| pleia2 | erg, formatting of my emails has been all wonky lately, stupid gmail | 00:30 |
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| pleia2 | keeps getting all squished together in spite of me sending it with proper line breaks | 00:31 |
| Unit193 | pleia2: But you didn't sign it, how do I know it's from you? ;) | 01:35 |
| pleia2 | knome: hmm, did you ever hear back from IS about the latest revision? (I see it was submitted 10 days ago, but no updates) | 04:41 |
| pleia2 | (and yes, I know you're sleeping :)) | 04:41 |
| ochosi | meh, why can't i set the bug-status of bug #897912 to wontfix? | 08:26 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 897912 in murrine-themes (Ubuntu) "Draggable window borders too narrow in greybird" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/897912 | 08:26 |
| knome | pleia2, they pulled rev 5's to production already | 11:41 |
| knome | pleia2, asked them at #canonical-sysadmin | 11:41 |
| ochosi | knome: thanks for the comment on the bugreport, i wanted to add that but then forgot | 12:12 |
| scott-work | good morning :) | 12:52 |
| madnick | morning! | 12:55 |
| scott-work | how are you this morning madnick? | 13:36 |
| scott-work | oh, madnick, weren't you working on the lightdm greeter theme? any idea when that will be pushed to the repos? | 13:37 |
| madnick | scott-work: soon :) we are discussing the apperence and similar things :) | 13:45 |
| astraljava | Anyone in here knows anything about device entries for SD cards on a card reader? Why they get different device entry mappings sometimes, and how can I force it some particular entry, if it's available? | 14:10 |
| astraljava | My google-fu doesn't seem to help now. | 14:10 |
| GridCube | astraljava: i think it takes it like an usb drive | 14:12 |
| GridCube | i don't know if this could help you http://www.basicconfig.com/linux/mount | 14:14 |
| astraljava | GridCube: It wouldn't, as I'm not interested in mounting the device. I just want to have it in one particular device entry, specifically /dev/sdb | 14:15 |
| GridCube | mmmhm | 14:15 |
| GridCube | so you can get its uuid | 14:16 |
| GridCube | and add it to fstab | 14:16 |
| GridCube | ? | 14:16 |
| GridCube | no, that would be for particular memories and not for slots | 14:16 |
| astraljava | And still, fstab deals with mounting a certain device entry to a mount point. It's too late at that point. | 14:18 |
| GridCube | mmmhm and this? http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/127 | 14:19 |
| astraljava | Again, too late. They already have device entries at that time, and they talk about automounting the devices regardless of their entry. | 14:21 |
| GridCube | mmmkay, what about this? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Map_Custom_Device_Entries_with_udev | 14:21 |
| astraljava | I'm not sure you're seeing the problem here. The device is seemingly randomly mapped to different device entry. udev deals with the entry according to some signals/messages it receives _only_ after the mapping has been done. It's already too late at that point. | 14:23 |
| GridCube | oh, okay, i though you needed to tell a card reader what device locations assing to particular slots | 14:24 |
| astraljava | Yeah, sorry I might have asked in a confusing manner. | 14:26 |
| GridCube | so, astraljava, this wont help either http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html#example-usbcardreader ? | 14:28 |
| charlie-tca | GridCube: looks like we got the same thing out of UDS again. All agreed in person, reality after is we will have to track daily testing ourselves in precise | 14:28 |
| GridCube | :o | 14:28 |
| GridCube | but i started tracking on qa already | 14:28 |
| GridCube | :D but then again i did just one test :P | 14:29 |
| madnick | astraljava: is the kernel name the same for the device everytime? | 14:29 |
| madnick | (it sorta should be) | 14:29 |
| charlie-tca | milestones are tracked on QA tester, daily for us is not | 14:30 |
| GridCube | charlie-tca: :/ well... they are | 14:30 |
| GridCube | at least they where till yesterday | 14:31 |
| GridCube | haven't check today | 14:31 |
| charlie-tca | really? Did I look at the wrong report? | 14:31 |
| charlie-tca | This week is alpha1 testing, it is different | 14:32 |
| GridCube | http://91.189.93.73/qatracker/milestones/204/builds/7196/testcases/138/results | 14:32 |
| charlie-tca | We will see after Friday | 14:32 |
| charlie-tca | Um, that is "milestones", not daily | 14:33 |
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| madnick | charlie-tca: they did tell us that, they will look at our needs aswell, and that we shouldnt need to have our own system | 14:36 |
| Gridcube | sorry | 14:36 |
| charlie-tca | I know, I was there | 14:36 |
| charlie-tca | Um, that is "milestones", not daily | 14:36 |
| Gridcube | i had to reloging | 14:36 |
| Gridcube | but it says daily :( | 14:36 |
| charlie-tca | qatracker/milestones... | 14:37 |
| charlie-tca | We will see next week, then | 14:37 |
| charlie-tca | They have been tracking Ubuntu daily testing all month, though | 14:38 |
| Gridcube | charlie-tca: i would guess thats just a name that didnt got changed | 14:39 |
| charlie-tca | okay | 14:39 |
| charlie-tca | so who is testing this alpha1 that must be done today? | 14:40 |
| Gridcube | i could ask the guy on #ubuntu-release , he has been really nice to us :) | 14:40 |
| Gridcube | the tracker has almost all amd64 tests done, i will starts some i386 one now | 14:41 |
| charlie-tca | never mind. today the priority is to test the alpha1 image if we plan to have it | 14:41 |
| charlie-tca | um, there are NO alternate tests done | 14:41 |
| charlie-tca | are we only going to have desktop cd? | 14:42 |
| Gridcube | i will do alternate | 14:42 |
| Gridcube | thats the only ISO i have | 14:42 |
| madnick | I've not been able to test anything this week | 14:42 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 14:42 |
| charlie-tca | This is more important than daily tests' | 14:43 |
| Gridcube | :) | 14:43 |
| charlie-tca | I had a good vacation. Am I still here? | 14:43 |
| Gridcube | :D | 14:45 |
| Gridcube | you are | 14:45 |
| madnick | Welcome back =) | 14:46 |
| Gridcube | how do i use the "enviromental variable" http://linux.die.net/man/1/zsync | 14:47 |
| Gridcube | \o/ yay! success! | 14:54 |
| Gridcube | zsync now works | 14:54 |
| Gridcube | at 1kbs | 14:54 |
| Gridcube | :( | 14:54 |
| Gridcube | :o i already had the latest image :D | 14:56 |
| Gridcube | starting alternate i386 tests | 14:57 |
| charlie-tca | I don't use the environment variable | 14:57 |
| charlie-tca | running 64 bit tests here | 14:58 |
| Gridcube | :) | 14:59 |
| Gridcube | charlie-tca: mid if i ask you to test something? | 15:04 |
| Gridcube | i basically want to know if its a bug or noot | 15:04 |
| charlie-tca | go ahead | 15:04 |
| Gridcube | when i installed xubuntu on my netbook the alternate cd did not saw any of my network devices | 15:05 |
| Gridcube | so it directly stop me from installing xubuntu | 15:05 |
| charlie-tca | correct | 15:05 |
| Gridcube | i could not continue the installation without a network device | 15:05 |
| Gridcube | i don't know if thats a bug ir not | 15:05 |
| charlie-tca | it can't see them because networking is not active until the install finishes | 15:06 |
| Gridcube | when i used the desktop cd it did recognized both | 15:06 |
| charlie-tca | Desktop cd when installing from the desktop has networking active | 15:06 |
| charlie-tca | From the menu, it should be just like the alternate cd | 15:07 |
| Gridcube | mmm thats weird because on my desktop when using the alternate it does recognizes the wired network | 15:07 |
| charlie-tca | wired and wireless are different | 15:08 |
| Gridcube | well yes, but it did not recognized the wired on the netbook anyway, and thats not the problem, the problem was that after seeing that i supossedly had not network devices it stop the installation allthogheter | 15:11 |
| Sysi | I heard someone telling that and someone responding that it can be skipped | 15:11 |
| Gridcube | i just disabled the network cards on the test im doing now, and i did that and it continued | 15:12 |
| charlie-tca | That is normal | 15:12 |
| Gridcube | oh ok | 15:14 |
| charlie-tca | knome: are you doing the alpha1 release notes? They are normally added to the Technical Overview by the PL | 15:18 |
| skaet | knome, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview | 15:23 |
| skaet | if you could put a summary of what's changed so far on the Xubuntu side, and any bugs you want to warn folks about, it would be appreciated. :) | 15:24 |
| * skaet thanks charlie-tca for bringing it up. :) | 15:25 | |
| charlie-tca | skaet: you are welcome | 15:25 |
| charlie-tca | Took me all day yesterday to sync images. I am back today | 15:26 |
| astraljava | madnick: Yeah, I would assume as much, as it's the same reader with the same card all the time. | 15:48 |
| micahg | welcome back charlie-tca | 16:04 |
| charlie-tca | ty | 16:04 |
| ochosi | wb charlie-tca | 16:26 |
| charlie-tca | ty | 16:41 |
| ochosi | bbl | 16:42 |
| charlie-tca | hm, alpha 1 starts with sound muted everytime | 16:58 |
| charlie-tca | Gridcube: does the install start with sound muted there? | 17:55 |
| knome | charlie-tca, no, haven't | 17:56 |
| knome | charlie-tca, we do have good tracking of progress and work items though, so it shouldn't be too hard | 17:56 |
| Gridcube | haven't ended yet | 17:56 |
| charlie-tca | Okay | 17:56 |
| charlie-tca | knome: Okay, great! | 17:57 |
| charlie-tca | That was always a difficult thing after this first milestone, for me. | 17:57 |
| knome | i don't think much has changed for a1 | 17:58 |
| knome | mostly debian importing | 18:00 |
| knome | and some minor changes that affect mostly settings | 18:00 |
| knome | charlie-tca, welcome back, btw | 18:00 |
| charlie-tca | thanks. Should be around again, | 18:01 |
| skaet | knome, just add that then. :) Key is to set expectations. | 18:14 |
| knome | mmh. | 18:16 |
| * knome just woke up from coma-naps | 18:16 | |
| astraljava | Did you know that you're sleeptyping? | 18:20 |
| knome | :P | 18:21 |
| micahg | knome: ristretto :) | 18:26 |
| knome | micahg, could *you* add that? :) | 18:26 |
| micahg | knome: no :), too many things going on right now | 18:27 |
| knome | heh, okay | 18:27 |
| knome | np | 18:27 |
| knome | updated the wikipage | 18:30 |
| Gridcube | charlie-tca: the sound is not muted but low | 19:10 |
| GridCube_ | charlie-tca: did my last message went trhough? the sound is enabled but on like 20% | 19:15 |
| knome | pleia2, ? | 19:46 |
| skaet | knome, do you want your alternates respun to pick up the LTSP fix that stgraber just landed? | 21:18 |
| * micahg didn't think we had ltsp in xubuntu | 21:19 | |
| charlie-tca | it is a menu option | 21:19 |
| micahg | ah | 21:19 |
| knome | skaet, why not, if you can do that and it does no harm. | 21:39 |
| charlie-tca | We won't have time to re-run all the tests | 21:40 |
| micahg | knome: they would need to be retested :) | 21:40 |
| knome | okay | 21:40 |
| knome | skaet, let's not do that. | 21:40 |
| charlie-tca | skaet: Can you carry the tests forward? | 21:40 |
| skaet | knome, heh. if its not a common path then probably safest to skip it this time around. (a couple of other uploads happened during soft freeze, so yes, retesting would be advisable) | 21:41 |
| micahg | can it be release noted? | 21:41 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: is the option to install locally ltsp or to install remotely on an LTSP server? | 21:42 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know. It is an option in the cd menus | 21:43 |
| skaet | charlie-tca - http://91.189.93.73/qatracker/milestones/205/history/ | 21:43 |
| charlie-tca | micahg: i don't have the ability to test it | 21:43 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: ah, ok, was just wondering if you knew offhand | 21:43 |
| charlie-tca | skaet: it is 4 hours for me just to re-sync the images | 21:44 |
| charlie-tca | I never got the images in time to run the early tests | 21:45 |
| skaet | charlie-tca, sorry to be obscure, the link just shows we now have history ability of what bugs were found against which images now. :) | 21:45 |
| charlie-tca | That's a really good feature | 21:45 |
| skaet | charlie-tca, knome - I'm fine with not respinning, its alpha 1 and this will be fixed in next daily. Just wanted you to have the option. | 21:46 |
| charlie-tca | I can't retest these images, myself. 4 hours to sync, 8 hours to test | 21:47 |
| charlie-tca | and a finger with stitches in it from a new cut | 21:47 |
| * skaet sorry to hear about the finger... ouch! | 21:48 | |
| charlie-tca | heh, still going, though | 21:48 |
| skaet | :) | 21:48 |
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