[00:05] <jcastro> yikes
[00:05] <pangolin> you broke something
[00:11] <bkerensa> =/
[02:29] <jcastro> hi
[02:36] <bkerensa> hi
[02:37] <cjohnston> ih
[08:07] <dholbach> good morning
[08:15] <nigelb> Good morning dholbach
[08:15] <dholbach> hi nigelb
[08:18] <nigelb> Aww, no dpm yet.
[08:19] <nigelb> :)
[08:20] <nigelb> Hey dpm, have you seen http://horv.at/blog/easy-access-to-subpages/ yet? :)
[08:30] <dpm> nigelb, I hadn't, looks very interesting, thanks!
[08:31] <nigelb> dpm: The demo is *amazing*. I'm blown away :)
[08:43] <alourie> good morning
[08:45] <jussi> good morning alourie! feeling better today?
[08:48] <nigelb> Hey jussi
[08:52] <czajkowski> jussi email!!
[08:55] <alourie> jussi: yes
[08:55] <alourie> feeling fine :-)
[08:55] <alourie> thanks
[09:05] <MooDoo> morning all
[09:27] <huats> morning
[09:28] <jussi> czajkowski: done!
[09:34] <czajkowski> jussi: moderated
[09:34] <czajkowski> jussi: thanks
[09:35] <MooDoo> how is everyone this morning?
[10:59] <bkerensa> dholbach: ;) The Ubuntu Design police contacted me :P
[10:59] <dholbach> bkerensa, eh?
[10:59] <bkerensa> yeah idk very odd
[11:00] <bkerensa> someone at Canonical who is on the Ubuntu Design Team pm'ed me and asked me to take down the old ubuntu logo from my post about the Ubuntu/Debian jam
[11:00] <bkerensa> and to replace it with the newer guideline logo :P
[11:00] <dholbach> maybe you can ask for some help? :)
[11:00] <bkerensa> lol
[11:01] <bkerensa> Well I just updated it but the convo was a surprise because I didn't think it was enforced so quickly and heavily :P
[11:01] <MooDoo> lol now you do :D
[11:01] <dholbach> bkerensa, if it came across as policing and enforcing, I'd mention that to the person
[11:02] <bkerensa> yeah
[13:43] <czajkowski> highvoltage: nice blog post
[13:48] <highvoltage> thanks czajkowski
[13:57] <doctormon> highvoltage: linky?
[14:32] <dholbach> late late late late lunch
[14:35] <MooDoo> dholbach: if you don't eat now you never will :)
[14:51] <czajkowski> jussi: you're missing from locoteams
[15:17] <mhall119> doctormon: /w 30
[15:17] <mhall119> gah, I hate this lag
[15:18] <mhall119> doctormon: I assume she meant http://jonathancarter.org/2011/11/29/principles/ which is indeed a nice post
[15:18] <doctormon> mhall119: did you read my comment on that post?
[15:21] <mhall119> I didn't see comments onti...
[15:38] <dholbach> MooDoo, it really was necessary to have something now :)
[15:38] <MooDoo> L(
[15:38] <MooDoo> :)
[15:41] <MooDoo> food glorious food
[15:41] <dholbach> had a great vegetarian burger - life is good again
[15:42] <MooDoo> i'm not a vegetarian, but i so like smoked tofu :D
[15:43] <dholbach> yeah, it was a different kind of burger, no tofu, but still good :)
[15:43] <dholbach> <3 hippie food ;-)
[15:43] <MooDoo> hehe
[16:00] <dholbach> hey jono
[16:00] <jono> dpm, dholbach, jcastro ok
[16:00] <jono> let's get this party started
[16:00] <dpm> morning jono
[16:00] <jono> hey dholbach, dpm
[16:01] <jono> dholbach, dpm, jcastro all set for the meeting?
[16:01] <dpm> ready to roll
[16:01]  * dholbach is
[16:01] <jono> #startmeeting
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[16:02] <jono> #meetingtopic daniel roundtable
[16:02] <jono> oops
[16:02] <dholbach> here's what I did since last time
[16:02] <jono> #meetingtopic Canonical Community Team meeting
[16:02] <jcastro> bah sorry
[16:02] <jono> shoot dholbach
[16:02] <dholbach>  - CC: added Canonical Blog to Planet Ubuntu, LoCo Council restaffing, team call, organisational bits.
[16:02] <jcastro> internet connection, I am here!
[16:02] <dholbach>  - ARB: call with David, analysis of open items in the queue, some discussion about how to speed up the process.
[16:03] <dholbach>  - Ubuntu development news: more team organisation, posted another update, planned meetings (one for AU folks, one for US folks), documented news sources/process.
[16:03] <dholbach>  - IRC Team: reviewed survey summary, started planning election.
[16:03] <dholbach>  - Patch Pilot: set up schedule for Dec/Jan.
[16:03] <dholbach>  - Admin: took remaining holidays (8.12. - 14.12.). :-D
[16:04] <dholbach>  - Dev docs: more clarification about app dev vs. platform dev.
[16:04] <dholbach>  - dev advisory team: put more work into making data semi-public, still some way to go. apart from that, the team is set up and ready to announce.
[16:04] <dholbach>  - Interviewed somebody for the QA role.
[16:04] <dholbach> Done.
[16:04] <jono> cool
[16:04] <jono> thanks dholbach
[16:04] <jono> any questions for daniel?
[16:05] <jono> alrighty
[16:06] <jono> the man...
[16:06] <jono> ...with the plan...
[16:06] <jono> ...the legend...
[16:06] <jono> ...dpm!
[16:06] <dpm> allright, here I go... :)
[16:06] <dpm> I hope I live up to the expectations...
[16:06] <dpm> • Re-launched this cycle's biweekly translations meetings, set up a calendar schedule
[16:06] <dpm> 	∘ Log: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Meetings/2011-11-24
[16:06] <jono> heh
[16:07] <dpm> • Spent some time writing a set of scripts to automate some translations tasks as discussed in the translations meeting, published them as ubuntu-l10n-tools in a PPA with daily builds enabled
[16:07] <dpm> 	∘ https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-translations-coordinators/+archive/ppa
[16:07] <dpm> • Had a chat with dholbach on stats and started writing a couple of scripts for some App Developer growth metrics
[16:07] <dholbach> dpm, how could you not.... (live up to the expectations)? ... http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6039/6390074913_72823caef3_z.jpg
[16:08] <dpm> there I outlived the expectations, yeah ;)
[16:08] <jono> dholbach, lol
[16:08]  * dpm takes off the 'tache
[16:09] <jcastro> lolzees
[16:09] <dpm> • Had another chat with dholbach on how the community team can help the ARB
[16:09]  * dholbach hugs dpm
[16:09]  * dpm hugs back
[16:09] <dpm> • And yet another chat with cproffit regarding Ubuntu App Development in Education
[16:10] <dpm> • Admin: Finally got round to book the Ubuntu Engineering Rally flights
[16:10] <dpm> I think these were the relevant bits
[16:10] <jono> thanks dpm
[16:10] <jono> any questions for dpm?
[16:11] <jcastro> no questions, just a statement
[16:11] <jcastro> your hair looks amazing today
[16:11] <jono> lol
[16:11] <dpm> hahaha
[16:11] <jono> he does have awesome hair
[16:12] <jono> when I think of dpm all I hear is wakka wakka guitar playing
[16:12]  * dpm lols
[16:12] <jono> alrighty...
[16:12] <jono> ...the unstoppable force...
[16:12] <jono> ...for good and evil...
[16:12] <jono> ...jcastro!
[16:13] <jcastro> (mostly evil)
[16:13] <snap-l> (trumpet blare)
[16:13] <jono> I still can't believe you met Nicko
[16:13] <jcastro> - Sorted office hours for the juju team.
[16:13] <jcastro> - Charm School this Friday, 1500UTC in #juju, BE THERE.
[16:13] <jcastro> should be fun!
[16:13] <jcastro> - Some great incoming charms this week from our contributors, Teamspeak, Thinkup, and Apache FTP. (More coming in the pipe like status.net and phpmyadmin)
[16:13] <jcastro> - Finishing up planning for SCALE Charm School, mostly done.
[16:13] <jcastro> we have an entire room available to us on Friday for the charm school
[16:13] <jcastro> but we'll likely not use it the whole day
[16:14] <jcastro> - Talked to cjohnston about a summit sprint, Jono I need a quick call (5 min) to brief you on this, I forgot to mention it during our call.
[16:14] <jcastro> - Various Charm workflow fixes, Wiki tweakage, review tweakage.
[16:14] <jcastro> - Met Nicko McBrain, drummer for Iron Maiden. No luck trying to get him to write a juju charm, or if he knows what Ubuntu even is. Next time.
[16:14] <jcastro> - mmims has been kept pretty busy with the new contributors, aww yeah.
[16:14] <jono> jcastro, np
[16:14] <jcastro> mims is pretty much crushed the past few days
[16:14] <jcastro> I consider this good.
[16:14] <jcastro> My hand wavy estimate is after this charm school we should see more peer/peer reviews rather than everyone wailing on mims
[16:15] <jcastro> - Hashed out some ideas with Kapil for rendering READMEs on the charm store so people can have instructions on how to use their charms
[16:15] <jcastro> - Proposed some ideas for "snippets" for charms, marco made a prototype and Clint is improving the charm tools for this so charm authors aren't reimplementing the same things.
[16:15] <jcastro> the tldr; is the charm browser will render a readme like github does
[16:15] <jcastro> we're still bikeshedding snippets, but the tldr there is to make them functions in charm-tools
[16:15] <jono> nice!
[16:16] <jcastro> so you can reuse a snippet like "get a tarball from this place and make sure it's hashed"
[16:16] <jcastro> instead of everyone writing their own
[16:16] <jcastro> - Got annoyed by the stupid mysql interface, convinced Clint it was a bug and Marco fixed it. :)
[16:16] <jcastro> - We have a new Cloud Evangelist, sent him a mail introducing myself.
[16:16] <jcastro> https://twitter.com/#!/kylemacdonald is the guy
[16:16] <jcastro> questions?
[16:17] <jono> any questions for jcastro?
[16:18] <jono> alrighty
[16:18] <jono> I am up next
[16:18] <jono>  * Off for a few days with thanksgiving, so less this week than usual.
[16:18] <jono> happy holidays everyone!
[16:18] <jono>  * Finalized 12.04 team metrics - everyone's is in place now.
[16:18] <jono> thanks to the team for getting these finalized
[16:19] <jono>  * Now that the BPs, metrics, and plans are in place, properly kicked off 12.04 with the team, everyone is in good shape. Burndown is rocking.
[16:19] <jono>  * Synced up with Mark re. Juju. Jorge is making good progress, charms growth is happening. Projections this cycle look positive.
[16:19] <jono>  * Interviewing this last week for the QA Community Coordinator role. I hope to have a candidate finalized over the next week.
[16:20] <jono> this is my top priority right now, I need this role filled for the 12.04 cycle
[16:20] <jono>  * Synced up with some teams, re-reviewed UDS content, and released a stack of blog entries providing updates for the community.
[16:20] <jono> more blog entries to come
[16:20] <jono>  * Prepping for the Qt Dev Days keynote I am doing tomorrow.
[16:21] <jono> this talk will be discussing the future of how Ubuntu and Qt will work together
[16:21] <jono>  * Did some ARB assessments, asked dholbach and dpm to provide some support for the board.
[16:21] <jono> thanks to dholbach and dpm for your contributions here - I think you can really provide some great help to the board
[16:21] <jono> an help the ARB to be successful
[16:21] <jono>  * Finalized team travel for the rally events in Jan.
[16:22] <jono> dpm, dholbach, jcastro btw, I will be leaving for another team sprint in Vienna the Sat after the rally, will be flying back on the Tues
[16:22] <jono>  * Approved swap days / expenses. Still need to file my own. Sigh.
[16:23] <jono>  * Also, outside of work: announced the Community Leadership Summit (14th - 15th July 2012) and finished the Severed Fifth album \m/
[16:23] <jono> and that is it from me
[16:23] <jono> any questions for me?
[16:23] <jcastro> anyone else from ubuntu going to Qt Dev Days?
[16:23] <jono> jcastro, I know dpitkin is, but I am not sure if anyone else is
[16:23] <alourie> jono: can I pm you?
[16:23] <dholbach> jcastro, mvo mentioned to me on the phone that david pitkin....
[16:24] <jono> alourie, sure
[16:24] <dholbach> jono beat me to it :)
[16:24] <jcastro> ok
[16:24] <jcastro> jono: I am confused on the sprint
[16:24] <jono> dholbach, :-)
[16:24] <jono> jcastro, confused about what?
[16:24] <jcastro> does that mean you get to the platform sprint on tuesday?
[16:24] <jono> jcastro, no, I will arrive the Sun like everyone else
[16:24] <jono> and then I will do the week rally in Budapest
[16:24] <jcastro> oh, tuesday after.
[16:25] <jono> and then on the Sat after the rally, Mark is organizing a "mgmt retreat" in Vienna
[16:25] <bkerensa> :D
[16:25] <jcastro> hahah
[16:25] <jcastro> man, have a good time
[16:25] <jono> ;-)
[16:25] <jono> heh
[16:25] <jono> yeah, it should be fine
[16:25] <jono> it will be all caviar and smoking jackets
[16:26] <jcastro> I was thinking more like hot tub time machine
[16:26] <jono> haha
[16:26] <jcastro> but ok
[16:26] <jono> yeah, this is mainly to help solidify some of the new mgrs
[16:26] <jono> and then I am there until Tues the following week and then I fly back
[16:26] <jono> so I will be back at work like normal on Wed
[16:27] <alourie> jono: I though all this is normal
[16:27] <jono> alourie, what is?
[16:27] <alourie> so back to what? :-D
[16:27] <alourie> all this flying over to parties
[16:27] <mhall119> heh, parties, right
[16:27] <mhall119> nothing says "fun" like 12 hours flying couch
[16:28] <dholbach> jono, your "this is how our team works" posts are not working
[16:28] <jono> alourie, yeah, they are definitely not parties
[16:28] <jono> dholbach, heh
[16:28] <alourie> jono: sure
[16:29] <jono> :-)
[16:29] <jono> any topics?
[16:30] <dpm> I'm all set
[16:30] <jono> cool
[16:30] <jono> thanks, folks!
[16:30] <jono> #endmeeting
[16:30] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Nov 29 16:30:25 2011 UTC.
[16:30] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-community-team/2011/ubuntu-community-team.2011-11-29-16.01.moin.txt
[16:30] <jono> dholbach, give me a few mins
[16:30] <jono> and then we can sync up
[16:30] <scott-work> good morning :)
[16:30] <MooDoo> awesome, so that's how you guys roll :D
[16:30] <jcastro> now that the bot is done, PARTY!
[16:30] <jono> in the meantime, enjoy http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6039/6390074913_72823caef3_z.jpg
[16:30] <jono> MooDoo, heh
[16:30] <jono> hey scott-work :-)
[16:31] <jcastro> hey jono
[16:31]  * dpm hugs jono
[16:31] <jcastro> http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvaqguHnqo1qb5bmy.jpg
[16:31] <scott-work> hiya jono , working on another album i read...cool deal
[16:31] <jcastro> :) :) :)
[16:31] <bkerensa> jono: You must let us know if they actually make vienna sausages in vienna :D
[16:31] <scott-work> doctormon: i hear you are interested in some artwork for ubuntu studio
[16:31] <scott-work> doctormon: i'll be working up a spec this weekend hopefully
[16:32] <dholbach> alourie, this is probably more what it's like: http://bit.ly/gHdCyz
[16:33] <jcastro> dholbach: haha that is awesome
[16:33] <jcastro> that's our new mascot
[16:33] <jono> scott-work, finished much of it last night
[16:33] <jono> :-)
[16:33] <alourie> dholbach: I think it's what jono tells you all :-)
[16:33] <jono> it is sounding pretty rocking!
[16:33] <jcastro> the four donkeys on a millstone of the apocalypse
[16:33] <bkerensa> jono: I think we should have the Deb/Ubuntu combined jam in Ubuntu Devel News on Thursday if you want to plug that
[16:34] <jcastro> dholbach: here you go: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_c4lzk84-Q5U/S_MZB0_tV2I/AAAAAAAAASM/dM18eyQS5kw/s1600/wheel_of_pain.jpg
[16:34] <scott-work> jono: i'm starting to build towards an album myself, one song sent for mixing and mastering, another one starting writing now
[16:35] <dholbach> jcastro, where did you get that from? :)
[16:35] <jcastro> dholbach: it's from Conan
[16:35] <alourie> the original one
[16:36] <bkerensa> scott-work: Have you heard FOSS Yeaaaah! ?
[16:37] <scott-work> bkerensa: no, what is it?
[16:37] <bkerensa> a song I made four days ago about Ubuntu, Unity, Gnome and a small exodus to Linux Mint
[16:37] <bkerensa> :D
[16:37] <bkerensa> http://soundcloud.com/bkerensa/foss-yeaaaah
[16:37] <bkerensa> 5k plays in under a week :D
[16:39] <scott-work> jono: i wanted to ask you who payed the leads for the last album, was that you or jim
[16:39] <scott-work> bkerensa: i'll defintely check that out
[16:39] <jono> scott-work, we both did
[16:39] <technoviking> what does on-file mean on the Canonical job applicant status
[16:39] <doctormon> bkerensa: foss-yeaaah, is that the song about: "Please move to Debian, Mint or Fedora, they also solve bug #1"?
[16:39] <scott-work> i thought the leads and song structure on the second album were far more mature and expansive
[16:39] <ubot2> doctormon: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 (Not reporting large bug)
[16:40] <scott-work> jono: i thought the leads and song structure on the second album were far more mature and expansive
[16:41] <mhall119> bkerensa: nice
[16:41] <jcastro> anyone have any more questions for me before I head to lunch?
[16:41] <bkerensa> doctormon: Oh no :) that will be saved for another album :D
[16:44] <jcastro> dholbach: you will be proud of me
[16:44] <jcastro> I am having a salad!
[16:45] <dholbach> jcastro, oh wow - what happened? I thought you were afraid of everything that's green
[16:45] <dholbach> jcastro, or hang on - is it a meat salad or something? ;-)
[16:45] <jcastro> I am not
[16:45] <jcastro> as long as I put meat on top of it
[16:45] <mhall119> taco salad?
[16:45] <dholbach> :)
[16:46] <bkerensa> fruit salad?
[16:46] <mhall119> yummy yummy
[16:47] <jono> sorry dholbach, I had to sort some internal stuff out
[16:47] <jono> grabbing my headset and then will call
[16:48] <dholbach> ok
[16:54] <jcastro> popey: "Told you so." ftw.
[16:58] <akgraner> scott-work, you do realize you used jono AND mature and expansive in the same sentence - I had to read that twice...
[17:11] <MooDoo> does that mean he's old n fat? ;)
[17:11] <MooDoo> jcastro: son't tell me apple + ubuntu :)
[17:14] <jono> thanks scott-work - this release is a pro recording of the second album
[17:17] <technoviking> MooDoo: old and fat, stop talking about me:)
[17:18] <MooDoo> technoviking: me as well :D lol
[17:42] <dholbach> time to call it a day - see you all tomorrow
[17:43] <nigelb> g'nite dholbach
[17:54] <czajkowski> head_victim: *ping*
[17:55]  * nigelb notes its probably late for him.
[17:56] <czajkowski> possibly
[18:00] <scott-work> akgraner: lol, yeah i know :)
[18:01] <scott-work> jono: oh good!  i thought that had fallen through since i hadn't read about it for a while, i'm curious to hear the difference between the two
[18:49] <jcastro> popey: now engadget is toting the DW stats
[18:51] <popey> jcastro: where?
[18:53] <maco> Debian Women? Dreamwidth?
[18:53] <maco> oh, distrowatch
[19:02] <AlanBell> I think it is tech media silly season
[19:03] <czajkowski> AlanBell: great another day of it in my RSS feeds :/
[19:05] <jcastro> popey: I think it's because you're a paid canonical podcaster now
[19:05] <jcastro> I mean ....
[19:06] <jcastro> :)
[19:06] <popey> hah
[19:07] <technoviking> popey: corporate shill :)
[19:07] <jcastro> my transformer gets here today!
[19:08] <technoviking> Optimus Prime or Jazz?
[19:09] <jcastro> the first one
[19:09] <jcastro> I don't think he has a name
[19:09] <jcastro> the one that is cheaper now thanks to the PRIME.
[19:09] <jcastro> I'm going to crank "You've got the touch!" when I open it.
[19:09]  * AlanBell is waiting for the prime
[19:10] <AlanBell> if there is an ubuntu image for it
[19:10] <technoviking> got Alex (my son) a Pocket Ref for Christmas:)
[19:18] <scott-work> jono: sorry, i lost connection after my comment about a possible differenc e in the pro-recorded version
[19:18] <scott-work> jono: so if you made a comment i didn't catch it
[19:19]  * scott-work has problems with webchat some days just loosing connection and hanging there
[19:42] <jcastro> jono: ok dumb question
[19:42] <jcastro> we still have our team call tomorrow right?
[19:43] <jono> jcastro, nope
[19:43] <jono> we do IRC meetings now, and I am going to schedule an addition G+ hangout
[19:44] <jcastro> ok that's what was confusing me
[19:44] <jcastro> I thought it was in addition to
[19:44] <jcastro> so we could say things in public, and then in private be like "God, I hate popey don't you?"
[19:44] <jcastro> "I know right"
[19:45] <jono> lol
[19:53]  * popey waits until his 3 month probation is over before filing a grievance against jcastro with HR
[19:54] <jcastro> \o/
[20:06] <scott-work> jono: when is the 2nd edition of 'art of community' coming out?  i want to order it for my tablet and need  a new book, should i get the 1st edition or wait?
[20:28] <doctormon> scott-work: What format of ebooks do you read?
[20:28] <scott-work> doctormon: whatever i get from the android market for my xoom
[20:29] <doctormon> Cool, I'm making epub and mobis today.
[20:33] <head_victim> czajkowski: pong
[21:11]  * scott-work grumbles again about webchat
[21:11] <scott-work> jono: did you say if "art of community" 2nd edition is coming soon or should i buy the 1st edition?
[21:12] <jono> sorry scott-work, was on a call
[21:12] <jono> scott-work, I recommend you download the first edition but buy the second ed :-)
[21:12] <scott-work> oh good , because it's one of those days where webchat has dropped me several times :/
[21:12] <jono> no worries!
[21:12] <scott-work> jono: lol
[21:50] <jono> jcastro, around?