[00:10] <Letalis> is there a program that will allow you to start and stop system services in kde without having to actually manually do it in rc.d?
[00:15] <sluckxz> service monitor widget looks pretty slick
[00:17] <sluckxz> http://imgur.com/yK1Fc  screenshot of one page of widget settings
[00:17] <Letalis> i may check that out
[00:19] <sluckxz> yea i just tested cron with it.  seems pretty slick.  pops up the kdesudo thingy for a password to stop cron.
[00:20] <Letalis> sounds good thanks for the suggestion
[00:26] <ashley_> hi, having problems with adept package manager. can someone help?
[00:36] <Scunizi> Hi all.. I'm trying to report a bug in the Calculator Widget that you can put on the desktop.. I'm having an issue finding the package name. Any suggestions?
[00:45] <Scunizi> NVM.. filed a bug without attaching it to a package.
[02:13] <linxuser> help
[02:20] <amason> linxuser: unfortunately the psycic module hasn't been installed on this server
[02:21] <amason> so you might have to provide more details on your problem if you wish for anyone to help
[02:28] <JackyAlcine> XD
[03:07] <[_MIkE_]> hello
[03:08] <[_MIkE_]> i was upgrading my Kubuntu 10.10 to 11.04, but i had a loss of power... now i cannot start my distro.
[03:08] <[_MIkE_]> how can i reapir it without losing my personal files?
[03:17] <[_MIkE_]> i was upgrading my Kubuntu 10.10 to 11.04, but i had a loss of power... now i cannot start my distro.
[03:17] <[_MIkE_]> how can i reapir it without losing my personal files?
[04:54] <nightshadow> join #android
[04:54] <nightshadow> crumbs, ignore me
[04:59] <almoxarife> I am a hybrid user of ubuntu/kubuntu, kubuntu itself confuses me, too many options and ubuntu/gnome3 don't have enough, so I use some of both, I get errors with some kubuntu apps that make me think I don't have enough of the backbone installed, so, which app would provide me with the most of the backbone without a full blown kubuntu install??
[05:10] <Corigo> So, again, I setup a software RAID, set a file system mount point in /dev/ then a week later I ran the suggested updates, and after the reboot my moint point was missing. Any idea why this would happen?
[05:15] <LINKSWORD2> !kubuntu 12.04 beta
[05:16] <LINKSWORD2> ... Fail. lol
[05:16] <LINKSWORD2> Hey guys, I'm looking for info on Kubuntu 12. Is there any testing beta out?
[05:16] <Unit193> 1. Bot isn't here 2. Not a factoid :P
[05:16] <LINKSWORD2> lol Did somebody kill the bot?
[05:20] <Unit193> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20111129.1/ or you can wait for Alpha1 (should be about tomorrow?) to test it out, but it's not really ready for everyday use
[05:20] <LINKSWORD2> Hmm...
[05:21] <LINKSWORD2> Have you had any graphical or theme-related problems with 11.10?
[05:24] <amason> LINKSWORD2: it's not been long ago since it was synced, i would doubt a beta would be out yet
[05:24] <amason> it's still under heavy development
[05:25] <LINKSWORD2> OK, thanks. Next question... Are there any known issues for GUI, graphical, or theme-related problems... Possibly not displaying properly?
[05:27] <LINKSWORD2> I'm running 11.04 and the fact that I've had previous problems with upgrading to 11.10 is the only reason I don't do it again.
[05:28] <Corigo> Best way to set root password?
[05:29] <DarthFrog> Corigo: Is not to do it.  Use "sudo" instead.
[05:30] <LINKSWORD2> At least you didn't say "Use Google instead"
[05:31] <Daskreech> Cute
[05:31] <Daskreech> Searching for Office suite on Bing turns up Openoffice before Microsoft office
[05:32] <Daskreech> Corigo: depends on what you updated
[05:32] <Daskreech> !root
[05:32] <Daskreech> RIght .>_<
[05:33] <Unit193> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no  root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password.  Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[05:33] <amason> LINKSWORD2: pretty generic question.....the answer i guess is that it depends on your setup...if you are using stock standard theme on well supported hardware you should be fine
[05:34] <amason> my upgrade worked fine...that isn't to say yours will
[05:34] <Corigo> looking at the list linux-headers seems the most likely culprit, but why would anything reset my filesystem mount points/
[05:34] <amason> most people don't have issues
[05:34] <Corigo> ?
[05:34] <amason> Corigo: what are you trying to achieve ?
[05:35] <amason> n/m i see your previous post
[05:35] <Corigo> I had a lovely fstab mapping setup, I did the basic "recommended" updates and now I'm being forced to remap my mount point... just seems ultra wonky
[05:36] <LINKSWORD2> Every time I upgrade, the window-bar at the top of a window will not show the -/+/x buttons.
[05:36] <LINKSWORD2> They're still there, and the system reacts to them, but they're not in the right positions, and they're not visible.
[05:36] <LINKSWORD2> lol @ Corigo "wonky"
[05:38] <Corigo> is there a way to analyze the contents/mapping of an existing filesystem mount point?
[05:40] <DarthFrog> What do you mean by analyze?  "mount' by itself will show you the mountings.
[05:40] <Corigo> for example how can I determine what /dev/md0 is mapping to?
[05:41] <DarthFrog> cat /proc/mdstat
[05:42] <Corigo> bizarre. So when I created the raid array it wouldn't let me set md0 as my point, now (after the update) it reset my previous md127 to md0 ... ultra wonky indeed
[07:42] <faLUCE> hi. I can't set 1920x1080 resolution on "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)" (I'm using ubuntu). In addition, I had to add " i915.modeset=0 " to grub file (otherwise I saw a black screen). How can I solve?
[08:10] <faLUCE> hi. I can't use resolutions higher than 1280x1024 with "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)". In addition, I had to boot with "nomodeset" (otherwise I saw only a black screen)
[08:18] <Joit_> faluce i only can guess because i am new at kubuntu too but look at settings and install a graphic driver?
[08:19] <Joit_> i got a similar problem, that it did not install a driver at the install, i had to add it later
[08:19] <Joit_> same for me, it only worked with the option nomodeset
[08:19] <Joit_> then i did install a nvidia driver over  hardware
[08:20] <Joit_> -drivers
[09:05] <daniel> does someone know how to enable hardware acceleration on kubuntu 11.10 i have ati mobility radeon hd 4300/4500
[09:07] <daniel> someone? :/
[09:20] <toumbo> how to quicly accosiate amarok with all audio files?
[09:20] <toumbo> quicky
[09:20] <toumbo> nevermind
[09:30] <faLUCE> hi, I'm using the integrated graphic cardo of a i5 2400 cpu (ubuntu 11.10, kernel 3.0.0-12-generic). Unfortunately, I have to use "nomodeset" (otherwise I have blank screen after boot) and can't use high resolution. How can I solve?
[09:33] <GirlyGirl> faLUCE: Intel sandy bridge GPU chipset?
[09:33] <faLUCE> GirlyGirl: it seems so...
[09:33] <faLUCE> then?
[09:34] <GirlyGirl> faLUCE: You will need these two ppa https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa  https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[09:34] <GirlyGirl> then update the system
[09:34] <faLUCE> GirlyGirl: should I remove nomodeset from grub?
[09:35] <GirlyGirl> faLUCE: after updating
[09:35] <GirlyGirl> faLUCE: If it doesn't work use ppa-purge to remove packages and re add "nomodeset"
[09:37] <faLUCE> GirlyGirl: this is too aleatory
[09:38] <GirlyGirl> Its worth a try
[09:39] <GirlyGirl> faLUCE: Generally Sandy Bridge works out of the bot on 11.10 are you sure this computer doesn't have Nividia Optimus
[09:40] <faLUCE> GirlyGirl: I already tried that http://askubuntu.com/questions/65637/ubuntu-failed-to-detect-monitor-and-very-low-resolution but with no luck
[09:41] <faLUCE> GirlyGirl: I don't know what nvidia optimus is
[09:41] <GirlyGirl> faLUCE: That won't work especially on 11.10
[09:41] <GirlyGirl> faLUCE: Paste the output of "lspci" on paste.ubuntu.com
[09:42] <faLUCE> GirlyGirl: http://pastebin.com/f20Sdgj1
[09:42] <tonymc> i have a problem with libreoffice - it won't start
[09:42] <faLUCE> GirlyGirl: what won't work?
[09:42] <tonymc> to be more precise, doesn't get past the splash screen
[09:42] <tonymc> i run oneiric with latest updates and some ppa's
[09:42] <GirlyGirl> faLUCE: The askubuntu.com thing
[09:43] <tonymc> no ppa for libreoffice but i tried with that also
[09:43] <faLUCE> GirlyGirl: why?
[09:43] <tonymc> running libreoffice from console doesn't give any error messages or anything
[09:43] <tonymc> i tried removing .libreoffice, tried purging and reinstalling
[09:44] <tonymc> any ideas?
[09:45] <GirlyGirl> faLUCE: Its basically the same default driver
[09:45] <faLUCE> GirlyGirl: which is the command for adding the two ppas?
[09:45] <GirlyGirl> tonymc: delete ".libreoffice " in your home folder
[09:45] <tonymc> tried that
[09:45] <tonymc> didn't work
[09:46] <GirlyGirl> faLUCE: "sudo apt apt-add-repository ppa:sarvatt/intel-sna" and "sudo apt apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa"
[09:47] <faLUCE> GirlyGirl: let's try
[09:47] <faLUCE> GirlyGirl: then update and upgrade, right?
[09:47] <GirlyGirl> faLUCE: 1 momment
[09:47] <GirlyGirl> faLUCE: remove the glassen ppa the update
[09:49] <faLUCE> GirlyGirl: I can't find the glassen ppa in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:50] <GirlyGirl> faLUCE: that file is no longer used for ppa's for a very long time
[09:50] <faLUCE> GirlyGirl: so it doesn't matter?
[09:50] <GirlyGirl> faLUCE: You can use the "settings" , configure software sources in muon
[09:51] <GirlyGirl> or do "sudo apt-get install ppa-purge" then "sudo ppa-purge ppa:glasen/intel-driver"
[09:52] <GirlyGirl> faLUCE: ppa's are now stored in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ for a very long time
[09:52] <faLUCE> GirlyGirl: "Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: glasen intel-driver"
[09:53] <GirlyGirl> faLUCE: You use Kubuntu 11.10?
[09:53] <faLUCE> anyway, GirlyGirl, if I do apt-get update with your two repos, I obtain errors
[09:53] <faLUCE> GirlyGirl: yes, lubuntu 11.10
[09:53] <faLUCE> lubuntu, not kubuntu
[09:54] <GirlyGirl> faLUCE: Then what on earth are you doing in #kubuntu!
[09:54] <faLUCE> GirlyGirl: because the problem is ubuntu generic
[09:55] <GirlyGirl> faLUCE: Maybe #ubuntu would have been better then
[09:55] <GirlyGirl> faLUCE: Anyways lubuntu has synaptic?
[09:55] <faLUCE> GirlyGirl: yes
[09:55] <faLUCE> I can add these repos, but it gives me errors when updating
[09:55] <faLUCE> I can add these ppas, but it gives me errors when updating
[09:56] <GirlyGirl> faLUCE: Press "alt + f2" and tpye "gksu software-properties-gtk"
[09:56] <faLUCE> GirlyGirl: ok, then?
[09:57] <GirlyGirl> faLUCE:  one moment
[09:58] <GirlyGirl> faLUCE: in this section http://www.picamatic.com/show/2011/12/01/12/58/8055021_1024x600.jpeg
[09:58] <GirlyGirl> remove the glassen ppa and add the two I told you .. use the "add" and "remove" button
[09:58] <GirlyGirl> faLUCE: Ok?
[09:59] <GirlyGirl> faLUCE: After doing that update and upgrade
[10:00] <faLUCE> GirlyGirl: you are very kind, but as said before, I don't have a glassen entry in this panel
[10:00] <GirlyGirl> faLUCE: Then just add the two I told you
[10:00] <GirlyGirl> ppa:sarvatt/intel-sna and ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[10:02] <GirlyGirl> faLUCE: Done?
[10:03] <faLUCE> GirlyGirl: i updated . now, should I upgrade?
[10:03] <GirlyGirl> faLUCE: Just out of curriousity why would you use Lubuntu on a core i5 system?
[10:03] <GirlyGirl> faLUCE: Yes then reboot
[10:04] <faLUCE> GirlyGirl: I have to remove nomodeset from grub, before reboot?
[10:04] <GirlyGirl> faLUCE: Yes
[10:04] <faLUCE> GirlyGirl: lxde is much better thank kde and gnome. and I'm making my own distro bootable on different cpus
[10:05] <GirlyGirl> faLUCE: remove it and do "sudo update-grup"
[10:05] <GirlyGirl> sorry grub
[10:05] <faLUCE> GirlyGirl: lxde is faster.
[10:06] <GirlyGirl> faLUCE: On older hardware sure, but I'm currently using KDE on an Intel Atom 1.6 Ghz with only 2Gb ram and KDE 4.7 is fast for me
[10:06] <faLUCE> GirlyGirl: it's not enough fast for my projects...
[10:07] <faLUCE> GirlyGirl: I have to optimize a lot of stuff
[10:07] <GirlyGirl> faLUCE: What projects?
[10:07] <faLUCE> GirlyGirl: I build Audio video boxes on poor cpus
[10:08] <faLUCE> GirlyGirl: ok, I reboot, I'll be back soon
[10:16] <faLUCE> GirlyGirl: no luck
[10:17] <GirlyGirl> faLUCE: Maybe the #ubuntu channel can help you then ... I still find it strange that you would come to #kubuntu
[11:18] <Aprendiz_> anybody have had problems upgrading today?
[11:18] <Aprendiz_> I have one package kept
[11:29] <sercan> ubuntu vmware instal??
[11:31] <Peace-> !virtualbox
[11:32] <sercan> virtualbox error
[12:04] <DaemonFC> VirtualBox is probably the second largest source of kernel panics after nonfree video drivers
[12:04] <DaemonFC> :)
[12:07] <RoadsterGT> how can i deactivate and blacklist the OSS module?
[12:07] <DaemonFC> uhhhm
[12:07] <Peace-> RoadsterGT: locate blacklist
[12:07] <DaemonFC> recent Ubuntu kernels provide no OSS emulation at all
[12:08] <Peace-> mm?
[12:08] <DaemonFC> even worse, they preclaim those resources so you can't even install OSS 4
[12:08] <Peace-> DaemonFC: oss4?
[12:08] <DaemonFC> yeah
[12:08] <DaemonFC> Ubuntu declared war on OSS starting sometime around 10,10
[12:09] <RoadsterGT> Peace-, there are many entries
[12:09] <Peace-> RoadsterGT: locate blacklist | grep etc
[12:10] <RoadsterGT> http://pastebin.com/gJV6nZhS
[12:10] <Peace-> RoadsterGT: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[12:10] <Peace-> RoadsterGT: should be that
[12:10] <DaemonFC> are you using 10.04 or something?
[12:10] <RoadsterGT> yes i user 10.04 lts
[12:10] <Peace-> RoadsterGT: yes it is /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[12:11] <RoadsterGT> Peace-, should i add the line:
[12:11] <RoadsterGT> blacklist oss
[12:11] <RoadsterGT> or something else?
[12:11] <Peace-> RoadsterGT: lsmod | grep oss
[12:12] <DaemonFC> seeing as how there is no OSS system even on kernels that support the OSS 3 API, I don't know how you could blacklist it
[12:12] <DaemonFC> it's built into ALSA
[12:12] <Peace-> if thre is not a module for oss you can't
[12:12] <DaemonFC> it's not a module, it's part of ALSA
[12:13] <Peace-> DaemonFC: mmm not the emulation i mean
[12:13] <Peace-> alsa can emulate oss
[12:13] <Peace-> oss4 i gues i a different beast
[12:13] <DaemonFC> which could be built as a module, but nobody does that I'm aware of and it would require blacklisting ALSA even if that were the case ;)
[12:13] <RoadsterGT> Peace-, http://pastebin.com/zu1s9Lpi
[12:13] <DaemonFC> OSS 4 is very different
[12:14] <Peace-> RoadsterGT: what did you installed?
[12:14] <RoadsterGT> Peace-, the defaults mostly
[12:14] <Peace-> RoadsterGT: the default what does it mean?
[12:14] <DaemonFC> yes, the ALSA OSS 3 emulation is only meant to provide the OSS 3 API that was supported in old Linux kernels
[12:14] <RoadsterGT> Peace-, what came with 10.04
[12:14] <RoadsterGT> and this
[12:14] <RoadsterGT> apt-get install alsa-oss alsaplayer mpg321 alsaplayer-alsa alsa-base
[12:14] <DaemonFC> it has nothing to do with OSS 4 at all and it is not OSS
[12:15] <Peace-> RoadsterGT:  see what you have installed on oss
[12:15] <RoadsterGT> how can i do that?
[12:15] <Peace-> RoadsterGT: open kpackagekit and search for oss
[12:15] <DaemonFC> not OSS version anything, period, it just implements some APIs in a way that applications use ALSA without even knowing it (ideally anyway)
[12:15] <Peace-> RoadsterGT: select what is installed and mark them to remove
[12:16] <DaemonFC> I don't understand why the Ubuntu kernel team decided OSS emulation should be scrapped
[12:16] <RoadsterGT> Peace-, i got only alsa-oss
[12:16] <DaemonFC> when they kept old ALSA API from like 9 years ago
[12:16] <Peace-> RoadsterGT: so remove it
[12:16] <DaemonFC> but oh well
[12:16] <sercan> sudo sh VMware-Workstation-Full-7.1.4-385536.i386.bundle
[12:16] <sercan> vmware-installer.py:6503): Gtk-WARNING **: Tema aygıtı module_path "pixmap" içinde bulunamadı,
[12:16] <sercan> diyor
[12:17] <DaemonFC> vmware? really?
[12:17]  * DaemonFC head desks
[12:18] <DaemonFC> I don't know why people are ever surprised when they try to run some random installer script for proprietary software and it fails
[12:18] <sercan> yes vmware installation error
[12:19] <sercan> vmware-installer.py: 6503): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme device module_path "pixmap" found in the
[12:19] <Peace-> DaemonFC: btw vmware is supported
[12:19] <DaemonFC> if they're supported, where's the DEB?
[12:19] <DaemonFC> :)
[12:20] <sercan> setup.x86_64.bundle
[12:20] <DaemonFC> .sh installers from anyone make me instantly start wondering how many hours it will take me to figure out why it won't install
[12:20] <DaemonFC> or if it does somehow, why it won't start
[12:20] <Peace-> DaemonFC: you don't need deb for a linux system
[12:20] <sercan> sudo sh /home/sercan/İndirilenler/setup.x86_64.bundle
[12:21] <DaemonFC> yeah, pass
[12:21] <DaemonFC> :)
[12:21] <Peace-> DaemonFC: infact you can compile  what you want
[12:21] <DaemonFC> you can't compile vmware
[12:21] <DaemonFC> there's no source :)
[12:21] <Peace-> if you know-how
[12:21] <Peace-> compile install
[12:21] <Peace-> is supported.
[12:21] <DaemonFC> going outside the package manager is almost always a bad idea
[12:21] <Peace-> three is a native bin for linux
[12:21] <Peace-> .
[12:22] <Peace-> DaemonFC: that is for noobs
[12:22] <DaemonFC> but if you like cleaning up messes, then you'll love script installers
[12:22] <DaemonFC> no, I just mean they tend to spew crap everywhere
[12:22] <DaemonFC> and overwrite system files
[12:22] <DaemonFC> AMD and Nvidia love that
[12:22] <sercan> How to install ubuntu or
[12:22] <Peace-> admin is not a noob ,, if he is ... well it's his problem
[12:23] <DaemonFC> but the spewing crap any and everywhere part is common with most "generic Linux" installer scripts from anyone
[12:23] <sercan> vmware
[12:23] <Peace-> DaemonFC: ok so go in windows for a virtualmachine?
[12:23] <Peace-> just because you don't know how to fix a linux system?
[12:23] <DaemonFC> I don't know what VMWare is doing
[12:23] <DaemonFC> I don't use proprietary software
[12:23] <Peace-> ok
[12:23] <sercan> mware-installer.py:6503): Gtk-WARNING ** module_path "pixmap"
[12:23] <DaemonFC> and I sure as heck won't use proprietary software without a proper installer
[12:24] <Peace-> i use what i need with linux because i know
[12:24] <Peace-> how to fix my system always
[12:25] <DaemonFC> "It's not a good idea to put forks in the microwave, but don't let me stop you!" ;)
[12:25] <sercan> virtualbox how to resolve the unreachable error
[12:25] <Peace-> linux is not a microwave
[12:25] <Peace-> .
[12:25] <sercan> inaccessible
[12:26] <sercan> how to recover
[12:27] <sercan> I do not know English
[12:27] <sercan> translation using the
[12:27] <DaemonFC> VirtualBox taints your kernel
[12:27] <DaemonFC> so does VMWare
[12:27] <DaemonFC> just so you know why I used that analogy
[12:28] <Peace-> sercan: 64bit cpu?
[12:28] <sercan> I could not find information on how to patch
[12:28] <sercan> yes
[12:28] <Peace-> sercan: omg...
[12:29] <sercan> so?
[12:29] <Peace-> sercan: http://www.vmware.com/support/player40/doc/releasenotes_player40.html#Installation_Requirements
[12:30] <sercan> virtualbox machine can not be reached
[12:30] <DaemonFC> Peace-: They claim to support it
[12:30] <DaemonFC> have you asked them why it doesn't work? :)
[12:30] <Peace-> sercan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11440657
[12:30] <Peace-> DaemonFC: there is always a workaraound !  dont came here just to say i don't use proprietary software
[12:31] <Peace-> DaemonFC: if you want help people ok , if not shut up
[12:31] <DaemonFC> if you want to know why someone's nonfree software won't work, ask them
[12:31] <DaemonFC> they wrote it, only they know why it's not working
[12:32] <Peace-> !chat | DaemonFC
[12:32] <Peace-> !offtopic | DaemonFC
[12:32]  * DaemonFC didn't realize he was in #vmware-crap
[12:32] <DaemonFC> pardon me :)
[12:33] <DaemonFC> I'll take this off topic discussion about Kubuntu elsewhere because clearly the subject is vmware and that's why the room is called kubuntu
[12:34] <Peace-> DaemonFC: you are not helping people you are just in offtopic
[12:35] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:35] <Peace-> BluesKaj: hi
[12:35] <DaemonFC> http://www.vmware.com/support/contacts/
[12:35] <BluesKaj> hey Peace-
[12:35] <DaemonFC> you can get help from VMWare there, if they ever decide to reply
[12:38] <szal> !paste
[12:47] <BluesKaj> BBL, stuff to do
[13:01] <eristikophiles> hey if muon is crashing, how would i best clean by pkdb?
[13:01] <eristikophiles> pkgdb
[13:02] <eristikophiles> ugh. clean *my*
[13:02] <eristikophiles> not so awake yet today
[13:07] <BluesKaj> eristikophiles, sudo apt-get autoclean
[13:08] <BluesKaj> or autoremove
[13:08] <BluesKaj> I usually do both
[13:09] <eristikophiles> ah ok
[13:09] <eristikophiles> thanks
[13:10] <eristikophiles> heh. it says it can't lock the downloads dir
[13:23] <BluesKaj> eristikophiles, permissions maybe , but any left over unneeded depends are usually in usr/bin or usr/lib , not the downloads ,.unless of course you compliled some apps from source
[13:30] <eristikophiles> it says these 2 lines:
[13:30] <eristikophiles> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[13:30] <eristikophiles> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[13:30] <szal> sounds like not being privileged
[13:32] <BluesKaj> eristikophiles, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[13:35] <eristikophiles> huh. that gave no output and isn't running in the background
[13:36] <eristikophiles> i guess there are no unconfig'd packages
[13:39] <BluesKaj> eristikophiles, it'ws not supposed to give any output , it just closes any packages that are on hold for installation or removal
[13:39] <eristikophiles> ah i see
[13:39] <eristikophiles> thanks
[13:39] <eristikophiles> the manpage didn't make it sound that way lol
[13:40] <BluesKaj> eristikophiles, you may have another package manager open
[13:40] <eristikophiles> it doesn't give the error that that usually would cause
[13:40] <eristikophiles> ..it seems to stall when i try to retrieve update packages
[13:41] <eristikophiles> i also noticed earlier today that i can't reach sourceforge
[13:41] <eristikophiles> i suspect that is peerguardian's fault
[13:41] <eristikophiles> ;p
[13:42] <eristikophiles> some of the lists are ridiculously restrictive. but i could get on there before
[13:43] <BluesKaj> eristikophiles, run this , to clear any packages in limbo , sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[13:43] <eristikophiles> no that's not it .. at least for muon. it still doesn't work when pg is off
[13:52] <BluesKaj> erik peerguardian?
[13:52] <BluesKaj> eristikophiles, ^
[13:55] <faLUCE> Hi. I can boot with my distro (a lubuntu 11.10 based distro, created by me with remastersys utility) only if I set nomodeset. Otherwise I see a black screen after booting. Unfortunately, with nomodeset I can only see low resolution for the screen. How can I solve that? I tried the lubuntu 11.10 live cd and it sees high resolutions too. How can I correct this error in my custom distro?
[13:56] <szal> faLUCE: wrong channel
[13:57] <faLUCE> szal: why?
[13:57] <szal> faLUCE: (1) Lubuntu != Kubuntu (under the hood yes, but we support solely Kubuntu); (2) "custom distro" = not supported
[13:58] <faLUCE> szal: the problem is common to all ubuntu based distros
[13:59] <szal> faLUCE: other than that, don't crosspost to multiple channels
[13:59] <faLUCE> szal: please, don't say stupid things.
[13:59] <szal> !guidelines | faLUCE
[13:59] <faLUCE> szal: if you want to waste your time, I'll simply ignore you
[14:04] <eristikophiles> BluesKaj- i turned off peerguardian and tried it again.. didn't help. i don't think pg is blocking the source archives
[14:05] <BluesKaj> eristikophiles, what is perrguardian anyway?
[14:06] <BluesKaj> faLUCE, try this , and then stop crossposting http://fossplanet.com/f12/setting-screen-resolution-grub2-107813/
[14:17] <BluesKaj> ok , eristikophiles , peerguardian..IP/port blocker etc ...I just use the router for that
[14:18] <eristikophiles> yeah, i'm used to having to put up with shitty routers
[14:19] <eristikophiles> have a better one lately but still, i don't like to rely on router firewalls
[14:19] <eristikophiles> besides which i like having blacklists to draw from
[14:19] <eristikophiles> i can't possibly keep track of all the IPs i connect to
[14:20] <BluesKaj> eristikophiles, the router port and IP settings ...the fw is default , it uses the negative option ..blocks all portd unless opened for particular apps
[14:21] <BluesKaj> just a small LAN here so no admin required
[14:24] <TImewarper> how can i add myself to the vboxusers group?
[14:27] <BluesKaj> TImewarper, ask in vbox
[14:28] <Pici> TImewarper: sudo adduser yourusername vboxusers
[14:29] <TImewarper> Pici, can i use usermod or something?
[14:30] <Pici> TImewarper: Is there a problem using adduser?
[14:30] <TImewarper> k thx bye
[14:30] <Pici> er, okay
[14:34] <faLUCE> here's the pastebin of xorg log. I have troubles in setting high resolution for my monitor.  http://pastebin.com/yg4323st    where can be the problem?
[14:42] <eristikophiles> BluesKaj- yeah i dislike messing with router settings overmuch. i prefer to just DMZ and use a software firewall on the box itself
[14:42] <BluesKaj> eristikophiles, yeah that works too
[14:44] <eristikophiles> it's sort of annoying that pg blocks sourceforge.net
[14:44] <eristikophiles> i can't think of why except it's a site for hacker tools according to squares and cops
[15:01] <eristikophiles> aw crap, now i'm getting totally unrelated errors working with /var subdirs
[15:01] <eristikophiles> i think i need a reboot
[15:29] <akisgr> hi. is there any way in kmail to send a message later specifying the time? i am searching kmail but i didn't find anything.
[15:38] <akisgr> Is there a way to schedule when a particular email is sent when using Kmail?
[15:38] <akisgr> I know there is the "send later" option. What I a looking for is a way to
[15:38] <akisgr> send a message at a particular time such as setting it to be sent at 4:30
[15:38] <akisgr> this afternoon or  9:00 tomorrow morning or such.
[15:40] <WindPower> I don't think there is such a thing, akisgr
[15:40] <BluesKaj> isn't here a time setting in the send later option akisgr , I haven't used kmail in ages so I can't help much more than that
[15:41] <akisgr> i have the same opinion because i googled already and i didn't find anything and that is the reason i asked for your assistance.
[15:51] <fullstop> I took the plunge and updated from 10.10 -> 11.04 -> 11.10.
[15:51] <fullstop> 4.7.2 is far better, and faster, than 4.5.x
[15:52] <fullstop> I'm not sure how much of the speed is better Xorg drivers and how much is kde/qt though.
[16:03] <TImewarper> does ubiquity work if i run ubuntu from within virtualbox? (as a live system)
[16:05] <TImewarper> BluesKaj, sucks dicks
[16:05] <TImewarper> true story
[16:19] <BluesKaj> thanks Pici
[16:58] <phoenix_firebrd> need help with using vaapi
[17:02] <kmmndr> Hi all :-)
[17:02] <kmmndr> does anyone experienced mouse freeze during light load (for example : plug an usb device in, open dolphin, ...) ?
[17:10] <Peace-> kmmndr: no
[17:10] <Peace-> kmmndr: looks like your mouse is not correctly recognized
[17:10] <Peace-> or there is a bug in the kernel
[17:11] <Peace-> kmmndr: so see the log
[17:11] <Peace-> and see what it says
[17:23] <phoenix_firebrd> can some one help me to setup vaapi hardware acceleration?
[17:23] <BluesKaj> BBL, stuff to do
[17:29] <excognac> Does orca work under kde PROPERLY?
[18:03] <BluesKaj> BBL, stuff to do
[18:11] <wabash> hey there. I've been a loyal Ubunu user for a long  long time. But Unity pisses me off. So I'm looking to do something different. I'm upgrading from 10.10. I'm looking at Fedora 16, Kubuntu, Mint, and just Ubuntu but replacing the windowing environ.
[18:12] <wabash> So for Kubuntu, can I expect that all the software I've come to use with Ubuntu is available here too?
[18:12] <wabash> Are the repos the same?
[18:21] <Peace-> wabash: of course
[18:21] <Peace-> wabash: kubuntu is ubuntu +kde
[18:21] <DarthFrog> wabash: Yes, for the most part.  And yes, all Ubuntu software works ferpectly under Kubuntu.
[18:32] <tchab> hi, i just tried to install kubuntu 11.10 but the installer crashes because of ubiquity... i did not found an fix for that, is there one?
[18:38] <wabash> Peace-: DarthFrog: thank you both. So, it's going to also use sudo, etc. etc.?
[18:39] <DarthFrog> wabash: Yes.
[18:39] <wabash> And, can you recommend 32 bit vs. 64 bit? Will 32 -bit flash player work under 64 bit environment?
[18:39] <DarthFrog> wabash: The only thing that changes is that you'll be using KDE as your desktop.
[18:39] <DarthFrog> wabash: Yes it will.
[18:39] <wabash> DarthFrog: Ok, great to know. What's your take on 64 vs. 32 for OS?
[18:40] <DarthFrog> Me?  I paid for a 64 bit CPU, I want to use all 64 bits. :-)
[18:40] <tchab> if you can take 64 take it ;-)
[18:41] <tchab> well, i dont want to be annoying, but: [19:32] <tchab> hi, i just tried to install kubuntu 11.10 but the installer crashes because of ubiquity... i did not found an fix for that, is there one?
[18:41] <tchab> any ideas?
[18:41] <wabash> DarthFrog: tchab: My sentiments.... sure. Are there any drawbacks to using 64 bit os? I know that references in Java will take up more space. Anything else?
[18:41] <DarthFrog> However, unless you're doing something CPU intensive (email, IRC and web browsing aren't), there's no real advantage to 64 bits.
[18:41] <wabash> And would a 32 bit JVM work fine with 64bit os?
[18:42] <wabash> DarthFrog: Well, I'll plan to use BLAS actually.... so it may prove worthwhile..
[18:42] <wabash> Is this correcT?
[18:42] <DarthFrog> wabash: I've found no drawbacks whatsoever to using a 64 bit OS.
[18:42] <wabash> Is it a correct assumtion that BLAS and ATLAS would run quite a bit faster on 64bit ?
[18:43] <DarthFrog> Since I have no idea what they are, I have no idea. :-)
[18:43] <tchab> :D
[18:43] <sluckxz> how to use apt or dpkg whatever to discard a full install of kde and go minimal desktop?
[18:43] <DarthFrog> !puregnome
[18:43] <sluckxz> can i just apt-get insall kde-minimal?
[18:44] <sluckxz> thanks i'll look
[18:44] <tchab> sluckxz: thats really minimal http://i3wm.org/ :-)
[18:45] <caesar_> how do i get desktop icons to show?
[18:45] <sluckxz> yea headless type id imagine.  havent looked at it yet.  i would like kde minimal and skip a core only cause i guess id have to re download kde.
[18:46] <tchab> still no ideas about the ubiquity-bug of the installer?
[18:47] <Cassio> Hi, how can I  format pen-drive on KDE user interface
[18:56] <mr-rich> Guest81344: Pen drives are usually pre-formatted to FAT32 ... what do you want to format it too?
[19:36] <Guest81344> it possible to package the Quick USB Formatter kubuntu by default?
[19:36] <Guest81344> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Quick+Usb+Formatter?content=137493
[20:26] <ahox> Hi, is there some way to use the cisco ssl vpn with networkmanager?
[20:30] <Pici> ahox: network-manager-vpnc might do the trick.
[20:30] <ahox> Pici: Thats the old cisco client, isn't it? From what I understood, this one is incompatible with the new one
[20:31] <Pici> ahox: is openconnect the new one? network-manager-openconnect
[20:38] <rafail> hi
[20:39] <ahox> Pici: Yes, thats it. Thanks!
[22:31] <mithrop> hi here
[22:57] <benbloom> ack! think i broke X! can someone help me out? when i'm booting, the screen freezes before the login prompt. system totally locks up, I can't even get to a tty. I was trying to add a second moniter to my setup when this happen. think it's something with x.org? PLEASE HELP!
[22:58] <mithrop> benbloom: try to start in rescue mode with the grub to get a shell or a tty
[22:59] <benbloom> yeah. i'm in that mode...
[22:59] <benbloom> rcu_sched_state detected stall on CPU 1
[23:00] <benbloom> also there's a PCI hardware error. :'-(
[23:00] <mithrop> oO
[23:01] <mithrop> I don't really know this kind of error... :/ I was thinking that your xorg.conf is the problem, but I am not really sure now... We can try to put it back in a normal state anyway ;)
[23:02] <benbloom> same thoughts here. there is no file in /etc/X11/ xorg.conf
[23:02] <mithrop> " sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg "
[23:03] <mithrop> try it and tell me
[23:03] <benbloom> cool. that's what i was looking for! thanks
[23:04] <mithrop> :)
[23:10] <benbloom> dont think it worked
[23:10] <benbloom> i did put a new ram chip in yesterday... but everything's been working fine
[23:12] <benbloom> what happenend was i put a new video card in, booted with one video attatched to DVI and it went fine, recognized the card and possible outputs. I selected DVI as primary out, then rebooted with a second moniter plugged into VGA hoping it would recognize and configre it at boot.
[23:12] <benbloom> that was the last time i was able to boot in normally (did make it through recovery into kdm once, but havent' been able to replicate that
[23:17] <benbloom> so removing the new RAM seems to have made a dif. PCI hardware error was the clue there
[23:18] <mithrop> benbloom: it's strange to destroy a RAM when plugging a screen on your video card ^^
[23:19] <benbloom> yeah. at least i'm running ok though. i'll do a memtest and see what's going on with the card
[23:20] <mithrop> benbloom: good luck ;)
[23:21] <benbloom> ty. problems are not over i fear. now it's taking too long to shut down! at least the animated logout dots are moving
[23:22] <benbloom> thanks for the help mithrop. i'll write down/memorize that dpkg-configure -phigh xserver-xorg trick
[23:22] <Belial`> benbloom: what's the problem? i tried to scroll, but i'm connected to a bnc and i don't have a back log set for this channel.
[23:22] <vlada> ahoj
[23:22] <Belial`> the memory problem.
[23:23] <mithrop> benbloom: you're welcome :) I found it on the french documentation of Ubuntu... it seems to be a very good version ;)
[23:24] <benbloom> is it possible that my using a keyboard/mouse relay switch could have something to do with this?
[23:24] <vlada> just install kubuntu, im very confused :D
[23:24] <benbloom> still logging out btw.
[23:24] <benbloom> :D vlada. first time using KDE?
[23:25] <vlada> yes
[23:25] <benbloom> what OS are you coming from??
[23:25] <vlada> Windows 7
[23:25] <vlada> where are you from? im in czech republic
[23:26] <benbloom> k. KDE has a lot in common with win7 in terms of layout. what's your  confusion
[23:26] <benbloom> california
[23:27] <vlada> it is a little different than win 7
[23:27] <vlada> im problem with amarok, does not work mp3
[23:27] <benbloom> yeah it's different! but it's very configurable.
[23:29] <benbloom> mp3s are non-free so you need to install special libraries to work with ubuntu. there was an option at installation for this, but if you missed it, it's not too late
[23:29] <vlada> what name the libraries? where download it?
[23:31] <benbloom> u want kubuntu-restricted-drivers
[23:33] <benbloom> sorry kubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:33] <mithrop> I have to go. Good bye all :)
[23:33] <vlada> can be download in kubuntu or i must download from internet?
[23:33] <benbloom> you can install from kubuntu
[23:33] <benbloom> cya mithrop
[23:34] <benbloom> click on the K in the bottom left
[23:34] <mithrop> vlada : try to be friendly with "apt-get" command ;) maybe try to find a "Getting started" guide somewhere on the Internet to find a LOT of clues to understand how Ubuntu works ;)
[23:34] <benbloom> yes. i can tell you either way
[23:34] <vlada> ok, i click on the K and than?
[23:35] <benbloom> type software and you'll see Muon software center
[23:36] <vlada> ok, i start Muon and than?
[23:36] <benbloom> first you need to allow multiverse sources
[23:36] <benbloom> under settings configure software sources
[23:37] <benbloom> i'd check all internet sources
[23:38] <vlada> benbloom: internet sources is ok
[23:38] <benbloom> then close and search muon for kubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:38] <benbloom> yes. you will need to dl the package from the internet
[23:39] <benbloom> they're trusted sources... just not "free" in cannonical terms
[23:41] <vlada> ok, its good, i install mp3 thanks :)
[23:42] <benbloom> the software center should be your primary source for installing SW vlada
[23:43] <vlada> yes, i download Synaptic, its better, but i cant not find in system
[23:48] <vlada> its in kubuntu switching on english or czech keybord? in windows alt+shift
[23:49] <benbloom> synaptic is for gnome. if you're going to use kubuntu u should try to use kde apps instead of gnome ones
[23:50] <benbloom> muon is the kde version of synaptic
[23:50] <vlada> ok, i didnt know :)
[23:52] <benbloom> how could you!? that's why the IRC is here.
[23:52] <benbloom> not sure about switching keyboards. but i'd start by looking in system settings
[23:53] <benbloom> brb
[23:53] <vlada> ok