[16:43] <jelly> IppatsuMan: note the tailing -
[16:43] <ThePendulum> dr_willis: Did Gnome 3 add more customizeability then? :P
[16:43] <dr_willis> gnome shell and unity are works in progress..  and advanceing with every releae
[16:44] <dr_willis> ThePendulum:  it  is written mainly in javascript.. so yes it has.
[16:44] <dr_willis> it just dosent have nice user-friendly tools yet.
[16:44] <dr_willis> 'yet'
[16:44] <ThePendulum> The fact that the Gnome 3 sidepanel takes up half my screen is frustrating me in the first place
[16:44] <IppatsuMan> jelly: bingo. It works. I have to use "aptitude -s install libavutil51 libavcodec53 libavutil-extra-51- libavcodec-extra-53-" due to extra dependencies, but it works
[16:45] <jelly> IppatsuMan: you may or may not notify the "medibuntu" people their package dependencies need improvement
[16:46] <IppatsuMan> jelly: however, I don't know how I would make it work if dependencies were more complicated than that
[16:46] <Exxon> Gentoo64 are you there
[16:46] <jelly> IppatsuMan: a dirtier workaround is to first dpkg --remove --force-depends the current package, and then let "apt-get -f install" or "aptitude -f install" autofix the dependencies
[16:47] <jelly> this would need to be done carefully
[16:47] <IppatsuMan> jelly: however, is not a problem of medibuntu packages. It is broken with ubuntu official repositories too
[16:47] <Exxon> hi, too you all :))
[16:48] <IppatsuMan> (I knew about dpkg, but I didn't want to mess up my system)
[16:48] <jelly> IppatsuMan: it's not, because libavutil-extra-51 doesn't seem to exist in oneiric AT ALL
[16:48] <jelly> based on your policy paste
[16:48] <jelly> I didn't check the actual repos
[16:48] <Kenjiro> good afternoon
[16:48] <llutz> !info libavutil-extra-51
[16:49] <Exxon> Kenjiro, night in other places..welcome
[16:50] <CadetX> does anyone know what 0xFF and 0x00 represent?
[16:50] <Reikoku> Going to ask another awkward question which seems to have no documentation anywhere: how do I remove indicators from the unity-2d panel? It appears that the whitelist method to remove Skype from the panel only worked in 3d... *sigh*
[16:50] <mufaza> hi. I am trying to forward to a webserver behind VPN.   UBUNTU SERVER (eth0 205.34.123.42) (tun0 VPN SERER 10.8.0.1)  <->  UBNUTN SERVER 2 VPN 10.8.0.6 webserver on port 80
[16:50] <mufaza> so packers destand for UBUNTU SERVER (eth0 205.34.123.42:80) need to go to  UBNUTN SERVER 2 VPN 10.8.0.6:80
[16:50] <mufaza> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.9.0.6:80
[16:50] <mufaza> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i tun0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 80
[16:50] <FloodBot1> mufaza: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:50] <Kenjiro> Exxon: indeed hehehhe
[16:50] <gulzar> how to make gtk apps like vlc,systemmonitor, tansmission look GOOD in openbox? The apps look like win98
[16:50] <mufaza> i cant get it to work. do I need to add a route?
[16:51] <jelly> IppatsuMan: arlight then, I'll take your work for it being broken in ubuntu as well. :-)
[16:51] <mufaza> FloodBot1 sorry about thatm it looked much smaller in my notepad :)
[16:51] <PwrSurge> hello
[16:51] <jrib>  gulzar try running gnome-settings-daemon
[16:51]  * mufaza is talking to a bot again
[16:51] <jaequery> hey guys, anyone know of a tutorial to install ssl to apache with ubuntu 10.04+ ?
[16:51] <auronandace> gulzar: vlc uses qt not gtk
[16:51] <jelly> ubottu: what are you
[16:51] <Exxon> mufaza, please don't do that again we can read someone familiar with your question will answer
[16:52] <jelly> ubottu: who owns you
[16:52] <PwrSurge> I just upgraded to 11.10 but I don't get any video now with my ATI graphics card
[16:52] <gulzar> auronandace: ya but there are others also
[16:52] <PwrSurge> X does not fully load
[16:52] <gulzar> auronandace: how to make them look good
[16:52] <CadetX> does anyone know what 0xFF and 0x00 represent?
[16:52] <phunyguy_work> !botabuse | jelly
[16:52] <jrib> gulzar: did you try what I said?
[16:52] <PwrSurge> any ideas on what to try?
[16:52] <PwrSurge> I even tried the latest ati driver from the amd site
[16:52] <gulzar> jrib: I was going to ask that.. what to do with settings daemon?
[16:52] <jrib> gulzar: run it
[16:52] <PwrSurge> still does not work
[16:53] <llutz> CadetX: in what context?
[16:53] <jelly> phunyguy_work: thanks
[16:53] <CadetX> numbers
[16:53] <nicofs> Hello! I have issues with my network connection, can someone help? It is somewhat unstable and according to ping i have about 10% packet loss. My phone and my other PCs don't have that issue but use the same network... any ideas where to start?
[16:53] <PwrSurge> Starting LightDM Display Manager [fail]
[16:53] <llutz> CadetX: hexadecimal ff=256, 00=0
[16:53] <mufaza> jaequery    http://pastebin.com/mY54qskT
[16:53] <PwrSurge> it stops here
[16:53] <Exxon> PwrSurge, i would suggest with default vesa drivers as ati don't support any more
[16:53] <gulzar> jrib: but I am on openbox . No gnome here
[16:53] <PwrSurge> what is LightDM?
[16:54] <llutz> CadetX: err, ff=255
[16:54] <jrib> gulzar: yes, so?
[16:54] <auronandace> PwrSurge: login manager
[16:54] <CadetX> llutz, its supposed to be 0xFF = 1
[16:54] <CadetX> its supposed to write all 1 on the drive
[16:54] <Reikoku> Are there no unity-2d developers in here? I'm really surprised that nobody can tell me how to remove an indicator from the panel...
[16:54] <CadetX> using my wipe utility
[16:55] <gulzar> jrib: so I have only things ralated with openbox not with gnome.. I will install it and try
[16:55] <llutz> CadetX: so its not numbers, hence i asked. no idea what your utility is/does
[16:55] <jrib> gulzar: there may be a better way, but I don't know it
[16:56] <llutz> CadetX: 0xff 0 binary "1111 1111"  maybe thats meant with ff=1
[16:56] <CadetX> ooh
[16:56] <CadetX> yes it said to fill the disk with 11111
[16:57] <CadetX> and 0x00 with 00000
[16:57] <javier__> hi
[16:57] <llutz> CadetX: since 0x00 = 0000 0000
[16:57] <akaluptos> hi
[16:57] <CadetX> smart then
[16:57] <pconwell> how can I disable eth1 persistantly? I know I can do ifdown eth1, but that doesn't persist across reboots.
[16:57] <akaluptos> kamia ellinida?
[16:57] <Reikoku> Are there no unity-2d developers in here? I'm really surprised that nobody can tell me how to remove an indicator from the panel... that Skype icon looks horrible. Also, how to maximise the dash by default in 11.10... (counting on you, #ubuntu)
[16:58] <oCean> !gr | akaluptos
[16:58] <javier__> i want to know which program uses canonical to make the "Take a tour" in the web
[16:58] <javier__> anyone knows?
[16:59] <javier__> hi?
[16:59] <Exxon> pconwell, if you have external usb simplliy make it up ignore eth1 then
[17:00] <pconwell> Exxon: I don't understand
[17:00] <javier__> anybody knows which program uses canonical to make the "Take a tour" in the web? It's open source?
[17:01] <oCean> javier__: Not sure, but I expect it to be custom made
[17:01] <Exxon> pconwell, why you are trying to do so
[17:01] <riffautae> patience | javier__
[17:01] <ChesterX> good evening, can i use gparted to resize (make it smaller) my active ubuntu partition? (I don't have any other os installed for the moment)
[17:01] <riffautae> !patience | javier__
[17:01] <ThinkT510> ChesterX: you'll need to do that from a livecd
[17:01] <pconwell> exxon, I have eth0 and eht1. At one point, I enabled eth1, but now I don't need it and services keep running on eth1
[17:02] <pconwell> Exxon: so I want to disable it so everything will run on eth0
[17:02] <jrib> gulzar: ok, I have another way for you... you can put settings in ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini .  For example, use this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/752664/ and make sure you have gnome-themes-standard installed
[17:02] <ChesterX> ThinkT510, why do I need to do it from a livecd?
[17:02] <jrib> but he left of course...
[17:02] <ThinkT510> ChesterX: you can't resize a partition that is already mounted
[17:03] <Exxon> pconwell, if you are wired with eth0 then there no need for eth1 by the command you give is totally down..let the light blink ..
[17:03] <Marine1> 5.1 working in all desktop apps but in open browser only 2 front and rear working need help solving this puzzle
[17:03] <pconwell> Exxon: I found what I needed /etc/network/interfaces
[17:03] <pconwell> I just commented out the eth1 lines
[17:03] <ChesterX> ThinkT510, ok. Will I need to restore the bootloader or fix the ubuntu partition?
[17:04] <ThinkT510> ChesterX: no
[17:04] <pconwell> Exxon: I don't think you unerstand what I am saying
[17:04] <ThinkT510> ChesterX: i've never had to
[17:04] <pconwell> Exxon: but I got it fixed, so everything is fine
[17:04] <Exxon> pconwell, well be it that way..sry
[17:04] <ChesterX> ThinkT510, thank you. Last question: Any suggestion regarding which livecd I should use?
[17:05] <ThinkT510> ChesterX: i like partedmagic
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> ChesterX  any live cd you are familiar with
[17:06] <Marine1> 5.1 working in all desktop apps but in open browser only 2 front and rear working need help solving this puzzle
[17:06] <jaequery> mufaza: thx
[17:06] <MonkeyDust> Marine1  what's 5.1 ?
[17:06] <dr_willis> Marine1:  and how are you testing that in the browser?
[17:06] <Exxon> pconwell, well how do you do it ..can you share it with us
[17:06] <ChesterX> MonkeyDust, the only live cd I used until now were Ubuntu and BT. Am I able to use the Ubuntu one to do this?
[17:07] <riffautae> Marine1: what particular web sites are you testing this with?
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> ChesterX  ubuntu has gparted, so yes
[17:07] <ThinkT510> ChesterX: if it has gparted then yes
[17:07] <Marine1> basicxally youtube and ohter channels
[17:07] <milen8204> Hello guys, I have a little problem, I cant move my windows whit the mouse, what should  I do?
[17:07] <ChesterX> I am using the basic ubuntu 11.04 edition (liveusb)
[17:08] <Marine1> riffautae: should i make pulseaudio default
[17:08] <milen8204> I am sind Ubuntu 11.10 whit gnome-shell 3
[17:08] <milen8204> using*
[17:08] <Exxon> milen8204, restart windows
[17:08] <riffautae> Marine1: so adobe flash content? right click a flash app and go properties to see if there is a setting in there that is relevent
[17:08] <milen8204> Exxon, what do you mean ?
[17:09] <Marine1> dr_willis: noyt testing browser just going to different sites and playing videos
[17:09] <riffautae> milen8204: your window manager crashed or something like virtual box is stealing focus, restart teh system or xorg
[17:10] <dr_willis> Marine1:  so.. you are playing flash videos?
[17:10] <milen8204> riffautae, can you tell me how to do that ?
[17:10] <jaequery> mufaza, but what is the purpose of installing libapache2-mod-auth-mysql ?
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> milen8204  if you're using vbox, press right ctrl
[17:11] <milen8204> MonkeyDust, no I do not use V-box
[17:11] <Blazento> hi i'm having trouble downloading with apt-get on my server... i tried apt-get install libcurl4-openssl-dev and now im getting a string of messages such as Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty-updates/main libgssrpc4 amd64 1.8.3+dfsg-5ubuntu2.1
[17:11] <Blazento>   404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.31 80]
[17:11] <Marine1> dr_willis: yes but can't hear all 6 speakers basically but in all other apps like vlc, movie player all work just fine
[17:12] <milen8204> I can`t move the app`s windows like this one , I can just maximize, minimize, and close them
[17:12] <ThinkT510> Blazento: have you done sudo apt-get update first?
[17:12] <riffautae> Blazento: do other websites work? eg can you ping google.com
[17:12] <dr_willis> Marine1:  if the site is only supplying 2.1 or 3.1 sound.. you are expecting  your system to just clone the output to the rear?
[17:12] <Blazento> ahh sudo apt-get update did the trick thanks!
[17:13] <ThinkT510> Blazento: no worries :)
[17:13] <Marine1> dr_willis: good point but I had pulse audio as my default sound device before and I didn't have this problem
[17:14] <dr_willis> check the pavcontrol settings and tools i guess Marine1
[17:14] <lcb> hi. looks like " linux-backports-modules-alsa*" doesn't exist anymore on Oneiric...  From where could I install it, since i need some drivers for alsa (audio device not detected -> Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02))
[17:14] <Marine1> dr_willis: now my default card is hda nvidia
[17:14] <jaequery> what is the cheapest SSL you can buy these days?
[17:15] <dr_willis> Marine1:  you using the hdmi cable to a monitor? it may be defaulting to that.
[17:15] <oCean> jaequery: ?
[17:15] <jaequery> a ca root certificate
[17:15] <sheepherd> so ive seen a video on youtube but it has been deleted. didnt quit firefox yet, so is it possible to get is back outta the cache? right now im manually searching for it in ~/.mozilla/firefox/x.default/Cache/.F
[17:15] <oCean> jaequery: how is that an #ubuntu issue?
[17:15] <jaequery> because im installing SSL on ubuntu
[17:16] <ergj-> im having problems setting up a linksys 2500 usb wireless using wpa-personal using ubuntu
[17:17] <ergj-> im also using ndiswrapper
[17:17] <oCean> jaequery: that still does not make your current question an #ubuntu issue. There is #cacert channel, or maybe other more appropriate channels
[17:17] <Marine1> dr_willis: yes but like I said the desktop apps work fine not the open browser videos
[17:17] <Exxon> jaequery, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSSL
[17:18] <Yanch0>  on first boot (in live cd it was ok) just after posting, i get a lot of green bars and funny stuff on the monitor for a couple of seconds (Say 30) then the screen goes black- hard disk seems to be still active for another minute or so. any ideas what to look at pls ? this is my logs:  http://pastebin.com/e5sZt8C4 <- asking again maybe someone can enlightin me pls
[17:19] <ThePendulum> So I just upgraded to Ubuntu 11.10. Where can I edit some JavaScript? :p
[17:19] <milen8204> Is there any compiz settings for windows?
[17:19] <ThinkT510> ThePendulum: on the internet... have fun
[17:19] <ThePendulum> ThinkT510: I mean for Gnome 3, of course
[17:19] <ThePendulum> Btw, is there a way to move items within the launcher?
[17:20] <phrosty> WHat is the name of the application to put an iso on a flash drive to be able to boot into it to install
[17:20] <Marine1> dr_willis: i just check all pusleaudio volume settings seems fine
[17:20] <atlef> phrosty, unetbootin
[17:20] <Baccari> phrosty, universal-usb-installer
[17:21] <Marine1> dr_willis: pavcontrols
[17:21] <sereal> Hi, i'm having some problems with the mouse in gnome windows. Basically in unity or what ever the default is now, I can't left click on certain things. (i had to power cycle to log out :/ ) Openbox works, so this is clearly not a issue with my mouse, but gnome windows, like the gnome control panel left click doesn't work. Is there a solution to this or should I just stop using ubuntu now?
[17:22] <Marine1> dr_willis: all is fine there
[17:22] <sereal> (i'm running ubuntu 11.10, just did a dist upgrade from 11.04 and I hadn't noticed this was the problem, but I had not used that system much
[17:23] <Marine1> dr_willis: do you have any suggestions in how i can get all 6 speakers working in open browser
[17:23] <luca_bi> Dear friends, mysql folder is in var/lib/mysql but I cannot open it how can i opne it?? I see an x on the folder
[17:23] <chopper> hi
[17:23] <awozniak> sudo apt-get --reinstall install libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 fails with an error: E: Internal Error, No file name for libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0   Got any clues for me?
[17:23] <ThinkT510> Marine1: it sounds more like a flash issue rather than a browser issue
[17:24] <MonkeyDust> awozniak  first type apt-cache search libgkd|less to look for the exact name
[17:24] <Baccari> luca_bi, check access control flags from within a terminal
[17:24] <shaneo_> hi guys what are the resolution requirements for ubuntu server the only reason i ask is because im trying to run it on am older pc and it all installs fine and everything but wont show the terminal are there any settings i can change in the install to fix this
[17:24] <franksouza1831> hello
[17:25] <awozniak> MonkeyDust: libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 - GDK Pixbuf library
[17:25] <luca_bi> Baccari how can I open it from terminal?
[17:25] <shaneo_> old hp pc connected to a sony vaio LCD
[17:25] <sereal> Hi, i'm having some problems with the mouse in gnome windows. Basically in unity or what ever the default is now, I can't left click on certain things. (i had to power cycle to log out :/ ) Openbox works, so this is clearly not a issue with my mouse, but gnome windows, like the gnome control panel left click doesn't work. Is there a solution to this?
[17:25] <ssta> shaneo_: there aren't any for server...
[17:25] <delinquentme> logging in via console ... as another user
[17:25] <delinquentme> anyone?
[17:25] <dr_willis> sereal:  clean install? Upgrade? Tried making a new user?
[17:25] <shaneo_> ssta so are there any settings i can change
[17:25] <Baccari> luca_bi, open a terminal, go the the parent folder, then "ls -l"
[17:25] <shaneo_> during install
[17:26] <shaneo_> the change reoslution maybe
[17:26] <sereal> Making a new user isn't going to help. That seems like a silly solution to me.
[17:26] <dspstv> how, here can i see the table of IP leases when i share my wired connection?
[17:26] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | shaneo_
[17:26] <sereal> I just did a dist upgrade
[17:26] <ssta> shaneo_: not that I know of.  There's probably a way to turn off the vga console
[17:26] <conntrack> pelvic thrust failed?
[17:26] <dr_willis> sereal:  try making a new user. see if they have the same issue.. if they DONT have a problem. that would point to a user setting conflict
[17:26] <shaneo_> thanks ubottu and ssta
[17:26] <luca_bi> Baccari drwx------  6 mysql         mysql          4096 2011-11-28 16:30 mysql
[17:26] <Exxon> !xorg | shaneo_
[17:27] <dspstv> excuse, where can i see the table of IP leases when i share my wired connection?
[17:27] <Baccari> luca_bi, the owner of this folder is the user "mysql"
[17:27] <ssta> shaneo_: you have server, so xorg isn't relevant
[17:28] <Baccari> luca_bi, you can change it by :"sudo chown $USER"
[17:29] <llutz> Baccari: luca_bi STOP
[17:29] <llutz> luca_bi: don't chown mysql-dir, it'll break mysql
[17:29] <lcb> I appreciate any help on this, since my system is not detecting the audio device. - pastebin -> http://pastebin.com/nmX8UxGV
[17:29] <phrosty> How do you format a flash drive on ubuntu?
[17:30] <lcb> phrosty: any partition utility
[17:31] <ThinkT510> phrosty: gparted to the rescue!
[17:31] <phrosty> Ok I just saw that via a google search :)
[17:32] <lcb> phrosty: be careful not partitioning drive: google
[17:32] <MonkeyDust> lcb  in Terminal, use mkfs
[17:32] <llutz> luca_bi: if you really need to list contents of that dir, use "sudo ls -l /var/lib/mysql"
[17:32] <MonkeyDust> phrosty   in Terminal, use mkfs
[17:32] <ssta> phrosty: disk manager (in 10.10 and 11.04 anyway, not sure in 11.10)
[17:33] <lcb> MonkeyDust: i will, tks :p
[17:33] <Exxon> lcb, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[17:34] <lcb> Exxon: :) thanks
[17:34] <sereal> dr_willis, yeah this is a problem with ubuntu being broken. I guess i'm done with ubuntu. Maybe i'll do a server install and just grab what I want, but this is pretty stupid. It seems like ubuntu has gotten more and more broken with each new release and it's sad because it was really nice till 11 came along
[17:34] <lcb> Exxon: didn't find that one, before
[17:35] <MonkeyDust> sereal  others do like the change
[17:35] <Exxon> lcb, no need to mention try it ..
[17:35] <PwrSurge> for some reason my display switches in and out of graphics mode when starting X
[17:35] <ThePendulum> Is there a way to prevent that launcher panel from hiding automatically in Ubuntu 11.10?
[17:35] <lcb> Exxon: tks a lot
[17:35] <benbloom> is there any reason not to install 64b ubuntu on a 64b machine?
[17:35] <askhader> benbloom: Not anymore.
[17:36] <sereal> MonkeyDust, I have no problem with unity, or the defaults. I typically just install openbox or fluxbox and never touch gnome other than gnome applications, but this is the last straw for me. Things are seriously broken when my mouse doesn't even work in gnome windows.
[17:36] <PwrSurge> I see 720x400 and 1920x1080 flashing back and forth
[17:36] <ssta> benbloom: not often...unless you need some ISV apps that are 32bit only
[17:36] <bodymain> lol
[17:36] <doctorme> #iodoom3
[17:37] <isoman2kx> does ubuntu have a software that lets you listen to radio stations & podcasts... as well as download them?
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> isoman2kx  rhythmbox (with plugins)
[17:37] <sereal> More and more things have broke for me since 11 and I have heard numerous complaints about the gui installer freezing (never happened on me) but I mean these are things that used to work and no don't. Come on, ubuntu is suppost to be geared towards new users, and a some what experienced user can't make it work?
[17:38] <ssta> sereal: not that I mind, but this sort of rant belongs on #ubuntu-offtopic (where I will happily agree with you)
[17:38] <benbloom> I do occasionally use ISV apps ssta. are the advantages of 64b architecture that noticable?
[17:38] <sereal> ssta, sorry you are correct.
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> always a gentleman
[17:39] <ThinkT510> benbloom: more ram baby yeah!
[17:39] <Exxon> benbloom, it depends.
[17:39] <PineappleClock> I'm trying to create a public share space for everyone in my network on a Ubuntu server- How do I make a folder where everyone that has access to it always creates files and folders with 0777 permissions?
[17:39] <ssta> benbloom: depends on whose benchmarks you read.  Most of them these days are better on 64bit.  As long as your ISV supports 64bit then it's fine
[17:40] <ThinkT510> PineappleClock: that will attract spam
[17:40] <PineappleClock> ok but how to do it?
[17:41] <Exxon> PineappleClock, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[17:42] <llutz> PineappleClock: setup your directory and create an POSIX acl (man setfacl, getfacl) for it
[17:42] <jana46> is this an English spoken chat?
[17:42] <PineappleClock> my Samba share is set to create mask = 0777 and directory mask = 0777 but for some reason some mac clients are writing files that aren't
[17:42] <Myrtti> jana46: yes
[17:42] <ThinkT510> jana46: indeed it is
[17:43] <franksouza1831> hello
[17:43] <jana46> is this although about Xubuntu?
[17:43] <Myrtti> !xubuntu | jana46
[17:43] <Arpad2> sziasztok
[17:43] <ThinkT510> jana46: you can ask here or at #xubuntu
[17:44] <conntrack> Ouch
[17:45] <jana46> I still have two external usb disks who seemed to be locked. what means this actually
[17:47] <jana46> #Xubuntu
[17:47] <delinquentme> working through an install of postgreSQL ... I'd like to give my new user "postgres" access over all things within his home dir of home/postgres ... this is a chmod operation?
[17:48] <bugbrains> any bitbucket users
[17:49] <bugbrains> how to add a profile photo in bitbucket?????
[17:51] <Exxon> bugbrains, i don't use it see if the link help http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/BITBUCKET/Using+SSH+to+Access+your+Bitbucket+Repository
[17:51] <bugbrains> Exxon: thanks
[17:51] <sskalnik> Anyone knowledgeable about splitting source packages into multiple binary packages?
[17:52] <sskalnik> I've gone through the Packaging Guide to the letter, but am getting this error:
[17:52] <sskalnik> dh_install: foo-package-2 missing files (/lib/*), aborting
[17:53] <sskalnik> In the foo-package-2.install file, I have patterns like "/lib/*" so that everything installed in that directory by the source would end up in that deb
[17:53] <sskalnik> This is what the official guide said to do
[17:53] <sskalnik> Obviously not working though.
[17:53] <sskalnik> Any ideas?
[17:54] <jrib> sskalnik: #ubuntu-packaging
[17:54] <alienmindtrick> How do I find out which updates were done to my machine, this morning? I manually authorized them, but don't recall what they were.
[17:55] <sskalnik> jrib, currently chilling in there, but no response; figured I would ask in here. Is this an improper venue?
[17:55] <raven> how to get date to produce the actual time? its only writing files to the first time it was opened fswebcam -d /dev/video0 -l 2 video0--`date +%F--%H.%M.%S`.jpg
[17:55] <jrib> sskalnik: it's ok to ask here
[17:55] <sskalnik> jrib: Cool, thanks
[17:56] <Exxon> alienmindtrick, apt-cache policy [package-name]
[17:57] <alienmindtrick> @Exxon: how will i know the package name?
[17:57] <EuroNerd> I've got a problem:  I've uninstalled Gwibber, and yet Gwibber updates keep popping up in the Update Manager.
[17:58] <grendal-prime> soooo is there anyway to get the little icons back in gnome 3?  like the ones next to aplications and places?
[17:58] <raven> how to get date to produce the actual time? its only writing files to the first time it was opened fswebcam -d /dev/video0 -l 2 video0--`date +%F--%H.%M.%S`.jpg
[17:58] <PwrSurge> anyone here have an ATI graphics card running on 11.10?
[17:59] <grendal-prime> PwrSurge, sure dont
[17:59] <Exxon> /var/log/apt contains a history of package installations
[18:00] <PwrSurge> with fglrx
[18:00] <PwrSurge> just get a black screen
[18:00] <alienmindtrick> Exxon: i run that from a terminal window, or is it in the file system?
[18:00] <PwrSurge> was working fine before I upgradd
[18:00] <jazzanova> hi
[18:00] <sskalnik> EuroNerd, can you do dpkg --get-selections and confirm that Gwibber is uninstalled?
[18:00] <jazzanova> did karmic apt.sources list change recently ? I can't update
[18:01] <Exxon> alienmindtrick, gksudo natilus
[18:01] <ThinkT510> jazzanova: karmic is no longer supported
[18:01] <jazzanova> isn't there an archive deb ?
[18:02] <ThinkT510> why do people insist on using old versions?
[18:02] <ssta> because they're not broke?
[18:02] <jazzanova> i tried upgrading once, it didn't work on my laptop
[18:02] <jazzanova> i had to revert
[18:02] <sskalnik> ThinkT510, wasn't that "old version" very stable and proven?
[18:02] <sskalnik> I used it for a long while
[18:02] <grendal-prime> ssta, thanks..i was trying to think of something to anser that with but was experiencing anger gridlock
[18:03] <jazzanova> i get misses for karmic_updates
[18:03] <Exxon> PwrSurge, check the vedor do they have ati drivers
[18:03] <EuroNerd> sskalnik, is there a way to page this list?  cuz it's so long, it fitted only from m to z in the terminal ;)
[18:03] <ThinkT510> sskalnik: thats what lts versions are for
[18:03] <sskalnik> ThinkT510, indeed
[18:03] <ThinkT510> jazzanova: i always fresh install, never trusted the upgrade process
[18:04] <grendal-prime> ?
[18:04] <grendal-prime> do that when you have 70 servers
[18:04] <sskalnik> EuroNerd, no idea on the paging. I am lazy and use Xchat
[18:04] <grendal-prime> you can start over again in 3 years..
[18:04] <sskalnik> grendal-prime, I know that feel
[18:04] <ssta> that's pretty much what I do
[18:04] <EuroNerd> sskalnik, nevermind, just adding g* at the end of your command did the job ;)
[18:04] <jazzanova> found it, it moved to old-releases
[18:05] <sskalnik> EuroNerd, you could pipe it to less
[18:05] <grendal-prime> ive had one dist-upgrade go bad. it was using debian proper and it was 7 years ago.
[18:05] <alienmindtrick> Exxon: i ran that in a terminal (gksudo natilus), got a dialog to authorize it, nothing else happened
[18:05] <DeeP> hai
[18:05] <PwrSurge> tried that, appears the latest version is causing issues
[18:05] <sskalnik> dpkg --get-selections | less
[18:06] <DeeP> best video editor for ubuntu
[18:06] <EuroNerd> sskalnik, and now I can tell you that dpkg shows "install" next to the four gwibber-service variants, so I assume it's not installed.
[18:06] <Yanch0> guys can anyone please help me fix a problem with the gpu? http://pastebin.com/3XQ1HQur - after first boot i never managed to get the login screen, get some garbled lines, then screen goes off
[18:06] <sskalnik> EuroNerd, "install" means it's installed
[18:06] <PwrSurge> *sigh*
[18:06] <sskalnik> EuroNerd, weird, I know
[18:06] <Exxon> sorry i don't do spoon feeding
[18:06] <EuroNerd> ahh...
[18:07] <PwrSurge> screen keeps switching from 720x400 to 1920x1080
[18:07] <PwrSurge> back and forth
[18:07] <EuroNerd> sskalnik, ok, so how do I get rid of this thing?  I'm pretty sure I even did a "purge" version of uninstall
[18:07] <storrgie> I'm installing ubuntu server 11.10 here, I have / on a md volume. When I get to the grub portion of the install I see 'executing grub-install /dev/sda failed this is a fatal error' and I really cant work beyond this
[18:07] <Yanch0> http://pastebin.com/pbtHijVK all the debugging i could think of
[18:07] <sskalnik> EuroNerd, weird, purge should nuke it all from orbit
[18:07] <EuroNerd> sskalnik, oh wait, maybe I removed the app, but not the services (daemons or sth) ?
[18:08] <PwrSurge> (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory
[18:08] <sskalnik> EuroNerd, try "apt-get uninstall" + paste those gwibber packages
[18:08] <EuroNerd> roger that
[18:08] <sskalnik> EuroNerd, you can select each one and middle-click to paste them quickly.\
[18:08] <sskalnik> EuroNerd, you probably already know that though. XD
[18:09] <EuroNerd> nope
[18:09] <sskalnik> EuroNerd, every time I boot into Windows I middle-click all over the place and go "Why can't I paste anything?"
[18:09] <alienmindtrick> My machine keeps crashing since this morning's update. How can I find which updates were done, in what package, etc? Realize, please, that I am a relative novice, but have exercised due diligence in trying to find the answer before coming here.
[18:10] <Sidewinder1> alienmindtrick, Did you reboot?
[18:10] <EuroNerd> sskalnik, r u sure that's the right syntax?  he tells me "invalid operation uninstall".
[18:10] <hwilde> sskalnik, EuroNerd,  google "true x-mouse gizmo"  if you want middle mouse paste in windoz
[18:10] <alienmindtrick> Sidewinder: yes, more than once.
[18:11] <sskalnik> EuroNerd, my bad, "apt-get remove" or "apt-get purge"
[18:11] <EuroNerd> ok ;)
[18:11] <sskalnik> hwilde, Thanks!
[18:11] <Sidewinder1> alienmindtrick, When you say "crashing", what exactly happens? Any error messages?
[18:12] <ranamalo> anyone know how to get the start sequence of an init script?
[18:12] <Sidewinder1> Oh, my goodness, the floodbots are acting up, again.. :-(
[18:12] <Exxon> Yanch0, i am not familiar with myth tv ask if some one is using it..
[18:12] <alienmindtrick> Sidewinder1: perhaps 'locks up' would be more accurate. the cursor freezes and i can't get it to respond.
[18:12] <hwilde> ranamalo, it's just a text file
[18:12] <Sidewinder1> alienmindtrick, Your ubuntu version?
[18:12] <Yanch0> Exxon, mythtv shouldnt be a problem here ... seems to be an x problem i guess
[18:13] <alienmindtrick> Sidewinder1: 11.10, updated daily
[18:13] <ranamalo> hwilde: i know they are just bash scripts, but I'm looking for a way to get the start sequence number you set with update-rc.d
[18:14] <EuroNerd> sskalnik, I did apt-get remove gwibber-service*  and it killed this sucker! :)  Thanks a lot for your help.
[18:14] <sskalnik> EuroNerd, glad to hear it worked!
[18:14] <storrgie> with 11.10 server can you install to a software raid1?
[18:14] <Sidewinder1> alienmindtrick, Dag-nab-it, I'm on 10.04, so I can't really diagnose, sorry.. Perhaps someone else can... But I hope you're not pressin' the power button; better the REISUB, method..
[18:14] <sskalnik> storrgie, Yes
[18:15] <sskalnik> storrgie, Just did that a few times last week in fact
[18:15] <PwrSurge> was ATI even tested before releasing 11.10?
[18:15] <PwrSurge> geez
[18:15] <rbb2> hi
[18:15] <hwilde> ranamalo, do u mean the runlevel ?
[18:15] <Sidewinder1> !REISUB | alienmindtrick
[18:15] <sskalnik> storrgie, You should be able to make a softraid or lvm during install.
[18:16] <sskalnik> PwrSurge, ATi just doesn't play as well with Linux as nVidia. :C
[18:16] <rbb2> can anyone tell me how to make chromium icon appear in docky and panel
[18:16] <Exxon> Yanch0, mythtv is live cd/dvd please let me know
[18:17] <storrgie> sskalnik, im in 11.10 and grub fails when i try my install
[18:17] <Yanch0> Exxon, yes comes as stripped down ubuntu
[18:17] <storrgie> sskalnik, would you mind being patient and helping me through this?
[18:17] <sskalnik> storrgie, Certainly; hope I can help
[18:18] <sskalnik> storrgie, did you set up the RAID during the install?
[18:18] <storrgie> sskalnik, I have two 256G SSD that I want to install to, I want a 12G swap on each and the rest to be a mdadm RAID1 where I mount /
[18:18] <storrgie> sskalnik, yes I did
[18:18] <Sidewinder1> alienmindtrick, You may wish to restate your question/problem, stating as much info., as you can.. Perhaps someone else will pick up the ball, so to speak..
[18:18] <Exxon> Yanch0, yes it can be included from ubuntu itself..but if that is you should not have a problem with the xorg
[18:18] <storrgie> sskalnik, however, when I get to the stage of the installer where grub is installed it fails
[18:18] <pauluntu> question guys nautilus doesn't have any icons anymore when file browsing i have no idea why they disappeared anyone have a clue how to fix it, restarting didn't work
[18:18] <Yanch0> Exxon, i installed mytubuntu - prepackaged ubuntu with mytv
[18:19] <storrgie> sskalnik, did you put your boot on a seperate partition?
[18:19] <sskalnik> storrgie, Nope
[18:19] <storrgie> sskalnik, you're sure you did 11.10 server?
[18:19] <rbb2> i nstalled nvidia xorg 96 grapics driver buteverytime i open up the  nvidia x server seetings  i got a prompt saying ive to  edit x config file as root ,can anyone here tell me how to do it please
[18:19] <storrgie> sskalnik, I'm at the partitioning menu right now
[18:19] <sskalnik> storrgie, Let me look at my config. I did it manually at first, then switched to using a preseed
[18:20] <Exxon> Yanch0, i am checking the package if ubuntu repos..have such package
[18:20] <sskalnik> storrgie, Yeah, 11.10, got one of these servers right here.
[18:20] <storrgie> sskalnik, sure, im very interested in how you got this working
[18:20] <sskalnik> storrgie, Ooooone moment
[18:20] <lord-ivan_>   hi
[18:20] <Exxon> Yanch0, none
[18:21] <lord-ivan_> any c programmers in here
[18:21] <storrgie> sskalnik, thanks again for helping me out
[18:21] <hwilde> !myth
[18:21] <sskalnik> storrgie, which filesystem did you use, and where did you put the / partition?
[18:21] <hwilde> !mythbuntu
[18:21] <hwilde> ^^
[18:21] <sskalnik> storrgie, Don't thank me unless it works! ;)
[18:21] <storrgie> i tried btrfs first, then ext4
[18:22] <storrgie> i put / on the md device
[18:22] <Exxon> lord-ivan_, wait for a bit later session i don't want to give you names :))
[18:22] <LeftTrouser> GNOME Mplayer seems to lock up my computer completely after playing a videos . Is this a common problem ?
[18:22] <storrgie> sskalnik, I created a partition with the leftover space on each of the SSDs, made that partition a RAID
[18:22] <sskalnik> storrgie, Did you put / on the first md device, i.e., on the first partition?
[18:22] <storrgie> then created a md0 out of those, raid1
[18:22] <storrgie> and put / on it
[18:22] <storrgie> I think the first partition is the swap
[18:23] <sskalnik> storrgie, That is probably why.
[18:23] <luca_bi> dear friends could you tell me the difference between bin/mysqldump -u root -p agenda > agenda_backup.txt
[18:23] <luca_bi> and mysql -u root -p nuova_agenda < agenda_backup.txt
[18:23] <Exxon> hwilde, http://www.mythbuntu.org/
[18:24] <storrgie> sskalnik, should I make the first partition a physical volume for raid?
[18:24] <kierkkadon> what is the ubuntu (specifically GNOME 3) equivalent of dxdiag?
[18:24] <sskalnik> storrgie, I would put the boot partition (/ or /boot) on the first partition
[18:24] <sskalnik> storrgie, Yes
[18:24] <llutz> luca_bi: first command exports your db"agenda" into a file, 2nd command restores it from a file into a db
[18:24] <oCean> luca_bi: also, please note there is a specific #mysql channel
[18:25] <storrgie> sskalnik, tryting that now
[18:25] <storrgie> sskalnik, so now I made the first partition a Physical volume for raid on both devices
[18:25] <sskalnik> storrgie, Cool.
[18:25] <Sidewinder1> oCean, Is it my imagination or are the floodbots 'acting-up', again?
[18:25] <storrgie> sskalnik, now making that md device my /
[18:25] <storrgie> sskalnik, doing ext4
[18:26] <hwilde> !enter | storrgie
[18:26] <Exxon> kierkkadon, please elobrate your question
[18:26] <sskalnik> storrgie, Yeah, that is exactly what I did.
[18:26] <PwrSurge> hopefully the open source driver actually works
[18:26] <storrgie> sskalnik, ok, letting the rest of the installer run
[18:26] <kierkkadon> Exxon, well, when I need to find info on my computer on windows I use dxdiag; is there some sort of equivalent in ubuntu?
[18:26] <storrgie> hwilde, sorry
[18:26] <oCean> Sidewinder1: hmm, seems so.
[18:26] <kierkkadon> I'm trying to figure out a bit of basic info about my machine
[18:26] <Sidewinder1> :D
[18:27] <storrgie> sskalnik, it may take a couple of minutes for the rest of the installer to run, im doing it from CD
[18:27] <PwrSurge> hmm
[18:27] <sskalnik> storrgie, Side note; are you doing one big partition, or separate ones for /home, /var, /tmp, etc.?
[18:27]  * Sidewinder1 Sighs..
[18:27] <storrgie> sskalnik, i think you can only do a single big partition once you make an md device
[18:28] <Exxon> kierkkadon, simply install xorg according to you vendor that it..there is not directx like windows here
[18:28] <sskalnik> storrgie, Yeah, but you can put several md devices on a physical drive.
[18:28] <storrgie> sskalnik, so yes im doing something like this {Disk1: 240G RAID, 16.4G Swap} {Disk2: 240G RAID, 16.4G Swap} {RAID1: 240G / ext4}
[18:28] <sskalnik> Cool
[18:28] <sskalnik> storrgie, Yeah that looks good
[18:29] <luca_bi> llutz: thanks very much another question
[18:29] <storrgie> sskalnik, its pulling updates and configuring apt
[18:29] <sskalnik> storrgie, Man you must have a ton of RAM
[18:29] <storrgie> sskalnik, should be to the grub installer soon
[18:29] <storrgie> sskalnik, I have 16G right now, but I'll likely bump to 32 sometime soon
[18:29] <storrgie> sskalnik, I'm using this system to test out zfs, its my home server. I typically do mdadm and ext4
[18:29] <luca_bi> why if I write bin/... it doesn't export my database and if I write without bin/ it exports??
[18:29] <sskalnik> storrgie, Haha, if you ever need ot use that swap space I will be amazed
[18:30] <storrgie> sskalnik, yeah i just remember someone saying swap needs to be 1.5 size the memory
[18:30] <ssta> you can do a root zfs?
[18:30] <sskalnik> storrgie, Never used zfs, but I know people who really like it.
[18:30] <sskalnik> storrgie, Yes that is a good rule of thumb
[18:30] <storrgie> ssta, you should check out the mailing lists for zfs I wouldnt ask that here, also go to #zfs
[18:30] <luca_bi> what is the meaning of bin/ in a comand from shell??
[18:31] <Kindari> Whats the package name for git on 11.04? just tried apt-get install git and then git-core and neither worked. Fresh install of 11.04
[18:31] <storrgie> ssta, yes, you can. I see many people have been doing it. I am going to keep my / ext4 for now. I would do btrfs if it had a fsck releasted
[18:31] <jrib> luca_bi: what exactly are you writing in your shell (in full)?
[18:31] <storrgie> sskalnik, its installing openssh then i think grub is next
[18:31] <storrgie> Kindari, probably git-common
[18:31] <luca_bi> jrib: bin/mysqldump -u root -p agenda > agenda_backup.txt
[18:31] <sskalnik> Kindari, apt-cache search git
[18:31] <storrgie> Kindari, sudo apt-cache search git
[18:31] <luca_bi> with this comand it doesn't export my database
[18:31] <llutz> luca_bi: don't use the "bin/" or use the correct path.
[18:32] <lduros> Hello, anybody knows if Ubuntu works well with all the components of the new dell XPS 14z laptop: http://www.dell.com/us/p/xps-l412z/pd?~ck=mn -- it has an NVIDIA GeForce GT 520M with Optimus -- is this something that would work with nvidia drivers in ubuntu?
[18:32] <jrib> luca_bi: when you write "bin/mysqldump" you are telling your shell to look for a "bin" folder IN YOUR CURRENT DIRECTORY, go into it, and then run the "mysqldump" file inside
[18:32] <lduros> considering buying it, that's why i'm asking :-)
[18:32] <luca_bi> llutz: Yes if I don't use bin/ it works
[18:32] <luca_bi> why?
[18:32] <sskalnik> lduros, Most likely. Never seen an nvidia card that Linux didn't like
[18:32] <llutz> luca_bi: those commands are in /usr/bin/   so bin/mysql only would work if you are in /usr
[18:32] <storrgie> lduros, there are some projects to do optimus out there, search for them. You're in need of a lot of reading. I do think you're in luck though because the projects have been around for a couple months
[18:33] <storrgie> sskalnik, I'm still getting that fatal error
[18:33] <ssta> lduros: unless you need to drive multiple nvidia cards
[18:33] <Exxon> storrgie, swap have a size cylinder of 1024kb so really don't require that
[18:33] <sskalnik> storrgie, send me that error?
[18:33] <Exxon> storrgie, swap have a size cylinder of 1024mb so really don't require that
[18:33] <storrgie> "executing 'grub-install /dev/sda' failed. This is a fatal error"
[18:33] <PwrSurge> what a POS
[18:33] <lduros> sskalnik: storrgie: ssta: I don't understand what Optimus is so much though, I found this thread and that's why I was asking about it here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/46065/problems-with-nvidia-drivers-on-dell-xps
[18:33] <llutz> luca_bi: you want to read some basics about pathes and how to call binaries etc.
[18:34] <PwrSurge> any driver I try does not work
[18:34] <storrgie> lduros, its two graphics chips on the same machine, in windows they dynamically switch between the two chips. in linux you have to manually do it
[18:34] <sskalnik> storrgie, Is there a more informative log file?
[18:34] <PwrSurge> screen flashes instead of loading X
[18:34] <storrgie> sskalnik, .... im not so good when im in this mode, how could i get a log?
[18:34] <lduros> storrgie: ok, i see
[18:34] <storrgie> sskalnik, keep in mind this is the installer from CD
[18:34] <storrgie> sskalnik, should I try the alt installer?
[18:35] <storrgie> lduros, yeah so you would run your main environment on the intel card, because intel works really nice for unity and gnome-shell. then you could use the cli to launch certain apps and tell them to use your nvidia card
[18:35] <sskalnik> storrgie, drop to another tty (Alt-F2 or something) and look at /var/log/whatever
[18:35] <storrgie> lduros, from what I gather
[18:35] <lduros> storrgie: hmm ok
[18:35] <Exxon> PwrSurge, sorry to tell you ati have stopped the support for ati drivers so work with vesa
[18:35] <lduros> storrgie: so really the nvidia card wouldn't be used that much
[18:35] <storrgie> sskalnik, syslog?
[18:35] <sskalnik> storrgie, Sorry I can't remember the exact names of the logs, but there should be a grub log or a syslog
[18:35] <sskalnik> storrgie, Yeah check that
[18:36] <storrgie> sskalnik, ok its coming across the screen, one tick
[18:36] <sskalnik> storrgie, It might take a while; did for me.
[18:36] <storrgie> ahhhhh
[18:36] <luca_bi> llutz: Ok I know folder /usr/bin but if I don't put bin/ the comand works
[18:36] <storrgie> sskalnik, This GPT partition lavel has no bios boot partition, embedding wont be possible
[18:36] <tyujk> !list
[18:36] <llutz> luca_bi: you want to read some basics about pathes and how to call binaries etc.   don't use prefix bin/   to call those commands!
[18:36] <luca_bi> llutz: In bin I have a lot of files executable
[18:36] <storrgie> sskalnik, you're using MBR right? I think my disks were GPT to start with
[18:36] <sskalnik> storrgie, Ahhhh yes
[18:37] <storrgie> sskalnik, I think I need to make a 1 or 2 Meg BIOS boot partition
[18:37] <storrgie> on each disk
[18:37] <Sepho> Hi guys!
[18:37] <llutz> luca_bi: check "echo $PATH"  you don't need to give pathes to binaries in all these listed directories
[18:37] <storrgie> lduros, yeah it wouldnt be, some bios let you force intel OR nvidia
[18:37] <sskalnik> storrgie, That would be outside my knowhow; only used GPT on a Mac and that was a while ago
[18:37] <storrgie> lduros, you could choose
[18:37] <Exxon> PwrSurge, every things will work fine, only compiz will not work..i really don't care about the look ..( looks can always decieve) :))
[18:37] <luca_bi> llutz: Yes I want to read something more about pathes
[18:37] <storrgie> sskalnik, so I should probably just do MBR
[18:37] <Sepho> I've installed Ubuntu 11.04 and I want to install Gnome3 to use gnome-shell but I can't find gnome-shell in synaptic... any idea?
[18:38] <storrgie> sskalnik, could you confirm your disks are MBR?
[18:38] <sskalnik> storrgie, Definitely MBR
[18:38] <sskalnik> luca_bi, http://www.funtoo.org/wiki/Linux_Fundamentals,_Part_1
[18:38] <lduros> storrgie: I see
[18:38] <storrgie> lduros, I plan to buy one someone soon. I'll probably just use intel all the time, its less power hungry and it has very good driver support
[18:38] <lduros> :-)
[18:38] <lduros> right
[18:38] <luca_bi> llutz: /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[18:38] <lduros> storrgie: you were planning on buying the xps 14z?
[18:39] <storrgie> lduros, I prefer Fedora for my desktop/laptop because I like gnome-shell. however I still use ubuntu on my servers
[18:39] <sskalnik> luca_bi, That will answer a lot of questions about things like bin vs /bin vs /usr/bin
[18:39] <PwrSurge> Exxon, : i'm not even getting X period
[18:39] <lduros> storrgie: ok, couldn't you use gnome-shell in ubuntu or debian though?
[18:39] <storrgie> lduros, im not sure, I kind of want one of the newer ultrabooks... i just figure they will all come with Intel/Nvidia optimus crap
[18:39] <PwrSurge> screen keeps flashing and X does not load
[18:40] <PwrSurge> should have never upgraded
[18:40] <storrgie> lduros, i think so, however ubuntu keeps changing so many things each release without documenting why... mainly the things that are not integrating with upstream.. that I just choose fedora
[18:40] <lduros> storrgie: yeh, the newer ultrabooks are too thin for me though, they'd fly away on my lap in my backyard :-P
[18:40] <storrgie> lduros, i'm probably speaking blasphemy here
[18:40] <hkm> hi, some help pls
[18:40] <hkm> http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/7169/pantallazodel2011112813.png
[18:40] <PwrSurge> too bad I can't downgrade
[18:40] <jussi> storrgie: lduros best to keep the chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic and this place for direct support ;)
[18:40] <PwrSurge> basically have to reformat and start again
[18:40] <lduros> storrgie: what's the advantage of fedora? :-P I'd miss the "Debian" way of organizing things a bit, especially after taking great pains learning it
[18:40] <PwrSurge> crap
[18:41] <Exxon> PwrSurge, rember always backup the xorg while  to try installing alien drivers =experiment it..rather playing.
[18:41] <PwrSurge> it's not a new driver
[18:41] <PwrSurge> was working fine when I was running 10.10
[18:41] <storrgie> lduros, I would just check it out, fedora is a very nice system if you know linux. It's not as ready for non-linux people as ubuntu is. but it is quite nice
[18:41] <PwrSurge> then I upgraded to 11.11
[18:41] <PwrSurge> 11.10 rather
[18:41] <lduros> storrgie: ok, thanks :-)
[18:41] <storrgie> lduros, if you want, msg me in private and I will give you my email. I can help you settle into fedora from that
[18:42] <jussi> storrgie: really - please use #ubuntu-offtopic for this kind of chatter.
[18:42] <NEMOW> maz
[18:42] <lduros> thanks :-P I'll msg you if I have issues installing it ;-)
[18:42] <storrgie> jussi, yeah i figured its not welcome to do that here, apologies
[18:42] <Exxon> PwrSurge, you have to know about the hardware that you use we else will
[18:42] <jussi> storrgie: thanks
[18:42] <luca_bi> llutz: If you have a file in these directories you don't need to write path?
[18:43] <llutz> luca_bi: correct
[18:43] <Yuukon> I need a little help, my school has a wifi network secured with an username-password method, and I can't get my netbook running Ubuntu 11.10 32bit to connect to it, can anybody help me??
[18:43] <PwrSurge> ATI radeon hd 3650
[18:43] <hkm> http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/7169/pantallazodel2011112813.png some solution?
[18:43] <sskalnik> Yuukon, sure
[18:43] <Yuukon> Great, sskalnik
[18:43] <sskalnik> Yuukon, Do you have the pass and username?
[18:43] <storrgie> hkm, dont repeatedly ask.... also why dont you explain what is going on instead of just spamming a link to a screen shot.
[18:43] <Exxon> PwrSurge, i am using ati..
[18:44] <Exxon> PwrSurge, lspci -v | VGA
[18:44] <Yuukon> Yes, sskalnik , but the network isn't in range right now as I am home
[18:44] <storrgie> sskalnik, im trying to do the same install with MBR right now, ill let you know if it sticks this time
[18:44] <hkm> is about grapich distorsion, u can see on guake terminal a example
[18:44] <Gl3ndiffich> Bonjour a tous est ce que quelqu'un peut me rappeler quel est le champ d'entraide !!??
[18:45] <oCean> !fr | Gl3ndiffich
[18:45] <sskalnik> Yuukon, Alright. When you try to connect to the network, what happens?
[18:45] <sskalnik> storrgie, OK.
[18:45] <Yuukon> It's trying to connect for ages, then prompts me with an login screen again, sskalnik
[18:45] <hwilde> Yuukon, are you putting in your domain with your username
[18:46] <sskalnik> Yuukon, can you confirm that you're using the exact correct password? It sounds like the authentication is being rejected.
[18:46] <hwilde> sskalnik, probably needs domain name.
[18:46] <sskalnik> hwilde, Indeed
[18:46] <Yuukon> Yes, sskalnik , these are the same things as I use in Windows, and it works fine there.
[18:46] <hwilde> try yuukon@yourdomain.com   or   yourdomain\yuukon
[18:46] <sskalnik> hwilde, Yuukon, At any rate, sounds like the authentication - either username or pass -  is wrong.
[18:47] <Yuukon> There isn't a domain to put in, hwilde
[18:47] <hwilde> sure there is
[18:47] <Yuukon> sskalnik, it works in windows perfectly fine with the same username password combination.
[18:47] <hwilde> in windows it is probably put in for you since you are on the domain....
[18:47] <Yuukon> sskalnik, Ubuntu however does ask for a certifacate.
[18:49] <sskalnik> Yuukon, set wireless security to None or Off
[18:49] <PwrSurge> it works if I go in safemode and i do startx
[18:49] <Yuukon> I can't try it right now, sskalnik , but I will try it out tomorrow.
[18:49] <sskalnik> Yuukon, That sounds like your school is using one of those wonky Cisco security systems
[18:49] <Yuukon> Yeah, I think it is, sskalnik , there are more people having trouble connecting.
[18:50] <boxbeatsy> hi, i'm starting to do some research into choosing a new laptop to buy.  does anyone have any recommendations on a good laptop that can be used to run ubuntu for general programming tasks/browsing, and a dual boot of windows to play games?
[18:51] <Sidewinder1> Yuukon, If you/they can't connect, they're certainly secure.. ;-)
[18:51] <Yuukon> Lol indeed Sidewinder1
[18:51] <PwrSurge> and that's using the radeon driver, not vesa
[18:52] <sskalnik> Yuukon, It is probably Clean Access by Cisco. What is happening is that it's asking for CA certificates that aren't in Ubuntu be default. I would talk to the local sysadmin about what certs you need.
[18:52] <PwrSurge> what is going on
[18:52] <Sidewinder1> Yuukon, Sorry, I couldn't resist. :D
[18:52] <KM0201> boxbeatsy: main thing, is don't get a laptop w/ those dual GPU's, they seem to cause a ton of problems
[18:52] <Exxon> PwrSurge, there is a way to test compiz if it work without installing it. i will give you a link
[18:52] <Yuukon> sskalnik, it indeed asks for CA certificates, I couldn't get to it for a minute. I've been googling my butt off already but anything I try isn't really helping, but thank you for trying, will contact local sysadmin :)
[18:53] <Yuukon> Well it is true Sidewinder1 :P
[18:53] <sskalnik> boxbeatsy, Anything specific you plan to do with the laptop? What is your price range, and how much does battery life and size and weight matter?
[18:53] <sskalnik> Yuukon, You are welcome; good luck!
[18:53] <Yuukon> Thank you!
[18:54] <Sidewinder1> Yuukon, Yes, good luck!
[18:54] <sskalnik> Heh, I log in to get my issue fixed; end up helping people with their issues instead.
[18:54] <Exxon> PwrSurge, you will now it exactly follow the link it will not harm the system http://www.ubuntugeek.com/check-compiz-will-run-on-your-ubuntu-desktop-or-not.html
[18:54] <sskalnik> Day is still productive!
[18:54] <boxbeatsy> sskalnik: battery life/size/weight isn't a concern (will be plugged in most of the time).  price range <$800.  i'm planning on doing some general programming on ubuntu and dualbooting into windows for gaming
[18:55] <sskalnik> boxbeatsy, How hardcore are you about the gaming?
[18:55] <hwilde> boxbeatsy, http://www.ubuntu.com/dell
[18:55] <boxbeatsy> sskalnik: not especially, but i'd like to be able to run the latest games on lowest settings
[18:55] <Exxon> PwrSurge, its like dxdiag in windows to know
[18:55] <sharpK> is there any way to view folders (in a home folder) in a different way? like a detailed list (as in windows)?
[18:56] <boxbeatsy> hwilde: i was looking at that, but it looks like dell discontinud support.  at least when oyu click on said USA link, it leads to a page with no options
[18:56] <hwilde> boxbeatsy, oh I guess I am obsolete.
[18:56] <boxbeatsy> hehe
[18:57] <axl_> hey guys... I am using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. I did some googling on this but did not find the information. any ides how i upgrade OpenSSH ?
[18:58] <ypahnu> hello guys! the new ubuntu it's wierd, I miss the top menu that side bars it's terrible
[18:58] <hwilde> ypahnu, change to gnome then
[18:59] <PwrSurge> Exxon, : 404
[18:59] <PwrSurge> http://blogage.de/files/3448/download?compiz-check_0.1-1_all.deb is 404 not found
[19:00] <Sidewinder1> ypahnu, You might, then wish to return to 10.04; that's what I'm using and it'll be supported for a couple of years more.. :-)
[19:00] <sskalnik> boxbeatsy, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834230077
[19:00] <Exxon> PwrSurge, are you using proxy
[19:00] <PwrSurge> no
[19:00] <PwrSurge> check it out for yourself
[19:01] <Jordan_U> storrgie: Rather than switching away from GPT, why not just create a BIOS Boot Partition?
[19:01] <sskalnik> HD screen, BLuRay, good video card, good specs all around.
[19:01] <PwrSurge> the article loads ok but compiz-check it wants to use is 404 not found
[19:01] <sharpK> What's the best anti-virus for ubuntu?
[19:01] <sskalnik> boxbeatsy, ASUS tends to have very high build quality and performance, relatively speaking.
[19:01] <sharpK> and possibly free, less there is a huge difference
[19:01] <hwilde> !antivirus
[19:02] <Exxon> PwrSurge, link works fine
[19:02] <sskalnik> sharpK, Welcome to a wor;d without the need for a virus scanner
[19:02] <PwrSurge> my system is basically unusable now
[19:02] <boxbeatsy> sskalnik: cool, thanks! this looks good
[19:02] <sharpK> ubottu, that's exactly the case, I am using an Ubuntu desktop 11.10 on a server box, which will have torrents downlaoded to it, and the windows users would access
[19:02] <sskalnik> boxbeatsy, I think you will like it. I've gotten nearly everyone I know into the ASUS camp
[19:02] <Kindari> I thought on 11.04 byobu was the default terminal? It is not even installed. After installing it, how can I make it the default terminal for all users?
[19:03] <PwrSurge> ok, i see it now
[19:03] <sharpK> sskalnik, yeah, but as a server, windows users would use it, I just want to be able to scan torrent files and all that stuff on a regular basis from the server box rather than use up my computer
[19:03] <PwrSurge> the wget url in the article is dead
[19:03] <sskalnik> sharpK, Ah, so you want to make sure the files are virus free?
[19:04] <sharpK> yeah, before they make their way over to a windows computer in the network
[19:04] <sskalnik> sharpK, Gotcha.
[19:04] <Exxon> PwrSurge, i did not tell you wget did i or i could have given it to you
[19:04] <sharpK> figured it's be easier and a better use of resources to have the server check the files itself
[19:04] <sskalnik> sharpK, This server would be used for totally legal downloads of a legitimate nature that wouldn't normally contain viruses right?
[19:05] <sharpK> Naturally ;)
[19:05] <sskalnik> sharpK, I thought so. XD
[19:05] <Kindari> sskalnik, of course, just there *may* be infected ubuntu ISOs.. better safe then sorry :)
[19:05]  * Kindari whistles
[19:06] <sskalnik> sharpK, your best bet is probably NOD32 is you want to take zero chances
[19:06] <sskalnik> sharpK, If you want free, there is ClamAV
[19:06] <sharpK> thanks for the info
[19:06] <sskalnik> s/is/if
[19:07] <sskalnik> sharpK, No prob; you might try to demo NOD32 on the Windows boxen as well....
[19:07] <papsky> anti-virus is for the fearful
[19:07] <PwrSurge> the real page for compiz-check is actually http://forlong.blogage.de/entries/pages/Compiz-Check
[19:07] <thisistheaussiet> I've found a bug with nVidia and the Grid Feature (Snap).. Should I file it somewhere?
[19:07] <papsky> jump in
[19:07] <battlepotc> the rt2800_pci is already solved?
[19:07] <sskalnik> sharpK, It's effective enough for me to download viruses just for giggles.
[19:08] <Exxon> PwrSurge, i know that so what the outcome
[19:08] <sharpK> sskalnik, those are some construcive hobbies you've got there
[19:08] <sskalnik> sharpK, The best way to make sure something works is to try to prove it doesn't. ;)
[19:08] <battlepotc> is there a kernel for dev?
[19:08] <battlepotc> a channel
[19:09] <storrgie> sskalnik, do you have any experience using 'disk utility'?
[19:09] <storrgie> sskalnik, i would like to now use it to connect to my server
[19:09] <sskalnik> storrgie, Yeah
[19:09] <storrgie> sskalnik, mbr fixed my problems
[19:09] <sskalnik> storrgie, Sweet
[19:09] <sharpK> sskalnik the linuxian method....
[19:09] <battlepotc> can someone please help me?
[19:10] <storrgie> sskalnik, i get errors when i try to connect to my server with disk utility, have you ever tried to see your system remotely?
[19:10] <BluesKaj> BBL, stuff to do
[19:10] <ypahnu> so I will stay on U10.04 ,, thanks alot
[19:10] <storrgie> I get this error: ssh_askpass: exec(/usr/libexec/openssh/ssh-askpass): No such file or directoryHost key
[19:10] <sskalnik> storrgie, Nope, not via disk utility. I can try though
[19:11] <lucidguy> bash tip??  Need to run the following command 6 times " cpufreq-selector -c 0 -g performance "    yet I want the 0 to increment each time -c 0, 1, 2, 3 .. etc.  Any quick tip?
[19:11] <sskalnik> storrgie, What is disk utility's real name? I'm on Xubuntu, so there's no "disk utility"
[19:12] <storrgie> geesh i dont know
[19:12] <Exxon> lucidguy, you require a script
[19:12] <Pici> !details  | battlepotc
[19:13] <battlepotc> Pici, I have an kernel panic when using wireless with rt61 driver
[19:13] <battlepotc> and wpa_supplicant
[19:13] <battlepotc> and the lastest version of ubuntu
[19:14] <Exxon> battlepotc, ubuntu don't use wpa_supplicant ..click is enough here
[19:14] <battlepotc> Exxon, yes but i still have the kernel panic using the rt61 driver
[19:15] <sskalnik> storrgie, Installing disk utility
[19:15] <Exxon> battlepotc, modprobe the drivers
[19:16] <spoq> is there any drivers for Tubuntu?
[19:16] <battlepotc> Exxon, has i said rt61 driver
[19:16] <lucidguy> got it ...    for i in {0..5}; do cpufreq-selector -c "$i" -g performance; done
[19:16] <Exxon> modprobe rt61
[19:17] <battlepotc> Exxon, the module is already loaded
[19:17] <Exxon> battlepotc, dmesg | grep rt61
[19:17] <battlepotc> the problem is that the driver has some kind of bug
[19:17] <user031> hello
[19:17] <hwilde> battlepotc, to remove it:   modprobe -r       then blacklist it
[19:17] <hwilde> !blacklist
[19:18] <Exxon> battlepotc, dis-connect and re-connect nothing will panic
[19:18] <battlepotc> hwilde, yeh but i need the driver for wireless
[19:18] <user031> i need to copy files from a boot partition that had arch linux installed on it
[19:18] <user031> i can access it using the ubuntu disk
[19:18] <user031> but i cant access the /home directory
[19:18] <hwilde> battlepotc, rip it out and install a better wireless.
[19:18] <jrib> user031: why not?
[19:18] <battlepotc> hwilde, yeh that is a usefull solution
[19:18] <battlepotc> thanks
[19:19] <BarkingFish> battlepotc: sorry to make you go over stuff, what wireless are you having grief with and what is the problem?
[19:19] <user031> i dont know jrib
[19:19] <user031> should i be using something like chroot
[19:19] <jrib> user031: what happens when you try to access them?
[19:19] <user031> ?
[19:19] <user031> i get an error
[19:19] <jrib> user031: what error?
[19:19] <user031> i cant recall
[19:19] <battlepotc> BarkingFish, i use the rt61 driver and  i have some kernel panics that doesnt let me shutdown my machine
[19:19] <user031> something to do with permissions
[19:19] <jrib> user031: that would be helpful.
[19:20] <BarkingFish> battlepotc: is it an internal or external wireless?
[19:20] <jrib> user031: run « gksudo nautilus » when you're on the live cd again
[19:20] <battlepotc> BarkingFish, external
[19:20] <user031> k
[19:20] <storrgie> sskalnik, did some poking around, your hosts will have to have udisks installed
[19:20] <hwilde> bug #200142
[19:20] <user031> i will give that a try
[19:20] <storrgie> which is an available package
[19:20] <PwrSurge> Exxon: unable to open display
[19:20] <BarkingFish> right. Have you tried running the device using ndiswrapper. battlepotc?
[19:20] <sskalnik> storrgie, I was just about to say!
[19:20] <PwrSurge> it says I have a Radeon HD 3600 series
[19:20] <PwrSurge> AIGLX
[19:20] <battlepotc> BarkingFish, no
[19:20] <battlepotc> but i dont think i need it
[19:21] <spoq> "kernel panic" sounds like it was having a very heavy burtation
[19:21] <battlepotc> the linux has the driver
[19:21] <user031> gona give ubuntu a try for a few months
[19:21] <BarkingFish> battlepotc: it's an alternative way of getting round if the inbuilt driver causes kernel panic
[19:21] <spoq> "kernel panic" sounds like it was having a very heavy burtation
[19:21] <user031> but i'll be missing openbox im sure
[19:21] <battlepotc> BarkingFish, i dont know how to use it
[19:21] <Exxon> PwrSurge, vesa drivers are not for compiz don't don't have ati drivers and work along..forget compiz it really don't matter if really want to work than fancy stuff
[19:21] <BarkingFish> i can teach you if you wish, it's not difficult
[19:21] <user031> can i be using some kind of tray while using unity jrib?
[19:21] <user031> for the open apps?
[19:21] <jrib> user031: I don't know
[19:22] <user031> i dont like that tray on the left
[19:22] <schultza> what happened to /etc/inittab ?
[19:22] <battlepotc> BarkingFish, i prefer some tutorial. can you recommend me one? :)
[19:22] <user031> would be nice to use it only for shortcuts
[19:22] <BarkingFish> battlepotc: not really, i don't know of any tutorials for it.
[19:22] <BarkingFish> I know how to use it, and regularly teach others on irc how to use it too
[19:22] <battlepotc> so can you give me the steps? i
[19:23] <BarkingFish> sure battlepotc - rather than clog the channel, I'll do it in PM with you if that's ok
[19:23] <battlepotc> sure
[19:23] <BarkingFish> one moment, i'll be right with you
[19:23] <hwilde> battlepotc, seriously, rip out your wifi card, throw it in the garbage, and buy a supported one
[19:23] <hwilde> do it now before you waste hours of your life with ndiswrapper
[19:24] <BarkingFish> hwilde: that's not a particularly fair assessment. I set up ndiswrapper in a quarter hour and I've been using it issue free for 4 years.
[19:24] <battlepotc> hwilde, can you sent me the money to a new one?
[19:25] <BarkingFish> if your answer is "buy something better", kindly fund it :)
[19:26] <jrib> !inittab | schultza
[19:28] <rkhshm> I recently upgraded to 11.10 from 11.04(wish i had not)
[19:28] <rkhshm> my realtek wireless does not work anymore
[19:28] <rkhshm> any fixes or should i rollback?
[19:28] <rkhshm> if its possbile
[19:29] <nick_h> hey guys. got a quick off-topic question for you
[19:29] <nick_h> are the dates in the left or right image easier to read?:  http://deadorange.com/temp/blue-compare.jpg
[19:29] <Exxon> rkhshm, what the module for realtek wireless
[19:29] <Pici> nick_h: Try #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:30] <rkhshm> Exxon: www.pastie.org/2934900
[19:31] <PwrSurge> please work
[19:31] <PwrSurge> please work
[19:31] <hwilde> nick_h, they are both horrible.  you're fired.
[19:31] <PwrSurge> doh
[19:31] <PwrSurge> failed again
[19:31] <PwrSurge> stupid ATI
[19:31] <Exxon> rkhshm, modprobe RTL8191SEvB
[19:31] <PwrSurge> sucks
[19:32] <ania> hi
[19:32] <Jinxed-> how do you add a route
[19:32] <rkhshm> Exxon: FATAL: Module RTL8191SEvB not found
[19:32] <Jinxed-> to the /etc/network/interfaces file
[19:33] <Exxon> PwrSurge, did you backput xorg before trying ..
[19:33] <PwrSurge> nothing to do with xorg
[19:34] <PwrSurge> it works when I boot failsafe then type startx at the terminal
[19:34] <Exxon> rkhshm, modprobe rtl8191se
[19:34] <Jinxed-> I currently have up route add -net 224.0.0.0/8 dev eth0
[19:34] <Jinxed-> but that doesn't seem to work
[19:34] <PwrSurge> but same xorg.conf does not work when booting normally
[19:35] <rkhshm> Exxon: the same error
[19:35] <Exxon> PwrSurge, must always make copy or backup of the xorg before editing or installing experimenting drivers
[19:35] <snikker> hi, i've installed grub2 (with kubuntu 10.11) and now i'm unable to run windows recovery partition <F9> key at boot, can you help me?
[19:35] <wyuka> in which channel can i get hold of the wubi developers?
[19:36] <hwilde> Jinxed-,   under the iface eth0 block add a line that says      up route add -net 224.0.0.0/8 dev eth0
[19:36] <hwilde> Jinxed-, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-add-permanent-static-routes-in-ubuntu.html
[19:36] <Exxon> rkhshm, sudo modprobe rtl8192se
[19:36] <hwilde> rkhshm, Exxon,   lsmod | grep rt                  to find the module name.
[19:37] <Exxon> hwilde, that ok
[19:38] <rkhshm> Exxon: http://www.pastie.org/2934900
[19:38] <balachmar> Hi would someone help me out with troubleshooting my pc? All usb devices have stopped working and lsusb only shows linux foundation 2.0 root hub x 3 and 6 x 1.1
[19:38] <hwilde> balachmar, sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart
[19:38] <rkhshm> Exxon: do i need this http://www.wireless-driver.com/realtek-rtl8191se-rtl8192se-wireless-drivers-utility/
[19:39] <Jinxed-> hwilde, does the file need special permissions
[19:39] <Jinxed-> because it doesn't seem to work for me
[19:39] <hwilde> Jinxed-, look at the example in the link I sent you
[19:40] <Exxon> rkhshm, that is it wlan0..wlan1 etc.
[19:40] <hwilde> Jinxed-,  look at the examples in  /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz
[19:41] <rkhshm> Exxon: what?
[19:41] <PwrSurge> why would X work in safe mode only?
[19:41] <Exxon> rkhshm, ifconfig wlan0 up
[19:41] <histo1> PwrSurge: driver issue
[19:42] <Exxon> rkhshm, iwlist wlan0 scan
[19:42] <PwrSurge> unity-greeter[2606]: segfault at 0 ip 003d9cbb sp bffdab80 error 4 in libgio-2.0.so.0.3000.0[341000+142000
[19:42] <raheel> is there any way to not set every single file chmod in appache server?
[19:42] <PwrSurge> this is in dmesg
[19:42] <PwrSurge> segfault
[19:42] <histo1> raheel: -R
[19:42] <rkhshm> Exxon: what do you want from that?
[19:42] <rkhshm> the whole output
[19:42] <raheel> histol how?
[19:42] <balachmar> hwilde: command not found (I guess hal is not present in 11.10 anymore). Also plugged in a usb stick, wasn't even recognized in the bios...
[19:43] <NeedSomeHelp> Hello, anyone know a little gimp?
[19:43] <histo1> raheel: chmod -R /path/to/folder      -R will change recursively
[19:43] <nick_h> Pici: thanks
[19:43] <rkhshm> becuase I can notice that wifi is up and its tying to acquire connectiong..
[19:43] <rkhshm> but fails
[19:43] <nick_h> hwilde: hah, true
[19:43] <histo1> NeedSomeHelp: that's not nice. Midgets or dwarf would be more appropriate. Or vertically challenged
[19:43] <Exxon> rkhshm, simpoy use root priv.. (already kernel module are loaded just want to pin them)
[19:44] <hwilde> nick_h,  you and #518fe6 anyways, this site will be your friend:   http://www.color-hex.com/color/e65290
[19:44] <francoes> ciao
[19:44] <francoes> !list
[19:44] <NeedSomeHelp> histo1: think you are mixing me with someone else
[19:44] <francoes> ciao
[19:44] <francoes> !list
[19:46] <CloudQc> It seems impossible to move the sidebar in Ubuntu to either the right or bottom - the problem is each time I go to select a file in eclipse, it comes over it, is there a way to keep it always opened and have the fullscreen stop at the border between that bar and the program?
[19:46] <Exxon> rkhshm, i would rather not suggest for compiling  kernel 2.6.X
[19:47] <histo1> NeedSomeHelp: No I was making a joke
[19:47] <histo1> !ask | NeedSomeHelp
[19:47] <histo1> !anyone | NeedSomeHelp
[19:47] <CloudQc> !patience
[19:47] <haider> i have installed ubuntu 11.10 using windows installer and it seems that, the wrong version got installed. pls help.. how can i verify this?
[19:48] <hwilde> haider, type   cat /etc/lsb-release    what does it say
[19:48] <Norwack> guys
[19:48] <Norwack> help me
[19:49] <hwilde> !ask | Norwack
[19:49] <haider> hwilde, where to type?
[19:49] <hwilde> haider, in a terminal
[19:50] <hasufell> how can I maximize/minimize a window via dbus?
[19:50] <Norwack> im using wubi and it have beeing show installing ubuntu 11.10 for over an hour, over the progess bar it says: expanding and the progress bar have been going from left to the right multiply times, is it installed? or have it some kind of froze? any help would be appriciated :-)
[19:50] <haider> sorry i m new in linux, how to access terminal?
[19:50] <histo> haider: why do you thik the wrong version got installed?
[19:51] <histo> haider: press alt+f2 and type in gnome-terminal and hit enter
[19:51] <lucidguy> Anyone ever hear of an issue where Ubuntu/linux will only utilize 10%-20% CPU usage on certain apps?
[19:51] <haider> k wil try it
[19:51] <bfreis> Does someone here know any tool to backup my system to a S3 bucket on Amazon Web Services?
[19:52] <PwrSurge> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1860240
[19:52] <PwrSurge> FINALLY!
[19:52] <haider> histo, now what?
[19:52] <hasufell> bfreis: rsync
[19:52] <PwrSurge> fixed
[19:52] <PwrSurge> it was not even a graphics driver issue
[19:53] <raheel> thanks histol thanks a lot
[19:53] <Norwack> No one answered my question :-(
[19:53] <hasufell> Norwack: well, mine neither, lol
[19:53] <balachmar> Anybody else got any idea? USB stopped working, usb stick not recognized in bios. lsusb also shows up only root devices... Is my usb on the motherboard dead?
[19:53] <naftilos76> hi can anybody suggest a peer-to-peer app for ubuntu? MP3s, videos etc...
[19:53] <hasufell> balachmar: try with usb-controller
[19:54] <bfreis> hasufell: yeah, I know I can write something by myself using rsync. I just don't want to manually rsync my files. I want a tool that would allow me to define backup profiles (incremental daily backups, full weekly backups, specify folders, etc)
[19:54] <Norwack> hasufell: I Know, wonder why no body is using askubuntu.com
[19:54] <Kamiccolo> naftilos76, in what network are You interested in?
[19:54] <Freestyle> hey
[19:54] <Norwack> im using wubi and it have beeing show installing ubuntu 11.10 for over an hour, over the progess bar it says: expanding and the progress bar have been going from left to the right multiply times, is it installed? or have it some kind of froze? any help would be appriciated :-) IMAGE: http://morsomt.net/e/1322510487.png
[19:54] <balachmar> hasufell, what should I try? With a seperate usb controller on a pci card? I don't have one...
[19:54] <ratcheer> bfreis: Take a look at Deja Dup
[19:54] <hasufell> bfreis: Grsync is a ui for rsync
[19:55] <bfreis> hasufell: ok, thanks. I know about rsync AND grsync. Seems like you don't understand what I want. Forget it.
[19:55] <bfreis> I want something like "Syncback" (for windows) from 2brightsparks
[19:55] <hasufell> balachmar: well, hard to tell. you can at least try the stick on another pc, but that wont tell you whats the problem on your mainboard
[19:55] <bfreis> ratcheer: I will take a look, thanks!
[19:56] <bfreis> "Déjà Dup is a simple backup tool. It hides the complexity of backing up the Right Way (encrypted, off-site, and regular) and uses duplicity as the backend"
[19:56] <bfreis> seems like what I'm looking for!
[19:56] <hasufell> bfreis: i dont see the problem, you can control rsync with simple scripts you can add it as a cronjob and so on
[19:56] <balachmar> hasufell, the devices themselves work fine
[19:56] <Norwack> OMG, Is no one going to help me?????
[19:57] <bfreis> hasufell: the problem is exactly what you described: I don't want to write "simple scripts" and control anything with cron. Ideally, I'd want to apt-get install something, launch a software once, input my S3 key and it should do its job automatically. If you insist that I should write a bunch of scripts, thanks, but you aren't helping here.
[19:57] <hasufell> bfreis: i backup my root-fs with a double klick to a remote system
[19:57] <balachmar> Norwack: It is probably just installing still, maybe it is expanding some disk image?
[19:57] <ratcheer> bfreis: You're welcome. Deja Dup is what I use, and I've used pro backup tools on large systems for many years.
[19:57] <Pici> Norwack: If no one knows the answer, no one is going to be able to provide help.  You're free to search on our forums or on askubuntu.com while you wait.  I'd like to add that many people feel that wubi is not worth the troubles that go along with it.
[19:57] <bfreis> ratcheer: great! thanks for the tip!
[19:58] <Norwack> wubi have worked great before, a couple days ago it worked
[19:59] <elb0w> So i just installed ubuntu on one of our servers and all I have are random specs of colors
[19:59] <elb0w> when it boots
[19:59] <elb0w> any idea?
[20:00] <hasufell> elb0w: does not happen with the livecd i guess?
[20:00] <elb0w> hasufell: installed it straight
[20:00] <elb0w> didnt go to live cd
[20:00] <bfreis> holy crap, is there any big web host down today? Launchpad is horribly slow, so is stackoverflow and many other sites!
[20:01] <hasufell> elb0w: try livecd...
[20:01] <elb0w> hasufell: why
[20:01] <OerHeks> elb0w, sounds like bad videocard, or bad cooling
[20:01] <elb0w> it has nvidia cards in it
[20:01] <hasufell> elb0w: if its not even working there, then its about the installation/setup itself
[20:01] <hasufell> of ubuntu i mean
[20:02] <elb0w> grub works
[20:02] <hasufell> elb0w: try with knoppix as well. if it does not work in knoppix, it wont work anywhere
[20:02] <elb0w> ive used this cd on 5 other machines
[20:02] <elb0w> no issue
[20:02] <elb0w> knoppix?
[20:02] <teddie> bfreis, it's probably the cold winter weather causing more ice to block the tubes?
[20:02] <haider> hwilde, i mean amd64 version got installed instead of intel 32 bit coz it has been showing amd64 everywhere.
[20:02] <hasufell> elb0w: thats a rescue livecd it has the best hardware detection i know of
[20:02] <boxbeatsy> hi, im going to buy a new laptop today, and i'm looking at this one (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834214506).  i'm going ot be using it for general programming on ubuntu and dual booting into windows for gaming (low graphics settings fine as long as recent games run).  can anyone take a look and confirm that i'm not overlooking anything.  it seems too cheap.
[20:02] <NeedSomeHelp> Hello, anyone know a little gimp?
[20:03] <hasufell> elb0w: if knoppix does not work properly for you its definitley a hardware issue...
[20:03] <bfreis> teddie: maybe! though where I live it is 32 C (90 F) right now!
[20:03] <boxbeatsy> i looked up how the CPU/video card benchmark and they both seem on the high end
[20:03] <teddie> bfreis, I mean in the countries where they are hosted :P they are usually hosted in cool locations to keep cooling costs low
[20:03] <teddie> so naturally ice will form in the intertubes in winter
[20:04] <CloudQc> boxbeatsy - you wont be running many games with that (unless you mean chess or some other 2d games)
[20:05] <boxbeatsy> CloudQc: i was looking up video card benchmarks and it seems to score pretty well (http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video_lookup.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+6520G).  do you think i will be able to run starcraft2 on it?
[20:05] <fornix> can i install ubuntu on a dynamic disk?
[20:07] <haider> help me, amd64 version got installed instead of intel 32 bit
[20:07] <haider> help me, it seems amd64 version got installed instead of intel 32 bit
[20:07] <elb0w> hasufell: nomodeset worked fine
[20:07] <Jezzz> hello all
[20:07] <Jezzz> is there a way to a 'flushdns' in ubuntu?
[20:07] <Jezzz> <- dirty windows user
[20:07] <fornix> haider: whats wrong with and64?
[20:08] <ratcheer> haider: If you need 32-bit, then you just need to reinstall from scratch.
[20:08] <fornix> haider: dont get confused by the "amd" word in amd64. Intel 64 bit processors like core2duo or i3, etc should use amd64 if you want 64 bit os
[20:09] <PacketPenguin> ipod touch latest generation work in 11.10 using banshee?
[20:10] <bfreis> ratcheer: hey, about deja-dup, I've seen some printscreens showing "S3" as an option for the backup location, however it doesn't show up here in my installation! Any ideas?
[20:10] <haider> fornix: whats the difference b/w 32bit and 64?
[20:10] <Jezzz> '/etc/init.d/nscd restart' says no such file
[20:10] <bfreis> ratcheer: oh, never mind... I've just found it...
[20:11] <ratcheer> bfreis: I've never used it. I think it is a cloud service you have to subscribe to.
[20:11] <bfreis> ratcheer: the GUI looks a bit buggy, since I'm on kde and it seems like a gtk interface
[20:12] <fornix> Jezzz: u need to install nscd
[20:12] <rewb0rn> hi, i am running a remote ubuntu server. i started a java programm that is listening on ports 9933 and 80, but i can only connect to port 9933. netstat -nlp tells me that my app is listening to both ports. what am i missing?
[20:12] <haider> also when i use synaptic package manager and install any package it says size mismatch?
[20:13] <haider> pls help?
[20:13] <Jezzz> fornix:  ok.  in the absence of nscd, what handles dns caching?
[20:13] <ania> if you want to see different between 32 bit and 64 bit ....write it in googler
[20:13] <elb0w> how do you find the fastest apt server from shell?
[20:13] <CloudQc> boxbeatsy: I cant say for sure, but I wouldnt even try with that card, it might run, but not very well
[20:13] <vto> hi, anyone with a 8800gts 320 (g80) beinf able to platback videos without tearing in twinview ?
[20:14] <CloudQc> fixed all my ubuntu problems by installing gnome desktop!
[20:14] <CloudQc> <-- is happy
[20:14] <fornix> Jezzz: I personally never had to use flushdns on linux machine. its smarter
[20:14] <Jezzz> fornix:  hmm..well, i just added a host and it's showing on my windows box, but not my linux one
[20:14] <captain_hook> if my machine reboots at home is it possible to log back into the newly started gnome session trough ssh ? (the vnc server staring after the login screen)
[20:15] <fornix> haider: not much difference in 64 bit and 32 bit systems if you dont have a system with lots of RAM. > 4 GB or so.
[20:15] <sandstrom> How can I hide processes such as "    2 root      20   0     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.01 kthreadd" from top?
[20:15] <fornix> Jezzz: when you say u added a host, what do you exactly mean? you connect a pc on ur network?
[20:15] <max10> ciao
[20:15] <max10> !list
[20:15] <Jezzz> fornix:  added an A record in zone file
[20:16] <rafal_> hi all
[20:16] <LilleCarl> sandstrom ive tries to achieve the same
[20:16] <boxbeatsy> CloudQc: gotcha, thanks
[20:16] <balachmar> mmm, no usb devices are detected, but they are powered, because the usb hard disk is spinning...
[20:17] <raven> i have following "ACPI Error: A valid RSDP was not found (20090903/tbxfroot-219)" - what is that and how to solve that?
[20:17] <fornix> Jezzz: are you adding hostnames to /etc/hosts file? its equivalent to ur hosts file in windows/system32/drivers/etc/hosts
[20:18] <Jezzz> fornix:  do a domain's dns records
[20:18] <Jezzz> fornix:  -do +to
[20:18] <spoq> spinning?
[20:18] <spoq> are you a Deejay?
[20:19] <fornix> Jezzz: your /etc/resolv.conf has ur dns server ip correctly?
[20:19] <Jezzz> fornix:  no idea what that is, but if I ping the host I created, it's not found
[20:19] <fornix> Jezzz: check with $ sudo cat /etc/etc/resolv.conf
[20:19] <fornix> Jezzz: drop one /etc
[20:20] <Jezzz> fornix:  yep, that looks fine
[20:20] <fornix> Jezzz: do you find a line called nameserver x.x.x.x where x.x.x.x is ur dns server ip
[20:20] <Jezzz> fornix:  yes
[20:21] <fornix> Jezzz: when u ping, does it resolve the ip address correctly?
[20:21] <Jezzz> fornix:  when I ping the new host?
[20:21] <fornix> Jezzz: yes.
[20:21] <raven> i have following "ACPI Error: A valid RSDP was not found (20090903/tbxfroot-219)" - what is that and how to solve that?
[20:21] <Jezzz> fornix:  no, says unknown host - that's why I'm trying to refresh my dns cache
[20:22] <fornix> Jezzz: your dns ip has a valid route right? maybe the sytem is not able to reach the dns server. try pinging dns server ip
[20:22] <PwrSurge> thanks ubuntu for wasting my entire day
[20:23] <Jezzz> fornix:  I can ping the dns server.  i can ping other sites fine, and browse the web fine.
[20:23] <Jezzz> fornix:  if my system couldn't reach the dns server, I wouldn't be able to connect to freenode.net ;)
[20:24] <Schmuck> hi
[20:24] <fornix> Jezzz: oh u r talkin about a dns server on the internet :P I thought it was some internal network.
[20:24] <Schmuck> yes i agree good sir
[20:25] <Jezzz> fornix:  yes :)
[20:25] <Packi> hi
[20:25] <fornix> Jezzz: nscd restarting seems to be the solution. dont know other way to flush the dns cache. are you sure the dns server has picked up the new host
[20:25] <PackiScmusk> where are we?
[20:25] <PackiScmusk> is this the internets
[20:25] <Jezzz> fornix:  i suppose that could be the issue, i'm not sure if this particular dns server has it or not
[20:26] <fornix> Jezzz: whats the host. let me try if i can ping it
[20:28] <Exxon> fornix, what you want thei ip of his dns :((
[20:29] <fornix> Exxon: Just the new host which he is trying to ping using his DNS
[20:29] <Exxon> fornix, he can resolve it by himself as his hosting his own web server
[20:31] <Jezzz> Exxon:  trying to find out why I can't ping the new host from my local ubuntu box, not resolve the ip from hostname
[20:31] <Sazpaimon> so I'm in a liveCD install to clone my drive (/dev/sdc) to a fresh new drive (/dev/sda)
[20:31] <Sazpaimon> I accidently dd'd sda to sdc initially, and realized my mistake a few seconds later
[20:32] <Exxon> Jezzz, you are inside the dmz, you have got to work it alone we can ask you many think that can danger your server itself
[20:32] <Sazpaimon> however, the partition table is now wiped out
[20:32] <Sazpaimon> what can I do?
[20:33] <dweez> maybe the new host is blocking ICMP
[20:33] <sysdoc> Sazpaimon, testdisk\
[20:34] <Sazpaimon> testdisk can retore a missing partition table?
[20:34] <Sazpaimon> or will it just let me get the files off it?
[20:34] <sysdoc> yup
[20:34] <Sazpaimon> okay thank goodness
[20:34] <Sazpaimon> hopefully I didn't zero out any actual data
[20:34] <Sazpaimon> probably just the windows recovery partition
[20:34] <sysdoc> Sazpaimon,  http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[20:35] <sharpK> does anyone here have experience sharing a wireless printer through samba (with ubuntu as a server) to windows computers on the network?
[20:36] <mutante> is it like a default that these are dropped in ufw firewall?  chain  "ufw-user-input":  tcp dpt:afs3-vlserver   tcp dpt:57868
[20:41] <gasull> I can't open an iso in usb-creator-gtk.  I don't get an error or anything.
[20:42] <gasull> I see. I think it's only for Ubuntu .iso's.
[20:42] <haider> what does size mismatch means when i try to install any package from synaptic package manager??
[20:42] <gasull> haider: try sudo apt-get update
[20:42] <Wolfsherz> can someone tell me where to get the ubuntu lightdm theme?
[20:43] <gasull> haider: I think it means the file it's trying to install doesn't much the size it's supposed to have.
[20:44] <haider> gasull: so whats the remedy?
[20:44] <Somelauw> What is the opensource alternative to solidworks?
[20:45] <guntbert> Somelauw: what is solidworks?
[20:45] <sskalnik> Anyone knowledgeable about packaging? The official channel for that is unresponsive.
[20:45] <gasull> If I have an .iso image, that isn't a Ubuntu distro, how do I copy it to a usb that will autorun?
[20:45] <gasull> haider: sudo apt-get update
[20:45] <andyn> use unetbootin
[20:45] <Somelauw> guntbert: It is a program to draw 3d shapes of objects that can move.
[20:45] <sskalnik> gasull, so you mean you want to boot a nonUbuntu iso from a CD?
[20:45] <andyn> it can write linux .isos on usb sticks.
[20:45] <_Neytiri_> I am having a problem installing ubuntu 11.10 on my system it failed on the bootloader install
[20:45] <sskalnik> Try unetbootin
[20:45] <mario_> heelo therekernel: [5992365.461631] hub 1-3:1.0: hub_port_status failed (err = -110)
[20:46] <mario_> I'm having thousands of lines like
[20:46] <mario_> kernel: [5992365.461631] hub 1-3:1.0: hub_port_status failed (err = -110)
[20:46] <ania> _Neytiri_: what it says
[20:46] <sskalnik> _Neytiri_, normal install, or custom setup on the partitions?
[20:46] <guntbert> Somelauw: as you may have guessed already, I have no idea, sorry
[20:46] <mario_> is there any way to stop the usb subsystem?
[20:46] <_Neytiri_> custom
[20:46] <trism> Wolfsherz: the default greeter is unity-greeter https://launchpad.net/unity-greeter combined with the Ambiance theme
[20:47] <sskalnik> _Neytiri_, what is your partition layout on the disc(s)
[20:47] <Wolfsherz> any way to get that installed on xubuntu trism?
[20:47] <WanderingEnder> Is there a TERM setting I need to send in PuTTY to get screen to display characters right?
[20:48] <ania> when choose custom instal....when asking about bootloader location set ....disc name np sd ....not sda1!! for example
[20:48] <trism> Wolfsherz: sudo apt-get install unity-greeter; and change: greeter-session=unity-greeter in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[20:48] <figure002> hello! can anyone tell me if it's possible to install Debian next to Ubuntu without overwriting the GRUB (like it's possible with Ubuntu Alternate CD)?
[20:48] <Wolfsherz> thank you trism
[20:49] <_Neytiri_> sskalnik, on the first disk partition1 is /       partition 2 is swap partition 3 is /boot                      on the second disk parition 1 is /home    partition 2 is /home/user/bleh
[20:49] <Pici> figure002: That would be a better question for #debian
[20:49] <sskalnik> _Neytiri_, the bootloader likes to be on an ext3/4 filesystem at the start of the drive
[20:49] <figure002> Pici: true, will try there, thanks
[20:50] <sskalnik> _Neytiri_, put /boot as the first partition on one of the drives
[20:50] <_Neytiri_> ok
[20:50] <_Neytiri_> never had that issue on other distro's
[20:51] <sskalnik> _Neytiri_, which distros?
[20:51] <_Neytiri_> ubuntu 10.4, 10.10
[20:52] <_Neytiri_> top
[20:52] <sskalnik> _Neytiri_, Also, are you installing GRUB to the MBR, or some other configuration?
[20:52] <gasull> andyn: thanks.
[20:52] <_Neytiri_> last i checked it was grub
[20:54] <snikker> hi, i've installed grub2 (with oneiric) and now i'm unable to run windows recovery partition <F9> key at boot, can you help me?
[20:54] <grendal-prime> anyone installed ubuntu on a dell inspiron 1525
[20:55] <grendal-prime> !compaibility
[20:55] <Kovica> hi all.
[20:56] <sskalnik> Hi
[20:56] <Kovica> I have a questoin about creating an CD/DVD for an unattended installation of ubuntu/xubuntu/... that would also install one of my application which unfortunatelly is not a deb package
[20:56] <Wolfsherz> trism, did what you said, but it does not work. the screen flashes in textmode now
[20:56] <sskalnik> _Neytiri_, where is GRUB being installed?
[20:57] <sskalnik> In the MBR of the first or second drive?
[20:57] <_Neytiri_> dev/sda
[20:57] <mario_> does any one know how to stop the usb subsystem?
[20:57] <trism> Wolfsherz: can you pastebin /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[20:57] <Kovica> Is it possible to change the default installation process?
[20:58] <sskalnik> _Neytiri_, is this a new install with a blank pair of drives?
[20:58] <sskalnik> Kovica, Yes
[20:58] <_Neytiri_> yes
[20:58] <Kovica> sskalnik: Can it be changed so that I can add additional steps?
[20:58] <Wolfsherz> trism: http://pastebin.com/g6YWjJ7D
[20:58] <sskalnik> _Neytiri_, any specific need for /boot to be on /sda3?
[20:59] <_Neytiri_> no not really i changed it and took it out and just have 2 partitions
[20:59] <sskalnik> _Neytiri_, I would try it with /boot on /sda1
[20:59] <sskalnik> _Neytiri_, OK, give that a shot
[20:59] <sysdoc> Kovica, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/UnattendedCD
[20:59] <sskalnik> Kovica, what would you like to add?
[21:00] <trism> Wolfsherz: looks right to me, take a look at the logs in /var/log/lightdm and see if there are any strange errors
[21:00] <sskalnik> Kovica, you can add a post/pre-install script
[21:00] <usr13> sskalnik: Why would it matter whether /boot is on the first or third partition?
[21:00] <Kovica> sskalnik,: Id for example add installation of DB2. I'd get the tar.gz from Internet, create users that DB2 needs, ...
[21:01] <_Neytiri_> grrrrrrrrrr buggy software from hell
[21:01] <sskalnik> Kovica, Yes that should be possible with a preseed and/or post-install script.
[21:01] <_Neytiri_> i love it when software crashes on me
[21:01] <usr13> _Neytiri_: What crashed?
[21:01] <_Neytiri_> the 11.10 installer
[21:02] <Kovica> sysdoc: I've tried that, but didn't get an unattended install. I got a normal install. :(
[21:02] <Kovica> sskalnik: And how would I do that?
[21:02] <axl_> hey guys, i am trying to upgrade apache2 from version 2.2.14 to 2.2.21. i did a sudo apt-get install apache2 which did not end up upgrading to that version. what is the most convenient way to do it ?
[21:02] <trism> Wolfsherz: ahh, check this out: http://askubuntu.com/questions/68234/is-it-possible-to-use-the-unity-greeter-for-lightdm-on-xubuntu-11-10 seems you need to install gnome-settings-daemon too (it is required by unity-greeter but appears not to be a dep)
[21:02] <Kovica> sskalnik: How can I then do an ISO image of the installation process?
[21:03] <Wolfsherz> trism thank you! and found a message in the log too about it
[21:03] <mikeg> so how do I make alt-tab or an equivalent respect workspaces?
[21:03] <sskalnik> _Neytiri_, have you checked the disc for defects?
[21:04] <_Neytiri_> no
[21:04] <sskalnik> _Neytiri_, if it crashes and fails to install the bootloader, it could be a bad disc
[21:04] <usr13> axl_: What version of Ubuntu do you have installed?
[21:05] <_Neytiri_> it crashed at a differetn point
[21:05] <_Neytiri_> coppying files
[21:05] <Si2100> Hey
[21:05] <axl_> usr13: I am using I am using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[21:05] <Sazpaimon> okay so looking at the data, it looks like the first 373 megabytes of the drive have been zeroed out
[21:06] <Sazpaimon> hopefully testdisk can restore some type of partition layout :/
[21:06] <sskalnik> Kovica, you would either remaster the CD with the preseed and postinstall script added, or just make a bootable USB installer and toss in the preseed and postinstall script.
[21:06] <usr13> axl_: I think you are already at the newest version for 10.04
[21:06] <underclock> how do I make font larger on my firefox
[21:07] <axl_> usr13: apparently the newest version is 2.2.21 and I have 2.2.14 installed
[21:07] <Kovica> sskalnik: Is sounds good, but how can I do the whole thing?
[21:07] <sskalnik> https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html
[21:07] <usr13> axl_: sudo apt-get upgrade apache2
[21:07] <axl_> usr13: tried that. can't specify a software after upgrade
[21:07] <sskalnik> Kovica, that would be mostly for you to determine
[21:07] <axl_> usr13: it ends up upgrading all packages
[21:08] <axl_> not sure I wan to do that
[21:08] <hilarie> how to restore my system tray? I killed my clock and off button and stuff
[21:09] <Kovica> sskalnik: I don't mean how to install DB2, I just mean how to write those preseed files, where to put them, ...?
[21:09] <sskalnik> Kovica, Basically, if you know the commands to install and set up DB2, you can toss those in the post-install script, create a preseed file that executes that post-install script after the main install of Ubuntu is done, then tell the installer to use that preseed instead of the normal install
[21:09] <sskalnik> Kovica, The preseed file goes in the /preseed folder of the ISO/USB
[21:10] <sskalnik> Kovica, the script can go anywhere. I put it in the root of the ISO or USB
[21:10] <Kovica> sskalnik: Ok, sound like a plan. would those preseed files be automatically "executed" by the installer?
[21:11] <usr13> axl_: is there something in 2.2.21 that you really need?
[21:11] <mikeg> so in 11.10 with unity, how do I make alt-tab or an equivalent respect workspaces like it used to. I want to have more than one "set" of applications open at a time?
[21:11] <Utopiah> hi #ubuntu
[21:11] <axl_> usr13: apparently 2.2.14 has some vulnerabilities
[21:11] <axl_> usr13: I want to avoid them'
[21:12] <sskalnik> Kovica, Yes, if you do this sort of thing: edit the syslinux or isolinux .cfg to have a DEFAULT of whateveryouwant, then LABEL whateveryouwant, then this:
[21:12] <sskalnik> DEFAULT microserver
[21:12] <sskalnik> LABEL microserver
[21:12] <sskalnik>   menu label ^microserver
[21:12] <sskalnik>   kernel /install/vmlinuz
[21:12] <sskalnik>   append  preseed/file=/cdrom/preseed/microserver.seed debian-installer/locale=en_US console-setup/layoutcode=us localechooser/translation/warn-light=true localechooser/translation/warn-severe=true initrd=/install/initrd.gz priority=critical ramdisk_size=16384 root=/dev/ram rw quiet --
[21:12] <FloodBot1> sskalnik: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:12] <usr13> mikeg: What do you mean?  (Alt-Tab switches windows not work-spaces)
[21:12] <sskalnik> sigh
[21:12] <mikeg> usr13: it used to switch between windows in a workspace, now it switches between windows in all workspaces.
[21:12] <sysdoc> lol
[21:13] <usr13> mikeg: Far as I know, it always did that.
[21:13] <mikeg> usr13: I like my workspaces segregated because I'll have say eclipse and ff open in 3 different workspaces but one is for web dev, one for c++, and one for reading the nets
[21:13] <mikeg> usr13: nope.
[21:13] <Kovica> sskalnik: OK, then in that preseed file I can run a plain bash script to untar gz files, create users, ....?
[21:13] <sskalnik> Kovica, here's an example preseed directive in the syslinux / isolinux cfg file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/752983/
[21:14] <mikeg> usr13: I've got 11.04 running classic desktop on my desktop and it behaves as I said, my laptop has 11.10 and it has the current behavior (which sucks for me)
[21:14] <GRMrGecko> Would this work with scalpel for extracting mysql dumps? http://p.webra.in/r
[21:14] <Kovica> sskalnik: great, thanks. Do you also have an example of preseed file?
[21:14] <sskalnik> Kovica, in that preseed file, do something like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/752985/
[21:15] <usr13> mikeg: I see that you are correct.  In gnome2 Alt-Tab would only switch between windows in one workspace.
[21:15] <sskalnik> That will copy the script from the CD or USB, then set it executable, then run it
[21:15] <Kovica> sskalnik: I understand... Are this scripts run as root?
[21:15] <usr13> mikeg: I guess that's not the way it works in Unity.
[21:15] <sskalnik> Kovica, you can do more cool stuff with a preseed, but I'll let you look all that up in the Ubuntu docs.
[21:16] <mikeg> usr13: so is there a good way to re-enable that. I like the search overlay of unity like win 7, but I don't want to shut down all non-task related firefoxes
[21:16] <sskalnik> Kovica, the script is run as root
[21:17] <Kovica> sskalnik: so this preeseed file is unintended install, right?
[21:17] <sskalnik> Kovica, Yes, it's for unattended install.
[21:17] <bekks> Kovica: unattended. not unintended ;)
[21:17] <Raweed> Ubuntu keeps crashing whenever i lock my laptops mouspad thing, has anyone else encountered this problem?
[21:17] <Kovica> bekks: ups, you a right :)
[21:18] <sskalnik> Kovica, however, it only automates what you tell it to. Thus, if you only tell it to run the post-install script, it will prompt you for everything as usual and ONLY automatically run that script.
[21:18] <usr13> mikeg: I'm not sure.  Maybe someone else knows how it can be done.
[21:18] <mario_> so USB subsystem cannot be shutdown or nobody here know is this is doable?
[21:18] <storrgie> in ubuntu 11.10 server is there newer kernels available than the 3.0.0-13 ?
[21:19] <mikeg> usr13: guess I'll ask again then
[21:19] <sskalnik> Kovica, you can also use preseed to automate everything though. I use it so that I can plug in a USB drive, reboot, and come back in ten minutes and just remove the drive and hit "OK, reboot into my fresh install" :D
[21:19] <Kovica> sskalnik: aha. So If I tell it to use slovene keyboard layout, create tux user and run post-install script, then the installer will still ask me about the partition I want ubuntu to install insto, right?
[21:20] <sskalnik> Kovica, You got it!
[21:20] <mario_> storrgie: the only package I see is 3.0.0.13.15
[21:20] <Kovica> sskalnik: hehe.. fast learner :) I'll see tomorrow :)
[21:21] <mikeg> so in 11.10 with unity, how do I make alt-tab or an equivalent respect workspaces like it used to in 11.04 classic and regular before. I often have different workspaces for different tasks, eg Java development, general browsing, C++ development. In these workspaces I have Eclipse, Terminal, and Firefox usually. I used to be able to alt-tab just between the apps in the workspace, now it goes through ALL of the apps in ALL workspaces. How can I change it
[21:21] <mikeg>  back? It seems workspaces are pretty much useless at the moment on a laptop doing everything full screen.
[21:21] <sskalnik> Kovica, check out the Ubuntu docs for preseed. There are also preseed example files that you might find useful as a template
[21:21] <usr13> mikeg: Here is a discussion about the use of Alt-Tab in Unity: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1720998
[21:22] <Kovica> sskalnik: I've found susestudio.com where you create your installation of SUSE. It is simple to use, but I'd like to use ubuntu instead since I'd been a ubuntu user for couple of years..
[21:23] <TeamFDcoAdmin> Hello. I recently upgraded Ubuntu 10.04 to 10.10. Now i have a lot of boot enteries in the grub2 boot loader and when i boit some kernels the PC freezes after some minutes.. can i remove the old kernels? If yes, how. Thanx.
[21:23] <Kovica> sskalnik: it uses KIWI behind it. The page says that KIWI is distribution-agnostic, but there are no docs about other distributions beind used instead SUSE.
[21:23] <sskalnik> Kovica, yeah, preseed is very much a manual thing, but it is worth it. Hit me up on the forums as djsephiroth if you need any preseed help.
[21:24] <guntbert> TeamFDcoAdmin: use your favourite software manager to remove them
[21:24] <mikeg> usr13: yeah, I tried that. didn't work that well. I'll try again but it still seems pretty broken. Why are workspaces even there if this is how it's going to work?
[21:24] <sskalnik> Kovica, sounds like it should be agnostic in theory, but you know what they say about theory and practice
[21:24] <Kovica> sskalnik: yes. :)
[21:24] <TeamFDcoAdmin> guntbert, Can I use synaptic package manager? Can it damage my system...?
[21:25] <Kovica> sskalnik: Ok, thanks for now. Let me try a few things and I'll find you somewhere if I need some more help. Thanks a lot.
[21:25] <usr13> mikeg: Was just checking and xfce confines Alt-Tab to windows in current workspace too.
[21:25] <guntbert> TeamFDcoAdmin: yes you can use synaptic, and no it will not damage your system, if you only remove old kernels
[21:25] <craigbass1976> Perhaps a dumb question, but is there a way to send faxes without a modem?
[21:26] <AndroidLoverInSF> is there a way to trigger the unity menu via remote vnc client? when i move mouse to left it doesn't trigger. i can only use mouse to right click and open terminal windows
[21:26] <usr13> craigbass1976: faxfree
[21:26] <TeamFDcoAdmin> guntbert, Oh okay thanks for yer help.
[21:26] <sskalnik> Kovica, you are welcome!
[21:26] <GRMrGecko> If anyone can respond to me about this http://p.webra.in/r that'll be good
[21:26] <usr13> craigbass1976: Typo, it's faxzero   faxzero.com
[21:26] <guntbert> TeamFDcoAdmin: in synaptic do a "quicksearch" for linux-image, then remove the oldest entries
[21:27] <mikeg> usr13: urg, that's great and all but I actually like a lot of what unity does like the search to launch. it saves a lot of space. Why can't it just allow easy return to the previous behavior?
[21:27] <TeamFDcoAdmin> guntbert, it also created a second entery for windows 7 how can i remove this one?
[21:28] <guntbert> TeamFDcoAdmin: not sure here, sorry
[21:28] <usr13> mikeg: What is "search to launch"?
[21:28] <trism> mikeg: this will apparently be the behavior in precise, https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/863399 (according to the comments at the end)
[21:28] <mikeg> usr13: super key, type fire, enter
[21:28] <n2diy> Ok, I've been using linux for ten years, and it just occurred to me, that I don't know how to write a simple "Hello World" program!? In the old days I'd use Qbasic, but what do I use now, Bash?
[21:28] <TeamFDcoAdmin> guntbert, okay i think ill manage to edit the grub config file but thank you for your help with the kernels.
[21:29] <jrib> n2diy: use whatever you want :)
[21:29] <usr13> mikeg: I think that is just a hot-key assignment. Right?
[21:29] <billybob3> @n2diy: python
[21:29] <guntbert> TeamFDcoAdmin: you're welcome :-) do you have grub1 or grub2?
[21:29] <dr3mro> hello , I use ubuntu 11.10 with unity .. every thing is gr8 but i need to lock my screen when i am away .. i don't know how .. and my screen settings lock are greyed out can any one help me http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/2243/screenshotat20111128232.jpg
[21:29] <usr13> mikeg: .... same as Alt-F2  ?
[21:29] <craigbass1976> usr13, ahh.  I was thinking something I could install.  Nothing?  I don't see anything in the repos yet
[21:29] <mikeg> usr13: not sure. reading
[21:29] <TeamFDcoAdmin> guntbert, grub2
[21:30] <n2diy> billybob3, ok, thanks.
[21:30] <usr13> craigbass1976: You could install a modem.
[21:30] <mikeg> usr13: yeah alt-f2 is search to me :)
[21:30] <TeamFDcoAdmin> guntbert, Oh nevermind about the Windows 7 thing i found this app called Grub customizer to edit the enteries of grub2 or BURG... i think that worked.
[21:31] <guntbert> TeamFDcoAdmin: then editing /boot/grub/grub.conf  is not really adviseable; changes are made to /etc/default/grub
[21:31] <Snorlax> I'm having some serious software center problems, am I in the right channel for some help?
[21:31] <usr13> craigbass1976: Why not just use a modem?
[21:31] <craigbass1976> usr13, I'm not running a phone line out here.
[21:31] <TeamFDcoAdmin> guntbert, Yep. That solved my problem...
[21:32] <TeamFDcoAdmin> guntbert, Thanks anyway.
[21:32] <usr13> craigbass1976: Ok, well there are some VOIP solutions that support fax.
[21:32] <guntbert> TeamFDcoAdmin: :)
[21:32] <guntbert> Snorlax: yes, just ask your real question please
[21:33] <craigbass1976> usr13, We have a brother mfc-7840W, but it doesn't support faxing via the network in Linux.  I could quietly take a hammer to this one...  Then I've just got to research linux friendly all-in-one rigs
[21:33] <Snorlax> I'm getting the error "The package libbonobo2-common needs to be reinstalled" Whenever I try installing anything through Terminal. Software center is broken for me and won't launch after many restarts
[21:34] <usr13> craigbass1976: A fax machine without a phone line is not useful.
[21:34] <guntbert> Snorlax: begin with sudo apt-get update
[21:35] <usr13> craigbass1976: But you can just scan your document, convert to .pdf and use faxzero.
[21:35] <craigbass1976> usr13, the fax machine is plugged into a phone line, it's just in another room.
[21:35] <tommylommykins> What's the proper way to make a change to my path variable permanent?
[21:35] <usr13> craigbass1976: you can't move it?
[21:35] <Snorlax> guntbert: Will do and report back, thanks!
[21:36] <guntbert> Snorlax: no problem :)   -- I am off though - Good luck :-)
[21:37] <tommylommykins> What's the proper way to make a change to my path variable permanent?
[21:37] <usr13> tommylommykins: PATH=$PATH\:/dir/path ; export PATH
[21:37] <teddie> .bashrc
[21:37] <tommylommykins> WHich one?
[21:38] <Kovica> sskalnik: It is me again. :) I'm looking at the ISO file ob ubuntu 11.10 desktop. You've said I should edit isolinux/isolinux.cfg to add the DEFAULT ... LABEL... menu... lines. I've similar lines in isolinux/txt.cfg. Is this the file I should change?
[21:39] <teddie> tommylommykins, put usr13's commands into .bashrc
[21:39] <sskalnik> Kovica, you want to edit the isolinux.cfg file
[21:40]  * tommylommykins grumbles
[21:40] <tommylommykins> I did not get an answer
[21:40] <oneironaut> hi, can anybody help me with my fail2ban config?
[21:40] <tommylommykins> Is there one canonical way to export the path variable
[21:40] <tommylommykins> ?
[21:41] <Kovica> sskalnik: and add those lines?
[21:41] <BarkingFish> tommylommykins: follow what usr13 posted above, that will do it for you.
[21:42] <tommylommykins> Thanks :)
[21:42] <sskalnik> Kovica, yes, except you may want to change the name of the preseed file to something else. Also, you may want to alter the other settings passed to the kernel if you want another keyboard layout, for example
[21:42] <BarkingFish> any changes you make to the path are usually permanent anyhow
[21:42] <oneironaut> I've added this http://pastebin.com/UKLj6rSg to my jail.local and created this (http://pastebin.com/qTdgkqhL) get-http-dos.conf in /etc/fail2ban/filter.d/ but my get-http-dos is not working
[21:43] <oneironaut> can anyone help me pleeeese?  ;)
[21:43] <sskalnik> Kovica, my example uses standard US keyboard and so on
[21:43] <usr13> tommylommykins: You can add a stansa to .profile
[21:43] <kierkkadon> How do I ssh tunnel in ubuntu?
[21:43] <gskellig> not sure where to ask this, I'm trying to ssh to an ubuntu server but the public wifi I'm on is blocking it
[21:43] <Kovica> sskalnik, yes I understand that, I just find isolinux.cfg a bit strange, but you are the expert :)
[21:43] <gskellig> kierkkadon: "ssh <ip address>"
[21:43] <gskellig> or "ssh user@domain/ip.com"
[21:44] <Benkinooby> hi, why do i need sodu rights for iwlist [interface] scanning? what harm can be done with allwoing ot for normal users?
[21:44] <Kovica> sskalnik, since my isolinux.cfg looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/753009/
[21:44] <sskalnik> Kovica, I'm kind of a noob, but thanks!
[21:45] <jrib> !away > sysadamin|away
[21:45] <kierkkadon> How can I find out the IP address of a website?
[21:45] <Kovica> sskalnik, and txt.cfg looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/753013/
[21:46] <sskalnik> Kovica, yeah, that is what mine originally looked like
[21:46] <Gentoo64> kierkkadon: ping it
[21:46] <bekks> kierkkadon: Why do you need it? :)
[21:46] <jrib> kierkkadon: host
[21:46] <Kovica> sskalnik, so you are saying I should delete everything that is in isolinux.cfg and past your lines in?
[21:46] <honschu> Is this correct enlish?  "For XX=123 its function bla() needs correct count and type of arguments" oder do I have to write "types"?
[21:46] <kierkkadon> bekks, A site isn't working on my network; I know the site is fine because I can access it on cell phone 3g
[21:47] <jrib> !ot | honschu
[21:47] <Gentoo64> kierkkadon: theres lots of ways.. but if you ping the address itll show the ip
[21:47] <sskalnik> Kovica, this is what mine now looks like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/753017/
[21:48] <Kovica> sskalnik, aha...
[21:48] <zulunite>  /quit
[21:48] <sskalnik> Kovica: All you really need to change is the default, and then add a label with the same name. This will make "Your Custom Install Option" the default instead of "Install Ubuntu"
[21:49] <snikker> hi, i've installed grub2 (with oneiric) and now i'm unable to run windows recovery partition <F9> key at boot, can you help me?
[21:49] <Kovica> sskalnik, yes, I figured that part out. :
[21:49] <Kovica> sskalnik, yes, I figured that part out. :)
[21:49] <sskalnik> Kovica, of course. ;)
[21:49] <sskalnik> Kovica, you might look at the other preseed files in that preseed directory to see what they do
[21:50] <sskalnik> Kovica, But yeah, pasting in my lines over the defaults will get you what you want
[21:50] <Kovica> sskalnik, now for anouther problem... "kernel /install/vmlinuz".. there is no /install/vmlinux in my ISO
[21:50] <sskalnik> Kovica, Unless you want, say, a Slovak keyboard or something
[21:50] <SPELINAX> SPANISH
[21:50] <Kovica> sskalnik, but there is /casper/vmlinuz
[21:51] <usr13> !es | SPELINAX
[21:51] <sskalnik> Kovica, Sorry, I pasted that from a USB installer.
[21:52] <sskalnik> Kovica, some details may be different. I was using a USB installer for Server 10.04
[21:52] <Gentoo64> snikker: try pressing f9 instantly after pressing enter when choosing windows in grub
[21:52] <Kovica> sskalnik, ok.. :) I'll try to modified it.. I just need to do a POC and then I'll be ok..
[21:53] <Kovica> sskalnik, can yor bear with me for a coupl of minutes more?
[21:53] <truefx> how to change emblem size in ubuntu ?
[21:53] <truefx> they are gigantic in compact view
[21:54] <snikker> Gentoo64: in this way i've got only windows 7 menu entry... no recovery
[21:54] <Gentoo64> snikker: im not sure
[21:54] <skiski> okay so my friend pointed me to this chat thing ...what is it?
[21:54] <sskalnik> Kovica, Certainly
[21:54] <Gentoo64> snikker: sorry
[21:55] <sskalnik> skiski, It's your source for Ubuntu wisdom -w-
[21:55] <snikker> Gentoo64: i've got windwos 7 entry, and "windows memory diagnostic" (but doesn't work, it hang the pc)
[21:56] <Gentoo64> snikker: im really not sure about the recovery partition
[21:56] <Gentoo64> or ahetevr it is
[21:56] <skiski> this is actually my first week using this system * sskalnik*
[21:56] <snikker> Gentoo64: ok, thanks
[21:56] <Gentoo64> snikker: maybe people in ##windows might know more
[21:57] <Gentoo64> or maybe you need to add it to grub, but i dont know anything about it
[21:57] <snikker> Gentoo64: ok, thansk i'll ask there
[21:57] <skiski> *sskalnik* so whats so amazing about this system?
[21:59] <sskalnik> skiski, It's the first Linux/GNU distro to gain mainstream traction and be useable by normal folk.
[21:59] <sskalnik> skiski, IMHO and all that
[21:59] <Kovica> sskalnik, now I have an ISO changed like you said. I guess the ds.sh is the last thig that will get executed during installation, right?
[21:59] <kierkkadon> If I want to ssh tunnel, do I need a server that I can access, or can I use ssh to directly access websites?
[21:59] <Kovica> sskalnik, is it also possible to ask for some input from the user during installation?
[22:00] <jrib> kierkkadon: what do you want to accomplish?
[22:00] <sskalnik> Kovica, Yes. You can name it whatever you like, of course. "ds" originally stood for something, but I shortened it since the late-install command can only be so long
[22:00] <franksouza1831> Hello
[22:01] <skiski> ahh going from windows to this is confusing a bit
[22:01] <kierkkadon> jrib, A website doesn't work on the semi-public network I'm on. I suspect it's some kind of firewall; I would just like to privately access the website
[22:01] <sskalnik> Kovica, that may be difficult during the installation. afaik, you'd need to modify the debian installer to make it ask new questions.
[22:02] <jrib> kierkkadon: sure just ssh to a computer outside your network.  If you connect like this: ssh -D 1080 ssh.server.com, then you will have a socks proxy at port 1080 that you can point your firefox to
[22:02] <sskalnik> Kovica, a workaround would be to have the late-command script add a cron job or something to prompt the user at first login and continue setting things up.
[22:03] <Kovica> sskalnik, is changing debin installed hard?
[22:03] <Rask> Hey everyone... I've got a machine running Ubuntu Server, and I want to use its sound card to play audio, but I'm having some trouble getting ALSA to work.  `cat /proc/asound/cards` seems to suggest a driver is there, but `aplay -l` says no sound cards found.  Anyone have any ideas what I'm missing? :)
[22:03] <sskalnik> skiski, Yes it is very different. It's cool if you are the sort of person who likes to take apart things to figure out how they work. Otherwise it can be a bit hard to get used to, but it is worth it if you plan on doing any serious computer-y business.
[22:03] <Kovica> sskalnik, I didn't know you can add a cron job that would get executed only at first login.
[22:04] <sskalnik> Kovica, "or something" ;)
[22:04] <CharminTheMoose> How can I set up another X server on a local machine without it complaining about my current X session? Want to test a few window managers
[22:04] <sskalnik> Kovica, I've never taken that step, but I have heard of people doing it.
[22:05] <BluesKaj> BBL, stuff to do
[22:05] <Kovica> sskalnik, hmm.. the iso did boot, but I got busybox console, not the installation
[22:05] <jrib> CharminTheMoose: startx -- :1    (you probably want to read man page to see how you can pass custom xinitrc file location)
[22:06] <jrib> CharminTheMoose: you could also be interested in xnest
[22:06] <skiski> i still have windows on my laptop, im actually a client (on boyfriends desktop) trying to get me to switch
[22:06] <Rask> gack, nevermind.
[22:07] <Rask> thanks anyway
[22:07] <CharminTheMoose> jrib, ah yes, I see what you mean.
[22:07] <sskalnik> Kovica, for scripts at login, check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto
[22:07] <CharminTheMoose> Hmm yeah, I might give xnest a shot..
[22:07]  * CharminTheMoose gets a searchin'
[22:07] <sskalnik> Kovica, what do you see on the screen?
[22:07] <RidDrib> how can create a daemon linux?
[22:08] <fekfhwegh> hi, what's up with opera/flash? I want to install opera and I need to uninstall flash according to software center...
[22:08] <Kovica> sskalnik, a bunch of boot messages, then "Busybox v1.18.4 (Ubutn u1:1.18.4-2ubuntu2) built-in shell (ash)"
[22:08] <sskalnik> Kovica, you may need to alter some of the isolinux.cfg file
[22:09] <Kovica> sskalnik, "Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands"
[22:09] <celord> hello all I'am having problems installing the nvidia drivers on my ubuntu 11.10 with a Quadro 1000M could this affect ubuntu also ? https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39330
[22:09] <sskalnik> Kovica, what I pasted is from a 10.04 USB installer, so you may need to use different parameters (check the other preseeds that came with the CD)
[22:10] <sskalnik> brb
[22:12] <Timewarper> HEY
[22:12] <Timewarper> How can i install virtualbox (the closed source version) in ubuntu?
[22:13] <ralpieboy> whats a good channel for hippie stuff?
[22:13] <trism> Timewarper: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[22:15] <OneByte>  OneByte
[22:16] <hasufell> any1 tried latest gtk-gui for virtualbox?
[22:16] <fekfhwegh> Timewarper: just add the virtualbox repository, instructions are on their website, trism has linked it
[22:17] <Timewarper> fekfhwegh, if i just get the ubuntu 10.10 deb
[22:17] <Timewarper> wont that be enough?
[22:17] <Gentoo64> Timewarper: ubuntu has vbox in the repos
[22:17] <fekfhwegh> It will if you are using 10.10
[22:17] <Timewarper> Gentoo64, that is the opensource version
[22:18] <Gentoo64> Timewarper: i use both the open and closed source on different comps, theyre the same to me :s
[22:18] <fekfhwegh> Does anyone know why the Opera package causes flash to uninstall
[22:18] <Gentoo64> i think the open source you have to install extensions manually
[22:18] <yeats> Timewarper: it's easier to just add the repo so you get updates (IMHO)
[22:19] <fekfhwegh> I agree with yeats
[22:19] <Xelmep> i need help about Counter strike 1.2 server on Ubuntu 10.04 server Please ???
[22:19] <skiski> is there any easy way to find specific topics in channel list?
[22:19] <hasufell> Gentoo64: u are not even in the #gentoo channel^^
[22:19] <Timewarper> yeats, does the repo offer the closed source version?
[22:19] <Timewarper> if i add it
[22:19] <Gentoo64> hasufell: ?
[22:19] <Gentoo64> i know :)
[22:19] <yeats> Timewarper: yes
[22:19] <Timewarper> yeats, K THX BYE!
[22:20] <Xelmep>       kkjkljklkj    a
[22:20] <yeats> !alis | skiski
[22:20] <Kovica> sskalnik, what šprogram did you use to put those seed files, isolinux.cfg, .. into the image?
[22:20] <Kovica> sskalnik, I'm using isomaster.. Could that be the problem
[22:21] <hasufell> Gentoo64: shame on ya! are you Ole?
[22:21] <Gentoo64> hasufell: what do you mean?
[22:21] <hasufell> nevermind^^
[22:21] <Gentoo64> whats 0le?
[22:21] <skiski> thanks , but where do i find alis?
[22:21] <thomasg> hi. how can I kill kdm/gdm on an upstart based ubuntu system?
[22:22] <thomasg> or better: kill X completely
[22:22] <hasufell> thomasg: stop the service
[22:22] <hasufell> "killall X"
[22:22] <XelmepAWAY> i need help about Counter strike 1.2 server on Ubuntu 10.04 server Please ???
[22:22] <yeats> thomasg: 'sudo service kdm restart' (for example)
[22:22] <thomasg> doess killall X work? usually kdm keeps the display alive
[22:22] <hasufell> /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[22:22] <thomasg> yeats: service kdm stop should kill it, right?
[22:22] <yeats> thomasg: yes
[22:22] <thomasg> ok, thanks
[22:23] <yeats> thomasg: sorry - wasn't reading closely - 'kill' not 'restart'
[22:24] <XelmepAWAY> i need help about Counter strike 1.2 server on Ubuntu 10.04 server Please ???
[22:25] <gskellig> anybody how to ssh when public wifi has disabled it?
[22:25] <yeats> Xelmep: that's not really an #ubuntu issue (even if the platform is Ubuntu server)
[22:25] <steve84> hi i am having a problem with my update manager
[22:25] <Xelmep> ok yeats: then can you help me to install any VPN server ?
[22:26] <yeats> Xelmep: just ask your question to the full channel - someone may be able to help
[22:26] <Xelmep> yeats: i`m new in ubuntu server and not understand very much
[22:26] <Xelmep> i need any tutorial about installing best VPN server
[22:27] <yeats> !vpn | Xelmep
[22:27] <Xelmep> !vpn
[22:28] <Advocated> hi there, using wine ive installed dreamweaver which works, but when i try and open files in /var/www it says path not found.Any idea how I can allow the path of /var/www?
[22:28] <Xelmep> !vpn | Xelmep
[22:28] <steve84> hi can any1 help me with an issue that i am having with update manager???
[22:28] <yeats> !details | steve84
[22:29] <Nightwalkerkg> Hi,where can i find and download comics for Comix?
[22:30] <hasufell> Advocated: "not found" does mean its not there i think
[22:30]  * skiski is away: ill be back real soon
[22:31] <steve84> ubottu: im running ubuntu 11.10 onmy lg laptop and when i try to run update manager it just loops i click "install updates" it waits and then it stops but deosnt update anything and i have to click "install updates again" but doesnt work
[22:31] <squaregoldfish> Trying to upgrade from natty to oneiric via Update Manager. It's got stuck at setting up friendly-recovery. What should I do?
[22:32] <mtkoan> can someone please tell me why fonts on ubuntu (UI *and* in browser) look so much better then other distros?
[22:32] <mtkoan> its driving me crazy,I must know your secret
[22:33] <Advocated> hasufell, ive had this problem years ago and cant remember how i fixed it
[22:33] <sparkss> Hi guys, is there a system information live monitor like what was prebuilt in all ubuntu's prior to 11.10?
[22:33] <sparkss> where it shows ur live ram usage, your live bandwidth
[22:33] <sparkss> your disk usage etc
[22:34] <yeats> sparkss: you could add it to the gnome panel, yes
[22:34] <mtkoan> htop
[22:34] <mtkoan> come on, someone must know the secrets of font rednering
[22:34] <sparkss> it was like system information gui
[22:34] <yeats> !fonts | mtkoan
[22:34] <sparkss> yeats
[22:34] <hasufell> Advocated: try "sudo mkdir /var/www && sudo chmod 777 /var/www"
[22:34] <mtkoan> hmm I'll look into it
[22:34] <Advocated> hasufell, fixxed, i did winecfg  added a drive (f) and set that to /var/www job done :)
[22:34] <hasufell> ah
[22:34] <Advocated> hasufell, thanks for the help though
[22:35] <sparkss> im not sure we are talking about the same tool
[22:35] <yeats> sparkss: in pre 11.10, you could right click on the panel and add a system monitor applet - is that what you mean?
[22:36] <sparkss> yeats, no sorry. it was like right click and system information.. the first link would have your system info.. the second link would be bandwidth /cpus /swap /ram
[22:36] <sparkss> etc
[22:36] <sparkss> like a live gui
[22:36] <yeats> !info gnome-system-monitor
[22:36] <sparkss> ahhhh
[22:36] <sparkss> yea I think thats it
[22:36] <sparkss> kinda like task manager in windows
[22:36] <yeats> that's still in 11.10
[22:37] <sparkss> where can I find it?
[22:37] <elmeromerodetodo> hello
[22:37] <yeats> search "system monitor" in the unity bar
[22:37] <elmeromerodetodo> everyone
[22:37] <vkandy> guys can you recommend a tool to create user manuals etc.?
[22:38] <sparkss> hmm
[22:38] <sparkss> may I add I just installed this last night
[22:38] <sparkss> lol
[22:38] <sparkss> well
[22:38] <nojeb0012> hey mates
[22:38] <sparkss> upgraded from 11.04
[22:38] <FloodBot1> sparkss: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:38] <elmeromerodetodo> yeats: a wiki?
[22:38] <sburwood1> tell me why, while update-manager seems to update the lists that it tells me that the last update was 4 days ago
[22:38] <nojeb0012> I need some help with getting my AO531h WiFi running on 11.19
[22:38] <DartmanX> if I have an intel core2 laptop, is the amd64 iso the correct image to install from?
[22:38] <nojeb0012> 11.10*
[22:38] <DartmanX> (core2 is 64bit compatible)
[22:39] <nojeb0012> Anyone who can help?
[22:39] <squaregoldfish> Trying to upgrade from natty to oneiric via Update Manager. It's got stuck at setting up friendly-recovery. What should I do?
[22:39] <sburwood1> I wish Iknew
[22:39] <DartmanX> n/m, I found the answer
[22:40] <yeats> squaregoldfish: check /var/log/syslog or /var/log/dpkg for errors?
[22:40] <nojeb0012> I need some help with getting my AO531h WiFi running on 11.10, anyone who can assist?
[22:42] <causative> man thunderbird is NOT GOOD about correctly labeling its updates as "security updates"
[22:42] <Benkinooby> hi, why do i need sodu rights for iwlist [interface] scanning? what harm can be done with allwoing it for normal users?
[22:42] <squaregoldfish> yeats: Nothing in syslog. Last entry in dpkg.log is "half-configure friendly-recovery 0.2.18" - timed 30 minutes ago.
[22:42] <causative> it has like 80 updates all labeled essential security updates, just today
[22:42] <causative> that's not good
[22:42] <causative> they don't look like security updates
[22:42] <causative> they are mislabeled
[22:43] <yeats> squaregoldfish: have you backed up your data?
[22:43] <nojeb0012> I need some help with getting my AO531h WiFi running on 11.10, anyone who can assist? Used to work great on 11.04.
[22:43] <squaregoldfish> yeats: Of course ;)
[22:43] <sparkss> I cant seem to figure this out
[22:44] <sskalnik> Kovica, sorry I was away
[22:44] <nojeb0012> I need some help with getting my AO531h WiFi running on 11.10, anyone who can assist? Used to work great on 11.04.
[22:45] <sskalnik> I recommend using a USB drive over the ISO, as it is faster to install and easier to mess with.
[22:45] <yeats> squaregoldfish: thought so ;-)... in that case, you could try to exit the upgrade process and begin the (possibly messy) process of manually running 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[22:46] <sskalnik> Kovica, That said, what you can do is mount the original ISO, copy everything to a directory, add files to the directory, and then re-make an ISO from the directory.
[22:46] <squaregoldfish> yeats: OK, I'll give it a go. If that fails, I'll be back....
[22:46] <yeats> squaregoldfish: you might have to manually remove the apt and dpkg lock files
[22:46] <squaregoldfish> yeats: Thanks
[22:46] <sparkss> yeats, I cannot seem to find it?
[22:46] <yeats> squaregoldfish: good luck
[22:46] <nojeb0012> I need some help with getting my AO531h WiFi running on 11.10, anyone who can assist? Used to work great on 11.04.
[22:46] <yeats> sparkss: type 'gnome-system-monitor' at the terminal?
[22:46]  * yeats goes away
[22:47] <sparkss> im a dummy
[22:47] <sparkss> :x
[22:47] <sskalnik> Kovica, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[22:48] <nojeb0012> I need some help with getting my AO531h WiFi running on 11.10, anyone who can assist? Used to work great on 11.04.
[22:49] <madm1ke_> is there a recommended way of autoremoving old kernel packages?
[22:49] <freak0adam> hey. i have a problem. i installed ubuntu on my hard drive instead of windows and when it restarted after instalation it doesnt turn on. i mean i have only that black screen with blinking _ . does anyone know what could be wrong?
[22:50] <aeon-ltd> madm1ke_: i doubt it, they are there in case the newest one fails; most people just use apt or syynaptics to remove them
[22:50] <nojeb0012> I need some help with getting my AO531h WiFi running on 11.10, anyone who can assist? Used to work great on 11.04.
[22:51] <Benkinooby> nojeb0012, did you try jockey?
[22:51] <JSysTeM> hello all
[22:51] <nojeb0012> benkinooby: What is Jockey? I'm new to Ubuntu, and I assume I know ... nothing?
[22:52] <madm1ke_> aeon-ltd: well there is no reason to stack 5 to 10 kernels. but okay i'll see if i can create something myself
[22:52] <freak0adam> hey. i have a problem. i installed ubuntu on my hard drive instead of windows and when it restarted after instalation it doesnt turn on. i mean i have only that black screen with blinking _ . does anyone know what could be wrong?
[22:52] <aeon-ltd> nojeb0012: tried this yet https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne/531h
[22:52] <madm1ke_> freak0adam: you said that 3min ago
[22:52] <JSysTeM> i have 10.10 cd gnome ubuntu but im trying to remove all graphical software like netinstall just need base system how to do that via console and thanks
[22:53] <nojeb0012> aeon-ltd: There is nothing to try?
[22:53] <aeon-ltd> nojeb0012: scroll down
[22:53] <Benkinooby> nojeb0012, jockey is a tool that will search closed-source drivers for you. closed-source is not deliverd with ubuntu for certain reasons, but most closed-source drivers do better work than the open source one... try to find a program/menu entry that got to do with drivers, or invoke "jockey-gtk" from a command line... maybe you have to use sudo
[22:54] <nojeb0012> aeon-ltd: I tried to "borrow" information from other, similar netbook models
[22:54] <nojeb0012> aeon-ltd: Didn't work :(
[22:55] <nojeb0012> benkinooby: I'll try it now, let me have a second.
[22:56] <nojeb0012> benkinooby: No luck, it searches, but it can't find.
[22:56] <mkanyicy> nojeb0012, what are you trying to do?
[22:56] <uabn93> hi, im stuck in grub. can anyone help?
[22:57] <madm1ke_> JSysTeM: one possibility is "sudo aptitude" - get familiar with this interface and then hit "-" (remove) or "_" (purge) on categories like gnome etc..
[22:57] <mkanyicy> !grub | uabn93
[22:57] <nojeb0012> I'm trying to find some way to connect to my wifi, but my Wireless NIC isn't visible with 11.10
[22:57] <madm1ke_> nojeb0012: what device? (lspci)
[22:58] <nojeb0012> Should I copy it here?
[22:58] <uabn93> i deleted old kernels and the new ones dont show up in grub. what can i do? please help
[22:58] <mkanyicy> nojeb0012, pastebin
[22:58] <madm1ke_> only the line that contains your wifi device
[22:59] <mkanyicy> nojeb0012, lspci|pastebinit
[22:59] <madm1ke_> uabn93: edit the entry and change the kernel name/version . then fix grub
[22:59] <zippzack24> #videolan
[22:59] <nojeb0012> mkanyicy: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x / AR542x Wireless Network Adapter
[23:00] <uabn93> how do you update grub from within grub??
[23:00] <uabn93> does anyone know?
[23:00] <thingfish> uabn93: what do you mean?
[23:00] <nojeb0012> mkanyicy: Which worked just fine and dandy in 11.04
[23:00] <madm1ke_> uabn93: you don't. just edit the line and boot with an existing kernel. then fix grub
[23:00] <Phoenix87> uabn93, use a live version of something
[23:00] <Phoenix87> mount your ubuntu partition somewhere
[23:00] <Phoenix87> and execute update-grup
[23:01] <Phoenix87> *update-grub
[23:02] <uabn93> madm1ke_: i deleted an old kernel, forgot to update the list, rebooted, and now only the old kernel versions show up in grub.
[23:02] <madm1ke_> nojeb0012: okay, do sudo modprobe -r ath5k and then sudo modprobe ath5k - then type "dmesg" to see if the kernel complains about something when loading the wifi driver
[23:02] <uabn93> the newest kernels arent on the list. i never deleted tose
[23:02] <mkanyicy> uabn93, then your problem is not as hard as i thought
[23:02] <Benkinooby> nojeb0012, so jockey didn't find anything?
[23:02] <nojeb0012> benkinooby: No luck, it searches, but it can't find anything.
[23:03] <madm1ke_> uabn93: then you can just edit the grub entry (i think by hitting "e" - but there is some info in grub to how to get in edit mode) and change the version number
[23:03] <uabn93> mkanyicy: how do i fix it?
[23:03] <mkanyicy> uabn93, try to select recovery mode first and see if you can find a working one
[23:03] <Benkinooby> nojeb0012, oh, i see ther are allready some ppl helping you... good luck
[23:03] <mkanyicy> uabn93, if you can't then try to edit one of the menu's to point to the latest kernel
[23:03] <madm1ke_> uabn93: grub even has tab-completion in shell mode - just play a little with it :)
[23:04] <nojeb0012> mkanyicy: FATAL, no file or directory.
[23:04] <nojeb0012> benkinooby: Thanks, mate. And thanks for the effort.
[23:05] <madm1ke_> nojeb0012: a little more. can you pastebin the last 20 lines of dmesg?
[23:05] <mkanyicy> uabn93, u there?
[23:05] <uabn93> okay, im in edit mode. i dont know what to do next
[23:06] <madm1ke_> uabn93: spot the line that includes your kernel version number
[23:06] <uabn93> how do i point it to the newest kernel
[23:06] <nojeb0012> mkanyicy: There isn't even 20 lines O.o
[23:06] <madm1ke_> nojeb0012: the output from dmesg has definitely more than 1 line
[23:06] <madm1ke_> uabn93: use the cursor keys to go to the kernel/linux line
[23:07] <uabn93> on the grub list, version 38-10 shows up. none of the newer ones (38-11 or 38-12) show up
[23:07] <nojeb0012> mkanyicy: FATAL: Could not load mesg/lib/modules/3.0.0-13-generic/modules.dep: No such file or directory
[23:07] <mkanyicy> nojeb0012, im not sure of that error
[23:07] <nojeb0012> madm1ke_: FATAL: Could not load mesg/lib/modules/3.0.0-13-generic/modules.dep: No such file or directory
[23:07] <mkanyicy> nojeb0012, i dont have a clue
[23:08] <madm1ke_> nojeb0012: type "sudo depmod -a" have you reboot since your last kernel upgrade?
[23:08] <mkanyicy> uabn93, replace something like: /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-13-generic with just /vmlinuz
[23:08] <nojeb0012> This is driving me crazy, I need this netbook for school >.<
[23:08] <JSysTeM> when i burn the min.iso into dvd it doesnt run is there a way to support that
[23:08] <mkanyicy> uabn93, and something like /boot/initrd.img-3.0.0-13-generic with /initrd.img
[23:09] <nojeb0012> madm1ke_: I did.
[23:09] <zacarias> any idea of a program tha can open Omnioutliner's oo3 format?
[23:09] <mkanyicy> uabn93, those are symlinks to your latest kernel
[23:09] <nojeb0012> hangs at depmod -a
[23:09] <madm1ke_> hangs or takes some seconds?
[23:09] <mkanyicy> uabn93,  then try to boot
[23:09] <nojeb0012> It just cleared.
[23:10] <madm1ke_> try "modprobe ath5k" again
[23:10] <nojeb0012> that was a bit more. So how do I pastebin it?
[23:10] <madm1ke_> paste.ubuntu.com
[23:11] <mkanyicy> JSysTeM, what is min.iso?
[23:11] <nojeb0012> madm1ke_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/753102/
[23:12] <JSysTeM> mkanyicy: minimal install for ubuntu
[23:12] <madm1ke_> "sudo modprobe ath5k" you need to be root to insert kernel modules. sorry about that :)
[23:12] <mkanyicy> nojeb0012, sudo
[23:12] <tobe> hi guys. pleas help me. My computer's keyboard and mouse freeze frequently. the keyboard caps lock and scroll lock lights blink but i cannot do anything. (unplug doesnt work) i'm sifting through the forums right now, but if someone could help me i would appreciate it!!!
[23:13] <Emiru> is Vim easy to use or is a full tutorial needed ?
[23:13] <nojeb0012> madm1ke_: My bad. And then? No errors occur.
[23:13] <madm1ke_> tobe: that is called a kernel panic :)
[23:13] <mcphail> Emiru: the latter
[23:13] <Emiru> mcphail: Thats what I thought, thanks ! :)
[23:13] <aeon-ltd> Emiru: vim is easy to use, but there are so many features to learn them all would need several tuts
[23:13] <tobe> madm1ke_:  what do i do??? panic too?
[23:13] <madm1ke_> nojeb0012: "dmesg" and read/paste the last 10 lines concerning the ath5k module
[23:14] <mcphail> Emiru: worth it though. The best editor imho
[23:14] <Kovica> sskalnik, the problem was with the entry in isolinux.cfg
[23:14] <BarkingFish> tobe: basically, your kernel is crashing - sometimes you see a Backtrace pop up on your screen, other times, your desktop freezes and your keyboard lights flash on and off.
[23:14] <Emiru> Ill stick to gedit for now, im reading a full tutorial on linux
[23:14] <madm1ke_> tobe: are you up to date with your system?
[23:14] <Emiru> im not at the Vim part yet but its ok
[23:15] <tobe> madm1ke_: i always update when it says too
[23:15] <aeon-ltd> heh full tutorial on linux
[23:15] <Kovica> sskalnik, I've added that entry to txt.cfg an now I've installed ubutnu in virtualbox.. Let me now see if the ds.sh got executed
[23:15] <tobe> BarkingFish: what can i do?
[23:15] <aeon-ltd> it will never end
[23:15] <BarkingFish> the only way to get out of that situation, tobe, is to force shutdown by holding the power switch on the front of your PC for about 5 seconds or so
[23:15] <mkanyicy> uabn93, how did it go?
[23:15] <RandomTomte> Hello, i need help with my xubuntu. Where do i turn off "Mirror displays"?
[23:15] <BarkingFish> tobe: it's possibly one of the modules in your kernel which could be faulty.  Could you go into a terminal, and install pastebinit please?
[23:15] <Emiru> aeon-ltd: well, how to use it properly not just say hey im on linux look at me :P
[23:16] <tobe> BarkingFish: i know that much, but what about fixing it? new install????
[23:16] <madm1ke_> RandomTomte: xfce settings should include a "display" or "screen" section
[23:16] <BarkingFish> tobe: not necessarily
[23:16] <tobe> BarkingFish:  pastebinit is a program?
[23:16] <BarkingFish> yes
[23:16] <aeon-ltd> no
[23:16] <uabn93> mkanyicy: i did what u said. it told me 'ctrl-x to boot' and nothing...
[23:16] <aeon-ltd> kinda
[23:16] <nojeb0012> madm1ke_: so ; "sudo modprobe ath5k -dmesg" ??
[23:16] <RandomTomte> madm1ke, where do i find that?
[23:16] <aeon-ltd> tobe: yoou could just use the site
[23:16] <BarkingFish> it allows you to paste to paste.ubuntu.com from a terminal, tobe
[23:17] <BarkingFish> so you could call up a command, and have the output sent straight to the pastebin
[23:17] <madm1ke_> nojeb0012: "sudo dmesg" that is a single command which will show the last kernel messages
[23:17] <tobe> BarkingFish: ok now what
[23:17] <mkanyicy> uabn93, then an alternative method that is more likely to work is to use the live cd
[23:17] <mkanyicy> uabn93, and then recover grub from it
[23:18] <BarkingFish> right, can you do the command:  sudo lsmod | pastebinit  please, tobe - and when you get the url back, post it here please :)
[23:18] <uabn93> like a sudo update grub from the command line?
[23:18] <sskalnik> Kovica, how goes it?
[23:18] <Kovica> sskalnik, it did not get executed... :(((
[23:18] <mkanyicy> uabn93, grub-install
[23:18] <RandomTomte> WHERE DO I FIND Xcfe settings for my display?!
[23:19] <Kovica> sskalnik, d-i preseed/late_command string \
[23:19] <Kovica> cp /cdrom/ds.sh /; \
[23:19] <Kovica> chmod +x ./ds.sh; \
[23:19] <Kovica> ./ds.sh
[23:19] <aeon-ltd> RandomTomte: a menu....
[23:19] <nojeb0012> madm1ke_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/753111/
[23:19] <uabn93> mkanyicy: thanks for everything. you were really helpful
[23:19] <nojeb0012> madm1ke_: Sorry about my beginner-ness to Ubuntu >.<
[23:19] <RandomTomte> aeon-ltd, cool a meny. thanks for the help! -.-
[23:19] <tobe> BarkingFish: http://pastebin.com/F2vzSv4k
[23:19] <BarkingFish> thanks tobe :)
[23:19] <aeon-ltd> RandomTomte: in your panel. everything goes from there
[23:19] <BarkingFish> give me a moment please
[23:19] <mkanyicy> uabn93, no prob, good luck
[23:20] <zacarias> any idea of a program that can open 003 files (Omnioutliner files)
[23:20] <RandomTomte> aeon-ltd,  i dont find that
[23:20] <madm1ke_> nojeb0012: okay there was no immediate error .. now do "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up"
[23:20] <mkanyicy> zacarias, what is omni-outliner?
[23:21] <aeon-ltd> RandomTomte: show me a screenshot of you panels
[23:21] <aeon-ltd> *your
[23:21] <BarkingFish> tobe - How long has this been going on? And more to the point, did you add any new hardware before this started happening?
[23:21] <sskalnik> Kovica, what does the log say about the script?
[23:21] <nojeb0012> madm1ke_: And then? No errors.
[23:21] <zacarias> mkanyici: it'is a MacOS outliner
[23:21] <Kovica> sskalnik, where is the log
[23:21] <madm1ke_> tobe: is your system up to date?
[23:21] <madm1ke_> nojeb0012: is it working already? :)
[23:22] <sskalnik> Kovica, go to another terminal (Alt + F2) and check /var/log/syslog
[23:22] <squaregoldfish> Upgrading from natty to oneiric. Any package that does something in /boot (linux-image, memtest, grub etc.) simply hangs. All other packages install fine. Any ideas?
[23:22] <nojeb0012> madm1ke_: Noo. I can press Enable Wireless, but nothing actually happens :(
[23:22] <hiho77> Hey guys! I read a bit about the ubuntu service/daemon called zeitgeist. It is installed to gather information and to make dayly work more easy/comfortable... On the other hand i dont need an OS that gathers infor of my userbehavior. Does s.o. know how deeply it gathers info an if anyone does spy my computer?
[23:22] <tobe> BarkingFish: its been going on for about a week
[23:22] <madm1ke_> nojeb0012: okay, paste "sudo dmesg"
[23:22] <tobe> no
[23:23] <tobe> maybe 2 or 3 days
[23:23] <JSysTeM> when i burn the min.iso into dvd it doesnt run is there a way to support that,
[23:23] <BarkingFish> tobe: ok, and did you add anything new recently?
[23:23] <Kovica> sskalnik, sorry, I already restarted
[23:23] <tobe> BarkingFish: the last thing i did what a fresh install and then install the nvidia drivers (possible cause) but  i dont know what that could have done.
[23:24] <nojeb0012> madm1ke_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/753117/
[23:24] <sskalnik> Kovica, I must head out for the day, but feel free to message me on ubuntuforums.com; I am user djsephiroth
[23:24] <mkanyicy> hiho77, rather worry about the spy than about zeitgeist
[23:24] <Kovica> sskalnik, thanks.. have a good day..
[23:24] <tobe> BarkingFish: nothing that didnt work in 11.10 (i downgraded since 11.10 was pretty buggy) usb webcam, wine ,
[23:24] <sskalnik> Kovica, you are most welcome; hope it works for you soon
[23:24] <BarkingFish> tobe: the nvidia drivers can sometimes be a little... odd, shall we say.  What nvidia card do you have?
[23:25] <mkanyicy> JSysTeM, have you verified your DVD if its burned correctly?
[23:25] <matthieu637> vous avez un logiciel simple pour ajouter du texte sur une vidéo ( pour un tuto ) ?
[23:25] <madm1ke_> nojeb0012: try to scan for wireless networks "sudo iw dev wlan0 scan"
[23:25] <JSysTeM> mkanyicy: when i put it over windows it runs normaly but seems the bootsec is currupted somehow
[23:25] <BarkingFish> !fr | matthieu637
[23:25] <matthieu637> wrong chan sry
[23:25] <BarkingFish> np :)
[23:26] <tobe> i have a geforce 8400, but this worked in 10.10 (then in 11.10) now it wont work when i went back to 10.04. maybe its because i didnt install the right one???
[23:26] <tobe> driver???
[23:26] <sharpK> does anyone here have experience sharing a wireless printer through samba (with ubuntu as a server) to windows computers on the network?
[23:26] <madm1ke_> tobe: how did you install the driver?
[23:26] <tobe> BarkingFish: i have a geforce 8400, but this worked in 10.10 (then in 11.10) now it wont work when i went back to 10.04. maybe its because i didnt install the right one???
[23:26] <nojeb0012> madm1ke_: iw not found?
[23:26] <tobe> madm1ke_: through software center
[23:26] <squaregoldfish> yeats: Ping (more in hope than expectation)
[23:26] <BarkingFish> it's possible, tobe - if you have everything backed up, and you know it worked in 10.10 (Lucid LTS), maybe try to go back to 10.10?
[23:27] <hiho77> mkanyicy: how do you mean? As i read about this service, zeitgeist IS the spy ^^
[23:27] <nojeb0012> madm1ke_: iw command** not found?
[23:27] <madm1ke_> nojeb0012: then try "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan" .. but you should install the package "iw"
[23:27] <BarkingFish> i got rid of my nvidia card sometime ago, I had lots of driver issues, so I swapped out to a PCIE ATI Radeon SE
[23:27] <madm1ke_> nojeb0012: relax...
[23:28] <tobe> BarkingFish:  i dont have that cd anymore and the site shows 10.04 lts and 11.10 only
[23:28] <BarkingFish> i beg your pardon, 10.04 was the LTS version. Sorry about that.
[23:28] <nojeb0012> madm1ke_: wlan0     Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down
[23:29] <BarkingFish> I'm kind of lost as to what could be doing this then, let me look at that paste again
[23:29] <madm1ke_> nojeb0012: "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up ; sudo iwlist wlan0 scan"
[23:29] <Scunizi> Something will not allow Synaptic Package manager to run.. I get the authentication window, plug in my password and then nothing... any ideas?
[23:29] <BarkingFish> the lsmod actually shows that nothing is using your nvidia module, tobe...
[23:29] <nojeb0012> madm1ke_: SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not possible due to RF-kill
[23:29] <nojeb0012> wlan0     Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down
[23:29] <mkanyicy> hiho77, if you are paranoid, then remove it
[23:29] <madm1ke_> aha
[23:30] <gajbooks> What would happen if I dd'd a Ubuntu iso to a HD?
[23:30] <madm1ke_> nojeb0012: do you have  hardware switch for your wireless card?
[23:30] <BarkingFish> other things are reliant on it though....
[23:30] <Scunizi> I can run Synaptic from a terminal.. just not from the launcher
[23:30] <tobe> BarkingFish: ... then idont know what is going on...  so maybe i should do another fresh install???
[23:30] <BarkingFish> I'm lost on this one I'm afraid, tobe, maybe someone here has got a better answer for you
[23:30] <nojeb0012> madm1ke_: Yes, and I've tried switching it on and off, same result - no wifi
[23:30] <madm1ke_> nojeb0012: and install the package "rfkill" and then post the output of "rfkill list"
[23:31] <BarkingFish> I wouldn't reinstall yet, someone here may have the skill to fix this, but it's not me. Sorry :(
[23:31] <madm1ke_> nojeb0012: did you try turning it off and on again just now, too?
[23:31] <tobe> BarkingFish: thanks for taking the time, ill keep searching and if all else fails ill do a fresh install
[23:32] <nojeb0012> madm1ke_: Yes, and it doesn't work :(
[23:32] <madm1ke_> nojeb0012: then post the "rfkill list" output
[23:32] <matthieu637> i'm looking for a software to put some text on my video ( it's a tutorial ), do u have any idea?
[23:32] <gajbooks> Is is possible to dd a Ubuntu iso to an HD and install it from there?
[23:32] <slipttees> hi guys, please help my SD multicard won't work
[23:32] <slipttees> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0bda:0158 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. USB 2.0 multicard reader
[23:32] <BarkingFish> tobe, you're welcome. I'm just sorry I couldn't sort out a fix for you, but I've not had an nvidia card for sometime.
[23:32] <nojeb0012> madm1ke_: 0: acer-wireless: Wireless LAN
[23:32] <nojeb0012> 	Soft blocked: yes
[23:32] <nojeb0012> 	Hard blocked: no
[23:32] <nojeb0012> 1: phy0: Wireless LAN
[23:32] <nojeb0012> 	Soft blocked: no
[23:33] <nojeb0012> 	Hard blocked: yes
[23:33] <FloodBot1> nojeb0012: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:33] <madm1ke_> nojeb0012: please use the paste-service..
[23:33] <nojeb0012> Sorry o.o
[23:33] <slipttees> maybe somewhere can help me?
[23:33] <cedriczg> Hi there
[23:33] <hiho77> mkanyicy: thought about to remove it, but i als read that if i remove it from 11.10, i might have hard problems to find anything with standard "search". Do you know if i can remove it without having other problems?
[23:34] <slipttees> hi guys, please help my SD multicard won't work
[23:34] <nojeb0012> madm1ke_:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/753128/
[23:34] <madm1ke_> nojeb0012: "sudo rfkill unblock all" might help
[23:34] <slipttees> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0bda:0158 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. USB 2.0 multicard reader
[23:34] <mkanyicy> hiho77, in my opinion, you are giving yourself unnecessary headache
[23:34] <cedriczg> Any QUANTA user here that found Quanta is no more supported under ubuntu oneiric?
[23:34] <cedriczg> I would like to find a substitute but could not yet
[23:35] <cedriczg> bluefish has no intelligent files upload as Quanta has...
[23:35] <nojeb0012> madm1ke_:  No, that doesn't work either.
[23:35] <mkanyicy> cedriczg, there is no quanta user here
[23:36] <mkanyicy> cedriczg, as you can see
[23:36] <madm1ke_> nojeb0012: according to rfkill your phy0 (wireless device) is hard blocked
[23:36] <sikilpaake> how can i tell if a package is from a ppa i added or from the original repository?
[23:36] <slipttees> nothing?
[23:36] <madm1ke_> nojeb0012: that means a hardware switch is set to off - what netbook do you have?
[23:36] <steve84> hi i am having some issues with my webcam can someone help me out please
[23:37] <madm1ke_> sikilpaake: "apt-cache policy package-name" in terminal
[23:37] <mcphail> sikilpaake: apt-cache policy packagename
[23:37] <nojeb0012> madm1ke_:  There's no way to tell since the LEDs don't light up
[23:37] <slipttees> hi guys, please help my SD multicard won't work
[23:37] <slipttees> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0bda:0158 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. USB 2.0 multicard reader
[23:37] <cedriczg> mkanyicy, I see. Do you know under which channel should I look for?
[23:37] <mkanyicy> !patience|slipttees,
[23:37] <slipttees> plug SD noting happenin
[23:38] <mkanyicy> cedriczg, look no further
[23:38] <hiho77> mkanyicy: Ya, maybe. I was just surprised which and how much information that service gaters. So i got kind of worried... normally i´ve seen this kind of acquisitiveness only at google ^^
[23:38] <hugli> /join #irssi
[23:38] <nojeb0012> madm1ke_:  There's no way to tell since the LEDs don't light up
[23:39] <steve84> hi i am having some issues with my webcam can someone help me out please
[23:39] <Darkened> Back
[23:39] <hiho77> mkanyicy: but maybe im just too paranoid, yes.
[23:39] <madm1ke_> nojeb0012: my question was "what netbook do you have"
[23:39] <nojeb0012> madm1ke_: Acer Aspire One 531h ZG8
[23:39] <madm1ke_> nojeb0012: and i can read just fine
[23:39] <matthieu637> i'm looking for a software to put some text on my video ( it's a tutorial ), do u have any idea?
[23:39] <Scunizi> steve84: you have to be more specific.. have you loaded and tried "cheese" as a test?
[23:39] <madm1ke_> nojeb0012: does the output of "rfkill list" change when you hit the wireless switch?
[23:39] <mkanyicy> hiho77, if you are to paranoid, then clear the zeitgeist cache all the time
[23:40] <nojeb0012> madm1ke_: I just tried hitting the switch, wait a couple of seconds, then rfkill list - but nothing changes
[23:40] <steve84> Scunizi:  yes i tried using cheese but it doesnt show the webcam and yesterday it worked
[23:41] <mkanyicy> steve84, install cheese and then ALT+F2 and type cheese and then look at the camera and say cheese until a webcam app shows up
[23:41] <Scunizi> matthieu637: try openshot .. it's in the package manager.
[23:41] <JSysTeM> mkanyicy: when i put it over windows it runs normaly but seems the bootsec is currupted somehow any idea
[23:41] <steve84> Scunizi:  maybe it is having issues i did an update today
[23:41] <madm1ke_> nojeb0012: does "lsmod | grep acer-wmi" list anything?
[23:41] <mkanyicy> JSysTeM, no idea
[23:41] <Scunizi> steve84: we've had a couple updates in the last week or so.. after any of those did  you reboot?
[23:41] <nojeb0012> madm1ke_: Nope.
[23:42] <steve84> yes i reboot after every update
[23:42] <madm1ke_> nojeb0012: "sudo modprobe acer-wmi"
[23:42] <sikilpaake> mcphail: apt-cache policy packagename ? ALLRIGHT! thanks!
[23:42] <madm1ke_> nojeb0012: that is "Acer Laptop WMI Extras Driver" - maybe that will change something
[23:42] <sikilpaake> mcphail: thanks again :)
[23:43] <nojeb0012> madm1ke_: rfkill list, nothing changed after last command
[23:43] <steve84> Scunizi:  and skype doesnt even want to recognize my webcam
[23:44] <mcphail> sikilpaake: my pleasure
[23:44] <Scunizi> steve84: rebooting is only necessary if you get a new kernel.. check Http://ubuntuforums.org for your make and model of web cam.. sorry I'm no expert with then.
[23:44] <LivTyler> steve84: is it working with cheese?
[23:44] <steve84> Scunizi: no prob thanks for the help though
[23:44] <madm1ke_> nojeb0012: post the last lines of "sudo dmesg" again and try if "sudo rfkill unblock all" works
[23:45] <MonkeyDust> what does rfkill do?
[23:45] <sikilpaake> mcphail: i just installed this ppa, https://launchpad.net/~brightbox/+archive/ruby-ng how can i get ubuntu to download *this* ruby1.9.1 and not the one from its original repository?
[23:46] <madm1ke_> MonkeyDust: stops/starts all kind of radio interfaces
[23:46] <steve84> LivTyler: its not working with cheese or skype
[23:46] <LivTyler> MonkeyDust: it shuts down/starts all your Wifi cards
[23:46] <MonkeyDust> ok
[23:46] <nojeb0012> madm1ke_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/753145/
[23:46] <LivTyler> !webcam
[23:47] <mcphail> sikilpaake: "sudo aptitude install packagename=packageversion" - just be aware that ppa's can be dangerous
[23:47] <Scunizi> sikilpaake: have you refreshed the cache for the package manager?  sudo apt-get update && apt-cache search ruby-ng
[23:48] <LivTyler> steve84: is your cam on the Hardware Compatibility List ?
[23:48] <yeats> squaregoldfish: back
[23:48] <steve84> my webcam is built in to my LG R380 laptop
[23:48] <steve84> i dont know the model
[23:49] <Rxuser> damn!
[23:49] <madm1ke_> nojeb0012: well that sucks
[23:49] <mcphail> sikilpaake: the other trrick is "sudo aptitude install packagename/archivename"
[23:49] <nojeb0012> madm1ke_: Out of ideas? :/
[23:49] <mcphail> *trick
[23:50] <Rxuser> no config file to edit for unity?
[23:50] <nojeb0012> madm1ke_: I'll be rolling back to 11.04 instead, wait for better times. Maybe 12.04 makes it work again.
[23:50] <Gskellig> Is there any KDE software that WON'T work in gnome?
[23:50] <Rxuser> this left tray/launcher is disturbing
[23:51] <Rxuser> need to be at the bottom with smaller icons :P
[23:51] <Xelmep> i need help about connection to pptp server on ubuntu 10.04
[23:51] <nojeb0012> madm1ke_: Thanks a lot for your help, appreciate it.
[23:51] <Rxuser> or perhaps just have it removed and let tint2 get the job done
[23:52] <madm1ke_> nojeb0012: do you have dual boot on the machine?
[23:52] <madm1ke_> nojeb0012: aka is there still a windows present?
[23:52] <nojeb0012> madm1ke_: Yes, there is. Windows 7 Starter
[23:53] <TimStarling> does anyone triage ubuntu bugs anymore?
[23:53] <madm1ke_> nojeb0012: it might be worth a shot to boot windows, enable wifi (with the switch) and reboot to ubuntu
[23:53] <madm1ke_> nojeb0012: and while you reboot check if your bios has some wireless options
[23:53] <TimStarling> the last 3 bugs I reported, all I got was tumbleweeds
[23:54] <nojeb0012> madm1ke_: It's always on in Windows - and i'm about to run out of time. So, if not today, i'll be here some other day.
[23:54] <Xelmep> i need help about connection to pptp server on ubuntu 10.04. I cant connect
[23:54] <TimStarling> for one of them, I installed a debian chroot and filed a debian bug instead
[23:54] <TimStarling> it was fixed straight away
[23:55] <nojeb0012> Thanks mate
[23:55] <mcphail> TimStarling: there are far fewer developers than bug reports. Sometimes upstrream bugs are better reported upstream
[23:55] <TimStarling> upstream as in debian?
[23:55] <TimStarling> debian is cool but their bug tracker is kind of arcane
[23:55] <mcphail> TimStarling: if that is appropriate in the context then yes.
[23:56] <Xelmep> HELP About PPTP Server on Ubuntu !!!
[23:56] <TimStarling> I haven't bothered trying to report an actual upstream bug to ubuntu for a while
[23:56] <LivTyler> stevecam: are you steve84?
[23:56] <TimStarling> but I figured that maybe for packaging errors I would get some response
[23:56] <TimStarling> but it seems like even there, just tumbleweeds
[23:57] <TimStarling> some day I'm going to report a bug which is actually ubuntu's fault, not debian's or upstream's
[23:57] <TimStarling> is there some keyword I should use to get people to actually look at it?
[23:58] <LivTyler> Xelmep: try #ubuntu-server chan
[23:58] <Xelmep>  ok
[23:58] <Xelmep> i will try
[23:59] <TimStarling> see, I'm pretty sure that nobody even reads my bugs
[23:59] <mcphail> TimStarling: read some online tutorials about preparing a good bug report, phrase it well, add appropriate documentation and direct it to the correct person. There is an art to it. Badly formed or misdirected bug reports are a waste of everyone's time.
[23:59] <TimStarling> because if someone went to the trouble of working out whether a bug is ubuntu's fault or debian's fault, they would probably say so in a comment
[23:59] <LivTyler> !bug
[23:59] <TimStarling> sure, but there's no point in writing a good bug report if nobody is going to read it
[23:59] <jeff3> Hello?
[23:59] <TimStarling> I can just email the maintainer directly I guess