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tonyyarussoTakyoji: For actually calling to land lines or not?  I normally just use Empathy with voice over XMPP.02:28
TakyojiI wonder if Google Chat has Voice over XMPP03:32
TakyojiI suppose that would be easier to configure than SIP03:32
tonyyarussoTakyoji: Yes, Google accounts work beatifully for voice and video in Empathy.03:34
TakyojiBecause I'm looking for a decent approach to having a client for receiving calls over Google Voice03:35
tonyyarussoI'm not sure if you can give an XMPP account as a phone in GV.03:39
tonyyarussoTakyoji: Scratch that - yes you can :)03:43
Takyojiahh, alrighty03:43
tonyyarussoOnly your Google one though it seems03:43
TakyojiPidgin doesn't have support for Jingle though, yes?03:43
TakyojiNot Google Apps?03:43
tonyyarussoPidgin should work just fine03:44
TakyojiI tried calling, and Pidgin didn't really do anything03:44
Takyojiwhile the web-based client and everything else alarmed03:44
tonyyarussoit has to be pretty recent pidgin03:46
Takyoji2.10.003:48
tonyyarussothat should work03:48
TakyojiEmpathy looks like it would have support04:34
TakyojiAlso, as I don't think I've announced yet, I've asked on the official IRC channel of Wayland development and apparently Wayland WILL allow you to sandbox applications in a chroot jail or similar.04:38
TakyojiSo, yay!04:38
TakyojiSomething to forward to, for paranoid tinfoil hat me; and now it will finally be practical to sandbox Linux apps.04:39
ColinHarringtonAnyone jumping ship for Mint?04:51
tonyyarussoHeck no.04:51
tonyyarussoIf I jump ship to anything it'd be Debian, not some weird knock-off for lazy people.04:51
TakyojiI believe Mint is more directly derived from Debian. :P05:12
Takyojiand is probably the most user-friendly for those coming from Windows05:12
tonyyarussoMint is illegal, as they're whole point is to ship with restricted codecs and such pre-installed.  If they get big enough for people to care, they'll just get sued.05:13
TakyojiSo everyone on Ubuntu is buying the codec royalties? :P05:14
TakyojiYou also sound like someone from the MAFIAA. :P05:14
Takyojialso, what of VLC not being sued out of existence? :P05:15
TakyojiWhat programs even utilize the Fluendo codec pack?05:17
tonyyarussoTakyoji: The way the licenses of the codecs are written, in most jurisdictions they are free of charge for individual users to download, but not for groups like Ubuntu or Canonical to "distribute" (ship pre-installed).  That's why the Ubuntu installer prompts you to check a box if you want to install them.10:36
TakyojiAnyone relatively thoroughly familiar with the workflow of Glade and GTK+?22:49
Takyojisuch as concepts of UI creation with such, and common norms.22:50

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