[00:05] yikes [00:05] you broke something [00:11] =/ [02:29] hi [02:36] hi [02:37] ih [08:07] good morning [08:15] Good morning dholbach [08:15] hi nigelb [08:18] Aww, no dpm yet. [08:19] :) [08:20] Hey dpm, have you seen http://horv.at/blog/easy-access-to-subpages/ yet? :) [08:30] nigelb, I hadn't, looks very interesting, thanks! [08:31] dpm: The demo is *amazing*. I'm blown away :) === huats_ is now known as huats [08:43] good morning [08:45] good morning alourie! feeling better today? [08:48] Hey jussi [08:52] jussi email!! [08:55] jussi: yes [08:55] feeling fine :-) [08:55] thanks [09:05] morning all [09:27] morning [09:28] czajkowski: done! [09:34] jussi: moderated [09:34] jussi: thanks [09:35] how is everyone this morning? [10:59] dholbach: ;) The Ubuntu Design police contacted me :P [10:59] bkerensa, eh? [10:59] yeah idk very odd [11:00] someone at Canonical who is on the Ubuntu Design Team pm'ed me and asked me to take down the old ubuntu logo from my post about the Ubuntu/Debian jam [11:00] and to replace it with the newer guideline logo :P [11:00] maybe you can ask for some help? :) [11:00] lol [11:01] Well I just updated it but the convo was a surprise because I didn't think it was enforced so quickly and heavily :P [11:01] lol now you do :D [11:01] bkerensa, if it came across as policing and enforcing, I'd mention that to the person [11:02] yeah [13:43] highvoltage: nice blog post [13:48] thanks czajkowski [13:57] highvoltage: linky? [14:32] late late late late lunch [14:35] dholbach: if you don't eat now you never will :) [14:51] jussi: you're missing from locoteams [15:17] doctormon: /w 30 [15:17] gah, I hate this lag [15:18] doctormon: I assume she meant http://jonathancarter.org/2011/11/29/principles/ which is indeed a nice post [15:18] mhall119: did you read my comment on that post? [15:21] I didn't see comments onti... [15:38] MooDoo, it really was necessary to have something now :) [15:38] L( [15:38] :) [15:41] food glorious food [15:41] had a great vegetarian burger - life is good again [15:42] i'm not a vegetarian, but i so like smoked tofu :D [15:43] yeah, it was a different kind of burger, no tofu, but still good :) [15:43] <3 hippie food ;-) [15:43] hehe [16:00] hey jono [16:00] dpm, dholbach, jcastro ok [16:00] let's get this party started [16:00] morning jono [16:00] hey dholbach, dpm [16:01] dholbach, dpm, jcastro all set for the meeting? [16:01] ready to roll [16:01] * dholbach is [16:01] #startmeeting [16:01] Meeting started Tue Nov 29 16:01:31 2011 UTC. The chair is jono. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. [16:01] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [16:02] #meetingtopic daniel roundtable === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-community-team to: "Work Items: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-community.html || Community Trello: http://goo.gl/n4or5 (experiment) || Things to work on (in order): OpenWeek, UDS prep, WI's, Blueprints for UDS || dholbach's channel: http://goo.gl/9xNTd || dpm's channel: http://goo.gl/o2IR5" | daniel roundtable Meeting | Current topic: [16:02] oops [16:02] here's what I did since last time [16:02] #meetingtopic Canonical Community Team meeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-community-team to: "Work Items: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-community.html || Community Trello: http://goo.gl/n4or5 (experiment) || Things to work on (in order): OpenWeek, UDS prep, WI's, Blueprints for UDS || dholbach's channel: http://goo.gl/9xNTd || dpm's channel: http://goo.gl/o2IR5" | Canonical Community Team meeting Meeting | Current topic: [16:02] bah sorry [16:02] shoot dholbach [16:02] - CC: added Canonical Blog to Planet Ubuntu, LoCo Council restaffing, team call, organisational bits. [16:02] internet connection, I am here! [16:02] - ARB: call with David, analysis of open items in the queue, some discussion about how to speed up the process. [16:03] - Ubuntu development news: more team organisation, posted another update, planned meetings (one for AU folks, one for US folks), documented news sources/process. [16:03] - IRC Team: reviewed survey summary, started planning election. [16:03] - Patch Pilot: set up schedule for Dec/Jan. [16:03] - Admin: took remaining holidays (8.12. - 14.12.). :-D [16:04] - Dev docs: more clarification about app dev vs. platform dev. [16:04] - dev advisory team: put more work into making data semi-public, still some way to go. apart from that, the team is set up and ready to announce. [16:04] - Interviewed somebody for the QA role. [16:04] Done. [16:04] cool [16:04] thanks dholbach [16:04] any questions for daniel? [16:05] alrighty [16:06] the man... [16:06] ...with the plan... [16:06] ...the legend... [16:06] ...dpm! [16:06] allright, here I go... :) [16:06] I hope I live up to the expectations... [16:06] • Re-launched this cycle's biweekly translations meetings, set up a calendar schedule [16:06] ∘ Log: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Meetings/2011-11-24 [16:06] heh [16:07] • Spent some time writing a set of scripts to automate some translations tasks as discussed in the translations meeting, published them as ubuntu-l10n-tools in a PPA with daily builds enabled [16:07] ∘ https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-translations-coordinators/+archive/ppa [16:07] • Had a chat with dholbach on stats and started writing a couple of scripts for some App Developer growth metrics [16:07] dpm, how could you not.... (live up to the expectations)? ... http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6039/6390074913_72823caef3_z.jpg [16:08] there I outlived the expectations, yeah ;) [16:08] dholbach, lol [16:08] * dpm takes off the 'tache [16:09] lolzees [16:09] • Had another chat with dholbach on how the community team can help the ARB [16:09] * dholbach hugs dpm [16:09] * dpm hugs back [16:09] • And yet another chat with cproffit regarding Ubuntu App Development in Education [16:10] • Admin: Finally got round to book the Ubuntu Engineering Rally flights [16:10] I think these were the relevant bits [16:10] thanks dpm [16:10] any questions for dpm? [16:11] no questions, just a statement [16:11] your hair looks amazing today [16:11] lol [16:11] hahaha [16:11] he does have awesome hair [16:12] when I think of dpm all I hear is wakka wakka guitar playing [16:12] * dpm lols [16:12] alrighty... [16:12] ...the unstoppable force... [16:12] ...for good and evil... [16:12] ...jcastro! [16:13] (mostly evil) [16:13] (trumpet blare) [16:13] I still can't believe you met Nicko [16:13] - Sorted office hours for the juju team. [16:13] - Charm School this Friday, 1500UTC in #juju, BE THERE. [16:13] should be fun! [16:13] - Some great incoming charms this week from our contributors, Teamspeak, Thinkup, and Apache FTP. (More coming in the pipe like status.net and phpmyadmin) [16:13] - Finishing up planning for SCALE Charm School, mostly done. [16:13] we have an entire room available to us on Friday for the charm school [16:13] but we'll likely not use it the whole day [16:14] - Talked to cjohnston about a summit sprint, Jono I need a quick call (5 min) to brief you on this, I forgot to mention it during our call. [16:14] - Various Charm workflow fixes, Wiki tweakage, review tweakage. [16:14] - Met Nicko McBrain, drummer for Iron Maiden. No luck trying to get him to write a juju charm, or if he knows what Ubuntu even is. Next time. [16:14] - mmims has been kept pretty busy with the new contributors, aww yeah. [16:14] jcastro, np [16:14] mims is pretty much crushed the past few days [16:14] I consider this good. [16:14] My hand wavy estimate is after this charm school we should see more peer/peer reviews rather than everyone wailing on mims [16:15] - Hashed out some ideas with Kapil for rendering READMEs on the charm store so people can have instructions on how to use their charms [16:15] - Proposed some ideas for "snippets" for charms, marco made a prototype and Clint is improving the charm tools for this so charm authors aren't reimplementing the same things. [16:15] the tldr; is the charm browser will render a readme like github does [16:15] we're still bikeshedding snippets, but the tldr there is to make them functions in charm-tools [16:15] nice! [16:16] so you can reuse a snippet like "get a tarball from this place and make sure it's hashed" [16:16] instead of everyone writing their own [16:16] - Got annoyed by the stupid mysql interface, convinced Clint it was a bug and Marco fixed it. :) [16:16] - We have a new Cloud Evangelist, sent him a mail introducing myself. [16:16] https://twitter.com/#!/kylemacdonald is the guy [16:16] questions? [16:17] any questions for jcastro? [16:18] alrighty [16:18] I am up next [16:18] * Off for a few days with thanksgiving, so less this week than usual. [16:18] happy holidays everyone! [16:18] * Finalized 12.04 team metrics - everyone's is in place now. [16:18] thanks to the team for getting these finalized [16:19] * Now that the BPs, metrics, and plans are in place, properly kicked off 12.04 with the team, everyone is in good shape. Burndown is rocking. [16:19] * Synced up with Mark re. Juju. Jorge is making good progress, charms growth is happening. Projections this cycle look positive. [16:19] * Interviewing this last week for the QA Community Coordinator role. I hope to have a candidate finalized over the next week. [16:20] this is my top priority right now, I need this role filled for the 12.04 cycle [16:20] * Synced up with some teams, re-reviewed UDS content, and released a stack of blog entries providing updates for the community. [16:20] more blog entries to come [16:20] * Prepping for the Qt Dev Days keynote I am doing tomorrow. [16:21] this talk will be discussing the future of how Ubuntu and Qt will work together [16:21] * Did some ARB assessments, asked dholbach and dpm to provide some support for the board. [16:21] thanks to dholbach and dpm for your contributions here - I think you can really provide some great help to the board [16:21] an help the ARB to be successful [16:21] * Finalized team travel for the rally events in Jan. [16:22] dpm, dholbach, jcastro btw, I will be leaving for another team sprint in Vienna the Sat after the rally, will be flying back on the Tues [16:22] * Approved swap days / expenses. Still need to file my own. Sigh. [16:23] * Also, outside of work: announced the Community Leadership Summit (14th - 15th July 2012) and finished the Severed Fifth album \m/ [16:23] and that is it from me [16:23] any questions for me? [16:23] anyone else from ubuntu going to Qt Dev Days? [16:23] jcastro, I know dpitkin is, but I am not sure if anyone else is [16:23] jono: can I pm you? [16:23] jcastro, mvo mentioned to me on the phone that david pitkin.... [16:24] alourie, sure [16:24] jono beat me to it :) [16:24] ok [16:24] jono: I am confused on the sprint [16:24] dholbach, :-) [16:24] jcastro, confused about what? [16:24] does that mean you get to the platform sprint on tuesday? [16:24] jcastro, no, I will arrive the Sun like everyone else [16:24] and then I will do the week rally in Budapest [16:24] oh, tuesday after. [16:25] and then on the Sat after the rally, Mark is organizing a "mgmt retreat" in Vienna [16:25] :D [16:25] hahah [16:25] man, have a good time [16:25] ;-) [16:25] heh [16:25] yeah, it should be fine [16:25] it will be all caviar and smoking jackets [16:26] I was thinking more like hot tub time machine [16:26] haha [16:26] but ok [16:26] yeah, this is mainly to help solidify some of the new mgrs [16:26] and then I am there until Tues the following week and then I fly back [16:26] so I will be back at work like normal on Wed [16:27] jono: I though all this is normal [16:27] alourie, what is? [16:27] so back to what? :-D [16:27] all this flying over to parties [16:27] heh, parties, right [16:27] nothing says "fun" like 12 hours flying couch [16:28] jono, your "this is how our team works" posts are not working [16:28] alourie, yeah, they are definitely not parties [16:28] dholbach, heh [16:28] jono: sure [16:29] :-) [16:29] any topics? [16:30] I'm all set [16:30] cool [16:30] thanks, folks! [16:30] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-community-team to: "Work Items: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-community.html || Community Trello: http://goo.gl/n4or5 (experiment) || Things to work on (in order): OpenWeek, UDS prep, WI's, Blueprints for UDS || dholbach's channel: http://goo.gl/9xNTd || dpm's channel: http://goo.gl/o2IR5" [16:30] Meeting ended Tue Nov 29 16:30:25 2011 UTC. [16:30] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-community-team/2011/ubuntu-community-team.2011-11-29-16.01.moin.txt [16:30] dholbach, give me a few mins [16:30] and then we can sync up [16:30] good morning :) [16:30] awesome, so that's how you guys roll :D [16:30] now that the bot is done, PARTY! [16:30] in the meantime, enjoy http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6039/6390074913_72823caef3_z.jpg [16:30] MooDoo, heh [16:30] hey scott-work :-) [16:31] hey jono [16:31] * dpm hugs jono [16:31] http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvaqguHnqo1qb5bmy.jpg [16:31] hiya jono , working on another album i read...cool deal [16:31] :) :) :) [16:31] jono: You must let us know if they actually make vienna sausages in vienna :D [16:31] doctormon: i hear you are interested in some artwork for ubuntu studio [16:31] doctormon: i'll be working up a spec this weekend hopefully [16:32] alourie, this is probably more what it's like: http://bit.ly/gHdCyz [16:33] dholbach: haha that is awesome [16:33] that's our new mascot [16:33] scott-work, finished much of it last night [16:33] :-) [16:33] dholbach: I think it's what jono tells you all :-) [16:33] it is sounding pretty rocking! [16:33] the four donkeys on a millstone of the apocalypse [16:33] jono: I think we should have the Deb/Ubuntu combined jam in Ubuntu Devel News on Thursday if you want to plug that [16:34] dholbach: here you go: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_c4lzk84-Q5U/S_MZB0_tV2I/AAAAAAAAASM/dM18eyQS5kw/s1600/wheel_of_pain.jpg [16:34] jono: i'm starting to build towards an album myself, one song sent for mixing and mastering, another one starting writing now [16:35] jcastro, where did you get that from? :) [16:35] dholbach: it's from Conan [16:35] the original one [16:36] scott-work: Have you heard FOSS Yeaaaah! ? [16:37] bkerensa: no, what is it? [16:37] a song I made four days ago about Ubuntu, Unity, Gnome and a small exodus to Linux Mint [16:37] :D [16:37] http://soundcloud.com/bkerensa/foss-yeaaaah [16:37] 5k plays in under a week :D [16:39] jono: i wanted to ask you who payed the leads for the last album, was that you or jim [16:39] bkerensa: i'll defintely check that out [16:39] scott-work, we both did [16:39] what does on-file mean on the Canonical job applicant status [16:39] bkerensa: foss-yeaaah, is that the song about: "Please move to Debian, Mint or Fedora, they also solve bug #1"? [16:39] i thought the leads and song structure on the second album were far more mature and expansive [16:39] doctormon: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 (Not reporting large bug) [16:40] jono: i thought the leads and song structure on the second album were far more mature and expansive [16:41] bkerensa: nice [16:41] anyone have any more questions for me before I head to lunch? [16:41] doctormon: Oh no :) that will be saved for another album :D [16:44] dholbach: you will be proud of me [16:44] I am having a salad! [16:45] jcastro, oh wow - what happened? I thought you were afraid of everything that's green [16:45] jcastro, or hang on - is it a meat salad or something? ;-) [16:45] I am not [16:45] as long as I put meat on top of it [16:45] taco salad? [16:45] :) [16:46] fruit salad? [16:46] yummy yummy [16:47] sorry dholbach, I had to sort some internal stuff out [16:47] grabbing my headset and then will call [16:48] ok [16:54] popey: "Told you so." ftw. [16:58] scott-work, you do realize you used jono AND mature and expansive in the same sentence - I had to read that twice... [17:11] does that mean he's old n fat? ;) [17:11] jcastro: son't tell me apple + ubuntu :) [17:14] thanks scott-work - this release is a pro recording of the second album [17:17] MooDoo: old and fat, stop talking about me:) [17:18] technoviking: me as well :D lol [17:42] time to call it a day - see you all tomorrow [17:43] g'nite dholbach [17:54] head_victim: *ping* [17:55] * nigelb notes its probably late for him. [17:56] possibly [18:00] akgraner: lol, yeah i know :) [18:01] jono: oh good! i thought that had fallen through since i hadn't read about it for a while, i'm curious to hear the difference between the two [18:49] popey: now engadget is toting the DW stats [18:51] jcastro: where? [18:53] Debian Women? Dreamwidth? [18:53] oh, distrowatch [19:02] I think it is tech media silly season [19:03] AlanBell: great another day of it in my RSS feeds :/ [19:05] popey: I think it's because you're a paid canonical podcaster now [19:05] I mean .... [19:06] :) [19:06] hah [19:07] popey: corporate shill :) [19:07] my transformer gets here today! [19:08] Optimus Prime or Jazz? [19:09] the first one [19:09] I don't think he has a name [19:09] the one that is cheaper now thanks to the PRIME. [19:09] I'm going to crank "You've got the touch!" when I open it. [19:09] * AlanBell is waiting for the prime [19:10] if there is an ubuntu image for it [19:10] got Alex (my son) a Pocket Ref for Christmas:) [19:18] jono: sorry, i lost connection after my comment about a possible differenc e in the pro-recorded version [19:18] jono: so if you made a comment i didn't catch it [19:19] * scott-work has problems with webchat some days just loosing connection and hanging there [19:42] jono: ok dumb question [19:42] we still have our team call tomorrow right? [19:43] jcastro, nope [19:43] we do IRC meetings now, and I am going to schedule an addition G+ hangout [19:44] ok that's what was confusing me [19:44] I thought it was in addition to [19:44] so we could say things in public, and then in private be like "God, I hate popey don't you?" [19:44] "I know right" [19:45] lol [19:53] * popey waits until his 3 month probation is over before filing a grievance against jcastro with HR [19:54] \o/ [20:06] jono: when is the 2nd edition of 'art of community' coming out? i want to order it for my tablet and need a new book, should i get the 1st edition or wait? [20:28] scott-work: What format of ebooks do you read? [20:28] doctormon: whatever i get from the android market for my xoom [20:29] Cool, I'm making epub and mobis today. [20:33] czajkowski: pong [21:11] * scott-work grumbles again about webchat [21:11] jono: did you say if "art of community" 2nd edition is coming soon or should i buy the 1st edition? [21:12] sorry scott-work, was on a call [21:12] scott-work, I recommend you download the first edition but buy the second ed :-) [21:12] oh good , because it's one of those days where webchat has dropped me several times :/ [21:12] no worries! [21:12] jono: lol [21:50] jcastro, around?