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ravgenii_around: thanks for the help. i'm going to install lucid, then upgrade to maverick which is what i have on the old laptop00:01
genii-aroundrav: Hopefully it goes well!00:02
CadetXdoes ubuntu 10.10 ship the latest flash (i have 64bit system so i need 64bit flash too) or i should get it from adobe site?00:02
genii-aroundCadetX: Do you mean 11.10 ( Oneiric Ocelot ) or 10.10 ( Maverick Meerkat )00:05
CadetXgenii-around, yes00:05
CadetXthe last one00:05
CadetX11.1000:05
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genii-around!info flashplugin-installer00:06
ubottuflashplugin-installer (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 11.1.102.55ubuntu0.11.10.1 (oneiric), package size 2 kB, installed size 52 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)00:06
genii-aroundSo it comes with version 11.100:07
Timewarpergenii-around, both 64bit and 32bit?00:07
genii-aroundTimewarper: As it says at the end  (Only available for i386 amd64)     so 32bit and 64bit00:08
Timewarperkk00:08
Timewarperthanks00:08
Timewarper11.1.102.5500:09
Timewarperlast flash00:09
genii-aroundTimewarper: According to http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/  that is the most recent version. So to answer your earlier question, yes it has the most recent version.00:13
Bingeanyone here ?00:20
Bingei just downloaded the kubuntu 11.10, id like to use wubi installer, but there seems there is no option to install kubuntu from within windows in this version ?00:20
JoeSomebodywhat do you guys recommend for remote desktop support package, i was using teamviewer ...00:31
amasonJoeSomebody: i like x2go, it's not so much of a support package as it is a remote desktop solution00:37
amasonbut it's quite fast00:37
amasonsecure as it's tunnelled over ssh00:37
JoeSomebodythanks i'll check that out00:37
billytwowillyanybody know what updatedb.mlocat tainted means in dmesg?00:40
billytwowillymy hard drive is filling up with crap, rsyslogd and  updatedb.mlocat are at 100% cpu usage00:40
JoeSomebodyok trying a hp 1020 laserjet, its not going well, cannot print a test00:45
JoeSomebodyit set itself up, but no test print, i deleted it, and with new one still no test print00:47
JoeSomebodyis there a list of printers somewhere it likes ?00:51
OrcrisHow do I find my mouse's DPI?01:06
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anjilslaire@dion: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119109001:09
anjilslairein software, it looks like? You have a logitech mouse?01:09
OrcrisYeah, it's a logitech.01:11
masterhallo01:36
Staly_Nickhi whats goin on with ubuntu? after few days uptime its goin crazy, hdd is like grr grr grr and i cant do nothing, even X mouse cursor don't move, or move like by slideshow. Mayby its some memory lack?01:38
frogonwheelsStaly_Nick: hm.. having that kinda problem too- wonder if it's to do with the updates (ie processing if there are any updates avail)01:41
Staly_Nickwhat is fsck?01:44
Staly_Nickwhats that?01:44
Staly_NickFSCK01:44
Staly_Nicksorry, i ask, cos i have gprs connection and better not to load any ww sites.01:45
m4xx_i've just installed kubuntu on my laptop. everything seems to be working just fine. when i go into the system settings it says my trackpad isn't found yet it works just fine01:50
m4xx_version 11.1001:51
m4xx_anyone have any ideas?01:51
amasonStaly_Nick: links will let you view www sites in text mode02:18
amasonno flash / images etc.. that chew your bandwidth02:18
Staly_Nicknevermind, ill delete ubuntu and go ack to old school > WINDOWS ^_^02:19
amasonok whatever works for you.02:19
Staly_NickOnly vodka!02:20
Joit_is sun java actually supported for kubunut or any usefull? or does it mess up anything02:23
Joit_Kubunut*02:23
Joit_kubuntu02:23
Staly_Nickin ubuntu is one problem. After a 2, 3 days uptime sysyetm starts to being lazy, and after some work the hdd goes crazy. You cant do nothing, even go to other console and shut up this first. Only hard reset.02:23
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Joitmines works so far since a few days nick02:24
Staly_NickJoit: start work with java!02:24
Joiti only need it for some pages, not to work with it02:24
Staly_Nickim too02:24
Joitbut i cant past at the one i have installed02:24
Staly_Nickive installed last from Sun and it works fine02:25
Joitok, ty i may give it a try02:28
Staly_NickJoit: install Windows. Its fine, smooth. Workin on WIndows is like f wet pussy. After 64bit Vista none of BSOD.02:29
Joitlast time i installed it and anything messed up02:29
Staly_Nicki can't : ( cos Windows price is to high for me02:29
Joitwell i had a long time now windows, never did go over w2k because anything ese is pure crap, if its xp vista or any thing else02:30
Joitwindows bloads up slows down call home and ask for any cheat for a key02:30
Joitits pure making money, they let the consumer develope them vista, and did let them pay for that02:31
Joitas vista cames out nothing did work, and its not better today. all the pages what you can find about is how to fix that crap what they are progreamming02:31
Joitso not really a alternative02:31
Staly_Nickits windows, its f best X that i even seen02:32
Staly_Nickr02:32
Joitover complicated, not to use for a average person02:32
Joiti got more then enough friends, what i have to fix her pc all time02:32
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Joitanother friend did format every 6 months his windows because it did not work anymore02:33
Joitthat was xp02:33
Staly_Nickthey should upgrade their pcs and install vista 64 ultimate, none of home or pro, no 7 only vista 600102:34
Joitand after a while, through all the different installations from different programs all system files are messed up02:34
Joiteven when i think sometimes, some from the windows freaks work at certain linux distributions to mess the versions up02:37
Staly_Nicki have used vista ultimate for long time, test mode. Uptimes more than 3 months, and ive played games, www, progs, that, and that, and that too in one session. No BSOD, nothing wrong! Everytime fast, smooth, even, when memory goes up to 9X%. Easy, taskman, ...... what versions?02:38
amasonStaly_Nick: if you are happy with windows why bother with ubuntu ?02:52
amasonit's obviously not a good fit for you02:52
Staly_Nickyep. I work with Perl and Python, thats why.02:54
amasonpretty sure perl and python have windows version02:54
DaskreechStaly_Nick: What are you trying to get done?02:55
Staly_Nickyep, but when i start windows i only play Mafia, Fahrenheit, Mass Effect, or similiar games, and i shold work, not play with games. Next problem is that Ive got no more windows, cos my chef said, it is illegal to have a copy of it. Ubuntu is good, not so far from user friendly win, but what a "mist"02:58
DaskreechStaly_Nick: what's the issue you are running into?02:58
Staly_Nicki have firefox, 10 sites opened. Konversation, Xchat, Pidgin, running. 2,3,4 days and my hdd goes crazy. It is at reading or writing something and i cant do anything else. Not even move mouse cursor. I want to go to second console und kill the first one, but its like i would have an 8086 4MHz with 640kb RAM.03:03
Staly_Nick2,3,4 days of uptime03:04
Staly_Nickat work we dont turn off pcs03:04
DaskreechStaly_Nick: What's on the second terminal ?03:05
DaskreechAnd how much swap do you have?03:05
Staly_NickOn second terminal is normal, login, pass. I go as root, but directly (automatic) is loading Xserver, but! it takes two days to run up! Swap i have on 500gb hdd. I think 10GB.03:09
DaskreechHow much RAM Staly_Nick>03:17
Staly_Nick2 gigs Daskreech03:22
DaskreechStaly_Nick: How much is FF taking?03:25
Staly_Nickmore than exist. Yep, thats the problem. FF and Java. Java applet in FF is so huge, that .. it eats whole memory.03:29
DaskreechStaly_Nick: there you go kill that page till it's needed03:31
Staly_Nickit's something wrong03:33
Daskreechsubmit a bug report to the website03:33
Staly_Nickon windows i have all that and even more, games at background, more apps in background, and more instances running web-java engine. Was no prolem untill my chefs checked, that ive got illegal copy of windows. Must to delete it.03:36
DaskreechStaly_Nick: might want to submit it to icedtea as well03:37
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sluckxzi was doing a large install kde-desktop-full i think with muon and now im pretty sure its hung up installing at 39% plasma-runners-addons.  pretty sure im gonna have to kill it and try with apt or something.04:03
Sssstttturlin2u from #ubuntu is a f bitch. ;(04:17
Ssssttttgood night.04:17
benbloomcrazy noob question, i just upgraded to 11.10 and cant figure how to change the wallpaper?04:41
benbloomk figured it out04:43
sluckxzfrozen-bubble doesnt let me into graphics options.04:58
RandomRogerHi, Im trying to connect to a hidden wireless network. When I click into the network manager I click the button for hidden, type in the name and press enter, but nothing happens after, can anyone help ?05:37
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Guest26339hello world05:40
RandomRogerIndeed05:40
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CarlFKRandomRoger: terminal, dmesg.. might be some clues at the end05:43
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littlegirlHey there, I use Kubuntu Lucid Lynx and Dolphin sorts directories and files with lower case names first followed by upper case names. Is there any way I can tell it to sort them all together? In other words, I'd like a and A to be at the top of the listing and z and Z to be at the bottom. Currently a is at the top, A is in the middle, etc.08:04
littlegirlMaybe I should try wording it differently. I have Dolphin set to sort directories and files in ascending order by name. Currently it sorts them like this: a b c A B C and I would like it to sort them like this: a A b B c C - can it be done?08:08
littlegirlThanks! You guys have been incredibly helpful. (:08:09
rawler_hey..08:17
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rawler_does anyone know if it's possible to force Wireless-mode to G for one connection in Network Manager?08:18
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Guest70887saludos08:32
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RROD666Hey, I was curious what is the URL for Kubuntu testing?09:51
RROD666I know for Ubuntu it is http://www.ubuntu.com/testing09:52
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starslightshi, i have become some new mail about "Ubuntu ISO Testing team: New build notification" but it's a new server as previous tests, now it's on "http://91.189.93.73/qatracker/milestones" and the site warn me about a not Warning: http://91.189.93.73/ does not look like a trustworthy URL.   It's is normal ?11:25
starslightsok, i have found a answer in the old iso.qu.ubuntu.com, it say that we must use the new adress.. bye11:43
sercanbenshee müzik listesindeki müzikler çalmıyor11:52
sercan sürekli içe aktarma yapıyorum11:52
sercan nasıl çözübilirim11:52
sercanI do not play music continuously import benshee music list, how can I solve11:53
sercanmusic list, music does not play11:56
sercan banshee11:56
sercanto run it says fatal error11:57
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qwertzHello, I can no longer log in. Before I logged out the system told me, that it is running out of space.12:20
qwertzWhat can I do? I already tried to remove a lot of files without sucdcess.12:20
szalwhat is the error msg when trying to log in?12:24
qwertzszal: I dont get any error message, I mean, it just shows me the login screen again and again.12:26
qwertzI get log in on the console12:26
qwertzI csan log in through the console12:27
qwertzbut not through the GUI12:27
szalplaces of interest to look at -> /var/log/kdm.log, /var/log/Xorg.0.log, ~/.Xsession-errors12:27
qwertzOkay, let me see12:28
vprintsqwertz: log in from the console12:33
vprintsand do12:33
qwertzszal: ~/.Xsession-errors is empty12:33
vprints sudo apt-get clean12:33
vprintstry to log in graphically12:33
vprintsif it still dosent eor12:33
vprintsagain console12:34
qwertzvprints: I will try.12:34
vprintssudo apt-get autoremove12:34
vprintssudo apt-get clean12:34
vprints(again)12:34
vprintsthen try graphical12:34
szal!enter | vprints12:36
ubottuvprints: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!12:36
daviddoriaI think they are both turned off, but AkonadiTray and Nepomuk File Indexing still appear in my panel. Is there a way to remove them?12:40
vprints??12:41
vprintsi find it easier for beginners if the commands are on seperate lines12:42
vprintsless mistakes in applying the commands12:43
qwertzvprints: I can still not log in through the gui.12:45
qwertzI noticed, that I canot copy anything to my home-dir. It says disk full.12:46
qwertzbut 'df -h' says /dev/sda1 97%12:47
qwertzso it is not competly full12:47
vprintsdo you have seperate partitions?12:47
qwertzI already removed some files.12:47
vprintswhat partitions besides sda1 are listed?12:48
qwertzvprints: no12:48
qwertznone's12:48
vprintsdid you also do the "sudo apt-get autoremove" ?12:50
qwertzyes12:50
vprintshow big is sda1 ?12:51
qwertz36G12:52
vprintsdid you recently download something bigger than usual ?12:52
vprintsor intsall new software?12:53
qwertzI tried to recover some files, but stopped it12:53
qwertzI guess the disk was really full12:53
qwertzbut it isn't anymore12:53
qwertzbut the system does not notice it12:54
vinnie_anyone know of a good network monitor that will monitor TOTAL network usage?12:54
vprintswhat folder did you recover to ?12:55
vprintsthe target folder12:55
qwertzi tried to recover to a folder in my home deirectory12:56
qwertzbut dejup did not do it12:56
qwertzso I stopped te recover12:56
vprintsdo you have a memory stick or external drive ?12:57
vprintsyou could move something in your home directory to external medium12:58
BluesKajHi folks12:58
qwertzvprints: I already tried to add an external harddisk, but could not access it13:00
qwertzvprints: and as root i could neither do it13:01
qwertzBut I will tr to move some data from home to /var13:01
vprintsqwertz: that will not help if you only have one partition13:04
vprintsqwertz: how could you not access the external disk?13:05
qwertzIt said, that I have not enough rights to access /media/disk13:06
vprintscan you tell me how you mounted it?13:12
qwertzI thought ios was mounted automatically13:12
vprintsif no graphical environment then you have to mount it manually13:12
vprints;)13:13
vprintsi guess there is Your problem13:13
qwertzha, okay13:13
qwertzbut I already removed some files, so I don't thinki, that it will fix my problem to move some files on external disk.13:14
qwertzI think something is wrong in my home dir.13:16
vprintswell. 3 % free is not enough for normal work13:16
vprintsso you have to remove something *anyway*13:16
Torchremember that some percentage of a file system is reserved for the root user when it fills up13:16
qwertzyes, sure, but I would prefere to remove something with the gui.13:16
vprintsqwertz: did you try rebooting?13:17
qwertzyes, I did several times.13:17
qwertzI tried to create another user13:23
qwertzand he could log in.13:24
qwertzI think I will cp the files of my old user to the new and remove my old.13:24
fayazqwertz: you mean mv13:27
qwertzyes ;-)13:27
qwertzI know, this is jaust a workaround, but I cannot fix the real problem.13:28
qwertzthanks anyway, for all your hints!!!13:30
vprintsnp13:30
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faLUCEHi. I created an iso image of my os with remastersys. Unfortunately, I can boot from the live cd with this iso only if I add "nomodeset" option. Otherwise I see a black screen. In addition, after installing the OS from this livecd, booted with "nomodeset" option, I can't see the screen anymore. what's wrong?14:22
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BluesKajfaLUCE, what line did you put the nomodeset , quiet spalsh ?14:32
daviddoriaI think they are both turned off, but AkonadiTray and Nepomuk File Indexing still appear in my panel. Is there a way to remove them?14:39
BluesKajdaviddoria, in system settings > startup&shutdown> session management , type  nepomuk, akonadi into the textbox under "Applications to be excluded from sessions"14:45
BluesKajthen use the "Restore previous session on ligin" option14:46
BluesKajerr login14:47
daviddoriaBluesKaj, do I have to use "previous session"? Shouldn't that exclude them from ever starting?14:51
BluesKajyes14:52
BluesKajmake sure you have them listed in the textbox I mentioned14:52
daviddoriahaha sorry, I asked two questions14:52
daviddoriaBluesKaj, so why do I have to use previous session? (or do I not?)14:53
BluesKajdunno why , you can try without it14:54
BluesKajI always have restore previous sessions turned on , it's ahabit I'm used to14:55
daviddoriaok, let me log out and see if they disappear14:56
daviddoriaBluesKaj, nope, they are still there14:58
BluesKajright click on them to see if there's a quit option14:59
BluesKajor hide14:59
daviddoriaBluesKaj, yes, I can quit them. but they come back when I login14:59
BluesKajthat's why I restore the previous session :)15:00
BluesKajunderstand ?15:00
daviddoriahaha yes, but that seems silly :)15:00
BluesKajwhy/15:01
BluesKaj?15:01
daviddoriaUsually the whole point of why i log out is to "start fresh"15:02
BluesKajnot really , depends on your preferences , daviddoria15:03
Timewarperdoes anyone know how latest gnome compare to kde resource-wise?15:31
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BluesKajTimewarper, resource-wise ? ...anything that runs on ubuntu/gnome will run on kubuntu/kde15:33
Timewarperany article15:47
Timewarperanyone knows/ has an article on how kde compares to ubuntu 2, regarding resource use (ram, cpu etc) ?15:48
kamilnadeemHi15:59
ken____noob looking for some help with kubuntu low-fat settings removal15:59
ken____hi15:59
kamilnadeempeople who haven't added the kubuntu ppa , what kde version are you running ?15:59
ken____just a sec16:00
ken____ok, where do I find that info? I just updgraded to 11.1016:01
szalTimewarper: what is 'ubuntu 2'?16:02
kamilnadeemWhen my kubuntu 11.10 boots past the splash screen , I am off late seeing a cog dancing ap and down and after that the desktop satrtup sound plays , why is that ?16:02
BluesKajTimewarper, stop crossposting ..there are comparisons on the internet . just do a search16:02
kamilnadeemBluesKaj: hi16:02
blinesomehow ended up with muon and apper, both now bugging about package updates. which one should I remove?16:03
BluesKajhi kamilnadeem16:03
kamilnadeemBluesKaj: have you added the kubuntu ppa?16:04
BluesKajno , I'm testing 12.0416:04
Timewarperszal, gnome 2 i meant16:04
BluesKajso far it's more stable than 11.10 was :)16:05
kamilnadeemBluesKaj: I mean 11.10 , I am on 4.3 with the kubuntu ppa16:05
BluesKajTimewarper, be careful the correction trolls will be on your case any moment16:05
BluesKajkamilnadeem, 4.5 or 6 i'm sure16:06
kamilnadeemBluesKaj: sorry I am on 4.7.316:07
BluesKajsame here16:07
kamilnadeemis it been released in the normal updates16:07
kamilnadeemgoing to do a blog post can mix up facts :)16:07
kamilnadeemcan't*16:08
BluesKajkamilnadeem, I think kde development versions caused a lot of problems on 11.10 , but I think 4.7 has finally reached a more stable state with all the fixes , there still are some glitches tho16:09
BluesKajwindow sizing recall is aproblemn16:10
kamilnadeemBluesKaj: yes , it is excellent but random crashes are still happening like on restarting/shutting down  or just with application16:10
BluesKajyeah plasma still crashes on shutdown sometimes16:13
kamilnadeemBluesKaj: what do you think, may I recommed Kubuntu to a total new user(like it will be his first distro)?16:13
BluesKajkamilnadeem, depends , is he/she a problem solver type ...sometimes a LTS is best for new users , as long as you can guide the user that will help a lot16:15
BluesKajkamilnadeem, is he very windows knowledgeable , if so , he'll find kubunru an excellent OS16:17
BluesKajerr kubuntu :)16:17
kamilnadeemBluesKaj: I am asking for recommending it to people through my blog16:17
kamilnadeemBluesKaj: I was confident with Ubuntu 11.10 as it is running well for me and most , so I did a piece on it. But Kubuntu I am not entirely convinced that it is for a total new user.16:18
BluesKajyeah , i did that ..ppl din't hve aclue what Linux was ,,most of them anyway16:18
BluesKajkamilnadeem, actually most windows users will find kde more familair looking than gnome or unity16:19
kamilnadeemBluesKaj: may be you give them my blog address, as I have taken care for that issue particularly :)16:19
noaXesshey hy16:20
kamilnadeemBluesKaj: yeah but this random crashes and taskbar not freeing up closed windows might freak , your regular joe16:20
noaXesswhat is now the default package manager for kubuntu 11.10? muon or apper?16:20
noaXesshey BluesKaj16:20
kamilnadeemit is a different thing If an experienced linux user is beside them16:21
BluesKajhi noaXess, it's a toss up16:21
kamilnadeemBluesKaj: may I come private and give you the website ?16:22
noaXesstoss?16:22
noaXessBluesKaj: ?16:22
BluesKajnoaXess, I still use synaptic ..IMO it's still the best ..gtk or no16:22
noaXessBluesKaj: aha.. so.. user choise.. or cli ;)16:22
kamilnadeemI will not post it here as it is considered spam16:22
kamilnadeem:)16:22
BluesKajcli is my choice 90% of the the time for installs ,  synaptic acts as a reference guide to apps for me16:23
ken____need some help... how do I get some?16:23
BluesKajjust ask16:24
noaXessBluesKaj: i ever have the problem with the nepomuk message on startup.. nothing helped, also settings in session management to exclude following from start: akonadi,akonadi_control,akonadiserver,akonaditray,nepomuk,nepomukserver16:24
noaXessthey start anyway..16:24
ken____I did earlier but was ignored16:24
ken____looking for help to remove the low-fat settings. I tried blogs and google searches to no avail16:25
kamilnadeemhave to go now16:28
kamilnadeemPeace Be With all16:28
noaXesswhat you thingk about this: sudo chmod -x /usr/bin/*akonadi* /usr/bin/*nepomuk*16:30
noaXessbetter this: http://ubuntuku.org/16/how-to-disable-nepomuk-akonadi/16:30
BluesKajnoaXess, I use the restore previous session option , after making sure they are tuned off , by quitting them in the panel notification area16:31
noaXessBluesKaj: me too.. but doesn't help :(16:32
BluesKajnoaXess, as well as listing nepomuk and akonadi in the text16:32
noaXessBluesKaj: this is my list for Applications to be  excluded  from sessions: akonadi,akonadi_control,akonadiserver,akonaditray,nepomuk,nepomukserver16:33
BluesKajnoaXess, I hust have nepomuk, akonadi16:33
BluesKajjust16:33
ken____Blueskaj: I guess a better question to ask is: am I asking for help properly?16:33
BluesKaj!low-fat16:34
BluesKajoops16:35
ken____sorry, just very new to all this16:35
BluesKaj!low fat16:35
horbrosheyylo16:35
horbrosanybody here??16:36
horbroskubuntu fans?16:36
noaXessalll horbros16:37
ken____fan here... issues too... looking for answers16:37
horbroshey noa ahan16:37
horbrosanswers for wat ken?16:37
ken____removing for uninstalling kubuntu low-fat settings16:38
PiciI thought we had a factoid for that, but I can't find it.16:38
horbrosfedora vs ubuntu?16:38
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BluesKajken____, open a terminal, sudo apt-get remove kubunt-low-fat-settings16:38
ken____horbros: I tried serching blogs and goole but to no avail16:39
horbrosapt-get is god of kubuntu16:39
horbrosnever denies ur requests :)16:39
BluesKajken____, correction open a terminal, sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-low-fat-settings16:39
horbrosblues is right16:39
ken____gotcha16:39
ken____trying it now16:39
horbroskewl16:39
ken____Thanks! I need linux for dummies! I love Kubuntu and trying to like Linux16:41
ken____it worked16:42
BluesKajken____, you can always ask here, that's what this chat is for :)16:42
ken____BluesKaj: I appreciate that, just never knew how to use this properly16:43
BluesKajken____, there are tutorials for the terminal or command line as it's also called , with common commands to install remove packages and applications16:44
kernelpanicHello! Using kubuntu 11.10, my netwokmanager applet next to the clock always forgets wireless and vpn passwords, so that i have to re-enter them all the time. This seems to be independant of whether i store the passwords in a file or kwallet. Is this  a known bug?16:46
ken____BluesKaj: I try to use those tutorials especially in the ubuntu documentation but it does get a bit confusing to a new Windows convert16:46
ken____BluesKaj: thanks again, rebooting to assert changes16:47
BluesKajken____, in the command line apt-get basically looks in the repositories or your pc for the package name and retrieves the proper application . either to install or remove /uninstall16:48
BluesKajto slow16:48
BluesKajtoo16:48
BluesKajkernelpanic, yes, but I can't recall the fix , try , /etc/network/interfaces restart16:51
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ken____BluesKaj: I have another question for you. since upgrading to 11.10 I now get an error for the Mail Dispatcher Agent - but I never set-up Kontact17:04
BluesKajken____, yeah , that's known bug , you can turn of notifications in kmenu>computer>system settings>application&system notifications17:08
BluesKajof=off17:08
ken____thx again17:08
ken____can I safely uninstall kontact?17:09
ken____I use gmail17:09
BluesKajken____, if you aren't using kamil or kontact , you can always remove them as well17:09
charly___hello do you like ubuntu 11.10 and gnome 3?17:10
BluesKajyes , sudo apt-get remove kmail kontact , that will remove both , ken____17:10
BluesKajken____, in the command line apt-get basically looks in the repositories or your pc for the package name and retrieves the proper application . either to install or remove /uninstall17:11
kernelpanicBluesKaj: when, every time i reboot?17:12
ken____BluesKaj: I have learned a lot today. looking forward to truely understanding kubuntu/linux17:12
BluesKajken____, welcome to kubuntu/Linux ...it's arewarding experience IMO :)17:13
ken____BluesKaj: and a frustrating one17:14
ken____:)17:14
BluesKajkernelpanic, not sure , i haven't used the networkamanger in a few yrs ...using ethernet I rely on my /etc/network/interfaces to do the connectivity17:15
kernelpanicBluesKaj: ah... well this is on a notebook, and I get a mood like a dictator whenever it comes back up from standby.17:16
BluesKajken____, well pcs are frustratring in general , but Linux is more configurable which gives a helluva a lot more options, , therefore more fun to use17:17
BluesKajken____, I'm an old windows guy too , but I'm totally sold on Linux now.17:19
ken____BluesKaj: agreed!. when I typed in the command you gave me earlier to remove kmail, it also wants to remove a lot more stuff like: plasma-wallpapers, etc17:19
BluesKajuhoh , I didn't have that come up17:19
BarkingFish0o° - this is weird.  I was just installing some software, and apper's gone -11 on me. No idea why, it's never happened before.17:20
ken____Removing kde-full ...17:21
ken____Removing kde-standard ...17:21
ken____Removing kdepim ...17:21
ken____Removing kmail ...17:21
ken____Removing kontact ...17:21
ken____Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme ...17:21
ken____Processing triggers for libc-bin ...17:21
ken____ldconfig deferred processing now taking place17:21
BarkingFish!flood | ken____17:21
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ken____sorry17:21
BluesKajken____, did you migrate from ubuntu/gnome by any chance?17:21
ken____no17:22
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BluesKajok. ken you may want this package , kubuntu-restricted-extras for media17:23
ken____BluesKaj: I partitioned out the home directory so I wouldn't lose my data when I crash the OS17:23
ken____BluesKaj: I did get that17:23
BluesKajken____, so you have / ,and /home partitions ..good move17:24
ken____BluesKaj: crashing the OS is something I've done a lot of trying to get my video card to work. but then 11.10 came along and fixed that17:25
ken____yes17:25
BluesKajdid you install the recommended drivers ?17:25
ken____BluesKaj: everything I did failed miserably and I could not even boot into failsafe mode17:26
BluesKajken____, look in kmenu>apps>system>additional drivers ...onboard ati graphics modules probly won't be listed (installed by default), but most nvidia drivers will be.17:28
ken____BluesKaj: for nVidia GeForce 9300 it recommended 270.x.x was supported and anything I tried (including additional drivers ) failed. it would indicate that it was in use but not activated17:30
ken____or activated but not in use17:31
BluesKajdid you activate ?...the nvidia 9300 should be using the 280 or 285 driver17:32
ken____285 you're correct17:32
ken____tried many times and did not know how to use this forum... so I did a fresh install with 11.10 and fixed the problem17:33
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BluesKajken____, you have desktop effects enabled etc in system settings ?17:33
ken____BluesKaj, they would work but very choppy, everything was slow and as many times as I fresh installed 10.10 could never get it to work17:35
BluesKajken____, what about videos that put a load on the graphics card/cpu like games or hi def movies ?17:37
ken____BluesKaj, so I lived with it until a couple weeks ago when 11.10 came out17:37
ken____BluesKaj, choppy, slow FPS17:37
ken____BluesKaj, voice out of sync and choppy17:38
BluesKajken____, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras17:38
BluesKaj!medibuntu | ken____17:39
ubottuken____: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org17:39
BluesKajwell , i have some more Christamas lights setup , so I'll be gone for an hr or so17:41
BluesKajBBL, stuff to do17:41
ken____BluesKaj, The video is working well now17:42
ken____ok - enjoy17:42
lovrehi all. Im trying to make an application, but w/o "make install", i just want to run it. Where can i find the binary? There are a lot of files generated, but i dont see the binaryy17:53
new2netI am running a program that seems to pwn xserver for some reason (lets not jump the gun and blame unity)  and it locks everything up. Is there any way (when I drop down to a tty with shift+ctrl+f1) to restart xserver?17:53
lovreok, never mind i find the binary :)17:54
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extiohello room.  i have no idea of how to use linux, yet would like to install it on a slow laptop18:14
extioso ubuntu seemed like a good choice18:14
extioanyways i wanted a slightly faster distro18:14
extioany suggestions?18:14
extioshould i kubuntu and xubuntu are the two im currently comparing, but its hard to tell a difference18:14
sluckxzlubuntu is supposed to be pretty lite18:15
sluckxznever tried it my self though.18:15
extiowith a slow computer, i guess i will give it a try18:16
sluckxzthere are some meta packages that might help lighten up the install you have already18:18
lovrehi all. The application KGmailNotifier crashes and blocks when trying to close it. It gives the following error: glibc detected - corrupted double-linked list.... What is this, and can it be fix?18:24
ken____sluckxz, there is an alternative for older computers xubuntu then switch to the XLDE desktop at login18:27
sluckxzcheers ken____18:30
ken____sluckxz that would be Xfce not XLDE18:31
sluckxzextio was asking about a lite - er  version.  im gonna stick with kde personally.18:32
rorkextio: lubuntu is the lightest but harder to configure, if you're new I'd suggest Xubuntu, For older machines I won't recommend Kubuntu as it's integration, settings and visuals require quite some resources (although it has a "light" option18:32
rorkextio: it also depends on how you define "slow laptop"18:33
extioits slow because it has windows now, and it has few things installed, yet if i click on something it takes a while to load, and its as likely a virus for all i know but its an old laptop, so a new install of linux is easier than fixing it18:49
extioanyways in case its just a really slow processor, i wanted something that wasnt graphically heavy and without too much system use in general18:50
extiobut i am new, so easier is better.18:51
TImewarper how can i blacklist a user sshd (stop that user from using ssh)?18:59
Peace-TImewarper: groups?18:59
TImewarperwhat group is that18:59
DarthFrogTImewarper: A user with a proper account on your system or a remote user trying to get into your system?19:00
Peace-!groups19:00
argentumпривет, кто сталкивался с 2мя видеокартами на ноутбуке?19:07
Pici!ru19:07
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argentumsorry...19:07
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Timewarperi need to run xhost +localhost everytime i reboot, how can i make this command permanent?19:23
Peace-Timewarper: in autostart19:23
DarthFrogTimewarper: Put a shell script in ~/.kde/Autostart19:23
TimewarperPeace-, i there a file i can edit in ~ ?19:23
Timewarperi dont want to use kde's autostart scripts19:24
Timewarperany other way?19:24
Peace-Timewarper: you don't use kde's autostart scripts19:24
Peace-you create a new one script19:24
Peace-that is19:24
Peace-scripts that are on autostartfolder are loaded19:24
Peace-automatically19:24
TimewarperPeace-, can i write that command somewhere to be run?19:25
Timewarperxhost +localhost?19:25
Timewarperin some file19:25
DarthFrogTimewarper: We just told you how to do exactly that.19:25
Peace-Timewarper:  echo '!#/bin/bash' > ~/.kde/Autostart19:26
Peace-Timewarper:  echo "xhost +localhost" >> ~/.kde/Autostart19:26
TimewarperPeace-, is autostart a file or folder?19:26
Peace-oh sory19:26
DarthFrogPeace-:  Um, you want to give it a file name. :-)19:26
Peace-Timewarper:  echo "xhost +localhost" >> ~/.kde/Autostart/scripton19:27
Peace-Timewarper: correct with the name19:27
Peace-btw19:27
TimewarperPeace-, do i need to chmod iit?19:27
Peace-Timewarper: ys19:27
Timewarperchmod +a +x19:27
Peace-chmox +x19:27
Peace-omg19:27
* Peace- why there is not autocomplete bash here on irc?19:27
DarthFrogPeace-: Is the blood level in your caffeine system a bit too high?  :-)19:28
Timewarperlol19:28
Peace-xD19:28
Timewarperthere may be a script to autocomplete bash in irc19:28
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Timewarperbtw19:30
Timewarperwhat does !#/bin/bash do in scripts?19:30
Timewarpertell them to use bash?19:30
Peace-yes19:30
Timewarperi think i have seen scripts with just /bin/bash at the strt19:31
Timewarperwithout !#19:31
DarthFrogTimewarper: Then they're not shell scripts.19:31
sluckxzanybody get freenx working on 11.10?19:31
DarthFrogthe shebang is necessary.  Unless you pass the file name onto bash, viz:  bash <filename>19:31
TimewarperPeace-, also it is #! not the other way arround19:33
DarthFrogTimewarper: The shebang line is necessary to identify the correct command processor.  It might not be /bin/bash.   It could be, eg. /bin/perl for a perl script, /bin/python for a python script or /bin/csh for a C shell script.19:33
Peace-Timewarper: you right :)19:33
Peace-i ma  a bit tired19:33
TimewarperDarthFrog, do we name bash scripts .sh?19:34
Timewarperin general19:34
DarthFrogTimewarper:  File extentions are meanginless in Unix.19:34
TimewarperDarthFrog, i know19:34
Timewarperi try to remember the norm19:34
DarthFrogNaming it .sh is for your convenience only, means nothing to the shell.19:34
Peace-+119:35
DarthFrogMany scripts do not have any extentions at all.19:35
Timewarperok then19:35
Timewarperk thx bye19:35
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sluckxzwell NOMACHINEs 4 beta nxserver is simple to install and works great.  really hope an open nx server gets up to speed but until then at least it works.20:17
PhilRod_sluckxz: does it still require root to install?20:18
sluckxzyea20:18
humehi...I've just recently switched to kubuntu from ubuntu (11.10) and like it. I'm trying to understand and make use of activities. Now: sometimes when I switch activities, a window appears that wants to start some programs. Can I cutomize this feature for a new activity? Is it a widget or....?20:18
PhilRod_sluckxz: ah, pity. I would like to get a faster remote X thing on some machines where I don't have root20:19
sluckxzdo you have any solution without being root?20:20
RoadsterGTI am running firefox as another user (sudo -u john -H firefox) but i have no sound. It appears it cant connect to alsa. How can i fix that?20:24
sluckxzhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=174435920:28
sluckxzdid you see that RoadsterGT20:28
RoadsterGTsluckxz, doesnt say much20:31
sluckxzSo I tried: pkill pulse and restarted Chrome as different user. Now I get sound ! But of course now there is no more sound as the user I currently am logged in with20:34
sluckxzunless I restart the pulseaudio-daemon20:34
RoadsterGTi dont use pulse20:35
RoadsterGTand besides you cant kill the daemon each time you want to open firefox20:35
RoadsterGTthe answer20:37
RoadsterGThttp://alsa.opensrc.org/Dmix#1._Install_aoss.2C_alsaplayer.2C_mpg32120:37
sluckxzcool20:39
akuariuswtf20:55
akuariusno one talk?20:55
akuariuswtf is happening here?20:55
Resistancelag time ;P20:55
akuariushum i see20:56
Resistancealso this is the support channel not the social channel20:56
Resistanceso...20:56
Resistanceakuarius, do you need help with something?20:56
akuariusyes i need20:56
akuariusim trying to robe a bank with ubuntu, can u tell me what i have to do?20:57
akuariusim a poor guy and i nedd funds to bye a new car20:57
Resistanceyeah i can tell you what to do20:58
Resistanceread the code of conduct and channel rules20:58
akuariusty :)20:58
Resistancebefore asking about illegal crap20:58
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akuariushum ok sorry i dont knew it that20:58
akuariusok no problem20:58
akuariusty ubottu20:59
akuariusand can u tell me whats the best free shooter game to ubuntu? to play online?20:59
akuariusim new ubuntu user :)21:00
akuariusso will u help me?21:01
akuariusomg21:02
Resistanceunfortunately i dont play games on ubuntu ;P21:02
akuariuswhat u do on ubuntu can i know?21:03
Resistancenope i cannot divulge that information ;P21:03
akuariusi saw a movie on ubuntu and its to slow frames omg21:03
* Resistance does [SECRET CODING WORK] for [UNDISCLOSED ENTITY]21:03
akuariushow can i fix the image to see movies with no lagg?21:04
akuariuslol21:04
akuariusahaha21:04
akuariusi see u r comic21:04
BluesKaj!medibuntu  | akuarius21:04
ubottuakuarius: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org21:04
akuariusare u admin?21:05
BluesKajakuarius, also install kubuntu-restricted-extras21:05
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akuariuslol21:06
akuariusok21:06
akuariusty21:06
BluesKajno lols either :)21:06
akuariusu are good21:07
BluesKajakuarius, your last warning , don't puh it21:08
BluesKajpush21:08
akuariusok so go fuck uerself and kiss my 21 letter of modern latin alphabet cock and kiss my ass to bye21:09
Resistance!language21:09
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Resistanceoops pici ninja'd21:09
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BluesKajResistance, no point , don't react21:10
F1rebird^937q^Ciao a tutti :P21:17
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btchero1I have a problem and I need some help figuring out the search terms to google it.  The thing in the top right you click has quit showing all the apps running when clicked/now just a drop down menu.  What should i be searching for21:44
BluesKajbtchero1, are you on ubuntu/gnome or kubuntu/kde?21:48
YawningAngelCan anyone tell me how best to start troubleshooting a slow/unreliable network interface?22:07
BluesKajYawningAngel, ethernet or wifi ?22:08
YawningAngelEthernet22:09
BluesKajrouter-modem or just modem ?22:09
YawningAngelI have a combo router/modem22:09
YawningAngelMy network interface has been fine under other linuxes22:09
YawningAngelSo I'm suspecting it's a software config issue somewhere22:09
YawningAngelBut I have no idea where to start looking22:09
BluesKajYawningAngel,  open a terminal and run this command , sudo dhclient eth022:11
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YawningAngelHold up, I'll have to reboot, went onto a system with a working eth interface :p22:12
YawningAngelbrb22:12
YawningAngelRight22:16
YawningAngelI get the output "RTNETLINK answers: File exists"22:17
BluesKajYawningAngel, i recommend this setup for ppl with network manager problems on kubuntu. http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/22:25
YawningAngelThanks very much, I'll take a look22:25
BluesKajthen you can run without the network manager interference layer , as I call it22:26
YawningAngelMakes sense, I'll set it up as you suggest22:26
YawningAngelThank you very much22:27
BluesKajYawningAngel, good luck, sorry , but i have to leave22:27
sluckxzanybody loving ubuntu one using kde?22:29
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sercanubuntu da hdd bağlama nasıl yapılıyor bilen varmı22:53
ashley_hi, can someone please pm me... im still a bit of a newb i guess you could say, and im having difficulty with my firefox. If I get a PM i will explain further23:05
PhoenixzI have my kubuntu laptop at work and some bright light decided to make the wifi SSID hidden "for more security" (yes, I know, dont even bother, barking up the wrong tree there) and now I have  the problem that my knetwork manager does not want to connect / seems unable to connect to that hidden SSID.. Help?23:06
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clashingwaveHello all, I'm trying to get two finger tap to work for my touchpad, but I can seem to get it to work, I have tried using the options in the system settings, but those don't seem to take  effect. can anyone help me with this please?23:29
amasonclashingwave: what kind of touchpad do you have ?23:30
clashingwaveIt seems to be a standered touchpad on most laptops23:31
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amasonwhich driver is it using ?23:32
clashingwaveThe hardware information givin in the Touchpad settings is SynPS/2 Synaptics23:34
clashingwaveIm not sure as to what driver its using23:34
tharkunPeople how can i switch between workspaces on kde and how can i add more?23:34
orpamy one use opendns?23:37
amasontharkun: you can choose in the preferences23:37
amasontharkun: and if you right click on the pager23:37
amasonyou can add more23:37
amasonorp: not atm but I was previously23:37
tharkunamason: where is the pager?23:37
tharkunand there seems to be no option under preferences :(23:38
clashingwavetharkun: In the system settings click on the icon "Workspace Behavior"  you will see virtual desktops and in there  you can add more23:41
orpdid you lik134e it23:47
orpdid you like that ?23:47
orpi don' t see any diffrence23:48
orpi still don't know the difrence betwin chrome and chromium23:51
orpany one know it ?23:52
sercanError mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:23:52
sercan[mntent]: line 1 in /etc/fstab is bad23:52
sercan[mntent]: line 2 in /etc/fstab is bad23:52
sercan[mntent]: line 10 in /etc/fstab is bad23:52
sercanmount: can't find /dev/sdb2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab23:52
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