[15:57] <hallyn> .
[15:57] <hallyn> ls
[15:57] <lynxman> o/
[15:57] <smb> hallyn, . ..
[15:58] <lynxman> smb: isn't the filesystem a bit too high for kernel guys? ;)
[15:58] <smb> lynxman, We talk about anything we do or do not understand :)
[15:59] <zul> hi ho
[15:59] <hallyn> \o
[15:59] <RoAkSoAx> o/
[15:59] <lynxman> smb: lol
[15:59] <Daviey> o/
[16:00] <smb> \o
[16:00] <lynxman> \o/
[16:01] <Daviey> Ursinha: it's on you :)
[16:01] <Ursinha> meme
[16:01] <Ursinha> #startmeeting
[16:01] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Nov 29 16:01:20 2011 UTC.  The chair is Ursinha. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
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[16:01] <Ursinha> hello people, this is the first time I chair this meeting, so be nice to me :)
[16:01] <Ursinha> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:01] <Ursinha> so, according to last week's logs there is none.
[16:02] <Ursinha> moving on
[16:02] <Ursinha> #topic Precise Development
[16:02] <zul> boo!
[16:02] <Ursinha> Daviey: and now....
[16:02] <Daviey> Hello!
[16:02] <Daviey> Alpha 1 is out this week, meaning we are in soft freeze
[16:03] <Daviey> So far we are looking pretty stable, infact, possibly the most stable Alpha1 we've had for some releases
[16:03] <Daviey> I'd like to go through our targetted bugs for this week:
[16:03] <Daviey> bug 883988
[16:03] <Daviey> zul: Is this impacting upgrades still?
[16:03] <zul> dont think so
[16:04] <zul> i havent been able to reproduce it
[16:04] <Daviey> zul: We probably need to test oneiric -> precise upgrades to see the situation.
[16:04] <Daviey> bug 893926
[16:04] <Daviey> Up for grabs, mostly bitesize - removing branding and image-store.. any takers?
[16:05] <Daviey> Grab it if you want it.
[16:05] <Daviey> bug 881903
[16:05] <Daviey> hallyn: awaiting new upstream version, do we have an idea when?
[16:06] <hallyn> nope
[16:06] <Daviey> bug 888124 , jamespage - is this on the soonly roadmap for you, or up for grabs?
[16:06] <hallyn> hm, i think new version was quietly tagged!
[16:06] <hallyn> will check it out this afternoon
[16:07] <Daviey> bug 607039 , Still up for grabs.. probably requires some time to reproduce.
[16:07] <Daviey> hallyn: dandy
[16:07] <hallyn> oh, nope
[16:07] <jamespage> Daviey: on my list
[16:07] <Daviey> jamespage: great
[16:07] <jamespage> but not mega urgent ATM
[16:07] <smb> Actually
[16:07] <Daviey> bug 894713 , most certainly bitesize.. open to offers, highest bidder?
[16:07] <smb> This is sort of user error but a long way
[16:07] <smb> Daviey, Sorry that was for the nfs4 bug
[16:08] <Daviey> smb: oh?
[16:08] <Daviey> alexbligh: does ^^ that one interest you? :)
[16:08] <alexbligh> Yep.
[16:08] <alexbligh> We've fixed that here.
[16:08] <alexbligh> Want a patch?
[16:08] <Daviey> smb: right, sorry for moving a bit quick.. trying to get through them.. i don't mind interupting
[16:08] <smb> Daviey, basically trying to use fstype nfs4 uses mount.nfs4 whch tries to use modprobe nfs4
[16:08] <smb> which does not exist
[16:08] <alexbligh> Daviey, oh, I already sent a patch :-)
[16:08] <smb> but basically using fstype nfs also gives you an nfs4 mount
[16:09] <Daviey> alexbligh: certainly, if you want to provide a debian/changelog entry aswell and a debdiff, we'll get it sponsored quickly :)
[16:09] <smb> and according to upstream users should be encouraged to use nfs as fstype
[16:09] <smb> just not that this is told anywhere
[16:09] <smb> rather the opposite
[16:09] <Daviey> alexbligh: if not, we'll JFDI based on your patch
[16:09] <alexbligh> JFDI would be easier as I'll have to master debdiff etc. first :-)
[16:09] <Daviey> smb: Oh great! I didn't know that :)
[16:10] <smb> Daviey, Just got that answer today
[16:10] <Daviey> smb: could i ask that you throw that as a comment on the bug report, and consider marking it invalid?
[16:10] <Daviey> alexbligh: sounds good, thanks
[16:10] <Daviey> smb: Great!
[16:10] <Daviey> bug 833499 , new one to me
[16:10] <smb> Daviey, Yes
[16:11] <Daviey> smoser: something needs fixing in nova?
[16:11] <smoser> reading up
[16:12] <smoser> generally i think its broken behavior in openstack. but cloud-init un-does their insertion of keys for newer images.
[16:12] <smoser> why did this make your list ?
[16:12] <Daviey> bug 889644 , being worked on in Debian.. Wait out on that
[16:12] <Daviey> bug 887186
[16:12] <Daviey> adam_g / RoAkSoAx: is that somethuing you were looking ay?
[16:12] <Daviey> at?
[16:13] <adam_g> Daviey: thats new to me
[16:13] <Daviey> smoser reported it, guess he is chasing it
[16:13] <smoser> i'm not chasing.
[16:13] <smoser> the bug report should be fairly straight forward.
[16:13] <Daviey> adam_g: okay, we'll dig into that after the meeting
[16:13] <smoser> basically our squid proxy is not working as designed.
[16:14] <Daviey> bug 893134 , zul - fixed in Precise, right?
[16:14] <zul> yeah uploaded yesterday still waiting for archive admin review
[16:14] <Daviey> .. a few cobbler-enlist bugs, blocked on further direction. ..
[16:14] <Daviey> zul: bug 871278 ?
[16:14] <zul> gah..
[16:15] <zul> will get to it this week
[16:15] <Daviey> bug 875262 , I think needs a new assignee.. open to offers.
[16:15] <Daviey> bug 875262 , awaiting clariffication from reporter
[16:16] <Daviey> an no, been more update.. Clint isn't here.. I'm sure he'll look at it today
[16:16] <Daviey> bug 890362 , zul - next upload?
[16:16] <zul> yep
[16:16] <Daviey> utlemming: been able to look at bug 891433 ?
[16:17] <utlemming> Daviey: yup, its done, just need to test it
[16:17] <Daviey> utlemming: rocking
[16:17] <Daviey> bug 894754
[16:17] <Daviey> open to offers
[16:17] <Daviey> hallyn: any news on bug 876768 ?
[16:18] <zul> ill take the openvswitch
[16:18] <Daviey> bug 891977, assigned to me - packages in PPA.. needs some polish and policy (debian/copyright , debian/control) etc.
[16:19] <Daviey> Any other bugs not being tracked, which should be?
[16:20] <Daviey> jdstrand: any news on bug 881464 ?
[16:20] <hallyn> Daviey: fwiw i'd never heard of that bug.
[16:20] <Daviey> hallyn: which one?
[16:21] <hallyn> openvswitch
[16:21] <Daviey> zul: keystone MIR, doko has found more goodies which need love, did you spot that?
[16:21] <smoser> bug 855030 should be added to your list (i just added it)
[16:21] <Ursinha> where do you look for bugs to fix?
[16:21] <Daviey> Ursinha: we can probably move on, and carry this on at the end if required.
[16:21] <hallyn> oh, you were asking about netcf.  no, no news.  AFAIK i'm done with it
[16:21] <zul> Daviey: i saw im not the one doing the MIR
[16:21] <Daviey> http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
[16:21] <Daviey> hallyn: great
[16:22] <Ursinha> Daviey: I ask because sometimes people don't know about the bugs you point them
[16:22] <hallyn> Daviey: i think we may have to sneak it into ubuntu without waiting for debian.
[16:22] <Daviey> Ursinha: right
[16:22] <Daviey> (smoser, thanks for adding that one)
[16:22] <Daviey> hallyn: yep, lets discuss it after the meeting
[16:22] <Ursinha> ok, so we can move on
[16:22] <Daviey> Ursinha: shall we move on?
[16:22] <Daviey> +1
[16:23] <Ursinha> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:23] <Ursinha> anything happening in December?
[16:23] <Ursinha> besides Christmas
[16:23] <zul> new years?
[16:23] <Daviey> Thankfully, no :)
[16:23] <Ursinha> :P
[16:23] <Ursinha> moving on then
[16:23] <lynxman> robbiew is attending LISA, doing a BoF session on juju
[16:23] <Ursinha> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
[16:23] <robbiew> indeed I am
[16:24] <Ursinha> oh, right
[16:24] <Ursinha> anyone else?
[16:24] <Ursinha> hggdh is not around, it seems
[16:24] <Daviey> hggdh isn't around, is there anyone else from the QA team who can stand in?
[16:24] <Ursinha> shall we move one?
[16:24] <Ursinha> *on
[16:24] <Daviey> Ursinha: please
[16:24] <Ursinha> right sir
[16:25] <Ursinha> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
[16:25] <smb> I only had nfs4 and there is  bug 886521 from alexbligh
[16:25] <Daviey> smb meet alexbligh, alexbligh meet smb
[16:25] <smb> I think we agree on trying to get those build-in
[16:25] <alexbligh> we think that is Oneiric and Natty
[16:25] <alexbligh> dcrisan has tested
[16:26] <smb> right
[16:26] <Ursinha> anything else?
[16:26] <alexbligh> smb, have put a patch in
[16:26] <smb> So we will go forward and propose SRU for O and N
[16:26] <alexbligh> thnkx
[16:27] <Ursinha> ..?
[16:27]  * smb is done
[16:27] <smb> .,.
[16:27] <smb> ..
[16:27] <Daviey> utlemming / smoser: As bug 881076 now has a work around, is it now a Low priority bug?
[16:27] <smb> But reminds me to see what happened upstream
[16:28] <smoser> if low priority means not going to be fixed, no.
[16:28] <smoser> it needs to be fixed correctly.
[16:28] <smb> smoser, thats not true
[16:28] <Daviey> I meam of lesser importance compared to other priorities :)
[16:29] <smoser> images boot on all types, so thats good.
[16:29] <smoser> but we i dont want that work around.
[16:29] <smb> smoser, The problem is that upstream is not sure what proper means
[16:29] <smoser> smb, yeah, and thats fine.
[16:29] <smoser> but we can't ship 12.04 with that work around.
[16:29] <smoser> so as long as that is understood, i dont care what its priority is.
[16:29] <smb> Yes, I'll need to poke upsrteam again (and about another patch too)
[16:30] <smb> regardless of prio
[16:30] <utlemming> smb, smoser: I think medium is a good prio if we are going to debate it.
[16:30]  * smb agrees
[16:30] <smoser> i think it should be named flowerpuff.
[16:30] <smoser> lets move on.
[16:30] <utlemming> In looking at it, I think that RH had a similar issue too
[16:31] <utlemming> smb: I'll look it up and ping you if its a match
[16:31] <Daviey> smoser: what is the badness attached to that workaround?
[16:31] <smb> utlemming, sounds good and likely they do as the acpi rework causes mwait to be used on some machines
[16:31] <smoser> Daviey, the badness is we have to boot on ec2 with some specific kernel command line.
[16:32] <smoser> which is silly, and also gives hiccups on grub upgrade.
[16:32] <utlemming> the upgrade is where I have heartburn
[16:33] <Daviey> ok
[16:33] <Daviey> anything else for kernel?
[16:33] <Daviey> alexbligh: Have you concerns addressed?
[16:33] <alexbligh> Daviey, yes, save that building in those modules will make an upgrade from lucid to natty-backports tricky
[16:33] <alexbligh> but I don't see anyway around that
[16:34] <Daviey> :(
[16:34] <Daviey> hmm
[16:34] <Daviey> Upgrading from lucid to natty-backports wouldn't happen in one effort.
[16:34] <alexbligh> Precise is PV device only, Lucid is non-PV device only, so it will happen at some point whatever.
[16:34] <Daviey> ahh
[16:34] <Daviey> I see.
[16:35] <smoser> lucid kernel upgrades are going ot be fun all around.
[16:35] <alexbligh> (and the current upgrade to backports gives an unbootable system)
[16:35] <Daviey> okay.. we'll try to think of a way of making it painless as possible
[16:35] <alexbligh> (so it's better than that)
[16:35] <Daviey> but some pain expected, we think.
[16:35] <alexbligh> aha
[16:35] <alexbligh> ty all for your efforts with this Xen4 stuff
[16:35] <Daviey> okay, Thanks smb !
[16:36] <Daviey> smb: Alpha 1 kernel is looking dandy from my PoV :)
[16:36] <Daviey> Ursinha: shall we?
[16:36] <smb> Daviey, cool
[16:36] <Ursinha> yes sir
[16:36] <Ursinha> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (NCommander)
[16:36] <Ursinha> NCommander: hello
[16:37] <NCommander> Hola
[16:37] <Daviey> NCommander: How is ARM server looking?
[16:37] <NCommander> sorry, internet just blinked for a moment
[16:37] <NCommander> We've got armhf bootstrapped and initial builds are running through now
[16:38] <NCommander> There will a  *ton* of FTBFS's on armhf, so I encourage everyone to take a look at and see what failures you may encounter
[16:38] <NCommander> feel free to ping me, ogra_, or any member of the Ubuntu ARM team in #ubuntu-arm
[16:39] <Ursinha> ..?
[16:39] <ogra_> qa.ubuntuwire.org/ftbfs/primary-precise-armhf.html
[16:39] <Daviey> NCommander: How are all the spec's and blueprints looking?
[16:39] <ogra_> Daviey, i think 99% of them wait for hardware
[16:39] <ogra_> which we dont have
[16:39] <Daviey> wow ogra_, that url is bad news :)
[16:39] <ogra_> bad news ?
[16:39] <ogra_> why ?
[16:40] <NCommander> what ogra said
[16:40] <ogra_> we only started building today
[16:40] <Daviey> ogra_: yeah, thought as much :(
[16:40] <Daviey> ogra_: lots of FTBFS's
[16:40] <rsalveti> Daviey: still in the bootstrap phase
[16:40] <ogra_> five or so yet
[16:40] <Daviey> golly. :)
[16:40] <ogra_> Daviey, yellow isnt failing
[16:40] <Daviey> rsalveti: Ah, so things might improve?
[16:40] <ogra_> red is
[16:40] <rsalveti> Daviey: quite a lot, once the basic set of packages are in place
[16:40] <Daviey> (on there own?)
[16:40] <Daviey> Ahh
[16:41] <ogra_> yellow means "Package is waiting on another package"
[16:41] <Daviey> I see, dep waiting
[16:41] <Daviey> Goody!
[16:41] <ogra_> but yeah, we will have lots of failures
[16:41] <Daviey> right
[16:41] <ogra_> and many package sets that require give-back in the right order etc
[16:41] <rsalveti> maybe good for alpha 2 :-)
[16:41] <Daviey> Anything else for arm server?
[16:41] <Daviey> Anything arm server wants to raise?
[16:42] <ogra_> apart from the fact that we are largely blocked ?
[16:42] <Ursinha> if so, please sign you're done with ..
[16:42] <ogra_> nothing :)
[16:42] <ogra_> ..
[16:42] <NCommander> done
[16:42] <NCommander> :-)
[16:42] <Ursinha> awesome
[16:42] <Ursinha> moving on Daviey?
[16:42] <Daviey> ogra_: thanks
[16:42] <Daviey> Ursinha: your the boss :)
[16:42] <Ursinha> moving on
[16:42] <Ursinha> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions from the Ubuntu Community
[16:43] <lynxman> We have a new mcollective on precise, this package is a merge from the debian package, incorporating again mcollective-middleware, this will be ported upstream to debian soon
[16:43] <Ursinha> anyone wants to share?
[16:43] <lynxman> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mcollective/1.2.1+dfsg-2ubuntu1
[16:43] <lynxman> Also there's an mcollective SRU for Oneiric that has been reviewed by jamespage, just waiting for upload
[16:43] <lynxman> bug 884908
[16:43] <Daviey> lynxman: nice work!
[16:44] <lynxman> Daviey: thank you kindly sir
[16:44] <Ursinha> ..?
[16:44] <Ursinha> anyone else?
[16:44] <Ursinha> all right :)
[16:44] <Ursinha> #topic Open Discussion
[16:45] <zul> im hungry
[16:45] <rsalveti> 2
[16:45] <Ursinha> me too
[16:45] <Ursinha> we can discuss later
[16:45]  * lynxman prepares a burrito stand
[16:45] <Ursinha> #topic Announce next meeting date and time
[16:45] <Ursinha> so, same time, December 6th
[16:46] <Ursinha> who's volunteering for chair?
[16:46] <Ursinha> Daviey, smoser, jamespage, others?
[16:46] <hallyn> the order is in the meeting page, actually.
[16:46] <smoser> i didn't realize there was a volunteer opportunity.
[16:47] <Ursinha> lol
[16:47] <lynxman> smoser: your time to shine!
[16:47] <smoser> i will volunteer lynxman
[16:47] <hallyn> :)
[16:47] <Ursinha> smoser: cool
[16:47] <Daviey> thanks Ursinha !
[16:47] <Ursinha> #endmeeting
[16:47] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Nov 29 16:47:40 2011 UTC.
[16:47] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-11-29-16.01.moin.txt
[16:47] <Ursinha> food awaits
[16:47] <Ursinha> somewhere
[16:47] <lynxman> anyone fancies a burrito?
[16:48]  * lynxman trying to start his business
[16:48] <Daviey> no, thanks :)
[16:49]  * RoAkSoAx just got hungry lol
[16:49] <zul> taco taco burito
[17:00] <jsalisbury> Roll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting
[17:00] <cking> o/
[17:00]  * ogasawara waves
[17:00] <smb> \o
[17:00] <bjf> o/
[17:00] <sforshee> o/
[17:00] <herton> o/
[17:00] <jsalisbury> #startmeeting
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting
[17:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Nov 29 17:00:39 2011 UTC.  The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Precise
[17:00] <jsalisbury> # Meeting Etiquette
[17:00] <jsalisbury> #
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[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)
[17:01] <jsalisbury> I don't see ppisati online
[17:01] <bjf> i think he was having internet issues
[17:01] <ogasawara> I think he sent email that he'd be offline for a bit
[17:02] <smb> jsalisbury, cut off
[17:02] <jsalisbury> Ok, anyone else that can cover, if not we can move on
[17:02] <smb> ogasawara, right moving flats
[17:02] <apw> i don't think we have an update from him ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt
[17:03] <jsalisbury> Last Updated: 2011-11-15 00:11:56.171410
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [17:03] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [17:03] <jsalisbury>  * 32 linux kernel bugs (up 12)
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [17:03] <jsalisbury>  * 1 linux kernel bugs (up 1)
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [17:03] <jsalisbury>  * 0 precise linux kernel bugs (no change 0)
[17:03] <jsalisbury>  * 10 oneiric linux kernel bugs (no change 0)
[17:03] <jsalisbury>  * 10 natty linux kernel bugs (no change 0)
[17:03] <jsalisbury>  * 3 maverick linux kernel bugs (no change 0)
[17:03] <jsalisbury>  * 7 lucid linux kernel bugs (no change 0)
[17:03] <jsalisbury>  * 0 hardy linux kernel bugs (no change 0)
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [17:03] <jsalisbury>  * 8 precise bugs (no change 0)
[17:03] <jsalisbury>  * 635 oneiric bugs (down 5)
[17:03] <jsalisbury>  * 1677 natty bugs (down 3)
[17:04] <jsalisbury>  * 1099 maverick bugs (no change 0)
[17:04] <jsalisbury>  * 979 lucid bugs (down 4)
[17:04] <jsalisbury>  * 43 hardy bugs (down 3)
[17:04] <jsalisbury> [17:04] <jsalisbury> [17:04] <jsalisbury>  * 0 precise bugs (no change 0)
[17:04] <jsalisbury>  * 7 oneiric bugs (no change 0)
[17:04] <jsalisbury>  * 19 natty bugs (no change 0)
[17:04] <jsalisbury>  * 40 maverick bugs (no change 0)
[17:04] <jsalisbury>  * 76 lucid bugs (no change 0)
[17:04] <jsalisbury>  * 0 hardy bugs (no change 0)
[17:04] <jsalisbury> [17:04] <jsalisbury>  * 1 precise bugs (no change 0)
[17:04] <jsalisbury>  * 61 oneiric bugs (up 6)
[17:04] <jsalisbury>  * 434 natty bugs (no change 0)
[17:04] <jsalisbury>  * 236 maverick bugs (no change 0)
[17:04] <jsalisbury>  * 208 lucid bugs (no change 0)
[17:04] <jsalisbury>  * 2 hardy bugs (no change 0)
[17:04] <jsalisbury> [17:04] <jsalisbury>  * 0 precise bugs (no change 0)
[17:04] <jsalisbury>  * 1 oneiric bugs (no change 0)
[17:04] <jsalisbury>  * 4 natty bugs (no change 0)
[17:04] <jsalisbury>  * 0 maverick bugs (no change 0)
[17:04] <jsalisbury>  * 2 lucid bugs (no change 0)
[17:04] <jsalisbury>  * 0 hardy bugs (no change 0)
[17:05] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:05] <ogasawara> jsalisbury: hrm, the "Last Updated" timestamp looks old.  I'll investigate.
[17:05] <ogasawara> ..
[17:05] <jsalisbury> ogasawara, thanks
[17:05] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:05] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)
[17:06] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-kernel-team-precise-alpha-1.html
[17:06] <ogasawara> || apw       || hardware-p-kernel-boot                || 3 work items ||
[17:06] <ogasawara> ||           || hardware-p-kernel-delta-review        || 1 work item  ||
[17:06] <ogasawara> ||           || foundations-p-ipv6                    || 1 work item  ||
[17:06] <ogasawara> || cking     || hardware-p-kernel-delta-review        || 1 work item  ||
[17:06] <ogasawara> || ogasawara || hardware-p-kernel-version-and-flavors || 1 work item  ||
[17:06] <ogasawara> || tgardner  || hardware-p-kernel-version-and-flavors || 1 work item  ||
[17:06] <ogasawara> ||           || hardware-p-kernel-delta-review        || 1 work item  ||
[17:06] <ogasawara> If your name is in the above table, please review your Alpha-1 work items and either get them closed or push them out to the next milestone.  Remember, Alpha-1 is Thurs Dec 1.
[17:06] <ogasawara> ..
[17:06] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Blueprint: hardware-p-kernel-power-management (cking)
[17:06] <cking> Power Management:
[17:06] <cking> * i386 vs i386-pae vs amd64 power measurements; various user space scenarios
[17:06] <cking> * instrument ACPI battery information against different scenarios
[17:06] <cking> * use ACPI battery analysis to improve powerstat, push out V0.00.04
[17:06] <cking> * instrument unity 2D vs 3D in a limited set of tests
[17:06] <cking> * started instrumenting powertop tunables on sandybridge H/W, compare to Win7
[17:06] <cking> ..
[17:07] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Precise Development Kernel (ogasawara)
[17:07] <ogasawara> We have uploaded the 3.2.0-2.5 Ubuntu kernel which was based on the latest upstream v3.2-rc3 kernel.  Please install and test on any kit you have.  Feedback is appreciated.  We are in a soft freeze for Alpha-1, we do not intend any uploads until after the milestone.
[17:07] <ogasawara> Important Upcoming Dates:
[17:07] <ogasawara>  * Thurs Dec 1 - Alpha 1 (2 days)
[17:07] <ogasawara>  * Thurs Feb 2 - Alpha 2 (~ 9 weeks)
[17:07] <ogasawara> ..
[17:07] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (apw)
[17:08] <apw> [17:08] <apw>  
[17:08] <apw> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt
[17:08] <apw>  
[17:08] <apw> Currently open CVEs for each supported branch:
[17:08] <apw>  
[17:08] <apw> || Package                                  || Open      ||
[17:08] <apw> ||                                          ||           ||
[17:08] <apw> || linux Hardy                              ||   11 (+3) ||
[17:08] <apw> || linux Lucid                              ||    8 (+3) ||
[17:08] <apw> || linux Maverick                           ||    8 (+3) ||
[17:08] <apw> || linux Natty                              ||    8 (+3) ||
[17:08] <apw> || linux Oneiric                            ||    5 (+1) ||
[17:08] <apw> || linux Precise                            ||    5 (+1) ||
[17:08] <apw> || linux-ec2 Lucid                          ||    8 (+3) ||
[17:08] <apw> || linux-fsl-imx51 Lucid                    ||    8 (+3) ||
[17:08] <apw> || linux-mvl-dove Lucid                     ||    8 (+3) ||
[17:08] <apw> || linux-mvl-dove Maverick                  ||    8 (+3) ||
[17:08] <apw> || linux-ti-omap4 Maverick                  ||    8 (+3) ||
[17:08] <apw> || linux-ti-omap4 Natty                     ||    8 (+2) ||
[17:08] <apw> || linux-ti-omap4 Oneiric                   ||    5 (+1) ||
[17:08] <apw> || linux-ti-omap4 Precise                   ||    5 (+1) ||
[17:08] <apw> || linux-lts-backport-maverick Lucid        ||    8 (+3) ||
[17:08] <apw> || linux-lts-backport-natty Lucid           ||    8 (+3) ||
[17:08] <apw> || linux-lts-backport-oneiric Lucid         ||    5 (+1) ||
[17:08] <apw>  
[17:08] <apw> We gained yet another 5 CVEs this week.  We closed out a couple.  Two of
[17:09] <apw> the new CVEs await upstream fixes.
[17:09] <apw>  
[17:09] <apw> ..
[17:09] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Oneiric/Natty/Maverick/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton)
[17:09] <bjf> Last week saw the verification and testing of the current -proposed
[17:09] <bjf> updates. Here is the status for the main kernels, until yesterday (28/11):
[17:09] <bjf>  * Hardy - 2.6.24-30.97
[17:09] <bjf>   * prep'd and uploaded
[17:09] <bjf>  * Lucid - 2.6.32-36.79
[17:09] <bjf>   * waiting on the completion of certification
[17:09] <bjf>  * Maverick - 2.6.35-31.63
[17:09] <bjf>   * prep'd and uploaded
[17:09] <bjf>  * Natty - 2.6.38-13.53
[17:09] <bjf>   * prep'd and uploaded
[17:09] <bjf>  * Oneiric - 3.0.0-14.23
[17:09] <bjf>   * In verification phase, 4 bugs needing verification.
[17:09] <bjf> For more details, current opened tracking bugs can be seen at
[17:10] <bjf> http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html
[17:10] <bjf> For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:
[17:10] <bjf> http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html
[17:10] <bjf> ..
[17:10] <jsalisbury> Anything to add, herton?
[17:10] <herton> nope, go on
[17:10] <herton> ..
[17:10] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:11] <tgardner> o/
[17:11] <jsalisbury> tgardner, go
[17:11] <tgardner> ogasawara, I think you should upload again to frop non-pae and fix Apple MAC installs.
[17:11] <tgardner> drop*
[17:12] <tgardner> as well as the crda stuff
[17:12] <apw> is the installer ready for us to lose generic ?
[17:12] <tgardner> he's got 2 days
[17:12] <apw> ..
[17:12] <tgardner> perhaps make it conditional on whether he can get it done by then.
[17:13] <ogasawara> I'd be hesitant to yank non-pae so close to the milestone without giving more of a heads up.
[17:13] <tgardner> well then, here is the heads up. lets git 'er done before A2
[17:13] <ogasawara> tgardner: ack
[17:14] <tgardner> ..
[17:14] <bjf> is there a work item for the installer work ?
[17:14] <bjf> ..
[17:14] <ogasawara> bjf: I suspect not yet as dropping the non-pae flavor was still in discussion until yesterday
[17:14] <tgardner> I've got a bug, I'll make sure the installer is listed
[17:15] <jsalisbury> anything else from anyone?
[17:15] <ogasawara> tgardner: how critical is the crda bits for alpha1? I could see an upload for the apple mac installs, or just release noting it for now.
[17:16] <tgardner> ogasawara, not that important. I've converted wireless-crda to a meta package and uploaded
[17:16] <tgardner> apple stuff can be release noted I guess.
[17:16] <ogasawara> ack
[17:16] <ogasawara> ..
[17:17] <jsalisbury> any other open topic discussions?
[17:17] <jsalisbury> Ok, thanks everyone.
[17:17] <bjf> nice job joe
[17:17] <jsalisbury> #endmeeting
[17:17] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Nov 29 17:17:44 2011 UTC.
[17:17] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-11-29-17.00.moin.txt
[17:17] <apw> ta jsalisbury
[17:17] <ogasawara> thanks jsalisbury
[17:17] <jsalisbury> bjf, thanks
[17:17] <cking> thanks jsalisbury