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jcastroyikes00:05
pangolinyou broke something00:05
bkerensa=/00:11
jcastrohi02:29
bkerensahi02:36
cjohnstonih02:37
dholbachgood morning08:07
nigelbGood morning dholbach08:15
dholbachhi nigelb08:15
nigelbAww, no dpm yet.08:18
nigelb:)08:19
nigelbHey dpm, have you seen http://horv.at/blog/easy-access-to-subpages/ yet? :)08:20
dpmnigelb, I hadn't, looks very interesting, thanks!08:30
nigelbdpm: The demo is *amazing*. I'm blown away :)08:31
=== huats_ is now known as huats
alouriegood morning08:43
jussigood morning alourie! feeling better today?08:45
nigelbHey jussi08:48
czajkowskijussi email!!08:52
alouriejussi: yes08:55
alouriefeeling fine :-)08:55
alouriethanks08:55
MooDoomorning all09:05
huatsmorning09:27
jussiczajkowski: done!09:28
czajkowskijussi: moderated09:34
czajkowskijussi: thanks09:34
MooDoohow is everyone this morning?09:35
bkerensadholbach: ;) The Ubuntu Design police contacted me :P10:59
dholbachbkerensa, eh?10:59
bkerensayeah idk very odd10:59
bkerensasomeone at Canonical who is on the Ubuntu Design Team pm'ed me and asked me to take down the old ubuntu logo from my post about the Ubuntu/Debian jam11:00
bkerensaand to replace it with the newer guideline logo :P11:00
dholbachmaybe you can ask for some help? :)11:00
bkerensalol11:00
bkerensaWell I just updated it but the convo was a surprise because I didn't think it was enforced so quickly and heavily :P11:01
MooDoolol now you do :D11:01
dholbachbkerensa, if it came across as policing and enforcing, I'd mention that to the person11:01
bkerensayeah11:02
czajkowskihighvoltage: nice blog post13:43
highvoltagethanks czajkowski13:48
doctormonhighvoltage: linky?13:57
dholbachlate late late late lunch14:32
MooDoodholbach: if you don't eat now you never will :)14:35
czajkowskijussi: you're missing from locoteams14:51
mhall119doctormon: /w 3015:17
mhall119gah, I hate this lag15:17
mhall119doctormon: I assume she meant http://jonathancarter.org/2011/11/29/principles/ which is indeed a nice post15:18
doctormonmhall119: did you read my comment on that post?15:18
mhall119I didn't see comments onti...15:21
dholbachMooDoo, it really was necessary to have something now :)15:38
MooDooL(15:38
MooDoo:)15:38
MooDoofood glorious food15:41
dholbachhad a great vegetarian burger - life is good again15:41
MooDooi'm not a vegetarian, but i so like smoked tofu :D15:42
dholbachyeah, it was a different kind of burger, no tofu, but still good :)15:43
dholbach<3 hippie food ;-)15:43
MooDoohehe15:43
dholbachhey jono16:00
jonodpm, dholbach, jcastro ok16:00
jonolet's get this party started16:00
dpmmorning jono16:00
jonohey dholbach, dpm16:00
jonodholbach, dpm, jcastro all set for the meeting?16:01
dpmready to roll16:01
* dholbach is16:01
jono#startmeeting16:01
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Nov 29 16:01:31 2011 UTC.  The chair is jono. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.16:01
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jono#meetingtopic daniel roundtable16:02
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-community-team to: "Work Items: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-community.html || Community Trello: http://goo.gl/n4or5 (experiment) || Things to work on (in order): OpenWeek, UDS prep, WI's, Blueprints for UDS || dholbach's channel: http://goo.gl/9xNTd || dpm's channel: http://goo.gl/o2IR5" | daniel roundtable Meeting | Current topic:
jonooops16:02
dholbachhere's what I did since last time16:02
jono#meetingtopic Canonical Community Team meeting16:02
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-community-team to: "Work Items: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-community.html || Community Trello: http://goo.gl/n4or5 (experiment) || Things to work on (in order): OpenWeek, UDS prep, WI's, Blueprints for UDS || dholbach's channel: http://goo.gl/9xNTd || dpm's channel: http://goo.gl/o2IR5" | Canonical Community Team meeting Meeting | Current topic:
jcastrobah sorry16:02
jonoshoot dholbach16:02
dholbach - CC: added Canonical Blog to Planet Ubuntu, LoCo Council restaffing, team call, organisational bits.16:02
jcastrointernet connection, I am here!16:02
dholbach - ARB: call with David, analysis of open items in the queue, some discussion about how to speed up the process.16:02
dholbach - Ubuntu development news: more team organisation, posted another update, planned meetings (one for AU folks, one for US folks), documented news sources/process.16:03
dholbach - IRC Team: reviewed survey summary, started planning election.16:03
dholbach - Patch Pilot: set up schedule for Dec/Jan.16:03
dholbach - Admin: took remaining holidays (8.12. - 14.12.). :-D16:03
dholbach - Dev docs: more clarification about app dev vs. platform dev.16:04
dholbach - dev advisory team: put more work into making data semi-public, still some way to go. apart from that, the team is set up and ready to announce.16:04
dholbach - Interviewed somebody for the QA role.16:04
dholbachDone.16:04
jonocool16:04
jonothanks dholbach16:04
jonoany questions for daniel?16:04
jonoalrighty16:05
jonothe man...16:06
jono...with the plan...16:06
jono...the legend...16:06
jono...dpm!16:06
dpmallright, here I go... :)16:06
dpmI hope I live up to the expectations...16:06
dpm• Re-launched this cycle's biweekly translations meetings, set up a calendar schedule16:06
dpm∘ Log: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Meetings/2011-11-2416:06
jonoheh16:06
dpm• Spent some time writing a set of scripts to automate some translations tasks as discussed in the translations meeting, published them as ubuntu-l10n-tools in a PPA with daily builds enabled16:07
dpmhttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-translations-coordinators/+archive/ppa16:07
dpm• Had a chat with dholbach on stats and started writing a couple of scripts for some App Developer growth metrics16:07
dholbachdpm, how could you not.... (live up to the expectations)? ... http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6039/6390074913_72823caef3_z.jpg16:07
dpmthere I outlived the expectations, yeah ;)16:08
jonodholbach, lol16:08
* dpm takes off the 'tache16:08
jcastrololzees16:09
dpm• Had another chat with dholbach on how the community team can help the ARB16:09
* dholbach hugs dpm16:09
* dpm hugs back16:09
dpm• And yet another chat with cproffit regarding Ubuntu App Development in Education16:09
dpm• Admin: Finally got round to book the Ubuntu Engineering Rally flights16:10
dpmI think these were the relevant bits16:10
jonothanks dpm16:10
jonoany questions for dpm?16:10
jcastrono questions, just a statement16:11
jcastroyour hair looks amazing today16:11
jonolol16:11
dpmhahaha16:11
jonohe does have awesome hair16:11
jonowhen I think of dpm all I hear is wakka wakka guitar playing16:12
* dpm lols16:12
jonoalrighty...16:12
jono...the unstoppable force...16:12
jono...for good and evil...16:12
jono...jcastro!16:12
jcastro(mostly evil)16:13
snap-l(trumpet blare)16:13
jonoI still can't believe you met Nicko16:13
jcastro- Sorted office hours for the juju team.16:13
jcastro- Charm School this Friday, 1500UTC in #juju, BE THERE.16:13
jcastroshould be fun!16:13
jcastro- Some great incoming charms this week from our contributors, Teamspeak, Thinkup, and Apache FTP. (More coming in the pipe like status.net and phpmyadmin)16:13
jcastro- Finishing up planning for SCALE Charm School, mostly done.16:13
jcastrowe have an entire room available to us on Friday for the charm school16:13
jcastrobut we'll likely not use it the whole day16:13
jcastro- Talked to cjohnston about a summit sprint, Jono I need a quick call (5 min) to brief you on this, I forgot to mention it during our call.16:14
jcastro- Various Charm workflow fixes, Wiki tweakage, review tweakage.16:14
jcastro- Met Nicko McBrain, drummer for Iron Maiden. No luck trying to get him to write a juju charm, or if he knows what Ubuntu even is. Next time.16:14
jcastro- mmims has been kept pretty busy with the new contributors, aww yeah.16:14
jonojcastro, np16:14
jcastromims is pretty much crushed the past few days16:14
jcastroI consider this good.16:14
jcastroMy hand wavy estimate is after this charm school we should see more peer/peer reviews rather than everyone wailing on mims16:14
jcastro- Hashed out some ideas with Kapil for rendering READMEs on the charm store so people can have instructions on how to use their charms16:15
jcastro- Proposed some ideas for "snippets" for charms, marco made a prototype and Clint is improving the charm tools for this so charm authors aren't reimplementing the same things.16:15
jcastrothe tldr; is the charm browser will render a readme like github does16:15
jcastrowe're still bikeshedding snippets, but the tldr there is to make them functions in charm-tools16:15
jononice!16:15
jcastroso you can reuse a snippet like "get a tarball from this place and make sure it's hashed"16:16
jcastroinstead of everyone writing their own16:16
jcastro- Got annoyed by the stupid mysql interface, convinced Clint it was a bug and Marco fixed it. :)16:16
jcastro- We have a new Cloud Evangelist, sent him a mail introducing myself.16:16
jcastrohttps://twitter.com/#!/kylemacdonald is the guy16:16
jcastroquestions?16:16
jonoany questions for jcastro?16:17
jonoalrighty16:18
jonoI am up next16:18
jono * Off for a few days with thanksgiving, so less this week than usual.16:18
jonohappy holidays everyone!16:18
jono * Finalized 12.04 team metrics - everyone's is in place now.16:18
jonothanks to the team for getting these finalized16:18
jono * Now that the BPs, metrics, and plans are in place, properly kicked off 12.04 with the team, everyone is in good shape. Burndown is rocking.16:19
jono * Synced up with Mark re. Juju. Jorge is making good progress, charms growth is happening. Projections this cycle look positive.16:19
jono * Interviewing this last week for the QA Community Coordinator role. I hope to have a candidate finalized over the next week.16:19
jonothis is my top priority right now, I need this role filled for the 12.04 cycle16:20
jono * Synced up with some teams, re-reviewed UDS content, and released a stack of blog entries providing updates for the community.16:20
jonomore blog entries to come16:20
jono * Prepping for the Qt Dev Days keynote I am doing tomorrow.16:20
jonothis talk will be discussing the future of how Ubuntu and Qt will work together16:21
jono * Did some ARB assessments, asked dholbach and dpm to provide some support for the board.16:21
jonothanks to dholbach and dpm for your contributions here - I think you can really provide some great help to the board16:21
jonoan help the ARB to be successful16:21
jono * Finalized team travel for the rally events in Jan.16:21
jonodpm, dholbach, jcastro btw, I will be leaving for another team sprint in Vienna the Sat after the rally, will be flying back on the Tues16:22
jono * Approved swap days / expenses. Still need to file my own. Sigh.16:22
jono * Also, outside of work: announced the Community Leadership Summit (14th - 15th July 2012) and finished the Severed Fifth album \m/16:23
jonoand that is it from me16:23
jonoany questions for me?16:23
jcastroanyone else from ubuntu going to Qt Dev Days?16:23
jonojcastro, I know dpitkin is, but I am not sure if anyone else is16:23
alouriejono: can I pm you?16:23
dholbachjcastro, mvo mentioned to me on the phone that david pitkin....16:23
jonoalourie, sure16:24
dholbachjono beat me to it :)16:24
jcastrook16:24
jcastrojono: I am confused on the sprint16:24
jonodholbach, :-)16:24
jonojcastro, confused about what?16:24
jcastrodoes that mean you get to the platform sprint on tuesday?16:24
jonojcastro, no, I will arrive the Sun like everyone else16:24
jonoand then I will do the week rally in Budapest16:24
jcastrooh, tuesday after.16:24
jonoand then on the Sat after the rally, Mark is organizing a "mgmt retreat" in Vienna16:25
bkerensa:D16:25
jcastrohahah16:25
jcastroman, have a good time16:25
jono;-)16:25
jonoheh16:25
jonoyeah, it should be fine16:25
jonoit will be all caviar and smoking jackets16:25
jcastroI was thinking more like hot tub time machine16:26
jonohaha16:26
jcastrobut ok16:26
jonoyeah, this is mainly to help solidify some of the new mgrs16:26
jonoand then I am there until Tues the following week and then I fly back16:26
jonoso I will be back at work like normal on Wed16:26
alouriejono: I though all this is normal16:27
jonoalourie, what is?16:27
alourieso back to what? :-D16:27
alourieall this flying over to parties16:27
mhall119heh, parties, right16:27
mhall119nothing says "fun" like 12 hours flying couch16:27
dholbachjono, your "this is how our team works" posts are not working16:28
jonoalourie, yeah, they are definitely not parties16:28
jonodholbach, heh16:28
alouriejono: sure16:28
jono:-)16:29
jonoany topics?16:29
dpmI'm all set16:30
jonocool16:30
jonothanks, folks!16:30
jono#endmeeting16:30
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-community-team to: "Work Items: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-community.html || Community Trello: http://goo.gl/n4or5 (experiment) || Things to work on (in order): OpenWeek, UDS prep, WI's, Blueprints for UDS || dholbach's channel: http://goo.gl/9xNTd || dpm's channel: http://goo.gl/o2IR5"
meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Nov 29 16:30:25 2011 UTC.16:30
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-community-team/2011/ubuntu-community-team.2011-11-29-16.01.moin.txt16:30
jonodholbach, give me a few mins16:30
jonoand then we can sync up16:30
scott-workgood morning :)16:30
MooDooawesome, so that's how you guys roll :D16:30
jcastronow that the bot is done, PARTY!16:30
jonoin the meantime, enjoy http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6039/6390074913_72823caef3_z.jpg16:30
jonoMooDoo, heh16:30
jonohey scott-work :-)16:30
jcastrohey jono16:31
* dpm hugs jono16:31
jcastrohttp://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvaqguHnqo1qb5bmy.jpg16:31
scott-workhiya jono , working on another album i read...cool deal16:31
jcastro:) :) :)16:31
bkerensajono: You must let us know if they actually make vienna sausages in vienna :D16:31
scott-workdoctormon: i hear you are interested in some artwork for ubuntu studio16:31
scott-workdoctormon: i'll be working up a spec this weekend hopefully16:31
dholbachalourie, this is probably more what it's like: http://bit.ly/gHdCyz16:32
jcastrodholbach: haha that is awesome16:33
jcastrothat's our new mascot16:33
jonoscott-work, finished much of it last night16:33
jono:-)16:33
alouriedholbach: I think it's what jono tells you all :-)16:33
jonoit is sounding pretty rocking!16:33
jcastrothe four donkeys on a millstone of the apocalypse16:33
bkerensajono: I think we should have the Deb/Ubuntu combined jam in Ubuntu Devel News on Thursday if you want to plug that16:33
jcastrodholbach: here you go: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_c4lzk84-Q5U/S_MZB0_tV2I/AAAAAAAAASM/dM18eyQS5kw/s1600/wheel_of_pain.jpg16:34
scott-workjono: i'm starting to build towards an album myself, one song sent for mixing and mastering, another one starting writing now16:34
dholbachjcastro, where did you get that from? :)16:35
jcastrodholbach: it's from Conan16:35
alouriethe original one16:35
bkerensascott-work: Have you heard FOSS Yeaaaah! ?16:36
scott-workbkerensa: no, what is it?16:37
bkerensaa song I made four days ago about Ubuntu, Unity, Gnome and a small exodus to Linux Mint16:37
bkerensa:D16:37
bkerensahttp://soundcloud.com/bkerensa/foss-yeaaaah16:37
bkerensa5k plays in under a week :D16:37
scott-workjono: i wanted to ask you who payed the leads for the last album, was that you or jim16:39
scott-workbkerensa: i'll defintely check that out16:39
jonoscott-work, we both did16:39
technovikingwhat does on-file mean on the Canonical job applicant status16:39
doctormonbkerensa: foss-yeaaah, is that the song about: "Please move to Debian, Mint or Fedora, they also solve bug #1"?16:39
scott-worki thought the leads and song structure on the second album were far more mature and expansive16:39
ubot2doctormon: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 (Not reporting large bug)16:39
scott-workjono: i thought the leads and song structure on the second album were far more mature and expansive16:40
mhall119bkerensa: nice16:41
jcastroanyone have any more questions for me before I head to lunch?16:41
bkerensadoctormon: Oh no :) that will be saved for another album :D16:41
jcastrodholbach: you will be proud of me16:44
jcastroI am having a salad!16:44
dholbachjcastro, oh wow - what happened? I thought you were afraid of everything that's green16:45
dholbachjcastro, or hang on - is it a meat salad or something? ;-)16:45
jcastroI am not16:45
jcastroas long as I put meat on top of it16:45
mhall119taco salad?16:45
dholbach:)16:45
bkerensafruit salad?16:46
mhall119yummy yummy16:46
jonosorry dholbach, I had to sort some internal stuff out16:47
jonograbbing my headset and then will call16:47
dholbachok16:48
jcastropopey: "Told you so." ftw.16:54
akgranerscott-work, you do realize you used jono AND mature and expansive in the same sentence - I had to read that twice...16:58
MooDoodoes that mean he's old n fat? ;)17:11
MooDoojcastro: son't tell me apple + ubuntu :)17:11
jonothanks scott-work - this release is a pro recording of the second album17:14
technovikingMooDoo: old and fat, stop talking about me:)17:17
MooDootechnoviking: me as well :D lol17:18
dholbachtime to call it a day - see you all tomorrow17:42
nigelbg'nite dholbach17:43
czajkowskihead_victim: *ping*17:54
* nigelb notes its probably late for him.17:55
czajkowskipossibly17:56
scott-workakgraner: lol, yeah i know :)18:00
scott-workjono: oh good!  i thought that had fallen through since i hadn't read about it for a while, i'm curious to hear the difference between the two18:01
jcastropopey: now engadget is toting the DW stats18:49
popeyjcastro: where?18:51
macoDebian Women? Dreamwidth?18:53
macooh, distrowatch18:53
AlanBellI think it is tech media silly season19:02
czajkowskiAlanBell: great another day of it in my RSS feeds :/19:03
jcastropopey: I think it's because you're a paid canonical podcaster now19:05
jcastroI mean ....19:05
jcastro:)19:06
popeyhah19:06
technovikingpopey: corporate shill :)19:07
jcastromy transformer gets here today!19:07
technovikingOptimus Prime or Jazz?19:08
jcastrothe first one19:09
jcastroI don't think he has a name19:09
jcastrothe one that is cheaper now thanks to the PRIME.19:09
jcastroI'm going to crank "You've got the touch!" when I open it.19:09
* AlanBell is waiting for the prime19:09
AlanBellif there is an ubuntu image for it19:10
technovikinggot Alex (my son) a Pocket Ref for Christmas:)19:10
scott-workjono: sorry, i lost connection after my comment about a possible differenc e in the pro-recorded version19:18
scott-workjono: so if you made a comment i didn't catch it19:18
* scott-work has problems with webchat some days just loosing connection and hanging there19:19
jcastrojono: ok dumb question19:42
jcastrowe still have our team call tomorrow right?19:42
jonojcastro, nope19:43
jonowe do IRC meetings now, and I am going to schedule an addition G+ hangout19:43
jcastrook that's what was confusing me19:44
jcastroI thought it was in addition to19:44
jcastroso we could say things in public, and then in private be like "God, I hate popey don't you?"19:44
jcastro"I know right"19:44
jonolol19:45
* popey waits until his 3 month probation is over before filing a grievance against jcastro with HR19:53
jcastro\o/19:54
scott-workjono: when is the 2nd edition of 'art of community' coming out?  i want to order it for my tablet and need  a new book, should i get the 1st edition or wait?20:06
doctormonscott-work: What format of ebooks do you read?20:28
scott-workdoctormon: whatever i get from the android market for my xoom20:28
doctormonCool, I'm making epub and mobis today.20:29
head_victimczajkowski: pong20:33
* scott-work grumbles again about webchat21:11
scott-workjono: did you say if "art of community" 2nd edition is coming soon or should i buy the 1st edition?21:11
jonosorry scott-work, was on a call21:12
jonoscott-work, I recommend you download the first edition but buy the second ed :-)21:12
scott-workoh good , because it's one of those days where webchat has dropped me several times :/21:12
jonono worries!21:12
scott-workjono: lol21:12
jonojcastro, around?21:50

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