[08:07] <dholbach> good morning
[08:53] <sladen> morning
[08:54] <thorwil> morning
[08:54] <sladen> guten morgen
[08:57] <mainerror> Guten morgen sladen. :D
[08:58] <mainerror> doctormon: Must be something with their servers. It was never slow for me.
[09:54] <CrazyThinker> Was anyone here responsible for unity interface?
[10:03] <AlanBell> hi CrazyThinker
[10:03] <CrazyThinker> Hello AlanBell
[10:04] <mainerror> AlanBell is the Ubuntu TV design. hehe
[10:05] <AlanBell> so the media would have you believe
[10:06] <mainerror> Kinda funny what a picture can do.
[10:06] <CrazyThinker> What picture?
[10:06] <AlanBell> I was mucking about with a sketching tool
[10:07] <AlanBell> with the objective of helping designers use free tools
[10:07] <AlanBell> and my random doodlings got picked up by OMG and the Register
[10:07] <AlanBell> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/ubuntu-smart-tv-discussions-begin-to-warm-up
[10:08] <AlanBell> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/28/ubuntu_tv/
[10:08] <mainerror> Aw crap! The meeting is tomorrow 17 UTC?
[10:09] <AlanBell> http://ostatic.com/blog/work-is-underway-on-ubuntu-tv-with-mark-shuttleworth-watching argh
[10:10] <mainerror> They use the old logo!
[10:14] <AlanBell> fun seeing mistakes propogating in the media
[10:14] <AlanBell> it is a 10 foot user interface
[10:14] <AlanBell> the register said inches (because in the UK nobody knows what ' and " mean)
[10:15] <AlanBell> and the 10 inch user interface is propogating with journalists having *no clue* what they are writing about
[10:23] <mainerror> heh
[10:35] <AlanBell> czajkowski: if the H pick it up, please don't have a 10 inch UI!
[10:35] <mainerror> :D
[12:57] <mhall119> lol
[13:25] <doctormon> CrazyThinker: nope
[13:26] <doctormon> wendar: thanks for sorting out the meeting time
[13:27] <doctormon> Everyone: Wednesdays, 15:00 UTC (12pm EST), that's tomorrow
[13:54] <AlanBell> doctormon: 1700 UTC
[13:56] <doctormon> Thanks AlanBell
[13:56] <doctormon> hows tv land?
[13:57] <AlanBell> funny
[14:01] <AlanBell> http://www.clubic.com/linux-os/debian/ubuntu/actualite-461456-systeme-ubuntu.html
[14:01] <AlanBell> http://www.pcinpact.com/news/67315-ubuntu-tv-projet-evolution-shuttleworth.htm?vc=1
[14:03] <YannDinendal> You read French news?
[14:03] <AlanBell> no, but google does
[14:03] <AlanBell> I can read the articles, but I found them via google
[14:04] <AlanBell> and I did use Google translate but only because I am lazy
[14:04] <AlanBell> I am a little embarrassed by all this lot
[14:06] <nuthinking> hey guys, does anyone know who admins brainstorm.ubuntu.com ?
[14:07] <YannDinendal> AlanBell: it is not the first time tech news report early concepts/discussions as if it were official/decided...
[14:07] <YannDinendal> :/
[14:09] <AlanBell> three storyboards now https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTV/Designs
[14:09] <AlanBell> If I knew the press would pick it up I would have done my first one a lot better
[14:10] <YannDinendal> :)
[14:10] <AlanBell> I have a plan for adding comment threads to the storyboards
[14:11] <AlanBell> using http://www.intensedebate.com which is a bit like disqus
[14:16] <AlanBell> I read a great paper yesterday by Marin Duffy
[14:17] <AlanBell> http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/04/06/contributing-to-free-open-source-software-as-a-designer/
[14:20] <AlanBell> Máirín Duffy even
[15:18] <doctormon> AlanBell: MO lives in Boston, here abouts. We've worked on some stuff before.
[16:52] <mhall119> AlanBell: I want to play with some uTV mockups, how do I get started?
[16:52]  * mhall119 already has Pencil
[17:14] <AlanBell> cool mhall119
[17:15] <AlanBell> http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/unitytelly/pencilfiles/ help yourself
[17:15] <AlanBell> the base design frame gives you a TV and 16:9 image on it
[17:16] <AlanBell> concept1.ep is my storyboard
[17:19] <AlanBell> the ubuntu.zip is an export template
[17:20] <mhall119> AlanBell: sweet, thanks
[17:21] <AlanBell> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTV/Designs
[17:23] <mhall119> cool,thanks AlanBell
[17:24]  * imnichol is away: I'm busy
[17:27]  * imnichol is back (gone 00:03:16)
[17:52] <sladen> btw, I just filed:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/897796  if people can suggestion solutions
[17:52] <webbugs> Launchpad bug 897796 in Ayatana Design "Dash search sub-optimal: search for "The #1 Linux distribution" does not return expected result" [Undecided,New]
[17:59] <mhall119> AlanBell: any idea how to export widget sets from Pencil?
[18:13] <AlanBell> export??
[18:14] <AlanBell> do you mean import?
[18:14] <AlanBell> or stuff done with the stencil generator thing?
[18:15] <AlanBell> either way, I have no idea, but I was looking at the file format for stencil collections
[18:15] <mhall119> AlanBell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~mhall119/utv/ see if you can import the Unity.zip collection
[18:15] <mhall119> btw, an extensive collection of Unity widgets for Pencil is something that would be great for all kinds of mockups
[18:16] <AlanBell> no
[18:16] <AlanBell> yes, I would love to have a widget for a lens, or ubuntu themed window or something
[18:16] <AlanBell> Error Installing Collection
[18:17] <mhall119> :/
[18:17] <AlanBell> Collection specification is not found in the archive. The file may be corrupted.
[18:17] <doctormon> AlanBell, mhall119: If the format is svg, can you guys pass me the raw?
[18:17] <mhall119> what version of pencil are you using?
[18:17] <AlanBell> doctormon: is is SVG with some wrapper metadata
[18:18] <mhall119> doctormon: the widget collection is an XML
[18:18] <doctormon> Great, publish the svg too
[18:18] <AlanBell> mhall119: 1.3.2 installed today
[18:18] <mhall119> the one I'm working on has embedded bitmap data from the unity pngs
[18:18] <mhall119> AlanBell: ah, I have 1.2, probably need to upgrade
[18:19] <mhall119> aw, 1.3 isn't available as standalone
[19:55] <doctormon> mhall119: Embeded images?
[20:12] <mhall119> doctormon: it encodes the data and puts that in the XML
[20:19] <doctormon> mhall119: I see, a base64 encoding like in svg?
[20:26] <AlanBell> yeah
[20:26] <mhall119> doctormon: probably because I brought in bitmapped images, rather than SVGs
[20:27] <AlanBell> I think it does both
[20:27] <doctormon> It's just the same way svg works, I'm guessing it's all centered around it.
[20:27] <doctormon> AlanBell: Does it generate multiple svg files perk work flow item?
[20:28] <AlanBell> http://pencil.evolus.vn/en-US/DevGuides/DevGuideDetail.aspx?DocumentPath=devguide%2fdevguides%2fstencil-collection-structure-and-file-format
[20:30] <AlanBell> the properties and behaviours stuff can do things like turning on and off the window buttons on the window template
[20:46] <mainerror> Great ... I lost my backlog.
[20:46] <jderose> i just did a screencast that demos what i tried to show in the design theater session at UDS but couldn't get working - http://vimeo.com/groups/novacutartistdiaries/videos/32867613
[21:26] <mmiicc> jderose: is Dmedia something like Rapid Photo Donloader?
[21:27] <jderose> mmiicc: hmm, i'll have to find out what Rapid Photo Downloader is and get back to you :P
[21:27] <jderose> but by the name, it sounds like it has some similar goals
[21:28] <jderose> although the import workflow is a pretty small part of what Dmedia does... the rest is to eliminate file management as much as possible
[21:29] <jderose> mmiicc: hmm, on the import side, sound very similar - http://damonlynch.net/rapid/
[21:29] <jderose> very cool, i'll have to play with it
[21:33] <mmiicc> jderose: :) although RPD imports only photos and videos
[21:34] <jderose> Dmedia imports all files... party so we never ignore important files just because Dmedia doesn't grok them
[21:35] <jderose> mmiicc: so have you used Rapid Photo Downloader?
[21:35] <mmiicc> jderose: not so much recently, but I've translated it to Polish
[21:36] <jderose> nice
[21:37] <mmiicc> jderose: creator of RPD is a friendly guy, so if you have any question, I think, you can discus with him :)
[21:37] <jderose> cool
[21:38] <jderose> i'm really happy to see something else like this, and that it's on linux
[21:38] <jderose> windows and osx don't seem to have any good solutions for this, so if we have two... that's awesome :-D
[21:39] <mmiicc> :)
[21:39]  * mmiicc need to go to put kids to bed 
[21:39] <jderose> :)
[22:53] <doctormon> jderose: Any relation to the work I did?
[22:55] <jderose> doctormon: no, that bit isn't... actually, been meaning to talk to you... we should really split that out of dmedia as it's not directly tied to it anway (and shouldn't be)... so it would probably get more use as a standalone project :)
[22:56] <doctormon> jderose: Yeah, it's gotten no use so far, which is a shame.
[22:56] <jderose> yeah :(
[22:56] <jderose> sorry about that
[22:56] <jderose> always is on my list, never seem to quite get to it