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chrisccoulsonooh, pretty please say it is still marked as incompatible: https://plus.google.com/u/0/108611501090787019364/posts/MQ6CPFX3jme :)02:33
* chrisccoulson has fingers crossed02:33
pittiGood morning06:28
pittitkamppeter_: ah, nice06:28
didrocksgood morning06:33
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pittihey didrocks06:34
tkamppeterpitti, hi06:34
didrocksgood morning pitti06:35
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pittididrocks: would you mind uploading nux to precise for bug 754565? then we can release the SRU07:13
ubot2Launchpad bug 754565 in unity "Regression: shift+click on a launcher icon to open a new application instance gone" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75456507:13
pittididrocks: also, do we actually need teh unity task there, too?07:13
didrockspitti: hum, but there was no test for it07:13
pittididrocks: hm, interesting case -- it went through SRU verification, but no formal test07:14
didrockspitti: I mean, no test that will ensure that the quicklist regression won't happen again07:14
pittiand there's already an upstream release out there07:14
pittiwould be nice to have a test for this, of course07:14
didrockspitti: the nux part is already in ubuntu btw, before the final release07:16
didrockspitti: the unity part is still not reviewed, because of no test07:16
pittididrocks: oh? but we have an SRU for that07:16
didrockspitti: the nux part should be rather fix released, fixing07:16
didrockshum, really?07:16
pitti       nux | 1.14.0-0ubuntu1 |       oneiric | source07:16
pitti       nux | 1.16.0-0ubuntu1 | oneiric-proposed | source07:16
* didrocks just checked dates07:16
pittiwhich points to that bug07:16
pittibut we don't have 1.16 in precise07:16
didrockspitti: let me check07:17
didrockspitti: ok, so this particular fix for nux is already in oneiric (not proposed)07:18
didrockspitti: the milestone says "SRU1" because it was planned to have the unity fix for SRU107:18
didrockswhich didn't happen07:18
didrockspitti: are we ok pushing nux to precise? are the alpha1 iso already done?07:19
pittididrocks: so https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nux/1.16.0-0ubuntu1 points to a wrong bug then?07:19
didrockspitti: yeah, my script collects "fix committed" regarding the milestone07:19
pittididrocks: no, not done yet, but these will most likely be the final images07:19
pittiso uploading it tomorrow would be better07:19
didrockspitti: as upstream didn't set it to "fix released", it's been collected again, fixing it07:19
pittididrocks: so should I remove 1.16 from oneiric-proposed then?07:19
* pitti doesn't know what to do with this then07:20
didrockspitti: no, 1.16 fixes some rendering issues that are interested (and a potential crash)07:20
didrockspitti: I think it's been tested for long enough in -proposed to be pushed in both oneiric and precise07:21
pittiok; right, a lot of people regression-tested it by merely using it for a long time07:21
didrockspitti: sorry for the confusion, I was thinking about another fix the "first time quicklist isn't active", which is a hot topic07:21
didrockspitti: yeah, that's why I think it's fine for this one07:22
didrockspitti: but, then, we are blocking any SRU fix to have usptream tests07:22
didrocks(as we need to push in precise)07:22
didrockspitti: should I push something like 1.16.0-0ubuntu2 in precise? (it's still the old uploads when I though you were copying the package)07:22
pittiyes, that works07:23
didrocksok, will do tomorrow then!07:23
pittimerci!07:23
didrocksde rien :)07:23
rodrigo_morning08:44
didrocksgood morning rodrigo_08:55
rodrigo_hi didrocks08:56
pittihey rodrigo_, how are you?09:00
rodrigo_hi pitti09:00
seb128hey09:16
pittibonjour seb12809:23
seb128hey pitti, how are you?09:23
pittiseb128: quite fine, thanks! was happy that nothing blew up over the night09:24
seb128;-)09:24
pittibug 898040 really sucks, but nothing we can fix for a109:24
ubot2Launchpad bug 898040 in ubiquity "Ubiquity crashed while installing Lubuntu Precise (dup-of: 894768)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89804009:24
ubot2Launchpad bug 894768 in linux "Installation randomly fails with: File "/usr/lib/ubiquity/ubiquity/install_misc.py", line 621, in copy_file targetfh.write(buf) IOError: [Errno 22] Invalid argument " [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89476809:24
seb128pitti, yeah, I see that you are fighting with this one since yesterday09:24
seb128is that a kernel bug then?09:25
pittiactually already way before that :)  yes, kernel bug09:25
didrockssalut seb12809:29
seb128lut didrocks, ca va ?09:29
didrocksseb128: ça va ça va, et toi?09:30
seb128ca va bien ;-)09:30
didrocksneeding a reboot, brb09:30
pittiseb128: can you think of any visible change in precise that we sohuld mention for a1?09:33
pittiI have rhythmbox, apport crash reporting, and admin->sudo now09:33
seb128pitti, let me think, but I guess out of those you mentioned no, we had no dx uploads at all, no GNOME update, no lightdm update09:35
pittiright09:35
pittijust loads of fixes09:35
pittiseb128: ok, thanks09:35
seb128yw09:35
seb128RAOF, we are in 2011 ;-) (your new unity tests are copyrighted 2010 ;-)09:44
pittiwe should _so_ write tests for correct copyright headers!09:47
pittiRAOF: but if you still haven't adapted to 2011, don't bother any more; start with 2012 right away :)09:48
Sweetsharkpitti: we had tests like that in OpenOffice.org once. They broke whenever you changed something (even the copyright year) ....09:51
Sweetsharkpitti: luckily, we will never use those tests again in LO 'officially'. even better we use the two other test suites that actually make sense by now.09:52
pittibbl09:54
zygadoes anyone know how to stop automount on oneiric?10:07
seb128doh, I can see the rickspencer3's whip on us :p10:23
rickspencer3hi seb128 ;)10:23
rickspencer3no whip cracking10:23
seb128hey rickspencer3 ;-)10:23
pittihey rickspencer310:28
rickspencer3hiya pitti10:28
pittioh, rickspencer3 assigning a bunch of bugs :)10:29
rickspencer3sorry pitti10:29
rickspencer3I figured you weren't busy enough10:29
pittirickspencer3: no need to be sorry, appreciated10:30
rickspencer3hmmm?10:33
rickspencer3pitti, seb128 for a bug in indicator-power ... who do I assign that to?10:34
rickspencer3Dx Team, tedg, someone else?10:34
seb128rickspencer3, ted10:34
pittirickspencer3: jjardon seems to do most of the commits10:35
seb128pitti, he stopped contracting for dx around UDS10:35
seb128so ted is a better choice10:35
seb128he will dispatch if needed10:35
seb128I think10:35
pittiah10:35
seb128rickspencer3, it's that the bug you pointd on #ayatana you can probably assign it to TheMuso10:36
rickspencer3seb128, I did both ;)10:36
seb128he fixed a few of the "indicators don't have a11y description" bugs already I think10:37
pittirickspencer3: I mangled bug 891688 enough now; it's mostly cosmetical, so I just debugged it, sent it to upstream, and unassigned11:11
ubot2Launchpad bug 891688 in util-linux "mount -o remount always appends options to /etc/mtab even if they already exist" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89168811:11
rickspencer3thanks pitt11:11
rickspencer3pitti, thanks pitti ;)11:11
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seb128pitti, the gnome-control-center datetime panel under unity doesn't use libgweather (just for info)11:38
pittiseb128: oh, what does it use then?11:38
seb128pitti, it does use http://geoip.ubuntu.com11:38
seb128i.e same as ubiquity11:38
pittiseb128: so it ships a snapshot of that database then?11:39
seb128pitti, no, you need to be online for it to work I think11:39
seb128he does online queries11:39
pittiI thought I changed my time zone in the plane back then11:39
seb128well you probably add different tz defined and stored and switched between those?11:39
seb128the completion thing is using geoip for sure, I've been looking at some of the bug with mterry previous cycle11:40
pittiI added Orlando on the flight there11:40
seb128but maybe they do cache some of the datas11:40
seb128pitti, well I'm unsure about the map11:41
seb128pitti, but the "add a location" in the second tab is using the geoip stuff11:41
seb128I would guess that the text entry on the first tab does the same11:41
seb128pitti, what I'm sure is that it doesn't use libgweather, we had that discussion when they designed the datetime stuff, they prefered to use the geoip database11:42
pittiseb128: ok, thanks for letting me know11:43
seb128well that was a "for info" in any case, nothing important11:43
seb128yw ;-)11:43
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rodrigo_mvo, https://code.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/system-service/fix-877088/+merge/8393212:24
didrockshum, bzr regressed tarmac badly in precise12:32
didrocksAPI changes it seems12:32
* didrocks had to reinstall the older bzr for now12:33
mvorodrigo_: thanks a bunch! I check it out (in a phnecall currently)12:38
rodrigo_mvo, ok, no hurry, moving to other stuff now, so take your time :)12:38
mvook12:38
* rodrigo_ lunch, bbl12:59
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seifdidrocks, which gedit will u guys be using13:23
seif?13:23
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didrocksseif: 3.2 probably13:38
didrockswe try to stay on a stable platform for the LTS13:38
seifdidrocks, hmmmmmm13:54
seifdidrocks, my latest plugin (the dash) works against trunk13:54
seifdid not try against 3.213:55
seifalthough wait13:55
seifi am using 3.213:55
seifshit13:55
seifhehehe13:55
seifits working13:55
seifanyhow it went upstream to 3.3 now13:55
didrocksseif: nice! :)13:58
didrocksseif: it's not the datasource right, it's a independent plugin?13:58
seifyeah14:01
seifthe datasource is in gedit14:01
seifits a softdependency14:01
seifjust compile gedit against zeitgeist14:01
seif:)14:01
didrocksyeah, that's what we have :)14:15
didrocksseif: not quite sure how to get your dashboard though14:15
didrocksseif: just opening gedit doesn't give me anything weirdly, there14:17
seifdidrocks, there is a plugin14:19
seifwait14:19
seiflet me pull it for you14:19
didrocksseif: indeed, the datasource one14:19
dobeydesrt: ping; can you accept my joining ~upstream on launchpad? :)14:42
desrtdobey: granted :)14:43
dobeythanks14:43
dobeyhuzzah; now lp:glib points at the right thing and isn't 2.5 years old14:46
desrtoh.  this problem again.14:47
pedro_kenvandine, when you have some time, may you please have a look to bug 304889 ?14:48
ubot2Launchpad bug 304889 in telepathy-idle "Does not use system proxy settings" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30488914:48
kenvandinepedro_, sure14:48
pedro_kenvandine, thanks!14:48
dobeycan we ship gnome 2.32 as the version for precise?15:17
seb128dobey, no?15:18
desrtdobey: I LOVE IT15:22
dobeydesrt: gnome 2.32?15:22
desrtthe idea of shipping it for precise15:22
dobeystable platform where things actually work, ftw.15:23
desrtgnome needs to shake things up from time to time to keep y'all on your feet15:24
desrtcan you blame us?15:24
dobeyupstreams being inconsiderate pain in my side, ftl.15:24
mdeslaurrodrigo_: sorry about that15:27
rodrigo_mdeslaur, no problem :)15:28
mdeslaurrodrigo_: I apparently lack caffeine this morning :P15:28
rodrigo_:D15:28
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seb128seif, didrocks: gedit version> that's not really decided, we default to stay on 3.2 but we said we would visit mid-cycle standalone softwares to see which ones we would benefit from upgrading and pick a few useful ones most like15:35
seb128seif, didrocks: things like eog, gedit, etc are good candidates for things we might be able to upgrade if there is a good reason to do so15:35
seifthere are no big canges from 3.2 to 3.415:36
seifdidrocks, do u use gedit urself15:37
seif?15:37
seifdidrocks, git@github.com:seiflotfy/gedit-dashboard.git15:38
seifuse the dashbaor dbranch15:38
seifmy plgun is in there15:38
seb128seif, well, we are waiting to see what comes in the cycle15:38
seifmy plugin :P15:38
dobeyseif: get a bigger keyboard, or smaller fingers ;)15:38
seifit should be pushed upstream today15:38
didrocksseb128: hum, but this is not in the gedit we have,  isn't it? so let's wait to see if we upgrade :)15:39
seifdobey, will do15:39
seb128seif, like when gtk gets the shell menu thing application will start using the api, we need to see how that fits with unity, we need also to make sure we will upgrade gtk before considering gedit15:39
seifoki doki15:39
seifmy patch works on 3.2 though15:39
seif:P15:39
seb128didrocks, right, I was just replying to "<didrocks> seif: 3.2 probably"15:39
seifi have gedit 3.2 installed and i use my plugin with it15:39
seifdobey, sir yes sir15:39
seb128didrocks, seif: well in this case it seems it's easier to just backport the patch since that should work fine15:39
seifyeppers15:40
seif:)15:40
nessitahello everyone! /me is back from holidays :-)15:55
nessitaseb128: hi there :-) is there anything else I need to do to bug #891192?15:55
ubot2Launchpad bug 891192 in ubuntu "Please sponsor the proposed qt4reactor packaging branch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89119215:56
didrockshey nessita!15:57
nessitahey didrocks! how is it going?15:57
seb128hey nessita15:58
didrocksnessita: I'm fine, thanks. Yourself? how were your holidays?15:58
seb128nessita, no, you just need somebody motivated to do review and sponsoring, I've to admit I stayed away from it because it has qt in the name and I've no clue about qt15:58
nessitaseb128: but the one doing the review has to review the source code? I though the review was about packaging only15:59
seb128nessita, no, but better to make sure that the stuff build and works as it should ;-)16:00
nessitadidrocks: my holidays were great! I'm very happy I took them, I realized I needed them more that I thought16:00
nessitaseb128: I see. Anyone in particular you recommend for me to chase? :-)16:00
didrocksnice :)16:00
seb128nessita, try mdeslaur maybe, he's patch pilot today16:07
seb128nessita, https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=6k1e5rq45m1bdqq0n1ge3oqaok@group.calendar.google.com&ctz=Europe/Berlin&gsessionid=OK16:07
seb128nessita, or mterry tomorrow if that doesn't work with mdeslaur today16:08
nessitaseb128: thanks :-)16:09
seb128nessita, yw ;-)16:09
seb128kenvandine, hey, did you see bug #886056?16:40
ubot2Launchpad bug 886056 in empathy "Cannot respond to friendship requests from Empathy" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88605616:40
kenvandineyup16:43
kenvandinei am going to add that16:44
kenvandinei think friday i am going to spend hacking on tp-indicator, so probably have it done then16:45
loolHey there16:48
loolgnome-desktop FTBFSes on armhf due to missing libs on the linker command:16:49
lool.libs/gnome-desktop-thumbnail.o: In function `gnome_desktop_thumbnail_factory_generate_thumbnail':16:49
lool/build/buildd/gnome-desktop-2.32.1/libgnome-desktop/gnome-desktop-thumbnail.c:881: undefined reference to `floor'16:49
loolwe have a 2.x source package, but there are 3.x sources available, are these not ok to include in Ubuntu for some reason?  (I know we're in freeze of course)16:50
loolOk, I see there's a gnome-desktop3 source; will update the gnome-desktop watch file16:53
micahglool: that's due to this change: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2011-August/msg00236.html16:54
loolLikely indeed16:55
seb128kenvandine, thanks, can you comment on the bug saying you will work on it?16:56
loolstill some sources to port from libgnome-desktop-dev16:56
loolbanshee gnome-desktop-sharp2 gnome-launch-box gnome-mag gnome-python-desktop icewm libdesktop-agnostic libslab mistelix unity16:56
loolsurprized about unity though16:56
seb128lool, is there any reason armhf is any different from other archs there or did we just didn't test rebuild since?16:56
seb128lool, gnome-desktop is gtk2, gnome-desktop3 is gtk316:56
loolseb128: I don't think it differs on this, probably would appear on other arches16:56
seb128lool, the world is not going to be ported to gtk3 in a year, I guess we will keep both for a while ;-)16:57
loolseb128: Yup; the number of source packages to port is relatively small it seems16:57
seb128lool, well, one is enough, you probably remember gtk1 and gnucash ;-)16:58
loolhaha16:58
loolseb128: unity is staying gtk2 for LTS?16:58
seb128lool, no, unity is gtk3 since oneiric16:58
mdeslaur@pilot out16:58
seb128lool, what keep gtk2 on the CD is basically firefox and libreoffice (and some small stuff like openssh, xdg-user-dirs, etc)16:59
mdeslaurgah16:59
seb128mdeslaur, wrong channel :p16:59
mdeslaurseb128: yes :P16:59
seb128mdeslaur, did you help nessita btw? ;-)16:59
mdeslaurseb128: I took a look, but I'm not sure about the licensing issue there.16:59
nessitamdeslaur: what do you mean?17:00
loolseb128: Hmm unity bdeps on both libgnome-desktop-dev, and libgnom-desktop-3-dev, ?17:00
mdeslaurnessita: I'm not enough of a licensing expert, someone will need to see if we can ship qt4reactor which is MIT with twisted which is MIT and pyqt which is GPL17:01
seb128lool, seems like a packaging bug, blame didrocks :p17:01
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* lool phones didrocks immediately17:01
seb128;-)17:02
didrockswhat what? :)17:02
* didrocks backlogs17:02
seb128didrocks, you have a call17:02
looldidrocks: unity bdeps on both libgnome-desktop-dev, and libgnom-desktop-3-dev,17:02
seb128didrocks, pick up the phone, it's lool, he's unhappy ;-)17:02
nessitamdeslaur: any idea who can know about that?17:02
didrockslool: oh, how rude! :)17:02
* didrocks checks17:02
mdeslaurnessita: I was just trying to figure that out :)17:03
mdeslaurnessita: I was told to ask in #ubuntu-release17:03
pittigood night everyone!17:03
nessitamdeslaur: joining so I can learn as well :-)17:03
didrockshum hum, indeed17:03
seb128'night pitti17:03
nessitabye pitti!17:03
didrockspitti: have a good night pitti :)17:03
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didrockslool: ok, fixed :)17:04
looldidrocks: thanks  :-)17:05
didrockslool: yw, but 2 is better than none, isn't it? :)17:06
seb128 /msg didrocks, the trick to get lool back doing desktop work is working17:07
seb128ups :p17:07
loolhehe17:07
didrocksseb128: writing to me in english? hard to believe :p17:07
seb128;-)17:07
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micahgcan someone look into this please: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/897952, I'm happy to provide more info17:49
ubot2Launchpad bug 897952 in dbus "dbus-daemon uses a large amount of CPU" [Undecided,New]17:49
micahgbetween that an zeigeist, I'm running at least 1 CPU all the time17:50
micahgs/CPU.core/17:50
didrockshave a good night everyone!17:54
seb128micahg, can you use dbus-monitor to see what is spamming the bus?17:58
seb128micahg, could be bug #774071 (indicator-datime)17:59
micahgchecking17:59
ubot2Launchpad bug 774071 in indicator-datetime "Indicator-datetime-service renders 100% CPU usage" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77407117:59
seb128like if that's that usually killing indicator-datetime stop the issue17:59
loolI pushed a gnome-desktop FTBFS fix to the bzr branch for after A118:03
seb128lool, thanks18:03
dobeybtw, is glib 2.31 coming in anytime soon, or are we sticking on 2.30 for P?18:04
seb128dobey, it will come after a118:04
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dobeyseb128: darn. there will be a LOT of FTBFS at that point then18:05
seb128dobey, why?18:05
dobeyseb128: it removes some API that was deprecated18:05
seb128no way18:05
dobeyparticularly, g_thread_init18:05
seb128you probably build with G_DISABLE_DEPRECATED?18:06
dobeyseb128: no, there's no g_thrad_init in http://git.gnome.org/browse/glib/tree/glib/gthread.h18:07
micahgseb128: I don't have indicator-datetime running, still looking at dbus-monitor18:07
seb128dobey, it's in glib/deprecated/etc/...18:07
seb128dobey, they moved the included in a deprecated dir18:08
dobeyoh18:08
dobeyok18:09
micahgseb128: seems to be a lot of calls to the volume monitor18:16
seb128who is doing those?18:16
seb128do you use gnome-system-monitor or nautilus?18:16
seb128nautilus --quit?18:16
micahgdid that, no help, how do I decode stuff like :1.9318:17
seb128oh18:18
seb128did you dbus-monitor --session?18:18
micahgnope :)18:19
seb128try that one rather, it's usually the session bus that gets spammed18:19
seb128to find what has the id, run d-feet18:19
seb128they are listed on the left, if you select it you have the binary on the right18:20
micahgseb128: zeitgeist18:21
seb128there you go ;-)18:21
seb128it's mhr3's fault! or seif's or kamstrup's one18:21
seb128micahg, what sort of requests does it do?18:21
seb128dbus-monitor should tell you18:22
micahgyep, killing zeitgeist ended the assault on my CPU :)18:22
mhr3micahg, what version is that?18:23
micahgseems to be lots of calls for volume monitor and vfs18:23
micahg0.8.99~alpha1-1ubuntu218:23
mhr3micahg, dbus-monitor/bustle log would be extremely useful18:23
mhr3+new bug opened with those :)18:23
micahgmhr3: will do, thanks18:25
seb128chrisccoulson, m_conley: do you know how to debug the tb notifications? the "you received <nn> new email" notify-osd bubbles often have a crazy counter, like I receive 5 email and the bubble states I received 19639 ones18:30
seb128it's correct at some other times, so it's not always off count18:30
m_conleyseb128: holy smokes that's a big count18:30
seb128well the number seems random18:30
m_conleyseb128: I think chrisccoulson knows that code a bit better...18:30
seb128just got a 60k one ;-)18:30
seb128m_conley, he said he never looked at the notification code the other day18:31
m_conleyseb128: oh, wait, hold on18:31
seb128*shrug*, I guess none of you know that code then ;-)18:31
m_conleyseb128: you're talking about libnotify - sorry, was confusing that with Messaging Menu18:31
seb128yeah18:31
m_conleyseb128: yes, I sort of know that code - though it's been a few months18:31
m_conleyseb128: actually, there's a guy working on fixing up our notifications right now - his name is irving, and you can find him in #maildev on irc.mozilla.org.18:32
seb128is there any debug info I can get that would be useful for a bug report? I guess that a bug "the count in the bubble is crazy" wouldn't be very useful by itself18:32
m_conleyseb128: unforunately, no - that code isn't rigged for debugging / logging.  :/18:33
micahgmhr3: bustle-dbus-monitor output is > 60MB already18:39
mhr3micahg, no need to run it for 5 minutes :)18:39
micahgmhr3: ah, I thought I had to wait for it to complete18:39
mhr3micahg, nope, you just ctrl+c it after a couple of seconds18:40
seb128micahg, it's like dbus-monitor, it will never complete, it just keeps logging while it's running ;-)18:41
mhr3micahg, out of curiosity do you have any unusual devices connected to your computer?18:42
micahgseb128: right, I finally realized that18:42
micahgmhr3: nope, just headphones ATM18:42
mhr3micahg, interesting, also the cpu is consistently 100% when you run zg?18:43
seb128mhr3, it seems zg spam the bus enough that dbus is using 100% cpu :p18:44
mhr3seb128, didn't i say that the new zg is actually a stress test for dbus-daemon? :)18:44
seb128;-)18:45
seb128mhr3, it's a feature right?18:45
micahgmhr3: one core is18:45
micahg20% zeitgeist/80%dbus-daemon18:46
micahgbug 89830518:46
ubot2Launchpad bug 898305 in zeitgeist "zeitgeist-daemon is flooding dbus" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89830518:46
seb128lol18:47
seb128mhr3, does that mean that zg efficiency is higher than the dbus one? ;-)18:47
seb128like it's consuming less than dbus for the same trafic? ;-)18:48
micahgit's 1:5 actually :)18:48
mhr3seb128, sure, it's all kinds of awesome ;P18:48
mhr3micahg, any chance to find out what process owns :1.158?18:51
micahgmhr3: sure18:51
micahgare these IDs consistent across reboots?18:52
mhr3nope18:53
micahgugh, what about session log out?18:53
mhr3no18:53
micahgtoo late then :)18:53
mhr3if the process died meanwhile the answer is also "no"18:54
micahgwould you like another output file?18:55
seb128the id of the clients should have changed if they didn't restart no?18:56
mhr3micahg, one more thing, does zg output something if you run it via terminal?18:59
micahgyes18:59
mhr3like constantly something?18:59
micahgno, just something at startup ~20 lines19:00
micahgI can pastebin or attach to the bug19:00
mhr3micahg, pastebin pls19:01
mhr3there probably won't be anything interesting in that case...19:01
mhr3seb128, i'm afraid it's an issue deeper in the stack19:01
micahghttp://paste.ubuntu.com/755241/19:02
mhr3seb128, apps using GVolumeMonitor coming to mind?19:02
mhr3yea, nothing interesting really19:03
loolis there a gtk3 / gnome3 gtk2-engines?19:09
seifmicahg, can u print out dbus-monitor stuff for zeitgeist19:10
seif?19:10
seifmicahg, what apps do u have open right now19:10
micahgseif: if you tell me how :)19:10
micahgseif: unity-3d, d-feet, xfce4-terminal19:11
nessitamdeslaur: I had to reboot at some point, did you have any feedback re: qt4reactor package/licensing?19:12
mdeslaurnessita: no, no feedback yet about licensing19:12
mdeslaurnessita: i wouldn't worry too much about it though, licensing is probably ok19:13
mdeslaurnessita: I didn't get past that step, could you ask the next patch pilot to actually look at your package?19:13
nessitamdeslaur: I will, tomorrow. Thanks :-) (I'm worried since we're kinda blocked on that package in order to package some QT stuff)19:14
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seifmhr3, what is the best dbus-monitor command to monitor all zeitgeist traffic19:15
seif?19:15
mdeslaurnessita: twisted didn't want to bundle it because of licensing issues, but it may be ok since it's in a separate package but someone better qualified than me should make that decision19:15
nessitamdeslaur: right, thanks!19:16
seif     micahg r u running zeitgeist right now?19:17
micahgyes19:17
seifok good19:17
seifmicahg,                                     dbus-monitor "interface='org.gnome.zeitgeist.Monitor'"19:23
seiftype that into a terminal and give me the output in 5 minutes19:23
seif(is zeitgeist still overusing ur cpu?)19:23
micahgyes, it's constant19:23
seifdid u run the command i told you19:25
micahgit's running now, only one thing so far19:25
seifhmmmmmmmmmmmm19:25
seifhmmmmmmmm19:26
seifmicahg, can u do killall zeitgeist-datahub19:26
micahgno change except for a little more debug output19:26
seiffuck19:27
seifi fear unity could be requesting constantly from zeitgeist19:27
seif-.-19:27
seifmicahg, try                                dbus-monitor "interface='org.gnome.zeitgeist.Log'"19:29
seifif its going batshit crazy then we can trace it from here19:29
micahgseif: same issue with Xfce19:30
micahgand only 1 thing with that second dbus-monitor query19:31
seifmicahg, what do u mean by same issue with xfce19:32
seif?19:32
micahgseif: I get the same CPU spike with xfce, it's not just with uniyt19:33
micahg*unity19:33
seifmicahg, ok one more thing 1) killall zeitgeist-daemon   2)  cp -r .local/share/zeitgeist to .local/share/zeitgeist-backup 3) zeitgeist-daemon --replace19:34
mhr3micahg, pls run just `python -c "from gi.repository import Gio, GLib; ml = GLib.MainLoop(); vm = Gio.VolumeMonitor.get(); print vm.get_volumes(); ml.run()"`19:35
mhr3and see if it uses 100% cpu19:35
micahgmhr3: no19:37
micahgseif: it's no longer eating up CPU19:37
mhr3micahg, so my command actually fixed it? :)19:39
micahgmhr3: no, I think it's seif19:39
seb128lool, no19:39
mhr3micahg, make sure by restarting session :)19:39
micahgwas just going to ask if I could at this point19:40
seb128lool, well not by default for gtk, we have one (unico) for our theme19:40
seb128lool, gtk is only using css theming19:40
loolseb128: I see there are newer GNOME upstream releases of it, that's why I was wondering19:41
micahgmhr3: heh, it's back :)19:41
mhr3micahg, try my cmd19:41
loolseb128: I guess I'll just backport the FTBFS fix for gtk2-engines rather than move to the latest one19:41
seb128lool, no19:41
seb128lool, the theming got totally reworked in gtk319:41
seb128lool, they moved from their old engine and gtkrc to css themin19:41
seb128theming19:42
loolthere's a 2.91 gtk-engines upstream http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gtk-engines/2.91/19:42
micahgmhr3: nope, still high19:42
seb128lool, the goal I think is to not need engines but give enough flexibility over css19:42
seb128lool, right, that's around the time they landed the css work ;-)19:42
lool2.90.3 says  - Port to GTK+ 2.90 (thanks to Bastien Nocera and others)19:42
seb128lool, which deprecated the need for it19:42
loolok, might be worth packaging the latest gtk2 version of it I guess19:43
mhr3micahg, :(19:43
seb128lool, well, I think we have the current one19:43
seb128lool, 2.91 was for gtk3 at a time where gtk3 didn't have css19:43
seifmicahg, what did i miss19:44
seifmhr3, what did i miss19:44
mhr3seif, the universe almost collapsed19:44
micahgseif: your thing fixed it for the session only, when I logged out and back in, I had the same issue19:44
seifwhat why19:44
mhr3micahg, can i get you to attach also a half-second of dbus-monitor to the bug?19:45
seifmicahg, ok then do the same thing but instead of restarting zeitgeist log in and out again or restart the session19:45
micahgstraight dbus-monitor?19:45
mhr3micahg, yep19:45
seifmicahg, today i will have nightmares if we dont know what the problem is19:47
seiflol19:47
mhr3micahg, your night is gonna suck then :)19:48
micahgseif: nope, session restart brings it back19:49
seifthat makes no sense -.-19:49
seifmhr3, where do we try to access the volumes19:50
mhr3seif, sorry that was for you ^^19:50
loolseb128: Ok, so 2.9x ones are useless now and we'll keep it as it is until gtk2 dies?19:50
seb128lool, that's my understanding yes19:50
loolOk19:51
micahgwhich is at least 2 more years :)19:51
mhr3lool, so how often people accidentally ping you when they laugh? :)19:52
micahgmhr3: attached19:52
mhr3micahg, thx19:53
loolThat happens more often than for mhr319:53
mhr3lool, i can imagine :)19:53
seb128mhr3, oh, you should ask how often people ping him when they want to know about the libreoffice online version :p19:53
seifmicahg, can u do "find / -name 'zeitgeist'" or me19:53
seb128lool, I'm disappointed that googling for "lool" return libreoffice stuff before you btw!19:53
loolseriously19:54
loolthey've displaced me19:54
loolI used to be one the first page of results for lool -- rightfully so!19:54
loolbut now everyone says lool for lol19:54
loolthese young people19:54
seb128yeah, you should just sue them for it!19:55
loolI'll install one of these high-pitch noise producer on my webpage19:55
seb128;-)19:56
seb128'night20:00
micahgseif: did you want all the permission denied entries as well?20:01
mhr3micahg, try something crazy - eject the cd you have in your cd drive :)20:02
RainCTCD drive? What's that?20:02
micahgmhr3: heh, that did it :)20:02
mhr3RainCT, something we didn't account for when developing zeitgeist ^^20:02
RainCTmhr3: I don't even have one :P20:03
mhr3let me try if i can reproduce this20:03
micahgooh, it's so quiet now :)20:03
seifmicahg, wont hurt20:03
micahgseif: we found the issue, it's the CD in the drive20:03
seifmicahg, lol20:04
mhr3micahg, that was audio cd right?20:04
micahgmhr3: indeed20:04
mhr3micahg, was it playing or something, or just sitting there?20:05
micahgjust sitting there AFAIk20:05
seifmhr3, the storagem onitor is not implmented yet20:06
seifwhat is the problem20:06
mhr3micahg, well there's some odd interaction between gvfs and zg, but i have no idea why, we're not trying to read it20:06
seifthe only thing though would try that is the storage-monitor.py20:07
RainCTseif: Bluebird20:07
RainCTseif: I did implement USB and stuff, just network was missing iirc20:08
mhr3seif, if you have audio cd, try to reproduce it20:09
mhr3i dont have any here20:09
RainCTmhr3: can't reproduce it with an external DVD reader20:12
seifmhr3, what do u think the issue is20:13
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loolI've commited a FTBFS fix for gtk2-engines in lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gtk2-engines/ubuntu for upload after A120:24
chrisccoulsonhi m_conley and seb12821:17
chrisccoulsonsorry, went out to the christmas market :)21:17
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chrisccoulsonbah, the tabbar is totally broken in todays firefox nightly22:03
chrisccoulsoni suppose that's not too bad, having not had a real problem for several months22:04
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AlanBellanyone know about the global menu?22:15
AlanBelland indicators for that matter22:15
JanCAlanBell: know what about hem?22:20
TheMusoAlanBell: Yes, what about them?22:22
AlanBelljust wondering about them all being tickboxes when read by orca22:25
AlanBelleverything is "$name tickbox not ticked"22:26
TheMusoAlanBell: I'm aware of it, and I'm on it.22:32
TheMusoAlanBell: Fixing that as part of my work to allow for extra info to be spoken about network names in network-manager etc.22:32
AlanBellcool, thanks22:35
TheMusonp22:37
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