[04:45] jono: ping [05:27] hey mhall119 [05:33] jono: did you see the register's take on my blog post? [05:33] :( [05:34] I've already asked them to correct it [05:35] mhall119, no? link? [05:36] got it [05:36] reading [05:37] mhall119, looks like a reasonable write up to me [05:39] only they made it sound like the official Canonical reaponse [05:42] the headline bothered me more than anything [06:31] morning [06:38] mhall119: which article? [06:51] mhall119, I wouldn't worry about it, classic El Reg [07:04] ok, bed for me [07:04] night all! [08:01] good morning [08:06] mhall119: I would love to see the link [08:09] czajkowski / bkerensa http://forums.theregister.co.uk/post/reply/1249584? [08:09] bah [08:09] czajkowski / bkerensa http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/30/canonical_distrowatch_figures/ [08:10] thanks popey [08:11] mhall119: http://mhall119.com/2011/11/reports-of-ubuntus-death-are-greatly-exaggerated/#comment-1510 you misunderstood jefs reply [08:12] his 'last paragraph' comment was about the last paragraph in the reply you made, not the last paragraph in the article [08:37] popey: cheers [08:50] morning all [09:14] I hadn't even heard of distro watch up to a couple of weeks ago [09:15] seriously? [09:15] wow [09:15] yes, seriously [09:15] fair enough :) [09:15] I still have no idea why I would ever go there [09:15] Well I knew about distro watch but I didn't visit the site for at least two years. [09:28] popey: did you find a suitable laptop to replace the mac? [09:33] ;) We should just get all locos to homepage the Ubuntu distrowatch page for a week or two and that will settle this whole flurry of blog posts [09:34] i had a look at the one he was thinking about czajkowski thinkpad x220 looks pretty good :) [09:34] * mainerror approves all ThinkPads [09:34] AlanBell: I had hard of it, but I'd never visited it. I actually still haven't visited it. [09:35] *heard [10:38] czajkowski: almost certainly thinkpad x220 [10:39] popey, do it! :) [10:39] * dholbach is very happy [10:39] Almost everyone I know has an x220 now :) [10:39] and I even got happier when I found out there was a BIOS setting to enable the virtualisation bits ;-) [10:40] probably with 9 cell battery [10:40] dholbach: is that what you have? [10:41] hum, I need to check what kind of battery it is [10:41] I'm usually pretty ignorant to these facts, right after I bought something [10:42] unless it stopped working :P [10:42] * jussi is hanging out for those new ultra slim thinkpads [10:42] dholbach: is this the one you dropped and got an SSD harddisk for? [10:43] nigelb, this one I didn't drop yet - but previous laptops I dropped a lot [10:43] heh [10:43] I even spilled a full glass of water into the keyboard of my x40 and it survived :) [10:44] You need one of those Panasonic Toughbooks ;) [10:44] popey, yes, seems to be 9-cell [10:46] sigh... centrino 1000 is borked on oneiric :( [10:49] popey: good to know I see some laptop shopping in my future :) [10:52] hehe [10:52] i asked on a mailing list what laptop to get, pretty much everyone said thinkpad [10:52] and many said x220 [10:52] seems there's a bit of a club of people with them [10:52] * popey notes one next to himself on the desk [10:54] popey: theres a whole wiki just for thinkpads on linux - it rocks [10:54] popey: are you in Millbank? [10:54] popey: you at home ? [10:54] popey: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki - and it seems to have some info for other operating systems users [10:55] https://twitter.com/#!/popey/status/141832291675684864 [10:55] does that answer your question czajkowski / nigelb [10:55] * czajkowski waves from E&C :) [10:55] hmm X220 is almost 1K [10:55] wowoza [10:55] I drop stuff [10:57] jorge dropped his thinkpad onto concrete [10:57] it chipped the concrete [10:57] popey: That's why I had that question :) [10:57] popey: this is good to know [10:58] wondering where to buy, UK or IE depending on price [11:00] czajkowski: uk [11:00] After working for dell in both UK and IE sides, uk is definately cheaper [11:00] jussi: factor in I have cash in yoyos [11:00] so need to allow for exchange rate and moving it over here [11:01] czajkowski: put it to your credit ard and buy like that - easiest, cheapest way of "moving" the money. [11:01] nods [11:01] (yes, Ive lived in foreign countries for too long)... [11:20] hello [11:45] popey: too bad you didn't make the servey couple of weeks ago. Lenovo had amazing deals for Black Friday [11:46] * alourie is sorry he didn't get anything [11:51] heh [11:51] not sure we have the same black friday deals here in the uk [11:51] although some vendors are trying [12:03] popey: well, where I live, the prices could get up to x2 compared to US [12:04] so, buying with BF deals and shipping it here, +paying all the taxes would bring me at least 30-40% difference to what I can have here [12:04] it was well worth it [12:04] that's why I'm sorry I didn't buy one [12:04] now I'll have to wait for another year [12:04] :-/ [12:52] good morning :) [12:53] morning [13:11] hi all [13:11] I've just realised I wasn't on IRC [13:12] dpm: I suppose you good too productive and then wondered why? ;) [13:12] exactly [13:13] *got [13:13] I was wondering why I wasn't seeing any updates or pings... :) [13:13] heh [13:13] I was on my desktop computer, and thought I had started IRC on my laptop [13:16] cprofitt: hey [13:16] I've seen the updates [13:16] I got some new stuff to add there, as soon as I got some time I will [13:16] hello [13:16] thanks for the help [13:35] huats, ping [13:35] huats, still finishing an email [13:35] dholbach: sure [13:35] I have noted it at 15:00 [13:37] oh ok [13:37] :) [15:13] popey: looked at http://www.dabs.com/products/asus-zenbook-ux21e-kx004v-11-6--ultrabook-i5-2467m-4gb-128-ssd-w7hp-7RJ3.html [15:24] http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Asus-Zenbook-UX21E-Ultrabook.65506.0.html [15:24] comprehenisve review czajkowski [15:25] popey: thanks just looking at the 13' version now [15:25] http://zenbook.asus.com/product/?c=spec [15:26] compares them both [15:28] ugh, no separate PgUp/PgDn keys? [15:30] popey: that is a really good quality review [15:34] just like the mac JanC ☹ [15:34] popey: great review [15:34] well, I don't want that mac then... ;) [15:35] bit disapointed on the battery life [15:35] but i am liking the 13 [15:35] tempted to go find a pc world or currys tonight to go see one up close [15:35] I will almost certainly go thinkpad [15:36] popey: it's one of the things that annoys me most on my Asus EEE 900: always needing two hands (Fn is on the left, the arrow keys on the right) to scroll through a text (or whatever else it is used for) [15:37] JanC: yeah, I hate that with my work laptop as well [15:37] same for Home/End actually [15:37] The Home/End is wwhat I miss sorely :) [15:39] I saw one 12' laptop that has a second Fn key on the right, just to the right of te Up key; that might help actually, but I didn't test it [15:39] 12" [15:41] (12' would be somewhat large for a laptop screen :P ) [15:55] need a big bag for that [15:56] huh [15:56] * nigelb has a 15" laptop screen. [15:59] 17 here, dell studio [16:19] <--- lunching a bit early today [16:28] * popey tickles jcastro [17:02] * dholbach calls it a day - see you all tomorrow! [17:03] laters dholbach :) [17:03] bye :) [18:25] snap-l: this new megadeth album is pretty uninspired [18:25] I keep it on heavy rotation to try to get into it [18:25] but it's just not happening [18:27] jcastro: have you tried turning it up to 11? [18:27] I hear that helps [20:50] jcastro: You said that about Endgame [20:51] yeah but it only really has like 3 good songs on it [20:51] I'm not sure what form of inspiration you're looking for [20:51] you could take the last 3 albums, weed out the junk, and have one good one [20:51] It's no Death Magnetic levels of inspired instrument flagellation [20:53] "The end that never comes". ;) [20:55] hah [20:55] Granted I haven't heard the whole album through [20:55] that's awesome [20:55] (13) [20:55] of course not [20:55] you are king of jumping to conclusions [20:55] jcastro: Bullshit [20:55] jcastro: I listened to Death Magnetic all the way though [20:55] and I wanted to slit my wrists about halfway through [20:56] Only song that was halfway decent was Judas Kiss [20:56] http://decafbad.net/2009/09/01/death-magnetic-one-year-later/ [20:58] “The Unforgiven III” is every single rock-n-roll cliché, done poorly, times three. The song starts with a piano riff that reminds me of Motley Crue’s “Home Sweet Home”, and devolves from there into a song that’s three times longer than it needs to be. About the only thing it needed was a 40 something with a Chinese dragon shirt yelling “Freebird” while his Zippo lighter [20:58] illuminated the night. [21:02] ok you;'re right about that one [21:03] the problem is Metallica has had three albums to shape up [21:03] and Death Magnetic was the equivalent of Megadeth's Risk. ;) [21:04] But even a bad Megadeth album is better than a supposed great Metallica Album. :) [21:05] * snap-l puts on The World Needs a Hero [21:05] * snap-l switches to Cryptic Writings [21:14] * JanC is listening to the new album of Die Anarchistische Abendunterhaltung: “The Shepherd's Dream” [21:14] that's no metal though :P [21:21] well, "new" -> "newest" [22:05] < --- EOD [22:05] hey was bacon around today at all? [22:05] I think he's at some Qt thing [22:24] jcastro: I think maybe way earlier I saw him