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Davieyhallyn: I think it should show now, the blueprint00:02
hallynDaviey, not yet, assume a script needs to re-run?00:03
Davieyhallyn: cron00:03
hallynDaviey, yeah, netcf got into NEW - thanks ahs3!00:03
Davieyhallyn: if it's not there in my morning, i'll dig deeper00:03
hallynnext we need to sync it and then get it into main :)00:04
hallynDaviey, ok00:04
Davieyhallyn: I think the issue with the blueprint is that, no series was set.00:04
Davieyhallyn: If it happens to be in Debian tomorrow morning, i'll sync it over.00:04
Daviey(unlikely, based on the size of the queue IMO)00:04
Davieyright!00:05
Davieybed00:05
hallynnight :)00:05
ahs3hallyn: np :)00:16
osmosisany way to shrink unused space in a qcow2 file?00:46
zultruncate maybe?00:47
twb`osmosis: unused as in the guest's fs driver considers it unused?00:51
twb`Because obviously in that case it will still contain non-zero data00:51
osmosisqcow2 file grew large, but the files have since been deleted from the ext3 partition. The qcow2 file already grew large though. I want to shrink it.00:51
l0none way to do is to create a new qcow2 file and then copy everything across00:52
twb`osmosis: zerofree is the least worst thing00:52
twb`l0n: he'd need to provision a new fs on the new qcow2 from within the guest00:52
osmosisthats a local utility to run on the ext3 partition?00:52
twb`osmosis: as far as the qcow2 layer is concerned that contains valid data that it can't delete00:52
l0nna create a new qcow2 file, attach to guest and then dd everything00:52
twb`l0n: dd will copy the unallocated but non-zero blocks, forcing qcow2 to allocate them00:53
osmosismaybe i can use this: http://libguestfs.org/virt-resize.1.html00:53
l0nyeah ok true, in that case, use a new file but format it then copy manually00:53
l0nwould have to dd bootsector00:53
twb`The *right* solution would be for qemu to allow the guest to signal that the blocks are no longer needed, i.e. an -o discard (ATA TRIM) behaviour00:53
twb`l0n: right re MBR/PBR area00:54
osmosishttp://mindref.blogspot.com/2011/07/shrink-qcow2.html   says   qemu-img convert -O qcow2 w2k3.qcow2  w2k3-shrinked.qcow200:54
osmosistwb`, THAT would be cool00:54
twb`osmosis: I think that (the qemu-img convert line)  will not be particularly helpful in your case00:54
l0nalternatively, apparently you fill the unused space with zeros then run 'qemu-img convert -c' which compresses it00:54
osmosistwb`, even if I have the free space zero'd ?00:54
twb`Right, if you can zero the unused blocks, *then* make a new qcow2 using qemu-img, that should reduce its size00:55
osmosisif im just going to make a new qcow2 and rsync the data over, i wouldnt even bother zeroing the old image.00:55
twb`However this will increase the host's file size to 100% of the provisioned size during that transition, not to mention the space for  the new copy of the filesystem00:55
twb`osmosis: right if you're rsyncing the data over you don't need that, but you DO need to be careful not to lose data re e.g. the selinux context, the bootloader, hard links, sparse files, etc. etc.00:56
osmosisrsync -PSHAVz works.  Just need to make sure I get  /boot parition, /dev /sys /proc setup correctly.00:57
osmosisugh, too bad I cant just run a 'shrink' cmd00:58
osmosismaybe zero's the blocks is easier00:58
twb`osmosis: I don't have an easy answer, sorry01:00
twb`osmosis: good luck!01:00
osmosisThank you01:00
DatzHi, I'd like to have the server stats that are displayed in my ubuntu server box on log in, also displayed in my desktop box.  I'm guessing I could just copy some stuff in /etc/motd/ ?01:33
twb`Datz: /etc/motd.d or /etc/update-motd.d contains scripts that generate the motd in some whizzo magical fashion01:34
* Datz likes magic01:34
Datzoften times I can't reproduce magic though01:34
twb`Datz: IIRC byobu pulls in some good examples from some obscure non-obvious package like unattended-upgrades-common or something01:34
Datzhumm01:35
twb`I have a grudge against update-motd because it was introduced very late in a Debian release cycle and broke things for me01:35
Datzdouble humm01:35
Datzwell thanks twb`, I'll look into these things01:37
twb`Or you could just put it in ~/.profile or so01:37
dustin_hey guys I am new to using 11.10 server had an old box with 8.04 for a while but decided to update the software with moving to a VM, for some reason I cant seem to get drupal happy with apache2 and I cant seem to find the location of the apache config files01:38
Datzmaybe I'll just copy the output from my ubuntu-server and put it in motd.tail and pretend it's updating01:39
twb`dustin_: /etc/apache2/01:39
twb`Datz: hehe01:39
dustin_ty twb01:39
Datztwb`: any reason I wouldn't have such a dir /etc/motd.d/ on my ubuntu server?01:47
twb`Datz: because you haven't installed it01:47
twb`Look, you've forced me to do this01:47
twb`# dpkg -S /etc/update-motd.d/ ==> base-files, update-manager-core, update-notifier-common: /etc/update-motd.d01:47
Datzo_o01:48
Datzwell thanks most helpful sir01:48
twb`# aptitude why update-notifier-common ==> i byobu Recommends update-notifier-common01:48
twb`12:34 <twb`> Datz: IIRC byobu pulls in some good examples from some obscure non-obvious package like unattended-upgrades-common or something01:48
twb`If you're talking about a different file that's on your desktop, use dpkg -S to find out what package provides it, then install that on your server01:49
DatzI now understand what you said!01:49
twb`OK :-)01:49
Datzthanks!01:49
arrrghhhhey all.  i thought there was some apt-get search tool but i can't find it02:38
arrrghhhaptitude search leaves a lot to be desired02:38
arrrghhhhow can i get information about a package?02:38
twb`aptitude search will only look at package names by default; apt-cache search looks at name and description.02:43
arrrghhhapt-cache, that's it02:43
twb`Personally I would suggest aptitude search ~G to look at debtags02:43
arrrghhhi was looking for apt-get cache02:44
arrrghhhok02:44
arrrghhhsudo aptitude search ~G pms-linux02:44
arrrghhhlike that?02:44
twb`No, like aptitude search ~Gncurses~Guse::browsing02:44
twb`Of course this assumes debtags are set up and installed and so on02:45
arrrghhhhrm02:45
arrrghhhall i really want to know is the version that's on the repo02:45
arrrghhhnone of these seem to show that02:45
arrrghhhi thought apt-cache search did02:45
arrrghhhbut it isn't...02:45
twb`What are you actually trying to do?02:45
arrrghhhtrying to find the version of an app on the repo02:46
twb`apt-cache policy <package name>02:46
arrrghhhpolicy... ok02:46
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arrrghhhah, that did it02:46
arrrghhhnever would've guessed that was it...02:46
arrrghhhthanks twb`02:47
austonI'm having problem with internet access from client connected to eth1 and eth0 direct to router03:45
arrrghhhauston, yes...?03:46
twb`auston: either you forgot to NAT or you forgot to ip_forward03:46
austonhow to do that?03:46
twb`magic03:49
twb`Sorry I can't be bothered holding your hand just now03:49
arrrghhhlol03:49
arrrghhhauston, this might help or hurt.  not sure which03:50
arrrghhhhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing03:50
austonThanks. I'll try it out first.03:52
uvirtbotNew bug: #896481 in euca2ools "Euca-unbundle is broken in 11.10" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89648103:58
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uvirtbotNew bug: #898004 in bind9 (main) "post installation script fails with exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89800404:51
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austonCan I use the server for DNS and firewall together?06:11
arrrghhhsure06:12
qman__yes06:12
qman__you need only add a firewall rule to permit DNS queries06:12
austonthanks.06:12
austonI got message asking me whether to install kernel while installing ubuntu server 11.1006:13
smoserjamespage, when you wake up, we would like to have 20111130 cloud-images tested06:42
austonhow to change primary NIC?07:35
austonI have 2 NICs installed.07:35
twbauston: define "primary"07:35
ipl31question regarding orchestra/cobbler, do the settings in the cobbler ui for vlan and bonding work with Ubuntu?07:36
austonhow to do that? What command should I type in?07:36
twbauston: I'm asking you to define *to me*, in Enlish, what you think "primary" means07:41
twb*English07:41
twbauston: because the answer depends on what you're actually trying to do, and I can't guess07:41
SpamapSipl31: look through the pre-seeds / kickstarts ... if the variables aren't used there or in the snippets, then no.07:43
austonI have no idea how to define the "primary"07:44
twbauston: OK, how about you describe what the problem is that you're trying to fix07:45
austonI have installed 2 NICs on the server, only eth0 configured with ip and able to access internet. If i plug-in the LAN cable to eth1, there's no internet access.07:48
twbAnd you want it to work regardless of which is plugged in?07:48
twbOr do you just want it to work for eth1 and not care about eth0?07:49
DavieyGoooooooooooooooooooood morning.07:49
austonThe usage is eth0 will able to access internet and eth1 for DHCP to client07:50
twbauston: so "connection sharing"?07:53
austonyes.07:53
twbOK.07:53
twbHave you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing ?07:54
twbThe short versions is: statically configure eth1; set up MASQUERADE (and perhaps a firewall); enable ip_forward; set up a DHCP server listening on eth1.07:56
austonYes. I have read it. Is working. Now, I'm setting another server exactly the same function but will add-in DHCP, DNS and firewall.07:56
twbAh, OK07:56
twbIf you are prepared to learn how to do firewalling by hand, #netfilter is the best place to talk about that.  As to DHCP and DNS, dnsmasq is a quick and lightweight way to have both -- or you could set up ISC dhcpd and unbound/bind for DNS07:57
twbThe Ubuntu Server Guide is also a good reference for all of the above07:58
austonOk, I'll try out the dnsmasq.07:59
austonhow to install dnsmasq?08:04
ipl31SpamapS: thanks08:10
RoyK!dnsmasq08:13
RoyKauston: google for it...08:13
twbauston: apt-get install dnsmasq08:13
austoni got msg "E: unable to locate package dnsmasq08:21
ipl31ok so it looks like for advanced networking with orchestra I will need to write some shell script snippets for the post command08:24
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austonI managed to install dnsmasq finally :)08:57
koolhead11hi all09:07
jamespagemorning all09:13
jamespagehi koolhead11!09:13
koolhead11hello jamespage09:16
austonhello09:17
austonWat should I do to configure DHCP and DNS after installed dnsmasq?09:38
lynxmanmorning o/09:43
lynxmanjamespage: morning good sir09:43
lynxmankoolhead11: ello! :)09:43
koolhead11hello lynxman :)09:43
jamespagemorning lynxman09:46
koolhead11lynxman: ^^^^Nagios configuration for Orchestra ^^^^09:49
lynxmankoolhead11: are you watching my commits? lol09:52
koolhead11lynxman: subscribed to orchestra :D09:53
lynxmankoolhead11: aaah ;)09:53
SteeveFMXBonjours10:01
koolhead11ttx: that mail was encouraging!! :)10:25
ttxkoolhead11: I happen to know both sides of the fence quite well.10:37
ttxand I learned to understand the value of the fence.10:38
koolhead11ttx: :)10:38
koolhead11ttx: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/888385  Does that mean the bug will be fixed-released with essex?10:45
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 888385 in horizon "Failure when installing Dashboard - python tools/install_venv.py" [High,Confirmed]10:45
ttxdunno, they targeted the fix for E2, so they indicarted that they will fix it soon10:46
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koolhead11ttx: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/897882  solves #88838511:03
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 897882 in quantum "Command 'egg' not found for quantum when running install_venv.py" [Undecided,New]11:03
koolhead11as am not getting same error after modifying my pip-requires with quantum path change :D11:04
* koolhead11 adding comment to the bug11:06
koolhead11with 1 line patch :P11:10
Ursinhagood morning :)11:20
lynxmanUrsinha: bom dia!11:20
koolhead11ttx: done :D11:20
koolhead11hola Ursinha11:20
Ursinhalynxman: :D11:20
Ursinhakoolhead11: hola :)11:20
koolhead11Ursinha: am awesome, how have you been?11:21
Ursinhakoolhead11: great :D11:23
koolhead11awesome!! :D11:24
uvirtbotNew bug: #898124 in libapache2-mod-perl2 (main) "Missing Files for Apache2::SizeLimit in libapache2-mod-perl2 (2.0.5-2 oneiric)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89812412:11
honey_is there any body who can tell me on how to configure the apache on greenstone software on ubuntu?12:25
honey_is there any body who can tell me on how to configure the apache on greenstone software on ubuntu?12:28
RoyKgreenstone?12:29
honey_specialy on assigning the server name12:30
jetoleDoes anyone know how I can configure the dhcp client to provide a static "search" for domains in resolv.conf regardless of what the dhcp server tells it?12:30
ikoniajetole: there are ignore options for dhclient12:32
honey_Royk:it is a software tha can be use for digital libarary12:32
jetoleikonia: well thats useful but is there a way for me to configure certain things for resolv.conf so if it ever gets changed then the client would restore it?12:33
RoyKhoney_: dunno about greenstone, really, but do you just need to configure an apache virtualhost?12:47
honey_Royk:yeah i know it it is open source and what i need is i would like to tell the adress and assighn the name of server12:49
honey_that means  configure an apache virtualhost12:49
ikoniajetole: yes, there are options to ignore certain options that are given from the dhcp server12:52
RoyKhoney_: lemme check12:53
honey_Royk:ok12:54
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nocturnHi13:21
nocturnI installed Ubuntu server on a datacenter host and want to set up KVM networking13:22
nocturninternal network is ok, but one of the hosts needs an external IP.  What settings would I need for that?  I tried over virbr0 but that doesn't work13:22
nocturnServer is running 11.1013:23
derdoktorhi nocturn, "virbr0"? seems you are using libvirt. perhaps virt-manager13:30
nocturnderdoktor: yes, I used virtmanager13:30
nocturnthe NAT networking is already working well13:30
nocturnjust want to give one VM two interfaces, one natted, another a public IP13:31
derdoktorhave you tried bridge-utils?13:31
derdoktortake a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking13:32
derdoktorthe bridge-utils supply with a virtual network switch13:33
smoserjamespage, ping13:38
jamespagesmoser: pong13:39
smoserdid you start some tests ?13:39
jamespagesmoser: not yet13:41
jamespagesmoser: waiting for some firewall access outbound to be fixed up13:41
smoserjamespage, thats fine. just curious, i would lok for them at https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/precise-server-ec2 ?13:42
nocturnderdoktor: do I need to create a second bridge?13:43
jamespagesmoser: yes but we have not run it yet so its not been publised13:43
smoserright.13:43
nocturnhave read that page, but didn't find my answer13:43
derdoktori dont think so13:43
smoserjamespage, so... i guesssed the 'precise' based on browser history with https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/oneiric-server-ec2/13:43
smoserbut that url is also empty, as are all my other history urls... many of which i had supposed were semi-permenant and placed links to them in bugs and such.13:44
zulgood morning13:44
smosers/supposed/assumed/13:45
jamespagesmoser: hmm - looks like someone tidied up13:45
* smoser remembers to never AssUMe13:48
smoserjamespage, utlemming 20111130 and 20111129.2 have the same manifest contents. utlemming had requested 1129.2, i requested 1130. it doesn't really matter but for some reason i like builds without the .X on them. it hides the fact that we scrambled :)13:56
jamespageRoAkSoAx, ping13:59
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koolhead11hola smoser14:28
smoserhey.14:29
smoserhow goes life ?14:29
koolhead11smoser: i have yet not tried solution u asked me to look at, was still doing R&D with my own server image. seems like finally i will look at the wiki :D14:34
smoseri'm not following. i dont think.14:35
koolhead11smoser: i meant https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/Images#Ubuntu_Cloud_Guest_images_on_Local_Hypervisor_Natty_onward :D14:37
ttxmdeslaur, jdstrand: would love to see your opinion on http://fnords.wordpress.com/2011/11/30/improving-nova-privilege-escalation-model-part-3/14:37
ttx(as well as anyone else with a white hat or a python in their closet)14:37
mdeslaurttx: sure, I'll take a look a little later when I have a few minutes14:38
smoserah. ok.14:38
ttxmdeslaur: thanks !14:38
koolhead11ttx: seems like finally openstack project too got attacked by trolls :D14:42
RoAkSoAxjamespage pong14:46
jamespageRoAkSoAx, hey14:46
RoAkSoAxjamespage howdy14:47
ttxkoolhead11: trolls ? where ?14:47
jamespageI think that powernap is causing a few issues with the dell hardwre we have in the lab14:47
jamespageSee https://launchpad.net/bugs/89812714:47
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 898127 in linux "system hangs and errors at /build/buildd/linux-3.2.0/arch/x86/kernel/apic/ipi.c:113 default_send_IPI_mask_logical+0xdc/0xf0()" [Undecided,Confirmed]14:47
jamespageI updated the preseed jibel was using to disable the CPU scaling stuff and the problem went away14:47
jamespageRoAkSoAx: how would you feel about disabling the CPU management by default?14:48
jamespageat least until we can ID what the problem is with this specific hardware....14:48
RoAkSoAxjamespage i thought i did that already14:48
jamespageRoAkSoAx, interesting - this was on precise14:49
RoAkSoAxjamespage: I guess I didn't :)14:50
RoAkSoAxjamespage: yeah the cpu_online script will be turned off by default for now14:51
RoAkSoAxjamespage: thought, can you manually try to turn on half of the cores and see what's the result of doing so?14:51
jamespageRoAkSoAx, TBH we don't really get the change - the server freezes straight away14:52
jamespageI saw similar on oneiric14:52
RoAkSoAxjamespage: yeah it seems to be an issue that started with 3.014:52
RoAkSoAxjamespage: but can you manually remove half of the cores? or juts 1 to see if the problem persists14:52
RoAkSoAxjamespage: it is just for general testing though14:52
jamespageRoAkSoAx: I'll see what we can do14:53
RoAkSoAxjamespage: in reality, i wanna see if this is being caused by turning off *all* but 1 core, or by turning off even 1 single core14:53
DavieyRoAkSoAx: I have ipxe doing our bidding, with a hard coded next-server..14:55
RoAkSoAxDaviey: yeah but that's not what we want, right?14:56
DavieyRoAkSoAx: that is /exactly/ what we want14:57
Daviey(as an option)14:57
DavieyRoAkSoAx: fancy a hangout in 30 mins or so?14:57
RoAkSoAxDaviey: give me a sec14:58
RoAkSoAxDaviey: but pastebin what you did :)14:58
DavieyRoAkSoAx: is going to be easier screensharing i think14:59
zulyes the peanut gallery wants to see what you did (talking about myself)14:59
ikoniaDaviey: I've re-done the dovecot package that failed in 11.10 with the current 12.04 build, I'm rusty on process, who do I submit this to for review15:01
UrsinhaDaviey: I reproduced the glance bug15:02
Ursinhaupgrading natty to oneiric is enough15:02
Davieyikonia: Great, have you done it via bzr or flat packaging?15:03
ikoniaDaviey: local only here on a test box, I can upload into bzr, just wasn't sure of the process, hence asking15:03
ikoniait's been a while since I submitted stuff15:04
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Davieyikonia: Okay, is this to fix the precise package, or oneiric?15:04
ikoniaprecise, once that's ok, I'm going to try (but it looks like it's not worth it) to bring the versions up as a back port for oneiric15:05
ikoniaone thing at a time though15:05
Davieyikonia: okay, as it's not currently in bzr; it's probably going to be better to use debdiff.15:05
DavieySo grab the current precise package, pull-lp-source $package precise ; debdiff current-precise.dsc your-package.dsc15:06
Daviey> your-package.debdiff15:06
RoAkSoAxDaviey: im ready15:06
ikoniaso I just submit the patch, I don't need to worry about the package15:06
ikoniagreat15:06
DavieyIf you then want to pastebin what you have, we'll take a quick look.. ?15:07
ikoniathank you15:07
DavieyRoAkSoAx: I have another call starting right now15:07
ikoniaI shall once I've done the process, on the wrong box here15:07
Davieyikonia: yep, the patch is what matters more15:07
RoAkSoAxDaviey: plop :)15:07
iclebyteis there an isc-dhcpd channel on freenode?15:10
koolhead11iclebyte: what is your issue?15:12
koolhead11dhcp related?15:12
iclebytewe are trialing a new fibre deployment. we need to give out IP's from a pool based on the agent.remote-id and agent.circuit-id values - we have class matching working using 'options host-name' but we can't seem to find the correct agent.remote-id values. is there a way to tell bind to log them to syslog?15:14
capetahow can i do to prevent a package from being installed/updated ?15:32
Davieyadam_g: around?16:03
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UrsinhaDaviey: so, glance package has a bug, I could reproduce it17:26
UrsinhaDaviey: with whom should I talk to about it? I know where it's failing but not sure what should be the correct behaviour there17:26
Ursinhabug 88398817:26
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 883988 in glance "package glance 2011.3-0ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88398817:26
UrsinhaDaviey: hello :)17:29
Davieyhello17:29
DavieyUrsinha: you are seeing that same issue?17:30
Davieyzul: ^^ did you see that?17:30
UrsinhaDaviey: yes17:32
UrsinhaDaviey: problem is when glance is running postinstall script, and it tries to migrate the glance db17:32
Ursinhathe migration script tries to create tables that the sqlite db already have17:33
Ursinhaso it breaks17:33
Daviey:(17:34
DavieyUrsinha: this is probably one for zul..17:34
DavieyUrsinha: is this clean install or upgrade from oneiric to precise?17:34
UrsinhaDaviey: steps: installed natty, apt-get update/upgrade, installed glance, dist-upgraded to oneiric17:35
Davieyah17:35
DavieyUrsinha: lets see zul's comments when he returns17:35
UrsinhaDaviey: that's the same scenario of the dupes I've spotted17:35
UrsinhaI marked them all as dupes then17:35
UrsinhaDaviey: so, is it reasonable to create an oneiric task for that bug?17:37
UrsinhaI think so17:38
DavieyUrsinha: yes please!17:43
Ursinha:)17:43
zulDaviey: gah...k17:45
zulDaviey Urisinha: havent seen it recently but ill try to put some logic in the packaging17:47
Davieyzul: i understood that the upgrade process wasn't safe for glance17:53
Davieyit was different to nova17:53
zulDaviey: maybe it got fixed17:53
Davieyoh17:54
UrsinhaUrisinha is new... have to add to hilight list :P17:54
zulUrsinha: heh cloud is not so fluffy sometimes17:54
Ursinhaanyway we'll need to SRU that, right?17:54
Ursinhaif it's fixed, I wonder why the bug isn't indicating that... do you know zul?17:55
zulUrsinha: im double checking17:55
zulUrsinha: it should be17:55
Ursinhazul: by fixed you mean what?17:56
Ursinhaupstream fixed? packaged and uploaded somewhere?17:56
zulUrsinha: sorry upstream fixed17:56
Ursinhahow do we indicate that in the bug?17:57
zulUrsinha: good question :)17:57
zulUrsinha: i usually say "This should be fixed in the new release of Essex please test and re-open if this is not the case"17:57
Ursinhazul: so, what we need to do to fix it in ubuntu? bring the fix/package? I have no idea how this works, so, sorry the silly question :)18:01
zulUrsinha: now worries we will have to nail down the bug but going through the upstream fix and backport it, its might be fixed in the release ill be doing for oneiric as soon as we get through the paperwork for doing a stable release for glance18:03
zulUrsinha: ill take care of it18:04
Ursinhazul: okay :) I'll find something else to try fixing then :)18:05
zulUrsinha: i would start with something small18:06
adam_gDaviey: here18:07
UrsinhaDaviey: point me something small18:07
Davieyadam_g: hey, can't really do it right now - hoped to have a catch up18:07
DavieyUrsinha: something small... my will to live? :)18:08
UrsinhaDaviey: man... shut up18:09
Ursinhahaha18:09
DavieyUrsinha: so, bug 894754 isn't too bad18:11
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 894754 in openvswitch "openvswitch_mod module not found" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89475418:11
DavieyThe Depends are not right, which isn't pulling in the -dkms package when needed18:11
hallyndrat, there was jsut a very tiny bug (in terms of fix) in qemu-kvm, i almost asked here if anyone wanted to do it18:12
hallyn(but didn't)18:12
Ursinha:)18:12
UrsinhaDaviey: so... just adding the dependency should fix it?18:15
Ursinhahallyn: is the bug there yet? :P18:15
hallynsorry, what do you mean?18:15
hallynthe fix?18:16
hallynif so, yeah, i posted the debdiff on the bug (bc we're in freeze so i didn't want to push it :)18:16
hallynbut i bet there are other bitsize ones in the virt stack we can find if you're bored after the vswitch one :)18:17
* hallyn goes to try a change to compiz, we'll see if i get dropped :)18:18
Davieyhallyn: Are you free to help Ursinha with the openvswitch one if she needs it?18:18
Ursinhahallyn: the small bug you mentioned18:18
Ursinhaif it's available to be fixed18:18
Ursinhaokay :)18:18
hallynDaviey, Ursinha: yeah, it's lunchtime now, but i can help with the openvswitch one in a bit if you like18:20
Ursinhahallyn: I'd love to :)18:21
Ursinhathanks!18:21
Davieyhallyn: thanks18:27
UrsinhaDaviey: I think I can't add a distrotask18:28
Ursinha?18:28
Ursinharelease task?18:29
UrsinhaI forgot how to call that18:29
DavieyUrsinha: go for it :)18:35
koolhead17Daviey: you have sometime today for sqlite bug fix. :)18:36
philipsmattohi guys, can you help me to configure iptables well, please?18:36
Resistancephilipsmatto, define "configure well"18:37
Resistancebecause what I'd call a decent configuration and set of rules another would call it crap18:37
Resistanceas well, the confiugration is dependent on what exactly you want it to do18:37
Resistancei.e. what you want allowed, what you want to block, etc.18:38
philipsmattookok excuse me, i have small LAMP server that i must use for webserver18:38
philipsmattoi18:38
philipsmattowould like18:39
philipsmattothat my server will + secure18:39
Davieykoolhead17: I do not today, but maybe someone else can helo?18:40
Davieysmoser: ^^?18:40
philipsmattonow iptables is defoul18:40
Resistance!enter | philipsmatto18:40
ubottuphilipsmatto: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!18:40
Resistancehmm18:40
philipsmattook excuse me18:40
Resistancephilipsmatto, whats your primary language?  english?18:40
Resistanceor something else18:40
smoserDaviey, sure. whats up koolhead17 ?18:40
* Resistance doesnt think its english but isnt sure18:40
philipsmattotrue18:41
philipsmattoi'm italian18:41
Resistanceah18:41
Resistanceexplains the english then18:41
koolhead17smoser: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/87526218:41
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 875262 in php5 "PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/sqlite.so'" [High,Confirmed]18:41
Resistancephilipsmatto, what i do with *just web servers* is i block all external traffic that is not coming in on the ports necessary for the web server18:41
Resistancephilipsmatto, for instance, ports 80 and 443 are opened, but not much else.18:42
koolhead17i worked on this and tried few things. last time Daviey suggested we can work on it with screen as even am new to it. :)18:42
Resistanceas well, ssh is open on a nonstandard port because my servers are offsite18:42
Resistancebut not much else is opened to the world18:42
smoseroh.. shoot. i dont really have time for that right now, as i'd have to even come up to speed on that bug.18:42
uvirtbotNew bug: #898289 in open-vm-tools (multiverse) "open-vm-dkms 2011.07.19-450511-0ubuntu2: open-vm-tools kernel module failed to build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89828918:43
Resistancephilipsmatto, there's about ten thousand different "good configurations" but for basic yet somewhat secure, you can block all traffic except for that you identify18:43
Resistanceas okay18:43
Resistanceaw crud, stupid enter key... >.>18:43
koolhead17smoser: ok.18:43
Resistancephilipsmatto, is this a VPS or an actual Ubuntu box you own?18:44
Davieysmoser: thanks anyway18:44
philipsmattoi have one server at home, it's a old pc18:45
Resistanceok18:45
Resistancephilipsmatto, give me about a minute18:45
Resistanceso i can write up the list of stuff you'd need to execute for iptables18:45
Resistancephilipsmatto, oh, and one last question... do you plan on rebooting this computer often, or shutting it down often?18:46
philipsmattoyes yes18:46
Resistanceyes to which?  shutting it down often?18:46
Resistance(aka rebooting)18:46
philipsmattoyep18:47
Resistanceok18:47
Resistancegimme a few seconds18:48
philipsmattookok tnk u!18:48
ResistanceDaviey, i've got Ubuntu Desktop running on my server instance, so i have if-up/if-down scripts which autoload and autosave iptables...  do you know of any easier method of making iptables.rules persistently loaded?18:49
koolhead17jamespage: whats up with java in your twitter handle :D18:49
Resistance(i.e. on boot)18:49
koolhead17!iptable18:50
koolhead17Resistance: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/firewall.html  see if this helps.18:51
Resistancekoolhead17, ok thanks18:52
philipsmattoResistance but if i don't shutdown, remain the config?18:52
Resistancephilipsmatto, yes that's true.  but i have a method that will allow it to autoload the rules on boot.18:52
philipsmattotrue18:52
Resistancephilipsmatto, first, install the iptables-persistent package (in terminal: sudo apt-get install iptables-persistent)18:52
Resistancephilipsmatto, now gimme a sec to upload this thing somewhere...18:53
koolhead17Resistance: check for shorewall, things will be much easier 4 you :D18:53
Resistancekoolhead17, i already have iptables configured18:53
philipsmattotrnk a lot!!18:53
Resistancethis is for philipsmatto who asked how to set up iptables as their firewall with  a "good" config18:53
philipsmattoResistance but olther Iptables, i must install olther firewall or no?18:56
Resistancephilipsmatto, if you're asking whether you need a different firewall if you dont want to use iptables, then yes.  there are easier firewalls to use, though.18:56
Resistance(fwiw, I prefer iptables, but i'm old school)18:57
Resistance(and i remembered half of the iptables man page)18:57
philipsmatto:) okok18:57
Resistancephilipsmatto, i assume you have superuser on the box which is the server?  (i.e. sudo or root access)18:58
philipsmattotrue18:58
philipsmattoattend18:59
Resistanceokay, then as superuser create the file /etc/iptables.rules18:59
Resistanceand put inside that file the content of this: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=r2sYd2bK18:59
Resistanceor...18:59
Resistanceyou can *try* to wget that18:59
Resistancebut it might not work that way19:00
Resistancehuh actually that did work *shrugs*19:00
philipsmattonow i can't doing,  wrriting notes19:02
philipsmatto*writing19:02
philipsmattoand stop?19:02
philipsmattolater this operation i don't must doing nothing?19:04
Resistanceafter you've done that, you'll need to do (as superuser) iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.rules19:04
Resistanceassuming you saved the file in /etc/19:04
ResistanceWHOAH lag spike19:04
* Resistance just lagged19:04
Resistancethen i *believe* that iptables-persistent will keep the rules in future19:05
* Resistance hasnt tested this in depth19:05
philipsmattookok trnks u a lot!!!!!19:07
philipsmattobut with this configuration , Iptables  block DDoS attack?19:08
Resistancenot much defends against DDoS19:12
Resistancebut its far less likely they'll be able to hit your critical items19:13
Resistancemaybe your web server19:13
Resistancebut not much else19:13
l0nhttp://www.riorey.com/19:13
l0nuse them for ddos, might cost a bit though ;)19:14
jMCgFor, or against?19:15
l0nto defend against it19:15
* RoyK is somewhat sceptical19:16
RoyKl0n: if a 100k node botnet attacks your site, how will they defend it?19:17
l0nRoyK Not sure if they do DDoS protection as a service or not, if they do, I suspect you could get your IPs routed via them and they'll take care of it19:18
l0nIf not then 100k would probably fill up your pipe so yeah, no device would protect you19:19
l0nunless you had a really really really really fat pipe19:19
RoyKand if you can live through a 100k node attack, what about that 10M node attack?19:20
RoyKsome botnets are BIG19:20
l0nidd, well you need DDoS as a service but like I say, it'll cost ya an arm & a leg19:20
sarthorhow to reload squid in 11.10 ? /etc/init.d/squid/ reload is not working19:20
l0nRoyK not every DDoS is that big though, I used to work for a hosting provider that got DDoSed a lot and the protection they had did the job19:21
philipsmattoexcuse me , but for defender my website, what i doing?19:21
sarthori did service squid reload  but i did  not saw any change in tail -f /var/log/syslog19:22
philipsmatto?19:23
l0nphilipsmatto make sure you block all ports apart from those required e.g. http and ensure you keep your externally accessible services up to date and locked down19:23
l0nyou may also want to consider running the site in a chrooted env, using selinux or easier way is to run it in a virtual machine. This is to minimise damage in the event that you get hacked.19:23
l0nyou might also want to use an application layer firewall like mod security19:24
philipsmattoeh, this19:25
philipsmattowhich use?19:25
l0nphilipsmatto: sorry, I don't understand what you mean19:25
Resistancel0n, i helped him with iptables19:26
Resistancel0n, there's a -j REJECT rule at the end19:26
Resistanceof the INPUT table19:26
Resistanceit acts as a catch-all-other-crapo19:26
Resistanceif it doesnt match the first rules, the system sends the REJECT packet19:27
Resistanceand in the config19:27
Resistanceonly port 80 is open to the universe19:27
philipsmattoexcuse me, you are right, i would like say: which do i use?19:27
Resistancewhich what?19:27
Resistancefirewall?19:27
philipsmatto mod19:27
Resistance"mod"?19:28
RoyKphilipsmatto: for most use, just use ufw19:28
philipsmatto' you might also want to use an application layer firewall like mod security'19:28
philipsmattomod security19:28
Resistanceah apache mod security19:28
Resistance:P19:28
Resistancei'd listen to RoyK then, and work wtih ufw19:29
Resistancein which case they can help ya undo the iptables stuff and set you up with ufw19:29
Resistanceme, i've got classes19:29
* Resistance runs because he's 12 minutes late19:29
RoyKResistance: if the shit hits the fan and someone DoS you or get nasty somehow, well, add more layers of security19:29
ResistanceRoyK, hehe, "Secuirty in Depth" doesnt always work19:29
philipsmattoi knew19:30
RoyKResistance: place an unpatched windows machine somewhere on the server farm and wait...19:30
ResistanceRoyK hehe19:31
Resistancewould it surprise you the Feds do that?19:31
* Resistance points at this server he was fixing prior to realizing he was late to class19:32
* RoyK just setup five 2x12core machines in an MPI cluster and finds it works :D19:32
philipsmattoResistance, i  must just  install apache mod security and your configuration?  So my server is safe?19:33
Resistancephilipsmatto, one thing to realize... servers are never 100% safe19:34
Resistancethe only safe server is not connected to the network, and is not connected to the internet19:34
Resistancetherefore a standalone machine that is safe from external threats19:34
Resistancebut the iptables rules that i gave you are pretty solid19:35
Resistanceand since i dont use apache i cant help you with mod security ;P19:35
* Resistance uses nginx web server19:35
l0nResistance, just out of interest, does nginx have something like mod security?19:36
* RoyK doubts it19:36
Resistancel0n, not sure, i could check.  but fwiw, my sites i run on it are behind a hardware firewall and therefore arent exposed to the internet19:36
Resistancebut i do use nginx for everything ;P19:36
Resistanceexcept ASP crap... that, i'm forced to use a windows server for19:36
l0nbut you've got port 80 open on your hw firewall haven't you or you mean it's an internal web server?19:36
RoyKl0n: nginx is very light-weight, quite the opposite of apache, which is more like an operating system in comparison19:36
philipsmattoport 8019:36
philipsmattoport 80 is request for redirect (with DNS)19:37
l0nhehe idd Royk19:37
Resistancel0n, [INTERNET] -> HardwareFireWall -> network19:37
Resistancebut the hw firewall doesnt have a port 80 rule19:37
Resistanceat least not for the nginx webserver itself19:37
l0nso your web server is for internal use only?19:37
Resistancemhm19:38
RoyK- Emacs is a decent operating system, but it lacks a good editor...19:38
Resistancewell... the one which i truly give a crap about, yes19:38
Resistance<l0n> Resistance, just out of interest, does nginx have something like mod security?  <--- answer: no19:38
barcefHow do I turn my hosted ubuntu server(w/ public IP) into an HTTP PROXY server?19:39
RoyKbarcef: apt-get install squid19:39
philipsmattoResistance, how u connect your WEBSERVER with doman without port 80?19:39
Resistancephilipballew, the thing runs its own DNS server off of a 10.x.x.x internal network IP19:39
RoyKbarcef: but then, there are different types of proxy servers and ...19:39
Resistancephilipballew, so if i type "webserver.foobar.baz" it'll route the requests to 10.x.x.x19:40
l0nAh ok, that explains why ppl run Apache and Nginx I suppose19:40
Resistancesince all systems on the internal net of mine have that servers's DNS IP stored19:40
barcefRoyK,  How would I tell what type I need? I need to route my nintendo wii though my server in the US to get my netflix in english.19:40
Resistancemore like hardwired... but meh19:40
Resistancephilipballew, for the internal networked server, there's an iptables firewall rule that has port 80 open19:41
RoyKbarcef: that'll be a normal front proxy - squid is good for that19:41
Resistancephilipballew, but that server isnt shown to the universe outside the internal net19:41
RoyKbarcef: just install it and edit /etc/squid/squid.conf (read the comments)19:41
Resistancephilipballew, the trekweb server, though, for trekweb.org, ituses nginx but is offsite and internet-facing19:42
barcefRoyK, ahh.. thanks man... thats awesome.19:42
philipsmattothanks a lot19:48
philipsmattoResistence :)19:49
philipsmattoI owe you a favor19:51
philipsmattoGuys i must goind19:58
hallynUrsinha, sorry, got carried away w a patch review.  how is bug 894754 treating you?19:58
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 894754 in openvswitch "openvswitch missing -datapath-dkms dependency, fails to install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89475419:58
philipsmattotrnks a lot!!!!19:58
Ursinhahallyn: I'm trying to reproduce in precise to see where to start19:59
Ursinhareproducing in precise implies downloading iso and so on, so taking a while now :)19:59
hallynbleh, i see :)19:59
hallyni'll start the same19:59
hallyn(waiting for victim stack instance to spin up)20:00
Ursinha:)20:01
hallynUrsinha, if you look at the commit msg for 1.2.1-3, that sounds like actually a good alternative20:09
hallynoh!  the bug was reported on oneiric?  so that actually is the fix we want20:10
hallyn(oneiric is on 1.2.0-1ubuntu1)20:10
hallynUrsinha, so, do a : "pull-lp-source openvswitch; pull-lp-source openvswitch oneiric", and then look at the diff in debian/openvswitch-switch.init between both versions20:12
hallynUrsinha, this should also mean that it can be marked fixed released, and affecting oneiric20:13
Ursinhahallyn: yeah, but do you think it should just not fail instead of adding another dependency that would actually build it? (if I understood the problem well)20:14
Ursinhadoes that mean the package doesn't need the module to work?20:14
hallyngah, would my wm pls stop resetting when i get popups?20:15
hallynUrsinha, yeah, was the original idea.  It seems perhaps less safe depending on how robust the dkms building is20:16
Ursinhahm, right20:16
Ursinhawhat do you mean by safe?20:17
Ursinhawon't hilight you so your wm won't reset :)20:17
hallynwell if it fails 20% of the time to build,20:17
hallynthanks :)20:17
hallyneh, you're probably right, should probably be recommended:20:18
hallynbut see, i just tried to install the dkms and got20:19
hallynError! Your kernel headers for kernel 3.2.0-2-virtual cannot be found.20:19
hallyn 20:19
hallyn:)20:19
Ursinhaisn't that a problem in dkms package? :)20:19
hallynso, the package install would then still fail.  I think I see the real bug in openvswitch-switch as being that package update fails (making future updates noisier).20:20
hallynit's a problem inherent indkms i think - it's complaining bc the running kernel is older than the one that came in the current-headers pkg20:20
UrsinhaI don't like that much20:20
Ursinha*that that20:20
hallynheh, if we could just get vswitch into upstream kernel we wouldn't need to do dkms :)20:21
Ursinha:)20:21
Ursinhado we need the module for that package?20:21
hallynwhat do you mean?20:21
hallynyeah, it's needed, so yes it should be Recommended20:21
Ursinhaif openvswitch_mod is needed for that openvswitch-switch package is meant to, so it's required, no?20:22
hallynyup20:22
Ursinhado it's a dependency and not just a recommendation?20:23
Ursinhas/do/so/20:23
UrsinhaI guess I see the problem you are pointing20:24
Ursinhait's required, but module building is likely to fail, so better recommend and try and not break instead of creating problems for the average of users..20:25
hallynthat *was* my point, but it's only half valid.20:25
jamespageDaviey: iscsi testing completed20:26
hallyni think you should both make it Depend, and backport the fix to the init script20:26
Davieyjamespage: you rock star!20:26
Ursinhahallyn: right!20:27
Ursinhaoops, sorry20:27
Ursinha:S20:27
hallynheh, np, it's not being uppity right now20:28
hallynUrsinha, so let me know if you have any questions on proceeding.  if you want me too look at the debdiff poke me.20:32
Ursinhasure, thanks!20:32
hallynman qemu-linaro build takes HOURS20:33
jamespageDaviey: this might be a stoopid question but is there a reason why I get the -generic kernel on amd64 server installs?20:35
Davieyjamespage: hmm, good question.. Probably a better one to throw to apw or smb tomorrow.20:40
apwjamespage, that is because the -server and -generic configurations have been merged20:41
apwjamespage, they were almost identicle anyhow, so for now the linux-server meta points to linux-image-generic20:41
Davieyapw: So that is what i thought, but there still seems to be a -server kernel?20:47
Resistanceis it a pseudopackage?20:47
Resistanceor does it actually provide something?20:47
ResistanceDaviey, ^20:47
Resistance(the -server kernel package)20:47
apwlinux-image-*-server ? Daviey i can't see it20:49
Davieygrr, might help if i wasn't looking at oneiric20:50
DavieyRoAkSoAx: hmm, seems we can also pass an initrd to ipxe, which is a flat script - rather than tagging onto the cmd line.20:59
zuljamespage: hey do you have instructions to setup iscsi for the iso testing?21:06
patdk-wkzul, sorry, I had been running those tests, but internet been bouncing around all day :(21:10
zulpatdk-wk: do you have instructions to setup iscsi?21:10
patdk-wkinstructions? not really, I have my enviroment setup for iscsi though21:11
zulwith iscsitarget right?21:11
patdk-wkheh?21:12
patdk-wkI meant iscsi root21:12
jamespagezul: http://paste.ubuntu.com/755364/21:15
zuljamespage: heh...i love you21:16
patdk-wkso it is iscsi root info you wanted, but I don't use iscsitarget for my iscsi server21:17
jamespageand http://paste.ubuntu.com/755366/ into virsh21:17
jamespagezul: http://paste.ubuntu.com/755368/ to grab the kernel and initrd for the authenticated test for reboot21:18
patdk-wkthat is extreemly annoying21:18
patdk-wkgpxe chainload iscsi boot21:18
b0gatyrjoin #windows-server21:20
lynxmanb0gatyr: right now!21:23
RoAkSoAxDaviey: really? cuase for what I read it wasn't possible in the old one. But it would be cool if we could21:28
koolhead17lol lynxman21:33
uvirtbotNew bug: #898365 in cloud-init (main) "cloud-config mount of '[swap, null ]' not handled correctly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89836521:36
smoserRoAkSoAx, jamespage adam_g zul SpamapS anyone...21:38
smoseranything you all tihnk should be release noted21:39
smoserfor alpha-121:39
smoserutlemming, ^21:39
smosereither known issues or new function/notable things.21:39
zulnada21:41
DavieyRoAkSoAx: yeah, i just went through the mailing list archives, it landed this month21:41
backburnerso after I use orchestra to install my server , what is the default username and password??21:41
adam_gsmoser: hmm. squid to squid3 migratin?21:43
Davieysmoser: New Upstream cobbler snapshot, based on 2.2.2 .. openstack components based on Essex 2.21:43
smoserat this point we're not filtering anything out21:44
smoseras the list is... um... 3 items at the moment21:44
backburnerI don't see where I can set a username and password in cobbler/orchestra21:44
backburnerso I have this shinny new server loaded but I can't login without purgeing the password21:44
Davieysmoser: Are you adding to the release notes for the cloud images, the nic issue?21:45
smoseri suppose we can add it as a known issue.21:45
smoserthe only real issue is that the images are then 120M populated larger than they would be.21:45
smoserbut we should probably note it.21:45
adam_gbackburner: login to what? a newly provisioned system or cobbler itself?21:45
Davieyhallyn: So i plan to do a new upstream snapshot of ipxe21:55
hallyn:(21:55
Davieydoes this impact you?21:55
backburneranyone using orchestra?21:55
hallynDaviey:  it shouldn't  :)21:55
hallynDaviey, you could add my debdiff into your merge...21:56
Davieybackburner: yes21:56
Davieybackburner: Ah, if you are using the default preseed; the username and password is both ubuntu.21:56
Daviey(secure eh?)21:56
backburnerahh thanks , will try that!21:56
Davieyrocking21:57
Davieybackburner: Things are changing for precise btw :)21:57
hallynDaviey,what i was waiting on was lp:~serge-hallyn/ubuntu/precise/ipxe/kvm-pxe-in-ipxe/ merge21:57
Davieyhallyn: Mine can stack on yours, don't need to block on me21:58
RoAkSoAxDaviey: btw.. is redhat-cluster seeded?21:58
Daviey(once freeze lifts)21:58
hallynDaviey, it's a pretty superficial patch, go ahead and do it and i'll rebase21:58
hallynDaviey, after this cycle, i think i want to spend some time pushing on getting it so UDD can be used reliably for qemu-kvm and libvirt21:59
hallyncause if i could just stage fixes there i wouldn't have this problem21:59
Davieyhallyn: right, is UDD still broken for them?22:00
hallyn(pushing as in, trying ot understand th eproblem)22:00
hallynyeah.  i thought it was supposed to be fixed, but doesn't appear to be22:00
DavieyRoAkSoAx: redhat-cluster-suite is on server-ship22:00
backburnerdaviey where can you set the inital user/password?22:00
RoAkSoAxDaviey: so I won't be able to mess with post the freeze?22:01
hallynMost recent Ubuntu Precise version: 0.15.0+noroms-0ubuntu622:01
hallynPackaging branch version: 0.14.0+noroms-0ubuntu822:01
hallynDaviey, ^ :(22:01
Davieybackburner: try, /var/lib/cobbler/kickstarts/orchestra.preseed22:01
Davieyhallyn: :(22:02
RoAkSoAxDaviey: zul I think we'll also need to add user/password fields for each system so that users can change them22:02
ninjixDaviey: that would be a nice new feature for the passwords22:02
Davieyhallyn: urgh, http://package-import.ubuntu.com/status/qemu-kvm.html22:03
Davieyyep22:03
uvirtbotNew bug: #898373 in cloud-init (main) "fsck.ext3: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/xvda2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89837322:06
ninjixinstalling server via alternate using a giant monitor. Have to look away from the purple and orange every few minutes to color adjust my eyes? :)22:06
ninjixanyone experienced this before? it's quite a trip.22:09
ninjixwhole room is purple :)22:09
Davieyheh22:10
ninjixcoworkers keep coming over to see what's making all the light.22:11
hallynwtf?  /usr is group writeable...22:16
skaetsmoser, utlemming - what's the status with the cloud images for the release?22:43
utlemmingskaet: I think they are good, but let me double check22:44
utlemmingthe testing only started a few hours ago22:44
utlemming(due to problems with IP addresses)22:44
skaetutlemming, thanks,  silence was starting to worry me.  :)22:44
utlemmingskaet: looking good so far (https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Precise/job/precise-server-ec2/) there are still some tests to complete, but I'm not seeing anything that would preclude launching it22:49
skaetutlemming,  thanks.  :)22:49
adam_gzul: ping23:04
zuladam_g: whats up23:30
adam_gzul: hey23:33
zuladam_g: hilo23:34
adam_gzul:  i was lookin at glance wrt to bug 88398823:34
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 883988 in glance "db migration failing when upgrading glance - trying to create existing tables" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88398823:34
zuladam_g: ok23:34
adam_gzul: that predates me. :) where'd the logic around 'db_sync' come from?  the upstream packaging or us? i see the same thing in the nova packaging as well, and wonder what the reasoning is23:35
zuladam_g: upstream packaging im pretty sure23:37
zulit creates the database23:38
adam_gwell23:38
adam_git migrates the database, it doesn't create23:38
adam_gim curious to know the reason why it only attempts to do so for connections that are not sqlite23:39
zuladam_g: i think predates me as well :)23:40
adam_gah23:40
zulsince im not the one who wrote it23:40
adam_gzul: lp:~openstack-ubuntu-packagers is where all of that work has lived, right?23:43
zulright all the upstream stuff is there23:43
zulall the ubuntu stuff is at ubuntu-server-dev23:43
adam_ghttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~openstack-ubuntu-packagers/glance/ubuntu/revision/2923:46

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