[00:33] <nk8215> Hello everyone :)
[00:34] <nk8215> I have a pretty serious Ubuntu booting problem
[00:37] <nk8215> I'll post here the conversation initiated - mistakenly - in the ...team channel over there
[00:37] <nk8215> nk8215 01:18:52 AM
[00:37] <nk8215> Hello everybody
[00:37] <nk8215> I do believe that somebody of you could give me advice...
[00:37] <nk8215> 01:20:02 AM
[00:37] <nk8215> On my netbook, there are 2 copies of GRUB and either of them would load...
[00:37] <nk8215> 01:21:04 AM
[00:37] <nk8215> *neither
[00:37] <nk8215> 01:22:04 AM
[00:37] <nk8215>  
[00:37] <nk8215> MrChrisDruif 01:24:29 AM
[00:38] <nk8215> nk8215; our support channel is #ubuntu-beginners , you knew that? Secondly you are booting into Ubuntu? So it "skips" grub it seems?	
[00:38] <nk8215> JackyAlcine has disconnected (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
[00:38] <nk8215> 01:25
[00:38] <nk8215> nk8215 01:28:55 AM
[00:38] <nk8215> MrChrisDruif: oh, sorry, I didn't know that, there were both channels marked as Ubuntu Beginners Team in the channel list...
[00:38] <nk8215> ad skipping GRUB: no, it's even worse - GRUB won't load at all, I'm getting the "reboot and select proper boot device" message instead, even when I set the boot flag to my boot partition.	
[00:38] <nk8215> MrChrisDruif 01:29:51 AM
[00:38] <nk8215> Well, in the topic of this channel you can see it	
[00:38] <nk8215> MH0 - MrChrisDruif -
[00:38] <nk8215> 01:30
[00:38] <nk8215> nk8215 01:31:37 AM
[00:38] <nk8215> MrChrisDruif: Oh, I see now...OK, I'll copy my part of this conversation in the other channel in order not to spam this one...	
[00:39] <nk8215> :o I see that my clock is messed up...sorry :)
[00:39] <MrChrisDruif> nk8215; just one heads up: I think most supporters are CET based or GMT, which means it's about 1:39 or 0:39 respectively over there ;-)
[00:42] <nk8215> MrChrisDruif: um, that's the point...my REAL local time is 1:41 AM now, whereas the toolbar clock shows 0:41...dunno why, all what happened was that my ethernet cable slipped a bit out of the socket, and after reconnecting the clock has gone 1 hour back...
[00:45] <nk8215> ...and until then it had shown my real local time...
[00:50] <MrChrisDruif> What I meant to say it that it IS possible that they will not respond at this moment, due to them being in bed (like the two of us should)
[00:50] <MrChrisDruif> Unit193; you know anything about grub?
[00:53] <MrChrisDruif> ;grub
[00:53] <JackyAlcine> !grub
[00:53] <ubot2> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[00:54] <nk8215> MrChrisDruif: OK, OK, you're right, I should've tried it a bit earlier...
[00:54] <MrChrisDruif> nk8215; try reading this link for help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling_GRUB2
[01:15] <nk8215> thanks :)
[01:15] <nk8215> gn to all :)
[03:51] <CrazyThinker> Can I remove text from desktop icons? I set the deskop_font size to 0 using gconf-editor
[03:52] <CrazyThinker> but its still showing the text
[03:53] <holstein> CrazyThinker: in unity?
[03:53] <CrazyThinker> yeah, I'm running unity but I thought the desktop is gnome
[03:55] <holstein> im not too sure how to do that in unity, and i havent tried in gnome
[03:55] <holstein> you did something like this http://askubuntu.com/questions/23570/how-can-i-hide-the-text-under-the-desktop-icons ?
[03:56] <holstein> ^^ i would expect that to work with gnome
[03:58] <escott> holstein, that in principle should still work. you might need to use dconf-editor instead
[03:58] <holstein> CrazyThinker: ^
[04:04] <CrazyThinker> holstein, I followed instructions at the exact same link to do this and it didn't work
[04:04]  * CrazyThinker is trying again with dconf-editor
[04:04] <holstein> CrazyThinker: right, you are using unity, not gnome
[04:07] <CrazyThinker> escott, where in dconf-editor?
[04:08] <escott> CrazyThinker, dcont-tools (this is 11.10 only IIRC)
[04:10] <CrazyThinker> I can't run dcont-tools => Bash can't find the command
[04:10] <CrazyThinker> I can get dconf-editor
[04:11] <escott> !info dconf-tools | CrazyThinker
[04:11] <escott> you have to install it first
[04:13] <CrazyThinker> When I use apt-get install dconf-tools, it says dconf-tools is already installed
[04:13] <CrazyThinker> but if I type dconf-tools in bash, it tells me it can't find that command
[04:14] <escott> CrazyThinker, sudo apt-get install dconf-tools
[04:14] <CrazyThinker> I ran that as root
[04:14] <escott> and the command is dconf-editor
[04:15] <CrazyThinker> lol
[04:15] <CrazyThinker> Where in that can I change the desktop icon details?
[04:16] <escott> its the same layout as gconf, just a different backend and database
[04:16] <escott> anything you know about gconf can be applied to dconf
[04:17] <CrazyThinker> escott, I don't see a nautilus in dconf-editor
[04:17] <CrazyThinker> in the same >apps tree
[04:18] <escott> you may need to create it
[04:18] <escott> i think gconf-editor shows the schema and defaults, whereas dconf may only show the set values
[04:25] <CrazyThinker> oh okay
[04:31] <CrazyThinker> escott, how can I add an app
[04:32] <escott> CrazyThinker, maybe in the gtk3 switch they moved it
[04:32] <CrazyThinker> oh
[04:32] <escott> try org.gnome.nautilus
[04:33] <CrazyThinker> found it!
[04:33] <CrazyThinker> Changed the font and its gone!!
[04:34]  * CrazyThinker awards 200 reputation points to escott 
[04:35] <escott> glad it worked for you. you'll have to keep in mind that any other gconf-editor tweaks should still work, but now with dconf-editor and gsettings, and might be in a somewhat different location
[06:10] <truepurple> I am having DNS problems, could this at all be the fault of ubuntu? Or would that only be either caused by my modem, or my ISP?
[09:54] <nk8215> Morning :) Oh no, why am I listed twice in the list of persons in this channel? O.O
[09:55] <coalwater> are u ?
[09:55] <bioterror> nope, you are not
[09:55] <nk8215> Yeah
[09:59] <nk8215> Oh, I see now - my "second nick" is my alternative one, my IRC client or the server cannot somehow print the underscore at its end :)
[09:59] <nk8215> It prints a space instead
[10:01] <nk8215> Which is not visible in the list...
[10:02] <coalwater> you probably tried to login from 2 places, or somehow the session disconnected and then it tried to login again but it found ur nick taken then it appended an '_' to get in, after some time the server realizes that one of the nicks isn't responding to pings or something so it disconnects it
[10:05] <coalwater> you could force it to happen by msg'ing nickserv, /msg nickserv ghost 'nick' 'password', no qoutes and u probably dont want to type it in a channel just in case u missed a character so it doesnt post ur pw over here
[10:05] <coalwater> but u dont really need it right now, im just telling you cause it might be helpful some other time
[10:09] <nk8215> Anyway, let's head over to my problem :) I've bought a brand new external HDD and wanted to install Ubuntu onto it. Due to the fact that I'll be using it mostly with my Asus Eee PC 1015 netbook, I chose Oneiric Ocelot. The installation had gone normally, until GRUB was supposed to be installed - the installation program refused to do that. When I, however, re-booted (from my USB flash drive), I found two complete GRUBs in all two locations I tried be
[10:13] <nk8215> The main problem is that none of them would load - all I become when booting from the USB HDD is that well-known BIOS error message about selecting proper boot device...
[10:21] <nk8215> could it somehow be connected with EFI? (There is Win7 pre-installed on the netbook, as well as a recovery partition)
[10:29] <nk8215> For the EFI, I have seen something about eLILO, where e is supposed to stand for EFI...What do you think, would such a bootloader replacement make sense in my case?
[10:33] <nk8215> okay, bye for now :)