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mhall119jono: ping04:45
jonohey mhall11905:27
mhall119jono: did you see the register's take on my blog post?05:33
mhall119:(05:33
mhall119I've already asked them to correct it05:34
jonomhall119, no? link?05:35
jonogot it05:36
jonoreading05:36
jonomhall119, looks like a reasonable write up to me05:37
mhall119only they made it sound like the official Canonical reaponse05:39
mhall119the headline bothered me more than anything05:42
czajkowskimorning06:31
czajkowskimhall119: which article?06:38
jonomhall119, I wouldn't worry about it, classic El Reg06:51
jonook, bed for me07:04
jononight all!07:04
dholbachgood morning08:01
bkerensamhall119: I would love to see the link08:06
popeyczajkowski / bkerensa http://forums.theregister.co.uk/post/reply/1249584?08:09
popeybah08:09
popeyczajkowski / bkerensa http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/30/canonical_distrowatch_figures/08:09
bkerensathanks popey08:10
popeymhall119: http://mhall119.com/2011/11/reports-of-ubuntus-death-are-greatly-exaggerated/#comment-1510 you misunderstood jefs reply08:11
popeyhis 'last paragraph' comment was about the last paragraph in the reply you made, not the last paragraph in the article08:12
czajkowskipopey: cheers08:37
MooDoomorning all08:50
AlanBellI hadn't even heard of distro watch up to a couple of weeks ago09:14
MooDooseriously?09:15
MooDoowow09:15
AlanBellyes, seriously09:15
MooDoofair enough :)09:15
AlanBellI still have no idea why I would ever go there09:15
mainerrorWell I knew about distro watch but I didn't visit the site for at least two years.09:15
czajkowskipopey: did you find a suitable laptop to replace the mac?09:28
bkerensa;) We should just get all locos to homepage the Ubuntu distrowatch page for a week or two and that will settle this whole flurry of blog posts09:33
MooDooi had a look at the one he was thinking about czajkowski thinkpad x220 looks pretty good :)09:34
* mainerror approves all ThinkPads09:34
nigelbAlanBell: I had hard of it, but I'd never visited it. I actually still haven't visited it.09:34
nigelb*heard09:35
popeyczajkowski: almost certainly thinkpad x22010:38
dholbachpopey, do it! :)10:39
* dholbach is very happy10:39
nigelbAlmost everyone I know has an x220 now :)10:39
dholbachand I even got happier when I found out there was a BIOS setting to enable the virtualisation bits ;-)10:39
popeyprobably with 9 cell battery10:40
popeydholbach: is that what you have?10:40
dholbachhum, I need to check what kind of battery it is10:41
dholbachI'm usually pretty ignorant to these facts, right after I bought something10:41
nigelbunless it stopped working :P10:42
* jussi is hanging out for those new ultra slim thinkpads10:42
nigelbdholbach: is this the one you dropped and got an SSD harddisk for?10:42
dholbachnigelb, this one I didn't drop yet - but previous laptops I dropped a lot10:43
nigelbheh10:43
dholbachI even spilled a full glass of water into the keyboard of my x40 and it survived :)10:43
nigelbYou need one of those Panasonic Toughbooks ;)10:44
dholbachpopey, yes, seems to be 9-cell10:44
jussisigh... centrino 1000 is borked on oneiric :(10:46
czajkowskipopey: good to know I see some laptop shopping in my future :)10:49
popeyhehe10:52
popeyi asked on a mailing list what laptop to get, pretty much everyone said thinkpad10:52
popeyand many said x22010:52
popeyseems there's a bit of a club of people with them10:52
* popey notes one next to himself on the desk10:52
jussipopey: theres a whole wiki just for thinkpads on linux - it rocks10:54
nigelbpopey: are you in Millbank?10:54
czajkowskipopey: you at home ?10:54
jussipopey: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki - and it seems to have some info for other operating systems users10:54
popeyhttps://twitter.com/#!/popey/status/14183229167568486410:55
popeydoes that answer your question czajkowski / nigelb10:55
* czajkowski waves from E&C :)10:55
czajkowskihmm X220 is almost 1K10:55
czajkowskiwowoza10:55
czajkowskiI drop stuff10:55
popeyjorge dropped his thinkpad onto concrete10:57
popeyit chipped the concrete10:57
nigelbpopey: That's why I had that question :)10:57
czajkowskipopey: this is good to know10:57
czajkowskiwondering where to buy, UK or IE depending on price10:58
jussiczajkowski: uk11:00
jussiAfter working for dell in both UK and IE sides, uk is definately cheaper11:00
czajkowskijussi: factor in I have cash in yoyos11:00
czajkowskiso need to allow for exchange rate and moving it over here11:00
jussiczajkowski: put it to your credit ard and buy like that - easiest, cheapest way of "moving" the money.11:01
czajkowskinods11:01
jussi(yes, Ive lived in foreign countries for too long)...11:01
alouriehello11:20
alouriepopey: too bad you didn't make the servey couple of weeks ago. Lenovo had amazing deals for Black Friday11:45
* alourie is sorry he didn't get anything11:46
popeyheh11:51
popeynot sure we have the same black friday deals here in the uk11:51
popeyalthough some vendors are trying11:51
alouriepopey: well, where I live, the prices could get up to x2 compared to US12:03
alourieso, buying with BF deals and shipping it here, +paying all the taxes would bring me at least 30-40% difference to what I can have here12:04
alourieit was well worth it12:04
alouriethat's why I'm sorry I didn't buy one12:04
alourienow I'll have to wait for another year12:04
alourie:-/12:04
scott-workgood morning :)12:52
MooDoomorning12:53
dpmhi all13:11
dpmI've just realised I wasn't on IRC13:11
nigelbdpm: I suppose you good too productive and then wondered why? ;)13:12
dpmexactly13:12
nigelb*got13:13
dpmI was wondering why I wasn't seeing any updates or pings... :)13:13
nigelbheh13:13
dpmI was on my desktop computer, and thought I had started IRC on my laptop13:13
alouriecprofitt: hey13:16
alourieI've seen the updates13:16
alourieI got some new stuff to add there, as soon as I got some time I will13:16
cprofitthello13:16
alouriethanks for the help13:16
dholbachhuats, ping13:35
dholbachhuats, still finishing an email13:35
huatsdholbach: sure13:35
huatsI have noted it at 15:0013:35
dholbachoh ok13:37
dholbach:)13:37
czajkowskipopey: looked at http://www.dabs.com/products/asus-zenbook-ux21e-kx004v-11-6--ultrabook-i5-2467m-4gb-128-ssd-w7hp-7RJ3.html15:13
popeyhttp://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Asus-Zenbook-UX21E-Ultrabook.65506.0.html15:24
popeycomprehenisve review czajkowski15:24
czajkowskipopey: thanks just looking at the 13' version now15:25
czajkowskihttp://zenbook.asus.com/product/?c=spec15:25
czajkowskicompares them both15:26
JanCugh, no separate PgUp/PgDn keys?15:28
AlanBellpopey: that is a really good quality review15:30
popeyjust like the mac JanC ☹15:34
czajkowskipopey: great review15:34
JanCwell, I don't want that mac then...  ;)15:34
czajkowskibit disapointed on the battery life15:35
czajkowskibut i am liking the 1315:35
czajkowskitempted to go find a pc world or currys tonight to go see one up close15:35
popeyI will almost certainly go thinkpad15:35
JanCpopey: it's one of the things that annoys me most on my Asus EEE 900: always needing two hands (Fn is on the left, the arrow keys on the right) to scroll through a text (or whatever else it is used for)15:36
nigelbJanC: yeah, I hate that with my work laptop as well15:37
JanCsame for Home/End actually15:37
nigelbThe Home/End is wwhat I miss sorely :)15:37
JanCI saw one 12' laptop that has a second Fn key on the right, just to the right of te Up key; that might help actually, but I didn't test it15:39
JanC12"15:39
JanC(12' would be somewhat large for a laptop screen :P )15:41
popeyneed a big bag for that15:55
nigelbhuh15:56
* nigelb has a 15" laptop screen.15:56
MooDoo17 here, dell studio15:59
jcastro<--- lunching a bit early today16:19
* popey tickles jcastro 16:28
* dholbach calls it a day - see you all tomorrow!17:02
MooDoolaters dholbach :)17:03
dholbachbye :)17:03
jcastrosnap-l: this new megadeth album is pretty uninspired18:25
jcastroI keep it on heavy rotation to try to get into it18:25
jcastrobut it's just not happening18:25
mhall119jcastro: have you tried turning it up to 11?18:27
mhall119I hear that helps18:27
snap-ljcastro: You said that about Endgame20:50
jcastroyeah but it only really has like 3 good songs on it20:51
snap-lI'm not sure what form of inspiration you're looking for20:51
jcastroyou could take the last 3 albums, weed out the junk, and have one good one20:51
snap-lIt's no Death Magnetic levels of inspired instrument flagellation20:51
snap-l"The end that never comes". ;)20:53
jcastrohah20:55
snap-lGranted I haven't heard the whole album through20:55
jcastrothat's awesome20:55
snap-l(13)20:55
jcastroof course not20:55
jcastroyou are king of jumping to conclusions20:55
snap-ljcastro: Bullshit20:55
snap-ljcastro: I listened to Death Magnetic all the way though20:55
snap-land I wanted to slit my wrists about halfway through20:55
snap-lOnly song that was halfway decent was Judas Kiss20:56
snap-lhttp://decafbad.net/2009/09/01/death-magnetic-one-year-later/20:56
snap-l“The Unforgiven III” is every single rock-n-roll cliché, done poorly, times three. The song starts with a piano riff that reminds me of Motley Crue’s “Home Sweet Home”, and devolves from there into a song that’s three times longer than it needs to be. About the only thing it needed was a 40 something with a Chinese dragon shirt yelling “Freebird” while his Zippo lighter20:58
snap-lilluminated the night.20:58
jcastrook you;'re right about that one21:02
snap-lthe problem is Metallica has had three albums to shape up21:03
snap-land Death Magnetic was the equivalent of Megadeth's Risk. ;)21:03
snap-lBut even a bad Megadeth album is better than a supposed great Metallica Album. :)21:04
* snap-l puts on The World Needs a Hero21:05
* snap-l switches to Cryptic Writings21:05
* JanC is listening to the new album of Die Anarchistische Abendunterhaltung: “The Shepherd's Dream”21:14
JanCthat's no metal though  :P21:14
JanCwell, "new" -> "newest"21:21
jcastro< --- EOD22:05
jcastrohey was bacon around today at all?22:05
jcastroI think he's at some Qt thing22:05
bkerensajcastro: I think maybe way earlier I saw him22:24

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