[00:01] <jeff3> So I need help doing a clean install of Ubuntu...
[00:02] <ratcheer> jeff3: Are there other OS's on the machine?
[00:03] <jeff3> Yeah, there is. Vista is currently on it, and I've backed up personal files on a flash drive... I'd happily be rid of any programs currently on it.
[00:04] <bfreis> Is it normal that Dolphin takes *forever* to change between view modes? Forever = tens of seconds
[00:04] <ratcheer> jeff2: I wish I could help you, but I keep Linux and Windows separated.
[00:04] <jeff3> The problem is that I can't currently boot Vista; someone else who uses the laptop incurred a virus or something. Currently it won't start up due to a "disk read error"
[00:04] <Xelmep> HELP About PPTP Server on Ubuntu !!!
[00:05] <LivTyler> !d-i | jeff3
[00:05] <mcphail> jeff3: do you want to keep Windows? If so, reinstall Windows then install Ubuntu
[00:05] <Scunizi> The latest update has really slowed my system down..
[00:06] <jeff3> I don't need Windows on the computer. If I lost the OS and personal docs it would be OK; I have the personal docs backed up on my flash drive.
[00:06] <mcphail> jeff3: then install ubuntu and ask it to take over the whole disk
[00:07] <madm1ke> jeff3: but make sure your backup is complete :)
[00:07] <mcphail> jeff3: no point keeping a broken OS
[00:08] <TimStarling> actually this one really is an ubuntu bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor/+bug/890894
[00:08] <jeff3> So all I need to do is burn an iso disc and load it into the drive? Even if I can't open Windows?
[00:08] <TimStarling> reported 13 days ago, no movement whatsoever
[00:08] <mcphail> jeff3: yes
[00:08] <TimStarling> I described the one-line fix required
[00:08] <jeff3> Great :) thanks!
[00:09] <TimStarling> how much better can a bug report get?
[00:09] <mcphail> jeff3: enjoy
[00:11] <steve84> hi i need some help with my webcam i dont know why but skype or cheese is not recognizing it im using ubuntu 11.10 on an LG-R280 laptop and i am a new linux user
[00:11] <steve84> i meant LG-R380 laptop
[00:11] <bombtrack01> Hey guys! I'm having problems with videos in Ubuntu. Everytime I try to open videos on Movie Player, it closes. If I try to play with VLC, the whole X restarts. When I try to open "OpenShot" (a video editor) X also restarts. Do you have any clue on what might be happening?
[00:13] <TimStarling> bombtrack01: have you checked the syslog?
[00:14] <steve84> hi i need some help with my webcam i dont know why but skype or cheese is not recognizing it im using ubuntu 11.10 on an LG-R380 laptop and i am a new linux user
[00:14] <bombtrack01> TimStarling, I've tried to read some files on var/log but didn't find anything. I guess I'm searching on the wrong place.
[00:14] <hylian> steve84, do you know the model number of that webcam, or is it a built in webcam?
[00:15] <bombtrack01> TimStarling, which file should I search for error outputs of this kind?
[00:15] <LivTyler> steve84: install and use guvcview
[00:16] <nixxofugi> i'm trying to use vnc and control a specific user session on my desktop. someone else is logged in and watching a movie currently. i am trying to access a different user account but all i get is a black screen
[00:16] <steve84>  hylian: its a built in webcam i also installed gucview and the model comes up as FS13FF 183 but have no idea that the heck that means
[00:16] <LivTyler> steve84: more info here  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UVC
[00:16] <bombtrack01> /whois $me
[00:18] <LivTyler> steve84: try "guvcview -d /dev/videoX" change X to 0 1 2 and test
[00:18] <steve84> LivTyler:  there is nothing on that link for ubuntu 11.10
[00:19] <nixxofugi> can anyone help me with vnc?
[00:19] <hylian> steve84, some of the new laptops have a slide cover over the built in webcams. see if there is a switch you can push with your finger above it to open the slide cover, or if you can actually see the lens.
[00:19] <steve84> ivTyler: Guvcview error:
[00:19] <steve84> Unable to open device
[00:19] <LivTyler> nixxofugi: and the question is ...
[00:19] <nixxofugi> [19:16] <nixxofugi> i'm trying to use vnc and control a specific user session on my desktop. someone else is logged in and watching a movie currently. i am trying to access a different user account but all i get is a black screen
[00:19] <LivTyler> steve84: gksudo guvcview -d /dev/videoX
[00:19] <steve84> hylian:  i dont have a lens cover on my laptop
[00:19] <mtkoan> why does chrome/firefox render fonts so much better in ubuntu than other distros?
[00:20] <LivTyler> steve84: you have to replace X with some number
[00:21] <hylian> steve84, well that's good. have you had any error messages come up during the use of cheese?
[00:21] <steve84> Guvcview error: Unable to start with minimum setup
[00:21] <steve84> hylian: no errors from cheese just black screen
[00:22] <nixxofugi> LivTyler: were you able to see my issue ...
[00:23] <hylian> steve84, strange, i am going to have to do some digging on this one...
[00:25] <LivTyler> nixxofugi: which server are you using? try x11vnc server and configure a shared session
[00:25] <nixxofugi> i am using x11
[00:25] <nixxofugi> what do you mean by shared session please?
[00:25] <LivTyler> nixxofugi: shared session means two users can interact with the same desktop
[00:26] <LivTyler> nixxofugi: at the same time
[00:26] <steve84> http://paste.ubuntu.com/753181/
[00:26] <nixxofugi> wonderful as that a command prompt option ? ex: x11vnc --sharedsession
[00:27] <LivTyler> nixxofugi: don't you have Xwindow access?
[00:27] <LivTyler> nixxofugi: there's a graphical wizard
[00:28] <nixxofugi> LivTyler: i don't see it
[00:29] <nixxofugi> LivTyler: actually, i get a display of the screen, but i am unable to interact with it. is this an xdamage issue?
[00:30] <hylian> steve84, i don't know what to tell you. I can't find even one reported case of a similar error with the lg r380... if you run the guvcview command intself in terminal, with something like this guvcview > info, it will dump everything that happens to a file in /home/steve (or whatever your username is) named info. from there maybe we can get some idea whats going on.
[00:30] <steve84> hylian:  how do i write the command i have no idea
[00:31] <LivTyler> nixxofugi: I don't think so, just try x11vnc -shared
[00:31] <nixxofugi> will do.
[00:31] <hylian> steve84, first to open a terminal window, you use control alt t. then type the guvcview > info command i told you about.
[00:31] <LivTyler> nixxofugi: there are some many options, I do prefer using the graphical assistant
[00:32] <nixxofugi> is it in the applications menu? i'm missing it.
[00:32] <Steak> I have a problem with space on my Ubuntu Live system... it says I have only 6mb of space left, so I can't install/uninstall/load anything.  I put all my stuff & data on a hard drive, so the filesystem should be empty except for the basic installation
[00:32] <steve84> hylian: http://paste.ubuntu.com/753189/
[00:33] <LivTyler> nixxofugi: Yes, I have it in the Internet menu
[00:33] <Steak> I have 3 gigs of RAM, and it recognizes it
[00:33] <nixxofugi> sorry i'm using 11.10. pretty sure there is no internet menu
[00:33] <LivTyler> nixxofugi: :) I use 10.04
[00:34] <Steak> although it does say "Disk 3.2 GB" in the System Info for Ubuntu 11.10
[00:34] <jazzanova> i upgraded from karmic to 10.04, and now my gnome desktop is totally broken.
[00:34] <jazzanova> all the windows are lacking the header bar
[00:34] <Steak> anyone know where I can find either the 'leak' or whatever's taking up the space?
[00:35] <hylian> steve84, it looks like guvcview is battling some other program for control of your webcam. was cheese or any other program running when you tried this?
[00:36] <devkorcvince> Steak did you install packages on it might be your apt cache try $ sudo apt-get clean
[00:36] <steve84> hylian: gucview is running should i close that and do it again?
[00:36] <jazzanova> how would I remove gnome desktop completeley and reinstall it back?
[00:37] <hylian> steve84, do you use gucview>
[00:38] <yggdrasil> hi, is there any way to use google docs in ubuntu while you are offline ?
[00:38] <gebbione> hi, when i transfer a huge file to my usb pen ... gnome is totally stuck. (I cannot move mouse or do anything else) Could you suggest why this happens and how to fix it?
[00:38] <nixxofugi> LivTyler: i found the gui and i set the shared option. but still no luck. unable to control the workspace, although i can see it
[00:38] <Steak> devkorcvince: just a few, VLC and 7zip really, nothing that would suck up all my RAM
[00:38] <Steak> on that note, what is the default memory footprint for Ubuntu Live 11.10
[00:38] <madm1ke_> yggdrasil: that would pretty much defeat the purpose of google docs, wouldn't it?
[00:38] <K3rmit> I'm not sure what to do. I'm upgrading ubuntu to Ubuntu 11.10 and with 3 minutes left in the install it is now stuck at "configuring livdevmapper-event1.02.1"
[00:39] <yggdrasil> uh
[00:39] <yggdrasil> well not really
[00:39] <yggdrasil> its called syncronization
[00:39] <K3rmit> and the system is frozen I can't move any windows.
[00:40] <Steak> devkorcvince: I did  $ sudo apt-get clean, it took about 5 seconds, and didn't return any messages, is that good or bad?
[00:40] <interdpth> Hey there, I installed 11 and can't seem to find terminal. Just wondering it ran off too
[00:40] <madm1ke_> yggdrasil: i think google's intention of their webapps is to keep track of every information you produce and store everything in their cloud
[00:40] <yggdrasil> right.
[00:40] <Steak> interdpth:  go to the icon in the top left which is a search, just type terminal
[00:41] <madm1ke_> yggdrasil: but still it might be possible, i just don't know.
[00:41] <yggdrasil> it would be a nice feature.
[00:41] <Steak> interdpth: you can just drag it to your launcher from there
[00:41] <yggdrasil> im gonna dig itnot it
[00:41] <yggdrasil> i be its a chrome thing..
[00:41] <devkorcvince> Steak: its good no harm done it deleted the 7zip and VLC deb packages only
[00:41] <yggdrasil> https://docs.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=1628467
[00:41] <yggdrasil> im gonna check it out.
[00:42] <interdpth> There it is!
[00:42] <interdpth> Thanks!@
[00:42] <hylian> madm1ke_, which is why i am a personal fan of duckduckgo.com.
[00:43] <steve84> hylian: cheese is still showing black screen
[00:44] <hylian> steve84, ok now lets run that same code again, guvcview  > info. this time it should just report that it's no longer there.
[00:44] <steve84> hylian: it says its not installed
[00:44] <devkorcvince> steve84: use camorama chesse got some issues on gstream v4lsrc in some machines...
[00:45] <steve84> hylian: give me a sec to install that
[00:45] <hylian> steve84, well then it wasn't a guvcview problem. hmmm.
[00:47] <steve84> hylian:  just to mention again that skype is not regonizing the cam as well
[00:48] <steve84> hylian: error (camorama) unable to capture image
[00:48] <hylian> steve84, i am gonna see if there is some special driver thats needed, although that would be a new one to me.
[00:49] <LivTyler> nixxofugi: are you using sudo?
[00:49] <nixxofugi> no.
[00:49] <yggdrasil> yar
[00:50] <steve84> hylian: what if i try reinstalling the driver
[00:54] <hylian> steve84, i have to admit I am stumped. according to the bboards, you do not need a special driver for that machine. I would suggest booting that machine with a live cd or live usb to see if the problem still continues, atleast that will give you a direction in which to troubleshoot.
[00:54] <K3rmit> I'm not sure what to do. I'm upgrading ubuntu to Ubuntu 11.10 and with 3 minutes left in the install it is now stuck at "configuring livdevmapper-event1.02.1" Now the system is frozen I can't move any windows.
[00:54] <K3rmit> Should I reboot the system. Will it screw up the upgrade?
[00:55] <hylian> steve84, just to mention, you would have to temporarily install cheese or guvcview, because I am pretty sure they are not on the live cd/usb image
[00:55] <nixxofugi> LivTyler: the weird thing is that i can move the mouse and watch it move, but unfortunately it won't click on anything
[00:55] <steve84> hylian: would that mean i would wipe my system and start new?
[00:56] <nixxofugi> LivTyler: i'm going to give up for a few hours... dinner time. thanks for your help this far
[00:56] <hylian> steve84, no, thats whats nice about the live cd/usb images, it's like that, but without actually messing anything up on the hard drive itself, it's a save our skins manuever.
[00:57] <hylian> steve84, did you install via a live cd or live usb?
[00:57] <steve84> i all new to this can u plz give me a rundown of what to do?
[00:57] <steve84> livecd
[00:57] <steve84> i actually didnt do i a friend did it
[00:58] <Steak> steve84: I'm on a Live CD as well
[00:58] <Steak> I think my hard drive is busted, but I have some other problem with my system as well, so I'm on here until I can figure out the problem
[00:58] <steve84> hylian: is a live cd the installer fro ununtu website what does live cd mean?
[00:59] <Steak> steve84: it lets you boot to a linux system without installing it to your hard drive
[00:59] <Steak> basically 'installs' it into RAM instead of a hard drive
[00:59] <xrfang> hello, I have installed vmware-view-client, whose postinst returns error (but the package itself is installed and working properly).
[01:00] <xrfang> now every time I install packages, it tells me fail due to the vmware's post install script
[01:00] <xrfang> how to remove this postinst from being launched every time?
[01:00] <yeats> xrfang: what is the error?
[01:00] <xmpx> hey room
[01:00] <xrfang> yeats: it try to install some usb stuff at /proc/.
[01:00] <hylian> steve84, sure. first you would reboot the machine with the live cd inside. then you could either use the terminal window (control alt t), or use ubuntu's software center, and install cheese that way. the live cd is a file you can download form ubuntu.com. you can use a program like brasero to burn it to cd, or you can use a program like unetbootin to put it on a usb thumb drive.
[01:00] <xrfang> but this is irrelevant to what I need.
[01:01] <xmpx> anyone good with getting two finger scrolling to work?
[01:01] <xmpx> have been working on it for 8+ hours and still no luck
[01:01] <zacarias> any idea of a good replacement for mac OS omnioutliner or a program that could read oo3 files?
[01:01] <yeats> xrfang: fair enough - good luck
[01:01] <xrfang> umount: /proc/bus/usb not found
[01:02] <xrfang> all I want is to PREVENT the broken post install script being lauched, every time I install OTHER packages
[01:02] <_Neytiri_> is there any knows issues with installing 11.10?
[01:03] <steve84> hylian: so i need to reboot with cd inside and have to cd drive boot first and then install ubuntu again? or there is options to test it i dont understand sorry
[01:04] <hylian> steve84, yes to reboot with cd, no to install. we just want to get a "virgin" copy of ubuntu up and running to see if there is a difference beetween that and your installed version.
[01:06] <wander236> hey does anyone here use ubuntu to play terrarai
[01:06] <wander236> i just want to know if anyone got it working
[01:06] <genoobie> hey I have an ubuntu flavor
[01:06] <wander236> terraria*
[01:06] <genoobie> I was interested in installing a network printer
[01:06] <hylian> steve84, so whan you reboot with the live cd, instead of choosing install, choose normal boot. ubuntu will boot in a live session. it will be running from your cd only.
[01:06] <steve84> hylian: will i be able to use pidgin and come back to the chat?
[01:07] <genoobie> the webpage with linux drivers is here
[01:07] <genoobie> http://www.samsung.com/us/support/downloads/ML-2851ND/XAA
[01:07] <steve84> or i can actually use my windows pc
[01:07] <genoobie> I'm looking for maximum compatibility (-junk)
[01:07] <genoobie> any suggestions on which of those files may be useful?
[01:07] <hylian> steve84, you would have to re-install it into your memory, which would be temporary. but yes you could. you will also have to re-install cheese temporarily to test that. xirc works very well also for chatting on this irc network.
[01:08] <pragmaticenigma> genoobie: typically you don't need drivers from the manufacture... in the settings menu under printers you will see the add printer wizard... follow the steps and your printer may already be supported... if not the wizard should give you the chance to install the custom drivers from the manufacture
[01:08] <hylian> steve84, i meant xchat, not xirc.
[01:10] <pragmaticenigma> anybody here familiar with OpenVPN server configurations? I have OpenVPN configured and working, I can access the VPN remotely, but I am unable to make connections outside of my home network (example, I can connect to my webserver hosted on my network, but I cannot connect to google.com)
[01:10] <genoobie> pragmaticenigma, what about ipp vs lpd/lpr
[01:11] <genoobie> any diff for compatibility's sake, etc?
[01:11] <pragmaticenigma> genoobie: is the printer connected to your computer or are you connecting to a network printer?
[01:11] <genoobie> network printer
[01:12] <pragmaticenigma> then IPP is probably going to be the correct choice
[01:12] <genoobie> there's lpd/lpr
[01:12] <genoobie> I mean lpd/lpr 'passthru'
[01:12] <Scunizi> I just switched my desktop boot option from Unity to KDE Plasma (option on the login screen if you've installed kubutu-desktop alongside Ubuntu).  It's *amazing* how much faster it is/feels ..
[01:12] <genoobie> but ipp is what I want?
[01:12] <genoobie> Scunizi, I just installed lubuntu, and I love it
[01:12] <genoobie> it is a rocket!
[01:13] <pragmaticenigma> genoobie: IPP stands for Internet Printing Protocol
[01:13] <pragmaticenigma> genoobie: that's why it should be the correct one... the wizard may also have the option to scan your network for a printer
[01:13] <Scunizi> genoobie: is your samsung an all in one printer?
[01:13] <xmpx> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/550625
[01:14] <genoobie> no not an all in one
[01:14] <genoobie> but it can do duplex
[01:14] <xmpx> it says my bug has a fix released, but how the F do i get the fix?
[01:14] <genoobie> I'd like to take advantage of all the options the printer has
[01:14] <xmpx> it says my bug has a fix released, but how the F do i get the fix?
[01:14] <genoobie> one of the options is to provide a PPD file
[01:14] <cryptk> hello all, slightly more technical question... is pbuilder still considered a "current way" of building packages?
[01:15] <steve84> hylian: i am going to sign in to irc through my windows pc
[01:15] <pragmaticenigma> genoobie: Use the recommeded one if available
[01:15] <yeats> !packaging | cryptk
[01:15] <Scunizi> genoobie: I have 2 SS printers.. a ML-2010 works without installing anything .. and a MFC-7440N network printer.. the network printer I had to get the drivers from Samsung.. sometimes they require lpd with a cups wrapper..
[01:15] <genoobie> pragmaticenigma, there is a recommended one
[01:15] <hylian> steve84, ok that will work too.
[01:15] <genoobie> you wouldn't suggest downloading any of these files and providing a PPD?
[01:15] <pragmaticenigma> genoobie: I would install that one then
[01:15] <genoobie> http://www.samsung.com/us/support/downloads/ML-2851ND/XAA
[01:15] <cryptk> yeats, you rock... thanks!
[01:15] <fridgerator> i just insalled ubuntu 11.10, installed my proprietary ATI graphics drivers, then installed gnome-shell because I like it more than unity.  It seems the ATI drivers do not work well with gnome 3 yet, is there any way to revert back to the default graphics driver for now?
[01:16] <yeats> cryptk: happy to help ;-)
[01:16] <Scunizi> genoobie: also.. installing them is typically a multi step process.. not all features are available on linux like they are with a Mac or win machine.
[01:16] <pragmaticenigma> genoobie: No, the recommended one has all the supported features in it already, it's been tested and known to work with Ubuntu
[01:16] <jrogge> hey is there a command for finding out if i'm running a 64 bit or 32 bit computer?
[01:16] <jrogge> in the terminal i mean
[01:16] <_Neytiri_> i am having issues installing ubuntu 11.10
[01:16] <steve841> hylian: on widows now
[01:17] <pragmaticenigma> jrogge: command "uname -a" look for i686 or x86_64
[01:17] <AymanZan> guys i'm trying to run eggdrop !
[01:17] <AymanZan> why i can'ts?
[01:17] <AndroidLoverInSF> is doing a 'sudo apt-get update' from command line the same as checking, then applying all the updates from Update Manager GUI?
[01:17] <genoobie> pragmaticenigma, so ubuntu has already included this in their database?
[01:17] <cryptk> my plan is to make a system that can grab the source package for something, from the repo for distro X, apply a patch that you supply, and then build and package it for distro Y
[01:17] <pragmaticenigma> genoobie: Correct
[01:17] <_Neytiri_> its failing at the bootloader install
[01:18] <genoobie> pragmaticenigma, not trying to argue, but doesn't it seem like the manufacturer site would have the better driver since it mentions linux
[01:18] <AymanZan> Guys how i can see all the programs i'm running to kill them?
[01:18] <xmpx> can someone help me with synaptics and my trackpad?
[01:18] <cryptk> the primary purpose being to backport packages, or apply custom configurations to packages, that way they are the way you want them out of the box
[01:18] <Scunizi> AndroidLoverInSF: to do a full terminal update it's.. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade .. and *no* dist-upgrade doesn't take you to the next release..
[01:18] <genoobie> pragmaticenigma, just trying to understand
[01:18] <xmpx> please and thank you
[01:18] <hylian> steve841, ok now put the ubnutu cd into the lg laptop, and boot to the cd.
[01:18] <cryptk> oh, and dump those packages into a repo... this will mainly be targeted at people who administer multiple servers
[01:18] <pragmaticenigma> genoobie: No, their drivers may or may not work... the ones supplied by Ubuntu are going to work
[01:18] <fridgerator> AymanZan: top
[01:18] <cryptk> this way you could install the php5 package from your repo and you get it with the config you want right off the start
[01:19] <genoobie> pragmaticenigma, the printer listed is the samsung 2552, but mine is a 2851
[01:19] <sharpK> does anyone here have experience sharing a wireless printer through samba (with ubuntu as a server) to windows computers on the network?
[01:19] <jrogge> pragmaticenigma: and if it comes up with x86_86 that means i'm running 64? i used to know but i forgot, and i was pretty sure i'm running 64
[01:19] <genoobie> should I worry?
[01:19] <pragmaticenigma> genoobie: I have never installed the manufactures drivers for any of my devices... it is usually more frustrating and harder than to install something that is already made available by the built in drivers
[01:19] <genoobie> right, harder, but is there a greater potential reward?
[01:19] <pragmaticenigma> jrogge: You are correct, x86_64 means your running the 64bit Kernel
[01:20] <jrogge> thanks a bunch!
[01:20] <pauluntu> is there an easy way to update the kernel to 3.1 on 11.10.  the kernel by default has issues with my webcam and 3.1 fixes it.  I tried downloading the files and installing them but now the system wont boot so I guess I didn't do it right
[01:20] <pragmaticenigma> genoobie: Not usually
[01:20] <genoobie> okay.
[01:20] <genoobie> test page seems to have worked anyhow
[01:20] <pragmaticenigma> genoobie: In most cases there might be a feature or two not supported, but it's very rare... most of the time the built in drivers are derived from the drivers on the manufacture website
[01:21] <genoobie> okay cool.
[01:21] <genoobie> pragmaticenigma, thanks for all the help
[01:21] <pragmaticenigma> genoobie: So your saving yourself a lot of time, and you will automatically get updates if a new feature becomes supported or a bug is found
[01:21] <genoobie> btw, I am so sold on lubuntu I am going to donate money
[01:22] <_Neytiri_> can i get some help with a 11.10 install issue?
[01:23] <xangua> pauluntu: there are precompiled packages
[01:23] <xangua> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[01:24] <madm1ke_> _Neytiri_: shoot - don't ask
[01:24] <Scunizi> _Neytiri_: what's the issue
[01:24] <_Neytiri_> its not booting
[01:24] <pauluntu> xangua, i did it that way but its not booting stuck at the ubuntu 11.10 loading screen
[01:24] <_Neytiri_> during the installit again had a issue with the bootloader install but this time when i tried again it went through
[01:25] <_Neytiri_> but i cant get the os to boot
[01:25] <Scunizi> _Neytiri_: have you got more than one drive in the machine?
[01:25] <_Neytiri_> yes
[01:25] <Scunizi> _Neytiri_: reboot and enter your bios.. change the boot drive to the other one and see what happens..
[01:26] <Scunizi> _Neytiri_: most likely Grub ended up on the wrong drive.
[01:26] <pauluntu> I think the problem is the nvidia driver how do i get it to work with the new 3.1 kernel?
[01:27] <_Neytiri_> only one of the drives is bootable so
[01:29] <_Neytiri_> still not working
[01:30] <Scunizi> _Neytiri_: what happens when you try to boot..? do you get a menu? or blank screen or "no bootable media"?
[01:30] <_Neytiri_> i get a screen with _ flashing
[01:30] <Scunizi> _Neytiri_: what kind of video card?
[01:31] <_Neytiri_> Nvidia Gforce 9400
[01:31] <Scunizi> _Neytiri_: is the system sitting at that prompt now?
[01:31] <_Neytiri_> yes
[01:32] <Scunizi> _Neytiri_: do a CTRL+ALT+F2 and see if it changes.
[01:32] <pauluntu> darn guess ill have to go to opensuse till they update the kernel cause it just wont boot with 3.1 and 3.0 is unable to use my webcam this sucks
[01:32] <_Neytiri_> nothing
[01:32] <TheBuntu> is ubuntu on Reiser4 or 3
[01:33] <xubuntu> hello
[01:33] <xmpx> can someone please help me with synaptics?
[01:33] <Scunizi> _Neytiri_: try rebooting and hold the (I think it's) Alt key down.. if not the alt key then the control key.. should give you a grub menu
[01:33] <Scunizi> TheBuntu: ext4 is the default
[01:33] <xubuntu> what's your problem ??
[01:34] <_Neytiri_> grub isnt even showing up
[01:34] <TheBuntu> Scunizi, i know that... but on the ReiserFS is it 3 or 4
[01:34] <pipegeek> Can I use debconf-set-selections to reconfigure an installed package?  It seems that dpkg-reconfigure -fnoninteractive isn't respecting the debconf preseed value I set just prior to running it.
[01:34] <Scunizi> _Neytiri_: is this a dual boot system?
[01:35] <_Neytiri_> no
[01:35] <Scunizi> TheBuntu: no idea.. I thought Reiser was unmaintained despite my liking it so I moved away..
[01:35] <Scunizi> _Neytiri_: any issues when you installed.. errors and such?  did you manually partition?
[01:35] <xubuntu> help me please, i hear voices in my Xubuntu
[01:36] <Artemis3> TheBuntu, probably 3 if someone manually made a reiserfs partition
[01:37] <_Neytiri_> yes i manually partitioned, and yes there was a error with installing the bootloader, but when i retried it worked
[01:37] <xubuntu> Artemis3 i love you
[01:37] <xmpx> are you my mother? can you help me?
[01:37] <TheBuntu> Artemis3, dont have to manually.. ReiserFS is in the ubuntu install... im just trying to figure out if its 3 or 4
[01:37] <xubuntu> lol
[01:38] <Artemis3> TheBuntu, unless you choose to manual partition, you just can't, ubuntu defaults to ext4
[01:38] <Scunizi> _Neytiri_: give me a brief rundown on how you partitioned.. which was first, second, third, FS type etc..
[01:39] <TheBuntu> Artemis3, i know that... I always use ext4... im woundering about Reiser4
[01:40] <xubuntu> i've not girlfriend, can you help me?
[01:40] <_Neytiri_> ok the system has 4 harddrives 2 36.7 gig and 2 250 gig drives
[01:40] <Artemis3> TheBuntu, iirc, reiser4 needs an unofficial kernel patch, which is why you seldom see it, while reiser3 did made it to the kernel back then. Anyway this fs is deprecated, and debian installer already removed the option and the tools from a default install
[01:40] <_Neytiri_> the 36.7 drivers are raided via the bios for raid 0
[01:40] <_Neytiri_> the 250/s are mirrored
[01:41] <Skaperen> anyone know what is wrong with the rsync package here ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1888214 ... one point of interest is that another machine with the same version of ubuntu and rsync works just fine and it does not have the config file either
[01:41] <_Neytiri_>    / is the first partition on the raid0 (36.7) gig drives, swap is the next partition on the raid0 drives
[01:41] <xubuntu> is more easy Windows ... lol
[01:42] <_Neytiri_>    /home/user/Desktop/SITE_SHIT is the first partiton on the second drives(mirrored) /home is the next partition
[01:42] <Scunizi> _Neytiri_: ok.. that might be part of it.. raid and mirrored drives I remember reading/hearing that it makes it more difficult to do an install.. this has just reached the limits of my ability with that configuration so hopefully someone will be able to step in and help out.. you may also ask on ##linux and #ubutu-server
[01:42] <Scunizi> gotta AFK for a while.
[01:42] <_Neytiri_> irs raided in the bios tho
[01:43] <_Neytiri_> shouldnt it be seen as 1 drive?
[01:43] <TheBuntu> ok so its reiser3 then that ubuntu will format partition to!! Was just woundering!!
[01:44] <Jodorowsky> hello guys, what's the  most fast, in Lunux, i h've installed in my Pc Xubuntu
[01:44] <Artemis3> TheBuntu, yes.
[01:44] <optimusM> anyone know about merging?
[01:45] <optimusM> thats a dumb question sorry. how do i meege two files?
[01:45] <optimusM> merge**
[01:45] <_Neytiri_> how much space do i need for the bootloader??
[01:46] <bwilkinson> Could anyone help me out with a data recovery problem? I'm using testdisk and am trying to recover my home directory. It appears in the list of directories but it has a "?" in the permissions area and has zero values for the other columns. Any idea what is going on here?
[01:46] <Jodorowsky> bwilkinson, forget it !!
[01:50] <CrazyThinker> Is there any way to show the unity launcher on multiple screens?
[01:51] <Skaperen> is there a better channel to ask about package breakage?
[01:53] <milamber> Skaperen: probably not, what is going on?
[01:54] <joolawan> hi
[01:54] <joolawan> everybody use the ubuntu 11.10 or not?
[01:55] <milamber> CrazyThinker: i don't believe so at the moment. i am on 10.04 myself but there hasn't been much (anything) positive said about unity's multiscreen support
[01:55] <milamber> joolawan: nope, not everybody. there are quite a few that stick to the lts releases
[01:56] <joolawan> it's stable or not about ubuntu 11.10?
[01:57] <milamber> joolawan: it is the current release, can you be more specific?
[01:57] <CrazyThinker> milamber, Thanks
[01:57] <_Neytiri_> where does the live cd mount the harddrives?
[01:58] <JAQUR> HI ALL
[01:58] <joolawan> Now, I use the ubuntu 11.10 but I can't sync the iphone 4 with it.
[01:58] <joolawan> But the previous I can sync.
[01:59] <milamber> _Neytiri_: to show all the mounts do: sudo fdisk -l
[01:59] <joolawan> I don't use what 's happen.
[01:59] <JAQUR> R U TALKING ABOUT MOBILES
[01:59] <JAQUR> ?
[02:00] <joolawan> it show the icon but it can't mount by ubuntu 11.10.
[02:00] <_Neytiri_> milamber, i am running in the lIVE cd
[02:00] <joolawan> yes i mean the mobile.
[02:00] <joolawan> about iphone 4g
[02:00] <joolawan> anyone like me?
[02:01] <milamber> _Neytiri_: shouldn't matter . . . you can also try: df
[02:01] <xangua> joolawan: do you use iOS 5¿
[02:01] <joolawan> This 11.10 not support iphone 4g or not.
[02:01] <joolawan> I use ios 4.3.3
[02:02] <xangua> then you should be able to mount your iphone joolawan, tried gtkpod¿
[02:03] <xangua> installed all updates also¿
[02:03] <joolawan> I feel happend with iphone 4g that can sync with ubuntu before.
[02:06] <pauluntu> I updated the kernel from 3.0 to 3.1.4 so my webcam would would.  Problem is its stuck on the purple looking blank screen.  I'm guessing the issue is the Nvidia driver.  How do i get the nvidia driver to configure itself to run on my new kernel
[02:09] <milamber> pauluntu: i don't know much about the driver, but holding right shift while booting should at least get you into a terminal
[02:09] <oioi> hi, my ssh server dosnt survive a reboot on ubuntu 11.10
[02:09] <oioi> its a pretty clean install
[02:10] <oioi> waht could be wrong ?
[02:10] <CarlFK> oioi: mine does
[02:10] <milamber> oioi: how did you install it?
[02:10] <oioi> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[02:11] <oioi> then edited the config for my needs and restarted
[02:11] <Skaperen> milamber: what is going on is that apt-get install keeps getting errors due to rsync not finding its config file ... but other machines don't have rsync config files and they are OK ... now I think it is the rsync version
[02:11] <Skaperen> milamber: looks like rsync got upgraded on this machine and the install won't finish
[02:11] <oioi> ive installed bootup manager to check and it wasnt enabled there, i checked it and rebooted, still not running
[02:11] <milamber> oioi: it's probably something in the config then
[02:13] <oioi> http://pastebin.com/81ZnCUR5
[02:13] <Skaperen> milamber: I'm going to try to see if I can get it to back down a version since I released the version really is different
[02:13] <oioi> maybe helps?
[02:13] <oioi> loks decent to me
[02:14] <captainsuperfant> hi
[02:15] <captainsuperfant> hello all .. is the correct place to ask for help about 11.10 upgrade issues?
[02:15] <CarlFK> captainsuperfant: yes
[02:15] <milamber> oioi: what is the output of: sudo service ssh status
[02:15] <Skaperen> milamber: is it plausible that the packager of rsync goofed this version and inserted something that expected it to be configured
[02:16] <captainsuperfant> cheers CarlFK... do i ask now or wait for other chats to finish?
[02:16] <CarlFK> captainsuperfant: ask now
[02:16] <captainsuperfant> ta :)
[02:16] <milamber> Skaperen: probably not - i think there would be a lot more people here
[02:16] <jdavidboyd> in ubuntu 11.10, is there any way to turn Unity off, or am I stuck with it?
[02:16] <jdavidboyd> I prefer the old menus
[02:16] <aeon-ltd> !nounity
[02:16] <oioi> milamber: ssh stop/waiting
[02:16] <milamber> !notunity | jdavidboyd
[02:16] <Skaperen> milamber: well, downgrade failed because it can't find it
[02:17] <jdavidboyd> got it, thanks all.
[02:17] <Skaperen> milamber: so any idea what is wrong with the package?  the error messages are here ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1888214
[02:17] <joolawan> I install gtkpod already, but now I can't also.
[02:17] <CarlFK> oioi: "Incorrect RSA1 identifier"  what's that mean?
[02:18] <captainsuperfant> upgraded 11.04 -> 11.10 .... only login is guest and root via "others" .... have removed .Xauthority,  chown -R ~/home for the non-root users but still LDM accepts password and just goes back to login prompt ...
[02:18] <milamber> oioi: http://blog.roberthallam.org/2010/06/sshd-not-running-at-startup/
[02:18] <captainsuperfant> also changed ~/.drmc to be gnome-classic
[02:19] <milamber> Skaperen: did you do a purge?
[02:19] <captainsuperfant> any other clues/suggestions wld b gr8
[02:20] <oioi> so the solution is to set listen ip to 0.0.0.0 ? would be no problem since my router gives a static ip..
[02:20] <CarlFK> captainsuperfant: no clue, but seems sensible to start by restoring  ~/.drmc
[02:21] <captainsuperfant> yep done that
[02:21] <Make_Dots> how to install offline gstreamer extra plugin on hardy?
[02:21] <Spearlite> hello there?
[02:21] <captainsuperfant> i have gnome-power-manager not found errors in the /var/log/
[02:21] <Skaperen> milamber: yes ... the config files are removed ... well, actually did not ever exist
[02:22] <milamber> oioi: no, you have to edit /etc/init.d/ssh and add $network
[02:22] <Skaperen> milamber: the install error is that the config file is missing (and it's missing on other machines that work OK)
[02:22] <jdavidboyd> no, it doesn't seem that gnome-tweak-tool will do anything about that.  Or do I need to restart first.
[02:22] <Skaperen> milamber: normally they would split a client and server package, but for sync its the very same executable, so that's out
[02:23] <Skaperen> for rsync
[02:23] <Skaperen> otherwise I'd just install client ... I don't want a server
[02:23] <milamber> Skaperen: the actual error is coming from dpkg, not rsync, did you run: sudo apt-get remove --purge rsync    ?
[02:24] <Make_Dots> what the package name of gstreamer extra plugins
[02:24] <Skaperen> milamber: yes
[02:24] <oioi_> thanks, this worked!!
[02:24] <Make_Dots> exit
[02:24] <milamber> Skaperen: what is the output of: sudo apt-get check
[02:25] <milamber> oioi: no problem
[02:25] <Skaperen> milamber: "Reading package lists... Done" / "Building dependency tree" / "Reading state information... Done"
[02:25] <CarlFK> make_dots: sudo apt-add-repository --assume-yes ppa:gstreamer-developers/ppa && sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad
[02:25] <captainsuperfant> oh well time to down grade to 11.04  :(((  thanks CarlFK for answering much apr8
[02:25] <Skaperen> milamber: that's all it outputs, those 3 lines
[02:26] <Skaperen> milamber: it is right now not installed (again)
[02:26] <ga_pro1988> anybody help me??
[02:26] <milamber> Skaperen: ok, have you done: sudo apt-get clean
[02:26] <brjannc> Has anyone had any luck getting the SD card reader working on a Dell XPS 15 L502X? Doesn't look like it's even showing up in lspci
[02:26] <captainsuperfant> what s up ga_pro
[02:26] <ga_pro1988> i want to install software
[02:26] <Skaperen> not yet, I can now
[02:26] <Skaperen> ok ... no output at all
[02:26] <captainsuperfant> what?
[02:26] <ga_pro1988> but i don't find libgtk
[02:27] <milamber> Skaperen: ok, try to install again
[02:27] <ga_pro1988> library libgtk
[02:27] <captainsuperfant> rtm... apt-get?
[02:27] <ga_pro1988> king Dependency: gtk-devel...
[02:27] <ga_pro1988>     *** Object `gtk-config' not found in defined platform paths! ***
[02:27] <Skaperen> milamber: OK ... BTW (this could be important) this is karmic with sources.list referring to old-releases
[02:27] <ga_pro1988> i have been try install by apt-get
[02:27] <ga_pro1988> but not found
[02:27] <milamber> Skaperen: yeah . . . we'll see what happens
[02:28] <milamber> ga_pro1988: here is how to find it - do: sudo apt-cache search libgtk
[02:28] <ga_pro1988> i have been by command apt-cahce
[02:28] <Skaperen> milamber: it installed this time ... so one of those steps cleared it up ... \o/
[02:28] <Skaperen> milamber: thanks!
[02:28] <milamber> ga_pro1988: you don't really need the sudo (force of habit)
[02:28] <ga_pro1988> but too much
[02:29] <naptastic> Package dhcp3-server is installed; I did dpkg-reconfigure dhcp3-server. But there is no entry for it in /etc/init.d, and service dhcp3-server says unrecognized service. What gives?
[02:29] <OerHeks> !info libgtk
[02:29] <captainsuperfant> apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[02:29] <ga_pro1988> and not found
[02:29] <milamber> Skaperen: no problem - the real problem was with the package manager, not rsync - you can tell because dpkg was throwing the error. apt-get clean clears out all the packages it was trying to install
[02:29] <ga_pro1988> yes
[02:29] <ga_pro1988> i have been install too
[02:29] <Skaperen> milamber: BTW, this is all being triggered by moving stuff around to get everything upgraded to LTS
[02:29] <milamber> ga_pro1988: what version of ubuntu?
[02:30] <ga_pro1988> but it still error
[02:30] <ga_pro1988> 11
[02:30] <captainsuperfant> 11 . xxx ??
[02:30] <Skaperen> milamber: and that upgrade will be a mess ... since I'm 2500 miles from the console
[02:30] <milamber> Skaperen: i really like 10.04, i am going to be sad when i have to upgrade :-/
[02:30] <captainsuperfant> milamber dont up!
[02:30] <jizzy> Is there anyway to load grub over again after shutting down linux without actually restarting?
[02:30] <Skaperen> milamber: well, hopefully 12.04 will be decent ... (at least in server edition)
[02:30] <captainsuperfant> i just totaly killed my server
[02:31] <captainsuperfant> milamber...
[02:31] <captainsuperfant> going back to 11.04
[02:31] <captainsuperfant> such a waste of time up...
[02:31] <Skaperen> captainsuperfant: you did 11.10 on server?
[02:32] <captainsuperfant> server build with desktop ontop
[02:32] <milamber> captainsuperfant: i have to eventually
[02:32] <usr13> captainsuperfant: Looks like Skaperen is about to tell you what I would....
[02:32] <captainsuperfant> ??
[02:32] <Skaperen> captainsuperfant: and what was bad?  (fyi, I don't but gui in my servers)
[02:32] <usr13> captainsuperfant: See my pm
[02:32] <captainsuperfant> need gui interface for users
[02:32] <ga_pro1988> oh
[02:32] <usr13> captainsuperfant: Why?
[02:33] <captainsuperfant> i'm long story
[02:33] <Skaperen> captainsuperfant: on the console, or users just ssh in and expect X clients?
[02:33] <captainsuperfant> all to hard for them they use remote desktop
[02:33] <captainsuperfant> thats their requirement....
[02:33] <milamber> ga_pro1988: what version of ubuntu? not sure - do: lsb_release -r
[02:34] <usr13> captainsuperfant: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[02:34] <Skaperen> captainsuperfant: so they don't want all the speed and power of having Unity on their own {desk,lap}top ?
[02:34] <ga_pro1988> Checking Dependency: gtk-devel...
[02:34] <ga_pro1988>     *** Object `gtk-config' not found in defined platform paths! ***
[02:34] <ga_pro1988> \
[02:35] <captainsuperfant> speed and power?  finding it slower than g2 classic...
[02:35] <ga_pro1988> anybody know about it??
[02:35] <milamber> ga_pro1988: you are not providing anyone with the information they are asking for and that looks like you are trying to build something on your system. what version of ubuntu are you using and what are you trying to build?
[02:35] <Skaperen> FYI, I'm switching my desktop to Xfce
[02:35] <captainsuperfant> i use it on new lenovo x220 8gb ram i5 core and unity is slower than gclassic
[02:36] <usr13> Skaperen: Very good.  (You'll prolly like it.)  I find it easy to use and easy to customize.
[02:36] <captainsuperfant> mmm looks nice
[02:37] <Skaperen> usr13: yes, that was the motivating reason
[02:37] <crazymutex> upgrade to xubuntu :)
[02:37] <ga_pro1988> i use ubuntu 11.04
[02:37] <jeepkid> hi.anybody here??wow && I hava a litter trouble,someone who can help me???
[02:37] <ga_pro1988> i'm trying install software AVscan
[02:37]  * Skaperen has too MANY computers here at the moment, juggling things around between LinuxMint, Slackware, and Ubuntu
[02:38]  * Skaperen got rid of Fedora about 3 years ago
[02:38] <usr13> Skaperen: I've been using xfce for some time now and it's pretty nice.  You'll find the folks at #xfce very helpful (if you need them).
[02:38] <milamber> !info libgtk2.0-dev natty
[02:38] <Skaperen> usr13: they are ... I've been hanging on #xfce a while now
[02:38] <usr13> Skaperen: I use xfce on my slackware box too.
[02:38] <ga_pro1988> i have been install libgtk2.0
[02:39] <milamber> ga_pro1988: do: sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[02:39] <usr13> Skaperen: Ok, well then, you already know
[02:39] <milamber> ga_pro1988: the -dev is different
[02:39] <ga_pro1988> but it still error
[02:39] <ga_pro1988> Object `gtk-config' not found in defined platform paths! ***
[02:39] <ga_pro1988>     *** Could not find all dependencies for required feature `libgtk'! ***
[02:39] <Skaperen> usr13: that's where I first tried Xfce ... so I'm in the process of switching my 'buntu box over to Xfce ... and later the mint box
[02:39] <captainsuperfant> thanks all ciao... rolling back to 11.04 to get some breathing space for more options.... maybe i'll install Mac OSX
[02:39] <captainsuperfant> hahahahahha
[02:39] <naptastic> Did the service name for DHCP change between Maverick and Natty?
[02:39] <captainsuperfant> just kidding
[02:39] <ga_pro1988> yes i know
[02:39] <usr13> Skaperen: I'm sure you'll like Ubuntu's implementation
[02:40] <Skaperen> usr13: I'll just do a reinstall for that with xubuntu ... then do over for 12.04
[02:40] <usr13> Skaperen: Just do  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[02:40] <ga_pro1988> what's happend??
[02:40] <milamber> captainsuperfant: backups please ~ rolling back is *not* supported - oh, and backups
[02:41] <Skaperen> usr13: as long as my kvm-qemu virtual machines work on it, I'm sure I'll be happy
[02:41] <captainsuperfant> yer got those running all the time...
[02:41] <captainsuperfant> chrs for reminder
[02:41] <captainsuperfant> :)
[02:41] <Skaperen> usr13: I have KDE on there now ... and I need to remove KDE ... I have found that KDE and Xfce do not play well together
[02:42] <jeepkid> My ubuntu version is 10.04 and gnome 2.3 ,I install gtk3.2 developed environment yesterday....but now,the desktop unnormal
[02:42] <usr13> Skaperen: Doesn't seem to bother my slackware box
[02:42] <Skaperen> usr13: it looks like it runs OK but KDE menus pollute Xfce menus
[02:43] <usr13> ... but wouldn't hurt to remove it ...
[02:43] <Skaperen> usr13: something was set up wrong in KDE menu configs where they didn't exclude themselves when another WM is running
[02:43] <Skaperen> KDE people thinking "no one would ever use anything else"
[02:43] <usr13> Skaperen: I'm not sure how the KDE menus would pollute the xfce menus.
[02:44] <milamber> usr13: the desktop packages are meta packages - they won't actually remove much
[02:44] <Skaperen> usr13: there is some standard for format and placement of menu files ... the menus have entries for both KDE tools and Xfce tools
[02:45] <milamber> !gnome3 | jeepkid
[02:45] <Skaperen> there was supposed to be a config setting in them ... forget what it was called as I found out about this a few months ago ... that Xfce did right (e.g. Xfce tools won't show when KDE is running)
[02:47] <Skaperen> usr13: anyway, I forget the details now, but I remember that there were tools in the menus that didn't work, and it turned out they were KDE tools ... I figure that out because KDE has a limit on number of desktops and I was all too familiar with that tool ... and ran across it when running Xfce
[02:48] <Skaperen> usr13: I reinstalled w/o KDE and the menus were smaller and thinsg worked better
[02:48] <usr13> Skaperen: I only use 2 virtual desktops
[02:48] <jeepkid> ubottu, but I just want install the gtk3.0 to developed the app
[02:48] <jeepkid> - -|
[02:48] <usr13> jeepkid: You need to use the package manager
[02:49] <Skaperen> usr13: I use 36
[02:49] <andyjjones11> hi :  )
[02:49] <Skaperen> usr13: I have way too much going on managing a flock of servers
[02:49] <usr13> Skaperen: 36?  You've got to be joking!
[02:49] <Skaperen> usr13: 40 on an older Slackware 12 box
[02:50] <Skaperen> usr13: and I top that off with 60 text consoles
[02:50] <Skaperen> but the text is only on the old slack box
[02:50] <usr13> How on earth could you find the need to have 40 Virtual Desktops?
[02:50] <Skaperen> newer video hardware is now fast enough that I'm migrating all my text usage over to graphical term windows
[02:50] <waren> sup guys , anyone knows if msn can be used on ubuntu?
[02:51] <xangua> !msn | waren
[02:51] <usr13> What do you meen  text consoles?
[02:51] <Skaperen> usr13: each has lots of terms and apps open to manage various servers
[02:51] <marcelofroes> hi guys. i am trying to find a download manager to install on my ubuntu server that i could start through command line and it has a web based communication that  has support to torrent, magnet, ftp, http, ed2k, etc ?
[02:51] <Skaperen> usr13: plus about a dozen for various web sites I keep browsers open on
[02:51] <usr13> Skaperen: Why not just use different terminal windows?
[02:52] <Jordan_U> _Neytiri_: Are you still having problems booting?
[02:52] <Skaperen> usr13: that's what I'm migrating too
[02:52] <Skaperen> to
[02:52] <usr13> Skaperen: Wow, you really stay connected!
[02:52] <jordan> marcelofroes: I don't think a utility like that exists on linux or anywhere else AFAIK
[02:52] <Skaperen> I suppose I do :)
[02:53] <usr13> Do you only have one window open on each Virtual Desktop?
[02:53] <jordan> marcelofroes: transmission will handle server/web/cli for torrents but not ftp/ed2k/etc
[02:53] <jeepkid> usr13, yes,but there are olddddd... version.
[02:53] <_Neytiri_> yes
[02:54] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | _Neytiri_
[02:54] <marcelofroes> jordan, transmission would need X ... which goes against the server policy
[02:54] <usr13> jeepkid: Old version of what?
[02:54] <jordan> marcelofroes: transmission-daemon doesn't require X
[02:54] <Skaperen> usr13: you don't even want to know how many screen sessions are involved ... FYI, I integrated ssh and screen together into one command that I set up under command_not_found_handle() so I can just go there by a command of "user@host" or "user+session@host"
[02:55] <Jordan_U> marcelofroes: transmission has a terminal based interface as well, transmission-cli.
[02:55] <xangua> marcelofroes: Jordan transmission also has a gui interface
[02:55] <marcelofroes> humm.
[02:55] <xangua> i mean terminal, like jordan said ;)
[02:55] <marcelofroes> so orrent there is one.
[02:55] <usr13> Skaperen: Do you keep a chart showing what you have open on the 40 different Desktops?
[02:56] <marcelofroes> what about a ftp/http with login/pass functionality ?
[02:56] <usr13> How could you possibly know which one to go to...?
[02:57] <Jordan_U> _Neytiri_: If you can pastebin the RESULTS.txt from boot info script I can probably tell you what's going wrong.
[02:57] <_Neytiri_> i cant getthe system i am having issues with on the network
[02:58] <usr13> _Neytiri_: You don't have a thumb drive?
[02:58] <Skaperen> usr13: no chart ... after ages of doing the same, I can usually find stuff
[02:59] <jeepkid> usr13, The gtk version is 2.30 but i want install the gtk3.2developed environment
[02:59] <_Neytiri_> i do but its in use
[02:59] <usr13> Skaperen: Sounds too complicated to me.
[02:59] <Skaperen> usr13: mentally, I am a very position oriented person ... I can remember something is "there" but not remember its number :=\
[02:59] <xangua> jeepkid: you can develop gtk3 on a gtk3 enviroment, oneiric uses gnome/gtk3 ;)
[03:00] <Skaperen> usr13: for example to do 60 text consoles I had to expand on the keymap that otherwise does Alt+F1 .. Alt+F12 ... so now it is Alt+(one of lots of keys on the keyboard)
[03:00] <joolawan> Does anyone have this problem like me?
[03:00] <joolawan> about sync iphone 4
[03:01] <Skaperen> usr13: so if Alt+Q is logged on to "foo" I'll remember that in terms of the key position, not that it's letter "Q"
[03:01] <usr13> Skaperen: So you really do have more than 7 console terminals?
[03:01] <Skaperen> usr13: and I can do that with a grid of virtual desktops, even though I have compiz sliding it around ... as long as I have visual feedback and know where to go
[03:02] <Skaperen> usr13: 63 consoles are enabled ... 60 are text ... 3 are each of 3 X instances ... on the slackware box
[03:02] <usr13> That is incredable
[03:02] <usr13> ... and I have trouble keeping up with the other 6 ....
[03:02] <Luke> http://hpaste.org/54631 I'm trying to make a test for my snap-hdbc code. can someone help me resolve this error?
[03:03] <slade--> hey i just picked up an ubuntu virtual server that was 10.04.. i did the upgrades to 11.10, but it claims i'm using the 2.6 kernel still.. and theres all kinds of crazy stuff missing (like the /etc/rc.* directories)   does anyone have any clue how i can refresh this?
[03:03] <Jordan_U> _Neytiri_: Did you manually select where grub should be installed to in the Ubuntu installer?
[03:03] <Skaperen> the 3 X servers are each running 32 virtual desktops with fvwm ... it's method is a side grid to click on ... so 96 total virtual graphical desktops and 60 text console desktops ... on a machine with 2GB RAM
[03:04] <Skaperen> usr13: and that's an OLD AGP box
[03:04] <joolawan> why some package of ubuntu is  ok , but ubuntu remove it and make bug.
[03:04] <blognewb> hello?
[03:04] <_Neytiri_> Jordan_U, the first time no, the second time yes, and every time afterwoerd
[03:04] <slade--> wow my /boot directory is empty too..
[03:04] <Skaperen> usr13: the newest box here running Ubuntu 10.10 still doing Gnome has 12GB of RAM ... 36 graphical desktops
[03:05] <usr13> slade--: So you upgraded from 10.04 to 11.10 all at once?
[03:05] <Jordan_U> slade--: Many virtualization host's platform's keep the bootloader and kernels managed outside the VM instance. This sounds more like a question about how your particular host handles things than an Ubuntu question.
[03:05] <cipherboy> What is up with 11.10 and the log in?
[03:05] <cipherboy> Get more options than 11.04
[03:05] <Jordan_U> _Neytiri_: Where did you tell the installer to install grub's boot sector to?
[03:05] <slade--> usr13: well one after the other..
[03:05] <Skaperen> Xubuntu on another, and LinuxMint on another ... but those are no so burdened ... yet
[03:05] <usr13> slade--: Ok... well, any particular reason for doing it?
[03:05] <_Neytiri_> Jordan_U, Executing 'grub-install /dev/sda' failed.   this is a fatal error.          i didnt select /dev/sda
[03:05] <joolawan> the unity of ubuntu is so hard to use.
[03:05] <Skaperen> usr13: I'm running out of space for boxes
[03:06] <parcs> a configure script is reporting 'Missing C library: Xrandr'. what headers might i have to install to alleviate this error?
[03:06] <slade--> usr13: yea needed later packages
[03:06] <_Neytiri_> Jordan_U, i told it to insall on /dev/sdh
[03:06] <usr13>  When they look up the term power-user they will see Skaperen's picture.
[03:06] <Skaperen> what is the general concensus here regarding the future of Ubuntu due to Unity?  ... kubuntu or xubuntu?
[03:06] <slade--> jordan_u: ah that might explain it. i think i hosed this up pretty good :/
[03:06] <cipherboy> Is it possible to get gnome-panel with gnome3 environment?
[03:07] <xangua> !nounity | cipherboy
[03:07] <usr13> slade--: So it is now a fully updated 11.10 system?
[03:07] <cipherboy> Sorry, better question:
[03:07] <cipherboy> Is it possible to use GNOME3 with Cairo-dock and remove the bottom panel thing?
[03:08] <Jordan_U_bak> _Neytiri_: Are you sure that your BIOS is set to boot from sdh?
[03:08] <slade--> usr13: well its using 2.6 kernel, and all kinds of things seem to be missing (like the /etc/rc directories) but if i do a do-release-upgrade it says nothign else to upgrade
[03:08]  * Skaperen wonders what would happen if one installs xubuntu from scratch, then installs the gnome-shell package
[03:08] <slade--> usr13: i switched it from LTS to normal as well
[03:08] <_Neytiri_> yes
[03:08] <_Neytiri_> and i even tried forcing it to boot from there
[03:08] <usr13> slade--: Well, you would have had to have done that first.  Right?
[03:09] <_Neytiri_> the odd thing is there is no /dev/sda
[03:09] <slade--> usr13: correct.
[03:09] <joolawan> iphone can sync with ubuntu or not?
[03:09] <joolawan> someone help me
[03:09] <joolawan> please
[03:09] <slade--> usr13: i think jordan_u was correct and its the virtualization platform. i didnt even consider that
[03:09] <Jordan_U> _Neytiri_: How did you check what drive sdh corrosponds to, and what your BIOS calls that drive?
[03:10] <|Slacker|> joolawan, try to sync it using banshee
[03:10] <xangua> joolawan: sync in what way¿ you can mount it and manage your files
[03:10] <_Neytiri_> Jordan_U, sdh was a flash card
[03:11] <cipherboy> Anyone?
[03:11] <Ethek> Im using Unity w/ GLX_Dock, is there a way to exclude the app title from the indicator bar at the top?
[03:11] <Jordan_U> _Neytiri_: How did you check that sdh was a flash card? Are you sure that you set your BIOS to boot from that same flash card?
[03:11] <_Neytiri_> yes i am sure
[03:12] <_Neytiri_> sdh was the only 1 gig drive in the partitioner
[03:12] <joolawan> Unable to mount aekarat’s iPhone
[03:12] <com64> How do I give myself user write access to a filesystem? I have an EXT4 filesystem at /dev/sda9, which I mounted at /extended and only root can write files.
[03:12] <_Neytiri_> and and i used the boot menu to force it to boot from there
[03:12] <joolawan> Unhandled Lockdown error (-5)
[03:12] <joolawan> it show that error?
[03:12] <slade--> usr13 Jordan_U thanks for the insight, i think i'll just find a better VM provider
[03:12] <joolawan> when I plug it with usb port
[03:12] <kontagious> anyone good with libre office and footnotes?
[03:12] <com64> I created an fstab entry BTW.
[03:13] <joolawan> I use ubuntu 11.10
[03:13] <Jordan_U> slade--: You're welcome.
[03:13] <kontagious> when i put text into my foot note it applies it to every page. how do i make different foot notes for each page
[03:13] <xangua> joolawan: try this, go to software center - edit - sources , and in the update tab enable proposed and backport updates; open the update manager and see if there is a : libimoviledevice update
[03:13] <joolawan> someone help me, please.
[03:13] <luoluoluo> hi there, how to open windows partition in 11.10?
[03:14] <Jordan_U> _Neytiri_: You selected "sdh" and not "sdh1" as the device to install grub's boot sector to?
[03:14] <blognewb> Hi guys do i have to have the Windows CD installation to do a dual-boot on this lenovo we purchased?
[03:14] <_Neytiri_> yes sdh
[03:14] <_Neytiri_> not sdh1
[03:14] <com64> blognewb, no I don't think you do. You just need to install windows, then install ubuntu then you're all set.
[03:15] <com64> blognewb: but if you have windows installed already just install ubuntu
[03:15] <Na_Klar> I got a HP 625 and had xp on it before I switched to ubuntu. I noticed that I am not able to play a video real flowing, means what should be 25fps looks like just 15fps. Is ubuntu (or the driver, ati fglrx in this case) so bad in video rendering?
[03:15] <Jordan_U> _Neytiri_: Boot info script output would be very enlightening if you can find a way to get it.
[03:15] <_Neytiri_> working on it
[03:16] <_Neytiri_> now the damn sysem wont boot the fricking usb drive
[03:17] <cipherboy> Anyone have any ideas?
[03:17] <ahoneybun> cipherboy, for?
[03:18] <cipherboy> In GNOME3 shell (not unity) I would like to remove (or just hide) the bottom panel and run Cairo-dock in its place.
[03:18] <blognewb> com64 hey is the win7 install the same as the  Win 7 Recovery DVD
[03:18] <com64> blognewb: No, it is not.
[03:18] <ahoneybun> cipherboy, could kill the process
[03:18] <com64> blognewb: The recovery disc just recovers to a previous state, wiping everything else away.
[03:18] <blognewb> com64 this laptop we got came installed with win7, so we can't do a clean install using the recovery dvd?
[03:19] <cipherboy> ahoneybun: How? Isn't it a part of the GNOME3 shell process?
[03:19] <xangua> there is no bottom panel on gnome shell, there is a plugin i believe that acts like a dock
[03:19] <com64> blognewb: What's the recovery DVD from?
[03:19] <cipherboy> xangua: Then what is the thing with the workspace switcher and open applications?
[03:19] <xangua> or were you refering to gnome fallback mode cipherboy ¿
[03:20] <Ethek> cipherboy, is there anything here : http://glx-dock.org/ww_page.php?p=F.A.Q&lang=en
[03:20] <xangua> cipherboy: the one you are refering is not in the bottom
[03:20] <blognewb> com64 from Lenovo's One Key recovery software
[03:20] <cipherboy> xangua: Specifically chose gnome classic (appears to be GNOME3) in the login menu on Ubuntu 11.10
[03:20] <bsec> Where is the configuration file of screen in ubuntu?
[03:20] <ahoneybun> cipherboy, the dock is called "Dash"
[03:20] <_Neytiri_> Jordan_U, as soon as i remake my usb boot drive i will boot into the live demo again and run the dang boot script
[03:20] <com64> blognewb: from the same laptop you're trying to reinstall windows on?
[03:21] <blognewb> com64 yes
[03:21] <blognewb> com64 i meant i can probably burn a cd off of that software function
[03:21] <Skaperen> I'm running off now ... thanks for the help ... esp. milamber!
[03:22] <cipherboy> On this page http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11492958 there is a picture showing two panels. The bottom one (not the one the arrows are pointing two) is the one I want to remove.
[03:22] <xangua> ahoneybun: if you mean in unity, is called launcher ;)
[03:22] <com64> blognewb: you can't run a clean install from a recovery disc... but if the recovery disc was made right after windows was installed, then that would work all the same.
[03:22] <ahoneybun> xangua, the dock in GS is called Dash
[03:22] <cipherboy> Never mind, alt+right click, delete this panel.
[03:22] <cipherboy> Thanks!
[03:22] <bsec> Where is the configuration file of screen in ubuntu?
[03:22] <DETERMINOLOGY> I need help..I cant get my display to read 1080P on ubuntu 11.10 with using a onboard graphics
[03:22] <cipherboy> (on the bottom panel)
[03:23] <cipherboy> DETERMINOLOGY: bsec: Sorry, not in response to either of you
[03:23] <ahoneybun> cipherboy, systray
[03:24] <cipherboy> ahoneybun: thanks though, issue solved (alt+right click on panel, delete this panel)
[03:24] <almoxarife> DETERMINOLOGY: what graphics you have?
[03:24] <blognewb> com64 i was just basing this on the instruction i found on lifehacker, i guess i didn';t have to have the win7 cd since it's already installed, ill just have to partition
[03:24] <blognewb> Anybody with Ubuntu on a Lenovo ?
[03:25] <blognewb> v560...
[03:25] <cipherboy> blognewb: whats your issue?
[03:25] <bsec> Who can help me, thanks.
[03:25] <DETERMINOLOGY> I need help..I cant get my display to read 1080P on ubuntu 11.10 with using a onboard graphics
[03:25] <com64> blognewb: just partition your hard drive in windows (maybe create a small partition for swapspace) with ntfs or fat32 filesystems, then format them during the ubuntu installation
[03:26] <cipherboy> bsec Screen?
[03:26] <blognewb> cipherboy nothing just pre-empting any potential issues that may arise
[03:26] <cipherboy> bsec as in the cli utility?
[03:26] <blognewb> cipherboy i found a "wireless card" not working on a lenovo
[03:26] <cipherboy> blognewb: okay. wanted lenovo, but stuck with dell for various reasons
[03:26] <blognewb> cipherboy oh god im done wit dell
[03:27] <blognewb> dell is such a shitty company
[03:27] <xangua> gettins details is one way to be able to help you DETERMINOLOGY , please don't ignore almoxarife ;)
[03:27] <xangua> !language | blognewb
[03:27] <blognewb> im a new lenovo owner, kinda sold
[03:27] <cipherboy> bsec: the file is located at ~/.screenrc
[03:27] <tonyyarusso> bsec: /etc/screenrc for global and ~/.screenrc for your user
[03:27] <Jordan_U> blognewb: I would disagree with com64's advice. It's much easier to just let Ubuntu's installer do the partitioning.
[03:27] <cipherboy> bsec might need to create it.
[03:27] <bsec> Thanks
[03:27] <almoxarife> DETERMINOLOGY: what graphics do you have?
[03:28] <blognewb> Jordan_U is it more efficient? or more proper to do it via ubuntu
[03:28] <DETERMINOLOGY> Onboard gpu that comes with the i5-2500k
[03:28] <blognewb> 500 GB hard drive... 250 GB for ubuntu is that all right? or should i add more? minimal w7 usage, only for testing
[03:28] <blognewb> i3-370M 2.4GHz
[03:29] <Jordan_U> blognewb: It's fewer steps, less complicated, and I can see no downside to allowing the Ubuntu installer to do the partitioning. It's the normal method used when installing Ubuntu in a dual boot.
[03:29] <blognewb> 420$
[03:29] <blognewb> Jordan_U do i need to install that MBR sonething is it called MBR?
[03:29] <blognewb> MRB? i cant remember
[03:29] <Na_Klar> master boot record
[03:30] <Jordan_U> blognewb: The "grub" bootloader will be installed to the mbr, but that's done automatically by Ubuntu's installer so you don't need to worry about it.
[03:30] <com64> blognewb: you don't have to worry about the masteri boot record
[03:30] <com64> master*
[03:30] <blognewb> Jordan_U the latest?
[03:31] <blognewb> Jordan_U also do you advice me getting the LTS version?
[03:31] <Jordan_U> blognewb: This page has complete instructions, with screenshots, for installing Ubuntu in a dual boot with Windows. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[03:31] <blognewb> I am a new ubuntu user... Initally I had the edubuntu installed. lol
[03:32] <blognewb> Jordan_U thank you
[03:32] <Jordan_U> blognewb: Do you mind having to do a major upgrade about twice a year?
[03:32] <Na_Klar> After switching from win to ubuntu I noticed that I am not able to play a video real flowing, means what should be 25fps looks like just 15fps. Is ubuntu (or the driver, ati fglrx in this case) so bad in video rendering or is there something I could try to improve?
[03:32] <Jordan_U> blognewb: You're welcome.
[03:32] <xangua> Na_Klar: you could try the open source driver
[03:32] <blognewb> I'll put it in my Flip I don't have a USB stick lol
[03:33] <cipherboy> xangua: generally proprietary drivers are faster.
[03:33] <Na_Klar> xangua, any recommendations for ati on-board?
[03:33] <ahoneybun> why is beatport so expensive
[03:33] <Na_Klar> oh
[03:33] <Na_Klar> hm..
[03:33] <xangua> i stick with intel graphics, less issues ;)
[03:33] <Jordan_U> !ot | ahoneybun
[03:33] <ahoneybun> xangua, nvidia for me
[03:34] <Na_Klar> so, if I already use the proprietary driver for my graphic card, is there somehting else I could try to improve my video engine?
[03:34] <ahoneybun> Na_Klar, maybe the prototype stuff
[03:35] <Na_Klar> ahoneybun, what do you mean by that=
[03:35] <ahoneybun> Na_Klar, there is experiment drivers I think, I know there is for the free nvidia driver
[03:36] <Na_Klar> ahoneybun, I see what you mean, but I do not think this might help .. most likely cause I got an ati card :P
[03:36] <joolawan> I update the ubuntu 11.10 already  and now sync the iphone
[03:37] <joolawan> but it show that "Unhandled Lockdown error (-5)"
[03:37] <joolawan> like as before?
[03:37] <ahoneybun> Na_Klar, maybe, ati is in my laptop and runs unity slowly but it is old a bit
[03:37] <_Neytiri_> Jordan_U, ok i ran the script
[03:37] <xangua> did you enable proposed and backport updates¿ was there an update of libimoviledevice¿
[03:37] <xangua> joolawan: above
[03:38] <Jordan_U> Na_Klar: I don't know if Totem (the default movie player in Ubuntu) supports ATI's "VA-API" video acceleration.
[03:38] <Na_Klar> ahoneybun, my laptop is kinda up to date, and I used win before, everything was fine ..
[03:38] <_Neytiri_> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/N0xtcth6
[03:38] <Na_Klar> jordan_u, I am not sure if I use totem, i will look. Besides that: same problem with VLC
[03:39] <joolawan> I enable proposed and backport already.
[03:39] <joolawan> but I can't find the libimoviledevice.
[03:39] <blognewb> hi Jordan_U which step has the dual boot screen shots?
[03:39] <joolawan> How to find that.
[03:39] <Na_Klar> jordan_u, yeah the player is totem .. would that issue also be valid for VLC?
[03:39] <Jordan_U> Na_Klar: I cannot vouch for the quality of this answer but I found this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/65404/using-vaapi-to-play-1080p-videos
[03:40] <DETERMINOLOGY> I have onboard i5-2500k but its not picking up 1080p
[03:40] <indio> Hi. How do I stop gwibber service politely?
[03:40] <Jordan_U> Na_Klar: If you do follow those (not completely clear) instructions, make sure you know how to undo anything byfore you do it.
[03:40] <ahoneybun> Na_Klar, I tried to play minecraft on w7 and i had bad drivers for the video, but they were all up to date
[03:40] <Na_Klar> jordan_u, thx, reading right now ... but if my problem was only in regard to 1080p vidoes I wouldn't complain at all :P
[03:41] <Na_Klar> jordan_u, advice noticed
[03:41] <ahoneybun> *can't wait to see Ubuntu 12.04 on raspberry pi :)
[03:41] <joolawan> xangua: How can I do?
[03:41] <xangua> like i said you¿
[03:42] <somsip_> ahoneybun: no ubuntu version - ARM isn't supported in the right way
[03:42]  * xangua hates when one is ignored
[03:42] <ahoneybun> somsip_, but ubuntu is going ARM right?
[03:42] <somsip_> ahoneybun: I believe so
[03:43] <ahoneybun> somsip_, so why not?
[03:43] <Jordan_U> !ot | ahoneybun somsip_
[03:43] <somsip_> ahoneybun: http://www.raspberrypi.org/faqs and it is OT so I wont say more
[03:43] <AdminSetup> HI....If an Application fails..How to restart using loop ? I want to keep restarting an application till it starts..
[03:44] <ahoneybun> I'm going to get banned, my bad
[03:44] <indio> How do I stop gwibber service politely?
[03:44] <_Neytiri_> Jordan_U, did you dee the link?
[03:46] <joolawan> someone help me please
[03:46] <Jordan_U_bak> _Neytiri_: No, I did not. And unfortunately I need to leave now.
[03:46] <ahoneybun> joolawan, sorry about that, whats the problem?
[03:47]  * _Neytiri_ bashes head into desk
[03:47] <_Neytiri_> i dhould have stuck with 10.4
[03:47] <joolawan> I can't sync iphone 4.
[03:47] <xangua> (21:13:28) xangua: joolawan: try this, go to software center - edit - sources , and in the update tab enable proposed and backport updates; open the update manager and see if there is a : libimoviledevice update
[03:48] <ahoneybun> joolawan, using banshee? if so what version?
[03:49] <Jordan_U_bak> _Neytiri_: From a quick look at the RESULTS.txt, try setting your BIOS to boot from sdb.
[03:49] <joolawan> when I open update manager, and check . I don't see anything
[03:50] <joolawan> don't see libimoviledevice
[03:50] <xangua> did you enable backport and proposed updates joolawan ¿
[03:50] <_Neytiri_> sdb and sdc dobst exist inmy bios
[03:50]  * xangua mode jacob two two
[03:50] <joolawan> yesh
[03:50] <_Neytiri_> 2 raided arrays show up
[03:50] <ahoneybun> joolawan, libmobiledevice
[03:50] <joolawan> enabled
[03:51] <joolawan> about the libmobiledevice, can i update or install manual.
[03:51] <_Neytiri_> the nvidia_afefchef and nvidia_bicabbcd are the only hard drives inmy bios
[03:52] <Jordan_U_bak> _Neytiri_: Then those are the drives you need to install grub's boot sector to.
[03:52] <_Neytiri_> thats waht i did the first time
[03:52] <_Neytiri_> and the second and third
[03:53] <_Neytiri_> i am working on my 50th try
[03:53] <ahoneybun> joolawan, what music player are you using to sync?
[03:56] <darbe> hi
[03:57] <joolawan> so I still can't to sync
[03:59] <thornhillstaff> hey guys, how do I install lubuntu in ubuntu? is it as simple as apt-get install lubuntu ???
[03:59] <ivancp> thornhillstaff: nop
[04:00] <darbe> why do my drive unmount?
[04:00] <thornhillstaff> ivancp: please elaborate, thank you.
[04:00] <Blaksmith> HI there... ubuntu 11.10 here.. updates the other day had some nVidia updates, that installed fine.. now wine is complaining about API mismatch in the nVidia kernel .. 290.10 vs 285.05.09 .. any help to update wine to be the latest nVidia kernel would be appreciated, thanks
[04:00] <Squarism> can someone please telnet to schlo.mooo.com on port 9876 and just write something
[04:00] <darbe> why do my hard drives unmount?
[04:01] <Squarism> ...i wanna test that my port forward works
[04:01] <Squarism> no?
[04:02] <Squarism> thanks napstatic
[04:02] <ivancp> darbe: sudo umount /media/yourdisk
[04:02] <naptastic> :-D
[04:02] <Squarism> naptastic,
[04:02] <Squarism> =D
[04:02] <thornhillstaff> !ot
[04:03] <darbe> ivancp: when i restart it unmount which i don't want
[04:04] <escott> darbe, add the drives to the fstab
[04:04] <dr_willis> darbe:  check dmesg output for any disk related error messages
[04:04] <untitled_only> Sup room
[04:04] <ivancp> darv
[04:05] <Blaksmith> I have also tried reinstalling wine 1.3 through synaptic, hoping it would do a kernel recompile of the drivers... but still getting the error
[04:05] <thornhillstaff> hey guys, how do I install lubuntu in ubuntu? is it as simple as apt-get install lubuntu ??? I'm told no, without further elaboration. Can someone illuminate the matter for me?
[04:05] <dr_willis> darbe:  you may want to clarify whats its doing exactly
[04:05] <darbe> dr_willis: there is no error message when i click it is mounted until I reboot
[04:05] <joolawan> how can I install libimobiledevice on ubuntu 11.10 64bit
[04:05] <ivancp> darbe: then edit /etc/fstab file and comment the line
[04:05] <darbe> escott: what is command
[04:05] <escott> !fstab | darbe
[04:05] <darbe> ivancp: how can i edit?
[04:05] <Blaksmith> http://pastebin.com/xTvEQg3u
[04:05] <untitled_only> Virtual box
[04:05] <dr_willis> darbe:  it automounts on first access.. thats nirmal
[04:05] <ivancp> sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[04:06] <Blaksmith> and this happned because of the ubuntu update the other day
[04:06] <dr_willis> darbe:  edit your fstab for permanent  mounts
[04:06] <dr_willis> !fstab
[04:06] <darbe> THANKS A LOT I will tru
[04:06] <darbe> try
[04:07] <Na_Klar> jordan_u_bak, unfortunately I cannot install catalysthacks because I cannot install xvba because I cannot upgrade libc6. Could think of any other way to improve video render performance?
[04:08] <duffyg> Hello. I was wondering if I could have some help getting a USB wireless adapter to work with Ubuntu 11.10
[04:09] <_Neytiri_> I am still having a issue installing the bootloader on my system
[04:10] <ooldirty> don't irc as root.
[04:11] <duffyg> Anyone available to help me?
[04:11] <aeon-ltd> duffyg: ask then wait and see
[04:11] <tottiq> duffyg, it would be better if you can provide more info
[04:12] <duffyg> Sure. I'm trying to get a netgear WNDA3100v2 wireless adpater to work with Ubuntu 11.10
[04:12] <Besogon> People, do you know how to check what gnome version is working?
[04:12] <Besogon> Here is Compiz and Emerald
[04:13] <Besogon> It can't be gnome-shell can it?
[04:13] <Blaksmith> ok, let me ask my question a little more specific way.  Due to the latest updates pushed down the pipe  making my nVidia go to 290, how can I update my wine 1.3 to use nvidia 290 instead of the old ones that were in there 285?
[04:13] <acu> Hey guys - did anyone make an ATI with HDMI work - at least the VGA - of course it will be audio - 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M880G [Mobility Radeon HD 4200]
[04:14] <duffyg> I installed ndis and was able to get a driver from the interwebs. It says the hardware is connected, but it doesn't seem like my network connections is able to see any wireless adapters.
[04:14] <Besogon> Blaksmith: reinstall wine?
[04:14] <Blaksmith> Besogon, tried.. no luck
[04:15] <tottiq> duffyg, is this what you tried? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1383708
[04:15] <escott> Besogon, you want to know what the current desktop user is running?
[04:15] <Besogon> Blaksmith: perhaps the gilty one is ~/.wine directory
[04:16] <Besogon> escott: yes
[04:16] <BobJonkman> Hi all: has the iCal feed for LoCo events changed its URL?
[04:16] <Besogon> escott: It's difficalt now as here is unity gnome shell and gnome2
[04:16] <Blaksmith> Besogon, hmm, ok.. will dig and see if the nVidia driver is in there somewhere... shouldn't be though
[04:16] <escott> Besogon, usually you tell by looking at it. they are very visually distinctive, but you could also ps aux | grep gnome-shell or ps aux | grep unity or ps aux | grep gnome-panel
[04:17] <duffyg> tottiq, I did a similar thing to that. However, I did not invoke the four commands that were listed before installing the driver. What do those commands do?
[04:18] <duffyg> specifically, the wget librarian blah blah commands.
[04:18] <lefty_> I can't seem to uninstall ubuntu
[04:18] <tottiq> duffyg, the first one grants you access to root
[04:18] <tottiq> whoops, sorry for that
[04:18] <Besogon> escott: It would be funny but all 3 processes are working :)))
[04:19] <duffyg> ok, what files is it asking to download with the wget commands?
[04:19] <tottiq> duffyg, basically what they do is get the firmware from some web to get it to work with windows drivers, if i got it right of course
[04:19] <lefty_> Hey i need help cause I installed ubuntu 11.10 and i get wht appareantly is kernel panics.. but now I can
[04:20] <escott> Besogon, i dont follow?
[04:20] <duffyg> the firmware for the specific usb device?
[04:20] <lefty_> 't seem to uninstall it cause windows shuts downs on me from preventing damage*
[04:20] <joolawan> pmcenery ppa, it don't work with ubuntu 11.10 64bit.
[04:20] <CrazyThinker> From which version did ubuntu add unity?
[04:20] <Besogon> escott: After installing gnome-shell I even got gnome-shell working with compiz for some time... Now it's not but all so strange
[04:20] <escott> lefty_, is this wubi you are trying to uninstall
[04:20] <joolawan> I should to use ubuntu 10.04  or not/
[04:21] <Resistance> joolawan, what're ya trying to do?
[04:21] <lefty_> escott: yes.
[04:21] <Blaksmith> Besogon, nope, nothing in the .wine directory that sticks out like a sore thumb regarding which nvidia kernel it is using
[04:21] <escott> Besogon, gnome-shell doesnt use compiz it uses mutter
[04:21] <joolawan> sync iphone 4 with ubuntu 11.10 64 bit
[04:21] <joolawan> I know the maverick is ok for sync it.
[04:21] <tottiq> duffyg, that's correct
[04:22] <escott> lefty_, you may need to run the uninstall as administrator, especially if it is trying to restore the bootloader
[04:22] <Besogon> escott: yes yes I know But it seems to did use it
[04:22] <lefty_> I will try escott but I am afraid that it will just crash and shutdown on me again
[04:22] <Resistance> joolawan, i'm not sure you can do that, with the recent OS updates.
[04:22] <duffyg> tottiq, ok, just trying to understand what I do before I do it :). I'll give those commands a try.
[04:22] <Mature_Related> Greetings comrades, If I install an older version of ubuntu (7.10) would anything break if I upgraded it to the current release? if possible...
[04:23] <tottiq> duffyg, go ahead, if you need more info there is also this link you can check out, http://growingtheneurons.blogspot.com/2011/05/getting-netgear-wnda3100v2-to-work-on.html
[04:23] <escott> Mature_Related, if your plan is to run 11.10 you should make yourself an 11.10 install disk
[04:23] <joolawan> I need to sync the iphone because of I would like to copy my movie into it.
[04:23] <nishant> how to resolve proxy authentication  problem in maverick
[04:23] <ooldirty> Mature_Related, you would need to dist-upgrade through each release between then and now. just download current, it will save you about 6 hours of headaches.
[04:24] <duffyg> thanks tottiq! I'll try those!
[04:25] <greg3000> If I have a package installed which say 50 others depend on, and I need to reinstall that package, how would I go about doing so?
[04:25] <Mature_Related> escott, ooldirty, circumstances do not permit the easy route this time, but thanks for the answer.
[04:25] <ModusPwnens> I can't click in or close any of my gnome windows. How do I fix this?
[04:25] <eHAPPY> I have set static HDCP ips for a few of my ubuntu servers; none of them can successfully get an IP during install and when i do "sudo dhclient" it wont retain the IP after shutdown; what do?
[04:25] <ooldirty> Mature_Related, good luck.
[04:26] <ModusPwnens> I tried looking on google, but I couldn't find anything.
[04:26] <escott> greg3000, apt will handle dependencies and upgrades for packages in apt. you dont have to worry about those dependencies, they have been tested
[04:26] <Mature_Related> thanks :D
[04:26] <ooldirty> Mature_Related, just as a reference, I had to do some in depth (like extracting .debs to change dependencies in depth) hacking to make my last 11.04 to 11.10 dist-upgrade work...
[04:27] <nishant> W: Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-updates/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  407  Proxy Authentication Required  W: Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  407  Proxy Authentication Required  W: Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-updates/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  407  Proxy Authentication Require
[04:27] <ModusPwnens> I can click on pretty much everything else, but not the main ubuntu windows.
[04:27] <jayar> does anyone else find ubuntu 11.10 sluggish?
[04:27] <Besogon> Oh... my question wasn't correct. It's better to ask what GTK version I'm using???
[04:27] <ooldirty> jayar, it's not ubuntu that's sluggish, it's unity.
[04:27] <jayar> yea?
[04:27] <bfreis> jayar: yeah...
[04:27] <escott> Besogon, you can have multiple gtk versions at the same time
[04:28] <bfreis> jayar: try Kubuntu 11.10 instead
[04:28] <ModusPwnens> can someone tell me how to restart gnome, or whatever the ubuntu equivalent of explorer is?
[04:28] <ModusPwnens> is it the gnome panel?
[04:28] <escott> ModusPwnens, killall nautilus && nautilus
[04:28] <ModusPwnens> i thought that was the thing at the top
[04:28] <jayar> k, thn
[04:28] <Besogon> escott: hm... I'm gonna try some themes from gnome-llok org.
[04:28] <Besogon> then
[04:29] <nishant> this is my problem Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-updates/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  407  Proxy Authentication
[04:29] <ModusPwnens> OH MY GOD
[04:29] <ModusPwnens> Its creating infinite folders
[04:29] <greg3000> escott: thanks for replying friend, to be specific I have a package "fglrx" and I'd like to reinstall it.  Is my only option to remove/purge it and then install it again?  Which leads to my question what if it's a package with so many dependencies, is it possible to reinstall without doing the method I just described so to avoid disrupting dependencies (in a situation like python for example)?
[04:30] <escott> ModusPwnens, nautilus is the file browser which may or may not be what you want. gnome-panel is the (gnome3) panel and window manager
[04:30] <lefty_> escott: it happened again
[04:30] <duffyg> tottiq, it still doesn't work.
[04:30] <escott> lefty_, don't know much about wubi
[04:30] <lefty_> escott: i get
[04:30] <duffyg> it doesn't show wireless settings in my network config
[04:30] <ModusPwnens> whew, thanks escott. Your first command didn't work though. it just spawned infinite windows :(
[04:31] <tottiq> duffyg, mmm, which link did you try?
[04:31] <ModusPwnens> and yes, it was nautilus. Thanks!
[04:31] <lefty_>   BCCode:	24 ; BCP1:00000000001904FB ; BCP2:FFFFF8801A8BE898 ; BCP3:FFFFF8801A8BE0F0 ; BCP4: FFFFF800030B8DE3
[04:31] <escott> greg3000, apt has an option to reinstall a package apt-get install --reinstall package
[04:31] <lefty_> escott: it says that's part of the problem
[04:32] <duffyg> tottiq, the first one. However, the driver that I installed was from a different site. I assumed it works because it registered as a valid driver and says hardware installed when I connect the device.
[04:32] <rabbi1> i have ubuntu server and a windows pc on that network, how do i access a web application which is on windows pc from my ubuntu server ?
[04:32] <greg3000> escott: I promise I've looked using "man"...  thank you!  thanks for sharing your knowledge m8
[04:32] <tottiq> duffyg, ok, and what happens after that?
[04:33] <escott> lefty_, afraid i cant help much. if the wubi files are gone the only part that remains is the bootloader (which would leave you with a potentially non-bootable windows system) in which case you could get a windows repair disk and use fixmbr or whatever the current command is (i dont know what that would be though)
[04:33] <duffyg> tottiq, well, nothing changed really.
[04:34] <duffyg> running iwconfig yields "no wireless extensions"
[04:34] <urlin2u> lefty_, did you get a grub update in ubuntu?
[04:34] <duffyg> it seems to only see the wired ethernet adapter and not the wireless, even though it sees the device and says it's connected.
[04:35] <joolawan>  add-apt-repository ppa:pmcenery/ppa
[04:35] <joolawan> don't support into ubuntu 11.10
[04:35] <lefty_> no
[04:35] <Resistance> joolawan, then you need to contact whoever manages that ppa and ask them to start releasing stuff for oneiric.
[04:35] <lefty_> urlin2u: no.
[04:36] <malibu> Hi there, looking for a photo manager for ubuntu that can import photos from camera and organize into folders by date in the tag
[04:36] <malibu> Anyone know of one?
[04:36] <urlin2u> lefty_, are you sure I ask this as escott describes a missing windows bootloader. I just came on the channel so i have missed some posting by you.
[04:37] <dr_willis> !info shotwell
[04:37] <tottiq> duffyg, ok let me do some research about it
[04:37] <andyjjones11> hi : )
[04:37] <dr_willis> malibu:  shotwell. googles picassa. perhaps others.
[04:38] <malibu> dr_willis: Will look at shotwell.  Was surprised F-spot and gthumb didn't do it
[04:38] <malibu> Seems a very basic function
[04:39] <lefty_> urlin2u: I am not sure what it is, but what happened after installing 11.10 is that on 1st boot it works but then trying to boot again into it I get stuck at the purple screen before it says "Ubuntu"
[04:39] <lefty_> Now as I try to uninstall windows shuts down on me.
[04:40] <urlin2u> lefty_, how are you removing ubuntu?
[04:40] <rabbi1> i have ubuntu server and a windows pc on that network, how do i access a web application which is on windows pc from my ubuntu server ?
[04:40]  * Blaksmith sighs .. reinstalled all wine, all nvidia, rebooted.. same thing .. current nVidia module is 290, but the driver component has 285.05.09
[04:40] <lefty_> urlin2u: the uninsta;; wubi
[04:41] <Blaksmith> starting to piss me off that an update was pushed through WITHOUT making sure it won't break other things!
[04:41] <urlin2u> lefty_, are you in the admin account try the remove apps in windows control cenyer in the admin account.
[04:41] <urlin2u> center*
[04:41] <greg3000> escott: thanks again!  :)  A command I should have learned so long ago: "apt-get install --reinstall"
[04:42] <lefty_> urlin2u: yes.
[04:42] <Blaksmith> and google is not giving me any good hits as to how to fix
[04:42] <eden37> rabbi1 u gotta be more specific
[04:42] <tottiq> duffyg, hey, did you try using the ndiswrapper and stuff?
[04:43] <duffyg> tottiq, yes, I installed the GUI ndis from Ubuntu Software Center
[04:43] <tottiq> duffyg, ok just making sure
[04:45] <lefty_> watch this just crash on me again
[04:46] <joolawan> Now, I think the ubuntu 11.10 not support for sync the iphone4.
[04:46] <rabbi1> how can i access a web apps which is in  windows from a ubuntu server?
[04:46] <joolawan> I tested to use syning  iphone, it's not ok.
[04:48] <rabbi1> ubuntu server network, and windows which has that web apps is a client of that server. now, i have to run a web app from the server which is in that windows client pc.
[04:48] <rabbi1> eden37: will that do ?
[04:49] <darbe> I couldn't mount permanently :(:(
[04:49] <joolawan> I'm not sure the way of develpe will go together with the previous version or not. Maybe go the 0 when release new verion.
[04:50] <darbe> can you tell me how to edit fstap?
[04:50] <joolawan> So it make me feel it be stable or not?
[04:51] <eden37> rabbi1 that's better but I don't have experience with that particular setup sorry
[04:51] <darbe>   /dev/hda2 / ext2 defaults 1 1
[04:51] <darbe> where can I learn hda2?
[04:52] <ooldirty> o.O
[04:52] <lefty_> urlin2u: I tried and it shutdown again
[04:53] <ooldirty> sweet mother of god. next he'll want to learn eth0...! DON'T DO IT DARBE!
[04:54] <gast2root> whats a good package for recording specific area of desktop into mpeg or avi?
[04:54] <urlin2u> lefty_, to be honest I have never heard of that happening, have yo installed wubi in the past?
[04:54] <darbe> ooldirty: what is eth0?
[04:54] <urlin2u> you*
[04:54] <Blaksmith> ok, reinstalled pyopencl also, still no go .. it is still picking up that version 285 is installed instead of 290 ...
[04:54] <lefty_> yes and it worked perfect urlin2u
[04:54] <pauluntu> anyone have the problem in skype where audio repeats itself.  Notifications, calls, etc all skype audio repeats itself
[04:55] <Phr3d13> pauluntu: microphone feedback? Plug in headphones
[04:55] <K3rmit> can someone help. When I try to start up ubuntu on command line it gets stuck at this point "postgresql started at port 717 " and doesn't go any farther. How can I troubleshoot..It doesn't want to boot! (This started messing up because I was upgrading)
[04:56] <urlin2u> lefty_, what I'm looking for is a unusual install beyond hat is needed, such as wubi installed outside of the C partition, and or a partition made for it specifically rather then just installing and letting the ubuntu file be built in windows.
[04:56] <urlin2u> s/hat=what*
[04:56] <pauluntu> Phr3d13, its not the mic when skype loads it repeats the audio i haven't even made a call yet
[04:57] <Phr3d13> New one to me...
[04:57] <gast2root> where can i find xvidcap config?
[04:58] <Phr3d13> urlin2u: put the ubuntu disc in, reboot computer
[04:58] <urlin2u> Phr3d13, what?
[04:58] <Phr3d13> urlin2u: have computer boot the disc
[04:58] <pauluntu> Phr3d13, lol well i guess its true what the teacher says, windows is for productivity and linux for toying around
[04:58] <urlin2u> Phr3d13, read the posts
[04:58] <chuckatpdo> .
[04:59] <chuckatpdo> .
[04:59] <gast2root> o_O
[04:59] <malibu> dr_willis, So how do I configure the folder with shotwell?
[04:59] <zykotick9> pauluntu, your teacher obviously needs some schooling.
[04:59] <malibu> I want it t be yyyy/yyyy-mm-dd/photo.jpg
[05:00] <gast2root> zykotick9: lol teachers mostly need be teached themself yeah
[05:00] <Phr3d13> urlin2u: are you trying to get a dual boot setup? I just came in
[05:00] <pauluntu> zykotick9, why you say that I mean 3 days and i'm still configuring hardware LOL i dont think that could be considered a productive envoroment
[05:00] <urlin2u> Phr3d13, nah just helping another on a wubi problem. :D
[05:00] <greg3000> I'm trying to get some different window border styles after upgrading to ubuntu-One.  Could anyone advise me on where to look?
[05:00] <Phr3d13> Ok, my bad
[05:02] <slinkeey> Hello
[05:02] <slinkeey> I just installed tracker-search-tool... Do I need to use a certain query language to search my image by metadata or tag?
[05:05] <gast2root> where can i find xvidcap config?
[05:06] <Blaksmith> ok, I'm banging my head against the wall on this.. due to the latest update, AS SOON AS I REBOOTED, wine games DO NOT WORK any more.. they are reporting that nvidia is using 285, while the rest of the system is working flawlessly using 290 ...
[05:06] <chuckatpdo> update mgr alerts update.  update finishes and alerts restart to complete.  approve restart. come back hour later and restart has not occured. power cycle. noe no boot device found. thoughts?
[05:06] <Blaksmith> I have tried reinstalling wine, pyopencl, and anything related to wine.. .NO CHANGE..
[05:06] <Blaksmith> http://pastebin.com/xTvEQg3u
[05:06] <Blaksmith> is the error I am STILL having
[05:07] <Blaksmith> and yes, rebooted, full power off, after all the reinstalls
[05:07] <Phr3d13> chuckatpdo: shut down, wiggle/reconnect drive cords, power on, repeat as necessary
[05:10] <Phr3d13> Blaksmith: not exactly sure how to fix, but I can tell you why it happened
[05:10] <zykotick9> Blaksmith, your issue is with nvidia kernel/glx drivers not matching.  Perhaps "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" would like your installed nvidia stuff, but purging and reinstalling nvidia is probably required.  good luck.
[05:10] <chuckatpdo> this on netbook with dual-boot xp. power and battery removed and restored.
[05:11] <Phr3d13> Blaksmith: you dowmloaded drivers from nvidia and installed, but didn't remove previous version first
[05:13] <Blaksmith> Phr3d13, no, I did not install any nvidia drivers from their site.. I even did: apt-get remove --purge nvidia-current
[05:13] <Blaksmith> and then apt-get install nvidia-current, then rebooted
[05:13] <Phr3d13> Blaksmith: nvidia ppa?
[05:13] <Blaksmith> zykotick9, yah, I understand "what" is going on, just not sure on how to fix it.. let me
[05:14] <Zutara> Hi, just wondering. Is it possible to install GNOME 3 inside 10.04?
[05:15] <rodhash> Guys.. what's the name of the effect when we double click the title bar and it's kind of minimize?
[05:15] <sanitypassing> I need some help with SSH.
[05:15] <Blaksmith> http://pastebin.com/ucJMBfrV
[05:15] <sanitypassing> I moved the private key from my old Windows installation to my new ubuntu installation, moved it to ~/.ssh, and am logging in with ssh user@host, but it still refuses my password.
[05:15] <sanitypassing> does anyone have any idea why it would do this?
[05:15] <Blaksmith> Phr3d13, using Ocentric 11.10 .. and whatever ppa it set up for it..
[05:16] <zykotick9> !info nvidia-current
[05:16] <naruto> ola
[05:16] <naruto> brasil?
[05:16] <naruto> portugues?
[05:17] <Blaksmith> zykotick9, I don't recall adding any new ppa for my repos
[05:17] <zykotick9> Blaksmith, you obvious suffer from SNS syndrome, you aren't using nvidia-current from ubuntu (and are now having issues, i wonder why).
[05:17] <Blaksmith> then why when I install nvidia-current, it pulls in 290 ?
[05:18] <zykotick9> other repo ppa is inferring
[05:18] <Phr3d13> Blaksmith: hmmmm, I had a similar prob, don't think I ever got an answer, I think I ended up reinstalling ubuntu
[05:19] <Blaksmith> I can "not" do a reinstall ...
[05:19] <Blaksmith> and zykotick9 SNS Syndrome? lol
[05:19] <reisio> just as well, you probably need not
[05:19] <bfreis> Hey guys, what do you do to store your key files (which are long enough not to fit in your head!) in reliable (ie, you don't want to lose your key in case of disk failure) and secure (you don't want to write it down on a post-it that you keep close to your computer) way?
[05:21] <reisio> bfreis: same way I store everything I care about: redundantly
[05:21] <Phr3d13> bfreis: save em to a memo on your phone? Or a txt file copied onto an mp3 player/flash drive
[05:21] <tensorpudding> bfreis, key files?
[05:22] <tensorpudding> you mean gnupg keys?
[05:22] <bfreis> tensorpudding: for example
[05:22] <tensorpudding> oh, you mean important
[05:22] <bfreis> tensorpudding: actually, I'm talking about the most fundamental keys you have
[05:22] <bfreis> tensorpudding: say you use an encrypted hard disk, it is encrypted with a key, how would you store *this* key?
[05:23] <tensorpudding> i'd write the key somewhere, because i wouldn't remember it
[05:23] <reisio> that particular key I would commit to memory
[05:23] <tensorpudding> probably on a USB flash drive which i would sequester
[05:23] <reisio> or store physically encrypted itself
[05:23] <Blaksmith> ok, is there an easy command to list which repo's I have installed?
[05:23] <reisio> because it's silly to write down passwords
[05:23] <bfreis> reisio: come on, you know how obvious "redundancy" is to this discussion, your statement has almost no value...
[05:23] <reisio> Blaksmith: cat /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[05:23] <tensorpudding> i am not paranoid enough to encrypt my hard drive
[05:23] <reisio> bfreis: if you say so, you must be the expert
[05:24] <Blaksmith> thanks
[05:24] <reisio> tensorpudding: maybe you're just not up to enough no goodness :p
[05:24] <Blaksmith> reisio, ^^
[05:24] <bfreis> reisio: no, I'm not, that's why I'm asking how do people store these things
[05:24] <grantm2012> Hi guys, need some help involving setting up wireless drivers without an active connection.
[05:24] <tensorpudding> really, truly planning to deter a powerful enemy from determining information on me is too hard
[05:24] <bfreis> reisio: If you store it physically encrypted itself, you have yet another key to store somehow, do you see the problem here?
[05:25] <tensorpudding> because i know that social engineering and other meatspace levers are a lot more effective
[05:25] <reisio> bfreis: too bad everybody who responds to you only does so with valueless statements
[05:25] <reisio> bfreis: nope
[05:25] <tensorpudding> i encrypt a file with all my passwords in it
[05:25] <reisio> but I can clarify
[05:25] <Blaksmith> nope, not a single repo for anything nvidia
[05:25] <reisio> if you must write something down, don't write down "my password for FOO: {passwordverbatim}"
[05:25] <reisio> make it less obvious than that
[05:25] <reisio> that is a form of encryption
[05:25] <tensorpudding> and sync it on dropbox
[05:26] <tensorpudding> so i can easy get at them from anywhere
[05:26] <reisio> I, for example, put all my pornography into ~/fong/ and not ~/pornography/
[05:26] <Blaksmith> zykotick9, are you sure that info you pulled up was for 11.10, not 11.04 ? I know 11.04 was 280.xxx while when I upgraded to 11.10, it bumped it to 285... and then the update available the other day bumped it to 290
[05:26] <bfreis> tensorpudding: that's more or less what I do, but the problem is that: either you have a not so secure keyphrase (so that you can memorize it), or you have a strong key encrypting the file, that must be stored somehow!
[05:27] <tensorpudding> my keyphrase protecting it is strong enough
[05:27] <tensorpudding> it's as strong as any password contained in it
[05:27] <zykotick9> Blaksmith, 290.10-0ubuntu1~oneiric~xup1 "appears" to be from xorg-edgers
[05:27] <tensorpudding> my passwords are all long alphanumeric mixed-cap strings
[05:28] <reisio> maybe you should just read this: http://xkcd.com/936/
[05:28] <tensorpudding> my passphrase for the file is shorter but uses symbols
[05:28] <reisio> it could solve all your problems
[05:28] <bfreis> tensorpudding: and are you sure that the methods you use to open your password database is as secure as the keyphrase itself? I mean: do you always open it in computers you own and that can't possibly have spyware/keyloggers on it?
[05:28] <Blaksmith> zykotick9, nope, no PPA entry for xorg, or edge .. (case insensitive)
[05:28] <tensorpudding> no?
[05:29] <tensorpudding> i mean, if the computer were compromised with a keylogger it'd have my password to whatever site i used anyway
[05:29] <zykotick9> Blaksmith, well, where ever it's from - it's not the Ubuntu version.  Hope you find a solution, but I'm done.  If "you" break it, you get to keep the pieces ;)
[05:29] <bfreis> reisio: yeah, I've seen that one... however, if you want something like 1k bits of entropy, then it starts to get hard to remember, even with the technique presented there on xkcd
[05:30] <reisio> you could try basing it off something you couldn't possibly forget
[05:30] <tensorpudding> 1k bits of entropy?
[05:30] <tensorpudding> how many characters is that?
[05:30] <bfreis> tensorpudding: lots and lots
[05:30] <reisio> like a conversion of the first line of your favorite book
[05:30] <bfreis> tensorpudding: waaaay too many
[05:30] <pnorman> a minimum of 125
[05:30] <tensorpudding> that's too long for website passwords
[05:30] <Blaksmith> http://pastebin.com/fw0yLXJs .. zykotick9, that's my /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:30] <reisio> or your family members' names in order of birth
[05:30] <bfreis> tensorpudding: many more than what I could possibly remember
[05:30] <bfreis> tensorpudding: Oh, sorry, if it is not clear, I'm not talking about facebook or gmail password...
[05:30] <zykotick9> Blaksmith, FYI PPA are NOT in sources.list
[05:31] <Blaksmith> ok, someone replied that they were there..
[05:32] <tensorpudding> what are you talking about?
[05:32] <zykotick9> Blaksmith, FYI you could use "apt-cache policy nvidia-current" to see where it's coming from.
[05:32] <bfreis> tensorpudding: like storing keys you would use to access highly secured servers
[05:33] <tensorpudding> why would you memorize those
[05:33] <bfreis> tensorpudding: I wouldn't, that's why I'm talking about STORING (reliably and securely)
[05:33] <tensorpudding> you keep them on a separate medium, which is locked down physically
[05:33] <Blaksmith> http://pastebin.com/ptEhfzQ0
[05:34] <reisio> you could get a token and never memorize anything again
[05:34] <bfreis> yeah, that's the obvious solution, and I was trying to poll and see what kinds of medium do people commonly use for this. My error was assuming that people "commonly" store these kinds of keys :/
[05:34] <bfreis> reisio: what kind of token you mean?
[05:34] <Phr3d13> Who needed xvidcap config location?
[05:35] <zykotick9> Blaksmith, so the PPA is ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu/ --- FYI you don't need sudo with apt-cache
[05:35] <reisio> bfreis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_token
[05:35] <reisio> bfreis: the military uses them
[05:35] <bfreis> reisio: yeah, that's what I thought
[05:35] <bfreis> reisio: I have that for my banking account
[05:35] <reisio> you can apply some easy to remember formula to each value to get additional protection
[05:35] <Blaksmith> zykotick9, hehe never hurts I guess for the sudo heh
[05:35] <reisio> bfreis: you really are secure :p
[05:36] <Blaksmith> at least in that case heh
[05:36] <reisio> bfreis: but is that your real name and IP in /whois bfreis?
[05:36] <bfreis> reisio: yes
[05:36] <reisio> nothing to hide because it's all encrypted? :p
[05:36] <bfreis> reisio: lol
[05:36] <Blaksmith> zykotick9, ok, so possible solution .. find where that ppa is added, remove, then remove --purge then install again ?
[05:37] <bfreis> if I had nothing to hide, why would I encrypt it anyway
[05:37] <zykotick9> Blaksmith, i'm not really the right persona to ask - but there is some PPA-purge program/script that you might need.
[05:37] <Phr3d13> Who needed xvidcap config location?
[05:38] <reisio> bfreis: :p
[05:38] <Phr3d13> Search your fs for .xvidcap.scf
[05:38] <reisio> I guess what I meant is I don't understand why you haven't gotten a hostmask, and denied your real name to your IRC client
[05:38] <zykotick9> Phr3d13, <gast2root> where can i find xvidcap config? -- looks like they're gone
[05:38] <darbe> i did
[05:38] <Blaksmith> zykotick9, ok, thanks.  I will try the remove --purge first.. if not then .... it will get fixed one way or another LOL thanks again for your help
[05:38] <sanitypassing> can anyone tell me why SSH is telling me that my private-key password is incorrect?
[05:38] <darbe> i mount automatically
[05:39] <darbe> it
[05:39] <bfreis> reisio: err, I don't know what you are talking about... I'm rarely on IRC, what's a hostmask?
[05:39] <Phr3d13> Ty zykotick9
[05:39] <badbandit> hello, I installed 11.10 and firefox 8.0, flash is not working
[05:39] <badbandit> I am offered to dl a .tar from adobe, what do I do with that/
[05:39] <badbandit> I have never really figured out where programs are supposed to be installed in linux
[05:39] <zykotick9> !flash | badbandit
[05:40] <reisio> bfreis: it masks your IP
[05:40] <zykotick9> !cloak | bfreis
[05:42] <bfreis> reisio: why would I want it, anyway?
[05:42] <badbandit> ok but where would I extract a downloaded adobe flash package to?
[05:42] <bfreis> I mean, you know my IP address (actually, the one from which I'm connected to IRC), so?
[05:42] <badbandit> the thing is I use firefox nightly build mostly (9.0+), but it was crashing on some sites I develop on for some strange reason so I tried also installing stable 8.0
[05:42] <bfreis> why do you use hostname cloaking?
[05:42] <badbandit> flash works with 9.0 not 8.0
[05:44] <geoffmcc> badbandit: have you installed ubuntu-restricted-addons package?
[05:46] <badbandit> geoffmcc: it works now after restarting it... weird
[05:47] <badbandit> another question: the new system - display settings does not detect my 2nd monitor plugged into my laptop
[05:47] <geoffmcc> badbandit: yea i didnt notice till after i said something you said was working in 9 but not 8 so clearly you do have it installed
[05:47] <badbandit> I have to use nvidia-settings to get it going, however there are issues with that, is this familiar at all/
[05:47] <reisio> bfreis: so people who want your encrypted data can't as easily find your location and beat it out of you :p
[05:47] <bfreis> reisio: lol
[05:48] <badbandit> additionally, I notice since upgrading that application windows when maxed (in fact the screen area) goes under the top navbar
[05:48] <reisio> just an observation :p
[05:48] <badbandit> so for instance when an app starts if it's tangent to the topmost area, it will be underneath the top navbar and I have to painstakingling drag it down
[05:48] <badbandit> any cause for that/
[06:03] <joolawan> maybe iphone4 don't support the new kernel.
[06:06] <reisio> joolawan: ha
[06:06] <joolawan> krab
[06:06] <_Neytiri_> how do i make ubuntu rescan disks
[06:07] <reisio> _Neytiri_: for the boot menu?
[06:07] <joolawan> what's about 12.04?
[06:08] <joolawan> it's better than this or not
[06:08] <reisio> joolawan: possibly, but if you're talking about iPhoo compatibility, it's more to do with non-kernel software, IME
[06:09] <_Neytiri_> no i am running in the live cd and i safely remmoved a device but now i cant get it to pickthe device back up
[06:09] <joolawan> about iphone, it's not support with ubuntu in the future?
[06:11] <reisio> _Neytiri_: plug it in again?
[06:12] <reisio> joolawan: Apple does not make it easy to support their devices
[06:12] <reisio> joolawan: support outside of Apple software manifests from volunteer made software
[06:12] <reisio> joolawan: due to the popularity of the devices support is usually available, but it does tend to lag behind releases of the devices
[06:12] <reisio> longer if they've changed them a lot
[06:12] <Guest51710> hi guys, tricky issue! whenever i minimize firefox8 in my ubuntu11.10, it simply closes, how to stop this from happening?
[06:13] <reisio> joolawan: check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[06:13] <reisio> joolawan: whatever software that page mentions, if it doesn't support your iPhone version, it probably will soon; you can even possibly try out new code by checking it out of the software project's VCS and compiling it
[06:14] <Fudge> hi anyone using sapphire video cards successfully with ubuntu
[06:14] <reisio> anything more than sapphire?
[06:14] <OerHeks> Fudge, sapphire is a brand, nvidia or ati ?
[06:14] <joolawan> Hey reisio: The iphone 4 is supported with maverick.
[06:15] <joolawan> not about oneric
[06:15] <Fudge> think radeon? hd 6770 is the card
[06:16] <tensorpudding> that's ati
[06:16] <tensorpudding> should be supported through fglrx
[06:17] <joolawan> the ubuntu is supported about nvidia or not?
[06:17] <Fudge> tks, i was just looking for a card that can game, but i dont game myself that works out of the box and this was suggested
[06:17] <pnorman> Depending on what you're running and what resolution you're after, a 6770 might be a bit underpowered
[06:18] <neoplus> Hi,
[06:19] <reisio> joolawan: if it's supported by maverick, you can make it work with oneric
[06:19] <sully> hey; I just updated from 11.04 to 11.10 and noticed that the standard power indicator is no longer drawn by gnome-power-manager (which, in fact, no longer exists)
[06:19] <Fudge> its on an fx90 board with am3 8150, its not up yet just waiting on cpu to ship
[06:19] <sully> does anybody know what provides it now?
[06:19] <Fudge> im actually blind but needed a vidcard for this board so as long as its ok and not completely RS loL
[06:20] <Guest51710> hi guys, whenever i minimize firefox8 in my ubuntu11.10, it simply closes, how to stop this from happening?
[06:20] <sully> (I run a different window manager, but try to use some of the ubuntu/gnome infrastructure that makes thing behave like it is 2011)
[06:20] <Fudge> im reading about a pty catalyst linux driver
[06:20] <t1any3> ？？
[06:21] <t1any3> hello
[06:21] <t1any3> hello everybady
[06:22] <reisio> t1any3: hi
[06:22] <t1any3> HI
[06:22] <reisio> Guest51710: how are you minimizing it?
[06:22] <reisio> t1any3: hi
[06:22] <Hoyt> hi , anyone familiar with alternative iso ?
[06:23] <Hoyt> can i configure my disk partition manually and jump over that step in alternative iso installation image ?
[06:23] <t1any3> ?
[06:24] <Guest51710> @reisio - thanks for answering, i simply press the minimize button on the top left hand corner of the window. i also notice that when i press alt+tab the windows don't switch to firefox they keep rotating between the others which are open.
[06:27] <pnorman> Hoyt: I've used the server install which I understand is similar. I was able to skip over everything but specifying the mount points (since the installer has to know what partition you're using and what to install where)
[06:29] <abstrakt> I'm trying to get usb-creator.exe
[06:29] <abstrakt> but I mounted the ISO with Virtual CloneDrive
[06:29] <abstrakt> and all I see is wubi.exe
[06:29] <jadon> its in a folder
[06:29] <abstrakt> no usb-creator.exe to be found anywhere in any of these folders... what gives?
[06:30] <jadon> orly?
[06:30] <jadon> herm edy herm herm herm
[06:30] <abstrakt> jadon, which folder is it in?
[06:30] <jadon> i dont remember :(
[06:30] <jadon> what folders are listed?
[06:30] <abstrakt> too many to type here
[06:30] <jadon> ah
[06:30] <neoplus> m
[06:31] <neoplus> pls
[06:31] <jadon> can you screen shot and link me to imgur?
[06:31] <gurifisu> how can i get ubuntu to install the newer versions of boost
[06:31] <gurifisu> like libboost 1.45 etc
[06:31] <jadon> gurifisu: sudo apt-get install libboost   ??
[06:31] <gurifisu> the repos only have up to version 1.42
[06:31] <gurifisu> like libboost 1.48 is already out
[06:32] <zykotick9> !latest | gurifisu
[06:32] <jadon> gurifisu: do they have a .deb for 1.45/48?
[06:32] <jadon> is tmg on?
[06:32] <gurifisu> hm no i dont think so
[06:33] <jadon> abstrakt: are you putting a screen shot on imgur?
[06:33] <abstrakt> jadon, no, sorry
[06:34] <jadon> abstrakt: k iwas wondering cause i have to go and didnt want to leave you hanging
[06:34] <gurifisu> zykotick9, so basically ubuntu is a piece of shit and won't let me install newer versions
[06:34] <abstrakt> jadon, it's ok, go do what you need, i'm reading more
[06:34] <zykotick9> gurifisu, nice attitude there.
[06:34] <tensorpudding> gurifisu, ubuntu doesn't prevent you from installing new packages
[06:35] <tensorpudding> gurifisu, go to the website, download their source, and build it. caveat emptor
[06:35] <gurifisu> well i'd need to make it work nice with apt still no?
[06:35] <zykotick9> !checkinstall | gurifisu
[06:35] <tensorpudding> it'd probably be good to do that, if you want it to not possibly conflict with installed software
[06:37] <zykotick9> gurifisu, but if you are looking for a distro with newer packaging, see Arch or Gentoo.
[06:37] <gurifisu> lol i came from debian
[06:37] <tensorpudding> packages are maintained by people
[06:37] <gurifisu> expecting ubuntu to be newer
[06:37] <tensorpudding> ubuntu gets its packages from whatever is in debian sid at the time that freeze is approaching
[06:37] <nuggets> so who is here?
[06:38] <tensorpudding> unless it's a big enough deal that the maintainers will packages something newer that's not in debian for some reason, that version is what ends up in ubuntu and it can be out-of-date
[06:39] <Guest51710> @reisio - any thoughts or shall i repost the question?
[06:41] <Emiru> guys how do you put music on a jailbroken ipod ????
[06:45] <Guest51710> hi guys, whenever i minimize firefox8 in my ubuntu11.10, it simply closes, how to stop this from happening?
[06:45] <tensorpudding> how do you figure that it closes
[06:48] <zykotick9> Guest51710, are you using Unity or gnome-shell (or something else)?
[06:48] <zivester> what's the best hard drive performance benchmarking application for linux?  Basically want something (can be command line) that  gives me similar results to Atto or HDTach... in terms of real worl performance, random reads and writes ,and sequential reads and rights... the farther i've gotten is `sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sda`
[06:48] <Guest51710> @zykotick9 - unity
[06:51] <Koketso_Mabuse> Hi there help please
[06:51] <zykotick9> !ask | Koketso_Mabuse
[06:53] <Koketso_Mabuse> I have had to remove ooo and install and now it keep giving me issue trying to reinstall it fails to install fails because of dependecies and I cannot seem to be able to install those dependencies any thoughts
[06:54] <zykotick9> Koketso_Mabuse, do you mean OpenOffice.org?  It's been replaced in Ubuntu repos by LibreOffice I believe.
[06:55] <Koketso_Mabuse> Yes but I am using it to work with OpenERP Aeroo reports
[06:56] <Koketso_Mabuse> I have Libreoffice but it gives errors when I open existing templates
[06:56] <Ubu_Noob> Can anyone tell me how i can edit the grub2 settings?
[06:57] <computer_> Does anyone else find it really crap that Banshee does not resume pod-casts at the last second it was playing?
[06:57] <reisio> sounds like a bug
[06:57] <Koketso_Mabuse> computer_ tried using rhymbox
[06:57] <zykotick9> Ubu_Noob, some of the settings are in /etc/default/grub
[06:57] <computer_> But I really like Banshee
[06:57] <reisio> computer_: ask #banshee on irc.gnome.org about it
[06:58] <computer_> Thanks reisio will do
[06:58] <computer_> Thanks reisio will do
[06:58] <computer_> oops sorry
[06:58] <Ubu_Noob> zykotick9 is the /etc folder in my home directory?
[06:59] <zykotick9> Ubu_Noob, no...
[06:59] <computer_> Isn't /etc in /?
[06:59] <Koketso_Mabuse> Try my computer/ File System then etc
[07:00] <Ubu_Noob> zykotick9, thank you i found it
[07:00] <reisio> computer_: no, etc/ is in /
[07:01] <Koketso_Mabuse> Any thoughts on how to fix the install of OpenOffice.org
[07:01] <computer_> That's exactly way I typed reisio
[07:02] <reisio> computer_: :p
[07:02] <walo> hi
[07:02] <walo> :x
[07:02] <Koketso_Mabuse> come now peeps no scaving
[07:03] <Beetle> what is scaving
[07:04] <Koketso_Mabuse> peeling each others skin off bit by bit
[07:04] <Koketso_Mabuse> lol
[07:04] <Beetle> kinky
[07:05] <Koketso_Mabuse> I guess not
[07:05] <Beetle> no?
[07:06] <Koketso_Mabuse> Looking to resolve a matter of rather great importance, I guess I will reinstall  my "/"
[07:06] <reisio> was that a question?
[07:08] <Koketso_Mabuse> I asked a question on " any thoughts on how to resolve the ddependancie issue for OOO
[07:09] <Koketso_Mabuse> Yep its a thought /question
[07:09] <_Neytiri_> anyone here know how to manually install grub?
[07:11] <zykotick9> _Neytiri_, what do you mean?  Have you consulted the !grub (for loosing grub after windows install) or !grub2 for further details?
[07:11] <Koketso_Mabuse> sudo apt-get install grup??? possible
[07:11] <_Neytiri_> i had a issue where 11.10 install failed to install grub
[07:11] <zykotick9> _Neytiri_, raid?
[07:11] <_Neytiri_> i got it installed and when i rebooted i am sitting at a grub> _ prompt
[07:11] <_Neytiri_> yes raid
[07:12] <Jonii> a question: anyone know a way to reformat bunch of lines from "    <number> <text>" to "<text>:<number>"? google keywords or anything?
[07:12] <reisio> Jonii: is there always only one space?
[07:12] <Koketso_Mabuse> try this for the grub: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[07:13] <reisio> awk '{ print $2 ":" $1 }'
[07:13] <Jonii> reisio: between the two? yes
[07:14] <Jonii> but theres space at the beginning
[07:15] <_Neytiri_> zykotick9,  yes its a raided disk
[07:16] <zykotick9> _Neytiri_, ya i saw your reply.  I can't help - good luck.
[07:16] <_Neytiri_> i have grub installed
[07:17] <_Neytiri_> it jsut seems to not be configured
[07:17] <_Neytiri_> and i dont know how to configure it from the livecd
[07:18] <nineteen67comet> Hello, I built a new computer a few months ago, but the motherboard doesn't have as many USB connections as my case does. Is there a good site that shows how to add USB cards for internal/case USB connections? (One port is also USB 3.0)
[07:19] <reisio> just run a line from the board to a hub
[07:19] <ubuntu386> I need help.  I was running Ubuntu 10.04 on a Macbook 1,1 ... now its booting to busybox
[07:19] <reisio> http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1379023
[07:19] <gbjiug> &server irc.openjoke.net
[07:20] <ubuntu386> I've got a Pendrive set up, but I have no idea how to launch the installer from it.  the mac's boot manager won't detect the USB drive (formatted in fat32)
[07:20] <ubuntu386> Is there anyway to launch the installer from busybox's initramfs prompt?
[07:20] <reisio> ubuntu386: what installer?
[07:20] <nineteen67comet> Sorry clicked the wrong button
[07:21] <Russ> anyone else here running precise with gnome3? neither eog nor evince will start for me
[07:21] <Russ> they both hang trying to talk to some utouch thing
[07:21] <ubuntu386> trying to reinstall ubuntu
[07:21] <ubuntu386> reisio: I want to just make a new clean ubuntu installation
[07:21] <ubuntu386> but i have no idea how to do it through busy box
[07:22] <reisio> ubuntu386: I don't think you'd want to, through busybox
[07:23] <ubuntu386> Do I have any other option?
[07:23] <zykotick9> ubuntu386, (i could easily be wrong about this) but i didn't think Mac's could boot from USB?  Can't you use a CD/DVD?
[07:23] <reisio> I'm pretty sure you can install from a USB stick normally
[07:23] <mrpink57> busybox, I assume you that is doing install through ubuntu cli?
[07:23] <ubuntu386> zykotick9::CD drive doesn't work afik
[07:24] <ubuntu386> If I go to the boot manager, it doesn't detect the USB drive.  If I let it boot normally i get stuck at busy box
[07:24] <mrpink57> maybe usb cd drive?
[07:24] <ubuntu386> don't have one on hand :(
[07:24] <Koketso_Mabuse> Have you got a external drive?
[07:25] <Koketso_Mabuse> Ubuntu386
[07:25] <ubuntu386> neg
[07:25] <Koketso_Mabuse> neg???
[07:26] <ubuntu386> no i don't
[07:26] <ubuntu386> is there anyway to repair the ubuntu install through busybox?
[07:26] <mrpink57> ubuntu386: http://superuser.com/questions/52623/ubuntu-install-boots-into-busybox might this work?
[07:26] <OerHeks> ubuntu386, how did you put ubuntu on your machine in the first place ?
[07:26] <li-nux> there doesn't seem to be any radio stations in rhythmbox anymore, or even a radio selection in the left pane, anyone else get this?
[07:27] <mrpink57> ubuntu386: the other option would be to get puppy and install it on a usb but use the magic option in puppy it will make it into a fdd or hdd or floppy if needed
[07:28] <pepper> hey everyone
[07:31] <wiggmpk> HELP ME! I lost 'sudo' power (yields "is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported"), su yields authentication failure. I believe i misused a usermod -G command an inadvertently removed myself from sudoers. Can "usermod -G (user) (group)" do that if I failed to redeclare all the groups I wanted?
[07:31] <ikonia> wiggmpk: don't panic, easy to resolve
[07:31] <ikonia> wiggmpk: you have removed yourself from the "admin" group (you should never use "su"
[07:31] <wiggmpk> I dont have access to a LiveCD atm
[07:32] <ubuntu386> OerHeks: I didn't do it, it was the friend who lent me the computer
[07:32] <ikonia> wiggmpk: if you boot into recovery mode from the grub menu, you will get a root shell (providing you have not changed the root password)
[07:32] <wiggmpk> I know, but when I couldnt access sudo, I paniced and tried to use SU (even though I keep root locked by default)
[07:32] <zykotick9> wiggmpk, for future reference you need "usermod -aG.." the -a is append
[07:32] <ikonia> wiggmpk: from there you can re-add your user with "usermod" to the "admin" group
[07:32] <Flannel> zykotick9, wiggmpk: even safer is to use adduser user group
[07:32] <wiggmpk> zykotick9: thanks, I new it was probably carelessness on my part lol
[07:33] <wiggmpk> Flannel: not if the user already exists, it will complain
[07:33] <Flannel> wiggmpk: No.  "adduser user group" adds "user" to "group"
[07:33] <Flannel> it's the fifth syntax line in the manpage.
[07:34] <wiggmpk> Flannel: well it didnt work when I tried it, I may have mis used the syntax
[07:34] <x3k4p> hi
[07:34] <Flannel> wiggmpk: could be.  It does work though, I promise :)
[07:34] <wiggmpk> ikonia: question, I'll have to add all default groups back to my user since they were pretty much trampled on buy my careless "usermod -G" correct?
[07:34] <wiggmpk> Flannel: I'll take your word, your a pretty reliable source =P
[07:35] <zykotick9> s/pretty reliable/very reliable/
[07:35] <wiggmpk> and generally speaking, My root account should be locked, will that stop root access in the recovery console?
[07:36] <ikonia> wiggmpk: yes, but the important once is the "admin" group
[07:36] <ikonia> wiggmpk: no, the fact that the root account is locked, is a good thing
[07:36] <wiggmpk> ikonia: roger that, thanks for the help
[07:36] <ikonia> wiggmpk: not a problem
[07:39] <afidegnum> Hello good morning all, I have installed vmware in my windoes pc and installed ubuntu. ho wdo I send email from my ubuntu unit. ?
[07:39] <ikonia> afidegnum: you will need a mail server running, or a smarthost to relay from
[07:40] <ikonia> afidegnum: you'll also need to make sure your vmware network is setup to bridge your connection to the outside world
[07:40] <tensorpudding> afidegnum, how would you normally send email from ubuntu?
[07:41] <tensorpudding> you would do what you normally do, except you'll want to setup vmware to bridge your connection like ikonia said
[07:41] <afidegnum> ok
[07:42] <afidegnum> so what application do I use for that
[07:42] <afidegnum> ?
[07:42] <ikonia> afidegnum: for what ?
[07:42] <almoxarife> !info evolution  | afidegnum
[07:42] <llutz_> afidegnum: thunderbird comes by default
[07:42] <ikonia> afidegnum: evolution won't send mail
[07:42] <ikonia> ignore that
[07:42] <tensorpudding> if you want a fancy email client like outlook you can look at evolution and thunderbird
[07:43] <ikonia> you will need a mail server or relay running, and your connection bridged, there are any number of clients available once you've done that
[07:43] <afidegnum> well, I am chatting here from my ubuntu unit.
[07:43] <tensorpudding> open up thunderbird, configure it for your email account
[07:43] <tensorpudding> you could use a webmail service for gmail or something too
[07:43] <afidegnum> meaning I can browse, so I will need to install the application which will handle mails right from here
[07:44] <tensorpudding> thunderbird is already installed
[07:44] <llutz_> afidegnum: thunderbird should be installed
[07:44] <afidegnum> ok, installing thunderbird, I don't know if it's installed, let me find out
[07:45] <llutz_> afidegnum: if you're looking for a mail-client like thunderbird, there's no need to install a mail-server
[07:45] <walo> DCC Gets: [ Cars.2.DVDR-TGP.tar ] From MAFiA-A5. FileSize: [ 4509.87MB ] With 0% Complete. Speed: [ 396.77kb/s ] Time Left: [ 3hrs 13mins 41secs ]
[07:45] <afidegnum> ok, I thnk I will also need a mail server, I am setting up a web server which will allow me to send and receive mail
[07:45] <afidegnum> for a development platform
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[07:45] <llutz_> afidegnum: then you need it, yes
[07:45] <tensorpudding> walo, stop
[07:46] <walo> sorry
[07:46] <afidegnum> so what email server do I use ?
[07:46] <afidegnum> apart from configuring thuderbird?
[07:46] <tensorpudding> afidegnum, do you know what it is you want to do
[07:46] <llutz_> afidegnum: exim, postfix, sendmail
[07:47] <afidegnum> hmm, postfix made me sweat on vps server, installing it again, is chilling my bones
[07:47] <tensorpudding> setting up a server so that it can receive email is a real pain, just so you know
[07:47] <llutz_> it's not
[07:47] <gurifisu> when i install a package - where do all the libraries end up in
[07:47] <gurifisu> i installed libmgl and i need to link against it
[07:47] <tensorpudding> oh, i guess you already know what it's like
[07:48] <afidegnum> tensorpudding: well, as said earlier, I am setting a mail server which will alllow me to test the application and test its mail functionalities as well
[07:48] <zykotick9> gurifisu, you could use "dpkg -L libmgl" to see where it installed stuff...
[07:49] <tensorpudding> gurifisu, in /usr, in various places, depending on what files
[07:49] <tensorpudding> libs are in /usr/lib
[07:49] <llutz_> afidegnum: i'd suggest postfix, it has a very good documentation, for more help #postfix here on freenode
[07:49] <tensorpudding> headers are in /usr/include
[07:49] <tensorpudding> binaries in /usr/bin
[07:49] <tensorpudding> resource files in /usr/share
[07:49] <gurifisu> thanks
[07:49] <afidegnum> ok
[07:49] <tensorpudding> docfiles in /usr/share/doc
[07:49] <tensorpudding> manpages in /usr/share/man, etc.
[07:49] <zykotick9> tensorpudding, we get it
[07:50] <wiggmpk> alright, having an issue in the recovery console, getting cannot lock /etc/group when trying to add my user back to admin. would this be because I'm using an encrypted home directory at all?
[07:50] <ikonia> wiggmpk: /etc is not encypted
[07:51] <ikonia> wiggmpk: ls -la /etc/group
[07:51] <wiggmpk> ikonia: oh no, only root is listed =/
[07:51] <wiggmpk> ikonia: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 914 2011-11-29 01:50 /etc/group
[07:51] <ikonia> wiggmpk: what are you doing ?
[07:51] <ikonia> wiggmpk: what command are you ussing
[07:52] <afidegnum> llutz_: ok, between exim, postfix and send mail what would you suggest me to install
[07:52] <afidegnum> ?
[07:52] <wiggmpk> ikonia: in recovery? I used "usermod -G admin (username)"
[07:52] <godofmischief> anyone here migrate a virtualbox guest ubuntu to its own physical HD?
[07:52] <llutz_> afidegnum: i'd suggest postfix, it has a very good documentation, for more help #postfix here on freenode
[07:52] <afidegnum> ok,
[07:53] <ikonia> wiggmpk: fuser /etc/group
[07:53] <wiggmpk> ikonia: should that yield some result in a console?
[07:54] <Squarism> is there some way to move windows between actual displays (not workspace "views") in unity under 11.10?
[07:54] <zykotick9> godofmischief, it's probably a lot more work then it'll be worth.  Reinstalling and cloning packages is probably a lot easier (see /msg ubottu clone).  IF you don't get any replies here, you could try #vbox.
[07:55] <ikonia> wiggmpk: if anything else is using it, yes
[07:55] <me-1> hi...how can I make macbuntu usb using "universal usb installer"
[07:55] <ikonia> wiggmpk: grep admin /etc/group
[07:57] <wiggmpk> ikonia: I'll admit, I dont know what I'm looking at here, but I assume my user should be listed in this http://paste.ubuntu.com/753402/
[07:57] <ikonia> wiggmpk: that's good, just checking the group existed
[07:58] <ikonia> wiggmpk: so "usermod -G admin $username" what does that say now
[07:59] <wiggmpk> ikonia: "usermod: cannot lock /etc/passwd: try again later." So why isnt it still complaining about "sudoers"
[07:59] <ikonia> wiggmpk: because you are not using sudo
[07:59] <ikonia> wiggmpk: what is the username you are trying to use ?
[07:59] <wiggmpk> ikonia: oh duh
[07:59] <wiggmpk> wiggmpk
[07:59] <ikonia> wiggmpk: have you found the problem ?
[08:00] <ikonia> ooh, the "duh" was for the sudo comment
[08:00] <wiggmpk> ikonia: ya
[08:00] <wiggmpk> ikonia: lol
[08:00] <ikonia> wiggmpk: grep wiggmpk /etc/passwd
[08:00] <wiggmpk> ikonia: wiggmpk:x:1000:1000:WIGGMPk,,,:/home/wiggmpk:/bin/bash
[08:01] <ikonia> wiggmpk: so, "usermod -G admin wiggmpk"
[08:01] <afidegnum> hello, it seems I have to install smarthost first,
[08:01] <ikonia> wiggmpk: is that still complaining
[08:01] <wiggmpk> ikonia: yes, about not being able to lock /etc/passwd
[08:01] <ikonia> wiggmpk: yes
[08:01] <ikonia> wiggmpk: please post the output of "id"
[08:02] <wiggmpk> ikonia: uid=1000(wiggmpk) gid=1000(wiggmpk) groups=1000(wiggmpk),126(vboxusers)
[08:02] <ikonia> wiggmpk: you are not root
[08:02] <ikonia> wiggmpk: that is the reason
[08:02] <wiggmpk> ikonia: as you can see the group I was trying to add when I trampled my priveleges
[08:02] <pppurple> can any one point me in a direction to setting up a partition on my hard drive?
[08:02] <ikonia> wiggmpk: you can't use usermod unless you are root (or sudo)
[08:02] <ikonia> !gparted | pppurple
[08:03] <wiggmpk> ikonia: yes, I need to drop into recovery to gain root, but the outcome is still the same, it complains about not being able to lock /etc/groups and use "adduser" instead yields "cannot lock /etc/passwd
[08:04] <ikonia> wiggmpk: when you drop into the recovery console, run the command "id" and tell me what it says
[08:04] <wiggmpk> ikonia: alright, I'll have to get back to ya, dont have another machine to work from atm
[08:04] <wiggmpk> ikonia: I appreciate your time =)
[08:05] <afidegnum> pls while I did telnet localhost 25   I am told connection refused, wht do I do ?
[08:05] <ikonia> afidegnum: you don't have a mail server running
[08:05] <pppurple> ok with a little preface. im trying to preface windows so i can install ubuntu which i am new to...double checking all my bases so i dont screw myself
[08:05] <afidegnum> I am installing postfix
[08:05] <pppurple> is there a good link to do this?
[08:06] <ikonia> pppurple: yes, use the tool I gave you
[08:06] <afidegnum> ikonia: is smarthost an application I have to install ?
[08:06] <ikonia> afidegnum: can you not use your ISP's mail host (smarthost)
[08:06] <ikonia> afidegnum: setting up a mail server is not something you should do without a good reason
[08:06] <afidegnum> hmm, the issue is getting complicated now,
[08:06] <afidegnum> I am giving up
[08:06] <ikonia> afidegnum: not really, ISP mail server, point your client at it
[08:07] <afidegnum> ok, can I configure postfix to connect to something like gmail, or my webmail server ?
[08:07] <Filthy_Macnasty> does gmail have an smtp smarthost?
[08:07] <ikonia> afidegnum: forget postfix
[08:07] <ikonia> afidegnum: gmail/webmail are web clients, just point your browser at them
[08:07] <afidegnum> ok, I am forgetting about it
[08:08] <rizzo> i put a dvd in my comp and its saying that there is nothing in the drive
[08:08] <afidegnum> ok, here we are, I am setting up drupal to my localhost.
[08:08] <abadr> How do I disable the dash keyboard shortcut in 11.10? I've tried changing the "Key to show the launcher" setting in CCSM but that seems to be something different.
[08:08] <afidegnum> my project specicatiosn involves the use of email
[08:08] <Filthy_Macnasty> check that port 25 isnt restricted by your provider
[08:09] <afidegnum> hence using drupal on my localhost, to test mail functionalities, so once done, I can move to the remote server
[08:09] <afidegnum> what do you think about sendmail? \
[08:09] <Filthy_Macnasty> if you got a login at gmail use smtp.gmail.com as a smarthost maybe?
[08:09] <llutz_> afidegnum: so you just need to send mail from php? use msmtp/ssmtp for this. let googlemail send your mail
[08:09] <ikonia> afidegnum: do not use sendmail
[08:10] <rizzo> and its saying the permissions of the drive could not b determined
[08:10] <afidegnum> msmtp/ssmtp do I ahve to install it?
[08:10] <Filthy_Macnasty> the drive is fubar maybe?
[08:10] <Filthy_Macnasty> or try cleaning the disk
[08:10] <rizzo> fubar??
[08:10] <afidegnum> or configure it from my php script?
[08:10] <llutz_> afidegnum: 1st you have to say what you really need to do
[08:11] <Filthy_Macnasty> foxtrot beyond all recognition
[08:11] <rizzo> im not sure how to configure that
[08:11] <afidegnum> yes, that is waht I said earlier, using drupal (php web app) to send and receive mail, so if possible, it can use gmail or my hosting webmail to send mail and receive mail into that box
[08:11] <llutz_> afidegnum: do you need to receive mail from internet (which wouldn't work if you are dial-up/dsl user)?
[08:12] <Filthy_Macnasty> use postfix with a smarthost set that to smtp.gmail.com with your login done
[08:12] <Filthy_Macnasty> sorted
[08:12] <afidegnum> well, I am using adsl connectivity here, is there a way to receive email with it ?
[08:12] <wiggmpk> ikonia: uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root) is what "id" yields in recovery
[08:12] <llutz_> afidegnum: do you have a static-ip and a domain pointing to it or are yu dial-up/dsl at home?
[08:13] <Filthy_Macnasty> yes, use dyndns and set an mx record to your temporary home
[08:13] <afidegnum> no, we are using dynamic ip address
[08:13] <llutz_> afidegnum: no one will deliver mail to a dial-up
[08:13] <llutz_> afidegnum: even dnydns and mail is a bad idea
[08:13] <afidegnum> hehe, I am not using dial up, lol
[08:13] <Filthy_Macnasty> if you use a keepalive in your router it should work
[08:13] <Filthy_Macnasty> af, yes you are
[08:13] <llutz_> afidegnum: adsl is like dialup (dynamic ip etc)
[08:13] <afidegnum> ok ok
[08:13] <rizzo>  sorry im not THAT computer literate
[08:14] <Filthy_Macnasty> who is your provider?
[08:14] <afidegnum> well, I am giving up again... hell noo
[08:14] <afidegnum> Vodafone Ghana
[08:14] <Filthy_Macnasty> dont know what their terms of use say about port 25
[08:15] <Filthy_Macnasty> I know charter and the bell shut me off in about 2.5ms for using port 25
[08:15] <afidegnum> I think port supposed to work
[08:15] <afidegnum> why? why will they shut you down for thtat?
[08:15] <afidegnum> can we allocate another port apart from port 25 ?
[08:15] <ikonia> afidegnum: just point your application to use the gmail smtp servers, you'll find it much much easier
[08:15] <llutz_> afidegnum: 587 submission
[08:15] <Filthy_Macnasty> terms of service, no using port 25 smtp on dynamic addresses you gotta buy the business bundle
[08:16] <Filthy_Macnasty> with the static ip
[08:17] <llutz_> afidegnum: get  a cheap vps somewhere, setup your services and you'll be happy
[08:18] <Filthy_Macnasty> I know its not the method of choice for ubuntu people but take a look at deeproot linux for your answer
[08:18] <afidegnum> I had a vps sometimes ago, set up GPLhost/DTC  found myself sending mail but couldn't receive mails
[08:18] <afidegnum> a tribulation I had to go through I had to give u[p
[08:18] <Filthy_Macnasty> because you didnt have an mx record on anything
[08:19] <Filthy_Macnasty> no mx record, no incoming mail
[08:19] <Filthy_Macnasty> sounds like a dns error not a php one
[08:19] <llutz_> layer-8 error :)
[08:19] <Filthy_Macnasty> rofl
[08:20] <vlt> Hello. Is it possible on Ubuntu to use rdesktop (or something else) to connect to a Windows Terminal Server but show just one application (like MS Office) in a a separate window and not the whole desktop)?
[08:20] <Filthy_Macnasty> here, this is a uni project right?
[08:20] <Filthy_Macnasty> take a clean box, install deeproot linux and be done with it
[08:22] <llutz_> thats no matter of a special distro, you always need some knowledge to run services like mail
[08:22] <Filthy_Macnasty> its a mail server in a can llutz
[08:23] <Filthy_Macnasty> while I do agree that knowledge of how the engine works is critical, some people can just install an engine and go on
[08:26] <llutz_> Filthy_Macnasty: even a "server in a can" needs knowledge. and if you have that knowledge, you can use whatever mta you want. i still prefer those with good documentation and good online help (mlists, irc)
[08:26] <Filthy_Macnasty> deeproot uses email answers from some nice indian fellows that really know the system
[08:26] <osmosis_paul> Good morning, something wierd is happend with my Skype. Normally if I hide the program under other programs disappear, and then one I click over the icon of the left Icon menu show me the login interface, but I'm already login so I cannot login again
[08:27] <osmosis_paul> so I have to kill the process and login again
[08:27] <osmosis_paul> happens since I was playing with Unity, because If I create a new Account does not happend
[08:27] <llutz_> osmosis_paul: pkill skype
[08:27] <osmosis_paul> llutz, I was looking for a definitive solution the kill process I do like 5 times per day :-)
[08:28] <Filthy_Macnasty> place it on another desktop
[08:28] <osmosis_paul> Filthy_Macnasty, I try that as well and nothing, but thanls
[08:28] <wiggmpk> ikonia: if your still there, I figured out what I was doing wrong, I didnt remount the root filesystem with write privilege. after doing that, modifying users/groups worked as expected
[08:29] <ikonia> ahhhh well spotted
[08:29] <osmosis_paul> Is something related with Unity
[08:29] <Filthy_Macnasty> well played
[08:29] <wiggmpk> just me getting ahead of myself like usual, its what got me into the mess lol
[08:30] <Filthy_Macnasty> its called learning
[08:30] <Inumedia> I'm using the ATI proprietary drivers for my ATI Radeon 3100, and whenever I turn on Xinerama all my effects seem to get disabled, does anyone know if there's a fix for this?
[08:31] <wiggmpk> quick question, can you slam these parameters together like this "usermod -aG" or do they have to be "usermod -a -G"?
[08:31] <llutz_> wiggmpk: -aG is fine
[08:31] <Inumedia> Or if there's some log that might be able to tell me what's happening?
[08:31] <wiggmpk> llutz_: cool, thanks
[08:31] <llutz_> wiggmpk: you should consider using adduser/addgroup
[08:32] <wiggmpk> llutz_: oh right, Flannel has mentioned that as well
[08:32] <Squarism> is there something similar to "gnome-do" in unity?
[08:32] <llutz_> wiggmpk: not as dangerous as usermod without -a
[08:32] <Squarism> open-using-file-extension-associated-program that is
[08:33] <Inumedia> Squarism: gnome-do still works even with Unity
[08:33] <Squarism> Inumedia, it doesnt come with 11.10 though
[08:33] <Squarism> thought there was a replacement
[08:33] <Inumedia> You could use Alt + F2
[08:33] <e01> i have troubles while try to install smartsvn on ubuntu 11.10, can anybody help me, seems that java is not suitable :(
[08:35] <Inumedia> Squarism: Or you could just install it from the Ubuntu Software Center.
[08:36] <Filthy_Macnasty> does anyone know of a linux type variant of logmein rescue?
[08:39] <bela_> slt
[08:39] <JadedJacob> my laptop won't wake from suspend.
[08:40] <Roms> amir
[08:40] <JadedJacob> the fans all power up, but there is no display
[08:40] <bela_> saluuuuut
[08:40] <Filthy_Macnasty> JadedJacob tried popping off the header panel and plugging in the monitor?
[08:40] <conntrack> G'day
[08:40] <Roms> et yo
[08:41] <Filthy_Macnasty> G'day conntrack
[08:41] <tapo> hi is there a solution to the FUTEX_WAIT problem when starting java appplications in ubuntu (oneiric, 64bit)?
[08:41] <JadedJacob> i don't use a monitor
[08:41] <Guest37652> hi guys. i have a problem with samba on 11.10. i get an error "failed to mount windows share" while trying to access windows shared folder from ubuntu. no problem accessing ubuntu shared from windows though.
[08:41] <tapo> Guest37652: try it first in command line
[08:41] <bela_> romain romain romain
[08:41] <Filthy_Macnasty> Guest37652: I assume samba3
[08:42] <tapo> Guest37652: smbclient (enter) show all options. try smbclient -U username -L host
[08:42] <Guest37652> ok, i'll try that
[08:45] <abadr> How do I disable the dash keyboard shortcut in 11.10? I've tried changing the "Key to show the launcher" setting in CCSM but that seems to be something different.
[08:46] <bela_> salamou alikom
[08:48] <m3ridian> I've got a virtual 10.4LTS Server running. After a reboot (a new kernel had previouly been installed) this morning it's unable to start. It doesn't matter which kernel I select. The only thing I see on a normal boot is a black screen and a _  , if I boot in recovery I can see it detect the disks attached but after running "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ..." and returning "Done." the
[08:48] <m3ridian> machine freezes and does not seem to be alive.
[08:49] <JadedJacob> m3ridian, are you using grub to start the server?
[08:49] <m3ridian> JadedJacob: yes
[08:51] <JadedJacob> have you tried running the command 'update-grub'
[08:52] <m3ridian> JadedJacob, no
[08:52] <m3ridian> I'll boot a rescue cd
[08:52] <JadedJacob> yep
[08:53] <conntrack> I guess user__ is having a bad day
[08:53] <_Neytiri_> how do i fix a system from the grum rescue menu?
[08:54] <Randolph> hi all
[08:54] <m3ridian> JadedJacob, does it matter if I use a different version of the live cd than what the server has ?
[08:55] <PDSmedia> how do I kill a print job stuck in the queue?
[08:56] <almoxarife> PDSmedia: you see it in a gui?
[08:56] <PDSmedia> yes  but mouse is frozen
[08:56] <PDSmedia> can get to a terminal window
[08:57] <almoxarife> PDSmedia: frozen mouse, stuck printer, I am guessing a reboot is out of the question?
[08:58] <PDSmedia> tried that.  after reboot, mouse freezes in 30 sec
[08:58] <iceroot> PDSmedia: lprm
[08:58] <iceroot> PDSmedia: to see the queue use "lpq"
[08:59] <almoxarife> PDSmedia: you have bigger issues then, looked at the logs?
[09:00] <Squarism> howdy, if i wanna set up a sort of tunnel from one machine (un-nat'ed ) to a my (nat'ed) on a certain port... preferably not permanent / with some nice commanline "tunneling demaon". Could that be done?
[09:00] <abadr> Alternatively: is there a way to disable Dash completely?
[09:00] <PDSmedia> I see jobs in the queue but nothing is printing
[09:01] <PDSmedia> don't know how to find logs
[09:01] <almoxarife> PDSmedia: printer on?
[09:01] <Squarism> So that a connection to UN-NAT-MACHINE:PORT  goes to NAT-MACHINE:PORT
[09:01] <PDSmedia> yes. status light would be flashing and it's not
[09:02] <almoxarife> PDSmedia: first time you have printed from this machine/printer?
[09:03] <PDSmedia> no. I printed earlier and it worked but still froze mouse right after sending to print
[09:04] <JadedJacob> m3ridian: What live cd are using?
[09:05] <almoxarife> PDSmedia: the printer ever actually work without freezing the mouse? mouse freezes usually?
[09:06] <PDSmedia> not so far.  this install of 10.04 is only a week old
[09:06] <luca_bi> nickserv identify LucaBiolcati fili1982
[09:06] <llutz_> luca_bi: time to change passwsd
[09:06] <almoxarife> PDSmedia: 10? or 11?
[09:06]  * Inumedia lol'd.
[09:07] <PDSmedia> 10.04 64bit
[09:07] <luca_bi> llutz_: How can I change it?
[09:07] <llutz_> luca_bi: /msg nickserv help
[09:08] <mahiti> hi, whats the support period for 12.04?
[09:08] <almoxarife> PDSmedia: thought of upgrading?
[09:08] <PDSmedia> yes. separate issue.  ran 11 in virtual machine and hate it
[09:08] <JadedJacob> luca_bi: make sure you always start with a "/" when running irc commands so they don't get printed to the channel
[09:09] <llutz_> and don't use server-commands in a channel tab
[09:09] <PDSmedia> again, how can I kill the 2 print jobs?
[09:09] <llutz_> PDSmedia: lprm
[09:10] <PDSmedia> did that already. lpq still shows 2 jobs
[09:10] <Inumedia> Does 11.10 have a built in VPN server?
[09:10] <usr13> PDSmedia: If it is the default printer, lprm
[09:10] <luca_bi> DROP <LucaBiolcati> <fili1982>
[09:11] <llutz_> lprm for any printer (-P printername)
[09:11] <Inumedia> luca_bi, you're missing a forward-slash.
[09:11] <realsifo> hello
[09:11] <usr13> PDSmedia: But mouse freezing must be a different issue.  Look at /var/log/messages  Alt-F2 gnome-terminal and run tail -f /var/log/messages
[09:11] <realsifo> i need amd radeon driver in gnome 3
[09:11] <luca_bi> Inumedia: thanks
[09:11] <PDSmedia> now lprm says no active print jobs
[09:12] <usr13> PDSmedia: lpq
[09:12] <realsifo> how to fix amd radeon in gnome 3?
[09:12] <flysnowchiu> mint is good
[09:12] <PDSmedia> and the printer status icon in the upper right corner is gone
[09:12] <rabbi1> How to see the contents of usb external harddisk?
[09:12] <usr13> PDSmedia: Was it the default printer?
[09:12] <luca_bi> I cannot drop y account
[09:12] <PDSmedia> now how do I regain mouse control?
[09:12] <pppurple> is it hard to work with a hard drive in linux thats formated in NTSF?
[09:12] <luca_bi> I tried with /
[09:13] <usr13> PDSmedia: Try unplugging and plugging it in again.
[09:13] <mahiti> hi, whats the support period for 12.04??
[09:13] <rabbi1> pppurple: nope
[09:13] <PDSmedia> yes, can't check is it is the default now but  that was how I set it before
[09:13] <milamber> !lts | mahiti
[09:13] <llutz_> luca_bi: /msg nickserv help set                   (  /msg nickserv set passwd..... )
[09:13] <pppurple> so ntfs is supporeted by Ub?
[09:13] <milamber> rabbi1: is it mounted?
[09:13] <usr13> PDSmedia: lpq
[09:14] <deej1976> mahiti: 12.04 has been report in the press to have 5 year support for desktop
[09:14] <rabbi1> milamber: nope, i am unable to find the drive, its infact a laptop harddisk
[09:14] <usr13> pppurple: Yes
[09:14] <PDSmedia> I think I have all print jobs killed now, thanks
[09:14] <pppurple> Thank you!
[09:14] <rabbi1> milamber: "df" command doesn't list the drive
[09:14] <milamber> mahiti: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[09:14] <usr13> PDSmedia: What does /var/log/messages say?  Anything?
[09:14] <PDSmedia> I unplugged the sending unit for the wireless mouse and pointer control did not come back
[09:15] <pigiman> hey, is there any way to "fast switch" between usb headset and line speakers ?
[09:15] <milamber> rabbi1: and you are using usb?
[09:15] <realsifo> is fglrx not compatible with gnome 3 shell?
[09:15] <rabbi1> milamber: yeap
[09:15] <milamber> rabbi1: unplug it, plug it back in and run: dmesg
[09:15] <mahiti> thanks milamber deej1976
[09:16] <rabbi1> milamber: yeah done
[09:16] <PDSmedia> don't know how to access that.  is it....
[09:16] <PDSmedia> sudo gedit and then the path you gave?
[09:16] <flysnowchiu> 5 years desktop
[09:16] <usr13> PDSmedia: tail -n 20 /var/log/messages |pastebinit
[09:16] <milamber> rabbi1: does it say anything about the usb being connected? if you aren't sure you can pastebin it
[09:17] <mahiti> \q
[09:17] <usr13> PDSmedia: ... and send resulting URL
[09:17] <rabbi1> milamber: USB disconnect
[09:17] <rabbi1> address 1 to 18
[09:17] <conntrack> Now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time...
[09:17] <milamber> rabbi1: run: sudo fdisk -l
[09:18] <PDSmedia> error I get: "pastebinit not installed"
[09:18] <milamber> rabbi1: that will show all the available disks
[09:18] <Ascavasaion> If I change the CPU in my old machine from an AMD Duron 1300MHz to an AMD Athlon 2300MHz would I need to change kernels etc.?  Oh, and will the thing still work at all?
[09:19] <llutz_> Ascavasaion: should work like before
[09:19] <Ascavasaion> llutz: thank you.  You think the performace gain is worth the swapping of the processors?
[09:19] <llutz_> Ascavasaion: swap a snail into a snail.... no idea
[09:20] <PDSmedia> installed pastebinit. re-issued cmd and got this
[09:20] <Ascavasaion> llutz: hehe  Touchě
[09:20] <usr13> PDSmedia: tail -n 30 /var/log/syslog |pastebinit  #And again, send us resulting URL
[09:20] <_Neytiri_> Ascavasaion, if your current motherboard supports that processor it sould work
[09:20] <Ascavasaion> _Neytiri_: Thank you.
[09:20] <llutz_> Ascavasaion: it might be faster, but i don't know if you really remark that
[09:21] <usr13> PDSmedia: Send the URL
[09:21] <usr13> here
[09:22] <PDSmedia> http://pastebin.com/UST51FkP
[09:23] <PDSmedia> I look at the results myself and see USB disconnect.  do u k now what's causing that?
[09:23] <melle> Hi all, could anyone point me to some docs on how to create a bootable USB (from iso) in ubuntu? I keep getting PendriveLinux tutorials from google...
[09:24] <llutz_> melle: from 11.10 you can just use cat/dd to write the iso to usb-drive
[09:24] <usr13> PDSmedia: Well, we can see where you unplugged and plugged in the mouse adapter.  Not much info on it though, nothing telling us why it quit working. Or, at least I don't see it. Sorry.
[09:24] <melle> llutz_: I'm still on 10.10... time for an update :)
[09:25] <PDSmedia> I will reboot and see how long it takes the mouse to freeze
[09:25] <iceroot> PDSmedia: usb mouse and usb printer?
[09:26] <PDSmedia> wireless usb mouse and usb prrinter
[09:26] <iceroot> PDSmedia: some month ago i had a similar issue, the problem was that the usb-printer was taking to much power from the usb-system and all usb devices were disabled
[09:26] <llutz_> melle: why? 10.10 works fine and still gets updates
[09:26] <iceroot> melle: never touch a running system
[09:26] <melle> llutz_: About to get a new HD from dell... this one is failing...
[09:26] <melle> iceroot: that's the problem.. SMART status sais "hard drive failure is imminent"
[09:27] <melle> iceroot: backed up everything... just need a live usb
[09:27] <iceroot> melle: ah ok
[09:27] <usr13> PDSmedia: What does syslog say?  sudo tail -n20 /var/log/syslog
[09:27] <stephanmg> hello all.
[09:27] <iceroot> !usb | melle
[09:27] <rogerU> ?
[09:27] <melle> iceroot: thx!
[09:27] <PDSmedia> hold on...
[09:27] <stephanmg> what is that kworker thing in the new 3.0.0-13 generi
[09:28] <usr13> PDSmedia: Never mind.  As iceroot states, it is more-than-likely just a hardware issue.
[09:29] <rogerU> quit
[09:29] <usr13> PDSmedia: But you might try a different USB port
[09:29] <deej1976> rogerU: try backslash wc
[09:31] <sharpK> is it mandatory to share printer drivers through samba/cups with windows computers on a network or can a printer be added with the drivers only on the linux side?
[09:31] <PDSmedia> last entries in the log say that 'evolution-alarn-desktop-notify.desktop' could not execute
[09:32] <PDSmedia> I though I uninstalled evolution. do I need to install it now?
[09:33] <JLuc> ya zepto.js aussi
[09:34] <JLuc> ... qui ne supporte pas IE
[09:34] <PDSmedia> failed to execute child process "usr/lib/gnome-user-share/gnome-user-share  no such file or directory
[09:34] <JLuc> oups sorry
[09:35] <PDSmedia> usr13: what does that mean?
[09:38] <weiyang> on linux system could i set the max tcp window size ?
[09:38] <weiyang> i see the wmem and rmem
[09:38] <weiyang> but not find the window size parameter
[09:39] <iceroot> PDSmedia: dpkg -l gnome-user-share
[09:40] <iceroot> PDSmedia: its starting with ii?
[09:40] <mutante> got disconnected during dist-upgrade via ssh, dpkg process still running and waiting for user input. how can i get it into the foreground again
[09:41] <usr13> PDSmedia: Means that you have a problem with evolution, but other than that, I dono.  Try what iceroot suggests.
[09:41] <iceroot> mutante: you used "screen"?
[09:41] <mutante> iceroot: i should have, but no
[09:41] <iceroot> mutante: then you can only kill the process
[09:41] <mutante> iceroot: ok, was about to do that, but was worth a try before.thx
[09:41] <iceroot> mutante: after that use "sudo apt-get install -f" to fix it
[09:41] <mutante> alright
[09:42] <iceroot> mutante: yes, its always a good idea to use screen for that
[09:42] <_Neytiri_> where is the kernal located for 11.10
[09:43] <llutz_> _Neytiri_: /boot
[09:43] <_Neytiri_> which one is actually the kernal
[09:44] <iceroot> !info linux-image
[09:44] <llutz_> _Neytiri_: /boot/vmlinuz*
[09:44] <_Neytiri_> rt
[09:44] <_Neytiri_> ty
[09:46] <usr13> PDSmedia: Has the system been fully updated?
[09:46] <Pumpkin-> weiyang: sysctl for net.core.rmem_max and net.core.wmem_max look like what you want
[09:46] <usr13> PDSmedia: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:47] <weiyang> Pumpkin-, i search google, some says this is the window size, some says this is them socket memory
[09:48] <dssdsd> ssdds
[09:50] <MattC> Hi,  I'm having a problem logging into my linux OS.  It starts up fine until the log-in screen, then when I enter my password the screen flashes black and the log-in screen reappears.  Definitely using correct password.  I've tried Ctrl Alt F1 and logging in there, but when I return to the GUI it says it's logged in but still wants a password to unlock the screen, resulting in the same issue
[09:50] <PDSmedia> sorry usr13.  thought I lost you
[09:50] <MattC> Any help or direction to a more appropriate IRC channel (if there is one) would be much appreciated
[09:51] <sattu94> MattC: what Graphic environment are you using?
[09:51] <Pumpkin-> weiyang: kernel sources show it is window size (check net/ipv4/tcp_output.c). I'm 99% sure it is what you want.
[09:51] <Mooloo> assuming i want to move to ubuntu, what do i need to back up if my /home is a different partition?
[09:51] <MattC> gnome?
[09:52] <usr13> MattC: You either have wrong user or password.
[09:52] <MattC> definitely neither
[09:52] <MattC> as I logged in fien in the terminal
[09:52] <MattC> *fine
[09:52] <weiyang> wow, Pumpkin-  you are so nice
[09:52] <weiyang> :)
[09:53] <MattC> also, get a wrong password error if i use the wrong password/username
[09:53] <evgeniy_> Привет чувакам из Англии
[09:53] <usr13> MattC: Above you said that you are "having a problem logging into my linux OS" ?
[09:53] <MattC> yup?
[09:53] <MattC> ok, fine
[09:53] <tapo> Mooloo: every configuration options you need :) you should backup /etc
[09:53] <sattu94> MattC:are you sure it's Ubuntu?
[09:53] <MattC> well, it's mint
[09:54] <Mooloo> ok, i got /etc and /root. anything i'm forgetting?
[09:54] <sattu94> MattC: have you messed around with your Xsession files?
[09:54] <MattC> not to my knowlege
[09:54] <PDSmedia> iceroot's command. don't know what it means.  type off a separate machine so can't cut and paste
[09:54] <tapo> Mooloo: diod you install something in /opt? other partitions?`only you know
[09:54] <afidegnum> hello once again, hw do I enable crontab on ubuntu?
[09:55] <usr13> MattC: What you are describing is exactly what happens when wrong username or password is used, so that's about all I can make of it.
[09:55] <usr13> MattC: But you say you can log into a terminal session?
[09:55] <MattC> yes
[09:55] <Mooloo> ah yes, /opt has some stuff
[09:55] <usr13> MattC: Is that correct? You can log into a terminal session?
[09:56] <MattC> I can log in, but when i return to the screen with the GUI, it says it's logged in but wants my password to unlock the screen
[09:56] <Mooloo> only i know, except this installation is very old :) where else should i look?
[09:56] <MattC> which results in the same behaviour as before
[09:56] <usr13> MattC: Must be different user.  ls /home
[09:56] <MattC> there's only my user account on there
[09:56] <madm1ke_> MattC: that is normal, because you have an open terminal session now. did you check if the keyboard layout is correct?
[09:57] <MattC> no, but I'm now in windows
[09:57] <MattC> which won't make this any easier
[09:57] <usr13> MattC: Sure won't.  Pretty hard to fix a machine when you are working on another.
[09:57] <Badman> !xchat
[09:58] <Badman> How do i make xchat to display me time of post?
[09:58] <MattC> same machine, but yeah, ig et your point
[09:58] <MattC> I don't knwo hwo to get onto the IRC through the terminal
[09:58] <madm1ke_> MattC: try to login and then in terminal session have a look at /var/log/auth.log - that might give you some clues. or check in ~/.xsession-errors - maybe your x session crashed right after login
[09:59] <usr13> MattC: irssi
[09:59] <madm1ke_> MattC: sudo aptitude install irssi
[09:59] <dr_willis> irssi or weechat MattC
[09:59] <Mooloo> anyone else think of any directories that often contain user data and should be backed up besides /etc /root and /opt?
[09:59] <usr13> MattC: And then:  /server irc.freenode.net
[10:00] <usr13> MattC: or just follow on-screen instructions to get connected to a server.
[10:00] <madm1ke_> Mooloo: /home might contain some user data, too :)
[10:00] <MattC> thanks
[10:00] <Mooloo> yes, right sorry. but seperate partition
[10:00] <MattC> see you in a few if it works
[10:00] <usr13> Mooloo: /etc /root and /opt  do not contain user data
[10:00] <llutz_> Mooloo: parts of /var
[10:00] <Mooloo> what parts?
[10:01] <madm1ke_> user data in var?
[10:01] <mrec> since I upgraded to ubuntu 11.10 copy/paste doesn't work anymore with the 3 finger touchpad gesture, any idea how to restore that?
[10:01] <llutz_> Mooloo: depends, /var/www, /var/lib/mysql /var/mail
[10:01] <madm1ke_> Mooloo: define "user data"
[10:01] <dr_willis> clarify what you mean by  user data
[10:01] <dr_willis> :-)
[10:01] <Mooloo> anything i will lose if i wipe and reinstall
[10:01] <usr13> Mooloo: I think you have miss-stated your goal.  Try again.
[10:01] <usr13> Mooloo: /home
[10:02] <usr13> Mooloo: /home/Mooloo
[10:02] <dr_willis> you loose everything notbacked up. but onky the home dir should have your useres files in it
[10:02] <Badman> How do i make xchat to display time of a reply?
[10:03] <usr13> Mooloo: Copy to a thumb drive Documents/  Pictures/  Music/  etc.  or just the whole /home/Mooloo/  dir
[10:03] <johnm> Hello all. I wonder if anyone can answer what I presume to be a quick question. I have an upstart job with named instances, and I wanted to specify which named isntances to automatically start during init. Is this possible?
[10:03] <dr_willis> other stuff you edited  in the system dirs is not 'users data'
[10:03] <usr13> Mooloo: Is /home   on a separate partition?
[10:03] <Mooloo> yes
[10:04] <usr13> Mooloo: THen when you re-install, just do not format that partition, use it as /home and it will still be there.
[10:04] <usr13> Mooloo: Re-install using same user-name
[10:05] <dr_willis> Mooloo: back up any system files you have customized
[10:05] <Mooloo> i will, i just don't want to redo all etc changes, like fstab and such.
[10:05] <dr_willis> those are not 'user data'
[10:06] <Mooloo> what are they?
[10:06] <madm1ke_> system configuration files
[10:06] <dr_willis> ststem files
[10:06] <usr13> Mooloo: Not gonna happen.  You can save config files and ... well, I think we should ask you why are you re-installing in the first place?
[10:06] <usr13> Mooloo: So... Why are  you wanting to re-install?
[10:06] <Mooloo> because it's a debian install i did in 2005
[10:06] <Mooloo> which is a bit cruddy
[10:07] <Badman> How do i make xchat to display time of a reply?
[10:07] <usr13> cruddy and old.  So what is so special about the fstab and etc changes then?
[10:07] <Mooloo> i would have to redo them, and i dunno what else
[10:07] <madm1ke_> if you haven't installed any system daemons like mail/http/sql server and such it's probably easier to reinstall and reconfigure those couple of etc files again
[10:08] <Mooloo> yes maybe. but it will be too late after if not :)
[10:08] <usr13> Mooloo: What special mounting instructions did you have in /etc/fstab ?
[10:08] <Mooloo> anyway, /var tip was good
[10:08] <Mooloo> windows mounts and such
[10:08] <dr_willis> so you have been using debian since 2005....
[10:08] <madm1ke_> windows mounts?
[10:08] <Mooloo> yes, approximately
[10:08] <usr13> Mooloo: That stuff is pretty easy to replicate
[10:08] <ppxmjc> Hi, I was here as MattC a few minutes ago
[10:09] <ppxmjc> seem to have got irssi working
[10:09] <Mooloo> it serves as an example.
[10:09] <madm1ke_> ppxmjc: :)
[10:09] <usr13> ppxmjc: Well, hello again.
[10:09] <usr13> ppxmjc: So what is happening?
[10:09] <dr_willis> so... backup the cinfigs. dont expect to just relace the new fstab and such with the old files
[10:09] <madm1ke_> Mooloo: just backup everything except /dev/ , /sys/ and /proc and merge afterwards
[10:09] <deej1976> Mooloo: Why not tar up /etc and a backpu
[10:09] <ppxmjc> so having logged in on a terminal screen, teh screen with the GUI says I'm currently logged in, but wants to be unlocked
[10:10] <deej1976> Mooloo: as a backup*
[10:10] <ppxmjc> on doing do, the screen flashes black then returns to the password screen
[10:10] <Mooloo> it's 20 gigs. i was trying to get out of backing it all up, and i'm reasonably confident now i have :)
[10:10] <madm1ke_> ppxmjc: no it just says that there is an open session for your user
[10:10] <usr13> ppxmjc: The user name should unlock it.
[10:10] <deej1976> Mooloo: /etc is 20Gb ?
[10:10] <usr13> ppxmjc: The user's password is what I meant
[10:10] <Mooloo> no, / is
[10:10] <Mooloo> etc i have already
[10:10] <ppxmjc> should but doesn't
[10:10] <usr13> ppxmjc: So what does this screen look like?
[10:10] <ppxmjc> this is why i'm confused
[10:11] <madm1ke_> Mooloo: try sudo apt-get clean and see if that cleans something up
[10:11] <ppxmjc> normal mint log in screen
[10:11] <Mooloo> i do that after every update
[10:11] <usr13> ppxmjc: ls /home
[10:11] <ppxmjc> yep
[10:11] <madm1ke_> the use ncdu or baobab to see what takes up so much space
[10:11] <ppxmjc> contains ppxmjc, my home folder
[10:11] <usr13> ppxmjc: What is the user name?
[10:11] <Mooloo> i have /etc /root /opt /var/lib/mysql some stuff from /usr/bin and /home. i think i'm good. thanks guys :)
[10:11] <ppxmjc> ppxmjc
[10:12] <usr13> ppxmjc: That is all?
[10:12] <ppxmjc> yep
[10:12] <madm1ke_> Mooloo: oh i forgot, do NOT backup */bin/*
[10:12] <Mooloo> yes, some selected stuff only
[10:12] <madm1ke_> if you know what to do, okay
[10:13] <usr13> ppxmjc: So it boots to the normal gdm login screen?  Right?  Or is it not gdm?  Is it kdm?
[10:13] <usr13> ppxmjc: What window manager is it?
[10:13] <madm1ke_> ppxmjc: can you check the keyboard layout? for example when entering your username?
[10:13] <Mooloo> i'm checking ncdu
[10:13] <ppxmjc> keyboard layout is fine
[10:13] <ppxmjc> if i do the wrong password i get 'authentication failure'
[10:14] <ppxmjc> if gnome is my window manager that is what it is
[10:14] <madm1ke_> ppxmjc: look at "less .xsession-errors"
[10:14] <usr13> ppxmjc:  ps a |grep gdm
[10:14] <ppxmjc> (as in it's runnign on gnome i believe, and i think taht's what you're asking!)
[10:14] <fornix> hey guys in gnome, i remember we could change all styles like window style, button styles, In this unity enabled ubuntu 11.10, i can only change background and 2-3 pre defined themes.
[10:15] <ppxmjc> syntax error unterminated quoted string?
[10:15] <dr_willis> fornix:  its not as tweakable.. yet.  see the  gnome-tweak tool in the repos
[10:16] <usr13> ppxmjc: Is that from .xsession-errors ?
[10:16] <usr13> tail .xsession-errors
[10:16] <ppxmjc> and ps a |grep gdm returns some stuff, what am i looking for?
[10:16] <usr13> ppxmjc: Just that gdm is running and it is your window manager
[10:17] <ppxmjc> tail returns teh same
[10:17] <ppxmjc> is gdm gnome desktop manager? just out of interest
[10:17] <Mooloo> baobab is pretty cool
[10:17] <auronandace> usr13: gdm is gnome display manager, it is a login manager (not a window manager)
[10:18] <Badman>  How do i make xchat to display time of a reply?
[10:18] <madm1ke_> ppxmjc: yes it is
[10:18] <Mooloo> anyway, i'm trying to do the usb stick install mode, and it only has a section for ubuntu linux. is there a general way?
[10:18] <sharpK> anyone have experience sharing a printer from Ubuntu (through Samba) with windows clients?
[10:19] <usr13> ppxmjc: Do you see the normal stuff in the home directory?  ls ~/
[10:19] <ppxmjc> usr13: yes, all present and correct as far as i can see
[10:19] <usr13> auronandace: Oh yea. login manager  not window manager
[10:20] <usr13> ppxmjc: df
[10:20] <madm1ke_> Mooloo: try unetbootin
[10:20] <usr13> df |pastebinit
[10:20] <Mooloo> in xchat go to settings preferences, then Text box, enable timestamps, and put this text: "[%H:%M:%S]"
[10:20] <ppxmjc> shows filesystem /dev/sda5 and a load of stats about it
[10:21] <Mooloo> ah, thx
[10:21] <ppxmjc> and a few under 'none'
[10:21] <usr13> ppxmjc: df -i
[10:21] <usr13> ppxmjc: What percentage of being full?
[10:21] <usr13> or free
[10:21] <ppxmjc> got to install pastebinit
[10:21] <ppxmjc> one sec
[10:21] <ppxmjc> 5% use it says
[10:21] <usr13> ppxmjc: use%
[10:22] <usr13> ppxmjc: Which one?
[10:22] <ppxmjc> the /dev/sda5
[10:22] <usr13> ppxmjc: Any of the partitions full?  What about   df -i
[10:22] <ppxmjc> the rest have 1% each
[10:23] <Korlanthius> Well I remember fixing this issue before, but the forum page isn't loading now -
[10:23] <madm1ke_> pasteinit is awesome. it just realized :)
[10:23] <Korlanthius> I don't have sound
[10:23] <Korlanthius> annnndd
[10:23] <usr13> df |pastebinit
[10:23] <ppxmjc> iuse 2%
[10:23] <madm1ke_> ppxmjc: pastebinit < .xsession-errors
[10:23] <ppxmjc> f3SUfwAd
[10:23] <ppxmjc> for df
[10:24] <Korlanthius> I don't have sound with - ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 AC'97 Audio Controller
[10:24] <ppxmjc> hytWCWZ6
[10:24] <ppxmjc> for xsessions-errors
[10:24] <usr13> ppxmjc: what is the first part of the URL?
[10:25] <Korlanthius> I remember having to do modprobe.d blacklisting.. in 10.04, but I'm on 11.10 and I don't remember what I had to blacklist
[10:25] <ppxmjc> http://passtebin.com/
[10:25] <ppxmjc> *http://pastebin.com/
[10:25] <madm1ke_> ppxmjc: line 29 in your .profile is broken
[10:26] <Mooloo> what are the drawbacks of doing netinst instead of grabbing the whole iso?
[10:26] <ppxmjc> I see
[10:26] <theadmin> Mooloo: None really, except you might end up having no network drivers when you boot the net install
[10:26] <ppxmjc> now what on earth did i do there
[10:26] <madm1ke_> Mooloo: you will need internet access when installing :)
[10:26] <ppxmjc> unless
[10:26] <ppxmjc> hm
[10:26] <Mooloo> ok
[10:27] <deej1976> Mooloo: Depending on connection slower
[10:27] <ppxmjc> last thing i did in a .file was trying to add something to the path, i don't know why i'd have been in /profile but you never know
[10:27] <ppxmjc> usually .bashrc
[10:27] <ppxmjc> how do i go about opening/editing this in the terminal?
[10:28] <madm1ke_> nano .profile
[10:28] <ppxmjc> ta
[10:28] <madm1ke_> then ctrl-<letter> to save/quit/whatever
[10:29] <ppxmjc> excellent
[10:29] <ppxmjc> thanks for the help guys
[10:29] <madm1ke_> have fun
[10:29] <diogo_> join #webdetails
[10:30] <theadmin> Mooloo: Do you mind if I pm you? I'd like to ask something but it's rather offtopic
[10:30] <usr13> madm1ke_: I guess we should have asked him when / why it all started.
[10:31] <Korlanthius> ... Nevermind my problem I figured it out it was snd-atiixp-modem
[10:31] <ppxmjc> while i'm here...how do I exit the IRC client in teh terminal, just ctrl C ?
[10:31] <Yanch0> how can i check if i have nvidia or opensource drivers active for my card?
[10:31] <usr13> ppxmjc: /exit
[10:31] <ppxmjc> thanks
[10:32] <auronandace> Yanch0: lsmod
[10:32] <auronandace> Yanch0: check the list
[10:33] <Yanch0> nvidia               7098131  24 .. so i guess its invidia then :)
[10:33] <auronandace> Yanch0: yup
[10:33] <akusharil> kl
[10:34] <usr13> Yanch0: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:34] <usr13> Yanch0: grep nvidia /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:34] <Yanch0> usr13, nothing came out
[10:35] <Chosi> nvidia-xconfig
[10:35] <usr13> Yanch0: So you have the nvidia driver installed, but it is not being used.
[10:35] <usr13> Yanch0: Yes... as Chosi says...
[10:35] <Yanch0> can it be done on ssh or i have to do it on console?
[10:35] <madm1ke_> Yanch0: grep "Creating default Display" /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:35] <usr13> Yanch0: I dono, try and see
[10:35] <madm1ke_> Yanch0: maybe this will print something useful
[10:35] <Chosi> ssh is fine. since it's writing a new xorg.conf
[10:36] <Yanch0> [    44.640] (II) NVIDIA(0): Creating default Display subsection in Screen section
[10:36] <madm1ke_> nvidia binary driver it is
[10:37] <Yanch0> http://pastebin.com/DfzQWAN1 Chosi
[10:37] <usr13> Yanch0: So try it and see.
[10:38] <usr13> Yanch0: restart gdm
[10:38] <usr13> or start gdm
[10:38] <Yanch0> its xubuntu so i guess xdm?
[10:38] <usr13> I guess....
[10:39] <theadmin> Yanch0: No, xubuntu uses gdm
[10:39] <auronandace> Yanch0: depends, if 10.04 or under its gdm, if 11.10 its lightdm
[10:39] <usr13> yea just gdm
[10:39] <madm1ke_> what is wrong with the shipped binary drivers , Yanch0 ?
[10:39] <auronandace> *11.04 and under
[10:39] <usr13> madm1ke_: Good question...
[10:40] <Yanch0> no tv-out
[10:40] <rgb247> I have a problem with dual-boot with ubuntu-windows
[10:40] <madm1ke_> i see
[10:40] <Yanch0> sudo service lightdm restart - i did that .. but now the monitor is off
[10:40] <usr13> rgb247: Can  you be more specific?
[10:40] <Mooloo> thanks guys, bye
[10:40] <rgb247> first, I've installed ubuntu, after windows
[10:40] <rgb247> when I installed windows, Grub bootloader was gone
[10:40] <usr13> Yanch0: nvidia is broken or miss-configured
[10:41] <rgb247> I've reinstalled Grub bootloader with a ubuntu live cd, but now, windows boot loader was gone
[10:41] <usr13> Yanch0: Ctrl-Alt-F7
[10:41] <auronandace> !grub | rgb247
[10:41] <usr13> Yanch0: or  Ctrl-Alt-F8
[10:41] <rgb247> after, with a windows cd I've fixed windows loader, but now, Grub has gone again..
[10:41] <keepguessing> Hi I have installed a new ubuntu 11.10 and From a windows machine I connected to the [NoMachine client] ubuntu desktop. But damn I cannot see and or do anything I only see a black screen any suggestions?
[10:42] <madm1ke_> Yanch0: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors
[10:42] <usr13> Yanch0: Nothing...?   rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf  and you'll be back on nv
[10:42] <rgb247> is there any way to insert windows loader in Grub? or even can start ubuntu with a boot cd or something like..
[10:42] <usr13> ... the OS driver
[10:42] <rgb247> usr13: I know how to restore grub2
[10:42] <rgb247> but when I restore it, I can't start windows anymore
[10:43] <usr13> rgb247: grub-setup
[10:43] <madm1ke_> rgb247: it's called chainloading. grub is able to start another bootloader (your windows loader) just fine
[10:43] <Yanch0> madm1ke_, shall i paste the whol Xorg.0.log ?
[10:43] <madm1ke_> Yanch0: go ahead
[10:43] <madm1ke_> not here!
[10:43] <usr13> Yanch0: tail -n20 /etc/X11/xorg.conf |pastebinit
[10:44] <usr13> Yanch0: tail -n20 /var/log/Xorg.0.log |pastebinit
[10:44] <Yanch0> hahah @ pastebinit! seems cool tool
[10:44] <usr13> Sorry first was typo
[10:45] <Yanch0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/753514/
[10:45] <keepguessing> No help anyone ?
[10:46] <usr13> Yanch0: pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:46] <Yanch0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/753515/
[10:47] <Yanch0> the gpu is fx 5600 - with a vga and dvi and an s-video
[10:47] <rgb247> I'm sorry I was disconected
[10:47] <rgb247> I didn't receivered latest messages
[10:47] <usr13> Yanch0: don't see fatal errors or anything.  What do you have on tty7 or tty8 ?
[10:47] <madm1ke_> Yanch0: please paste the whole Xorg.0.log
[10:48] <rgb247> so, usr13, I need to reinstall Grub2 again and after I need to run grub-setup in terminal ?
 rgb247: it's called chainloading. grub is able to start another bootloader (your windows loader) just fine
[10:48] <usr13> madm1ke_: Yanch0 Yea, maybe we are not seeing the errors
[10:48] <usr13> Yanch0: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:48] <rgb247> auronadance: and why my grub didn't start windows bootloader?
[10:48] <Yanch0> im doing that from ssh
[10:48] <rgb247> aurodance: I need to run grub-setup ?
[10:49] <Yanch0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/753517/
[10:49] <auronandace> !tab | rgb247
[10:49] <madm1ke_> rgb247: usually "update-grub" detects windows partitions and adds an entry
[10:49] <usr13> Yanch0: How do you know you don't have a GUI screen if you are doing all this from ssh?
[10:49] <Yanch0> the other monitor is next to me
[10:50] <auronandace> rgb247: update-grub has always detected my windows install just fine
[10:50] <rgb247> madm1ke_: thanks you, I will do that now, thanks for help
[10:50] <rgb247> thanks
[10:50] <madm1ke_> Yanch0: the log looks fine. did you try turning it off and on again? :)
[10:50] <dijonyummy> smartctl seems to show lots of pre-failures on my HDs but ubuntu Disk Utility doesn't much any problem. so what should i do?
[10:50] <Yanch0> off and on again as in reboot ?
[10:50] <usr13> Yanch0: lspci |grep -i vga
[10:50] <madm1ke_> reboot, off/on the monitor, check for another monitor source..
[10:51] <Anomie211> I'm trying to install build-essential on a computer that has no internet connection. Someone yesterday told me the Ubuntu DVD might have it on it? I have that downloaded and burned now. How do I check if it's on the disk? I've tried just using the 'search' button to find it, but no joy?
[10:51] <usr13> Yanch0: What is the display adapter?
[10:51] <Yanch0> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV31 [GeForce FX 5600] (rev a1)
[10:51] <usr13> Yanch0: Ok, reboot and see what happens
[10:51] <Yanch0> fingers crossed :D
[10:52] <Yanch0> bios .. garbled lines .. then monitor off
[10:53] <madm1ke_> Yanch0: wait a minute. you said tv-out right?
[10:53] <Yanch0> but till now im testing over vga
[10:53] <madm1ke_> okay
[10:53] <madm1ke_> because tvout will need more tweaks in xorg.conf i think
[10:53] <usr13> Yanch0: Could it be a hardware issue?
[10:53] <deej1976> Anomie211: build-essential is a meta-package for a group off packages to compile applications like gcc,make,autoconf
[10:54] <deej1976> !info build-essential
[10:54] <bluenemo> how can i set nautlius to --no-desktop permanently? i tried aliasing it, using gconftool but it doesnt work.. every time i start up nautilus it begins to manage the desktop again.. is there some config file for it which i can edit?
[10:54] <madm1ke_> dijonyummy: the pre-failure is just a category name
[10:54] <Yanch0> with opensrouce drivers it was all ok
[10:54] <usr13> Yanch0: Does the FX 5600 card have a fan on it?
[10:54] <Yanch0> yes
[10:54] <madm1ke_> dijonyummy: unless the value of those parameters (inside the pre-fail category) indicate a problem you are just fine
[10:54] <usr13> Yanch0: So what was wrong with the opensource drivers?
[10:54] <Yanch0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/753521/ Xorg.0.log
[10:55] <Yanch0> usr13, tv-out
[10:55] <madm1ke_> crt monitor?
[10:55] <usr13> Yanch0: Looks same as last time.
[10:56] <Anomie211> deej1976: Yeah I'm aware, I'm trying to download the full packages so I can load them to my PC without an internet connection
[10:56] <Yanch0> yes madm1ke_ i have this old crt monitor which im building this linuxtv upon, then once its fine, i replace vga with tvout
[10:56] <Anomie211> deej1976: But all I can find are the meta-packages
[10:56] <usr13> Yanch0: tv-out ?    What kind of monitor is it?
[10:56] <madm1ke_> Yanch0: well maybe there is a problem with the refresh rates. you can configure this i xorg.conf but i don't know how exactly
[10:57] <usr13> Yanch0: Using a VGA cable?  Plugged into correct port?
[10:57] <dijonyummy> so is pre-failure normal? i mean is there a more positive category such as 'normal'?
[10:57] <Yanch0> no no im currently building the system using a crt monitor plugged in to the VGA port. then once all is fine, i move the computer to connect it to a TV using S-Video connection
[10:57] <usr13> Yanch0: Does the  motherboard have onboard vga?
[10:57] <Yanch0> yes usr13
[10:58] <Yanch0> but its disabled at bios i guess
[10:58] <usr13> Anything coming from the onboard port?
[10:59] <madm1ke_> dijonyummy: your hard drive reports the values of some parameters. those values can be good or bad (actually a number between 0 and 255) - if some parameter has a bad value (below a certain threshold) THEN you can look at the category of this value and see if it indicates a) old age or b) pre-failure
[10:59] <usr13> Yanch0: Are you, by chance, building mythtv?
[10:59] <Yanch0> usr13, nothing is coming from onboard / yes
[10:59] <madm1ke_> dijonyummy: for example, power-on-hours may have a bad value (below a threshold) because it has been running for 10 years without a stop. still that is an indication of old-age and not pre-fail - therefore it is categorized as old-age
[11:00] <dijonyummy> i see, so pre-fail is not normal? for its category or is it?
[11:01] <usr13> Yanch0: Try nvidia-settings
[11:01] <madm1ke_> dijonyummy: it is just a category. if a value in this category is bad (raw value below threshold) then it is not normal
[11:01] <Yanch0> should i leave the monitor connected to onboard vga? or back to the fx5600?
[11:01] <dijonyummy> i see now thanks!
[11:02] <usr13> Yanch0: Yea, leave the monitor connected
[11:02] <usr13> Yanch0: connect to the FX 5600
[11:02] <Yanch0> but to which port? the onboard's vga or the fx?
[11:02] <Yanch0> k
[11:03] <Yanch0> any parameters to put ?
[11:04] <usr13> Yanch0: http://www.nvidia.com/docs/IO/40049/NVQFX3800-4800-5800SDI_UG_v20.pdf
[11:05] <Yanch0> its not quadro fx - but geeforce fx
[11:06] <madm1ke_> Yanch0: does your monitor report refresh rates via the osd ?
[11:06] <Yanch0> lemme see .. its one of those old crt junk monitors
[11:07] <madm1ke_> do you have tft lying around? the would reduce the problem space :)
[11:07] <usr13> Yanch0: ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/README/chapter-05.html
[11:08] <usr13> Yanch0: Try a different (maybe newer) monitor.
[11:08] <madm1ke_> *laying around i guess..
[11:08] <Wiz_KeeD> is there a command to unzip a .zip file and to overwrite without asking?
[11:08] <usr13> Yanch0: Or tv-out
[11:08] <madm1ke_> Wiz_KeeD: unzip -h
[11:08] <madm1ke_> Wiz_KeeD: it will tell you:   -o  overwrite files WITHOUT prompting
[11:09] <Yanch0> lemme try with my own tft
[11:09] <Wiz_KeeD> so it's -h or -o?
[11:09] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: unzip -o archvie.zip
[11:09] <madm1ke_> Wiz_KeeD: -h is for "help"
[11:09] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: -h or --help is for help, also see "man unzip"
[11:09] <madm1ke_> Wiz_KeeD: most programs implement this switch so you can get a brief usage description
[11:09] <Wiz_KeeD> yes yes
[11:09] <Wiz_KeeD> thank you madm1ke_ and theadmin, much apreachiated!
[11:10] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: No problem.
[11:10] <Wiz_KeeD> <3
[11:10] <Fossilet> i am configuring the scale plugin of compiz
[11:10] <theadmin> Fossilet: Good luck xD
[11:10] <Fossilet> can i not specify a button for window corner ?
[11:10] <Yancho_> sry but i unplugged the  network cable :o)
[11:11] <Fossilet> i never noticed you have to use a mouse button for that before....
[11:11] <Yancho_> ok now i have a tft on it .. no luck yet .. still off
[11:11] <madm1ke_> weird
[11:11] <Fossilet> before i just just move the mouse cursor
[11:11] <madm1ke_> Yanch0: restarted X ?
[11:12] <Yancho_> bah! idiot me
[11:12] <Yancho_> yes now i got the screen fine
[11:13] <madm1ke_> okay, so the driver is working but you will need to tweak xorg.conf to match your crt monitor
[11:13] <Fossilet> ??
[11:13] <Yancho_> thats good news :)
[11:13] <madm1ke_> Yanch0: basically you can start configuring the tvout now
[11:14] <rgb247> I'm back, I've restored my Grub2, I've ran update-grub, but grub didn't find the windows boot load, what I need to do now?
[11:15] <theadmin> rgb247: You can add it manually.
[11:15] <rgb247> theadmin: can you exlpain me how? I've read something but I can't find /boot/grub/menu.lst to add it manually
[11:16] <Yancho_> was it out of resolution? or bad refresh rate?
[11:16] <theadmin> rgb247: That's for grub2
[11:16] <theadmin> rgb247: Err, grub1
[11:16] <rgb247> theadmin: and for grub2?
[11:16] <madm1ke_> Yancho_: something like that i guess
[11:16] <theadmin> rgb247: With grub2 the entries are in /etc/grub.d/
[11:17] <madm1ke_> Yancho_: maybe auto-detecting the refresh rates didn't work because the crt is too old
[11:17] <Yancho_> ow ic - that makes proper sense
[11:18] <Yancho_> is that xorg config domain then?
[11:18] <madm1ke_> rgb247: is "sudo os-prober" finding anything?
[11:18] <madm1ke_> Yancho_: yes. Monitor-Section horizontal and vertical refresh rates - but that's still just a guess
[11:18] <rgb247> madm1ke_: acannot access /mnt/boot - no such file or directory
[11:19] <madm1ke_> no more?
[11:19] <VictorCL> if I am on the terminal , how can I navigate back to a path I was ?
[11:19] <iceroot> VictorCL: cd -
[11:19] <iceroot> VictorCL: to do to the last path you used
[11:19] <VictorCL> cool
[11:19] <VictorCL> thanks
[11:19] <theadmin> VictorCL: cd .. to go one level up
[11:20] <iceroot> VictorCL: there are also functions for zsh (and bash also) where you can have something like "cd - TAB" to see the last 10 used dirs
[11:20] <VictorCL> ls
[11:20] <madm1ke_> VictorCL: you can use a directory stack with "pushd" and "popd"
[11:20] <UnrealPancake> Hello, I came here about 2 days ago asking if It was possible to boot into Kubuntu with My already dual booted Win7 and Ubuntu. Kubuntu is not working. Help?
[11:21] <Yancho_> is it normal in the Nvidia X server settings , on x server display configuration tab you get : unable to load x server display configuration page - Failed to query NoScanout for screen 0 ?
[11:21] <madm1ke_> rgb247: what the hell is in /mnt/boot ?
[11:21] <madm1ke_> Yancho_: *shrug*
[11:21] <rgb247> madm1ke_: I think it's a mounted drive, how can I unmount something from /mnt
[11:22] <madm1ke_> rgb247: sudo umount /mnt/boot
[11:22] <madm1ke_> rgb247: or sudo umount /mnt/ - check "mount" for this
[11:22] <UnrealPancake> ?
[11:22] <madm1ke_> UnrealPancake: if you already have ubuntu you can just add the kde-desktop
[11:22] <UnrealPancake> yeah I tried
[11:22] <UnrealPancake> it doesnt wrok
[11:22] <rgb247> madm1ke_: unmount doesnt work: no command 'unmount' found,
[11:23] <UnrealPancake> work
[11:23] <tonyyarusso> madm1ke_: I suspect that rgb247 either still is in a Live CD session, or passed a strange argument when he was.  He mentioned having to "recover" grub, which would have involved mounting the local system like that within a live environment.
[11:23] <UnrealPancake> and I dont get a choice to choose which to boot into
[11:23] <madm1ke_> rgb247: skip the letter "n" - it's umount
[11:23] <UnrealPancake> It loads looking like Kubuntu but just loads Ubuntu
[11:23] <sattu94> UnrealPancake: So you installed kubuntu-desktop.
[11:23] <DemonWitch> hey should i run virtualbox with sudo?
[11:23] <UnrealPancake> sattu94: yeah
[11:24] <sattu94> UnrealPancake: and how are you starting kubuntu now?
[11:24] <madm1ke_> UnrealPancake: and upgraded the splash screen to look kunbutu-ish
[11:24] <UnrealPancake> sattu94: it doesnt
[11:24] <sattu94> UnrealPancake: How do you know it isnt?
[11:24] <rgb247> madm1ke_: I've made a mystake with tipying umount
[11:25] <UnrealPancake> sattu94: it goes to the bootloader, I choose Ubuntu. It looks like Kubuntu, says Kubuntu, but when I login, the screen goes black and loads Ubuntu and logs me into Ubuntu
[11:25] <sattu94> UnrealPancake: Right.
[11:25] <KrisDouglas> UnrealPancake, this is because the session default is Ubuntu
[11:25] <rgb247> tonyyarusso: I'm not at live cd :)
[11:25] <sattu94> UnrealPancake: select kubuntu as your session
[11:25] <sattu94> UnrealPancake: Before entering your password.
[11:25] <UnrealPancake> sattu94: I have no option to choose
[11:25] <madm1ke_> rgb247: did you umount /mnt/boot now? run "sudo os-prober" again
[11:25] <KrisDouglas> UnrealPancake, logout from top right
[11:26] <sattu94> UnrealPancake: at the login screen.
[11:26] <rgb247> madm1ke_: cannot access /var/lib/os-prober/mount/boot
[11:26] <sattu94> UnrealPancake: log out to get to the login screen.
[11:26] <KrisDouglas> UnrealPancake, then click the cog icon next to your username, and select KDE/Kubuntu
[11:26] <Yancho_> madm1ke_, so i guess no ?
[11:26] <UnrealPancake> KrisDouglas: im loaded as Win7 because in the Ubuntu load, my internet is extremely slow
[11:26] <theadmin> UnrealPancake: Did you try disabling ipv6?
[11:27] <KrisDouglas> UnrealPancake, have you installed your graphics driver?
[11:27] <UnrealPancake> no idea
[11:27] <UnrealPancake> to both of you
[11:27] <KrisDouglas> Okiedokes.
[11:27] <madm1ke_> Yancho_: don't know. hit google with this
[11:27] <KrisDouglas> UnrealPancake, do you know what computer you have? (i.e model?)
[11:28] <UnrealPancake> Asus U46E
[11:28] <Gentoo64> DemonWitch: no, add your user to vboxusers group
[11:28] <UnrealPancake> 8 GB RAM 750 GB HDD 2.3 GHz
[11:29] <UnrealPancake> should be able to run it with no problem
[11:29] <rgb247> madm1ke_: can you help me please?
[11:29] <DemonWitch> Gentoo64: how can i check if my user is already in there?
[11:29] <Gentoo64> DemonWitch: as user, type group in terminal
[11:29] <theadmin> Gentoo64: You mean "groups"
[11:29] <Gentoo64> yeah
[11:30] <Gentoo64> :)
[11:30] <madm1ke_> rgb247: have a look at this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9922017&postcount=5
[11:30] <DemonWitch> Gentoo64: i am not in that group
[11:30] <madm1ke_> rgb247: it may help
[11:30] <DemonWitch> how do i add myself?
[11:30] <Gentoo64> DemonWitch: cat /etc/group and see if the vboxusers group exists
[11:30] <madm1ke_> sudo usermod -a -G groupname username
[11:31] <Unrea1pancake> Im on my phone as well
[11:31] <Gentoo64> theadmin: not seen you on in a while
[11:31] <theadmin> Gentoo64: Could be
[11:31] <UnrealPancake> if you need me to turn off my comp
[11:31] <DemonWitch> Gentoo64: it exists
[11:31] <DETERMINOLOGY> Does anyone know a fix for display to get 1080p working properly..Im useing intel HD graphics 3000 that comes with the intel i5 2500k processor
[11:31] <DemonWitch> i am just not in
[11:31] <KrisDouglas> funny, UnrealPancake, your graphics are Intel, so you shouldn't have a problem with the graphics
[11:31] <Gentoo64> DemonWitch: do what madm1ke_ said
[11:31] <Yanch0> madm1ke_, now i changed the vga plugs and its goodon the old stuffed monitor
[11:31] <UnrealPancake> KrisDouglas: I dont think its a problem with the graphics.
[11:31] <KrisDouglas> DETERMINOLOGY, I doubt that pretty poor intel hardware will be able to cope.
[11:31] <Gentoo64> DemonWitch: youll have to log in / out for tyhe changes to take effect
[11:32] <madm1ke_> UnrealPancake: do you see a list of sessions to chose from when you are at your login screen ?
[11:32] <UnrealPancake> I think its the actual OS itself
[11:32] <UnrealPancake> ummm
[11:32] <UnrealPancake> idk give me a sec to boot into linux
[11:32] <KrisDouglas> UnrealPancake, very peculiar. It should be blazing.
[11:32] <Unrea1pancake> Im on my phone
[11:32] <scarleo> Hi, I need to boot FreeDOS with Grub2, Im on 11.10. Does anyone know any good guides for how to do it or maybe can help me get the grub entry right??
[11:32] <rgb247> madm1ke_: Thanks you very much, it worked!
[11:32] <madm1ke_> rgb247: nice :)
[11:33] <Yanch0> next problem is installing : SAA7134  chip.. lets see
[11:33] <Unrea1pancake> Loading Ubuntu ...
[11:33] <madm1ke_> Yanch0: tv is overrated..
[11:33] <DemonWitch> Gentoo64: i run that command and now i run groups. i cant find vboxusers
[11:34] <DETERMINOLOGY> Oh, Ok ima still keep it on here as a dual boot option untill i get another gpu for the pc then i guess..
[11:34] <madm1ke_> DemonWitch: you might have to logout/login
[11:34] <Unrea1pancake> madm1ke_ nope
[11:34] <DemonWitch> kk
[11:34] <DemonWitch> brb
[11:34] <madm1ke_> Unrea1pancake: not even Ubuntu Classic? Ubuntu 2d? gnome failsafe or something like this?
[11:35] <Unrea1pancake> I can try to take a screen shot and upload it
[11:35] <madm1ke_> Unrea1pancake: have a look at /usr/share/xsessions/
[11:35] <Unrea1pancake> I can try to take a screen shot and upload it
[11:35] <madm1ke_> upload the content of this directory
[11:35] <madm1ke_> ls /usr/share/xsessions | pastebinit
[11:36] <VictorCL> what does this means = (CRON) info (No MTA installed, discarding output)
[11:36] <crizzy> MTA = mail transfer agent
[11:37] <VictorCL> ok
[11:37] <crizzy> so, it's basically saying it can't mail something
[11:37] <Gentoo64> ignore it
[11:37] <madm1ke_> usually it ends up in a file in /var/mail or /var/spool/mail
[11:37] <Gentoo64> yeah it runs on a lot if distros by default
[11:38] <Unrea1pancake> Is There a way you can remotely view my computer
[11:39] <Gentoo64> Unrea1pancake: do you want someone to? or are you paranoid someone can?
[11:39] <Unrea1pancake> I want someone to
[11:40] <Gentoo64> Unrea1pancake: what problem are you having? i havent been following
[11:40] <madm1ke_> kubuntu-session may not be available on login screen
[11:40] <Unrea1pancake> Kubuntu wont load. It shows a kubuntu login but loads Ubuntu
[11:41] <Gentoo64> ah weird
[11:41] <madm1ke_> Unrea1pancake: have you checked the content of the directory /usr/share/xsessions/ ?
[11:41] <Unrea1pancake> Yeah :/
[11:41] <Gentoo64> tried uninstalling / reinstalling the kubuntu package?
[11:41] <Unrea1pancake> No
[11:42] <Unrea1pancake> Idk how. That's why I was asking about somebody remotely viewing my computer
[11:42] <Unrea1pancake> No
[11:42] <Unrea1pancake> Idk how
[11:44] <alfredios> :D Found a site about Tux http://anontux.org
[11:45] <alfredios> tux is really everywhere :P
[11:45] <madm1ke_> Unrea1pancake: you should play around with your ubuntu a little. otherwise it's hard to help
[11:45] <Unrea1pancake> Thats the thing
[11:45] <madm1ke_> Unrea1pancake: for instance, find the file manager and look around your file system
[11:45] <unrealpancake> Is there a way that somebody could possibly remotely view my computer to try and figure out this isssue? I am willing to download Teamviewer as well
[11:45] <unrealpancake> unless Ubuntu has its own way...
[11:45] <unrealpancake> madm1ke_: my friend uses ubuntu
[11:46] <unrealpancake> he reccomended I use Kubuntu
[11:46] <theadmin> unrealpancake: We do, but it's not as comfortable, TeamViewer is one of the best ways around
[11:46] <unrealpancake> im new to all this stuff
[11:46] <unrealpancake> theadmin: i agree with you
[11:47] <alfredios> http://anontux.org http://anontux.org http://anontux.org http://anontux.org http://anontux.org http://anontux.org http://anontux.org http://anontux.org http://anontux.org http://anontux.org http://anontux.org http://anontux.org http://anontux.org http://anontux.org http://anontux.org http://anontux.org http://anontux.org http://anontux.org http://anontux.org http://anontux.org http://anontux.org http://anontux.org http://anontux.or
[11:47] <unrealpancake> ummm wow?
[11:48] <madm1ke_> moron spammer
[11:49] <Gentoo64> i had to click the link
[11:49] <Gentoo64> lol
[11:49] <alecjw> hi, when i try to kill gnome-power-manager in lucid, my gnome session locks up. how can i avoid this?
[11:49] <JadedJacob> I'm using GRUB 1.99 rc1-13 ubuntu3, wanting to setup Vista (*cringe*) as my default OS
[11:50] <Fever> 7quit
[11:50] <auronandace> JadedJacob: the file you want to edit is /etc/default/grub
[11:51] <oCean> alfredios: don't do that again
[11:51] <madm1ke_> alecjw: obvious way: don't kill gnome-power-manager :)
[11:52] <JadedJacob> auronandace: thanks, so I make the changes and then run 'sudo update-grub' ?
[11:53] <auronandace> JadedJacob: yes
[11:54] <alecjw> madm1ke_: it standbys my computer whenever i plug in or remove the AC power. upower is a mess
[11:56] <JadedJacob> So I just change the "grub_default" value, from 0 to what ever index number Vista is ?
[11:56] <auronandace> JadedJacob: you got it
[11:56] <JadedJacob> sweet/
[11:56] <JadedJacob> Also, have you got any ideas why my laptop isn't waking from suspend?
[11:56] <madm1ke_> alecjw: this sounds like broken acpi  - do you get sleep/suspend events with "sudo acpi_listen" when you plug the cable?
[11:56] <JadedJacob> GFX drivers right?
[11:56] <JadedJacob> (ubuntu I'm talking about)
[11:57] <madm1ke_> alecjw: then you might be able to override/remove the suspend handlers that are firing
[11:57] <VictorCL> ok I have a cronjob that ejecutes a .sh  ,  on the sh is   wget  url -0  log.txt
[11:57] <dr_willis> JadedJacob:  or you can renumber the files in /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober to be 09_os-prober so windows is always at the front.
[11:57] <auronandace> JadedJacob: i've never used suspend or hibernate so i wouldn't know
[11:58] <VictorCL> but is not creating the log.txt    ,   with the cron I get   (CRON) info (No MTA installed, discarding output)
[11:58] <VictorCL> is becaus there is not MTA .. it will not create any output ,, even inside the .sh file?
[11:58] <madm1ke_> VictorCL: -O not -0
[11:58] <VictorCL> yeah -0
[11:58] <madm1ke_> you need -O (big letter o for output)
[11:59] <VictorCL> yesh I have uppercase o
[11:59] <VictorCL> O
[11:59] <alecjw> madm1ke_: nope, nothing. i think its upower wrongly reporting remaining battery life: it goes to about 2 minutes when i unplug/plug in the power
[11:59] <VictorCL> cause if I execute the .sh from the terminal , it will create  log.txt
[11:59] <alecjw> this happens on every laptop ive ever used which is why i tend to avoid gnome
[11:59] <alecjw> it seems to be inseparable from upower
[11:59] <VictorCL> if I call the .sh directly it creates ouput .. from the crontab it wont
[12:00] <VictorCL> I think is because there is not MTA installed
[12:00] <unrealpancake> sattu94: madm1ke_ Gentoo64 KrisDouglas: I am installing Teamviewer. would any of you like to try and see what the problem is?
[12:00] <Gentoo64> unrealpancake: well i dont have it..
[12:00] <madm1ke_> alecjw: in gconf-editor you can set the gnome action "nothing" for critical battery events
[12:00] <madm1ke_> alecjw: the gui won't let you set this
[12:01] <madm1ke_> VictorCL: the mta will just report what was send to stdout from the cronjob
[12:01] <Koketso_Mabuse> Pls help ooo refuses to install it complains of dependancies this is after I removed it to try out Libreoffice
[12:01] <JadedJacob> auronandace: Just restarted and the new grub menu changes worked :)
[12:01] <oCean> VictorCL: since you have that entry about MTA in the logfile, it is at least trying to write output. So add this   > /tmp/mylogfile.txt 2>&1  at the end of your cronjob, and see what is in /tmp/mylogfile.txt after the job runs
[12:02] <JadedJacob> Just gotta set the timeout now from 10 seconds to 4
[12:02] <dr_willis> Koketso_Mabuse:  i think you may be better off sticking to libreoffice
[12:02] <auronandace> JadedJacob: good stuff :)
[12:02] <oCean> VictorCL: by default, if there's nothing specified to write STDOUT (and/or STDERR) to, cron will try to send it to the user's mailbox
[12:05] <Koketso_Mabuse> dr-willis, issue is that I am trying out OpenERP with Aeroo Reports and when I Use LibreOffice it import distort data
[12:05] <dr_willis> no idea what OpenERP or aeroo is...   Koketso_Mabuse
[12:06] <JadedJacob> how do i print in terminal what graphics driver I'm using?
[12:06] <madm1ke_> Koketso_Mabuse: did you add any ppa or third party repositories to install libreoffice?
[12:06] <Koketso_Mabuse> Ok Ta! google them might like them for business
[12:06] <alecjw> madm1ke_: didn't help. i tried setting it to a percentage based policy too to no effect
[12:06] <Koketso_Mabuse> madm1ke: yes i did
[12:06] <jussi> Koketso_Mabuse: Ive used the kde frontend to open erp and the imports to libreoffice worked fine fromthere.
[12:06] <alecjw> i suppose ill just put up with it, im only gonna have to use ubuntu for another week or so
[12:07] <Koketso_Mabuse> hmmm???? Guide please
[12:07] <Koketso_Mabuse> Jussi
[12:07] <auronandace> JadedJacob: you could check the modules loaded: lsmod
[12:07] <madm1ke_> Koketso_Mabuse: then remove thos repositories, refresh the package list and install openoffice again
[12:08] <madm1ke_> Koketso_Mabuse: and remove libreoffice too, first
[12:08] <Koketso_Mabuse> Ok will try and
[12:08] <auronandace> unrealpancake: got anyone to connect to you?
[12:08] <unrealpancake> no not yet
[12:08] <Koketso_Mabuse> Ta...Madm1ke and jussi
[12:08] <jussi> Koketso_Mabuse:  https://launchpad.net/openobject-client-kde/+download is what Ive used with openerp in the paasty
[12:08] <auronandace> unrealpancake: would you like me to try?
[12:09] <jussi> past even
[12:09] <unrealpancake> sure
[12:09] <JadedJacob> cheers man
[12:09] <VictorCL> can I do       sendreminders.sh >/var/log/cronlog.txt 2>&1     ??
[12:09] <unrealpancake> its almost done installing
[12:09] <unrealpancake> Ill query you the info when its installed
[12:09] <auronandace> unrealpancake: ok
[12:09] <madm1ke_> VictorCL: cronlog is an ugly place or name for your reminder-log . and be sure to append to the file (with >> /var/log/cronlog.txt)
[12:10] <Milossh> hello. I have installed gnome-shell in oneiric, and I'm using Gnome session right now. One thing though: I still can't right click on bars, and my date/time, that should be in top right are in the middle of the top bar right now. Is there a fix?
[12:10] <madm1ke_> my fix was named XFCE
[12:10] <crizzy> the clock is hardcoded in the middle
[12:11] <Milossh> madm1ke_, not sure about that :)
[12:11] <crizzy> in classic you can hold alt and then 2nd click on applets, dunno about gnome-shell though
[12:11] <crizzy> probably it's forced there in 'real' gnome shell
[12:11] <imanc> hey folks - I'm getting this on ubuntu 9.10 when trying to install something with apt-get. Nothing has changed in the settings, so why has this suddenly just appeared?
[12:11] <imanc> 9.10 E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[12:12] <Milossh> crizzy, how do I restart panels? btw, thanks for the alt thingie, it works
[12:12] <crizzy> no idea, i run unity
[12:12] <crizzy> :)
[12:12] <pppurple> query: i just DLed 11.10 and put it onto a USB. looking in the file i see a Wubi application. is this the full working wubi aplication?
[12:12] <crizzy> imanc: ubuntu 9.10 is EOL and repositories have been removed
[12:12] <crizzy> imanc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[12:13] <pdq> Milossh, can edit the code or install a gnome-shell extension to move the clock placement
[12:13] <auronandace> !wubi | pppurple
[12:14] <auronandace> pppurple: i wouldn't recomend it though
[12:14] <Milossh> pdq, so, what you're saying is that, by default, gnome 3 has date in the middle of the top bar/
[12:14] <Milossh> ?
[12:14] <pppurple> Auronandace: why is that?
[12:15] <crizzy> Milossh: yes it has
[12:15] <pdq> yep thats the new default placement
[12:15] <auronandace> pppurple: linux was never meant to be installed through windows
[12:15] <crizzy> hold ald + 2nd click with mouse to move it
[12:15] <dr_willis> seen gnome shell extensions to tweak that clock.
[12:15] <crizzy> dr_willis: just hold alt + 2nd click =P no need for extensions
[12:15] <Milossh> crizzy, srsly? Hmm, I can't resist thinking that FLOSS community just wants us to stop using FLOSS sw :/
[12:15] <dr_willis> crizzy:  add date/month/seconds and other features
[12:16] <crizzy> dr_willis: those are all on alt-2ndclick-preferences
[12:16] <crizzy> works in gnome3 classic mode too
[12:16] <crizzy> preferences are there,
[12:16] <crizzy> just well hidden
[12:16] <VictorCL> ok here is my problem ; I have this cronjob      */1 * * * * /var/www/site/cron/sendreminder.sh >/dev/null 2>&1    now inside sendreminder I have     wget http://localhost/vtiger_solventis/SendReminder.php -O intimatelog.txt    ,  but when cron calls senderminders.sh it wont write to intimatelog.txt ,, if I call senderminders.sh from the terminal , it will  ? , what's wrong?
[12:16] <dr_willis> on a headless server :) so i dont even use gnome. just ssh
[12:16] <pppurple> query: am about to install ubuntu 11.10, will i need to do anything to be able to access the internet once installed?
[12:17] <crizzy> Milossh: "floss community" != gnome developers != community != floss. there's no single entity that runs things or "thinks" something. just sayin'
[12:17] <dr_willis> VictorCL:  your users shell has differnt settings, cron is using a more limited set. would be my guess.
[12:18] <auronandace> pppurple: if you use wireless then you'll need to enter your wireless key after selecting your wifi network
[12:18] <dr_willis> VictorCL:  give the full path for the -O foo.txt  may be a good idea. and make sure its in a world writeable place.
[12:18] <pppurple> wired i should be fine?
[12:18] <pppurple> im getting nervous to run this thing
[12:18] <crizzy> Milossh: also if you wanna configure everything and a kitchen sink, there's always http://www.kde.org/ :P
[12:18] <auronandace> pppurple: sure, wired works great
[12:19] <oCean> VictorCL: you send the output to /dev/null, as I suggested, you should replace /dev/null by something like /tmp/mylog.txt to see what the actual output (STDERR/STDOUT) is
[12:19] <fellipe> hi everyone, I followed the step-by-step in  http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html, and the load balancing seems to working fine. But when I disconnect one of the gateway cable, the route does not change to the other wich is up. But when I do it with the other link, instead the first,  the problem does not happen. any idea?
[12:19] <dr_willis> pppurple:  get virtualbox and try it out in there... thats the 'safest' way to experiment
[12:19] <VictorCL> I will try
[12:19] <pppurple> virtualbox similiar to VM?
[12:19] <dr_willis> !virtualbox
[12:20] <dr_willis> vbox is so handy to experiment with differnt disrtos  with. :)
[12:20] <pppurple> disrtos= ?
[12:20] <crizzy> *distros
[12:21] <theadmin> ...Someone should fix that factoid
[12:23] <pppurple> does a ! denote a link? im not exactly sure how to use all the links in IRC
[12:23] <pppurple> or all the features of IRC to be honest
[12:23] <oCean> theadmin: you can suggest edits yourself http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins#Editing_factoids
[12:23] <theadmin> !virtualbox is <reply> Virtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[12:24] <theadmin> oCean: Thanks, I'm aware
[12:24] <oCean> theadmin: I see :)
[12:24] <auronandace> pppurple: ! means a command for ubottu
[12:24] <auronandace> !bot | pppurple
[12:25] <varun06> Have got a weird issue, I am playing video and it is always running in fast forward mode, no sound also
[12:26] <varun06> please help
[12:26] <dr_willis> what video, what player, whats your system specs. :)
[12:26] <varun06> any video, be it on youtube or my local machine..I have Ubuntu 11.10
[12:26] <madm1ke_> varun06: it's probably running in fast forward because there is no sound
[12:26] <varun06> on Dell Inspiron 15
[12:26] <varun06> r
[12:27] <dr_willis> varun06:  how about your normal clock in the panel is it seeming to run fast also?
[12:27] <varun06> my clock is fine
[12:27] <madm1ke_> dr_willis: have you actually seen something like this? :)
[12:27] <varun06> no boot sound, no normal sound
[12:27] <dr_willis> test a local video with 'vlc' also.
[12:28] <varun06> vlc is also playing video in fast forward mode
[12:28] <dr_willis> madm1ke_:  i had a laptop once. where even the system clock ran like 10x normal speed.. games in wine also ran at 10x normal speeds..
[12:28] <pppurple> oooh thank you! new to IRC, figuring its the best place for hands on advice for ubuntu
[12:30] <dr_willis> madm1ke_:  i had to use some kernel option to fix it.. but then a bios update fixed it  so i dident need the kernel option. this was 3+ yrs ago.
 madm1ke_: - got it fixed
[12:32] <sattu94> varun06: how?
[12:33] <varun06> Sound Settings>Output Then select "Internal Audio Analog Stereo Stereo"
[12:34] <varun06> Manhattan HDMI audio was selected earlier
[12:34] <sattu94> varun06: Okay.
[12:36] <VictorCL> oCean,  is there a wy to make the >/tmp/this.log 2>&1   append to a file instead of overwriting everything?
[12:36] <dr_willis> so... the videos were not running in fast forwared mode at all?
[12:36] <damian> hola alguien?
[12:36] <oCean> VictorCL: sure  >>/tmp/this.log 2>&1 will append
[12:36] <oCean> (the double >>)
[12:36] <dr_willis>  > overwrites >> appends
[12:36] <damian> alguien en español?
[12:37] <oCean> !es | damian
[12:37] <VictorCL> !ru | me
[12:37] <VictorCL> xD
[12:37] <VictorCL> cool , >> does it
[12:39] <auronandace> !rootirc | abraoximenes
[12:45] <risro> can anyone tell me if it's possible to use one serial port with multiple programs at the same time?
[12:46] <risro> there seems to be few programs for windows that can split serial port into virtual serial ports, but I haven't been able to find one that works with linux
[12:48] <weiyang> Pumpkin-, I search the code in sysctl_net_core.c, but don't find indication of wmem_max is the window size, would you mind point me the exact place?
[12:48] <perpetualrabbit> risro, well, if there is no exclusive lock, I suppose it is possible, but it will be like an open radio where all programs speak and listen at the same time. I suppose virtual serial ports use some kind of layer to multiplex, implemented with maybe headers, or timeslots or something else entirely.
[12:50] <airdem> i have problem setting up wireless
[12:51] <airdem> using broadcom b43 driver
[12:51] <airdem> i can enable wlan via ifconfid wlan0 up
[12:51] <airdem> and iwlist wlan0 scan gives results
[12:51] <teddie> have you installed b43-fwcutter?
[12:51] <airdem> but nm-applet  always says "wireless diabled"
[12:51] <airdem> and rightclicking on the nm-applet -> enable wireless
[12:52] <airdem> results in disabling wlan0
[12:52] <airdem> teddie, yes
[12:52] <auronandace> !enter | airdem
[12:52] <airdem> auronandace, forgive me :)
[12:53]  * teddie doesn't know what else to suggest, disappears back into the shadows
[12:53] <pppurple> when using ubuntu, are many programs that run in windows compatable with linux or do they have to be specifically downloaded for linux OS?
[12:54] <auronandace> pppurple: it is best to use native linux programs
[12:54] <risro> perpetualrabbit, The program I'm trying to test has timeslotting for the devices that are connected via the serial cable. the problem I'm having is that the physical devices aren't made yet, so I made a simulator program that talks with the server and it works, but I can't test if mulple "devices" work simultaniously because I can't open the same serial port with more than one simulator.
[12:54] <aethelrick> pppurple,  some windows applications can be run using wine, but linux has many applications and you should use one of these native apps if you can
[12:54] <auronandace> pppurple: you can try windows programs in wine but it is not 100%
[12:55] <pppurple> ok thanks
[12:55] <teddie> And the ones you would want to run (complex suites etc) often don't run due to either using .net or licensing services
[12:55] <aethelrick> pppurple, what kind of windows applications you want to run?
[12:55] <auronandace> !software | pppurple
[12:55] <eXeC001er> Hi. How to configure APT (via https) to ignore checking of self-signed certs ?
[12:56] <risro> perpetualrabbit, so that's why I need to split the serial port into multiple virtual serial ports.
[12:56] <pppurple> how do i use the virtual box from windows, does there website explain it?
[12:56] <iceroot> pppurple: #vbox ##windows
[12:57] <auronandace> virtualbox is very straightforward, you should be able to figure it out when you use it, if not then check their user guide
[12:57] <dr_willis> pppurple:  the website has a manual yes...
[12:57] <teddie> I think all you have to do is select the distro and point to the an iso, and it gives defaults for all other things (ram/virtual disk etc)
[12:57] <dr_willis> pppurple:  get the ubuntu iso, install virtualbox, run it.. follow its wizard dialogs I belive is  the core of it.
[12:58] <dr_willis> you need to insert the 'iso' into the virtual optical drive. :) thats the tricky part.. but its trivial once you do it once.
[12:59] <Nathariel> Hey guys. On Ubuntu 10.04 and 11.04 I am trying to enable logging on iptables but I get: "iptables v1.4.4: Couldn't load target `log':/lib/xtables/libipt_log.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory". The libipt_LOG module is loaded. Any thoughts?
[13:00] <froes_>  hi guys. how can i detect what king of partitions i have on a hard drive via command line ?
[13:00] <froes_> i seem to have more partitions on the drive, but dont know which kind of partition it is... etx4, ntfs, fat, etc
[13:00] <auronandace> froes_: sudo fdisk -l
[13:01] <geirha> froes_: sudo blkid
[13:02] <CasW> What's that program called with which you edit the shortcut keys in Ubuntu?
[13:02] <teddie> gconf-editor
[13:02] <CasW> No, that other one ;) The "normal" one
[13:03] <teddie> "gnome-control-center keyboard"
[13:03] <CasW> Ah, thank you!
[13:04] <van7hu> !12.04
[13:05] <AxonetBE> How can I point all my domain to the same website? I have for example test-domain.be / test-domain.com / test-domain.nl and domain.be / domain.com / domain.nl
[13:05] <dr_willis> they should have named it 'polished pangolin'
[13:05] <dr_willis> :) since polishing up the interface and other rough spots is supposed to be a key area of focus.
[13:06] <teddie> lol
[13:06]  * dr_willis sees visions of a Pangolin building a tiny model ship in a bootle for 'precise' :) vs a clean shiny neat and tidy animal one for 'polished'
[13:07] <jin> ,
[13:07] <jin> l;
[13:07] <jin> iioio
[13:07] <dr_willis> jin, you fell asleep and your head is laying on the keyboard....
[13:07] <oCean> !cn | jin
[13:08] <jin> join<#ubuntu>
[13:09] <User728[web]> hi guys
[13:09] <dr_willis> jin:  you are in #ubuntu now.
[13:09] <User728[web]> can someone help whith this shit "unable to enumerate usb device on port 6 ubuntu" ????
[13:09] <teddie> wow, i'd heard chinese was based on tonality and not types of sound.. but i did not know it was so limited to l's, i's and o's
[13:10] <jin> ???
[13:10] <hw`> teddie: can speak this more clearly
[13:10] <pangolin> Please keep the off topic comments to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[13:12] <jin> 什么东西
[13:14] <Emmy> hello
[13:14] <jin> hello
[13:14] <Emmy> hello Jin
[13:14] <Emmy> could you help me sort out my computer please? :)
[13:14] <jin> hi
[13:15] <dr_willis> And the problem is what Emmy ?
[13:17] <Emmy> hi dr_willis
[13:17] <Emmy> thanks :)
[13:17] <Emmy> I'm running ubuntu in dual boot on an eeePC, and it's completely buggered. Boots straight into a command line interface and I can't do anything.
[13:18] <dr_willis> so you can login to the console and get a normal bash prompt?
[13:18] <Emmy> I get a black screen with 'minimal bash like line editing is supported'
[13:18] <Emmy> only thing I know how to do from there is reboot
[13:18] <dr_willis> minimal? thats the grub menu/shell i belive...
[13:18] <Emmy> think so, yeah
[13:18] <dr_willis> brand new install? or has it worked befor?
[13:18] <Emmy> basically, I installed it from a while ago and it's never been competely stable
[13:19] <theadmin> Emmy: Did you use wubi? Or did you do a normal install?
[13:19] <Emmy> but recently its started just switching off/restarting randomly
[13:19] <Emmy> think I used wubi
[13:19] <Emmy> did it from windows on the netbook
[13:19] <Emmy> didn't really know what I was doing at the time, followed instructions from someone on here,
[13:19] <dr_willis> all i know about wubi is 'to avoid it'
[13:19] <jin> dvd
[13:20] <Emmy> hm
[13:20] <theadmin> Emmy: Wubi breaks all the time, please try and do a normal install.
[13:20] <Emmy> I did try off a usb, couldn't get it to recognise it
[13:20] <dr_willis> You can recover your files from the wubi install if theres anything in your users home on the wubi you want to keep
[13:20] <Emmy> ok, dr_willis, how do I do that?
[13:20] <Emmy> (thanks)
[13:20] <theadmin> Emmy: How did you create the USB?
[13:21] <dr_willis> the wubi stuff is stored in a single file i recall. you can mont that file via the loopback option of mount, from a live cd, or a normal linux install
[13:21] <Emmy> on my old laptop, followed instructions from the ubuntu site
[13:21] <jin> 什么东西？
[13:21] <Emmy> dr_willis, sorry I'm really a noob at this, can you tell me in small words?
[13:21] <dr_willis> !cn | jin
[13:21] <dr_willis> Emmy:  not really. :)
[13:22] <Emmy> hm ok
[13:22] <dr_willis> if you dont know the bascs of linux, it will be a bit of a learning curve.
[13:22] <theadmin> Emmy: I could probably help
[13:22] <jin> 英语
[13:22] <Emmy> do you think it will be possible for me to do given my situatoin?
[13:22] <theadmin> Emmy: Should be
[13:22] <dr_willis> Emmy:  so you can boot to windows on that machine?
[13:22] <Emmy> I'm ready to learn, just need things said in babytalk so I get the hang of it.
[13:22] <Emmy> yes, that's where I am now
[13:22] <theadmin> Emmy: Mind going into a private message session with me so we don't distract people from more major problems? :D
[13:23] <Emmy> sure
[13:23] <theadmin> Emmy: Because they say I'm a good teacher lol
[13:23] <dr_willis> I gotta go get ready for the snow thats heading this way... bbl.
[13:23] <Emmy> bye! thanks dr_willis
[13:23] <theadmin> Emmy: I'm not sure what client you are using, but normally if you type "/query theadmin", such a window should open (without quotes)
[13:24] <Reikoku> Anyone know of a cheap presentation remote that works with ubuntu and Impress?
[13:24] <teddie> Reikoku, a wireless mouse :b
[13:24] <iceroot> Reikoku: every should work because its just acting as a mouse
[13:24] <Reikoku> teddie: Might have to go that route :P
[13:24] <jin> 都是外国人？
[13:25] <jin> 你懂中文？
[13:25] <DJones> !cn | jin
[13:26] <theadmin> what the...
[13:26] <theadmin> I'm making a note here: Ctrl-U doesn't *always* erase the current line xD
[13:28] <_jason> theadmin: when doesn't it?
[13:28] <theadmin> _jason: In my current client >.<
[13:28] <theadmin> _jason: It just produces some weird character here
[13:29] <_jason> theadmin: your client also ignores ctcp version :)
[13:29] <theadmin> _jason: Set it to do so
[13:29] <theadmin> _jason: It's KVIrc 4.0.4 "Insomnia"
[13:30] <yemu> hi there! I have a problem with audio settings (can't set digital output). where should I report that? (I use alc892 chipset)
[13:30] <jin> i don't know
[13:31] <beebs> i have attached a 1 terrrabyte disk to an ubuntu server. Im having trouble mounting it since I dont know the file format. Is there an easy way to find out>?
[13:32] <pepper> help cant i get any substitute for xulrunner
[13:32] <yemu> every time I choose audio output other than analog stereo it switches back to analog stereo :(
[13:33] <beebs> I can see the drive as /dev/sdb but cant tell if it is ntfs or fat32 or extX
[13:34] <petriborg> beebs you should be able to do that w/ gparted
[13:35] <beebs> pteriborg: Im remote, I have used df which states the type. Its mounted now cheers
[13:36] <beebs> petriborg: sorry spelt your name wrong there.
[13:38] <petriborg> np beebs
[13:40] <bromichaelhenry> hello, I have an xps 1530 with a broke screen. Using an ubuntu live cd, I can use the external monitor but when I installed it to the hard drive, as soon as it gets to lightdm login screen, it refuses to let me transfer to the external monitor. I am currently using the live cd to post this. Please help.
[13:40] <petriborg> has anyone tried changing the default font in gnome? After I did so all my java programs started cutting off the text in jbuttons
[13:41] <bromichaelhenry> anyone here?
[13:42] <drunderworld> maybe
[13:42] <petriborg> yes but i don't know how to solve your problem :)
[13:42] <bromichaelhenry> sok. I know it's an xorg issue but other than that....
[13:42] <petriborg> what sort of graphics card are you using bromichaelhenry
[13:43] <bromichaelhenry> nvidia dunno the specific lemme google it
[13:43] <petriborg> on laptops w/ external monitors i have pretty good luck w/ nvidia's settings panel
[13:44] <petriborg> if you can get the nvidia graphics package installed you can maybe use the nvidia-settings program to get the display working. once you do that you can have it write the xorg.conf - i've done that in the past to deal w/ display issues
[13:44] <bromichaelhenry> yeah it was working before i reinstalled
[13:45] <bromichaelhenry> the nvidia settings panel disabled my built in monitor
[13:45] <bromichaelhenry> and my external was my default
[13:45] <petriborg> lol sad
[13:45] <bromichaelhenry> yeah
[13:46] <bromichaelhenry> so now I can't see to run the nvidia-settings program to custom write an xorg file
[13:46] <petriborg> did you have an xorg before?
[13:46] <petriborg> xorg.conf i mean
[13:46] <petriborg> maybe you can modify it by hand
[13:46] <bromichaelhenry> very generic
[13:46] <bromichaelhenry> I can if i knew the settings
[13:47] <bromichaelhenry> nvidia handled them automaticlly
[13:47] <bromichaelhenry> so I never learned them
[13:47] <jin> i want study c programme
[13:47] <bromichaelhenry> @ jin so do I
[13:48] <jin> it's so hard
[13:48] <dr_willis> get a book on C and start reading. :) but if you hjave no programing esperience at all.. well you may want to start with Python
[13:49] <theadmin> Ruby > Python as a noob language imo ^_^
[13:49] <theadmin> Google > books, in general, too.
[13:49] <dr_willis> heres my xorg.conf bromichaelhenry  http://paste.ubuntu.com/753680/
[13:50] <dr_willis> I know more REXX and PERL then i do anything else.
[13:50] <theadmin> dr_willis: I apologize for my ignorance, but, what in the bloody galaxy is REXX?
[13:51] <jelly> hello.  I wish to detect whether my package is running on Ubuntu or Debian to choose a help message in case a locale setting is missing.  What is the optimal way of determining this?
[13:51] <dr_willis> theadmin:  a scripting language. used by os/2 and the AMIGA. also in the repos.
[13:51] <dr_willis> great for text manipulation and as a 'glue/scripting' language in apps
[13:51] <jin> are you all student?
[13:51] <jelly> jin: no.
[13:52] <dr_willis> theres 1591 people here. :) we are not all students
[13:52]  * dr_willis took computer classes on a C64 in High School.
[13:53] <me-1> hi how to install wine..?
[13:53] <jin> baidu
[13:53] <dr_willis> !info regina-rexx
[13:53] <dr_willis> me-1:  sudo apt-get install wine
[13:53] <dr_willis> !wine | me-1
[13:54] <me-1> dr_willis,  no mention of version..?
[13:54] <dr_willis> me-1:  does it matter?
[13:54] <dr_willis> !info wine
[13:54] <me-1> dr_willis,  no . i just wanted to confirm
[13:55] <dr_willis> apt-cache search wine    and see what packages are there. (or use the package manager guis)
[13:55] <dr_willis> confirm what? :)
[13:55] <jin> qq
[13:55] <jin> tencent
[13:55] <jin> i don't know too
[13:56] <me-1> can I be affected by  windows viruses if I install wine..?
[13:57] <jin> dr_wills:which country are you from?
[13:57] <theadmin> me-1: No, not really.
[13:57] <dr_willis> usa.
[13:57] <dr_willis> me-1:  if you ran 'wine theviruseladenapp.exe' you could get your wine stuff goofed up.
[13:57] <dr_willis> ive purposuly ran malware in wine. to see what files it extracted/installed where. :)
[13:58] <rk1router> configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool, any idea
[13:58] <Pici> jin: This channel is for Ubuntu support only.  If you want to just talk to others, please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:58] <dr_willis> worse case - it would mess up your users home files.
[13:58] <me-1> dr_willis,  then what happend
[13:58] <dr_willis> me-1:  not a lot. :)
[13:58] <jin> ...
[13:58] <jin> now is 21:58
[13:58] <me-1> storm i a cup..?
[13:58] <dr_willis> i saw what it put where.. in my .wine dir. so i then went to the problem windows box.. and removed the files that it put on it (for a friends problem machine)
[13:59] <rk1router> configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool, Any idea how to install and confirm XML Parser
[13:59] <me-1> one more question the apps i will install using wine how can i remove them
[13:59] <dr_willis> rk1router:  you checked the package manager tool for a xmlparser perl package?
[14:00] <Pici> rk1router: Do you have the libxml-parser-perl package installed?
[14:00] <dr_willis> me-1:  there should be uninstall icons in the menus. same as for a windows app. or delete your .wine directory
[14:00] <LiNuX`sup> does anyone know how to include network locations in cases like say you are uploading an image through a website, you click upload and you get the file browser... network locations do not appear, not even bookmarked ones... how to fix this?
[14:00] <ahhughez> how can I see if I have package xyz installed?
[14:00] <me-1> I dont need wine btw just looking to play with it
[14:00] <dr_willis> me-1:  go try it out. worse case. you delete .wine, and start over.
[14:01] <dr_willis> LiNuX`sup:  look in your .gvfs directory?
[14:01] <LiNuX`sup> where is that?
[14:01] <llutz> ahhughez: apt-cache policy xaz
[14:01] <dr_willis> in your home dir with all the other .Whatever dirs
[14:01] <LiNuX`sup> k lemme look
[14:04] <dr_willis> samba/windows shares you access via the file manager normally get automounted there. after you access them the first time of course..
[14:04] <LiNuX`sup> dr_willis: the .gvfs directory shows nothing, changes the backround of the dialog to pink
[14:04] <dr_willis> whats the address the gnome file manager says for the  location? use ctrl-l to show its address bar.
[14:05] <kanhiya> how to change bass settings in ubuntu
[14:05] <kanhiya> i mean equalizer in ubuntu
[14:05] <elb0w> How do you change tty in ubuntu 10.10
[14:05] <elb0w> ?
[14:05] <Jax> hello!
[14:05] <kanhiya> like realtek audio manager in ubuntu
[14:05] <Jax> what's the best way to get a bootable ubuntu with persistent storage on 24 usb sticks?
[14:05] <LiNuX`sup> dr_willis: /home/cprint
[14:05] <NerdsMcGee> I with ubuntu wasn't so bitchy about the hardware in my MacBook Pro. :(
[14:06] <dr_willis> kanhiya:  ive seen   equalizer apps mentioned on the webupd8 and omgubuntu blog sites.. but never noticed one installed by default. some media/music players have their own.
[14:06] <iceroot> Jax: prepare one stick and then clone the sticks with dd or clonezilla
[14:06] <iceroot> !usb | Jax
[14:06] <dr_willis> LiNuX`sup:  the location of the file you are trying to access..
[14:06] <LiNuX`sup> it's a network location
[14:06] <dr_willis> LiNuX`sup: /home/cprint is just your 'home' directory.
[14:06] <Jax> thx
[14:06] <dr_willis> LiNuX`sup: . yes.. so browse to the location of the file. and look at the address..
[14:06] <kanhiya> i am having rhythmbox but disn't find anywhere
[14:06] <kanhiya> didn't
[14:06] <dr_willis> in the normal file manager..
[14:07] <LiNuX`sup> dr_willis: smb://cpserv01/server/Website%20Files
[14:08] <jin> today i install linux mint 12
[14:09] <tiox> Hey all, came to ask if there is any way I can modify Unity's window snapping behavior.
[14:10] <LiNuX`sup> tiox: there are some tweaks, but it's the current behavior from what I've read
[14:10] <Sazpaimon> 227800912896 bytes (228 GB) copied, 59538.9 s, 3.8 MB/s
[14:10] <Sazpaimon> you're killing me dd
[14:10] <LiNuX`sup> tiox: there are some tweaks you can do in ccsm but be careful
[14:10] <jin> so fast
[14:10] <tiox> yeah, I know
[14:11] <Sazpaimon> i leave dd to run overnight copying a 640GB hard drive to a new drive, come back and see this
[14:11] <tiox> But is Unity's snapping part of Unity or some other Compiz plugin?
[14:11] <llutz> Sazpaimon: dd without bs=4k or more?
[14:11] <tiox> And if it is solely a Unity thing, could I disable it in favor for Compiz's snapping windows?
[14:11] <LiNuX`sup> tiox: it appears it's unity, but people have found some tweaks that make it better in compiz
[14:12] <tiox> I would love to know what source you're referencing so i can check it out.
[14:12] <LiNuX`sup> tiox: I think the only way to completely rid yoursel of it is to go with gnome panel
[14:12] <Sazpaimon> llutz, bs=1k
[14:12] <tiox> Ewww, no.
[14:12] <LiNuX`sup> just google it tiox
[14:12]  * tiox shrugs
[14:12] <llutz> Sazpaimon: then you'll have to wait ...
[14:12] <LiNuX`sup> ubuntu 11.10 choppy window
[14:12] <Sazpaimon> the drive I'm copying from is faulty
[14:12] <Sazpaimon> so I'm running with noerror
[14:12] <tiox> !google
[14:13] <Sazpaimon> I didn't want to use too high of a block size and get giant 512k blocks of null bytes
[14:13] <JadedJacob> i know this is off topic, but has anyone ever run into problems on laptops using two different manufacturers for RAM ?
[14:13] <tiox> !google | LiNuX`sup
[14:13] <Sazpaimon> llutz, I think I'm past the bad sectors now, though
[14:13] <xangua> JadedJacob: no
[14:13] <Sazpaimon> any way I can stop the process and start from where I left off on both the new drive and the old drive?
[14:13] <Sazpaimon> I know I can use skip on the if, but what about of
[14:14] <llutz> Sazpaimon: yes, note the written bytes and skip/offset new dd
[14:14] <LiNuX`sup> tiox: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+11.10+choppy+window
[14:14] <LiNuX`sup> :)
[14:14] <llutz> Sazpaimon: of=2nd.img             later copy them together
[14:14] <Pici> LiNuX`sup: Thats not helpful in this channel.
[14:14] <sharpK> anyone have experience sharing a printer from Ubuntu (through Samba) with windows clients?
[14:14] <Sazpaimon> llutz, don't have anywhere to store an img file
[14:15] <Sazpaimon> especially a 400GB one
[14:15] <Sazpaimon> can't I offset the of=/dev/sda device?
[14:15] <Sazpaimon> or can I only skip the input file?
[14:15] <tiox> Not what I was looking for.
[14:16] <dr_willis> LiNuX`sup:  when i access a smb:// place here its showing up in .gvfs for me
[14:16] <bromichaelhenry> hello
[14:16] <dr_willis> LiNuX`sup:  just uploaded a image via firefox using .gvfs
[14:16] <bromichaelhenry> to the guy that was helping me
[14:16] <bromichaelhenry> I figured it out
[14:16] <Alinn> Hi:)
[14:16] <LiNuX`sup> dr_willis: that's unfortunate. I really hate having to copy entire directories to upload things to my webdev
[14:17] <LiNuX`sup> dr_willis: I tried to even make link and it returned an error saying it can't
[14:17] <dr_willis> LiNuX`sup:  mount the share by hand to some static location of your choice.
[14:17] <bromichaelhenry> I booted up into recovery mode and ran the command nvidia-xconfig -twinview
[14:17] <llutz> Sazpaimon: seek=BLOCKS - skip BLOCKS obs-sized blocks at start of output          should append?
[14:17] <dr_willis> the smb:// typa address will ONLY work with gnome apps I belive LiNuX`sup .
[14:17] <tiox> I want to modify the window snap behavior. By default, left and right take half the screen and top maximizes, when i want it to be left and right takes half the screen, top and bottom takes half the screen, and corners take 1/4th, like I had before in Compiz before the Ubuntu dev team and Gnome dev team decided it was too good a thing for others to use.
[14:17] <office3> I have a networked printer that keeps printing gibberish, and I can't track down the source
[14:17] <bromichaelhenry> works like a champ now so to the guy that was helping me, thanks
[14:17] <Sazpaimon> llutz, should?
[14:17] <llutz> Sazpaimon: i never used it
[14:17] <saju_m> i want to copy all files which are end with name "Manager",  i am using find command
[14:18] <LiNuX`sup> dr_willis: thanks for your help I will try out a few things
[14:18] <saju_m> here is the command  $ find -name *Manager -exec cp ~/Desktop/yy/ '{}' \;
[14:18] <Sazpaimon> I'll double check with my friends in #gentoo to be sure
[14:18] <saju_m> but it not working,  showing message,   cp: omitting directory `/home/saju/Desktop/yy/'
[14:19] <aethelrick> saju_m, cp -r
[14:19] <geirha> saju_m: find . -name "*Manager" -exec cp {} ~/Desktop/yy/ \;
[14:19] <llutz> saju_m: find path/ -type f -name "*Manager" -exec cp  '{}' ~/Desktop/yy \;
[14:19] <Jax> iceroot: is usb-creator on the live cd? or do i need to have a ubuntu installation to be able to use usb-creator?
[14:20] <saju_m> ok thanks
[14:20] <Alinn> my graphic card is onboard and it is Radeon HD 4200. in this page: what is it? "Desktop Graphics" or "integrated Motherboard Graphics" or "Embedded Graphics" ?
[14:20] <Alinn> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
[14:20] <dr_willis> Jax:  i think its on the  cd.  or i belive you can download it from the ubuntu web site. pendrivelinux has alternaive tools also.
[14:21] <Sazpaimon> llutz, http://pastebin.com/wJ6AZSaz what do I need to set skip/seek to to pick up where I left off
[14:21] <dr_willis> Alinn:  you have tried the fglrx drivers from the ubuntu repos first? assuming you are trying to get them going. :)
[14:23] <Sazpaimon> http://pastebin.com/rhL7Zd1e here this is what I need
[14:23] <rudak> a +
[14:23] <LiNuX`sup> dr_willis: aparantly I just needed to install SAMBA
[14:23] <LiNuX`sup> dr_willis: it's all fully working now
[14:24] <dr_willis> you were able to access the shares befor install ing samba? odd...
[14:24] <dr_willis> after installing samba they now show up in gvfs?
[14:24] <LiNuX`sup> yes through the regular file browser
[14:24] <LiNuX`sup> yes
[14:24] <dr_willis> cant say ive ever noticed that befor. could be the file manager has 2 modes of accessing the shares.
[14:24] <LiNuX`sup> I set a connect for the server and stored information when I installed
[14:24] <dr_willis> but i always install samba. :)
[14:25] <dr_willis> like in the top 10 things i do on a new install.
[14:25] <LiNuX`sup> haha I'll do that from now on
[14:25] <dr_willis> !info smbfs
[14:25] <Alinn> dr_willis: When i activated it in "additional Driver" some letters and icons in my desktop vanish.
[14:25] <Alinn> dr_willis: i have mint 12
[14:26] <VictorCL> if I open a log file  with less or vim , if the files is being updated , will it be updated on my screen aswell?
[14:26] <dr_willis> Alinn:  just some letters? like the letter 'e' ? ie:::   letters becomes 'l tt rs' ?
[14:26] <dr_willis> Alinn:  you should be asking for help in the mint channels then.
[14:26] <geirha> VictorCL: No, but you can hit Shift+G to go to the end, including any new lines it may have gotten.
[14:26] <geirha> VictorCL: You can also hit Ctrl+F to follow file changes, Ctrl+C to get back to normal.
[14:26] <llutz> Sazpaimon: skip=225080793  seek=225080793  i'd say
[14:27] <geirha> VictorCL: That is in less that is.
[14:27] <Sazpaimon> llutz, records = blocks here?
[14:27] <Alinn> dr_willis: exactly..
[14:27] <llutz> Sazpaimon: afaik yes,     add "oflag=append"
[14:27] <dr_willis> bbl. gotta do some more snow storm-a-comming-prep. :)
[14:28] <danilo__> hello
[14:28] <Sazpaimon> okay so sudo dd if=/dev/sdc skip=225080793 of=/dev/sda seek=225080793 oflag=append bs=256K conv=noerror,sync
[14:28] <Sazpaimon> look good?
[14:28] <llutz> Sazpaimon: better to ask your compiling-friends to be sure, but i'd say it's ok
[14:28] <Vir> Hi, I'm wondering why/when my ~/.wine installation broke. It is telling me now that wineserver is 32-bit (which 'file /usr/bin/wineserver' confirms). But this wasn't always the case and I was happily using a 64-bit wine. Now all those programs don't work anymore. Google and I are out of ideas (other than a custom wine installation).
[14:29] <danilo__> can I ask a question about a strange problem in ssh?
[14:29] <Alinn> dr_willis: Thanks:)
[14:29] <skilz> How can I just update a particular package and not my whole system?
[14:29] <JadedJacob> how do i disable my SD CARD in ubuntu?
[14:29] <djosefsson> Hi, I'm sitting and trying out the launcher and creating my own Desktop entries, but a thing that I can't get a grip on is search paths for icons.  How do I enable Icon=applicationname? I have copied my icon to /usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/applicationname.png. Is it neccesary to have a icon in each YYxZZ folder? It works well when I hard code the icon address into the desktop entry.
[14:29] <llutz> skilz: apt-get install package
[14:30] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[14:30] <knxville> Hello, how do I remove a program I installed through ./ ?? I tried sudo apt-get remove ovftool and I also tried to find it using dpkg --list | grep ovf
[14:30] <quixotedon> hi all! firefox on 11.10 is running slower than on 11.04, is it the same problem you are having?
[14:30] <Resistance> knxville, if you installed from a .run or a .bin, apt-get and dpkg both wont show it
[14:31] <_jason> knxville: by "installed through ./" do you mean "installed by executing a random script"?
[14:31] <Resistance> knxville, since dpkg only deals with packages
[14:31] <knxville> Yeah.. It was VMWare OVFTools..
[14:31] <_jason> !who | knxville
[14:31] <knxville> _jason: Yea.. It was VMWare OVFTools..
[14:32] <_jason> knxville: your best bet is to read the software's documentation on how to uninstall then
[14:32] <Xelmep> i need help about OpenVPN
[14:32] <Alinn> dr_willis: Which item is my graphic card? "Desktop Graphics" or "integrated Motherboard Graphics" or "Embedded Graphics" ?
[14:33] <Xelmep> i can`t connect to vpn server
[14:34] <_jason> knxville: if the documentation is lacking, you might try #vmware, and as a last resort you'll have to just delete the files yourself manually
[14:34] <knxville> _jason: Im sitting with the --help command, nothing about uninstallation and im sitting with the OVF Tool Manual/Guide.. Nothing about installation either :(
[14:34] <knxville> _jason: Yeah okay, thanks! :)
[14:35] <_jason> knxville: you tried passing --help to the install script you ran?
[14:35] <esteeven> Hello. I did an upgrade on LTS but on reboot I get an error message on GDM saying that GNOME Power Manager has not been installed properly. I have no keyboard or mouse (it's an Acer Aspire One.) I can't get to a VTT. What can I do?
[14:35] <Xelmep> I need HELP about configuring OpenVPN Server please !
[14:35] <knxville> _jason: Hmm, no i have not.. how would I do that? ./script_name --help?
[14:35] <Sazpaimon> llutz, dd: you probably want conv=notrunc with oflag=append ; dd: `/dev/sdc': cannot skip: Invalid argument
[14:35] <_jason> knxville: you can try
[14:35] <celthunder> Xelmep: what about it
[14:35] <_jason> knxville: also if it's a shell script, you might try reading it
[14:36] <Xelmep> celthunder: i configured by online tutorial, but i cant connect
[14:36] <celthunder> Xelmep: what's in the logs?
[14:36] <Sazpaimon> llutz, any idea?
[14:36] <llutz> Sazpaimon: no sry
[14:36] <Xelmep> celthunder: how to see logs ?
[14:36] <Sazpaimon> well there goes 16 hours of drive cloning down the drain
[14:37] <dr_willis> Alinn:  those terms all basically mean the same to me... try #2 and see what it says,, i guess..
[14:37] <conntrack> o_O
[14:38] <Xelmep> celthunder: how to see logs ?
[14:38] <diatomaceous> Ugh.. one of the drives in my Raid5 array has failed and now my computer won't boot... even with a live USB stick.  Can anyone with mdadm experience help out?
[14:38] <celthunder> esteeven: google gnome power management boot error i don't have copy paste atm but first result was a major problem a while ago
[14:38] <bluenemo_> if it wont boot from live stick it may be the damaged hdd preventing a clean post
[14:38] <bluenemo_> diatomaceous,
[14:38] <celthunder> Xelmep: uhm you set the log location in your configs
[14:38] <bluenemo_> it should boot from a live stick..
[14:39] <VictorCL> if I open a log file  with less or vim , if the files is being updated , will it be updated on my screen aswell?
[14:39] <sharpK> anyone have experience sharing a printer from Ubuntu (through Samba) with windows clients?
[14:39] <diatomaceous> bluenemo_: I know it should.. but I get a lot of 'bad sector' errors and it says it failed to load the linux image.
[14:39] <Alinn> dr_willis: #2? integrated Motherboard Graphics?
[14:40] <dr_willis> Alinn:  sure why not.. flip a coin.. try it allready...
[14:40] <dr_willis> Alinn:  linux drivers are based on the chipset.. not where its attatched
[14:40] <bluenemo_> diatomaceous, when you boot the live stick? try getting a new live system then, i use debian-live (.org)
[14:40] <Xelmep> celthunder: when i try to start OpenVPN from webmin i have this error Command Execution Error /etc/init.d/openvpn start server
[14:40] <diatomaceous> bluenemo_: the live stick works fine in other computers
[14:41] <diatomaceous> bluenemo_: I think it's trying to assemble the array upon boot
[14:41] <Alinn> dr_willis: Thanks a lot:)
[14:41] <dr_willis> Xelmep:  try starting the service by hand. not via webmin (which is not really reccomenede for ubuntu )
[14:41] <esteeven> celthunder, okay. will look -----
[14:41] <bluenemo_> when booting from a live stick it shouldnt. did you unplug the broken hdd?
[14:42] <diatomaceous> bluenemo_: I'm not sure which hard drive is broken
[14:42] <diatomaceous> bluenemo_:  (which physical one)
[14:42] <diatomaceous> bluenemo_: I know it's "/dev/sdc1"
[14:42] <Xelmep> dr_willis:  *   Starting VPN 'server'                                               [fail]
[14:43] <Xelmep> i have this error by SSH
[14:43] <diatomaceous> bluenemo_: would it do any hard to unplug the wrong one?
[14:43] <dr_willis> Xelmep:  check the vpn server logs I  think would be the next step. see why it failed.
[14:43] <celthunder> Xelmep: anything in dmesg?
[14:43] <JadedJacob> how can i troubleshoot whu my laptop isn't waking from suspend ?
[14:43] <diatomaceous> err, harm, not hard
[14:43] <Xelmep> dr_willis: how to check logs i can`t find it
[14:44] <bluenemo_> diatomaceous, try to unplug all first and see if it boots then
[14:44] <llutz> Xelmep: /var/log/syslog, /var/log/daemon.log
[14:44] <dr_willis> Xelmep:  no idea. check the openvpn docs to see where it logs are and how to enable verbose logging.
[14:44] <bluenemo_> btw raid =! backup
[14:44] <dr_willis> tail -f /var/log/*   :)  that would be overkill?
[14:44] <kanhiya> how to fix bluetooth issue in ubuntu 11.10
[14:45] <diatomaceous> bluenemo_: Ok, I'll try that when I get home again.  Thanks.    In theory, with only one drive removed from a raid5 array, all my data should be intact, right?
[14:45] <dr_willis> kanhiya:  would depend on the exact issue.
[14:45] <bluenemo_> as far as i know yes
[14:45] <llutz> dr_willis: grep -ri vpn  /var/log/*          maybe
[14:45] <kanhiya> i am not able to send or receive files in Ubuntu 11.10 , permission denied (13)
[14:45] <dr_willis> i think ive used multitail  befor. ;)
[14:46] <celthunder> kanhiya: is your user given permissions?
[14:46] <kanhiya> I have tried the same on many laptops but same probems
[14:46] <kanhiya> celthunder: I am the only one user, Administrator
[14:46] <dr_willis> kanhiya:  try pairing from the phone to the pc.. then if that fails.. try the otehr way. I had a problem box tht i had to pair from the phone to the pc.. the reverse way never worked..
[14:47] <dr_willis> ive not needed to use bluetooth in ages. :)  gotta love wi-fi phones.
[14:47] <kanhiya> let me try that
[14:48] <dr_willis> bluetooth is one of those great ideas.. that really should of took off.. but just seemed too problematic. :(
[14:48] <celthunder> kanhiya: you shouldn't use root all the time anyway and if root gets permission denied then its something wrong in whatever you're using to transfer/the pairing
[14:49] <dr_willis> i think he ment administator as his first and only created user.
[14:49] <dr_willis> i hope...
[14:49] <celthunder> just because you make one accnt first doesn't make it an admin :)
[14:50] <dr_willis> if its the user he made during install it would...  and its the only one...
[14:50] <dr_willis> or else hes going to have bigger issues then no bluetooth :)
[14:50]  * dr_willis recalls the installer bug that let people name their first user 'root' ages back.. that was weird.. :)
[14:51]  * Pici recalls dr_willis saying the same thing yesterday
[14:51] <dr_willis> r00t :)
[14:51] <esteeven> celthunder, hmmmm. yes there was an issue but all of the solutions require access to the CLI. I can't get to a VTT because my keyboard is dead at the GDM screen
[14:51] <dr_willis> the good old days.  of 'you did what ? why would you even do that....'
[14:51] <HaPK_PerCar> I have an annoying graphics problem... I recently installed the privative graphics controllers for my graphics card, and now my desktop moves kinda slow. I used to fix this by using the compiz-fusion icon, and activate indirect rendering, but now there is no compiz-fusion icon and no way to easily activate indirect rendering.
[14:52] <dr_willis> esteeven:  does it work at the GRUB menus?
[14:52] <kanhiya> dr_willis: Setup device successfully , now there is no icon on my panel
[14:52] <dr_willis> kanhiya:  no idea on that. Ive not used bluetooth in ages.
[14:52] <kanhiya> dr_willis: NOT able to send or receive files
[14:52] <HaPK_PerCar> I tried running compiz --replace --indirect-rendering but it broke my desktop
[14:52] <dr_willis> kanhiya:  the forums or askubuntu.com may have some more up to date help.
[14:52] <celthunder> dr_willis: boot to init 1 or whatever ubuntu calls it now and if your keyboard doesn't work at grub then you're more or less f'd unless you have a ps2 keyboard laying around
[14:52] <kanhiya> i was not having any problem in earlier versions
[14:53] <kanhiya> dr_willis: Thanks
[14:53] <esteeven> dr_willis, it does
[14:53] <dr_willis> !text | esteeven
[14:53] <celthunder> dr_willis: i really should reinstall ubuntu and see whats new now last i checked users were users and admins were root/part of wheel etc
[14:53] <dr_willis> esteeven:  use the text option to go stragiht to a console.
[14:53] <lolmaus> Got errors with "linux-image-blah" when running "aptitude safe-upgrade": https://gist.github.com/1405062 Please help me resolve this.
[14:53] <me-1> hi...how to download videos from websites like youtube etc
[14:54] <dr_willis> cellardoor:  first made user has sudo rights.. others dont. :) its that straight forward.
[14:54] <dr_willis> me-1:  use a browser plugin is how i do it.
[14:54] <celthunder> dr_willis: visudo
[14:54] <celthunder> me-1: clive youtube-dl clipgrab
[14:54] <dr_willis> celthunder:  yes.. theres other tools also to manage them.. im stating how it is by default.
[14:54] <me-1> dr_willis,  how to install and use it
[14:55] <esteeven> dr_willis, ubottu : trying now
[14:55] <dr_willis> me-1:  go to the plugin site for whatever browser you are using.. look for a plyugin to do the job you want......
[14:55] <me-1> celthunder,  how to install it
[14:55] <celthunder> me-1: apt-cache search apt-get install
[14:55] <me-1> dr_willis,  I am using firefox
[14:55] <dr_willis> a lot of the stand alone youtube downloaders have issues when youtube or other sites change stuff.
[14:56] <dr_willis> me-1:  so..... go to the plugin site for firefox.. look for a plyugin to do the job you want......
[14:56] <lacrymology> whenever I try to search in synaptic it crashes
[14:56] <llutz> Sazpaimon: sudo dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sda seek=230482732032 skip=230482732032 bs=256K conv=noerror,sync,notrunc oflag=append
[14:57] <HaPK_PerCar> so, can't anyone help me with my graphics problem?
[14:57] <quixotedon> me-1: use ant downloader in firefox as add-on
[14:57] <apwbdjp> !ask | HaPK_PerCar
[14:58] <HaPK_PerCar> I have an annoying graphics problem... I recently installed the privative graphics controllers for my graphics card, and now my desktop moves kinda slow. I used to fix this by using the compiz-fusion icon, and activate indirect rendering, but now there is no compiz-fusion icon and no way to easily activate indirect rendering.
[14:58] <HaPK_PerCar> so, can't anyone help me with my graphics problem?
[14:58] <esteeven> dr_willis, ubottu : boot freezes @ "Begin: Running /scripts/init-botton... Done" Ctrl + Alt + Del restarts
[14:58] <pppurple> what channel would i use to discuss partitioning in windows? or if some one would like to msg me
[14:58] <celthunder> HaPK_PerCar: what graphics card intel amd nvidia?
[14:58] <quixotedon> metellius: now that the problem with my firefox is, it keeps on freezing
[14:58] <celthunder> pppurple: #windows?
[14:58] <Sazpaimon> llutz, dd: `/dev/sdc': cannot skip: Invalid argument
[14:58] <HaPK_PerCar> celthunder, ati... but I guess that's amd now
[14:59] <Sazpaimon> llutz, just going to use ddrescue with --reverse
[14:59] <HaPK_PerCar> celthunder, but that's irrelevant, I onyl want to start compiz with indirect rendering on
[14:59] <Sazpaimon> then stop once it reaches the end point of my first run
[14:59] <llutz> Sazpaimon: sudo fdisk -l                does it still list /dev/sdc at all?
[14:59] <Sazpaimon> llutz, the partition table on the old drive is missing,
[14:59] <CrazyThinker> I'm trying to remove skype icon from notification area of 11.10. I removed it from systray-whitelist using dconf-editor, but its still there
[14:59] <Sazpaimon> so no, it wont
[14:59] <Sazpaimon> once this is done, I'm going to run testdisk to repair the partition table
[15:00] <llutz> Sazpaimon: dd won't care about partitiontables and filesystems
[15:00] <Sazpaimon> llutz, you were talking about fdisk
[15:00] <llutz> Sazpaimon: which should detect at least a broken sdc
[15:00] <Sazpaimon> oh i see what you meant, yeah sdc still exists
[15:00] <llutz> Sazpaimon: ok, no idea then. good luck with ddrescue
[15:00] <Sazpaimon> sudo ddrescue --force --reverse -b 262144 -n /dev/sdc /dev/sda is working
[15:01] <drunderworld> I want to use FreeBSD but I don't know how to set up wireless with it
[15:01] <llutz> drunderworld: #freebsd
[15:01] <JadedJacob> If I'm created a liveCD out of flashdrive, can i use that to upgrade ubuntu?
[15:02] <llutz> drunderworld: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/
[15:04] <drunderworld> I'll look into it
[15:05] <ubuntu> Bhupinder
[15:06] <MJ23> Hello, someone who knows gparted/resizing partitions well? I want to take away some space from my ubuntu home partition and put it into my pinguy os partition. I can resize the ubuntu partition and get new allocated space but i cant use that to enlarge my pinguy os partition. Im running pinguy OS now. Thanks
[15:07] <esteeven> okay. time to chroot :)
[15:07] <HaPK_PerCar> MJ23, you can't rezise a partition that has already been mounted
[15:07] <ozzloy> how do i set up an encrypted folder that i can unlock, work in it, then lock it back up?
[15:07] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[15:07] <dr_willis> MJ23:  you can have issues also moveing stuff to/from primary to extended/logical partitions
[15:08] <HaPK_PerCar> MJ23, so you have to this by using a system that's not running from any of those 2 partitions
[15:08] <MJ23> Hapk_percar hmm... so what should i do? I cant unmount my home folders?
[15:08] <dr_willis> MJ23:  best to do this sort of task from a live cd.
[15:08] <ozzloy> rather than having an encrypted archive that i can work on, then encrypt the result and rm -rf the unencrypted version?
[15:08] <HaPK_PerCar> MJ23, I suggest you use a live cd to do this
[15:08] <dr_willis> !encrypt
[15:09] <MJ23> live cd= cd installed with what?
[15:09] <HaPK_PerCar> MJ23, use an Ubuntu CD, it works as a live cd :)
[15:09] <dr_willis> or a gparted live cd... or a partion magic live cd....
[15:10] <ozzloy> dr_willis, ty
[15:10] <dr_willis> or a flash drive with a live os set on it.
[15:10] <MJ23> hapk_percar and use the custom installation, but instead of install the os in the end i just quit?
[15:10] <HaPK_PerCar> MJ23, yes
[15:11] <HaPK_PerCar> MJ23, well, no
[15:11] <HaPK_PerCar> MJ23, ubuntu has gparted in it's live cd
[15:11] <HaPK_PerCar> MJ23, so you can use just that
[15:11] <MJ23> does the adjustment get
[15:11] <MJ23> ups
[15:12] <lucky__> hello everyone ~
[15:12] <MJ23> ill try find that gparted in my ubuntu cd
[15:12] <MJ23> ty
[15:14] <pppurple> when creating a partition of 300gigs, how much would be recommended for a first time linux user to dedicate to ubuntu?
[15:15] <HaPK_PerCar> pppurple, it depends on what you want to install
[15:16] <JadedJacob> never mind.
[15:16] <HaPK_PerCar> pppurple, I have 40Gb on my / partition and is more than enough
[15:16] <JadedJacob> just updating the new packages, rather than the full upgrade to 11.10
[15:16] <pppurple> do you also run a windows OS?
[15:17] <HaPK_PerCar> pppurple, yes
[15:18] <jbuchanan> #somerville
[15:19] <pppurple> does 11.10 come with a browser?
[15:20] <|Slacker|> 0.o
[15:20] <auronandace> pppurple: yes
[15:20] <|Slacker|> pppurple, it ships FF
[15:21] <Jax> hm, won't a livecd work on a macbook?
[15:22] <Jax> also, tried the dd if=ubuntu-11.10.img of=/dev/rdisk1 (usb) but it doesn't show up when i start my macbook pro
[15:22] <sancris> Jax, a macbook doesn't have a BIOS, I'm afraid the booting process is quite different
[15:23] <sunson> I'm from India. Does anyone know what this "TR-69" software (.EXE) made mandatory by Airtel ISP in India exactly do? They seem to be running some kind of a transparent HTTP proxy which 'works' only after installing this specific TR69.EXE
[15:24] <sunson> though I'm able to ssh et al
[15:24] <sunson> (heh)
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> sunson: looks exe is windows
[15:24] <Resistance> sunson, google is your friend.  we dont usually know about .exe files since those are usually windows stuffs
[15:24] <jin> en
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> !google| Resistance
[15:25] <jin> or baidu it
[15:25] <HaPK_PerCar> I have an annoying graphics problem... I recently installed the privative graphics controllers for my graphics card, and now my desktop moves kinda slow. I used to fix this by using the compiz-fusion icon, and activate indirect rendering, but now there is no compiz-fusion icon and no way to easily activate indirect rendering.
[15:25] <jazzguitar> anybody here??
[15:25] <jazzguitar> =_=
[15:25] <HaPK_PerCar> so, can't anyone help me with my graphics problem?
[15:25] <Resistance> MonkeyDust, tell me that after you get WinXP running on Ubuntu :P
[15:25] <luvshines> Am running 10.10 for quite some time now. I have noticed that moving/copying data from any external USB media (pen drive, HDD) consumes all of my CPU [both the cores :( ]. System becomes sluggish and other apps respond too slow
[15:25] <histo> sunson: does it maybe provide dns servers
[15:26] <MonkeyDust> Resistance: i have win xp in virtual box, works fine
[15:26] <luvshines> have 4GB RAM on my Thinkpad
[15:26] <HaPK_PerCar> I tried running compiz --replace --indirect-rendering but it broke my desktop
[15:26] <histo> sunson: for instance if you connect without their software can you ping ips
[15:26] <Resistance> MonkeyDust, i dont mean in vbox ;P
[15:26] <jin> 虚拟机
[15:27] <Resistance> MonkeyDust, in any case, my original statement stands because its a windows executable, not a linux binary, therefore we dont typically know about windows executables
[15:27] <histo> luvshines: have you tried copying to the drive from another machine?
[15:27] <Resistance> MonkeyDust, especially non-mainstream ones
[15:27] <sunson> histo: I'm connected via ssh to my server from where I'm IRC'ing
[15:27] <histo> sunson: are you using ssh via a url oor ip?
[15:28] <Resistance> !chinese | jin
[15:28] <Resistance> i think...
[15:28] <luvshines> yeah. I think I tried running from windows. that was fine
[15:28] <Guiri> I seem to remember a way to specify which packages apt-get may automatically update.  Does anybody know how to do this?
[15:28] <histo> luvshines: hrm.. that's odd. I'd be lookign at dmesg and syslog for errors etc..
[15:28] <histo> !pin | Guiri
[15:28] <luvshines> it not just happens with any particular HDD, but any HDD or pen drive that I connect to my machine
[15:29] <histo> luvshines: I don't experience this. So maybe something weird with the kernel you are running and your chipset
[15:29] <histo> luvshines: Have you tried searching the forums or launchpad?
[15:29] <leafpile> Should I expect update-manager to require my password to install packages?
[15:30] <ikonia> leafpile: yes
[15:30] <luvshines> not yet posted on the forums. will do that with some logs (if relevant) from dmesg
[15:30] <histo> luvshines: well I was saying to search i'm sure if its bug someone else has expereienced it
[15:30] <leafpile> update-manager has not asked for my password for awhile now, yet is able to install updates
[15:30] <leafpile> a couple of weeks at least
[15:31] <Utopiah> hi #ubuntu
[15:31] <Utopiah> must have an APCI problem my 11.10 does not halt the computer, it cleanly stops but I still have to physically press the power button, any suggestion?
[15:32] <Utopiah> (PS: it's an IBM, seems a friend with another one has that issue too)
[15:32] <genii-around> Utopiah: Append acpi=force to kernel load line.
[15:32] <histo> leafpile: it won't if you used admin password for something in the last 15 minutes
[15:33] <Jax> so how am i supposed to create a live usb stick on mac?
[15:33] <histo> !install | Jax
[15:33] <Jax> i made the cd, but it wont boot on mac of course
[15:33] <histo> !md5sum | Jax
[15:33] <Jax> i made the cd because i wanted to use the usb-creator tool to create a bootable usb stick with persistance
[15:33] <histo> !mac > Jax
[15:34] <histo> Jax: you didn't have to do all that
[15:34] <osmosis_paul> Hi guys let's see if someone can help me
[15:34] <luvshines> histo: yeah got that. I am looking in the forums now. Have found some similar references, will see if I can get anything worthwhile
[15:34] <Jax> well for some reason, there are lots of windows tools to create a ubuntu usb stick with persistance
[15:34] <Jax> but none for mac
[15:34] <office3> sunson: I think it may be a scam, I googled it, nothing came up. Have you tried calling the people who want you to install it?
[15:34] <osmosis_paul> I'm trying to copy one tar from a remote machine to my local machine. from my local machine I execute rsync -avP -e ssh -i .ssh/booster_aws.pem /home/ubuntu/test.tar.gz ubuntu@************:/home/ubuntu/
[15:35] <osmosis_paul> but still ask me by my password
[15:35] <histo> Jax: I was going to say if you don't need persistance you could just dd the iso
[15:35] <osmosis_paul> any idea?
[15:35] <osmosis_paul> I'm making the ssh call from local A to remote B and I want to transfer the file from B to A
[15:35] <osmosis_paul> it is correct what I'm trying to do?
[15:36] <Ulti> how can I detect hardlinks to directories?
[15:37] <llutz> osmosis_paul: scp -i .ssh/booster_aws.pem /home/ubuntu/test.tar.gz ubuntu@************:/home/ubuntu    and i guess you need to convert your pem-key into ssh-format
[15:38] <osmosis_paul> llutz, still ask me for password
[15:38] <zafrola> hello, I have a toshiba nb205 netbook. I have installed ubuntu 11.11 and it runs incredibly slow unless I keep shift pressed or keep playing with the trackpad
[15:38] <llutz> osmosis_paul: have you read the 2nd part of my line?
[15:39] <Morrigand> Whoch channel is for server edition suppor? I dont have channel list with this client
[15:39] <zafrola> any idea hor to solve this?
[15:39] <zafrola> *how
[15:39] <oCean> Morrigand: #ubuntu-server
[15:39] <osmosis_paul> llutz, is because the format of the key? normally I use that key to connect by ssh and dont ask me password
[15:39] <Utopiah> thanks genii-around , will try
[15:40] <Morrigand> Ty
[15:41] <Si2100> Guys, i can get ubunut to boot =/ on my Dual install on Win7 n Ubuntu 11.10
[15:41] <kubanc> anyone familiar with bad_area_nosemaphore error?
[15:43] <osmosis_paul> llutz, I already change the format of my key with this command ssh-keygen -y -f booster_aws.pem > booster_aws.pub
[15:43] <osmosis_paul>  but still ask me for the password
[15:43] <llutz> osmosis_paul: but "ssh -i .ssh/booster_aws.pem user@host "                  works?
[15:44] <Anomie21> I need to get my PC at home online in order to download build-essentials to compile my wifi drivers. My laptop has an internet connection thru, Is it relatively simple to connect them via a standard ethernet cable?
[15:44] <Tebyghenya> I am a bit lost with aptoncd. I make a .iso. Put it on a USB. Mount the .iso. And now what? install them manually?
[15:44] <osmosis_paul> llutz, yes
[15:44] <leafpile> Any idea why update-manager does not require me to enter my password to update packages?
[15:45] <Utopiah> genii-around: actually lsmod | grep acpi returns thinkpad_acpi
[15:45] <Tebyghenya> osmosis_paul: oh, in a 11.10 without internet I can't. they give me errors or put the INSTALL button on grey
[15:45] <BluesKaj> I have  corrupted /0-.pulse file in my trash , but it won't delete because it's still linked to ~/.pulse . The file has been replaced in /home/user/hiddenfiles after I reinstalled pulse.
[15:46] <genii-around> Utopiah: In cases where the bios is odd, or dates from before 2000, putting acpi=force solves the issue of it not being able to automatically shut down.
[15:46] <osmosis_paul> Tebyghenya, what button? I'm in console and I have 11.10 as well
[15:46] <ozzloy> what if i want to do ecryptfs on an external hard drive instead of ~/Private ?
[15:47] <Tebyghenya> osmosis_paul: I doubleclic them. the doubleclic open the software center
[15:47] <Utopiah> genii-around: ok, any idea why it worked with 11.04 but not with this release?
[15:48] <llutz> osmosis_paul: btw you need the private-key to auth, not the .pub (which has to be added to authorized_keys on remote-site). ssh -i .ssh/booster_aws ...
[15:48] <Tebyghenya> osmosis_paul: how to do it in console?
[15:49] <genii-around> Utopiah: Not particularly.
[15:50] <Anomie21> Do I need a cross-over cable to share internet from a laptop on Win7 to a fresh install on Ubuntu 11.10?
[15:50] <BluesKaj> BBL, stuff to do
[15:50] <llutz> Anomie21: most likely
[15:51] <Utopiah> ok thank you
[15:51] <Anomie21> llutz: I read online somewhere that pretty much all NICs since 2000 are auto-sensing?
[15:52] <llutz> Anomie21: just try it then without
[15:55] <Tebyghenya> How to install a package from console?
[15:55] <llutz> Tebyghenya: sudo apt-get install package. if you have a .deb: sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[15:55] <chuck_> Hi, I want to get a static IP, but my connection is on the eth3
[15:56] <luvshines> histo: found one reference here (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1306333&highlight=copy+external+hdd+slow&page=13) but this one is about karmic
[15:56] <histo> chuck_: are you on a server machine or do you have network manager and a GUI?
[15:56] <luvshines> and has ended as won't fix
[15:56] <Tebyghenya> llutz: that is all?
[15:56] <chuck_> histo: I'm using my laptop as a server, but I have network manager, yes
[15:56] <llutz> Tebyghenya: what did you expect?
[15:57] <histo> chuck_: then turn off dhcp in network manager and specify an IP
[15:57] <Tebyghenya> llutz: something very complex. I am used to work in WIndows.
[15:57] <llutz> cli is no witchery
[15:57] <luvshines> though it points to some external link where someone has give a patch for /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/20-storage-methods.fdi file
[15:57] <luvshines> don't know if this is valid with 10.10 or not :(
[15:58] <chuck_> histo: What to use as DNS servers?
[15:58] <Tebyghenya> llutz: what is the «-i» for?
[15:58] <histo> chuck_: use your ISP provided ones or you can use one of the many free ones such as googles. 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.6.6
[15:58] <llutz> Tebyghenya: -i install  (man dpkg)
[15:59] <usr13> chuck_: He can't tell you that, nameservers are suggested by your ISP.  Your router probably has a caching nameserver on it and will be best to use it.
[15:59] <Tebyghenya> llutz: ok, thanks. This is a real unlimited and free help.
[15:59] <jelly> histo: the latter is 8.8.4.4
[16:00] <histo> chuck_: sorry 8.8.4.4 not 8.8.6.6 for the secondary
[16:00] <histo> jelly: ty
[16:00] <histo> jelly: typing fast didn't even notice
[16:00] <usr13> histo: It depends on what part of the world he is in.
[16:00] <chuck_> histo: Do I have to have a DNS Server?
[16:00] <chuck_> And what is 8.8.4.4?
[16:01] <usr13> chuck_: On your router, yes probably so.
[16:01] <usr13> chuck_: 8.8.4.4 is a nameserver
[16:01] <usr13> chuck_: as is 8.8.4.4  and 4.2.2.2 etc.
[16:02] <usr13> chuck_: But you should use what your ISP suggests.
[16:02] <chuck_> usr13: Thanks! What to type in search domains?
[16:03] <usr13> chuck_: depends on what kind of server it is, but probably best to use loclahost 127.0.0.1
[16:03] <chuck_> usr13: Enough to write localhost?
[16:04] <usr13> chuck_: 127.0.0.1 is loopback interface (to localhost).
[16:04] <chuck_> Require IPv4 adressing for this connection to complete?
[16:04] <usr13> xyes
[16:05] <chuck_> usr13: Now it's setup, how to know if it's working?
[16:05] <usr13> chuck_: host av.com
[16:05] <usr13> chuck_: ping av.com
[16:05] <usr13> chuck_: ping -c3 av.com
[16:06] <chuck_> usr13: Huh?
[16:06] <usr13> chuck_: In other words, try to resolve or ping a known domain name
[16:06] <usr13> chuck_: ping -c3 av.com
[16:08] <chuck_> usr13: Hmm, I think it's working!
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> \0/
[16:11] <sharpK> anyone have experience sharing a printer from Ubuntu (through Samba) with windows clients?
[16:15] <dr_willis> sharpK:  its basically 'just worked' for me. :)
[16:16] <dr_willis> sharpK:  installed samba, gave the user s samba password 'sudo smbpasswd -a username' and i think thats about it.
[16:16] <dr_willis> you can edit the smb.conf file if needed.
[16:16] <sharpK> dr_willis, hmm. I mean, I see the printer from windows, but it says "no driver found", tried reading all kinds of manuals (including the official samba directions for this), changing the conf file a million different ways, but it ain't working for me.
[16:17] <sharpK> you were able to add the printer to devices in windows from the Ubuntu server?
[16:17] <sharpK> without copying driver files and whatnot to a server path from [print$]?
[16:18] <Dougie187> I am having issues getting an ip address through my ethernet port.
[16:18] <Dougie187> I have a 82579LM Intel card, and it worked fine yesterday
[16:19] <dr_willis> sharpK:  i just used the disk that came with the printer.. or windows found them automtaically
[16:19] <dr_willis> i never had to keep the drivers on the server
[16:19] <sharpK> ahh, so you installed the printer drivers on the windows machines seperately, then added it?
[16:19] <Dougie187> Now I'm getting a message like this "<info> (eth0): DHCPv4 state changed nbi -> preinit"
[16:19] <sharpK> or used the drivers windows automatically found while adding the printer?
[16:19] <dr_willis> sharpK:  for most of the printers i got.. they are built in  for me. :) but if it had a disk.. use the disk.
[16:20] <dr_willis> but often windows finds newer drivers online or included then whats on the disk
[16:20] <sharpK> hmm, yeah, I was trying to set it up so that the server would actually provide the drivers as well
[16:20] <apwbdjp> Dougie187, can you connect to the same network from another OS? Or to another network?
[16:20] <sharpK> but alas, my linux-fu is but a sproutling yet... perhaps some other time...
[16:20] <Dougie187> apwbdjp: I have a friend who is connected to the network using the same network cable I tried, and port, on a mac
[16:20] <dr_willis> sharpK:  i never found it worth the effort to do that. If i wanted to i would make a 'downloads' share to keep my printer drivers and other  windows tools in there.
[16:20] <Dougie187> Right now I'm using my phone to tether
[16:21] <dr_willis> sharpK:  given how complex some of these printer 'driver' psckages are for windows.. i found it the easiest way
[16:21] <histo> sharpK: there is a share directory samba creates for print drivers
[16:21] <sharpK> dr_willis, yeah, I guess. There seems to be a whole lot of documentation on doing just that, though. I figured it was just standard, but I kept running into problems
[16:21] <captainjamie> in evolution it says unable to connect to pop server mail.talktalk.net. It was working fine until a few days ago. Any ideas?
[16:21] <dr_willis> copied the installer/disk for the printer to a Downloads Share. ive seen printer 'drivers' that were 300+mb in size.
[16:21] <histo> sharpK: maybe you can add them via the cups interface as welll.
[16:21] <captainjamie> The password is correct...
[16:22] <apwbdjp> Dougie187, did you do something before the problem appeared? Any change at configuration? Installs?
[16:22] <dr_willis> gotta lvoe it when a windows driver includes spamware and other crud.
[16:22] <Dougie187> apwbdjp: nope. I just came in to work this morning.
[16:22] <sharpK> histo: that's what I tried, but  nothing seemed to work correctly. Then again, I am sure I made a slew of mistakes, and I can barely navigate aorund the terminal with some of the more robust guides on hosting drivers on the samba server
[16:22] <craigbass1976> What in the world mght be going on here.  If I ssh out to a box, then ssh back to my public ip, I get pointed at this laptop.  My router is pointing 22 at a totally different box, and has never been pointing at this laptop.  Meh?  If I try to ssh out (putty) from a windows box, then ssh back in, connection times out.
[16:22] <sovzed> how can i create a launcher from the desktop?
[16:22] <Dougie187> I thought my network cable was bad, because my desk was sitting on it, but changing it didn't help. And none of them work now.
[16:22] <llutz> captainjamie: nmap -p110 mail.talktalk.net
[16:23] <histo> sharpK: is the print drivers share even showing up?
[16:23] <captainjamie> llutz: is that a terminal command?
[16:23] <llutz> captainjamie: yes, it shows no open pop3 port here...
[16:23] <apwbdjp> captainjamie, yes it is
[16:24] <histo> sharpK: for instance if I browse to my linux server running samba I see a $print share
[16:24] <histo> sharpK: this is from another linux box ofcourse
[16:24] <sharpK> histo: what do you mean? the print drive folder on the samba server (ubuntu)
[16:24] <sharpK> histo: really?
[16:24] <sharpK> histo: like, a folder at the \\Server address?
[16:24] <sharpK> oh
[16:24] <sharpK> I am using windows boxes as clientgs
[16:24] <histo> sharpK: inside of that folder is w32x86 x64 etc... folders where drivers would go
[16:24] <llutz> captainjamie: so ask isp-/provider for support, maybe they changed hostname
[16:24] <sharpK> *clients
[16:24] <histo> sharpK: they don't see those folders
[16:25] <histo> sharpK: if you look at your smb.conf you will see the $print share I believe
[16:25] <sharpK> yeah
[16:25] <sharpK> I've tried all kinds of settings for it
[16:25] <captainjamie> llutz: They have just merged with tiscaly I think...
[16:25] <sharpK> I changed the folder to a cups directory of some sort
[16:25] <Dougie187> apwbdjp: Here is a pastebin of my syslog http://pastebin.com/KNvL4RpS
[16:25] <sharpK> and copied the windows drivers to it (though I couldn't find the 32 drivers, I seemed to only have x64)
[16:25] <sovzed> i'm trying to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToAddaLauncher but i never get the option add to panel when rightclicking
[16:26] <Exopaladin>  /win 13
[16:26] <Exopaladin> Erk
[16:26] <histo> sharpK: belive the default place will be in /var/lib/samba/printers
[16:27] <sharpK> for me it was /etc/samba/printers
[16:27] <sharpK> for some reason
[16:27] <sharpK> (11.10)
[16:27] <histo> sharpK: this is on my debian server so yours may vary
[16:27] <sharpK> yeah
[16:27] <sharpK> histo: but that folder didn't exist for me
[16:27] <sharpK> histo: that there was an etc/samba, but no drivers folder
[16:27] <histo> sharpK: does /var/lib/samba/printers exist?
[16:28] <tomek_> hi
[16:28] <tomek_> any programmers here?
[16:28] <_jason> tomek_: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[16:28] <llutz> captainjamie: open a terminal and try: "telnet mail.talktalk.net 110"   if there comes an "OK", "USER <yourmailusername>"  on "OK" "PASS <yourmailpassword>" "list"
[16:28] <sharpK> histo: yeah, it actually does
[16:28] <histo> sharpK: I would ignore the howto and use the example int he smb.conf
[16:28] <sharpK> histo: and ther is an w32x86 and x64 folders
[16:28] <histo> sharpK: unless ubuntu changed that as well
[16:28] <tomek_> anyone uses python?
[16:29] <histo> There is a reason I won't use ubuntu on a server
[16:29] <_jason> tomek_: just ask your real question, but if you have a python programming question and not an ubuntu support question, please ask in #python
[16:29] <histo> !anyone | tomek_
[16:29] <sharpK> histo: wow, so, okay, so I should change the [print$] path to the var/lib/samba/printers?
[16:29] <Don_Rad> hi all im using ubuntu 11.10, how can i change the defaulti file browser from nautilus to marlin, any help ?????
[16:30] <sharpK> histo: and just copy over the driver files into the corresponding folders (w32x86 and x64)
[16:30] <sharpK> ?
[16:30] <histo> sharpK: try using that yes.
[16:30] <histo> sharpK: maybe somehting got messed when you created the ../printers folder . Permissions etc...
[16:30] <histo> sharpK: that was the way it was meant to be. No idea why someone would change that but whatever.
[16:33] <sharpK> dang, nothing yet
[16:33] <nickson75> anyone here have Roku stream player ?
[16:34] <sharpK> histo: can you pastebin me your smc.conf?
[16:34] <sharpK> *smb
[16:35] <urthmover> how do I remove the boot screen in ubuntu and see the regular linux boot sequence?
[16:36] <usr13> urthmover: the   Esc  key
[16:36] <urthmover> usr13: and if I want it permanently that way?
[16:36] <usr13> urthmover: Well, don't know about that. Good question.
[16:36] <histo> sharpK: yeah give me a sec
[16:36] <llutz> urthmover: edit /etc/default/grub, remove "quiet splash" and run sudo update-grub
[16:36] <sharpK> histo: thanks
[16:37] <urthmover> ah llutz I'll try that right now  thanks to you both
[16:38] <usr13> urthmover:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[16:38] <dr_willis> My grub2 plays a tune when it boots. :)
[16:38] <Don_Rad> hi all im using ubuntu 11.10, how can i change the defaulti file browser from nautilus to marlin, any help ?????
[16:38] <histo> sharpK: http://pastebin.com/j5AqsWj6
[16:38] <dr_willis> #for the "Close Encounters" greeting message
[16:38] <dr_willis> GRUB_INIT_TUNE="480 900 2 1000 2 800 2 400 2 600 3"
[16:39] <usr13> dr_willis: cool
[16:39] <dr_willis> Don_Rad:  i saw a guide/howto on marlin on the omgubuntu web site the other day.. no idea if it mentioned doing that or not.
[16:39] <sharpK> histo: thanks, I'll try to see if I can get something going using yours as a reference
[16:40] <sharpK> histo: and just to make sure, in your /var/lib/samba/printers/x64, you have those 4 PS files? (PS5UI.dll, PSCRIPT.HLP, PSCRIPT.NTF, PSCRIPT5.dll)?
[16:41] <histo> sharpK: I have nothing in mine
[16:42] <sharpK> histo: no driver files at all? hmm
[16:42] <histo> sharpK: I haven't added any x64 drivers or anything
[16:42] <dr_willis> im glad i finally got a stand alone networked printer. :)
[16:42] <sharpK> histo: in the W32X86 folder? are there drivers there?
[16:42] <apwbdjp> Don_Rad, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DefaultFileManager
[16:43] <histo> sharpK: I'm not using this feature on this box currently
[16:44] <sharpK> histo: I see...
[16:45] <Don_Rad> thanks
[16:45] <histo> sharpK: however if you place your driver int he appropriate folder the windows boxes should be able to pull the drivers from there
[16:46] <sharpK> histo: that's what I hoped, and I put the x64 drivers in both the folders, but still didn't work, might be the wrong drivers or something, guess I better google around a bit
[16:47] <auronandace> sharpK: what you tying to do?
[16:48] <sharpK> auronandace: share windows drivers from a samba printer share box (linux)...
[16:48] <auronandace> sharpK: oh, just curious
[16:48] <SolarisBoy> is anyone aware of a way to make find command not print ./ before directories?
[16:50] <urthmover> What is the package called that ubuntu-server uses to show the system information on the command line?  I've asked in ubuntu-server already, but folks must be busy.
[16:51] <Mooloo> anyone know where to look to set the unity launcher autohide delay to 0?
[16:51] <_jason> urthmover: combination of update-motd and landscape
[16:51] <usr13> dr_willis: Yea, I got a network printer about a year ago, sure simplifies things.
[16:51] <urthmover> _jason: ok thanks I'll look there
[16:51] <sanitypassing> HOW can I reset the X configuration file?
[16:51] <auronandace> SolarisBoy: if its not in man find then i doubt you can
[16:51] <SolarisBoy> yea thought maybe i could get lucky here =(
[16:52] <SolarisBoy> im going to have to pipe into perl or sed or the likes
[16:52] <SolarisBoy> makes my life more hard heh
[16:54] <VictorCL> what's  /dev/null ?
[16:54] <sanitypassing> I actidentially removed Unity from ubuntu (I know, I'm an idiot). How can reinstall it?
[16:55] <auronandace> VictorCL: a type of black hole, you send stuff you don't want anymore into it
[16:55] <novacaine_> hey, i'm looking for a video broadcasting software, i need to broadcast a video of a conference in some other rooms, do you know any name?
[16:56] <sovzed> how do i create a launcher from the desktop? if i rightclick i can only create new files or folders
[16:57] <SolarisBoy> auronandace: find . -type f -newer new_file |perl -pe 's/^\.\///g;' | xargs -I{} cp -v -p --parents "{}" ../directory_move/  ||| how horrible is that one hahahaha
[16:57] <llutz> SolarisBoy: find whatever xxx  |sed 's:^./::'
[16:57] <VictorCL> can I do   on  crontab       " */30 * * * * wget http://url/script.php -O /dev/null "       ????
[16:59] <hasufell> sovzed: dont know, but menu entries can be specified in /home/user/.local/share/applications
[16:59] <luis_> Novacaine: Try this:  http://goalbit.sourceforge.net/
[16:59] <bagoor> What's the replacement of usplash in Oneiric? I installed xubuntu-desktop package and it changed the Boot Splash to Xubuntu and I want to replace the Boot Splash to Ubuntu again.
[16:59] <hasufell> sovzed: you can link the .desktop files then to your Desktop-directory
[17:00] <auronandace> bagoor: you thinking of plymouth?
[17:00] <dr_willis> !plymouth | bagoor
[17:00] <dr_willis> sovzed:  make a .desktop file that launches what you like. theres dozens of them on your system for examples.. (is one way)
[17:00] <bagoor> auronandace, dr_willis: thanks
[17:01] <sovzed> dr_willis: what i want is to create a shortcut in the desktop, so when i want to use an app, i just doubleclick.
[17:02] <milen8204> I have a bit problem whit app windows, I cant move them whit the mouse, anyone can help ?
[17:03] <dr_willis> sovzed:  yes.. a proper .desktop file will let you do that.. what is the app you want? why not just  pin it to the panel>?
[17:03] <sanitypassing> Okay, I seem to have totally ruined my installation.
[17:04] <sovzed> dr_willis: chrome
[17:04] <sanitypassing> can I do sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop to fix the damned thing?
[17:04] <kdog> I tried out openbox on my 11.10 machine and then removed it. Now, my workspaces don't work. I've fiddled with the CCSM settings but I still can't get it to work. Any ideas?
[17:04] <auronandace> sanitypassing: thats nice dear, time to reinstall, yay!
[17:05] <sovzed> dr_willis: id like to put it on the desktop because the panel is horrible, u cant even chose the order of the apps there
[17:05] <sanitypassing> auronandace: I actidentially removed Unity (I'm an idiot...), and then I screwed up X when I tried to enable my second monitor. D:
[17:05] <sovzed> ill brb
[17:06] <MontyCarleau> Hey all - I have a box with three hard disks, but as I write to disk2, Ubuntu tells me that my disk is full, apparently summing the usage between disks 1 and 2 - even though I'm writing to disk2 and du shows me 500GB unused.  Any ideas?
[17:06] <auronandace> sanitypassing: i don't use unity (i prefer xfce)
[17:06] <auronandace> sanitypassing: i've heard that unity has problems with more than one screen
[17:06] <sanitypassing> auronandace: I don't like Unity as well, but the "GNOME Classic" options isn't much better.
[17:06] <dr_willis> sovzed:  err.. you can rearange the icons on the panel....
[17:06] <llutz> MontyCarleau: df -h /tmp
[17:06] <geoffmcc> sovzed: i use gnome-desktop-item-edit fond in gnome-panel to add desktop shortcuts
[17:07] <dr_willis> isent it shift-click/drag to move the items on the panel? i forget.
[17:07] <apwbdjp> MontyCarleau, Ubuntu says space is missing on the disk mounted at /, which one is that?
[17:07] <sanitypassing> Argh./
[17:07] <geoffmcc> dr_willis: im pretty sure it just click hold and drag
[17:07] <auronandace> sanitypassing: give xfce or lxde a try, you might like them
[17:07] <MontyCarleau> apwbdjp: / is disk1, disks 2 and 3 are mounted manually and found in /media
[17:07] <llutz> MontyCarleau: "df -h /tmp"  say what?
[17:07] <dr_willis> Im on a headless server. :) so i havent used unity in some weeks
[17:07] <sanitypassing> auronandace: I've tried 'em, a while a go. I wasn't a fan.
[17:08] <sanitypassing> Still...
[17:08] <apwbdjp> MontyCarleau, is it full?
[17:08] <sanitypassing> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop?
[17:08] <dr_willis> sanitypassing:  or lubuntu-desktop
[17:08] <dr_willis> depending on how old skool you want to get :)
[17:08] <sanitypassing> Not too much, I'm afraid.
[17:08] <MontyCarleau> llutz: Avail: 80G Use% 69%
[17:09] <sanitypassing> I do hope that it fixes the issue with my damned monitor
[17:09]  * dr_willis finds the desktop he uses.. dosent really matter much..
[17:09] <sanitypassing> I was able to enable it well enough, but now I have no panels!
[17:09] <dr_willis> sanitypassing:  what was the original issue?
[17:10] <auronandace> sanitypassing: thats more of a graphics card issue than a desktop one
[17:10] <llutz> MontyCarleau: pastebin please the output of "df -h"
[17:10] <Bisu[Shield]> !!I am running ubuntu 11.10 gnome 3, is there a calendar reminder utility? Currently I can see my calendar at the top middle when I click on the date but I dont get any reminders.
[17:10] <llutz> !paste | MontyCarleau
[17:10] <sanitypassing> I removed Unity, but the screen issue is unrelated.
[17:10] <apwbdjp> Gotta go! Later
[17:10] <Bisu[Shield]> I am running ubuntu 11.10 gnome 3, is there a calendar reminder utility? Currently I can see my calendar at the top middle when I click on the date but I dont get any reminders.
[17:10] <sanitypassing> I attempted to enable the second monitor through the NVIDIA control panel, and when I restarted X, there we no panels.
[17:10] <dr_willis> Bisu[Shield]:  you could try the google widgits if you use google calander. not sure of others...
[17:10] <sanitypassing> I can open windows, but without the panels, I can't do much
[17:11] <auronandace> sanitypassing: can't you just add new panels
[17:11] <Bisu[Shield]> my browser is usually closed
[17:11] <dr_willis> sanitypassing:  cant say ive heard of that issue.  i wonder if they crashed.. or some how hidden off screen.
[17:11] <sanitypassing> auronandace: if I knew how, maybe.
[17:12] <auronandace> sanitypassing: i know how in xfce :)
[17:12] <dr_willis> Bisu[Shield]:  google has gadgets/widgits for your desktop.   in their google-gadgets thing.
[17:12] <sanitypassing> Hmm.
[17:12] <sanitypassing> I'm attempting to restore the xorg.conf file from what should be a backup before I actidentially the whole thing.
[17:12] <amirwebdev2> any1 have exprience with ec2 amazon cloud host? i try to setup the httpd its not working
[17:12] <dr_willis> sanitypassing:  try a 'unity --replace' or 'unity --reset'   on my nvidia system. the default xorg.conf is well... empty . if im not using twinview.
[17:13] <milen8204> hello guys i can add gadgets on panel I use gnome3 on Ubuntu 11.10 , alt+click does not work what can I do?
[17:13] <dr_willis> sanitypassing:  i can pastebin mine if you need an example. but it is most likely not totally correct for yoru setup
[17:13] <sanitypassing> Whoa, something is happening.
[17:13] <sanitypassing> Uh.
[17:13] <dr_willis> sanitypassing:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/753679/  is mine if you need one..
[17:14] <sanitypassing> My windows are gone?
[17:14] <sanitypassing> AH!
[17:14] <sanitypassing> Unity!
[17:14] <dr_willis> sanitypassing:  the reset/replace worked?
[17:14] <sanitypassing> I believe it may have
[17:14] <VictorCL> all these command you run on terminal , are available on mac OS aswell?
[17:14] <dr_willis> i wonder if it was confused about the positioning, so it crashed the first time..
[17:15] <dr_willis> VictorCL:  depends..  os-x is 'bsd' not 'linux' but most should work.
[17:15] <dr_willis> VictorCL:  theres command line guides out for os-x as well.
[17:15] <auronandace> VictorCL: not all, but mac osx is unix-like
[17:15] <VictorCL> ok
[17:15] <dr_willis> VictorCL:  watch out for Differnt CaSe LeTTeRs In FiLes.  os-x handles them differntly then linux
[17:15] <sanitypassing> Ok...
[17:16] <sanitypassing> I disabled the second monitor
[17:16] <SolarisBoy> llutz: thanks.. mines works as well for my requirement
[17:16] <sanitypassing> let's pray this works...
[17:16] <SolarisBoy> need to copy a list of files (based on some conditions) keeping directory structure to a new location
[17:16] <dr_willis> sanitypassing:  ive heard of some quirks with unity and multi-monitor support.. havent really tried it recently.
[17:16] <sanitypassing> not a big issue I guess.
[17:17] <MontyCarleau> llutz: Sorry for the delay - I'm chatting on a different machine and the problematic machine is thrashing.
[17:17] <sanitypassing> I'm only running Ubuntu until the end of December anyways
[17:17] <VictorCL> well  mac notebooks are  so expensive xD with 1200€ I could buy an ultranotebook and a good desktop
[17:18] <TheLifelessOne> Yay, my ssh session!
[17:18] <sanitypassing> <3
[17:18] <sanitypassing> Well thanks for the help guys!
[17:18] <TheLifelessOne> I appreciate it. :)
[17:19] <VictorCL> when there is a linux distro with a similar nice mac like interface .. it will be all you need :)
[17:19] <auronandace> VictorCL: not for me... haha
[17:21] <Zitter> hi, archive.ubuntu.com doesn't work? 404 not found at 91.189.92.180 I need pkgs for haunty
[17:21] <Zitter> *jaunty
[17:21] <TheLifelessOne> how can I configure unity?
[17:21] <_jason> !jaunty | Zitter
[17:21] <Yancho_> guys, i am having problems getting my tvtuner to work. this is my dmsg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/753854/ and each frequency in tvtime-scanner is giving : Checking 948.25 MHz:videoinput: Driver refuses to stop streaming: Invalid argument .. this is my lspci : http://paste.ubuntu.com/753856/ and this is my lsmod: http://paste.ubuntu.com/753858/ .. this is modinfo on the particular chip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/753860/ - any idea from where i can start p
[17:21] <Yancho_> lease?
[17:21] <auronandace> Zitter: it is no longer supported here
[17:21] <Zitter> ah,
[17:22] <Zitter> !upgrade
[17:22] <auronandace> Zitter: can't you use a more recent release?
[17:22] <Jordan_U> !eof | Zitter
[17:22] <Jordan_U> !eol | Zitter
[17:22] <Zitter> auronandace, yes sorry, it's not my EEEpc. I found that here ;)
[17:23] <VictorCL> To connect to site.com insecurely, use `--no-check-certificate'.
[17:23] <VictorCL> where doI Put that?
[17:23] <auronandace> Zitter: you'd be better off installing afresh instead of upgrading
[17:23] <VictorCL> wget --no-check-certificate -O  site.com
[17:23] <VictorCL> lke that ?
[17:23] <auronandace> Zitter: 10.04 or 11.10 are the best choices
[17:24] <Zitter> auronandace, mmm.... it's a problem. Anyway here there is an eeebuntu distro so i'm partially off topic here.
[17:26] <dr_willis> VictorCL:  that looks about right.
[17:29] <fellayaboy> what program can i use to put a background picture in my resume and convert it to pdf format?  i tried openoffice but it wouldnt let me add a background image respectfully
[17:30] <Shirakawasuna> it's not user-friendly unless you already know how to use it, but LaTeX can produce that kind of thing, fellayaboy
[17:30] <fellayaboy> thanks
[17:31] <Shirakawasuna> fellayaboy: also have you tried this? http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=5143
[17:31] <Shirakawasuna> it's probably easiest to load your image, size it to the document, then set it position and wrap to 'background'
[17:32] <VictorCL> when is ubuntu 12 coming up?
[17:32] <Kiall> VictorCL: the same as always ;)
[17:32] <Kiall> 12.04 will be out in April (the 4th month) of 2012
[17:32] <Jax> so i found a windows machine and made myself a USB Stick with persistence. Now when i Try to boot it i get: SYSLINUX 4.04….. ERROR: No configuration file found. No DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found! boot:
[17:32] <Jax> any idea about that one?
[17:33] <ania> hi all
[17:33] <ania> please to meet you
[17:33] <Jax> i made the stick with the Universal USB Installer 1.8.6.4 as recommended on the ubuntu site
[17:34] <fellayaboy> Shirakawasuna, i did thanks...
[17:35] <me-1> hi...can I see all apps in same place . For example how can I see all installed games..?
[17:35] <ania> anybody here ati radeon hd3650?
[17:36] <Klojum> what is your question, ania?
[17:37] <sovzed> does this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToAddaLauncher tut, apply to 11.10 ? I am unable to create a launcher
[17:37] <ania> can manage to check ati moblitity graphic temperature....??
[17:37] <ania> cant
[17:37] <M3AN3> i believe it do
[17:40] <godofmischief> good late morning all my nix peeps
[17:42] <geoffmcc> ania: check out the package lm-sensors
[17:44] <sovzed> does this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToAddaLauncher tut, apply to 11.10 ? I am unable to create a launcher
[17:45] <uggla> Hello! I'm trying to make a script that uses the first command variable ($1) as a filter to show files in current dir. I cant manage it to work, anyone able to help me?
[17:45] <dr_willis> sovzed: http://askubuntu.com/questions/64222/how-can-i-create-launchers-on-my-desktop
[17:46] <tradakeolac> ls
[17:46] <tradakeolac> time out
[17:46] <dr_willis> !abs | uggla
[17:47] <nardev> When i try to open any "bookmarked" location from "Custom menu bar" it tries to open it with VLS media player. How can i change that? where is location of "custom menu bar" config file?
[17:48] <dr_willis> whats 'custom menu bar' ?
[17:49] <Yancho_> anyone can hint me about my problem pelase?
[17:50] <Klojum> How can I remove the option to "Hibernate" from the system menu items on the right? I'm running 11.10 from an SSD, and hibernating is not an healthy option for ssd drives.
[17:50] <sovzed> dr_willis: i'm not on gnome
[17:50] <dr_willis> sovzed:  making the desktop entry would work for most all the desktops enviroments.
[17:52] <nardev> dr_willis, it's [Applications Places System] menu bar like one in gnome2
[17:52] <BluesKaj> Yancho_, what problem ?
[17:52] <Yancho_> guys, i am having problems getting my tvtuner to work. this is my dmsg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/753854/ and each frequency in tvtime-scanner is giving : Checking 948.25 MHz:videoinput: Driver refuses to stop streaming: Invalid argument .. this is my lspci : http://paste.ubuntu.com/753856/ and this is my lsmod: http://paste.ubuntu.com/753858/ .. this is modinfo on the particular chip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/753860/ - any idea from where i can start p
[17:52] <Yancho_> lease?
[17:53] <sovzed> dr_willis: i have to alt+f2 and then copy gnome-desktop-item-edit --create-new ~/Desktop, right? because this wont do anything
[17:53] <dr_willis> sovzed:  cd /usr/share/applications/, then copy any of the *.desktop files to your desktop, then edit it as needed
[17:54] <geoffmcc> sovzed: you first need gnome-panel for that command to work
[17:54] <geoffmcc> sovzed: i set mine up using apt-get install --no-install-recommends gnome-panel
[17:54] <dr_willis> askubuntu url said.. gnome-desktop-item-edit is installed automatically if you have installed gnome-shell/gnome-fallback. It is also installed automatically if you have previously installed gnome-tweak-tool.
[17:55] <sovzed> geoffmcc: yes i also installed it but it wont make any difference
[17:55] <dr_willis> sovzed:  what wont make any differance? you need to give us some more details...
[17:55] <sovzed> and overall i dont know what am i doing at all, why did they need to remove that option really
[17:55] <dr_willis> a launcher is basically a whatever.desktop file with the right info in the file.
[17:56] <dr_willis> sovzed:  cd /usr/share/applications/, then copy any of the *.desktop files to your desktop, then edit it as needed  - will make a launcher for whatever it is you want.. what IS it you are wanting to put on the desktop?
[17:56] <sovzed> dr_willis: i dont know in which order do i have to do all those things, i installed the gnome panel so i can alt+f2 and copy that line that should pop up what i want, but it doesnt
[17:57] <sovzed> i want to make a launcher that starts xampp
[17:57] <sovzed> well, lamp
[17:58] <dr_willis> err.. thats not a gui app.. so what you really need is a shell script  i belive...
[17:58] <dr_willis> and if you install theose services.. i thought they auto started by default.
[17:59] <dr_willis> you know what commands you are using to 'start lamp' ?
[18:00] <sovzed> dr_willis: http://robersoft.blogcindario.com/2011/09/00023-arrancar-detener-xampp-desde-terminal-panel-de-control-xampp-al-iniciar-linux.html u might not understand what it says but u will recognize that create launcher pop up...thats what i want to do...
[18:00] <sovzed> dr_willis: sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start
[18:00] <sovzed> i just want an icon on the desktop that executes that
[18:00] <BluesKaj> Yancho_, all those pastes doesn't really describe what is happening if we don't have a reference as to what is and is not working with your tvtuner.
[18:02] <Yancho_> BluesKaj, the problem is that mythtv is not vidning the tuner
[18:02] <geoffmcc> sovzed: i think you may need to do what he prev suggested and take a look at /usr/share/applications to see how to create the file manually, just wondering though, if you type gnome- in shell and tab for auto complete is one of the options gnome-desktop-item-edit there?
[18:02] <flacco> join #learch
[18:02] <K3rmit> can someone help I'm having a hard time booting into ubuntu 11.10 . It starts loading everything and then gets stuck...
[18:03] <sovzed> geoffmcc: yes it is. i tried to do what he suggested but im not sure of how to edit it
[18:03] <BluesKaj> Yancho_, ok which tuner , pinnacle ?
[18:03] <geoffmcc> sovzed: well you dont want to edit any of those files, you want to use it as a template on how to make your own.
[18:04] <Yancho_> http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-T_PCI_Cards#Medion ctx918  this
[18:04] <sovzed> geoffmcc: ok now i got it, needed that desktop-item-edit :D
[18:04] <geoffmcc> sovzed: you got it to pop up for you now
[18:05] <dr_willis> running lamp and dont know the basics of editing a text file? thats.. weird...
[18:06] <geoffmcc> right
[18:06] <theadmin> dr_willis: You know, I heard of a person who was editing /boot/grub/menu.lst with oowriter
[18:06] <dr_willis> if you want your lamp to start at boot time.. you should be putting that commands in /etc/rc.local
[18:06] <dr_willis> theadmin:  thats windows training for ya...
[18:06] <dr_willis> 'this text file is too big.. open in ms-write?' :)
[18:07] <theadmin> dr_willis: Really? That happens?
[18:07] <theadmin> dr_willis: I dunno lol I don't use notepad, I use vim (even on Windows)
[18:07] <dr_willis> theadmin:  ages ago it used to... when you tried to use notepad.exe on a file bigger then like 64k
[18:07] <c[_]> Banshee wont play any song ive disabled the sound menu on it and rebootsd
[18:07] <c[_]> rebooted*
[18:07] <dr_willis> Night all.....
[18:08] <geoffmcc> ta ta
[18:09] <sovzed> geoffmcc: ok, it worked... but it pops up a terminal asking for my password, cant i just avoid that?
[18:10] <Mias> hi
[18:10] <K3rmit> so after upgrading my ubuntu 11.10 gets stuck here: http://screencast.com/t/82lapaIA
[18:11] <geoffmcc> sovzed: when is it asking for password?
[18:11] <Yancho_> BluesKaj, it is supposed to be supported ey ?
[18:11] <BluesKaj> Yancho_, is mythtv absolutely necessary , or would an app like tvtime fill your needs ..it's very good at detecting and loading kernel modules/drivers for most tvcards for
[18:12] <Yancho_> i am trying also tvtime - heard it is much easier to detect staff
[18:13] <c[_]> anyone?
[18:13] <BluesKaj> Yancho_, depends how you want use the tvtuner I guess '
[18:14] <Yancho_> for the time beign i just want to make sure all hardware is up and running
[18:15] <odysseus55> Hello. Where can I find an ISO for 2.6.32-24-generic (server)?
[18:16] <Pici> odysseus55: lucid (10.04) shipped with 2.6.32-21 but has been updated to 2.6.32-35 since.
[18:17] <Pici> odysseus55: You can find the isos here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/
[18:17] <odysseus55> Thank you Pici
[18:17] <odysseus55> I have adaptec raid card that requires that exact kernel
[18:17] <Yancho_> tvtime-scanner didnt give find any channels either BluesKaj
[18:18] <clear> what extra information should I add to my thread to get the best results? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1888298
[18:18] <clear> results = replies
[18:18] <SolarisBoy> kittens always get good results
[18:18] <SolarisBoy> i would go there if there were a kitten on top
[18:18] <paulotruta> lol
[18:18] <SolarisBoy> =)
[18:20]  * Sidewinder1 Sighs, here go the floodbots, again.. :-(
[18:20] <Pici> Sidewinder1: we're always monitoring them, they just get a bit confused sometimes.
[18:21] <Mias>  /ignore #ubuntu JOINS PARTS QUITs modes
[18:21] <Sidewinder1> Pici, Confused or recalcitrant?
[18:21] <Sidewinder1> :D
[18:21] <Pici> Sidewinder1: both
[18:22] <maestrojed> I have an Ubuntu box that seems hosed, I need to debug or recover. Is there a safe mode? I tried F4 but that didn't seem to work. If I make a CD to boot from to investigate whats wrong with the ubuntu install on the HD, do I use the live cd iso? a typical ubuntu download iso?
[18:22] <superos> The halt command does not power off my laptop or my Desktop computer in 11.10. Is this a known bug in 11.10?
[18:23] <mkanyicy> superos, use 'sudo poweroff'
[18:23] <mkanyicy> maestrojed, if the boot menu (grub) does show up, select recovery mode
[18:23] <FishEee> think a 30GB SSD is enough for ubuntu?
[18:24] <Sidewinder1> Pici, In the "old days" a good implementation of the cat-0-nine-tails to them, from time to time might prove beneficial; no more 'ot' form me.. :-)
[18:24] <mkanyicy> maestrojed, if not, then yes, burn the iso to disc and boot from it and try recovering
[18:24] <auronandace> FishEee: yes
[18:24] <mkanyicy> FishEee, ja
[18:24] <Sidewinder1> from, even.
[18:24] <maestrojed> mkanyicy how to you get to grub?
[18:24] <maestrojed> I guess I can google that
[18:25] <FishEee> can you pick to install applications on it but others on regular HD?
[18:25] <Hukka> Ok, I think I'm having some problems with the new multiarch system... mainly wine doesn't work very well and the people over there think it might be a problem with 32 bit drivers. How can I install them properly (I'm using the radeon driver)?
[18:25] <mkanyicy> maestrojed, it is the boot menu when you boot (unless you dont dual boot)
[18:25] <mkanyicy> !grub | maestrojed
[18:25] <mkanyicy> !boot
[18:26] <auronandace> FishEee: what? an ssd install is exactly like a hdd install
[18:26] <blognewb> hi guys can someone provide a link for w7 versus ubuntu11.1 benchmark comparison?
[18:26] <superos> mkanyicy: I will try poweroff, but still weird that the command I've been using for years do not work as expected anymore.
[18:27] <superos> mkanyicy: ty
[18:27] <mkanyicy> auronandace, FishEee  is asking if you can install for example GIMP on the HDD and Amarok on the SSD
[18:27] <FishEee> yes
[18:27] <FishEee> what he said
[18:27] <clear> what extra information should I add to my thread to get the best replies? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1888298
[18:27] <mkanyicy> FishEee, I think it would be quite tricky
[18:28] <mkanyicy> FishEee, so the easy answer is no
[18:28] <blognewb> This one does not look too good for ubuntu: http://tuxradar.com/content/benchmarked-ubuntu-vs-vista-vs-windows-7
[18:28] <FishEee> only more install something like eclipse on SSD and everything else on HDD
[18:28] <FishEee> 30GB might be enough for everything anyway
[18:28] <FishEee> ?
[18:29] <mkanyicy> FishEee, depends on what you want to do with your HDD and SSD
[18:30] <mkanyicy> FishEee, if you dedicate the /usr directory to a separate partition then you can achieve a portion of what you want
[18:30] <mkanyicy> superos, actually I have the same problem as you too
[18:30] <mkanyicy> superos, and I came here a couple of weeks ago
[18:31] <maestrojed> I am trying to boot to grub. I am holding down shift during the boot. The OS is booted as I can SSH into it. But not graphics, and a lot of stuff is not working
[18:31] <maestrojed> grub never loads
[18:31] <mkanyicy> superos, and I was told by another gentleperson that 'halt' is only guaranteed to halt the kernel not including powering down the machine
[18:32] <K3rmit> someone pleasse help
[18:32] <mkanyicy> superos, and that the fact that it used to work before does not mean it is how it was supposed to work, all along
[18:32] <onesadlittleboy_> hey there, can anyone help me with recovering lost files?
[18:32] <mkanyicy> K3rmit, whats the problem?
[18:33] <mkanyicy> !undelete | onesadlittleboy_
[18:33] <K3rmit> mkanyicy After upgrading my ubuntu 11.10 gets stuck here on bootup: http://screencast.com/t/82lapaIA
[18:33] <eoydex> quit
[18:33] <K3rmit> mkanyicy I can get into recovery console, but don't know what the problem is...
[18:34] <K3rmit> mkanyicy I can hint you though that I reset the system while it was upgrading...
[18:34] <luist> hey can i use debmirror on a suse server?
[18:34] <scottj> I'm going to be using various insecure wifis this next week, is there a way to forward all my network traffic (not just browser) through a box I have ssh access to?
[18:34] <superos> mkanyicy: Interesting. Still a lot of people relied on it powering your box off. Wonder if this is related to the new 3 kernel.
[18:34] <scottj> (and does that make my traffic secure?)
[18:34] <daniyal> yup
[18:35] <onesadlittleboy_> well, my problem is that foremost isn't working for me even though it did before this morning
[18:35] <sovzed> geoffmcc: i managed to do that launcher but now i cant get the icon tho show properly, i added the icon to /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/ but it might be that the launcher doesnt have permission to read it?
[18:35] <auronandace> K3rmit: then you've probably broken it
[18:35] <MeQuerSat> luist, SuSe doesn't use deb packages, but rpm packages
[18:35] <scottj> daniyal: was that to me?
[18:35] <K3rmit> auronandace how can I fix it
[18:35] <luist> MeQuerSat: i know… but i need to make an ubuntu mirror on the suse server
[18:35] <mkanyicy> superos, i realied heavily on it, when i was told to run 'sudo shutdown now' i argued that that is a lot of characters to type
[18:36] <auronandace> K3rmit: reinstall
[18:36] <superos> mkanyicy: :-)
[18:36] <K3rmit> auronandace but I have a lot of work on there
[18:36] <auronandace> K3rmit: then recover the work
[18:36] <auronandace> K3rmit: mount the partition and backup what you need
[18:36] <MeQuerSat> luist, create your own mirror? Thats probably possible
[18:37] <luist> MeQuerSat: yes but i want just 10.04
[18:37] <K3rmit> auronandace lest I forget something!
[18:37] <Pici> luist: Thats not something that we can provide support for, try #suse
[18:37] <MeQuerSat> luist: any reason not to just use an official 10.04 mirror?
[18:37] <luist> Pici: they dont know… im accepting other ways to make a 10.04 mirror
[18:37] <mkanyicy> K3rmit, but before you try to re-install as auronandace is suggesting, try to reconfigure your system
[18:37] <luist> MeQuerSat: yes… a local mirror is much faster
[18:37] <maestrojed> I am trying to figure out what happened to my ubuntu box. 1 of many issues that happened over night is that the HD is 100% full. I am fairly certain that this was not do to us adding files. It was either an exploit or out of control log file, or something. I can SSH in but not GUI. How can I investigate what's taking up so much HD space using the CLI?
[18:38] <K3rmit> mkanyicy how, what you mean?
[18:38] <MeQuerSat> luist: Its pretty easy to setup a mirror
[18:38] <auronandace> mkanyicy: he restarted in the middle of an upgrade, how does he fix that?
[18:38] <MeQuerSat> luist: just rsync the closest official mirror
[18:38] <SolarisBoy> maestrojed: you can use commands like find, ls, du , df to locate the issue
[18:38] <luist> MeQuerSat: not really… i need just 10.04
[18:38] <milen8204> hello all, can I ask something about Ubuntu 11.10 app windows ?
[18:38] <SolarisBoy> find takes many arguments and would like suggice maestrojed:
[18:38] <aeon-ltd> milen8204: yes go ahead
[18:38] <onesadlittleboy_> so nobody can help me? :<
[18:38] <MeQuerSat> luist: just rsync the 10.04 directory from it then
[18:39] <maestrojed> SolarisBoy ok, I will look into those
[18:39] <mkanyicy> auronandace, if you already downloaded the applications and was busy installing them there is a way to continue that
[18:39] <SolarisBoy> maestrojed: for instance `find /var -mtime -2 -size +1000K` would find large files under /var younger than 2 days , and over 1 MB
[18:39] <milen8204> aeon-ltd, I can move the app windows whit the mouse
[18:39] <SolarisBoy> maestrojed: sure thing
[18:39] <luist> MeQuerSat: the packages from all releases are in the same repo… thats the problem
[18:39] <maestrojed> SolarisBoy nice
[18:39] <vip_> hello. can someone tell me please how to create launcher for mplayer? at the moment mplayer will run in the background and the only way to stop it is to get it's PID number and then kill it.
[18:39] <aeon-ltd> milen8204: but....?
[18:39] <K3rmit> mkanyicy do you know how?
[18:39] <mkanyicy> auronandace, K3rmit im just rusty but it is along something like 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a'
[18:39] <milen8204> aeon-ltd, I mean I can not move the app windows whit the mouse
[18:39] <mkanyicy> K3rmit, let me re-confirm this
[18:39] <aeon-ltd> ok
[18:39] <K3rmit> hmm
[18:40] <milen8204> aeon-ltd, I am whit gnome-shell
[18:40] <SolarisBoy> maestrojed: another good one `du -h / | grep ^[0-9.]*G` it assumes a lot,, but im sure you can tweak it to your needs.. largest directories on / that would return (ofcourse those with G in the size for Gigabytes) you could also change the G to M and the / to /home or wherever else as needed
[18:40] <SolarisBoy> brb
[18:41] <aeon-ltd> milen8204: no idea, ask the channel again in a few minutes
[18:41] <SolarisBoy> maestrojed: also just fyi sometimes need to be user with privs to see certain files depending on locations, generally things outside of your home require some privs
[18:41] <milen8204> aeon-ltd, and the windows appeared in top left corner of the screen,
[18:41] <aeon-ltd> milen8204: or try asking #gnome
[18:41] <milen8204> aeon-ltd, ok thanks
[18:41] <auronandace> mkanyicy: i didn't think that would work for resuming an upgrade (an update yes but not a full upgrade)
[18:42] <MeQuerSat> luist, take a look here: http://apt-mirror.sourceforge.net/
[18:43] <FishEee> mkanyicy, im not sure its worth the effort to use the SSD
[18:43] <Ethek> Does anyone have a suggestion on where to start tracking down this error with chrome and firefox launched Webex in Ubuntu: http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/9749/ciscowebexeventcenter00.png
[18:43] <mkanyicy> auronandace, i have used this for about 3 times
[18:43] <FishEee> runs fine without it really
[18:44] <mkanyicy> auronandace, sometimes to install afresh is risky and not desired
[18:44] <maestrojed> SolarisBoy no worries, I can use root if need be. Unfortuantly now I can't even ssh into the box. :(
[18:44] <vip_> hello. can someone tell me please how to create launcher for mplayer? at the moment mplayer will run in the background and the only way to stop it is to  get it's PID number and then kill it.
[18:44] <cant_recover_fil> does anybody has any idea what could possibly be wrong in this command: sudo foremost -v -i /dev/sda6 -o /recovery/ -t mp3,mp34,acc
[18:44] <SolarisBoy> maestrojed: ugh
[18:44] <SolarisBoy> maestrojed: thatd be an issue =)
[18:44] <MeQuerSat> Ethek, looks like a permission error. Running it as root gives same error? (be careful though)
[18:44] <milen8204> I can not move the app windows whit the mouse, any ideas what can be wrong ?
[18:44] <mkanyicy> K3rmit, I suggest you backup your stuff then and re-install
[18:44] <Ethek> huh
[18:45] <K3rmit> mkanyicy changed your opinion huh. Ok then,....thanks
[18:45] <mkanyicy> cant_recover_fil, what does foremost do?
[18:45] <mkanyicy> K3rmit, im not sure of that command, so I dont want to take chances with your critical data
[18:45] <cant_recover_fil> well, it just shows list of commands and that's all
[18:45] <saml> hey, after upgrade,  gvim doesn't work
[18:45] <mkanyicy> K3rmit, but I remember encountering these problems in the past
[18:45] <K3rmit> thank you
[18:45] <K3rmit> I'll just do that
[18:45] <saml> mouse works on gvim but not with keyboard
[18:46] <cant_recover_fil> no errors or anything
[18:46] <K3rmit> mkanyicy didn't want to, but I can't see a solution
[18:46] <auronandace> mkanyicy: i suppose it all depends on your setup, i prefer to reinstall afresh for a new release (i keep everything i need on a seperate partition so it isn't much of a risk to me)
[18:46] <saml> http://tots.1o24.org/gvim-problems-after-upgrading-to-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot/
[18:47] <mkanyicy> auronandace, i have been booting and installing since warty
[18:47] <mkanyicy> auronandace, i know what you mean and i do that as well
[18:48] <lino> ciao
[18:48] <fbdystang> Hi all! How can I install atlantis in oneiric? Thanks
[18:48] <mkanyicy> auronandace, but when and upgrade has failed in the middle of the way
[18:48] <Guest49083> hello
[18:48] <Guest49083> hello
[18:48] <K3rmit> auronandace and mkanyicy what's your setup for keeping files on a different partition?
[18:48] <lino> hello
[18:48] <mkanyicy> K3rmit, keep the /home partition separate
[18:48] <K3rmit> I have nothing in home lo
[18:49] <cant_recover_fil> so any idea why this foremost wouldn't work?
[18:49] <mkanyicy> K3rmit, at the very least
[18:49] <K3rmit> all in /var/www and /etc/
[18:49] <Guest49083> speak spanihs
[18:49] <Guest49083> alguien habla español
[18:49] <MonkeyDust> es| Guest49083
[18:49] <MonkeyDust> !es| Guest49083
[18:49] <auronandace> K3rmit: i just keep a seperate storage partition (ntfs) i don't need much settings from /home so it isn't much of a hassle to re-setup apps after a fresh install
[18:49] <dsfUbu11> hello people
[18:50] <Guest49083> ok gracias
[18:50] <Guest49083> thanks
[18:50] <mkanyicy> auronandace, why ntfs?
[18:51] <K3rmit> auronandace so you mean you do regular backups or just store all files there
[18:52] <mkanyicy> K3rmit, you can store your files there
[18:52] <auronandace> mkanyicy: i boot several OS's
[18:52] <mkanyicy> auronandace, you dont have to name its name
[18:52] <auronandace> K3rmit: both, i store files there and backup what i need to an external hd
[18:52] <mkanyicy> auronandace, its the one that doesnt understand permissions and ext4 filesystem
[18:53] <K3rmit> ah
[18:53] <auronandace> mkanyicy: not just windows, i got haiku and openindiana and pcbsd too
[18:54] <mkanyicy> auronandace, i said no names, lol
[18:55] <mkanyicy> auronandace, but i must say, thats quite an extensive lineup of OS's there
[18:56] <maestrojed> is there a way to boot ubuntu to the CLI, to debug. I can't get grub to come up
[18:56] <cheshair> Hi! I have a backup hd. Can I recover passwords from Thunderbird folder?
[18:58] <mkanyicy> maestrojed, did you usually see grub in the past or it was hidden?
[18:59] <maestrojed> mkanyicy I don't know that I used grub on this box before. So I am unsure. It was booting to the point I could SSH in, I tried holding F4 and Shift during reboot. I never got to grub and now that machine won't even load to the point I can SSH in (not sure they are connected but that is what happened)
[19:00] <jacob31> hello
[19:01] <mkanyicy> maestrojed, try booting from the livecd and try to troubleshoot your system
[19:01] <maestrojed> mkanyicy ok, I am downloading the ISO, its taking a while
[19:02] <mkanyicy> maestrojed, good luck
[19:02] <maestrojed> My #1 priority is that there is data in /var/www that is not backed up and I want to back it up before I do anything that could overwrite it (during recovery). Will I be able to do something like that with the live CD?
[19:02] <maestrojed> I guess I would just look for the HD in the media folder
[19:02] <mkanyicy> maestrojed, yes definitely you will be able to do that
[19:02] <mkanyicy> maestrojed, correct
[19:03] <Jax> i tried creating a USB stick with ubuntu on it with both 11.10 and 10.10 with both linuxliveusb.com and the usb creator recommended by the ubuntu site. All the sticks are created fine, but when i try to boot from one i always get: No DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found! when syslinux tries to run
[19:03] <maestrojed> mkanyicy ok thx
[19:03] <Jax> can somebody give me a hint what could be wrong?
[19:03] <mkanyicy> maestrojed, good luck again
[19:03] <maestrojed> mkanyicy hehe, thx
[19:04] <capmtripps> hi all
[19:04] <mkanyicy> !hi| capmtripps
[19:04] <capmtripps> can anyone point me to a tutorial on reformatting?
[19:04] <theadmin> capmtripps: Huh? Just mkfs.fs_type /dev/device_node
[19:04] <mkanyicy> capmtripps, reformat what ? hard drives?
[19:04] <capmtripps> yea
[19:04] <capmtripps> reinstall OS
[19:04] <histo> mkanyicy: no hair dryers
[19:04] <capmtripps> wipe drives
[19:04] <mkanyicy> capmtripps, sudo apt-get install gparted
[19:05] <histo> capmtripps: download dbain cd done
[19:05] <auronandace> mkanyicy: the !hi factoid was removed quite a while back
[19:05] <histo> capmtripps: dban
[19:05] <mkanyicy> auronandace, i can see
[19:05] <histo> capmtripps: or when you install an os you tell it to format the drive
[19:05] <mkanyicy> auronandace, i was once in trouble for abusing it :)
[19:05] <jacob31> I want to restart compiz/unity because after some time of use it lags so bad. What command should i use? compiz --replace or unity --replace? Is there any difference between them?
[19:06] <capmtripps> yea i'm not too happy with the latest ubuntu,  going for an earlier version
[19:06] <_Neytiri_> i need some help getting 11.10 installed and running on my system, i have been at this for over 3 days with no luck
[19:06] <_Neytiri_> i cant get the system to boot
[19:06] <mkanyicy> jacob31, unity and compiz are two different things
[19:07] <histo> _Neytiri_: what comes up at boot?
[19:07] <_Neytiri_> grub recsue
[19:07] <Hukka> What packages would I need to downgrade to get to an older mesa?
[19:08] <auronandace> jacob31: unity is the desktop environment (on top of gnome) and compiz is the window manager
[19:08] <theadmin> Hukka: We don't support downgrading, but... "apt-cache depends mesa" will probably give a hint
[19:08] <mkanyicy> jacob31, it may be worthwhile for you to investigate they lags you are reporting rather than relying on restarting window managers
[19:08] <Hukka> theadmin: mesa is not a package
[19:08] <theadmin> Hukka: Fine, whatever it's called xD I'm not exactly an Ubuntu user.
[19:09] <histo> !grub | _Neytiri_
[19:09] <histo> _Neytiri_: something went wrong when you installed grub2
[19:09] <Hukka> theadmin: It's not a package at all, anywhere
[19:09] <theadmin> Hukka: Oh, huh. Then probably the kernel itself, if it's compiled in and not a module?
[19:09] <histo> _Neytiri_: I would assume you have a bad cd if this has happened multiple times
[19:09] <_Neytiri_> ya for the past 70 attempts, at instlling 11.10]
[19:09] <Hukka> It's a group of package, and I don't fully grok it. I guess everything with the names including drm and dri would do
[19:09] <_Neytiri_> i made several and booted from usb as well
[19:09] <Hukka> But perhaps that's too much
[19:10] <histo> !md5sum | _Neytiri_
[19:10] <jacob31> yes, but these commands seems to have the same effect since unity is compiz plugin
[19:10] <_Neytiri_> multiple downloads of the same immage done of different machines
[19:10] <_Neytiri_> histo,  i have verified that the image i am useing is good
[19:10] <mkanyicy> jacob31, unity is compiz plugin?
[19:10] <auronandace> !find mesa | Hukka
[19:11] <histo> _Neytiri_: if you haven't verified with md5sum then you haven't properly verified
[19:11] <emiru> banshee sucks
[19:11] <histo> _Neytiri_: verify the image and verify the cd
[19:11] <Hukka> auronandace: Yes, but is that enough? Because I doubt it is
[19:11] <auronandace> emiru: try vlc
[19:11] <histo> _Neytiri_: if that is the case then are you using some obscure hardware?
[19:11] <Hukka> I'm thinking maybe libgl1-mesa-dri, libgl1-mesa-glx, libglapi-mesa, libglu1-mesa and xserver-xorg-video-radeon too
[19:11] <clear> anyone have a few mins to help me with my problem, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1888298
[19:11] <emiru> will do
[19:11] <_Neytiri_> 10.4 worked fine on the same hardware
[19:11] <emiru> anything to upload music to ipod?
[19:11] <Hukka> Not sure about the driver though
[19:12] <mkanyicy> clear what is your problem?
[19:12] <histo> _Neytiri_: then like I say verify the image and verify the cd after it's burned also.
[19:12] <auronandace> !ipod | emiru
[19:12] <clear> wireless connection drops after a min or two
[19:12] <Hukka> Well, I guess I'll try all of them *shrugs*
[19:12] <_Neytiri_> histo, i have done that, and i am booting usb
[19:12] <emiru> auronandace: Thanks ill check it out
[19:12] <zul_> hi all
[19:13] <clear> mkanyicy: i upgraded to 11.04 and hated it so i did a fresh install of 10.10 and now wifi doesnt work properly
[19:13] <mkanyicy> emiru,  rhythmbox?
[19:13] <histo> _Neytiri_: you can verify the thumb drive the same way you would an image
[19:13] <Jax> what's the root passwd on a live cd?
[19:13] <auronandace> emiru: no worries :)
[19:13] <clear> i used the link in the thread to get the wifi to show, but now it drops after a min of use
[19:13] <theadmin> Jax: We don't set a root password, use sudo
[19:13] <auronandace> !root | Jax
[19:13] <emiru> manyicy: Ill try it, I heard 12.04 is switichin back to rhtymbox
[19:13] <MeQuerSat> clear, so try 11.10 ;)
[19:13] <Jax> thx
[19:13] <Anomie211> Getting this error when trying to compile a program? make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.0.0-12-generic'
[19:13] <Jax> ;)
[19:13] <Anomie211> make: *** [modules] Error 2
[19:14] <histo> Anomie211: what program are you trying to compile?
[19:14] <zul_> could you suggest me the right tool to use to store and get geografical data? such as: I want all the places from here to a distance d?
[19:14] <Anomie211> histo: the driver for my wireless dongle
[19:14] <clear> MeQuerSat: i didnt like unity in 11.10
[19:14] <MeQuerSat> clear: me neither
[19:14] <zul_> I thinksed before redis and hilbert curves but I don't know
[19:14] <clear> another reason why i went back to 10.10
[19:14] <MeQuerSat> clear: so im using Gnome Shell on 11.10. love it
[19:14] <scoopex> my apache webserver uses configuration snippes which are located at a nfs share....on systemboot it fails to start because the nfs share is mounted to late.....the lsb-tags of apache request $remote_fs...but ubuntu seems to ignore this...any hints?
[19:14] <histo> Anomie211: what versioni of ubuntu are you using?
[19:14] <clear> i have 10.04 lts also, but wifi didnt work in that
[19:14] <auronandace> clear: you can use a different desktop (i use xfce)
[19:14] <Anomie211> ubuntu 11.10
[19:15] <mkanyicy> clear 10.10 is ancient
[19:15] <mkanyicy> clear not even an LTS to justify
[19:15] <clear> well, i am still very newb with ubuntu
[19:15] <MeQuerSat> clear: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell ;)
[19:15] <histo> Anomie211: Well you don't have kernel 3.0 so that could be the reason
[19:15] <mkanyicy> clear, im not that good with wifi
[19:16] <Anomie211> histo: is there a way to install that via apt-get or should I use the packet manager?
[19:16] <histo> Anomie211: make sure you install build-essential first before you attempt to install software from source
[19:16] <Anomie211> histo: I installed it about 20mins ago
[19:16] <clear> maybe i should install the latest and go from there
[19:16] <auronandace> histo: 11.10 uses the 3.0 kernel
[19:16] <Anomie211> histo: I haven't restarted though - could that be the issue?
[19:16] <histo> Anomie211: is it possible that you don't need to build drivers from source?  What chipset does your card have?
[19:16] <clear> is fresh install of 11.10 recommended or is upgrade fine?
[19:17] <MeQuerSat> clear: fresh install
[19:17] <clear> k
[19:17] <Anomie211> auronandace: yeah I thought I Was on 3.0 as it's in the error msg  "Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.0.0-12-generic'"
[19:17] <auronandace> clear: i tend to fresh install
[19:17] <clear> i will give 11.10 another go and make that will fix a few other problems
[19:17] <clear> thanks
[19:17] <mkanyicy> clear: fresh install
[19:17] <Anomie211> histo: are you talking about my processor or the wifi card?
[19:17] <histo> auronandace: sry I haven't rebooted since installing that lol
[19:17] <histo> Anomie211: wifi card
[19:17] <alecb> is there a way of taking a screenshot by somehow specifying the window on the command line (like maybe by a pid or something)? I have this weird problem where I have windows that minimize as soon as I try to restore them...
[19:18] <Anomie211> histo: It's just a cheap one I bought off ebay, dont even think it has a brand lol
[19:18] <histo> Anomie211: lspci | grep Network
[19:18] <llutz> alecb: "man import" from imagemagick
[19:18] <histo> Anomie211: lsusb
[19:19] <Anomie211> histo: Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0bda:8176 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8188CUS 802.11n WLAN
[19:20] <mkanyicy> llutz, thanks for that, i did not know!
[19:20] <histo> Anomie211: let me check something but I don't think you will need a driver for that chipset
[19:21] <Anomie211> histo: ok thanks; it doesn't work currently though so surely I would need to install something?
[19:21] <histo> Anomie211: I believe you just need the firmware
[19:22] <histo> Anomie211: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1705004
[19:22] <Anomie211> histo: thanks mate,  I probably would've been at that for hours! will take a look at that thread
[19:24] <maestrojed> I have booted from a CD, I need to move files off of the HD to some other computer. I was hoping to use FTP. Is there an FTP program that works when booted from the CD
[19:24] <alecb> llutz: how can I find out the window's id? is there a way to get xwininfo to report on all open windows?
[19:24] <mkanyicy> maestrojed, scp or rsync
[19:24] <maestrojed> I guess I can use CLI and scp
[19:24] <maestrojed> mkanyicy :)
[19:25] <mkanyicy> maestrojed, its a commandline utility
[19:25] <dsfUbu11> hola de nuevo
[19:25] <dsfUbu11> ya no em deja entrar
[19:25] <llutz> alecb: xwininfo -name <name of your app>
[19:26] <Anomie211> histo: way-hey! working :D. I've been at this for ages mate thx again.
[19:26] <llutz> alecb: better: title of the window
[19:26] <K3rmit> so is 11.10 the best release to use now?
[19:26] <histo> Anomie211: np
[19:26] <mkanyicy> maestrojed, you run it like 'scp -r /path/to/your/local/folder remoteuser@remotemachine:/home/remoteuser/somefolder/that/side'
[19:26] <histo> !best | K3rmit
[19:26] <theadmin> K3rmit: There's no "best", but it's the latest stable, yes.
[19:26] <K3rmit> that's what I mean
[19:26] <K3rmit> :)
[19:27] <kallisti5> [whoo.. trollin' time.]   Mint Linux just overtook ubuntu on distrowatch for the 12 month time span.  Guess unity isn't all that great?
[19:27] <histo> K3rmit: however I would recomend 10.04 for LTS if it was a production machine
[19:27] <maestrojed> If I do something like "tar cfz - a-directory | ssh user@host "tar zxvf -" does it need to write to the local HD to create the tarball or will it create that on the remote server. My HD is 100.1% full. So I can't write anything to it.
[19:27]  * kallisti5 sits back and waits for the profit
[19:27] <K3rmit> histo what's LTS? 10.04 that's way behind 11.10 isn't it
[19:28] <histo> !lts | K3rmit
[19:28] <maestrojed> ahhh tar understands SSH t"ar cvfz user@host:file.tar a-directory"
[19:28] <histo> K3rmit: the versions in between are not long term support they are stepping stones to the next LTS which will be 12.04
[19:29] <K3rmit> ahhh
[19:29] <kallisti5> !mint | kallisti5
[19:29] <kallisti5> lol
[19:29] <oCean> kallisti5: you can stop now
[19:29] <kallisti5> winning
[19:29] <kallisti5> oCean: fine.
[19:29] <MeQuerSat> My HD is 100.1% full.
[19:30] <MeQuerSat> wow, thats an accomplishment
[19:30] <steve841> hi i am new to linux i am running ubuntu 11.10 on my LG R380 laptop and i have having issues with my webcam is there anyone out there that can help me
[19:30] <MeQuerSat> steve841, what happens when you open a program that uses your webcam?
[19:30] <alecb> llutz: doesn't seem to be working. I tried passing the title that the window displays (which seems to work for other windows), and xwininfo gave me some id, but then I tried typing in gibberish for window name and it gave me the same id...
[19:30] <mkanyicy> steve841, i guess you are not smiling to it?
[19:30] <maestrojed> MeQuerSat :) it wasn't me. Its part of the issue I am having for sure. It must be an exploit or log file out of control. But every last bit is occupied. #occupyHD
[19:31] <MeQuerSat> haha
[19:31] <alecb> llutz: oh actually nvm, 1 sec
[19:31] <llutz> alecb: works here(tm)
[19:34] <Jax> hm what does ubuntu mean by "you will have to enable the component called 'universe'" when i do an apt-get install ipython
[19:35] <histo> Jax: it's a repository
[19:35] <llutz> alecb: try: xwininfo -root -tree
[19:35] <histo> !universe | Jax
[19:36] <alecb> llutz: no, I got it, my task bar puts [ ] around minimized windows so I thought that was part of the name
[19:36] <steve84> can any1 help me out i am having issues with my LG Laptop im running ubuntu 11.10 and i am having issues with the built in webcam
[19:36] <llutz> alecb: ah, ok then
[19:36] <shomon> hi, I have everything playing super speed, flash, avis etc...
[19:37] <mkanyicy> steve84, is it not working?
[19:37] <alecb> llutz: but import's complaining about "unable to read X window image `0x4000328': Resource temporarily unavailable" - googling that
[19:37] <shomon> running as root it goes away... how do I uncorrupt my user and play videos properly again?
[19:37] <zul_> What kind of db Could I use to store (lat, long) data and after search for it in the way: give me all the places close to this coords <lat, long>?
[19:37] <mkanyicy> steve84, what application are you using for your webcam?
[19:37] <steve84> nope i opened up cheese but all i see is a black screen
[19:37] <histo> shomon: remove whatever file is screwing it up from your ~
[19:37] <mkanyicy> steve84, oh no
[19:37] <shomon> ehm, which?
[19:38] <histo> shomon: specifically i'd look in your .mozilla directory in your home
[19:38] <steve84> maybe its the driver i have no idea im new to linux and totally lost
[19:38] <MeQuerSat> steve841, what happens when you open a program that uses your webcam?\
 when i open up cheese it opens but all i see is a blank screen
[19:39] <llutz> alecb: errors because window is minimized. no idea how to make a screenshot of minimized windows
[19:39] <llutz> alecb: if that makes sense at all...
[19:40] <alecb> llutz: hm, well crap... them being minimized is my problem to begin with
[19:40] <mkanyicy> steve84, can you try to open cheese from terminal and see if any messages might be displayed, that might give a clue
 the webcam model is called FS13FF-183
 what do i type in terminal as i got no idea
[19:41] <nicola> hi to everyone. i've a problem with network settings
[19:42] <MeQuerSat> steve84, just type cheese
[19:42] <histo> !ask | nicola
[19:42] <MeQuerSat> and then press enter
[19:43] <varyjag> herro
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/754020/
[19:43] <nicola> Wanna set an ip not static with dhcp. I wanna have automatic dhcp but i want to set one ip and use it. I have a cloud configuration and if i have any different ips the cloud doesn't work. TNX
[19:43] <histo> !webcam | steve84
[19:44] <histo> nicola: are you using network manager?
[19:44] <nicola> yes
[19:44] <Emmy> hello all :) having some problems... have installed ubuntu in dual boot on eee pc, supposed to have a menu when it boots, but goes straight to windows everytime
[19:44] <histo> nicola: then uncheck dhcp and specify an ip
[19:44] <nicola> no
[19:44] <histo> !grub | Emmy
[19:44] <nicola> because then i can't go in internet
[19:44] <llutz> nicola: edit your dhcpd.config to set fixed IPs for some MACs
[19:45] <nicola> tnx llutz how can i do this?
[19:45] <shomon> anyone know how I can get videos to play at correct speed on ubuntu? It was all fine until yesterday, I may have updated software but not sure, and now even flash goes superspeed with no sound.
[19:45] <mkanyicy> steve84, stick this to google '** (cheese:3234): WARNING **: Error starting streaming on device '/dev/video0'.'
[19:45] <shomon> this is the same on banshee, mplayer, miro and flash :(
[19:45] <histo> nicola: You have to specify a static IP that is still on the same subnet as the others ex: 192.168.1.142 < is old dhcp then static one has to be 192.168.1.### < first three fields are the same
[19:45] <dweez> !anyone
[19:45] <histo> nicola: you also have to specify DNS servers
[19:46] <histo> nicola: try using 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[19:46] <histo> !botabuse > dweez
[19:46] <nicola> dns is 8.8.8.8 not the ip of router?
[19:46] <cacotont> Hello. Can someone help me?
[19:46] <histo> nicola: 8.8.8.8 is google's free public dns server
[19:46] <histo> !ask > cacotont
[19:46] <dweez> histo, that wasn't bot abuse
[19:46] <nicola> ok
[19:46] <dweez> it was for shomon
[19:46] <nicola> i try it
[19:47] <Guest30295> guys how do i install a .deb in my local dir useing command line only?
[19:47] <histo> nicola: gateway is the ip of the router
[19:47] <shomon> ?
[19:47] <nicola> what is the command for network settngs?
[19:47] <shomon> for me?
[19:47] <mkanyicy> shomon, even vlc? have you rebooted lately?
[19:47] <Guest30295> guys how do i install a .deb in my local dir useing command line only?
[19:48] <llutz> Guest30295: "sudo dpkg -i file.deb"
[19:48] <histo> nicola: ?
[19:48] <nicola> nothng i found it :)
[19:48] <shomon> dweez, the question was there. or do you not like it when people start sentences with "anyone"?
[19:48] <fabio> ciao
[19:48] <shomon> hi fabio
[19:48] <fabio> list!
[19:48] <Emmy> histo, I had a look at that but I can't make sense of it.  Sorry I don't really know what I'm doing yet...
[19:49] <fabio> !list
[19:50] <shomon> do any knowledgeable people know how to get videos playing normal speed in ubuntu?
[19:50] <shomon> there
[19:50] <Guest30295> so skype does not run on xterm xD
[19:50] <histo> Emmy: basically you have to reinstall grub2
[19:50] <Emmy> ok
[19:50] <mkanyicy> shomon, no
[19:50] <Emmy> from the usb stick I used to install ubuntu? histo
[19:50] <shomon> ok thanks anyway
[19:51] <mkanyicy> shomon, np
[19:51] <dweez> shomon, I found this thread but haven't experienced it myself ==> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1679220
[19:52] <Guest30295> llutz how do i say "install all debendencys?
[19:52] <shomon> thanks dweez :) I'm just trying to log in to ubuntuforums now
[19:52] <cacotont> How can I to delete recently files when I open the unity dash? I tried to delete the "recently-used.xbel" file, but it isn't the solution. In ubuntu 10, in "Places- Recent files", there are a option that delete the recent files opened. So, now I have Ubuntu 11.10. And I don't know how to do. What should I do?
[19:53] <llutz> Guest30295: sudo apt-get -f install
[19:53] <mkanyicy> shomon, i have experienced a bit with rhythmbox before, when that happens, there is a high pitch tone pinging sound, when i restart the player it just became fine
[19:53] <Emmy> Alright, I'll go try and come back if it doesn't work. Thanks :)
[19:53] <mkanyicy> shomon, i no longer have that issue anymore
[19:53] <_Neytiri_> hwo do i know if the bootable USB i maid form a good image is good
[19:53] <shomon> ah thanks mkanyicy I'm getting it with everything
[19:54] <shomon> only different users don't have the problem
[19:54] <repvik> I'm having problems with Ubuntu 11.10 not booting properly due to failing to assemble a raid. I *do* have boot degraded set, and the raid assembles fine with mdadm --assemble --scan from the initramfs. What gives?
[19:54] <dweez> cacotont, did you log out then log back in after doing it?  See this thread --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1866953
[19:56] <_Neytiri_> how do i know if the bootable USB i maid form a good image is good
[19:56] <cacotont> dweez, yes I did, it don 't fix the problem. Now I will see you link.
[19:57] <dweez> cacotont, the link pretty much says what you tried, albeit with a few more steps
[19:59] <histo> !md5sum | _Neytiri_
[19:59] <Jax> can i create an image with dd by just doing: dd if=/dev/usbstick of=my.img then copy that to any other usb stick with if=my.img of=/dev/usbsticknew
[19:59] <trism> cacotont: http://askubuntu.com/questions/29559/how-can-i-keep-recent-files-from-appearing-in-unity
[20:00] <histo> _Neytiri_: you have to specify the amount of bytes to read so that it reads the same amount of data to compare that should be on that page
[20:00] <histo> _Neytiri_: under the check cd_the_cd section
[20:00] <rainbowwarrior> Hi Can someone please help me, i am using Ubuntu 11.10  ( 64 bit ) and when i load a java chat room it freezes on me and i do a java -version i get this java -version
[20:00] <rainbowwarrior> java version "1.7.0_147-icedtea"
[20:00] <rainbowwarrior> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea7 2.0) (7~b147-2.0-0ubuntu0.11.10.1)
[20:00] <rainbowwarrior> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 21.0-b17, mixed mode) how can i fix my problem please ?
[20:00] <FloodBot1> rainbowwarrior: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:01] <MeQuerSat> rainbowwarrior, big chance the sun version of java will work
[20:02] <MeQuerSat> rainbowwarrior, but I would first try the v6 of openjdk
[20:02] <mrgotty> hello
[20:02] <MeQuerSat> you can install it with sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[20:02] <mrgotty> can i get some help please
[20:02] <mrgotty> I have recently purchased a new laptop that has already been partitioned into 2 partitions
[20:02] <rainbowwarrior> ok ty MeQuerSat
[20:03] <mrgotty> I now want to install Ubuntu on the 2nd partition
[20:03] <mrgotty> can anyone tell me how to do it?
[20:03] <mrgotty> please
[20:03] <MeQuerSat> mrgotty, calm down
[20:03] <mrgotty> sorry lol
[20:03] <MeQuerSat> mrgotty, is any OS installed already?
[20:03] <mrgotty> yes windows 7 which i want to keep and dual boot so i can use Linux on the other partition
[20:04] <jayar> i just went through this "remove unity" tut online, and then it reboots and theres no gui. just command line
[20:04] <mrgotty> its my first time trying Linux
[20:04] <MeQuerSat> jayar, do this command "startx"
[20:04] <jayar> fails
[20:04] <jayar> tried that
[20:04] <MeQuerSat> jayar, what do you want? Gnome Shell ?
[20:05] <jayar> tried sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[20:05] <MeQuerSat> mrgotty, well, Ubuntu is going to need more than 1 partition
[20:05] <MeQuerSat> mrgotty, you can remove that partition and install ubuntu
[20:05] <fornix> mrgotty, usually in laptops, there is a system partition about 200 mb just for booting, then there is a boot partition or c drive
[20:05] <projekt26> try sudo apt-get install xfce4
[20:05] <Galvatron> jayar: Seems like you might have uninstalled X in the process.
[20:05] <mrgotty> well i have c drive and a d drive
[20:05] <mrgotty> i was wanting to run linux on the d
[20:05] <MeQuerSat> jayar, what did you get after you installed gnome-shell with apt-get ?
[20:05] <mrgotty> but im guessing i need to unpartition that?
[20:06] <MeQuerSat> mrgotty, yes
[20:06] <Galvatron> jayar:: Or the LightDM at least
[20:06] <MeQuerSat> mrgotty, just remove the partition and boot an ubuntu livecd
[20:06] <Emmy> hello, please can someone help me install grub2
[20:06] <cacotont> thank you, trism for yours links. I will loggin my session again to see if it work
[20:06] <mrgotty> how can i do that? i dont have a cd for it
[20:06] <Galvatron> jayar: sudo apt-get install lightdm
[20:06] <fornix> mrgotty, u need to find out if ur so called d drive is a primary partition or a logical partition. before that u need to check if your disk is dynamic partition scheme or basic
[20:06] <MeQuerSat> mrgotty, it will then have the option "Use largest free space"
[20:06] <jayar> how bout gdm
[20:06] <mrgotty> i have a cd with linux on it from the magazine, linux format
[20:07] <MeQuerSat> jayar, what did you get after you installed gnome-shell with apt-get ?
[20:07] <Galvatron> jayar: Might be as well
[20:07] <fornix> mrgotty, u can create a bootable usb using the ubuntu iso file.
[20:07] <jayar> MeQuerSat: it said nothing installed/changed or whatever
[20:08] <MeQuerSat> jayar, I assume youre on a desktop or laptop?
[20:08] <MeQuerSat> jayar, then run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[20:08] <Qualia> :o
[20:08] <Qualia> No !
[20:08] <MeQuerSat> if that doesnt install X correctly, you messed something up
[20:08] <rainbowwarrior> MeQuerSat,  i tried what you said, but yet the chat applet still crashes
[20:08] <jayar> i'll try that
[20:08] <Qualia> jayar, you can install arch linux as well.
[20:08] <MeQuerSat> Qualia, -_-
[20:08] <MeQuerSat> rainbowwarrior, did you check what java version its using now?
[20:08] <Qualia> MeQuerSat, lol.
[20:09] <fornix> mrgotty, here http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download in step 2, select usb stick and select windows. follow the instructions to create bootable usb
[20:09] <MeQuerSat> rainbowwarrior, maybe you need to uninstall openjdk version 7 first
[20:09] <mrgotty> i know how to do it now guys thanks anyway :)
[20:09] <mrgotty> back soon to let you know how i get on
[20:09] <rainbowwarrior> ok ty MeQuerSat  il give that a try
[20:09] <rainbowwarrior> brb
[20:10] <Emmy>  please can someone help me install grub2?
[20:10] <MeQuerSat> Emmy, is ubuntu installed already?
[20:10] <MeQuerSat> Emmy, are you in ubuntu at the moment?
[20:10] <Emmy> in theory yes, although I can't get to it.
[20:10] <Emmy> No
[20:10] <MeQuerSat> ah, ok
[20:11] <Guest30295> guys how to configure the sound in awesome?
[20:11] <Emmy> I tried booting off the lili usb, it gave me the install options again
[20:11] <MeQuerSat> what you need to do is open this webpage: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Use_Boot-Repair_Graphical_Tool
[20:11] <Emmy> then restarted into windows
[20:11] <MeQuerSat> and follow the instructions
[20:11] <Emmy> ok thanks
[20:12] <MeQuerSat> Emmy: the instruction on installing and using Boot-Repair can be found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[20:12] <trism> Guest30295: probably pavucontrol unless you aren't using pulseaudio
[20:12] <MeQuerSat> Does ubuntu actually still ships with Synaptic ?
[20:13] <Emmy> ok..  I've read it, but I don't really understand what it means
[20:13] <Emmy> I don't have a cd writer
[20:13] <trism> MeQuerSat: not by default but it is still in the repos
[20:13] <Phr3d13> MeQuerSat: I believe so
[20:13] <Emmy> so do I need to get a new usb stick and put boot repair on it?
[20:13] <MeQuerSat> Emmy: you can run the ubuntu-livecd from the usb-stick too
[20:13] <theadmin> MeQuerSat: It doesn't actually, but it is in the repos
[20:13] <histo> Emmy: you can click on the boot repair link if that's what you want to use. And install it
[20:13] <Emmy> MeQuerSat, the one I already made to install ubuntu?
[20:14] <MeQuerSat> too bad, I really prefer Synaptics over software center
[20:14] <histo> Emmy: boot of the usb you made then install that boot repair program and use that.
[20:14] <MeQuerSat> ^ that
[20:14] <theadmin> Emmy: I'm still here you know ready to help :)
[20:15] <Guest30295> trism trying to do a minimal gui installation in a vm to use skype in there
[20:15] <Emmy> ok, I tried that, booted off the usb, gave me the ubuntu install options (instead/as well as windows), so I tried that again, it said 'restart to continue', then restarted to windows1!
[20:15] <LoRez> are there any alternatives to ksplice since oracle bought them?
[20:15] <Emmy> thanks theadmin
[20:15] <histo> Guest30295: You shouldn't ahve to config sound first. It should just work out of the box
[20:15] <histo> Guest30295: also skype is in the repos
[20:16] <MeQuerSat> Emmy: wasnt the top option: "Try ubuntu" ?
[20:16] <Emmy> yep
[20:16] <MeQuerSat> click it
[20:16] <Guest30295> trism i get an error message of pavucontrol
[20:16] <MeQuerSat> ;)
[20:16] <Emmy> but then it doesn't install it
[20:16] <Emmy> does it?
[20:16] <histo> Emmy: try ubuntu without installing
[20:16] <MeQuerSat> yep
[20:16] <Guest30295> trism i get an error message of pavucontrol connection failed: connection refused....
[20:16] <theadmin> Emmy: Can you go back to PM with me? I'll give details in an easier language lol
[20:16] <trism> Guest30295: if it was a minimal install, you probably don't have pulseaudio installed, so pavucontrol won't work
[20:16] <Emmy> ohh I see, so that puts me into ubuntu, then I can install boot repair straight from in ubuntu ?
[20:17] <MeQuerSat> yup
[20:17] <Emmy> great! thanks
[20:17] <Emmy> so, once I'm in ubuntu how do I install?
[20:17] <MeQuerSat> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[20:17] <MeQuerSat> It should all be there
[20:17] <Emmy> fantastic
[20:17] <Emmy> thanks1
[20:17] <Guest30295> trism so what works? i got my sound forwarded in the vm now i want awesome to get my headset and microphone...
[20:17] <Emmy> back in a bit
[20:18] <histo> Guest30295: I would install pulseaudio and pavucontrol
[20:18] <MeQuerSat> Guest30295, skype in a vm?
[20:18] <cacotont> Hi, i'm here again. @trism. I tried to do but not delete de recent files on my ubuntu 11.10
[20:18] <rainbowwarrior> MeQuerSat, for some reason it still saying using java version "1.7.0_147-icedtea"
[20:18] <rainbowwarrior>  although i used software center to uninstall it ...
[20:18] <Guest30295> skype is spyweare
[20:18] <histo> Guest30295: what?
[20:18] <llutz> Guest30295: don't use it then
[20:18] <MeQuerSat> Guest30295, what program are you using?
[20:18] <Guest30295> i have to for school...
[20:19] <histo> Guest30295: it isn't spyware
[20:19] <Guest30295> histo and why did it start sending gigabites of data to argentinia?
[20:19] <MeQuerSat> rainbowwarrior, execute this in a terminal "sudo apt-get remove openjdk-7-jre icedtea-7-jre-jamvm"
[20:20] <MeQuerSat> then check the version again
[20:20] <Guest30295> MeQuerSat what do you mean?
[20:20] <histo> Guest30295: I don't know but their headquarters is in luxemburg germany not argentinia
[20:20] <histo> Guest30295: how exactly where you tracking the data?  I would look there first
[20:20] <MeQuerSat> Guest30295, you want microphone to vm, so what program are you using in vm that requires microphone?
[20:20] <llutz> luxemburg is small but NOT in germany
[20:21] <MeQuerSat> haha, luxemburg in germany :/
[20:21] <Guest30295> histo with wireshark and the ip was in argentinia... not me who choose that land...
[20:21] <Guest30295> MeQuerSat virtualbox
[20:21] <histo> Guest30295: I doubt it was skype sending the data
[20:22] <histo> llutz: What?
[20:22] <Guest30295> histo why? its not a new thing they include spyweare...
[20:22] <xskydevilx> Does anyone know of a place to get the default compizconfig-settings-manager config?
[20:22] <oCean> Guest30295: let's move away from the FUD discussion, back on tech support topic please
[20:22] <trism> cacotont: you tried the activity log manager?
[20:22] <MeQuerSat> xskydevilx, quick and dirty way: uninstalling with the --purge option and then reinstalling
[20:22] <psychx-> Guest30295: I found this website when googling your problem: http://community.skype.com/t5/Windows/Skype-exe-sending-data-to-strange-IP-address-what-is-this/td-p/270278
[20:23] <histo> llutz: oh nvm
[20:23] <psychx-> Guest30295: It seems it might be a supernode for p2p traffic.
[20:23] <xskydevilx> MeQuerSat: I know how to do it in Ubuntu. I'm on another distro and want to import the defaults from Ubuntu ;)
[20:23] <rainbowwarrior> MeQuerSat,  it don't seem to be removing it as it still saying :- java -version
[20:23] <rainbowwarrior> java version "1.7.0_147-icedtea"
[20:23] <niftylettuce> Hey guys I'm installing latest Ubuntu since my i3-2330M graphics wasn't working in lucid 10.04 nor debian 6.0 and I had to use xorg-edgers to even get the card recognized (Intel HD 3000) -- now I figured I'd try 11.10 a shot, and while I tried to do the normal install from CD, it went to black/blank screen on Stage 2 -- and now I'm trying to do the alternate install and some tutorials tell me to h
[20:23] <niftylettuce> it 'e' and then add a text only mode somehow to grub boot, could anyone lend a hand?
[20:24] <histo> Guest30295: where you perhaps running tor as an exit node?
[20:24] <niftylettuce> tells me to hit 'e'*
[20:24] <MeQuerSat> xskydevilx, google ubuntupackages, search the package, download/unpack and search for the config
[20:24] <MeQuerSat> rainbowwarrior, wait a sec
[20:24] <Guest30295> psychx still i wanna sandbox it
[20:24] <Guest30295> histo i was not! i was not even doing anything on the net
[20:25] <reisio> niftylettuce: the default framebuffer version of the installer on the alternate image should be fine
[20:25] <rainbowwarrior> ok ty MeQuerSat
[20:25] <reisio> niftylettuce: likely no need to use some purely text version
[20:26] <niftylettuce> ok im trying it now, give me a few mins..
[20:26] <histo> Guest30295: well put it this way my skype doesn't send gigabytes of data anywhere
[20:26] <histo> Guest30295: also putting it in a vm isn't going to change that
[20:26] <Guest30295> pavucontrol is responding but i cant choose any funktional sound there and no microphone...
[20:26] <Guest30295> histo realy? what is it going to send there?
[20:27] <histo> Guest30295: well i'm assuming audio and video would be your suspicion
[20:27] <psychx-> Guest30295: Does it always send data or only when making a call or something?
[20:27] <ertyiuy> hello there
[20:27] <histo> Guest30295: I would look at iostat when it's sending the data to see what it's actually reading. Bet you will find nothing
[20:27] <ertyiuy> i m on TTY mode on ubuntu server
[20:27] <histo> Guest30295: and check your tools
[20:27] <ertyiuy> how to select ?
[20:27] <histo> ertyiuy: how to select what?
[20:27] <MeQuerSat> rainbowwarrior, do a "sudo apt-get remove openjdk-7-jre openjdk-7-jre-lib openjdk-7-jre-zero openjdk-7-jre-headless icedtea-7-jre-jamvm"
[20:28] <ertyiuy> s
[20:28] <Guest30295> psychx it was jsut that one time... never happend before, never again... still it scared me
[20:28] <ertyiuy> how to make selection ?
[20:28] <Guest30295> i dont want it to send my porn in the web
[20:28] <psychx-> lol
[20:28] <oCean> Guest30295: please keep this channel family-friendly and professional
[20:28] <histo> Guest30295: so skype/microsoft is spying on you?  I think it's tinfoil hat time
[20:28] <ertyiuy> do you get now ? histo
[20:29] <histo> ertyiuy: No?
[20:29] <ertyiuy> how to make selection
[20:29] <histo> ertyiuy: make what selection?
[20:29] <ertyiuy> for example i
[20:29] <Guest30295> oCean sry
[20:29] <MeQuerSat> rainbowwarrior, now it should give v6 as the version
[20:29] <ertyiuy> i type ls -l
[20:29] <histo> k
[20:29] <jenka> Hello, i am trying to set up a cron job but i've get this error message when its running "(CRON) error (grandchild #.. failed with exit status 6)" What does the 6 stands for? Couldnt find anything about this! :)
[20:29] <histo> ertyiuy: what copy and paste?
[20:29] <ertyiuy> i would like to do ctrl a
[20:29] <ertyiuy> to select all
[20:29] <ertyiuy> then copy and paste why not
[20:29] <histo> ertyiuy: yeah you would use screen or you could just install gpm and use the mouse
[20:30] <histo> ertyiuy: or you could ls -l > somefile.txt
[20:30] <ertyiuy> i don't have mouse
[20:30] <rainbowwarrior> yes MeQuerSat  it gives me v6 as version now ty
[20:30] <niftylettuce> reisio: it is just sitting there with a purple screen and a grey bar at the bottmo
[20:30] <niftylettuce> bottom*
[20:30] <theadmin> jenka: Whatever process it is, "6" doesn't really stand for anything specific...
[20:30] <psychx-> Guest30295: I think you will be fine, I read that it occasionally uses p2p traffic for things (maybe when an update comes out? not sure) and skype servers for the rest.
[20:30] <ertyiuy> i m sure it is possible
[20:31] <ertyiuy> i saw someone done this kind of task
[20:31] <histo> ertyiuy: then use screen you hit Ctrl+a+[ to start copy mode use the arrows to move the cursor and hit enter to start. Then hit enter at the end.  then ctrl+a+] to paste
[20:31] <Guest30295> well everything seems to work now.. thx for help
[20:31] <Guest30295> realy thx... could not have done without you nerds
[20:31] <histo> ertyiuy: but like I said you could just pipe the output of ls -l to another command or file
[20:31] <histo> ertyiuy: ls -l > somefile.txt would make somefile.txt with the output
[20:31] <jenka> theadmin, okey, but what could it be? I am really confused, btw im trying to set it up for drupal
[20:31] <reisio> niftylettuce: purple?
[20:31] <histo> !bash | ertyiuy
[20:32] <ertyiuy> i would like to do in same way as vi
[20:32] <rainbowwarrior> MeQuerSat,  nope the java chat applet still crashes using that version aswell
[20:32] <histo> ertyiuy: yeah then install screen and use that
[20:32] <MeQuerSat> rainbowwarrior, there is one more thing to try
[20:32] <ertyiuy> screen ?
[20:32] <histo> !screen | ertyiuy
[20:32] <reisio> ertyiuy: that's screen, not vi
[20:32] <ertyiuy> screen is allready present
[20:32] <reisio> ertyiuy: well run 'screen'
[20:33] <ertyiuy> done
[20:33] <histo> ertyiuy: screen is controlled by ctrl+a+?  the ? being some key
[20:33] <niftylettuce> reisio: yeah its just sitting there, it did DHCP detection and now its not doing anything
[20:33] <histo> ertyiuy: ctrl+a+? will bring up help
[20:33] <Guest30295> well there is 1 more thing u could help me... how to resize the awesome desktop?
[20:33] <rainbowwarrior> ok ty MeQuerSat
[20:33] <happybooboobear> Linux rocks
[20:33] <niftylettuce> reisio: just the normal alternate install background color fills the entire screen except for a small horizontal white/gray bar at the bottom
[20:33] <reisio> ertyiuy: the meat of it is 'screen' to start, CTRL+a, then c to -create- new "screens", CTRL+a, then K (that's SHIFT+k) to kill the current one, CTRL+a, then # to jump around them (or CTRL+a, then " [SHIFT+']), CTRL+a, then ESC to enter selection mode, SPACE to toggle selection on/off, and CTRL+a, ] to paste
[20:34] <reisio> niftylettuce: hrmmm
[20:34] <niftylettuce> reisio: ugh :'(
[20:34] <reisio> niftylettuce: you could just install to a VM, then enable the required drivers, then copy the install over to the physical device
[20:34] <niftylettuce> reisio: that will take foreverrrr
[20:34] <histo> reisio: no copy mode is ctrl+a [
[20:34] <MeQuerSat> rainbowwarrior, do you have the 64 bit or 32 bit ubuntu version?
[20:35] <rainbowwarrior> 64 bit MeQuerSat
[20:35] <reisio> histo: hrmm?
[20:35] <reisio> histo: oh, it's both
[20:35] <MeQuerSat> rainbowwarrior, and youre opening the java applet from firefox?
[20:35] <histo> reisio: your instructions to him with ctrl+a "
[20:35] <rainbowwarrior> yes MeQuerSat
[20:35] <ertyiuy> how to do the samething from mac terminal
[20:36] <Emmy> hello
[20:36] <ertyiuy> i m from my mac osx connected to my ubuntu server
[20:36] <histo> reisio: nvm I missunderstood
[20:36] <ertyiuy> via ssh
[20:36] <reisio> ertyiuy: ?
[20:36] <reisio> Emmy: hi
[20:36] <Emmy> so I got into ubuntu, installed boot repair from the terminal, ran a recommended repair, and restarted... straight into windows, no options
[20:36] <MeQuerSat> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/75067161/sun-java6-jre_6.26-1natty1_all.deb
[20:36] <MeQuerSat> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/75067024/sun-java6-plugin_6.26-1natty1_amd64.deb
[20:37] <reisio> Emmy: talking about this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[20:37] <puppy> hello
[20:37] <MeQuerSat> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/75067023/sun-java6-bin_6.26-1natty1_amd64.deb
[20:37] <MeQuerSat> Download those 3 files, rainbowwarrior
[20:37] <puppy> ci sono italiani?
[20:37] <kinsk> I'm having a problem dual booting ubuntu with windows 7 64bit; the installer does not recognize windows, is this because it's 32 ubuntu and 64 bit windows ?
[20:37] <histo>  Emmy do you have ubuntu on a different drive?
[20:37] <histo> Emmy: then windows that is?
[20:37] <MeQuerSat> rainbowwarrior, then open a terminal and type: cd Downloads
[20:37] <oCean> !it | puppy
[20:38] <Emmy> reisio, i don't think so, installed ubuntu onto a netbook which already had windows
[20:38] <MeQuerSat> rainbowwarrior, and then you can install the files by typing "sudo dpkg -i *deb"
[20:38] <reisio> kinsk: no, probably some other reason
[20:38] <Emmy> histo not as far as I know, i just clicked install inside windows, supposed to be in parallel
[20:38] <MeQuerSat> rainbowwarrior, just make sure those files are the only .deb files in your Downloads directory
[20:38] <kinsk> reisio: ok, thanks.
[20:38] <xjunior> Hello all
[20:38] <reisio> Emmy: oh, from wubi
[20:38] <ycr> hi, i have a problem with the gnome-shell panel and is that after changing the icon theme the panel is not displaying any icon. the shell extension are working but without icons any idea please
[20:38] <Emmy> no
[20:38] <Emmy> reisio, no, from a lili usb
[20:38] <xjunior> do you guys know how do I create a new user which his folder will be unencrypted
[20:38] <xjunior> ?
[20:38] <reisio> Emmy: so you rebooted from a USB?
[20:39] <Emmy> yes
[20:39] <histo> Emmy: you installed inside of windows?
[20:39] <reisio> Emmy: and it said it was done and you rebooted straight into Windows
[20:39] <Emmy> yes
[20:39] <reisio> okay
[20:39] <histo> Emmy: using wubi
[20:39] <reisio> Emmy: should probably try walking through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows now regardless
[20:39] <Emmy> histo, not using wubi
[20:39] <histo> Emmy: well ignore all the grub stuff we've been telling you then
[20:39] <rainbowwarrior> ok tyvm MeQuerSat
[20:39] <histo> Emmy: then how did you install inside of windows?
[20:39] <histo> reisio: he used wubi watch
[20:39] <reisio> Emmy: I am curious, though, you had free space next to your Windows install that you installed to?
[20:40] <awsoonn> I've been having trouble with my bluetooth devices ever since upgrading to 11.10, any tips on debugging bt issues?
[20:40] <reisio> histo: what's wubi watch?
[20:40] <histo> reisio: grub install is only seeing the windows install
[20:40] <reisio> histo: yes I know...
[20:40] <Emmy> from a lili usb, then I got 3 options, (it said 'inside' but it was the dual boot option)
[20:40] <reisio> or it isn't installed at all
[20:40] <reisio> Emmy: lili?
[20:40] <Emmy> live linux usb
[20:40] <MeQuerSat> rainbowwarrior, and dont forget to run this at the end "sudo apt-get remove openjdk-6-jre openjdk-6-jre-lib openjdk-6-jre-zero openjdk-6-jre-headless icedtea-6-jre-jamvm"
[20:40] <histo> !wubi | Emmy
[20:40] <niftylettuce> reisio: any other way I could do this?
[20:40] <reisio> Emmy: that's just your abbreviation for it?
[20:40] <reisio> niftylettuce: besides the VM?
[20:41] <niftylettuce> reisio: yea
[20:41] <Emmy> didn't use wubi!
[20:41] <reisio> niftylettuce: yes, there probably _is_ a text only install
[20:41] <Emmy> no, reisio
[20:41] <reisio> niftylettuce: and there's something else called debootstrap
[20:41] <histo> Emmy: okay well I don't know what you mean by 'inside' then.
[20:41] <reisio> Emmy: so something actually named lili?
[20:41] <Emmy> that's what the option was called
[20:41] <histo> Emmy: you have to resize your windows partition to make room for the ubuntu install
[20:41] <xjunior> do you guys know how do I create a new user which his folder will be unencrypted?
[20:41] <histo> Emmy: then it probably did a wubi install.
[20:41] <rainbowwarrior> ok tyvm MeQuerSat
[20:41] <Emmy> hold on, let me just tell you what i di
[20:41] <Pici> histo: perhaps Emmy is think of lilo?
[20:41] <Emmy> did*
[20:42] <Emmy> it's not wubi!
[20:42] <ssta> you don't wanna install with debootstrap manually
[20:42] <reisio> histo: if it had, there would still have been a boot option
[20:42] <Emmy> hold on,
[20:42] <histo> xjunior: default should be unencrypted
[20:42] <histo> reisio: not if the boot.ini got jacked
[20:42] <MeQuerSat> Emmy, did you install ubuntu inside windows?
[20:42] <niftylettuce> reisio: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1728526&page=3 this post says something about turning on semaphores
[20:42] <Emmy> 1. I made a live usb to install, from an iso thing and a linux usb creator (called lili on the site)
[20:43] <reisio> histo: yes, you have an answer for everything don't you :p
[20:43] <Emmy> 2. I booted off the usb and chose to install, not try, ubuntu
[20:43] <reisio> niftylettuce: the line that has linux /path/something
[20:43] <mzaza> I am using the command-line ftp command to connect to my ftp account. When I write send, to send files from my local pc to remote pc it asks me for the path of the file, when I try to click tab to help me get the correct path it doesn't work and like that it will be impossible for me to copy locale files is there a way to view local files from inside the ftp command-line program?
[20:43] <reisio> niftylettuce: they want you to add ' i915.semaphores=1' to the end of it, then hit 'b' to boot
[20:44] <Emmy> 3. I choose "install inside windows", described as installing alongside, and having an option everytime I boot, as opposed to instead of windows or "something else" where you mess with partitions
[20:44] <reisio> mzaza: try using mc ftp:/user:pass@location/
[20:44] <histo> Emmy: if you did that and resized the hard drive to make space for ubuntu and ubuntu was actually installed to the hard drive. Then you need to install grub2 to the MBR of the drive to get a menu
[20:44] <Emmy> 4. I restarted, got no options for ubuntu
[20:44] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | Emmy
[20:44] <Emmy> no, I didnt resize anythin
[20:44] <reisio> Emmy: can you link to this lili you're talking about?
[20:45] <Emmy> I did the auto install
[20:45] <Emmy> theadmin?
[20:45] <histo> Emmy: then what ever option you picked modified windows bootloader. When it did that it must have failed for some reason
[20:45] <histo> Emmy: I didn't know that was even a possibility from a livecd
[20:45] <reisio> histo: there's no proof the boot loader has been modified at all
[20:45] <reisio> that's the problem :p
[20:45] <Pici> reisio: this seems to be it: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[20:45] <Emmy> well, I installed the boot repair thing from ubuntu too, that did a recommended repair
[20:46] <johnficca> I can't open alsamixer how can i fix this I can open it as root??
[20:46] <Jax> do i need a special bs= option to dd if i want to clone a bootable usb stick?
[20:46] <reisio> Pici: and as soon as Emmy says that, it will matter
[20:46] <Emmy> which made no difference, still boots straight to windows
[20:46] <reisio> Emmy: you're on the Windows right now?
[20:46] <Emmy> pici that's what I used
[20:46] <Emmy> yes
[20:46] <reisio> Emmy: do you know how big the hard disk is?
[20:46] <Emmy> 250
[20:46] <ycr> i have a problem with the gnome-shell panel and is that after changing the icon theme the panel is not displaying any icon. the shell extension are working but without icons any idea please
[20:46] <reisio> Emmy: is that what Windows Explorer says Windows has available? 250GB?
[20:47] <Emmy> i assume it's done 50/50
[20:47] <reisio> Emmy: if so your install didn't work
[20:47] <johnficca> if I run sudo alsamixer it runs and I have sound but not if i just run alsamixer
[20:47] <xangua> ycr: tried to restart your session¿
[20:47] <reisio> Emmy: at all I mean, obviously it hasn't worked :p
[20:47] <histo> Emmy: is your windows drive smaller now?
[20:47] <johnficca> I have a minimal ubuntu setup
[20:47] <Emmy> c: 99gb, d:117 gb
[20:47] <reisio> johnficca: user in audio group?
[20:47] <Jordan_U> Emmy: Ubuntu's installer normally only has an "alongside" option. As far as I know it's never called "inside" except in the case of Wubi. So I think you either 1: weren't using an official Ubuntu iso 2: Are mistaken about the word "inside" being used or 3: actually did use Wubi.
[20:48] <reisio> Emmy: interesting
[20:48] <mzaza> reisio: Thanks, I'm little bit lost. But i'll try to figure out my way through :)
[20:48] <reisio> Emmy: and before it was only C?
[20:48] <rainbowwarrior> MeQuerSat,  nope still crashing :(
[20:48] <johnficca> reisio: is there a command for that
[20:48] <reisio> mzaza: tab and insert
[20:48] <johnficca> I'm only running scrotwm
[20:48] <reisio> johnficca: as non-root, run 'groups' to see if you're in the 'audio' group
[20:48] <johnficca> reisio:
[20:48] <Emmy> Jordan_U, I know, but it most definitely said inside, and was also definitely the ubuntu live one, not wubi
[20:48] <MeQuerSat> rainbowwarrior, what does java -version give you now?
[20:48] <johnficca> reisio: ok
[20:48] <histo> Emmy: what's on d: ?
[20:48] <Emmy> (ive done wubi before, I know what it is)
[20:48] <niftylettuce> reisio: I don't know where to add that in the boot grub menu for the alternate install
[20:49] <johnficca> reisio: nope I'm not in the audio group
[20:49] <reisio> niftylettuce: the first line you see that starts with 'linux /some/path'
[20:49] <Emmy> I was surprised it said inside, but it had a diagram of a circle with half coloured in, and the desciption was of dual boot
[20:49] <reisio> niftylettuce: you add it to the end, after a space
[20:49] <reisio> johnficca: okay you should be, run 'gpasswd', it will tell you how to add the user to the group
[20:49] <histo> Emmy: can you boot to the thumb drive again and select the try ubuntu option
[20:49] <Jordan_U> Emmy: If you can boot from an Ubuntu liveCD/USB and run boot info script its RESULTS.txt would help clarify things greatly.
[20:49] <johnficca> reisio: ok thanks let me see
[20:49] <Emmy> nothing's on d
[20:49] <histo> Emmy: and run sudo fdisk -l    and pastebin the results
[20:49] <Pici> Emmy: that project doesn't seem to be meant for installing Ubuntu, just running it as a live environment.  I think you'd be better off using the official usb images.
[20:50] <reisio> Emmy: did d exist before?
[20:50] <Emmy> yes reisio
[20:50] <histo> Pici: what project? did he install some sort of peristent thumbdrive thing?
[20:50] <Emmy> hold on everyone
[20:50] <Emmy> (also, histo, I'm a girl..)
[20:50] <reisio> Emmy: do you need it?  You could just install Ubuntu _normally_ from a livecd/usb to that partition if you don't need it
[20:50] <histo> Emmy: if you are using an official ubuntu iso don't know what to tell you
[20:50] <Pici> histo: http://www.linuxliveusb.com
[20:51] <ycr> xangua: yes i did all even i reinstall the gnome-panel
[20:51] <reisio> Pici: she never said that
[20:51] <johnficca> reisio: ok i did it but I'm still not in the audio group
[20:51] <reisio> johnficca: su - username
[20:51] <reisio> johnficca: or log out and back in
[20:51] <xangua> ycr: then maybe that icon theme is not fully compatible with gnome3
[20:51] <Pici> reisio: she confirmed it when I pasted it earlier.
[20:51] <Xelmep> I need help about counter strike server
[20:51] <johnficca> reisio: ok
[20:51] <Emmy> so the thing I did wasn't the official linux install??
[20:51] <reisio> Pici: so she did
[20:51] <Phoenix87> I want to create a desktop entry file to launch the command "LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype ". How can I do tahat?
[20:52] <Emmy> A guy on here earlier helped me to install it using that
[20:52] <histo> Emmy: right
[20:52] <reisio> Emmy: there's no official for Linux, but there is for Ubuntu
[20:52] <Jordan_U> Pici: It would be the first I've heard of such a tool modifying ubiquity, and that sounds rather unlikely.
[20:52] <niftylettuce> reisio: https://gist.github.com/389e5f3d3bc2c0ac4150 this is what is in there now
[20:52] <reisio> Emmy: it's sort of academic at this point, the install apparently hasn't taken
[20:52] <reisio> Emmy: if you know where it is, we can possibly fix the bootloader to point to it
[20:52] <Emmy> not at all?
[20:53] <reisio> Emmy: it's going to be hard for any of us to know what it did without downloading that thing you downloaded and playing with it ourselves
[20:53] <histo> Emmy: there are directions on the download page to create a usb stick in windows to install from. God knows what that project page creates
[20:53] <reisio> it could very well take less time to do an ordinary install from official Ubuntu media
[20:53] <histo> Emmy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[20:53] <rainbowwarrior> MeQuerSat,  :- java -version
[20:53] <rainbowwarrior> java version "1.6.0_26"
[20:53] <rainbowwarrior> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_26-b03)
[20:53] <rainbowwarrior> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.1-b02, mixed mode)
[20:53] <Emmy> I thought that's what I was doing :(
[20:53] <histo> !paste | rainbowwarrior
[20:53] <Emmy> ok, so I just have to start again?
[20:53] <reisio> Emmy: you may well have been
[20:53] <reisio> Emmy: it's just hard for us to tell, being unfamiliar with that website
[20:53] <mzaza> reisio: Isn't there any other options? straight forward easy command-line ftp client?
[20:53] <Pici> Jordan_U: You're right that it may not have affected ubiquity, but without looking at it we can't be sure what other changes they made to how the usb stick itself is defined.  It could be nothing, but it could be something crucial.
[20:54] <histo> Emmy: look at part 2 where it says burn your CD or create a bootable disk
[20:54] <reisio> Emmy: I think it would be the best use of your time to start again, with official media, yes
[20:54] <reisio> mzaza: I like lftp
[20:54] <Emmy> what was the thing about me going into ubuntu and getting some info on what it's done?
[20:54] <ycr> xangua: i tried to back the default icon theme but now is not loading any icon in the panel
[20:54] <histo> Emmy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[20:54] <reisio> mzaza: lftp -u user location
[20:54] <reisio> mzaza: type in password
[20:54] <reisio> mzaza: cd & ls as required
[20:54] <reisio> mzaza: put for single file, mput for multiple
[20:54] <reisio> mzaza: or get and mget
[20:54] <histo> Emmy: Read #2 on that page while you download
[20:55] <reisio> Emmy: you'd have to find it first
[20:55] <reisio> Emmy: if you want to boot from a live Linux and come back in here, we can maybe figure some things out
[20:55] <reisio> Emmy: it might take some time, though
[20:55] <rainbowwarrior> when i tried to use paste bin i got this error :- An error has occurred in the Pastebin software. Please notify the administrators
[20:55] <Emmy> alright, how about if i go get the other pc, then I can talk whilst im in the live linux?
[20:55] <Xelmep> I need help about counter strike server
[20:56] <Emmy> then we could maybe get it to work?
[20:56] <Emmy> oh, one more thing
[20:56] <bf4648> I'm having trouble executing a shell script on aphache server
[20:56] <reisio> Emmy: maybe
[20:56] <reisio> bf4648: yes?
[20:56] <reisio> Xelmep: yes?
[20:56] <Emmy> when I did the 'try linux' on the desktop there was an "install ubuntu 11.10" icon
[20:56] <reisio> rainbowwarrior: use dpaste.com
[20:56] <ania> ha
[20:56] <reisio> Emmy: and?
[20:56] <Emmy> well, I thought it was wierd
[20:56] <Emmy> should I try that?
[20:56] <reisio> Emmy: that's how the ordinary image is
[20:56] <Emmy> oh
[20:57] <reisio> Emmy: you can do that, if you have partition space to install to
[20:57] <reisio> Emmy: like for example your D: drive, if there's nothing there
[20:57] <Emmy> but if it's installed then why was there an install icon?
[20:57] <Xelmep> reisio: i want to install and run cs server in my VPS
[20:57] <Xelmep> i need help how to do it
[20:57] <reisio> Emmy: the live OS is read only, it is the same every boot
[20:57] <Emmy> oh
[20:57] <bf4648> I'm using drupal and using $result = shell_exec('/home/bf4648/Desktop/test.sh'); echo "<pre>$result</pre>"; but it is not working
[20:57] <mzaza> reisio: How to force accept certificate verification?
[20:57] <reisio> Emmy: typically, anyways
[20:57] <Emmy> so it didn't know I'd installed it
[20:57] <reisio> mzaza: for FTP?
[20:57] <reisio> Emmy: probably
[20:57] <mzaza> reisio: Fot lftp, yes.
[20:58] <rainbowwarrior> ok ty reisio
[20:58] <mzaza> *for
[20:58] <oCean> bf4648: that's not ubuntu specific. Maybe try #httpd channel
[20:58] <rainbowwarrior> MeQuerSat, this is what i get :- http://dpaste.com/663479/
[20:58] <Emmy> alright
[20:58] <reisio> mzaza: sorry no idea
[20:58] <Emmy> I'll be back in a bit
[20:58] <mzaza> reisio: np, thanks =)
[20:58] <reisio> mzaza: usually people who want secure transfers don't use FTP, they use SSH/SFTP
[20:59] <Xelmep> reisio: i want to install and run cs server in my VPS
[20:59] <reisio> mzaza: ##linux might know
[20:59] <reisio> Xelmep: you said
[20:59] <Xelmep> reisio: how to it i need help
[20:59] <reisio> Xelmep: where is the package?
[20:59] <MeQuerSat> rainbowwarrior, that means youre running the original sun java version 6
[20:59] <Xelmep> i don`t had installed yet
[20:59] <Xelmep> i need help how to do it
[21:00] <ycr> xangua: do u know an icon theme complete compatible with gnome shell to try it
[21:00] <ycr> ?
[21:00] <reisio> Xelmep: I know, where do you get it
[21:00] <Jordan_U> reisio: I personally think that before we have Emmy try to install again we figure out the current state of things so they don't end up left with two Ubuntu installs.
[21:00] <MeQuerSat> rainbowwarrior, which means that the applet youre trying to load is actually broken
[21:00] <reisio> ycr: http://art.gnome.org/ might have some
[21:00] <Phoenix87> solved thank you. I made a bash script called skype_v4l in /usr/bin/ with LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype in it and created a desktop entry pointing to it
[21:00] <Xelmep> reisio: i don`t have downloaded package
[21:00] <reisio> Jordan_U: not sure it would matter, but that's what she wants to do regardless
[21:00] <xangua> ycr: ubuntu icon theme¿ i am still in lucid, so no idea
[21:00] <reisio> Xelmep: do you know _where_ to download it
[21:00] <MeQuerSat> rainbowwarrior, does the applet crash with an error message?
[21:00] <Xelmep> reisio: i need help about it, how to get install and configure
[21:00] <rainbowwarrior> no MeQuerSat
[21:01] <reisio> Xelmep: I see
[21:01] <Em_> what's the idea Jordan_U ?
[21:01] <reisio> Xelmep: read some of these: http://www.google.com/search?q=counterstrike%20server%20ubuntu
[21:01] <Xelmep> reisio: in My Ubuntu server 10.04 i have access by SSH and webmin
[21:01] <lohengreen> look on my kick on #gentoo .. lolol
[21:01] <MeQuerSat> rainbowwarrior, did you try running firefox from terminal and see?
[21:01] <reisio> lohengreen: what'd you do, say something?
[21:01] <Pici> lohengreen: we don't care. Try to stay on-topic here.
[21:01] <lohengreen> rofl
[21:02] <reisio> Em_: ?
[21:02] <bf4648> I'm in #httpd & I'm trying to ask a question but I'm betting the message, "can not send to channel"...any ideas why/
[21:02] <bf4648> ?
[21:02] <reisio> bf4648: /msg nickserv help register
[21:02] <reisio> bf4648: /msg nickserv help identify
[21:02] <Em_> I don't know what's happening anymore
[21:02] <oCean> reisio: please don't point people to google searches here
[21:02] <rainbowwarrior> yes MeQuerSat  and same thing
[21:02] <Pici> !register > bf4648
[21:02] <reisio> bf4648: actually I'm not sure they're blocking unidentified, you could be banned
[21:02] <MeQuerSat> rainbowwarrior, may I ask which java applet it is?
[21:03] <reisio> bf4648: sorry, yes they are :D
[21:03] <niftylettuce> reisio: any idea why adding that line to boot cfg allowed it to install? what is semaphores?
[21:03] <Em_> by the way, I used the lili usb creator, but I think the iso image was the official one
[21:03] <reisio> oCean: oh?  Should I just wait for you to help them?
[21:03]  * reisio waits
[21:03] <bf4648> how do I see your private message?  I'm completely new @ this
[21:03] <Em_> was that what you guys thought?
[21:03] <reisio> niftylettuce: some graphics issue, as you suspected
[21:04] <rainbowwarrior> its for my friends psychic and mediums chat room on :- www.mediumystics.co.uk
[21:04] <reisio> niftylettuce: glad you got it working
[21:04] <niftylettuce> reisio: \o ty
[21:04] <Jordan_U> Em_: Boot from an Ubuntu LiveCD/USB, choose "Try Ubuntu" then follow the instructions from ubottu for running boot info script. The post the boot info script RESULTS.txt to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com and give us a link to it.
[21:04] <reisio> Em_: probably, but can't say for sure without trying
[21:04] <reisio> Em_: if it was purple and had white text, it probably was
[21:04] <lohengreen> look on the reason of my kick on #gentoo
[21:04] <Em_> thanks
[21:05] <reisio> lohengreen: just tell us if you want us to know so badly
[21:05] <llutz> lohengreen: Do you have any ubuntu support related question?
[21:05] <oCean> reisio: don't be cocky. Referring to google and/or lmgtfy are not acceptable support offerings
[21:05] <Em_> Jordan_U, where are the ubottu instructions?
[21:05] <reisio> oCean: I'm not being cocky
[21:05] <iwo> hey, i'm trying to add a new service so i've added a script to /etc/init.d. when i try to start/stop/restart the service like: sudo service myservice start, i get an error like "myservice: unrecognized service"
[21:05] <iwo> what am i missing?
[21:05] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | Em_
[21:05] <reisio> I gave him something instead of nothing
[21:05] <Em_> on it
[21:05] <iwo> is there some additional step required for the service tool to recognise my new service?
[21:05] <rainbowwarrior> MeQuerSat,  :- its for my friends psychic and mediums chat room on :- www.mediumystics.co.uk
[21:06] <ycr> some one has another idea any icon pack is working in my gnome-shell panel
[21:06] <oCean> reisio: don't do it again, that's my point. I'm not going to discuss channel rules here.
[21:06] <MeQuerSat> thats pretty embarrassing
[21:06] <reisio> oCean: where are the channel rules?
[21:06] <oCean> !guidelines > reisio
[21:06] <oCean> !coc > reisio
[21:06] <ycr> all other aplications work perfect
[21:06] <reisio> oCean: and if I don't find a rule in there about linking to google, where do I discuss it with you?
[21:06] <emmy> !bootinfo
[21:06] <shomon> hi, I was here earlier asking about video playing at double speed with no sound on flash and all video players. I got a thread saying to turn off Manhattan HDMI audio - but I'm running lubuntu - what is the package I need so as to have a system->preferences->sound -> hardware - I currently only have system->preferences
[21:06] <oCean> !google > reisio
[21:06] <MeQuerSat> rainbowwarrior, you could download the java applet and execute it with "java filename.js"
[21:06] <reisio> oCean: I didn't tell anyone to google it
[21:07] <oCean> reisio: you can use #ubuntu-ops to discuss such things
[21:07] <iwo> ah, i'm missing the execute bit on my script xD
[21:08] <rainbowwarrior> MeQuerSat,  how would i be able to download it please ?
[21:09] <MeQuerSat> rainbowwarrior, check the page source and try to find the source for the java applet
[21:09] <rainbowwarrior> ok ty
[21:10] <carl_> lu
[21:10] <carl_> xdcc send #138
[21:11] <bf4648> hello
[21:11] <rainbowwarrior> ok il have a look now tyvm for your help MeQuerSat
[21:11] <MeQuerSat> np
[21:12] <rodrigo> Algum brasileiro online?
[21:12] <genii-around> !br
[21:12] <reisio> rodrigo: #ubuntu-br
[21:12] <princepstenebror> jo soy italiano
[21:13] <rainbowwarrior> MeQuerSat,  would this be it ? :- clientscript/yui/yahoo-dom-event/yahoo-dom-event.js?v=381
[21:13] <rodrigo> Algum brasileiro online?
[21:13] <Pici> !br | rodrigo
[21:13] <grandy> hello, just installed ubuntu and when i hover on the left side the dock shows up but also this orange border appears around the left half of the screen adnd doesn't go away unless i maximize one of the windows... anyone know what this is?
[21:13] <rodrigo> #ubuntu-br
[21:13] <reisio> grandy: sure you aren't dragging a window?
[21:13] <princepstenebror> #ubuntu-it
[21:14] <genii-around> rodrigo: /join #ubuntu-br
[21:14] <grandy> reisio: yeah, definitely just moving the mouse to the dock area, no button press at all
[21:14] <bf4648> test
[21:14] <rodrigo> Tanks
[21:15] <XGaryG> With Ubuntu switching from Evolution to Thunderbird, what is the default calendar program now.
[21:15] <vademecum> lubuntu -- fail to install bootloader-- install program says I can't use /dev/sda1? Gives me choice of /dev/sda and some other partitions where another OS resides.
[21:15] <MeQuerSat> rainbowwarrior, probably not
[21:15] <MeQuerSat> rainbowwarrior, maybe the file is called .jar
[21:15] <reisio> grandy: maybe it's a feature outlining where minimized windows would be if you made them show, dunno
[21:15] <rainbowwarrior> ok ty
[21:15] <reisio> XGaryG: don't think thunderbird has one, but there are extensions, and things like sunbird
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> vademecum: use the liveCD and you can chroot to the installed OS and reinstate Grub2
[21:15] <grandy> reisio: that might be it actually, do you know how i'd turn it off?
[21:16] <grandy> reisio: it's mad annoying :)
[21:16] <Jordan_U> vademecum: grub's boot sector should be installed to the mbr. So sda, *not* sda1.
[21:16] <reisio> grandy: sorry no, but I'd be surprised if that's the case if it hasn't come up at ubuntuforums.org
[21:16] <rainbowwarrior> nope no jar file either
[21:16] <vademecum> Jordan_U: is that where my original ubuntu-10.04 is?
[21:16] <grandy> reisio: ahh ok cool i'll check... thanks
[21:16] <ruser> okay, i'm back with my questions i recovered my partition table, but still can't get grubto boot windows.  i canmount the partition though
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> XGaryG: http://www.ekoob.com/best-calendar-applications-for-ubuntu-10427/
[21:17] <MeQuerSat> rainbowwarrior, if you can provide me the .html I can take a look
[21:17] <vademecum> Jordan_U: How do I check?
[21:17] <reisio> XGaryG: also you can use evolution if you want
[21:17] <Jordan_U> vademecum: That is where Ubuntu installs grub's boot sector by default.
[21:18] <ruser> okay, i'm back with my questions i recovered my partition table, but still can't get grub to boot windows.  i can mount the partition though. can someone help me getting it to work?
[21:18]  * vademecum where did I get the /dev/sda1 idea?
[21:18] <rainbowwarrior> MeQuerSat its in php and not html
[21:18] <MeQuerSat> doesnt matter :)
[21:18] <boxuser> v
[21:18] <boxuser> q: i am running ubuntu 10.10 with an up to date chrome browser. i am trying to view videos using the "60 minutes" app from the chrome store, but it doesn't work. everything seems fine, but i get no video
[21:19] <reisio> boxuser: you're using Chrome and not Chromium?
[21:19] <XGaryG> I am looking for one that woorks with my Google Calendar.
[21:19] <wujek> run chrome from terminal, maybe U'll see some logs when try to play video
[21:20] <xangua> XGaryG: with thunderbird you need to add the lightning addon for calendar support
[21:20] <rainbowwarrior> erm the code is too long to put in dpaste
[21:20] <emmy> hey guys, do I have to install something for the boot info thing?
[21:21] <shomon> hi, I was here earlier asking about video playing at double speed with no sound on flash and all video players. I got a thread saying to turn off Manhattan HDMI audio - but I'm running lubuntu - what is the package I need so as to have a system->preferences->sound -> hardware - I currently only have system->preferences
[21:21] <shomon> sorry to repeat...
[21:22] <reisio> !bootinfo > reisio
[21:22] <wujek> shomon: do U have sound in system? When You try to play mp3 with rhythmbox?
[21:22] <reisio> emmy: what does 'which pastebinit' say?
[21:22] <ycr> i need help  im using gnome-shell and my panel is not displaying any icon just the letters for the gnome-shell.extensions there is nothing but the extensions work but there is not icon or the icon is not visible
[21:23] <emmy> reisio: what, sorry?
[21:23] <rainbowwarrior> MeQuerSat :- http://pastebin.com/Lk1ny8d8
[21:23] <XGaryG> I'm installing lightning now.  Thanks.
[21:23] <reisio> emmy: you have a terminal open on the live OS?
[21:23] <emmy> yup
[21:23] <bijay> hey guys I just upgraded to Ubuntu 11.10 from 11.04, I was using Ubuntu Classic before, I got the Classic back by installing gnome-session-fallback as explained in http://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2011/10/23/ubuntu-11-10-fix-how-to-add-the-classic-desktop-and-gnome-3-shell-as-login-options/
[21:23] <reisio> emmy: can you tell me what the output of the command 'which pastebinit' is?
[21:23] <reisio> bijay: hi
[21:24] <emmy> reisio, no output, gives me a new command line
[21:24] <bijay> hi reisis
[21:24] <bijay> hi reisio
[21:24] <pooltable> help in am update my computer and it ask this but i am useing just ubuntu Xubuntu 11.10 _Oneiric Ocelot_ - Release i386 (20111012)' is required
[21:24] <bijay> But I lost all my Panel settings
[21:24] <bijay> How can I get them back?
[21:24] <ycr> can someone help me with my problem
[21:24] <pooltable> how do i get around this
[21:24] <reisio> emmy: okay, run this: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[21:25] <genii-around> pooltable: Tell the Software Center not to use the CD
[21:25] <RavenHursT> So... how do I recover my xorg.conf?  I've been trying like hell to get the nvidia drivers installed in an Ubuntu 11.10 vbox VM and it's just not happening.. now it just hangs on boot and all I can do is drop to command prompt through recovery mode...
[21:25] <MeQuerSat> rainbowwarrior, I saw this: chatwindow = window.open('chat.php'
[21:25] <reisio> ycr: which problem?
[21:25] <MeQuerSat> are you on the chat.php page?
[21:25] <emmy> reisio "unable to locate package pastebinit"
[21:25] <reisio> RavenHursT: can you run sudo nvidia-xconfig ?
[21:25] <ycr> i need help  im using gnome-shell and my panel is not displaying any icon just the letters for the gnome-shell.extensions there is nothing but the extensions work but there is not icon or the icon is not visible
[21:25] <RavenHursT> reisio.. that's what started the hang.. ugh
[21:25] <reisio> emmy: huh... how about ping -c 3 www.yahoo.com ?
[21:26] <reisio> RavenHursT: why'd you run it in the first place?
[21:26] <pooltable> genii how do i do that ???
[21:26] <RavenHursT> reisio: cause that's what I thought had to happen in order to enable the driver?
[21:26] <reisio> RavenHursT: ah
[21:26] <philipballew_> Question: is it possible to remane a kernal?
[21:26] <reisio> RavenHursT: okay start with mv /etx/X11/xorg.conf /home/user/xorg.conf.backup01
[21:26] <ia9371> hello
[21:26] <reisio> RavenHursT: then see if you can get X running at all
[21:26] <reisio> ia9371: hi
[21:27] <reisio> philipballew_: yes
[21:27] <MeQuerSat> philipballew, do you mean the rename the Name that displays when you boot Ubuntu?
[21:27] <boxuser> reisio, i am using chromium-browser actually
[21:27] <emmy> reisio: ping unknown host www.yahoo.com
[21:27] <reisio> RavenHursT: sorry that should be /etc/, not /etx/
[21:27] <reisio> emmy: ah, bummer, no network
[21:27] <philipballew_> MeQuerSat, yeah. That would be it
[21:27] <RavenHursT> so basically get rid of my xorg.conf reisio?
[21:27] <reisio> RavenHursT: yes
[21:27] <rainbowwarrior> MeQuerSat hm so now i have to find chat.php and see the code inside that ?
[21:27] <RavenHursT> I don't have to replace it w/ anything? reisio
[21:27] <reisio> RavenHursT: no
[21:27] <ruser> can someone help me setup my dualboot, after i messed up the pratition table list, i finished recovering it and can mount ntfs, but can't boot into windows :/ any tips? os-probe doens't find anyhting
[21:27] <emmy> reisio: ctcp version?
[21:27] <shomon> hi wujek - no, actually but I just found this when I installed ibsdl1.2debian-all which replaced -alsa
[21:27] <RavenHursT> reisio: ok.. trying
[21:28] <ia9371> I want to network Ubuntu and MAc OSX computer together should i use SMB or AFP
[21:28] <MeQuerSat> rainbowwarrior, what I would do: said a mail to the website with your java -version and say that it crashes
[21:28] <reisio> emmy: was curious if you were on the livecd for IRC, or your other computer; it said the latter
[21:28] <MeQuerSat> rainbowwarrior, too much work to find out yourself
[21:28] <emmy> ah
[21:28] <rainbowwarrior> ok tyvm for your help MeQuerSat  :)
[21:28] <reisio> emmy: run 'sudo fdisk -l' and tell us how many /dev/foo#'s there are
[21:28] <shomon> aah wujek sound seems to also go twice as fast...
[21:28] <greenwicher> hello, i created a launcher at the desktop, chose an icon, and from the gnome-desktop-item-edit i can see the icon but in the desktop i just see the default one. What should I do?
[21:29] <rainbowwarrior> your help has been much appreciated MeQuerSat  :o)
[21:29] <MeQuerSat> np
[21:29] <Yancho_> guys, i am having problems getting my tvtuner to work. this is my dmsg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/753854/ and each frequency in tvtime-scanner is giving : Checking 948.25 MHz:videoinput: Driver refuses to stop streaming: Invalid argument .. this is my lspci : http://paste.ubuntu.com/753856/ and this is my lsmod: http://paste.ubuntu.com/753858/ .. this is modinfo on the particular chip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/753860/ - any idea what i can do please?
[21:29] <MeQuerSat> philipballew, it can be done, but its recommended to leave it like it is
[21:29] <MeQuerSat> philipballew, to what would you like to have it changed?
[21:29] <RavenHursT> reisio: ugh... yeah.. won't let me... I'm root and yet it won't let me make any damn changes to it!  "Read-only file system"  I tried chmoding it to 777. same result :-(
[21:29] <reisio> Yancho_: don't cross post, please
[21:29] <reisio> RavenHursT: ah
[21:30] <philipballew_> MeQuerSat, alright, I installed backtrack alongside my default ubuntu install andbacktrack shows up in grub as ubuntu as well
[21:30] <reisio> RavenHursT: did you do something special when you booted up?
[21:30] <trism> greenwicher: gnome-desktop-item-edit just appends an Icon= line to the desktop file, so if you see inconsistances, you should edit the .desktop file and remove the extra Icon= lines
[21:30] <Yancho_> reisio, trying my luck on both channels :S
[21:30] <reisio> Yancho_: I know, hence my msg
[21:30] <RavenHursT> reisio: other than drop to command prompt via GRUB recovery mode?  nope.
[21:30] <emmy> reisio: can't see anything with /dev/foo ... lots of dev/sda dev/sdbs, also says "This doesn't look like a partition drive, perhaps you have selected the wrong device" in the middle of the tables of numbers
[21:31] <reisio> RavenHursT: ah :)
[21:31] <reisio> RavenHursT: you could move it from a live CD fairly easily
[21:31] <MeQuerSat> philipballew, take a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Custom_Menu_Entries
[21:31] <ycr> my gnome shell extension dont show any icon but they work ,for exampel i dont have the icon for mediaplayer extension neither the controls but in the space where the icon should be
[21:31] <reisio> RavenHursT: or try mount -o remount,rw /
[21:32] <reisio> emmy: heh
[21:32] <reisio> emmy: k, 'foo' is a placeholder people use in examples
[21:32] <RavenHursT> reisio: what is this "live cd" I keep reading about?
[21:32] <emmy> reisio, oh sorry. (remember I don't really know what I'm doing)
[21:32] <reisio> RavenHursT: for example the Ubuntu install image
[21:32] <shomon> Hi, I have video playing at double speed with no sound on flash and all video and audio players. I thought I should turn off Manhattan HDMI audio - but I'm running lubuntu: what is the package I need so as to have a system->preferences->sound -> hardware - I currently only have system->preferences - I've also tried installing libsdl1.2debian-all but it didn't seem to make a difference
[21:32] <reisio> RavenHursT: is a "live" OS, that runs from the CD (or USB, etc.) entirely in RAM
[21:32] <reisio> emmy: just saying :P
[21:32] <emmy> reisio, ok so /dev/sda 1-4, also /dev/sdb 1-4
[21:33] <greenwicher> trism true, i deleted the help-browser icon line, but now instead of getting the one i chose i get another default one
[21:33] <reisio> emmy: above the sdB ones, it says some value in GB?  What value
[21:33] <emmy> reisio:
[21:33] <RavenHursT> reisio: yeah.. I've got that... how do I get that mounted and pull over the xorg.conf.. and if I do.. how do I overwrite it when I can't apparently do ANYthing the one that's currently in my /etc/X11 dir?
[21:33] <emmy> reisio: disk /dev/sdb: 1039 mb
[21:33] <reisio> RavenHursT: that's just because you've booted into a cut down mode
[21:33] <reisio> emmy: okay, and your USB stick is 1GB?
[21:34] <emmy> correct
[21:34] <reisio> emmy: ok, so sdb is your usb stick, we can ignore that
[21:34] <genii-around> pooltable: I'm currently on another desktop so don't have access to the Software Center to guide you through it. But it's in there somewhere. Alternately: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   and put a # in front of the line which wants the CD
[21:34] <reisio> emmy: how many sda's?
[21:34] <emmy> reisio 4
[21:34] <emmy> reisio 250 gb
[21:34] <RavenHursT> reisio: so you're saying boot up the install CD and then try to access that file via that RAM OS?
[21:34] <reisio> RavenHursT: try: mount -o remount,rw /
[21:35] <reisio> RavenHursT: you could, yes, but try that command above first
[21:36] <reisio> emmy: okay the exact numbers aren't important, but if you could say in hundreds/thousands/millions how many blocks each has
[21:36] <RavenHursT> reisio: warning maximal mount count reached, running e2fsck is recommended
[21:36] <reisio> emmy: and what the System column for each is
[21:36] <RavenHursT> reisio: re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro
[21:36] <reisio> RavenHursT: still can't mv the file?
[21:37] <RavenHursT> reisio: oh.. didn't know I was supposed to try again.. let me see... lol
[21:37] <emmy> reisio: sda 1 2000 209000000 105000000 7 hpfs/ntfs/exFAT   <== like that?
[21:37] <reisio> RavenHursT: it's just definitive
[21:37] <reisio> emmy: yeah, I only need a general idea of the Blocks value, and the System value
[21:37] <RavenHursT> reisio: yup.. that worked :-)  Now what?
[21:37] <reisio> RavenHursT: reboot, see if X works in any form
[21:37] <reisio> brbv
[21:38] <RavenHursT> reisio: just reb... ok
[21:38] <ycr> hello?? can someone help me with my problem of icons ?
[21:38] <Steak> Hey guys, my system just hung.  Was about to play a youtube video via flash in firefox.  Can't move mouse cursor, and suspecting it's just FF crashing my system
[21:38] <Steak> Can
[21:38] <emmy> ok reisio, sda2 blocks 15700000 hidden W95 fat32
[21:39] <Steak> Can't kill it with the mouse, are there any keyboard shortcuts to kill this thing?
[21:39] <emmy> reisio sda3 blocks 123000000 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
[21:40] <emmy> reisio sda4 blocks: 16384 EFI (FAT -12/16/32)
[21:40] <Steak> (on ubuntu 11.10). Also running Live so I really don't want to restart.  Tried ctrl-alt backspace, ctrl-alt-del, and alt-f2, nothing happened with either
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> Steak: ALT+K+print screen
[21:41] <emmy> Sorry, reisio, here it is all together:  sda 1 105000000 hpfs/ntfs/exFAT, sda2 blocks 15700000 hidden W95 fat32, sda3 blocks 123000000 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT, sda4 blocks: 16384 EFI (FAT -12/16/32)
[21:42] <greenwicher> why cant i open more than one folder at same time? :S
[21:42] <reisio> Steak: you could try CTRL+ALT+F2, login, then killall firefox
[21:42] <reisio> Steak: or killall whatever pgrep -l fire says
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> Steak: you can re-enable CTRL+Alt+BackSpace in keyboard settings
[21:42] <reisio> that would kill your entire X
[21:42] <cebrere> ha i wonder if facebook has an irc server
[21:43] <RavenHursT> reisio: ok.. it booted.. thank GOD!  any idea how the hell I'm supposed to install this darn video driver w/o breaking the darn thing??
[21:43] <tensorpudding> greenwicher, in what
[21:43] <reisio> RavenHursT: you tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia ?
[21:43] <ruser> can someone help me setup my dualboot, after i messed up the pratition table list, i finished recovering it and can mount ntfs, but can't boot into windows :/ any tips? os-probe doens't find anyhting
[21:43] <kamelot314> @STEAK : BTW, Install it on your HDD ;)
[21:43] <ewook> cebrere: kind of? add your 'friends' into bitlbee ^^
[21:43] <reisio> emmy: okay let's see...
[21:43] <Steak> Ok none of those things did anything
[21:43] <Steak> So I'm completely hung up then?
[21:44] <reisio> Steak: it could be some other process
[21:44] <reisio> Steak: if you can utilize the terminal at CTRL+ALT+F2, you are not _completely_ hung up
[21:44] <greenwicher> can i change the language of ubuntu after the installation?
[21:44] <reisio> emmy: any of those have a * under Boot?
[21:44] <cebrere> oh ha, right on
[21:44] <reisio> greenwicher: yes
[21:44] <emmy> reisio, if i've understood it right, the drive space numbers means it just hasn't installed anything or made any partitions
[21:45] <Steak>  No, i hit ctrl-alt-f2 and nothing happened, same with alt-k-prscr
[21:45] <emmy> reisio yes, sda1 *
[21:45] <RavenHursT> reisio: Yeah.. I don't think it's detecting the nvidia card correctly.. there's nothing other than "Oracle VM VirtualBox Guest Additions" under the "Additional Drivers"...
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> greenwicher: sure
[21:45] <reisio> Steak: CTRL+ALT+k+prtscrn?
[21:45] <chudapati09_> I'm having some issues setting up a mail server, is this the right channel to look for help?
[21:45] <Steak> Oh wait, we have some action
[21:46] <Jax> you guys know a FAST way to clone a ubuntu usb stick to 10 other sticks?
[21:46] <Steak> Just took a few min
[21:46] <reisio> Steak: :D
[21:46] <reisio> Jax: how big?
[21:46] <Jax> 4gb
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> greenwicher: you can run Language support and change it
[21:46] <llutz> chudapati09_: just ask and see
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> Jax: partimage or dd
[21:46] <reisio> Jax: the fastest would probably be to dd the mbr and cp the rest
[21:46] <reisio> Jax: the simplest would probably be just dd
[21:46] <RavenHursT> reisio: any idea how I can get Ubuntu to detect my video card correctly?
[21:46] <Jax> it just took like over an hour to create the image with dd
[21:47] <ycr> hello???? can someone help me with the problme of icons in gnome-shell
[21:47] <reisio> RavenHursT: did you read the link I gave?
[21:47] <ewook> chudapati09_:  I'd recommend #ubuntu-server for that.
[21:47] <Steak> Ok I'm dumped terminal, how do I boot up the gui again?
[21:47] <reisio> Jax: you probably aren't using bs/count right
[21:47] <Steak> Dumped to, rather
[21:47] <Jax> yes
[21:47] <reisio> Jax: but cp would probably be faster regardless
[21:47] <RavenHursT> reisio: yeah.. but it's telling me to click on things that aren't there :-(
[21:47] <Jax> i didn't know what to use
[21:47] <llutz> Jax: sudo cat /dev/sdX >image.dat  && sudo cat image.dat >/dev/newsticj
[21:47] <reisio> RavenHursT: okay
[21:47] <llutz> */dev/newstick
[21:48] <reisio> Steak: sudo service lightdm stop, then start, probably
[21:48] <Jax> how do i find out what the right bs/count settings are for a dd copy?
[21:48] <vademecum> Just booted a fresh 11.10 Lubuntu install to a grub rescue> prompt. What do I do now?
[21:48] <reisio> Steak: or you could try restart
[21:48] <Jax> llutz: hm.. what does a cat of a block device do?
[21:48] <RavenHursT> reisio: oh wait.. should I do sudo nvidia-xconfig again?
[21:48] <llutz> Jax: create a copy/image
[21:48] <chudapati09_> Okay, so I'm building a web server to host multiple websites. I got everything working except the mail server. I'm using linode to host my vps and I've been following their tutorials. Here is the link I've been following, http://library.linode.com/email/postfix/dovecot-mysql-ubuntu-10.04-lucid
[21:48] <reisio> RavenHursT: you could, but don't reboot or leave the xorg.conf there if it's the same as the one you mv'd that didn't work
[21:49] <_ansgar_> I've got a problem with stunnel not listening on tcp4.
[21:49] <chudapati09_> I got up to the part where it tells me to restart dovecot
[21:49] <reisio> emmy: sorry, okay
[21:49] <chudapati09_> so I tried "service dovecot restart"
[21:49] <emmy> that's alright
[21:49] <llutz> Jax: definetly no need for slow dd to copy/clone usb-flashdrives
[21:49] <chudapati09_> But then I get this "restart: Unknown instance:"
[21:49] <emmy> reisio: might it be a good idea to try the install ubuntu from the desktop icon?
[21:50] <reisio> emmy: right there's basically two big partitions here, C and D
[21:50] <Jax> llutz: can i also do a cat /dev/sdX > my.img
[21:50] <reisio> emmy: yes if what you did installed anywhere, it must have been inside one of Windows' filesystems
[21:50] <llutz> chudapati09_: does "sudo service dovecot stop && sudo service dovecot start" work?
[21:50] <llutz> Jax: sure
[21:50] <reisio> emmy: which you seem to have indicated you didn't want
[21:50] <Jax> will the mbr get copied like that too
[21:50] <chudapati09_> llutz: i'm doing all this as root
[21:50] <Steak> reisio, thanks a lot, I'm back in
[21:50] <emmy> reisio: correct, if it did that how do I tell?
[21:50] <reisio> emmy: if you don't need D, you can install from the official Ubuntu media to that partition, probably sda3
[21:50] <llutz> chudapati09_: does "service dovecot stop && service dovecot start" work?
[21:50] <_ansgar_> i haven't found any settings in the config file to specify tcp6 or tcp4 but i can't connect to localhost on the specified port and sudo netstat -plant only shows stunnel4 in a listen state on tcp6
[21:51] <chudapati09_> I tried to start dovecot and it worked
[21:51] <chudapati09_> llutz: yes it did
[21:51] <reisio> emmy: I'm not really sure, you'd have to search your Windows filesystem for something
[21:51] <emmy> reisio, ok that sounds like a good plan
[21:51] <llutz> chudapati09_: check /etc/init/dovecot.conf
[21:51] <reisio> emmy: possibly the word 'ubuntu', I'm not sure what filename conventions wubi uses
[21:51] <chudapati09_> but then I did "service dovecot status"
[21:51] <vademecum> at the "grub rescue>" prompt. How do I boot this thing?
[21:51] <reisio> emmy: local mirror of media here: http://ubuntu.virginmedia.com/releases/
[21:51] <_ansgar_> is there something i'm missing?
[21:51] <chudapati09_> and I get this "dovecot stop/waiting"
[21:51] <Jax> reisio:  how would i figure out which bs/count/sync to use?
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> _ansgar_: if you add the boot option: ipv6.disable=1    does it help?
[21:51] <chudapati09_> llutz: what should I check for?
[21:51] <reisio> emmy: before you install to sda3 you should try mounting it to make sure it is in fact your empty D drive
[21:52] <emmy> reisio, thanks, so I'll close the terminal
[21:52] <_ansgar_> ActionParsnip, would that be an argument to grub?
[21:52] <emmy> ok
[21:52] <llutz> chudapati09_: you did install dovecot from repos?
[21:52] <reisio> emmy: sudo mkdir -p /mnt/foo && sudo ntfs-3g /dev/sda3 /mnt/foo && ls /mnt/foo/
[21:52] <greenwicher> how can i change the language of my ubuntu?
[21:52] <emmy> reisio, how do I do that?
[21:52] <emmy> reisio, is the foo there actually a foo or do I have to put somethings?
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> _ansgar_: sure, add it in /etc/default/grub with: quiet splash    then run:  sudo update-grub
[21:52] <emmy> -s
[21:52] <reisio> emmy: up to you
[21:52] <reisio> emmy: it will work as 'foo'
[21:52] <chudapati09_> llutz: yes, that was the first step in the tutorial: "apt-get install postfix postfix-mysql postfix-doc mysql-client mysql-server dovecot-common dovecot-imapd dovecot-pop3d postfix libsasl2-2 libsasl2-modules libsasl2-modules-sql sasl2-bin libpam-mysql openssl telnet mailutils"
[21:52] <llutz> chudapati09_: you are on 11.*?
[21:53] <llutz> chudapati09_: check /var/log/dovecot* for errors
[21:53] <ruser> can someone help me setup my dualboot, after i messed up the pratition table list, i finished recovering it and can mount ntfs, but can't boot into windows :/ any tips? os-probe doens't find anyhting .  Q2: what's the boot info screet people are talking about?
[21:53] <reisio> greenwicher: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/ubuntu-help/session-language.html
[21:54] <chudapati09_> llutz: no file with dovecot in it exisit in the log folder
[21:55] <llutz> chudapati09_: grep  log_path /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
[21:55] <emmy> reisio, it said $recycle bin system volume information
[21:55] <reisio> emmy: sounds empty to me
[21:55] <_ansgar_> ActionParsnip, could it be under /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[21:55] <emmy> so I can go ahead and install?
[21:55] <reisio> emmy: your Windows OS might have been preconfigured to back stuff up to D:, though, to be nice you should disable that :D
[21:55] <reisio> emmy: yeah
[21:55] <ycr> hello i have a problem with the icons in gnome-shell-panel that are not displayed whre supouse to be an icon is just the black space but all the gnome-shell extensions are working just without icons can someone help me with this?
[21:56] <emmy> reisio, cool ok thanks
[21:56] <reisio> ycr: black squares?
[21:56] <_ansgar_> ActionParsnip, i'm running 11.10 but it's been installed for a long time. pre-dating grub2 apparently
[21:56] <chudapati09_> llutz: hmm... so it says the log file is in "/home/vmail/dovecot-deliver.log" but there is no folder vmail in home
[21:56] <m477> how to make computer sleep from terminal?
[21:57] <greenwicher> reisio:  when i click language support something opens and closes immediately. I cant choose the language tab at all
[21:57] <emmy> reisio, im going to take it downstairs to plug it in whilst it installs, is there anything else I need to know/do ?
[21:57] <reisio> m477: as in hibernate?
[21:57] <m477> yes
[21:57] <llutz> chudapati09_: check /var/log/daemon.log /var/log/syslog for dovecot related entries
[21:57] <reisio> emmy: not in general, just remember it's sda3 you want to format & install to, try to avoid touching the other partitions
[21:57] <abstrakt> how do I get my old GNOME back
[21:58] <Steak> reisio, was that $ sudo service gdm stop ?  Sorry couldn't remember whole line and my tablet can't scroll up here
[21:58] <primeministerp> question, is there a specific kernel deb to use if I want kvm to support vt-d on intel for 11.10?
[21:58] <ycr> reisio: yes black squares
[21:58] <reisio> abstrakt: http://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2011/10/23/ubuntu-11-10-fix-how-to-add-the-classic-desktop-and-gnome-3-shell-as-login-options/
[21:58] <reisio> Steak: it's probably lightdm now, not gdm
[21:58] <reisio> Steak: sudo service lightdm restart, or stop, then start
[21:58] <reisio> primeministerp: vt-d?
[21:58] <emmy> reisio, and will the dual boot option menu come up when I restart it, or will I have to do something with grub 2?
[21:58] <reisio> primeministerp: vt-x?
[21:59] <Steak> Ok thanks, back in business, reenabling ctrlaltbackspace now
[21:59] <reisio> emmy: it's suppose to come up
[21:59] <chudapati09_> llutz: daemon.log did not exisit, but in the syslog dovecot was found
[21:59] <primeministerp> reisio: yes vt-d
[21:59] <emmy> reisio, ok thanks! i'll pop back if anything goes wrong. thanks very much for your help :)
[21:59] <reisio> emmy: if it doesn't we can fix it from either OS
[21:59] <_ansgar_> ActionParsnip, thanks for the help. grub updated and rebooting
[21:59] <emmy> reisio, fantastic, thanks
[21:59] <reisio> primeministerp: ah, vt-d
[21:59] <primeministerp> reisio: I'm trying to pass a pci device
[22:00] <primeministerp> reisio: I was able to get it to work on the same hardware, a different distro w/ xen
[22:00] <Untitled_only> sup room
[22:00] <primeministerp> reisio: trying to do the same w/ kvm on 11.10
[22:00] <reisio> primeministerp: perhaps diffing the kvm -version output would be informative
[22:00] <reisio> Untitled_only: suppah
[22:01] <ycr> reisio: my problem started when i change the icon theme but after i change again for the default icon theme but didnt work
[22:01] <reisio> ycr: hrmmm
[22:01] <primeministerp> reisio: QEMU emulator version 0.14.1 (qemu-kvm-0.14.1)
[22:02] <Jinxed-> does ubuntu have drivers for serial 485?
[22:02] <llutz> chudapati09_: i have to go now. check the logs, you'd check the config and maybe the upstart-script /etc/init/dovecot*
[22:02] <reisio> ycr: if you made another user and logged in and the icons were fine, it would indicate that something in your ~/. config files has been corrupted
[22:02] <reisio> primeministerp: awe it doesn't say what it was built with?
[22:02] <Untitled_only> reisio: has there been alot of traffic today?
[22:02] <reisio> Jinxed-: has the same drivers all distros have
[22:02] <reisio> Untitled_only: mmmm, 'bout the usual I'd say
[22:02] <chudapati09_> llutz: okay thanks
[22:02] <Untitled_only> kool.
[22:03] <reisio> like cigarettes, yes
[22:03] <abstrakt> anyone know why Ubuntu 11.10 is slower than fedora 16?
[22:03] <abstrakt> do you think it's Unity? or the kernel?
[22:03] <Jinxed-> is that a yes?
[22:03] <reisio> abstrakt: same video driver?
[22:04] <ruser> can someone help me dualboot  (to windows) after a partition table recovery?  os-prober doesn't find anything
[22:04] <reisio> Jinxed-: it's sort of a "don't cross post"
[22:04] <abstrakt> reisio, yes - no video driver, well, no accelerated one
[22:04] <ratcheer> abstrakt: There is a performance comparison on The H
[22:04] <reisio> abstrakt: either the same or they aren't
[22:04] <Untitled_only> ruser: what dualboot program are you using?
[22:04] <abstrakt> ratcheer, on the what?
[22:04] <Jinxed-> cross post?
[22:05] <abstrakt> reisio, anyway, I don't see why gfx driver should cause Firefox to launch slower on Ubuntu than on Fedora
[22:05] <reisio> Jinxed-: you've been talking about this in ##linux
[22:05] <reisio> abstrakt: this is the same hardware?
[22:05] <ruser> Untitled_only: i believe i'm lgacy grub 0.97
[22:05] <Untitled_only> have you checked the forums yet?
[22:05] <ruser> Untitled_only: yeah, nothing useful :/
[22:05] <ratcheer> abstrakt: http://www.h-online.com/open/, but that is not where I actually saw it. The comparison is on Phoronix, I think.
[22:06] <Untitled_only> let me check.. brb
[22:06] <abstrakt> ratcheer, uhh, link please? I would rather take it from you rather than hope that I found the same link you did :)
[22:06] <ratcheer> abstrakt: Here it is - http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=fedora16_ubu1110_perf&num=5
[22:06] <abstrakt> ratcheer, awesome thanks
[22:07] <Untitled_only> ruser: are you using the GPT?
[22:07] <ruser> Untitled_only: what's gpt?
[22:07] <emmy> reisio, do I need to unmount the partition before I install? I've got a yes/no dialogue box
[22:07] <MaynardWaters> hello, i have an ftp server set up and i tried to put a symlink in there to another folder, but when i view the ftp directory from a windows machine, the link shows up as a file, and does not redirect corretly, any ideas how to fix?
[22:07] <reisio> emmy: you should, yes
[22:07] <emmy> reisio, cheers :)
[22:08] <reisio> emmy: didn't think of that
[22:08] <Untitled_only> http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/booting.html- you might find something
[22:08] <_jason> MaynardWaters: probably a configuration option in the server
[22:08] <ratcheer> ruser: gpt info - http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/index.html
[22:08] <MaynardWaters> _jason: been through the config file 2-3 times, but ill go back and check again
[22:08] <_jason> MaynardWaters: you should mention the ftp server in your question
[22:08] <MaynardWaters> its vsftpd
[22:09] <MaynardWaters> I dont think it should matter but both the ftp directory and the directory i am trying to symlink to are on an raid array that is on the os drive
[22:09] <ruser> Untitled_only: i'm not sure how is this relevant
[22:09] <Untitled_only> ruser: have you compiled you bootloader
[22:10] <MaynardWaters> not on the OS drive*
[22:10] <ruser> Untitled_only: nope, it's from packages
[22:10] <arye_> אם יש למישהו זמן
[22:10] <arye_> אשמח לעזרה קטנה
[22:10] <FloodBot1> arye_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:10] <arye_> בנוגע למחיצה שמחקתי
[22:10] <ruser> Untitled_only:  Version: 0.97-29ubuntu60.10.04.1
[22:11] <Untitled_only> GRUB Legacy—This boot loader is normally BIOS-only; however, Fedora Linux ships with a heavily modified version that works on EFI. In my experience, this modified version is more reliable than GRUB 2.
[22:11] <Untitled_only> GRUB 2—This boot loader can be compiled for either BIOS or EFI systems. In my opinion, it's overly complex and its reliability suffers as a result. OTOH, it's very flexible, with the ability to redirect the boot process to another boot loader as well as to directly load Linux, FreeBSD, OS X, and other OS kernels. (I've not tested its ability to directly boot FreeBSD on an EFI-based system, though.)
[22:11] <shomon> nepali?
[22:11] <shomon> Hi, I have video playing at double speed with no sound on flash and all video and audio players. I thought I should turn off Manhattan HDMI audio - but I'm running lubuntu: what is the package I need so as to have a system->preferences->sound -> hardware - I currently only have system->preferences - I've also tried installing libsdl1.2debian-all but it didn't seem to make a difference
[22:11] <shomon> hi
[22:11] <_jason> MaynardWaters: googling "vftpd symlinks" gives interesting results
[22:11] <reisio> arye_: #ubuntu-il ?
[22:11] <emmy> reisio, ive got the same options as before "inside windows, instead of windows, or something else - ie with partitions" shall I try to do the partitions one?
[22:12] <docmur> how do I enable SSL2 from OpenSSL back on Ubuntu, I tried compiling from source but that didn't work
[22:12] <reisio> emmy: are you still using that same media from before?
[22:12] <reisio> emmy: you should probably grab an image from http://ubuntu.virginmedia.com/releases/11.10/
[22:12] <emmy> reisio yes, that's how I got into the live session
[22:12] <reisio> emmy: and re-image your USB stick from windows
[22:12] <ruser> Untitled_only: this used to dual boot no problem but i had to recover the partition table. which broke the boot process, while i still can read the partition and files.  re-installing is not really an option i'm willing to consider at the moment
[22:12] <bastidrazor>  /w 3
[22:12] <reisio> emmy: what model is the computer?
[22:12] <emmy> reisio, ok, how do I reimage the stick? since I did it with that lili program
[22:13] <emmy> reisio eee pc 1015
[22:13] <Untitled_only> you may have to re-install... sorry
[22:13] <reisio> emmy: grab the app unetbootin from http://unetbootin.sf.net/
[22:13] <MaynardWaters> _jason: thanks looks like i was searching down the wrong path until you redirected me.
[22:13] <ruser> Untitled_only: i used to use lilo a while, but than was told to upgrade which i did
[22:13] <ruser> Untitled_only: but that again was a number of years ago
[22:13] <mikeyfbi> a
[22:13] <emmy> reisio, ok thanks
[22:13] <reisio> emmy: it has an option to use an iso
[22:13] <reisio> emmy: download http://ubuntu.virginmedia.com/releases/11.10/ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso and point it at it
[22:14] <hasufell> does any1 know how to use dbus-send to pull a certain window to the foreground?
[22:14] <ruser> Untitled_only: fine i understand, but i'd rather go through the motions of everything else before i consider tha option.
[22:14] <mikeyfbi> trying to get btnx to see my mx revolution - but when I go to detect the mouse nothing happens and i get a terminal error of "Warning: no valid pipes from pid: 4529"
[22:14] <Untitled_only> ruser: I'm going to keep looking for more info.
[22:14] <reisio> emmy: actually if you still have that livecd loaded, run grp ' lm' /proc/cpuinfo to make sure it's a 64-bit processor
[22:15] <greenwicher> when i click language support something opens and closes immediately. I cant choose the language tab at all. What's wrong?
[22:15] <reisio> emmy: grep ' lm' /proc/cpuinfo
[22:15] <reisio> typo
[22:15] <ycr> reisio: i made another user session and i have exactly the same problem
[22:15] <reisio> ycr: okay, well that rules out a config problem in ~/ :p
[22:16] <primeministerp> reisi: I think it may be because CONFIG_DMAR_DEFAULT_ON is not enabled in the image-server kernel
[22:16] <reisio> primeministerp: good sleuthing
[22:16] <emmy> reisio, just loads of random writing
[22:16] <mikeyfbi> anyone have knowledge of btnx?  can't detect my mx revolution ... stalls and gives me "Warning: no valid pipes from pid: 4529"
[22:16] <DETERMINOLOGY> I have windows 7 and ubuntu in dual boot..How do i go about del the ubuntu parition and fixxing the bootloader back to win 7
[22:17] <pp7> you dont
[22:17] <pp7> :P
[22:17] <primeministerp> reisio: do you know if the image-generic has that enabled?
[22:17] <ruser> DETERMINOLOGY: do you ming having tthe grub upfront?  tun  sudo os-prober and follow that by sudo update-grub
[22:17] <ruser> s/tun/run/
[22:17] <_jason> mikeyfbi: why even bother with it?
[22:18] <ruser> DETERMINOLOGY: wait hold on, you are just tring to leave one bootloader?
[22:18] <greenwicher> why when i doubleclick Language Support the popup automatically closes. I can't change the language!
[22:18] <ycr> reisio: lol  when i change the icon theme i delete all the icons that i was not using but then i had a lot of problems so i started reinstaling icons-theme from synaptic but my problem was fixed for many applications like rhythmbox but still not for the gnome-panel
[22:19] <mikeyfbi> _jason, need to make my extra buttons work
[22:19] <DETERMINOLOGY> ruser Im trying to get rid of ubuntu and keep windows 7..Atm when i stat the pc it asks me do i want to pick either win7/ubuntu
[22:19] <_jason> mikeyfbi: you don't need btnx for that, all my buttons work
[22:19] <Brixius> I have a server I installed a while ago and now need to install a new package, however as it's jaunty, the packages are not available as it is apparently End of Support. Also it looks like I can't even do an upgrade to the latest LTS, as the intermediate releases are not available.  Seems rather short sited on Ubuntu's part, shouldn't there be packages to upgrade at a minimum to the current LTS from all versions released after the previous L
[22:19] <Untitled_only> DETERMINOLOGY: just re-install windows 7 over the ubuntu partion...
[22:19] <mikeyfbi> _jason, where/how do you configure them for things like "ctrl-w"
[22:19] <ruser> DETERMINOLOGY: you just run fdisk  /mbr in windows than, that would replace the bootloader
[22:20] <Untitled_only> format your harddrive
[22:20] <ruser> Untitled_only: you realize that "just"  re-installing is not always an option, rihgt? :)
[22:20] <_jason> mikeyfbi: use xbindkeys or imwheel for that
[22:20] <_ansgar_> does anyone use pan newsreader?
[22:20] <DETERMINOLOGY> I really dont want to reformat
[22:20] <mikeyfbi> _jason, thx i'll check em out
[22:20] <ruser> Untitled_only:  he can remove the grub and resize the partition
[22:20] <Untitled_only> yes, but its faster
[22:20] <genii-around> Brixius: Change repo names from something like us.archive.ubuntu.com   to old-releases.ubuntu.com
[22:20] <Brixius> DETERMINOLOGY: boot your install cd to recovery mode, and check boot environment.
[22:20] <Untitled_only> use gparted partion editor
[22:21] <abstrakt> how do I use a hotkey to switch between workspaces in XFCE
[22:21] <ruser> Untitled_only: it might be faster for you, but if you have a tonn of stuff installed it might not
[22:21] <ruser> Untitled_only: btw, do you know if     Boot files/dirs:   /boot.ini /ntldr /NTDETECT.COM are mandatory to boot winxp?
[22:21] <greenwicher> is there a way i can open language support from terminal? i need to change the language of my ubuntu but i cant open language support
[22:21] <Brixius> genii-around: I'll give that a try
[22:21] <DETERMINOLOGY> thanks
[22:21] <_ansgar_> for some reason pan isn't connecting to the news server. at first i thought it was an stunnel4 issue, but i got that working with knode. then i tried pan without stunnel directly to the plain news server and it won't connect there either. the status just says: connecting
[22:22] <_ansgar_> i've tried removing the .pan2 directory and reinstalling pan but i get the same result
[22:22] <reisio> emmy: that means it matched something
[22:22] <_jason> greenwicher: install the appropriate language-pack file I believe
[22:22] <reisio> emmy: good to go, grab that amd64 image I linked to
[22:23] <reisio> emmy: use unetbootin to put it onto your USB stick
[22:23] <reisio> emmy: boot up, install to sda3
[22:23] <shomon> hmm, now videos play normal speed, but I can't get any audio.. Do I need an alsa driver?
[22:23] <ycr> reisio: any idea of how to fix my problem
[22:23] <ruser> shomon: did you have audio before?
[22:24] <reisio> ycr: find out what the default icon theme is, make sure it's enabled as the icon theme to be used, reinstall it if required
[22:26] <Untitled_only> sorry peps, hate @ people knocking at my door
[22:27] <greenwicher> _jason: i installed it but now, how do i chose it as default?
[22:27] <greenwicher> choose*
[22:28] <ycr> reisio: yes i did all icons in the system work perfect but not in the panel even if im changing one by one the themes and reloading the shell
[22:29] <Brixius> genii-around: that appears to work, I appreciate the help. for a bit, I was contemplating switching from ubuntu if I had to install from scratch.
[22:30] <genii-around> Brixius: Your problem after that will be.. Karmic is also now EOL, upgrading to that might be problemmatic
[22:30] <_jason> greenwicher: users can just choose it at login.  LANG used to be set in /etc/environment but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore.  It might be /etc/default/locale .  There may also be some command to modify that in a "nicer" way
[22:30] <reisio> ycr: not sure what would explain that, except possibly your graphics memory going bad
[22:30] <reisio> ycr: but it could just be a simple lib that needs rebuilding/replacement
[22:30] <greenwicher> _jason: ill logout then
[22:30] <greenwicher> brb
[22:30] <ugglaa> someone got answer to this? I made a script that lists all files in the current directory. Now I want to only show files that matches with argument 1 on command line via "$1". cant get it to work thought. Anyone got any info on how I should script that?
[22:31] <reisio> ugglaa: | grep "$i" ?
[22:31] <reisio> s/i/1/
[22:31] <hikenboot> I have decided to go with Ubuntu for working with Xen or KVM..which does it now support?and what is its management interface?
[22:32] <RavenHursT> can someone PLEASE give me some help w/ this: http://pastebin.com/LV4JYp0K  I've been trying to get OpenGL to work in 11.10 in a vbox VM now for two days and it's driving me mad
[22:33] <reisio> hikenboot: kvm will be simpler, but your processor must have vt-x or amd-v
[22:33] <reisio> hikenboot: the interface is called virt-manager
[22:33] <reisio> RavenHursT: I'm not sure there's any reason to think VirtualBox would support opengl
[22:33] <reisio> RavenHursT: #vbox would know for sure
[22:33] <ugglaa> reisio: what do you mean with s/i/1
[22:34] <RavenHursT> reisio: ok.. I'll try there..
[22:34] <reisio> ugglaa: I used "$i" in my response, but you were using "$1", it's a correction shorthand based on sed/etc.
[22:34] <ugglaa> but $1 is a built in variable for "argument 1" right??
[22:34] <ugglaa> $0 is command
[22:35] <reisio> ...hence why I corrected what I said?
[22:35] <ugglaa> aha.. lol sorr
[22:36] <ugglaa> ok I'll try with grep
[22:37] <zacarias> still looking for an omioutliner equivalent in Ubuntu
[22:37] <ugglaa> reisio: thanks a alot, searched for solution so many hours for that today
[22:38] <haled> I'm using 11.10 as a live usb disk but lightdm looks scrambled. what can I do?
[22:38] <reisio> ugglaa: np, glad it worked(?)
[22:40] <ugglaa> yeah it did, i had like 100 different tips on how to do just a simple thing and I couldnt get it right, lost much of my hair today
[22:41] <galvez> I made some updates using the update manager and I can´t access to ubuntu no more.. grub screen changed and does not accept my login name and password..Does anyone knows how to solve it? Could you guys help me? Thanks..
[22:41] <reisio> ugglaa: might be worth /join'ing #bash and actually learning it sometime :D
[22:41] <reisio> not that I have :p
[22:42] <mikeyfbi> how would i add a keyboard command 'CTRL + T' to the "enable commands" of compiz
[22:42] <perlstein> is there a simple tool for setting up PXE booting for oneiric?
[22:43] <nina> hey guys!
[22:43] <iceroot> perlstein: only the bios
[22:44] <Untitled_only> mikeyfbi:Genernal/ commands
[22:44] <perlstein> no i mean like
[22:44] <Untitled_only> compiz config settings manager
[22:44] <perlstein> some package to install that sets up a PXE _server_
[22:44] <mikeyfbi> Untitled_only, sorry?
[22:44] <iceroot> !pxe | perlstein
[22:44] <perlstein> to install oneiric to PXE booting machines
[22:45] <ugglaa> reisio: hehe, im trying! and now if I wanted to instead of print the files normally, I want to do md5sum and show results on the screen.. sudo md5sum "$file" | echo "$file";?
[22:45] <CarlFK> perlstein: https://github.com/CarlFK/veyepar/tree/master/setup/pxe
[22:45] <Untitled_only> compiz config manager/ general/commands
[22:46] <Untitled_only> creat a new command...
[22:46] <Untitled_only> create a new command
[22:47] <mikeyfbi> how can i learn what a command is tho? :) Untitled_only
[22:47] <sarthor> how to know how many folders are shared on my pc. and how to disable that all ?
[22:47] <mikeyfbi> i need to find out how to send "Control + T"
[22:47] <nina> i did ubuntu upgrade about week ago, and now i can't watch videos on websites, does anyone could help me?
[22:48] <ratcheer> nina: You probably need to install Flash, but that is just a guess.
[22:48] <CarlFK> perlstein: about the day I finished that I discovered http://www.thekelleys.org.uk/dnsmasq/doc.html  which is a dhcp/ddns server that is much easier to configure than isc-dhcp-server + bind9.
[22:48] <nina> i did it already
[22:49] <ratcheer> nina: Oh, ok. Not sure, then.
[22:49] <CarlFK> nina: do\ youtube vids play?
[22:50] <nina> yes, but not redtube :-)
[22:52] <reisio> ugglaa: md5sum prints the files by default, IIRC
[22:53] <fabulousdb> nina: I had the same problem and I switched to chromium web browser now everything works
[22:54] <kontagious> hey my battery notification icon keeps disappearing in ubuntu 11.10. what command in terminal do i use to enable it again in system notification tray?
[22:55] <nina> fabulousdb: i want to stay with my mozilla, maybe somehow i fix it
[22:55] <rattlerdok> I get this error: A problem occurred when checking the updates. And when i try to do an apt-get update i get: Type "deb" is not known on line 57 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list, and the list of sources could not be read
[22:55] <sarthor> how to know how many folders are shared on my pc. and how to disable that all ?
[22:56] <fabulousdb> I tried everything including a manual install of the flash binary and nothing worked
[22:57] <fabulousdb> so I switched to chromium and life is easy
[22:58] <reisio> fabulousdb: yay
[22:58] <ugglaa> if I want to print the result of an installation in a script.. is it if " >0 " ? or something similar
[22:58] <nina> now i'm trying manual :-)
[22:59] <Virus1001> hi
[22:59] <reisio> hi Virus1001
[22:59] <rattlerdok> I get this error: A problem occurred when checking the updates. And when i try to do an apt-get update i get: Type "deb" is not known on line 57 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list, and the list of sources could not be read. How can i solve this issue? i cant upgrade nor update now :S
[22:59] <guner34> ugglaa, to what do you want to print it?
[23:00] <guner34> rattlerdok, did you run "sudo apt-get install -f" already>
[23:00] <cyberpala> hello
[23:00] <cyberpala> quit
[23:00] <rattlerdok> guner34:  yes
[23:00] <reisio> hi cyberpala
[23:01] <cyberpala> exit
[23:01] <cyberpala> exit
[23:01] <cyberpala> quit
[23:01] <ugglaa> guner34 to the screen, as an echo
[23:02] <ugglaa> if installation result ends in greater than 0, print sucess and if less than 1 print error
[23:02] <nina> i really don't get it: i upgraded ubuntu, bought faster internet, and now everything works like shit..ehh
[23:02] <rattlerdok> guner34: that lets me upgrade but not update
[23:02] <guner34> rattlerdok, then do this "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[23:02] <guner34> and look for line 54
[23:03] <WerbDerver> nina: what version are you using?
[23:04] <guner34> ugglaa, it depends on what the script file does exactly
[23:04] <guner34> rattlerdok, oh, Im sorry, I meant line 57
[23:04] <nina> 10.04 -computer info
[23:04] <nina> but i think it's higher
[23:04] <ugglaa> its a script that installs ssh server and if it fails, it should print fail etc...
[23:05] <ugglaa> I have the command sudo apt-get install inside it
[23:05] <WerbDerver> you can just view the about ubuntu under the System button to tell you your version
[23:06] <rattlerdok> guner34: solved, thanks
[23:06] <l1nuxman> can you take a id_rsa.pub file and just copy it from a different linux install to another one and it should work?
[23:06] <WerbDerver> I find the running 10.04 is faster for my pc at home but at work I use Natty Narwhal
[23:06] <nina> yes, i check there
[23:06] <WerbDerver> l1nuxman: I don't think so
[23:06] <l1nuxman> WerbDerver, why not?
[23:06] <guner34> ugglaa, ask the question in #bash
[23:07] <WerbDerver> l1nuxman: isn't the string generated using your individual machine's name?
[23:07] <guner34> ugglaa, they helped me the last time I asked a similar question
[23:07] <nina> i did upgrade automatically from linux page
[23:08] <tmg> l1nuxman: you can copy rsa keys but you never NEVER WANT to copy your priv key anywhere... with pub one it is ok
[23:08] <nina> oh i've got natty narwahl, it was better
[23:08] <ugglaa> ok thanks
[23:08] <Virus1001> Hi all
[23:09] <rattlerdok> i added a launcher on my desktop, i edited it and changed its icon, but, despite gnome-desktop-item-edit shows the right icon, when i'm on the desktop i get a default one. I edited the launcher removing wrong Icon= lines, but now it should just show the right one..any idea of what could be wrong? why have they remove the add launcher button from earlier versions?
[23:11] <guner34> rattlerdok, did you try logging out and in again?
[23:11] <rattlerdok> guner34: yes, i even rebooted
[23:12] <trism> rattlerdok: can you pastebin the .desktop file?
[23:12] <balistic22> i have a question reguarding a triple boot for a macbook pro
[23:13] <Untitled_only> sorry peps, had to make dinner
[23:13] <guner34> rattlerdok, it would help if you did what trism asked
[23:13] <Untitled_only> -_-
[23:14] <balistic22> Hi, I am tryiing to install ubuntu on my macbook pro currently dual booted with win 7 and Lion. I am trying to install ubuntu 11.10 32bit. I have partitioned the drives but the install cd will not allow me to install
[23:14] <reisio> why 32-bit
[23:14] <clear> have you checked the install cd to make sure its burned right?
[23:14] <clear> md5 check
[23:14] <balistic22> yes i have done md5 checks
[23:14] <nixxofugi> i'm trying to use nautilus to connect to an ssh server protected with key encryption
[23:14] <nixxofugi> http://www.upubuntu.com/2011/11/how-to-access-remote-machine-using-ssh.html
[23:14] <rattlerdok> trism http://pastebin.com/2GFuCZRH
[23:14] <balistic22> 32 bit because most online tutorials have said to do 32 bits
[23:14] <nixxofugi> it's won't allow me to log in
[23:15] <balistic22> install
[23:15] <nixxofugi> can you help me please?
[23:15] <rattlerdok> trism xamppico is the right icon
[23:15] <guner34> rattlerdok, its *not* a good idea to have "sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start" as an icon
[23:15] <guner34> :/
[23:15] <balistic22> clear,reisio, i am currently on initramfs: unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[23:16] <rattlerdok> guner34: i know but ive been trying for hours to make the xampp control panel work and it says im missing libraries and other stuff... so i just wanted to start it myself without having to remember the path :p
[23:17] <balistic22> Hi, I am tryiing to install ubuntu on my macbook pro currently dual booted with win 7 and Lion. I am trying to install ubuntu 11.10 32bit. I have partitioned the drives but the install cd will not allow me to install
[23:17] <trism> rattlerdok: is it just showing the default launcher icon? if so, where did you put the icon?
[23:18] <trism> rattlerdok: you may have better luck using an absolute path if it isn't in a standard location
[23:18] <balistic22> :-(
[23:18] <ycr> my gnome shell panel is not displaying icons just a black square but is working
[23:19] <rattlerdok> trism if the default icon is a rhombus then yes, and i placed it in /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps
[23:19] <nixxofugi> anyone familiar with ssh and nautilis??
[23:19] <nixxofugi> nautilus*
[23:19] <guner34> rattlerdok, use the absolute path then
[23:20] <guner34> rattlerdok, i.e. Icon[ca_ES]=/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/xamppico
[23:20] <flopex> nixxofugi: what is your question?
[23:20] <trism> rattlerdok: you may need to run : sudo gtk-update-icon-cache /usr/share/icons/hicolor;
[23:20] <nixxofugi> flopex: i'm trying to connect to an ssh server using nautilus and ssh keys
[23:21] <nixxofugi> i can't get it to work. keys are all set up. just can't use nautilus for access
[23:21] <guner34> nixxofugi, do you want to access files on the other machine?
[23:21] <rattlerdok> guner34: trism won't work :|
[23:21] <nixxofugi> guner34: yes sir
[23:21] <flopex> nixxofugi: open up an folder and click File>Connect to Server> select SSH and enter your login information
[23:22] <pooltable> help in am update my computer and it ask this but i am useing just ubuntu Xubuntu 11.10 _Oneiric Ocelot_ - Release i386 (20111012)' is required
[23:22] <nixxofugi> flopex: this will not allow me to use my ssh keys though
[23:22] <pooltable> what do i need to change?
[23:22] <guner34> nixxofugi, I use FileZilla for that myself
[23:22] <guner34> nixxofugi, might give it a try
[23:23] <ycr> my gnome shell panel is not displaying icons just a black square but is working
[23:23] <rattlerdok> guner34: trism i tried removing that [ca_ES] (because i no longer have ubuntu in that language) and now the icon changed into a white page, any idea?
[23:23] <terran4000> hey, does anyone know how to get the creative x-fi titanium working with the latest 11.04 kernel update (2.6.38-13-generic)? Sadly the audo-dev/ppa group is pretty much dead and not updating anything.
[23:23] <mbeierl> what's the command line (ssh) command for distribution upgrades again?
[23:24] <mbeierl> ie: nox.
[23:24] <guner34> rattlerdok, what is the path to the icon file?
[23:24] <Jax> hi
[23:24] <terran4000> mbeierl, you mean: > sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade
[23:24] <terran4000> mbeierl, ?
[23:24] <guner34> mbeierl, something like "sudo apt-get - u dist-upgrade"
[23:24] <mbeierl> terran4000: I think so!
[23:24] <Jax> i need to run an apt-get install <some packages> on like 10 boxes. is there a way to get apt-get install to read from a file
[23:24] <guner34> ah, terran beat me to it
[23:24] <mbeierl> thanks guner34
[23:24] <rattlerdok> guner34: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/xamppico
[23:24] <ycr> my gnome shell panel is not displaying icons just a black square but is working
[23:25] <paulotruta> from a bash script! :P
[23:25] <genii-around> !info apt-proxy | jax
[23:25] <terran4000> Jax, > sudo apt-get install | cat file.txt
[23:25] <spoq> hey, i got a question
[23:25] <mbeierl> terran4000, guner34: odd.  It's saying nothing to do (0/0/0)
[23:25]  * genii-around smacks the bot
[23:26] <spoq> when i type "who" in terminal i receive that there are two clients logged in the system name     tty7         2011-11-29 16:27 (:0)
[23:26] <mbeierl> terran4000:  ah: sudo do-release-upgrade
[23:26] <spoq> name     pts/0        2011-11-29 23:25 (:0.0)
[23:26] <terran4000> mbeierl, either there is nothing to update, or you didn't do > sudo apt-get update     first
[23:26] <genii-around> !info approx
[23:26] <spoq> is that normal?
[23:26] <terran4000> mbeierl, ooo, 'that' evil command :D sorry for the mistake sir. ;)
[23:26] <trism> mbeierl: between ubuntu versions? because apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't do that; that would be do-release-upgrade
[23:26] <ycr> my gnome shell panel is not displaying icons just a black square but is working
[23:26] <mbeierl> terran4000, trism: sorry should have been more clear. yes natty -> oneric :)
[23:27] <nina> is it normal that my password after command su doesn't work?
[23:27] <trism> mbeierl: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OneiricUpgrades
[23:27] <mbeierl> "that" distribution upgrade...
[23:27] <_jason> nina: yes
[23:27] <_jason> !root | nina
[23:27] <guner34> nina: use sudo -i
[23:28] <trism> mbeierl: oops sorry, didn't see you had already solved it
[23:28] <nina> thanks
[23:29] <nina> i tried to upgrade java and that was the command from java page
[23:29] <rattlerdok> guner34: trism do you suggest me to place the icon somewhere else?
[23:29] <joshua__> I'm having an issue keeping Ubuntu 11.10 connected to the internet.  If it sits long enough to go into standby mode, I am disconnected from the wireless access point, and cannot reconnect.  Ideas?
[23:30] <Untitled_only> im back... I can focus now.
[23:30] <pooltable> help i do not see Software Sources. where is it ??
[23:30] <guner34> rattlerdok, give it a try
[23:30] <rattlerdok> guner34: i tried in a temp folder but wont work
[23:30] <guner34> nina, lots of times "su" gets mentioned as a way to become root
[23:30] <guner34> nina, but in ubuntu you have to use "sudo -i"
[23:31] <Untitled_only> there the same
[23:31] <ycr> my gnome shell panel is not displaying icons just a black square but is working just no icons at all
[23:31] <guner34> nina, or you can just use "sudo" everytime
[23:31] <trism> rattlerdok: you probably need the extension with the absolute path
[23:31] <Untitled_only> they are the same
[23:31] <observation> Ubuntu just installed thunderbird as part of a "security update"
[23:31] <rattlerdok> trism: ah
[23:31] <pooltable> got it sorry
[23:31] <guner34> hahaha, great point there trism
[23:32] <guner34> rattlerdok, Linux/Ubuntu never hides the extension of a file (and it should always be mentioned in programs/commands)
[23:33] <observation> Nevermind, thunderbird has always been there. My mistake!
[23:33] <terran4000> Anyone know when the "Audio-dev/ppa" will update to include Oneric OR update to include the latest kernel from 11.04/natty?
[23:34] <guner34> terran4000, any reason not to try upgrading to 11.10 ?
[23:34] <l1nuxman> how can I view the real size of a folder on command line because ls -l only shows them as 4096
[23:34] <terran4000> guner34, alsa is still broken in 11.10 and thus upgrading to it will NOT get my sound card to work.
[23:35] <notaHacker> I'm trying to install bluediving to play with my phone...and it is making my brain hurt. Can anybody help me?
[23:35] <terran4000> It USED to work, until the latest kernel update in 11.04 ... and the audio-dev ppa doesn't have any drivers for that kernel :-/
[23:35] <reisio> l1nuxman: what makes you think ls is wrong
[23:35] <skeletro3> ciao
[23:35] <guner34> terran4000, downgrade to previous kernel?
[23:35] <l1nuxman> reisio because I know it's bigger
[23:36] <terran4000> l1nuxman, if you're looking for folder size try:  du -sh FOLDER
[23:36] <rattlerdok> trism: guner34 yay it was the absolute path + extension, thanks :P
[23:36] <terran4000> guner34, good idea ... any link to the instructions on how to do so?
[23:36] <guner34> l1nuxman, du -hs <directory>
[23:36] <nina> is it possible that something is wrong with terminal because of my native language?
[23:37] <guner34> terran4000, http://askubuntu.com/questions/71139/how-to-downgrade-the-kernel-on-11-10
[23:37] <l1nuxman> guner34, cool thanks. WHy does ls just show the sizes?
[23:37] <guner34> that could be a starting point
[23:37] <l1nuxman> *doesn't
[23:37] <Phoenixz> How can I force the network manager to connect to a hidden SSID wifi network?
[23:37] <Phoenixz> I don't see it in the network list, so i cant really select it manually :)
[23:37] <terran4000> guner34, many thanks!
[23:37] <Untitled_only> reisio: do you get on #ubuntu-offtopic?
[23:37] <guner34> l1nuxman, because ls shows the size of the specification of the Folder
[23:38] <l1nuxman> specification ?
[23:38] <guner34> l1nuxman, du checks the folder for what is in it and then output the sum of all sizes
[23:38] <l1nuxman> guner34, ls should do that...
[23:38] <reisio> Untitled_only: not so far
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> l1nuxman: you can use:  du -h | tail -n 1    to get foldersize :)
[23:38] <terran4000> l1nuxman, in linux .. folders are just files with a special folder tag. Thus, LS is just physical size of the folder (which is really a file)
[23:39] <Untitled_only> its great to take a brake... on just chat
[23:40] <freegerr> hi, is it normal that an on-screen keyboard is shown after a user's screen is locked due to inactivity?
[23:40] <l1nuxman> terran4000, hmmm? What does it have to do with being a file...Show the size of the "file" then
[23:40] <spoq> omg JetJagurXP, thats the coolest looking ip i have seen in my life.
[23:41] <JetJagurXP> Having a problem with Grub not wanting to boot when  I put / on a software Raid...  md1
[23:41] <guner34> Ive never seen a 12. before either :O
[23:41] <JetJagurXP> spoq  JetJaguar is the coolest.  ;)
[23:41] <terran4000> l1nuxman, think of it this way: a 'folder' is just like a closed regular old shipping box that we take to the post office. LS gets you the dimensions of the box, but it can't tell you what's in it.
[23:41] <spoq> :)
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> JetJagurXP: you from the UK?
[23:42] <JetJagurXP> Should I just configure a separate partition for the /boot or something?
[23:42] <JetJagurXP> Nope.  US
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> JetJagurXP: unless you have good reason, no
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> JetJagurXP: there is a bradford near me :)
[23:43] <joshua__> I'm having an issue keeping Ubuntu 11.10 connected to the internet.  If it sits long enough to go into standby mode, I am disconnected from the wireless access point, and cannot reconnect.  Ideas?
[23:43] <l1nuxman> terran4000, ok fair enough, thanks. My opinion then is that LS is "stupid"
[23:43] <JetJagurXP> Well  I have three Raid partitions.  md0 is swap, md1 is / and md2 is /home
[23:44] <terran4000> l1nuxman, *shrug*. It's a program that does exactly what it was intended to do. :)
[23:44] <JetJagurXP> Grub doesn't want to boot md1 for some reason.
[23:44] <NOSaturn> is there anything i should look for in a webcam that will work in Ubuntu?
[23:44] <spoq> JetJagurXP, is the coolest around!
[23:44] <Untitled_only> config your power settings
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> JetJagurXP: if your raid isnt bootable, you'll need it ;)
[23:44] <JetJagurXP> Need what?
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | NOSaturn
[23:44] <nixxofugi> i can connect to my other machine using ssh keys, but why can't i use "connect to server" to do ssh file transfer in nautilus??
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> JetJagurXP: if your raid isn't bootable you will need a separate /boot partition
[23:45] <JetJagurXP> How large does a /boot partition have to be?
[23:46] <guner34> JetJagurXP, about 100mb is more than enough
[23:46] <reisio> like 20MB for one very fat kernel and initrd
[23:46] <reisio> it's nice to be able to keep more in there though
[23:46] <reisio> JetJagurXP: I personally don't use a separate /boot
[23:46] <napster-pt> j miui-pt
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> JetJagurXP: about 200Mb is more than enough
[23:46] <reisio> then it's not an issue
[23:47] <JetJagurXP> It would make configuring the software raid a little more tricky missing 200 megs
[23:47] <escott> JetJagurXP, bios raid won't like that but mdadm will handle that configuration easily
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> JetJagurXP: could use an SD card or USB storage
[23:48] <Phoenixz> How can I force the network manager to connect to a hidden SSID wifi network?
[23:48] <NOSaturn> ActionParsnip, yeah.... the hcl sin't listing anything current :P
[23:48] <JetJagurXP> escott  Will Grub be able to handle it?
[23:49] <synapse> How does Ubuntu pull in updates from kernel.org?  (i.e., will I see a patch in the next kernel from ubuntu if it's for-linus)
[23:49] <escott> Phoenixz, you have to go to network settings and add type in the ssid. just so you are aware hidden wifi doesn't do much except prevent people who aren't aware from knowing the network is there
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> NOSaturn: i can recommend you see what you can afford or can buy, then read how they work online
[23:49] <hikenboot> anyone in here running a xen hypervisor on the desktop version of ubuntu rather than server. I am curious about the performance differnece between the two since workstation will install RAID10 and LVM i would prefer this over the install of ubuntu server
[23:50] <Phoenixz> escott: I know, try telling that to the "security" guys..
[23:50] <Scott_S> Hikenboot: As a desktop configuration will use more memory and resources due to the addition of a full GUI, you'll notice a very minimal difference in performance. So, yeah, not much difference.
[23:51] <hikenboot> why is the server installer look so old and out of date i thought it was canonicals pride and joy
[23:51] <Phoenixz> escott: but "going to network settings and type in the ssid"... where exactly is the "network settings"? you mean the popup when I click on the network manager?
[23:51] <hikenboot> do they still have a JEOS version? and does it setup raid formats?
[23:51] <hikenboot> during the install
[23:52] <escott> Phoenixz, so the network icon click on it and you should have network settings as an option at the bottom then you can pick wireless and add the ssid
[23:52] <Scott_S> hikenboot: Simple; server managers don't care about looks, they care about ease-of-use and speed. They want something simple, they've got something simple.
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> hikenboot: the server install is text only, looks the same since day 0
[23:52] <Scott_S> ActionParsnip: Long time no see. :3
[23:52] <escott> JetJagurXP, what exactly is your proposed config
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> Scott_S: yo yo yo
[23:52] <hikenboot> What about JEOS is it the same as server ?
[23:53] <Phoenixz> escott: actually on KDE here, but it should be more or less similar.. I already configured the network, and set it up to connect automatically, but its not connecting...;
[23:53] <Scott_S> JEOS? I'm not familiar with it.
[23:53] <JetJagurXP> escott  I have 4 hard drives.  2 X 160 GB and 2 X 200 GB
[23:53] <escott> Phoenixz, well it cannot connect automatically to a hidden network because it doesnt know its there. unless it broadcasts a request connection everywhere in which case you are spamming every coffee shop with their super secret SSID
[23:54] <hikenboot> stands for Just Enough Operating System... but I am surprised that setting up RAID isnt integratated in to the server install...very surprised
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_JeOS
[23:54] <Scott_S> Hikenboot: JEOS appears to be a minimal version of the server. Removes most of the drivers, all that stuff. Also, most companies do not use software RAID, they use hardware RAID. Much more reliable.
[23:55] <Scott_S> Hikenboot: The reason that many drivers are included with the Ubuntu Server 11.10 is so that it is fully compatible with (nearly) all hardware. Removing drivers means less chance of 100% compatibility.
[23:55] <spoq> is there a "Jewbuntu"
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> hardware raid is sweeeeet
[23:56] <escott> JetJagurXP, thats not specific enough
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> PCI-X raid with 256Mb cache :)
[23:56] <Scott_S> ActionParsnip: I want a Eureka 48-port card. :3 Upgradable online cache. SO-DIMM, up to 2048MB.
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> Scott_S: damn
[23:56] <Scott_S> onboard cache *
[23:57] <JetJagurXP> escott  using the system for VMs
[23:57] <DETERMINOLOGY> I fixed it...Now im back on just windows 7 and thanks again
[23:58] <escott> JetJagurXP, if you want an answer about what grub can and cannot handle you need to say exactly where you propose to install grub, and what the partition types and layouts of the the boot and root partitions will be
[23:58] <yaboo> I am trying to restart telnet and it seems the port is already binder and cannot be restarted, I do a netstat -an to see all the telnet connections
[23:58] <Scott_S> yaboo: Do you have a secondary telnet server installed?
[23:58] <yaboo> Scott_S, how can I check
[23:58] <Scott_S> yaboo: Try restarting the server with 'sudo [command]'
[23:59] <genii-around> DETERMINOLOGY: If you decide to run Ubuntu again sometime, you know where to come for support! ;)
[23:59] <CadetX> Hey
[23:59] <Scott_S> yaboo: I believe the command should be 'sudo service restart telnetd'