[00:01] <rav> genii_around: thanks for the help. i'm going to install lucid, then upgrade to maverick which is what i have on the old laptop
[00:02] <genii-around> rav: Hopefully it goes well!
[00:02] <CadetX> does ubuntu 10.10 ship the latest flash (i have 64bit system so i need 64bit flash too) or i should get it from adobe site?
[00:05] <genii-around> CadetX: Do you mean 11.10 ( Oneiric Ocelot ) or 10.10 ( Maverick Meerkat )
[00:05] <CadetX> genii-around, yes
[00:05] <CadetX> the last one
[00:05] <CadetX> 11.10
[00:06] <genii-around> !info flashplugin-installer
[00:07] <genii-around> So it comes with version 11.1
[00:07] <Timewarper> genii-around, both 64bit and 32bit?
[00:08] <genii-around> Timewarper: As it says at the end  (Only available for i386 amd64)     so 32bit and 64bit
[00:08] <Timewarper> kk
[00:08] <Timewarper> thanks
[00:09] <Timewarper> 11.1.102.55
[00:09] <Timewarper> last flash
[00:13] <genii-around> Timewarper: According to http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/  that is the most recent version. So to answer your earlier question, yes it has the most recent version.
[00:20] <Binge> anyone here ?
[00:20] <Binge> i just downloaded the kubuntu 11.10, id like to use wubi installer, but there seems there is no option to install kubuntu from within windows in this version ?
[00:31] <JoeSomebody> what do you guys recommend for remote desktop support package, i was using teamviewer ...
[00:37] <amason> JoeSomebody: i like x2go, it's not so much of a support package as it is a remote desktop solution
[00:37] <amason> but it's quite fast
[00:37] <amason> secure as it's tunnelled over ssh
[00:37] <JoeSomebody> thanks i'll check that out
[00:40] <billytwowilly> anybody know what updatedb.mlocat tainted means in dmesg?
[00:40] <billytwowilly> my hard drive is filling up with crap, rsyslogd and  updatedb.mlocat are at 100% cpu usage
[00:45] <JoeSomebody> ok trying a hp 1020 laserjet, its not going well, cannot print a test
[00:47] <JoeSomebody> it set itself up, but no test print, i deleted it, and with new one still no test print
[00:51] <JoeSomebody> is there a list of printers somewhere it likes ?
[01:06] <Orcris> How do I find my mouse's DPI?
[01:09] <anjilslaire> @dion: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1191090
[01:09] <anjilslaire> in software, it looks like? You have a logitech mouse?
[01:11] <Orcris> Yeah, it's a logitech.
[01:36] <master> hallo
[01:38] <Staly_Nick> hi whats goin on with ubuntu? after few days uptime its goin crazy, hdd is like grr grr grr and i cant do nothing, even X mouse cursor don't move, or move like by slideshow. Mayby its some memory lack?
[01:41] <frogonwheels> Staly_Nick: hm.. having that kinda problem too- wonder if it's to do with the updates (ie processing if there are any updates avail)
[01:44] <Staly_Nick> what is fsck?
[01:44] <Staly_Nick> whats that?
[01:44] <Staly_Nick> FSCK
[01:45] <Staly_Nick> sorry, i ask, cos i have gprs connection and better not to load any ww sites.
[01:50] <m4xx_> i've just installed kubuntu on my laptop. everything seems to be working just fine. when i go into the system settings it says my trackpad isn't found yet it works just fine
[01:51] <m4xx_> version 11.10
[01:51] <m4xx_> anyone have any ideas?
[02:18] <amason> Staly_Nick: links will let you view www sites in text mode
[02:18] <amason> no flash / images etc.. that chew your bandwidth
[02:19] <Staly_Nick> nevermind, ill delete ubuntu and go ack to old school > WINDOWS ^_^
[02:19] <amason> ok whatever works for you.
[02:20] <Staly_Nick> Only vodka!
[02:23] <Joit_> is sun java actually supported for kubunut or any usefull? or does it mess up anything
[02:23] <Joit_> Kubunut*
[02:23] <Joit_> kubuntu
[02:23] <Staly_Nick> in ubuntu is one problem. After a 2, 3 days uptime sysyetm starts to being lazy, and after some work the hdd goes crazy. You cant do nothing, even go to other console and shut up this first. Only hard reset.
[02:24] <Joit> mines works so far since a few days nick
[02:24] <Staly_Nick> Joit: start work with java!
[02:24] <Joit> i only need it for some pages, not to work with it
[02:24] <Staly_Nick> im too
[02:24] <Joit> but i cant past at the one i have installed
[02:25] <Staly_Nick> ive installed last from Sun and it works fine
[02:28] <Joit> ok, ty i may give it a try
[02:29] <Staly_Nick> Joit: install Windows. Its fine, smooth. Workin on WIndows is like f wet pussy. After 64bit Vista none of BSOD.
[02:29] <Joit> last time i installed it and anything messed up
[02:29] <Staly_Nick> i can't : ( cos Windows price is to high for me
[02:30] <Joit> well i had a long time now windows, never did go over w2k because anything ese is pure crap, if its xp vista or any thing else
[02:30] <Joit> windows bloads up slows down call home and ask for any cheat for a key
[02:31] <Joit> its pure making money, they let the consumer develope them vista, and did let them pay for that
[02:31] <Joit> as vista cames out nothing did work, and its not better today. all the pages what you can find about is how to fix that crap what they are progreamming
[02:31] <Joit> so not really a alternative
[02:32] <Staly_Nick> its windows, its f best X that i even seen
[02:32] <Staly_Nick> r
[02:32] <Joit> over complicated, not to use for a average person
[02:32] <Joit> i got more then enough friends, what i have to fix her pc all time
[02:33] <Joit> another friend did format every 6 months his windows because it did not work anymore
[02:33] <Joit> that was xp
[02:34] <Staly_Nick> they should upgrade their pcs and install vista 64 ultimate, none of home or pro, no 7 only vista 6001
[02:34] <Joit> and after a while, through all the different installations from different programs all system files are messed up
[02:37] <Joit> even when i think sometimes, some from the windows freaks work at certain linux distributions to mess the versions up
[02:38] <Staly_Nick> i have used vista ultimate for long time, test mode. Uptimes more than 3 months, and ive played games, www, progs, that, and that, and that too in one session. No BSOD, nothing wrong! Everytime fast, smooth, even, when memory goes up to 9X%. Easy, taskman, ...... what versions?
[02:52] <amason> Staly_Nick: if you are happy with windows why bother with ubuntu ?
[02:52] <amason> it's obviously not a good fit for you
[02:54] <Staly_Nick> yep. I work with Perl and Python, thats why.
[02:54] <amason> pretty sure perl and python have windows version
[02:55] <Daskreech> Staly_Nick: What are you trying to get done?
[02:58] <Staly_Nick> yep, but when i start windows i only play Mafia, Fahrenheit, Mass Effect, or similiar games, and i shold work, not play with games. Next problem is that Ive got no more windows, cos my chef said, it is illegal to have a copy of it. Ubuntu is good, not so far from user friendly win, but what a "mist"
[02:58] <Daskreech> Staly_Nick: what's the issue you are running into?
[03:03] <Staly_Nick> i have firefox, 10 sites opened. Konversation, Xchat, Pidgin, running. 2,3,4 days and my hdd goes crazy. It is at reading or writing something and i cant do anything else. Not even move mouse cursor. I want to go to second console und kill the first one, but its like i would have an 8086 4MHz with 640kb RAM.
[03:04] <Staly_Nick> 2,3,4 days of uptime
[03:04] <Staly_Nick> at work we dont turn off pcs
[03:05] <Daskreech> Staly_Nick: What's on the second terminal ?
[03:05] <Daskreech> And how much swap do you have?
[03:09] <Staly_Nick> On second terminal is normal, login, pass. I go as root, but directly (automatic) is loading Xserver, but! it takes two days to run up! Swap i have on 500gb hdd. I think 10GB.
[03:17] <Daskreech> How much RAM Staly_Nick>
[03:22] <Staly_Nick> 2 gigs Daskreech
[03:25] <Daskreech> Staly_Nick: How much is FF taking?
[03:29] <Staly_Nick> more than exist. Yep, thats the problem. FF and Java. Java applet in FF is so huge, that .. it eats whole memory.
[03:31] <Daskreech> Staly_Nick: there you go kill that page till it's needed
[03:33] <Staly_Nick> it's something wrong
[03:33] <Daskreech> submit a bug report to the website
[03:36] <Staly_Nick> on windows i have all that and even more, games at background, more apps in background, and more instances running web-java engine. Was no prolem untill my chefs checked, that ive got illegal copy of windows. Must to delete it.
[03:37] <Daskreech> Staly_Nick: might want to submit it to icedtea as well
[04:03] <sluckxz> i was doing a large install kde-desktop-full i think with muon and now im pretty sure its hung up installing at 39% plasma-runners-addons.  pretty sure im gonna have to kill it and try with apt or something.
[04:17] <Sssstttt> urlin2u from #ubuntu is a f bitch. ;(
[04:17] <Sssstttt> good night.
[04:41] <benbloom> crazy noob question, i just upgraded to 11.10 and cant figure how to change the wallpaper?
[04:43] <benbloom> k figured it out
[04:58] <sluckxz> frozen-bubble doesnt let me into graphics options.
[05:37] <RandomRoger> Hi, Im trying to connect to a hidden wireless network. When I click into the network manager I click the button for hidden, type in the name and press enter, but nothing happens after, can anyone help ?
[05:40] <Guest26339> hello world
[05:40] <RandomRoger> Indeed
[05:43] <CarlFK> RandomRoger: terminal, dmesg.. might be some clues at the end
[08:04] <littlegirl> Hey there, I use Kubuntu Lucid Lynx and Dolphin sorts directories and files with lower case names first followed by upper case names. Is there any way I can tell it to sort them all together? In other words, I'd like a and A to be at the top of the listing and z and Z to be at the bottom. Currently a is at the top, A is in the middle, etc.
[08:08] <littlegirl> Maybe I should try wording it differently. I have Dolphin set to sort directories and files in ascending order by name. Currently it sorts them like this: a b c A B C and I would like it to sort them like this: a A b B c C - can it be done?
[08:09] <littlegirl> Thanks! You guys have been incredibly helpful. (:
[08:17] <rawler_> hey..
[08:18] <rawler_> does anyone know if it's possible to force Wireless-mode to G for one connection in Network Manager?
[08:32] <Guest70887> saludos
[09:51] <RROD666> Hey, I was curious what is the URL for Kubuntu testing?
[09:52] <RROD666> I know for Ubuntu it is http://www.ubuntu.com/testing
[11:25] <starslights> hi, i have become some new mail about "Ubuntu ISO Testing team: New build notification" but it's a new server as previous tests, now it's on "http://91.189.93.73/qatracker/milestones" and the site warn me about a not Warning: http://91.189.93.73/ does not look like a trustworthy URL.   It's is normal ?
[11:43] <starslights> ok, i have found a answer in the old iso.qu.ubuntu.com, it say that we must use the new adress.. bye
[11:52] <sercan> benshee müzik listesindeki müzikler çalmıyor
[11:52] <sercan>  sürekli içe aktarma yapıyorum
[11:52] <sercan>  nasıl çözübilirim
[11:53] <sercan> I do not play music continuously import benshee music list, how can I solve
[11:56] <sercan> music list, music does not play
[11:56] <sercan>  banshee
[11:57] <sercan> to run it says fatal error
[12:20] <qwertz> Hello, I can no longer log in. Before I logged out the system told me, that it is running out of space.
[12:20] <qwertz> What can I do? I already tried to remove a lot of files without sucdcess.
[12:24] <szal> what is the error msg when trying to log in?
[12:26] <qwertz> szal: I dont get any error message, I mean, it just shows me the login screen again and again.
[12:26] <qwertz> I get log in on the console
[12:27] <qwertz> I csan log in through the console
[12:27] <qwertz> but not through the GUI
[12:27] <szal> places of interest to look at -> /var/log/kdm.log, /var/log/Xorg.0.log, ~/.Xsession-errors
[12:28] <qwertz> Okay, let me see
[12:33] <vprints> qwertz: log in from the console
[12:33] <vprints> and do
[12:33] <qwertz> szal: ~/.Xsession-errors is empty
[12:33] <vprints>  sudo apt-get clean
[12:33] <vprints> try to log in graphically
[12:33] <vprints> if it still dosent eor
[12:34] <vprints> again console
[12:34] <qwertz> vprints: I will try.
[12:34] <vprints> sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:34] <vprints> sudo apt-get clean
[12:34] <vprints> (again)
[12:34] <vprints> then try graphical
[12:36] <szal> !enter | vprints
[12:40] <daviddoria> I think they are both turned off, but AkonadiTray and Nepomuk File Indexing still appear in my panel. Is there a way to remove them?
[12:41] <vprints> ??
[12:42] <vprints> i find it easier for beginners if the commands are on seperate lines
[12:43] <vprints> less mistakes in applying the commands
[12:45] <qwertz> vprints: I can still not log in through the gui.
[12:46] <qwertz> I noticed, that I canot copy anything to my home-dir. It says disk full.
[12:47] <qwertz> but 'df -h' says /dev/sda1 97%
[12:47] <qwertz> so it is not competly full
[12:47] <vprints> do you have seperate partitions?
[12:47] <qwertz> I already removed some files.
[12:48] <vprints> what partitions besides sda1 are listed?
[12:48] <qwertz> vprints: no
[12:48] <qwertz> none's
[12:50] <vprints> did you also do the "sudo apt-get autoremove" ?
[12:50] <qwertz> yes
[12:51] <vprints> how big is sda1 ?
[12:52] <qwertz> 36G
[12:52] <vprints> did you recently download something bigger than usual ?
[12:53] <vprints> or intsall new software?
[12:53] <qwertz> I tried to recover some files, but stopped it
[12:53] <qwertz> I guess the disk was really full
[12:53] <qwertz> but it isn't anymore
[12:54] <qwertz> but the system does not notice it
[12:54] <vinnie_> anyone know of a good network monitor that will monitor TOTAL network usage?
[12:55] <vprints> what folder did you recover to ?
[12:55] <vprints> the target folder
[12:56] <qwertz> i tried to recover to a folder in my home deirectory
[12:56] <qwertz> but dejup did not do it
[12:56] <qwertz> so I stopped te recover
[12:57] <vprints> do you have a memory stick or external drive ?
[12:58] <vprints> you could move something in your home directory to external medium
[12:58] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:00] <qwertz> vprints: I already tried to add an external harddisk, but could not access it
[13:01] <qwertz> vprints: and as root i could neither do it
[13:01] <qwertz> But I will tr to move some data from home to /var
[13:04] <vprints> qwertz: that will not help if you only have one partition
[13:05] <vprints> qwertz: how could you not access the external disk?
[13:06] <qwertz> It said, that I have not enough rights to access /media/disk
[13:12] <vprints> can you tell me how you mounted it?
[13:12] <qwertz> I thought ios was mounted automatically
[13:12] <vprints> if no graphical environment then you have to mount it manually
[13:13] <vprints> ;)
[13:13] <vprints> i guess there is Your problem
[13:13] <qwertz> ha, okay
[13:14] <qwertz> but I already removed some files, so I don't thinki, that it will fix my problem to move some files on external disk.
[13:16] <qwertz> I think something is wrong in my home dir.
[13:16] <vprints> well. 3 % free is not enough for normal work
[13:16] <vprints> so you have to remove something *anyway*
[13:16] <Torch> remember that some percentage of a file system is reserved for the root user when it fills up
[13:16] <qwertz> yes, sure, but I would prefere to remove something with the gui.
[13:17] <vprints> qwertz: did you try rebooting?
[13:17] <qwertz> yes, I did several times.
[13:23] <qwertz> I tried to create another user
[13:24] <qwertz> and he could log in.
[13:24] <qwertz> I think I will cp the files of my old user to the new and remove my old.
[13:27] <fayaz> qwertz: you mean mv
[13:27] <qwertz> yes ;-)
[13:28] <qwertz> I know, this is jaust a workaround, but I cannot fix the real problem.
[13:30] <qwertz> thanks anyway, for all your hints!!!
[13:30] <vprints> np
[14:22] <faLUCE> Hi. I created an iso image of my os with remastersys. Unfortunately, I can boot from the live cd with this iso only if I add "nomodeset" option. Otherwise I see a black screen. In addition, after installing the OS from this livecd, booted with "nomodeset" option, I can't see the screen anymore. what's wrong?
[14:32] <BluesKaj> faLUCE, what line did you put the nomodeset , quiet spalsh ?
[14:39] <daviddoria> I think they are both turned off, but AkonadiTray and Nepomuk File Indexing still appear in my panel. Is there a way to remove them?
[14:45] <BluesKaj> daviddoria, in system settings > startup&shutdown> session management , type  nepomuk, akonadi into the textbox under "Applications to be excluded from sessions"
[14:46] <BluesKaj> then use the "Restore previous session on ligin" option
[14:47] <BluesKaj> err login
[14:51] <daviddoria> BluesKaj, do I have to use "previous session"? Shouldn't that exclude them from ever starting?
[14:52] <BluesKaj> yes
[14:52] <BluesKaj> make sure you have them listed in the textbox I mentioned
[14:52] <daviddoria> haha sorry, I asked two questions
[14:53] <daviddoria> BluesKaj, so why do I have to use previous session? (or do I not?)
[14:54] <BluesKaj> dunno why , you can try without it
[14:55] <BluesKaj> I always have restore previous sessions turned on , it's ahabit I'm used to
[14:56] <daviddoria> ok, let me log out and see if they disappear
[14:58] <daviddoria> BluesKaj, nope, they are still there
[14:59] <BluesKaj> right click on them to see if there's a quit option
[14:59] <BluesKaj> or hide
[14:59] <daviddoria> BluesKaj, yes, I can quit them. but they come back when I login
[15:00] <BluesKaj> that's why I restore the previous session :)
[15:00] <BluesKaj> understand ?
[15:00] <daviddoria> haha yes, but that seems silly :)
[15:01] <BluesKaj> why/
[15:01] <BluesKaj> ?
[15:02] <daviddoria> Usually the whole point of why i log out is to "start fresh"
[15:03] <BluesKaj> not really , depends on your preferences , daviddoria
[15:31] <Timewarper> does anyone know how latest gnome compare to kde resource-wise?
[15:33] <BluesKaj> Timewarper, resource-wise ? ...anything that runs on ubuntu/gnome will run on kubuntu/kde
[15:47] <Timewarper> any article
[15:48] <Timewarper> anyone knows/ has an article on how kde compares to ubuntu 2, regarding resource use (ram, cpu etc) ?
[15:59] <kamilnadeem> Hi
[15:59] <ken____> noob looking for some help with kubuntu low-fat settings removal
[15:59] <ken____> hi
[15:59] <kamilnadeem> people who haven't added the kubuntu ppa , what kde version are you running ?
[16:00] <ken____> just a sec
[16:01] <ken____> ok, where do I find that info? I just updgraded to 11.10
[16:02] <szal> Timewarper: what is 'ubuntu 2'?
[16:02] <kamilnadeem> When my kubuntu 11.10 boots past the splash screen , I am off late seeing a cog dancing ap and down and after that the desktop satrtup sound plays , why is that ?
[16:02] <BluesKaj> Timewarper, stop crossposting ..there are comparisons on the internet . just do a search
[16:02] <kamilnadeem> BluesKaj: hi
[16:03] <bline> somehow ended up with muon and apper, both now bugging about package updates. which one should I remove?
[16:03] <BluesKaj> hi kamilnadeem
[16:04] <kamilnadeem> BluesKaj: have you added the kubuntu ppa?
[16:04] <BluesKaj> no , I'm testing 12.04
[16:04] <Timewarper> szal, gnome 2 i meant
[16:05] <BluesKaj> so far it's more stable than 11.10 was :)
[16:05] <kamilnadeem> BluesKaj: I mean 11.10 , I am on 4.3 with the kubuntu ppa
[16:05] <BluesKaj> Timewarper, be careful the correction trolls will be on your case any moment
[16:06] <BluesKaj> kamilnadeem, 4.5 or 6 i'm sure
[16:07] <kamilnadeem> BluesKaj: sorry I am on 4.7.3
[16:07] <BluesKaj> same here
[16:07] <kamilnadeem> is it been released in the normal updates
[16:07] <kamilnadeem> going to do a blog post can mix up facts :)
[16:08] <kamilnadeem> can't*
[16:09] <BluesKaj> kamilnadeem, I think kde development versions caused a lot of problems on 11.10 , but I think 4.7 has finally reached a more stable state with all the fixes , there still are some glitches tho
[16:10] <BluesKaj> window sizing recall is aproblemn
[16:10] <kamilnadeem> BluesKaj: yes , it is excellent but random crashes are still happening like on restarting/shutting down  or just with application
[16:13] <BluesKaj> yeah plasma still crashes on shutdown sometimes
[16:13] <kamilnadeem> BluesKaj: what do you think, may I recommed Kubuntu to a total new user(like it will be his first distro)?
[16:15] <BluesKaj> kamilnadeem, depends , is he/she a problem solver type ...sometimes a LTS is best for new users , as long as you can guide the user that will help a lot
[16:17] <BluesKaj> kamilnadeem, is he very windows knowledgeable , if so , he'll find kubunru an excellent OS
[16:17] <BluesKaj> err kubuntu :)
[16:17] <kamilnadeem> BluesKaj: I am asking for recommending it to people through my blog
[16:18] <kamilnadeem> BluesKaj: I was confident with Ubuntu 11.10 as it is running well for me and most , so I did a piece on it. But Kubuntu I am not entirely convinced that it is for a total new user.
[16:18] <BluesKaj> yeah , i did that ..ppl din't hve aclue what Linux was ,,most of them anyway
[16:19] <BluesKaj> kamilnadeem, actually most windows users will find kde more familair looking than gnome or unity
[16:19] <kamilnadeem> BluesKaj: may be you give them my blog address, as I have taken care for that issue particularly :)
[16:20] <noaXess> hey hy
[16:20] <kamilnadeem> BluesKaj: yeah but this random crashes and taskbar not freeing up closed windows might freak , your regular joe
[16:20] <noaXess> what is now the default package manager for kubuntu 11.10? muon or apper?
[16:20] <noaXess> hey BluesKaj
[16:21] <kamilnadeem> it is a different thing If an experienced linux user is beside them
[16:21] <BluesKaj> hi noaXess, it's a toss up
[16:22] <kamilnadeem> BluesKaj: may I come private and give you the website ?
[16:22] <noaXess> toss?
[16:22] <noaXess> BluesKaj: ?
[16:22] <BluesKaj> noaXess, I still use synaptic ..IMO it's still the best ..gtk or no
[16:22] <noaXess> BluesKaj: aha.. so.. user choise.. or cli ;)
[16:22] <kamilnadeem> I will not post it here as it is considered spam
[16:22] <kamilnadeem> :)
[16:23] <BluesKaj> cli is my choice 90% of the the time for installs ,  synaptic acts as a reference guide to apps for me
[16:23] <ken____> need some help... how do I get some?
[16:24] <BluesKaj> just ask
[16:24] <noaXess> BluesKaj: i ever have the problem with the nepomuk message on startup.. nothing helped, also settings in session management to exclude following from start: akonadi,akonadi_control,akonadiserver,akonaditray,nepomuk,nepomukserver
[16:24] <noaXess> they start anyway..
[16:24] <ken____> I did earlier but was ignored
[16:25] <ken____> looking for help to remove the low-fat settings. I tried blogs and google searches to no avail
[16:28] <kamilnadeem> have to go now
[16:28] <kamilnadeem> Peace Be With all
[16:30] <noaXess> what you thingk about this: sudo chmod -x /usr/bin/*akonadi* /usr/bin/*nepomuk*
[16:30] <noaXess> better this: http://ubuntuku.org/16/how-to-disable-nepomuk-akonadi/
[16:31] <BluesKaj> noaXess, I use the restore previous session option , after making sure they are tuned off , by quitting them in the panel notification area
[16:32] <noaXess> BluesKaj: me too.. but doesn't help :(
[16:32] <BluesKaj> noaXess, as well as listing nepomuk and akonadi in the text
[16:33] <noaXess> BluesKaj: this is my list for Applications to be  excluded  from sessions: akonadi,akonadi_control,akonadiserver,akonaditray,nepomuk,nepomukserver
[16:33] <BluesKaj> noaXess, I hust have nepomuk, akonadi
[16:33] <BluesKaj> just
[16:33] <ken____> Blueskaj: I guess a better question to ask is: am I asking for help properly?
[16:34] <BluesKaj> !low-fat
[16:35] <BluesKaj> oops
[16:35] <ken____> sorry, just very new to all this
[16:35] <BluesKaj> !low fat
[16:35] <horbros> heyylo
[16:36] <horbros> anybody here??
[16:36] <horbros> kubuntu fans?
[16:37] <noaXess> alll horbros
[16:37] <ken____> fan here... issues too... looking for answers
[16:37] <horbros> hey noa ahan
[16:37] <horbros> answers for wat ken?
[16:38] <ken____> removing for uninstalling kubuntu low-fat settings
[16:38] <Pici> I thought we had a factoid for that, but I can't find it.
[16:38] <horbros> fedora vs ubuntu?
[16:38] <BluesKaj> ken____, open a terminal, sudo apt-get remove kubunt-low-fat-settings
[16:39] <ken____> horbros: I tried serching blogs and goole but to no avail
[16:39] <horbros> apt-get is god of kubuntu
[16:39] <horbros> never denies ur requests :)
[16:39] <BluesKaj> ken____, correction open a terminal, sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-low-fat-settings
[16:39] <horbros> blues is right
[16:39] <ken____> gotcha
[16:39] <ken____> trying it now
[16:39] <horbros> kewl
[16:41] <ken____> Thanks! I need linux for dummies! I love Kubuntu and trying to like Linux
[16:42] <ken____> it worked
[16:42] <BluesKaj> ken____, you can always ask here, that's what this chat is for :)
[16:43] <ken____> BluesKaj: I appreciate that, just never knew how to use this properly
[16:44] <BluesKaj> ken____, there are tutorials for the terminal or command line as it's also called , with common commands to install remove packages and applications
[16:46] <kernelpanic> Hello! Using kubuntu 11.10, my netwokmanager applet next to the clock always forgets wireless and vpn passwords, so that i have to re-enter them all the time. This seems to be independant of whether i store the passwords in a file or kwallet. Is this  a known bug?
[16:46] <ken____> BluesKaj: I try to use those tutorials especially in the ubuntu documentation but it does get a bit confusing to a new Windows convert
[16:47] <ken____> BluesKaj: thanks again, rebooting to assert changes
[16:48] <BluesKaj> ken____, in the command line apt-get basically looks in the repositories or your pc for the package name and retrieves the proper application . either to install or remove /uninstall
[16:48] <BluesKaj> to slow
[16:48] <BluesKaj> too
[16:51] <BluesKaj> kernelpanic, yes, but I can't recall the fix , try , /etc/network/interfaces restart
[17:04] <ken____> BluesKaj: I have another question for you. since upgrading to 11.10 I now get an error for the Mail Dispatcher Agent - but I never set-up Kontact
[17:08] <BluesKaj> ken____, yeah , that's known bug , you can turn of notifications in kmenu>computer>system settings>application&system notifications
[17:08] <BluesKaj> of=off
[17:08] <ken____> thx again
[17:09] <ken____> can I safely uninstall kontact?
[17:09] <ken____> I use gmail
[17:09] <BluesKaj> ken____, if you aren't using kamil or kontact , you can always remove them as well
[17:10] <charly___> hello do you like ubuntu 11.10 and gnome 3?
[17:10] <BluesKaj> yes , sudo apt-get remove kmail kontact , that will remove both , ken____
[17:11] <BluesKaj> ken____, in the command line apt-get basically looks in the repositories or your pc for the package name and retrieves the proper application . either to install or remove /uninstall
[17:12] <kernelpanic> BluesKaj: when, every time i reboot?
[17:12] <ken____> BluesKaj: I have learned a lot today. looking forward to truely understanding kubuntu/linux
[17:13] <BluesKaj> ken____, welcome to kubuntu/Linux ...it's arewarding experience IMO :)
[17:14] <ken____> BluesKaj: and a frustrating one
[17:14] <ken____> :)
[17:15] <BluesKaj> kernelpanic, not sure , i haven't used the networkamanger in a few yrs ...using ethernet I rely on my /etc/network/interfaces to do the connectivity
[17:16] <kernelpanic> BluesKaj: ah... well this is on a notebook, and I get a mood like a dictator whenever it comes back up from standby.
[17:17] <BluesKaj> ken____, well pcs are frustratring in general , but Linux is more configurable which gives a helluva a lot more options, , therefore more fun to use
[17:19] <BluesKaj> ken____, I'm an old windows guy too , but I'm totally sold on Linux now.
[17:19] <ken____> BluesKaj: agreed!. when I typed in the command you gave me earlier to remove kmail, it also wants to remove a lot more stuff like: plasma-wallpapers, etc
[17:19] <BluesKaj> uhoh , I didn't have that come up
[17:20] <BarkingFish> 0o° - this is weird.  I was just installing some software, and apper's gone -11 on me. No idea why, it's never happened before.
[17:21] <ken____> Removing kde-full ...
[17:21] <ken____> Removing kde-standard ...
[17:21] <ken____> Removing kdepim ...
[17:21] <ken____> Removing kmail ...
[17:21] <ken____> Removing kontact ...
[17:21] <ken____> Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme ...
[17:21] <ken____> Processing triggers for libc-bin ...
[17:21] <ken____> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[17:21] <BarkingFish> !flood | ken____
[17:21] <ken____> sorry
[17:21] <BluesKaj> ken____, did you migrate from ubuntu/gnome by any chance?
[17:22] <ken____> no
[17:23] <BluesKaj> ok. ken you may want this package , kubuntu-restricted-extras for media
[17:23] <ken____> BluesKaj: I partitioned out the home directory so I wouldn't lose my data when I crash the OS
[17:23] <ken____> BluesKaj: I did get that
[17:24] <BluesKaj> ken____, so you have / ,and /home partitions ..good move
[17:25] <ken____> BluesKaj: crashing the OS is something I've done a lot of trying to get my video card to work. but then 11.10 came along and fixed that
[17:25] <ken____> yes
[17:25] <BluesKaj> did you install the recommended drivers ?
[17:26] <ken____> BluesKaj: everything I did failed miserably and I could not even boot into failsafe mode
[17:28] <BluesKaj> ken____, look in kmenu>apps>system>additional drivers ...onboard ati graphics modules probly won't be listed (installed by default), but most nvidia drivers will be.
[17:30] <ken____> BluesKaj: for nVidia GeForce 9300 it recommended 270.x.x was supported and anything I tried (including additional drivers ) failed. it would indicate that it was in use but not activated
[17:31] <ken____> or activated but not in use
[17:32] <BluesKaj> did you activate ?...the nvidia 9300 should be using the 280 or 285 driver
[17:32] <ken____> 285 you're correct
[17:33] <ken____> tried many times and did not know how to use this forum... so I did a fresh install with 11.10 and fixed the problem
[17:33] <BluesKaj> ken____, you have desktop effects enabled etc in system settings ?
[17:35] <ken____> BluesKaj, they would work but very choppy, everything was slow and as many times as I fresh installed 10.10 could never get it to work
[17:37] <BluesKaj> ken____, what about videos that put a load on the graphics card/cpu like games or hi def movies ?
[17:37] <ken____> BluesKaj, so I lived with it until a couple weeks ago when 11.10 came out
[17:37] <ken____> BluesKaj, choppy, slow FPS
[17:38] <ken____> BluesKaj, voice out of sync and choppy
[17:38] <BluesKaj> ken____, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:39] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | ken____
[17:41] <BluesKaj> well , i have some more Christamas lights setup , so I'll be gone for an hr or so
[17:41] <BluesKaj> BBL, stuff to do
[17:42] <ken____> BluesKaj, The video is working well now
[17:42] <ken____> ok - enjoy
[17:53] <lovre> hi all. Im trying to make an application, but w/o "make install", i just want to run it. Where can i find the binary? There are a lot of files generated, but i dont see the binaryy
[17:53] <new2net> I am running a program that seems to pwn xserver for some reason (lets not jump the gun and blame unity)  and it locks everything up. Is there any way (when I drop down to a tty with shift+ctrl+f1) to restart xserver?
[17:54] <lovre> ok, never mind i find the binary :)
[18:14] <extio> hello room.  i have no idea of how to use linux, yet would like to install it on a slow laptop
[18:14] <extio> so ubuntu seemed like a good choice
[18:14] <extio> anyways i wanted a slightly faster distro
[18:14] <extio> any suggestions?
[18:14] <extio> should i kubuntu and xubuntu are the two im currently comparing, but its hard to tell a difference
[18:15] <sluckxz> lubuntu is supposed to be pretty lite
[18:15] <sluckxz> never tried it my self though.
[18:16] <extio> with a slow computer, i guess i will give it a try
[18:18] <sluckxz> there are some meta packages that might help lighten up the install you have already
[18:24] <lovre> hi all. The application KGmailNotifier crashes and blocks when trying to close it. It gives the following error: glibc detected - corrupted double-linked list.... What is this, and can it be fix?
[18:27] <ken____> sluckxz, there is an alternative for older computers xubuntu then switch to the XLDE desktop at login
[18:30] <sluckxz> cheers ken____
[18:31] <ken____> sluckxz that would be Xfce not XLDE
[18:32] <sluckxz> extio was asking about a lite - er  version.  im gonna stick with kde personally.
[18:32] <rork> extio: lubuntu is the lightest but harder to configure, if you're new I'd suggest Xubuntu, For older machines I won't recommend Kubuntu as it's integration, settings and visuals require quite some resources (although it has a "light" option
[18:33] <rork> extio: it also depends on how you define "slow laptop"
[18:49] <extio> its slow because it has windows now, and it has few things installed, yet if i click on something it takes a while to load, and its as likely a virus for all i know but its an old laptop, so a new install of linux is easier than fixing it
[18:50] <extio> anyways in case its just a really slow processor, i wanted something that wasnt graphically heavy and without too much system use in general
[18:51] <extio> but i am new, so easier is better.
[18:59] <TImewarper>  how can i blacklist a user sshd (stop that user from using ssh)?
[18:59] <Peace-> TImewarper: groups?
[18:59] <TImewarper> what group is that
[19:00] <DarthFrog> TImewarper: A user with a proper account on your system or a remote user trying to get into your system?
[19:00] <Peace-> !groups
[19:07] <argentum> привет, кто сталкивался с 2мя видеокартами на ноутбуке?
[19:07] <Pici> !ru
[19:07] <argentum> sorry...
[19:23] <Timewarper> i need to run xhost +localhost everytime i reboot, how can i make this command permanent?
[19:23] <Peace-> Timewarper: in autostart
[19:23] <DarthFrog> Timewarper: Put a shell script in ~/.kde/Autostart
[19:23] <Timewarper> Peace-, i there a file i can edit in ~ ?
[19:24] <Timewarper> i dont want to use kde's autostart scripts
[19:24] <Timewarper> any other way?
[19:24] <Peace-> Timewarper: you don't use kde's autostart scripts
[19:24] <Peace-> you create a new one script
[19:24] <Peace-> that is
[19:24] <Peace-> scripts that are on autostartfolder are loaded
[19:24] <Peace-> automatically
[19:25] <Timewarper> Peace-, can i write that command somewhere to be run?
[19:25] <Timewarper> xhost +localhost?
[19:25] <Timewarper> in some file
[19:25] <DarthFrog> Timewarper: We just told you how to do exactly that.
[19:26] <Peace-> Timewarper:  echo '!#/bin/bash' > ~/.kde/Autostart
[19:26] <Peace-> Timewarper:  echo "xhost +localhost" >> ~/.kde/Autostart
[19:26] <Timewarper> Peace-, is autostart a file or folder?
[19:26] <Peace-> oh sory
[19:26] <DarthFrog> Peace-:  Um, you want to give it a file name. :-)
[19:27] <Peace-> Timewarper:  echo "xhost +localhost" >> ~/.kde/Autostart/scripton
[19:27] <Peace-> Timewarper: correct with the name
[19:27] <Peace-> btw
[19:27] <Timewarper> Peace-, do i need to chmod iit?
[19:27] <Peace-> Timewarper: ys
[19:27] <Timewarper> chmod +a +x
[19:27] <Peace-> chmox +x
[19:27] <Peace-> omg
[19:27]  * Peace- why there is not autocomplete bash here on irc?
[19:28] <DarthFrog> Peace-: Is the blood level in your caffeine system a bit too high?  :-)
[19:28] <Timewarper> lol
[19:28] <Peace-> xD
[19:28] <Timewarper> there may be a script to autocomplete bash in irc
[19:30] <Timewarper> btw
[19:30] <Timewarper> what does !#/bin/bash do in scripts?
[19:30] <Timewarper> tell them to use bash?
[19:30] <Peace-> yes
[19:31] <Timewarper> i think i have seen scripts with just /bin/bash at the strt
[19:31] <Timewarper> without !#
[19:31] <DarthFrog> Timewarper: Then they're not shell scripts.
[19:31] <sluckxz> anybody get freenx working on 11.10?
[19:31] <DarthFrog> the shebang is necessary.  Unless you pass the file name onto bash, viz:  bash <filename>
[19:33] <Timewarper> Peace-, also it is #! not the other way arround
[19:33] <DarthFrog> Timewarper: The shebang line is necessary to identify the correct command processor.  It might not be /bin/bash.   It could be, eg. /bin/perl for a perl script, /bin/python for a python script or /bin/csh for a C shell script.
[19:33] <Peace-> Timewarper: you right :)
[19:33] <Peace-> i ma  a bit tired
[19:34] <Timewarper> DarthFrog, do we name bash scripts .sh?
[19:34] <Timewarper> in general
[19:34] <DarthFrog> Timewarper:  File extentions are meanginless in Unix.
[19:34] <Timewarper> DarthFrog, i know
[19:34] <Timewarper> i try to remember the norm
[19:34] <DarthFrog> Naming it .sh is for your convenience only, means nothing to the shell.
[19:35] <Peace-> +1
[19:35] <DarthFrog> Many scripts do not have any extentions at all.
[19:35] <Timewarper> ok then
[19:35] <Timewarper> k thx bye
[20:17] <sluckxz> well NOMACHINEs 4 beta nxserver is simple to install and works great.  really hope an open nx server gets up to speed but until then at least it works.
[20:18] <PhilRod_> sluckxz: does it still require root to install?
[20:18] <sluckxz> yea
[20:18] <hume> hi...I've just recently switched to kubuntu from ubuntu (11.10) and like it. I'm trying to understand and make use of activities. Now: sometimes when I switch activities, a window appears that wants to start some programs. Can I cutomize this feature for a new activity? Is it a widget or....?
[20:19] <PhilRod_> sluckxz: ah, pity. I would like to get a faster remote X thing on some machines where I don't have root
[20:20] <sluckxz> do you have any solution without being root?
[20:24] <RoadsterGT> I am running firefox as another user (sudo -u john -H firefox) but i have no sound. It appears it cant connect to alsa. How can i fix that?
[20:28] <sluckxz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1744359
[20:28] <sluckxz> did you see that RoadsterGT
[20:31] <RoadsterGT> sluckxz, doesnt say much
[20:34] <sluckxz> So I tried: pkill pulse and restarted Chrome as different user. Now I get sound ! But of course now there is no more sound as the user I currently am logged in with
[20:34] <sluckxz> unless I restart the pulseaudio-daemon
[20:35] <RoadsterGT> i dont use pulse
[20:35] <RoadsterGT> and besides you cant kill the daemon each time you want to open firefox
[20:37] <RoadsterGT> the answer
[20:37] <RoadsterGT> http://alsa.opensrc.org/Dmix#1._Install_aoss.2C_alsaplayer.2C_mpg321
[20:39] <sluckxz> cool
[20:55] <akuarius> wtf
[20:55] <akuarius> no one talk?
[20:55] <akuarius> wtf is happening here?
[20:55] <Resistance> lag time ;P
[20:56] <akuarius> hum i see
[20:56] <Resistance> also this is the support channel not the social channel
[20:56] <Resistance> so...
[20:56] <Resistance> akuarius, do you need help with something?
[20:56] <akuarius> yes i need
[20:57] <akuarius> im trying to robe a bank with ubuntu, can u tell me what i have to do?
[20:57] <akuarius> im a poor guy and i nedd funds to bye a new car
[20:58] <Resistance> yeah i can tell you what to do
[20:58] <Resistance> read the code of conduct and channel rules
[20:58] <akuarius> ty :)
[20:58] <Resistance> before asking about illegal crap
[20:58] <Resistance> !illegal
[20:58] <akuarius> hum ok sorry i dont knew it that
[20:58] <akuarius> ok no problem
[20:59] <akuarius> ty ubottu
[20:59] <akuarius> and can u tell me whats the best free shooter game to ubuntu? to play online?
[21:00] <akuarius> im new ubuntu user :)
[21:01] <akuarius> so will u help me?
[21:02] <akuarius> omg
[21:02] <Resistance> unfortunately i dont play games on ubuntu ;P
[21:03] <akuarius> what u do on ubuntu can i know?
[21:03] <Resistance> nope i cannot divulge that information ;P
[21:03] <akuarius> i saw a movie on ubuntu and its to slow frames omg
[21:03]  * Resistance does [SECRET CODING WORK] for [UNDISCLOSED ENTITY]
[21:04] <akuarius> how can i fix the image to see movies with no lagg?
[21:04] <akuarius> lol
[21:04] <akuarius> ahaha
[21:04] <akuarius> i see u r comic
[21:04] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu  | akuarius
[21:05] <akuarius> are u admin?
[21:05] <BluesKaj> akuarius, also install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:05] <Pici> akuarius: Our channel guidelines apply to this channel as well.  This channel is for support, not fooling around.
[21:05] <BluesKaj> !u | akuarius
[21:06] <akuarius> lol
[21:06] <akuarius> ok
[21:06] <akuarius> ty
[21:06] <BluesKaj> no lols either :)
[21:07] <akuarius> u are good
[21:08] <BluesKaj> akuarius, your last warning , don't puh it
[21:08] <BluesKaj> push
[21:09] <akuarius> ok so go fuck uerself and kiss my 21 letter of modern latin alphabet cock and kiss my ass to bye
[21:09] <Resistance> !language
[21:09] <Resistance> !ops
[21:09] <Resistance> oops pici ninja'd
[21:09] <Resistance> :P
[21:10] <BluesKaj> Resistance, no point , don't react
[21:17] <F1rebird^937q^> Ciao a tutti :P
[21:17] <Pici> !it | F1rebird^937q^
[21:44] <btchero1> I have a problem and I need some help figuring out the search terms to google it.  The thing in the top right you click has quit showing all the apps running when clicked/now just a drop down menu.  What should i be searching for
[21:48] <BluesKaj> btchero1, are you on ubuntu/gnome or kubuntu/kde?
[22:07] <YawningAngel> Can anyone tell me how best to start troubleshooting a slow/unreliable network interface?
[22:08] <BluesKaj> YawningAngel, ethernet or wifi ?
[22:09] <YawningAngel> Ethernet
[22:09] <BluesKaj> router-modem or just modem ?
[22:09] <YawningAngel> I have a combo router/modem
[22:09] <YawningAngel> My network interface has been fine under other linuxes
[22:09] <YawningAngel> So I'm suspecting it's a software config issue somewhere
[22:09] <YawningAngel> But I have no idea where to start looking
[22:11] <BluesKaj> YawningAngel,  open a terminal and run this command , sudo dhclient eth0
[22:12] <YawningAngel> Hold up, I'll have to reboot, went onto a system with a working eth interface :p
[22:12] <YawningAngel> brb
[22:16] <YawningAngel> Right
[22:17] <YawningAngel> I get the output "RTNETLINK answers: File exists"
[22:25] <BluesKaj> YawningAngel, i recommend this setup for ppl with network manager problems on kubuntu. http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[22:25] <YawningAngel> Thanks very much, I'll take a look
[22:26] <BluesKaj> then you can run without the network manager interference layer , as I call it
[22:26] <YawningAngel> Makes sense, I'll set it up as you suggest
[22:27] <YawningAngel> Thank you very much
[22:27] <BluesKaj> YawningAngel, good luck, sorry , but i have to leave
[22:29] <sluckxz> anybody loving ubuntu one using kde?
[22:53] <sercan> ubuntu da hdd bağlama nasıl yapılıyor bilen varmı
[23:05] <ashley_> hi, can someone please pm me... im still a bit of a newb i guess you could say, and im having difficulty with my firefox. If I get a PM i will explain further
[23:06] <Phoenixz> I have my kubuntu laptop at work and some bright light decided to make the wifi SSID hidden "for more security" (yes, I know, dont even bother, barking up the wrong tree there) and now I have  the problem that my knetwork manager does not want to connect / seems unable to connect to that hidden SSID.. Help?
[23:29] <clashingwave> Hello all, I'm trying to get two finger tap to work for my touchpad, but I can seem to get it to work, I have tried using the options in the system settings, but those don't seem to take  effect. can anyone help me with this please?
[23:30] <amason> clashingwave: what kind of touchpad do you have ?
[23:31] <clashingwave> It seems to be a standered touchpad on most laptops
[23:32] <amason> which driver is it using ?
[23:34] <clashingwave> The hardware information givin in the Touchpad settings is SynPS/2 Synaptics
[23:34] <clashingwave> Im not sure as to what driver its using
[23:34] <tharkun> People how can i switch between workspaces on kde and how can i add more?
[23:37] <orp> amy one use opendns?
[23:37] <amason> tharkun: you can choose in the preferences
[23:37] <amason> tharkun: and if you right click on the pager
[23:37] <amason> you can add more
[23:37] <amason> orp: not atm but I was previously
[23:37] <tharkun> amason: where is the pager?
[23:38] <tharkun> and there seems to be no option under preferences :(
[23:41] <clashingwave> tharkun: In the system settings click on the icon "Workspace Behavior"  you will see virtual desktops and in there  you can add more
[23:47] <orp> did you lik134e it
[23:47] <orp> did you like that ?
[23:48] <orp> i don' t see any diffrence
[23:51] <orp> i still don't know the difrence betwin chrome and chromium
[23:52] <orp> any one know it ?
[23:52] <sercan> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:
[23:52] <sercan> [mntent]: line 1 in /etc/fstab is bad
[23:52] <sercan> [mntent]: line 2 in /etc/fstab is bad
[23:52] <sercan> [mntent]: line 10 in /etc/fstab is bad
[23:52] <sercan> mount: can't find /dev/sdb2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab