[04:45] <mhall119> jono: ping
[05:27] <jono> hey mhall119
[05:33] <mhall119> jono: did you see the register's take on my blog post?
[05:33] <mhall119> :(
[05:34] <mhall119> I've already asked them to correct it
[05:35] <jono> mhall119, no? link?
[05:36] <jono> got it
[05:36] <jono> reading
[05:37] <jono> mhall119, looks like a reasonable write up to me
[05:39] <mhall119> only they made it sound like the official Canonical reaponse
[05:42] <mhall119> the headline bothered me more than anything
[06:31] <czajkowski> morning
[06:38] <czajkowski> mhall119: which article?
[06:51] <jono> mhall119, I wouldn't worry about it, classic El Reg
[07:04] <jono> ok, bed for me
[07:04] <jono> night all!
[08:01] <dholbach> good morning
[08:06] <bkerensa> mhall119: I would love to see the link
[08:09] <popey> czajkowski / bkerensa http://forums.theregister.co.uk/post/reply/1249584?
[08:09] <popey> bah
[08:09] <popey> czajkowski / bkerensa http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/30/canonical_distrowatch_figures/
[08:10] <bkerensa> thanks popey
[08:11] <popey> mhall119: http://mhall119.com/2011/11/reports-of-ubuntus-death-are-greatly-exaggerated/#comment-1510 you misunderstood jefs reply
[08:12] <popey> his 'last paragraph' comment was about the last paragraph in the reply you made, not the last paragraph in the article
[08:37] <czajkowski> popey: cheers
[08:50] <MooDoo> morning all
[09:14] <AlanBell> I hadn't even heard of distro watch up to a couple of weeks ago
[09:15] <MooDoo> seriously?
[09:15] <MooDoo> wow
[09:15] <AlanBell> yes, seriously
[09:15] <MooDoo> fair enough :)
[09:15] <AlanBell> I still have no idea why I would ever go there
[09:15] <mainerror> Well I knew about distro watch but I didn't visit the site for at least two years.
[09:28] <czajkowski> popey: did you find a suitable laptop to replace the mac?
[09:33] <bkerensa> ;) We should just get all locos to homepage the Ubuntu distrowatch page for a week or two and that will settle this whole flurry of blog posts
[09:34] <MooDoo> i had a look at the one he was thinking about czajkowski thinkpad x220 looks pretty good :)
[09:34]  * mainerror approves all ThinkPads
[09:34] <nigelb> AlanBell: I had hard of it, but I'd never visited it. I actually still haven't visited it.
[09:35] <nigelb> *heard
[10:38] <popey> czajkowski: almost certainly thinkpad x220
[10:39] <dholbach> popey, do it! :)
[10:39]  * dholbach is very happy
[10:39] <nigelb> Almost everyone I know has an x220 now :)
[10:39] <dholbach> and I even got happier when I found out there was a BIOS setting to enable the virtualisation bits ;-)
[10:40] <popey> probably with 9 cell battery
[10:40] <popey> dholbach: is that what you have?
[10:41] <dholbach> hum, I need to check what kind of battery it is
[10:41] <dholbach> I'm usually pretty ignorant to these facts, right after I bought something
[10:42] <nigelb> unless it stopped working :P
[10:42]  * jussi is hanging out for those new ultra slim thinkpads
[10:42] <nigelb> dholbach: is this the one you dropped and got an SSD harddisk for?
[10:43] <dholbach> nigelb, this one I didn't drop yet - but previous laptops I dropped a lot
[10:43] <nigelb> heh
[10:43] <dholbach> I even spilled a full glass of water into the keyboard of my x40 and it survived :)
[10:44] <nigelb> You need one of those Panasonic Toughbooks ;)
[10:44] <dholbach> popey, yes, seems to be 9-cell
[10:46] <jussi> sigh... centrino 1000 is borked on oneiric :(
[10:49] <czajkowski> popey: good to know I see some laptop shopping in my future :)
[10:52] <popey> hehe
[10:52] <popey> i asked on a mailing list what laptop to get, pretty much everyone said thinkpad
[10:52] <popey> and many said x220
[10:52] <popey> seems there's a bit of a club of people with them
[10:52]  * popey notes one next to himself on the desk
[10:54] <jussi> popey: theres a whole wiki just for thinkpads on linux - it rocks
[10:54] <nigelb> popey: are you in Millbank?
[10:54] <czajkowski> popey: you at home ?
[10:54] <jussi> popey: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki - and it seems to have some info for other operating systems users
[10:55] <popey> https://twitter.com/#!/popey/status/141832291675684864
[10:55] <popey> does that answer your question czajkowski / nigelb
[10:55]  * czajkowski waves from E&C :)
[10:55] <czajkowski> hmm X220 is almost 1K
[10:55] <czajkowski> wowoza
[10:55] <czajkowski> I drop stuff
[10:57] <popey> jorge dropped his thinkpad onto concrete
[10:57] <popey> it chipped the concrete
[10:57] <nigelb> popey: That's why I had that question :)
[10:57] <czajkowski> popey: this is good to know
[10:58] <czajkowski> wondering where to buy, UK or IE depending on price
[11:00] <jussi> czajkowski: uk
[11:00] <jussi> After working for dell in both UK and IE sides, uk is definately cheaper
[11:00] <czajkowski> jussi: factor in I have cash in yoyos
[11:00] <czajkowski> so need to allow for exchange rate and moving it over here
[11:01] <jussi> czajkowski: put it to your credit ard and buy like that - easiest, cheapest way of "moving" the money.
[11:01] <czajkowski> nods
[11:01] <jussi> (yes, Ive lived in foreign countries for too long)...
[11:20] <alourie> hello
[11:45] <alourie> popey: too bad you didn't make the servey couple of weeks ago. Lenovo had amazing deals for Black Friday
[11:46]  * alourie is sorry he didn't get anything
[11:51] <popey> heh
[11:51] <popey> not sure we have the same black friday deals here in the uk
[11:51] <popey> although some vendors are trying
[12:03] <alourie> popey: well, where I live, the prices could get up to x2 compared to US
[12:04] <alourie> so, buying with BF deals and shipping it here, +paying all the taxes would bring me at least 30-40% difference to what I can have here
[12:04] <alourie> it was well worth it
[12:04] <alourie> that's why I'm sorry I didn't buy one
[12:04] <alourie> now I'll have to wait for another year
[12:04] <alourie> :-/
[12:52] <scott-work> good morning :)
[12:53] <MooDoo> morning
[13:11] <dpm> hi all
[13:11] <dpm> I've just realised I wasn't on IRC
[13:12] <nigelb> dpm: I suppose you good too productive and then wondered why? ;)
[13:12] <dpm> exactly
[13:13] <nigelb> *got
[13:13] <dpm> I was wondering why I wasn't seeing any updates or pings... :)
[13:13] <nigelb> heh
[13:13] <dpm> I was on my desktop computer, and thought I had started IRC on my laptop
[13:16] <alourie> cprofitt: hey
[13:16] <alourie> I've seen the updates
[13:16] <alourie> I got some new stuff to add there, as soon as I got some time I will
[13:16] <cprofitt> hello
[13:16] <alourie> thanks for the help
[13:35] <dholbach> huats, ping
[13:35] <dholbach> huats, still finishing an email
[13:35] <huats> dholbach: sure
[13:35] <huats> I have noted it at 15:00
[13:37] <dholbach> oh ok
[13:37] <dholbach> :)
[15:13] <czajkowski> popey: looked at http://www.dabs.com/products/asus-zenbook-ux21e-kx004v-11-6--ultrabook-i5-2467m-4gb-128-ssd-w7hp-7RJ3.html
[15:24] <popey> http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Asus-Zenbook-UX21E-Ultrabook.65506.0.html
[15:24] <popey> comprehenisve review czajkowski
[15:25] <czajkowski> popey: thanks just looking at the 13' version now
[15:25] <czajkowski> http://zenbook.asus.com/product/?c=spec
[15:26] <czajkowski> compares them both
[15:28] <JanC> ugh, no separate PgUp/PgDn keys?
[15:30] <AlanBell> popey: that is a really good quality review
[15:34] <popey> just like the mac JanC ☹
[15:34] <czajkowski> popey: great review
[15:34] <JanC> well, I don't want that mac then...  ;)
[15:35] <czajkowski> bit disapointed on the battery life
[15:35] <czajkowski> but i am liking the 13
[15:35] <czajkowski> tempted to go find a pc world or currys tonight to go see one up close
[15:35] <popey> I will almost certainly go thinkpad
[15:36] <JanC> popey: it's one of the things that annoys me most on my Asus EEE 900: always needing two hands (Fn is on the left, the arrow keys on the right) to scroll through a text (or whatever else it is used for)
[15:37] <nigelb> JanC: yeah, I hate that with my work laptop as well
[15:37] <JanC> same for Home/End actually
[15:37] <nigelb> The Home/End is wwhat I miss sorely :)
[15:39] <JanC> I saw one 12' laptop that has a second Fn key on the right, just to the right of te Up key; that might help actually, but I didn't test it
[15:39] <JanC> 12"
[15:41] <JanC> (12' would be somewhat large for a laptop screen :P )
[15:55] <popey> need a big bag for that
[15:56] <nigelb> huh
[15:56]  * nigelb has a 15" laptop screen.
[15:59] <MooDoo> 17 here, dell studio
[16:19] <jcastro> <--- lunching a bit early today
[16:28]  * popey tickles jcastro 
[17:02]  * dholbach calls it a day - see you all tomorrow!
[17:03] <MooDoo> laters dholbach :)
[17:03] <dholbach> bye :)
[18:25] <jcastro> snap-l: this new megadeth album is pretty uninspired
[18:25] <jcastro> I keep it on heavy rotation to try to get into it
[18:25] <jcastro> but it's just not happening
[18:27] <mhall119> jcastro: have you tried turning it up to 11?
[18:27] <mhall119> I hear that helps
[20:50] <snap-l> jcastro: You said that about Endgame
[20:51] <jcastro> yeah but it only really has like 3 good songs on it
[20:51] <snap-l> I'm not sure what form of inspiration you're looking for
[20:51] <jcastro> you could take the last 3 albums, weed out the junk, and have one good one
[20:51] <snap-l> It's no Death Magnetic levels of inspired instrument flagellation
[20:53] <snap-l> "The end that never comes". ;)
[20:55] <jcastro> hah
[20:55] <snap-l> Granted I haven't heard the whole album through
[20:55] <jcastro> that's awesome
[20:55] <snap-l> (13)
[20:55] <jcastro> of course not
[20:55] <jcastro> you are king of jumping to conclusions
[20:55] <snap-l> jcastro: Bullshit
[20:55] <snap-l> jcastro: I listened to Death Magnetic all the way though
[20:55] <snap-l> and I wanted to slit my wrists about halfway through
[20:56] <snap-l> Only song that was halfway decent was Judas Kiss
[20:56] <snap-l> http://decafbad.net/2009/09/01/death-magnetic-one-year-later/
[20:58] <snap-l> “The Unforgiven III” is every single rock-n-roll cliché, done poorly, times three. The song starts with a piano riff that reminds me of Motley Crue’s “Home Sweet Home”, and devolves from there into a song that’s three times longer than it needs to be. About the only thing it needed was a 40 something with a Chinese dragon shirt yelling “Freebird” while his Zippo lighter
[20:58] <snap-l> illuminated the night.
[21:02] <jcastro> ok you;'re right about that one
[21:03] <snap-l> the problem is Metallica has had three albums to shape up
[21:03] <snap-l> and Death Magnetic was the equivalent of Megadeth's Risk. ;)
[21:04] <snap-l> But even a bad Megadeth album is better than a supposed great Metallica Album. :)
[21:05]  * snap-l puts on The World Needs a Hero
[21:05]  * snap-l switches to Cryptic Writings
[21:14]  * JanC is listening to the new album of Die Anarchistische Abendunterhaltung: “The Shepherd's Dream”
[21:14] <JanC> that's no metal though  :P
[21:21] <JanC> well, "new" -> "newest"
[22:05] <jcastro> < --- EOD
[22:05] <jcastro> hey was bacon around today at all?
[22:05] <jcastro> I think he's at some Qt thing
[22:24] <bkerensa> jcastro: I think maybe way earlier I saw him