[00:00] <wxl> doesn't necessarily imply it's a replacement for the gstreamer plugin for totem
[00:00] <wxl> (which again, makes no freaking sense)
[00:00] <KM0201> if you read the description in synaptic, it does
[00:00] <wxl> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[00:00] <wxl> totem-gstreamer in natty was transitional; it installed totem
[00:00] <wxl> therefore
[00:01]  * wxl *drum roll*
[00:01] <wxl> coolmag2: sudo apt-get install totem
[00:01] <coolmag2> i did
[00:01]  * wxl *TA-DA!*
[00:01] <coolmag2> um
[00:01] <wxl> ok then you're done with that
[00:01] <coolmag2> cp: cannot create regular file `/etc/ppscdn_config.ini': Permission denied  @_@
[00:01] <wxl> move on to the next step
[00:01] <coolmag2> how do I get permissions undenied
[00:01] <wxl> use "sudo" before the command most likely
[00:01] <KM0201> coolmag2: you probably have something else running root at the moment...
[00:01] <coolmag2> i'm following the compiling guide
[00:01] <KM0201> ..
[00:02] <KM0201> why are you compiling it?
[00:02] <wxl> oh KM0201
[00:02] <wxl> you missed the whole beginning to this
[00:02] <KM0201> i guess so.
[00:02] <wxl> coolmag2 wants ppstream
[00:02] <KM0201> oh.
[00:02] <KM0201> is there an example of a ppstream i can try?
[00:02] <KM0201> to see if i have it?
[00:02] <wxl> well yeah
[00:02] <wxl> you don't have it tho ;)
[00:02] <wxl> it ain't canonical approved
[00:02] <KM0201> hmm
[00:02] <KM0201> ok
[00:02] <wxl> and it doesn't exist in a ppa anywhere beyond natty
[00:03] <wxl> and if you can't read chinese you're unlikely to find the deb to play with
[00:03] <KM0201> lol
[00:03] <coolmag2> ? It has a deb file thing for download
[00:03] <wxl> i'm not freaking kidding either ;)
[00:03] <wxl> SUPPOSEDLY coolmag2
[00:03] <wxl> from what i read in english
[00:03] <wxl> however a visit to ppstream.com proved rather... um, what's the word.. fruitless?
[00:04] <coolmag2> wait do you want the .deb thing
[00:04] <coolmag2> I installed it but the program is all broken
[00:04] <coolmag2> I always have to open it 3 times before it stays open
[00:04] <coolmag2> anyways here it is: http://dl.pps.tv/pps_linux_download.html
[00:05] <wxl> https://launchpad.net/~cnav/+archive/ppa KM0201
[00:05] <wxl> http://download.ppstream.com/linux/readme.txt
[00:05] <wxl> omg
[00:06] <wxl> Ubuntu 8.04+
[00:06] <wxl> did you make sure you have libqt4-core libqt4-dbus libqt4-gui libqt4-network libqt4-webkit libqt4-xml libfuse2 mplayer
[00:07] <wxl> ?
[00:07] <wxl> and for that matter what version of those libs has it been built against
[00:07] <wxl> that just seems messed up
[00:07] <wxl> i wouldn't trust that deb to work with a 10 foot pole
[00:07] <coolmag2> um
[00:08] <coolmag2> I did the libqt stuff I think.
[00:08] <KM0201> wxl: trying the ppa now.
[00:08] <coolmag2> please ensure gcc and g++ and libc develop packages are installed <-- How do I do that
[00:08] <wxl> wonder why it needs fuse
[00:08] <coolmag2> do I install those with the thing
[00:10] <KM0201> hmm, nope, ppstream doesn't work there either
[00:10] <wxl> what probs you having KM0201 ?
[00:11] <KM0201> just the same thing, says it cannot be viewed
[00:11] <wxl> anywho i guess that gets to the core of the issue.. he's trying to get http://code.google.com/p/totem-pps/
[00:11] <wxl> and he's new
[00:11] <wxl> and it's compile hell ;)
[00:11] <coolmag> :D
[00:12] <coolmag> T_T
[00:12] <wxl> coolmag2: synaptic is your friend, make use out of it to get gcc g++ and libc
[00:13] <coolmag> okeydoke
[00:14] <wxl> i think you will find #lubuntu is generally full of friendly folk that don't mind helping out someone who's new
[00:15] <wxl> tho usually we don't get people compiling right from the get go ;)
[00:15] <wxl> (sometimes at all)
[00:17] <coolmag>  thx :D
[00:21] <coolmag> and it won't work with WINE right
[00:21] <wxl> ?
[00:21] <wxl> wait, how is wine involved?
[00:21] <coolmag> PPS
[00:21] <wxl> are you drinking again???
[00:21] <coolmag> xD
[00:21] <wxl> wtf you need wine??? how?
[00:23] <coolmag> hey do you know if any Linux thing exists for funshion at all?
[00:23] <wxl> i don't understand the question
[00:23] <coolmag> it's another program
[00:23] <coolmag> Funshion
[00:23] <wxl> look in synaptic
[00:24] <wxl> remember synaptic is your friend
[00:24] <coolmag> ok so if it's not there it's not
[00:24] <wxl> that means that if nothing's there it's not in the supported repositories
[00:40] <genoobie> hey this distro + OS totally rocks
[00:40] <genoobie> I am so friggin' happy right now
[00:40] <genoobie> I am making a clean break from windows
[00:40] <genoobie> no more virus crap, etc.
[00:41] <wxl> :)
[01:18] <coolmag2> Erg sound isn't working again
[01:19] <coolmag2> I ran alsamixer and some stuff is muted
[01:19] <coolmag2> How do I unmute stuff?
[01:19] <coolmag2> I can't find it in the little volume thing
[01:20] <coolmag2> How would I adjust those
[01:21] <genoobie> I am going to donate money to the lubunty project
[01:22] <genoobie> they've made a very nice distro + it is super fast
[03:16] <com64> I mounted a filesystem (located at /dev/sda9) to a mountpoint (/extended) and I don't have user write access. How do I add user write access?
[03:27] <com64> nvm; figured it out; had to use chmod a+rwx
[04:03] <Macaroni> hi, i just installed Rhythmbox on the latest Lubuntu, and there's no otpion to add radio streams, there's not even any radio streams by default like there is in ubuntu, why is that?
[04:16] <holstein> Macaroni: maybe some customizations that dont come by default with the package
[04:19] <Macaroni> hmm, ok, i'll check that out
[04:19] <holstein> what do you want?
[04:24] <Macaroni> i want to play radio from di.fm and somafm.com in rhythmbox
[04:28] <Unit193> Macaroni: Try installing  rhythmbox-radio-browser
[04:29] <holstein> COOL, that'll do it :)
[04:29] <Macaroni> ok, thanks guys :)
[05:30] <ickefes> hi guys. do you know why it comes that i can only open some files over samba? i can open pdf's but not txt or mp3/mp4
[05:34] <Unit193> Did you mount the share, or are you just browsing? I know VLC doesn't handle the smb:// protocol while others do
[05:34] <ickefes> nah, not mounted i think. noob...
[05:50] <ickefes> is there a quite easy way to mount a network dir?
[05:58] <Unit193> mount.cifs //192.168.1.100/share location -o user=USERNAME
[05:58] <ickefes> i will try that!
[05:58] <Unit193> Terminal command
[06:02] <Su7> hi !
[06:02] <Su7> lubuntu is an awesome OS, really
[06:02] <Su7> but I'd like to configure hotkeys for the volume
[06:02] <Su7> can someone help  me ?
[06:15] <ickefes> yeah, i managed to mount the dir! thank you Unit193! Had to use my brain a little and finally i succeeded
[06:15] <ickefes> thank you so much for the help!
[06:15] <Unit193> Great! Lubuntu needs you to work at it a little ;)
[06:20] <ickefes> but it seems little slow. if i play a FLAC from my other linux computer which is about 1000 kbps it stutters but if I play a m4a which is around 192kbps it plays fine. this did not happen when both of my machines were windows.
[07:30] <Su7> Hi there
[07:30] <Su7> I'd like to create simple shortcuts in my desktop
[07:31] <Su7> on lubuntu 11.10
[07:31] <Su7> can someone help me ?
[07:32] <bioterror> like?
[07:33] <Su7> like shortcuts to directories on my HD
[07:34] <Su7> I can create shortcuts to apps but not to directories :-(
[07:34] <bioterror> ln -s
[07:35] <Su7> yes but the path to this very directory is quite complicated
[07:36] <Su7> with non-ascii characters
[07:36] <Su7> isn't there a way to create one using a gui ?
[07:39] <JohnDoe_71Rus> Su7: create shortcuts pcmanfm to open that directory
[07:40] <JohnDoe_71Rus> think exec pcmanfm "/some/folder" am i right?
[07:43] <Su7> JohnDoe_71Rus : don't understand, do I run that command in a terminal ?
[07:43] <Su7> just opens the directory in the FM GUI; still not able to create shortcuts to my directories :(
[07:44] <JohnDoe_71Rus> Su7: first try in terminal
[07:45] <JohnDoe_71Rus> then create shortcut to pcmanfm and change command, properties
[07:48] <Su7> yes but as I have a very weird bath I can't write it in pcmanfm command
[07:49] <Su7> I can access to the folder using cd but not in a single space
[07:49] <Su7> the path contains spaces, special latin characters, etc
[07:50] <Su7> * in a single path sorry
[07:52] <JohnDoe_71Rus> use "" quotes to write path
[07:54] <Su7> still does not work using quotes
[07:54] <Su7> I don't understand why creating shortcuts to directories is not implemented in KDE
[07:55] <JohnDoe_71Rus> work on lxde in progress
[07:56] <JohnDoe_71Rus> if you try some like this /home/asm/space\ space\ space/binary/dosemu
[07:56] <Su7> that is exactly what I tried !
[07:57] <JohnDoe_71Rus> "/home/asm/space space space/binary/dosemu"
[07:58] <Su7> yes with dual quotes
[07:59] <Su7> ok
[07:59] <Su7> works without \
[07:59] <Su7> trying to create a shortcut right now
[08:10] <Su7> JohnDoe_71Rus : works like a charm, thanks !
[08:11] <Su7> JohnDoe_71Rus : I have another question for you : how can I configure hotkeys ?
[08:30] <Su7> Or maybe someone else can tell me how to configure hotkeys for tuning up alsamixer ?
[09:17] <Ascavasaion> Hello there.
[09:18] <Ascavasaion> If I change the CPU in my old machine from an AMD Duron 1300MHz to an AMD Athlon 2300MHz would I need to change kernels etc.?  Oh, and will the thing still work at all?
[09:19] <JohnDoe_71Rus> linux-image-*-generic? will work
[09:19] <Ascavasaion> JohnDoe_71Rus: Thank you :)
[09:20] <Ascavasaion> JohnDoe_71Rus: Do you think the performance gain will be noticable and worth the effort?
[09:22] <JohnDoe_71Rus> performance depends on several factors
[09:22] <Ascavasaion> Yeah, RAM being foremost I think ehhe
[09:23] <JohnDoe_71Rus> and speed memory controller
[09:23] <Ascavasaion> Speed memory controller?  What is that?
[09:24] <JohnDoe_71Rus> memory tramsfer
[09:24] <JohnDoe_71Rus> *transfer
[09:24] <Ascavasaion> Oh, would not know what to change there.
[09:25] <JohnDoe_71Rus> single or double mode memory
[09:25] <Ascavasaion> See, that I know  nothing about hehe
[09:32] <Ascavasaion> Oh well, I just tried every bus frequency setting and the monitor does not come out of standby when I power up.
[09:33] <Ascavasaion> Is there a channel on here I could join for hardware help?  #hardware perhaps?
[09:34] <Ascavasaion> Aaaah, found it :)
[10:01] <Ascavasaion> Oh well, turns out the motherboard does not support this processor :(
[15:01] <JadedJacob> If I'm created a liveCD out of flashdrive, can i use that to upgrade lubuntu?
[15:20] <Ascavasaion> What are the names of RAM chips used in older motherboards.  I have an Athlon machine, and do not know what to google for second hand RAM.  The RAM chip has two small notches in it.
[15:27] <phillw> Ascavasaion: I use http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/drammemory.aspx?cpe=pd_google_uk&ef_id=dqpOvtppFkcAAIUx:20111129152626:s&mpch=ads to find memory types
[15:29] <greg___> hello?
[15:29] <greg___> can I ask someone a simple question about lubuntu?
[15:29] <phillw> don't ask to ask... just do it :)
[15:30] <greg___> :)
[15:30] <greg___> I feel dumb asking it, but how does one add programs to the start menu? I'm trying to add a jre file (java -jar OmegaT)
[15:30] <greg___> Is there a gui for manipulating the start menu?
[15:32] <phillw> greg___: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#I_don.27t_know_how_to_make.2BAC8-add_a_application_to_.22start.22_menu.
[15:32] <phillw> You'll find the FAQ has some good stuff in it :)
[15:32] <greg___> thanks, I was already there, but I had problems
[15:33] <greg___> I suppose my second question (is there a gui for the start menu) is more applicable
[15:34] <phillw> greg___: not as yet.
[15:35] <greg___> ok, so I need to create .desktop files by hand, if I understood correctly
[15:36] <greg___> in /usr/share/applications/ ? just use a different .desktop file as an example?
[15:37] <phillw> greg___: yeah
[20:40] <david_j_r> Anyone got a good recommendation for external storage device with Lubuntu?
[20:41] <wxl> make your own
[20:41] <bioterror> mirrored drives with lots of warranty
[20:41] <bioterror> they all seems to suck nowdays
[20:41] <wxl> some more than others
[20:42] <david_j_r> I have a "WD MyBook" I use with the Windows machines around the house - it doesn't seem to like Lub. :(
[20:42] <wxl> but those "external drives" out there blow
[20:42] <wxl> exactly, like those
[20:42] <david_j_r> Sadly....
[20:42] <bioterror> I have too
[20:42] <wxl> my gripe about them, mainly, is cheap drives
[20:43] <bioterror> 500GB one from 2008 or something
[20:43] <wxl> but i'm sure you can make it work
[20:43] <wxl> is it fat or ntfs?
[20:43] <david_j_r> Works fine with the Win machines, but we have a couple older workhorse laptops on *buntu
[20:43] <bioterror> others has died, but that one keep running
[20:43] <david_j_r> Hmmm... now yr asking
[20:43] <bioterror> plug it in
[20:43] <bioterror> and run: dmesg
[20:43] <bioterror> in terminal
[20:43] <bioterror> and it will tell what's happening
[20:43] <david_j_r> OK - will be back in a few mins
[20:49] <david_j_r> so bioterror -
[20:49] <david_j_r> dmesg gives me 846 lines of output!
[20:49] <david_j_r> For the terminally curious (as it were), can be seen here: http://pastebin.com/aJNVhBmW
[20:50] <david_j_r> but short answer seems to be NTFS
[20:51] <david_j_r> as reported by Lubuntu's Disk Utility
[20:51] <wxl> but it doesn't show up in pcmanfm?
[20:52] <david_j_r> yep it does
[20:52] <wxl> um
[20:52] <wxl> then what's the problem ? ;)
[20:52] <david_j_r> data transfer!
[20:52] <wxl> ?
[20:53] <david_j_r> I copied quite a bit over, but just got directory structure and only a few files
[20:53] <david_j_r> is NTFS a problem?
[20:53] <wxl> it wasn't until 4 years ago that it became possible to read and write in linux to ntfs
[20:53] <wxl> it's not necessarily a problem
[20:54] <wxl> but it's more of a problem than, say, fat
[20:54] <david_j_r> Would it have been a problem for 9.04/Jaunty?
[20:54] <wxl> no clue
[20:54] <wxl> why?
[20:54] <Unit193> With ntfs-3g, it's not really a problem
[20:54] <david_j_r> That's what this machine was running before 11.10 Lubuntu
[20:55] <wxl> if it worked there it should work here
[20:55] <david_j_r> and some data on that MyBook from the 9.04 tfr's gives me I/O errors
[20:55] <david_j_r> well that's just it -- it didn't work very well with 9.04
[20:55] <david_j_r> so if folks here knew something reliable for *buntus, that would be a help
[20:56] <bioterror> they are all the same with usb
[20:56] <wxl> it should have been ~7 that ntfs-3g went in
[20:58] <wxl> cannot write encrypted or compressed files at the file system level
[20:59] <david_j_r> so ... what happens to ZIP files then?
[20:59] <wxl> they're compressed at the file level
[20:59] <wxl> should be fine
[21:00] <david_j_r> Well, I'll live with it a bit longer - maybe it will behave better on this newer system.
[21:00] <wxl> i can't rememebr if i formatted my usb drive at home ntfs or not
[21:01] <wxl> i don't think i did
[21:01] <wxl> and any time i've had something i've used for sharing i did fat
[21:02] <wxl> needless to say i've connected to ntfs drives a la samba
[21:05] <david_j_r> that's beyond my range! but thanks for the feedback - that's been useful.
[21:06] <wxl> there's really no good reason it shouldn't owrk
[21:07] <david_j_r> also good to know! might have been a quirk on the day.
[21:08] <david_j_r> that's me away then. Thanks again!
[21:09] <wxl> david_j_r: file a bug report if it happens again
[21:09] <david_j_r> OK - will keep an eye on it.
[21:09] <wxl> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReportingBugs
[21:09] <wxl> it's super easy if you've never done it before
[21:11] <david_j_r> Bookmarked. Done it elsewhere, but not with Launchpad.
[21:12] <david_j_r> Got one or two screen quirks that probably ought to be filed - or check to see if someone else has.
[21:12] <david_j_r> Mentioned them on "One Stop" thread on the ubuntu forum, but no traction.
[21:12] <Unit193> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html Is a good read too
[21:12] <mark76> BRB
[21:13] <david_j_r> Unit193 - that's like some of the "how to ask questions" advice you see sometimes.
[21:13] <david_j_r> good advice indeed
[21:14] <Unit193> :D
[21:14] <Unit193> I need to have3 a good read of it
[21:14] <david_j_r> http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[21:15] <david_j_r> was the one I was thinking of
[21:15] <wxl> i find that everyone wants to be helpful
[21:15] <wxl> i've found that to be especially true here
[21:15] <wxl> but people pay attention to bug reports
[21:15] <wxl> it's someone's "job" so to speak ;)
[21:16] <david_j_r> which is right - devs can't monitor the community sources, and need a structure way to deal with issues
[21:16] <david_j_r> *structured way
[21:16] <wxl> right
[21:17] <wxl> and most issues are support issues really.. the sorts of things devs would just snap back with rtfm ;)
[21:17] <wxl> and/or pebkac
[21:17] <david_j_r> lol - hadn't seen that one before.
[21:17] <david_j_r> I have quite a few problems in that space :)
[21:18] <wxl> hahahahaha
[21:18] <wxl> we all do, my friend, we all do ;)
[21:18] <david_j_r> right - time for food! Good chatting. Bye for now!