[02:28] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji: For actually calling to land lines or not?  I normally just use Empathy with voice over XMPP.
[03:32] <Takyoji> I wonder if Google Chat has Voice over XMPP
[03:32] <Takyoji> I suppose that would be easier to configure than SIP
[03:34] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji: Yes, Google accounts work beatifully for voice and video in Empathy.
[03:35] <Takyoji> Because I'm looking for a decent approach to having a client for receiving calls over Google Voice
[03:39] <tonyyarusso> I'm not sure if you can give an XMPP account as a phone in GV.
[03:43] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji: Scratch that - yes you can :)
[03:43] <Takyoji> ahh, alrighty
[03:43] <tonyyarusso> Only your Google one though it seems
[03:43] <Takyoji> Pidgin doesn't have support for Jingle though, yes?
[03:43] <Takyoji> Not Google Apps?
[03:44] <tonyyarusso> Pidgin should work just fine
[03:44] <Takyoji> I tried calling, and Pidgin didn't really do anything
[03:44] <Takyoji> while the web-based client and everything else alarmed
[03:46] <tonyyarusso> it has to be pretty recent pidgin
[03:48] <Takyoji> 2.10.0
[03:48] <tonyyarusso> that should work
[04:34] <Takyoji> Empathy looks like it would have support
[04:38] <Takyoji> Also, as I don't think I've announced yet, I've asked on the official IRC channel of Wayland development and apparently Wayland WILL allow you to sandbox applications in a chroot jail or similar.
[04:38] <Takyoji> So, yay!
[04:39] <Takyoji> Something to forward to, for paranoid tinfoil hat me; and now it will finally be practical to sandbox Linux apps.
[04:51] <ColinHarrington> Anyone jumping ship for Mint?
[04:51] <tonyyarusso> Heck no.
[04:51] <tonyyarusso> If I jump ship to anything it'd be Debian, not some weird knock-off for lazy people.
[05:12] <Takyoji> I believe Mint is more directly derived from Debian. :P
[05:12] <Takyoji> and is probably the most user-friendly for those coming from Windows
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> Mint is illegal, as they're whole point is to ship with restricted codecs and such pre-installed.  If they get big enough for people to care, they'll just get sued.
[05:14] <Takyoji> So everyone on Ubuntu is buying the codec royalties? :P
[05:14] <Takyoji> You also sound like someone from the MAFIAA. :P
[05:15] <Takyoji> also, what of VLC not being sued out of existence? :P
[05:17] <Takyoji> What programs even utilize the Fluendo codec pack?
[10:36] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji: The way the licenses of the codecs are written, in most jurisdictions they are free of charge for individual users to download, but not for groups like Ubuntu or Canonical to "distribute" (ship pre-installed).  That's why the Ubuntu installer prompts you to check a box if you want to install them.
[22:49] <Takyoji> Anyone relatively thoroughly familiar with the workflow of Glade and GTK+?
[22:50] <Takyoji> such as concepts of UI creation with such, and common norms.