[15:39] <holstein> mhall119: nice article
[15:39] <holstein> http://mhall119.com/2011/11/reports-of-ubuntus-death-are-greatly-exaggerated/
[15:39] <mhall119> thanks holstein
[15:39] <holstein> i think mint has been "ahead" there at distrowatch for a while
[15:40] <holstein> i was thinking it was folks checking in to see if 'lisa' had dropped
[18:30] <orauyz> hi
[19:56] <holstein> orauyz: o/
[20:15] <orauyz> holstein ?
[21:18] <billf> I've switched to kde to see what that is like - purely because I got fed up with Unity after several months of using it
[21:20] <billf> the #trilug channel is talking about the breakdown of community engagement
[21:20] <billf> http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Blogs/Off-the-Beat-Bruce-Byfield-s-Blog/A-Disturbing-Dialog-About-Ubuntu-and-Unity
[21:36] <billf> has ubuntu just alienated a large portion of their user base ? and what will it take to regain their trust ?
[21:37] <Nivex> I switched to XFCE because I didn't like Unity.
[21:40] <akgraner> I must be weird then I like Unity
[21:40] <akgraner> I didn't at first though, but now I do
[21:41] <billf> I tried to like Unity for several months, but I kept getting fustrated with it
[21:42] <akgraner> nods, I understand I know a lot of people who feel that same way
[21:42] <billf> I wish the installer had given people the choice of installing the classic desktop as well as unity
[21:43] <Nivex> even with the gnome-session-fallback, it ate all my settings going from 11.04 to 11.10. Started with a fresh panel and background. I was not a happy camper.
[21:44] <akgraner> ouch
[21:45] <billf> I can't really tell my neighbour to download ubuntu and install it, then run the package manager and search for classic and install that, then reconfigure lightdm to use classic by default.
[21:45] <billf> Nivex: I gave up after the upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 and did a complete wipe and install of 11.10 to fix all that.
[21:46] <Nivex> I gave up and migrated to Xubuntu :)
[21:46] <billf> well, I'm trying kde, and maybe xubuntu will be the next stop
[21:47] <Nivex> I'm glad there was an easy path to do that and not have to punt to a different distro for the moment.
[21:47] <akgraner> I tried Lubuntu just for the fun of it and I like it as well
[21:47] <billf> akgraner: I will have to try that too - thanks !
[21:48] <akgraner> yw :-)
[21:48] <Nivex> I've run LXDE in a couple of test environments, but never for very long. It looks like it's got a lot of promise though. I know they are trying to get Lubuntu made an official spin.
[21:48] <akgraner> I haven't been around much but I am hoping after Christmas we can do some LoCo stuff and kick start some activities, and find some new members
[21:49] <akgraner> I'm going to start an Ubuntu Hour here in good ole Rutherfordton
[23:50] <BugeyeD> i'm sticking with xmonad for now. i can do that with any unix-ish os, so i'm not bothered much by the unity flap.