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lightwisehello, i have a quick question, something i havent noticed before with any distro. when i do a uptime in bash it says 0 users, is this normal?02:14
holsteinlightwise: are you familiar with navigating TTY's?02:18
lightwiseno02:18
holsteinyou get to them like this... but *dont* do anything just yet02:18
holsteinor you'll get somewhere you dont know how to get back from02:18
lightwisemy main concern is02:19
lightwiseis this normal?02:19
holsteinlet me tell you how to get back to where you are...02:19
holsteincontrol+alt+F702:19
lightwiseive ran quite a few distros and havent seen 0 users before in an uptime02:19
holsteinyou can navigate to TTY102:19
holsteinlogin02:19
holsteinand run uptime02:19
holsteinthen, you'll see users 102:19
lightwiseah02:19
lightwisei appreciate your help, like i said, i was just curious something funny wasnt going on02:19
holsteincontrol+alt+F*02:19
holsteinthats how you get between them02:19
holsteinand 7 is likely where you are02:20
holsteinyou dont *have* to test it this way though02:20
holsteinyou could log in as a different user you make in the GUI02:20
lightwiseholstein:02:22
lightwiseso this is ok then? its supposed to say 0 users?02:22
holsteinlightwise: i mean, it says 0 on my termimal02:23
lightwiseyes02:23
holsteinthen i login somewhere else, and it says 102:23
lightwisebut you arent answering my question02:23
lightwisehehe02:23
lightwisethis is ok?02:23
holsteini havent looked at any documentation02:23
holsteinand i wont say 'everything is fine' when i dont know for sure02:23
holsteinbut, it looks normal02:23
lightwise21:23:43 up 7 days, 20:31,  0 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.0502:23
lightwisehaha02:24
holsteinright02:24
holsteinthats what mine says, and has said02:24
lightwiseok02:24
lightwiseim not worried then02:24
lightwisea couple others have said it also02:24
holsteini just assumed that was the way it is supposed to be02:24
lightwiselike i said, i never saw that before in an uptime02:24
lightwisethere was always at least 1-3 users being displayed02:24
lightwisei love lubuntu02:24
holsteinyeah, its nice02:25
lightwisei believe this is my new favorite distro flavor02:25
holsteinim using xubuntu right now02:25
lightwiseive ran that one too02:25
holsteinbut, i have lubuntu installed a couple places02:25
holsteinand i use the live CD often now02:25
lightwisei think ive ran just about everything in the top 30 on distrowatch.com02:25
lightwiselol02:25
holsteinits light and elegant02:25
lightwiseyep02:30
lightwisethanks again man02:34
Ahmuckhow do i add fonts to the system?03:33
Unit193Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto03:35
etfbHi. Is there a way to install fonts without fiddling with the shell?  "Standard" Ubuntu has the Font Viewer, with which I can just click Install and the font is ready to use.  Is there an equivalent in Lubuntu?04:01
holsteinetfb: you can have that.. its called 'font viewer' ?04:02
holsteingnome-font-viewer - font viewer for GNOME04:03
holstein^^ you think thats it?04:03
holsteini would select it and see if it wants to pull in a bunch of gnome stuff04:04
holsteinif not, just use it :)04:04
etfbholstein: Ah, I forgot about Gnome's slack-arse "namespacing" workaround in their packages. Thanks!04:05
etfbYes, it's only pulling in gnome-utils-common. Let's see if it works...04:05
holsteincool, thats not too bad04:05
etfbAaaaand... nothing.  Bunch of error messages.04:06
holsteinhow so?04:06
holsteinwhat errors?04:06
etfbOh, hang on - after the messages, a usage hint.04:06
holsteinit really shouldnt matter04:06
holsteinlubuntu = ubuntu04:06
etfb(The messages were all along the lines of "can't find theming engine")04:07
etfbSo you wouldn't expect that to matter.  Will try with a filename in the command.04:07
etfbWoot! It worked!04:10
etfbThanks for that, holstein!04:10
holsteinetfb: :)04:11
etfbHey, any idea if LibreOffice will Just Work in Lubuntu?  I would use AbiWord but LO doesn't appear to read its document files.04:14
Unit193Save them ask ODT files, it should work. If you don't want to do that, just remember LibreOffice isn't as lightweight04:16
Unit193s/ask/as/g04:16
Unit193etfb: You may also want to install libreoffice-gtk so it fits better with the theme04:18
_SuperVillainbeen using lubuntu 11.10 for a few days now, love it, super fast :) great job lubuntu team04:21
Unit193Well, we like it ;)04:22
Unit193skaet: You're not identified, how do I know you're not the evil clone? ;)04:23
Folklorehow can I run the same app over and over, trying to stress test a server04:25
Folkloreneed simple script or something to run like 1000 copies of an app04:25
skaetUnit193,  have identified now, not evil clone,  just sleepy release manager about to go zzz  :)04:27
Unit193Folklore: Server? And have you looked in the repo for a good program? Maybe one like crashme?  apt-cache search stress test   gave a few04:31
Folklorethe server is my code04:32
Folklorei just need a script I can run to run the client app 100 times04:32
Folklore10000 times04:32
Folkloreto see if it handles it locally04:32
Unit193I've slacked off a bit with scripting, but here's a guide :P http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide04:38
Folklorethanks I probably just need a simple loop04:38
Folklorefor i=1,i++04:38
Folklore./clientapp04:38
Folklorefor i=1,i=10000,i++04:39
Folklorekinda thing04:39
Folkloreheheh04:39
etfbFolklore: for added stress-testing, make it ./clientapp&, so all the instances are running simultaneously...04:43
Folklorenever seen the &04:43
etfbYep. A command like foo ; bar runs 'foo' first, waits until it exits, then runs bar.  Whereas foo & bar runs foo and then, as soon as foo has loaded and started, it runs bar as well.04:44
etfbSo if there's nothing after the &, it basically means "load the program and run it but go on to the next command line without waiting.04:45
etfbI'm rusty on Bash, but I think this is what you want, Folklore:04:46
Folkloreetfb awesome, you rock sir04:46
etfbfor (( i = 1; $i < 10; i ++ )); do MYCOMMAND& ; done04:46
Folklorefound some bash script to try too04:47
etfbAh, leave out the semi-colon after the ampersand.04:47
etfbI just tried it myself, using gnome-font-viewer since it was one program I had to hand.  Quite amusing: it sits there for a second thinking, and suddenly your screen is full of windows.04:49
FolkloreLOL04:49
Folklorenice :D04:49
etfb... Which I now have to go and close, dangit...04:49
Folkloreit amazes me how fast lubuntu boots04:49
Folklorehow little harddrive and cpu it uses04:49
Folklorethis things a work of art, no other distro been so smooth04:50
etfbOh, and of course gnome-font-viewer ignores both Ctrl+Q and Alt+F4... d'oh!04:50
Unit193etfb: killall is your friend :P04:50
Folkloreis there a easy way to kill all the processes after via script04:50
Folkloreor should I have server just send a cmd to do it04:51
Folkloreyeah ill just do that via network04:51
Folklorethat way can stress test send and recieve04:51
Folkloreontop of connects04:51
Folkloreserver uses epoll and pthreads04:52
etfbFolklore: Yes, I'm impressed with Ubuntu.  I had a couple of old desktop Win98 boxen that were useless for anything else.  Cost me $100 each at the computer fair in Canberra.  Now they're running Lubuntu and there's zero lag.04:52
FolkloreI found epoll wrapper code for kqueue yesterday, rocks04:52
etfbs/Ubuntu/Lubuntu/; of course.04:52
Folklorenice :D04:52
etfbTried Ubuntu 11.04 on them and Unity barfed.04:52
Folkloreubuntu was a resource HOG04:53
etfbFolklore: I'm old enough to remember when Windows 95 was a resource hog.04:53
etfb"16 colour screen *required*? What are they, fascists?"04:53
Folklorehehe04:56
Folklorereminds of old mac commericals for some reason04:58
Folklorewhen they were bragging about like 2 mbs of ram04:58
Folkloreor something like that :P04:59
Folkloreidk my first pc was a pentium 104:59
Folklorewas around the time AOL dialup was popular04:59
genoobiehey all04:59
genoobieI mapped a network drive using pcman04:59
Folkloreheya04:59
genoobiehow can I get it so that in file dialogs I can browse to that location?05:00
genoobieso if I am in an application, such as "libreoffice"05:01
genoobieI can  find that mapping...05:01
genoobiehrm.05:01
Folklorethere a easy way to download a random http file via bash05:22
Folkloreand save to a path05:22
Folkloreahh wget cool05:23
bioterrorcurl -O :D05:23
FolkloreI been using dropbox to upload source files to access them via lubuntu in vbox05:27
Folkloregetting of tired of typing in firefox URL bar for each file05:27
Folklorethis bash script thing makes it LOT easier lol05:27
Folklorejust delete old copies and grab new and compile05:27
bioterrorwhy not just install dropbox application?05:28
bioterroror am I missing something?05:28
Folkloreinstall it where05:28
Unit193bioterror: Yeah, you're missing that they use U1 now ;)05:29
bioterroris it better?-)05:29
bioterrorI'm still living in the past and using scp and server some where in a datacenter05:29
Folklorethis bash script works05:33
Folkloreif I ./ in a already open terminal05:33
Folklorebut trying to double click it lets me execute or in a terminal05:34
Folkloreneither is workin and it shows nothin05:34
Folkloreany ideas why05:34
Folkloreeh doesn't matter05:38
Folklorethe entire freenodes is quiet right now07:20
Ahmuckwhat is the mic program for lubuntu?08:04
bioterrordo you mean sound recorder?08:05
shiva_nAnyone get lubuntu 12.04 working on VirtualBox? I have a problem explained at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1889114 , which I am sure has some known fix that I am not able to find08:07
Ahmucklike for skype08:08
Ahmucki have a mic, but no sound is happening08:08
bioterrorAhmuck, open terminal and run command: alsamixer08:08
Ahmuckhrm, shows mic08:09
Ahmuckwhere are fontÅ› normally installed on lubuntu?08:12
bioterrorshiva_n, y u 12.04 when there's no alpha released?08:12
bioterrorshiva_n, if you run development releases, you really should know what to do with bugs08:13
bioterrorlast time I checked, ubuntuforums is not ubuntus bug tracker site08:14
AscavasaionMorning.  Can someone recommend me a lightweight music programme like Rhythmbox for my old AMD Duron machine?08:23
AscavasaionAudacious does not have enough features like sorting artists, etc.08:24
bioterrorI have my music categorized at the directery level08:26
bioterrorlike Music/Rock/Artist/Album/08:26
bioterrorand I use MOC ;)08:26
Unit193!crosspost | Ascavasaion08:26
ubot5Ascavasaion: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support.08:26
* Ascavasaion Googles MOC08:26
AscavasaionWell, excuse me.08:26
shiva_nbioterror, I dont think its a bug with Lubuntu. I was trying to do some ISO testing.08:27
bioterroreven if it's a bug in ubuntu lubuntu kubuntu xubuntu edubuntu, it should be posted to launchpad08:27
shiva_nI have a feeling its got something to do with VirtualBox or something I am doing wrong (though I cant imagine what since I am doing a default install)08:29
shiva_nI need to confirm this, so I thought I will ask on here if anyone got it running on VBox08:29
Unit193bug 89476808:30
ubot5Launchpad bug 894768 in linux (Ubuntu Precise) "Installation randomly fails with: File "/usr/lib/ubiquity/ubiquity/install_misc.py", line 621, in copy_file targetfh.write(buf) IOError: [Errno 22] Invalid argument " [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89476808:30
bioterrorshiva_n, is that a AMD64 or i686?08:32
bioterrorsorry, i38608:32
bioterror"we are dropping support from i586 cpu's, but we still keep naming the isos with i386"08:32
shiva_ni68608:35
shiva_noops sorry that is AMD6408:35
shiva_nbrain fading...need food...missus calling...away for dinner!08:36
bioterrorjust made 12.04 usb stick08:49
bioterrorbooting for the first time, takes few mins to install08:49
bioterrorfirst boot!09:08
bioterrorhahaha09:09
bioterrorblinking09:09
bioterrorbetween something and init09:09
bioterrorhahaha, cant even go to tty09:10
bioterrorI have to admit I have no idea what's wrong with that 12.04 installation09:52
bioterrorthere's no init 5 any more, and lxdm is replaced with lightdm09:53
faLUCEhi, I'm using the integrated graphics of a i5 2400 CPU. Unfortunately, the os doesn't detects it and I'm forced to use vesa at low resolution. how can I solve?10:22
AscavasaionI have an old AMD Duron 1300MHz PC with 384Mb RAM.  I might be able to get my hands on 3 x 256 = 768Mb RAM.  I presume the old thing will run reasonably better with the jump from 384Mb to 768Mb RAM?11:27
JohnDoe_71Rusmore ram better anyway11:29
AscavasaionThank you.  Guy just SMSed me to say that he only had 128Mb DIMMS and not the 256Mb DIMMS he claimed in the classified ad.  :(  So bleh!11:30
bioterrorI have here on my table 2x 256MB DDR2 SDRAM, you can come and pick them ;)11:32
Ascavasaionbioterror: I wish hehe  But a tad far from South Africa :)11:33
JohnDoe_71Rusdimm is simple. i can't find rambus :(11:33
bioterrorhahaha11:33
bioterrorRD800!11:33
bioterrorRDRAM80011:34
JohnDoe_71Rusyes11:34
bioterroryou have Xeon?11:34
JohnDoe_71RusP411:34
bioterrorclose enough11:34
bioterrorRDRAM is expensive11:34
JohnDoe_71Rusintel D850MV11:35
bioterrorI have couple of "terminators" or what are those blank thingies you put into mobo when you dont use all the RDRAM slots11:35
JohnDoe_71Rusi have only 2x256Mb, not enouth11:36
bioterrorI had hmm11:36
bioterrorcant remember11:36
bioterrorit was a dual core xeon, I think it was couple of gigs11:36
bioterroror dual socket, to be honest11:36
bioterrorfrom wikipedia: In 2002, benchmarks pointed out that single-channel DDR400 SDRAM modules could closely match dual-channel 1066 MHz RDRAM in everyday applications11:37
bioterror;)11:37
JohnDoe_71Rusor find motherboard with ddr memory11:38
AscavasaionIf a motherboard takes a certain type of processor, but only speeds of "500 to 1GHz or higher", is there no way to get a 2.2Ghz processor to run in it?  I know it is not, but I can only hope hehe11:40
bioterrorit's about the sockets11:40
JohnDoe_71RusAscavasaion: Hope springs eternal11:41
* Ascavasaion chuckles.11:41
bioterrormy mother board uses AM3+ socket11:42
bioterrorand I can use almost any AM3+ CPU11:42
bioterrorI can upgrade my Athlon X2 to Phenom II X6 ;)11:42
bioterrorJohnDoe_71Rus, http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=RDRAM&_sacat=0 ;)11:45
JohnDoe_71Rusbioterror: i know11:45
JohnDoe_71Rusbut, bay hardware by post...11:46
bioterrorI just got email from ebay that my percel is mailed ;)11:48
JohnDoe_71Rusbioterror: and i need shipping russia11:50
bioterrorhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-2GB-4X512MB-PC800-45-ECC-Rambus-RDRAM-Memory-/260859640109 here's world wide11:50
bioterrorchinaman has lots of RDRAM PC80011:51
JohnDoe_71Rusbioterror: i think about11:53
AscavasaionOkay, thank you all.  Bye.11:54
fasoshi12:30
bioterrorhowdy12:30
AscavasaionHOw do I play mp3s through lubuntu?14:13
skaetheya,  just wanted to let you know lubuntu alpha 1 is released now.17:08
CipiDoes anyone know how to boot lubuntu and install it from USB stick?18:28
CipiCan be installed with UNetBootin - ubuntu ?18:29
CipiAnyone know this?18:29
michaelrawsonCipi: Yeah, you can do it.18:32
michaelrawsonFormat the USB and make a partition over the lot.18:32
michaelrawson(unless you have something on there, in which case, don't)18:32
michaelrawsonthen download the lubuntu ISO18:32
michaelrawsonthen use the "ISO" option of unetbootin, select the ISO, and the USB, and away you go.18:33
CipiYep, Thanks alot man.18:33
CipiAnother question. Does lubuntu have ubuntu software center and Additional drivers manager ?18:33
CipiThanks. I will give lubuntu a try.18:43
Mr_EE1hello20:05
Mr_EE1can anyone help me with compiz how to install it, please its my first time in ubuntu and compiz20:06
eimishi, can i ask for help here directly?20:22
eimishello?20:24
bioterrorsure20:24
bioterror!ask | eimis20:24
ubot5eimis: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience20:24
eimisI have hp pavilion dv7-6153ea laptop, and screen brightness is always at 100% with lubuntu. Win7 is ok. I googled for an answer but without luck. Could you help me?20:26
bioterrorsorry, no idea what could be wrong20:28
bioterrorcan you adjust brightness?20:28
eimisno,that is the problem.20:28
eimisf2 and f3 should do that but they don't20:29
bioterrorremember to press fn button too?20:29
eimisthat doesn't help20:30
shiva_nbioterror greetings. did you get a chance to try lubuntu precise on virtualbox vm?20:44
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