=== Ursinha_ is now known as Ursinha === bladernr_afk is now known as bladernr_ === bladernr_ is now known as bladernr_afk === huats_ is now known as huats === doko_ is now known as doko === bladernr_afk is now known as bladernr_ === hyperair is now known as Guest43903 === Amaranth__ is now known as Amaranth === Amaranth__ is now known as Amaranth [15:57] . [15:57] ls [15:57] o/ [15:57] hallyn, . .. [15:58] smb: isn't the filesystem a bit too high for kernel guys? ;) [15:58] lynxman, We talk about anything we do or do not understand :) [15:59] hi ho [15:59] \o [15:59] o/ [15:59] smb: lol [15:59] o/ [16:00] \o [16:00] \o/ [16:01] Ursinha: it's on you :) [16:01] meme [16:01] #startmeeting [16:01] Meeting started Tue Nov 29 16:01:20 2011 UTC. The chair is Ursinha. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. [16:01] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [16:01] hello people, this is the first time I chair this meeting, so be nice to me :) [16:01] #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Review ACTION points from previous meeting [16:01] so, according to last week's logs there is none. [16:02] moving on [16:02] #topic Precise Development === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Precise Development [16:02] boo! [16:02] Daviey: and now.... [16:02] Hello! [16:02] Alpha 1 is out this week, meaning we are in soft freeze [16:03] So far we are looking pretty stable, infact, possibly the most stable Alpha1 we've had for some releases [16:03] I'd like to go through our targetted bugs for this week: [16:03] bug 883988 [16:03] Launchpad bug 883988 in glance (Ubuntu Precise) "package glance 2011.3-0ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/883988 [16:03] zul: Is this impacting upgrades still? [16:03] dont think so [16:04] i havent been able to reproduce it [16:04] zul: We probably need to test oneiric -> precise upgrades to see the situation. [16:04] bug 893926 [16:04] Launchpad bug 893926 in eucalyptus (Ubuntu) "Contains traces of UEC" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/893926 [16:04] Up for grabs, mostly bitesize - removing branding and image-store.. any takers? [16:05] Grab it if you want it. [16:05] bug 881903 [16:05] Launchpad bug 881903 in lxc (Ubuntu) "lxc-fedora template is broken" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/881903 [16:05] hallyn: awaiting new upstream version, do we have an idea when? [16:06] nope [16:06] bug 888124 , jamespage - is this on the soonly roadmap for you, or up for grabs? [16:06] Launchpad bug 888124 in excalibur-logkit (Ubuntu) "excalibur-logkit version 2.0-8 failed to build with openjdk-7" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/888124 [16:06] hm, i think new version was quietly tagged! [16:06] will check it out this afternoon [16:07] bug 607039 , Still up for grabs.. probably requires some time to reproduce. [16:07] Launchpad bug 607039 in nfs-utils (Ubuntu) "NFS4 automount using replicated servers doesn't work" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/607039 [16:07] hallyn: dandy [16:07] oh, nope [16:07] Daviey: on my list [16:07] jamespage: great [16:07] but not mega urgent ATM [16:07] Actually [16:07] bug 894713 , most certainly bitesize.. open to offers, highest bidder? [16:07] Launchpad bug 894713 in xen (Ubuntu) "xend init script should modprobe xen_gntdev" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/894713 [16:07] This is sort of user error but a long way [16:07] Daviey, Sorry that was for the nfs4 bug [16:08] smb: oh? [16:08] alexbligh: does ^^ that one interest you? :) [16:08] Yep. [16:08] We've fixed that here. [16:08] Want a patch? [16:08] smb: right, sorry for moving a bit quick.. trying to get through them.. i don't mind interupting [16:08] Daviey, basically trying to use fstype nfs4 uses mount.nfs4 whch tries to use modprobe nfs4 [16:08] which does not exist [16:08] Daviey, oh, I already sent a patch :-) [16:08] but basically using fstype nfs also gives you an nfs4 mount [16:09] alexbligh: certainly, if you want to provide a debian/changelog entry aswell and a debdiff, we'll get it sponsored quickly :) [16:09] and according to upstream users should be encouraged to use nfs as fstype [16:09] just not that this is told anywhere [16:09] rather the opposite [16:09] alexbligh: if not, we'll JFDI based on your patch [16:09] JFDI would be easier as I'll have to master debdiff etc. first :-) [16:09] smb: Oh great! I didn't know that :) [16:10] Daviey, Just got that answer today [16:10] smb: could i ask that you throw that as a comment on the bug report, and consider marking it invalid? [16:10] alexbligh: sounds good, thanks [16:10] smb: Great! [16:10] bug 833499 , new one to me [16:10] Launchpad bug 833499 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "virt/disk.py unconditionally inserts public_keys into /root/.ssh/authorized_keys" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/833499 [16:10] Daviey, Yes [16:11] smoser: something needs fixing in nova? [16:11] reading up [16:12] generally i think its broken behavior in openstack. but cloud-init un-does their insertion of keys for newer images. [16:12] why did this make your list ? [16:12] bug 889644 , being worked on in Debian.. Wait out on that [16:12] Launchpad bug 889644 in openmpi (Ubuntu) "Please update OpenMPI to the 1.5 upstream version" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/889644 [16:12] bug 887186 [16:12] Launchpad bug 887186 in orchestra (Ubuntu) "squid proxy big and small buckets not functioning correctly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/887186 [16:12] adam_g / RoAkSoAx: is that somethuing you were looking ay? [16:12] at? [16:13] Daviey: thats new to me [16:13] smoser reported it, guess he is chasing it [16:13] i'm not chasing. [16:13] the bug report should be fairly straight forward. [16:13] adam_g: okay, we'll dig into that after the meeting [16:13] basically our squid proxy is not working as designed. [16:14] bug 893134 , zul - fixed in Precise, right? [16:14] Launchpad bug 893134 in swift (Ubuntu) "swauth required for auth in diablo" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/893134 [16:14] yeah uploaded yesterday still waiting for archive admin review [16:14] .. a few cobbler-enlist bugs, blocked on further direction. .. [16:14] zul: bug 871278 ? [16:14] Launchpad bug 871278 in nova (Ubuntu Precise) "Cannot attach volumes to instances if tgt is used" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/871278 [16:14] gah.. [16:15] will get to it this week [16:15] bug 875262 , I think needs a new assignee.. open to offers. [16:15] Launchpad bug 875262 in php5 (Ubuntu Oneiric) "PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/sqlite.so'" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/875262 [16:15] bug 875262 , awaiting clariffication from reporter [16:16] an no, been more update.. Clint isn't here.. I'm sure he'll look at it today [16:16] bug 890362 , zul - next upload? [16:16] Launchpad bug 890362 in nova (Ubuntu) "Should glance user's shell be /bin/false?" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/890362 [16:16] yep [16:16] utlemming: been able to look at bug 891433 ? [16:16] Launchpad bug 891433 in squid3 (Ubuntu) "squid3 miss_access bug, fix not included in LTS" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/891433 [16:17] Daviey: yup, its done, just need to test it [16:17] utlemming: rocking [16:17] bug 894754 [16:17] open to offers [16:17] hallyn: any news on bug 876768 ? [16:17] Launchpad bug 894754 in openvswitch (Ubuntu) "openvswitch_mod module not found" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/894754 [16:17] Launchpad bug 876768 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] netcf" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/876768 [16:18] ill take the openvswitch [16:18] bug 891977, assigned to me - packages in PPA.. needs some polish and policy (debian/copyright , debian/control) etc. [16:18] Launchpad bug 891977 in cobbler (Ubuntu) "cobbler-web package still contain traces of Ubuntu branding" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/891977 [16:19] Any other bugs not being tracked, which should be? [16:20] jdstrand: any news on bug 881464 ? [16:20] Launchpad bug 881464 in keystone (Ubuntu) "[MIR] keystone" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/881464 [16:20] Daviey: fwiw i'd never heard of that bug. [16:20] hallyn: which one? [16:21] openvswitch [16:21] zul: keystone MIR, doko has found more goodies which need love, did you spot that? [16:21] bug 855030 should be added to your list (i just added it) [16:21] Launchpad bug 855030 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Encountering sporadic AMQPChannelException" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/855030 [16:21] where do you look for bugs to fix? [16:21] Ursinha: we can probably move on, and carry this on at the end if required. [16:21] oh, you were asking about netcf. no, no news. AFAIK i'm done with it [16:21] Daviey: i saw im not the one doing the MIR [16:21] http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html [16:21] hallyn: great [16:22] Daviey: I ask because sometimes people don't know about the bugs you point them [16:22] Daviey: i think we may have to sneak it into ubuntu without waiting for debian. [16:22] Ursinha: right [16:22] (smoser, thanks for adding that one) [16:22] hallyn: yep, lets discuss it after the meeting [16:22] ok, so we can move on [16:22] Ursinha: shall we move on? [16:22] +1 [16:23] #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Server Team Events [16:23] anything happening in December? [16:23] besides Christmas [16:23] new years? [16:23] Thankfully, no :) [16:23] :P [16:23] moving on then [16:23] robbiew is attending LISA, doing a BoF session on juju [16:23] #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) [16:23] indeed I am [16:24] oh, right [16:24] anyone else? [16:24] hggdh is not around, it seems [16:24] hggdh isn't around, is there anyone else from the QA team who can stand in? [16:24] shall we move one? [16:24] *on [16:24] Ursinha: please [16:24] right sir [16:25] #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) [16:25] I only had nfs4 and there is bug 886521 from alexbligh [16:25] Launchpad bug 886521 in linux (Ubuntu Oneiric) "CONFIG_XEN_PLATFORM_PCI should be "y" when building 3.1 kernel" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/886521 [16:25] smb meet alexbligh, alexbligh meet smb [16:25] I think we agree on trying to get those build-in [16:25] we think that is Oneiric and Natty [16:25] dcrisan has tested [16:26] right [16:26] anything else? [16:26] smb, have put a patch in [16:26] So we will go forward and propose SRU for O and N [16:26] thnkx === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch [16:27] ..? [16:27] * smb is done [16:27] .,. [16:27] .. [16:27] utlemming / smoser: As bug 881076 now has a work around, is it now a Low priority bug? [16:27] Launchpad bug 881076 in linux (Ubuntu) "precise kernels do not boot on ec2 without idle=halt" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/881076 [16:27] But reminds me to see what happened upstream [16:28] if low priority means not going to be fixed, no. [16:28] it needs to be fixed correctly. [16:28] smoser, thats not true [16:28] I meam of lesser importance compared to other priorities :) [16:29] images boot on all types, so thats good. [16:29] but we i dont want that work around. [16:29] smoser, The problem is that upstream is not sure what proper means [16:29] smb, yeah, and thats fine. [16:29] but we can't ship 12.04 with that work around. [16:29] so as long as that is understood, i dont care what its priority is. [16:29] Yes, I'll need to poke upsrteam again (and about another patch too) [16:30] regardless of prio [16:30] smb, smoser: I think medium is a good prio if we are going to debate it. [16:30] * smb agrees [16:30] i think it should be named flowerpuff. [16:30] lets move on. [16:30] In looking at it, I think that RH had a similar issue too [16:31] smb: I'll look it up and ping you if its a match [16:31] smoser: what is the badness attached to that workaround? [16:31] utlemming, sounds good and likely they do as the acpi rework causes mwait to be used on some machines [16:31] Daviey, the badness is we have to boot on ec2 with some specific kernel command line. [16:32] which is silly, and also gives hiccups on grub upgrade. [16:32] the upgrade is where I have heartburn [16:33] ok [16:33] anything else for kernel? [16:33] alexbligh: Have you concerns addressed? [16:33] Daviey, yes, save that building in those modules will make an upgrade from lucid to natty-backports tricky [16:33] but I don't see anyway around that [16:34] :( [16:34] hmm [16:34] Upgrading from lucid to natty-backports wouldn't happen in one effort. [16:34] Precise is PV device only, Lucid is non-PV device only, so it will happen at some point whatever. [16:34] ahh [16:34] I see. [16:35] lucid kernel upgrades are going ot be fun all around. [16:35] (and the current upgrade to backports gives an unbootable system) [16:35] okay.. we'll try to think of a way of making it painless as possible [16:35] (so it's better than that) [16:35] but some pain expected, we think. [16:35] aha [16:35] ty all for your efforts with this Xen4 stuff [16:35] okay, Thanks smb ! [16:36] smb: Alpha 1 kernel is looking dandy from my PoV :) [16:36] Ursinha: shall we? [16:36] Daviey, cool [16:36] yes sir [16:36] #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (NCommander) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (NCommander) [16:36] NCommander: hello [16:37] Hola [16:37] NCommander: How is ARM server looking? [16:37] sorry, internet just blinked for a moment [16:37] We've got armhf bootstrapped and initial builds are running through now [16:38] There will a *ton* of FTBFS's on armhf, so I encourage everyone to take a look at and see what failures you may encounter [16:38] feel free to ping me, ogra_, or any member of the Ubuntu ARM team in #ubuntu-arm [16:39] ..? [16:39] qa.ubuntuwire.org/ftbfs/primary-precise-armhf.html [16:39] NCommander: How are all the spec's and blueprints looking? [16:39] Daviey, i think 99% of them wait for hardware [16:39] which we dont have [16:39] wow ogra_, that url is bad news :) [16:39] bad news ? [16:39] why ? [16:40] what ogra said [16:40] we only started building today [16:40] ogra_: yeah, thought as much :( [16:40] ogra_: lots of FTBFS's [16:40] Daviey: still in the bootstrap phase [16:40] five or so yet [16:40] golly. :) [16:40] Daviey, yellow isnt failing [16:40] rsalveti: Ah, so things might improve? [16:40] red is [16:40] Daviey: quite a lot, once the basic set of packages are in place [16:40] (on there own?) [16:40] Ahh [16:41] yellow means "Package is waiting on another package" [16:41] I see, dep waiting [16:41] Goody! [16:41] but yeah, we will have lots of failures [16:41] right [16:41] and many package sets that require give-back in the right order etc [16:41] maybe good for alpha 2 :-) [16:41] Anything else for arm server? [16:41] Anything arm server wants to raise? [16:42] apart from the fact that we are largely blocked ? [16:42] if so, please sign you're done with .. [16:42] nothing :) [16:42] .. [16:42] done [16:42] :-) [16:42] awesome [16:42] moving on Daviey? [16:42] ogra_: thanks [16:42] Ursinha: your the boss :) [16:42] moving on [16:42] #topic Weekly Updates & Questions from the Ubuntu Community === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly Updates & Questions from the Ubuntu Community [16:43] We have a new mcollective on precise, this package is a merge from the debian package, incorporating again mcollective-middleware, this will be ported upstream to debian soon [16:43] anyone wants to share? [16:43] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mcollective/1.2.1+dfsg-2ubuntu1 [16:43] Also there's an mcollective SRU for Oneiric that has been reviewed by jamespage, just waiting for upload [16:43] bug 884908 [16:43] lynxman: nice work! [16:43] Launchpad bug 884908 in mcollective (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Package dependencies need work" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/884908 === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson [16:44] Daviey: thank you kindly sir [16:44] ..? [16:44] anyone else? [16:44] all right :) [16:44] #topic Open Discussion === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Open Discussion [16:45] im hungry [16:45] 2 [16:45] me too [16:45] we can discuss later [16:45] * lynxman prepares a burrito stand [16:45] #topic Announce next meeting date and time === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Announce next meeting date and time [16:45] so, same time, December 6th [16:46] who's volunteering for chair? [16:46] Daviey, smoser, jamespage, others? [16:46] the order is in the meeting page, actually. [16:46] i didn't realize there was a volunteer opportunity. [16:47] lol [16:47] smoser: your time to shine! [16:47] i will volunteer lynxman [16:47] :) [16:47] smoser: cool [16:47] thanks Ursinha ! [16:47] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [16:47] Meeting ended Tue Nov 29 16:47:40 2011 UTC. [16:47] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-11-29-16.01.moin.txt [16:47] food awaits [16:47] somewhere [16:47] anyone fancies a burrito? [16:48] * lynxman trying to start his business [16:48] no, thanks :) [16:49] * RoAkSoAx just got hungry lol [16:49] taco taco burito === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-lunch [17:00] Roll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting [17:00] o/ [17:00] * ogasawara waves [17:00] \o [17:00] o/ [17:00] o/ [17:00] o/ [17:00] #startmeeting [17:00] ## [17:00] ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting. [17:00] ## [17:00] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting [17:00] Meeting started Tue Nov 29 17:00:39 2011 UTC. The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. [17:00] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [17:00] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Precise [17:00] # Meeting Etiquette [17:00] # [17:00] # NOTE: '..' indicates that you are finished with your input. [17:00] # 'o/' indicates you have something to add (please wait until you are recognized) [17:01] [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: ARM Status (ppisati) [17:01] I don't see ppisati online [17:01] i think he was having internet issues [17:01] I think he sent email that he'd be offline for a bit [17:02] jsalisbury, cut off [17:02] Ok, anyone else that can cover, if not we can move on [17:02] ogasawara, right moving flats [17:02] i don't think we have an update from him .. [17:02] [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury) [17:02] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt [17:03] Last Updated: 2011-11-15 00:11:56.171410 [17:03] === Release Metrics === [17:03] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt [17:03] ==== precise nominated bugs ==== [17:03] * 32 linux kernel bugs (up 12) [17:03] ==== Ubuntu precise-alpha-1 bugs ==== [17:03] * 1 linux kernel bugs (up 1) [17:03] ==== -updates bugs ==== [17:03] * 0 precise linux kernel bugs (no change 0) [17:03] * 10 oneiric linux kernel bugs (no change 0) [17:03] * 10 natty linux kernel bugs (no change 0) [17:03] * 3 maverick linux kernel bugs (no change 0) [17:03] * 7 lucid linux kernel bugs (no change 0) [17:03] * 0 hardy linux kernel bugs (no change 0) [17:03] === Incoming Bugs === [17:03] * 8 precise bugs (no change 0) [17:03] * 635 oneiric bugs (down 5) [17:03] * 1677 natty bugs (down 3) [17:04] * 1099 maverick bugs (no change 0) [17:04] * 979 lucid bugs (down 4) [17:04] * 43 hardy bugs (down 3) [17:04] === Regressions === [17:04] ==== regression-update bugs ==== [17:04] * 0 precise bugs (no change 0) [17:04] * 7 oneiric bugs (no change 0) [17:04] * 19 natty bugs (no change 0) [17:04] * 40 maverick bugs (no change 0) [17:04] * 76 lucid bugs (no change 0) [17:04] * 0 hardy bugs (no change 0) [17:04] ==== regression-release bugs ==== [17:04] * 1 precise bugs (no change 0) [17:04] * 61 oneiric bugs (up 6) [17:04] * 434 natty bugs (no change 0) [17:04] * 236 maverick bugs (no change 0) [17:04] * 208 lucid bugs (no change 0) [17:04] * 2 hardy bugs (no change 0) [17:04] ==== regression-proposed bugs ==== [17:04] * 0 precise bugs (no change 0) [17:04] * 1 oneiric bugs (no change 0) [17:04] * 4 natty bugs (no change 0) [17:04] * 0 maverick bugs (no change 0) [17:04] * 2 lucid bugs (no change 0) [17:04] * 0 hardy bugs (no change 0) [17:05] .. [17:05] jsalisbury: hrm, the "Last Updated" timestamp looks old. I'll investigate. [17:05] .. [17:05] ogasawara, thanks [17:05] .. [17:05] [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara) [17:06] [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-kernel-team-precise-alpha-1.html [17:06] || apw || hardware-p-kernel-boot || 3 work items || [17:06] || || hardware-p-kernel-delta-review || 1 work item || [17:06] || || foundations-p-ipv6 || 1 work item || [17:06] || cking || hardware-p-kernel-delta-review || 1 work item || [17:06] || ogasawara || hardware-p-kernel-version-and-flavors || 1 work item || [17:06]