with the <h1> and concluding that the extra stuff in the <title> is fluff [09:53] <Peng> Nah, they probably just outsource titles to MTurk. === wgrant changed the topic of #launchpad to: Translations offline 10:00-12:00UTC | https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: benji | Launchpad is an open source project: https://dev.launchpad.net/ | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | User Guide: https://help.launchpad.net/ | Support: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad === gmb changed the topic of #launchpad to: Translations offline 10:00-12:00UTC | https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: gmb | Launchpad is an open source project: https://dev.launchpad.net/ | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | User Guide: https://help.launchpad.net/ | Support: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad === wgrant changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: gmb | Launchpad is an open source project: https://dev.launchpad.net/ | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | User Guide: https://help.launchpad.net/ | Support: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad === matsubara-afk is now known as matsubara === mrevell_ is now known as mrevell [12:33] <ev> I'm having a bit of grep fail this morning. Where does the code for part of the workflow that locks down the branch for all commits but ones with testfix actually live? As far as I can tell, it's not in pqm. [12:35] <mcclurmc> i'm getting the "file xxx.orig.tar.gz already exists in <ppa>" error. instead of rebuildling my source deb based on the orig.tar that the error pointed to, i deleted the package from the ppa. [12:35] <mcclurmc> even though i've deleted the orig.tar from the ppa, i still get this error. any ideas? [12:35] <bigjools> mcclurmc: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/990 [12:36] <mcclurmc> bigjools: thanks for that [12:37] <mcclurmc> it's too bad i have to bump the upstream version though... [12:40] <mcclurmc> on a related note, i've found that the first time i push a package to a ppa, i have to build it with the option '-sa' to include the orig.tar in the source package, but the subsequent times that I upload a source package based on the same orig.tar, i have to disable the '-sa' option. [12:40] <mcclurmc> am i doing this right? [12:41] <geser> yes [12:53] <dpm> hi gmb, could you tell me if the second try of copying Oneiric translations to Precise work, and whether we can open the Precise translations in Launchpad? (http://blog.launchpad.net/translations/launchpad-translations-disruption-10-00-utc-2011-11-29) [12:54] <gmb> dpm: I don't know the answer to that. allenap might, I think. allenap, can you help dpm ? [12:54] <dpm> thanks gmb, forwarding the question to the right person helps already :) [12:54] <allenap> dpm: It did work, we finished at about 1100 UTC this morning. When do you want to open them? [12:55] <allenap> dpm: As far as I understand it, there ought to be a few days so that imports can happen. Jeroen knows what he's talking about, but it's now well past his EOD. [12:55] <dpm> thanks allenap, we'll have to have a look at the imports queue and approve any manual imports, but if all goes well, we were thinking after Alpha 1 [12:56] <dpm> allenap, yeah, no worries, I'm familiar with the imports, generally a set of translations community members (me amongst them) take care of them [12:57] <allenap> dpm: Cool, okay, then I don't need to worry :) I think everything is ready now for you to flick the switch when you're ready. [12:57] <dpm> excellent, thanks allenap [12:59] <dpm> oh, I do have one more question: several translators reported that the translation statistics for Ubuntu in LP do not seem to update (i.e. you translate some strings, translations are saved, but the number of untranslated strings in the stats remains frozen). Could that have something to do with the Oneiric -> Precise copy operation? [12:59] <dpm> allenap, ^ [12:59] <dpm> I first heard this last week, and yesterday someone was still reporting it [13:01] <allenap> dpm: I doubt it, but I don't have in-depth knowledge of Translation's data model to be able to say for sure. [13:02] <dpm> allenap, no worries. Actually, I think it's related to bug 877195 [13:02] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 877195 in Launchpad itself "Move statistics updating outside the web browser code" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/877195 [13:03] <allenap> dpm: Ah, jolly good. === matsubara_ is now known as matsubara === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch [14:09] <sladen> gmb: can I get my quota for directly contacting users via +contact rasised? I'm trying to follow up with several people who previously commented on a bug report and point them to a related one [14:15] <gmb> sladen: I don't know the answer to that off the top of my head, but I'll look into it for you presently. [14:22] <sladen> gmb: (or is there a way to unblock me for the moment) [14:23] <gmb> sladen: It looks as though the quota is a global config number, and the number of emails you've sent in the last $interval is compared to it. I don't think it's something that we can unblock without some data fudgery, but I'm still looking; bear with me... === hyperair is now known as Guest43903 [14:39] <gmb> sladen: Unfortunately, I don't think that that's something that we can reset for you at the moment (which is probably a bug, come to think of it). === webm0nk3y is now known as jdobrien === vednis is now known as mar === mar is now known as mars [14:58] <sladen> gmb: I've added a comment to the bottom of https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/294398 [14:58] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 294398 in Launchpad itself "Relax quota of 3 contact-this-user emails" [Low,Won't fix] [14:59] <gmb> sladen: Thank you. It should really be a per-user configurable limit, I think; sorry I can't do more to help you on this occasion. === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara === jcsacket1 is now known as jcsackett === askhl_ is now known as askhl === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch === gmb changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: - | Launchpad is an open source project: https://dev.launchpad.net/ | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | User Guide: https://help.launchpad.net/ | Support: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-lunch === beuno-lunch is now known as beuno === Ursinha-lunch is now known as Ursinha [18:24] <dobey> looks like the bzr plug-in on the recipe builder machines that make the source packages is buasted [18:26] <dobey> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/86205590/buildlog.txt.gz === joey is now known as Guest75949 [19:23] <jelmer> dobey: you have a comment in the header of your debian/control file [19:23] <jelmer> dobey: that breaks older versions of python-debian [19:23] <dobey> jelmer: precise has an older version? [19:24] <jelmer> dobey: the builders don't run precise [19:24] <jelmer> dobey: bug 804241 [19:24] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 804241 in python-debian (Ubuntu) "empty leading lines in debian/control break source package name finding" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/804241 [19:24] <dobey> oh right [19:57] <dobey> can i get added to ~vcs-imports or something, so i can at least fix broken stuff i come across without having to track someone down willing to spend 3 minutes to do it for me? [20:01] <janimo> james_w, hi, are there bzr branches of only the debian/ dir for each ubuntu package? [20:02] <james_w> janimo, no [20:02] <janimo> I wonder what a good way to get all package metadata w.o the upstream bits [20:02] <janimo> for various packages [20:04] <dobey> janimo: grab the debian.tar.gz out of the source repo? [20:04] <janimo> dobey, does not work for packages that are not in 3.0 (quilt) form does it? [20:05] <janimo> I was hoping we have LP and some APIs and not have to use wget+scripting glue [20:05] <dobey> janimo: i guess for the non-3.0 packages you can grab the diff.gz? [20:05] <dobey> well you can get anything out of the archive via the LP API i think [20:08] <jelmer> janimo: you can export the debian/ subtree directly from launchpad with bzr for all of the packaging branches? [20:09] <janimo> jelmer, does that mean checking out the whole source though? [20:10] <jelmer> janimo: no, though it does have some other overhead === Guest75949 is now known as joey === matsubara is now known as matsubara-afk [22:08] <megaribi> Hello [22:10] <megaribi> When will be translation statistics updated? [22:12] <megaribi> Until 5 days ago total statistics were updated daily and template statistics after submission, but now the list of templates shows incorrect number of untranslated and sugessted strings. [23:23] <megaribi> check

[00:07] im trying to sign the CoC but when trying to connect to the keysrver i get this: No se pudo comunicar con el servidor «keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371»: Internal Server Error === Ursinha_ is now known as Ursinha [08:58] Morning [09:01] Hallo === TLE is now known as TLE_PhD [09:43] hello everyone [09:44] who is responsible for http://bazaar.launchpad.net? [09:44] That's loggerhead. [09:44] Still LP :) [09:44] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/platform.precise/ ceased to exist in the last day or few days [09:45] and it's not obvious why [09:45] (this makes Xubuntu CD builds fail) [09:45] pitti: See #bzr. [09:45] right, going back there, sorry for the noise [09:45] pitti: This *is* the right channel, but jam figured it out in #bzr. [09:50] Huh, that's weird [09:50] Google now *sometimes* strips the "Bug #XYZ in package-name (Ubuntu: " from page titles when returning them as search results [09:50] e.g. http://www.google.com/search?q=trackpad+stops+working+site%3Abugs.launchpad.net [09:51] I guess now that it shows fewer characters in page titles (to make room for the page previews), it tries harder to make the characters it does show unique ones [09:52] or maybe it's just comparing the with the <h1> and concluding that the extra stuff in the <title> is fluff [09:53] <Peng> Nah, they probably just outsource titles to MTurk. === wgrant changed the topic of #launchpad to: Translations offline 10:00-12:00UTC | https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: benji | Launchpad is an open source project: https://dev.launchpad.net/ | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | User Guide: https://help.launchpad.net/ | Support: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad === gmb changed the topic of #launchpad to: Translations offline 10:00-12:00UTC | https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: gmb | Launchpad is an open source project: https://dev.launchpad.net/ | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | User Guide: https://help.launchpad.net/ | Support: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad === wgrant changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: gmb | Launchpad is an open source project: https://dev.launchpad.net/ | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | User Guide: https://help.launchpad.net/ | Support: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad === matsubara-afk is now known as matsubara === mrevell_ is now known as mrevell [12:33] <ev> I'm having a bit of grep fail this morning. Where does the code for part of the workflow that locks down the branch for all commits but ones with testfix actually live? As far as I can tell, it's not in pqm. [12:35] <mcclurmc> i'm getting the "file xxx.orig.tar.gz already exists in <ppa>" error. instead of rebuildling my source deb based on the orig.tar that the error pointed to, i deleted the package from the ppa. [12:35] <mcclurmc> even though i've deleted the orig.tar from the ppa, i still get this error. any ideas? [12:35] <bigjools> mcclurmc: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/990 [12:36] <mcclurmc> bigjools: thanks for that [12:37] <mcclurmc> it's too bad i have to bump the upstream version though... [12:40] <mcclurmc> on a related note, i've found that the first time i push a package to a ppa, i have to build it with the option '-sa' to include the orig.tar in the source package, but the subsequent times that I upload a source package based on the same orig.tar, i have to disable the '-sa' option. [12:40] <mcclurmc> am i doing this right? [12:41] <geser> yes [12:53] <dpm> hi gmb, could you tell me if the second try of copying Oneiric translations to Precise work, and whether we can open the Precise translations in Launchpad? (http://blog.launchpad.net/translations/launchpad-translations-disruption-10-00-utc-2011-11-29) [12:54] <gmb> dpm: I don't know the answer to that. allenap might, I think. allenap, can you help dpm ? [12:54] <dpm> thanks gmb, forwarding the question to the right person helps already :) [12:54] <allenap> dpm: It did work, we finished at about 1100 UTC this morning. When do you want to open them? [12:55] <allenap> dpm: As far as I understand it, there ought to be a few days so that imports can happen. Jeroen knows what he's talking about, but it's now well past his EOD. [12:55] <dpm> thanks allenap, we'll have to have a look at the imports queue and approve any manual imports, but if all goes well, we were thinking after Alpha 1 [12:56] <dpm> allenap, yeah, no worries, I'm familiar with the imports, generally a set of translations community members (me amongst them) take care of them [12:57] <allenap> dpm: Cool, okay, then I don't need to worry :) I think everything is ready now for you to flick the switch when you're ready. [12:57] <dpm> excellent, thanks allenap [12:59] <dpm> oh, I do have one more question: several translators reported that the translation statistics for Ubuntu in LP do not seem to update (i.e. you translate some strings, translations are saved, but the number of untranslated strings in the stats remains frozen). Could that have something to do with the Oneiric -> Precise copy operation? [12:59] <dpm> allenap, ^ [12:59] <dpm> I first heard this last week, and yesterday someone was still reporting it [13:01] <allenap> dpm: I doubt it, but I don't have in-depth knowledge of Translation's data model to be able to say for sure. [13:02] <dpm> allenap, no worries. Actually, I think it's related to bug 877195 [13:02] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 877195 in Launchpad itself "Move statistics updating outside the web browser code" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/877195 [13:03] <allenap> dpm: Ah, jolly good. === matsubara_ is now known as matsubara === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch [14:09] <sladen> gmb: can I get my quota for directly contacting users via +contact rasised? I'm trying to follow up with several people who previously commented on a bug report and point them to a related one [14:15] <gmb> sladen: I don't know the answer to that off the top of my head, but I'll look into it for you presently. [14:22] <sladen> gmb: (or is there a way to unblock me for the moment) [14:23] <gmb> sladen: It looks as though the quota is a global config number, and the number of emails you've sent in the last $interval is compared to it. I don't think it's something that we can unblock without some data fudgery, but I'm still looking; bear with me... === hyperair is now known as Guest43903 [14:39] <gmb> sladen: Unfortunately, I don't think that that's something that we can reset for you at the moment (which is probably a bug, come to think of it). === webm0nk3y is now known as jdobrien === vednis is now known as mar === mar is now known as mars [14:58] <sladen> gmb: I've added a comment to the bottom of https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/294398 [14:58] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 294398 in Launchpad itself "Relax quota of 3 contact-this-user emails" [Low,Won't fix] [14:59] <gmb> sladen: Thank you. It should really be a per-user configurable limit, I think; sorry I can't do more to help you on this occasion. === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara === jcsacket1 is now known as jcsackett === askhl_ is now known as askhl === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch === gmb changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: - | Launchpad is an open source project: https://dev.launchpad.net/ | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | User Guide: https://help.launchpad.net/ | Support: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-lunch === beuno-lunch is now known as beuno === Ursinha-lunch is now known as Ursinha [18:24] <dobey> looks like the bzr plug-in on the recipe builder machines that make the source packages is buasted [18:26] <dobey> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/86205590/buildlog.txt.gz === joey is now known as Guest75949 [19:23] <jelmer> dobey: you have a comment in the header of your debian/control file [19:23] <jelmer> dobey: that breaks older versions of python-debian [19:23] <dobey> jelmer: precise has an older version? [19:24] <jelmer> dobey: the builders don't run precise [19:24] <jelmer> dobey: bug 804241 [19:24] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 804241 in python-debian (Ubuntu) "empty leading lines in debian/control break source package name finding" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/804241 [19:24] <dobey> oh right [19:57] <dobey> can i get added to ~vcs-imports or something, so i can at least fix broken stuff i come across without having to track someone down willing to spend 3 minutes to do it for me? [20:01] <janimo> james_w, hi, are there bzr branches of only the debian/ dir for each ubuntu package? [20:02] <james_w> janimo, no [20:02] <janimo> I wonder what a good way to get all package metadata w.o the upstream bits [20:02] <janimo> for various packages [20:04] <dobey> janimo: grab the debian.tar.gz out of the source repo? [20:04] <janimo> dobey, does not work for packages that are not in 3.0 (quilt) form does it? [20:05] <janimo> I was hoping we have LP and some APIs and not have to use wget+scripting glue [20:05] <dobey> janimo: i guess for the non-3.0 packages you can grab the diff.gz? [20:05] <dobey> well you can get anything out of the archive via the LP API i think [20:08] <jelmer> janimo: you can export the debian/ subtree directly from launchpad with bzr for all of the packaging branches? [20:09] <janimo> jelmer, does that mean checking out the whole source though? [20:10] <jelmer> janimo: no, though it does have some other overhead === Guest75949 is now known as joey === matsubara is now known as matsubara-afk [22:08] <megaribi> Hello [22:10] <megaribi> When will be translation statistics updated? [22:12] <megaribi> Until 5 days ago total statistics were updated daily and template statistics after submission, but now the list of templates shows incorrect number of untranslated and sugessted strings. [23:23] <megaribi> check