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nk8215Hello everyone :)00:33
nk8215I have a pretty serious Ubuntu booting problem00:34
nk8215I'll post here the conversation initiated - mistakenly - in the ...team channel over there00:37
nk8215nk8215 01:18:52 AM00:37
nk8215Hello everybody00:37
nk8215I do believe that somebody of you could give me advice...00:37
nk821501:20:02 AM00:37
nk8215On my netbook, there are 2 copies of GRUB and either of them would load...00:37
nk821501:21:04 AM00:37
nk8215*neither00:37
nk821501:22:04 AM00:37
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nk8215MrChrisDruif 01:24:29 AM00:37
nk8215nk8215; our support channel is #ubuntu-beginners , you knew that? Secondly you are booting into Ubuntu? So it "skips" grub it seems?00:38
nk8215JackyAlcine has disconnected (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)00:38
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nk8215nk8215 01:28:55 AM00:38
nk8215MrChrisDruif: oh, sorry, I didn't know that, there were both channels marked as Ubuntu Beginners Team in the channel list...00:38
nk8215ad skipping GRUB: no, it's even worse - GRUB won't load at all, I'm getting the "reboot and select proper boot device" message instead, even when I set the boot flag to my boot partition.00:38
nk8215MrChrisDruif 01:29:51 AM00:38
nk8215Well, in the topic of this channel you can see it00:38
nk8215MH0 - MrChrisDruif -00:38
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nk8215nk8215 01:31:37 AM00:38
nk8215MrChrisDruif: Oh, I see now...OK, I'll copy my part of this conversation in the other channel in order not to spam this one...00:38
nk8215:o I see that my clock is messed up...sorry :)00:39
MrChrisDruifnk8215; just one heads up: I think most supporters are CET based or GMT, which means it's about 1:39 or 0:39 respectively over there ;-)00:39
nk8215MrChrisDruif: um, that's the point...my REAL local time is 1:41 AM now, whereas the toolbar clock shows 0:41...dunno why, all what happened was that my ethernet cable slipped a bit out of the socket, and after reconnecting the clock has gone 1 hour back...00:42
nk8215...and until then it had shown my real local time...00:45
MrChrisDruifWhat I meant to say it that it IS possible that they will not respond at this moment, due to them being in bed (like the two of us should)00:50
MrChrisDruifUnit193; you know anything about grub?00:50
MrChrisDruif;grub00:53
JackyAlcine!grub00:53
ubot2GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)00:53
nk8215MrChrisDruif: OK, OK, you're right, I should've tried it a bit earlier...00:54
MrChrisDruifnk8215; try reading this link for help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling_GRUB200:54
nk8215thanks :)01:15
nk8215gn to all :)01:15
CrazyThinkerCan I remove text from desktop icons? I set the deskop_font size to 0 using gconf-editor03:51
CrazyThinkerbut its still showing the text03:52
holsteinCrazyThinker: in unity?03:53
CrazyThinkeryeah, I'm running unity but I thought the desktop is gnome03:53
holsteinim not too sure how to do that in unity, and i havent tried in gnome03:55
holsteinyou did something like this http://askubuntu.com/questions/23570/how-can-i-hide-the-text-under-the-desktop-icons ?03:55
holstein^^ i would expect that to work with gnome03:56
escottholstein, that in principle should still work. you might need to use dconf-editor instead03:58
holsteinCrazyThinker: ^03:58
CrazyThinkerholstein, I followed instructions at the exact same link to do this and it didn't work04:04
* CrazyThinker is trying again with dconf-editor04:04
holsteinCrazyThinker: right, you are using unity, not gnome04:04
CrazyThinkerescott, where in dconf-editor?04:07
escottCrazyThinker, dcont-tools (this is 11.10 only IIRC)04:08
CrazyThinkerI can't run dcont-tools => Bash can't find the command04:10
CrazyThinkerI can get dconf-editor04:10
escott!info dconf-tools | CrazyThinker04:11
escottyou have to install it first04:11
CrazyThinkerWhen I use apt-get install dconf-tools, it says dconf-tools is already installed04:13
CrazyThinkerbut if I type dconf-tools in bash, it tells me it can't find that command04:13
escottCrazyThinker, sudo apt-get install dconf-tools04:14
CrazyThinkerI ran that as root04:14
escottand the command is dconf-editor04:14
CrazyThinkerlol04:15
CrazyThinkerWhere in that can I change the desktop icon details?04:15
escottits the same layout as gconf, just a different backend and database04:16
escottanything you know about gconf can be applied to dconf04:16
CrazyThinkerescott, I don't see a nautilus in dconf-editor04:17
CrazyThinkerin the same >apps tree04:17
escottyou may need to create it04:18
escotti think gconf-editor shows the schema and defaults, whereas dconf may only show the set values04:18
CrazyThinkeroh okay04:25
CrazyThinkerescott, how can I add an app04:31
escottCrazyThinker, maybe in the gtk3 switch they moved it04:32
CrazyThinkeroh04:32
escotttry org.gnome.nautilus04:32
CrazyThinkerfound it!04:33
CrazyThinkerChanged the font and its gone!!04:33
* CrazyThinker awards 200 reputation points to escott 04:34
escottglad it worked for you. you'll have to keep in mind that any other gconf-editor tweaks should still work, but now with dconf-editor and gsettings, and might be in a somewhat different location04:35
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truepurpleI am having DNS problems, could this at all be the fault of ubuntu? Or would that only be either caused by my modem, or my ISP?06:10
nk8215Morning :) Oh no, why am I listed twice in the list of persons in this channel? O.O09:54
coalwaterare u ?09:55
bioterrornope, you are not09:55
nk8215Yeah09:55
nk8215Oh, I see now - my "second nick" is my alternative one, my IRC client or the server cannot somehow print the underscore at its end :)09:59
nk8215It prints a space instead09:59
nk8215Which is not visible in the list...10:01
coalwateryou probably tried to login from 2 places, or somehow the session disconnected and then it tried to login again but it found ur nick taken then it appended an '_' to get in, after some time the server realizes that one of the nicks isn't responding to pings or something so it disconnects it10:02
coalwateryou could force it to happen by msg'ing nickserv, /msg nickserv ghost 'nick' 'password', no qoutes and u probably dont want to type it in a channel just in case u missed a character so it doesnt post ur pw over here10:05
coalwaterbut u dont really need it right now, im just telling you cause it might be helpful some other time10:05
nk8215Anyway, let's head over to my problem :) I've bought a brand new external HDD and wanted to install Ubuntu onto it. Due to the fact that I'll be using it mostly with my Asus Eee PC 1015 netbook, I chose Oneiric Ocelot. The installation had gone normally, until GRUB was supposed to be installed - the installation program refused to do that. When I, however, re-booted (from my USB flash drive), I found two complete GRUBs in all two locations I tried be10:09
nk8215The main problem is that none of them would load - all I become when booting from the USB HDD is that well-known BIOS error message about selecting proper boot device...10:13
nk8215could it somehow be connected with EFI? (There is Win7 pre-installed on the netbook, as well as a recovery partition)10:21
nk8215For the EFI, I have seen something about eLILO, where e is supposed to stand for EFI...What do you think, would such a bootloader replacement make sense in my case?10:29
nk8215okay, bye for now :)10:33
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