[01:11] <robert_ancell> is there a way to email a mailing list when a release is made in a launchpad project?
[01:12] <poolie> robert_ancell, other than writing a mail yourself? :)
[01:12] <poolie> no
[01:12] <poolie> not that i know of
[01:12] <robert_ancell> poolie, :(
[01:12] <poolie> could be worth having a bug
[01:12] <robert_ancell> I'll open one
[01:12] <poolie> there is a big discussion about better notifications at the moment
[01:13] <robert_ancell> poolie, distributors want it, and I keep forgetting to email the list
[01:16] <robert_ancell> poolie, bug 897960
[01:17] <poolie> thanks
[08:54] <mrevell> Guten Morgen
[09:05] <niak> Hi, I'm trying to create a Test Project. It seems that the servers is getting a code update. Does someone know when this update ends ?
[09:12] <bigjools> niak: it should be done inside an hour
[09:15] <niak> ok thanks =)
[09:41] <wgrant> bigjools, niak: staging's a bit broken at the moment. You might be better off using qastaging.launchpad.net instead.
[09:42] <niak> ok :o
[10:42] <pfarrell> Hi
[10:42] <pfarrell> I'm confused by launchpad's bug interface
[10:43] <pfarrell> I want to see the open bugs for the fluidity project, so I go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/fluidity/, and click on "Open bugs" on the right-hand side
[10:43] <pfarrell> but it still lists all of the bugs with status "Fix Committed", which in my mind are not open
[10:44] <pfarrell> how do I list only the open bugs?
[10:45] <nigelb> Launchpad counts Fix Comitted as open, if you click Advanced Search, you can customize the result to not have fix comitted.
[10:48] <bigjools> Fix Committed is a terrible bug status
[10:52] <joeye01> Fail to Add a download file to my project. The file is 130m in size. Browser returns following message after 30 minutes of trying:
[10:52] <joeye01> Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.
[10:53] <jml> Hey
[10:53] <jml> I want to make someone an admin of ~twisted-dev
[10:53] <jml> but I can't, even though I myself am an admin
[10:54] <jml> or rather, I can't seem to find the option to do it
[10:54] <jml> how can I change a member of that team to be an administrator?
[10:55] <soren> You need to be the owner, don't you?
[10:55] <wgrant> Right, only the owner can promote members to admins.
[10:55] <jml> Ah, and "Owner" is not listed as a separate status on the members page
[10:55] <jml> nice
[10:56] <wgrant> Right. They're not necessarily a member.
[10:56] <jml> nor indeed are they mentioned
[10:56] <jml> cool.
[10:56] <wgrant> No. They're only on +index.
[10:56] <jml> that solves my immediate problem. thanks.
[10:59] <nigelb> bigjools: There are times when I wished Launchpad let me customize bug statuses :)
[11:00] <bigjools> there's good reasons to not do that :)
[11:01] <wgrant> bigjools: eg?
[11:03] <bigjools> it makes collaboration harder
[11:04] <wgrant> Right, but using Launchpad's statuses can make it harder to manage your project.
[11:04] <wgrant> and there's inexplicable stuff like Opinion :/
[11:05] <pfarrell> so what does launchpad think of as "not open"? only fix released?
[11:06] <wgrant> pfarrell: Fix Released, Invalid, Won't Fix and Opinion are the closed statuses.
[11:06] <wgrant> They're hidden from searches by default.
[11:06] <pfarrell> right
[11:06] <pfarrell> I'd like to submit my opinion that "Fix Committed" being "Open" is a bit counterintuitive :-)
[11:06] <wgrant> Well.
[11:07] <wgrant> A bugfix that isn't released is still relevant to users, because it may affect them. And it's relevant to developers, because they might want to release it :)
[11:07] <wgrant> But it's easy to exclude it from a search if you want to.
[11:07] <wgrant> Or your project could just not use it.
[11:09] <pfarrell> I accept all of these statements, but I don't think they counter my point :-)
[11:09] <wgrant> Default bug listings show all the bugs that are in play right now.
[11:09] <wgrant> All the bugs that aren't in a final state.
[11:10] <wgrant> If a project is using Fix Committed, any bugs in that state are not finalised.
[11:11] <pfarrell> well, thank you for explaining it
[11:11] <wgrant> They're not dissimilar from In Progress.
[11:11] <wgrant> As a developer looking for something to take, I'm not interested in In Progress or Fix Committed bugs.
[11:11] <nigelb> As an admin for projects which use Fix Committed, I actually want it counted as Open.
[11:11] <nigelb> ...
[11:11] <nigelb> the timing of that was awesome :)
[11:12] <wgrant> As a release manager, I want to see In Progress and Fix Committed to see how my project's doing.
[11:12] <wgrant> As a user, I want to see all bugs without a fix released, because some of them affect me.
[11:14] <wgrant> Why do you want to specifically exclude Fix Committed bugs?
[11:15] <pfarrell> you hit the nail on the head, I think. I am a developer looking for bugs to fix, rather than a user or release manager.
[11:15] <wgrant> In that case you may want to filter to Triaged, or possibly New, Incomplete, Confirmed as well.
[11:16] <wgrant> It's difficult or impossible to make the defaults suit everyone, unfortunately :/
[11:16] <wgrant> And different people want different default filters at different times :(
[11:19] <pfarrell> true
[11:19] <pfarrell> maybe it would be good to have "Developer's view", "User's view", and "Release manager's view" on the right-hand side, as those would be the three common cases?
[11:21] <wgrant> That might be handy. But some projects use statuses in different ways, just to confuse things.
[17:21] <l3on> allenap, ping
[17:21] <allenap> l3on: Hi there.
[17:21] <allenap> What's up?
[17:22] <l3on> allenap, arr... nothing I'll reply directly in the bug ... sorry :P
[17:24] <allenap> l3on: Okay :)
[18:55] <yofel> can someone please abort the pending recipe builds from 2011-10-26 on https://code.launchpad.net/~neon/+recipe/project-neon-oxygen-gtk3 and https://code.launchpad.net/~neon/+recipe/project-neon-kgeography ? They seem stuck.
[19:00] <byb> Hi all, I'm new here
[19:02] <Resistance> unreg_toto, i'd stop changing your nick if i were you
[19:02] <Resistance> just sayin
[19:02] <Resistance> ;P
[19:04] <unreg_toto> Hi boys, I was advised by one of you to come here to ask to edit/delete a bug post I made in the lauchpad web site
[19:07] <unreg_toto> because the post is noise if I understand well, and above all (for me) I forgot to remove a private info in it. Is it possible an admin to edit or remove the post comment?
[19:17] <unreg_toto> Sorry Resistance, I'm not very easy in irc
[19:39] <unreg_toto> there no admin here ?
[19:40] <tumbleweed> !patience | unreg_toto
[19:40] <tumbleweed> err not quite appropriate here
[19:40] <tumbleweed> unreg_toto: one sometimes has to wait a bit
[19:41] <tumbleweed> unreg_toto: if there's something you want hidden in the bug, mark the whole bug as being private until someone can delete that comment
[19:46] <unreg_toto> Thanks tumbleweed , I didn't know I could do that as it is not my own bug. Also as the comment is mine and the error in it too , I would not feel polite to change the whole to private. I read bugs about a feature in lauchpad to edit posts, but it seems postponed forever or not wanted at all. I hope launchpad is not the example Facebook followed to keep private data forever ;-)
[19:46] <Resistance> oh well usually you cant if its not your own bug, iirc.
[19:49] <unreg_toto> I thought this way without even give a try, why I'm here now ;)
[20:34] <megaribi> Hello
[20:35] <megaribi> Problem with translation statistics is still there
[21:29] <lifeless> unreg_toto: hi, please open a ticket on answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[21:29] <lifeless> unreg_toto: specifying the comment in question